1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Hey everybody, welcome to this episode of the Disc Golf Answer, 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Man. I'm Bobby. 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,000 Cool daddy, Slick breeze. I didn't. 4 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,680 Hold that very long. Oh, we used. 5 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Cool daddy, slick breeze. All right, we'll do it again. 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,680 Here we go. Bring it back just for the. 7 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:20,040 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Hey everybody, welcome to this 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,240 episode of the Disc Golf Fancy man. 9 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:23,800 I'm Bobby. Cool Daddy Slick. 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Breeze. There it is. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,880 All right, so as you can guess, as you can tell, we have Mr. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,520 Anthony in the studio here at the Disc Golf Answer Man Studio. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,640 It's a good place to be in studio is in the studio studio. 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,160 So this is a special interview episode from the Disc Golf 15 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:47,560 Answer Man, and I am happy beyond words to have Anthony 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,960 sitting right next to me. So for you guys who are familiar 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,840 with the Answer Man and the Under Stable Mind podcast, you 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 remember Anthony from being working here at Dynamic Discs 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Discs. Well, he is back sort of, and 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,600 we'll kind of get into that asterisk. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,120 We'll kind of get into that a little bit. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,160 But I just want to use this opportunity to kind of introduce 23 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:12,080 or reintroduce Anthony back to our listeners. 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,280 But yeah, Anthony, how are you? How are you doing? 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,440 Really good. Really good man. 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,080 I've been very, very out of the public eye by by choice for a 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,960 little while. And yeah, I mean, got a wife. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Same. Same wife still. 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Yeah, that's good. Not a new one. 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Same house. All that's going well. 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,080 New job, same kid. He's awesome. 32 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Yeah. So life is life is good, man. 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Sun shining. So what has been, what has life 34 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:42,080 like been for the last year and a half for you? 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Like when you stepped away from Dynamic Discs, was it like a 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,040 step away from disc golf as well or? 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,360 Yes, yeah, yeah, it was a it was an escorted step away from 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Dynamic Discs, a very voluntary step away from disc golf as a 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,200 whole. This, I mean, from, from the, 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,960 the summer going into my freshman year of high school, 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:11,160 which would have been 2007 up until 2024, disc golf was a, a 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,600 very big or the biggest thing in my life. 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,960 And like anything that's part of your life for that long, there's 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,960 ups and downs, there's positives and negatives. 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,920 And I just said, you know what? I'm just not, I'm just not in 46 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:26,920 love with it like I was. Maybe I just need to take a 47 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:29,040 little bit of a break, especially with, with everything 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,360 that happened, just kind of a let me, let me unplug, let me 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,640 decongest or whatever. And yeah, just just take a step 50 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:40,000 back or decompress. Not decongest. 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Like allergies have been kicking my butt. 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Congestion is, is a very regular part of my life. 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Yeah. So just step away and, you know, 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,960 we'll, we'll let it come back when it comes back. 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,920 And yeah, it's back. So, OK, so we're going to jump 56 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:54,840 around a little bit because I have questions that pop in my 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,600 mind. But so being that you stepped 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,920 away, how did like did how did disc golf look like? 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 I mean, did you you don't watch anything at all or? 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Long answer, well, short answer, no, I didn't watch anything. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Long answer, I watched very, very minimal. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,880 I mean, I I stayed very, very loosely up to date. 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,040 I like I saw who won worlds. That was about it. 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,280 I didn't watch any pro tour, didn't watch any Jomas. 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,040 There was one time I went back and watched, I think it was 20, 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,280 14 or 2015, like Beaver State Fling, just one. 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,000 That was always a good, good time. 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,760 I love that Course. I like the Central Coast guys. 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,880 So I was like, you know what? I remember I was out there for 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,360 that one. Let's go back and rewatch that 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,960 watch like the the Philo Albatross, whatever, whatever 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,280 that was. I think it was 2015. 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,520 So, yeah, to, to say no isn't a complete truth, but it's 98% 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,680 true. Yeah, I didn't. 75 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,920 I, I, there was times I wanted to, but I just kind of forced 76 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,760 myself of like I, I just just leave it, leave it alone for a 77 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,800 little bit and just kind of kind of step away. 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,200 It was kind of like, I mean, I can kind of relate to that. 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,440 When I, when I stepped away, it was kind of like, do I even want 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,840 to be in disc golf, right? Because like it was such a, a 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,440 thing that you fell in love with and thing that became such a big 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 part of your life. It was like I think you 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,760 mentioned when we talked the other day, it was like breaking 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,720 up with somebody almost. Yeah, yeah. 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,280 It very much did have that feeling of like, you know, you 86 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:27,920 get broken up with and then do you, do you want to go check and 87 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,080 see what she's doing on Instagram? 88 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Do you want to see what she's posting? 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,520 Not, not really. And then if you and it is, it's 90 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,280 like if you do see, like I remember looking at old videos 91 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,480 of mine and stuff and it would hurt to watch it. 92 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Yes, I'd imagine kind of very similar. 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, you go back and you see, 94 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,200 I know all that went into this or I know we're so close to 95 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,800 that, but it still hasn't been posted. 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Where is it at? You know, the, the good feels 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 like a little bit of jealousy and then the bad is like, Nah, 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,600 ha ha, like that. That's not a place I want to be. 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,120 So no, I just just unplug and let let life go. 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 So the way I learned what happened with you and Dynamic 101 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,200 Discs was a video that you would put out, of course, you know, 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 when before you started with Dynamic Discs, you had DG 103 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,560 weekly? Yep. 104 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,320 That's basically how I got connected with you as I saw you 105 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,560 doing disc reviews, reached out to you, asked if you wanted to 106 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,880 do some for us, and then of course worked it to where we got 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,920 you here at in Emporia. So I saw the video you put out 108 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,480 and dude, it broke my heart, right? 109 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,880 It hurt watching you hurt. Yeah, rightfully so. 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Right. So where are you at now with all 111 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,480 that having to go through that and then it will get, we'll get 112 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,040 a little bit into the process of you coming back, but where you 113 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,360 at with it now? Yeah, that was, I mean, 114 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,920 obviously a big and not, excuse me, not necessarily the video 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,320 itself, but everything that happened when I got laid off was 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,200 a big talking point between myself, Shane and Seth. 117 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,200 When conversations about me potentially coming back, where 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,640 we're going on. That was one of the big, that 119 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,440 was the biggest talking point was basically, hey, this is a 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,120 job opportunity that we have. We think you'd fit well. 121 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,040 But so there was, there was a lot of back and forth, a lot of 122 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,400 conversations from, you know, questions and things on their 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,080 side, questions and things on my side. 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 But obviously the, you know, the air was cleared. 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,440 There wasn't really any, any animosity or anything like that. 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,080 And to his credit, when everything went down, I think it 127 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,760 was even after I posted the video, I came back in and talked 128 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 with Seth for an hour and a half, two hours. 129 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,120 And it was a very open conversation. 130 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,440 I mean, he said things to me that he probably didn't need to 131 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,160 say. I said things to him that I 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,440 probably didn't need to say. But I mean, he answered all my 133 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,840 questions. I answered all of his. 134 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,200 And it was, it was very, you know, it felt like a very grown 135 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,520 up conversation. So no, there's, there's no hard 136 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,920 feelings. And that was what I tried to 137 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,680 express in that video was it's not a, you know, as upset as I 138 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,120 was, as hurt as I was at the decision that was made. 139 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,040 It wasn't a personal thing. It wasn't a performance based 140 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,720 decision. It was literally just money has 141 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,480 to get cut somewhere. And they, I mean, Seth and I 142 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,680 believe it was Berglund talked even that night before about how 143 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,680 do we cut this money and not have it be Anthony And that, you 144 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,480 know, like I said in the video and like I told Seth, like I, I 145 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,480 appreciate that, but at the end of the day, the decision still 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,800 was I was that cut. So yeah, there there was a lot 147 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,520 of hurt going into it, but I, I didn't want it to come across as 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,040 a bash DD I hope the place burns down. 149 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Like I still maintained really close friendships with a lot of 150 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,680 people that were here. It was never it was never that I 151 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,640 understand business is business, money's money. 152 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,320 There's, you know, at the time there was what, 6070? 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Some employees here in this building, plus the European 154 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,080 staff, like, I don't pretend that I'm more important than any 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,520 of them. So yeah, it's, it's it's good. 156 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,920 It's good. We had a lot of conversations 157 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,800 about it and everything is on the up. 158 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,880 And up. Good, good. 159 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,200 Well, obviously you're back. And so we're all happy. 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Everybody's happy that you're back. 161 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,240 But tell everybody. So in the at the beginning I 162 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,320 said you're back, sort of, yes. What I meant was he's not back 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,560 to dynamic disks, right? Tell us exactly what is your 164 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,320 role? Yeah. 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,440 So I will be working with the sales team. 166 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,920 My actual job title is wholesale business development. 167 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,360 So I'll be a part of the sales team, but it's not a strictly 168 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,280 sales role. It's not, hey, these are your 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,400 KPIs. We need to draw in X amount of 170 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,000 revenue. It'll be working very closely 171 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,880 with the wholesale side of things. 172 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,159 Kind of your local disc golf store is going to be hearing 173 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:39,320 from me. I'll be reaching out to those 174 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,159 people, making sure they have what they need. 175 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,960 What can we do better? What is it that you like about 176 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,200 how things have been going? You know what, what would you 177 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,720 like to see? What would make it easier for 178 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,680 them to conduct business in the future? 179 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:56,040 So not nearly as much this on camera presence, a lot more of 180 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,000 reaching out to people within the industry that's, you know, 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,120 run a store, things like that and just build that 182 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,800 relationship, maintain those relationships and make sure that 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,880 that those people are happy so that Joe Schmo disc golfer in 184 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,640 Idaho can get the new whatever as quick as possible and that 185 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,280 the store is is able to get their inventory in and make sure 186 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,160 that that process flows. So yeah, not, not nearly the 187 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,000 same role of of making content, talking to people online, 188 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,120 talking to people on the phone now and doing some potential 189 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,200 travel for trade shows and things like that. 190 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,000 So sort of like a like a sales business relationship, yes type. 191 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,000 So fostering their relationships, building new 192 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,840 relationships, stuff like. That yes, yeah, sales department 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,960 for sure. But just with the way that the 194 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,200 disc golf market is, it's not really a hey, go, go get people 195 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,680 to open a disc golf store, right? 196 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:50,360 It's more of, hey, the people that have disc golf stores, make 197 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,040 sure that they're happy, make sure that they have what they 198 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,320 want, what they need, build that and and make that process in 199 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 those systems better. And what I love is that I 200 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,160 remember when Shane first approached me and, and had this 201 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,960 idea and asked me what I thought. 202 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,680 And part of the element was, of course, that you have the media 203 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:07,520 background, you know what you're doing, right? 204 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,760 And you could bring, you can break because like there's two 205 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,320 different customers, right? There's the retail customer and 206 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,000 then there's there's the wholesale customer, right? 207 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,600 We try to serve the retail customer with Instagram, 208 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Facebook, YouTube and stuff like that. 209 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,160 And we can do very similar stuff on the wholesale side where 210 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,920 you're creating videos about disks. 211 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,000 You know, nothing speaks more powerful than video, right? 212 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,160 So I mean, for you to grab a camera and say, guys, this is 213 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,960 the latest what's going on, Yes. And stuff like that would be 214 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,160 nothing for you. Right. 215 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Yeah, yeah. And that was one of the things 216 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,680 of why my name came up for it, because it makes it easier as a 217 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,920 general thing to send out to people to do that in video form, 218 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,440 image form, graphic form, anything like that. 219 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,280 But no, not things that are going to get posted on 220 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,440 Instagram. This will be very targeted to 221 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,600 wholesalers and say, hey, this is what's coming out. 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,760 This is what they look like giving people kind of sneak 223 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,520 peeks, things like that. But yeah, this, this will be my 224 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,560 exposure to like YouTube, Instagram stuff would all be. 225 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:08,000 Through you. Well, hopefully Shane's not 226 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,480 watching this because I do. I want to make like I was asking 227 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,200 Anthony the other day was like, hey, what if you're on answer 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,760 man, every now and then, right? You can bring U.S. news about 229 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,880 wholesale stuff. I would be happy, right? 230 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,240 I would be happy. And of course we've, we've, we 231 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 did film around yesterday. That'll be on our YouTube 232 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,080 channel. Didn't keep score. 233 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Didn't keep score, but if we had but we didn't, you'll let you 234 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,520 know. We'll the video will let you 235 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,160 know who won. So if we had kept score. 236 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,240 If we had kept. Score if if that was a thing. 237 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Fortunately, we did not. I did a little bit so but 238 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:42,920 anyway, my point is that like to have you on a YouTube video 239 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,040 every now and then again to talk about what's going on with 240 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,320 wholesale. I mean would be natural would be 241 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,720 a great thing to do. So yes, I'm excited about that 242 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,640 stuff. So same. 243 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,040 So OK, so we talked a little bit how you feel, but like the whole 244 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,320 process, it was a it was a it was going on for a couple 245 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,040 months, right. Did you take a really close look 246 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,160 at the disc golf industry and, and what went, went into your 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,760 mind as far as trying to figure out? 248 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,120 Cuz I, I, I'm assuming from our conversations, you weren't like, 249 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,840 yes, I want back right now. You were like, wait, right. 250 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Let me treat this like any other job. 251 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Yes, yeah. So to, to directly answer your 252 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,120 question, did I look specifically at the disc golf 253 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,640 industry? No, I, yeah, the first 254 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,360 conversations that we had were would you come back, you know, 255 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,400 yes or no? If yes, would you be interested? 256 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Would you be excited or would it just be a job? 257 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,480 And I, you know, after some soul searching and things like that, 258 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,240 was like, yeah, you know, I, I would be excited. 259 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,640 So yeah, I, I thought about it as objectively, I tried to, for 260 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,200 whatever reason, my drive to my other job, I would go past Old 261 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,960 Navy every day. So Old Navy stuck out as the 262 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,720 business in mind. I was like, if this exact same 263 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,120 job, exact same everything was offered to me from Old Navy, 264 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,560 would I take it like, you know what I would, that'd be, that'd 265 00:12:58,560 --> 00:12:59,840 be a pretty cool opportunity. Yeah. 266 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,800 OK, so the job, yes, I'm interested in now let's look at 267 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,480 the emotional side of, OK, I have to walk back into that same 268 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,280 building, not the same office, but kind of let's, let's look at 269 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,240 it objectively first and then tackle the emotional side. 270 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,160 And so I, I reached out to people that I stayed close with 271 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,120 here, yourself included, Obviously you went through a 272 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,880 very similar thing of coming back. 273 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,520 What was it like for you? And that was that was my sort of 274 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,160 deep dive, not necessarily into the disc golf market as a whole, 275 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,720 but hey, people that are still in that building, what's it like 276 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,920 in that building? You guys were there through 277 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,960 everything. How is it trending? 278 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,400 What does it look like? What do you feel? 279 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:42,400 And in those conversations, some of the people knew, some people 280 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,880 didn't. Some people I told, some people 281 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,280 I didn't. So I was able to get a good mix 282 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,520 of not that I wouldn't trust the people, but you know, people 283 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,720 that had no idea why I was asking. 284 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 And some people were just, oh, he's just touching base, seeing 285 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,600 how things are some people. Hey, I, I heard somebody was 286 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,680 talking to you about such and such and this and that is that 287 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,040 is it true? So I was able to get a, a good 288 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,000 mix and everybody said same things with like, yeah, it's, 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,360 it's a lot better than it was. It was hard. 290 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,200 It had been trending in a in a difficult direction for quite a 291 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,880 while when myself and then the the group of people that got 292 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,160 laid off at the same time, there was some, some pretty tough days 293 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,240 after that for the people that were still here. 294 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,480 But it's been what, 17 months, 16 months, something like that. 295 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,920 A lot has changed. A lot of things are trending in 296 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,280 a much better direction. And I can already, I mean day 297 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,440 three, I can feel that for sure. So, yeah, I, I didn't 298 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,160 necessarily look at the market as a whole, but you know, that's 299 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,040 the, the not necessarily company because I'm not, I'm not 300 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,680 strictly dynamic disks, but just the overall environment within 301 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,840 all of the brands. What is it? 302 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,200 What is it like? What do people feel? 303 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,440 And people from across the board all said the same things. 304 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,200 It was like, all right, you know what, the only reason for me to 305 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,120 say no would be if I was wanting to be petty, if I wanted to be 306 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,520 this or that. And that's, that's just not who 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,720 I am. So, yeah, it at first was not a 308 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,640 excuse me, it was not an immediate yes, absolutely. 309 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,160 I've been waiting for you to call me back. 310 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,840 But that was the, you know, after the conversations, after 311 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,920 talking with people that was obviously here. 312 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,080 I am the the decision was yeah, I, I am excited. 313 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,680 I would I would like to jump at this. 314 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,840 I think it's awesome. I think it's fantastic. 315 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,160 And yes, I would say even in the time I've been here it there's 316 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,800 a, a trend toward the positive, toward the good and toward 317 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,440 trying to rebuild. Yes, not only the trust with our 318 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,920 customers, but the trust within internally, right? 319 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,200 Right. And I, I mean, I, I think it has 320 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,400 to come internally. And that was one of the things 321 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,960 that was a struggle before was internally people were getting 322 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,000 beat down internally, people, the morale was lower. 323 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,440 And that makes it impossible to have the end consumer be super 324 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,120 excited about something that the people that are making it happen 325 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,360 are just going through the motions of. 326 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,280 But it's not, again, it's day three. 327 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,520 It's not that way anymore. You know, people I walk into 328 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,120 people are actually happy to be here. 329 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,720 People are excited. And there's one thing that was 330 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,080 nice. It's a lot of the same people, 331 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,760 you know, there's a couple of new faces, but a lot of the 332 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,400 people that I saw on a day-to-day basis before and 333 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,200 they're still here. Some of them are doing different 334 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,080 things like me, some of them are doing the same things. 335 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 But it's nice to see those people and you know, those 336 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,560 people are happy Again. It's a it's a good time. 337 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,760 That's what I've been telling people that is, yeah, there were 338 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,280 some tough times, but there there was. 339 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,320 There's always been the bones. The foundation is there, right. 340 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Things are just getting better. And yeah, you can feel it for 341 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:41,000 sure. Yeah. 342 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Well, what are you excited about the most for your new role? 343 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,480 I know it's only day three and you're still kind of learning. 344 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,840 You're still learning the ropes. Oh, yeah. 345 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,920 But what are you excited? What? 346 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,080 What it's exciting to you for this new role? 347 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,720 The the opportunity as a whole, obviously I had done the media 348 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,040 side of things for the better part of a decade, felt pretty 349 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,600 comfortable in that kind of knew my way, walked in, knew what I 350 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,079 was doing. But the opportunity to be on the 351 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,000 complete opposite side of the business. 352 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Now before we were very focused on end consumer talking straight 353 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,160 to the customer at the end of the day. 354 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,480 Now, not that I don't care about those people, but hey, I need to 355 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,560 make sure that where they go to buy their disks, that person is 356 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,079 happy. That person is kind of my target 357 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,480 and I'm not in front of the camera on a day-to-day basis. 358 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,440 So it's a, it's a complete kind of looking glass into the other 359 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 side of the company and then the way that the, the market 360 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,920 operates. But I, I still get that. 361 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,960 I still get to, you know, it's a different person, but I still 362 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,800 get that direct. Like my job is to make someone 363 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,040 else's day better. My job is to make someone else 364 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,480 make their life easier and I get a lot of fulfillment from that. 365 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,240 I get a lot of enjoyment of seeing other people succeed and 366 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,520 making other people say, hey, you know what, so and so didn't 367 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,760 do that for me or this company doesn't do that for me. 368 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,080 Being able to, to be that difference maker and make it so 369 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,560 that's people can look at the, the brand's, you know, Dynamic, 370 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Westside, Discmania, all that stuff the same way that I do 371 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,280 rather than just, it's another disc golf manufacturer. 372 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,640 Now there's there's something special here, There's a there's 373 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,920 some cool things going on and kind of helping to show that to 374 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,600 other people. So they look at it the same way. 375 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Is is really cool. Yeah. 376 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:32,520 It's plus just, you know, so little bit of back story between 377 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,560 my time here, I was working at Verizon, selling phones, fixing 378 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,920 tech issues, things like that. Is, is is cool. 379 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,200 I met some really good people, some some friends for life, but 380 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,440 I'm not super excited about a Google Pixel 10. 381 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,400 Me neither. IPhones, yeah. 382 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Great, I got I got one it's right here. 383 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,560 It makes phone calls just like my other one did. 384 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,680 It's it's cool, but it wasn't like anything I got out of bed 385 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,480 excited for in the morning. You know, it was it was a 386 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,360 learning experience for sure. Like I said, met some really 387 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:11,520 good friends, but disc golf is something that kind of excites 388 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,920 me at my core. You know, there's an actual 389 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,960 fire. Like, hey, this is this is 390 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,480 pretty freaking cool. You know, even the hard days, 391 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,520 hey, I'm not getting yelled at because somebody's phone doesn't 392 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,040 work and they have to buy a new one now. 393 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,160 Or what do you mean there's a network outage and you can't fix 394 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,760 it? Like we have a plug in the back. 395 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Like that sort of stuff was never ideal. 396 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,320 And, you know, with it being disc golf, it's like, hey, this, 397 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,600 even even the worst days are still going to be pretty cool, 398 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,640 you know? So another thing I found out 399 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,320 yesterday when we played that round was you hadn't played a 400 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,520 round in the year and a half or a year, right? 401 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Yep, Yeah, there was. So I was let go October 1st of 402 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:01,200 24 and probably October 10th, we'll say of 2024. 403 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,400 I was like, you know what, forget it. 404 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,720 I'm going to take my bag and flip it upside down and I'm 405 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,480 going to put a whole bunch of new discs in there. 406 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,480 I'm going to get back into disc golf and I'm going to make it 407 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,160 happen. And I'm not going to throw those 408 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,840 discs. And I went over to, I think it 409 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,680 was Jones East and I was on like hole 3. 410 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,400 Like this is this is dumb. Why? 411 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,680 Like, I'm doing this just to be mad at someone, but that person 412 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,880 doesn't know. That person doesn't care. 413 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,360 They're not here seeing me throw whatever. 414 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,680 And yeah, so I, I played, I don't know, eight or nine holes 415 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760 and was like, this is just me going out of my way to try and 416 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,760 be somebody that I'm not out of anger and spite. 417 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 And yeah, so after that was like, you know what, when I, 418 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,360 when I feel like playing disc golf again, I'll do it. 419 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,280 And I'm going to throw the discs that I want to throw. 420 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,160 And I'm not going to say, well, there's an MD3 disc mania makes 421 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,120 that I can't touch that thing, burn it like, no, I like the way 422 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,120 the MD3 flies. So if I'm going to go play disc 423 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,480 golf, I'm going to throw the discs that I like how they fly. 424 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,920 So no, yeah, I, I touched a disc once and that was like I said, I 425 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,400 was unplugged. Unplugged. 426 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,080 How'd it feel to have discs in your hand again and throwing? 427 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,040 It hurt, it hurt. I went and played with Shane on 428 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,280 Monday and the 1st hole I threw, it was pretty good shot, yeah, 429 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,880 but I couldn't feel my arm. We got up there to putt and I 430 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,880 had little tingles kind of from the elbow down of like, Oh yeah, 431 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,760 this is gonna need to get back into disc golf shape for sure. 432 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,360 Yeah. So yeah, are you going to start 433 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,640 playing more now? I sure hope so, yeah. 434 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,400 I would love to, yeah. Yeah, we'll have to go out and 435 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,720 play some. Round here I'll I'll it will 436 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560 keep score next time. Next time, Yeah. 437 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Next time we'll keep scoring. Yeah. 438 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Well, Anthony, I'm excited to have you back. 439 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,920 I think it's awesome. I it's a whole new chapter for 440 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,640 you. But like you said, you're back 441 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,760 in something that you love, which is disc golf, which is 442 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,680 which is fantastic. And I know you'll do a great job 443 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,160 once these stores find out that it's you calling them. 444 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,280 And once they start talking to you, they'll stop. 445 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,680 Answering. Yeah, yeah. 446 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,400 They'll stop calling and no, they'll, they're going to 447 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,000 realize that that's you. They will feel the passion that 448 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,160 you have and I think it's awesome, dude. 449 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,640 So it's great to have you back. So all right, guys. 450 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Well, it's a short episode, but I was super excited to get the 451 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,080 news out of having Anthony back. And so I wanted to put together 452 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,920 real quick episode for the disc golf Phantryman. 453 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,920 So you guys could know make sure if you haven't, if you're not 454 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,880 following YouTube Dynamic discs, be sure to follow that. 455 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,360 I'll have this an episode of me and him playing around at 456 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,600 Hammond Park and ask him not not keeping score. 457 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Do not keep score in the comments either. 458 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Yeah, so, but and we go over I'm I'm so just, I remember the 459 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,680 score so much. I'm so happy. 460 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,840 But we didn't keep it. So, well, I kept it. 461 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Somebody kept it. That's it, Bennett. 462 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,280 The cameraman probably kept it. I I don't he's a questionable 463 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,240 character. I don't know if I trust his 464 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,440 judgement. Anyway, go check out that round 465 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,320 where we talk a little bit more about his coming back to House 466 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,680 of Discs. So all right, man, well, you 467 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,360 need to get to work get get to selling some. 468 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,320 Discs I I do this isn't my job and right is actively not 469 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,240 working at work now. Alright guys, we'll see you next 470 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,080 time. Bye.