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Welcome to this episode of the 
Disc Golf Answer Man Show. 

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I am Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick 
breeze, and I have with me a 

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special guest, Mr. Clint 
Easterly and he has blitz disc 

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golfer blitz DG on YouTube. 
OK, so let me tell you a little 

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back story. 
So I watch body Cam videos, I 

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watch police videos, I watch 
true crime stories a little bit 

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of I don't know if he ever heard
it delivered, but he does like 

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live car shows. 
And of course I watched my fair 

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share of disc golf videos. 
Well, I was thumbing through 

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YouTube and I saw this video 
saying something about throwing 

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400 feet and I thought I would 
love to be able to throw 400 

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feet. 
I want to hear what this guy to 

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say. 
And of course, popped up Clint, 

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nice casual. 
Just I think you're, you're in 

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your yard, right? 
Your front yard or backyard. 

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And yeah, it was just you were 
just talking about some maybe 

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myths or misconceptions of about
throwing far. 

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And I watched the whole video 
and I was like, I really like 

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this guy's approach to things 
and I want to get him on the 

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show. 
So I reached out to you and you 

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said yes. 
So thank you so much for getting

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on the show. 
But real quick, just in case 

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anybody hadn't heard of you, 
tell me a little bit. 

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Tell me your kind of your 
elevator pitch as far as your 

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disc golf story. 
Oh, elevator pitch. 

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OK, well, I started playing disc
golf not that that long ago, 

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about 3 years ago. 
I was a powerlifting coach 

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before. 
I've done a lot of powerlifting 

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basically, you know, just 
fitness stuff. 

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And about 3 years ago one of my 
buddies from my military service

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actually came and visited me and
was like there's you got this 

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disc golf course by your house, 
let's go out there and just 

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Chuck some discs. 
So we rented, you know, some 

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like super like in of ADX 
Sidewinder type discs. 

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We went out there and chucked a 
few, never played before really 

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and never like had terrible form
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And I don't know, I just kind of
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So I spent about a year trying 
to get better, learn to throw 

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and watch everything I could 
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I'm a really, I have like a 
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So if I get into something, I'm 
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I'll watch 10 hours a day of 
like form videos and this stuff.

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And I had kind of a good 
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And I was pretty athletic 
already because I've been 

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working out for a long time. 
So I got to throw in pretty 

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quick, pretty far, pretty quick,
I guess I should say and I 

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started out X step and one day I
just tried standstilling like I 

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always knew my standstill was 
pretty fast, but I got a tech 

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disc and I was like, all right, 
well let's see what the 

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difference is and I could 
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with a standstill than a next 
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So I was like, OK, well let's 
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Did that for a while, broke 70, 
broke 500 feet, you know, six 

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months into disc golf or 
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And then, you know, as I've 
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disc golf form stuff, I kind of 
realized that like none of it 

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was really hitting on like what 
I found that made me able to 

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throw far and like how I taught 
other people to throw far and it

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was more about like be exactly 
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Otherwise you can't throw far. 
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that. 
I think it's so much more like a

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fluid movement and creating 
power the way that your body is 

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good at creating power instead 
of just being like really 

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dogmatic, like you need to look 
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You need to be balanced on this 
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Just never really, I never 
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Like once I got to, you know, 70
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from like all different 
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So yeah, I made my first video 
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I think it is. 
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Like I, you know, I thought I 
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ramble on my back porch, you 
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Like people really liked it. 
And they really kind of, I guess

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it, it reached out to them and 
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something they didn't know. 
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snowballed from there. 
I started teaching more and more

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people and getting really good 
results and having like a really

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good ratio of like people who 
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speeds, you know, 5-10 miles an 
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So I don't know, I kind of 
stumbled into being a content 

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creator. 
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know, I have a daughter and 
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I'm, I'm a content. 
Creator. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, 'cause I'm like, you know,

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previous military, like not very
like sociable. 

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And I'm the guy who's on 
YouTube, like with a bunch of 

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subscribers. 
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I love it, I love it. 
That's just way as I've talked 

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to different people about 
content creation, it seems like 

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that's just how it starts is 
that I just want to make a 

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couple videos. 
I thought maybe people would 

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like it, and then it just it 
clicks, which is really cool. 

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So what branch of the military 
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I was in the army, I did six 
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Very cool. 
Did you got to see get to see a 

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lot of the country or? 
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duty stations, Oklahoma, 
Georgia, so did a deployment, 

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that kind of stuff, so. 
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So, and you mentioned 
powerlifting, so is that 

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something that you did you just 
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bit then looked into 
powerlifting or how'd you get 

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into that? 
Yeah, I actually was not super 

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athletic as a kid either. 
Like I played almost no sports 

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in high school. 
I wrestled for like a year and I

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was always really big into like 
wrestling and stuff like that 

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with my dad. 
He was a drill Sergeant, taught 

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hand to hand combat, blah, blah,
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So we were arm wrestling and 
wrestling were like our ways of 

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showing affection, which was 
probably not very mentally 

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healthy, emotionally healthy, 
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Very cool. 
OK, So the first thing when you 

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said powerlifting and you know, 
you, you look like you, you 

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know, you obviously you look 
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Tell me because that's as my 
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talking to people on the 
podcast, it does seem like a 

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misconception that to get 
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of power in the sense of 
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It would make sense that they 
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go far. 
Tell me your stance on that. 

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So I mean, there's some truth to
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Like I think that your ceiling 
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you can produce, like muscularly
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But generally, like the most 
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like coordination. 
So you can be athletic and not 

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be super strong. 
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kinds of like track athletes. 
They're not super big, bulky, 

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strong, but they're extremely 
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And like you see this, you know,
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golf players, the pro Tor 
players, they're not huge bulky,

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but they're really well 
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more than people think. 
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doing this when they were kids. 
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young, like your 
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so like anything you do, your 
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computing all these micro 
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So their coordination when it 
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like top, top tier. 
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though from like, like lifting 
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It's not really the strength 
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crazy far, but it is being able 
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coordination, right? 
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if you do sports, if you're 
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going to be able to learn the 
movement better because you're 

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just able to coordinate your 
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That's just part of being an 
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Yeah, I, I noticed that a lot of
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started disc golf answer me, it 
was a lot more of people sending

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in a lot of questions, right? 
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came across was always, how do I
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How do I get more distant? 
What would you say is a basic? 

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What is a misunderstanding that 
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to achieving distance? 
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that I probably talked about the
most is like the misconception 

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that you need to throw with your
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Like I think that I think there 
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I don't know when like I'm not 
super like ingrained in the 

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history of this sport. 
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like the idea that you like 
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then your body follows or the 
disc follows is just like you 

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can see in the data in the mocap
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It's not true. 
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your hips and then ripping your 
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arm through. 
That's not how you achieve like 

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the highest speeds in disc golf.
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get caught in the throwing with 
their hips mindset where they're

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really just trying to like 
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thing. 
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collapses the geometry of like 
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So they're not getting as 
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And that's the most important 
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Like, I like to describe it like
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like 100 lbs of power, 100 
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However, what percent you use of
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to the disk is the most 
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if you're not being efficient 
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actually getting to the disk, 
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more leg power and it's just, it
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And there's like there's a point
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light power you're you're taking
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So it's like you're adding a 
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actually getting less distance. 
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things that I focus on on my 
channel is like efficiency in 

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your swing path and your upper 
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as much of the energy as 
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important thing. 
And then you add more light 

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power once you already have that
efficiency, and you only add 

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what you can keep that 
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Interesting, very interesting. 
There's something you did 

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mention in that one video, I 
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video. 
Is that how some people don't 

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understand or don't think about 
it, that there's so many 

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variables happening? 
There's so many things happening

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in your body when you have a 
good throw, right? 

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There's so many things, timing 
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So if you don't mind, I'd like 
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and kind of work our way up the 
body of like what are the best 

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practices or things to keep in 
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So let's start with the feet, 
the stance, or even the walk or 

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X step or whatever step you're 
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Walk us through the mindset of 
what you need for that. 

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OK, so I think for one, most 
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started a standstill. 
It is much less to manage when 

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you don't need to be like 
dynamically affecting your 

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balance into the throw. 
Like it's it's extremely hard to

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get an efficient X step and it 
takes like years even for a top 

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tier athlete to get a really 
good X step into brace where 

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they're using the momentum 
effectively to add power to the 

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disc. 
Most people are just X stepping 

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and messing their mechanics up. 
So they would throw farther if 

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they just made it less 
complicated and got the 

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mechanics right, I would say. 
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it's kind of hard to go through 
every single thing in detail. 

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I've actually thought about 
doing a video like this before. 

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There's just so much going on. 
It's really hard to like hit 

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everything. 
But generally what I like to see

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is the first thing is your lower
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stable. 
That's kind of like, and there 

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are other coaches that talk 
about this now too. 

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It's kind of a recent thing 
where it used to be everyone was

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just like rotate as fast as you 
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And now people are understanding
it's not really rotate as fast, 

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as fast as you can. 
It's like you want to be sturdy 

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and stable in your lower body so
that you're actually able to use

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your torso and configure your 
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And only when you can do that do
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So I kind of preach simplify 
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Standstill is the best place to 
start. 

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You're going to have a ton of 
angle on your brace leg, so 

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you're not going to be able to 
kind of go past it. 

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It's going to be really easy to 
stay in balance and allow you to

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figure out kind of your torso 
power and the geometry kind of 

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of your upper body, which 
matters a lot for efficiency. 

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The majority of power is coming 
from your arm. 

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We have study, we have data like
Chris Taylor, Eunice Merlis, 

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they're doing kind of studies on
mocap stuff and muscle 

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activation and the majority of 
your powers coming from your 

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arm. 
So like the idea that you're 

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throwing with your hips and 
rotating in your arm as a 

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noodle, It's, it's just not 
true. 

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Like you're the muscles 
activating in your arm are, I 

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mean, they just are activating 
and they are the majority of 

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power. 
And we've done a bunch of 

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testing to like, how far do you 
throw a standstill to X step on 

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your knees? 
Like we, we do these tests to 

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see what percentage of power you
can throw from each position, 

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right? 
So on your knees, you're just 

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unable, you're much less able to
use your hips as a power source.

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And we're still seeing people 
throw like 80% of their Max, you

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know, from their knees. 
So it's like your hips are 

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adding much less than people 
originally thought, I think. 

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Yeah, That that, that surprised 
me that you said that because 

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that's always what I, I would 
think is that the, the rotation,

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the power, the whip or whatever 
comes from the from the hip. 

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But it's a cultural thing too. 
Like everybody thought that, 

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right? 
Like everybody has thought that.

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And it's only recently that 
people are starting to realize 

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like it's not as much rotation 
equals power. 

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And like we see that in we have 
like angular velocity metrics on

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throws, right, where hip 
rotation does not equal more 

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mile per hour out of your hands.
So it is not spin faster to 

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throw harder, right? 
It's a lot more about coordinate

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everything, be efficient and you
just need kind of not that much 

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hip rotation. 
So that's the first thing I 

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would say be stable, be sturdy, 
get it wider base where you kind

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of can't mess up. 
Learn to use your torso for a 

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good majority of the rotation. 
Your torso is is a huge 

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contributor to rotation, 
probably much more than your 

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hips. 
And learn to use your arm 

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effectively because you have to 
use your arm like it is. 

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It's not debatable when you look
at the data that you're just, 

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you have to be pulling forward, 
you have to be using your arm 

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and you have to be rotating a 
lot with your torso and your 

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hips are kind of like along for 
the ride, adding a little bit. 

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It's not the opposite like I 
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don't know how many years ago 
where you're just cranking your 

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hips and everything else is kind
of just following. 

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That's just we don't see that in
the data. 

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And you know, shout out to the 
other coaches out there who are 

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looking at the data and like 
changing their views too, 

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because there are some coaches 
who started out very rotational 

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based and just recently have 
switched like, OK, you're not 

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rotating as much as we thought. 
Use your arm more. 

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You need to pull. 
We've recently saw in the last 

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couple years kind of people 
pivoting to this is what we see 

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in the data. 
So this is what we should start 

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teaching. 
Interesting. 

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I'm looking at your YouTube 
channel and I see one called 

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It's Leg day for Disc golfers. 
So talk to me about what? 

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What is something we have to 
keep in mind when it comes to 

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our legs during the throw? 
Yeah. 

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So I would say the biggest thing
to focus on when it comes to 

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your legs is you need to be 
stopping is the biggest thing. 

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I would say it's not about 
rotation, it's about just 

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stopping. 
So like if you're running up or 

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you're walking up, you want to 
be basically hitting a wall kind

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of right where you're not 
continuing forward so that you 

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can give yourself that stable 
base and convert at least some 

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of that momentum into the disk 
going farther. 

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I think that's what you're going
to see in a lot. 

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And I should not say say it the 
way that I said it. 

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You should be slowing down. 
Decelerating is kind of the the 

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key because when you see people 
throw three 60s, they don't 

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stop, right? 
They they slow down when the 

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brace hits as much as they can 
and then they spill over with 

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everything that's left. 
So it's not about like a 

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complete stop. 
And there are coaches who teach 

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that as well. 
Like you want to stop the hips, 

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you want to end like basically 
stonewalled behind your brace. 

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And I think that's also kind of 
the wrong direction. 

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It's about like pushing back as 
much as you can and then leaving

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yourself kind of a safe release 
outlet so that you're not like 

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putting too much stress on your 
body because like full bracing. 

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If you just Sprint up and try to
full brace and stop every bit of

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momentum behind your brace, like
it's hard on your body, your 

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hips are going to hate you. 
And you know your lower back's 

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going to hate you. 
So you need to make sure that 

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you're also like following 
through. 

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And if you bring in too much 
momentum, you need to let some 

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of it through. 
So OK then then moving up to the

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hips, you you've already 
mentioned that to the hips 

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aren't at aren't as important as
once we thought it was, but what

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is something to keep in mind 
when you are rotating the hips? 

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What is something to keep in 
mind when you are rotating the 

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hips? 
I would say one of the biggest 

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things that I kind of brought 
light to was like using the 

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posterior chain more so 
anteriors like quad chin, 

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posteriors like glute hamstring 
and getting kind of posterior 

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chain involvement. 
So I think like for a long time 

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there was a lot of like you want
to be on your toes, right? 

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That's an athletic movement. 
And what you'll see mostly in 

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really high level throwers is 
they're not on their toe, 

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especially on their plant foot. 
Their whole foot gets down, 

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right? 
It's it's a lot like a single 

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leg squat. 
You want all three kind of the 

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tripod on your foot, right? 
You want all three points down 

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so you can engage both your 
hamstring, your glute and your 

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quad to all press into the 
ground. 

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Not, you know, like hit with 
your toe and brace a lot with 

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just your quad because being on 
your tippy toe makes it really 

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hard to use your hamstring and 
glute to help you press down. 

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You could think about like leg 
pressing. 

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You would never leg press on 
your tippy toes, right? 

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So it's the same concept. 
You really want to get into your

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posterior chain so you can use 
your glute and your hamstring to

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like assist in that downforce. 
Very interesting. 

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What? 
What are? 

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OK, so we moved up from the 
hips. 

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Now what about I guess, my 
torso? 

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What's going on there for you? 
What would you suggest? 

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OK. 
I think torso rotation is like 

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super underrated. 
I think you can generate a butt 

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load of power with almost just 
torso rotation. 

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So a lot of people are trying to
overuse their hips and they're 

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not taking advantage of the very
strong muscles in their torso. 

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So you can train this by doing 
lots of different stuff. 

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But Eunice, the Finnish head 
coach, he likes to do like from 

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the knees throws to really train
acceleration and deceleration of

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the torso. 
So you're basically training 

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your abdomen, your ABS, your 
lower back, your whole core to 

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both spin fast and stop fast. 
And that power is really useful 

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in the in the backhand, I think.
And in the forehand, really, 

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it's much more useful than 
people get it credit for, I 

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think. 
And then, OK, so now we'll go up

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to the arms. 
How am I holding it to make sure

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I get the most spin out of the 
disk? 

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Spin, OK, spin's a good one. 
I think there are two main 

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things that you want to do to 
get spin. 

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One is risk oil, you know, wrist
curl. 

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So your goal would be to have 
and I wouldn't, I shouldn't say 

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like the maximum amount because 
you can't like overdo it and 

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like touch the disc to your 
forearm. 

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But you want a good amount of 
risk oil as late in the throw as

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possible. 
You want the wrist to be the 

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last thing to unravel. 
So as your arm comes out, you're

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unraveling your upper arm, then 
your lower arm and your wrist is

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curled to the last bit. 
And it's the last piece of the 

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whip that transfers the last bit
of energy to the disk. 

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So you want to go from coiled to
flat basically right at release,

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holding that as late as 
possible. 

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Super important. 
And the other one is just deep 

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pocket. 
Getting deeper with the disk 

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generally makes you have more 
spin. 

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And when I say deep, I mean. 
Farther forward or a greater 

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angle between your bicep and 
PEC, right? 

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So this is 90°, this is like 
130. 

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Getting to here with a curled 
wrist will give you more spin. 

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And that's why you see like 
Thomas Gilbert crazy spin, Zach 

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Nash crazy spin. 
They're really deep, right? 

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Their wrist is super curled all 
the way to the last second. 

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And it when I very first started
it, I I was under the, I don't 

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know if someone taught me or 
just the way I just started 

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doing it, but I would have my 
hand and I would bring the disc 

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tote close to my chest. 
But I think I need to start 

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putting it outward. 
Would you agree? 

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Yeah, I think the best way to 
learn is to give yourself a butt

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load of space. 
You only want to start getting 

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closer and closer to yourself 
kind of as you start really 

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going to the advanced side of 
things. 

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I think most beginners are 
probably like collapsing and 

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coming in too close. 
Yeah, you could throw really 

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hard being really far from 
yourself. 

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So I would probably advise learn
to throw like with a more space 

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than you need and then trim it 
down from there once you kind of

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get to that advanced level, I'd 
say. 

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Gotcha. 
OK. 

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And is anything happening with 
the shoulders? 

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Is that just kind of part of the
arm? 

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There's a lot happening with the
shoulders. 

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Hey, let's let's go there's. 
There's external anterior 

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rotation which does need to be 
managed some. 

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I like to teach as neutral as 
possible. 

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One of the most important thing 
is depressing your shoulder. 

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So there's elevating your 
shoulder. 

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You'll see this in a lot of 
amateurs where they shrug as 

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they pull once. 
It's not very safe for the 

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shoulder. 
Elevating your shoulder out of 

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the socket puts it in a little 
bit more of a dangerous 

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position. 
Also, it makes your body cut 

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power to it 'cause it doesn't 
want to hurt you. 

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So keeping it depressed is 
really good. 

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I like to keep it protracted for
a good amount of the throw to 

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give me more space for my chest.
And then there is some 

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retraction that happens at the 
end of the throw for sure. 

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And if we're just going to, if 
we want to talk about upper body

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the most, I think managing your 
angles is extremely important. 

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So when you reach back, you 
don't ever want to get this 

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bicep to pack angle inside of 
90° ever through the whole 

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throw. 
If you do that, like let's just 

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say I start at 90 and as soon as
I start turning, it collapses 

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some. 
So now we're at like, you know, 

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45 or something. 
The more collapsed I get, the 

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weaker I am in this position. 
So the more collapse I get, the 

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weaker my muscles actually are. 
OK, so once you collapse a 

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little bit, it becomes you can't
pull out of it because now 

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you've weakened your position 
and now you can't recover from 

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the collapse. 
So it's much better to stay on 

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the good side of 90, the whole 
throw where you're strong, than 

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to let yourself collapse a 
little bit and then try to dig 

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your way out of it. 
And there are really good pro 

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players who dig themselves out 
of it after collapsing a little 

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bit, but generally it's not the 
most efficient and effective way

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in my opinion. 
Got you. 

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OK, so finally we're up to our 
my head. 

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What am I doing with my head? 
Am I looking at where I'm going 

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to throw? 
Am I looking back behind me? 

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Because I've heard all different
advice as far as like not 

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looking behind me, not, you 
know, you know, whatever. 

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So what? 
What's your advice? 

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I think obviously there's like 
you want to keep your eye on the

450
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240
target as long as possible. 
I think that can be overdone. 

451
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,680
There are some, like a lot of 
students that I have, it's like 

452
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,680
they're trying to look at the 
target all the time when they 

453
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,320
should be kind of committing to 
their coil. 

454
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,440
And when I say committing to 
their coil, it's like, yeah, we 

455
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,200
want to look at the target as 
we're walking up. 

456
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,960
But once we start striding into 
that last step, we need to take 

457
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,160
our eyes off the target to 
actually get a good coil. 

458
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,600
It's very hard to turn yourself 
back as much as you need to 

459
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,160
while keeping your eyes forward 
on the target. 

460
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,960
So generally eyes on the target 
till that last stride starts. 

461
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,280
And then you want to let your 
head allow your coil so you can,

462
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,040
you can even look backwards if 
you need to. 

463
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840
And then you, the only other 
real thing to manage is you 

464
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,160
don't want to be leading the 
throw with your head. 

465
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,280
So I like to say if your eyes 
are on the disk or farther back,

466
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,320
right, you're in a good spot. 
So when I'm reach back, my eyes 

467
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,720
are on the disc. 
When I'm in the pocket, my eyes 

468
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,240
are generally neutral. 
And I don't ever want to be in a

469
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240
position where like, let's say 
I'm in the pocket, I don't want 

470
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,880
my eyes to be here in front of 
where the disc is going because 

471
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,680
generally your body like follows
your head. 

472
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,400
So if you reach back and start 
the throw by looking forward, 

473
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,520
you can see I'm going to 
immediately collapse my arm. 

474
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,280
This angle that we just talked 
about, the 90°, as soon as I 

475
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,040
look forward, that collapses 
immediately and then once again,

476
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,080
I can't pull out of there. 
So now my efficiency just 

477
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,920
plummeted and that's all I did 
was move my eyes. 

478
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,600
So it's like it can be such like
a butterfly effect doing 

479
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,400
something so small. 
But I have a drill called the 

480
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,520
look back drill where you just 
focus on like basically loosely 

481
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,440
gazing slightly behind neutral 
and you just kind of keep your 

482
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,600
arm, your eyes there and let the
throw finish before you move 

483
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,640
them. 
And it really helps people not 

484
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,760
collapse. 
It's pretty incredible, like 

485
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,640
what the odds can do in 
powerlifting too. 

486
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000
Wow, I mean, I know most people 
are like no kidding, Bobby, but 

487
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,120
I mean, it's just like so much 
is like like I've told, tell 

488
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,960
people so much is happening and 
so much has to go right, or at 

489
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,920
least be closer to going right 
to achieve the, you know, the 

490
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:47,240
maximum a distance. 
So, and I would assume obviously

491
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,520
you probably watch a lot of pros
throw. 

492
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,640
Give me like a hint like maybe 
two or three examples. 

493
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,080
If someone's like tell me who to
watch just to kind of observe a 

494
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320
great form. 
As far as throwing, give me a 

495
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200
few. 
I have 3/3 what you got I have. 

496
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,080
Three, so the simplest form I 
think anyone could try to 

497
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,640
mirror. 
So if you're at a very beginner 

498
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,400
level and you're trying to learn
to throw correctly, watch Nick 

499
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,640
Los Angeles. 
He has by far the simplest 

500
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,160
mechanics and he does everything
he possibly can to make it crazy

501
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,680
simple and not able like to mess
up. 

502
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240
So he's not using any of the 
advanced mechanics that a lot of

503
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560
the really, really crazy hard 
throwers are using. 

504
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,120
He's just using just the 
fundamentals, just the basics. 

505
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:36,040
He could probably touch 70, but 
he's extremely accurate, 

506
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,040
extremely consistent. 
So if you're looking for a 

507
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,280
throat of mirror as a beginner, 
he's exactly what I would point 

508
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,920
any of my students to next tier 
up. 

509
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,960
Very simple, little bit more 
powerful. 

510
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,040
And also someone who probably 
does the geometric part of like 

511
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,040
configuring things so 90° or 
farther and keeping your elbows 

512
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,480
far away from you as you 
possibly can, getting your your 

513
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,880
disk as far away from you at 
release as you can. 

514
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,520
So these are like efficiency 
cues where like we're trying to 

515
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,080
just increase the length of our 
levers, right? 

516
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,640
Zach Nash, he he basically does 
everything correctly like to AT 

517
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,120
and that's why he's able to walk
up super slow and throw, you 

518
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,160
know, 80 miles an hour ish, 
right, with 1700 RPM or 1800 

519
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,360
RPM. 
And it the he's a fantastic 

520
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,400
example of like your legs, 
they're just not adding as much 

521
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,480
as you think when it comes to 
like momentum, right? 

522
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,720
He's sauntering up the T pad and
just throwing absolute bombs 

523
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,240
with and his power metrics are 
giant and power metrics consider

524
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,400
like speed and spin, right, 
because they both take power. 

525
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,360
So his added together are like 
some of the best in the game and

526
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,920
he's doing it with, you know, a 
one mile an hour walk up. 

527
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,920
So it's like he, it's much, much
more about configuring your 

528
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,120
parts correctly and letting the 
energy transfer efficiently than

529
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,160
it is about just absolute B 
lining at the T pad and then 

530
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,680
collapsing yourself. 
And now you're getting 13% of 

531
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280
the power of your throw, you 
know, and you're using every 

532
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,800
muscle in your body. 
So third has to be mentioned, 

533
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Anthony Barilla. 
I competed at USD GC with him 

534
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,160
this year and he just murdered 
the field. 

535
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,080
It wasn't close. 
He threw more overstable discs, 

536
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,360
harder, lower, and just crushed 
everybody. 

537
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:30,480
It was a very windy, very hard 
headwind and his ability to 

538
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,960
throw a really stable disc just 
ultra hard just decimated the 

539
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440
field because we were all trying
to throw less stable discs to 

540
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600
actually get our S flights, 
yadda, yadda. 

541
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,280
And he was just like, Nah, I'll 
just throw, you know, an 

542
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,720
overstable nuke, 80 miles an 
hour, low laser beam, so the 

543
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,240
wind can't do anything. 
His form is awesome. 

544
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,840
He does a lot of really good 
stuff. 

545
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,760
And he's just really like flowy,
you know, he's, he's really like

546
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,280
clean, not muscling it too much 
and just good mechanics. 

547
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,480
Nice. 
Who's somebody that like, you 

548
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,360
watch their form and you're 
like, they should not be 

549
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,000
throwing that. 
Well, is there someone out there

550
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,920
like that? 
Oh, someone out there who? 

551
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,000
Oh, that's you want me to call 
somebody out for having bad? 

552
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
For well, but I mean it someone 
who's like they're, they're 

553
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840
doing well and they're and 
they're throwing far and it's 

554
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,080
like, man, there's you. 
You should not be throwing that 

555
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,720
far based on the mechanics of it
all, I mean. 

556
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Probably me, honestly, I think, 
I think, I think most people 

557
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,080
would probably say me, I think. 
Like I like, I don't, I don't 

558
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,360
observe it obviously as as much 
as you do as much as a lot of 

559
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,200
people. 
But like someone like James 

560
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Conrad with that super long 
throw and he's just very like 

561
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,680
flowy and everything. 
It's like, I would think as like

562
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
if looking at the mechanics, and
maybe again, it could be just my

563
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,840
ignorant eye watching, but the 
mechanics would seem like it 

564
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600
kind of goes against a little 
bit of what people think it 

565
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,760
takes to throw far. 
I I do agree, I think that if 

566
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600
you actually slow MO his 
mechanics, they're not that bad.

567
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,400
Yeah, he is doing a lot of like 
bringing in too much momentum, 

568
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,800
bracing just a small amount of 
it and then letting the rest 

569
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,000
just flow over. 
But we see like AB do that on 

570
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,960
three 60s as well. 
Like AB just flies straight past

571
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,880
his brace on three 60s. 
So it's like, it's not bad, 

572
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,920
right? 
It's maybe he could get away 

573
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120
with just walking up slower and 
it wouldn't have any ill effects

574
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,000
on him, that's for sure. 
But generally. 

575
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Unconventional. 
Maybe a little unconventional is

576
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,120
a better way to put it. 
Yeah, yeah, I think Chris 

577
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,920
Dickerson, he he definitely 
like, he throws so good and it 

578
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,000
doesn't look like he's going to 
throw so good when he when he 

579
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,560
runs up the T pad, but then he's
just like a monster. 

580
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760
So I would say like 
unconventional Chris Dickerson, 

581
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,720
you could probably learn a lot 
about, you know what you can get

582
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,480
away with by watching like a 
Chris Dickerson? 

583
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,640
He he does just enough of the 
right things where it's like his

584
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,080
throw is still amazing and you 
don't need to look beautiful. 

585
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,600
You know, Silas Schultz famously
said like form is for Instagram,

586
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,240
right? 
And it's it's kind of true. 

587
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640
You can you can get away with a 
lot if you have just a few 

588
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,840
pieces going correctly and the 
main pieces are like the upper 

589
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,120
body timing and like geometry. 
If you can get those right. 

590
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,080
I mean, you watch AB impersonate
people's forms. 

591
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,920
He can impersonate half the 
freaking pro tour like to AT and

592
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840
still throw 70 miles an hour 
while doing it. 

593
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,600
It's like he's not used to that,
but once you get the correct 

594
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,960
upper body mechanics it's like 
it doesn't really matter that 

595
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,920
much. 
You can throw 70 from like most 

596
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,280
positions. 
Yeah, another one I can think of

597
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,800
is who who's hasn't played in a 
while, at least I haven't seen 

598
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,360
him, is Eric Oakley, good buddy 
of mine. 

599
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,160
Yeah, I did an episode with him 
actually on my YouTube I have. 

600
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,120
A oh nice. 
Yeah, his little hop step, 

601
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,520
whatever. 
A lot of people used to really 

602
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,920
get on to him for his little hop
step, but he still could throw 

603
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,960
the disc pretty far. 
Yeah, I definitely, I think I 

604
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,960
think there's a lot of stuff 
that you can, you know, have 

605
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,200
your own style with as long as 
you're getting these little tiny

606
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240
key pieces right, it's like it 
doesn't really matter that much.

607
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,360
That's why I made that video 
where it's like all these things

608
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,480
that people say you can't do 
with your feet. 

609
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,240
It's like generally if you have 
good timing and good upper body 

610
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,680
mechanics, they don't matter 
that much. 

611
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,600
And like you'll see, you see 
people patent pending crazy 

612
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,240
shots, Nicholas, Angela 
stanstilling crazy shots. 

613
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Like if you have the correct 
mechanics you can kind of get 

614
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,480
away with having your own unique
style in other places I think. 

615
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Yeah. 
And of course the other, another

616
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400
part of the equation is getting 
the right disk right. 

617
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,880
You got a lot of beginners that 
they see all these big guns 

618
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,880
throwing these high speed 
drivers and they try to grab 

619
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,880
these high speed drivers. 
It's just not working. 

620
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,320
And then then you're kind of 
working against yourself because

621
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440
in, at least in my observation, 
then they're then their 

622
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,320
mechanics are all wrong because 
you're trying to make that high 

623
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,080
speed disk work for them when 
they need that they need to be 

624
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,120
for working on the form and then
letting the disk do the work 

625
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,120
with them. 
Yeah, I think that's actually 

626
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,240
one thing I get questions on a 
lot. 

627
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,440
It's like, what disks should I 
be throwing for distance? 

628
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,800
And I generally think it sucks 
because I know it feels like 

629
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,920
gatekeeping when people say you 
shouldn't throw 12 speed, you 

630
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960
shouldn't throw 13 speeds till 
you have a certain speed. 

631
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,160
But I think like in a perfect 
world, you're in a field and 

632
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
you're throwing Max distance, 
your farthest disk is going to 

633
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,280
be the highest speed you can 
possibly get. 

634
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720
It is for everyone. 
Even if you throw 50 miles an 

635
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,720
hour, if you get the flippiest 
strike in existence and throw it

636
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,640
perfectly, it's going to be your
farthest flying disk. 

637
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280
But the amount of times you're 
going to have to throw that to 

638
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,680
get that exact right, 
everything, you know, one out of

639
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,840
20 shots is going to go 400 
where if you threw even just a 

640
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,440
12 speed or an 11 speed a race, 
you know 5 out of 20 shots are 

641
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,840
going to go 390. 
So it's like you're you're 

642
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,040
losing 10 feet on the very, very
top end, but your consistency 

643
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,320
just shoots up so much. 
And it's like, I think that's 

644
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,640
why we see a lot of pros using 
12 speeds because it's that good

645
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,080
middle ground where it's like 
it's not too squirrely, but it 

646
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,960
still goes far enough. 
And I think the higher speed you

647
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,600
go, just like physics wise, your
nose angle matters more, the 

648
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,960
height of your shot matters more
because they just respond worse 

649
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,159
to messing up any small 
secondary metric of your throw. 

650
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Excellent. 
All right, so I asked you before

651
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,280
we went online if you would take
the time to watch my throw, 

652
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,040
you'll give me some advice and 
OK, so we're going to move. 

653
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,000
So this is the first time I've 
done this where I've added a 

654
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,840
video while I was talking to 
someone. 

655
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,520
So please bear with me. 
So also remember I'm a big guy. 

656
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,239
I'm I'm, I'm in my mid 50s, just
turned 54, but I'm still active.

657
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,760
I still get out there that is 
kind of an I'm, I'm actually 

658
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,199
working on a video called my 
January Reset where it's like, 

659
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,760
I'm ever since getting this job 
back at Dynamic Discs, it's been

660
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,520
stressful, but it's, it's been 
good. 

661
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,320
But I put on some weight and 
I'm, I'm getting going to go get

662
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,080
back to my healthy activities, 
my healthy eating and stuff like

663
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,600
that. 
So anyway, I'm just let you know

664
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,080
that's what's happening. 
But I'm going to, what I did was

665
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,640
I threw I think 3 times from the
side and then a couple times 

666
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000
filmed it from the back. 
And so we'll kind of go through 

667
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,800
that. 
OK, hold on. 

668
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,720
Let me get this going, see if I 
can make this work. 

669
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Here we go. 
OK. 

670
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,880
And I can pause it anytime you 
need me to. 

671
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Yeah, give me a, Give me a Just 
scroll through these frames kind

672
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,760
of slowly. 
If it'll let me do that. 

673
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,840
All right, let's see. 
Yeah, I think the lag time won't

674
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,480
let me scroll or scrub through 
it, Yeah. 

675
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,120
OK, I see one thing already. 
Show me it one more time or two 

676
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,240
more times and I'll try to pick 
something out each time. 

677
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,400
OK, one more. 
OK, I got you, I got you. 

678
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,800
OK, so the big things I would 
focus on for your Form 1, 

679
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,560
uncoiling your hips into the 
plant. 

680
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,120
So this is a super common 
problem. 

681
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,880
We're like we're coiling up, 
right? 

682
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,640
So we're trying to basically 
face our hips, our front hip 

683
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,720
backwards as we stride forward, 
right? 

684
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,640
That's kind of like to simplify,
that's what we're doing. 

685
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,760
We want to be leading the throat
with our heel, right? 

686
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,360
So when we plant, we're either 
like perpendicular or slightly 

687
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,400
closed. 
The reason we want to do that is

688
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,880
it gives us a really good like 
stopping point for basically our

689
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,520
hips so we can aim better off of
it when we have like a sturdy 

690
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,240
stop. 
The more open we plant, the more

691
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,440
we're having to aim like 
manually, right? 

692
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,760
We're having to use like quad 
power to stop ourselves and 

693
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,200
actually release the disc 
online. 

694
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,520
So the first thing I would say 
is you uncoil slightly into the 

695
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
plant. 
So you coil up OK, but then as 

696
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,800
you start to place your front 
foot down, you let it wind open.

697
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,480
So you basically give yourself 
coil and then give it away 

698
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,360
before you throw. 
What I would recommend is 

699
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,800
there's I have a drill called 
the Reaper drill where basically

700
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,720
you're focused on coiling up, 
shifting forward while coiled 

701
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,200
and then throwing. 
So and you'll see this in in 

702
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,240
most pros right there at their 
Max coil when that foot gets 

703
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:07,240
down. 
The Reaper drill is just kind of

704
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:10,240
a simple, easy way to do that. 
Second thing. 

705
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,200
I think your pull through is a 
little low generally. 

706
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,760
I think mechanically, right? 
You want your elbow as far from 

707
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,400
your spine as possible. 
That's going to make your upper 

708
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,920
arm the longest lever it can 
possibly be, right? 

709
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,320
So if you pull through low, 
you're giving away some of that 

710
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,760
distance of your elbow being 
away from your spine just by 

711
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,600
virtue of it being lower, right?
Because this is just less room. 

712
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,480
So if you pull through kind of 
belly button level, generally 

713
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,280
you're giving away some of that 
mechanical efficiency. 

714
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,680
So I recommend kind of around 
the nipple to upper rib area is 

715
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840
a good spot where you can keep 
your shoulder depressed. 

716
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,840
So it's not kind of too high up 
because if you try to go like 

717
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120
throat level, right, you start 
to get the shoulder shrugging 

718
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,960
and things get all whacked. 
Not good for you, not safe. 

719
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,000
I wouldn't recommend that high. 
But you know, nipple level is 

720
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,560
just that perfect point where 
your shoulders depressed, but 

721
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,680
your elbow is basically as far 
mechanically as it can be from 

722
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,520
your spine. 
That's probably thing #2 you 

723
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,400
would be surprised at how much 
just a smidge of mechanical 

724
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,960
efficiency makes a huge 
difference because it's just 

725
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,920
multiplying your power by more. 
It's like you have like this 

726
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,680
rotation and then you have 
multiple levers, right? 

727
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,920
You have your upper armor is a 
lever, your lower armor is a 

728
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,240
lever, your wrist to hand is a 
lever. 

729
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,960
So the more you can add to this 
upper arm lever, the more this 

730
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,000
guy gets and then the more this 
guy gets. 

731
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,400
So it's like it's exponential 
growth kind of it feels like you

732
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,000
can add a little bit here and by
the time it gets to the disk, 

733
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,440
it's multiplied by even more. 
So just making the upper arm 

734
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,280
lever longer generally, like you
just get pretty effortless 

735
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,360
distance, right? 
And then the last thing is your 

736
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,560
braces. 
Your braces a bit a bit weak and

737
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,760
like soggy, I would say you kind
of bend it and spin on it to 

738
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,720
where like you're not really 
pushing back against your 

739
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,080
momentum as much as you could. 
I would say I have a drill 

740
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,240
called the Donk drill that's 
really good for this. 

741
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,640
It's basically learning how to 
use the vertical push of your 

742
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,560
front leg to add power to your 
throw. 

743
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,680
Basically you kind of there's a 
drill called the piston drill 

744
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,080
where you think about your legs 
as Pistons. 

745
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,400
When you walk up your, your rear
piston is on and you're coiling 

746
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,200
so your front Pistons off and 
it's kind of like folding down 

747
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,200
and in. 
And then as soon as that front 

748
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,880
foot hips, you reverse the 
Pistons. 

749
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,360
This front leg becomes the 
piston going vertically up and 

750
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,880
this rear leg falls down and in.
And that's why you see that 

751
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,000
internal rotation of the of the 
rear hip. 

752
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,520
So there's kind of the three 
things. 

753
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,400
Yeah, nice. 
OK, so I'm going to, I'm glad I 

754
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680
recorded this because I'm going 
to going to go back and watch 

755
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,480
all of it. 
So but yeah, part of my goal, 

756
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,040
the video that I'm working on, 
it's kind of a health reset and 

757
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,720
then a disc golf reset in the 
sense that I am not trying to 

758
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,360
win any records, you know, 
distance records. 

759
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,440
I'm not trying to GoPro. 
I'm just, I, I talk about in the

760
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,400
video, it's like when people go 
out and they go and it's just 

761
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,800
their buddies having fun, the 
cows around and then you're 

762
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,280
doing poorly and someone says. 
Oh well, most fun wins And I'm 

763
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,680
like, I'm not having fun getting
bogeys and double bogeys. 

764
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,280
I at least want to get pars. 
I'd obviously love would get to 

765
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,760
get birdies, but I want to get 
more pars, more birdies. 

766
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,040
And so I know adding a little 
bit more distance and of course 

767
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,440
accuracy is going to help me 
achieve that. 

768
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,440
So that's kind of my goal 
through this year is to up my, 

769
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,560
my distance and I set a 
baseline. 

770
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,880
I, I go out to a field, I throw 
it three times. 

771
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Got a speed 10 disc, I throw it 
three times and I set whatever 

772
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,400
is the farthest that's my 
baseline distance. 

773
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,840
And then from there I'm going 
to, I'm going to kind of grow 

774
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,520
from there. 
So I'm going to use your advice 

775
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,200
and put it, if you don't mind, 
I'm going to put that in that 

776
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,520
video and actually work through 
some of the advice that you give

777
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,240
me and see, see what I can do 
now. 

778
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:53,400
I'd give you 1. 
More tip. 

779
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,280
Yeah, one more tip. 
So one thing you'll see really 

780
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440
good players do a lot is this 
sideways disc free throw, right 

781
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,760
where they're holding the disc 
sideways like this in their 

782
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,000
hand, right? 
And the reason for this is it's 

783
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,800
much easier to keep your elbow 
up. 

784
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:08,760
Like whenever you have your hand
like this, right, when you put 

785
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680
your palm down, right, you're 
going to find it's easier to 

786
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,480
keep your elbow up. 
It's like a natural thing. 

787
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,480
When I try to spin my palm down,
my elbow moves upward. 

788
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,360
And when I try to spin my palm 
the other way, my elbow moves 

789
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160
downward, right? 
It's just natural. 

790
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,880
So when you do your pre throw, 
do this sideways disc right 

791
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,120
where you're basically only 
focused on this space right 

792
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,480
here, distance from elbow to 
spine. 

793
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,240
And you literally just do this. 
Boom, this is where I want you, 

794
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,240
where you're as far away as you 
can in your pre throw. 

795
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:43,440
OK, so just like that, here's my
hand. 

796
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,480
It's directly sideways, so you 
don't need to hold it like a 

797
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,280
disc golf grip. 
Yep. 

798
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,520
And you just go bang. 
OK, OK, I'll try that. 

799
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560
It helps a lot with just getting
the feeling right before the 

800
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,880
throw. 
It's kind of like a reminder to 

801
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,880
your body, like this is what we 
want to be doing, you know? 

802
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,880
Yeah. 
Nice. 

803
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,440
OK, so another question that 
popped my mind is that so let's 

804
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600
say I go out here or even with 
your students that you've done 

805
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,320
stuff with how like how quickly 
I'm assuming obvious depends on 

806
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,920
how much work you put into. 
But like, I guess I'm thinking 

807
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,440
like if I go out there and do 
this a few times, if I'm not 

808
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,400
really getting better distance. 
How long do you think it takes 

809
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,360
for your body to kind of unlearn
the bad habits and relearn the 

810
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,000
new habit? 
OK, so it's it's definitely 

811
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,880
dependent on a whole bunch of 
factors. 

812
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,280
And the first one is how long 
have you been doing the bad 

813
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160
habit? 
So if you've been playing for 20

814
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,320
years and you've been low pull 
through the whole 20 years, it's

815
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,320
like it's going to take your 
body a long a while at least to 

816
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,880
figure out how to like on the 
course, keep that elbow up. 

817
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,080
So that's why I have things like
that sideways disc drill because

818
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,360
you're on the T pad, your brain 
seeing the hole, it's seeing the

819
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,680
line and you're reminding at the
same time, keep that elbow up. 

820
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,560
That's just a little trick that 
you can do to kind of meld those

821
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,240
two things together. 
So your body like moves toward 

822
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:08,720
it more quickly, right. 
And I would say the the how much

823
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:13,680
like you gain from a change has 
a lot to do with like how badly 

824
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,000
it's kind of messing you up. 
So for you like your upper body,

825
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,800
change is probably going to make
the biggest difference. 

826
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,240
Like you, you could see, no 
joke, you know, 40 feet in like 

827
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:25,400
less than a month. 
If you got that elbow up and you

828
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,760
actually like practiced it, you 
did your pre throw, sideways 

829
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,000
disc throw and you just increase
that mechanical efficiency. 

830
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Like you can see really fast 
gains with something like that. 

831
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,280
When it comes to the legs, it's 
going to probably take a little 

832
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,560
bit longer because like learning
to brace is freaking hard. 

833
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Like really hard. 
And it gets harder the older you

834
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,040
are, right? 
When you're a kid, it's easy 

835
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,000
because you don't really have a 
normal and you can adapt super 

836
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,320
fast. 
But when you're an adult, it's 

837
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,560
like you've been in balance for 
50 years now. 

838
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,920
You're trying to teach your body
how to throw while you're like 

839
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,400
dynamically, diagonally balanced
on this brace. 

840
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,400
It's like your body hates that, 
right? 

841
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,760
Anytime your head and shout out 
to Chris Taylor for this 

842
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,320
specific quote. 
Anytime your head is not like 

843
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,800
balanced over your body, your 
body freaks out if you're not 

844
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,800
used to it, right? 
So when you're bracing, you're 

845
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,760
basically like diagonal leg. 
And then your head is here, 

846
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,720
right, completely on like a 
different plane. 

847
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,440
And you're in this dynamic 
balance where the only thing 

848
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,240
keeping you balanced is your 
momentum moving forward. 

849
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:34,000
So learning to be OK with that 
and not like freak out a little 

850
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,160
bit to try to regain your 
balance is learning how to 

851
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,200
brace. 
So I wouldn't expect to see like

852
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,240
quick brace gains for basically 
anybody. 

853
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,160
And that's why I say like fix 
your upper body first, because 

854
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,400
you can throw 400 feet with 
pretty crappy brace and just a 

855
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,920
really good upper body. 
And it's not the opposite. 

856
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,400
You can't throw 400 feet with 
just a really good brace and a 

857
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600
crappy upper body. 
So the best course of action is 

858
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,040
fix your upper body first, get 
all the gains you can reap out 

859
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,240
of there. 
You're going to have fun. 

860
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,240
You're going to throw 400 feet, 
you're going to be freaking 

861
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:05,400
having a blast. 
And then if you really want to 

862
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,560
push for that 500, five, 5600, 
wherever you want to go, that's 

863
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,280
when you can do the six month, 
one year, 2 year grind of just 

864
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,240
slowly getting a better brace. 
And the benefit is every time 

865
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,880
you make a breakthrough on your 
brace, it will go straight 

866
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640
through because you're already 
being super efficient. 

867
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,280
So whenever you add power, it 
just goes straight through. 

868
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Like out of 95% ratio, right? 
Like, I recently broke 80 and it

869
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,920
took me like a couple sessions 
of figuring out something in my 

870
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,440
brace because my upper body was 
already basically perfect. 

871
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520
So as soon as I added that leg 
power, it just went straight 

872
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,840
into the disk. 
I saw a five mile per hour jump 

873
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,280
in my speed and it was, you 
know, easy. 

874
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,800
But it's not the same the other 
way around, right? 

875
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120
The upper body is bad. 
It's like you're not going to 

876
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,880
see gains quickly. 
You're going to see like a half 

877
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,720
a mile per hour. 
If you increase your brace, it's

878
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,320
because yeah, you're getting 40%
efficiency from it. 

879
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Wow, OK, I'll keep that in mind 
for sure. 

880
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Well, I appreciate all this, 
man. 

881
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,600
This That's that's good advice 
and stuff. 

882
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,440
I'm going to actually put in the
practice for sure. 

883
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,680
I appreciate that. 
Yeah. 

884
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,440
So you do, other than just the 
YouTube videos and things like 

885
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,880
that, you, it sounds like you do
some sort of one-on-one 

886
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,280
coaching. 
Yeah, I coached through for 

887
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,400
Marrow. 
I have a lot of students. 

888
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,720
I have a lot of reviews so if 
anyone wants to check down on 

889
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,560
there you can go read all the 
reviews if you want. 

890
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,560
It's like a hundreds at this 
point, so you can see what kind 

891
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,400
of what my clients think about 
me and stuff like that. 

892
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,320
It's just kind of just AI mean. 
I know the buzzword is side 

893
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,640
hustle, but is this is this kind
of a side hustle for you or is 

894
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,240
this something you want to see 
grow into whatever it can 

895
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,760
become? 
Yeah, you know, it, it didn't 

896
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,080
start as anything that I really 
planned on being. 

897
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,520
I still have a full time job, so
I definitely like, you know, my 

898
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,200
time is stretched, especially 
with the amount of clients I've 

899
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,960
gotten. 
So it's kind of like after work 

900
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,880
knock out as many reviews as I 
can, try to keep up with the 

901
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,240
demand and I don't know what 
it'll morph into eventually, but

902
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,560
it's been fun. 
I've been enjoying it so far. 

903
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,840
So I'm going to keep doing it 
for for, you know, at least a 

904
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,320
while longer. 
I've just resigned with 

905
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,760
infinite. 
So that was super cool. 

906
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,880
They have been awesome sponsor 
to me, so shout out to them. 

907
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,160
And yeah, I'm going to keep keep
going while the getting's good, 

908
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,640
right? 
Absolutely I I think it's 

909
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,160
awesome all right, so I know 
people can go find you on 

910
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,400
YouTube blitz DG on YouTube and 
then I think it's the same name 

911
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,400
on Instagram correct Blitz under
score disc golf to find you on 

912
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,880
Instagram and guys, I highly 
recommend that you follow him, 

913
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,040
especially on YouTube. 
He's got all kinds of elbow the 

914
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,080
disc. 
Let's see why why lower back 

915
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,440
extension is ruining your throw.
Fix your plant, plant foot 

916
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,320
workout program for disc golf. 
So he's got a lot of information

917
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,080
for you guys if you want to 
improve your game. 

918
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,400
If you're somebody wanting to 
GoPro, I think that'd be 

919
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,080
fantastic. 
But if you're just a casual 

920
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,560
player and you're sick of 
hearing most fun wins and you 

921
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,320
want to really have at least a 
more little more fun by playing 

922
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,960
a little bit better, then I 
definitely suggest you check it 

923
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,400
out. 
Well, again, I appreciate you 

924
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,680
coming on the show and maybe in 
about six or seven months maybe 

925
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,280
we can check back with you and 
and I can tell you how I'm doing

926
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,560
with my distance. 
Be sure I I'm interested to know

927
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,760
so don't don't forget to reach 
out. 

928
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,040
All right, man, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much again for 

929
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,160
coming on. 
Thanks, Bobby.