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Hey everybody, welcome to this 
episode of the Disc Golf Answer 

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Man. 
I am Bobby Cool Daddy, Slick 

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Breeze, and on this special disc
Golf Answer Man interview 

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episode, I have 6 sided disc. 
Now I've told you guys before on

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past episodes that when I got 
back to Dynamic Discs, getting 

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back in the disc golf, I did a 
deep dive into what's going on 

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as far as content creation and 
social media because that's kind

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of my bread and butter, right? 
It's what I love doing. 

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And I came across 6 sided disc 
and the biggest, the one that 

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draw drew my attention was I saw
thumbnail that said flight 

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numbers don't matter. 
And I was like this guy gets it.

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He knows me, he knows my 
message. 

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And so I watched a couple of 
those and it made total sense 

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how he broke down how different 
how discs work for different 

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levels of players. 
And so I did some more research 

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watching his videos and I loved 
his style and I thought man, I 

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got to get this guy on the show.
And of course, he reached out to

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me and wanted to be on the show.
So I was like, let's let's get 

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you on the show. 
So right now we have Greg. 

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So Greg, how are you doing? 
I am doing great, Bobby, Thank 

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you so much for having me. 
I've watched content, disc golf 

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content for like over five years
now. 

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And so I remember like Dynamic 
Discs had some of the best 

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content out there when I got 
back into the sport, which I 

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think we'll probably talk about 
the timing of that as well. 

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But you know, you guys had some 
great stuff, enjoyed all the 

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like tutorials and form and 
unique and just, you know, 

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enjoying nerding out about 
content, talking about the pro 

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tour, following along with 
everything. 

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So it's exciting that you're 
back and thank you so much for 

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having me. 
Absolutely. 

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Thank you so much for all those 
kind words. 

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I appreciate that. 
But I want to use this as a way 

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to explore and for me to get to 
know a little bit more about 

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you. 
And I'm sure some of my 

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listeners, I'm sure they've 
heard of you, they watch your 

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videos, but I'm selfishly going 
to learn more about you on 

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because it's my show, you know. 
So, but tell me, what is your 

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origin story? 
How did you even get into disc 

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golf? 
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creating content for disc golf? 
So I mean, my disc golf origin 

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story goes back pretty far. 
I just turned 38. 

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So my origin story goes back 
over 20 years to when I was in 

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high school and I just happened 
to be riding my bike around town

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with a friend of mine. 
We rode over to this park that 

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we knew that was at a reservoir,
which anybody that's familiar 

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with Central Ohio disc golf will
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Brent Hambrick Memorial Disc 
Golf Course at Hoover Reservoir.

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We rode across the dam and we're
like, what are these? 

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What are these like metal cages?
What's going on here? 

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We didn't really have any idea. 
And we decided, oh, let's go 

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stop by a nearby gas station and
get a drink. 

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And we go in and there's like a 
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This is like the end of a 
marketing strategy, right? 

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And so we, we just stumbled on 
them and even the old AVR stamp 

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used to show a basket with a 
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It's sort of like, OK, great. 
That that's exactly what that's 

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for. 
Cool. 

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Well, let's try it. 
So we bought a couple discs and,

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you know, played casually back 
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And then like so many people 
just forgot about it, forgot 

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about disc golf, got caught up 
with college, work, getting 

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married, having a kid, all the 
stuff you that you do. 

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And then right before COVID, I 
just went down this like YouTube

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rabbit hole and found I think I 
was watching Dude Perfect videos

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with my son. 
They had done trick shot videos 

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with Brody. 
We watched some of those. 

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And then there was a video that 
Brody did with Simon Paul and 

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Joe Mez where they were all 
doing like Frisbee and disc golf

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trick shots. 
And I was like, oh, dude, disc 

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golf like forgot all about it. 
And so I went to my wife. 

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I kept telling my wife and I 
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recreated this in a video, but 
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I'm just like, like, babe, I 
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somewhere. 
Like we got to find them. 

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And she's like, what if you 
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Like what? 
That's so smart. 

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And so I went and found him in 
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again. 
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So you know where this story 
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Nothing to do. 
I worked from home at the time 

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for Apple. 
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AM because everybody was on 
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And so I would wake up, play 
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work, repeat every day, every 
day, every because there was 

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nothing else to do. 
And I was kind of fortunate 

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because in Columbus, OH, which 
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about 40 minutes away, they 
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early COVID, that kind of, you 
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didn't know what was going to 
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Could you go out and touch 
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Who knows? 
Nobody was even playing disc 

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golf there. 
So luckily where I live, they 

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left the baskets in and just put
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under them and be like, please 
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it and that kind of thing. 
And so that was all I did for 

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months and months and months. 
And then I've kind of figured 

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out really quickly that I wanted
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Like I just knew I wanted to 
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more than just playing that. 
And the fact that I picked it up

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again at like 33, I kind of knew
like I wasn't going to go places

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as a player. 
So I needed to figure out what 

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what my space was and here we 
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That's awesome man, now where 
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6 sided. 
So I think early on, I mean, 

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that sort of business idea 
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and mystery boxes were nuts at 
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Disk Mania's mystery boxes would
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And I just had this idea of 
like, well, mystery boxes are 

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cool. 
It's exciting to get a bunch of 

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stuff that you're not expecting.
But you would also hear people 

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complain like I got all this 
stuff that I don't want or don't

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need. 
And so we thought, well, what if

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we create a bunch of mystery 
boxes that you that actually set

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some expectations. 
So we had one that was over 

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stable discs. 
We had one that was neutral to 

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under stable discs. 
We had one that was white dyable

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discs. 
And we branded all of those the 

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Crusher box, the technician box,
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We had one for glow discs, one 
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And those did OK, but I think 
the name related to partly the 

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idea of, of the mystery boxes 
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happened to to make. 
I just really, I like the logo. 

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I liked the the idea of the 
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And I had this like short list 
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none of them made any sense. 
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know, no disrespect to any of 
the companies that have names 

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like this, but this like generic
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something. 
I was like, I don't, I just want

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to be different. 
How do we stand out? 

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And six sided discs was the 
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The logo had six sides, whether 
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Boxes are cubes, sort of, or at 
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that has probably a different 
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But anyways, they all had six 
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It rolled off the tongue. 
That's how we got there. 

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Very cool. 
That's awesome. 

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Now, from my perspective, but a 
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informational, very like you 
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which I think is fantastic. 
What? 

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Why was that the direction you 
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I think there's two reasons for 
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I think one comes from my 
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was a trainer. 
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everyday. 
I something very similar to this

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where I would be on camera with 
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virtual classroom and 
instructing them through, you 

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know, learning a new skill set, 
supporting customers in a new 

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thing, rolling out some new 
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And I just really enjoyed that. 
I enjoyed the satisfaction of 

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helping somebody learn something
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I think the other side of it was
looking at disc golf content at 

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the time that I was watching. 
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no, no disrespect to the people 
that do it really well, but most

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disc golf content is somebody 
with a phone in a field at a 

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course or whatever doing their 
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And sometimes that's fun and 
entertaining and maybe, maybe 

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sometimes it's something else. 
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those videos that were supposed 
to be informative, I felt like I

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was missing something. 
I was like, I want to see more 

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like show me close-ups of the 
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And and like anyone who knows 
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if you hold up a disk and look 
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that tells you a lot about what 
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disk is going to fly. 
How wide is the rim? 

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Is it blunt? 
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Is it whatever. 
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quickly that the videos that I 
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partially out on the course 
somewhere, because I wanted to 

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compare and learn about discs 
and see how they flew compared 

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to each other. 
But I also wanted to have that 

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as close as it could get to the 
audience, being able to touch 

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and feel and look at the disc. 
And so we started combining on 

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course footage in studio, kind 
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looking at the texture and feel,
the plastic, the shape of the 

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rim. 
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felt was important was to script
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Now, scripting it doesn't come 
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because our videos are 
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I don't decide before I leave 
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fly that way or this discs going
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whatever. 
That just happens. 

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And so we go out, we shoot the 
footage we, we get as we throw 

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it as many times as we need to, 
to feel like we understand how 

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it flies. 
And then we come back, go 

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through that footage, trace the 
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it, which has become kind of 
like a pet peeve of mine when I 

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watch. 
I'm like trying to see a disc 

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flying on camera and it's just 
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Where did it go? 
I don't know. 

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And, and I, I, you know, anyone 
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to trace stuff. 
I use an app on my phone. 

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Super easy. 
I will teach anybody how to do 

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it just to make all content a 
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But once I have all that 
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to kind of write itself. 
What is the, what is the journey

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that we're going on? 
What are we trying to learn 

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about? 
And so a lot of times I don't 

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even have like a title or a 
thumbnail or or a like real 

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solid idea of what the video is 
about until we've already gone 

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and shot a bunch of stuff. 
I love that. 

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What I love about that is that, 
you know, you get a lot of 

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people that want to start 
creating content, whether it's 

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disc golf or any, anything and 
anything else. 

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And they're like, in their mind,
they're thinking, well, 

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something's like that is already
out there. 

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People already do that. 
You know, I'm nothing, it's 

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nothing new. 
Well, now actually your 

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perspective is something new. 
So like you said, you saw other 

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people doing disc golf, 
informational type content, 

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instructional type content, but 
there were for you, there was 

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something missing and you said, 
I'm going to fill that gap that 

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I see is needed and, and you did
it and I think that's fantastic.

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What is, I guess what is kind 
of, you kind of talked a little 

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bit about your process there as 
far as creating content, but 

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kind of dig a little deeper 
about what it, how do you even 

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come up with ideas? 
It's just as you're watching 

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content, you're like, well, 
maybe this should be talked 

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about or, you know, how do you 
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That's a good question. 
I think there's a couple 

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different ways my wife and I 
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My dog is going to come down and
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Everyone's out of town, so I got
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Don't trip on me, please. 
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meeting every week or two that's
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We sit down and we look at a 
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done recently. 
What do we have in the pipeline 

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that we're working on? 
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process for a while was just one
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time because that's all I can 
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And it's all all like the brain 
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breaking down our videos into 
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1 video, but I have to do 20 
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video, like just from start to 
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that need done. 
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up with like a rough concept and
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Selecting the discs then based 
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a hold of now? 
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starts out loosely into one of 
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We have one called Flight 
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That's typically larger scale 
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It might be choosing a specific 
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whatever disks can we find 
around 55 negative 11. 

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approaches flight numbers 
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So like the buzz is 5/4 negative
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comments we get is why didn't 
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week, so couldn't, couldn't get 
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But flight numbers don't matter 
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popular series big like, you 
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comparing at a time. 
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the details where we take more 
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or, or dig into like is glow 
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What's the most durable plastic?
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simple as a question, a question
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comments, we hear people talk 
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line height as this sort of like
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If the parting line height is 
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be more overstable than another 
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It isn't there. 
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go into how a disk flies, which 
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of ideas for things we can talk 
about there. 

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But we also have a series and 
like this other series, the disc

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is in the details. 
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for like any idea I have that's 
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different players of different 
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disc. 
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That fits in in that series. 
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a narrower focus, one disc, two 
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like that. 
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story about one specific disc. 
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my most favorite to do, which is
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I've never thrown a certain 
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I reach out to them and I say, 
hey, can you send me some discs?

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I want to explore them. 
I want to learn about them. 

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That's what this stack here is 
on my desk. 

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We've got a Destroyer from 
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thrown them until a couple days 
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Nice plastic. 
That's all. 

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All I've done so far for this 
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course, review those shots and 
trace the flights. 

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So I haven't figured out what 
the story is yet. 

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I haven't started writing the 
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it's not this week's video. 
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video a couple weeks ago with 
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And like every now and then, I 
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predict like how well a video 
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care or whatever a long time 
ago. 

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But we we got a hold of their 
first disc, their only disc they

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currently make called The 
Wonder. 

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It's a straight mid range. 
It has a ton of glide and it 

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does genuinely fly much farther 
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It just keeps kind of right when
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it pushes like another 4050 
feet. 

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And we tried to capture that as 
best we could because it did fly

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like that for us, which was 
great. 

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But I did a little interview 
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and put this video out. 
And it was just like, hey, this 

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is the best disc you've never 
heard of. 

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And I think it got about 14,000 
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they're a smaller company, 
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and they're an import brand. 
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Wonders in North America. 
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sold out in the in in all of 
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Like I did not financially 
benefit from that from a from a 

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business perspective. 
Could I have handled that 

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better? 
Maybe. 

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But I didn't quit my job at 
Apple to make money in disc 

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golf. 
You know, there were things were

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things were financially much 
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company in the world. 
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I would imagine so. 
Very cool. 

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OK, so let's talk about flights 
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Just because, yeah, this is sure
a message I've been preaching 

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for the longest time and that 
that was really the catalyst for

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me, for our series that is. 
Is this right for you? 

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I remember way, way back in the 
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ago, but it is a while back 
where people were just talking 

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about when we on the discount 
Fancy Man show here that they 

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were thinking like, we want to 
see what Bobby thinks, right? 

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I didn't think that when we 
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going to give as a pro world 
champion. 

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He was going to give the advice 
and he was going to talk about 

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disk. 
I was going to be the guy that 

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did all the back and work. 
I asked the questions. 

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I was the goofy guy that, you 
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words, you know, all that. 
But then people would start 

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asking how it threw for me and I
thought, wow, people, the casual

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guy, it makes sense. 
They can't throw a disc like a 

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pro can. 
And so how do we just not talk 

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about that? 
How do we demonstrate that and 

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how do we do a comparison? 
So that's what that came about 

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was people wanted to see how it 
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Anthony or other people that we 
recruit in for the videos. 

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And then it became, and then it 
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you see now that flights don't 
matter as much as you think they

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do because these discs will fly 
differently? 

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What in your mind of doing that 
series? 

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Obviously the big thing is that 
flights don't matter, but what 

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are maybe some other things that
you've discovered in doing that 

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series that is very much AI? 
Don't know if the misinformation

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is the right word, but maybe a 
misunderstanding of flight 

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number. 
What are some of the big bigger 

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ones that come to your mind with
doing that series? 

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That's a great question. 
I like when you hear people talk

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about discs or, or when you hear
two people, let's say they're 

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talking about, you know, like an
evader style disk, like, you 

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know, 0202.5, something like 
that. 

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They they're often using those 
flight numbers to talk about a 

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disk as if it flies the same for
both of them. 

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You know, they're referring to 
like, well, you know, I throw, I

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use it this way or you know, I 
need, I need AT bird type disk. 

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I need an invader type disk. 
I need something like in this 

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space. 
But how that disc flies for me, 

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for you, for anyone that watches
our videos, for the the much 

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younger, faster throwers that we
use in our videos than me is 

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completely different. 
And so flight numbers, they tell

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you something, right? 
They tell you how the disc was 

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intended to fly, but then you 
change the plastic, then you 

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change the weight, then you 
change the thrower and very 

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quickly it becomes a totally 
different disc for different 

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people. 
So for example, last week our 

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video was on Clash Discs. 
It was a collaboration with 

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Northeast Women's Disc Golf, who
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they got together 6 of their 
members of varying skill levels,

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FA 4 to FPO and several 
divisions in between and through

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the Clash Discs soda. 
It's a straight like Orwell. 

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Straight, neutrally rated 
fairway driver -2 two. 

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But what does that mean to 5 or 
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Well, for an FA4 thrower -2 two 
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That was her sort of evader 
slot. 

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Reliable, consistent fade. 
By the time you get to FPO or 

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even some of the FA2 throwers, 
you have a big turnover bomber 

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disc that's flying, you know, 
200 feet farther and 300 feet 

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farther, right? 
So it's a completely different 

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disk. 
And I think like, if there's 

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anything I end a lot of the 
flight numbers don't matter 

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videos by saying you don't know 
a disk till you throw it. 

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And I think there's so many 
great examples of that when it 

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comes to, you know, everybody 
loves an end of a destroyer, 

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right? 
Well, throw a destroyer in every

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single different plastic. 
Or in this case, another video 

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we're working on soon. 
These three stacks of your, I 

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don't know if everybody can see 
all of them, but we've got 8 

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Mako threes from end of A7 
beasts and six rhinos. 

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Each of those is a different 
plastic and you better believe 

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they don't fly the same, but 
they all have the same flight 

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numbers. 
So really, I, I, if there's 

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anything that I could do any 
like magic wand that I could 

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wave, it would be that 
manufacturers figure out a way 

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to give us a little more 
information, give us a little 

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more like, all right, well, 
let's say, you know, let's put 

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it, I'll try and pardon, pardon 
me on this Dynamic Discs 

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channel. 
I'll try and stay inside your 

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terminology. 
How, how different should I 

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expect the disc in Lucid plastic
to fly versus fusion versus 

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Supreme, right. 
And if flight numbers is the way

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to communicate that, great. 
Like let's figure out how to 

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incorporate that. 
MVP does that with some of their

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plastics. 
Fission has a different flight 

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number typically than their 
other premium plastics. 

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So does electron. 
I don't know that I always agree

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with how they change the flight 
number because a lot of fission 

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discs seem to start out moreover
stable, but they beat in faster.

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So that ends up being correct. 
But how does it how does it fly 

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like right off the shelf? 
So I think that's where like a 

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lot of the essence of that comes
from. 

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So I think we're also a shop, 
right? 

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Like I sell this and if somebody
walks up and says, oh, I need 

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another Firebird, I'm like, do 
you, where's your old, where's 

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your old Firebird? 
Show me. 

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And they pull a beat up DX 
Firebird out of their bag. 

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I'm like, no, you don't. 
You need something totally 

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different. 
Yeah, yeah, Cuz I remember, I 

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mean this, I've talked about 
this situation before where I 

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was out travelling with the RV's
a long time ago and people would

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come up and ask, you know, about
certain discs. 

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And I remember them asking about
a disk. 

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And I was like, what do you 
throw now for your distance 

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driver? 
And I don't remember exactly 

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what he said, but he told me and
I thought, well this dis ain't 

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going to be right for you. 
And he goes well what are the 

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numbers? 
And I showed him and he goes 

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yeah, that's what I want. 
I was like, you probably want 

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something more like this other 
one. 

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And it was a slower disk and he 
just would not be just like no. 

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And he just kind of stopped 
listening to me and moved over 

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to the high speed drivers. 
And I thought I, I get it, but 

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it's, it's, and I hate to use 
the word ignorance, but it is 

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kind of ignorance. 
They're, they don't understand. 

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They just think that they got to
have that high speed driver. 

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And you know, it's not like I 
don't think you need to 

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understand the, the numbers as a
science, but you, you just 

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can't. 
It's the same sentiment you say,

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I wanted to just say, dude, just
throw it real quick. 

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I, I promise it's going to be 
much better for you for what 

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you're looking for. 
So. 

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It's stuff like, do you give 
people what they want or what 

448
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,760
they need? 
Right. 

449
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160
Right. 
I had, I've had issues with this

450
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,160
for years. 
One of my first jobs I worked 

451
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,600
retail at like OfficeMax and we 
sold these huge printers, right?

452
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,200
Or well, we sold a bunch of 
different printers and had a guy

453
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,280
come in and he's looking at the 
most expensive humongous 

454
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,880
multifunction 4 in one. 
It's like 400 bucks and he's 

455
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,640
kind of checking it out. 
And I walk over. 

456
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,000
I'm like, hey man, how's it 
going? 

457
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,200
What are you looking for? 
How can I help? 

458
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,960
And he explains that he wants 
something portable. 

459
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800
He only needs to print in black 
and white and he wants to put it

460
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,480
in his trunk. 
He's going to hook it up to his 

461
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,440
car and print stuff while he's 
out on the road. 

462
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,840
I'm like, sweet, you do not need
that gigantic printer. 

463
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,960
You need this little teeny tiny 
$180 portable black and white 

464
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,000
printer. 
And my managers like guy was 

465
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,520
going to buy the $400.00 one. 
All right, what are you doing, 

466
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,480
man? 
Like what? 

467
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,240
He doesn't need it. 
He doesn't need it. 

468
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,560
So there's a lot of that that 
comes from, you know, I just 

469
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,920
don't like, I don't want that 
guy's going to come back and 

470
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,440
he's going to be pissed. 
Like, why'd you tell me this 

471
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,360
giant thing? 
I can't even fit it in my trunk.

472
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,920
It's too tall. 
Like that would suck. 

473
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,520
I don't want that for anybody. 
Yeah, it's there's so many 

474
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,440
different rabbit holes. 
I mean, I remember people would 

475
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,240
say that and I I guess I don't 
understand the tech. 

476
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,800
I don't understand it enough, 
but people would say that West 

477
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800
Side discs numbers were 
terrible. 

478
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,840
They they aren't right. 
And I'm like, not right for who?

479
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,120
For you. 
I don't. 

480
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,240
So my thing is. 
Tell those people, get in the 

481
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,360
comments. 
Let's talk about that. 

482
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Yeah, I just, I never understood
that people were saying, well, 

483
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,040
you know, maybe because West 
Side's in Finland, the 

484
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600
elevation's different and the 
and the, you know, things are 

485
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
different over there that I'm 
like, you know, that's not and 

486
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:50,840
then even sea. 
Level sea level man. 

487
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,680
And then even the understanding 
of plastics, you know, I, I was 

488
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,880
watching your, the, your episode
where you did a breakdown of a 

489
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,320
lot of different brands and kind
of the, the, you know, the House

490
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,560
of discs and the different 
brands. 

491
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,160
And then Gateway and the 
different by the way, I didn't 

492
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,800
know Gateway had that many 
different brands. 

493
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,280
I knew they had a lot, but I 
didn't know all those. 

494
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,160
So I learned a lot. 
So thank you for that video. 

495
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Yeah, sure. 
But but even I've seen on other 

496
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,120
podcasts, I think it was the 
Funsie podcast where they went 

497
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:20,720
over some survey about plastics 
and people were actually saying 

498
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,080
picking like West Side disc 
plastic is better than Latitude 

499
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,400
64 plastic. 
Within those brands. 

500
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,280
They are the same. 
But it's it's a matter of of I 

501
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,920
don't want to call it loyalty, 
but a matter of perception that,

502
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,040
you know, the people don't 
understand. 

503
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,760
They they feel that they're 
like, well, this is great 

504
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,000
plastic. 
I'm going to rate this higher 

505
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,960
than Latitudes plastic. 
It's the same. 

506
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,800
It's the same plastic. 
You know, like in this day and 

507
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,440
age with with misinformation and
social media and all this, like,

508
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,920
I think we see it even more as 
saying that we used to say in 

509
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,360
customer service stuff at Apple,
which is perception is reality. 

510
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,960
Like people will believe what 
they want to believe. 

511
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,080
So if they perceive it's better,
I guess it's better. 

512
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,240
Yeah. 
So my biggest thing to I guess 

513
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,640
combat that or at least to help 
people get understanding is kind

514
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,480
of what you're doing is put more
information out there so people 

515
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,840
will learn more. 
My approach is very much the 

516
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,480
just I'm the casual guy that 
just, I'm not that too much into

517
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,000
the technical, into the weeds of
it. 

518
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,200
I just like going out and 
throwing, have a good time 

519
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,440
having fun here at work. 
And so that's kind of the 

520
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,080
approach I take. 
Yeah. 

521
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480
So what, what, what are kind of 
your plans for this? 

522
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,720
How far do you want to take it? 
I'm assuming you want to take it

523
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,680
as far as people will let it go.
But like what's kind of looking 

524
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,800
ahead what, what would you like 
to see as far as 6 sided and 

525
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,440
your business? 
It's a good question. 

526
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,640
I mean everything we've talked 
about so far has been revolving 

527
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,440
around our YouTube channel, but 
we are also an online store. 

528
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520
We're a traveling pop up shop. 
We go to a lot of tournaments. 

529
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,960
We do a lot of like amateur 
payout stuff around Central 

530
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,120
Ohio, work with a couple 
different tournament directors. 

531
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,040
We currently sponsor the club in
Columbus and we handle payouts 

532
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,800
for them. 
So that's an important part of 

533
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,280
our business as well. 
You know, where like where do we

534
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,920
see ourselves going? 
I think there's a couple 

535
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,520
different things that we have 
priorities about. 

536
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,640
Our YouTube channel just started
out as like, let's make a video,

537
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,520
let's make a couple videos, 
let's see how it goes. 

538
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,480
I was still working full time at
the time and then one of those 

539
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,440
videos just blew up and and then
I was like, oh sweet, like we 

540
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680
could really do this. 
Anyways, I got to go back to 

541
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,560
work and like nothing happened 
with it for a while. 

542
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,400
Now it's really just about 
continuing the series that we 

543
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,800
do. 
We're always trying to look for 

544
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,040
new ideas. 
We've experimented with a lot of

545
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,760
different stuff with our podcast
at the start of the year, it was

546
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,280
a totally different setup. 
We had like a almost like a late

547
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080
night set looking sort of deal 
in here with a couch and 

548
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,080
everything. 
Those pieces of furniture still 

549
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,560
exist, they're just not here. 
But so I think there's still 

550
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,640
more to explore with the stuff 
that we do. 

551
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,600
There's still tons of brands 
that I've never thrown. 

552
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Luckily, there's still new stuff
popping up all the time. 

553
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,520
Hopefully that continues, 
although I think the market as a

554
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,600
whole seems a little bit, let's 
say like back to normal pre 

555
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,960
COVID steady, you know, modest 
growth versus explosive insane, 

556
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,200
crazy growth. 
One of the things like, I would 

557
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:36,040
say selfishly for me, what I'm 
most excited about isn't 

558
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,880
something that is going to be as
as like wide-ranging and 

559
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,680
accessible as our YouTube 
channel. 

560
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,720
But we've been shopping for 
property and we want a piece of 

561
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,560
land that we can live on with a 
course and a shop. 

562
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,800
And we want our our friends and 
our local community and anyone 

563
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,880
traveling through when our 
course or our shop is open to be

564
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,560
able to come in, play disc golf,
shop disc golf, talk disc golf, 

565
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,720
watch disc golf, whatever and 
just enjoy it together. 

566
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,400
Like that's definitely one thing
we're we're excited about. 

567
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,080
We've looked at a couple 
properties recently. 

568
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120
We made an offer on one that 
doesn't look like it's going to 

569
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,560
happen, but I think that's one 
side of it. 

570
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:24,040
You know, this kind of goes back
to why, why I left my cushy 

571
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,440
corporate job with benefits and 
do this now is that I, I love 

572
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,520
it. 
I love doing this. 

573
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,840
I love learning about disks. 
I, I don't, I don't get to play 

574
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,400
as much as I used to, but I I 
still love learning about them, 

575
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,400
finding all the little 
differences and quirks and 

576
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,960
things about them. 
And like nerding out, I think 

577
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,160
you mentioned earlier is like a 
great way to, to explain it 

578
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,760
because, you know, all the, all 
the people that were at the 

579
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Expos that we went to disc East 
and disc S like, yeah, I was 

580
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,040
excited to talk to Anthony 
Barella or Gannon Burr or, you 

581
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,280
know, anybody else that was 
there. 

582
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,240
Ken Climo was at the Expo. 
You know, I was checking out all

583
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,560
these different discs The, the 
moment that got me the most, 

584
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800
like surprisingly, and I didn't 
even realize it until it 

585
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,560
happened. 
The thing that got me the most 

586
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,840
excited was when Chad Richardson
from MVP walked by my booth and 

587
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,360
knew who I was and was like, yo,
I've seen your videos. 

588
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,200
I was like, like another, 
another like elite disc nerd 

589
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,400
knows that I'm a disc nerd too. 
And like, that's, that's 

590
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,320
awesome. 
You know, that's just like so 

591
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,120
hyped about that. 
So yeah, I mean, where are we 

592
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
going? 
I'm not like the most business 

593
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,240
savvy person. 
I don't make all the best 

594
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,600
decisions to make as much money 
as we possibly could. 

595
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Thankfully we don't have to. 
My wife has a good job. 

596
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,800
That's why she's not home right 
now because she's at a 

597
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,800
conference in Philadelphia. 
But, you know, we we got the 

598
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,600
trade rolls and I took a lot of 
pressure off of what I could do 

599
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,200
with six sided discs and what I 
wanted to work on and learn 

600
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120
about and stuff like that. 
But I think there is like a 

601
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,200
little bit of pressure for it to
be more than just a hobby, more 

602
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,640
than just like a side hustle or 
something like that. 

603
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,560
And not to say that we aren't 
like, you know, outside of 

604
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,200
working on this week's video and
talking to you, I had eight bins

605
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,600
of discs to get an inventory 
this week for a tournament 

606
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,880
that's coming up next week. 
So, you know, we're still very 

607
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,560
much working all the time as the
business. 

608
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,320
And that works really well with 
the YouTube channel because 

609
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
we're, we buy discs for the 
channel, we make a video with 

610
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,040
them and then, well, we got to 
do something with them. 

611
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,400
So we sell them on our website 
or at at tournaments we go to 

612
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,160
next. 
So. 

613
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Very interesting, tell me what 
are your thoughts on this is 

614
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,120
kind of jumping into a whole 
nother subject but it just 

615
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960
popped my head. 
I watched the video this morning

616
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
where it was just casually 
looking through YouTube to see 

617
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,400
what pop ups pops up on my feed 
and it was an AI character using

618
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,800
an AI voice and using obvious 
AIB roll and some real B roll. 

619
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,680
But you could tell that AI 
probably put it in there based 

620
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,680
on the script teaching me how to
better use AI. 

621
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:16,120
So AI was teaching me how to use
AI and I mean, I know I've 

622
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,520
looked into it. 
I I just don't like not knowing 

623
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,200
about things. 
I like to at least learn about 

624
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,760
them so that I'm not caught off 
guard. 

625
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,360
What are your thoughts on as far
as disc golf content? 

626
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,840
And AII know that infinite discs
put out some AI stuff and I 

627
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640
thought it was when I first saw,
I thought this is a little 

628
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040
risky, but it was clever. 
I thought it was clever the the 

629
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,280
use of it. 
But what are your thoughts on AI

630
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:45,160
and disc golf content creation? 
So I've always mainly just to 

631
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,920
keep our channel, you know, 
accessible to the greatest 

632
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240
audience. 
We don't swear. 

633
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,920
We try to keep it family 
friendly. 

634
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,520
And my genuine honest feelings 
about AI can't be summarized in 

635
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,680
a family friendly way. 
So I'll just tone them down to 

636
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:09,120
say that I think AI is like, on 
the one hand, we can't avoid it 

637
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,639
at this point. 
Like their companies are 

638
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:13,960
embracing it. 
They're selling everything with 

639
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,000
AI. 
It's got to have AI, whatever. 

640
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,360
But I remember TV's before smart
TV's and they were great. 

641
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Smart TV's are garbage. 
Like my, why does my TV have to 

642
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,440
update? 
Why does it have to do that? 

643
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,960
I never used that function. 
I don't need it. 

644
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,159
I turn it on to watch something 
on my Apple TV and turn on my 

645
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,440
PlayStation and my TV's like one
SEC, I got to update. 

646
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,760
No, you don't. 
No, you don't. 

647
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,440
So in the, in the same way, I 
think a lot of companies feel 

648
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,760
like there's this pressure that 
they have to utilize some new 

649
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,360
technology, they have to make 
their devices smarter. 

650
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,480
You know, people are now like 
paying more money for old dumb 

651
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360
dryers just so that they don't 
have to hook up the Wi-Fi or 

652
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,760
whatever. 
So I I feel the same way. 

653
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Like AI has its uses and I want 
it to make parts of my life 

654
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,400
better that are annoying and 
difficult. 

655
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,560
Like, you know, I want AI that 
can scan the stuff in my fridge 

656
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,760
and be like, yo, this is the 
stuff you need to buy this week 

657
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,840
because I don't want to take the
time to do that. 

658
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,080
That would be useful. 
I'd like it to know how many, 

659
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000
how many of my pairs of 
underwear have holes in them. 

660
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,280
You should order another package
or whatever. 

661
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,600
Great. 
Like those sorts of things would

662
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,520
be very helpful. 
I don't need it to think for me.

663
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:40,920
I don't need it to be creative. 
I, I left my, my job where AI 

664
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,840
could, you know, do a lot of 
those tasks so that I could be 

665
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,360
creative and, and I find being 
creative very fulfilling. 

666
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:58,080
The idea of asking an AI to be 
creative for me, like no way, no

667
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,200
way. 
So I I feel like some people use

668
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,320
it as a crutch. 
They lean on it too heavily and 

669
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640
pretty soon if you take the 
crutch away, they're still 

670
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,880
limping and they don't really 
know how to walk without it. 

671
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,520
So I don't like AII don't want 
anything to do with it. 

672
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,440
I asked it. 
I remember, you know, I messed 

673
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,880
with it once and was like, tell 
me everything you know about 

674
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,520
disc golf. 
It didn't know. 

675
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,160
Shit. 
So. 

676
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,280
Yeah, I hear you. 
Yeah, yeah. 

677
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,320
I have a feeling that the AI is 
being pushed so hard that people

678
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,320
are going to get sick of it. 
And so I'm leaning heavy on I'm 

679
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,760
leaning heavy on still remaining
authentic and transparent 

680
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,360
because I think that is going to
be like a welcome reprieve from 

681
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,320
all the polishedness and perfect
perfectness of, of AI for sure. 

682
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,520
Well, I will say. 
If anybody wants to know my very

683
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,080
honest feelings about AI, we 
will be at 4 Disc Golf Pro Tour 

684
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,360
events this season and you can 
come to our booth and ask me how

685
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,720
how I really feel about it and 
I'll tell you. 

686
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,280
Your unfiltered opinion, 
perfect. 

687
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
OK, so I got one more question 

688
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,840
to ask you, but something I've, 
I'm in the whole spirit of being

689
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560
transparent, bringing back the 
transparency here at Dynamic 

690
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Discs. 
I've added to the last couple of

691
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,520
interviews a segment where you, 
the guests ask a question. 

692
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,440
It could be disc golf related, 
it could be whatever. 

693
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,960
And no holds barred, I will give
you my thoughts on it and 

694
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,960
opinions on it and basically 
just kind of start a 

695
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,200
conversation on whatever you 
want to talk about. 

696
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,360
But before that, tell us real 
quick, you kind of alluded to 

697
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,520
some of the projects you have 
going on, but what's something, 

698
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,280
what's some projects that people
can look forward to coming up on

699
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,360
your YouTube channel? 
Yeah. 

700
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,760
So, I mean, real quick, I happen
to just, you know, conveniently 

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,000
drop a couple here on my desk. 
So I mentioned Destroyer. 

702
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,520
We're checking out their four 
molds that were available at the

703
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,960
time. 
They're a brand out of Estonia, 

704
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,000
so that's exciting. 
And then this is the video that 

705
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,960
I was editing before, before we 
got online here, which is 

706
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,960
partially about the new vessel 
and turbulence, but a larger 

707
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,240
conversation about thumb tracked
sort of surface technology 

708
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,640
innovations. 
You all have the Slammer among 

709
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,080
several other discs. 
You know they got the Berg 

710
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,840
that's a popular one or the lift
discs. 

711
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,000
Neon has like a full on reverse 
Dome. 

712
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Wow, that. 
There you go. 

713
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,320
I hadn't seen that one, that's 
crazy. 

714
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,320
Pretty funky. 
So I I love seeing new 

715
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,160
interesting design and this is I
think a space in disc golf that 

716
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,880
is actually still really pushing
the envelope and innovating the 

717
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,400
turbulence being the latest disc
in that in that sort of realm. 

718
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,640
So that's this week's video to 
be out by the time this 

719
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,920
interview's out. 
And then these stacks over here.

720
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,440
I don't know how many of these 
are visible, but like I said 

721
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,280
before, this is like another 
just kind of comparison like how

722
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,920
differently will 6 rhinos fly 
in, you know, very premium to 

723
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,080
very base plastic and everything
in between a neutral mid range, 

724
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,440
a neutral driver as well. 
This is kind of more, I don't 

725
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,640
know, experimental exploring. 
So these are the next three 

726
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,640
discs in our lineup. 
Anyways, outside of that, we are

727
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,120
going to D Glow, Ledgestone, 
Idlewild, and the Pro Tour 

728
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,320
Championship this year. 
It's the most Pro Tour events 

729
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,080
we've ever gone to and the 
farthest we've ever driven for 

730
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,160
some of them to set up shop. 
So we'll be at the Fly Marts 

731
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,280
Friday and Saturday night at 
Ledgestone, Saturday night at D 

732
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,720
Glow, all three days of 
Idlewild, and all four days of 

733
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:45,520
the Pro Tour Championship in 
Virginia. 

734
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Nice. 
So if. 

735
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,880
You want to come see us in 
person? 

736
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Come say hello. 
Nerd out on disc golf stuff with

737
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,800
us. 
I love it. 

738
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600
I'll be at Idlewild, so I'll get
the a chance to come over and 

739
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,320
and talk with you. 
So that's fantastic. 

740
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,320
Well, thank you for being on the
show. 

741
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,720
What, what question? 
What do you want to talk about? 

742
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,920
What's the topic burning on your
on your mind? 

743
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,520
Let's see. 
OK, So you weren't there at the 

744
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,800
time. 
I'll ask 2 questions you, I 

745
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,360
don't think you were there at 
the time, but did anybody else 

746
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,160
get to ride in Ricky's 
helicopter? 

747
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,480
And then because that was, that 
was a sweet video that was 

748
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,200
fantastic, great announcement, 
social media video. 

749
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:36,120
And then the second question is 
probably more how different is 

750
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:41,280
it now at Dynamic Disks? 
Because I believe from the time 

751
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,520
you left to now, the ownership 
structure has changed. 

752
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,240
You guys are properly integrated
with House of Discs. 

753
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,920
We've covered and talked about 
House of Discs and you know the,

754
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,000
I think inherent complexity of 
that kind of umbrella 

755
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,240
organization and having hands 
and so many different things. 

756
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,360
What's different now versus 
before? 

757
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,760
So as far as the helicopter, 
yeah, I wasn't here. 

758
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,200
I'd already left before the 
whole helicopter. 

759
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,560
But when I saw the video, I 
laughed because it had been 

760
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,360
talked about before I left. 
It started out as an idea where 

761
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,600
it was like Jeremy was like, 
wouldn't it be, wouldn't it be 

762
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,080
great? 
Like, man, Can you imagine if we

763
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,480
had a helicopter come in and and
brought like a player? 

764
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Like that would be their player 
announcement. 

765
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,880
And I remember thinking, Oh my 
God, Jeremy, that is a crazy 

766
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,440
idea. 
But Jeremy just has a way with 

767
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,600
making connections and getting 
things happen. 

768
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,880
So when I saw it, I was like, he
got his, he got his helicopter. 

769
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,680
I thought it was. 
I thought it was fantastic too. 

770
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,480
I thought it was well done. 
What's interesting is the 

771
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,240
backlash on it now because of 
everything that's gone down. 

772
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,960
But when you look at the 
comments on the video at the 

773
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,720
time, people thought it was 
amazing. 

774
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,560
They thought it was fantastic. 
It was awesome. 

775
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,920
It was great marketing. 
But now, Beth. 

776
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Didn't have a helicopter. 
Yeah, so looking it's, it's 

777
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,400
interesting how perspectives can
change. 

778
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,480
And maybe it's just the people 
become louder that want to point

779
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,560
fingers when things go wrong. 
But imagine if if the story was 

780
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,280
different and disc golf was 
still on a huge climb from the 

781
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,240
pandemic, I imagine people would
think that was the greatest 

782
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,120
decisions you've ever made. 
So that's a whole nother topic 

783
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,200
for another show, I guess. 
As far as your question to how 

784
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,880
things have changed, yeah, when 
I first came back to Dynamic 

785
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,760
Discs about a month and a half 
ago, I knew I wasn't coming back

786
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,400
to the same company. 
I was coming back to Dynamic 

787
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,920
Disk, but it's not the same 
company. 

788
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,040
They've been through a lot here 
as far as the different 

789
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,040
leaderships, some good, some 
bad, some choices that were made

790
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:51,800
were good, some were bad. 
And to me, the biggest 

791
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,840
difference in my, at my 
perspective is that everything 

792
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,240
is at a, it was getting at a 
bigger scale when I left, like 

793
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:05,040
we had just started, Amazon 
started really taking off, big 

794
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,440
box stores started really taking
off and disc off. 

795
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,920
When I left, it was like we were
trying to figure out how do we 

796
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,400
get more discs from Sweden to 
get here because we're just as 

797
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,800
soon as it when a container got 
here. 

798
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,120
When I say a container, I'm 
talking 506070, depending on the

799
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,800
mold 1000 discs on one container
it we would have those gone and 

800
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,400
like a month or two just gone. 
So that's when I left. 

801
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
So coming back that's not the 
case anymore. 

802
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Now we're like, how are we going
to get rid of these discs, all 

803
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,840
these discs? 
So so that's kind of been the, 

804
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,680
the changes that before I left 
it was like, how do we keep up 

805
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,040
with demand Now It's like how do
we make sure that we still have 

806
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,480
demand? 
Now the demand is there. 

807
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,480
I I'm with you and it feels like
things are sort of leveling out.

808
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,320
I still think disc golf is 
growing, it just I think some 

809
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,920
people are just so used to how 
it was growing. 

810
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,680
It's just not growing as fast. 
So that to me is the biggest 

811
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,040
thing. 
And then of course to answer the

812
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,840
question about House of Discs, 
that of course was the other big

813
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,080
thing was seeing the other 
brands in the warehouse. 

814
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,680
That was a little like it was 
different. 

815
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,760
I wasn't used to seeing, I was 
used to seeing Latitude, 

816
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Westside, Dynamic boxes and 
discs and to see the other 

817
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,080
brands here in the warehouse was
very different. 

818
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:30,200
But you know, we're approaching 
it as, I mean, just even get 

819
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,080
into it more. 
I remember when we said, OK, 

820
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,880
Latitude 64, we want to be your 
distributor in the US, so send 

821
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,480
us your discs. 
That whole thing was worked out.

822
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,880
And then I don't know who 
started the whole trilogy, but 

823
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,920
we got dubbed trilogy. 
And I'll be honest with you, I 

824
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,600
hated it. 
I hated because from a marketing

825
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,680
standpoint, it dilutes each of 
the brands, right? 

826
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,040
And people we'd even think, are 
they just going to be, why don't

827
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,920
you just quit calling it 
different names? 

828
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,760
Just call yourself Trilogy 
discs, right? 

829
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,560
And then we had team Trilogy and
it was like team Trilogy. 

830
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,120
People are going to think that's
a brand that's not a brand, but 

831
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,920
it was a fan base brand that 
became something amazing and 

832
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,240
awesome as far as team Trilogy. 
And it kind of feels like that's

833
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:19,400
happening now with House of 
Discs where people, I've heard 

834
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,000
about House of Discs, it was the
name was put out there for 

835
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,960
business reasons. 
I don't know the particulars 

836
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440
about that, but it was. 
And then people started 

837
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,880
thinking, oh, is oh, House of 
discs. 

838
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,760
Well, now we're going to buy a 
House of discs discs. 

839
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,800
No, you're not going to buy a 
House of Discs discs. 

840
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,680
You're still, you're still going
to buy Disc Mania discs. 

841
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,520
You're still going to buy 
Dynamic Discs discs, you're 

842
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,000
still going to buy Latitude 64 
discs. 

843
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,160
They just happen to be housed in
the same warehouse that now that

844
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:49,400
the employees here now just know
that we have some amazing brands

845
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,520
here under our House of discs. 
So it's not going to be a brand,

846
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,120
it's not going to be a company. 
It's just going to be an entity 

847
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,000
that, you know, we can kind of 
get behind and say we we have a 

848
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,280
lot to offer the disc golf 
community in all our different 

849
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,000
brands. 
And each brand will still 

850
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,240
maintain their own identity, 
their own people that want to 

851
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:13,720
throw their particular brands 
and be loyal to their brands. 

852
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,400
We just happen to have them all 
here in one warehouse and able 

853
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,160
to fulfill that for you if you 
want those brands. 

854
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,360
Yeah, I'll admit, our shelves 
have little magnetic labels for 

855
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:32,520
what brand is on that shelf. 
And I do have Trilogy tags, but 

856
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,960
I have all three logos on there.
I'm just saying all three logos 

857
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,840
around there. 
And I do separate the discs by 

858
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,160
brand within that rack. 
But yeah, Discmania separate, 

859
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Castoplast is separate. 
But I, I completely understand 

860
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,960
why people would, would 
associate stuff like that 

861
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,640
because it becomes harder to 
explain like, well, you know, 

862
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,680
well, I throw this and this and 
this and they're from different 

863
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,440
countries and different places, 
but they're, they're the same, 

864
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,360
but they're different, you know,
it's sort of like, well, I can, 

865
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,120
I can just batch them all 
together. 

866
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,680
It's quicker, it's easier to 
explain what I'm doing so. 

867
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,280
So, yeah, I, I bet, you know, I 
became, I embraced it and was 

868
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,200
like, OK, well, if this is the 
market's going to be the market 

869
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,840
and the market is Dick, what 
dictates what's going to work? 

870
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,640
And so instead of fighting it 
and, you know, at first I was 

871
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,920
like, I'm never going to use the
word the trilogy and any what I 

872
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,440
think, what I say or anything I 
type out or post that I put. 

873
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,680
But I embraced it and thought, 
you know what, this is what the 

874
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,480
people want. 
This is what they got. 

875
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,440
So yes, the Trilogy family of 
discs is the three discs, but I 

876
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,640
don't think you'll ever see us 
say, you know, this is the House

877
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,920
of Discs newest release or 
whatever this is. 

878
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,440
It's just going to be. 
House of Discs doesn't have like

879
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,120
a logo, doesn't have branding, 
does it? 

880
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:47,360
No, that's and that's on 
purpose. 

881
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,360
That's on purpose. 
That's just in my talks with 

882
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,800
different stores and different 
players. 

883
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
I just noticed that people would
say, you know, well, the House 

884
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,160
of discs brands are doing good. 
And so then I then I go 

885
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,520
particular well, how is dynamic 
just doing? 

886
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,720
How is these other brands doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

887
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,480
So that's the biggest thing is, 
is that figuring out how to make

888
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,600
all that work. 
And I mean, I, I think people 

889
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,760
know this, but we're not this 
isn't a new concept to disc golf

890
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,200
to have all brands under one big
entity, right? 

891
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
You know, you've got automotive 
companies that do it. 

892
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,600
You've got, you know, what do 
you got? 

893
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,080
Chocolate companies that do it. 
Oh, you see? 

894
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,480
The the maps of like who owns 
what from like General Mills and

895
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,360
yeah, Kellogg's and stuff like 
that. 

896
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,760
It's just a spider web of 
companies. 

897
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,560
It's crazy. 
Right. 

898
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,280
Yeah. 
So, so, yeah. 

899
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,040
So we're just trying to make 
that and trying to navigate that

900
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,320
within our family of of brands. 
So yeah, I would say and, and 

901
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,960
the biggest thing was no one was
here telling their story. 

902
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,600
They were allowing the story to 
be told with everything that you

903
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,040
saw. 
You know, I'm not going to deny 

904
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,080
it. 
Layoffs happened. 

905
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,240
Things happened. 
Did they happen the way they 

906
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,680
should have happened? 
No, I disagree with the way 

907
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,440
certain things happened. 
But I wasn't here. 

908
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,920
I wasn't here at the time, so I 
wasn't living it. 

909
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,400
So I can't really speak to it, 
but the people are still here 

910
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,920
that the people that are here 
and not saying that the people 

911
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,520
that left for whatever reasons 
didn't feel this, but all I can 

912
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,440
do is speak to what's here and 
now, which is there are people 

913
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,680
that still love disc golf, they 
still love their job, they love 

914
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,040
what they do. 
They're just really beat up. 

915
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,200
They're beat up over all the, 
frankly, some of the social 

916
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,000
media and some of the stuff was 
that was put out there so their 

917
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,000
story wasn't being told. 
The other side of the story, and

918
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,280
that's what I'm trying to do now
is be like, OK guys, we get it. 

919
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,080
That's out there, but there's 
another part of the story and 

920
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,600
we're going to move forward by 
telling that part of the story. 

921
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:48,600
So yeah. 
Yeah, it's great. 

922
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,360
I mean, take control of your own
narrative. 

923
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,560
You know, there's always, 
there's always haters on the 

924
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,520
Internet. 
You know, I read the comments. 

925
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,160
I choose which ones are valid 
and useful feedback and which 

926
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,240
ones are somebody having a bad 
day. 

927
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Yeah, yeah. 
Well, Ray, I really, again, I 

928
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,600
appreciate you being on the 
show. 

929
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,400
I learned a lot. 
I'm going to continue to learn a

930
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,000
lot because I'm a subscriber to 
your YouTube channel and I 

931
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,120
highly recommend people 
listening or watching that if 

932
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,440
they're not subscribed, if you 
want to learn more about and I 

933
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,440
say a nerd out. 
And it is there is an element to

934
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,640
that, but it is really all just 
great information. 

935
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,680
That is isn't just nerding out 
to nerding out. 

936
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,920
It's learning about the discs 
that you talk about. 

937
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,720
And it will help your game 
because maybe there's a disc you

938
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,760
haven't tried, because you have 
you haven't considered because 

939
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,200
you didn't like the numbers or 
your or you heard from your 

940
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,600
buddy the way it threw. 
Well, you got to get out and 

941
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,640
throw for yourself, get more 
information. 

942
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,920
And I believe your YouTube 
channel is one of those sources 

943
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,960
of great information that will 
help people figure out what what

944
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,160
discs they need. 
And yeah, so I appreciate that. 

945
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,880
Any last words? 
No, thank you so much for having

946
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,880
me. 
I really appreciate it. 

947
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,720
And I think all of us here in 
the content community appreciate

948
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:04,760
you being back as well. 
I appreciate it. 

949
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,520
All right, take care. 
Thank you.