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Copyright strike everybody. 
Welcome to this episode of the 

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disc golf fans man. 
I am Bobby Cool Daddy, slick 

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breeze and with me Eric chasing 
the chains. 

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We have to throwback old. 
School. 

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Logo and slogan thing. 
Yeah, we actually had a Chasing 

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the Chains Facebook page for a 
while. 

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We did, and a tour, and I think,
I, I think Stevo still kind of 

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uses it. 
Yeah, a little bit. 

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He uses Dirty Dozen more than 
anything now I think. 

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Yeah. 
And then we had that, the little

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chase and the chains guy. 
We tried to use that on a few 

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things. 
Didn't quite take off. 

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It did for me I guess. 
Still got the shirt after 20 

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years so. 
Pretty, pretty cool stuff. 

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Chase and the Chains. 
There's, I think there's a 

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YouTube channel, Chase the, I 
think it's just called Chase the

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Chains. 
Who should we send them? 

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A. 
Season assist. 

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Maybe I'm just promoting them 
now, I mean. 

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Check them out. 
Subscribe. 

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I can subscribe. 
Hit that bell to. 

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Chase the chains. 
So all right well, it's a dreary

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day here in Emporia. 
The last couple days have been 

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kind of weird. 
Yesterday it rained very hard 

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buckets. 
We had a big staff meeting and 

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we had to like talk loud 'cause 
it was coming down hard. 

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I. 
Had to listen hard. 

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You had to listen hard. 
I saw you. 

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Eric was doing this like he was 
trying to listen hard. 

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But and asking for subtitles. 
I need those captions. 

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Yeah, please. 
And then then by noon it was 

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nice and sunny it. 
Did the sun came out? 

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It became nice, actually. 
It was still just kind of wet 

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and gross, but I took the dogs 
out to the park through the 

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Frisbee for them nice last 
evening. 

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So yeah. 
What are? 

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I have been enjoying the cooler 
weather. 

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My wife doesn't like the cooler 
weather. 

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She likes it when it's a little 
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which I think is crazy. 
You like that better? 

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I don't like cold. 
I don't like to be cold. 

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I do not like to be cold. 
I would. 

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I will take now when I'm 
sleeping, I want to be cold yes 

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right, but if I'm if I'm going 
outside, I just there's just 

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something about being cold. 
I just do not like. 

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Yeah, I don't like being cold. 
I like a little little chill. 

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A little. 
Chill in there. 

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I like 70s. 
I think 70s to lower 80s are 

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like perfect. 
Yeah, last weekend I we went out

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to River Parks in Tulsa and they
have some nice, a nice lawn and 

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we literally just laid on the 
grass. 

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It felt so nice just to enjoy 
the weather. 

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Yeah. 
What did you do? 

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Did you lay on the grass? 
I did not. 

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I went to Tulsa, actually. 
Oh, that's right, I missed. 

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That Tulsa, Yeah, I was looking 
for you. 

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Never saw you. 
I know. 

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Not once. 
Told me he was going to be 

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there. 
Never showed up. 

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I was celebrating my 
granddaughter's one year 

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birthday. 
Well, you told me. 

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I didn't tell you I was going to
try to show up, but I didn't. 

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It was the collegiate event, the
first of its kind, The inaugural

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event down in Tulsa at 
technically is at Broken Arrow. 

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Is that where that is 
technically Hakey Creek? 

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Hakey Creek. 
I think I should know this, but 

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I believe it is technically. 
OK, it's Tulsa is what we'll 

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say. 
But yeah, there was, it was 66 

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players, I believe that ended up
coming out for it. 

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And we took 16 players from 
Emporia State, went down and 

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played pretty well. 
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Our MC2 guy lost in a playoff, 
Caden Stuckey lost in a playoff.

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Otherwise we would have got 
first in all the divisions that 

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we competed in. 
That's fantastic. 

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I know that somebody that I 
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because we used to sponsor him, 
but Carter Aaron's like he's 

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just really making a name for 
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He is. 
He's playing well. 

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He's playing exceptionally well.
His rating just went up to like 

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1029 or something crazy like 
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So yeah, he's doing a little bit
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bit of the tour thing. 
So he's, he's hitting, hitting 

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both ends of it, I guess. 
So would you say, do you know, 

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happen to know how many schools 
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I I want to say they said like 
12 unique universities or 

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something like. 
That yeah. 

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Was it just at at Hickey Creek? 
Yes, only Hickey. 

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Very cool. 
So the atmosphere was cool. 

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Kid young people, they're out. 
Yeah, it's all college. 

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Disc golf is awesome. 
It really is. 

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It's it's growing every single 
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It gets bigger and bigger and 
it's fun to watch these kids 

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play. 
Very cool. 

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Awesome. 
Well, we got a lot to talk about

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today. 
We got questions. 

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We got discs we want to talk 
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Some of the discs we've already 
talked about, but some we want 

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to make sure you know about. 
In fact, I'm looking down at 

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this Emac Truth and it's got a 
few scuffs on it and I'm 

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thinking what? 
And then I remembered we put out

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a video where it was me and 
Eric, six holes and Eric only 

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was throwing the Emac Truth. 
And this is of course the new 

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retooled with the really cool 
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And then I only threw the drift.
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Maybe we should run it back, 
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Oh oh, that would be 
interesting. 

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That would be. 
We should have done that for the

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whole video, like like hole one 
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switch anyway, maybe for a 
future video. 

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But anyway, it was really 
interesting to see how the drift

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plastic throws. 
Of course it floats in water, 

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which is fantastic, so never 
lose a disk again. 

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Is it floats in water or floats 
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It floats. 
It floats over water. 

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It literally hovers above. 
It doesn't even go it like 

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senses water and. 
You ever seen those magnetic 

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things where they that hovers 
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floats on water. 
Maybe that's the more technical 

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term. 
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But like to me, it's like in the
water still, like when the boat 

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is in the water, it's still 
floating. 

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Is it so if it's floating that 
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Does it 'cause it hasn't broke 
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Is this actually floating on top
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bit submerged? 
I don't. 

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Know what? 
Do you guys think That'll be a 

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debate? 
Yeah, we should ask. 

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Chat CGP chat, GTP chat. 
Chat. 

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GPT I can't even say it. 
Chat How do I say chat? 

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GPT Have you seen that Instagram
reel with a guy? 

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He walks in and he goes, hey 
buddy, how what you doing? 

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He goes. 
ChatGPT how am I doing? 

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He goes, dude, just tell me let 
you want to go get something to 

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eat. 
ChatGPT What do I want to eat? 

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I've not seen that. 
It's hilarious. 

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It's pretty funny. 
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Drift plastic. 
I would say some of the molds 

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were a little more flippier than
I thought, so I had to make some

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adjustments. 
But this I would say the most, 

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the one, I mean, they're all 
good, right? 

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But the one I was really 
impressed with the most is the 

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Sergeant. 
Really. 

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I thought you threw the evidence
extremely well. 

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The. 
Evidence was good, I think 

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because the Sergeant I didn't I 
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doing and is this this correct 
for you really throwing it very 

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much and I'm a. 
Hidden gem disk. 

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Yes it got like really good 
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I almost want to grab one and 
maybe put it in my bag to see 

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how it works and other plastics.
Thanks. 

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Anyway, those great coming out 
in what October, October Emac 

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Truth is already available for 
your store and you want to need 

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some new truth grab the emac 
truth this comes out what's. 

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In. 
About a week or so. 

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It does come out in about a week
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The Emac Truth These really nice
swirls. 

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Red swirl. 
Pink swirl. 

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Blue Swirl. 
September 18th is when it comes 

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out so. 
Also, if it happened, what was I

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saying? 
Oh, if you haven't watched the 

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the video, go out and check it 
on our. 

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YouTube This actually comes out 
this week, this Thursday. 

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This Thursday. 
Thursday, September 11th, which 

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is technically tomorrow when 
we're recording this, it is the 

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Marshall. 
I know last week we had a 

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question about the Marshall. 
If we're going to bring it back.

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We brought it back just for you,
and then we're going to 

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immediately take it away because
it is the last ride. 

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So it's got a little, you know, 
a little grave. 

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It is a Marshall hat. 
It's kind of cool stamp, but 

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ripi guess so pick up a 
Marshall. 

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It's a good little putter. 
I don't know if you've really 

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used it that much. 
It does have a microbead. 

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It's kind of like an emac Judge,
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to it. 
So it's gonna have a little bit 

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more stability. 
These are classic soft, so they 

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do have that little, little 
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So yeah, that's where we're at. 
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would it be? 
Straight to stable these would 

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be with the the classic soft so.
Straight to stable there. 

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You go to stable. 
All right, let's get to some 

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questions. 
Thank you guys for sending the 

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questions. 
Remember, go to 

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discgolfanswerman.com, send in 
your questions with them on the 

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air. 
And I actually have one that 

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someone posted on our video. 
I think it's great that you post

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comments on our video asking 
questions, but I would say go to

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the.com Disc golf, answer 
man.com, submit your questions. 

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We'll get you answers, but we'll
kind of go over that when I 

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posted on our Facebook group 
group too. 

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This one comes from Anthony 
Anthony Fonti. 

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Emac always talks about the 
trespass the. 

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Trespass. 
What is his favorite run and 

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why? 
Man, I don't know that I've ever

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really met a trespass I didn't 
like, but my all time favorite 

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run is going to have to be the 
2018. 

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I believe it was Tour series 
Lucid X. 

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They were moonshine. 
Some of them were moonshine, but

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they were, they were Lucid X. 
So it's the stiffer plastic 

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which gives them, you know, back
then, we haven't really done a 

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lot of Lucid X here recently, 
but Lucid X back in 2018 made 

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everything a touch more stable. 
So there's a little bit more 

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stability, a little bit more 
high speed stability with the 

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disc. 
So I could really trust it. 

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I had one of those in my disc 
for almost five years at one 

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point. 
They were very good until I lost

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it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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The trespass is a very popular 
mold. 

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We have it in several plastics. 
7. 

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No several. 
Well. 

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We have a 10 year anniversary. 
A that's not a plastic. 

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That's not a plastic. 
What plastic is it? 

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It was That's lucid ice. 
Oh, lucid ice. 

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OK, so lucid ice 10 year 
anniversary then? 

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The lucid, the prime, the lucid 
air, the moonshine, the supreme 

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trespass, and the did I say 
lucid X moon? 

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No, lucid X moonshine. 
Jeez, we have it a lot. 

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That's ice orbit. 
And then of course, fusion. 

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Fuzzy. 
And then it's been a Macy 

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Valdez. 
It's, it's in basically the 

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trespass I think has been in 
every single plastic type that 

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we've ever offered minus drift 
and it might be coming in drift 

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next year. 
So. 

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Oh that would be a spoiler way 
to see that. 

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Yeah, me too. 
So yeah, trespass have a great 

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disc and I would say my so I 
have a trespass in my I have a 

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huck lab, little mini huck lab. 
That's a good one too. 

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That's a Lucid sparkle. 
Yes, those are good ones. 

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Those are a little bit more 
stable too. 

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So those are those are fantastic
ones. 

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Too, I would say for right now 
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wind fighter for me, the Lucid 
trespass totally. 

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So all right, next one is from 
Joshua. 

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Will the will the trilogy team 
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media and Casplas or will they 
strictly be Latitude DD and 

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Westside? 
Wow. 

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No, next question. 
Next question, please. 

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No, I don't. 
I don't foresee that happening 

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ever honestly. 
There matter of fact. 

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I mean I don't know if we should
say this and if not you can cut 

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it out, but I wouldn't be 
surprised if in the future you 

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don't see dynamic players only 
throwing. 

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Dynamic. 
West side only throw on West 

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side latitude only throw on 
latitude. 

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This is pure speculation, of 
course. 

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This is not based on anything 
we've heard or talked. 

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About not at all. 
But I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be

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surprised to see that in the 
future 'cause they are kind of 

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like our own. 
Every brand is kind of its own 

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brand. 
It's kind of has its own, you 

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know, like, like the latitude is
kind of like the Craftsman, 

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right, 'cause they manufacture 
everything. 

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West Side's like the story, the 
niche kind of market, you know, 

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and then DD is more of their 
recruitment brand. 

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So I, I don't, I don't know that
you'll see that, but I, I, I, I 

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would think that you're going to
see that before you see trilogy 

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members throwing Castoplasty and
Discmania. 

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It is kind of it is interesting,
I mean to figure out and think 

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about because it does yeah. 
I mean when we came out with 

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the, you know, Latitude West 
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the distribution Center for it 
here. 

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It did make sense for us to 
because we were all growing 

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companies to kind of work 
together to say, hey, we've got 

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all kinds of different molds. 
But as our selection of molds 

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grows, you know you could in a 
sense only throw DD and be able 

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to play a successful round and. 
And oh totally, we have a full, 

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we have a full lineup. 
Yeah, a full lineup. 

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So, so, so a lot of people did 
feel natural that once they 

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became under the House of discs 
that then all of a sudden they 

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were like one big family, which 
we are, but we but as a brand we

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aren't. 
So it is kind of interesting. 

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But what I found interesting 
when I watched 6 sided discs was

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like I didn't realize that 
Gateway made a lot of other 

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manufacturers. 
Gateway does a lot, yes, yeah. 

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And of course, MVP does a lot. 
Also, you don't you? 

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You don't think of Gateway as 
like, I mean like player wise, 

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right? 
Then he'll sponsor all the 

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players, but so he's got the 
machine time. 

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So it makes sense for him to, 
you know, be able to produce 

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discs for whoever he's all 
producing discs for. 

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I don't know. 
I couldn't name the list right 

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now. 
I think I know the video you're 

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talking about. 
And I mean, MVP does a lot yeah,

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Innova does a lot, right? 
Disk craft does a handful. 

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So I. 
Don't know that. 

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And so I guess my point is like 
you, you don't see someone 

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going, well, how come the the 
the disk that gateway makes, how

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come the player can't throw all 
their disks if they were, if 

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they were sponsored by one of 
those manufacturers? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I think, I think a lot of those 

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though, I mean, I don't know if 
that's a good example, because I

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feel like if there are gateway 
sponsored players, they kind of 

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just have open bag. 
That's just more of an open bag 

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sponsorship, right? 
So maybe it's more like, can 

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MVP, can they throw streamline 
MVP? 

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And what is it Axiom? 
Axiom. 

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I believe so, but I don't know 
that they can throw mint discs 

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right? 
Which is manufactured by MVP and

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Disc Craft now. 
I believe so. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Disc craft, pick him up. 

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So does that mean Macbeth or 
whoever? 

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AB Yeah. 
AB can throw mint discs, yeah. 

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Or DGA. 
Can they still throw DGA stuff? 

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I don't know. 
Yeah, I don't know the answers 

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to all of those. 
Questions. 

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I mean, it's kind of like one of
those things the the disc golf 

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is a sport. 
It's just kind of making up 

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their own rules as far as that, 
Sure. 

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Right. 
I mean, these companies, their 

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own company, yeah, they kind of 
do things the way they want to 

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do them, I guess. 
It's just interesting. 

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It is very interesting. 
All right, let's talk a little 

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bit more about what you got 
going on because next week 

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you're going to be an AT, I've 
been calling it Nerpa. 

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Nerpa. 
NRPA. 

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What is NRPA? 
It is the National Recreation 

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and Park Association, so it's a 
big trade show where a lot of 

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city officials will be there. 
And Avery and I are going down 

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to set up a booth for, for disc 
golf and course design. 

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So, you know, we're going to be 
set up next to playgrounds or I,

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I can't think of anything else 
off the top of my head, but 

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there's all kinds of different 
companies that will go there and

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set up booths and, and it's 
basically trying to sell things 

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to parks and, and rec people. 
Do you think Leslie and Andy 

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will be there? 
Leslie Nope. 

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Yes, probably not, but I really 
hope Bron Swanson will be there.

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Bron Swanson, be awesome. 
That would be really cool, but 

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no, I, I've been to this event 
probably 456 times, something 

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like that in the, in the past. 
And it, it's a great place to go

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and not just create leads, but, 
you know, contacts as well, or 

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meet up with parks and recs 
departments that I've worked 

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with in the past and you know, 
those kind of things. 

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So yeah, NRPA, it's in Orlando, 
FL. 

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We'll be down there all next 
week. 

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Really looking forward to that, 
hopefully getting out and 

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playing some disc golf as well. 
September in Florida sounds 

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pretty nice. 
I was saying in a terrible 

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place. 
Orlando, FL doesn't sound fun at

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all. 
Probably nothing to do there. 

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No, Probably. 
Probably right? 

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Are you for sure going to get 
out and play some disc golf? 

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I mean, I'm with Avery, so 
probably. 

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Probably, yeah, I'm sure. 
Of course you'd want to hit up. 

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Well, I know he, he had asked me
if I had played Olympus. 

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Yeah, 'cause I don't know that 
he's been there or not. 

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And I know he likes to collect 
courses, so we might just either

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go there or play the oldest 
course in the state or the 

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number one course in the state, 
whatever that may be. 

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I know he likes to do those kind
of things. 

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So we'll have to figure that 
out. 

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We're going to have a little 
free time in the evenings and 

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like Monday or Sunday when we 
get in, aside from setting up 

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the booth. 
But yeah, I'm sure we'll play 

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some disc golf. 
That's awesome. 

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That'll be that should be fun. 
Yeah. 

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What was I going to say? 
Oh, hopefully the weather will 

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be nice and cooperate so we can 
get out. 

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Yes. 
All right. 

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Let's get back to the questions.
This one's from Brandon. 

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Is there any chance that that 
they us we bring back the 

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slammer in hard? 
I mean, he wants us to be like, 

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here's the disc and just throw 
it at him. 

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We're bringing it in hard. 
Throw it hard. 

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Anyway, classic hard. 
I'm sorry, he's talking about. 

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I don't. 
I don't know that it would be. 

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I know we're releasing it in 
classic blend here very soon. 

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I don't know about the hard 
though. 

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It's kind of tough. 
I honestly a lot of it will 

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depend on how how popular the 
the classic blend ones are. 

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You know that that's a great way
to judge on on an on a mold that

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we're kind of bringing back that
hasn't been out in a while. 

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This is the OG slammer as well, 
not the the Saki bomb one that a

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lot of people are are are maybe 
more familiar with. 

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This is this is a completely 
different mold, but it is a 

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pretty good mold. 
It's got the thumb track on the 

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top nice and over stable. 
It is considered a puttin 

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approach but people tend to lean
on the approach more than the 

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putt with it so I don't. 
I don't foresee it being in hard

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anytime soon unless like these 
blends just go crazy. 

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Can we talk about the one that's
come going to come out or is 

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that which is it's not in the 
release calendar the the the 

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stamp, the the. 
Oh yeah. 

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Yeah, totally. 
Yeah. 

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So we're coming out with a 
stamp. 

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Have I seen it? 
I think I just showed it to me. 

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I haven't seen it. 
It's called Slam Squatch, yes. 

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So that'll be on a slam. 
I'm looking forward to. 

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That I'm not sure when that 
comes out. 

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I think I've seen it on the like
the. 

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It's like coming up. 
It's like next week for 

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wholesale. 
Is it OK they don't have the 

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release calendar clay? 
It is. 

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It's. 
Right here, it's September 16th 

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for the B2B. 
Oh, OK. 

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Oh, no, no, no. 
No, no, no, probably 'cause they

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hadn't had pictures yet. 
But you can you can plan on 

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picking that up on October 2nd. 
So speaking, you said, you said 

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the word approach shot. 
Approach made. 

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Me think of a hot take that I 
put out on disc golf management.

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So I was working on some videos 
with some throws from Zach 

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Melton when I was at Idlewild 
and there was a particular 

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approach shot that I thought, 
man, he just put it right under 

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the basket. 
And I was like, when you do 

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that, it's like you don't even 
have to worry about putting. 

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If you if your approach shots 
puts it right under the basket, 

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then you're like not even 
worried about getting it in the 

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basket. 
So I was like, OK, hot take 

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practicing approach shots is 
more important than practicing 

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putting. 
And I said agree or disagree. 

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So in the comments put if you 
agree, if you agree or disagree.

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And I thought we could talk 
about some of the comments that 

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people put on disc golf answer 
Man Facebook group and then we 

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can kind of discuss it. 
So let's hear it. 

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So Carl says, I think it depends
on the person. 

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It's most important to practice 
whatever your weakest at. 

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With that being said, if you 
are, if your approach shot is 

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perfect, then putting wouldn't 
matter, right? 

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And that's kind of what I was 
saying. 

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So what are your thoughts on 
that? 

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I mean, when I coach, I always 
stress putting and approaching 

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is the most important aspect of 
the game. 

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You know, like getting off the 
tee is fine, but you know, you 

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have days where your drives are 
off, but your putt is on, you're

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still going to shoot well, but 
those days that your drives are 

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on, your putt is off, you're 
probably not going to shoot so 

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great. 
So I don't know, I'm, I'm, I'm 

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somewhat in agreement. 
I don't think it's 100% focus on

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approach and just, you know, who
cares about putting anymore 

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because there's different types 
of courses. 

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Now if you're playing a pitch 
and putt style, of course, that 

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kind of flies out the window for
you, right, Because then you 

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don't really have approaches. 
You know, there's there's more 

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approaches on these bigger 
courses that have par fours and 

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par fives unless it is short 
enough where you're treating the

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T shots like approaches. 
Mark Hill says. 

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I agree. 
I remember hearing Paige Pierce 

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saying a few years ago that she 
doesn't really practice C2 putts

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because she expects her approach
shots to be inside 20. 

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Yeah, I don't, I don't focus a 
lot of hard, hard work on circle

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2 putts when I'm teaching. 
I like to say hey just 

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concentrate on that circle one 
because circle 2 putts will 

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happen sure, but if you make 
every single circle 1 putt every

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single tournament you play your 
your scores are going to 

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improve. 
Yeah. 

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And then of course our old guy 
Dixon Jowers on the box. 

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It is only more important for a 
player that always botches The 

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upshot and makes every putt. 
For most people, they will have 

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way more opportunities to make 
practice range putts per round. 

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That shot that a shot from one, 
then a shot from 1:50 to 2:50. 

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OK, yeah, so interesting. 
So I wasn't, I wasn't like, I 

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mean, of course it's a hot take.
So I, I wanted to see what 

452
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,480
people our thoughts are on it. 
So got some good conversations. 

453
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,880
So if you're still want to kind 
of talk about it, talk about in 

454
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,640
the comments below and let's 
discuss it a little bit. 

455
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,360
Let's discuss. 
We'll have to have some more of 

456
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,040
these little hot takes to 
discuss. 

457
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,320
All right, hopping back into the
questions. 

458
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,960
Next one is from Jeremy. 
Jeremy asks Will we see a 

459
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:15,280
verdict in the Supreme Plastic? 
Probably not. 

460
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,400
Probably not. 
So if you don't know, the 

461
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,960
Supreme discs that we did come 
out with, there were new molds 

462
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,040
that had to be created for each 
one of those. 

463
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,760
And honestly, it, it didn't 
really take off. 

464
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,400
You know, I think they, I think 
it would have been more popular 

465
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,160
if we just came out with new 
molds, kind of like what 

466
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,200
Latitude has done, but I don't, 
I don't foresee us coming out 

467
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,440
with in in the near future, at 
least anything new in Supreme 

468
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,680
plastic. 
Now the discs that we do have, 

469
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,280
you may still see like the 
Supreme general, for instance, 

470
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,080
you'll you'll probably see that 
as a TFR mold or a custom run or

471
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,640
things like that. 
But I don't, I don't foresee any

472
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,360
new supreme in the future, at 
least at least the next year. 

473
00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,240
You know, 2026 you definitely 
will not see. 

474
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800
It and you never know. 
I mean, the only thing one of 

475
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,880
the what is it saying the only 
thing permanent is change is is 

476
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,960
Sharpie is sharpie. 
Yes, actually can't you use like

477
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,560
vinegar or something like that 
Anyway, so good stuff. 

478
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,080
Yeah. 
You never know what's going to 

479
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,440
happen. 
But that like Eric said 2026. 

480
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,360
All right. 
Next question is, oh, that's 

481
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,000
Jeremy already asked that Daniel
Brooke wants to know what brand 

482
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,040
shoes are most popular with pros
that don't have a shoe deal. 

483
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,920
In particular, what shoes are 
Silva wearing? 

484
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,720
And also, did Paul ditch Bessie?
I've watched Silva's. 

485
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,600
Wait, no, I'm thinking of Silas.
Never mind carry. 

486
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,400
On Carry on 2 completely. 
Different. 

487
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,080
I know, right? 
I know. 

488
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,480
I feel like an idiot. 
I have no idea what shoes Silva 

489
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,640
wears. 
I I, I have no idea. 

490
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,400
I have seen some speculation 
about the Paul stuff that he 

491
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,800
ditched to Bessie, but I. 
I just hear it from. 

492
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960
Him. 
No idea but I'll throw out 

493
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,680
there. 
I've worn both Vessies and idios

494
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,920
and spoiler Idios are better for
me. 

495
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,240
I I personally from my game the 
toe drag on them 'cause I am a 

496
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,680
toe dragger. 
I've had a pair of Vessies now 

497
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,880
for a few months and they're 
still holding up great. 

498
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,440
The waterproof in them is 
fantastic. 

499
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,120
They're comfortable, they're 
grippy. 

500
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,240
I haven't slipped. 
I shout out idio, they're 

501
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,880
fantastic. 
Yeah, I what I like about Idio 

502
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,920
and what I have been getting 
more into I've seen is the, the 

503
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,840
wider toe box, not necessarily 
wide shoes, but the wider toe 

504
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,040
box because you want your toes 
display. 

505
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,440
I'm learning that that's 
something that unfortunately, a 

506
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,280
lot of our modern shoes, they 
constrict your feet, their your 

507
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,400
toes and they squish them in a 
sense. 

508
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,880
And so it that's not good for 
the bones, it's not good for 

509
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,800
your feet and it's got not good 
for your stability. 

510
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,120
I mean, it's all the way up to, 
you know, all through your legs 

511
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,680
as far as that happening. 
And so this the the wider toe 

512
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,400
box. 
So I have some shoes from topo. 

513
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,320
They're my walking and running 
shoes, right? 

514
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,920
They're not disc golf shoes. 
So I have been trying to figure 

515
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,640
out some more trail style shoes,
more disc golf style style shoes

516
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,360
that have the wider toe box. 
I think that's very important. 

517
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:25,200
Obviously waterproofs are 
important and not slipping on. 

518
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,600
I had AI had a pair of Columbia 
shoes that I bought and nice. 

519
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,360
They're not necessarily marketed
as wide, wide toe box, but they 

520
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,720
have a wide toe box. 
But they are so good on the grip

521
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,960
and they're very comfortable. 
The only thing is they're not 

522
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520
waterproof. 
Yeah, your feet get wet and then

523
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,680
they just get gross. 
Yeah, it's just, it just kind of

524
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,960
ruins not, it doesn't ruin it, 
but it's it's something that's 

525
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,400
on your mind. 
It's like, man, my feet are. 

526
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,880
Wet. 
Anyway. 

527
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,560
That's when you need some 
sealskin. 

528
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Socks, I need to check out some 
videos. 

529
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,160
Yeah, you do. 
They're good. 

530
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,240
I did some other content, social
media content a while back when 

531
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,280
I was doing freelancing and 
they're it's a good company. 

532
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,760
Yeah. 
It's got a lot going on. 

533
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,680
Yeah, that's a good dude for 
sure. 

534
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,440
All right, let's let's see what 
other. 

535
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,160
Oh, we already talked. 
Oh, did we talk about treason 

536
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,080
already? 
We didn't talk about the. 

537
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,400
Treason yet. 
So the treason treason is been 

538
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,360
available for stores right now, 
correct? 

539
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:16,880
That is correct. 
So they're available if you're a

540
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,560
retail store and you're looking 
for the newest, latest, hottest 

541
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,000
thing, the dynamic disk treason.
We got first run fusions. 

542
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040
And yes, if you happen to 
notice, this is actually my 

543
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,320
disk. 
It has my name and my PDJ 

544
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,640
number. 
I can save your phone number. 

545
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,080
No, Yeah, here's my phone 
number. 

546
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,000
No. 
September 25th is when you can 

547
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,920
get that at dynamicdisks.com. 
It's been a great addition to 

548
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,240
the lineup. 
I feel like. 

549
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,840
I think it's been pretty 
popular. 

550
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,680
I know a lot of the you did a 
video, I know with some of the 

551
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,480
junior players and even some of 
the other players as well 

552
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,880
talking about it and how it 
flies for them. 

553
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,960
How does it fly for you? 
For me, it's here's the thing. 

554
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,160
So I bought these when they 
became available for employees 

555
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,240
to purchase them and I took them
out of the course. 

556
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,720
And I have a video coming out on
my my channel where I compare 

557
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,800
the heist, treason and trespass.
So I play around and I emphasize

558
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:09,880
throwing these and these are so 
what's weird is and it could be 

559
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,520
me, but like the yellow 1 is a 
little more just even a hair 

560
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,120
flippier, but it just gets that 
extra little glide to it, which 

561
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,680
I really love. 
So this one is kind of like, and

562
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,000
people keep saying like a beat 
in Trespass where I could see 

563
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,680
that if I had a like a biofusion
trespass that was really beat 

564
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,720
in, I could get it on a nice 
throw. 

565
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,600
I can get it to stand up and 
ride and ride the ride. 

566
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280
And so that's what I really love
about the the treason. 

567
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,680
It's definitely going to be a 
disc that I'm going to reach for

568
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,760
a lot when it comes to this is 
what I this, this is the the 

569
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,280
pitfall that I get into. 
I get so excited about all the 

570
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,320
new discs and I want to see what
they do for me that I have too 

571
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,440
many different molds. 
I need to pick one and go. 

572
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280
This is going to be my distance 
driver, right? 

573
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,680
And the treason is going to be 
that one so that I can get 

574
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,040
really used to it and know how 
it flies for me and use it. 

575
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,880
And then of course have the 
heist and the trespass depending

576
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,640
on the level of when that I'm 
fighting. 

577
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,320
Totally. 
Yep, that's smart. 

578
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,120
Yeah, that's that's a great way 
to learn a disc and how it 

579
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:08,920
flies. 
So. 

580
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,040
And then for the juniors, yeah, 
we have Ava, Virginia, Alex 

581
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,120
Kaden, and I would say her name 
wrong. 

582
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,160
Eden. 
Yeah, Eden. 

583
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,680
And so if you follow us on 
Instagram and on YouTube Shorts,

584
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,120
you're going to start seeing 
some throws from the treason of 

585
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,840
them that we can kind of get an 
idea if you want to grab this or

586
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,240
I really think you should. 
But yeah. 

587
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,600
And then I did a video with Toss
Up Disc Golf Tulsa content 

588
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960
creators in disc golf, and they 
threw it and they really liked. 

589
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,880
It I sent some of the protos out
to a handful of of content 

590
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,040
creators as well, and I know 
that they've been dropping some 

591
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,280
videos on their channels as 
well. 

592
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280
We had a guy on our last one of 
our videos, he had a question 

593
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,280
and he posted a comment. 
Now that's perfectly fine. 

594
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,880
I think it's great if you post a
comment and you will ask a 

595
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,320
question about your form. 
But I really, again, I highly 

596
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,320
suggest you go to 
discgolfanswerman.com and send 

597
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,320
the questions in there. 
But I went ahead and grabbed it 

598
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,600
and thought we could talk about 
it on here. 

599
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,120
Grab it. 
Yes. 

600
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,160
How do I practice rotating on my
heel after a drive? 

601
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,720
My brain doesn't want to 
transition from front to heel so

602
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,560
I end up getting stuck and 
twisting my knee. 

603
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080
I have now loose ligaments and 
pain. 

604
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:19,400
What advice do you have? 
Oh ow. 

605
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,000
Yeah. 
First off, if it, if you're 

606
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,000
serious about trying to do more 
of a a heel spin, the best way 

607
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,120
to do that is standstills is 
just work on standstill shots 

608
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,160
and getting that rotation down 
and then slowly transitioning it

609
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,240
into your full run up again. 
And when you do transition into 

610
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,400
that full run up, make sure you 
slow it down. 

611
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600
Make sure you're absolutely not 
just ripping through it 'cause 

612
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,640
that is a great way to hurt your
knee, your ligaments, your 

613
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,080
everything, your leg. 
However, slowing everything down

614
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,400
but starting with standstills is
going to be 100% the the best 

615
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,120
method for you. 
Oh, sorry, are you done? 

616
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,480
Yeah. 
What's going on over there? 

617
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,240
I was looking at the next 
question. 

618
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920
I know you're going to look up 
you. 

619
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,920
You pulled up Google so I 
thought maybe you were looking 

620
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,000
up ligaments or? 
Ligaments or no heel? 

621
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,640
Spins. 
You I was looking at the next 

622
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920
question and I wanted to look up
something I was going to talk 

623
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440
about of the next question, so I
apologize, sorry. 

624
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,040
Oh. 
That's OK. 

625
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,440
So, yes, so good advice. 
Thanks, Eric. 

626
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Next question, I did post this 
one on the Facebook page as well

627
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,720
and a couple people said the 
same thing. 

628
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,040
Stand still drills, practicing 
the heel pivot. 

629
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,800
Someone said change the mental 
thought from heel rotation to 

630
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400
lifting your toes. 
So there you go. 

631
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Heel toe. 
Heel, toe, there you go. 

632
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Like when you're walking in 
stilettos. 

633
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Yeah. 
All right. 

634
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,960
Last question for this episode 
is from can you put he says, 

635
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,840
have you noticed an uptick in 
the disc golf industry yet? 

636
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,080
I know it will never be like the
COVID boom, but has things 

637
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200
leveled off not only in sales 
but viewership? 

638
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,000
And let me wrap around the text 
and interest in disc golf. 

639
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,240
This is a good question for you 
just based on, you know, he asks

640
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,240
about views and, you know, sales
numbers. 

641
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680
I don't know, I don't think 
we'll, as you mentioned, Ken, 

642
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,360
we'll never be back to where 
COVID is. 

643
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400
I don't think. 
I mean, unless we have another 

644
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,640
global pandemic, you know, which
we don't really want, but. 

645
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Please no. 
But disc golf's still growing. 

646
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,160
Absolutely. 
There's no doubt in my mind 

647
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,800
about it. 
There's still courses being put 

648
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,680
in the ground. 
And if they're, if the sport 

649
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640
wasn't growing, we wouldn't be 
getting calls from these cities 

650
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,000
trying to to put a beginner 
friendly course in their town 

651
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,040
or, you know, revamp, upgrade, 
of course that they currently 

652
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,520
have those kind of things. 
But the social media side, yes, 

653
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
I now as Bobby mentioned 
yesterday, it's going to be a 

654
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,800
little skewed on our numbers 
because we basically did nothing

655
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,720
for however long. 
I felt a little bad, but I was 

656
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,200
like, that's kind of what 
happened. 

657
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, we were doing things, we

658
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,240
just weren't doing things 
consistent, right? 

659
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,520
That's and that's where that's 
what social media is. 

660
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,400
You have to be consistent with 
it. 

661
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,360
So. 
Yeah. 

662
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,120
So what he's referring to is the
trimester. 

663
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,600
We call them trimesters and we 
have a meeting where the all the

664
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400
staff and then a lot of 
different areas kind of upgrade,

665
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,120
upgrade update on what's been 
happening and some goals and. 

666
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Sometimes upgrade, yeah. 
Sometimes, but so and what I I 

667
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,400
had mentioned is that, you know,
one of the I was brought back to

668
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,000
kind of get back to the 
grassroots, the community first 

669
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,440
community focused marketing and 
social media. 

670
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,600
And so one of my objective was 
to start doing a lot more 

671
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,960
content. 
And so when I was looking at the

672
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,080
time I've been back compared to 
right before I came back the 

673
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,360
same time time period as far as 
I would think it was four 

674
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,760
months, is that there was a vast
improvement. 

675
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680
Like our comments were up 
64,000%. 

676
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,200
Our post as far as like how many
posts we made was up, I don't 

677
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,160
remember even 3000% or some 
crazy number. 

678
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,360
And I was like I felt bad. 
But in the meeting, like in 

679
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,600
front of everybody, he's like, I
don't know what y'all were doing

680
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,160
before we got here, but yeah, I 
know they were, they were 

681
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,360
posting stuff, but they had so 
many other things to. 

682
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,280
Yeah, didn't have a dedicated. 
Social media and then nowadays 

683
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,960
you that's, that's so important 
to have someone that can 

684
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,040
concentrate on social media. 
So that's their own focus. 

685
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,920
So yes, in in our world right 
now, things are great because 

686
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,840
they're getting back to where 
they used to be. 

687
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Not quite, but close. 
And we're being more active on 

688
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,560
social media, which is 
fantastic. 

689
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Disc golf as a whole. 
The sense I get when I talk to 

690
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,200
other people in the industry, 
other people in social media and

691
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
different, you know, just 
different facets of disc golf is

692
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,840
that it feels like we're kind of
like breaking even when you 

693
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,000
start comparing things as far 
as, and, and we're starting to 

694
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,880
see a, a tiny tick of an upward 
projectory, a trajectory, right?

695
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Like, yes, every time people say
we're, it's not back to COVID 

696
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560
numbers and there's, there's no 
way to even think that we're 

697
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,960
going to get back to those COVID
numbers, But there is a little 

698
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,640
bit of an uptick. 
Nothing to get all like we're 

699
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,840
back, baby, nothing like that, 
right? 

700
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,600
But it is positive, right? 
So there's still, there's still 

701
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
a lot of opportunity. 
I think the, the, the bad thing 

702
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,880
is that our perception is very 
skewed because of COVID because 

703
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,440
there was such a huge uptick in,
in interest and, and, and people

704
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,480
buying. 
I mean, I remember we've talked 

705
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
about it. 
There are times where, like, we 

706
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,800
couldn't even keep discs on the 
shelves. 

707
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,160
And it was like things that, 
like, were so stale and wouldn't

708
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,840
move all of a sudden was moving.
Sling. 

709
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Oh yeah. 
Remember the slings that we had 

710
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,240
forever? 
Nobody wanted them. 

711
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Yes, the West, West side, right,
West side, the ceilings, yeah, 

712
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,160
and. 
Now they're back. 

713
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,160
And now they're back. 
So, so yeah. 

714
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680
And, and I'm actually, I pulled 
up Google Trends and when I look

715
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,600
back five years, it goes back to
September 2020. 

716
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120
You can see where COVID kind of 
still had an effect where it was

717
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,680
high and it's gone down, gone 
down. 

718
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,240
But it's like if you look 
compared to 2024 to 2025, like I

719
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,000
said, there's kind of a 
steadiness and there's of course

720
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,000
UPS, downs, up, downs, peaks. 
And valleys. 

721
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,239
Peaks and valleys. 
And then of course, seasonally, 

722
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,159
obviously there's a there's a 
down tick during different 

723
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:21,400
seasons, but you can see as far 
as what people are searching for

724
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,040
and disc golf as a trend, it 
kind of bounces back up, not 

725
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,760
quite to the same levels, but 
it's going to take time. 

726
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Now, the reason before this 
question, I was, I said I was 

727
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,560
trying to look something up and 
wasn't paying attention is that 

728
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,040
I've been watching a YouTube 
channel called it's a guy named 

729
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Michael girdly. 
And what he does is he looks at 

730
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,760
businesses that have have failed
or going away or bankrupt and he

731
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,440
kind of studies them and analyze
them and talks about them. 

732
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Does. 
He talk about us. 

733
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,280
Yeah, no, he talks about brands 
like Starbucks. 

734
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,360
The latest one I watched was 
Barnes and Noble, CrossFit. 

735
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040
What are some other things, some
other big name brands that you 

736
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,160
would think of? 
They're like Toys-R-Us, 

737
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,440
different things like that. 
And yeah, the rise and fall, 

738
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,920
it's what he likes to call the, 
his videos, The Rise and Fall. 

739
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,440
I definitely, if you're into the
business side of things, it's 

740
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,000
very interesting. 
Anyway, my point is that it, 

741
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,720
what I found interesting is 
like, and so far in the probably

742
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,880
the last 10 videos that I've 
watched where you talked about 

743
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,160
the rise and fall, COVID is like
such a game changer. 

744
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,920
Yeah, it's literally, it's such 
has affected the landscape of 

745
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,840
business and everything. 
Yes. 

746
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,320
And I remember when it was 
happening, when Covad was 

747
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,760
happening, the pandemic, like 
toward the middle of it, people 

748
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,320
were saying, like business 
people were saying, you don't 

749
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,840
understand the effects. 
This is going to happen. 

750
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,520
It's going to be for years and 
years and years. 

751
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,400
I couldn't even fathom kind of 
what he meant. 

752
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,240
I could kind of guess. 
Oh, yeah, I get it. 

753
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,200
Yeah. 
It's going to affect us for a 

754
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,480
while. 
But I didn't realize to what 

755
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480
effect, to what degree. 
So what? 

756
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,240
Yeah, to what degree. 
So a lot of these stories, it 

757
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:56,080
happens where either COVID 
because they're a business that 

758
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,240
relies on people coming into 
their store. 

759
00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,440
Well, you couldn't do that, 
right? 

760
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,560
So they they didn't quite pivot 
like they should have. 

761
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,880
And then very similar story to 
ours where the disc golf where 

762
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,840
things were so great that we 
couldn't keep up. 

763
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600
And then we started ordering 
based off that and and started 

764
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,800
forecasting based off of that. 
And then things went sharply 

765
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,320
down, and then now we're stuck 
with a lot. 

766
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Of now we're stuck with. 
Slings again. 

767
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,680
So it's slings again, Yeah. 
So I would say is there hope for

768
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520
disc golf? 
I believe there is hope for disc

769
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840
golf. 
I think it just we still have 

770
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400
work to do. 
And, and what people really 

771
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,960
don't understand is we're still 
in our infancy, regardless of 

772
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,120
what you think, how long disc 
golf's been around. 

773
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,240
I mean, think about disc golf 
compared to other sports, like, 

774
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,800
like golf is the one example 
that everybody compares this to.

775
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,120
Look how long golf's been around
a couple more years. 

776
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,720
So we are, I mean, as much as I 
hate to say we are still in our 

777
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,680
infancy and we're still 
learning, still learning from 

778
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600
mistakes. 
And, and I think it's going to 

779
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,880
take doing new things, being 
innovative, you know, and, and 

780
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,880
getting out of certain trends 
that we're potentially in. 

781
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,840
And you know, taking it to that 
next level is what it's going to

782
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,600
take. 
And corporate sponsorship, in my

783
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,720
opinion, if we really want to 
take it to that next level, we 

784
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,640
can't just keep playing with 
recycled money. 

785
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,800
Yeah, gosh, I had a thought. 
Now I lost it. 

786
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,080
It's because I just dropped a. 
Bomb. 

787
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,120
A truth bomb? 
Truth bomb. 

788
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,600
You can pick these things up 
really soon, these truth bombs. 

789
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,800
How do I do that? 
How do I think of something and 

790
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,320
then completely? 
It must not have been a very 

791
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,080
good thought. 
It was it was something to do 

792
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,520
with the the industry coming 
back anyway, so provocative, so 

793
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,760
provocative. 
That's why it works or whatever 

794
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,560
he says. 
All right, that's enough. 

795
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,440
That's all we got. 
That's all the questions we have

796
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,280
for this episode. 
We appreciate you guys. 

797
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,240
Remember disc golf answer 
man.com send in those questions 

798
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,520
and we'll talk about them and 
discuss them. 

799
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,880
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thought. 

800
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,240
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We'll answer them see on the 

801
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,520
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