1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 My question is, when does the rightful thing happen? 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,880 We permanently reunite the trio of the disc golf ants, man. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Here's here's your sound bite for the day. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Yeah, I might come back. Hello, everybody. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Welcome to this episode of the Disc Golf Fans. 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,120 Man. I am Bobby, Cool Daddy, Slick 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,080 breeze, and I have with me Eric chasing the chains, McCabe. 8 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,400 And then guess what? That's right. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Robert McCall is in the. House. 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Hey everybody. A lot of you have said when I 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,440 when they made the announcement of me coming back, you're like, 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,600 when's McCall coming back? And so I heard he was coming 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,160 into town and I thought, why not get him on the show? 14 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:38,360 Figure it out. How are you? 15 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,000 Doing Mr. McCall. I'm doing well. 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Yeah, we are we're in town. We last year we came to Emporia 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,840 for like 4 or five weeks and just like did a little 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,560 staycation. We worked while we were here and 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,920 stuff but that was just a little too long for the whole family to 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,600 be here. So now we're here for we'll be 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,200 here this weekend and we'll leave early next week. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 So just a quick trip and we're going to play a pickleball 23 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:03,120 tournament while. We're here. 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Nice. I didn't tell you but when I 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,920 came back one week, so the place I'm staying at is a place that 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,560 gets Airbnb D or used to get Airbnb D and so the person Seth 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,160 had Airbnb D it for the unbound. Oh yeah, gravel. 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,320 Yeah, so I got an Airbnb while I was in here working for a week 29 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:23,000 and I looked through the guest book and guess what? 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 I saw an entry from the McCall. Oh, that's probably where we 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 stayed last year. Yes, we can discuss the ups and 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,000 downs of that place at some point. 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Maybe offline so we don't get the person that does not 100. 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,800 Percent, 100%. But yeah, I thought it was 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,480 pretty interesting. Cool. 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Well, yeah. So we have them on the show to 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,840 get to, to just a little bit of nostalgia, have a little bit of 38 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,280 fun. We have some questions we posted 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,520 on our disc golf answer me on Facebook. 40 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,080 And of course we have our regular questions. 41 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 So we're just gonna what? Just kinda we'll jump into it 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,480 with some questions and then we'll ask you some specific 43 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,880 questions on what's going on in your life. 44 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,800 So but to the Facebook group questions, Let's see, Adam asked 45 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,600 My question is when does the rightful thing happen? 46 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,680 We permanently reunite the trio of the disc golf answer Man, 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,039 can't wait for that banter. Can't wait to listen. 48 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:09,520 So gosh, we just jumped right into. 49 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,720 It right now, we're right into it. 50 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,480 I know. Here's here's your sound bite 51 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,800 for the day. Yeah, I might come back. 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Ohh, I'm just kidding. We're. 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Gonna. We're gonna. 54 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,840 And there is the band. We're gonna live. 55 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,760 We're gonna, we're gonna live. So just as background, if you 56 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,840 haven't listened in in quite a while, when we lived up in 57 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Kansas, truly we speak about our time in Emporia with like, we 58 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,760 were so happy to live here. And if Emporia was in Texas and 59 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,040 where our families could visit and we could visit them a little 60 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,280 bit easier. We say this all the time. 61 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,640 We would just live in Emporia for yeah, it was such a fun 62 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:50,120 place to be, but we got two kids, an almost 5 year old and a 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,800 19 month old. And so being close to family is 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,400 pretty important at this point. So we'll we'll still come back 65 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,000 regularly. We still have great friends up 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,920 here and and love to come and visit. 67 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:03,520 But long term, probably going to be in Texas for a bit. 68 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaking so, how is fatherhood? Fatherhood's pretty cool, man. 69 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,920 Yeah, but let's see, we had Owen while we lived in Kansas. 70 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,720 That was one of the driving factors for us to move back is 71 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,640 it was just like Shay's parents are in their 70s, mine are in 72 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,320 their late 60s. It's just hard to get them or to 73 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:25,600 ask them to drive. I don't know, 11 hours ish if 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,120 you don't stop. So that's what got us back to 75 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Texas. Since then, we've had Jocelyn, 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,960 our our daughter and they're, I mean, they're, they're awesome. 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,360 They're super fun, You know, I mean, some days they're like 78 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,200 throw fits and they're annoying, but they're kids and they're, 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,440 they're, they're a blast. So being a father is really 80 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,160 cool. I really do enjoy. 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,760 It sounds like they take after their dad quite a bit, so next 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,560 question comes from. Throw fits often maybe more so 83 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,680 than they do. Right, Yeah, you're, you're 84 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,520 probably like, hey, you want to see a fit? 85 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Watch this. Yeah. 86 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Yeah. You see what they see? 87 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,720 That's right. Make a. 88 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Competition out of it for sure. Oh, you, you can do that. 89 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,080 Yeah, watch this. I have seen parents do that 90 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,520 though, like if their kid is kicking and screaming, they will 91 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,000 also kick and scream louder just to just to assert dominance. 92 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,000 And I haven't employed that yet, but I'm thinking about. 93 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,960 I have. There was I saw something on 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Facebook or somewhere where the parent, the suggestion was if 95 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,360 your kid baby is crying, they were trying to teach them to 96 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,720 stay in bed. Yeah. 97 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,720 And not want to be in bed with mom and dad. 98 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,560 Yeah, they said to just cry. Cry also. 99 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,920 And the person that was posting the comments said that they, the 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,560 baby, would literally just kind of look at them and like what is 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,000 going on? Yeah, what is this? 102 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,040 So it confuses them to stay interesting. 103 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000 I need you to my games with kids are always the best way to go. 104 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,240 So it was a great way to raise them. 105 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:42,080 Yes. Smart. 106 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,920 It'll never come back in the future and punch you in the 107 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,560 butt. Totally fine. 108 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,600 I do need you to film it though. If you try it, so I will. 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,680 I got you. Kenny wants to know. 110 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,320 Robert, what was your favorite disc golf adventure you got to 111 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,280 do while in disc golf? I'll be honest, this is an easy 112 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,360 one for me. When we took a trip to Finland 113 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,760 and Sweden, yes, unbelievable trip. 114 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Still, still talk about it very fondly. 115 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Beautiful place to go, fun people that we were there with. 116 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Yeah, it was just an awesome trip. 117 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Didn't. Didn't we leave him at the 118 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,600 hamburger joint? Yes, well, I did get left and I. 119 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Had to find that. Client, I do appreciate you 120 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,400 bringing it up because I had forgotten about it, OK. 121 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,120 Does that change your? Answer. 122 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,520 I look on it less fondly. No, that was an awesome trip. 123 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,360 It was so much. Fun. 124 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,600 By far my favorite. No, no. 125 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaking of trauma, yes. Yeah, Let's see. 126 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,440 Let's see. OK, OK. 127 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Tom wants to know. And I I knew this was going to 128 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,120 come out. No, no, actually, I'm passed it 129 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,520 up. Where is it? 130 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,800 No. Ryan asks. 131 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Has the hair care routine changed now? 132 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Let people know. Well, you got sure we just got. 133 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,720 Well, we'll zoom in real quick. I'm the editor, so I will zoom 134 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,520 in. As you can see, the man has 135 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,960 majestic hair. Thank you. 136 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,440 It's always been his thing, his signature. 137 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:52,720 When he walks into a room, he puts his head tilted a little 138 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,360 bit forward to make sure that we notice. 139 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Yeah, the hair is good side, yeah. 140 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Here's the thing. So. 141 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,120 But tell us, has your hair routine changed at all? 142 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Yeah, out of necessity, yes, Is it? 143 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,280 Falling out yet? It's not it's this is wild. 144 00:06:10,280 --> 00:06:13,520 So that's right. I was going to say I'm I'm going 145 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,120 to age myself. I turn I turned 40 in September. 146 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,920 I have been concerned about losing my hair for quite some 147 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,600 time, but it has it stuck around and for what reason I don't 148 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,680 know, but I I'm grateful for it. I, I had gotten tired of just 149 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,520 doing like the, the fade, like the really tight fade because I 150 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 had to get it cut so often. And so I told Shay, I just want 151 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,240 to grow it out and let it ride for a little bit and see how 152 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,240 that looks. And so I did that for quite some 153 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,800 time. Interestingly, you still have to 154 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,320 like do stuffs to do stuffs. I didn't mean to say that like 155 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,720 that, but here we are to your hair when it's long for it to 156 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,000 still look reasonable. And I'm on video calls all day 157 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,520 every day. So you can't look like a slob. 158 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,000 And so my hair care routine has changed. 159 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,760 It's it's not as involved as it was before, but it's pretty 160 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,760 close. But this is you can't really 161 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:03,960 see. I just got a haircut a couple 162 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,880 weeks ago, but it was like pretty long before. 163 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Yeah, I imagine you're going to wake up one day and all of a 164 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,960 sudden you're going to notice the receding hair like it's 165 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,760 coming. Well, who is it? 166 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,280 How does it? Does your dad have a lot of 167 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,000 hair? But I think. 168 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,480 That dad is bald. This can be. 169 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Right, it's your grand. Yes, on the mom's. 170 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Dad's dad, Mom's dad, when he died was full head of hair. 171 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,760 Oh, good for you. Oh nice. 172 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Yeah, So I hope, I hope it sticks around. 173 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,360 We'll see. I have some Grays coming in 174 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,160 there. They're off to the side a little 175 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,000 bit, but they're coming. Well, you said something about 176 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,280 being on video all day. Do you mind telling us kind of 177 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:31,920 what you do? Yeah. 178 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,400 Yeah, the reason I'm on video all day every day is I work in 179 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,400 sales from home. I I work at a company that helps 180 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,960 businesses hire employees internationally. 181 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,200 So let's use this as an example. So, Eric, you make videos, Cool. 182 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,400 You want someone to edit those videos, You find the perfect 183 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,360 person, but they live in the UK. Oh, man. 184 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,440 OK, So you don't want to set up a business entity in the UK 185 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,840 that's very expensive, takes a lot of time. 186 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 You also don't want to pay for them to get a visa to come to 187 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,200 the US. So what we do is we have 188 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,880 international entities all over the place. 189 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,760 We hire employees on behalf of other companies so that they can 190 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,920 be hired compliantly in their country and then be connected to 191 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,160 any job in the world. So I'm in sales for that 192 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:16,840 company. I'm a. 193 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Sales in an office space. Yes, we just. 194 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:21,400 I'm a people. Person. 195 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,000 That's right. That's right. 196 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,840 That's exactly right. So I am my title is Sales 197 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Manager Americas and Yep, you. Also do cruises as well. 198 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,880 Sounds. Like a sales manager. 199 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,720 Americas. No, no, the Americas. 200 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,080 The Americas are the. Americas So I I sell it to 201 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,159 people directly and then have a team that I manage as well. 202 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Very cool. All right. 203 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,000 This is a fun job, I work from home and that's the best setup 204 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,160 for me right now all. Right, all right, Tom wants to 205 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,880 know. Ask him what is his main. 206 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,480 OK, I know what he's talking. About is he? 207 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,440 We're back on the hair. No, we're talking about we're 208 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,680 talking about pickleball. OK, cuz his next question is 209 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:03,320 what is his duper? Yeah, so let's, well, but just 210 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,040 in case, I mean, I'm sure people know, but like, so pickleball 211 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,920 became a big thing with you in Emporia while we were here. 212 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Yeah, while we're Emporia, we had a group of pickleball 213 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,600 people. I joined the group as well. 214 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Great pickleball group. Of course, as athletic as Robert 215 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,440 is, he became very, very good at pickleball. 216 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Swift of foot, Swift of foot. That's me. 217 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,440 So, yeah, so now that's kind of your thing. 218 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,080 You're actually here for a pickleball tournament. 219 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,440 So. So to his question, what is your 220 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,120 main? Yeah, So that's what that's the 221 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,720 terminology when they say like what paddle do you play with 222 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,880 most of the time is what what someone means. 223 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,280 They say what is your main? So mine is a the the company is 224 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,440 called carbon and the paddle is called true foam. 225 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,840 And it's the two shape. So it's kind of like a square 226 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,720 shape as opposed to an elongated one more hitting space. 227 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,000 I must hit the ball a ton for somebody who is playing at the 228 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,560 level that I am. I shouldn't miss hit it as much, 229 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,280 but I do. So I play with that shape and 230 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,160 I'm like the lowest level of sponsored player for Carbon, 231 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,000 like the lowest ambassador that there is. 232 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,280 But that means I get some stuff for cheap. 233 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Yeah, like that, a 10% discount. No OK 20% I I rarely I rarely 234 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,920 shop it. I don't remember but I'll get 235 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,480 like half off 2 paddles a year which is plenty for me. 236 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Nice. And then my duper. 237 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,640 So duper is pickleball's rating system. 238 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,360 It goes from 2O up to the very, very top. 239 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,200 Pros are like 7 O plus. Previously if you were over A5 240 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,400 O, you were considered a pro, but now that's changed over the 241 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,800 last few years. I got my duper up over 5 O and 242 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,720 won a couple of five O tournaments which was really 243 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,280 cool, but then switched battles and went on a bit of a losing 244 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,640 streak so I'm at 4 it's like. Switching manufacturers. 245 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:46,400 It is. It is. 246 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,560 Everybody takes a dip and then they figure it out. 247 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:49,840 Well, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. 248 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Wow. I have. 249 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,400 I've won a tournament since, but it didn't move me back up as 250 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,280 much. So I'm at a 474 duper right now. 251 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,640 So it's embarrassing. Does it's fine. 252 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Does the duper rating do the the people that are in pickleball, 253 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,920 do they argue about duper rating as much as disc golfers argue 254 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,200 about PDJ? Rating it is. 255 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,960 It's flawed. Equally. 256 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Well, it definitely is. Yeah, it definitely is. 257 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,040 But equally, if not more really. OK, yeah, there's there's some 258 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,880 other factors in deeper like one of them is reliability scale. 259 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,200 So like how many matches have you played? 260 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,320 So your your rating moves more or less depending on how much 261 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,240 you've played and how much the people who you've played against 262 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,800 have played. It's just a very interesting 263 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 algorithm. So anyway, you know how. 264 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,480 Many times I've played pickleball. 265 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,520 How many? Never. 266 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Dude, you should. You know why though? 267 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Why? Why? 268 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:39,520 It's just it's when I go into things, I go into things. 269 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,440 I'm see I'm on board. And like, I don't, I don't need 270 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,960 another hobby where I'm going to be dropping all this money on. 271 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,640 And like if like I'm just going out on the boat, I hey, you know 272 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,080 what I mean? Like I've got enough money 273 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,680 invested in fishing at this point that like, that's where 274 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:54,880 I'm staying. Yes, yeah. 275 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,440 And I have immense respect. I know I would love pickleball. 276 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,960 If I actually. Played it probably. 277 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,880 I'm telling you, dude. That's why I've never done it. 278 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,480 But I will, I'll say I'm, I'm on that boat as well. 279 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Like I really, I do one thing and I do that and and that's it. 280 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,040 So like, so I haven't played a lot of disc golf. 281 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,160 I haven't played golf since the last time I was in Emporia. 282 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 So yeah, it's, it's my one thing. 283 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,920 I this is my hobby. I do that. 284 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,520 I what's the plan is just kind of keep. 285 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Yeah, I just play for fun going on tour, not I'm so not even 286 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,080 close to being good enough. Like a buddy at church asked me 287 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,760 about that because, you know, he's not very good and so to him 288 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,360 I am very good. But there's level. 289 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,000 He's my best friend, right? He's he's my buddy. 290 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,440 He's who I. Play with all the time. 291 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Yeah, he's the reason you're duper so. 292 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,760 That's right, that's right. I know we have to put the score 293 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,480 in. We have to. 294 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,920 No, like I I played a team that went to like a challenger level 295 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,960 event, which is one step below the pro levels, and that 296 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,880 challenger team beat us pretty handily. 297 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,000 Then they go to the challenger event and they get beat pretty 298 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,920 handily. Then the teams that go to that 299 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,720 event go to like pro qualifiers for the top event and they get 300 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,760 beat pretty handily. So like there's real levels here 301 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,440 and I'm nowhere close to that. So I just I like to have fun. 302 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,400 Nice. Very cool. 303 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,160 Yeah. All right. 304 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Next one comes from Justin. I still have an owl stamped 305 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,200 judge that Mister McCall signed for me that I use on my practice 306 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,160 basket in the backyard. My kids asked who signed it. 307 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Only someone with more hair, a better beard, and probably a 308 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,280 super sweet choker necklace. My, my fashion preferences have 309 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,120 changed. I don't know. 310 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,040 I don't wear it at all. I have it at home. 311 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,320 Yeah. OK, yeah. 312 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,240 So he he asks what is one thing you are super proud of from the 313 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,240 last three years? It could be anything, something 314 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,360 that made you feel good, big or small. 315 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Cool. Appreciate that. 316 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,760 That's a really good question. Last three years, I mean the 317 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,280 easy 1 is that we had our daughter that that's that's the 318 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,240 easy one. Personally like work has gone 319 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,600 well. I've gotten a couple promotions 320 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,520 at work. That's cool. 321 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,720 And then in pickleball, I've won a couple of sorry, this is a 322 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,520 drooping again, my apologies. Won a couple of five O 323 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,120 tournaments. So yeah, I'd say that well, it's 324 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,680 been a good three years. Like we're we're enjoying 325 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:01,360 ourselves. Cool. 326 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Yeah. And Mr. Miles Seaborn himself. 327 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,720 Miles, This seems like a loaded question, but he asks he's ever 328 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,360 been to the Chek. Stop chek. 329 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,000 Stop chek. Stop. 330 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Yes. Yeah, it's multiple times. 331 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Yeah, but used to. I didn't know about it like a 332 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,680 long, long time ago. And I would pass by it going to 333 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,160 tournaments in Dallas. You don't miss. 334 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,680 I. Was just like a Texas thing like 335 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,320 you live in if. You go up 35. 336 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Yes, yeah, they're clashes is. What they are so. 337 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Good. They're so good. 338 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,040 If you go up 35, you stop at the check stop. 339 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,080 So I have sense. And Mika wants to know Doctor 340 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,080 Pepper still the best. Miko, great question. 341 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,800 I have ceased Doctor Pepper consumption. 342 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,480 No wonder the stock has gone down. 343 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,680 I know, I know personally have driven the to the demise of 344 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Doctor Pepper. No. 345 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,520 So I turned 39 in October. In September I told my wife like 346 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,520 I'm not in very good shape, it's time to get in shape. 347 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,080 So I really measured what I ate and was thoughtful about it and 348 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,680 worked out a ton and lost over the next four months. 349 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,680 Like probably 15 lbs or so. Nice And part of that was 350 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,360 drinking pretty much 0 soda. So now I'll have a like a 0 351 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,960 sugar soda every once in a while. 352 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,520 I, I, it makes me mad to even say that, but I just don't like 353 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,760 I'm like you. I'm all in If I have a doctor 354 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,440 Pepper, I will have 20 doctor Peppers over the next week. 355 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,200 So trying to be like relapse. Yeah, relapse. 356 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,520 Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I'm trying to be 357 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,520 disciplined so Doctor Pepper is still wonderful and I would love 358 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,160 it if I could drink it. It's just not in the cards for 359 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,360 me anymore. Good on you. 360 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Yeah, soda's not exactly the best thing for you, so no good. 361 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Good on you. Well, we didn't bring any 362 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,600 product, but like, let's see. I'm not even sure to be honest 363 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,680 with you. We're recording this on a 364 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Friday, June 13th. I'll probably work on it a 365 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,000 little bit and I'll probably go out mid week, next week or 366 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,800 Wednesday the 18th. Great. 367 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,680 What's something that they can look forward to that's coming 368 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,880 out just so they are aware? Something that you may not even 369 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,280 know about. OK. 370 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,840 We got some I don't even know if I want to talk about. 371 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,880 Him Why is it way out in the future? 372 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Though no it's not. It's like, it's like Mr. Breeze 373 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,480 is all I'm going. To say, OK, I know you know 374 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:09,800 about. Him. 375 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,920 Have you seen the stamp? It's good. 376 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,080 It's Mr. Breeze. I'm just. 377 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Saying buy like 50 of them. We're bringing back some scented 378 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,360 things. And we'll just, yeah. 379 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Mr. Breeze And that's where I'm leaving it. 380 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,560 OK? That's where I'm leaving it for 381 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,560 now so you can look. For Oh, I see. 382 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,360 When did when did that come out? The the stamp has been ordered. 383 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,040 They are being stamped early next week, so probably within 384 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,160 the next week. OK, probably within a few days 385 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,600 of this episode. OK, cool. 386 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,400 That'll be awesome. But we do have something coming 387 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,680 out that Thursday, right? Yeah, the right now I know we 388 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,240 have the orbit putters that are out, Warden, Emac, Judge and 389 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Judge. Those look super sweet. 390 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,640 So if you haven't picked those up, try try some of those or go 391 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,880 pick those up. Of course we have the heist 392 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,200 first run that's out on the I think we still have some of 393 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,240 those left and some of the stores have some of those left. 394 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,720 I actually took Eli my grandson out and he threw it a few times 395 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,520 that he bombed that disc. I posted that on the DD 396 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,760 Instagram. Of course he was a super 397 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,560 excited. So shout out to you Eli if 398 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,800 you're watching. So keep killing it. 399 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,720 I watched the video. He did. 400 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:15,000 He did mash. Yeah, he he did really well with 401 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,960 it. So all right, let's jump back 402 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,640 into questions while Eric's looking that up. 403 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,880 This one's from Paul Z OK, let's. 404 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,359 Do it. How do you feel about the push 405 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,400 to have one standardized basket for all Disc Golf Pro Tour 406 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 events? Wouldn't that put an additional 407 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,800 financial burden on courses that want to host such events? 408 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,680 I think yes, I think here's OK, so here's my thing and I've 409 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,840 thought about this different things as far as baskets and 410 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,720 different topics that people bring up is that a lot of these 411 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,440 things, though they me, they may seem to be a, a solution and 412 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,880 they may fix a problem. That's not, oh, it doesn't, it's 413 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,680 not as easy as you think to fix a standard, right? 414 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,600 This is one of those things. And this is yes, it would be a 415 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,320 financial program. What what if they did come out 416 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,840 and say, all right, only this one basket can be it. 417 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,160 Well, then you're going to you're going to make all these 418 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,760 other manufacturers mad. OK, cool. 419 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,160 What if PDJ says we're making the basket? 420 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,320 This is the basket you all have to use. 421 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Imagine all those courses. DGPT would have to be the ones 422 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,880 to do it, come out with their basket and then travel with how 423 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,000 many Because there's FPO pens, There's FPO pens. 424 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,760 You got to have like 2 sets because there's two trailers, 425 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,640 poor trailers that travel all that. 426 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,960 So look, we throw things at things and nothing's ever going 427 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,000 to catch everything, you know what I mean? 428 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,640 It's yeah. Yeah, in some ways it's kind of 429 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,600 like like different golf courses or like the different tennis 430 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,320 majors, right? They play on grass, they play on 431 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,440 clay, they play on hard court. Like playing on a different 432 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,720 basket requires a different type of putt. 433 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,120 So yeah, I mean, I yes, it would be awesome in an ideal world if 434 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:57,600 they were standardized, but we're so far down the line now 435 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,440 it's yeah, logistically it would be a nightmare. 436 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,080 They've been talking about and there's been testing and all 437 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,600 that, but like, I don't know. I don't know where they're at 438 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,360 with it and I don't know. I mean, it's a fairpoint, yes. 439 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:12,520 I mean, I I I'm not saying don't push to make things better. 440 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,320 I'm not saying just live with what we have like always 441 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,880 challenge and make things better, but just you just yeah, 442 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,200 sometimes I don't think when people say when people say let's 443 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,880 just have standardized basket. Well, it's really it's really 444 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 not that easy and I sure. So this is my, again, I'm not a 445 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,040 pro, never played a pro tournament, never will be a pro 446 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:32,160 it. But sometimes I often think that 447 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,280 these pros, not all of them, but sometimes they get upset when a 448 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,880 certain basket didn't catch their disc. 449 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,920 But the pros know that, like you, you kind of alluded to, 450 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,800 they know a certain basket you got to kind of hit to the right. 451 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,120 They know if it's elevated, they got to hit it a certain way. 452 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:47,800 Read in a different green. Right. 453 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,520 It's like, you know what basket you're on, You practice, 454 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,960 practice on it. How many times know how to putt 455 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,760 on that basket? I mean, there's some that catch 456 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,080 better than others. There's no doubt. 457 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Yeah, absolutely. That's obvious. 458 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,800 And every basket has fluky spits and stuff so. 459 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,560 Yeah, yeah. We throw things at things. 460 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,920 Yep. Sometimes it's not always a disc 461 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,000 or basket. Sometimes it's. 462 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,880 Sometimes we don't even matter. We. 463 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,120 Just throw our pens in our sport. 464 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Like. To me that's that's the easy 465 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,800 one. It's a standardized T pads. 466 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Yeah. All concrete, all turf, 467 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,080 whatever. Yeah, I got you. 468 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,680 All right, let's see. I think that one let's. 469 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Yeah, We didn't ask this one. This is from Everett. 470 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,920 I just bought a Fusion Vandal, took it to the soccer field and 471 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,200 compared it to my Valkyrie. The Valkyrie is more stable and 472 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,240 handled a breeze better. Patent pending. 473 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,760 No. Pending. 474 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,400 I'm going to. It's a verbal copyright. 475 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,640 Copyright that. Timestamp it. 476 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,240 But I think that's what I am going that might be a signature 477 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,520 on videos that I do that that might be just a breeze better 478 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,200 the vandal flies straighter is go still. 479 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,120 Time to edit that out, but still time. 480 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,320 Future Bobby. You wait. 481 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:04,520 I'm going to. You're. 482 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,320 Welcome. You're welcome. 483 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,840 Flies straighter and goes about the same distance with a 484 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,120 tailwind a little further farther. 485 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,160 Yes, it keeps. It's a keeper. 486 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,000 So what is the difference between a vandal and a thief? 487 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,640 Whoa, how did we jump to that? OK, dimensionally they look 488 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,520 almost the same. So Vandal and the thief. 489 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,240 I would I would probably say that the vandal to the thief is 490 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,400 no different than the vandal to your Valkyrie just the opposite 491 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,200 way, meaning the thief's going to be quite a bit more under 492 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840 stable than the vandal, right? OK, there you go. 493 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,560 I haven't thrown a thief in forever. 494 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Thief thief. I do love my vandals though. 495 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Mike wants to know I'm throwing fairway drivers with good 496 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,640 flight. It Lim it limited power and 497 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,960 distance and usually I only get 10 to 20 feet extra feet with 498 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,040 gosh this with distance drivers and more erratic flights. 499 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,480 I should stick with fairways until my form and power 500 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,120 improves, right? I, I think that's a really good 501 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:00,960 recommendation. Let me let me get this back up 502 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,480 here. So yeah, I think you're right. 503 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,560 More than likely it's a combination. 504 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000 It's it's either one of two things or a combination of both 505 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720 is that you're probably throwing the disk a bit nose up. 506 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,440 And when the disk is nose up and makes everything act more 507 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,560 stable. And so if you don't get the nose 508 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,040 down or at least neutral on a distance driver and makes it act 509 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,320 more stable because the speed acts like stability. 510 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,640 So there's one thing if, if it's two nose up, then that's going 511 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,520 to happen. But 2 is that you might not have 512 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,600 quite the arm speed for that. And so if that's the case, the 513 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,720 speed does act like stability. And so even if you do throw it 514 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760 nose down, if you're not throwing it hard, it's just 515 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,520 going to dump off to the left. So yeah, one thing to focus on, 516 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,680 I would say stick with your fairway driver, but two, work on 517 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200 getting that nose down so that you get kind of a more level 518 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,480 flight and you'll see more of a true flight of the disk for your 519 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,480 arm speeded with with that type of flight. 520 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,720 Totally, and get out to the field when you do. 521 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,160 That big time? Big time, Yeah. 522 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,120 Good stuff. All right, quick, quick. 523 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 This really isn't a question. This is more of your quest. 524 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,480 So we've got the product guy right over here. 525 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,680 Perfect. So Ryan wants to, he says I need 526 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,160 some moonshine air stilettos. Oh, there you go. 527 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,680 I will contact the product guy for Latitude 60. 528 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Four. There you go. 529 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,640 Good stuff all. Right. 530 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,840 I wouldn't be surprised if that 1 doesn't get requested a lot, 531 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,080 interestingly, you know, Really. Yeah. 532 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,960 No, no, Absolutely. Yeah. 533 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,880 It. Says yeah, no. 534 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240 Absolutely not. You can take the Flack for that 535 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,040 when I leave, but yeah, we'll take. 536 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,720 There's not really much of A need for that type of Frisbee, 537 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,720 so. Justin has a great question that 538 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,760 I'm sure a lot of people that watch the Disc Golf Pro Tour are 539 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,840 wondering and just in case you don't, if you're kind of new to 540 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,160 us, the disc golf fans man, or new to watching Disc Golf Pro 541 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,160 Tour, Robert has a lengthy career of doing commentary. 542 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Lengthy. It's an interesting choice, I 543 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,840 That's fine, but he. Talks in the disco. 544 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,480 Yeah, he. Talks very few events, but lots 545 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,880 of tours per event. So would you consider doing 546 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,960 commentary for the disc golf Pro Tour again for let's before you 547 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,480 answer that question, sure. Which was your which event was 548 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,120 your first one you did commentary on? 549 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,040 Do you remember? Oh yes? 550 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,720 Well. Most. 551 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,120 Most. That was the first you traveled 552 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,040 to. That was the first one that I 553 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,120 traveled to. I remember that. 554 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:20,200 We did GBO. Yep, I remember that too, where 555 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,200 I was in studio and Dixon was on the course. 556 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,280 Yes, when we were doing it on our own first year, that was my 557 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,920 first time ever doing commentary. 558 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,440 And yeah, I mean, it was like, it was a blast, but it was also 559 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,000 a challenge. I mean, it was our first time. 560 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,120 We were figuring out everything. The one after that I came to 561 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:42,200 Worlds in Emporia. I think it was the next year I 562 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,160 was, I had just come back from injury and was playing 563 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,520 absolutely terribly, which is kind of a theme for me. 564 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,120 Not the injury part, but just the playing terribly part as 565 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:53,200 you. Guys say I don't know how that's 566 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,160 a marker for you since it happens all the time later 567 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,360 that's. OK hey maybe this will help 568 00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:59,160 though. OK, OK. 569 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480 So anyway. OK, real quick, these these cues 570 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,560 he's talking about where it's falling down, he's speaking it 571 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,040 up. Sorry, audio, it's yeah, it's. 572 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,280 The microphone. The microphone, it's a makeshift 573 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,640 microphone stand. Sorry audio listeners, that you 574 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,040 don't get to experience me fidgeting with the microphone 575 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,720 so. I'm sorry. 576 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,040 OK, so so I came back and played worlds that year. 577 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,640 I played terribly and Dixon was doing commentary with Terry 578 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,480 Miller at the time. He was playing well enough that 579 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,960 he was playing in the afternoon. He had afternoon tea times in 580 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,920 the open division. If you play poorly, then you 581 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,880 have early morning tea times. And that was me. 582 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Very early morning tea times. So I was done and Dixon was 583 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,800 going to be on the course. And so I told Dixon and and 584 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,520 Terry. I'd never met Terry at that 585 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280 point, but I just said, hey, look, if you need someone to 586 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,400 just walk around and like back you up, say a few words and set 587 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,200 you up for whatever you need to, I'm happy to do it. 588 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,320 And so I met Terry that day. We we went out on the course 589 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,400 together. It went well. 590 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Did it. The next day. 591 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,240 I played terribly of course, again because why wouldn't I, 592 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,160 but then did it again the next day and then finished out that 593 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,840 Worlds and really enjoyed working with Terry and Johnny V 594 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,960 and their whole crew. And later that year, that was 595 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,640 when they disc golf pro tour like the first championship was, 596 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,360 and that's the one that they flew me out for. 597 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,160 That's right. It was it. 598 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,360 It was a smoke, Yeah. That's exactly right, I. 599 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,040 Do remember that. It was awesome. 600 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,680 Like that's that kind of kick started the whole thing and then 601 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,920 I did plenty of other events for them and did got to do Jomez at 602 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,960 the same time. Yeah, it was, it was a blast. 603 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,680 So that's that's the background. Would I ever do it again? 604 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,080 Sure. If if the pro tour called me 605 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,680 and, and schedules worked out, absolutely I would do it. 606 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,600 I am not as knowledgeable now as I was then about all of the 607 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,040 discs and all of the players, though. 608 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,120 We still watch a lot and we keep up with, with our friends on the 609 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:55,240 tour. But yeah, new releases wise and, 610 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,800 and all of that. I'm I'm a little bit out of the 611 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,920 loop. So if you just need somebody to 612 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,560 talk and fill space, well, I can do that. 613 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Yeah, I'm your guy. That's the dude. 614 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,240 That's the dude. All right, Steven. 615 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Steven has a lengthy question. He says. 616 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,760 Hey, Bobby and Eric. Hey. 617 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760 I recently played pickleball for the first time and had an 618 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,840 absolute blast. Naturally, just like I did when 619 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,560 I got into disc golf, I started diving into podcast and YouTube 620 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,160 content. I already knew. 621 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,200 Yeah, see people get, Oh yeah, what's your age up with it. 622 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080 I already knew. It seems to have experienced a 623 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,520 similar COVID era boom like disc golf did. 624 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,960 But unlike disc golf, pickleball's momentum has 625 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,200 slowed. It's actually accelerated or 626 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,200 hasn't slowed. It's actually accelerating the 627 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,560 prize purses sponsorship. So here's my question for you 628 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,200 both. What does disc golf need to do 629 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,160 to reignite its growth and attract the kind of major 630 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480 sponsorships and mainstream attention that pickleball is 631 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,120 enjoying right now? From your perspective, what are 632 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:53,520 the next big steps for disc golf, whether it's improved 633 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600 media coverage, more accessible courses, or better player 634 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,760 promotion to take things to the next level? 635 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,920 Would love to hear your thoughts. 636 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,480 Thanks for all you do for the disc golf community. 637 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600 It'll be interesting since he brought up pickleball, since 638 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 you're like heavily into pickleball and you're in the 639 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,920 know and your best friend has been Johns, I'm sure so. 640 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,880 Yeah. I'm sure you do. 641 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800 I'm sure you have it. We don't speed dial, we don't. 642 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840 So what are your thoughts, Eric? What do you think? 643 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,520 A global. Pandemic, I mean, that's what 644 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,760 really got us there. Another no, we don't want that 645 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,040 we don't want that, you know, logistics really it think about 646 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,680 a pickleball event, how easy, how much easier it is to film. 647 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,640 I mean you need what, 3 cameras Max, Max. 648 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,720 I mean, with disc golf, you need to do it right like golf does. 649 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,080 I mean, golf has hundreds of cameras on on property. 650 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920 I mean they have booms. They have it's it's insane. 651 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,440 The whole production is just insane. 652 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,200 And not to say that the DGPTS production or disc golf 653 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,440 network's production isn't impressive, but it is nothing 654 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,120 like what a what a true Professional Golf event is and, 655 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,520 and all of those things. So for me, it's, I don't know 656 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280 what the answer is for, for bringing in corporate, corporate 657 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,920 sponsorship and all that. We've had some of that, you 658 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,080 know, with what Johnsonville did, some sponsoring of the the 659 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,600 Nationals or the finale, whatever it was called. 660 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,640 There's been a handful, but I think it's, you see them come in 661 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,840 and then kind of go away. How do you get them to stay? 662 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,800 That's the the key, maybe finding the the perfect outdoor 663 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,360 a company that wants to help disc golfers that disc golfers 664 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,480 can relate to also, right? I mean it's. 665 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,960 It's not an easy answer, right? I mean, we're so much bigger now 666 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760 than we were 10 years ago when I when I was touring, like it's 667 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720 come night and day, like the, the events are crazy. 668 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,400 So we have grown. Pickleball has taken off quite, 669 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120 you know, more excessively than we have for sure. 670 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Yeah, there's there's several things working in pickleball's 671 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880 favor that aren't working in disc golf's favor. 672 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,200 One of those is they had an established demographic of 673 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,600 people who are willing. Sorry, but the microphone. 674 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,560 You said you had mic, dude. I do. 675 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080 But it's in a weird place. OK, I'm just going to hold it. 676 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,320 OK, OK. They have an established 677 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040 demographic of people who already like to spend money. 678 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120 So the people who were playing pickleball before are, you know, 679 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,680 in their 50s, sixties, 70s, a lot of them are retirees. 680 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,800 And so they're more prone to spend money with a sponsor than 681 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880 a lot of the typical disc golf demographic who just go out to 682 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,800 the park, you know, once a week. So I think that's one big thing 683 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,320 too. You're exactly right. 684 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,800 If you want to film a pickleball event, you can do so with three 685 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,680 cameras and, and wire them in because it's close to like, 686 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,080 yeah, you're close to electricity and and and 687 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Internet. So it's easy to do that. 688 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,040 Whereas on the disc golf pro tour, we're talking all cards 689 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,080 and, and taking what, four or five cameras, but walking them 690 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,280 over this in a massive area. So it's it's isolated that makes 691 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,040 it easier because pickleball is a team sport. 692 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,280 You have more people playing, like you have four people 693 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,560 playing at once together always. And a lot of celebrities have 694 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,400 really started to like that and people with money. 695 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,520 And so they sponsor big teams. And when those people with those 696 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,560 names get involved and you get bigger sponsors. 697 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,640 And so, yeah, there's just like some advantages to what 698 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,000 pickleball has by default that is difficult for disc golf to 699 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,240 create. How many tournaments have you 700 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840 played at pickleball tournaments have you played? 701 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,160 20. 20 in of thirty of those 20 pickleball tournaments, did any 702 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,840 of them have player packs? Oh yeah, good question. 703 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,000 A bunch of them, dude. What? 704 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,000 What level? Like how? 705 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,680 What was the most expensive item you got as a? 706 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,880 Oh yeah, it's not, it's, it's never good stuff. 707 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,480 Right. It's just like, it's like I was 708 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,760 gonna say more. Importantly, how much are your 709 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200 entry fees? Yeah, yeah, super good question. 710 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,520 So for for like a local pickleball tournament, you'll 711 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,720 pay anywhere from like 40 to $50 maybe, maybe a little bit more. 712 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,360 If it's like a fundraiser, you might pay more. 713 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,280 If it's one of the professional ones, then it's more in like the 714 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,360 150 range for for one event, yeah. 715 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,520 Yeah, yeah. How much would you say like your 716 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,160 player? The player pack is nowhere close 717 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,560 to that. Like maybe you get a shirt, 718 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880 maybe you get a 11 pickleball or like a coupon to something, but 719 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,000 it's not. Yeah. 1. 720 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Pickleball in pickleball. So what I'm getting at is the 721 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,120 reason I'm asking is and I'm going to keep it real and maybe 722 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,760 it's been a while, I know. It's been a long time since 723 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,560 Bobby's. Kept it real? 724 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640 I've heard that you've kept it fake for so long. 725 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120 Now that I'm back. It's all keeping it real now. 726 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520 The last four years has been a complete hoax, so. 727 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,160 You've kept it. Sorry she asked for you. 728 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,600 So. So to both of you, what are your 729 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,160 opinions this hot take? Did we spoil disc golfers 730 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,400 because of our player packs? Did we set a tournament 731 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,320 directors? And I'm not blaming anyone in 732 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,040 particular at all because they've all done it right. 733 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:11,240 But have we to because we tried to incentivize people to sign 734 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 up? Did we spoil spoil them? 735 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Did we set a unhealthy, unsustainable precedent when it 736 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,200 comes to player pack? Good chance of that. 737 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520 I mean it it, it also depends. Are you playing for money when 738 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,720 you play pickleball or are you playing for? 739 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Sometimes, but most of the time it's just for a medal or 740 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920 whatever. Sure, it's just to compete so. 741 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,400 That's that's the difference, right? 742 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Most amateur events nowadays, you don't really get script for 743 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440 winning right. It's mostly player pack only. 744 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,240 I feel like maybe I'm wrong in that, but I feel like that's 745 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,480 when I was an amateur playing disc golf. 746 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,040 We would pay and we'd probably get like AT shirt, right? 747 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Like a 120% cotton T-shirt. The heaviest? 748 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,840 But we would get like AT shirt and then we would win like a 749 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,800 Dylan's bag or a Walmart sack full of Frisbees that we didn't 750 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,800 even pick out. Right? 751 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,160 Right. That was like how it was back 752 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,280 then. Then it's kind of somewhere over 753 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,520 time has changed into you pay a higher entry fee, you get twice 754 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,400 your money in a player pack and then that's kind of it, yeah. 755 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,520 Yeah, and it feels like different companies, different 756 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,280 stores or tournament directors were trying. 757 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,639 It was the the race of who can give away more, you know? 758 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,760 Oh my God, they gave away a small bag. 759 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Oh, we got to give away a medium sized bag. 760 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,280 Oh, now we got to give away the biggest bag. 761 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,120 We, you know, the most expensive bag we have. 762 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,920 Yeah. So I, I just wonder, I'm not 763 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,480 saying that's to blame, but I feel like that's a, a piece of 764 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,040 the puzzle in my mind that has maybe not quite allowed it to 765 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,320 grow as far as the tournament scene, the, the, the more local 766 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560 amateur, more amateur lower level tournament. 767 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,360 Scene No, I agree. I agree for sure. 768 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,199 Because yeah, when like for me, when I show up to a pickleball 769 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,639 tournament, all I'm there to do is just play and compete and 770 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,320 like try to win and have fun, right? 771 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,400 I'm not. If I ever get anything 772 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,760 worthwhile in a player pack, it's bonus. 773 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,680 It's not at all expected. But when I started playing 774 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680 tournament disc golf tournaments, this would have 775 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,200 been like 2009, 2010, somewhere in there. 776 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,480 Yeah, you got a player's pack that was like worth as much as 777 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,720 your entry fee. How? 778 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,560 How can that be sustainable long term for tournament like event 779 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,960 coordinators, you know? So now we've talked about a few 780 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,920 things that we see that are challenges or problems or 781 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,000 issues, whatever you want to call it. 782 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,120 What do we think at this point going forward today? 783 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,320 Literally the state of disc golf pandemics over, you know, all 784 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,320 the things are happening in the disc golf industry of, you know, 785 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,080 companies leaning out. What do you think we can do 786 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,600 moving forward? I'll tell you one, and this is 787 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600 just from what I've seen with pickleball, like the more people 788 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,480 that you get who have influence and money, who can come in and 789 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,920 show, hey, this is awesome. Look how difficult this is. 790 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,720 And and these guys are doing it at an unbelievable by the by the 791 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,720 way, players now are ridiculous how good they are. 792 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,680 Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's truly insane to watch these guys and 793 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,920 girls. They're they're unbelievable. 794 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,200 It's obnoxious. Yeah. 795 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,280 It's. Yeah, I just laugh a lot of 796 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,080 times when I see them throw cuz that's just that seems 797 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,320 impossible. But if you wanted to grow and 798 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,760 get those type of sponsorships, you have to start shaking the 799 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,480 right hands and making the right connections. 800 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,960 And it's difficult to do that number one. 801 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,400 And two, disc golf has always, not always, but generally had 802 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,800 kind of like a grassroots feel. And this is, you know, we're not 803 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,600 corporate, we're not this. And so like, I think those two 804 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,560 things are fighting against each. 805 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,720 Other a little bit, yeah. Yeah, I'd agree with that. 806 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,680 Not sure that there's a right or wrong way to do it, but if 807 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,480 you're trying to get that type of sponsorship, you're not going 808 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,560 to do it by kind of like insulating against that. 809 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520 Money. Yeah, 100%. 810 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,320 Money, money, money. Money, money, money. 811 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,880 Bobby, you've got money now. I do. 812 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,280 I don't know. No, I don't. 813 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,560 No, I don't. All right, Franklin's got a 814 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,280 question for Eric. How many courses have you 815 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,760 designed now? Right now. 816 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,480 And how many states, countries have you installed courses in? 817 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:20,320 I am over 90 courses designed. I am in 29 states, so I'm over 818 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,960 halfway to my goal. And then one other country, 819 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,560 which was Canada. So I mean, it's close, yeah. 820 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,880 30th state was Washington, which I'm designing now. 821 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,320 I'm in the process of, of designing it now. 822 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,200 So that'll be my #30 So only 20 more to go, you know, And man, I 823 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,720 just, I really want to hit that goal. 824 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,640 Of the 30 states that you've designed courses, in, which 825 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,600 state would you say is the most challenging as far as the the 826 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,840 landscape and the, and the soil and, and everything involved? 827 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,080 Not an issue the bureaucracy or anything like that, but more of 828 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,800 the land. Yeah, well, the land, I was 829 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,720 going a different way until you said that because like, yeah, we 830 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:06,680 can talk about that later too. But as far as like probably 831 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640 Alaska, honestly. Oh yeah. 832 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080 And I think it's because, I mean, I went up there in 2018, 833 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,960 designed the course in like May, we started cutting woods and, 834 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,120 and you know, getting fairways cut out and all that. 835 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,960 And then they had to stop because of winter. 836 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,880 And then the next year it just rained and you can't get 837 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,320 equipment in there. So I mean, I, you only have 838 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,680 three months to do this course. So we've been, I think it took 839 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,760 us ended up like 5 or 6 years before it was like, Dang, we're 840 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,080 done. We're finally done. 841 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,120 And now we can just enjoy it, you know, so and I'm going there 842 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,000 in like a week for the for the tournament up there. 843 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,880 So that's probably one of the the harder ones. 844 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,920 We obviously places in Texas where it's just rock is, is 845 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,200 pretty challenging as well. But yeah. 846 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440 What was the easiest? The easiest. 847 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,600 State that you're like I could. I designed this with my eyes 848 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,760 closed. I mean, probably, as much as I 849 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,400 hate to say it, Kansas really, I mean, because there's 124 trees 850 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,840 out there, right? You know what I mean? 851 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,680 Like unfortunately, and, and typically when you do have a big 852 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600 grouping of trees, it's in a floodplain along a river. 853 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,280 So you've got to take those things into consideration as 854 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,480 well. So yeah, Midwest is is usually 855 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,560 pretty, pretty cut and dry on on how you can put a course in. 856 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Very cool. We'll have to get more. 857 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,960 I I have all like, oh, OK, one more. 858 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,240 OK, so of the, of the 30 states you've done and you're designing 859 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,640 these courses, this isn't more state specific, but more of a 860 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,520 question just popped my head. How many times have you like 861 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,280 been out to the, the, the land saw had a vision for what you 862 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,880 wanted And then as things started happening, what 863 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,280 percentage maybe that's a better question. 864 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,280 What percentage of what you the final vision you had changes 865 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,440 over time? Does that make sense over time? 866 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,200 I mean, look at Emporia. How often do we change things in 867 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,080 Emporia? OK, wait, maybe maybe more 868 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,040 specifically like. You're saying before it goes? 869 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,640 Underground. Yeah, before opening day. 870 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,240 Like from. That day one to typically when 871 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:10,000 things change, it's it's woods. It's typically in the woods, 872 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,280 right. Because So what I'll do is I'll 873 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,360 go down the middle of a proposed fairway and hang ribbon. 874 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,360 Yeah. And a lot of times, if I'm able 875 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,480 to be there is like have a, my, my best experience of this was 876 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,320 at the hollows, the, the newer course at the Hollows, I had 877 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,520 ribbon, pink ribbon. And the guy had an excavator 878 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,600 with one of those tree eaters on the front of it. 879 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,760 And I would tie a ribbon and he would come and then he would 880 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,320 just take out everything like within like 6 inches of a tree, 881 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,640 you know, within 2030 feet of each side of this ribbon. 882 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,560 And he would just follow me through the woods. 883 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,360 And we did. Here's your fairway now. 884 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,560 Yeah, we did 16 holes in one day for that course, which is 885 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,360 unbelievable. But honestly, in the woods a lot 886 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,200 of times, like I'll have everything cut out and then I'll 887 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,400 come back and be like, OK, this opened up more than I was 888 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,280 expecting. Let's push the pin to the left a 889 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,520 little bit more, or deeper or shorter or whatever that is so. 890 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:02,760 That's interesting. Wooded. 891 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,760 Courses. It's yeah, it's a true blank 892 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,040 canvas. Of all the courses that I got to 893 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,200 play while I worked here, the Hollows was one of my favorites. 894 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,840 Like just so cool. Yeah, it's fun. 895 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,960 Maybe it's because like I grew up in Texas, there are wooded 896 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,920 courses there, but there's a lot of open stuff. 897 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,480 It's just like a different style of golf and a different design 898 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,800 on. Like big woods, right? 899 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,080 Yeah, It's like big trees, not like smaller. 900 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,080 It's not this little scrubby. Station. 901 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,200 Yeah, it was. It was a blast. 902 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,320 Super cool place. When was the last time, Robert, 903 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,400 that you played actually played around? 904 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,920 This afternoon, the challenge. Trilogy Challenge this 905 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,000 afternoon. Let's see, I don't remember the 906 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,520 answer to tell you that. Yeah, 19. 87. 907 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,440 That's right. I was, I was 2 and I think the 908 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,680 last time I went out was like 2 years ago. 909 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,800 I did have some pickleball friends show up to a, to a thing 910 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,320 that I was playing and they said hey, we've we've found you out. 911 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,800 And I was like, what I, I didn't know there was something to be 912 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,840 found out. And they're like, no, we, we 913 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040 started playing disc golf and then so we were looking for 914 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440 tutorials and stuff. And all of a sudden I'm watching 915 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,600 you play a play a playoff with this guy with long hair and, and 916 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,080 I was like, yeah, I remember that video. 917 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,400 They're. Like dude, why did, why did you 918 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:18,960 say? Anything. 919 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,800 I don't know, I just didn't think about it. 920 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,160 So yeah, I will probably go play with them in the coming weeks 921 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,360 just to like help them learn and stuff, yeah. 922 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,400 That's good. OK, So if you had one chance to 923 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,120 play 11. Opportunity. 924 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,600 And the spaghetti's all over you. 925 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,680 It's like. It's really tough because your 926 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,640 your sweater is stained. Yeah. 927 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,800 And that doesn't come out. You had you were going to play 928 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040 one round of disc golf. Like someone said, let's go play 929 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,040 disc golf. Yeah, let's what course you want 930 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,680 to go to? I've got a jet. 931 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,400 We can go to any course. Oh, nice. 932 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,760 OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 933 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,160 Come on, be the right. One, it would have to be one 934 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,520 that I haven't played. That's not the right answer. 935 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,080 Like I I could choose one that I've played and one that. 936 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,000 OK, there you go. OK, there you go. 937 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,800 For one that I haven't played, man, it's got to be like like 938 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,480 one of the famous ones in Europe like the like the beast at Nokia 939 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,000 or or like or or Yarva. I mean either I would probably 940 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,240 if I had to choose between those, I'd probably take Yarva 941 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,720 like just because good answer. Yeah, I mean that's a like we, 942 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,280 we thought about when we were in Finland, we had a not a super 943 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,800 long layover like a 5 or 6 hour layover and we talked seriously 944 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080 about getting out to that course from where we were flying out as 945 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,480 it would have been probably a dumb idea, but also an awesome 946 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,600 1. It's a great course. 947 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,320 It's one of my favorites that I've played. 948 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,960 For sure, for sure. So that's that one to play one 949 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080 that I have played. I've only gotten to play a 950 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,720 couple of holes with this. And so this is a little bit 951 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,280 cheating, but I would go to Maple Hill. 952 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,720 I mean, it's been I got to play like the first three holes and 953 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:54,640 then did commentary and that's the only time that I've been 954 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,880 there. And that's like if you have, I 955 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,560 used to describe it like this, it's like Mario Big world. 956 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,680 I mean, when you're used to seeing kind of small stuff and 957 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,920 now you're on this course, it's everything's huge. 958 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,600 So yeah, super fun place to play. 959 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,080 Did you have? Yes. 960 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,800 OK, that. And then that was a blast. 961 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,640 That's right. That's right for me. 962 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that was super cool. 963 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,080 I have yet to play anywhere in the Northwest. 964 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,960 And so like, I would love to see Milo at some point. 965 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,440 Yeah. I mean, it's Whistlers, yes, all 966 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,120 those, all those up there. And then to get out to a couple 967 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,000 of California courses. Some. 968 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,160 Some are kind of their, yeah, some of their famous ones. 969 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,480 Hammond Park. Yeah. 970 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,880 And Hammond also, I would take, I would take the jet across 971 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,240 town. You would drive all the way to 972 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,640 the Emporia Municipal. Fly, fly into town. 973 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,360 Yeah, Yeah. That's a question for you, 974 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,840 though. If you could like, let's just 975 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,440 say it's one stateside, 1 international, like what? 976 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,200 Which ones would you choose? Right now, yeah, like today, 977 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,720 International, I mean, Schleftia, yeah. 978 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:57,840 And it's my favorite. It's so. 979 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,240 Cool. It's just so cool. 980 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,640 It's also. The par 6 there's like 5 courses 981 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,960 out there too that you can play like I did the 100 and what is 982 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,600 it? 108 hole challenge or something 983 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,800 like that. I don't remember how many holes 984 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,400 it was but it was insane stateside. 985 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,680 Oh man, gosh, you just listed so many just awesome, fantastic 986 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,480 courses. Gosh, I don't even know dude. 987 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,120 That's that's so hard. It's a tough one. 988 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,320 It is really tough. I mean, you can't go wrong at 989 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,320 Maple Hill. You can't go wrong at Milo. 990 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,920 Yep. Milo's probably my answer. 991 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,760 Yeah, it's just. Just. 992 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,680 Just a beautiful piece of property. 993 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,680 It's awesome. Yep. 994 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,040 All right. Last question comes from Jay 995 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,080 Weems. Are there any plans for any more 996 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,840 discs ran in fluid and lava plastic? 997 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,360 Also, please bring back Snow Line. 998 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,040 Explorers love to show. I'm glad you're back, Bobby. 999 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,000 Thank you so much. It's great to be back. 1000 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,320 Yes, I've already got some fluid plastic ordered. 1001 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,240 Oh. Hey. 1002 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,600 So. There you go. 1003 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,160 All right. And coming out soon is the 1004 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,920 moonshine deputies. Remember that we talked about? 1005 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,960 You asked. Everyone's coming out next week. 1006 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,920 Is that what's coming out next week? 1007 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,640 OK, so the. Moonshine and they. 1008 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,400 Got the little astronaut the color. 1009 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,040 Memes on that? Yep, that guy. 1010 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,080 Nice, so want to make sure to get that. 1011 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,000 In. I don't know why I said that 1012 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,360 after. Can I can I ask both of y'all 1013 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,040 what you're throwing now? Like what's? 1014 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,680 What does your bag look like? Now I'm throwing this. 1015 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,040 Throwing bows. Throwing bows. 1016 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,680 Let's see, I am. It's. 1017 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,200 'Cause you've been building your back back. 1018 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,040 So sorta, yes, kinda when I've had time. 1019 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:38,480 But like right now there's a vandal, A renegade trespass, the 1020 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:46,640 suspect verdict, the EMAC truth, the warrant, the the justice, 1021 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,680 and then deputies for putters. And then there's something I 1022 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,040 know I'm missing something else. And then because I want to get 1023 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,960 used to them and be able to talk about them, I have the motive 1024 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,920 prototypes and the treason prototypes in my bag. 1025 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,080 So that's that's what I'm throwing. 1026 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,200 I would say the treason will be the one that is in my bag 1027 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,760 permanently. The motive, I have to kind of 1028 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,960 see if I really need that. But the treason for sure, Yeah, 1029 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,200 for sure. Yeah, awesome. 1030 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,800 How about you? Same as always, Yeah. 1031 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,640 I mean, bliss to Joel. Yeah. 1032 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,320 I mean, got member him, got to of course. 1033 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,960 Yeah, still there, still still huge, still absolutely huge. 1034 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,520 Emac Truths. Emac Judges, Fusionx Vandals, 1035 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,200 you know all the goods. Good. 1036 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,360 Wonderful. Yeah. 1037 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,240 Does does the Rive see much play these days? 1038 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,320 Not in my bag, OK? Not in my. 1039 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,360 Not when you have a. Ballista Joel. 1040 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,200 People talk about it though. You know, it's a great disc, but 1041 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,640 it's just that between that and the grace are the two that, like 1042 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,120 you either have one or the other in the bag and I have neither. 1043 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,280 OK, you got you got ballista Joel. 1044 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,400 You're set. What do you need? 1045 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,840 What else do you need, Joel? OK. 1046 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,760 Do you still have a disc golf bag or did you? 1047 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,200 Get rid of all this but a small one. 1048 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,600 I mean like, well it's a Ranger bag, but it's like, I don't 1049 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,440 know, let's see I I when I left here, I hadn't thrown a non DD 1050 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,520 disc since. The 80s. 1051 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:12,800 When I was 2, I since like 2012 somewhere right in there. 1052 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,280 So I put some different stuff in there. 1053 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,640 I have a couple of forces and a Wraith. 1054 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,320 I was like the Wraith especially I got a little baby arm. 1055 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,760 I can't throw far as I especially can't now. 1056 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,400 But then like sorry, even then I couldn't throw far. 1057 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,640 Now I definitely can't throw far. 1058 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,600 So that's helpful for that. I I've got a rock in there. 1059 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,800 I've got I still have an emac truths in there. 1060 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,080 I've got Maverick is my favorite turnover my favorite dog 1061 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,520 Fairway. Yeah, for sure. 1062 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,480 Turnover fairway driver got T birds in there that I liked. 1063 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,960 But my favorite is I'm still putting with first run wardens 1064 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,120 because I just have yet to find something that I like better. 1065 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,800 But I have an old 12 time KC Pro AVR that's so beat up that the 1066 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,800 bead is just no longer existing. So it's like a warden? 1067 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,000 Exactly. Yeah, it's it's what it flies 1068 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,640 like, but like a very under stable one. 1069 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,720 Yeah, it weighs like 168 and it's only for jump puts and it's 1070 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,360 awesome. So yeah, the last time I played, 1071 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,440 that's what I played. With so like old school, nothing 1072 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,720 is like the newer. No, I don't think I don't have 1073 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:18,440 time for that. None of that new new. 1074 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,480 I don't got time for. That I got time for that new 1075 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,840 new. All right, Robert. 1076 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,920 Well, I don't want to take up too much of more of your time. 1077 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,800 I appreciate you coming. I don't want to take any more 1078 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,040 time either. Yes, So it's fine. 1079 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,200 Give it back. I didn't want to talk to you 1080 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,360 guys. So no, we appreciate you coming 1081 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,200 in for a little nostalgia, a little having fun. 1082 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,000 But to everybody's question, I know a lot of you have been 1083 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:39,760 wanting to know, is McCall coming back? 1084 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,240 Yes, for this one episode. Yeah, what's, what's the John 1085 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,680 Wick quote? People have been asking if I'm 1086 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,000 back. I haven't really had an answer. 1087 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,520 So of course, when you're in town. 1088 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,120 Come on back. Obviously, let us know have you 1089 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,800 on the show, but it's been a lot of fun to have you on. 1090 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,000 We appreciate it. Yeah, listeners, good to good to 1091 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,920 see and talk to you guys again. Thank you for the questions on 1092 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,720 Facebook. And yeah, it's good to spend 1093 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,760 time with you two guys. And not one, Dang it, the whole 1094 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,080 episode. What a waste of an episode. 1095 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,800 I'll tell you what man, I go. Who had the under? 1096 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,440 Who had the? Under. 1097 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:17,360 I'll tell you what, I got kids, man, I gotta. 1098 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,360 Yeah. I live in the PG world now. 1099 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,120 We can't be saying these Dang, it's I I will say when I do say 1100 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,400 Dang in front of my son, he said We don't say Dang. 1101 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:27,960 You're right, son. We. 1102 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,680 Say that's right. That's right. 1103 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,320 We don't. Yeah, you're right. 1104 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,280 No, that's true. We don't say that. 1105 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,840 Have you slipped up in front of your kids? 1106 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,360 Oh yeah, not on. I am human. 1107 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,800 Yeah, no, it's funny, man. It is crazy. 1108 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,840 One thing about parenthood is you can tell, like, what you've 1109 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,120 done well and what you've done poorly immediately by watching 1110 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,480 your children like, because they're like his. 1111 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,640 The way that he put sentences together. 1112 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,360 Sounds like me. And so if he says something that 1113 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,440 I'm frustrated by, I really have to take a step back and be like, 1114 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,240 is that what how I would have said that? 1115 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:03,880 And sometimes it's yes, that that is how. 1116 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,400 So other than that, what, what else about him that you look at 1117 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080 and get mad because you're like, that is me? 1118 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,760 Yeah. To a tease. 1119 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,440 Yeah, for sure. I will say I like, I really try 1120 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,600 to be level headed pretty much all the time, but if I, if I get 1121 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,840 just pushed far enough, I just have, I can have a little bit of 1122 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,640 a short fuse and get very frustrated mostly internally. 1123 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,640 And I see that in Owen, like he'll, he'll just, you can see 1124 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,640 him starting to boil and I'm like, OK, I recognize this. 1125 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,240 Please don't, please don't do that. 1126 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,440 Like nothing bad is really going to come of it, but I'm trying to 1127 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,680 get him to like reign those emotions in. 1128 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,360 I I I need I always work on that. 1129 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,680 So, so, and I know this isn't disc golf really, but I just get 1130 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,520 after. So when you see those certain 1131 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,400 traits that you're recognizing that they're from you, what has 1132 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,440 that taught you about yourself? Well, yeah, I mean, you have to 1133 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,360 it's like putting up a mirror in front of you in some ways, 1134 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,840 right? So you've got to be just self 1135 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,000 aware enough to say that's not good. 1136 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600 And and like there's, there's only a few places that you could 1137 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,600 have learned that from school or me or mom. 1138 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,600 So yeah, when I see him start to boil over, I'm like, OK, I got 1139 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,680 him. I got to be a little bit more 1140 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,280 patient. Yeah. 1141 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,280 So anyway, yeah, it's it forces you to be self aware about stuff 1142 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,920 that maybe you wouldn't have really wanted to uncover before. 1143 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,480 Yeah, I've had. Kids is crazy man. 1144 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,120 Yeah, I feel that way about Eric sometimes. 1145 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,360 It's like putting a mirror. Up right. 1146 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,680 Yeah, that's right. Fair. 1147 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,040 All right, Thanks guys again for coming in, Robert, and thanks 1148 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,800 guys for tuning in. We'll see you. 1149 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,040 We'll see you on the next episode. 1150 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,240 We'll see Robert tomorrow on the pickleball court. 1151 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,880 That's right, I'll be there. Good luck to you. 1152 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,680 I'll be there, thank you. You know, hit that kitchen or 1153 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,000 whatever. That's what they always say in 1154 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,760 pickleball. Hit that. 1155 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,960 Kitchen. Hit that kitchen. 1156 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,320 It's a T-shirt. Dude, it is that kitchen. 1157 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,960 It really is. It really is. 1158 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:57,400 All right, we'll see you.