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You could pop them into the 
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probably won't. 
Dang. 

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Dang. 
Dang, hello, everybody, and 

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welcome to this episode of the 
Disc Golf Answer Man. 

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I am Bobby. 
Cool daddy, slick breeze, and I 

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got with me Eric McCabe. 
You must be chilly McCabe. 

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McCabe, I'm just gonna throw it 
in there. 

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Best nickname of of all time. 
Of all time. 

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Yeah. 
Well, I notice you have a hoodie

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on. 
It's not a hoodie, it's a long 

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sleeve performance tee. 
Oh my bad. 

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What's it say on the front? 
Alaska disc golf. 

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Oh nice, it's. 
From Meyer Lake these are nice 

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it. 
Is it's not from Georgia? 

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It it and it's 70° outside and 
it's 10. 

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It is. 
It's chilly when I left. 

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This morning it was nice I. 
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was like. 
It is cold. 

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I left the house at 5:00 in the 
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I had to wear my hat 'cause my 
head was cold. 

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But yes, it was Cheney a beat. 
No, it was a hat. 

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It was a ball cap. 
All right, so we are back here 

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in Emporia, KS. 
I say that because it's been a 

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while since we've done a an 
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I've traveled to Idyllwild. 
You have been to. 

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Ohio. 
Ohio. 

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Iowa. 
Iowa all course stuff or? 

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Yeah, OK, Yep. 
What is the latest with course 

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design? 
The latest and greatest, Well, I

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just travelled to Iowa, like I 
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a course out there that I did a 
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You went there, Piasta. 
Oh yeah, Piasta. 

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I was going to see if you still 
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from. 
I mean, it's on our YouTube 

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channel. 
Drove down Main St. in the RV. 

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If I remember, I'll put the clip
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And if you're wondering why it 
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forgot, right? 
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sidewalk in on that, that 
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So I came in and, and moved a 
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I haven't, I actually have a 
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that. 
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tune with that, check out my 
YouTube channel. 

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And then I'm also working on a 
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I think we've discussed this one
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as well is another one that I've
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just now getting to the phase of
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fairways and and then I'll 
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officially mark everything so. 
Very cool. 

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Yeah. 
All right. 

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Do you find that, like at this, 
like disc golf season isn't? 

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I mean, we've still got quite a 
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We still got through October. 
Feels like it's over. 

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I know it feels like it's like 
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down. 
Down, I guess, is the better 

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term. 
They're not over. 

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Do you think does course design 
pick up slow down still stay the

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same? 
I think it stays close to the 

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and those kind of things, I'd 
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everything's dormant. 
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through, I can see sight lines a
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Just makes it a little little a 
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walking through Poison Ivy and 
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fun stuff. 
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when you can see that you can 
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A little easier, I can see that 
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But yeah, season's not over. 
I guess we've still got USDT. 

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C yeah, USDTC, we got the the 
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Yeah, Isn't that is that, is 
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Is it match play or is that like
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No, they're doing match play 
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But I, I. 
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championship was mass play. 
I know who knows what they do. 

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I've been following a couple of 
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man, there's so much out there 
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So much, so much. 
What do you listen? 

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I notice sometimes you listen to
disc golf podcast. 

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What do you listen to as far as 
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I, I, I'll, I'll go to my 4 
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I don't even know what's called 
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channel and just kind of look at
what's, what's popping out. 

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I, I take in a lot of it, 
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I'll listen to Ulta world 
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to listen to those dudes talk 
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Goodness, what else do I listen 
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And then I just, I'll just take 
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Bodanza, I like him a lot. 
We did a couple videos together.

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So yeah, I, I, whatever. 
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probably watch it. 
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to get him on the show because 
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more about him to have an 
interview. 

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I liked it, yes. 
The upshot? 

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I listened to Griplock I 
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surprisingly and nothing, no 
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but surprisingly. 
Don't listen. 

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To disc golf world. 
Oh yeah, I listen to them. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I'll, I'll listen to them. 

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Like for a while I felt like 
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like, you know, I. 
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extent, but some. 
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from their fan base, but I enjoy
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I mean, it's quick. 
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just happened, everything that 
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down. 
I, I do, I I'll listen. 

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I they're on my sub list with 
the little bell and I get 

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notifications when they drop 
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Smash that bell. 
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Now I say, no offense. 
I didn't mean. 

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into like, OK, I need to like, 
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social media disco stuff. 
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stuff was sensationalized, like 
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feels like that's either slowed 
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But yeah, they're one that like.
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be like that, though. 
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we don't care, we're going to 
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things like that, and they've 
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You didn't even mention 
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lasts how long it is. 
That's an old running joke. 

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the show or if I just get a 
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you know? 
It's just not my, it's not my 

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The long, long format. 

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I know some people enjoy it and 
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and kudos to Terry and and 
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around for the longest time, but
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quick bites of disc golf world 
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especially like Griplock. 
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And so I get little bites in 
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Debate Night Do you ever watch 
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I have watched a few debate 
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that's something that I even 
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something be fun to kind of get 
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our team players or something 
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Just have a round table. 
Discussion. 

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Just get on discuss we. 
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It's right there. 
We do have a round, a a 

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triangle, and no, we don't have 
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That would be kind of wild, a 
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A triangle table, yeah. 
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went on off on that tangent. 
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If you're watching, if you're 
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apologize, but if you're 
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on our table that we're going to
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We have a lot of new releases, 
some that are already out, some 

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that are coming out very soon 
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won't come out till another 
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about them. 
If you are watching or listening

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to this on Spotify, we do upload
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But if you are an audio only 
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check out the clips to see the 
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But we'll talk about it so 
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And I also want to talk about 
some events that we have coming 

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up as well. 
So, but first let's jump into 

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something that's already out and
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Now, we released the heist in a 
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very well. 
It kind of had a little bit of a

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slow start, but I think as 
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about it, they grabbed a hold of
it, and they're loving the 

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heist. 
Yeah, it's a good disk. 

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Yeah, So last Thursday. 

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So tell us about the heist. 
Eric, what were you thinking 

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when you said this needs to be a
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It's to be a disk. 
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the trespass. 
Yes, how much I have preached 

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about the trespass for. 
Let's see 12 years, however long

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that disc has been out But and 
and there's just something about

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a beat in seasoned trespass. 
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the heist is so fresh out the 
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If you need a seasoned trespass,
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going to be reaching for. 
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it and getting nice big turnover
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It does work great for Heiser 
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know Bobby uses it a lot for 
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full on headwind drives, but if 
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shot, you are reaching for your 
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disc, though. 
I I I'm very excited about it 

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and I think fusion these fusion.
It just looks really clean. 

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The the plastic feels nice. 
I mean it doesn't feel like some

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of that older like I don't know 
how to explain the old fusion 

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stuff that felt like it would 
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This stuff feels very durable 
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softer. 
So I, I think these are, I think

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these are going to be a winner. 
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it's a speed 12 right on the 
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definitely in the wind. 
But yes, with a headwind. 

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But I just recently went out to 
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Arrow, and I did it a round 
where I threw the heist, Treason

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Renegade, and it's passing kind 
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So I think that went over well 
and the heist became a disc that

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will be on my bag. 
It's not the one I'm going to 

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grab all the time, but if it's a
headwind for sure, grab the 

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heist. 
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All right. 
And then events. 

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As far as events, we'll go over 
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But as far as events as well, if

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you want to come to Emporia, KS 
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courses we have out here, we 
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now. 
It's obviously open to ladies 

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only because it's in the name. 
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through 5th and that's where 
Jackie and Denise do a fantastic

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job running events so that women
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What course do they play? 
Pan Peter Pan. 

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And I believe this is their 7th 
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So that's that's huge and quick 
shameless plug, but the day 

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before the Emporia Ladies Open, 
if you are bringing your 

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significant other down, we are 
hosting a Flex Star C tier as a 

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Emporia State disc golf 
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So if you guys want to come down
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ladies want to practice the 
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exact layout so. 
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complete weekend out of it, you 
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on Friday and then that evening 
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walk in downtown or the Emporia.
And the downtown Emporia is a 

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big art like they do. 
They have the Emporia. 

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Art Council. 
Out art council where they have 

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where you can go in there and 
look at stuff. 

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So yeah. 
And then of course look at art, 

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look at art and on Saturday and 
Sunday we have rounds on 

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Saturday, round one on Saturday,
round two on Sunday. 

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So check that out. 
And then the other bit we have 

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coming up is the Hand Eye 
Classic on October 18th and that

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is played on with. 
Jones East and Jones West. 

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Boom, now that be prepared for 
some weirdness 'cause that's 

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hand eye classic and he likes to
weirdness. 

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But it's fun weirdness. 
It's cool weirdness. 

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He was already telling me it's. 
A great event. 

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Some of the stuff he has going 
on and so that's interesting. 

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That's going to be Saturday, 
October 18th. 

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Looks like nothing. 
SO2 rounds and then. 

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One on east, one on West. 
It's only a one day event, yeah.

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Which one day's events I 
remember are like, people really

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like that because you still have
your weekend left. 

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Yeah, especially when it's on a 
Saturday. 

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You know, you can do your 
Saturday, you can spend Sunday 

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just chilling, relaxing and all 
of that. 

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So that's always nice. 
I know how you Oklahoma guys and

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your Kansas people are. 
You wait till the last minute. 

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Don't wait till the last minute.
Get signed up. 

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Limited spots available. 
So that'll be fun. 

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And then further down the road 
in November, we have the Freedom

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Fest. 
Let's not talk about November 

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already. 
But people might want to plant. 

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So Freedom Fest, of course, 
Emporia, the founding city of 

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Veteran's Day, they really like 
to do it up around that time, 

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so. 
Do they still do all the other 

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not not with our events, but 
Freedom Fest. 

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Do they still do like the I know
they do a bike race, they do a 

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run scavenger. 
I mean, there's all kinds of 

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cool like activities that 
happened that week or that day. 

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I'm not I'm not exactly positive
on it. 

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I'm pretty sure it's still the 
same. 

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Yeah, they literally are called 
run, ride, release, ruck and 

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recognize for a great 'cause 
which. 

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One are we ruck? 
I don't doubt it. 

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We're probably the release. 
That makes sense. 

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So, yeah, that's cool. 
Yeah. 

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So a bunch of different 
activities that you can 

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participate during that week. 
Let's see, I'm trying to find 

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out where they show, oh, events.
A Wagon wheel, Freedom run, 

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walk, Freedom Ride. 
So that's the bike ride, the 

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dynamic disc, Freedom Fest. 
Open the disc. 

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What's that? 
Vigilance? 

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Martial arts? 
Norwegian Foot March. 

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I'm in. 
Southern Star Warrior Spur 

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challenge? 
I've never heard of that. 

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Oh, that's cool. 
They're like on a beam with 

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ninja stars throwing at each 
other. 

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It says type of event. 
Triple event with 5K run, 40 

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mile bike and warrior skills 
test. 

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OK, I may have to sign up for 
that. 

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That looks really cool. 
Whoa, there's people on the 

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ground? 
Oh, that's a dummy. 

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They're trying to save the 
dummy. 

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They're trying to save the 
dummy. 

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Save the dummy. 
That's interesting. 

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So anyway, check that out. 
You can actually go to 

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emporiafreedomfest.org get all 
the information, or you can go 

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to disc golf scene. 
Look up Freedom Fest if you just

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want to do the disc. 
Golf and I assume most of our 

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listeners are going to just care
about the disc golf portion of 

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it, but you know, and it's it's 
at Sodin's, which is a really 

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fun little 9 hole course here in
town. 

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I mean, there's all kinds of 
stuff to do for that weekend, so

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maybe people want to just. 
Come on down. 

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Do it up. 
So all right, let's get to the 

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questions, the meat of the 
matter. 

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The meat, meat. 
And potatoes. 

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So remember, you can go to 
discgolfanswerman.com, submit 

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your disc golf questions and we 
will get them on the air. 

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We appreciate you guys sending 
all your questions. 

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And this first one's from 
Matthew. 

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Mr. Slick Breeze for the dynamic
for the dynamic driver lineup 

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for you, what is a good slightly
under stable, stable, then 

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slightly over stable disk 11:50 
speeds preferably. 

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Well, we kind of went over it. 
The heist is a new one that's in

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my bag that I'm going to have 
for AI. 

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Wouldn't say it's. 
I could say it's slightly 

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overstable. 
For me it's. 

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Slightly overstable for you? 
So that's one. 

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And now if it's a lot of wind 
and I'm trying to really get 

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around a tree or get really get 
around with a hyzer, I'm going 

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trespass, go down a little bit 
lower and that's gonna be a 

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renegade. 
The renegade I can get a little 

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more glide more a little more 
flat to throw with that. 

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And then we go with the trees 
in. 

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That's got that nice little 
push. 

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Someone who someone threw it the
other day and said, well that's 

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got a nice push and I was like, 
that makes a lot of sense they. 

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Just push us forward. 
Yeah, it just pushes forward. 

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And so the treason is one that 
I'm really liking. 

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Now I did mention in my video 
and on my live update that I'm 

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thinking about testing out more 
speed eights and speed nines to 

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see how they fly for me and not 
just think of them only as a 

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fairway driver, but maybe off to
T driver. 

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So they're they're maybe that'll
help a little bit. 

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As far as under stable, I got a 
beat in Maverick that I really 

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like. 
That's under stable. 

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And the motive has been really 
good for an under stable disc 

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that if I, if I throw it on an 
Anheuser will keep that turn 

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going. 
But if I throw it nice and flat,

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it'll give me the little bit of 
turn, but then that fade will 

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kick in right at the very end, 
like nice little easy fade. 

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So I like that. 
So thanks for the question, 

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Matthew. 
That's a good question. 

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Next one is Joe P Does Win 
affect a disc thrown on forehand

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the same way it would for 
backhand? 

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For example, a right hand 
backhand throw into a headwind 

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makes the disc less stable. 
Does a right hand forehand throw

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into a headwind also become less
stable? 

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Yes, 'cause it's, it's, it's 
just different rotations on the 

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disc, OK? 
It just it's no different than a

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lefty throwing a backhand. 
Yeah, a back. 

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Sorry, I was trying to a 
backhand forehand. 

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What I was almost said, but no 
throwing a backhand, left hand 

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backhand is what I was my brain 
was trying to say. 

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Yeah, it's it's it's really no 
different. 

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Obviously with forehand and 
backhand, there's different 

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angles that you can put on the 
disc. 

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But if you throw the exact same 
disc into a headwind on a 

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backhand, let's say it's an 
under stable disk and you're 

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throwing it into a head when 
it's going to want to turn over.

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If you do it with a forehand, 
it's going to want to turn over 

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but the opposite way. 
So a backhand right hand 

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backhand turnover disk turnover 
shot is going to move to the 

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right and a forehand is going to
move to the left. 

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Does that make sense? 
So yes, to answer your question,

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they fly the same but different.
I really need to work on my 

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forehand because I don't have a 
great forehand at all so. 

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Boy, is that true. 
And. 

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I don't know if that's. 
True. 

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No, it's very true. 
And then it's even like figuring

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out which disc to use as a 
forehand thrower. 

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What would you tell me if I was 
like? 

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If I'm like, I need to get 
better at my forehand, What 

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would you tell me I need to I? 
Would tell you right now to 

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start working with the escape 
and and not like just no 

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different than these drift ones 
how you just nice and easy. 

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That's what you should be doing.
Not with the drift one, but you 

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know a heavier escape, but it's 
a neutral flying disk. 

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So it'll help you with your 
angles and it'll expose what 

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your issues are. 
Got you. 

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So. 
That's what I would tell you to.

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Do all right, so the next disk, 
that disk that we're going to 

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talk about is something that 
Eric is super excited about and 

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that is the new. 
The drift Sergeant. 

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Yeah, that's his new distance 
driver. 

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No, is the emac retooled truth? 
Tell us about that The. 

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Missing piece I love it that 
it's the missing piece too 

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'cause it's kind of like not 
just a clever name, right, 

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because it's the missing piece 
from the emac Truth lineup. 

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So you know the the disk itself,
the the original emac Truth 

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started to get a little 
flippier. 

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I don't know, I don't know what 
the story behind it is, if it's 

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the plastic or the way they were
manufactured or if it's the 

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mold. 
But I reached out to Oscar at, 

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at over at Latitude and said, 
hey, man, can we make this just 

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a touch more stable? 
I want this just to fly like 

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the, the flight numbers in 10. 
So 55-O2 is, is what the, the 

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flight numbers for the Emac 
Truth are. 

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And I wanted them to fly like 
that. 

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And the new ones were, I mean, 
they were, you know, 55 probably

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lots of glide on it. 
It just, it just held over a 

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little bit longer than I than I 
really wanted. 

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So it would, I couldn't throw it
into any type of a headwind. 

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These new guys, they they just 
hold. 

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I, I did a video the other day 
with them and I compared the, a 

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brand new emac truth off the 
shelf to one of these and trying

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to throw very similar angles, 
power release angles, all of 

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that. 
And there was significant flight

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difference. 
I would say not not like crazy 

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flight differences, but these 
definitely had the integrity 

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that I, I've, I always wanted in
my mid ranges. 

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So, you know, you people that 
are all nervous about the old 

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ones, they're still around. 
They're still going to be here 

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for however long since we have 
so many of them still. 

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The new ones are just going to 
fly a touch more stable. 

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They're going to have that 
predictable fate at the end, 

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like A5502 is supposed to. 
Felix from Ace run production so

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I did Felix. 
I did a live update earlier this

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morning talking about these 
discs. 

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Yeah, he. 
Picked up a couple. 

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Yeah, he picked up a couple and 
he said, he said I could use 

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this quote if I wanted to. 
But he says how did this say it 

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reminded him of the 1st? 
It reminded him of the emac 

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truths that he fell in love with
in 2017. 

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There you go. 
That's exactly what the goal was

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With this. 
I have them go back to the 

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original flight, how they were 
originally manufactured to fly. 

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So I think we've hit it nail on 
head. 

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Yeah. 
And so if you're if you're 

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curious about before you pick 
one up now it went they're 

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available September 18th for 
retail. 

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So if you're curious, cursed if 
cursed, if you're curious, I 

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know Eric has been putting out 
some content on it and then me 

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and him film something that I'm 
going to try to get done by the 

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end of this week so we can put 
out to put some more info on it.

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But that way you can kind of see
how it. 

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Throws also go to your local 
retailer and they're available 

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right now for wholesale. 
And if they don't have them, 

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kick them in the face. 
And let them know hey I really 

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want to try like 5 or 6 of these
of these colors so. 

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And if they don't kick them in 
the face, I'm just kidding. 

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Do not. 
I do not condone kicking people 

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in faces. 
Maybe in somewhere else? 

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Next question comes from Josh. 
He says, I feel classic hybrid 

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is an utter underutilized 
plastic, especially when it 

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comes to mids in general. 
We haven't seen many classic 

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plastic mids in a few years and 
they have high prices on the 

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second hand market. 
Is it possible to get some 

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classic mid runs? 
A classic hybrid Verdict would 

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be wonderful. 
Having that blend grip with 

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greater durability from hybrid 
for mids is a killer combo. 

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I haven't tried the new Pro yet,
but would also give that a go in

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some mids if it were available. 
The new Pro. 

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The new Pro line. 
Oh. 

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The new Pro, like the peak, is 
the new Pro line. 

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00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:46,640
Oh, I got you. 
To answer your question, yes we 

449
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,680
are in the works with some 
classic hybrid disks coming out 

450
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,560
in mids. 
Nice. 

451
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,120
So I believe the verdict is 
actually one of them. 

452
00:21:56,120 --> 00:22:00,120
Now this keep in mind we're 
we're working on this right now,

453
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,200
which means they get 
manufactured, they get put on a 

454
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,000
container, they take a couple 
months to get here. 

455
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,040
So we're looking at, you know, 
towards the beginning of next 

456
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,360
year before we'll see any of it,
but it is in the pipeline. 

457
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,400
There you go. 
And he's not just saying that 

458
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,680
just to say it. 
He's the guy that plans this all

459
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,240
out. 
So. 

460
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,600
So that's exciting. 
And so, yeah, if you ever send 

461
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,200
in Instagram messages or direct 
messages, I'm now going to 

462
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,560
forward them straight to Eric. 
He may not have an answer for 

463
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560
you right away. 
Like, yes, we'll do this. 

464
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,200
But like, it gives him ideas of 
what to to think about what to 

465
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,600
put out next. 
Correct. 

466
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,360
All right. 
Billy Madison. 

467
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:39,560
No, I'm just kidding. 
Well, Billy. 

468
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,800
Say Billy. 
Billy, Billy says Emac Sub. 

469
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,360
Have you designed a course 
outside of the USA? 

470
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,760
If not, are you open to it? 
I have designed one course 

471
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,520
outside of the USA in Canada, 
OH. 

472
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,400
It's technical, I mean a. 
Yeah, it's, it's in Kamloops, 

473
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:06,640
Canada, which is in the BC area.
OK, hour and a half, two hours 

474
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,680
ish from Vancouver. 
They used to host quite a few 

475
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,280
events up there and I became 
very close with Carrie and and 

476
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Chad and you know, the whole 
crew up there that that used to 

477
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,880
host these events and host us 
when we would come up. 

478
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320
When I started getting more 
heavily into designing courses, 

479
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,120
they called me out to do a, a, a
course up there a little 9 hole 

480
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:32,640
or sorry, it was a nine hole 
executive golf course. 

481
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,320
So it was like par 3 style of 
golf course. 

482
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,680
So there was enough room to put 
in. 

483
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,840
I would call it more beginner 
friendly. 

484
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,840
It's a little technical, but 
more beginner friendly. 18 hole 

485
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,920
disc golf course on MacArthur 
Island is what it's called. 

486
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,720
It has now been coined Emac 
Island, at least that's what I 

487
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,920
call it because why wouldn't I? 
But no, and, and to answer the 

488
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,040
other question, I am totally not
opposed to traveling outside of 

489
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,040
the US to design courses. 
And you know, obviously my main 

490
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,000
goal in course design is an emac
course in all 50 states is kind 

491
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800
of like a, a huge goal that I 
would love to be able to 

492
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,360
accomplish. 
It's going to be very 

493
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,280
challenging, but I think I'm at 
29 right now, so I'm over 

494
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,840
halfway there. 
I got some difficult states out 

495
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,320
of the way, but I got some 
difficult states to cross off as

496
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,040
well. 
But that's my main focus. 

497
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,200
But if somebody from, you know, 
a Sweden, a Finland, Germany, 

498
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,200
wherever called and said, hey, 
we want to do this, you know, 

499
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,680
obviously it'd have to make 
sense financially for me to do 

500
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,640
it. 
Yeah, I'm not opposed. 

501
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,160
I would love to do that. 
Well, what makes the estate more

502
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,480
difficult than others? 
I think history, size, land 

503
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,680
available, you know, like a 
California is really tough to 

504
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,200
get into 'cause there's a lot of
red tape you got to get through.

505
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,720
But I do have a course in 
California, Riverside Park, 

506
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,800
Martha McClain down in 
Riverside, CA rather. 

507
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,720
And then, you know, states like 
Delaware, Connecticut, you know 

508
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,800
that those are going to be tough
ones to get courses into 'cause 

509
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800
they're, there's so much city 
and they're, so you know, 

510
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,280
they've, they've probably got 
courses in almost every park And

511
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,400
it's just, it's just tough. 
It's just tough in those smaller

512
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,560
states to get in the door there.
I mean, I know that you have to 

513
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,840
deal like there's no I oh 
really, I could be wrong, but 

514
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,280
there's no like general rules or
laws that govern the entire 

515
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,040
United States when it comes to. 
So most of your quote, UN quote 

516
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,840
red tape is more local, regional
things that you have to like. 

517
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,840
Correct. 
Like what California think of 

518
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,600
California, the red tape. 
There is insurance, you know, is

519
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,080
this course going to be insured?
We can't. 

520
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,200
We got to worry about someone 
getting hit by a disc. 

521
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,200
And who are they going to sue? 
Are they going to sue the city, 

522
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,280
the state? 
The park? 

523
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,640
So do you think, excuse me, do 
you think overseas is going to 

524
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,560
be even more challenging? 
I, I would assume so because I 

525
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,880
mean, obviously I'd have to, I'd
be working there. 

526
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,400
So I'd have to figure out what 
type do you have to get like a 

527
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,440
work visa to do those kind of 
things. 

528
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,040
So there's, I haven't looked, 
you know, maybe I'll talk to 

529
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,680
Avery about that. 
We have an in our PA trip coming

530
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,280
up but he does a lot of courses 
overseas but I know he does a 

531
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,440
lot with the Paul Macbeth 
Foundation though on his courses

532
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,040
overseas so I don't know if 
those are all. 

533
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,200
Under the foundation. 
Under the foundation and pro 

534
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,760
bono, right or what the 
situation is there interesting. 

535
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,160
Yeah, it is. 
It's very interesting. 

536
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,320
But yes, to answer that the 
question, I would love to have a

537
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,760
course in Europe somewhere. 
I think that be really cool. 

538
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,120
All right, Tyler has a duo of 
dynamic questions for a dynamic 

539
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,440
duo. 
First, we'll start with Eric. 

540
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,760
Eric, I know that you are 
obviously a member of Hashtag 

541
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,760
Team EMAC Judge. 
Your name is on it, for God's 

542
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,800
sakes. 
I know I'm a ride or die Team 

543
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,080
Marshall. 
Any chance of it getting back 

544
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,640
into production? 
I'm running low on my stock of 

545
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,680
prime Marshalls for putting and 
throwing. 

546
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,920
Uh oh. 
Well, we literally just released

547
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600
the Marshall's last ride. 
Oh yeah, so you better the last 

548
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320
ride or you? 
Better you better launch onto 

549
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,880
those bad boys because that more
than likely will be one of the 

550
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,440
last trends we're going to see 
of the Marshall. 

551
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,160
When was that put out? 
Like like. 

552
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,000
Fairly recent, very recent I 
think. 

553
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,880
I don't even know if it's 
released retail yet. 

554
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Let's see. 
I'm going to look it up, 

555
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Marshall. 
Awkward. 

556
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,680
Yeah. 
Awkward. 

557
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,280
No. 
OK, seven days. 

558
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,760
So 7 days from today, The. 11th 
7 or No 911. 

559
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,080
Oh, I I think you did. 
You show me that stamp. 

560
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,320
I can't remember if you show me 
that earlier. 

561
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,600
Yeah, it's got. 
The little tombstone with the 

562
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,440
cowboy hat. 
'Cause it's is it like 'cause 

563
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,840
it's got the Halloween colors 
is. 

564
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,640
It that one is like Halloween 
colors. 

565
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240
No, it's not really. 
I mean, it's, it could be. 

566
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,320
It could be because it's like 
dark and it's a grave site. 

567
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:53,360
Yeah. 
He's. 

568
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Dead. 
OK, so and these are the, these 

569
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,160
are clothic classic soft orbits.
They look fantastic. 

570
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,960
They look beautiful. 
And it's not just like the 

571
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,840
white. 
Some of them have the white 

572
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,480
flight plate and different color
rims, but some of them are all 

573
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840
different colors, like orange in
the middle, black in the middle,

574
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,520
pink in the middle with blue 
rim. 

575
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,760
So yeah, they they look 
fantastic. 

576
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,320
Seven days from basically today,
right? 

577
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,760
What's today? 
No, today's Wednesday. 

578
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,800
So a week from tomorrow on 9/11,
you can pick those bad boys up. 

579
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,160
Stock up, my friend. 
Stock up my friends. 

580
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Like, can you bring it back? 
You're like, yeah, we did. 

581
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Yeah, we. 
Won for you? 

582
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,640
Yeah, just this is just for you.
One more run. 

583
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,040
That's crazy. 
All right, so let's talk about. 

584
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,040
You had one more question. 
Oh, that's right, yeah. 

585
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,440
It was the duo. 
The duo. 

586
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Sorry. 
OK, this question is for me 

587
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Bobby. 
I'm starting my YouTube channel,

588
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Go and Grow Disc Golf. 
Nice dude. 

589
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560
My hope is to inspire people to 
just get out there and play disc

590
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,160
golf. 
I plan to share things that help

591
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,640
my game grow while showcasing 
Dynamic Discs in the process. 

592
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,800
And sweet thank you for doing 
that question. 

593
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Do you think short form videos, 
YouTube shorts or or Instagram 

594
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,760
reels are a must for success or 
will high quality long form 

595
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,600
videos be enough? 
I have plans for different types

596
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,520
of video series but wanted to 
hear your thoughts. 

597
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,200
So the question is, do you think
short form videos are a must or 

598
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,360
high quality long long form 
videos? 

599
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,680
Both, both. 
I mean that's is that right? 

600
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Yes, it is. 
'Cause you could take the long 

601
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,920
long form videos and cut it up 
into yes. 

602
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,800
So here's what you got to think 
of. 

603
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,760
You have to in a sense, you have
to think of yourself as and 

604
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,040
think of YouTube, Instagram, 
TikTok, Facebook, whatever. 

605
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,720
Those are distribution channels.
So you have a message that you 

606
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080
want to put out there. 
These are your distribution 

607
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,000
channels. 
Just like if a movie gets out, 

608
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,080
their distribution channels are 
the movie theater, the DVDs. 

609
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,440
If we do, people still do DVDs. 
So the. 

610
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840
VHS. 
The V No, definitely not VHS. 

611
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,720
And then of course the streaming
services and then of course the 

612
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,080
digital downloads where you pay 
to watch it and then it becomes 

613
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200
and then it doesn't eventually 
end up on Netflix anyway. 

614
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,400
My point is, is that the YouTube
long form is just a different 

615
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,880
way to put your message out 
there in a long format where you

616
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480
can do it either slow or do a 
really quick cut, cuts and 

617
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,440
edits. 
Whatever your style is, go for 

618
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,800
it. 
The shorts is a different way of

619
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,080
telling a similar story or 
breaking up your story into bite

620
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,120
size. 
Now, as far as, OK, I'm going to

621
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,640
go in the weeds here for a 
little bit, but as far as even 

622
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,800
your Instagram account, you have
to think of Instagram Reels as a

623
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,680
way of getting outside of your 
follower bubble because they 

624
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,040
tend to show Instagram Reels to 
people that don't follow you or 

625
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160
people of interest. 
Like if they're interested in 

626
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
disc golf or interested in 
cooking, they're going to start 

627
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080
pushing out those particular 
Reels well. 

628
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,400
I was going to say a good 
example of that is that when you

629
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,640
are on Instagram and you click 
the reels and start scrolling, 

630
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,360
majority of the time you're not 
following those reels that 

631
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,680
you're seeing. 
Right, yeah, and that's The 

632
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,040
thing is that YouTube long form 
your YouTube channel is is more 

633
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,640
of a like I want to find when 
you the the the habits is I want

634
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960
to look up this particular 
topic. 

635
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Either it's disc golf 
tournaments, disc golf education

636
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:15,480
or cooking or political stuff, 
the news or whatever you're into

637
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,680
you disc. 
Golf answer, man. 

638
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Disc golf answer man, video 
gaming, you actually look for 

639
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,880
that. 
But when you think of reels in 

640
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,480
in, in other words, you are, you
are seeking out the content. 

641
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,560
But if you think of Instagram 
reels and YouTube shorts, that's

642
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720
more of the platform feeding you
the content. 

643
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Because if you think about it, 
like you said, if you're just 

644
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,200
thumbing through shorts and 
thumbing through reels, you're 

645
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,280
just literally watching thumb 
up, watching thumb up, watching 

646
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,160
thumb up and it's pushing it out
to you what it thinks it you 

647
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440
want to watch. 
And then it learns from that. 

648
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,120
So if you stay on a video longer
or you tend to watch this topic 

649
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,200
a little bit longer than others,
they're going to feed you more 

650
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440
of that. 
That's like a lot of 

651
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,080
information. 
So I would say your best bet to 

652
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,720
start out is to put together 
your long form YouTube videos, 

653
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,240
tell your story there and then 
take it and create bite sized 

654
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,320
chunks. 
Don't don't just literally cut 

655
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,280
things and put it on YouTube 
Shorts. 

656
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,040
Make the YouTube shorts its own 
thing. 

657
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,360
But you can grab that content 
from your long form, if that 

658
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,560
makes sense. 
Yeah, totally. 

659
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,640
So that's a good thing. 
And good luck to you. 

660
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,840
And let us know what your 
YouTube channel is so I can. 

661
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Tag it out, tag us in it. 
Yeah, tag us in it and yeah, I 

662
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,480
think that's awesome. 
We were. 

663
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Going to talk about the drift 
now. 

664
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,560
Let's do the drift. 
Let's do the drift. 

665
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,720
Is that the new dance move? 
Yeah, do in the drift. 

666
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,160
It's where you float on the 
water. 

667
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,200
You float on the water so the 
drift is in four molds now. 

668
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Tell us the story. 
I tried to tell a story on the 

669
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,760
live updates earlier today. 
Tell us the story cause drift is

670
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,520
not a new and if you've been a 
long time follower you know 20. 

671
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,680
15. 
Was not new to us. 

672
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Yeah. 
So we came out with the idea to,

673
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,160
to come out with a floating 
plastic is what we, we wanted to

674
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320
'cause there wasn't a whole lot 
on the market at the time for 

675
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,600
discs that float and a lot of 
people were losing discs, 

676
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,640
especially on courses like we 
have here in Emporia where 

677
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,160
there's a lot of water. 
So we came out with the idea to 

678
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Drift Plastic was a great name, 
like just such a great name for 

679
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,440
plastic that, that floats in 
lightweight and all of that. 

680
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:29,040
We came out with the witness in 
Drift and and to say it was a 

681
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,720
failure is an understatement. 
I would say the plastic was 

682
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,880
terrible. 
If I recall, it was sticky. 

683
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,800
Almost remember that like 
they're they're they're for a 

684
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800
while they were selling them as 
like, hey, we've screwed up 

685
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,680
here. 
Just take these. 

686
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Let's see if anybody wants these
as like a whatever, beside the 

687
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,440
point. 
But I remember them being in 

688
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,880
bags and they would like stick 
to the bags. 

689
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,240
It was just terrible, just 
gross. 

690
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,440
But yeah, so we kind of pushed 
it back to the the drawing board

691
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,920
on that. 
And, and then a couple years, 

692
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,400
year and a half, two years ago 
now, Latitude 64 came out with 0

693
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600
gravity and we're like, wait, 
that flows too. 

694
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Maybe we should revisit the 
drift and the drift plastic's 

695
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,360
actually a little different 
formula than 0 gravity. 

696
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,440
So it is it's not the same 
plastic. 

697
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,840
It feels similar, but but 
honestly, these, you know, when 

698
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,840
I told some people in our brand 
department that we were getting 

699
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,480
some drift discs and they're 
like, that sounds terrible, like

700
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,280
from the history of it and plus 
the zero gravity stuff. 

701
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,560
And as soon as they felt this 
like, wow, these, these actually

702
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,960
feel pretty good, right. 
So that's kind of like the the 

703
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,880
short story, I guess on on what 
drift was, but we wanted to 

704
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,000
bring it back because it was a 
great name and a great product 

705
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,199
as long as we could, you know, 
replicate this, which we've done

706
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:50,920
successfully. 
And right now we have them 

707
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,199
available in the Sergeant, the 
escape, the evidence in the emac

708
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,560
judge and depending on 
popularity, we're going to plan 

709
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,200
to release some more molds in 
this. 

710
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,560
The two that I think I have 
slated for next year are a 

711
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,280
Maverick, which would be great, 
and a Trespass, which. 

712
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,160
Would be awesome. 
So the cool thing about yes the 

713
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,440
the big feature is that they 
float on water. 

714
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,080
So if there's a hole that you 
play that there's a pond or a 

715
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Creek or something nearby that 
you tend to kind of avoid, don't

716
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,880
avoid. 
Now you don't have to avoid grab

717
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,040
one of these. 
And if it goes into the water 

718
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,680
now obviously the goal is for it
to not land in the water, 

719
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,920
obviously correct. 
But if it happens to go into the

720
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,920
water, it's going to float. 
Now, another feature that we 

721
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,760
really think exciting is that a 
lot of or some feedback that 

722
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,640
I've seen is people want a lot. 
There's a group of people that 

723
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,360
want lighter weight discs. 
Well, these suckers are 127 on 

724
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,600
128 around that that weight. 
And so they are very light. 

725
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,720
And yesterday when we did the 
video, I literally said, man, 

726
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,080
you don't have to use this much 
power. 

727
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,560
And Eric was like, exactly 
finesse these pull back on the 

728
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,280
power and you'll still let the 
literally let the disk do the 

729
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,200
work. 
And so if you're kind of like 

730
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,680
me, where you've got a slower 
arm speed or even if you're 

731
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,960
thinking, 'cause I, I've even 
talked to some players where as 

732
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,480
they play around and they get to
like the round two, their 

733
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,640
shoulder gets kind of worn out. 
And so they kind of they, they 

734
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,040
change their disc a little bit 
based on not having to throw 

735
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,080
with, yeah, fatigue with not 
having to throw with so much 

736
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,720
power. 
To me, that's what these are 

737
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:26,200
good for. 
So, yeah. 

738
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,320
So I don't know where I was 
going with that. 

739
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,320
I completely lost my. 
Thoughts. 

740
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,720
I mean, it's great for everyone,
not not everybody, I guess, but 

741
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:36,280
it they are great for for 
beginners players that do have 

742
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,800
lower arm speed. 
Now, probably not the best disc 

743
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,520
to grab when it's going to be a 
windy day, you know, unless it's

744
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,000
a tailwind, I guess. 
But yeah, the drift plastic, I 

745
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,360
think it's going to be, it's 
going to be great for starter 

746
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,960
sets, you know, things like 
that. 

747
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,320
If you have a someone that 
you've been trying to introduce 

748
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,720
to the sport, I mean, we're 
going to have a a starter set 

749
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,360
with these in it at some point. 
And yeah, pick them up for them.

750
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,080
I'm going to, I'm going to plan 
some, get some people out here 

751
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,320
at the warehouse that that don't
play a lot of disc golf, but 

752
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
have played before and I want to
get them on video throwing 

753
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,320
because I think they'll be 
pleasantly, pleasantly surprised

754
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,640
at the flight for them. 
Totally. 

755
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,920
Now we're talking about these 
very early because these aren't 

756
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,120
available until the beginning of
October to stores. 

757
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,920
Yeah, I guess it is just a month
and then soon after that 

758
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,160
available to retail. 
So we're gonna be put out more 

759
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080
info on that so you can get a 
little more info on it totes. 

760
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,080
Let's see. 
Last question O the day comes 

761
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,320
from Paul Sampson and this one 
might be a doozy. 

762
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,640
I like doozies. 
Bobby, since you're a big media 

763
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,640
guy, I wanted to ask about the 
whole AI that's artificial 

764
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,160
intelligence. 
OK, I was I've seen Terminator. 

765
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Sarah O'Connor, the whole AI 
controversy within our sport. 

766
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Does a dynamic disc have artists
you work with? 

767
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,400
Do you foresee dynamic discs 
using AI for future projects? 

768
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,960
All right, so this is like a 
loaded question, 'cause there 

769
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,320
has been a lot of controversy 
out there and the people that 

770
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,000
don't like it have really made 
themselves known. 

771
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,280
There are, I will have to say, 
and just was anything. 

772
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000
It seems like the squeaky wheel 
gets all the attention right? 

773
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,960
That's true. 
But there have been people that 

774
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,080
are like, what's the big deal? 
It's literally part of everyday 

775
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,720
life. 
Now it's not quite part of 

776
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,960
everyday life, but they're 
that's kind of the sentiment is 

777
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,680
like, not sure the big deal. 
So here's my thinking is that do

778
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:49,600
I use AII, use AII, use chat? 
Yes, I use Chat Beat GPT to help

779
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,240
me organize and structure. 
So a lot of times when I have an

780
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:56,560
idea, I'll type up an idea when 
I'm brainstorming, I'll script 

781
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,640
it out and then I'll give it to 
chat and I'll say, help me 

782
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,640
structure this, give me some 
suggestions and I'll like, oh, 

783
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,440
that, that's actually I hadn't 
thought about that. 

784
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,160
And I'll put it in my script or 
put it in my idea or if I have a

785
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,000
phone call and I write down my 
notes, I'll give it to them and 

786
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,120
give it to them, give it to chat
and have it give me it in a 

787
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,760
outline structure. 
So I use AI for that. 

788
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,280
Have I used AI in any of my 
videos? 

789
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,920
What here's what's interesting. 
I actually have Premiere Pro and

790
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,200
This is why I get This is why I 
don't know how to explain it. 

791
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,200
But like the whole AI in our 
work that we do. 

792
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,600
So like Premiere Pro has a a 
feature and even cap cut and 

793
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,560
different software has features 
where the AI helps with audio. 

794
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:48,160
So like if your audio isn't so 
good it's literally AI trying to

795
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,560
help. 
Artificial intelligence. 

796
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,320
Yeah. 
Thank you. 

797
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,680
You're welcome. 
It's trying to help where the 

798
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,120
voice sounds more clear and it 
gets rid of the background. 

799
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:04,320
That's that's AI, right? 
I think that's that's different 

800
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,680
though than. 
What I know that's what I'm 

801
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,640
getting there, I think, but I, 
I, yeah, I'm getting there. 

802
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,600
In fact, what I'm and then 
there's actually a new feature 

803
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,480
that's in still in beta mode 
where like, so let's say you 

804
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,720
have a scene of you or anything 
and you like, man, if I just had

805
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,920
two more seconds of that scene, 
it would make the cut in the 

806
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,400
edit so much better. 
You literally can do called 

807
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,000
generative video and you can 
tell it to try to make up to 2 

808
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,360
seconds longer of your scene. 
Do it now for this I. 

809
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Don't Maybe, maybe I maybe I'd 
do that. 

810
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Maybe I'd do it real quick and, 
and show it on the video because

811
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,720
I, I, I don't have the beta 
version yet, but maybe I can 

812
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:46,840
have access to it and I want to 
try it. 

813
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,720
Yeah, just the alpha. 
And so, but that's to me, is 

814
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,840
that cheating? 
Because to me it's like, you 

815
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,800
should have just filmed longer 
'cause I don't know how many 

816
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,080
times I've been filming and I 
hit end on the record and 

817
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,120
something fun happens or funny 
or something. 

818
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,280
I'm like, now it can't make up 
things. 

819
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,840
It's just going to kind of like 
extend your scene. 

820
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,520
So I have to, I'm going to have 
to experiment with it. 

821
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,520
So anyway, the point is that AI 
is in stuff that we do a lot 

822
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,640
already. 
And I bet, I would bet money 

823
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,320
that nine out of the 10 times 
that you've watched content 

824
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,160
nowadays, you don't know what 
you just watched is AI. 

825
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,160
And it is AI. 
Now, there's some words like you

826
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,880
can obviously tell right there, 
you can tell obvious, but I have

827
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,840
a feeling there's things out 
there that you've watched that 

828
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,160
you did not realize that AI 
played a part in it. 

829
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Now, I don't like the idea of AI
stealing an artist's job, right?

830
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,600
You're seeing all kinds of 
headline that are being 

831
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,360
sensationalized where I just saw
one something where Salesforce 

832
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,720
or some software service just 
laid off 4000 employees because 

833
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,000
they said the head of the place 
said AI can do the job of these 

834
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,920
4000 employees. 
Now I don't know if it's 

835
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,840
sensationalized or if it's a 
true headline. 

836
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,600
I quickly saw it and didn't read
the whole article. 

837
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,120
So that's not a good thing, 
right? 

838
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,320
That's not a good for AI to take
people's job. 

839
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:17,600
And so no, I don't think it's, I
don't think it's right for 

840
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:24,560
companies to simply just rely 
only on AI to create artwork and

841
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,320
stamps. 
Do I think AI can aid someone in

842
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,480
it? 
I think it's OK. 

843
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,680
That's my opinion. 
I've seen a few opinions where 

844
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,200
people are like if there's any 
AI in it, then you've taken 

845
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,920
someone's job. 
But I think AI the. 

846
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Person that's creating the AI 
just typing it into the. 

847
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,600
Well, they say who who said it? 
I think Temp said that he read 

848
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,960
somewhere that AI is not what 
did he how did he say? 

849
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,440
AI is not going to take the 
wait, AI is something to do or 

850
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,680
like if you don't know AI, then 
you're definitely going to be 

851
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,720
out of a job because the people 
that know AI and how to 

852
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,400
implement it in their job are 
the ones that are still going to

853
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,520
have jobs. 
I don't know, what are your 

854
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,640
thoughts? 
Artificial intelligence. 

855
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Oh, I like I I don't know, I'm 
torn on it. 

856
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,320
I think you've. 
Seen it right. 

857
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,880
This what they're talking about?
The stamp that was put out. 

858
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,000
Yes, I have seen it yes and it 
it I yes, it was probably AII 

859
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,040
don't know. 
I don't know. 

860
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,880
I can't. 
I can't say a. 100% I don't 

861
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,960
think no one's definitively said
it is. 

862
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Yeah. 
But gosh, I don't, I don't even 

863
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,560
know where to go with this 
statement like and and pain 

864
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:41,960
artists. 
And to answer your question, 

865
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,600
yes, we do have a couple graphic
artists on staff dynamic and we 

866
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,680
also have a hand folding that we
work with outside of of DD. 

867
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,680
So I, and as the product 
manager, I am the one creating 

868
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,920
kind of the stamps, I suppose, 
or at least the idea for the 

869
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,000
stamps. 
And I send those over to, to our

870
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000
two graphic designers. 
And they come up with the ideas 

871
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,320
if, if they think they can 
attack it or if they want to 

872
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,400
hire someone else out to do it. 
If they hire someone else to do 

873
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,160
it, who's to say this person's 
not using AI as and, and here's 

874
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,240
the other thing. 
In my opinion, it's going to be 

875
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,760
really. 
Hard in the future. 

876
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
To tell the difference, right. 
Yeah. 

877
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080
It's only gonna get better. 
I guess you would say that yeah.

878
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,800
You always have to think what 
you. 

879
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,440
Just saw is literally the worst 
it'll ever be 'cause it'll only 

880
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,520
get better. 
That's that's crazy to think 

881
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,120
about and I'm. 
I'm all for paying artists and 

882
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120
and that which we do here, you 
know, that's any design I've 

883
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,000
ever come out with has been from
an artist or or someone that I 

884
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,160
had draw it up, you know, so I'm
a firm believer in that. 

885
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,920
I don't, I don't know, man. 
It's, it's a, it's a weird 

886
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,920
situation and I'm not super 
familiar with all the AI stuff 

887
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,080
aside from even in Gmail that, 
you know, you type it up. 

888
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,400
You want me to what is it 
called? 

889
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,760
A Gemini? 
Yeah. 

890
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,440
They'll like clean it up for 
you. 

891
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,320
The whole thing that's that's 
basically AI, right? 

892
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Different voice than yeah. 
So there's a lot a lot of it out

893
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,920
there and I think I think 
there's some good use for it. 

894
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,720
I just, I just, I prefer not to 
see it on artwork on discs. 

895
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,800
Yeah, I mean 100%. 
It does it. 

896
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,360
Definitely artwork. 
There's definitely. 

897
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Something to be said to where 
it's going. 

898
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,800
I don't want everything to 
become generic and bland. 

899
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,000
And that's what it feels like 
when we're using AI right now is

900
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,240
that it becomes generic and 
bland. 

901
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:43,160
And we use AI to, to hurry up 
the process and to a cheap, you 

902
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,640
know, a cheap way of getting to 
the end product, which is an 

903
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,320
image. 
But I think in the end, that's 

904
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,280
where going the cheap route will
cost you. 

905
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Right now. 
I get nervous. 

906
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,080
No, I don't get nervous. 
But I've thought about it like 

907
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,360
as far as like even video 
editing, right? 

908
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,200
I mean, there are services out 
there where I'm, I can plug in. 

909
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,080
And I've tried it with the disc 
golf answer, man. 

910
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,160
I've tried it with a couple of 
our challenge videos where I 

911
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,200
gave it to, I think it's called 
Opus clips and a couple others, 

912
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,400
'cause I just want to learn. 
I want to see how it is and it's

913
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,520
just not that good. 
It doesn't it, It picks 

914
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,960
sometimes it picks the right 
moments, but I still have to go 

915
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,880
in and edit it. 
So it still has to be a human 

916
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,800
involved. 
Now, I do like when it gives me 

917
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,720
the transcripts. 
I do like when it gives me 

918
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,520
summaries and then I can take 
that summary and I can rewrite 

919
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,960
it. 
So it's it's definitely a useful

920
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,800
tool for me, but I don't see it 
as a tool for our graphic 

921
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,320
designers or artists where we're
just going to go, hey, we're 

922
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,240
just going to tell AI to create 
the image of a trespass stamp 

923
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:46,520
and then put that on a stamp. 
I don't ever see any part of me 

924
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,120
making the decision of saying, 
yes, that's a good choice. 

925
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,480
Right. 
Agreed. 

926
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,120
Yeah, I, I. 
Agree with that. 

927
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Now 10. 
Years from now, dude, I don't 

928
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:03,480
even I could AI all of a sudden 
have a style and tone and, and 

929
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,840
to where it is kind of like an 
artist. 

930
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,320
I don't know. 
That's weird to think because 

931
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,520
right now AI is just what a 
learning language model. 

932
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,280
It's just I've understood it as 
it's just predicting based on 

933
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,440
based on its ability to know and
search what's out on the 

934
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Internet. 
And so it's just giving you the 

935
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,840
logical answer to things. 
That's why to me, what's 

936
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,800
organization, organizing and 
summarizing and structure is 

937
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,240
makes sense, but it's not. 
Some people said it's not 

938
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,080
literally artificial 
intelligence. 

939
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,640
It's not sentient. 
It's not a a thing that really 

940
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,720
can think for itself. 
It's just predictive. 

941
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,320
It's just predicting what would 
be the next thing to say would 

942
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,320
be the logical answer to what 
you're asking. 

943
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,840
It's not a a mind where it's 
thinking for itself, right? 

944
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,280
Interesting, But do you? 
Think we'll get to there? 

945
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,640
I think we will get there 
sometime. 

946
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,000
It's scary, it's so scary, it's 
so scary. 

947
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,120
It is very controversial and it 
touches based on in disc golf 

948
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,520
because of the art, art, art 
stuff that's going out there 

949
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,760
'cause it is. 
I mean, I've had fun with it. 

950
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,320
I've done things where I've 
uploaded a picture and had it 

951
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,320
made me grow a big Afro. 
I've done that. 

952
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,800
Interesting, I've done one. 
Where I had me and my. 

953
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Wife and we were it was a 
picture where we're just kind 

954
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,120
of, you know, like a selfie 
picture. 

955
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,680
We were on vacation and it was 
Grok, which is XS or Twitter's 

956
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,720
AI Elon stuff. 
And it said it said I, I loaded 

957
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:47,360
it and it said make a fun scene 
and it it shows me and Misty 

958
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,920
looking at each other and then 
it shows Misty body slamming me 

959
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,840
into the water. 
That's so weird and I showed it.

960
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,640
I showed it to her and I was 
laughing. 

961
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,120
She goes don't ever show me that
again and don't ever do that 

962
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,960
again with our pictures. 
Now. 

963
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,440
She wasn't like super mad, but 
she was it was just one it it's 

964
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,880
a weirdness. 
It is weird. 

965
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,360
It it, it's going to. 
Mess with our head and. 

966
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,920
Distort our brains. 
Yeah, it's going to. 

967
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,040
Yeah, it's. 
Scary like even. 

968
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,560
Cap cut if you edit in cap cut 
now I can go in there and it'll 

969
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,240
recognize a face and I can say 
make my make my jaw thinner, 

970
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,880
make my eyebrows this make my 
eyes smaller, bigger, make my 

971
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,200
nose smaller. 
So weird. 

972
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,000
I don't like that it's. 
It's. 

973
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,120
I know, I know. 
But it's like. 

974
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,520
When you're, you're going to be 
watching. 

975
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,000
Something and you're going to 
think, am I really watching what

976
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,320
that person looks like? 
Like this episode of the Disc 

977
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,600
Golf Answer Man. 
It's not real. 

978
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:43,720
It's not real as we melt. 
Well, even even that one photo 

979
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:46,840
that I put us. 
Where I did the baby emac and 

980
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,640
the baby Bobby. 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was 

981
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,200
somewhat. 
AII. 

982
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,400
Would say so yeah, that was 
taking our. 

983
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,600
Images and and. 
And and predicting what we would

984
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,960
look like as as babies. 
I like that. 

985
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,720
I like that part and then 
having. 

986
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:02,840
US talk and stuff. 
So. 

987
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,240
I don't know it it is. 
Let us know in the comments. 

988
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Yeah, with the let us know in 
the comments. 

989
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,080
What are your thoughts. 
I mean, I've read some of the 

990
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,080
thoughts going on with the 
different people using AII mean 

991
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:22,960
AI commercials. 
Tyler got got some negative 

992
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:29,360
feedback from AI using in in the
commercial with the alpaca. 

993
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,880
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

994
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,720
I thought that was I. 
Mean it was. 

995
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:32,600
I thought it was. 
Clever. 

996
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,640
I thought it was a clever way. 
Of he was just kind of like 

997
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,240
poking fun. 
At it, in a sense, yeah. 

998
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,160
It's like he's not. 
Trying to hide it. 

999
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,920
It's obvious AI. 
Well, he has a yeah, an alpaca. 

1000
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,880
Talking right? 
Anyway, I could go on and on. 

1001
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,720
About that but we won't thank 
you guys for sending your 

1002
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:51,040
questions. 
Remember disc golf answer 

1003
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,680
man.com send in your questions. 
Check out the Emac Truth. 

1004
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,440
Retooled the missing piece. 
Missing piece come stamp. 

1005
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,160
That an artist did That an 
artist did? 

1006
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,840
Yes, that an artist. 
Actually did the fusion heist is

1007
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,920
already out if you're looking 
for an overstable to stable 

1008
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,720
distance driver and then if you 
have a hole that has water and 

1009
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,280
you just want to make sure you 
have a great disc to throw over 

1010
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,240
it and not worry if it happens 
to go into water. 

1011
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,440
Check out the drift that I'm 
coming out later this October. 

1012
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,520
The only other thing I want to 
mention that we have that is. 

1013
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,840
Dropping right now are the putt 
monsters. 

1014
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,400
We have it available in the 
judge, the Warden and Emac 

1015
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,360
Judge. 
Is that correct? 

1016
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Yeah, I think it's classic blend
on the emac Judge. 

1017
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,640
The Judge, I believe was I'm not
going to. 

1018
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,560
I'm not. 
I don't have no idea. 

1019
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Oh, the plastic, I don't 
remember off the top of my head,

1020
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,760
but those 3 discs are available 
as you're watching this. 

1021
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,840
So go to dynamicdiscs.com and 
check those bad boys out. 

1022
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Perfect. 
We'll see you guys.

