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We'll pray for Paul and then 
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Lord, we thank you. 
I'm just super aware that Paul 

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and Grace have poured out a lot 
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And we just honour, honour that.
And we're so grateful for their 

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presence within the community. 
And we, we've just been thinking

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about freedom and how so much of
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we don't really know the love 
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And so I just blessed us this 
morning, the good news to really

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receive fresh revelation of how 
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Paul brings today. 
Amen. 

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Thanks. 
Yeah, I think I will. 

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I was going to say, everyone 
come come forward, but I'll come

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Grand. 
Thanks Lizzie for my third cup 

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of coffee wherever she's gone 
during lockdown. 

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We did. 
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remote tours. 
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No, because people couldn't. 
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right? 
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this kind of remote experiences.
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good. 
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One of them was with a Colombian
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holding in Colombia. 
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little baby goat kept jumping up
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And the goat was getting more 
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session, you know, and she was 
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she told us that the legendary 
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Have you you heard this one? 
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Yeah. 
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Ethiopian goat herder and his 
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cherries and are getting really 
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and he thinks, wow, this might 
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hills, you don't have a, you 
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you know, other than seeing what
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So if you see goats eating 
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to try some. 
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caffeine hit and thought, wow, 
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But you know, being a good 
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he took some of the coffee 
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and showed them to the Abbot who
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this is this is of the devil, 
this is satanic and sent him 

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away and threw the coffee 
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And then, you know, went away. 
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cherries in the fire then began 
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The beans began to roast. 
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their nighttime prayers and they
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coming from the fire. 
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collected the, the, the roasted 
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them up, made them into a drink 
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they were able to stay up all 
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supposed to stay up all night 
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And the Abbott wanted his monks 
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nightly pray vigil. 
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woke up in the morning and came 
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managed to stay awake and pray, 
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He changed his mind and he said,
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This was not of the devil. 
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Christ. 
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the church due to this story. 
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beer or something, you know. 
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Holy tradition of the church, 
Glory, John's Gospel. 

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So if you've got books, Bible 
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I'm not a big PowerPoint person.
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put together PowerPoints and 
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I don't have any of that, but I,
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look at in the Bible. 
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avoid, partly because there's 
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We'll never finish it. 
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to look at the overall themes in
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to work like ABC through it. 
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get it on the podcast where we 
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whole gospel? 
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with a couple of points, but in 
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as a starting thought to frame 
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says in John one verse, one in 
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the word was with God. 
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Why the logos? 
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is doing when it's revealing to 
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How does the Scripture reveal 
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Not just about how to live life 
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approach different questions or 
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remember, and maybe you weren't 
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remember, but John's Gospel 
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as the the last gospel to be 
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book of the New Testament to be 
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It's certainly the book with, we
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developed theology in it in the 
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it's it's the most arguably, I 
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This is the most theologically 
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Another reason why trying to go 
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take us forever. 
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have about the Gospel comes from
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church father. 
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got the major facts about Jesus 
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Matthew, Mark and Luke. 
They tell us the key points, you

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know, the summary of of Jesus 
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All of that's there. 
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towards the end of his life was 
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write a gospel. 
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grand spiritual grandfather 
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Ephesus and has been ministering
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Mary, the mother of Jesus had 
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memorials and graves, 
traditional sites, you know, in,

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If you, if you ever go and pay a
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good fun. 
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disciples, you know, in the 
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him, John, you really need to 
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least tell us so that we can 
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We need your teaching to be put 
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all of the insights that you 
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he did last time I talked a bit 
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the the Book of Revelation, when
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it says the Angel says to John, 
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the small scroll he has to write
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So what he's getting in the 
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of psychedelic apocalyptic form,
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kind of trying to get it into 
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in the Gospel. 
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gospels and that he sought to 
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Evangelion, a spiritual gospel. 
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that the Gospel of John is 
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his ministry in John's Gospel. 
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cleansing of the temple happens 
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And so Clement's angle is, well,
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making a point. 
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that is very carefully curated 
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Alexandria, another key church. 
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differences between John's 
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contradictory fashion sometimes?
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they contradict, they're not 
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taking liberties. 
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liberties with the order of 
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have an idea of the the 
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gospels. 
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point by reorganising some of 
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spiritual revelation about who 
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make everything fit together, 
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it doesn't fit together. 
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to see someone, I think Origin 
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early on making very astute 
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things. 
We think about these apologetics

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arguments about the agreement of
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as being a very modern thing. 
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do that. 
It's not how it works. 

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It's not how the Scripture 
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Angel or two at the tomb, you 
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Origin was like really, can we, 
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These are not the important 
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read the Bible and struggle with
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If this is really a book from 
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I think partly because we are 
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That's why I say this book is 
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character of God to us. 
It's not really about trying to 

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give you a blow by blow 
historical account of absolutely

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everything that happens in a 
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say that this isn't stuff that 
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point of it is not to educate us
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The point of it is to reveal 
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He says, I've written these 
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and continue to believe and in 
believing that you may have 

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life. 
That's that's why it's written. 

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It's not written so that you may
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It's written so that you may 
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faith, experiential. 
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something and experience 
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And the symbols and the 
references that are there in the

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gospel are difficult to engage 
if you don't know the back story

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because there's lots of 
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What, why is it putting it that 
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Why is it putting it this way? 
But I would say just don't worry

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about those bits. 
Read it in a way that is 

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engaging your heart and is read 
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Read it prayerfully in a way 
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That's how it was written, 
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other books of the New 
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a good way to read the whole of 
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John's Gospel, the tradition of 
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this is how you read this book. 
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It's supposed to reveal who 
Jesus, those are supposed to 

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reveal who you are in revealing 
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It's supposed to be experienced.
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my natural mind. 
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heart, something's happening in 
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just not resist that. 
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allow the Holy Spirit to do the 
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me, in forming me right. 
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do we look at the book now? 
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you, if you're new to studying 
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things to look out for that I 
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There's lots of numerology in 
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When you read the other gospels 
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curated miracles that are chosen
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so-called I am sayings of Jesus.
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sayings, but there are 7 special
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like I am the bread of life, I 
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Shepherd. 
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these phrases. 
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of others which are not in the 
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other I am sayings. 
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more about those in a moment, 
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sayings and the signs also 
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that's there's a purpose to it. 
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John 2, you get Jesus changing 
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So this is on page 1064 in the 
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it says we've got the story on 
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place in Cana in Galilee. 
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disciples and then they had no 
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you. 
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were 6 stone water jars used by 
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Jesus said fill them with water 
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they turn into wine. 
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Galilee was the first of his 
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his glory. 
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this is the first of the signs, 
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into into wine. 
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John is doing this deliberately.
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You, you notice that it says 6 
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ceremonial washing, which means 
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whole Jewish law and the system 
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purification that requires water
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A little bit like we're, we're 
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a Muslim prayer practises, 
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pray in a ceremonial way. 
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So you've got ceremonial water, 
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there's no life because wine is 
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God. 
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of the life of God because it 
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you, you have a good time. 
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So you have, they're there at 
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central point of the wedding 
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everything has been set out. 
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we've got no wine. 
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no substance. 
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critique of the whole religious 
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It's saying this whole a 
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gives you the form, but it gives
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It leaves you wanting. 
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who comes to Jesus and saying 
what must I do to receive 

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eternal life? 
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and the prophets and he said 
I've done that, but I still know

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I don't have it. 
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I've done all the things I'm 
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solved my problem. 
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in this story. 6 ceremonial jars
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They can't do it but 6 + 1 = 7. 
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He's the 7th one, right? 
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the water is transmuted into the
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natural mind. 
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best thing to come first and 
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over time. 
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you go from one measure of glory
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increasing glory. 
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Moses face, which I'll also come
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Moses covers his face after he's
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glory was fading away. 
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the Israelites to see that the 
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him. 
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you have this divine infusion at
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away and leaks out and it gets 
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Exponential growth, exponential 
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So you see, this is the first 
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attention to this first. 
This is a key entry point to 

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understanding the ministry of 
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the Gospel of John. 
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it when we see what he's doing. 
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Pharisees or they're arguing 
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argue with them, He just kind of
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he's doing, it's kind of a an 
ongoing expression of this first

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sign, water into wine. 
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situation, he transmutes it from
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into a very divine alcoholic 
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It's constantly elevating people
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state of consciousness, which is
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true reality. 
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cleansing the temple. 
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gospels, he cleanses the temple 
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it's part of what gets him 
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So he he goes and right at the 
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this direct confrontation with 
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week he's crucified. 
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the temple right at the 
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And that's once again for a 
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He's trying to say to us this 
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very important to understand 
what the whole message in the 

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trajectory of this gospel is 
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So keep it in mind. 
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the beginning. 
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keep it in mind because he's put
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This is the logic. 
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the second-half of Chapter 2, 
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you've got people selling 
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And he says, get out of here, 
stop turning my father's house 

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into a market. 
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was written. 
Zeal for your house will consume

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me. 
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you show us to prove your 
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Does this question all 
throughout John, what authority 

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does Jesus have to do and say 
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way through? 
You'll notice it comes up again 

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and again. 
By whose authority do you do 

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this? 
What gives you the right to make

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the kind of claims that you do? 
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stopped and really thought about
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He says, destroy this temple and
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days. 
That's a remarkable answer. 

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So John has Jesus driving people
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accused. 
Why are you doing this? 

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Why do you have the right to do 
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What sign can you give to prove 
you have the right to, you know,

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tell us what to do? 
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and I will raise it again in 
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And we know from the other 
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extremely confused by this 
statement because it comes up at

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Jesus trial. 
He gets accused of, of being a 

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revolutionary. 
Who's going to who that he is 

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going to come and destroy the 
the Jews temple. 

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I think, look, he's you see, 
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radical. 
He's going to blow the temple up

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or whatever they, you know, they
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this temple and I will raise it 
up. 

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So notice that he's telling them
you destroy it. 

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He's not saying I'm going to 
destroy the temple. 

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He's saying you're going to 
destroy the temple. 

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You destroy it and I will raise 
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It says the temple he had spoken
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And after he was raised from the
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And John's saying me like I, I 
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And then they believed. 
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the temple. 
He's making reference to his 

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body. 
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the sign that is going to show 
you by whose authority I say and

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do the things that I do. 
The sign is going to be this, 

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you destroy the temple and I'll 
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Super confusing. 
No wonder they they had no idea 

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what was going on. 
I've said many times, often 

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people will say the reason Jesus
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spiritual truths to ordinary 
people so that they can 

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understand them. 
But that's not what the Bible 

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says. 
The Bible says he spoke in 

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parables so that people couldn't
understand them. 

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He did it to veil truth so that 
the natural mind would be 

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confused. 
Remarkable, you'd think a 

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teacher like today. 
I'm trying to make things 

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intelligible, right? 
I'm trying to put it out in a 

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way that is that you can follow 
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But that's not how Jesus taught.
He didn't teach in a in a 

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systematic, intelligible way. 
He taught in a way that when you

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listen to him, you were 
extraordinarily confused, spun 

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around, dizzy, but yet in your 
heart you felt like this is 

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life. 
I just can't. 

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I can't explain it. 
I can't put it into any scheme 

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that makes sense to me. 
My heart is burning within me, 

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but I can't rationally make 
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That's how he taught over and 
over again. 

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And I think there's, I don't 
know who said this. 

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It was someone, some famous 
church person said, for, you 

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know, Jesus began his ministry 
by turning water into wine. 

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And the, the church has spent 
the last 2000 years trying to 

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turn it back into water again. 
So hopefully we're not going to 

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do that today. 
But this issue of destroying the

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temple, what is the temple? 
Well, we've, we've got 2 temples

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referred to here. 1 is the 
physical temple that they're in.

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And then the second one, the 
more important one, he's talking

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about his body, right? 
John tells us that his body. 

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In the Jewish scheme, the temple
is the place where God is 

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supposed to live. 
The temple is the place where 

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you come and approach the divine
presence, but you can't go fully

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into the divine presence. 
The temple is there to teach us,

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to form within us a sense of the
sacred. 

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We recognise sacred presence 
because we've got a place that 

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we can look at physically and 
identify it as this is a sacred 

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presence. 
There are sacred protocols that 

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we adopt when we go to the 
temple. 

449
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,480
All of that is supposed to 
enculturate us with the idea 

450
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,840
that OK, there is. 
God is not just ordinary, right?

451
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,160
It's supposed to create an 
awareness of the sacred. 

452
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,320
It's supposed to do something in
society, in the community, that 

453
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,800
gives us a sense of there are 
things we need to treat as 

454
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,760
sacred that we we take 
seriously, not things that we 

455
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,560
just take lightly. 
We have an intuition towards the

456
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,880
sacred, and the temple is 
supposed to do that. 

457
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640
The whole of the religious 
practise is supposed to do that.

458
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,360
But here's the the kicker. 
The purpose of building the 

459
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:19,040
temple is to destroy the temple.
So the Temple is part of the Old

460
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,280
Testament story. 
It's divine in origin, divine in

461
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,440
design, but its whole purpose is
to be destroyed. 

462
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,640
It exists so that it will be 
torn down. 

463
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,520
It does not exist so that it 
will remain forever. 

464
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,960
It's like the law. 
The Jewish law exists so that it

465
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,600
can be torn down, not so that it
remains forever in in that form.

466
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,240
That's what the Apostle Paul 
says through the law. 

467
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,360
I died to the law so that I 
could live to Christ. 

468
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,320
The Christ in his flesh 
abolished the law with its 

469
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,320
commandments and ordinances. 
So when we're looking at the 

470
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,000
temple, when we're looking at 
the the Jewish law, when we're 

471
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,280
looking at that religious 
system, which is the water in 

472
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,840
those ceremonial jars, it 
promises a lot, but it delivers 

473
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720
little to nothing and it's 
diminishing returns. 

474
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,960
The whole purpose of that is to 
be set up so that we'd get 

475
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:17,120
knocked down. 
You build the temple to destroy 

476
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:21,160
the temple. 
Like through our lives, we have 

477
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,320
all sorts of practises and 
experiences that acclimatise us 

478
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,480
to what is sacred, what is 
important to. 

479
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,080
We recognise, you know, we 
differentiate between things 

480
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,920
that are good, things that are 
not, things that are clean, 

481
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,640
things that aren't. 
But the whole purpose of that in

482
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,600
developing our intuition towards
the sacred is so that ultimately

483
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,640
it can get torn down completely.
And in the tearing down, we 

484
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,880
discover that the whole earth is
a burning Bush alive with the 

485
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,360
presence of God, that the whole 
world is the temple of the of 

486
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,600
the Spirit of Christ. 
Because in John one verse one, 

487
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,480
it is the logos who is made 
flesh. 

488
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,840
What is the logos? 
The Logos is is the divine mind.

489
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,600
It is the sometimes called the 
wisdom of God. 

490
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,320
The idea of Lagos is that the 
whole of the world emerges out 

491
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,160
of an invisible matrix that is 
the mind of the God who created 

492
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
it. 
And while we can't know the mind

493
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,000
of God directly, we can we can 
see the hallmark of the 

494
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,040
fingerprints of the mind of God 
in what God has created. 

495
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,000
So you can see something of the 
nature of the artist in that 

496
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,200
artwork. 
You learn something of the 

497
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Craftsman in their craft. 
You learn something of the the 

498
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,280
person who's designed an 
organisation in the way that 

499
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,480
they organise it. 
We talk about having values. 

500
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,600
We have a mission, you know, 
here at Hope. 

501
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,360
We have things that we value. 
Ideally you would be able to 

502
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,320
know something about the 
identity of this church by the 

503
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,280
way people act and behave. 
But the, but the values that we 

504
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,320
have are helping us get into 
alignment within those 

505
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,280
particular things that we 
prioritise as a community. 

506
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000
So the logos is what does God 
prioritise? 

507
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,040
How does God think what's going 
on in the mind of God that would

508
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,880
even mean that he would create 
anything. 

509
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,840
That's John. 
One in the beginning was the 

510
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,200
word, the logos. 
This is this divine matrix out 

511
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,280
of which everything else is. 
It's the substructure, if you 

512
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:24,440
like, of the whole of creation, 
if you like quantum mechanical 

513
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,200
analogies, maybe you would think
about it like the Higgs field, 

514
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,560
what that, that even people call
the, the, you know, the Higgs 

515
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,680
boson, the God particle, because
scientists are thinking about it

516
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
as the substrate from which all 
reality emerges. 

517
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,240
You know, why do we have 
substance? 

518
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Why do we have matter? 
And they're thinking about it in

519
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,680
mechanical terms. 
But for us, we think about it as

520
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,520
this is the Logos, this is the 
divine mind which has given rise

521
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,560
to the creation of everything. 
It matters that it is the Logos 

522
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,720
that has been made flesh, the 
divine mind, the way that God 

523
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,720
thinks, the way that God 
processes and views everything, 

524
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,960
that has been fully embodied in 
the person of Jesus Christ. 

525
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,240
So when we see him talk about 
his body as the temple, well, 

526
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,520
that actually starts to make 
perfect sense, because within 

527
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,600
him, within his physical body is
the fullness of the Godhead, 

528
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,200
right? 
Is the fullness of God. 

529
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,400
Everything, every thought that 
exists in the divine mind is 

530
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,400
within Jesus. 
He is the thought of God. 

531
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,760
He is the word of God. 
Hebrew says this is the word by 

532
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320
which God upholds the existence 
of all things. 

533
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,280
He's the very fabric of reality.
But we don't see the fabric of 

534
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,480
reality. 
We can't. 

535
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600
We can't grasp it, we can't 
conceive of it. 

536
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,640
And so we create all these 
religious structures to try and 

537
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,400
acclimatise us to it, to try and
reach for it. 

538
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,800
These are the six jars. 
We're trying to hold it somehow,

539
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,840
but we can't hold it. 
We can't contain it. 

540
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,240
Here comes Jesus containing it 
in its fullness and every place 

541
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,560
he goes into he he's constantly 
like digging up the ground, he's

542
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,760
ploughing the ground, unearthing
what's really going on under the

543
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,200
surface. 
When he says destroy this temple

544
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,240
and actually he's talking about 
his body, he's saying in at that

545
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
at that point you're going to 
see the authority that I have. 

546
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,760
I mentioned that I am sayings. 
I am the bread of life. 

547
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,120
I am the Good Shepherd. 
I am is an important phrase here

548
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,080
because this is the name of God 
in the Old Testament, God who 

549
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,560
reveals himself to Moses. 
Moses says, who are you? 

550
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,360
And God says, I am Yahweh, 
right, Jehovah. 

551
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
I am. 
When Jesus says I am, I am. 

552
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,000
I am over and over again he is 
identifying himself as Yahweh. 

553
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Sometimes people who don't 
understand this will say, well 

554
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Jesus never claimed to be God in
the New Testament. 

555
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Oh he absolutely did. 
Every time he says I am, he is 

556
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240
directly invoking the divine 
name and applying it to himself.

557
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,560
7 specific times in John's 
gospel and then at least two 

558
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,000
other times. 
Once when asked about Abraham 

559
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,920
and he says before Abraham was I
am and another time when in the 

560
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Garden of Gethsemane they say 
where is Jesus of Nazareth? 

561
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,160
He says I am and they fall to 
the ground. 

562
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960
If you remember that part. 
So there's a two additional ones

563
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,120
at least, but there are the 77 
symbolic ones and each one of 

564
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600
these is Jesus referring back to
himself. 

565
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,200
By what authority do you do 
this? 

566
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:43,840
I do it because I am. 
I am who I am as Jehovah said to

567
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Moses. 
So let me tie this together. 

568
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,800
Jesus who is I am. 
What does that mean? 

569
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,640
I am is a reference to the fact 
that he is the ground of all 

570
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,240
being. 
All the reality emerges from the

571
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,360
I am. 
That is the log offs of God. 

572
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Everything emerges from that. 
In him we live and move and have

573
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600
our being. 
The Apostle Paul says everyone 

574
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,160
and everything has a pre 
established relationship with 

575
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Jesus because he is the very 
ground of their being moment by 

576
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,880
moment sustaining their life and
existence. 

577
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,040
He is the ground of reality. 
But just to say that he's the 

578
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,680
ground of reality doesn't tell 
us what reality is like. 

579
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,080
Because if you you look around 
you can see all kinds of 

580
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320
terrible things and good things.
And we might infer that God is 

581
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,080
both good and bad if we were 
just to look at the natural 

582
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,120
world. 
But Jesus comes to show us the 

583
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,640
fullness of the character of God
that we can't see apart from his

584
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,080
physical human life. 
So the ground of being what? 

585
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,640
What this is telling us is how 
should we view the entire 

586
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,160
universe, not just how should we
view our Christian activity or a

587
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Christian experience. 
It's setting us up for a 

588
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Christian cosmology. 
What is the nature of the 

589
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,440
universe? 
What? 

590
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,760
What is the universe's origin 
and what is its destination? 

591
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Well, the answer is Christ as 
the divine Logos. 

592
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,400
Everything we see in Jesus, 
everything we see revealed in 

593
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,000
Jesus, is informing us that this
is actually how the universe 

594
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,240
works and operates. 
As Richard Raw puts it, if God. 

595
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:36,360
So if Jesus is the face of the 
Father and if God is a Trinity, 

596
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,520
therefore we are living in a 
benevolent universe, which is a 

597
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,320
remarkable statement. 
Now if you look around, the 

598
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,120
universe does not appear 
benevolent. 

599
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Nature's does not appear 
benevolent. 

600
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Supernova millions of light 
years away do not appear 

601
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,320
benevolent. 
There are many things that do 

602
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,400
not appear benevolent in the 
material world as we look 

603
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,160
around. 
As long as we're just looking at

604
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,840
those things, we will be 
deceived and confused as to who 

605
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,840
God is. 
We can't infer who God is just 

606
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,800
by looking at the natural world.
Fact as part of the Christian 

607
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,000
witnesses that there is 
something disordered about the 

608
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,800
natural world and it's a bit of 
a mystery how that happened. 

609
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,760
But when Christ comes in, he 
shows us in himself the pattern 

610
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,760
of how things were designed to 
be and actually the pattern that

611
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,360
they're still held in the logos.
It's other focused self giving 

612
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,880
love. 
It's water into wine, it's joy, 

613
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,159
it's life, it's light. 
My yoke is easy, my burden. 

614
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,600
It's like all of these things 
that life does not feel like a 

615
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,360
lot of the time. 
So whenever life doesn't feel 

616
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,800
like that, the invitation is to 
go back to the temple, the 

617
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,960
temple that is the broken body 
of Christ. 

618
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,639
That reveals to us again who He 
is, what He's like. 

619
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Because if we can catch a 
glimpse of that, we will also 

620
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,920
know that is what we are like. 
Because we are formed from Him 

621
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680
and out of Him and our life is 
held in him. 

622
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,400
It's who we're designed to be. 
All the ways in which we are not

623
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,640
like that as individuals or a 
society or anything else is is 

624
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,120
indicative of a lie that we have
believed about who we are and 

625
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
how the world is. 
We've been deceived and 

626
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:22,760
disordered into being selfish, 
prideful, violent, greedy, often

627
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,240
hearted, feeling like we have to
fight our own corners, be 

628
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,000
controlling, fearful. 
All of these things are based on

629
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,840
a lie that we are something that
we are not or that we are not 

630
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,120
something that we actually are. 
Which is the same lie that is 

631
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,880
there in the garden when the 
snake says to Eve, you know, oh,

632
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,880
you will be like God if you eat 
this fruit, even though it was 

633
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,040
already established she was 
already like God. 

634
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:55,440
So Jesus then last thought, we 
go to John 14. 

635
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,920
It's page 1082 and 1083 if you 
want to take a look at it after 

636
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,680
it's for time. 
I'm not going to read it, but I 

637
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,200
just want to mention it. 
In the Old Testament, you have 

638
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,960
this phrase that God actually 
says. 

639
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,280
No one may see my face and live.
He says that when he's talking 

640
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,920
to Moses in Is it Mount Sinai? 
No one may see my face and live.

641
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,800
Moses asks to see God's face, 
and he says you can't see my 

642
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,840
face, you can only see my back 
because no one can see my face 

643
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,880
and live. 
So there emerges this idea that,

644
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,320
well, God is we can get close to
God, but we can't get face to 

645
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,760
face with God because if you get
face to face with God, you're 

646
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,680
going to spontaneously combust. 
That's Moses's testimony, right?

647
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,080
So the glory that Moses gets, he
gets from the back of God, not 

648
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,560
from the front of God. 
Then when he goes down the 

649
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,120
mountain, that glory drains 
away. 

650
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,960
Philip says to Jesus, show us 
the Father and that will be 

651
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,240
enough for us. 
And Jesus says you've been with 

652
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,760
me so long and you've not yet 
realised if you have seen me, 

653
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,960
you have seen the Father. 
So Philip, face to face with 

654
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Jesus at the moment, at that 
very moment, has still not 

655
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,200
figured out I am actually 
looking into the face of the 

656
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Father when I'm looking into the
face of Christ. 

657
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,400
And yet I did not spontaneously 
combust. 

658
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,360
I did not dissolve away into 
nothing, going to some divine 

659
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,120
holy conflagration. 
Actually, in being face to face 

660
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,120
with him, I, my true nature has 
been rehabilitated and has been 

661
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,440
brought forth. 
The apostle Peter, the first 

662
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,240
time he meets Jesus, go away 
from me, Lord. 

663
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,120
I'm a sinful man. 
He says not six months later, 

664
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,800
he's arguing with the other 
disciples about whether or not 

665
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,400
he would be #2 in heaven. 
The greatest in heaven is 

666
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,080
extraordinary. 
You go from I'm too sinful to 

667
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,240
even look at the holy preacher 
to six months later I might have

668
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,360
a shot at being the number 2 
head honcho in the Kingdom of 

669
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480
heaven. 
What's happened to Peter in 

670
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,480
those six months? 
He's just been hanging around 

671
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,840
with Jesus. 
So what does hanging around with

672
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,760
Jesus do to us? 
How transformative is that? 

673
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:05,840
The face to faceness that Peter 
experienced with Jesus was 

674
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:12,360
liberating his true nature. 
So to be, to be true, there is a

675
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,640
fire when you look into the face
of Christ, there absolutely is a

676
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,440
fire, but it's not a fire of 
destruction. 

677
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,240
It's a fire of liberation. 
It's not a fire of retribution. 

678
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,560
It's a fire of purification, of 
refinement. 

679
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,440
It's a fire that that lifts us 
up into who we are, not a fire 

680
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,080
that burns us up into nothing 
and gets rid of us. 

681
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,880
This is the consuming fire that 
is in the face of Christ. 

682
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,760
So he says to, he says to Philip
and the others in that day, this

683
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,800
is what I'm going to finish with
because I live. 

684
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,520
You also will live on that day. 
You will realise that I am in my

685
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,320
father and you are in me and I 
am in you. 

686
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,480
So he's telling them just before
he goes to the cross. 

687
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,640
You don't understand this now, 
but in that day and that day. 

688
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,560
Next time I'll talk about 
chronological time and divine 

689
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,120
time, but I'm not going to do 
that now. 

690
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,920
But just think in that day he 
goes to the cross and then he 

691
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,320
rises from the dead and he calls
that a day. 

692
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,240
Right in that day you will 
realise not I will be in you and

693
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,280
you will be in me. 
He says In that day you will 

694
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120
realise I am. 
Remember the divine name. 

695
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,760
I am in You, I am in the Father 
and you are in me. 

696
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,360
You're going to see it then, and
this goes back to when you 

697
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920
destroy the temple and I raise 
it up again in three days. 

698
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,240
Then you will know by whose 
authority I speak. 

699
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,320
Here's his answer there in John 
14 you're going to see the 

700
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,160
authority is I speak by is my 
own authority as the very Logos 

701
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,280
out of which all of creation has
come into being in that day. 

702
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,680
You will know you are in me. 
They were already in Him. 

703
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,320
They couldn't recognise that yet
because they're still seeing Him

704
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,320
in the flesh. 
How can I be in you, Jesus? 

705
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,160
You're standing right there 
because He's the Divine Logos 

706
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,880
who upholds your very existence 
and in whom you were created and

707
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,080
designed for a good purpose 
right from the very word go. 

708
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:10,240
You're going to see that when 
you go to the cross because his 

709
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:14,480
body is broken symbolically, His
body being broken and his 

710
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,520
insides being exposed, as 
gruesome as it is, is also 

711
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,240
trying to tell us something that
the very core of Jesus is being 

712
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,160
is being revealed to us now. 
It's shining out of that broken 

713
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,120
body. 
And just as the veil is torn in 

714
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,720
the temple and ultimately the 
temple is done away with, the 

715
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:33,840
physical temple, now what we see
is the light of and life of 

716
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,600
Christ shining out in and to and
through all things, 

717
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,000
regenerating, rehabilitating, 
bringing them back into their 

718
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,480
proper designed divine order. 
And as we see many things that 

719
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,920
are disordered in the world, as 
we recognise this and 

720
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,280
participate with it, we also 
join in with reordering the 

721
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,960
world, bringing things back into
right alignment, right 

722
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,880
relationship, sorting out the 
environment, whatever it is, 

723
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160
we're participating with Jesus 
in seeing those things happen. 

724
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,400
So John is trying to, he's 
trying to draw us into an 

725
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,400
encounter with this Jesus, the 
Jesus who is the divine Logos. 

726
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,880
Right back in the prologue, this
is what he says. 

727
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,320
In him was light. 
That light was the life of men. 

728
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,760
And then all the way through we 
see the same thought is being 

729
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080
preached from different angles, 
going, it's like going round in 

730
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,440
a spiral, looking at it from all
sorts of different angles until 

731
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,720
you get this culmination in the 
cross and in the resurrection. 

732
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,000
So this is John. 
Is that too heavy for a Sunday 

733
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,240
morning? 
Let me finish and let me finish 

734
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:46,040
and pray because as I said at 
the start, this is not, this is 

735
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
actually supposed to scramble 
our brains. 

736
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,440
It's not supposed to sit, you 
know, logically and 

737
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,480
methodologically in a way that 
that feels very comfortable. 

738
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,320
It's supposed to scramble our 
natural thinking to reveal what 

739
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,720
is more true, which is 
underneath our natural thinking.

740
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,800
And that is the reality of the 
Spirit inside us. 

741
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,960
Christ in you, the hope of 
glory. 

742
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:15,880
So Father God, my prayer for us 
all is that you would reorient 

743
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,760
the furniture of our natural 
mind, that you would unearth the

744
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,440
reality that is Christ in US and
that is our union in him. 

745
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,920
Thank you Jesus, you are in the 
Father. 

746
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
The Father is in you and we are 
in you. 

747
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,880
Therefore we are in the Father 
and the Father is in US. 

748
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,600
And there just as the fullness 
of the Godhead dwells in you in 

749
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,960
bodily form, so the fullness of 
the Godhead now dwells in US in 

750
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,160
bodily form. 
Thank you that the natural mind 

751
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,440
cannot apprehend that or get 
even define its dimensions. 

752
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,800
So we just lean back into you, 
we relax into you. 

753
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Thank you, Holy Spirit, you give
us permission to just say we 

754
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:03,360
don't know, but we are known. 
Whatever situation you're facing

755
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,040
in your life today, I want to 
speak that over you. 

756
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,600
You do not know how it's going 
to work out, how to solve it, 

757
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,800
how to address it, but you are 
completely and fully known. 

758
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440
And in being known, you are 
completely and fully loved. 

759
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Holy Spirit, would you make that
truth blaze so brightly in us as

760
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,000
individuals and as a community 
that it will be impossible for 

761
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,160
us to miss it, and, if possible,
for those of us around us to 

762
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,880
miss it as well. 
And then thank you. 

763
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Thank you, everyone. 
Thanks, Paul. 

764
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,000
We've got to go and collect our 
children now. 

765
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,400
But I think one thing I think 
God's been putting on my heart, 

766
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,600
which is that, you know, Jesus 
sat at the feet of Mary and 

767
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,920
Martha was distracted by the 
diaconos, which was like, not 

768
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,480
just it. 
People think of Martha as doing 

769
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,960
the kitchen work. 
And it wasn't about being 

770
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
domestic. 
It was about being a sitting at 

771
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,000
the feet of Jesus as a rabbi, as
a learner. 

772
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,760
But in that story, actually, she
was in ministry. 

773
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,680
It was like leadership. 
It's a leadership role. 

774
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,640
She was busy doing the things of
God and she was distracted 

775
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,800
because Mary had chosen the 
better part, which was to sit at

776
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,960
the feet of Jesus, listening to 
his word, looking at him. 

777
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,440
And I think Paul talked a few 
times about this idea of being 

778
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:39,040
face to face with God, which is 
we see, you see that image in 

779
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,240
Genesis 1 and John 1. 
And So what I'd encourage us to 

780
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:49,040
do is to prioritise that sitting
at the feet of Jesus like Mary 

781
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,280
and actually taking time to look
at Jesus because we're very 

782
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:02,160
capable, prolific people and can
often miss him because we're 

783
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,720
doing extraordinary and 
interesting things. 

784
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,400
And I think he's calling us to 
Mary. 

785
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,400
He actually said she really has 
chosen the better part, the good

786
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,600
part, which is quite a strong 
statement. 

787
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,720
There's something about, I think
what what Paul's bringing about 

788
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,120
this revelation of who Jesus 
actually is and gazing upon him 

789
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,720
until we really see him for who 
he is and therefore see 

790
00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:35,080
ourselves for who we are, that 
requires us to take time to do 

791
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,000
so. 
I think I'm going to bless us 

792
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,600
with that as we go away. 
It could be we do that in 

793
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,440
community with other people. 
It could be on our own, but but 

794
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,640
actually almost like an 
intentional action. 

795
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,640
This isn't about a quiet time or
solitude or any of those things.

796
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,320
It's literally about who are 
you? 

797
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,360
Who are you, Jesus? 
I need to sit here and know who 

798
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,960
you are because in knowing who 
you are, I will know who I am 

799
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,680
and I will know who everyone 
else is. 

800
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,800
Lord, I thank you that you have.
You give us that gift of that 

801
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,360
story of Mary and Martha, and 
You make us prolific and gifted 

802
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,560
and active leaders in so many 
areas. 

803
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,880
But actually, the better part is
to sit and look at your face 

804
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,120
because that's reality looking 
at your face. 

805
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,520
And we desperately need you to 
help us to do that. 

806
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,160
We pray like Paul prays in the 
Bible that the eyes of our 

807
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,440
hearts are enlightened, that we 
may know you better. 

808
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,120
May you literally turn the 
lights on so we can see you for 

809
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,440
who you are. 
We can see ourselves and we can 

810
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,240
see everyone else the way you 
see the world, the way the world

811
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:47,440
actually is. 
We just cry out to you in this 

812
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,080
community that your kindness 
will lead us to a repentance. 

813
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:54,560
Your kindness towards us will 
lead us too. 

814
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,040
I love how Paul puts it an 
upgrade in our thinking, a light

815
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,960
bulb, just more clarity as to 
who you are. 

816
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,840
If this is true, that you hold 
the universe together, you hold 

817
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,160
us together, you hold everything
together, which I believe is in 

818
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Hebrews and Colossians. 
You say that then we need to 

819
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,880
have fresh revelation on who you
are. 

820
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,800
So we, we, we just cry out to 
you to give us that gift of 

821
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,520
fresh revelation. 
Amen.

