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All right, good evening and 
welcome to Two Hands Sanga. 

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Thank you all for being here. 
I mentioned a moment ago that 

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we're going to talk about 
something called Tilt tonight, 

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which is a video gaming 
reference, but you don't need to

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know about that. 
I was on Instagram yesterday and

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that can be a good thing or a 
bad thing depending upon how 

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long you watch a particular 
video and your algorithm changes

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and all that. 
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my algorithm was doing good and 
I had AI had some good videos 

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that I was looking at. 
And this one reel that came 

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across my timeline on there was 
this woman who was laying in bed

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talking and she's telling about 
how she had a gamer friend that 

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she used to play a lot of World 
of Warcraft with, which is a 

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video game. 
And one night they were playing 

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and he gave her some feedback 
about her gaming, just kind of a

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passing comment that she said 
not only helped her gaming in 

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that moment in the game they 
were playing, but that she said 

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that comment has been living 
rent free in her head ever 

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since. 
And that she said it kind of low

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key changed her whole life. 
She said this thing that was 

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supposed to be a passing comment
about video gaming. 

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She said it just they were 
talking about it and at the 

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moment she was really super 
tilted about this video game. 

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And that what that means is 
being tilted in gaming is when 

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you're playing along, you're 
doing whatever game is. 

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It could be poker. 
A lot of it actually is heavily 

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used in poker online, but it's 
also used in any other kind of 

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gaming. 
And if you're in a video game 

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and you get killed or you lose 
around or whatever it is, you 

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start getting a little bit angry
and you might get obsessed with 

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revenge on the player that beat 
you or the person who who's 

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round, who won that round or 
whatever it is. 

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And you become focused on 
beating that person, not winning

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the game, but beating that 
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And that's a bit of an 
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I'm sure by the end of tonight 
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you'll ever need to. 
But hopefully that makes enough 

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sense that you understand what 
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And basically what it is, it's 
obsessed with. 

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It's being more obsessed with 
winning, but less and less 

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capable of actually doing that. 
And it's becomes this downward 

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spiral. 
And so this woman said she was 

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sort of beating herself up 
talking to this guy that she 

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knew who was a really pro level 
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And and he said to her, you're a
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And he said you're just tilted 
and tilt is just being overly 

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attached to an outcome. 
And she said she was shook. 

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She said that really hit her. 
And he said you're either too 

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focused on wanting to either win
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to be able to do that, to get 
that achievement or to make that

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timing happen or whatever. 
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completely non gaming related. 
I immediately thought of like, 

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if you ever get a really full 
cup of coffee and you have to 

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walk from the kitchen to the to 
your chair or whatever and 

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you're walking and the more you 
try not to shake and spill that 

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coffee, the more that coffee is 
going crazy. 

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It's like that. 
And, and he said you're just 

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overly attached to this. 
You're focusing on winning or 

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doing the thing right or timing 
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And he said you're missing all 
of the opportunities for growth 

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and all of the chances to get 
better and all of the chances to

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improve and help other people do
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And she said she just was, she 
said that changed everything for

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her, not just in the gaming, but
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And this is the same thing that 
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much. 
And that I recently shared about

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shifting your focus from One 
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We, I did a talk a few weeks ago
about when you're, it was the 

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night that best in VR. 
How do you get back on the path 

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when somebody has pulled you off
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Of course, the answer was nobody
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You pull yourself off the path, 
but how do you get back on when 

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that happens? 
In that talk, I was talking 

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about when you're pulled off the
path, it's you're only ever one 

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step away from getting back on 
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You know, it's just a decision 
to oh, I'm headed in the wrong 

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direction. 
This is the direction I need to 

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head in. 
Boom, you're done. 

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Of course it's not that easy, 
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And the goal is exactly the same
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but your path is different. 
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awakened but be going about it 
all wrong, or you can be going 

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about it the right way. 
You still want the win, you want

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the victory, but the path 
towards that victory can be rage

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and obsession, or it can be 
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Rage and obsession is not an 
easy path and may not even get 

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you to the goal. 
Or you can focus, as she said in

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her video, on growing and 
improving and getting better and

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helping other people along the 
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And as we said last week, 
helping yourself is helping 

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others, and helping others is 
helping yourself. 

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And you can make that victory, 
whatever that is, gaming or in 

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anything in life, you can make 
that win or that victory into a 

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positive experience for yourself
and for others along the way. 

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And I thought this was 
brilliant. 

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I paused and I didn't know at 
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about that, but I saved the 
video and then I came back later

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and sort of transcribed it and 
and I was like, yeah, I think 

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I'm going to talk about this. 
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for me as well, because I do 
play video games and or a video 

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game and I me, your peaceful 
Buddhist teacher, reverend 

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friend, I get instantly tilted 
when I play population One with 

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Kristen and our friend Stoney. 
And those two squad mates of 

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mine will tell you gladly that I
am like the Tasmanian devil in 

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that game. 
I get in there, I go crazy and I

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go after everybody until we win.
And, and if things are going 

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really well for all of us, if 
we're all kind of firing on the 

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same wavelength and we all are 
working together and everything,

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and if everything's going our 
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everybody's in a great mood. 
I'm just fine. 

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But if I get killed by somebody 
in the game and then I start to 

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tilt a little bit, I'm like, oh,
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And I go after him and they'll 
res me and bring me back to 

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life. 
And then I go immediately, as 

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soon as the second that I'm 
resurrected, I go right back 

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after the fight, I go right back
to where I was, where I got 

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killed, no weapon. 
I go back and I'm just like, I'm

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on a mission at that point. 
And now I'm even less prepared 

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than I was before, but I'm still
trying to kill the people that 

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killed me. 
And so I die again and again and

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I get res, then I get RES, then 
I get res and we're a pretty 

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good team. 
We win almost, I would say most 

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of the time we win. 
So usually works out pretty 

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well. 
I chip away at the other team 

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dying a lot, but I'm winning. 
So it's like a, it's like not 

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quite a Pyrrhic victory. 
Pyrrhic victory is when the cost

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is too great for the win, right?
So it's not quite that, but it's

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close. 
And it costs my team a lot to 

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take care of me while I 
slaughter everybody in this game

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right now. 
It's I know it's ironic that I 

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play this violent game. 
And it's so funny because I was 

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thinking about this talk and I 
thought a lot about my teacher 

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today when I was kind of putting
my thoughts together for this 

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talk, because some of you might 
recall it, Bri, you might recall

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the story about my teacher, 
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She told us she did a Dharma 
talk one time where she said she

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loved to in real life before she
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fishing and she caught fish. 
She was really good at catching 

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fish and she was quite proud of 
how good she was at catching 

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fish. 
And she, she told this whole 

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story. 
She becomes a Buddhist. 

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She's got the, the retreat 
center or whatever, the 

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monastery up there with a 
venerable, her partner was a 

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venerable Panya Deepa. 
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then they would go into town and
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have dinner and whatever. 
And she saw that they had this 

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fishing game in Dave and 
Buster's where you could do 

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video fishing. 
And she was like, this is great.

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She had quit fishing because she
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want to cause harm to the fish. 
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game. 
She was like, I'm going to play 

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this fishing. 
I can fish without causing harm.

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And so she got really good at 
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She was just as good or better 
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And she did this for a while, 
and she would get so excited 

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about it and talk to Panya Deepa
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And he was a very serious guy. 
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it. 
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she was all worked up about this
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fish, you should just go fish. 
And she's like, what do you 

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mean? 
He said, well, you're doing the 

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same thing. 
She was like, no, I'm not, I'm 

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fishing. 
I cause harm this way. 

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I'm not causing harm. 
He said to your mind, it's the 

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same thing. 
You're still causing harm in 

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your mind to those fish. 
And every time I kill somebody 

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in that video game, I think 
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She would probably get on to me 
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And I know she's right, but I'm 
not ready to give up my video 

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game yet. 
But anyways, this habit of mine,

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in gaming terms, they call me a 
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It means that I go up and I 
aggressively go after everybody 

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and they'll hang back and clean 
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And I know most people here 
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but this phenomenon in to put it
into perspective for you in your

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non gaming regular daily life, 
not playing video games, there 

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are plenty of examples of tilt 
that you experience every single

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day probably. 
And one of them, a great example

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is road rage. 
If you've ever had road rage as 

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I used to have, then you 
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this. 
You expect to get somewhere 

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quickly and smoothly. 
Somebody cuts you off in traffic

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and traffic stops and or there's
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And now you're angry. 
You're getting madder and madder

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every second you're sitting 
there and you're you're 

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tailgating somebody. 
Maybe you change lanes 

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aggressively, maybe as, as, as 
our teacher friend Brother Chen,

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we said that time. 
Maybe people are waving, you're 

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waving at people with your one 
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You're obsessed with the driver 
who caused you that irritation, 

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and you might make yourself end 
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you had to just because of your 
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Or nowadays maybe getting hurt 
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people will just shoot you or 
something on the road. 

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The original problem as we hear 
right now is traffic, right? 

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Everything that comes after that
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And but you never forget that. 
By the way, never forget that 

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when you're mad at traffic, 
you're part of traffic. 

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So don't ever forget that 
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But another way, relationship 
issues that you have an argument

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with your spouse or partner and 
you want them to understand your

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point. 
You want to be right. 

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They don't understand or don't 
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That is a common occurrence in 
my life. 

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And instead of continuing to 
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instead you become increasingly 
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And you raise your voice, you 
stop listening, you bring up old

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arguments or you say things that
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this person you love. 
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understanding. 
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outcome that you want. 
Tick Nahan often said that love 

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is understanding, so if you lose
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longer in the space of love, 
right? 

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And another way is weight loss 
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I hear this one a lot and I 
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If you're trying to lose weight 
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well for some period of time. 
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scale and it hasn't changed and 
you feel like it should have. 

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And now you're like, oh screw 
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working, but they're working 
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start trying to change it and 

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tweak it and do something better
or different or you give up 

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completely and and it's all 
because the scoreboard didn't 

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show the numbers you wanted to 
show. 

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Parenting is an area where this 
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You give your child some good 
advice that you think is good 

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advice, and then they don't take
that advice. 

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And instead of continuing to 
give them stable guidance, you 

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become very frustrated with them
because they aren't producing 

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the outcome that you want them 
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you think is the right outcome 
for them. 

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And now you're not helping them.
You're trying to control them or

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guide them. 
And we do this in our jobs in 

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our effort to learn some new 
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many other different ways that 
we experience tilt or we spiral 

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out of control on it. 
And you might even be thinking 

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right now of examples in your 
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experience this. 
And we even do it with our 

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Dharma practice, with our 
meditation. 

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When you sit down and you expect
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which is a, that's a total 
delusion by the way. 

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Nobody promised that meditation 
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In fact, it shouldn't be 
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But that doesn't mean it will 
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If your meditation is peaceful 
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then you're you've got a great 
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You're not having any troubles. 
Most people don't meditate if 

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they don't need it. 
So we wouldn't be sitting here 

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if we didn't have something we 
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And so we do it in our practice.
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that peace. 
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over the place. 
And then comes your the talk 

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like settle down. 
Come on, Why can't I 

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concentrate? 
I'm so bad at this. 

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They're so good at this. 
Yesterday was so much better. 

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Why can't I just do it like I 
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Why can't every sit be as good 
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And now you're agitated and you 
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matter what because you're 
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is, is now attached to getting a
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probably not going to happen at 
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So the other reason I love this 
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of this is outside of gaming and
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it says what it is. 
Tilt kind of gives you the idea 

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of what it does to you. 
That which we frequently ponder 

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becomes the inclination of the 
heart and mind we lean toward or

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we tilt toward the direction 
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toward. 
So which which way are you 

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practicing toward happiness or 
away from it? 

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And there's a little bit of a 
difference in it because tilt in

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gaming is just bad. 
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I'm giving us on the Dharma 
approach of tilt, tilting toward

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happiness, it would be a good 
thing. 

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You want to incline toward 
wholesome. 

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You don't want to incline to 
incline towards the unwholesome.

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And the Buddha said in effect 
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tilting is not inherently bad, 
but make sure you're tilting in 

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the direction that leads toward 
lasting happiness and helping 

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other people along the way. 
There's a Buddhist suta called, 

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it's Mujima Nakaya 19. 
It's called the two kinds of 

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thought Suta, and we just talked
about this recently. 

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Before his awakening, the Buddha
said that he figured out one 

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night he was like, what? 
I'm just going to divide my 

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thinking into two kinds of 
thinking. 

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And he said, on the one hand 
I've got thoughts that lead 

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towards sensual desire, that 
lead towards ill will, that lead

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towards cruelty or that are 
coming from those and will 

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continue to go toward those. 
Or on the other hand, you have 

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thoughts that are coming from a 
place of renunciation, coming 

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from non ill will, from 
goodwill, from harmlessness, and

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those are leading towards the 
wholesome direction. 

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And he said whatever Abiku 
frequently thinks and ponders 

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upon that will become the 
inclination of his heart and 

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mind. 
Or actually he just said of his 

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mind. 
Nowadays you hear this a lot. 

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It's usually of the heart and 
mind. 

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But he was very specific on 
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Repeatedly thinking thoughts of 
ill will causes the mind to 

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incline towards easily thinking 
of thoughts of ill will. 

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So if you're always angry, it's 
going to be easier to get angry.

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If you're always happy, it's 
going to be easier to get happy.

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And that goes for everything. 
And he said repeatedly thinking 

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thoughts of ill will, you're 
going to lean that way 

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repeatedly cultivating non ill 
will or harmlessness, then 

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you're going to incline in that 
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And that's tilt 1 is toward 
unwholesome and the other toward

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wholesome. 
And when we use those words, you

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guys, I always feel like I have 
to explain it. 

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But you think you guys all know 
unwholesome just means away from

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happiness, lasting happiness and
wholesome means toward lasting 

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happiness. 
Unwholesome and wholesome 

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sometimes have a bit of a, a 
religious feel to them. 

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And that's not what he was 
talking about. 

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And so the woman in that video 
that I was talking about, she 

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was obsessed with a particular 
outcome. 

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And that's the teaching in the 
Dharma is to let go of the 

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preferences for that outcome. 
The Buddha said if you're 

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clinging to a particular 
outcome, you're already headed 

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for the wrong outcome. 
And so it's that Ajahn Chah had 

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that saying of let go a little, 
be a little bit happy, let go a 

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lot, be a lot happy, let go 
completely and you'll be 

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completely happy. 
And I forget who it was, if it 

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was Chogyam Trungpa or somebody,
but somebody once asked, people 

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have asked this of almost every 
teacher, and some teacher at 

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once was asked in a sentence or 
less describe Buddhism. 

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And their answer was let go of 
preferences. 

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And that was, that's it. 
That's the Dharma. 

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And if you don't, you're either 
going to have a really hard time

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or you may not ever even get to 
where you're trying to get to 

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because and sometimes people go,
oh, yeah, but we're not trying 

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to get anywhere. 
That's not true. 

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You have goals. 
The Buddha knew you had goals. 

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He wanted you to have a goal of 
getting to awakening. 

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He didn't want you to cling to 
being awakened. 

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That's a different thing than 
shooting for awakening. 

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So that, and that's literally 
what this talk is about South 

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Someone cuts you off in traffic,
that's just an event that 

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happens If your spouse disagrees
with you, that's just an event 

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that happens a lot, at least in 
my experience. 

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If the scale says you weigh 3 
bills, that's just an event. 

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If you lose a match in a video 
game, just an event. 

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If your mind wanders during 
meditation, that's another event

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that happens a lot. 
And whatever you do next after 

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those events, that's where 
you're either going to tilt in 

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One Direction or the other and 
hopefully you'll tilt towards 

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practice. 
And that's where the suta gets 

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more impactful. 
Here is the Buddha doesn't 

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classify those thoughts that he 
split it up to as good thoughts 

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or bad thoughts. 
He just said I've got 2 baskets 

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of thought here and one of them 
leads the direction I want to go

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and the other leads away from 
that goal. 

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And so which one? 
And he's basically was just 

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trying to recognize what's 
happening when I'm thinking am I

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thinking am I leading myself 
astray or am I leading myself 

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where I want to go? 
And that goes back to the person

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who said, how do I get back on 
the path when somebody else has 

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pulled me away? 
Nobody pulls you away. 

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They can contribute to it, make 
your life a little more 

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difficult, but you pull yourself
away. 

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You allow yourself to be pulled 
away. 

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And that's not blame. 
That's just something you need 

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to be aware of so that when 
you're practicing and you see 

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that you're tilting in that 
direction, you go, oh, I need to

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tilt the other direction and get
back on track. 

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But the Boo didn't say their 
good thoughts and bad thoughts. 

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He examined where his thoughts 
LED. 

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He recognized unskillful 
thoughts that lead to his own 

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affliction, to the affliction of
others, or both. 

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They obstructed his wisdom and 
they led away from Nirvana or 

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awakening or unbinding or the 
deathless or whatever you want 

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to call it. 
I like the deathless because it 

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sounds metal, but he anything 
was fine. 

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I, I actually, the term that I 
use the most for awakening 

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nowadays is lasting happiness. 
And it's a little bit of a play 

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on the famous jazz musician 
Wayne Shorter, who said that he 

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was trying to achieve 
indestructible happiness. 

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And I really like that. 
I like it a lot more because I 

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think it's very clear what that 
means. 

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And if you say you're trying to 
reach the deathless with 

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somebody, they're like, whoa, 
OK, all right, whatever, buddy. 

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But if you say I'm trying to 
achieve happiness that never 

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departs, that's clear to 
everybody, right? 

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Or at least clearer to 
everybody. 

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And that whole basket thing that
the Buddha was looking at, there

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is a great test to see if you 
are experiencing tilt. 

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You can say where is this 
thought taking me not am I 

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justified for being angry? 
That's what I asked myself a lot

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like my wife's telling me this. 
I think it's that am I justified

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of being angry? 
That's a waste of time. 

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Instead, you might. 
If you're in traffic, somebody 

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cuts you off. 
You might say, did that jerk 

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just cut me off and do I need to
get him back? 

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Do I need to speed up and cut 
him off? 

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Maybe the guy in traffic is 
being a jerk. 

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Maybe my wife is wrong. 
Maybe. 

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But where is that taking me? 
I mentioned in VR the other day 

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a buddy of mine who when he was 
married, newly married, and he 

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was going through a lot with his
spouse and he went to a college 

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student who was studying to be a
therapist. 

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And they have like cheap, like 
they practice for a cheap price 

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so that you can afford it. 
And they get practice and 

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everybody wins. 
And he went to this kid who to 

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him was a little kid and my 
buddy is twice his age and he 

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felt like was this kid know 
about anything? 

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How this how's this guy going to
give me any advice? 

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And the guy listened to his 
whole story, listened to his 

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wife's story. 
And then he was talking to my 

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buddy privately and he said, he 
said, listen, I'm just a 

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student. 
I'm just learning here. 

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He said, but from what I see, 
you can either be right or you 

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can be happy. 
And in other words, he was 

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saying you can fight for and win
those arguments if you want. 

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And maybe you even are right. 
Or even if you're not, maybe you

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can win the argument. 
But he's like, that's not going 

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to make you happy. 
And he wasn't saying let her 

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walk all over you and that or 
not anything like that. 

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You don't want to do that. 
You have to have boundaries in 

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life and all of that. 
But sometimes it's not worth 

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fighting about. 
And I'm not talking about just 

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relationships. 
I'm talking about anything. 

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So where is this taking me? 
What am I doing with it? 

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That's what you want to be 
checking. 

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And that first moment is just 
the event. 

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It's not the problem. 
Tilt is the obsession, or you 

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might say the actions rooted in 
the second arrow. 

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Everybody here, I think, 
probably knows about the second 

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arrow training that the Buddha 
talked about, the Salatha Suta. 

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00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,680
It's not the disappointment we 
feel legitimately. 

450
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,160
That's one thing. 
It's becoming attached to 

451
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,480
revenge, to getting your payback
or whatever. 

452
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,920
And you wanted the promotion. 
You didn't get it, and that 

453
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,640
hurts. 
You wanted the relationship to 

454
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,360
work out. 
It's not, and that hurts. 

455
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,560
You wanted your kid to make a 
different decision. 

456
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,840
They sure didn't, and that can 
be a pain. 

457
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,800
You lost, you wrecked, whatever 
The thing is, and none of that 

458
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,720
stuff happening means that 
you're attached to anything. 

459
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,840
But the revealing moment for us 
is what we do next. 

460
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,800
After we learn about the event, 
what do we do? 

461
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,240
We learn. 
Maybe if we're lucky, we grow a 

462
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400
little bit. 
That's good, help others do the 

463
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,240
same. 
If we can do that, we're doing 

464
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,000
good. 
And that's what the guy in the 

465
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,720
video was telling the woman. 
Or do I turn towards the dark 

466
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,440
side of the Force? 
Do I feed the disappointment? 

467
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,400
Do I let it begin steering the 
ship? 

468
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,720
The anger and the hatred. 
Steering the ship. 

469
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,040
And I'm using some Star Wars 
language here because it's 

470
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,240
perfect for a Darth Vader said 
give yourself to the dark side. 

471
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,360
It's the only way to save your 
friends. 

472
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800
This is very enticing. 
You want to save your friends. 

473
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,760
You have to give in, Palpatine 
said in Star Wars, give in to 

474
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280
your anger. 
With each passing moment you 

475
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,240
make yourself more my servant, 
and that's really good language 

476
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,520
for how anger and I'll will and 
stuff works within us, how our 

477
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,080
mind works actually, and that's 
Mara. 

478
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,640
That language from Star Wars is 
your Mara mind talking to you, 

479
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,920
the demon God Mara in Buddhism 
is your craving mind trying to 

480
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,360
convince you that this is the 
best way to go. 

481
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,960
The bad way is the best way, and
it never is because you can't 

482
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,600
hate your way to love you. 
You'll never wind up love in a 

483
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,240
place of love by hating 
everybody on the way there. 

484
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,960
And tilt is that outcome that 
starts compromising the quality 

485
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,800
of our response. 
And so when we talk about being 

486
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,400
attached to outcome, there's a 
difference between I want this 

487
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,480
outcome and I need this outcome 
in order for me to be happy or 

488
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,640
to be OK. 
In the Buddha's framework of 

489
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,480
dependent origination, craving 
conditions clinging. 

490
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,960
So clinging is created by the 
conditions of craving. 

491
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,560
And the canonical teaching isn't
that just having a practical 

492
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000
objective is forbidden or 
anything like that. 

493
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,480
That Buddha again encouraged us 
to have goals, but that craving 

494
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,400
and clinging to the outcome 
means that we're participating 

495
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400
in the arising of our own 
suffering. 

496
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880
We're doing it. 
Nobody's doing it to us. 

497
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,840
In another suta called the 
Upadana Suta, for example, he 

498
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,680
explicitly describes craving 
giving rise to clinging and the 

499
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,840
subsequent chain that leads 
eventually to suffering. 

500
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,800
And actually we were talking 
earlier tonight about rebirth 

501
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,600
and reincarnation and all that. 
The dependent origination ends 

502
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,560
with becoming, which is to it's 
the craving that leads us into 

503
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,240
the next life. 
Supposedly, if you believe in 

504
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200
all that takes you into the next
life and creates the conditions 

505
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,760
for what you'll be in that next 
life. 

506
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,800
So if you went into the next 
life clinging, you're going to 

507
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,400
be somewhere further down the 
line. 

508
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,800
If you went into the next life 
clinging less, you'll do better.

509
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Supposedly that's the way the 
the story goes. 

510
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,360
So if you have a goal like I'd 
like to win, you might have an 

511
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,800
attachment to I need to win 
because that's what that looks 

512
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,720
like. 
And then Tilt is saying, now I'm

513
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,160
behaving in ways that make 
winning less likely because I 

514
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,960
can't tolerate losing. 
And sadly, I know all about 

515
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,240
that. 
But the IT it's a great example 

516
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840
of what craving and clinging can
do to us. 

517
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,920
And the paradox is the 
attachment can sabotage that 

518
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200
goal. 
As we've been saying, it's kind 

519
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680
of crazy. 
My attachment to winning should 

520
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,400
make me do better at winning, 
but it doesn't work that way. 

521
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000
It usually makes me less and 
less capable of winning each 

522
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,960
time I die and come back in the 
game. 

523
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,480
To use that example, you've you 
guys have heard me talk about 

524
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,600
this. 
Sometimes I call it a duka loop,

525
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,080
which is a duka is suffering and
a suffering loop. 

526
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,680
A duka loop is suffering loop. 
A suka loop is like a happiness 

527
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,440
loop and it's pretty easy for us
to get into those. 

528
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,520
And when I talk about going down
one path or the other, you could

529
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,000
say 1 is a suka loop and 1 is a 
duka loop. 

530
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
I want to win. 
Whatever it is I'm trying to 

531
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
win, I want to win. 
I get angry if I don't win. 

532
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,480
I get tunnel vision on winning 
and I have to have my revenge. 

533
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,080
And now because I'm angry and 
I'm tilted towards revenge, I 

534
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160
make more mistakes because I'm 
less calm. 

535
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,840
I'm trying too hard and it's 
that cup of coffee I was talking

536
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,360
about. 
Now that cup of coffee is 

537
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,440
shaking because I'm walking 
extra slow and all of that. 

538
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,760
And I make more mistakes because
I'm less calm. 

539
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,280
And it goes round and round 
until I lose. 

540
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,640
Finally, permanently maybe, or I
might still win, but it cost me 

541
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,080
so much. 
I cost my team so much in the 

542
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,760
video game I might want to get 
there faster. 

543
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,240
So I drive in ways that delay me
and cause an accident. 

544
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,280
To use some of these examples. 
You. 

545
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,960
I want my wife to understand me.
I stopped listening to her. 

546
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,040
I desperately want to fall 
asleep and not be up in the 

547
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,000
middle of the night. 
Anxiety about that, about being 

548
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,240
tired the next day, keeps me 
awake even longer. 

549
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,600
And on all this stuff goes. 
And we don't have to stop 

550
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,400
playing the game of life, so to 
speak, or stop participating in 

551
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,520
life. 
We just need to stop strangling 

552
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,840
it and trying to force it to 
work the way we want it to work.

553
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Instead of obsessing over did I 
win, ask yourself if you got 

554
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,040
better. 
Instead of saying did I get what

555
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,400
I wanted, ask yourself, what can
I cultivate? 

556
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800
What did I cultivate? 
I didn't get that promotion at 

557
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920
work, but how did I respond when
they told me no? 

558
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,400
My meditation was chaotic. 
How did I practice while it was 

559
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,160
chaotic? 
My kid ignores my advice. 

560
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,520
What kind of parenting practice 
did I bring to it? 

561
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:57,160
You know. 
In that game, I play in VRI 

562
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,640
often say that in the game at 
the end when you win, there's 

563
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480
confetti and this trumpets Blair
and all this. 

564
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,160
And I often say that I don't 
care how we get there as long as

565
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,360
we get there. 
As long as we get to that 

566
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,800
victory. 
I don't care how bad it was, how

567
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,160
good it was, how close we came 
or whatever, as long as we win. 

568
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680
And that's a terrible mentality 
to have. 

569
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,440
But that's the mentality I have 
when I'm playing that game. 

570
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,240
And my teammates will be the 
first ones to tell you that is 

571
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,040
so much more fun when we get 
that confetti and we get that 

572
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,480
sound without them having to 
have resed me 10 times because I

573
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,520
was savaging everyone on the map
and caused their video game to 

574
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,480
be taking care of me while I 
just went crazy on everybody in 

575
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,800
the game. 
And even more wild is that 

576
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,840
sometimes it's even more fun to 
lose, believe it or not, as long

577
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
as the game was fun and the game
was challenging and we did our 

578
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,600
best. 
And this is true in all areas of

579
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,400
life, not just video games, 
which is why I'm bringing this 

580
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200
up. 
But when you do your best and 

581
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,240
it's challenging, you might 
still lose, but you'll feel good

582
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520
about how you did it. 
And of course you'd rather win, 

583
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,400
but you can still lose and feel 
good about what you did to to 

584
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239
get there, how close you came, 
how much you improved, stuff 

585
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,080
like that. 
And it feels good to end the 

586
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,440
game and even whether you win or
lose, to not be angry, to not 

587
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,040
feel exhausted. 
And the feeling of doing well is

588
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,480
still there, even if sometimes 
the confetti and the trumpets 

589
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,080
aren't. 
And we're not exhausted from my 

590
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,159
campaign of terror on the map. 
Sometimes things don't have to 

591
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:43,480
go our way for us to feel good 
about the going that Suta Mujima

592
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Nakaya 19 the two sorts of 
thinking. 

593
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,920
It doesn't tell us to 
obsessively manufacture 

594
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440
wholesome thoughts all day. 
That would still be tilt. 

595
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,920
The Buddha said that even the 
even prolonged thinking and 

596
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,640
pondering even about wholesome 
things that you're thinking 

597
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
about can tire out the body and 
strain the mind. 

598
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Again, there's a reason the 
Buddha taught the middle path. 

599
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,360
He said that if you settle and 
concentrate the mind, you'll be 

600
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,320
much happier. 
And that's a great safeguard for

601
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,960
the I must get better and 
turning that into tilt. 

602
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,960
The guy in the video didn't tell
that girl. 

603
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,640
You must teach others how to 
grow and learn. 

604
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,680
He said you're obsessed with an 
outcome. 

605
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,800
The practice is not another 
achievement. 

606
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:37,040
It's we're training our 
inclinations and eventually 

607
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,880
whatever initially required a 
lot of deliberate effort starts 

608
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,640
to become second nature and 
natural to us and we get better.

609
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200
And then if we're kind of other 
people, they might learn 

610
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,960
something from us. 
The I don't mean to harp on this

611
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,000
video game, but the another 
thing about it I remember when I

612
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,440
very first started playing this 
game several years ago now, one 

613
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,560
of the first times I ever played
the game, there was a streamer 

614
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,120
in the game who streams his 
gameplay to make money and stuff

615
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,960
like that well known kind of a 
jerk. 

616
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,280
And I met him in the lobby and I
said something about not knowing

617
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,920
how to do a particular thing. 
And he took the time in the 

618
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,040
lobby to teach me how to do that
thing. 

619
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,800
And I thought that was pretty 
cool. 

620
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080
And I never forgot that he was a
huge jerk. 

621
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,320
But he it took time to be nice 
to me and teach me something in 

622
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,720
the game. 
He didn't have to do that. 

623
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,920
In fact, it's in his best 
interest not to because it made 

624
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
me better at the game and I 
could then play better. 

625
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,000
But the Buddha, he's hanging out
one day walking through the 

626
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,360
woods, and he hears something 
that catches his attention. 

627
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,640
He goes and he finds this guy 
named Sona. 

628
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,280
Then this is from the Sona Suta.
He goes and he finds this young 

629
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,000
man named Sona who is fairly new
to practice, and he's doing all 

630
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,240
the right things, trying really 
hard. 

631
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,320
And he's formerly a professional
musician. 

632
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,640
He's really good at it. 
And he played the what we would 

633
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120
call the loot these days, but he
played this stringed instrument.

634
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,760
And the Buddha comes upon him 
having a really tough time, like

635
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520
really berating himself. 
And he's considering leaving the

636
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,720
monastic order because he's just
not doing good. 

637
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,480
And the more he tries, the more 
discouraged he gets and the 

638
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,880
worse he does. 
And that's tilt. 

639
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,400
And so he's considering giving 
up. 

640
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,880
And the Buddha comes upon him 
and says, hey, look, if you you 

641
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,960
played the lute in your previous
light, were you good at? 

642
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,840
Yes, of course he's good. 
And he said if you tuned your 

643
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,360
strings too tight, they broke, 
right? 

644
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,480
And he said, yeah. 
And he said if you tune them too

645
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,480
loose, did they play well? 
He said, no, they sounded 

646
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,520
terrible. 
And so. 

647
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,560
So to properly tune them, you 
have to be in the middle path. 

648
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,480
And he said the guy finally got 
it and he he went on to become 

649
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:51,360
awakened and all of that. 
And that's the gamers advice to 

650
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,520
the woman in the video all over 
again. 

651
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Sona was so focused on why can't
I get there? 

652
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,280
Why am I not there already? 
I'm doing all the right things. 

653
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,360
Why can't I be awakened like 
everybody else is? 

654
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,680
And the Buddha said, you're 
looking at the wrong thing. 

655
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,880
He said, look at how you should 
practice. 

656
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,640
Look at what you're cultivating.
I mean, look at why it's doing 

657
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,560
this or doing that. 
And and then he focused him on 

658
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,440
the process of the doing, not on
the I'm a failure at doing it 

659
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:30,360
part. 
And and Sona, he said, he did 

660
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,560
not say to Sona, you have to 
abandon liberation. 

661
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,880
He said definitely try to become
liberated, but he said just 

662
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,440
focus on doing the practice, not
how well you're doing it, not 

663
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,520
you're doing it wrong. 
Just focus on the things that 

664
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160
you need to do in order to get 
there and you'll get there. 

665
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,520
And we spoke recently about the 
four right efforts, and that was

666
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,920
prevent an arisen unwholesome 
qualities from arising. 

667
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,080
If they're bad and they haven't 
arisen yet, do your best to keep

668
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
them from arising. 
If they've already arisen, do 

669
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
your best to let go of those 
things. 

670
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
You want to also cultivate the 
unarisen wholesome qualities. 

671
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,040
If you don't have the wholesome 
things happening for you, do the

672
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,720
practices that will bring that 
about. 

673
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,720
And if they've already arisen 
and you have those wholesome 

674
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,400
qualities, do your best to hold 
on to those without clinging to 

675
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,120
them and all of that. 
And that was the advice that he 

676
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,800
gave to everybody all the time, 
but particularly to Sona that 

677
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,560
day. 
And if you need a practice is a 

678
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,880
real simple way of doing it. 
You can notice name and nudge. 

679
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,040
You can notice when you're 
tilted and you're experiencing 

680
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,280
anger. 
The events, right? 

681
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,480
The anger event, the panic 
event, the obsession event, 

682
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,240
desperation. 
Whatever it is, once you've 

683
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,560
noticed it, then name it. 
What outcome am I clinging to 

684
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
right now? 
What am I insisting on 

685
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,280
happening? 
What am I? 

686
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,120
What? 
Where is the reaction going to 

687
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,840
lead me? 
If I react this way? 

688
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,960
Is it going to lead me toward 
affliction or to someone else's 

689
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440
affliction, or both? 
Or is it going to lead me away 

690
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,480
from Wisdom? 
And then once you've named 

691
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,600
whatever that thing is, then 
nudge it in the direction you'd 

692
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,720
prefer it to go. 
Where can I incline the mind 

693
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,880
instead towards goodwill, 
Towards patience and 

694
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,080
harmlessness and generosity, 
curiosity, equanimity, wise 

695
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,600
effort? 
Pick whatever thing you're 

696
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,360
wanting to work toward and take 
one action in that direction. 

697
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,160
You don't have to win the game 
that night. 

698
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,520
You can just take that one 
action and move in the right 

699
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,040
direction. 
And then you're practicing the 

700
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,120
person that you want to become. 
We spend all this time focused 

701
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,440
on the scoreboard of life, how 
much money, weight, job titles, 

702
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,280
all those things we've talked 
about all night. 

703
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,280
And scoreboards aren't 
inherently bad. 

704
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,680
They're good things that can 
tell us some good information, 

705
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,840
but they're not telling us the 
whole story. 

706
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,120
And they're just one piece of 
information. 

707
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,880
And so to kind of wind us down 
here, the important question is 

708
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,160
not did you win? 
The important question is, what 

709
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,800
did you practice while you were 
playing the game? 

710
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,120
And if you do that, then you're 
frequently pondering the things 

711
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,720
that lead the direction you want
to go. 

712
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,880
That becomes the inclination of 
your heart and mind. 

713
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,280
So yeah, I think that's all I 
really have to share about that 

714
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,760
tonight. 
I think every time we, every 

715
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,240
time somebody pushes that one 
button that we really wish they 

716
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:27,360
wouldn't push, the mind is 
learning from that, which way 

717
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,000
it's going to tilt. 
And you can pay attention and 

718
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,520
see, am I clinging to this 
outcome or not? 

719
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,120
And then you can shift that if 
you need to. 

720
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,640
And yeah, that's it. 
So if anybody has any questions 

721
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,440
or comments, we'll talk about 
that in just a moment. 

722
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160
But thank you for being here 
tonight, and we'll see you next 

723
00:41:45,160 --> 00:44:07,400
weekend. 
You're still here. 

724
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,760
It's over. 
Go. 

725
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,320
Practice. 
Go.

