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Right now in the United States, 
we're going through a government

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shutdown. 
And so it's affecting a lot of 

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people and a lot of our personal
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have an emergency fund set up, 
if we're not prepared for things

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like this, then that's when we 
can make impulsive decisions and

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we can go. 
For. 

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Payday loans and we can start 
getting, you know, Helocs on our

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home, equity lines of credit on 
our home and doing all of these,

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taking out loans on our 
retirement and things like that.

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And that can really start to 
snowball on the opposite 

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direction. 
And that's kind of what happened

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for my family and I when we got 
into financial trouble and our 

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paychecks weren't guaranteed. 
The whole point is there was 

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some stuff we could control and 
then there was other stuff that 

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we couldn't control and so. 
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You asked. 
And I'm answering. 

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So today's episode is a sneak 
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Alliance coaching program. 
And these are questions straight

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from members of our community 
who are working on their 

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finances and have an opportunity
to come every single month to 

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office hours with myself. 
And I answer there's very 

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specific questions based on 
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You are in your financial 
journey. 

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Where you are in the process of 
whether you need to focus on 

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your creating your emergency 
fund or if you're working on 

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your debt snowball and give. 
You a real. 

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Practical tips wherever you are 
in your journey and and the 

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opportunity to ask all the 
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So today's episode is a sneak be
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So I hope that this is helpful 
for you, but also to get a 

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understanding of what it's like 
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coaching program. 
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There's going to be some new 
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going to be. 
Rolling those out. 

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To my e-mail list in a couple of
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This will be the last 

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opportunity that the founder 
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for the membership. 
So if focusing on your finances 

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for the coming year is something
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highly recommend you jump on 
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more about that. 
But today's episode, I hope it 

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is encouraging for you. 
I hope it's a blessing for you. 

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And maybe we'll. 
Answer a question you didn't 

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know you had, so stay tuned. 
All right, so wasn't that 

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awesome? 
So those questions were 

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previously submitted by members 
of the Alliance coaching program

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and whether they had an 
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it or if they're listening to 
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available, All the recordings 
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community. 
They're getting their questions 

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answered. 
And so I've got some cool stuff 

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like I alluded to the. 
Beginning I'm. 

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Going to be rolling out for 
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alliance coaching program. 
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that with you all. 
So I hope that today's episode 

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was helpful. 
And if you want to get some more

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personalized answers to your 
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month, join us inside the 
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All right, we'll talk soon. 
Right now, I know there's a lot 

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that we can't control, but the 
things that we can, and I want 

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to talk a little bit more about 
that today, are the things that 

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we can control. 
And that's how we spend our 

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money now. 
And so if you're in this 

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situation right now where you 
don't know if your next paycheck

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is coming, and I know that's a 
very close thing in our 

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household as well, is, is how do
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survival mode budget? 
So we talked about survival mode

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budget is like the bare bones 
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And we talked about the IP 
taking that budgeting master 

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class. 
We talked about that in there. 

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And then we add on all the other
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including our our debt 
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And I did get some questions 
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So I'm going to cover that a 
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But we want to focus in on the 
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to keep a roof over our head. 
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Me a roof. 
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Food in our belly and 
transportation to and from work.

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So if you are maybe you're a 
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someone that's a government 
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right now, then they don't have 
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that are not getting paid and 
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And so if that's you and that 
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making sure that car payment is 
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that you can get to and from 
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that you can conserve your money
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And then like I said, the roof 
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belly. 
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single time we jump on a call is
supercook.com or using ChatGPT 

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to create recipes based on the 
food that you have on hand right

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now, because our families cannot
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And a lot of, sorry, the TV just
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A lot of budgeting will tell 
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budget gurus will tell you that 
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yourself first, do all of these 
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budget is if you plan all of 
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that transportation, so many gas
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that you're mortgages paid, your
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covered. 
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have to pay your health premiums
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skip doctor visits right now if 
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there's some things that can be,
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that's that's totally up to you.
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That's part of the essentials is
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is managed and that you can keep
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that's super important to so 
that you can be your best as a 

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parent for your family. 
So a quick check in as we I like

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to do accountability check INS 
is just seeing how you feel like

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your spending is lining up with 
the plan that you had for the 

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situation right now where your 
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could be a spot where we go 
pivot, pause, hold on, we got to

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make a new plan. 
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month, your budget is going to 
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happen, your priorities change. 
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a little bit different last 
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we had this government shutdown 
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finances, then your your 
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It's going to be less about the,
if you're doing your debt 

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snowball and you're working on 
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So one of the questions that 
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members is they're getting ready
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paused that because they're 
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shutdown. 
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payment is paid through 
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Does she continue to pay that 
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wait until the shutdown's over 
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So my answer to this question 
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through December is you've, 
you've already, you've already 

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taken care of October's already 
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That is absolutely great. 
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you are planning on paying on 
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that for now because that you 
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transportation or you might have
to use for your mortgage if your

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paycheck is going to be short or
non existent for the next few 

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weeks or months. 
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will re evaluate when that time,
when that time comes, when you 

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get closer to December and you 
realize, OK, like that maybe we 

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don't know, the shutdown's over 
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quote. 
Normal or. 

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Maybe it's continuing on and you
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From there but. 
For right now, hold on to any 

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extra funds that you have. 
So making sure that those those 

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priorities are paid and then 
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And that's why that budget is so
vitally important, especially in

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scenarios like this is whatever 
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hold on to that and save that. 
You could create a separate 

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emergency fund or you could just
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have that X that $1000 that you 
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So if you are in that financial 
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maybe buying some new clothes 
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is a, you know, as a pause. 
I know for us, there's a big 

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just between friends sale coming
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that I'm going to be selling 
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And so that money will be able 
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So whatever I sell, I can spend.
And so that's not going to come 

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out of my clothing fund for my 
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Get her, you know, replace some 
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she's worn out, that kind of 
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So this is the, this is the time
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October and coming into the 
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we're kind of in a crazy season 
financially with, with our 

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economy and the way things are. 
We need to kind of be more 

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conservative with our spending. 
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that's where you are, this is a 
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work with your budget and see 
what things need to, what things

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need to be reduced and what 
things can be paused for a 

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little while until you can get 
your financial footing again and

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know that your paycheck is going
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Quick pause, friend. 
If you're tired of feeling like 

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you're doing this whole money 
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It's my group coaching 

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membership where busy parents 
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stability. 
Finally, stop living paycheck to

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paycheck and start making real 
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That actually gets. 
What you're going through right 

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now, it's only $27.00 a month 
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That's JEWLZ, the Budget 
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All right. 
Let's get back to the. 

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Show this is a different 
question that was submitted by 

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another alliance number it 
credit scores and the financial 

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crisis right now. 
So this is this is a tough one 

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because it depends on what your 
priorities are. 

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What I teach and what I live is 
my credit score is my credit 

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score is just some number that 
the credit reporting agencies 

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and lending institutions use to 
determine my worthiness to pay 

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back alone. 
My goal is to never have to use 

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credit ever again. 
And so I don't care what my 

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credit score is. 
I don't actually even know what 

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my credit score is. 
And I want to remind you also, 

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your credit score doesn't define
who you are. 

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It's just a number that says 
this person is worthy enough to 

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take a risk on for them to pay 
back the money that you're going

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to lend them. 
And so it is just a, it's a 

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number. 
That's all it means. 

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So if this is a scenario that 
you find yourself in with the 

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financial crisis and you're 
having a hard time making those 

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debt payments, communicate with 
your creditors first and let 

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them know, hey, I'm affected by 
the government shutdown, 

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furloughs, that kind of stuff. 
My, my income is unstable right 

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now. 
Let them know ahead of time and 

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then take care of those survival
mode budget items 1st and you'll

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notice on that, on that every 
dollar budget, that is the very 

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last thing. 
And that's where it should be 

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because those other things are 
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That is kind of those things 
that, you know, we need to 

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address it. 
But there are things that are 

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happening in the past and we 
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be prepared for the future. 
And so when you're in crisis 

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mode, we want to make sure that 
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then everything else will take a
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So yes, if you are unable to 
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now and your credit score takes 
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what happened to to us, so be 
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And I know that that's a really 
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swallow sometimes because we are
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like this number that we need to
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success. 
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thought and that belief because 
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more successful because we have 
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day-to-day life and we enjoy it 
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have that added stress. 
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that situation, talk to your 
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your income is unstable right 
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with them now. 
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vitally important, because 
you'll know what you can commit 

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to and what you can't commit to 
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To repayment. 
So if you know you're only going

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to have. 
You know, $100. 

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Left after your utility, you 
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medicines, those types of things
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wouldn't commit to any kind of 
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Then you know, and make sure you
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conversations so that when, when
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find ourselves sometimes, 
especially when we're stressed 

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out and finances are a big part 
of that, that we can forget some

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of the conversation. 
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when you go back to revisit it, 
when you're in a more 

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financially stable spot and 
you're able to commit to that 

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repayment, then you have the 
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So how about, OK, emergency 
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paying off your debt? 
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What should you do first? 
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a lot of all of these things are
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They're all part of your big 
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And I would say the thing that 
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your income uncertain? 
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about that because it's 
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especially a lot of the 
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with different people. 
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If you have anything leftover, 
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If you do not have $1000 
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Now, if you're one of the people
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right now, by the shutdown or 
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that, then you can, if you 
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emergency fund set up, you can 
move into that, that debt payoff

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that debt snowball scenario and 
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Investing is going to come after
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have that eliminated, you're 
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to invest. 
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talked about this, I believe it 
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hours, is if you have a employer
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employer matches any kind of 
retirement investments, then you

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need to whatever. 
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towards that as that is free 
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If you don't take it, then 
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tables. 
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percent, 5%, whatever it looks 
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whatever is leftover that you 
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investing is making sure that 
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your debts are getting paid off.
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order the having that emergency 
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using that credit card on a 
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And also I have found for myself
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you have that $1000 emergency 
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little bit different than they 
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card. 
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We had a flat tire this week and
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frustrating but we took it to 
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for. 
Free. 

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So sometimes when those things 
happen like that, it's not about

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necessarily having to buy a new 
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It is like, OK, let's pause and 
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just jumping to worst case 
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We don't have, we didn't have to
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The thing is when we when we 
can, when we can pause and 

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respond to things instead of 
react to them, then we're going 

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to be able to make more 
conscious decisions that line up

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with our plans and our goals. 
And so yes, was this the flat 

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tire, frustrating? 
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that tire, we had an emergency 
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of stuff. 
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And so when you have that, 
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is this a real, true, in fact 
emergency or is this something 

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that can wait? 
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if you are in a spot right now 
where you have to dip into that 

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emergency fund, do it because 
that's what it's there for, but 

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do your very best to get it 
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And that's where this budget 
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And it's such a tool to help you
organize your money, but also 

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make sure all of the things that
are covered that need to be, 

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need to be covered in the 
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So emergency $1000 emergency 
fund, then your debt pay off and

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then investing. 
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is giving you any kind of 
retirement match then invest 

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that. 
Amount and nothing. 

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More and nothing less. 
I'm excited about what is coming

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with the Alliance. 
There's some some great 

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workshops I'm going to be 
putting together like this, 

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preparing your money for the 
holidays and reorganizing things

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so it's a lot more user 
friendly. 

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But you can find what you want 
when you need to and get you the

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questions answered that you want
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So that's what office hours is 
about is this opportunity to 

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just come together and ask the 
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And if you, I know that the 
times aren't always perfect for 

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everyone. 
And so if that is the case, 

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these are all recorded. 
So you can listen to them or 

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watch them at your leisure. 
And then also, if you have 

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questions ahead of time that you
want to submit, you can send 

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those, You can drop those in the
Alliance community chat, or you 

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can send a voice memo to me at 
speakpipe.com/debt Rebel podcast

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and you can ask your question 
there. 

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Thank you for tuning into the 
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