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Welcome back to two real 
witches. 

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Hello, and blessed be I'm Oak, 
I'm Danny, and we're a couple of

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practicing witches seeking 
initiation into a gardenarian 

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tradition of Wicker. 
Every Full Moon and New Moon, 

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we're discussing things we're 
learning and researching for 

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sharing magical discourse and 
hold space for other witches to 

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do the same. 
We're two real witches shooting 

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the shit and nerding out on 
magical top. 

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So if you're into the occult, 
the esoteric, or the 

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otherworldly, come hang out with
us in the liminal space of 

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sound. 
In today's episode, Oak will be 

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skimming the surface of 
astrology with her Astro 

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one-on-one two-part course 
conversation. 

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We're discussing the primary 
variables of modern astrology 

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and the uses of astrology. 
So zip up your spacesuits and 

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let's go universe divining. 
I just love your little intros. 

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They just warm my heart. 
That was so cute. 

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Danny, I do the can, you know. 
Yeah. 

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So in today's episode, we're 
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two elements of the topic, the 
air element and the fire aspects

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of them. 
So with the air, we're going to 

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go over some resources and I'm 
going to outline the many 

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variables of astrology. 
I will actually leave a larger 

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resource book list in the second
part of the conversation around 

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astrology. 
Because the variables will take 

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up a big chunk of conversation, 
cuz there are a lot of them. 

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Spoiler alert. 
And then in the fire aspects, 

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I'll talk a little bit about the
different uses of astrology and 

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how to find an astrologer for a 
reading if you've never done 

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that and maybe some things to 
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I'm very excited to jump in. 
Pumped are you? 

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I'm so excited. 
I have like 5000 questions which

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I'm going to wait and see if 
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contain myself but I am so 
pumped. 

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I'm very excited about your 
questions. 

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I am excited to say I don't know
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The deeper you get into 
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you have, not the more answers. 
So, right, right. 

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Yeah. 
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too far in, what you up to? 
What's going on with you? 

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Tell me, what are you learning? 
What kind of classes, workshops,

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books do you have going on right
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Yeah, so error updates well. 
I am just continuing to nerd out

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about astrology and fill in all 
of the little bitty gaps as I 

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finish my Astrology deep dive 
and research paper for Outer 

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Court. 
So yeah, I'm trying to take on 

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nothing new, but rather just 
getting into being able to 

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articulate even the minutia of 
some of these topics has been 

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like a great exercise for me and
feels like I'm doing a final 

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study for. 
The topic of 101. 

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So yeah, nothing more. 
Not don't learn about anything 

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else. 
Just tying up loose ends. 

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That's the focus right now. 
I'll. 

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Tell you I'm learning about 
boundaries is what I'm learning 

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about. 
Love that for you. 

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Boundaries and consistency. 
Some things after my heart you. 

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Yes. 
How about you? 

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What are you what are you 
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Workshops. 
Book I I I mean, I assume that 

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you're kind of in the same boat 
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I am setting a limit to myself 
that I'm turning in my paper 

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tonight because I'm at that 
point that it just is what it is

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and any more tinkering is just 
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So I just need to let be just 
just release it from my grasp, 

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post it, be done with it. 
So just working on finishing 

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that up and and being happy with
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I think I'm just putting a lot 
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the topic, I just want to do the
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Like if that's the first time 
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want to cover it succinctly and 
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of it. 
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fighting over like sentence 
structure and am I including 

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enough? 
Should I not include that like? 

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clarify, because maybe, I don't 
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us connect about this in 
previous episodes, but as part 

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of our Outer Court experience, 
which is a training group that 

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prepares people for potential 
initiation into the Gardenarian 

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tradition, I'm seeing 
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And what we do is we do a lot of
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information and part of our 
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do these types of deep dives in 
different topics, ones that have

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maybe not yet been dove into by 
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courts. 
And so we're kind of creating 

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this space of referenceable. 
Information about different 

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topics. 
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you know, one of our other out 
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mycology. 
I'm writing about astrology, 

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Danny's writing about folk 
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So we have a big array of topics
that we can learn from each 

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other. 
So these papers are reflective 

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of what we've learned, but also 
are going to serve as resources 

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for other people that come into 
our coven and our tradition. 

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Yeah, super valuable. 
And I also know that this could 

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be, like, someone's first 
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Then there's that, like, added 
layer of, like, this was the 

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first thing anyone ever read or 
knew about me because it's a 

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good reflection of me, you know?
And so that's the other I'm. 

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I'm just putting too much 
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I just need to turn the damn 
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Just turn the damn thing in. 
Yeah, it's great. 

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It's great. 
And then also just updates if 

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you're keeping up with Danny's 
book countdown. 

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Yes, I am on 20 and I reading 
the book that I actually picked 

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up at Summer Magic Fest. 
So I'm reading Poison Path 

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Herbal by Kobe Michael and I'm 
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I was hoping that I would have 
it finished by now so I could 

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really give you guys like a good
book review of it. 

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I'm loving it. 
I would not say it's a beginner 

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book in that I have had to like 
Google a lot of things that I 

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was putting together but they're
doing really great job of like 

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connecting thoughts. 
I haven't connected before So 

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you would love like there's 
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like there are whole chapters 
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and Saturn like whole chapters 
and so it's it's it's really 

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good but it's definitely not for
someone who like just wants a 

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quick fund read. 
You're going to be Googling 

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stuff, so. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Cool. 
All right, well, let's talk a 

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little bit about some of the 
things that we're up to, some of

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our fire actions, as I'd like to
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What irons do you have in the 
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So again, try not to add more, 
just trying to get through. 

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So I finished up the mango wine 
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Now I'm getting ready to start 
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Very excited about that. 
I'm really excited about the 

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mango one. 
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I love mangoes. 
So mega wine. 

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It's gotta be delicious. 
There's just no way it couldn't 

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be. 
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So Apricot's very exciting. 
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Yeah, it's all gonna be next 
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Next year is gonna be so good. 
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little bit on oil ideas, so you 
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or if anyone out there and the 
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Just well, we could potentially 
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identify herbs that would be 
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That could be a way of thinking 
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My gosh, send me all your 
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Yeah. 
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I'm like, well, everything went 
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refine this one and then I'm 
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this one. 
So yeah, so tell me what you're 

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thinking, because I've got a 
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don't know how to put it 
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Yeah, I'll have to bring some of
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too, because I never go through 
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So maybe you could. 
Get some of that okay. 

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So my yeah, what am I doing? 
Well I'm just working a lot 

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Update Mars is entering Virgo I 
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sooner. 
Already has and I am feeling 

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that vibe, so lots of 
organization. 

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Change management I I'm doing 
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and creating tradings and 
creating documents and resources

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for work. 
So my work schedule has changed 

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drastically and I'm probably 
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hours than I had been. 
So in response to that, I am 

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trying to focus on. 
Planning vacation so I can see a

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light at the end of the tunnel. 
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And I think just to really 
focusing on all of my time 

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management skills and like time 
blocking things and making sure 

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that if I say yes to something, 
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for when I would be able to do 
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And you know, boundaries the 
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But yeah, the scheduling of 
vacation is what I'm very 

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excited about. 
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That's my my fire is trying to 
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fire. 
That's that's what I'm doing, 

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staying alive. 
All right, If we transition into

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water, feelings, relationships, 
oh, what is what is going on in 

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your life right now? 
That I don't know about, Yeah, 

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well, I am, as I said, 
scheduling everything. 

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And just as part of that, just 
trying to not fixate on the 

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future and all the things that I
have coming up, but rather just.

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Stay present because there's a 
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And the other thing is I'm just.
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I'm feeling tons of gratitude 
for all of the people that are 

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in my life. 
I feel very blessed and don't 

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really know. 
Like tracing back, I'm like, Oh 

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my gosh, Danny is the most 
amazing person and I would have 

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never met them but hadn't been 
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And could you imagine us not 
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No. 
How sad did our existence be 

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right now? 
What we would be doing right now

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if we wouldn't be recording a 
podcast, what would you be 

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doing? 
No, I napping. 

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I mean, maybe, but still. 
Yeah, you're right. 

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You're right. 
I would. 

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So yeah, So I'm just feeling, 
you know, tons of gratitude for 

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all of my relationships and my 
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Feeling very supported by all of
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That's that's where I'm at with 
my water updates. 

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How about you? 
How are you feeling? 

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Sweet. 
I have almost reached Fuck It 

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mode. 
Like that's where I'm at. 

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Right now. 
So right now I'm kind of an 

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anxious mess. 
You know, I've talked about 

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this. 
I'm a planner. 

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And so when I don't know the 
plan or like I I can't see 

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what's on the other end of this.
I feel anxiety, maybe the 

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anxiety. 
So there's just a number of like

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looming things that like don't 
have confirmed dates, times, 

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activities and that is making me
feel a little chaotic like even 

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like work stuff. 
There are things that are 

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happening in the next two weeks 
that we don't have confirmed 

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dates for. 
And I'm like, so we're just 

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going to show up and do The 
thing is that what's going to 

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happen? 
So that's kind of where my brain

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is, is I'm just entering the get
through it phase where I'm just 

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like, alright, we're just going 
to show up and do the thing. 

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We're just going to show up and 
do the thing. 

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I think. 
I think fuck it suits you just 

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fine, you know? 
Yeah, I wanna show up and be 

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great. 
I'm just gonna show them be 

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great and you're just gonna get 
whatever I come in with cuz I 

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have no preparation. 
Yeah, I thrive on that. 

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I assume that 70% of you is 
still probably 110% of other 

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people's efforts. 
So you are you should find. 

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You should slip into fucking 
mode and feel good about it. 

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What about like Earth updates? 
So any? 

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I mean, obviously you have some 
challenges around seeing. 

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The clear writing on the wall of
where things are going. 

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But yeah, what about purchases? 
Are you treating yourself to 

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anything well? 
So a few episodes ago I told you

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guys that after Summer Magic 
Fest I decided I really enjoyed 

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Stacy Williams Ings presentation
and then looked into some of her

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Oracle decks. 
Never really been an Oracle 

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girly, and so I purchased that 
one because she had some really 

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great points around like not 
using Forms of Divination for 

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ancestral reading, not using 
forms that they would not be 

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familiar with, or like I can 
iconography that they would not 

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recognize because what messages 
are they actually giving you 

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then. 
So I purchased it and it just 

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finally arrived. 
And so I cleansed it last night 

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and I went ahead and did like my
first reading and it made me 

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feel so good about like 
everything that's going on 

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because. 
So I kind of wanted to know like

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what are their thoughts about 
where I am spiritually? 

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Like how are they kind of 
feeling about what's going on. 

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And essentially I got like the 
answers, I got just a three card

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pull. 
We're one of them is like, it's 

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like a praying baby Angel 
headstone. 

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And it's about like the loss of 
innocence or like essentially 

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the death of a child. 
Right. 

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But it's not about the actual 
death of a child. 

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It's just that feeling. 
And so I got it reversed. 

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And so I took that to mean, 
like, I know that you think that

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we are going to think that this 
is not the right path because 

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it's not, you know, in line with
Hannity and all those things. 

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But like, we don't see it that 
way. 

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Like, we don't feel that way 
about it. 

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And then the other ones were 
about like sense of community 

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and belong. 
Like it was essentially like a 

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we get what you're doing, we see
where you're going, we think 

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it's fine. 
You do you. 

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And I thought about that. 
So now it's all up there on my 

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altar. 
Just. 

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Hanging out. 
I see it. 

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Yeah. 
Nice. 

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Awesome. 
I I just had. 

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I have curbed my purchasing 
quite a bit. 

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I just want every to know it 
sounds doesn't sound like it but

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I have, I swear. 
But I have the coolest terrible.

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I hate to look this word up 
because I've never pulled it 

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that before. 
Okay. 

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Well, it's specific. 
It's specific. 

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So most people when burning the 
charcoal disk to put loose 

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incense and would use a like a 
sensor. 

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Cauldron. 
Right. 

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So that's the general go to and 
then a sensor could be a 

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cauldron, right. 
So that's vice versa. 

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But a terrible very specifically
is one that's designed to be 

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swung. 
Oh, OK. 

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I'll just show it to you. 
Gonna see it. 

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I'll grab it right now. 
Well, I mean, I saw versions of 

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it on Google, but. 
OK, OK, Did I saw this word and 

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I was like, well, I don't know. 
Does she misspell? 

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Thimble what? 
Is Oh, I'm glad I could bring a 

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new word. 
That's good. 

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Yeah. 
I mean the, you know, me and my 

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feelings around gold things. 
I don't like gold. 

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I'm OK with brass. 
Like I'm OK with brass in my 

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ritual room. 
But I only have Chrome Silver. 

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In the rest of my house. 
So I was able to find a silver 

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terrible, which I'm very excited
about, that doesn't have any 

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Catholic crosses on it, which I 
was gonna say as soon as I saw 

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it, I was like, this looks like 
a Catholic sensor, yeah. 

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It is very much that, yes. 
Yeah, awesome. 

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And then do you have something 
else? 

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Do you have something else in 
your? 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I ordered some new shelves. 

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So that I can do some rework and
add some additional countertop 

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space for my expanding, ever 
expanding alter needs, making 

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room for, you know, maybe some 
new guts to come into our lives.

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So yeah, I love your like, 
commitment to creating like a 

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space. 
Or meanwhile, I'm just being 

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like chaotic, like Swamp Witch, 
and I'm just like, and in my 

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kitchen here are all of my 
spices lined on the wall and 

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it's very hard. 
That's great. 

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That's amazing. 
I create a space and I'm like, 

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it's wherever I am. 
So if I'm in the game room, this

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is now a magic room. 
No, that's what's up. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, the altar is where the 

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hardest, right? 
So. 

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I just happen to be able to have
the space, so I take advantage 

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of it and yeah, yeah, so, so 
shelves. 

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Cool. 
Alright, well thanks for 

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catching up and sharing where 
you're at. 

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I literally, this was actually 
us catching up. 

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It's not like we caught it 
beforehand, like this is maybe 

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the longest we haven't like, 
seen each other in person in a 

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bit. 
Like a It was your birthday. 

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How was your birthday? 
I mean, it was great. 

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You know, it was. 
Yeah, I scheduled doctor's 

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appointments all day, so that 
tells you how old I'm getting. 

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To be fair, they weren't just 
for me. 

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They were also for the kids. 
So it was totally legit. 

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Yeah, it was chaosity, but it 
was great. 

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That is like the most adult 
birthday ever, you know, 

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Everybody got their glasses. 
I got contacts. 

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That that's meaningful, Yeah. 
Being able to see things clearly

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that's a great our dental needs 
taken care of. 

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I mean, I'm just saying into the
new, the new cycle of the year, 

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feeling very caught up on all of
our healthcare needs, you know, 

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that's awesome. 
All right, well, are y'all 

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ready. 
Blast off to outer space. 

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Just kidding. 
That's cheesy. 

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Gonna be like astrology, 
astronomy, MM, HM, MM. 

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HM Very connected. 
Very, very connected. 

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That's right. 
Yeah, Okay. 

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Cool. 
So yeah, we have, as we talked 

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about it in the beginning, we're
gonna go over the air topics and

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we're gonna go over the fire 
aspects of this topic. 

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So when I say the air topics, 
what we mean is the logical 

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aspects. 
So this is maybe just the 

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information heavy section and it
is going to take up the majority

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of time today. 
I'm going to try to be as clear 

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around the different topics as 
possible and we'll we'll see how

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it goes. 
So Danny, you want to kind of go

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through some of the things that 
we're going to talk about and 

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then I would be really 
interested in knowing just 

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because this is all just 
selfishly for us which of these 

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topics that are in the air. 
The AIR section here. 

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Which of those topics do you 
feel most confident and 

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understanding? 
And which do you feel least 

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confident? 
Because I'll use that to inform 

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our our time. 
OK, so see, we've got Zodiac 

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here. 
I feel pretty, pretty good about

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that. 
Houses, I I feel good about 

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placement. 
But as far as like understanding

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what they all mean, I know that 
there are sectors and I know 

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they have meanings. 
I just don't do well with like 

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rote memorization. 
So not so hot on those planets 

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is in parentheses and that is 
making me intimidated because 

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I'm like, do I know the planets 
now? 

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I'm not sure. 
It's in parentheses. 

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And then placements is something
I I think I'm a little confused 

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about because when I look at a 
chart, it's not like other forms

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of divination where you like, 
you ask a question and then you 

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do the thing and then that's 
your answer. 

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Like if you're reading the Natal
chart, it's like, bam, here's 

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everything. 
Where do you start? 

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Where do we, where are we going?
I just that it's so that's where

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I'm like. 
Am I? 

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Am I looking at like Zodiacs? 
Am I looking at planets? 

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Am I looking at houses? 
Like where am I starting first 

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is the method to the madness for
me? 

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And then as far as aspects, I 
don't even know what that means,

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so. 
Perfect. 

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Yeah. 
Maybe it's actually an order of 

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your confidence. 
Yeah. 

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Is that true? 
Look at you. 

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Look at you. 
Just knowing you're like this 

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might be good, but this stuff 
right here. 

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Yeah, I mean honestly too, 
right, Like that was in order of

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my confidence levels of these 
topics as well prior to diving 

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into them. 
So I think it's just the logical

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way that we would be able to 
understand the information as 

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the popularity of these things 
are also like people talk about 

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the Zodiac all day, but people 
don't necessarily talk about the

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aspects. 
So I'd say those are also, you 

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know how popular they are. 
But yeah, so we're going to get 

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into the Zodiac. 
What do I mean about the Zodiac?

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What is it? 
Zodiac. 

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So the Zodiac is the big chart. 
If you were looking at it, it is

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all of the constellations that 
are divided and you would hear 

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the Zodiac referred to by sign. 
And really what you could think 

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of is zodiacal sign, right? 
Because a sign is a 

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constellation in the sky. 
That we can see from our 

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geocentric vantage point. 
Ooh, those are some big 

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expensive words. 
Okay. 

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So what do I mean by that? 
So geocentric means, like from 

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the position of Earth is how we 
interpret astrology. 

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Astrology predates the 
understanding of a solar system 

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revolving around the sun, which 
is heliocentric, right? 

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So we still talk about and are 
able to use the information from

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and the trends and correlations 
that the ancients were working 

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on because we still are on Earth
and see the sky, see the heavens

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in the same way that our 
ancestors saw it because we are 

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still on Earth. 
However, if we moved and lived 

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on Mars, well, that would be 
much different. 

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Sadiacal. 
Interpretations. 

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And when the humans go to Mars, 
we're gonna have to do this 

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whole damn thing. 
The whole damn thing. 

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That's right. 
Maybe not everything, but the 

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Zodiac would change drastically 
because the Zodiac is 

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geocentric. 
Does that make sense? 

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We get there, yeah. 
Would Earth then have its own 

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meaning? 
Yeah. 

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Yes, yes. 
And she's a she, just in case 

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you're wondering. 
OK, so let's talk about she the 

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only one that's not a boy. 
Venus is also a she. 

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That's right. 
That's, yeah. 

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And otherwise. 
And moons are often referred to 

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as she's and there's all kinds 
of asteroids that are she's, but

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we won't get into that because 
they weren't like this is 

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already hard enough. 
They're like, you know what, 

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let's add other pieces of. 
That's right in there. 

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That's. 
All right. 

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OK, so Zodiac equals the big 
pie. 

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So if you're looking at a Natal 
chart, if you're looking at even

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a chart of today's placements, 
you will see the circular pie 

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like model with a lot of little 
dots. 

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The dots are different stars 
that when you connect the dots 

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in a certain way you create 
these constellations. 

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And the constellations have myth
around them and were created 

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with this kind of myth. 
So I'm Sagittarius, right? 

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So my constellation of my sun 
sign is the Archer. 

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And if you looked at the 
constellation of the Archer, you

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would see it looks like an 
Archer. 

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So that's it. 
It's the stars connecting to 

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make constellations and the 
different constellations. 

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In their position, make up the 
Zodiac. 

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So there's twelve of them, you 
know, one for each sign. 

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However, each sign has 30 
degrees, so there's 360 in 

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total, right? 
Which lines? 

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Because it's a circle. 
That makes sense and it's the 

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reason when you hear someone say
I have a placement of, let's say

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Mars and Aquarius, they will say
I have Mars at 12 degrees of 

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Aquarius. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
That's good, right. 

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So when we say degrees, we mean 
degrees like at what place in 

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that constellation because 
constellation is big, right? 

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At what place is Mars or is your
Mercury whatever, right. 

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And when we're talking about 
placements, we're talking about 

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degrees rather. 
We're talking about where is a 

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certain planet luminary asteroid
in the. 

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Sign. 
And so it could be at 12 

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degrees, it could be at 24 
degrees, or it could be at 30 

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degrees. 
Okay. 

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All right, I think I'm 
following. 

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And then what is it? 
Is it clockwise? 

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Like when you say 30? 
I'm going to my right. 

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That's a good question. 
I don't fucking know, man. 

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00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,760
Honestly, that's good. 
We'll put that in the answer to 

456
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,640
your question. 
I love that. 

457
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,650
Cuz then I was like, wait a 
second, which one is which? 

458
00:25:47,770 --> 00:25:49,570
OK. 
Yeah, yeah, we'll get back to 

459
00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:50,850
you. 
Let's add those that. 

460
00:25:51,810 --> 00:25:57,410
But I will say what I do know is
that there are different ways to

461
00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:02,370
divide the constellations and 
depending on different 

462
00:26:02,370 --> 00:26:05,930
placements on Earth you would 
see things differently. 

463
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:08,170
So there are systems. 
This is like where you get into 

464
00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:12,730
the crazy complexities when you 
hear something like side side 

465
00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:17,780
rail or tropical system. 
Of Zodiac, that's how they're 

466
00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:21,540
just dividing the the Zodiac 
differently. 

467
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:23,340
There's a lot of other 
variations. 

468
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:25,100
We're not going to get into that
because we're staying surface 

469
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:28,380
level, but there's different 
ways to divide the 

470
00:26:28,380 --> 00:26:32,140
constellations depending on 
where you are on the Earth, 

471
00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:33,980
where you're looking at the 
heavens. 

472
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:37,620
So I think that the probably the
thing to understand about the 

473
00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:41,020
Zodiac is that they are just 
star placements, right? 

474
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:44,860
They have nothing to do with the
planets, necessarily. 

475
00:26:45,290 --> 00:26:51,410
However, there are rulers, quote
UN quote of each sign. 

476
00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:55,250
Right? 
So I am again Sagittarius Sun 

477
00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:57,730
sign. 
The ruler of Sagittarius is 

478
00:26:57,730 --> 00:27:00,610
Jupiter. 
Does it mean that my Jupiter is 

479
00:27:00,610 --> 00:27:04,890
placed in the Sagittarius sign? 
No, right? 

480
00:27:05,170 --> 00:27:07,730
But they have this kind of 
relationship. 

481
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:10,650
They also have a relationship 
with an element. 

482
00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:12,490
Element being one of the four 
elements. 

483
00:27:12,490 --> 00:27:13,570
Right? 
Air. 

484
00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:15,240
Earth. 
Fire. 

485
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,120
Water. 
So as a Sagittarius, I have a 

486
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,720
planetary ruler of Jupiter and I
am a fire sign. 

487
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Good so far. 
Yeah, you. 

488
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,440
Are your sun cancer. 
I didn't prep any of this. 

489
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440
This is just off the cuff. 
This is how good I am. 

490
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Are you ready? 
So you're Cancer, right? 

491
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
That's where your son is. 
When you were born, the sun was 

492
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,520
in the constellation of Cancer. 
That's why you're Sun sign 

493
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,080
cancer. 
I don't know what degree, I 

494
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,880
don't know what degree it was. 
I don't know where in that 

495
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,080
constellation. 
I don't either. 

496
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,400
I have 4 astrology apps. 
I could pull one of them. 

497
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,880
Up Okay. 
But the ruler of Cancer is not 

498
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,080
the sun, it's the moon, right? 
And it's the only sign that's 

499
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,720
connected with the moon. 
But there are not 12 planets, so

500
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,240
some planets share signs, if 
that makes sense. 

501
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Because math okay. 
Great. 

502
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,640
Alright, so we've gone through 
the fact that. 

503
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,000
Astrology is geocentric. 
It is the Zodiac refers to the 

504
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,080
entire collective 12 
constellations each 

505
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,360
constellation it can be called a
sign. 

506
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,800
There are different degrees in 
that sign. 

507
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,760
There are up to 30, which makes 
up the 360 of the Zodiac, and 

508
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560
there are lots of different ways
to divide that side rail 

509
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,280
tropical. 
But there are also these other 

510
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,440
associations like planetary 
rulers, elements. 

511
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:44,820
And there are also this other 
thing, which is called a 

512
00:28:44,820 --> 00:28:52,660
modality or a triplicity, and 
this refers to the modality of 

513
00:28:52,660 --> 00:28:55,940
each sign. 
There's three different 

514
00:28:55,940 --> 00:29:00,620
modalities that describe each 
sign, and they repeat 

515
00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:03,180
themselves, right? 
So there's cardinal, fixed, 

516
00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:06,700
immutable, and those repeat four
times for 12 signs. 

517
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:12,330
So there are 4 cardinal signs, 
there are four fixed signs, and 

518
00:29:12,330 --> 00:29:16,650
there are four mutable signs. 
Have you heard this cardinal, 

519
00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:22,130
fixed, mutable term before? 
I I read an entire astrology 

520
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:26,290
book and I think I absorbed 
approximately 10% of all of the 

521
00:29:26,290 --> 00:29:29,010
knowledge in there. 
So I know those those terms, but

522
00:29:29,010 --> 00:29:33,410
I don't think that I like 
cemented their meaning I guess 

523
00:29:33,410 --> 00:29:36,590
in my brain. 
And really, what this is, the 

524
00:29:36,590 --> 00:29:41,870
modality describes the sign as 
it relates to the season. 

525
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:45,390
Okay. 
So I have this chart. 

526
00:29:45,390 --> 00:29:48,790
We're going to put all these 
little cute charts in our show 

527
00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:50,790
notes cuz I think they're 
fucking helpful. 

528
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:53,670
I mean, I had to make these up. 
I haven't been able to find 

529
00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:56,590
charts that contain all of this 
data in one place. 

530
00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:58,220
Really. 
So yeah. 

531
00:29:58,340 --> 00:30:01,100
I mean, I'm sure they exist, but
yeah, it would keep doing a 

532
00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,660
novel thing I love. 
That I don't know. 

533
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:06,700
I'm sure it's been done before. 
You know, no new things in the 

534
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:08,500
sun. 
All right, so let's start with 

535
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:12,780
the idea that there is an order,
and this does go in an order 

536
00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:15,780
around the circle starting with 
Aries ending with Pisces, right?

537
00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:19,980
So the first sign is Aries, and 
this begins if you can see the 

538
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:23,420
sun. 
Dates would be in March, so when

539
00:30:23,420 --> 00:30:27,830
the sun is in. 
The sign of Aries, We consider 

540
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:32,790
that airy season, right? 
And if you notice that March, 

541
00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:36,230
April and May, those are 
springtime. 

542
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:40,110
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. 
Okay. 

543
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:45,550
So these are we're going to see 
this is the modality within 

544
00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:49,750
springtime. 
We have the starting with Aries,

545
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:51,510
we have the cardinal sign of 
Aries. 

546
00:30:52,110 --> 00:30:54,830
Taurus is the fixed sign of 
spring cardinal. 

547
00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:59,260
Sign of spring is Aries. 
The mutable sign of Spring is 

548
00:30:59,260 --> 00:31:04,340
Gemini. 
So what is the definition? 

549
00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:06,700
Like what cardinal? 
So glad you asked. 

550
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:09,260
Thank you, thank you for asking.
So I just want to show you. 

551
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:12,460
The pattern here though, is that
it goes in order and it repeats 

552
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:14,580
cardinal fix mutable, Cardinal 
fix mutable, right. 

553
00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:17,260
And it repeats four times. 
And the reason it repeats four 

554
00:31:17,260 --> 00:31:22,340
times is because it's dividing 
each season's signs into 3 

555
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:25,780
modalities. 
The math is just mathing so good

556
00:31:25,780 --> 00:31:27,900
right now. 
It's just like threes and fours 

557
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,460
and twelves. 
Yeah, that divides so nicely 

558
00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:32,620
into 12. 
Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful, 

559
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:33,660
these people. 
Had nothing. 

560
00:31:33,860 --> 00:31:35,780
They didn't have TV. 
They were thinking about these 

561
00:31:35,780 --> 00:31:38,420
things. 
They made this make sense. 

562
00:31:38,780 --> 00:31:41,300
Okay. 
So what does each modality mean?

563
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:45,260
Well, modality refers to the 
qualities that are associated 

564
00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:49,380
with that sign. 
So a Cardinal sign is the first 

565
00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:52,550
of the season. 
They're often born leaders. 

566
00:31:52,550 --> 00:31:56,390
They initiate things they have 
this kind of energy around, like

567
00:31:56,390 --> 00:31:58,550
jumping in and pushing things 
forward. 

568
00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:01,710
They're the movers and shakers. 
Like, they don't just sit around

569
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:03,310
waiting for things to happen to 
them, right? 

570
00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:06,310
They are the initiators. 
So that's Cardinal. 

571
00:32:06,430 --> 00:32:08,030
And that's the first part of the
season. 

572
00:32:08,350 --> 00:32:12,390
So in the spring season, Aries 
is the cardinal sign of spring 

573
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:18,830
moving on, tourists being the 
fixed sign of spring? 

574
00:32:19,550 --> 00:32:22,310
Fix means this is fully in the 
middle of the season. 

575
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:24,870
Meaning like this is when that 
seasonal energy is fully 

576
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:29,710
expressed and so because it's 
fully representative of the 

577
00:32:29,710 --> 00:32:35,230
season, it is thought to be the 
upholder or defends positions it

578
00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:38,930
kind of protects. 
And preserves traditions. 

579
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:41,770
It is the least welcome of 
change. 

580
00:32:41,810 --> 00:32:47,050
The fixed mindset, if you will 
and they often will defend, you 

581
00:32:47,050 --> 00:32:50,290
know, situations and 
responsibilities and goals, 

582
00:32:50,330 --> 00:32:51,530
right. 
So they're very connected to 

583
00:32:51,530 --> 00:32:53,730
that. 
So the fixed sign of tourists, 

584
00:32:53,850 --> 00:32:55,970
tourists, folks are. 
I mean, that's very much how 

585
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:58,610
tourist qualities are described 
is. 

586
00:32:58,690 --> 00:33:04,290
They are maybe not super 
flexible and they do actually 

587
00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:07,150
enjoy some tradition sounds very
Boomerasque. 

588
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:11,630
I my dad is a Taurus, my boss is
a Taurus. 

589
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:14,270
It's. 
I have nothing but Tauruses 

590
00:33:14,270 --> 00:33:17,710
around me, so I'm just here to 
shake up their world. 

591
00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:22,670
Okay and then mutable mutable 
signs. 

592
00:33:22,670 --> 00:33:24,150
This is the end of the season, 
right? 

593
00:33:24,150 --> 00:33:26,870
These are the people that are 
most adaptable. 

594
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:29,030
They can shift into many 
different forms. 

595
00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:32,990
They can take on personas. 
Very, very flexible. 

596
00:33:33,030 --> 00:33:38,110
And for Spring Gemini. 
Is the mutable sign. 

597
00:33:38,110 --> 00:33:40,190
Well, that makes sense, right? 
A lot of people think of 

598
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:44,950
Gemini's as being able to hold 
multiple truths that yes, Yeah, 

599
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:46,990
that like conflict with one 
another. 

600
00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:49,790
They can hold multiple truths in
their mind at once because they 

601
00:33:49,790 --> 00:33:53,350
are adaptable. 
Thinkers love that Gemini and I 

602
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:55,990
can never keep up with. 
Like I feel like she's arguing 

603
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:58,190
with herself. 
Did you want my opinion? 

604
00:33:58,910 --> 00:34:00,550
Yeah, you didn't even have to 
come to the argument. 

605
00:34:00,550 --> 00:34:02,270
She's got out. 
Okay. 

606
00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:05,830
So you know going through of 
course we have like the next 

607
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:09,469
after spring would be summer. 
So we have cancer Leo Virgo 

608
00:34:10,030 --> 00:34:15,389
cancer Cardinal Leo fixed Virgo 
Mutable and then we have fall 

609
00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:16,989
and then we have winter. 
Right. 

610
00:34:16,989 --> 00:34:23,830
So I'm sedentarius son, so I am 
a mutable sign of fall. 

611
00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:26,139
What? 
But it's the winter time. 

612
00:34:26,219 --> 00:34:27,420
It's not the winter time in 
Florida. 

613
00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:33,300
This actually aligns perfectly. 
So yeah, all right, good on the 

614
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:34,500
modalities. 
Does that make sense? 

615
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:37,739
So it's just like another way of
describing the energy of the 

616
00:34:37,739 --> 00:34:40,900
different signs. 
And it's slicing them up into 

617
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:42,820
seasons and three parts of the 
season. 

618
00:34:43,179 --> 00:34:44,739
Nobody ever said that shit to 
me. 

619
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:48,820
It took me so long to understand
that I read a whole chapter 

620
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,820
about it and still was like, I 
don't How do I? 

621
00:34:52,139 --> 00:34:54,790
How do I know who's a cardinal? 
Are they red? 

622
00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:56,870
What does that mean? 
I thought they were a bull. 

623
00:34:56,870 --> 00:35:01,430
Why are they a cardinal also? 
Yeah, some of us are also birds 

624
00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:04,030
and I don't, but not necessarily
the air signs. 

625
00:35:04,030 --> 00:35:05,750
I don't know what we're doing. 
Yeah. 

626
00:35:06,030 --> 00:35:08,870
So I made this little chart here
again, we'll link this in the 

627
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:11,710
notes of the signs. 
Next to that is the 

628
00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:14,870
constellations that just 
identifies that your 

629
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:18,870
constellation is the crab 
constellation because you're 

630
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:20,750
cancer. 
And then we also I've listed the

631
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:22,670
elements that are associated 
with those. 

632
00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:26,150
The modalities. 
The modern ruler, meaning the 

633
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:29,350
modern planetary ruler, there 
are repeats. 

634
00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:33,870
For instance, Gemini, the ruler 
of Gemini is Mercury, and it 

635
00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:37,510
also is the Mercury is also the 
ruler of Virgo, right? 

636
00:35:37,830 --> 00:35:40,470
And then I put the Sun dates 
that are associated. 

637
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:44,630
When we say it's airy season, 
we're referring to when the Sun 

638
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:46,590
is in the constellation of 
Aries. 

639
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:49,830
Love it and then tell me your 
thoughts on cusp. 

640
00:35:49,870 --> 00:35:52,740
I know you have very. 
Yeah, they're just not real. 

641
00:35:53,020 --> 00:36:00,020
Yeah, because there's no, like, 
there's no .05 degree of 

642
00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:04,380
something, right? 
Like, there's one degree, and 

643
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:06,980
before that there was 30, and 
before that there was 29. 

644
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,820
So if you're born on a day, the 
only reason that cusps were 

645
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:16,740
invented were for the purposes 
of publishing horoscopes and 

646
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:21,370
papers in like the 1920s. 
Yeah, I have a whole thing that 

647
00:36:21,370 --> 00:36:23,570
I could talk about and share, 
and I'll go into that in the 

648
00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:27,930
water section when we talk about
the history of astrology and 

649
00:36:27,930 --> 00:36:31,130
how, like, how the fuck we ended
up with like super popular sun 

650
00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:35,690
signs when that's maybe the 
least accurate for people's 

651
00:36:35,690 --> 00:36:38,810
personalities, right? 
But it's less accurate than like

652
00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:42,210
your rising sign, right? 
But yeah, great question. 

653
00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:44,730
Love it. 
Costs aren't real because. 

654
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:48,130
Placements are in degrees, and 
there's clearly a degree that 

655
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:50,530
placement is. 
And their whole degrees. 

656
00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:51,970
Yeah, Yeah. 
Now that makes a lot of sense to

657
00:36:51,970 --> 00:36:52,650
me. 
OK. 

658
00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:54,090
All right. 
Awesome, Good. 

659
00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:56,010
All right, So we went through 
Zodiac. 

660
00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:00,610
We went through one thing, let's
go through another 20. 

661
00:37:00,610 --> 00:37:02,130
OK. 
So the next thing that I would 

662
00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:05,770
say would make sense in 
understanding approaching these 

663
00:37:05,770 --> 00:37:07,170
topics would be the house 
systems. 

664
00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:10,490
That actually seems somewhat 
advanced and the reason that I 

665
00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:14,330
connected the house systems with
the Zodiac. 

666
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,280
Is because it's easy to 
visualize the house systems in 

667
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,040
relationship with the house 
systems and the Zodiacs, right? 

668
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,640
Zodiac and house systems kind of
go together in that they lay on 

669
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,160
top of each other. 
So if the way I describe it, 

670
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,680
here's my kind of shitty 
analogy. 

671
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:38,560
But if the constellations are 
dividing into different signs, 

672
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,280
they could be the toppings on 
the pizza. 

673
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,320
All right. 
Are you with me? 

674
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Okay. 
So we have 12. 

675
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:47,470
Different little areas that have
12 different little toppings, 

676
00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:49,150
right? 
So let's say this little pile 

677
00:37:49,150 --> 00:37:53,230
over here, pepperonis that makes
up a crab that is Cancer. 

678
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:58,550
And then we have like maybe a 
little sausage pile over here. 

679
00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:03,110
That's not a gross, but a little
topping, a centric pile over 

680
00:38:03,110 --> 00:38:07,270
here and maybe that makes up the
Sea Goat. 

681
00:38:07,350 --> 00:38:09,750
And so that's Capricorn, right? 
And so on and so forth. 

682
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:12,070
Of course, we would have to say 
anchovies for Pisces. 

683
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:14,340
This is a pun. 
This is an Astro. 

684
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:17,180
How do I get pineapples? 
I want pineapples on. 

685
00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,180
Mine. 
I think that gives a really 

686
00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:24,140
strong Gemini energy to me 
because so many people are anti 

687
00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:29,140
pineapple and Gemini's be like 
well, pineapples are beautiful 

688
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:31,580
fruit and some people like it 
and some people don't. 

689
00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:34,660
However, if people like it, then
you know you could see savory 

690
00:38:34,660 --> 00:38:36,380
and sweet. 
Like those things are really 

691
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:38,500
popular elsewhere. 
Why wouldn't we do it on pizza? 

692
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:39,460
That's right. 
That's right. 

693
00:38:39,740 --> 00:38:41,380
OK. 
So the different toppings of 

694
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:44,260
this pizza, let's call those the
constellations, they're in like 

695
00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:47,620
little groups. 
And then the way that you come 

696
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:53,700
in and you slice the pizza, that
is the house systems and so they

697
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,220
don't always necessarily fall in
the Zodiac. 

698
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:01,740
In certain house systems they do
not. 

699
00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:10,450
I happen to use whole sign 
system of houses and for me they

700
00:39:10,450 --> 00:39:13,330
all align. 
And for most beginners the whole

701
00:39:13,330 --> 00:39:17,570
sign system is the easiest 
system to reference because we 

702
00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:20,650
don't get this complication of 
the 1st house landing between 2 

703
00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:23,530
signs. 
Yeah, yeah. 

704
00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:28,290
The OK, yeah. 
So the, you know, there's lots 

705
00:39:28,290 --> 00:39:34,270
of different house systems and. 
The biggest difference is how 

706
00:39:34,270 --> 00:39:37,270
the house is not really how 
they're interpreted. 

707
00:39:37,470 --> 00:39:40,030
The interpretation of the house 
systems and the meaning of each 

708
00:39:40,030 --> 00:39:42,390
house does kind of stays the 
same, but instead it's like 

709
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:46,270
where they have cut the pie. 
In some some systems they would 

710
00:39:46,270 --> 00:39:50,270
cut right through that pile of 
pepperoni and it would be in you

711
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:53,830
know a first house pepperoni and
have second house pepperoni. 

712
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:57,870
Although, you know, maybe on the
other side of pepperoni the the 

713
00:39:57,870 --> 00:39:59,760
pineapple got in there too. 
Right. 

714
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,280
And so it makes it somewhat more
nuanced and sometimes people 

715
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,200
think it's more accurate, but it
is more complicated. 

716
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,280
And going through and comparing 
different house systems 

717
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,960
literally could be like a whole 
another episode. 

718
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,280
But I will say that most 
astrologers agree that the whole

719
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,760
sign house system is totally 
fine for a basic understanding. 

720
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,320
And these systems don't contrast
one another in a lot of ways. 

721
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,320
Sometimes house systems can be 
actually combined to further 

722
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,520
interpret. 
Which is like, mind blown. 

723
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,280
However, it did make me feel 
better about the fact that there

724
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,680
are multiple health systems. 
Because I didn't learn about 

725
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,680
this until, like, maybe six 
months in of me like, OK, I'm 

726
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,920
going to learn astrology. 
And then I was like, great, 

727
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,400
Everybody agrees on what planets
mean. 

728
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,760
Yep, signs are all the same. 
Nobody's kind of mean different 

729
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,560
ways of interpreting it, But 
it's not really like, Nope, 

730
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,440
that's dumb. 
This is wildly different. 

731
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,430
Yeah, the house systems wildly 
contrast. 

732
00:40:57,430 --> 00:41:02,390
So you could have your first 
house placement in Capricorn in 

733
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:05,390
one system, and it could be 
literally first house in a 

734
00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:07,990
completely different space in 
another system. 

735
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:14,030
This created some dissonance. 
In my mind I was like, wait, so 

736
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:15,830
then. 
So then none of it matters, 

737
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:17,110
right? 
Yeah. 

738
00:41:17,110 --> 00:41:21,230
If it's if it's not true, then 
then how can I trust that what 

739
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:24,700
I'm doing is right? 
And the again, the thing that 

740
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,820
really made me feel good about 
it is this idea that sometimes 

741
00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:30,620
house systems can be layered on 
top of each other for additional

742
00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:32,540
understanding. 
And again. 

743
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:36,060
Laying more Oracle cards on 
tarot cards to, like, dig into 

744
00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:38,980
them a little, Yeah, yeah, okay.
And so the house systems 

745
00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:48,010
themselves are really about 
separating the 360 chart into 

746
00:41:48,010 --> 00:41:52,810
different areas, right? 
We could say cancer people have 

747
00:41:53,770 --> 00:41:56,970
spirit, like deep spiritual 
connections, but they also have 

748
00:41:57,650 --> 00:41:59,770
this strong connection with 
relationships. 

749
00:41:59,770 --> 00:42:04,650
Relationships define a lot of 
their lives, but that isn't 

750
00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:06,730
necessarily when we talk about 
the house systems. 

751
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:10,250
The first house in Cancer has a 
different meaning because the 

752
00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:16,850
1st house system is going to not
refer to a certain planet, but 

753
00:42:16,850 --> 00:42:20,250
instead it's referring to this 
area of your life being the 

754
00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:22,250
House of self. 
That would be one way to save 

755
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:25,450
first house system. 
So if you think about the 

756
00:42:25,450 --> 00:42:28,830
interpretation of first house 
system, it would be about 

757
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:33,070
yourself, about how you make 
first impressions, your general 

758
00:42:33,110 --> 00:42:35,790
attitude and reflection on life,
how you approach life. 

759
00:42:35,790 --> 00:42:39,870
It's it's the House of self. 
So if you have cancer in the 1st

760
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:44,150
house, and if you have a cancer 
son in the 1st house, then 

761
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:47,830
you're very self actualized 
because you have the sun which 

762
00:42:47,830 --> 00:42:51,390
is the planet of self in the 
House of self. 

763
00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:55,830
But the idea of cancer adds that
narrative as well. 

764
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:59,210
OKI think we're doing good. 
We're doing good. 

765
00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:01,170
All right, so there's. 
So, I mean, I'm not even going 

766
00:43:01,170 --> 00:43:03,130
to go into all the different 
house systems. 

767
00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:07,930
Some popular ones are this whole
sign or people sometimes call it

768
00:43:07,930 --> 00:43:13,650
house sign systems. 
Others include equal house or 

769
00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:17,490
another version of this is coke.
There's like lots of different 

770
00:43:17,490 --> 00:43:20,810
versions of house systems that 
we won't get into today. 

771
00:43:21,370 --> 00:43:27,020
But don't be alarmed when you 
recognize that house systems can

772
00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:29,660
contrast each other. 
It's okay. 

773
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,580
It all still works. 
You don't have to throw it all 

774
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,300
out. 
It's still okay to believe in 

775
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:38,420
it. 
So with this layer of house 

776
00:43:38,420 --> 00:43:44,140
systems in the constellation, 
you will never have an empty 

777
00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:48,540
house because there's a lot of 
stars in each house. 

778
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:53,040
Just because there is not a 
planet, luminary or asteroid in 

779
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,560
that planet doesn't mean that 
that house doesn't have all of 

780
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,880
these beautiful stars that make 
up the constellation, right? 

781
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,120
So even in back to our first 
house cancer placement, maybe 

782
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000
you didn't have anything, like 
the sun wasn't there, the moon 

783
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,880
wasn't there, there was no 
planets there, nothing. 

784
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,880
You would still have the 
constellation of Cancer in that 

785
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,320
first house. 
So there's no empty houses. 

786
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:17,230
Okay. 
Yeah. 

787
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:19,990
Cuz when I look at my Natal 
chart, there's somewhere to me, 

788
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:22,550
it looks like there's nothing, 
right? 

789
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:25,470
Right. 
And there isn't any transiting 

790
00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:29,390
planets or luminaries or 
asteroids potentially, but there

791
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:32,310
still is this constellation 
that's connected with this topic

792
00:44:32,310 --> 00:44:35,790
of the house, right? 
And that's why people will say 

793
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,120
it means obviously a little bit 
more and brings more attention 

794
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,680
when there is a house with a 
constellation with a planet 

795
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,600
inside of it, right? 
That's going to add more to the 

796
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,320
narrative. 
And if you had a lot of these 

797
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,240
planetary bodies in a 
constellation in a house, then 

798
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,640
that would mean even more, 
right? 

799
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,680
Because you have this high 
concentration of energy 

800
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,680
happening. 
Yeah, it's happening here, Okay.

801
00:45:07,290 --> 00:45:11,250
OK, so the house systems help us
create even further 

802
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:15,090
understanding of the Zodiac by 
creating these kind of topics of

803
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:17,650
areas. 
There are 12 houses just like 

804
00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:19,610
there are 12 signs. 
Is that confusing? 

805
00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:24,730
Yes. 
Or just just nice and full, you 

806
00:45:24,730 --> 00:45:26,410
know what I mean? 
I think that's why I was 

807
00:45:26,410 --> 00:45:29,530
confused looking at a Natal 
chart is because I assume that 

808
00:45:29,530 --> 00:45:33,210
those 12 things, the first time 
I saw them were the 12 houses. 

809
00:45:33,570 --> 00:45:35,450
And then I see these symbols in 
there and I'm like. 

810
00:45:36,110 --> 00:45:38,030
Okay. 
So how do, how do these things 

811
00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:39,430
fall? 
But it's not. 

812
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:41,270
It's. 
It's the Zodiac. 

813
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:43,910
And then the houses just kind of
fit into that. 

814
00:45:44,350 --> 00:45:46,270
Yeah. 
And so with the system of whole 

815
00:45:46,270 --> 00:45:50,870
sign that I'm using, those two 
separations of constellations 

816
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:53,070
and houses are the same right 
there. 

817
00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:55,550
But in some systems, the 
constellations would stay where 

818
00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:57,990
they are, and maybe the house 
system would shift differently. 

819
00:45:57,990 --> 00:46:00,700
Just a little bit, Yeah. 
Okay. 

820
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:01,860
Cool. 
I think we're doing pretty good.

821
00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:05,540
There is a I could go through 
and describe every single like 

822
00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:10,980
modern title of house systems, 
but I really don't like when 

823
00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:16,460
podcasts go into reference 
material and like list out 12 of

824
00:46:16,460 --> 00:46:18,460
something like. 
Can't remember it. 

825
00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:20,660
I can't remember it. 
Well, what's I mean? 

826
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:22,980
Yeah, like just give me a chart.
So I'm just gonna give people a 

827
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,660
chart. 
What I'm trying to explain here 

828
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:27,380
is the variables of what is a 
Zodiac? 

829
00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:29,330
What does it mean? 
What's the variables? 

830
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:31,410
How do people think about it? 
All right, let's go to the house

831
00:46:31,410 --> 00:46:32,770
system. 
How does that work? 

832
00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:35,690
What does it mean? 
And then you can look up the 

833
00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:38,490
individual meetings of 
individual houses in this chart 

834
00:46:39,250 --> 00:46:43,810
That will provide each house 
system does not have a direct 

835
00:46:43,810 --> 00:46:46,890
planetary ruler. 
However, sometimes we can think 

836
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:50,690
of each of these houses as 
having an archetype. 

837
00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:56,770
So like Aries in the 1st house 
is reflecting very similar 

838
00:46:56,770 --> 00:47:02,350
energy right? 
Areas is very like self aware, 

839
00:47:02,350 --> 00:47:06,870
self starting and the beginning 
of things and that is all like 

840
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:09,830
first House Energy right? 
Whereas something like 

841
00:47:09,830 --> 00:47:15,310
Sagittarius 9th house that's 
that house title is the House of

842
00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:18,230
purpose and this is about 
travel, higher education, 

843
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:23,230
learning, ethics, morals. 
Those are all very Sagittarian 

844
00:47:23,230 --> 00:47:25,350
vibes. 
Yeah, yeah. 

845
00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:29,010
And you could then go another 
level and say, well, what is the

846
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:32,770
ruler? 
What is the planetary ruler of 

847
00:47:32,770 --> 00:47:34,250
Sagittarius? 
Well, it's Jupiter. 

848
00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:37,970
So now we have this connection 
of 9th house Sagittarius. 

849
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:44,450
Jupiter, yeah. 
Yes, and I love these charts. 

850
00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:53,010
For me, what charts do is they 
help me make connections between

851
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:55,930
things and help me easily 
contrast ideas. 

852
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:45,930
I love. 
Just give me, give me a 

853
00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:48,290
reference guide. 
Yes, that's what I want. 

854
00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:58,090
So I'm. 
I'm with you. 

855
00:47:58,090 --> 00:47:58,930
I love it. 
Love it. 

856
00:47:58,930 --> 00:47:59,930
Chart. 
All right. 

857
00:48:00,170 --> 00:48:01,850
We went through Zodiac. 
We went through house. 

858
00:48:01,850 --> 00:48:05,730
Now we're getting to planets. 
And why were why did I give 

859
00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:10,010
little air quotes to planets? 
Well, in astrology there are 

860
00:48:10,090 --> 00:48:13,250
asteroids or dwarf planets, 
which are just called planets. 

861
00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:18,850
The sun is not a planet and 
sometimes it's called a planet, 

862
00:48:18,850 --> 00:48:21,610
right? 
In astrology, like if you get 

863
00:48:21,610 --> 00:48:23,930
deeper into astrology, they call
those luminaries, they call the 

864
00:48:24,130 --> 00:48:26,530
sun and the moon luminaries, 
right? 

865
00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:28,410
And then we have the other 
planets. 

866
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:31,390
Wait, I thought Pluto wasn't a 
planet, right? 

867
00:48:31,390 --> 00:48:34,830
But let's just call them planets
because there's enough 

868
00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:38,590
complexity in astrology. 
You don't have to. 

869
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:42,430
Yeah, and there's a whole. 
And again, in the water section,

870
00:48:42,430 --> 00:48:45,270
when I get into histories, I 
will talk about asteroids. 

871
00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:52,020
And this adds additional 
complexity because Is Pluto an 

872
00:48:52,020 --> 00:48:54,740
asteroid? 
Is it a dwarf planet? 

873
00:48:54,740 --> 00:48:57,220
How do we compare? 
Like there are some asteroids 

874
00:48:57,220 --> 00:49:03,180
that have been pulled into a 
cycle that rotate just like 

875
00:49:03,180 --> 00:49:06,380
planets do, and they're large 
and you can see them. 

876
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:08,740
So why would we not also call 
that a planet? 

877
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:11,060
We don't, because we already 
made-up all the planets. 

878
00:49:11,660 --> 00:49:13,700
We said that's enough nothing. 
We said that's enough. 

879
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:15,260
The third graders can't learn 
this. 

880
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,480
That's too much. 
That's right. 

881
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:21,400
It doesn't fit into the into all
of the different little tricks 

882
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,400
they have to learn. 
All right, so planets, I guess 

883
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,160
the first thing to say is that 
these are generally, like, 

884
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,160
pretty widely agreed upon in 
terms of the meanings and 

885
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,240
associations. 
So if you're looking for 

886
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,800
concrete information, that 
probably won't change. 

887
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,800
We talk to astrologers. 
Start with planets, the sun. 

888
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,360
Usually everybody agrees on kind
of what the sun means. 

889
00:49:42,990 --> 00:49:44,870
Everybody kind of agrees on what
the moon means. 

890
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:50,870
There's very little debate about
those things right Each planet. 

891
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:53,230
Sorry, why do you think they 
like that? 

892
00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:55,510
Like, this is the point where 
we're like, no, we don't need to

893
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:58,030
argue about that because I think
it's the first thing that we 

894
00:49:58,030 --> 00:50:01,390
thought about, like 
historically, going back 

895
00:50:01,470 --> 00:50:04,230
millennia, we looked up at the 
sun and we said, like, what does

896
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:05,510
the sun mean? 
It means this. 

897
00:50:05,550 --> 00:50:09,000
And if you don't have a meaning 
for planets and you can't build 

898
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,320
on the interpretations of 
anything. 

899
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,280
So I just think that that's like
one of those things that was 

900
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,280
considered initially along with 
the constellations like those 

901
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,560
are the primary aspects of 
astrology in my historical 

902
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,520
research that I could find. 
So I think the older the 

903
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,320
information and the longer those
things have been considered, the

904
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,640
more consolidation of opinion 
there are around those topics. 

905
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,000
So like 200 years from now, 
we're going to. 

906
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:39,510
Stop arguing about how systems. 
I don't know. 

907
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:42,150
I don't know how to be true. 
I don't think things get more 

908
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:47,150
simple usually unless there is, 
and I mean again so I'm not 

909
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:49,190
going to get into history part. 
But there's been so much 

910
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:52,870
information lost over time 
through different cultures. 

911
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:56,190
Pooh, poohing astrology and then
other cultures being like, no, 

912
00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:57,870
it's great. 
And then other cultures being 

913
00:50:57,870 --> 00:51:01,390
like and that same culture then 
changing its tune and hating it,

914
00:51:01,390 --> 00:51:02,670
right. 
So we there's so much that has 

915
00:51:02,670 --> 00:51:08,160
been gained and lost over time, 
but where we are right now is 

916
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,920
that we just keep adding 
information. 

917
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,680
We're not, we're never losing 
anything for the most part 

918
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,800
because we have these data 
systems. 

919
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,960
So I'm not sure if things will 
get more consolidated or simple 

920
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,240
for those reasons. 
OK, planets. 

921
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,120
The amount of time that each 
planet UN quote spends in a sign

922
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,880
of the Zodiac depends on how 
long it takes for them to orbit 

923
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,200
the sun. 
Planets that are closer to the 

924
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,360
sun are going to orbit faster, 
therefore they're going to 

925
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,200
change signs more quickly than 
outer planets. 

926
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,520
That makes sense. 
Yeah, we're good there, yeah? 

927
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,400
Yeah. 
That tracks alright, So it's 

928
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,480
pretty nerdy and cool. 
So you know, you're kind of 

929
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,360
making the like astrology, 
astronomy, and it's like there 

930
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,080
are lots of overlap there. 
So I'm just going to say yes, 

931
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,680
right? 
But like if you look at the 

932
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:06,350
moon, the moon changes signs 
multiple times in a week, right?

933
00:52:07,110 --> 00:52:11,030
It takes one month for it to go 
through all of the different 

934
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:14,150
signs. 
Therefore, if we take one month 

935
00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:16,270
and we look at 12:00, well, 
that's how long. 

936
00:52:16,270 --> 00:52:18,470
If you divide those things, 
that's how long it spends in 

937
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:25,870
each sign. 
Mercury takes 3 months to rotate

938
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:29,920
around the sun, Therefore it 
spends longer in each sign, 

939
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,640
right? 
And Venus spends even longer in 

940
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,400
each sign. 
Venus takes seven months to go 

941
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,760
around the Sun, and if we divide
7 months by 12 signs, then 

942
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,920
that's how long it stays in each
sign. 

943
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,080
So there is a lot of astronomy 
and astrology and understanding 

944
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,280
how the things connect. 
All right? 

945
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,040
What else is trying to say? 
Astrologers like to group 

946
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,840
together. 
These quote, UN quote planets 

947
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:01,790
into different sections and they
are connected not only by 

948
00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:06,510
proximity but also how they're 
thought about and their 

949
00:53:06,510 --> 00:53:08,990
interpretations. 
OK, so there are let me give you

950
00:53:08,990 --> 00:53:11,150
the groupings. 
There's personal planets, 

951
00:53:11,310 --> 00:53:14,430
there's the sun and moon, the 
luminaries, there's the 

952
00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:18,430
transpersonal planets, and then 
there's these social or 

953
00:53:18,430 --> 00:53:21,510
generational planets. 
So personal planets. 

954
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:24,830
This is our Mercury, Venus, 
Mars. 

955
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:28,950
This represents our daily life 
and it changes often, right? 

956
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:30,910
So we have lots of ups and downs
in our life. 

957
00:53:30,910 --> 00:53:34,430
Sometimes, you know, work is 
really firing off. 

958
00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:36,190
And we got Mars and Virgo, 
right? 

959
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:42,270
Sometimes the sun being in 
Cancer makes you want to just 

960
00:53:42,270 --> 00:53:45,790
take care of yourself and crawl 
up with a nice soft blanket and 

961
00:53:45,790 --> 00:53:48,630
a candle and just live your best
indoor life, right? 

962
00:53:49,590 --> 00:53:54,590
All of these planets that rotate
quickly are referred to as 

963
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:56,310
personal planets. 
I actually just looped in the 

964
00:53:56,310 --> 00:53:59,350
moon which is luminary. 
But those also have a very 

965
00:53:59,350 --> 00:54:04,270
personal connection to humans, 
personal planets and luminaries.

966
00:54:04,990 --> 00:54:08,310
They represent daily life. 
They transit and transit means 

967
00:54:08,310 --> 00:54:11,750
moving right, so they transit 
through signs very quickly. 

968
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:17,150
The transpersonal planets is 
consists of Jupiter and Saturn 

969
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:21,830
or thought to show this kind of 
connection to the transitions of

970
00:54:21,830 --> 00:54:26,330
life beginnings and ends. 
So this is being positioned 

971
00:54:26,330 --> 00:54:29,250
between the inner planets and 
the outer planets though in the 

972
00:54:29,250 --> 00:54:31,530
middle right? 
And they help us kind of 

973
00:54:31,570 --> 00:54:35,090
navigate these gateways of our 
experiences of both the mundane 

974
00:54:35,090 --> 00:54:39,610
but also of the spiritual. 
So Jupiter is thought to be the 

975
00:54:40,530 --> 00:54:46,090
great benefic and Saturn is 
thought to be the great 

976
00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:50,130
Maleficent. 
And Jupiter is right all about 

977
00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:52,800
expansion. 
And it's like here for you, here

978
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,840
for your goals. 
It wants you to have more and 

979
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,040
more and more and Saturn wants 
you to have less and less and 

980
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,200
less and it wants you to have 
boundaries and it wants you to 

981
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,200
be stoic. 
Whereas Jupiter is like do more,

982
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,880
be an epicurean type person, 
right. 

983
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,320
So these two planets have a 
direct relationship to each 

984
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,840
other that that are also very 
contrasting. 

985
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,200
OK, so this is a transpersonal 
planet now going to the 

986
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,220
outermost planets, which are 
called our social or 

987
00:55:21,220 --> 00:55:27,100
generational planets of Uranus 
or Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. 

988
00:55:28,060 --> 00:55:30,180
These often cannot be seen by 
the naked eye. 

989
00:55:31,420 --> 00:55:35,500
They move very slowly and a 
whole generation could 

990
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:38,380
experience the transit of a 
planet in a certain sign. 

991
00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:42,660
So going down to my little chart
here, I can see that Pluto takes

992
00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:53,790
2000, 977 months, which means 
248 years to go around the 

993
00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:57,710
entire Zodiac while circling the
sun, right? 

994
00:55:57,950 --> 00:56:01,910
So if I take 12 and divide that 
into that number, I would get a 

995
00:56:01,910 --> 00:56:04,590
number like. 
I didn't calculate this, but you

996
00:56:04,590 --> 00:56:07,110
could do the math. 
Let's call it what? 

997
00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:11,310
What is that #12248 / 12? 
Let's. 

998
00:56:11,390 --> 00:56:12,830
Do that math. 
That's right. 

999
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:15,870
That's what it calculates for. 
All right, So. 

1000
00:56:16,350 --> 00:56:20,830
So Pluto takes the longest to go
around the sun, and therefore 

1001
00:56:20,830 --> 00:56:22,150
it's going to spend the longest 
time. 

1002
00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:26,110
So a whole generation of people 
are going to experience Pluto 

1003
00:56:26,110 --> 00:56:28,070
being in one sign. 
And that's why they're called, 

1004
00:56:28,070 --> 00:56:30,550
like generational planets. 
Yeah. 

1005
00:56:30,670 --> 00:56:36,670
And there's also this idea of 
whole societies experiencing 

1006
00:56:36,670 --> 00:56:41,950
Pluto, right? 
We had recently the US's Pluto 

1007
00:56:41,950 --> 00:56:49,480
return in Capricorn, and so that
meant we had a experience of 

1008
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:58,960
deaths, separation and endings, 
with Capricorn being of like 

1009
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,280
resources and like money. 
So if you see Pluto and 

1010
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,120
Capricorn, you might see a 
depression. 

1011
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:08,360
That's a common connection. 
As an example. 

1012
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,210
OK, so these are again personal 
planets, transpersonal planets 

1013
00:57:15,250 --> 00:57:17,930
and what we call social or 
generational planets. 

1014
00:57:17,930 --> 00:57:19,850
And then of course we also have 
the luminaries. 

1015
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:24,570
So these planetary energies also
could be traced. 

1016
00:57:24,850 --> 00:57:27,890
You know, their stories and 
their naming conventions come 

1017
00:57:27,890 --> 00:57:29,970
after gods. 
These are both Greek and Roman 

1018
00:57:29,970 --> 00:57:31,210
gods. 
They're mixed up in there, 

1019
00:57:31,450 --> 00:57:34,250
although I think most people 
understand that Greek and Roman 

1020
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:39,770
gods are quite similar, but they
have these kind of shared myths 

1021
00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:45,300
around the gods, right? 
Mars, being the God of War, 

1022
00:57:46,460 --> 00:57:50,540
embodies the energies of Mars. 
Additionally, I would say that 

1023
00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:52,700
there's another way to think 
about the planets or to 

1024
00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:56,140
understand the planets and that 
is with this kind of like energy

1025
00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:59,500
model contrasted with this like 
myth based model. 

1026
00:57:59,980 --> 00:58:03,140
So this energetic and there's 
lots of different philosophies 

1027
00:58:03,140 --> 00:58:05,780
and ways of understanding and 
schools of thought around 

1028
00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:09,260
astrology, where it's not 
necessarily about the houses or 

1029
00:58:09,260 --> 00:58:12,140
interpretations of things 
differently, calculating charts 

1030
00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:14,300
differently. 
It's like how you think about 

1031
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:21,380
these energies. 
So for an energy, as I was just 

1032
00:58:21,380 --> 00:58:25,460
describing the difference 
between Jupiter and Saturn, we 

1033
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:30,460
have the energy of Jupiter being
one of expansion. 

1034
00:58:31,060 --> 00:58:36,660
More multiply, get more right? 
And then we have the energy of 

1035
00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:45,780
Saturn as being shrinking or 
pulling in or making less of, if

1036
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:49,340
that makes sense. 
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

1037
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:52,620
And I think the energetic model 
is a really easy way to help 

1038
00:58:53,140 --> 00:58:56,300
kind of simplify some of these 
thoughts because you can get 

1039
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:58,380
quite complex with how you 
understand planets. 

1040
00:58:58,980 --> 00:59:04,880
All right, moving on. 
There are also, beyond this, 

1041
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,720
these kind of understandings of 
planets. 

1042
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,920
There's also planets are thought
to have these like relationships

1043
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,840
with the Zodiac, which we 
already talked about, right. 

1044
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,640
Cancer has a relationship with 
the moon, and each of these 

1045
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:24,640
relationships could have been 
further identified as dignities.

1046
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840
This is like advanced kind of 
stuff, but it's still like 

1047
00:59:28,550 --> 00:59:31,990
one-on-one kind of stuff, right.
So if you've ever heard a oh, 

1048
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:37,910
that's the that planetary ruler 
or that's the planetary exile or

1049
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:43,430
detriment this is referred to. 
This whole idea is the idea of 

1050
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:45,910
the planetary dignities or 
essential dignities of the 

1051
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:48,910
planet. 
So there are four of them. 

1052
00:59:48,990 --> 00:59:53,230
Yeah. 
So there is the domicile or the 

1053
00:59:53,230 --> 00:59:56,680
detriment, right. 
So domicile is like good, 

1054
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:03,080
detriment is not as good. 
There's also this exaltation and

1055
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,920
fall, right? 
So exaltation is like great, 

1056
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320
amplified fall is not as 
amplified. 

1057
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,400
So to give you a definition 
here, the domicile or ruler of a

1058
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,080
planet in a specific sign 
expresses the truest nature of 

1059
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,600
that planet, right? 
So if we have, let's say. 

1060
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,440
Jupiter and Sagittarius, well, 
that is right at home. 

1061
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,880
That is the ruler of that sign. 
And when Jupiter is in 

1062
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,720
Sagittarius, it is going to be 
able to express itself most 

1063
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,640
fully. 
However, when it is not in its 

1064
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,280
ruler or domicile, it's in 
detriment or its fall. 

1065
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,320
The planet would struggle to 
express itself and it will find 

1066
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,200
unconventional ways to express 
itself. 

1067
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,080
And there's going to be some 
action. 

1068
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,320
So this isn't necessarily a bad 
thing. 

1069
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:58,560
Some people will say, Oh no, in 
my Natal chart I have Saturn in 

1070
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,360
Sagittarius, and that's a bad 
thing. 

1071
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,600
That's a hard angle. 
That's a negative thing because 

1072
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,800
it's not in it's, you know, 
domicile. 

1073
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,800
That's not true, right. 
It's just talking about the 

1074
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,880
planet is going to express 
itself differently in that sign.

1075
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,640
And if it isn't detriment, then 
it would be, you know, it would 

1076
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,400
find a really hard way to 
express. 

1077
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,120
It's kind of like expansion 
energy. 

1078
01:01:19,210 --> 01:01:22,930
So it may find kind of 
interesting ways to express that

1079
01:01:22,930 --> 01:01:27,450
energy and it could, you know, 
but there certainly is going to 

1080
01:01:27,450 --> 01:01:30,690
be action. 
The exaltation, similar to the 

1081
01:01:30,690 --> 01:01:35,210
domicile or ruler is where the 
planet is not just at home but 

1082
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:39,410
it is like amplified. 
And then the contrast of that is

1083
01:01:39,410 --> 01:01:41,730
when it's in its fall. 
So not only is it not 

1084
01:01:41,730 --> 01:01:46,010
comfortable, but it really 
creates challenge. 

1085
01:01:46,590 --> 01:01:51,590
And there's kind of like some 
guaranteed inaction where you're

1086
01:01:51,590 --> 01:01:53,390
going to find a lot of lessons, 
you're going to find a lot of 

1087
01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:55,390
wisdom. 
But there could be like 

1088
01:01:55,390 --> 01:02:00,750
manipulation, you know, or kind 
of just challenge, right 

1089
01:02:01,270 --> 01:02:03,190
involved. 
And maybe the fall is maybe the 

1090
01:02:03,230 --> 01:02:05,510
most negative version because 
there's not action. 

1091
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:07,030
I guess it depends on how you 
feel about action. 

1092
01:02:07,830 --> 01:02:11,510
But there is, yeah. 
So the planets and how they 

1093
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:16,270
relate to the signs have these 
essential dignity relationships 

1094
01:02:16,350 --> 01:02:20,670
where we are seeing it either be
fully expressed or amplified or 

1095
01:02:20,670 --> 01:02:25,230
challenged or really challenged,
if that makes sense. 

1096
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:28,110
Yeah. 
So for like the exaltation in 

1097
01:02:28,110 --> 01:02:32,790
the fall, is that determined by 
the degree to which it's in an 

1098
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:35,310
opposing sign or how? 
Like, yeah. 

1099
01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:38,590
So it's not about, it's not 
about the placements in contrast

1100
01:02:38,590 --> 01:02:41,880
to other things. 
It's literally just about this 

1101
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:47,520
planet is connected to this sign
and it complements or amplifies 

1102
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,600
that sign and when it is in this
other sign, it's just like the 

1103
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,200
energy of that sign and the 
energy of that planet are just 

1104
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,520
so contrast that it creates an 
issue. 

1105
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,600
So let's look at my little chart
that I have here. 

1106
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,960
So I have listed again, we're 
going to leave like the chart we

1107
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,320
have planets, how long they take
to orbit the sun in both months 

1108
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,840
and in years, what grouping they
fall into, whether it's this 

1109
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:19,120
personal social transpersonal 
luminary, their energy based on 

1110
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,200
that energetic model and what 
their ruler is and what their 

1111
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,920
exaltation is, what their exile 
and what their fall is. 

1112
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,040
OK, so let's look at, let's look
at Jupiter, since I've been 

1113
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,680
talking about friendly Jupiter, 
who wants the best for you and 

1114
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,120
wants more and more and more so 
the grouping. 

1115
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,700
This is a social planet. 
This is a planet of expansion as

1116
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:43,340
I said, rather than contraction 
like Saturn. 

1117
01:03:43,780 --> 01:03:49,060
And it's ruled by Sagittarius as
I've said, but it is exalted in 

1118
01:03:49,060 --> 01:03:51,260
Cancer. 
So when Jupiter gets into cancer

1119
01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:57,420
it is amplified more, more, 
more, more self-care, more love 

1120
01:03:57,420 --> 01:04:02,820
and yeah, sweetness. 
And then when we have Jupiter in

1121
01:04:02,820 --> 01:04:05,760
Gemini, that's when it is and 
not comfortable. 

1122
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,600
And there's something's gonna 
happen, right? 

1123
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,720
There's gonna be something 
that's some action that's gonna 

1124
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,600
be expressed in a like 
unconventional way, that energy.

1125
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,040
And then when it's in Capricorn,
there's gonna be some lessons 

1126
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,560
and it might get a little 
sinister. 

1127
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,720
I love that. 
I love that you lay this out 

1128
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,880
this way because this is how my 
brain works too. 

1129
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,600
So, like, someone could have 
written that all in a paragraph 

1130
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,960
and I'd have been like, I don't 
know, Yeah, yeah. 

1131
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:34,670
I mean, even when I'm talking 
about them, I'm like, are these 

1132
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:37,870
words helping or hurting? 
Yeah, let me reference the 

1133
01:04:37,870 --> 01:04:38,710
chart. 
Yeah. 

1134
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:43,150
So helpful. 
So maybe we need to just ask 

1135
01:04:43,150 --> 01:04:45,630
everybody to pull up the show 
notes and follow along. 

1136
01:04:47,710 --> 01:04:49,510
Do that. 
If you listen to this and you 

1137
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:52,150
got lost, go back, pull up the 
show notes. 

1138
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:55,470
Start over. 
Yeah, review the charts. 

1139
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,920
Okay, we are one hour in. 
I'm going to keep moving. 

1140
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,440
So we were just in Zodiac 
houses, planets. 

1141
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Now we're going into placements,
placements. 

1142
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,880
When I say placement, I'm 
referring to the position of a 

1143
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,480
planet, asteroid luminary or 
quote UN quote point of interest

1144
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,660
in the sky as it relates to 
other things, right. 

1145
01:05:18,660 --> 01:05:22,620
So when a placement is described
in a chart right, we would say, 

1146
01:05:22,620 --> 01:05:26,180
oh, you have Saturn in Aquarius 
at 12 degrees, that's the 

1147
01:05:26,180 --> 01:05:29,300
placement, right. 
However, there are these things 

1148
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:33,300
called mundane angles or we call
them intersections and this is 

1149
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:35,500
specifically of the birth chart 
there. 

1150
01:05:35,740 --> 01:05:39,220
Astrology goes far beyond 
obviously just Natal charts and 

1151
01:05:39,220 --> 01:05:42,060
birth charts. 
There's lots of reasons and uses

1152
01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:47,730
of astrology, but we do have 
some interesting details and 

1153
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:50,930
placements in a birth chart 
because it's about a point in 

1154
01:05:50,930 --> 01:05:55,010
time of an individual. 
So going into these points of 

1155
01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:58,370
interest, we have mundane angles
or intersections. 

1156
01:05:58,410 --> 01:06:01,490
We also have lunar nodes. 
I'm sure you've heard of that. 

1157
01:06:01,490 --> 01:06:04,610
I'm going to talk about those 
two things because these are the

1158
01:06:04,610 --> 01:06:08,410
most commonly described things. 
So when I'm saying mundane 

1159
01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:13,890
angles, I'm talking about the 
ascendant descendant, the mid 

1160
01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:18,150
heaven, and the immune immune 
coli. 

1161
01:06:18,790 --> 01:06:22,590
People just say I see and MC 
because that's a Latin word and 

1162
01:06:22,710 --> 01:06:27,110
it's real hard to say for me. 
So we have the Ascendant or the 

1163
01:06:27,110 --> 01:06:30,750
rising, we have the descendant, 
we have the MC and the IC. 

1164
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:36,110
If we create a horizontal access
through the center of someone's 

1165
01:06:36,110 --> 01:06:40,950
birth chart, this is going to be
the easternmost point in the 

1166
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:42,830
sky. 
Or if you're looking at a chart,

1167
01:06:42,830 --> 01:06:46,700
it's going to be the thing on 
the far left right and it is 

1168
01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:50,140
your ascendant and what it is 
describing is this point on the 

1169
01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:53,020
horizon at your time of birth. 
It is like the point of where 

1170
01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:57,180
the sky meets the ground and 
it's the exact time of your 

1171
01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,540
birth, right? 
Because things are going to move

1172
01:06:59,540 --> 01:07:03,100
potentially very quickly through
those different signs and change

1173
01:07:03,140 --> 01:07:04,780
often. 
So This is why you need your 

1174
01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:11,460
birth sign, birth time, in order
to find your rising and like 

1175
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:16,080
literally like right, my 
ascendant is Scorpia, right? 

1176
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,680
So when I was born, if you 
looked out, if you went outside 

1177
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,800
to the sky and you looked in the
easternmost point, you would 

1178
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,680
have seen the constellation of 
the Scorpion, right? 

1179
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,080
The Scorpio constellation, the 
little scorpion image, the 

1180
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,440
descendants, the other side, the
westernmost point and it is 

1181
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,280
again creating this horizontal 
axis. 

1182
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:43,090
Okay from the if you took a 
completely perpendicular angle 

1183
01:07:43,090 --> 01:07:47,970
here and drew another line 
making a perfect cross T 

1184
01:07:48,770 --> 01:07:51,890
intersecting, this would be the 
vertical axis. 

1185
01:07:52,050 --> 01:07:54,970
At the very top we have the mid 
heaven and at the very bottom we

1186
01:07:54,970 --> 01:07:57,210
have the icy. 
All right okay. 

1187
01:07:57,530 --> 01:07:59,850
So that's how you create those 
angles. 

1188
01:08:00,210 --> 01:08:03,370
What do they mean, Michelle? 
Well, that's a great question. 

1189
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:08,960
The Ascendant represents how you
project yourself. 

1190
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,720
The mask you wear, the skills 
you have, the talents you have, 

1191
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,320
the strategies that you're going
to adopt to navigate your life. 

1192
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,479
That's often the Rising sign, 
and we talk about these points 

1193
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,120
of interest in their zodiacal 
placement in their sign. 

1194
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,240
So I'm Scorpio, Rising, right? 
The descendant? 

1195
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,390
What is that? 
Leo rising. 

1196
01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:29,790
You know you're Leo rising, 
right? 

1197
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:36,590
So with that it is talking about
your beautiful hair cuz you 

1198
01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:38,630
forget that. 
Life is my charm. 

1199
01:08:38,790 --> 01:08:40,069
That's it. 
That's right. 

1200
01:08:41,109 --> 01:08:43,630
I mean, right. 
These strategies that you adopt,

1201
01:08:43,630 --> 01:08:44,950
charm people's pants off. 
I love it. 

1202
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:47,470
That's when you shine. 
That's how you adopt. 

1203
01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:49,670
I love it, Okay. 
So the descendant is the 

1204
01:08:49,670 --> 01:08:52,470
relationship is the thing that 
you're seeking in relationships 

1205
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:54,229
with others. 
Do you know what your descendant

1206
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:56,569
is? 
I don't and watch me immediately

1207
01:08:56,569 --> 01:09:01,609
pull up one of my 18 
astrological okay. 

1208
01:09:01,649 --> 01:09:03,930
So we have the 8th, the 
ascendant descendant. 

1209
01:09:03,930 --> 01:09:05,649
The ascendant is often called 
rising. 

1210
01:09:05,689 --> 01:09:07,609
We don't really call falling the
descendant. 

1211
01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:11,450
I don't know the MC or mid. 
Heaven is a person's public 

1212
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:16,050
life, maybe the standing career.
And probably more importantly it

1213
01:09:16,050 --> 01:09:19,569
describes the purpose in life. 
I've also heard this described 

1214
01:09:19,770 --> 01:09:23,979
as the thing that you're going 
towards in your life, whereas 

1215
01:09:23,979 --> 01:09:27,540
the I see is what you have 
brought into the this world 

1216
01:09:27,540 --> 01:09:29,500
naturally. 
So, like these are your 

1217
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:32,380
ancestors, your family roots, 
your home, your foundation. 

1218
01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:36,420
Good on that. 
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out 

1219
01:09:36,420 --> 01:09:38,899
my descendant, but that that's 
not even in here. 

1220
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:43,260
It has ascendant in mid heaven, 
it has innode and chyron, but 

1221
01:09:43,340 --> 01:09:45,260
that those aren't the same 
things we're going to talk about

1222
01:09:45,260 --> 01:09:47,020
that. 
It's just it's literally the 

1223
01:09:47,060 --> 01:09:49,260
opposite. 
So if you go directly across 

1224
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:51,740
from your Leo, let me figure 
this out. 

1225
01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:56,740
So if I go 6 steps, 123, well, 
we're not doing right now. 

1226
01:09:58,020 --> 01:09:59,620
I'll calculate this later. 
All right, we're going around 

1227
01:09:59,660 --> 01:10:00,940
time. 
We're going to do a whole. 

1228
01:10:00,940 --> 01:10:02,980
We're going to do a whole, whole
rundown of your stuff. 

1229
01:10:03,260 --> 01:10:06,020
But these are points of interest
that these are not planets, 

1230
01:10:06,020 --> 01:10:08,220
these are not houses, These are 
not signs. 

1231
01:10:08,220 --> 01:10:10,140
These are like points of 
interest that we have 

1232
01:10:10,140 --> 01:10:12,700
identified. 
Another point of interest is 

1233
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:16,220
going to be our lunar nodes. 
Have you heard of your like 

1234
01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:21,310
South node and N node? 
Yes, I literally had the north 

1235
01:10:21,310 --> 01:10:21,910
node. 
Yeah. 

1236
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:23,550
Yeah. 
There's a S node, yeah. 

1237
01:10:23,710 --> 01:10:25,950
And they're represented in your 
chart with these little, like, 

1238
01:10:27,070 --> 01:10:29,910
horseshoes that are like, upside
down or right side up. 

1239
01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:34,950
I had no clue what a lunar node 
was forever. 

1240
01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:37,190
I knew what it meant, and I knew
it's important, but I had no 

1241
01:10:37,190 --> 01:10:39,750
idea. 
It's literally like if the sun 

1242
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:43,070
has, if you could draw the 
representation of the sun's 

1243
01:10:43,070 --> 01:10:45,830
rotation around the Earth. 
That's not how it works, but the

1244
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:50,720
visual movement of the sun 
around the Earth and the visual 

1245
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,440
movement of the moon as it goes 
around the Earth. 

1246
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,680
The intersection of those things
at the time of your birth is 

1247
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,080
your lunar nodes. 
So again, this is another thing 

1248
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,680
that you're going to need if you
have like you need your time of 

1249
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,560
birth to be able to calculate 
accurately your South and N 

1250
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:08,960
node. 
Interesting. 

1251
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,760
Okay. 
So, and I also have this really 

1252
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,240
nice little diagram that I found
that I'll include in the notes 

1253
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:19,860
as well that shows that inner 
the intersection between the 

1254
01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:23,500
sun's path and the moon's path. 
Yeah, and they meet up twice. 

1255
01:11:23,540 --> 01:11:25,740
Right, perfect. 
Yeah that make sure it makes a 

1256
01:11:25,780 --> 01:11:27,100
lot of sense. 
Love it. 

1257
01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:32,420
OK so the the north node is 
these is what you're reaching 

1258
01:11:32,420 --> 01:11:35,260
towards the the north node and 
and South node I've heard is 

1259
01:11:35,260 --> 01:11:39,100
like a dragon and the north node
is what you're reaching for and 

1260
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:42,780
like this is your fullest 
potential and the South node is 

1261
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:45,980
the things that you need to 
release leave behind. 

1262
01:11:45,980 --> 01:11:47,660
You already brought that into 
this world. 

1263
01:11:47,820 --> 01:11:50,860
That's a part of your maybe 
karma that you're having to let 

1264
01:11:50,860 --> 01:11:53,100
go of. 
If you believe in karma, it's 

1265
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:57,140
going to depict often energies 
and emotions the relationships 

1266
01:11:57,140 --> 01:12:00,300
that you've had in your past and
potentially in your past life. 

1267
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:02,740
Cool. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1268
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:05,260
I'm following along. 
Love it. 

1269
01:12:05,460 --> 01:12:07,460
Where's your N node? 
Do you know that one? 

1270
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:11,020
It says I'm in Capricorn. 
It's one of my only. 

1271
01:12:11,500 --> 01:12:13,380
Well actually I have. 
I have a couple Capricorn 

1272
01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:15,740
placements in my truck, but you 
have that. 

1273
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,560
I love that. 
So as you climb that hill, as 

1274
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:26,520
you continue to focus on 
stability and monetary gain and 

1275
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,360
work ethic, then you're reaching
and you're manifesting your 

1276
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,480
fullest potential. 
So this makes so sense. 

1277
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,560
So much sense around like your 
desire for consistency because 

1278
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,320
that's part of your N node. 
Vibes must have, must have, do 

1279
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,480
not know how to operate. 
Otherwise, you are no. 

1280
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:44,770
But I mean, so like, but this is
amazing, right? 

1281
01:12:44,770 --> 01:12:48,450
I don't know if the younger 
version of you had this track or

1282
01:12:48,450 --> 01:12:50,970
found value in those kinds of 
qualities. 

1283
01:12:51,210 --> 01:12:52,850
Is that something that you found
over time? 

1284
01:12:53,170 --> 01:12:55,850
I think it's yeah. 
I think it's something because I

1285
01:12:55,890 --> 01:12:59,010
didn't grow up with that. 
And so something I put a lot of 

1286
01:12:59,010 --> 01:13:01,370
value in is consistency and 
stability. 

1287
01:13:01,810 --> 01:13:03,890
Yeah, Yeah. 
Well, then you are living your 

1288
01:13:03,890 --> 01:13:06,910
best life. 
Astrology says okay. 

1289
01:13:06,910 --> 01:13:11,430
So those are, those are 
additional placements that one 

1290
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,750
could have where we would see 
signs, right. 

1291
01:13:14,750 --> 01:13:18,830
So all of these, you know, you 
don't say like, oh, I have Mars 

1292
01:13:18,830 --> 01:13:20,390
on my N node. 
You don't say that, right? 

1293
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:25,190
You would say I have whatever, I
have Aries on my N node. 

1294
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:28,070
So you refer to these placements
and there's a die call 

1295
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:29,510
placement. 
Cool. 

1296
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:33,350
Got it. 
I feel like I'm a baby 

1297
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:35,030
astrologer. 
Yeah. 

1298
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:37,350
Yeah. 
I mean, just knowing like what 

1299
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:41,430
the fuck a lunar note is, is 
like, yeah, you're you're beyond

1300
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:46,110
where I was 2 weeks ago. 
So there's not okay. 

1301
01:13:46,110 --> 01:13:51,470
So aspects for me are the thing 
that I have pushed off and will 

1302
01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:53,910
continue to push off until I 
feel super comfortable with 

1303
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:57,670
other topics. 
Because this literally is just 

1304
01:13:57,670 --> 01:14:01,550
another layer of this 
astrological onion, yes. 

1305
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,960
And I have heard of these two 
and this is the part in those 

1306
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,400
apps that I skip over. 
Yeah, cuz I'm like I don't even 

1307
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:08,720
know what to do with this 
information. 

1308
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:10,640
You shouldn't do anything with 
it. 

1309
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:14,160
And I would say that until 
everything else makes total 

1310
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,960
sense and you can say you have 
the son in the 1st House of 

1311
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,520
Aries and you know what the fuck
that means? 

1312
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,120
Until you know what that means, 
don't move forward, right. 

1313
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,670
All right. 
So however, just to hold space 

1314
01:14:26,670 --> 01:14:30,350
for this idea, so that I think 
this is still 101 in my opinion,

1315
01:14:30,510 --> 01:14:34,550
if like maybe this is the final 
part of this is when you get to 

1316
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:38,550
the end of your 101 class. 
But these aspects describe the 

1317
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:40,950
relationships between the 
planets and the points of 

1318
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:44,150
interest, right? 
So it could say we can look at 

1319
01:14:44,150 --> 01:14:46,870
how where is the placement of 
Saturn and Jupiter. 

1320
01:14:47,070 --> 01:14:49,110
We could say where is the 
placement of Saturn in 

1321
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:54,110
relationship to your N node, 
What is the aspect of those two 

1322
01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:55,950
planets? 
Aspects are angles. 

1323
01:14:55,950 --> 01:14:58,910
This is where geometry. 
People talk about geometry. 

1324
01:14:59,270 --> 01:15:00,830
I'm like, it's not really that 
big of a deal. 

1325
01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:04,270
It's not a big deal. 
Don't talk about aspects and the

1326
01:15:04,270 --> 01:15:06,750
degrees, just talk about them 
like what shape are they making?

1327
01:15:06,750 --> 01:15:08,790
Are they making a square shape? 
Are they making a triangle 

1328
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:10,830
shape? 
Are they on top of each other? 

1329
01:15:10,910 --> 01:15:12,430
Right. 
Don't make it complicated. 

1330
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:17,070
OK. 
So these are certainly the 

1331
01:15:17,070 --> 01:15:22,350
degrees of influence are you 
know what we call these aspects,

1332
01:15:22,510 --> 01:15:25,950
there are more than these five 
primary that we're going over. 

1333
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:28,950
But again because we're in a 
101, we're going to keep it to 

1334
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:32,270
just these five aspects. 
There are more, yes, there are 

1335
01:15:32,270 --> 01:15:33,950
more. 
Can you Can you believe it, 

1336
01:15:33,950 --> 01:15:36,710
There's like five more, I'm not 
sure. 

1337
01:15:37,390 --> 01:15:40,590
So let's the general, these are 
the generally used referred to, 

1338
01:15:40,590 --> 01:15:44,750
you've heard this before aspects
of relationships of planets and 

1339
01:15:44,750 --> 01:15:47,350
positions. 
So conjunction this is when 

1340
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:52,340
there's zero bit of an angle and
maybe like 1 degree 2 degrees. 

1341
01:15:52,340 --> 01:15:56,020
I don't remember exactly where 
the drop off this year but they 

1342
01:15:56,020 --> 01:15:58,860
would be often like within 30 
degrees of each other. 

1343
01:15:58,860 --> 01:16:01,660
I believe is I'll have to double
check that See, I don't know I'm

1344
01:16:01,660 --> 01:16:05,700
going to make a little note 
question mark what is where does

1345
01:16:05,700 --> 01:16:09,380
it not become conjunct okay. 
So this is when we're combining 

1346
01:16:09,380 --> 01:16:12,660
the energies. 
So we know we've been talking 

1347
01:16:12,660 --> 01:16:18,600
about Mars. 
Mars has this energizing speed 

1348
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:25,160
up projection energy, right? 
And when and the moon is 

1349
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:31,840
described as maybe unseen, 
emotional, maternal, past 

1350
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,560
influences. 
When we have a conjunction of 

1351
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:41,080
Mars and the moon, we are 
combining those energies. 

1352
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:46,920
So we're getting maybe an 
aggressive emotion, aggressive, 

1353
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,960
you know, maybe conflict with 
your mom, I don't know. 

1354
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,400
Broad strokes. 
That makes sense. 

1355
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,560
We're combining those energies. 
When we have opposition, which 

1356
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:01,120
is the opposite, then this is 
going to create tension. 

1357
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,280
But the tension's not 
necessarily a bad thing, right? 

1358
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,440
It could lead to empathy, or it 
could lead to insecurity, but 

1359
01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:07,600
it's going to create some 
tension. 

1360
01:17:08,210 --> 01:17:13,170
OK, so whereas we might be 
combining energies with Mars and

1361
01:17:13,570 --> 01:17:16,730
the Moon, if we contrasted 
those, that would be way more 

1362
01:17:16,730 --> 01:17:20,050
dramatic, right? 
Where you could just be like 

1363
01:17:20,370 --> 01:17:24,330
giving your emotions more space 
and focusing on your emotions 

1364
01:17:24,330 --> 01:17:29,050
more, because Mars is conjunct 
your moon and that becomes a 

1365
01:17:29,050 --> 01:17:30,770
focus that you're putting energy
towards. 

1366
01:17:30,970 --> 01:17:33,250
If they are opposed, maybe 
that's when we actually have a 

1367
01:17:33,370 --> 01:17:39,990
fight with our mom. 
OK, great, squaring, let's say 

1368
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:43,230
that's 90 degrees, right? 
Making a little square angle. 

1369
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:46,910
This creates tension, which 
could lead to action or 

1370
01:17:46,910 --> 01:17:50,270
learning. 
So again, this is a quote, UN 

1371
01:17:50,270 --> 01:17:52,590
quote negative angle because 
it's not supporting it. 

1372
01:17:52,990 --> 01:17:56,950
The others support, right? 
Maybe the most negative angles, 

1373
01:17:56,950 --> 01:18:00,270
there's going to be this 
opposition and the square. 

1374
01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:01,990
How do we contrast those two 
things? 

1375
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:05,990
Well, when we have tension with 
opposition, it could lead to 

1376
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:08,150
empathy, but it could also lead 
to insecurity. 

1377
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:12,070
When we have, it is a far more 
friendly angle. 

1378
01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:15,750
The square position is right 
because this is going to lead to

1379
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:20,270
action or learning. 
Then we have trying and sex 

1380
01:18:20,270 --> 01:18:22,030
style. 
So altogether it's our 

1381
01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:27,430
conjunction, opposition, square,
triangle and sex style, which is

1382
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:29,970
this Pretty Little star glyph, 
right? 

1383
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:33,290
So the trying supports other 
energies and relieves the 

1384
01:18:33,290 --> 01:18:35,850
frictions right? 
So they're going to not only 

1385
01:18:35,850 --> 01:18:37,970
combine them, but it's going to 
support each other. 

1386
01:18:38,290 --> 01:18:42,090
Maybe not as much as a 
conjunction would, but it's a 

1387
01:18:42,370 --> 01:18:46,530
positive angle. 
The sex style being 60 degrees, 

1388
01:18:46,530 --> 01:18:49,410
the trying being 120. 
This is also going to support 

1389
01:18:49,450 --> 01:18:52,090
these energies and can be 
thought of creating new 

1390
01:18:52,090 --> 01:18:53,330
opportunities. 
Do I don't know what the fuck 

1391
01:18:53,330 --> 01:18:54,250
that means? 
No, I don't. 

1392
01:18:56,210 --> 01:18:59,130
But we're not there yet. 
But I can at least tell you what

1393
01:18:59,130 --> 01:19:03,330
it means because I wrote it down
on a little chart okay. 

1394
01:19:04,410 --> 01:19:09,010
So I have gone through the 
Zodiac, the houses, the planets 

1395
01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:13,890
placements and these little 
points of interest and aspects 

1396
01:19:15,050 --> 01:19:19,010
I'm going to that's all of our 
like, you know, charts and 

1397
01:19:19,530 --> 01:19:21,210
variables that we're going to 
touch on. 

1398
01:19:22,010 --> 01:19:24,690
Are there other asteroids like 
Chyron? 

1399
01:19:25,470 --> 01:19:27,070
Are there other points of 
interest? 

1400
01:19:27,150 --> 01:19:29,710
Absolutely. 
But we're gonna put a pin in 

1401
01:19:29,710 --> 01:19:33,790
that and say that's 201. 
Right, right. 

1402
01:19:34,510 --> 01:19:36,030
No, cuz I think that's the 
important. 

1403
01:19:36,030 --> 01:19:37,670
Yeah, that's the important 
thing. 

1404
01:19:38,150 --> 01:19:41,070
Yeah. 
You have to create boundaries 

1405
01:19:41,070 --> 01:19:42,790
when you're trying to understand
a system. 

1406
01:19:44,890 --> 01:19:47,290
You can't learn to drive a car 
and build a car at the same 

1407
01:19:47,290 --> 01:19:48,890
time, right? 
So like, we're going to create 

1408
01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:50,650
and say, hey, these are the 
things we're looking at. 

1409
01:19:50,650 --> 01:19:52,930
We're going to look at houses, 
we're going to look at planetary

1410
01:19:52,930 --> 01:19:54,250
placements. 
We're look at these points of 

1411
01:19:54,250 --> 01:19:56,170
interest. 
We're going to look at the house

1412
01:19:56,170 --> 01:19:58,730
systems as they relate to 
constellations. 

1413
01:19:58,890 --> 01:20:02,250
We're going to choose a really 
easy house system to look at, 

1414
01:20:02,890 --> 01:20:04,850
right. 
And so on. 

1415
01:20:06,610 --> 01:20:09,370
OK, I feel like that was all 
very, like, digestible. 

1416
01:20:09,370 --> 01:20:12,960
Like my brain is like, oh, that 
was some dots you hadn't 

1417
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,840
connected before. 
This makes a little bit more 

1418
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,360
sense now, OK? 
OK. 

1419
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,040
What was an AHA for you? 
What was the biggest? 

1420
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,960
Aha, I think one. 
And I now I go back to the 

1421
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:29,480
conversations that we had with 
Joseph, the astrologer, and I 

1422
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:31,600
was looking at my Natal chart 
and I'm trying to follow him 

1423
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,440
along. 
It was that not all systems, the

1424
01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:41,110
houses and the Zodiacs lineup. 
So I'm like looking at these 

1425
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:43,430
things and trying to find them 
and I'm like, I don't know where

1426
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:45,190
the 1st house is because I don't
know. 

1427
01:20:45,190 --> 01:20:47,150
I don't know what I'm looking 
at, like I don't know what I'm 

1428
01:20:47,150 --> 01:20:51,230
looking at. 
So I I think understanding why 

1429
01:20:51,230 --> 01:20:53,790
people use whole sign now makes 
a lot more sense because that 

1430
01:20:53,790 --> 01:20:56,190
would be just another layer that
my brain would not know how to 

1431
01:20:56,190 --> 01:20:59,510
hold additional space for. 
I think it's easier to 

1432
01:20:59,510 --> 01:21:01,270
consolidate those two things 
mentally. 

1433
01:21:01,350 --> 01:21:04,690
For me, the math math's better 
that way, yeah. 

1434
01:21:06,010 --> 01:21:09,970
Yeah, it's just like, can we 
simplify these variables until 

1435
01:21:09,970 --> 01:21:13,810
we're ready to digest a more 
complex layer of the onion? 

1436
01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:17,530
Cool. 
All right, well, that's going to

1437
01:21:17,530 --> 01:21:21,090
be our end of our air section. 
Now we're going to go into fire.

1438
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:26,140
In this section, right, I'm 
going to talk about just quickly

1439
01:21:26,140 --> 01:21:28,940
the different types of astrology
or uses of astrology. 

1440
01:21:28,940 --> 01:21:31,980
And then I'd love to just give 
some kind of conversational 

1441
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:36,500
suggestions in my opinion of how
to evaluate astrologers for your

1442
01:21:36,500 --> 01:21:38,980
own reading. 
And that actually kind of 

1443
01:21:38,980 --> 01:21:42,220
talking about how astrologers, 
how to find astrologer and how 

1444
01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:47,060
to think about astrology from 
the maybe consumer standpoint. 

1445
01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:49,430
I had not really thought about 
that until I was talking about 

1446
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:51,710
it with a friend of mine. 
And I'm like, yeah, there really

1447
01:21:51,710 --> 01:21:54,630
is a lot of nuance there of like
how to choose the right 

1448
01:21:54,630 --> 01:21:57,990
astrologer or what is the 
benefit or detriment of choosing

1449
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:59,790
a different astrologer. 
So I'm excited to talk about 

1450
01:21:59,790 --> 01:22:00,470
that. 
Yeah. 

1451
01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:04,030
OK. 
So there are, you know, I'm 

1452
01:22:04,670 --> 01:22:07,470
going to give broad strokes 
again, kind of the most basic 

1453
01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:08,910
understandings of different 
types. 

1454
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:13,910
When we talk about astrology, 
everybody is so concentrated on 

1455
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:16,910
like personal Natal astrology 
because that's what they hear. 

1456
01:22:17,550 --> 01:22:19,670
Right. 
They often hear like I'm a 

1457
01:22:19,670 --> 01:22:21,950
Scorpio, right? 
I'm a Scorpio Rising. 

1458
01:22:22,430 --> 01:22:27,110
And they may hear I have Mars in
my 10th house, right. 

1459
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:31,030
They could hear that. 
But the amount of time, 

1460
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:34,350
somebody's just talking about 
general transits, like, hey 

1461
01:22:34,350 --> 01:22:37,470
everybody, Mars just moved into 
Virgo. 

1462
01:22:37,470 --> 01:22:42,590
We're all going to potentially 
feel this is, you know, looking 

1463
01:22:42,590 --> 01:22:45,190
at current transits. 
That's not about personal 

1464
01:22:45,190 --> 01:22:46,280
astrology. 
Right. 

1465
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:47,760
I mean it's going to relate to 
that, but it's different. 

1466
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,760
So other than these personal 
Natal charts, we could look at 

1467
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:58,320
different types of electional, 
mundane, maybe analysis of 

1468
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,080
patterns and cycles or this 
historical astrology, we could 

1469
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,120
look at medical astrology and 
relational astrology. 

1470
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,440
Those are the ones I'm going to 
talk about. 

1471
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:13,240
And the first one is this Hauri 
Hauri it looks that would have 

1472
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,150
said. 
For very, I don't know. 

1473
01:23:17,150 --> 01:23:20,310
I tried to get the definition 
like or the pronunciation rather

1474
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:24,150
off of Google and it still 
didn't help. 

1475
01:23:24,830 --> 01:23:32,230
But it's. 
Yeah, HORARYHORARY. 

1476
01:23:32,230 --> 01:23:34,830
Yeah, I don't know. 
So this is one of the earliest 

1477
01:23:34,830 --> 01:23:36,390
forms of astrology. 
What? 

1478
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:37,990
It didn't start with personal 
astrology. 

1479
01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:40,470
No girl. 
That was like a much, much later

1480
01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:43,040
invention. 
It's, you know, this form of 

1481
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,440
astrology is still very much 
practiced today. 

1482
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,720
And what does it do? 
Well, it looks to answer a 

1483
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,920
question. 
It looks to create an answer 

1484
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,080
that is either positive or 
negative, but also provide like 

1485
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,760
the influences and insights that
a queer rent should consider on 

1486
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,920
the topic. 
This is, it would analyze the 

1487
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:08,840
stars and the you know all of 
the other variables. 

1488
01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:12,500
At the time that the question 
was being presented. 

1489
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:15,260
So it takes a snapshot. 
You know with the Natal 

1490
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:17,100
astrology, it takes a snapshot 
when you're born. 

1491
01:24:17,660 --> 01:24:20,220
Astrology is for this form are 
going to take a snapshot when 

1492
01:24:20,220 --> 01:24:22,780
you ask the question and then 
look at all of the different 

1493
01:24:22,780 --> 01:24:26,740
transits that are happening and 
give you an answer like yes, you

1494
01:24:26,740 --> 01:24:30,740
should do that, maybe no, don't 
do this and consider all these 

1495
01:24:30,740 --> 01:24:34,460
other things. 
Whereas electional astrology is 

1496
01:24:34,620 --> 01:24:36,380
doesn't seek to give you a yes 
or no. 

1497
01:24:36,810 --> 01:24:39,130
But rather, it's trying to tell 
you the best time for something 

1498
01:24:39,130 --> 01:24:45,570
to take place, right? 
So should I marry John the Hari 

1499
01:24:45,890 --> 01:24:49,330
Hari? 
Astrology is gonna tell you yes 

1500
01:24:49,330 --> 01:24:51,570
or no or some things to 
consider, whereas election will 

1501
01:24:51,570 --> 01:24:54,610
tell you when to marry them. 
Like you're having a winter 

1502
01:24:54,610 --> 01:24:56,290
wedding. 
That's the time to do it. 

1503
01:24:56,910 --> 01:24:58,750
Exactly. 
Other things for electional 

1504
01:24:58,750 --> 01:25:01,950
astrology could be, you know, 
looking at the fortuitous, I 

1505
01:25:01,950 --> 01:25:05,110
can't say that word, fortuitous 
times around things like 

1506
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:09,950
weddings, proposals, maybe, like
breaking ground on construction,

1507
01:25:10,430 --> 01:25:13,470
starting a business, etcetera. 
Starting a podcast. 

1508
01:25:13,470 --> 01:25:19,110
We should look at our electional
astrology for that, for when we 

1509
01:25:19,110 --> 01:25:21,110
started our podcast. 
That would be fun. 

1510
01:25:21,190 --> 01:25:22,510
I'm going to sneeze. 
Can I sneeze? 

1511
01:25:23,230 --> 01:25:26,050
Thank you. 
I think you should just sneeze 

1512
01:25:26,050 --> 01:25:27,570
off mute. 
I think we should all just. 

1513
01:25:27,570 --> 01:25:31,970
Experience that I sneezed so 
loud that my sound bowls rang. 

1514
01:25:34,930 --> 01:25:39,170
Okay that was, the vibrations 
are coming off of you at such 

1515
01:25:39,170 --> 01:25:42,650
high magnitude right now, your 
frequency is so high. 

1516
01:25:44,250 --> 01:25:46,010
Man. 
All right, so elect. 

1517
01:25:46,010 --> 01:25:50,300
We have these, Ari. 
Someone, someone smarter than us

1518
01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:53,020
is gonna know that. 
And I hope that they're laughing

1519
01:25:53,020 --> 01:25:56,420
their asses off right now. 
At least I'm not trying to 

1520
01:25:56,420 --> 01:25:58,460
present it like, oh, this is 
totally how you say it. 

1521
01:25:58,460 --> 01:26:01,180
That's one of those words you 
like read 18 times you've never 

1522
01:26:01,180 --> 01:26:02,540
said out loud. 
And the first time you gotta 

1523
01:26:02,540 --> 01:26:04,060
talk about it to someone, you're
like, yeah. 

1524
01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:06,540
Oh shit. 
I have to say it out loud in my 

1525
01:26:06,540 --> 01:26:12,410
ring. 
Okay, so electional. 

1526
01:26:12,970 --> 01:26:15,050
Let's talk about mundane, so 
mundane. 

1527
01:26:15,170 --> 01:26:18,650
Astrology is talking and trying 
to predict or create some 

1528
01:26:19,290 --> 01:26:21,570
correlations between major world
events. 

1529
01:26:21,570 --> 01:26:25,330
So this you know. 
In this form, we would analyze 

1530
01:26:25,330 --> 01:26:29,170
historical cycles and patterns 
and try to identify. 

1531
01:26:30,290 --> 01:26:31,810
What may come in the future, 
right? 

1532
01:26:32,050 --> 01:26:33,290
So I'm going to give you an 
example. 

1533
01:26:33,290 --> 01:26:35,650
I don't know that this is 
totally perfect, but as an 

1534
01:26:35,650 --> 01:26:39,610
example, when I was looking up 
some of the mundane astrology we

1535
01:26:39,610 --> 01:26:46,490
had recently around COVID time 
and a Saturn Pluto conjunction. 

1536
01:26:47,130 --> 01:26:54,330
Saturn being boundaries rules, 
Pluto being ending of things 

1537
01:26:54,330 --> 01:26:56,810
like fucking table flipper, 
right? 

1538
01:26:57,450 --> 01:26:59,890
The last time this happened was 
in 1982. 

1539
01:27:00,550 --> 01:27:03,990
And this marked the emergence of
HIV and AIDS epidemic in the 

1540
01:27:03,990 --> 01:27:07,030
Western world. 
The same thing happened in 2020,

1541
01:27:07,550 --> 01:27:11,630
and this is happened to coincide
with the COVID pandemic. 

1542
01:27:12,110 --> 01:27:14,750
Interesting. 
Isn't that so interesting? 

1543
01:27:14,750 --> 01:27:16,750
Yeah. 
So while the conjunction hasn't 

1544
01:27:16,750 --> 01:27:19,390
historically always been 
connected with like this health 

1545
01:27:19,390 --> 01:27:24,590
centered crisis, there's 
generally unrest when these two.

1546
01:27:25,060 --> 01:27:29,660
Planets come into a conjunction.
There's a very popular book by 

1547
01:27:29,660 --> 01:27:36,900
this super academic person, 
Richard Tarnas, and he wrote 

1548
01:27:36,900 --> 01:27:41,340
this book Cosmos and Psyche, and
this is very, very popular in 

1549
01:27:41,340 --> 01:27:43,100
like all of the astrology world.
This is like. 

1550
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,240
One of the books that everybody 
reads when they first get into 

1551
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,720
it. 
The book is massive and it has 

1552
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,600
an academic tone. 
But this guy spent like 10 years

1553
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,560
researching and writing this, 
talking about a lot of these 

1554
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:00,480
kind of mundane astrology topics
and predictions and how these 

1555
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:04,320
kind of like how the cosmos 
relates to us and relates to 

1556
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,440
kind of history. 
Very interesting. 

1557
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:10,000
So, OK, so medical would be next
and this is? 

1558
01:28:10,450 --> 01:28:16,250
Just with the goal of helping to
identify potential points of of 

1559
01:28:16,250 --> 01:28:18,810
challenge, that's when they 
experience in their health. 

1560
01:28:18,850 --> 01:28:22,650
It's not going to give you a 
pinpoint like, oh, you're going 

1561
01:28:22,650 --> 01:28:25,930
to sprain your ankle in June of 
2020. 

1562
01:28:25,930 --> 01:28:26,930
That's not going to do that, 
right. 

1563
01:28:26,930 --> 01:28:30,130
It's going to say though, you 
could be experiencing some ankle

1564
01:28:30,130 --> 01:28:31,970
problems, so you should take 
care of your ankle. 

1565
01:28:32,690 --> 01:28:36,010
Interesting. 
And then yet another. 

1566
01:28:37,390 --> 01:28:40,830
Way astrology is used is 
relational, of course, right? 

1567
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:47,070
Everything has to go back to 
just just talking about love and

1568
01:28:47,070 --> 01:28:50,350
and sex, right? 
So there's two types that two 

1569
01:28:50,350 --> 01:28:54,470
ways maybe to analyze a 
relationship. 

1570
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:57,150
And this could be not just, you 
know, a romantic relationship. 

1571
01:28:57,150 --> 01:29:00,190
Could also be a partnership. 
Could be, you know, you and your

1572
01:29:00,190 --> 01:29:02,390
boss's connection. 
It could be you and your child's

1573
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:04,430
connection. 
So relationships are more than 

1574
01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:05,550
sex. 
Michelle, get over it. 

1575
01:29:05,550 --> 01:29:07,710
OK, Sorry. 
That's clearly where my mind 

1576
01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:09,230
went. 
It doesn't help that it looks to

1577
01:29:09,230 --> 01:29:16,390
be called synastry. 
So nasty, that does not help at 

1578
01:29:16,430 --> 01:29:17,630
all. 
Okay, yeah. 

1579
01:29:17,950 --> 01:29:19,950
So the first type is the 
synastry. 

1580
01:29:21,670 --> 01:29:25,750
Synastry got it. 
The synastry type, which is it 

1581
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:28,840
interprets. 
It has an interpretation where 

1582
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,560
you place one chart on top of 
each other, on the other, right?

1583
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,120
So one chart on top of the 
other. 

1584
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:40,480
And it's going to look at the 
aspects of the planets and of 

1585
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,760
course the houses and the 
Zodiac, and it's going to try to

1586
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,600
predict, you know, strengths and
weaknesses of this relationship.

1587
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,000
So it's looking at a lot of 
aspects. 

1588
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,560
We don't want to do that. 
Don't ask me anytime soon to do 

1589
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,920
a sinister reading. 
Okay, I will be asking you in 

1590
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,240
the next month. 
Can you? 

1591
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,320
I need like a year, but that's 
okay, all right. 

1592
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,240
The next system would be a 
composite. 

1593
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,640
So instead of looking at these 
aspects, it actually I mean 

1594
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,200
still is kind of like laying one
on top of the other to find the 

1595
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,440
midway point between them and 
then that midway point is 

1596
01:30:12,440 --> 01:30:14,790
analyzed. 
And when you say midway point, 

1597
01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:17,470
do you mean that horizontal line
or do you mean? 

1598
01:30:18,350 --> 01:30:22,510
No, I mean like okay, so in a 
circle because that's how the 

1599
01:30:22,510 --> 01:30:25,990
stars move and they actually 
move Winterson's or 

1600
01:30:25,990 --> 01:30:28,830
counterclockwise. 
I don't know if I knew that, 

1601
01:30:28,830 --> 01:30:34,830
Okay, yeah. 
They are going to. 

1602
01:30:34,830 --> 01:30:36,390
Am I saying that wrong? 
I don't know. 

1603
01:30:36,510 --> 01:30:40,320
I'm questioning everything now. 
Let's just redact that. 

1604
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,400
OK, so, but let's say we're 
looking at your Mars and my 

1605
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,640
Mars. 
We're going to find the halfway 

1606
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,040
point going around the Zodiac 
and find where that placement 

1607
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:52,840
is. 
And then that's going to be our 

1608
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:56,120
relational composite placement, 
OK, does. 

1609
01:30:57,440 --> 01:30:58,800
That make sense? 
Yeah. 

1610
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,640
I mean, yeah, as much sense as 
all this can make without, like,

1611
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,280
the practical application of us.
Like, all right, let's do the 

1612
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,710
thing, yeah. 
It's going to make as much sense

1613
01:31:07,710 --> 01:31:12,510
as it can while just talking 
about things, right? 

1614
01:31:13,230 --> 01:31:15,270
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And honestly, that's like the 

1615
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:18,390
fun thing is like when you start
to be like, okay, like, I 

1616
01:31:18,550 --> 01:31:22,110
logically understand these 
topics Now let me prove to 

1617
01:31:22,110 --> 01:31:24,870
myself, I do or don't by trying 
to calculate some things. 

1618
01:31:25,950 --> 01:31:29,470
But you know, and that's I think
generally whenever so many 

1619
01:31:29,630 --> 01:31:32,670
people are being introduced to 
astrology, there's always this 

1620
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:35,390
advice that like just think 
about your own chart. 

1621
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,280
Right. 
Don't think about like mundane 

1622
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:43,000
astrology or election astrology.
Just focus on Natal personal 

1623
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,360
astrology. 
Because you know yourself better

1624
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,240
than you know anyone else, 
right? 

1625
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,960
And so you can make these 
personal connections for 

1626
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,480
yourself. 
Once you have understood how to 

1627
01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:56,600
read your own chart, then you 
can start thinking about how 

1628
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,680
other people are presenting in 
their charts. 

1629
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,280
Yeah, now that makes a ton of 
sense. 

1630
01:32:03,050 --> 01:32:04,850
Yeah, just be selfish at first 
when you're learning. 

1631
01:32:05,290 --> 01:32:07,330
Yeah, that's how all learning 
should be. 

1632
01:32:07,850 --> 01:32:08,410
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1633
01:32:08,650 --> 01:32:10,010
All right. 
So those are all the uses. 

1634
01:32:10,010 --> 01:32:13,130
So we have this personal Natal 
chart. 

1635
01:32:13,130 --> 01:32:20,810
We have this, we have this 
electional, mundane and then we 

1636
01:32:20,810 --> 01:32:23,730
also have medical and 
relational. 

1637
01:32:23,770 --> 01:32:26,450
Those are all just examples. 
Of course there's more examples,

1638
01:32:26,450 --> 01:32:29,490
but those are the broad strokes.
One-on-one, second, fine. 

1639
01:32:30,730 --> 01:32:32,730
All right. 
So finally, you know we're all 

1640
01:32:33,610 --> 01:32:36,970
you're doing so good, Danny, 
you're staying so engaged here. 

1641
01:32:36,970 --> 01:32:39,930
It's only been an hour and 35 
minutes. 

1642
01:32:42,250 --> 01:32:44,010
This is perfect. 
This is okay. 

1643
01:32:44,090 --> 01:32:45,610
This is great. 
Okay. 

1644
01:32:45,970 --> 01:32:52,370
So last thing I'm gonna leave. 
With is How to find an 

1645
01:32:52,370 --> 01:32:56,010
Astrologer and like things to 
expect when you find an 

1646
01:32:56,010 --> 01:32:59,450
astrologer to do a reading for 
you generally. 

1647
01:32:59,490 --> 01:33:04,970
I mean readings can really vary 
widely in price from free if you

1648
01:33:04,970 --> 01:33:09,410
have people who are trying to 
learn astrology to $300.00 like 

1649
01:33:09,410 --> 01:33:14,360
it's not uncommon for A. 
Just straight up needle chart 

1650
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,160
interpretation to be that amount
of money because often these 

1651
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,680
people are spending just hours 
calculating this information. 

1652
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:25,000
So it's not at all, I mean too 
and how long did it take them to

1653
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,760
understand all of these layers 
of astrology like I would, I 

1654
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,920
mean I guess there is an upper 
end of what I would pay, but I 

1655
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,080
think there's a lot of takes, a 
lot of time. 

1656
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,960
So the first thing that I would 
say you should consider when 

1657
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,480
trying to find the right 
astrologer is. 

1658
01:33:42,010 --> 01:33:45,410
Just admit your level of 
understanding, right? 

1659
01:33:45,970 --> 01:33:49,610
And with that in mind, is it 
better for you to have an 

1660
01:33:49,650 --> 01:33:54,010
accurate reading, like the best,
most accurate reading from the 

1661
01:33:54,010 --> 01:33:59,370
most advanced, most experienced,
highly respected astrologer that

1662
01:33:59,370 --> 01:34:02,490
you won't understand what 
they're saying, but you trust 

1663
01:34:02,490 --> 01:34:06,210
what they say to be true? 
Or is it more valuable for you 

1664
01:34:06,210 --> 01:34:09,410
to be able to follow along with 
what someone say? 

1665
01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:13,950
Yeah. 
Because it is very unlikely that

1666
01:34:13,950 --> 01:34:18,710
you're going to find a advanced 
guru astrologer who's going to 

1667
01:34:18,710 --> 01:34:20,110
be able to dumb it down to your 
level. 

1668
01:34:21,750 --> 01:34:22,950
In my experience, that's what I 
found. 

1669
01:34:22,990 --> 01:34:26,110
Yeah, this reminds me so much. 
I had a calculus teacher Once 

1670
01:34:26,110 --> 01:34:27,630
Upon a time. 
Again, your girl's really bad at

1671
01:34:27,630 --> 01:34:29,110
math. 
I don't know how I've ended up 

1672
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:30,870
in this class. 
This is a bad life decision. 

1673
01:34:32,030 --> 01:34:37,410
And so I struggled in his class,
not just because it was 

1674
01:34:37,410 --> 01:34:39,370
calculus, because I was like, 
who? 

1675
01:34:39,410 --> 01:34:41,650
What is this guy teaching like I
don't understand. 

1676
01:34:42,170 --> 01:34:45,050
And then I found out that his 
degree was in applied 

1677
01:34:45,050 --> 01:34:48,690
mathematics, meaning the literal
application of the mathematics. 

1678
01:34:49,410 --> 01:34:54,450
He never anticipated or wanted 
to be a teacher of mathematics, 

1679
01:34:55,210 --> 01:34:59,810
and so he he could not explain 
the concepts in a way to teach 

1680
01:34:59,810 --> 01:35:01,810
me them. 
But he's fucking brilliant. 

1681
01:35:02,610 --> 01:35:04,130
But he could not explain it to 
me. 

1682
01:35:04,750 --> 01:35:08,870
And also like you wouldn't 
generally expect somebody who 

1683
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:14,510
has that type of maturity and 
who has that many years in this 

1684
01:35:14,510 --> 01:35:18,310
space to then also hold the 
class for you, right? 

1685
01:35:18,510 --> 01:35:19,710
Because that's what we're 
talking about. 

1686
01:35:20,150 --> 01:35:23,190
Like they would have to explain,
well here's what this planet 

1687
01:35:23,190 --> 01:35:25,030
does and here's what that planet
does. 

1688
01:35:25,310 --> 01:35:29,630
But with all that being said, if
you are trying to maybe. 

1689
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:34,320
Get a reading from someone who 
is a guru and you're okay with 

1690
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,200
the idea that you will not be 
able to follow along and you 

1691
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,640
will find value in following up 
on those ideas later. 

1692
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,480
And like learning something that
new, then it's great and that 

1693
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:45,960
makes total sense. 
But if it's going to frustrate 

1694
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:47,880
you because you don't know what 
they're talking about, then 

1695
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,280
that's probably not a good use 
of money. 

1696
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,000
What I would say to you is like 
generally in the different modes

1697
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,960
of delivery, right, you can do 
it in person, virtual, recorded 

1698
01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,960
or even like typed out 
interpretation. 

1699
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:05,360
Most generally they're going to 
give you notes or allow you to 

1700
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,600
record the session so that you 
can review it. 

1701
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:12,400
So for me, I had the first Natal
chart reading that I had was 

1702
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:17,400
with a woman who reads. 
Not only obviously, everything 

1703
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,040
that we're talking about here, 
and I had no idea. 

1704
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,320
Half of the time she was talking
about things, but she also does 

1705
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,960
interpretations around all of 
the asteroids. 

1706
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,960
And so she started talking about
serious and she started talking 

1707
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,080
about Demeter. 
I'm like, what do you mean? 

1708
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:33,480
What? 
What was happening? 

1709
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,080
What? 
We've never even realm. 

1710
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:38,290
Like I said, yeah, of mythology,
how we entered, what are we 

1711
01:36:38,290 --> 01:36:40,650
doing? 
And she's like, you should just 

1712
01:36:40,650 --> 01:36:43,050
know that your mother struggled 
with alcohol is like, oh, she 

1713
01:36:43,050 --> 01:36:43,810
did. 
You're right. 

1714
01:36:43,970 --> 01:36:47,690
And so she was amazing and 
accurate and perfect and I just 

1715
01:36:47,690 --> 01:36:49,250
had no fucking clue what she was
talking about. 

1716
01:36:49,610 --> 01:36:54,330
So, but I had a recording of it 
and listening back on it and as 

1717
01:36:54,330 --> 01:36:57,530
I, you know, continue to try to 
expand my knowledge base, it was

1718
01:36:57,530 --> 01:36:59,330
actually great. 
It was like a great resource 

1719
01:36:59,330 --> 01:37:02,690
that piqued my curiosity, gave 
me a reference point, and it was

1720
01:37:02,690 --> 01:37:03,970
valuable. 
But for other people it would 

1721
01:37:03,970 --> 01:37:07,150
probably be frustrating. 
The other thing to consider 

1722
01:37:07,150 --> 01:37:09,030
other than your level of 
understanding is your 

1723
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:11,870
personality, right? 
Are you somebody that likes to 

1724
01:37:11,870 --> 01:37:16,590
have it given to you straight? 
Are you somebody that gets going

1725
01:37:16,590 --> 01:37:19,950
to need some movement and 
flexibility in the 

1726
01:37:19,950 --> 01:37:24,390
interpretation to allow for your
natural expression of free will?

1727
01:37:24,910 --> 01:37:27,110
You know what is your How would 
you want someone to give you 

1728
01:37:27,110 --> 01:37:29,460
advice? 
And let's find an astrologer 

1729
01:37:29,460 --> 01:37:33,780
that reflects that style, right 
Joseph that we talked about at 

1730
01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:37,500
the Summer Magic Fest that we 
were connecting with Lovely, 

1731
01:37:37,500 --> 01:37:42,100
super fun guy is not not going 
to be so vague with his, like, 

1732
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:44,580
interpretations of things that 
you don't know what it means 

1733
01:37:45,020 --> 01:37:47,380
just because he's trying to 
avoid saying something and maybe

1734
01:37:47,380 --> 01:37:50,220
quote UN quote negative or quote
UN quote scary, right? 

1735
01:37:50,220 --> 01:37:52,380
Like, he's okay to say those 
things for me. 

1736
01:37:52,380 --> 01:37:54,220
That's that's that's what I 
need, right? 

1737
01:37:54,220 --> 01:37:58,190
I need somebody to be like okay.
Here's what could happen, and 

1738
01:37:58,510 --> 01:38:03,430
here's what to consider. 
Not there's a wild card in this 

1739
01:38:03,510 --> 01:38:06,590
area which could, you know, like
stop being vague. 

1740
01:38:06,630 --> 01:38:08,790
I would rather you tell me bad 
news than vague news. 

1741
01:38:10,190 --> 01:38:13,190
So personality okay. 
Finally, again, modes of 

1742
01:38:13,190 --> 01:38:15,470
delivery. 
You can have an inperson 

1743
01:38:15,470 --> 01:38:18,270
reading, you could have a 
virtual zoom reading, and you 

1744
01:38:18,270 --> 01:38:22,870
could potentially have somebody 
just record their them talking 

1745
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:25,310
about their interpretation 
without you being there or type 

1746
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:28,690
it up. 
Recordings, recordings, 

1747
01:38:28,690 --> 01:38:31,010
recordings. 
You should always be able to get

1748
01:38:31,010 --> 01:38:34,730
access to the recordings or some
type of notes. 

1749
01:38:34,770 --> 01:38:39,210
Generally they're going to give 
you copies of charts and make 

1750
01:38:39,210 --> 01:38:43,090
notes on your charts or 
something akin to that. 

1751
01:38:43,570 --> 01:38:48,570
But you should not expect to 
leave emptyhanded, nor should 

1752
01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:53,050
you expect to not be able to 
somehow record the information 

1753
01:38:53,050 --> 01:38:55,410
for future reference. 
So that's it. 

1754
01:38:56,130 --> 01:38:56,890
Kind of. 
Astrology. 

1755
01:38:56,890 --> 01:39:00,130
Did the whole thing. 
Look at you go. 

1756
01:39:00,170 --> 01:39:01,970
I feel like you just ran a 
marathon. 

1757
01:39:03,610 --> 01:39:07,130
Yeah, I mean it was a short, 
short marathon and you know, 

1758
01:39:07,130 --> 01:39:09,450
you're just make it, make it all
so simple and fun. 

1759
01:39:09,450 --> 01:39:11,610
So I'm sure it was more fun for 
me than for you. 

1760
01:39:11,730 --> 01:39:15,850
But no, I mean that that 
connected a lot of dots for me 

1761
01:39:15,850 --> 01:39:18,890
That like, I could read 18 books
about astrology. 

1762
01:39:18,890 --> 01:39:21,250
But I think I was probably only 
absorbing. 

1763
01:39:22,050 --> 01:39:23,850
I think. 
I think if I'm being kind to 

1764
01:39:23,850 --> 01:39:27,330
myself, maybe 20 to 25% of the 
knowledge. 

1765
01:39:27,330 --> 01:39:31,890
So this helped to like synopsize
a lot of ideas together and it's

1766
01:39:31,890 --> 01:39:35,450
so helpful just to be able to be
like, hey wait, what does that 

1767
01:39:35,450 --> 01:39:36,890
mean? 
Or hey, this is a question that 

1768
01:39:36,890 --> 01:39:38,410
popped up. 
Do I have to read five more 

1769
01:39:38,410 --> 01:39:40,770
chapters to get the answer to 
that question, you know? 

1770
01:39:40,770 --> 01:39:42,490
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, even from our 

1771
01:39:42,490 --> 01:39:45,250
conversation today, which I 
think is also another useful way

1772
01:39:45,250 --> 01:39:47,930
of learning is like interacting 
about these topics. 

1773
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,440
You prove to yourself what you 
do and don't know. 

1774
01:39:50,440 --> 01:39:54,480
Like I don't know how many 
degrees something could be 

1775
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:58,960
considered in conjunction with 
another body. 

1776
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:00,800
Right. 
So I'm like, great, I'm going to

1777
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:01,960
go look that up and figure it 
out. 

1778
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,720
But yeah, OK well, this has been
wonderful. 

1779
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:11,160
Next, tell us. 
Well, next we are going to be 

1780
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:15,960
covering the topics of. 
Water and earth. 

1781
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,120
So with water we're going to go 
over all of my really fun 

1782
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:20,960
history. 
I love good history, especially 

1783
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,600
when it comes to like a cold 
things. 

1784
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:28,840
So I'm excited to share that. 
And then I'm also going to along

1785
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,880
with the history I'm going to 
share like the thought leaders 

1786
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,480
in that space because it's just 
you know, we had a lot to cover 

1787
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:35,040
today. 
So cover some books that I would

1788
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,600
recommend for people or maybe 
popular. 

1789
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:42,200
Go to books and then in the 
earth topics. 

1790
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:48,560
I want to probably primarily 
focus on some real life 

1791
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,160
examples. 
So I think that's when we could 

1792
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,400
go into some of our chart 
analysis and kind of share some 

1793
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,880
of our chart stuff. 
Her eyebrows just went up, not 

1794
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:00,160
that anybody else cannot see, 
but her wonderfully belated 

1795
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,880
eyebrows just like so good. 
Yeah, so I should have put up. 

1796
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,240
Purchases for my birthday. 
I should have been like, Oh 

1797
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:11,540
yeah, I purchased eyebrows for 
the first time and they look 

1798
01:41:11,540 --> 01:41:13,220
amazing. 
It's such a good investment. 

1799
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:15,940
But yeah, so I want to go over 
just kind of like the 

1800
01:41:15,940 --> 01:41:21,500
applications of these things and
why would you like, why even 

1801
01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:23,860
care about astrology and how 
would you interact you know, how

1802
01:41:23,860 --> 01:41:26,540
would you use this to inform 
some of your decisions in life. 

1803
01:41:26,980 --> 01:41:29,900
And then I think also how to 
deal with because right Earth is

1804
01:41:29,900 --> 01:41:34,660
like reality integration but 
also challenges like what is the

1805
01:41:34,660 --> 01:41:39,840
argument against astrology? 
How could you potentially not 

1806
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,760
defend, but maybe give a clarity
as to how people like the 

1807
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:48,800
philosophy of, like how people 
think of astrology and maybe, 

1808
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:53,080
you know, explain that to your 
partner or your aunt who thinks 

1809
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,360
you're crazy for talking about 
Mars being in Gatorade, You 

1810
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,000
know, right. 
Yeah. 

1811
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,240
So do. 
That's in the microwave. 

1812
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,640
Again, catering. 
It's in the microwave. 

1813
01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:07,980
All right, well, I am super 
pumped. 

1814
01:42:07,980 --> 01:42:10,260
So one thank you for like 
synopsizing all this 

1815
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:12,500
information. 
I think those charts, if we can 

1816
01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:15,660
get them posted in the show 
notes, are gonna be unbelievably

1817
01:42:15,660 --> 01:42:18,940
helpful for people to reference 
and kind of wrap their mind 

1818
01:42:18,940 --> 01:42:22,260
around a topic that has so many 
different variables and slices 

1819
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:24,700
to it. 
So that is fantastic. 

1820
01:42:24,700 --> 01:42:27,460
But I am so pumped to get into 
the next section of this and 

1821
01:42:27,460 --> 01:42:31,000
feel like by the end of it. 
I might be able to call myself a

1822
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,840
beginner maybe. 
Maybe it's too soon, Maybe it's 

1823
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:37,320
too soon to say that, I think. 
No, I think you're definitely 

1824
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,480
yeah, right. 
So I don't know where lines get 

1825
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:46,200
drawn, but yeah, I'm happy to 
call myself a beginner also. 

1826
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:50,640
That is a solid lie you're an 
intermediary at. 

1827
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,320
I need more stages. 
I need like a neophyte, a 

1828
01:42:55,320 --> 01:43:02,770
dabbler, a person of interest. 
Love it all right? 

1829
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:08,010
Well, we will touch back shortly
and we'll be coming back with 

1830
01:43:08,010 --> 01:43:10,810
Part 2 of this of of kind of 
rounding out all of those 

1831
01:43:10,810 --> 01:43:12,810
topics. 
But in the meantime everybody 

1832
01:43:13,610 --> 01:43:16,090
bless it be and be well. 
Bye witches. 

1833
01:43:17,610 --> 01:43:28,590
Bye. 
I don't know.