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Do it Danny welcome back to to 
real witches. 

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I'm here with my opulent co-host
Oak and I'm here with my 

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dazzling co-host Dani and today 
we are tackling and or going to 

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be pummeled by the may be overly
ambitious, the topic of deity 

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worship with this abundance of 
overconfidence that we have. 

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So, let's dive into it. 
Let's do it. 

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I mean, this is the a perfect 
topic to follow our first 

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episode, which was about our 
faith five podcast. 

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And now we're going to go into 
the player transition of God's. 

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So let's talk about, you know, 
why are we kind of digging into 

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what might be a really giant 
topic to kind of take on and a 

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first episode, as we're going 
through the show notes, I think 

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it's abundantly clear to both of
us that this is kind of a really

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big topic, but I think for us 
both of us being in, Outer 

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Court. 
This is really repurposing a way

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of us exploring this topic, 
because for us, from a religious

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standpoint, this is where you 
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This is kind of where you start 
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kind of a secular Point. 
Yeah, sure. 

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Let's talk about tools. 
Let's, let's talk about 

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manifestation. 
Let's talk about meditation, but

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if we're coming from a religious
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makes the most sense, maybe. 
So this is witchcraft to Wicca 

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that that Transition into being 
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practitioners standpoint, this 
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learning about the gods 
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This is what the religions all 
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, and 
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for the fact that there are a 
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practice Witchcraft and what it 
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that's valid and there. 
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who are not Wicked and also 
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And that's valid to and we are 
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practicing, which is who are 
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can gods and yeah God's the 
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Yeah. 
So why don't we dive into why 

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are we aren't qualified to kind 
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discussion? 
Ian, we are not. 

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We are not qualified. 
I did not go to school for 

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theology. 
Wish I could have would have 

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maybe we'll but yeah, we're not 
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These are just our personal 
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know. 
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that. 
We just approach that from a 

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very like yeah but no. 
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Seekers on her traditional path 
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was really our own at this 
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I wouldn't say that either of us
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or form, and this is just kind 
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So, what we plan to cover today 
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when some of our personal point 
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applications and then we'll 
probably save for another 

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episode more of our things 
around history, and debating 

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problematic aspects and kind of 
sharing some more in-depth point

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of our practices. 
Yeah, about we were full 

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disclosure. 
We tried to make this one 

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episode and then we realized how
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So we are going segment, this 
into two topics and two 

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episodes, but we are not going 
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episode. 
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into history. 
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is deep and wide enough to have 
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and we're kind of skimming the 
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the conversation but we will be 
covering some deeper takes and 

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some deeper historical points in
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But this episode is going to be 
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info and the what and the how, 
and we'll kind of discover the 

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why and the what if in episode 
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All right. 
Well Get into it. 

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Then we're going to go into all 
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of gods and deities and 
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matron, not not Matrix. 
This is like a point of 

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contention. 
You're like, yes, not that, 

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don't don't say that. 
So let's start with just some 

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fun fact. 
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different gods goddesses and 
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have been worshipped kind of 
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So I think it's really important
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to base terms so that we're all 
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vocabulary. 
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has control or power of its own 
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really important Point here 
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every American that I know did 
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The idea of God singular as God 
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And when we're talking about 
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of these Pantheon's, in a poly, 
a stick point of view, we're not

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necessarily saying that the God 
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So we're not justifying how the 
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entities completely agnostic of 
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the term deity and gods 
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we do want to make sure that you
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is the difference between those 
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So a deity would really be any 
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fall under that umbrella. 
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umbrella, the word itself means 
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say, nature itself is divine, 
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So duty is not necessarily just 
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Really any of these Supernatural
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cultures all over the world all 
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just one aspect of that. 
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about really the gods of the 
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We're talking about a collection
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Pantheon's as I was kind of 
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a term that we use to reference 
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Yes, but in this instance, we're
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of gods and their lore. 
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And there are tons of different 
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different cultures and lore 
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and so on and so on and so on 
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this to the end of time so we 
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individual Pantheon's because 
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so many different Pantheon's out
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systems of belief and system. 
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have to be tied to just one and 
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necessarily describing just 
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those lore and from the culture 
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this episode we're going to be 
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would like to create some 
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word Patron. 
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goddess, or anything in between,
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leverage the word matron as like
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Patron is a fine enough term to 
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and anything in between and I 
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how do you connect with the God?
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initiate that relationship? 
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different ways to approach the 
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I like to often start with the 
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Danny that often, when we're 
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could create an analogy that we 
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What are they into? 
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They have fiery deity or the 
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Is there a certain smell? 
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temperature, right? 
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places, like, you know, what is 
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if they had a birth chart, what 
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What would be the rising sign? 
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really embodies their energy and
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I really love the idea of like 
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So that's one way to get to know
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to understand is there a lesson 
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their lore and their myths? 
Is there like a philosophy or 

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point of view that they 
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magical aspects of the world and
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of being able to take control 
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But rather, tap into being able 
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potentially manipulate people. 
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taking responsibility for your 
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responsibility for your reality 
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What are some ways that you 
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first Research, redis. 
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of background, always start with
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theme or thread or something 
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I think there are so many gods 
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important to you in your mundane
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then In selecting that DD to 
petition or looking into your 

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own history. 
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where am I from, where is my 
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to the goddesses, the gods that 
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I know not everybody has that 
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their family history. 
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available to you, then letting 
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This method is not always 
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If however, and this is more for
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looking for Dede worship. 
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important to me and I want to 
petition a god, this is the very

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less direct route. 
This is the if we're dating this

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is the come chase me method and 
it's not always effective. 

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I would say it's the least 
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an option. 
If you're like, oh I just don't 

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really want to like throw them 
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There's also the the seeing what
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how once you have research to 
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know them and you understand 
their culture and their point of

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view and all those associations 
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potentially your history and 
your ancestors, you know, how do

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we actually make that connection
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Maybe first date. 
If I continued with that analogy

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and I have Personally, in my own
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ritual for this. 
I found that quite effective. 

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So as an example, casting a 
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your name, calling them by their
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that you created for them and 
maybe telling their story a 

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little bit, then you could 
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In this ritual, I would describe
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worship them. 
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forms of worship that I'm 
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so describe how you want them to
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like divination to confirm 
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me to see like our we've, I 
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something along the Lines of, 
you know, stay, if you will lead

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a few months, that's a go to 
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you get closer close. 
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some steps that you could use 
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setting but there's a lot of 
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And now we can talk about the 
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worshiping them? 
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I was that time that were doing 
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different methods that you can 
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work with Mercury weekly, you 
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Sunday I'm going to do something
that's essentially the tenets of

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the Christian religion, right? 
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that's when we do our worship 
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something that maybe you're 
working small practices in 

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again, don't overexert yourself 
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something that you're going to 
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yourself, we love the year or 
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every sabot, just putting 
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that's Autumn or summer again 
just kind of knowing their 

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temperament and knowing kind of 
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something really special in that
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evening, salutations, you know? 
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do daily but it's at a specific 
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specific time of the day, is 
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specific time in the day, maybe,
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with noon. 
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lunch every day and you commune 
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even have things like during 
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maybe during that week time, 
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connected and in the zone with 
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three weeks or so the month 
you're just kind of doing your 

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own thing, but then when you hit
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know, that's their time. 
I love that. 

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I just had this Vision in my 
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their menstruation. 
I think that's amazing. 

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Yes, certainly Goddess that 
makes that's the best assistant.

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I don't know of any Gods. 
Yeah yeah. 

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Like which one would connect 
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throughout your life. 
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you could also use that time to 
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So there's a classic example of 
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could call on your God or God 
has to bless your Foods whenever

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you're doing meditations. 
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That's a classic time, but 
anytime you have you even like 

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hygiene rituals. 
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any time you wash your hands, 
maybe you'll connect with a 

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goddess like hygena. 
That would be a great goddess. 

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Right? 
For hand-washing, whenever 

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you're working out. 
This isn't one of my favorite 

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things is to connect with Daddy 
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you're lifting. 
Weights and sweat or you could 

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you could connect with 80 prior 
to sleep, maybe when you're 

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traveling or obviously you know 
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That could also be a time. 
So there could be behavioral 

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triggers that you connect with 
God worship. 

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What else? 
I think, also, when you're in 

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need, right? 
So why are we facilitating this 

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relationship? 
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want to create this real 
relationship with Daddy because 

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we, you know, You are drawing 
from that energy. 

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And so, when you're in need, 
when you need their guidance, we

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need their assistance. 
When you want their favor, that 

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would be a time to connect. 
And really develop ritual or 

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develop practice around. 
How will you ask for that? 

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You know, how do we asking and 
and give and get for that. 

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Yeah, yeah, there's no shame in 
that game, right? 

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I was like asking when you're in
need for something from a god or

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goddess that you work with, 
ideally, you already have a 

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relationship built. 
So Not transactional in nature. 

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However, there isn't really any 
right or wrong. 

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There was not a kind of 
moralistic viewpoint that. 

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Like, oh if you ask for 
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then that's trivial. 
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transactionally. 
I think that it's totally cool. 

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Like when you're in need. 
Yeah, that's when you that's 

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when you ask for things. 
Cool. 

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So we kind of talked about the 
when part we can also talk about

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the how right? 
Like how would we actually do 

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these worships? 
Worships. 

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I don't know where I put her 
lies that when would you do the 

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worship of the Gods? 
Yeah. 

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And so there is this a lovely 
acronym that Oak put together 

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for us because that is Oka. 
Nutshell for pro. 

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So the first one is praised so 
that would really be. 

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I think we've talked about like 
communing with the Gods, Not in 

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a way that is necessarily 
sacrificial. 

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But is more of like enjoying 
this space and time together 

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doing something that you enjoy. 
That could be Singing painting 

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writing journaling, telling 
stories, you know, if you're a 

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great orator, you know, telling 
this the story, telling their 

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story decorating building, an 
altar space building, you know, 

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something to them for them, 
dancing crafting, hey partying, 

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you know, there are quite a few 
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so enjoying that time and space 
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them. 
And continue with an acronym of 

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pro cleaning. 
Your altar space, cleaning your 

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your worship space, anything 
that requires effort, right? 

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So cleaning lifting weights 
cooking having this sex. 

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Could I could I say that all of 
those things could be ways of 

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worshipping dating. 
Cool. 

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Okay. 
Well, now that we've had a 

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pretty comprehensive list of, 
you know, how do we connect with

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the gods? 
How do we call in the gods as an

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example? 
Ritual, how do we worship the 

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gods? 
Whether it's, you know, 

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triggered based on time or how 
do we do that with, you know, 

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praise ritual or offering? 
We could also I guess share a 

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little bit about our own 
personal practices if you wanted

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to do that. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, so go through yours. 
Sure. 

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Yeah, so for me, so the, the 
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directly is all one or elune if 
you're Welsh and into that. 

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But for me I don't have like a 
specific altar space for her. 

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My she is just part of my 
regular altar space. 

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So I have items on my altar, 
that are specifically signifiers

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of her, because she is really a 
part of all the things that I 

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decide to do in that space. 
And but mostly the way that I 

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connect to hers through 
mid-level meditations. 

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So I have mentally developed a 
space where we meet and so that 

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space is really meant to invite 
her. 

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There are things in that space 
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her. 
So, being a sun goddess, I have 

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aspects of the Sun in there. 
Being someone associated with 

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white clovers, I will ring of 
white clovers kind of in that 

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sin circling space. 
The space where we meet. 

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And then it really is as a 
meditative space. 

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Now, that's not to say you 
couldn't create that physical 

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space. 
I could totally go in my 

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backyard and plan a circle of 
white clovers and create that 

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space but it really is one of 
those things where we connect in

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a mental way, we create 
connecting the meditative way 

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and so that's where I meet her 
but that sounds so inviting your

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little astral Temple for her 
laptop. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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It's it was the way I was First 
introduced to her. 

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And so it seems you know when 
when a deity extends a 

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preference, I think you should 
follow that through. 

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And so the way I have connected 
with her is in meditative States

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and so that's where we meet. 
So I'm creating that inviting 

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space, not in a physical form 
necessarily but in a mental form

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and then correspondence work for
petitioning is one of the other 

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ways, you know, so really diving
into, like, what is deity your 

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DD known for what Are they 
recorded as enjoying? 

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And then what has your 
experience with them alerted you

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to write? 
So my experience is that, she 

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likes to be reached in this 
meditative state in this place, 

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in the space where I kind of 
wipe, the Slate clean of all 

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over other thoughts and what's 
going on and really come to this

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space. 
With something I want to talk 

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about something, I want to 
review something, I want to kind

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of mentally run the gamut of and
then she comes into that space 

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and really helps me. 
In those times, where I'm having

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a hard time kind of choosing a 
course of action because that is

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one of the things that I have 
known her for and that is kind 

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of known for in her lures that 
she's pretty straight to the 

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point and direct. 
And, nope, this is what we're 

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doing in. 
This is the plan of action, so 

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that is how I experienced her. 
So that is the correspondence 

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that we have. 
But then also, things like I do 

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have white clover, planted for 
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very wise. 
I do have a little owl Piggy. 

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Bank that I use non-traditional 
forms monetary forms. 

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So on days when I need to make a
decision or handle, a tough for 

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sensitive situation, I will feed
my little piggy bank, with one 

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of those non-traditional forms 
of currency and then that's 

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really like, hey, you know, I 
need some guidance today, I'm 

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going to need some help, I'm 
going to need you to really help

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direct my thoughts in a way that
helps me take decisive action. 

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That's awesome. 
And then being so specific and 

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sharing exactly how you're doing
those things. 

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I think a lot of people talk 
about god or goddess worship and

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and maybe feel the need to keep 
their practice to themselves. 

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But, you know, I think we talked
about before we started that 

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it's not necessary to be so 
secretive. 

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When it, you're talking about 
god or goddess worship because 

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it is not as if you're this is a
spell that someone off that 

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you're going to somehow Minimize
the impact of, right? 

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It's not about like, by sharing 
this, we're not lessening your 

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connection with your goddess, 
right? 

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We are actually, maybe 
strengthening because we're 

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putting more energy, more 
thought behind it, as I think, 

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thank you for being so specific.
I love that. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Like breathing into the name, 

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you know, and Owen is one of 
those that doesn't have a ton of

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lore, at least, not specifically
about her. 

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She actually shows up very 
little in her own myth and so, 

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You know, by talking about your 
deity, not necessarily 

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converting you right to my way 
of thinking, but we're speaking 

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energy into that deity, right? 
And that's probably something 

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we'll talk about in the next 
episode is like where did the 

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gods come from? 
We know, what is our belief on 

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how that works? 
And I just kind of believe that 

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the more that we talk about 
them, the more that we share 

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experience, that is also a form 
of veneration and that's how we 

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kind of bring more life into 
them. 

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Breathe more energy into them. 
And then also, I have here is 

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for me, working with deity. 
Less is more. 

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I'm very busy. 
I have a lot going on at work. 

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I have a lot going on in my 
personal life. 

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I have just a lot of different 
Avenues of things that I'm 

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taking up. 
And so for me, it's about what 

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can I reasonably upkeep and 
consistency is key. 

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Right? 
If we're talking about building 

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a relationship, it shouldn't be 
one of those things that okay 

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well I've contacted and I've 
petitioned a deity and now I 

451
00:26:45,208 --> 00:26:49,500
don't speak to them for a month.
I enjoy this deity. 

452
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:54,000
I want them to work with me, but
I don't find ways to honor them 

453
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000
on a regular basis. 
So for me, it's about the 

454
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,800
consistency of the upkeep of 
that relationship and not, you 

455
00:27:00,808 --> 00:27:04,600
know, ghosting your deity. 
Okay, okay, I hear you talking 

456
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,200
to me directly. 
I hear you. 

457
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,300
I mean, okay, so I think you are
such a realistic person. 

458
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,400
You're so good at being 
Assistant and like not biting 

459
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,600
off more than you can chew. 
And I think that that that is 

460
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,000
admirable. 
I have definitely in the past 

461
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,900
been off more than I could chew 
and yes. 

462
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:33,100
And so that consistency, I do 
believe actually creates the 

463
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:37,300
most powerful connection but at 
the same time it's like, if you 

464
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,900
forget like to pick up where you
left off, it is totally okay for

465
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:46,600
you to fall off the daddy wagon,
pick back up and I'm saying 

466
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,400
that. 
Probably mostly for myself, but 

467
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,900
yeah, I think, as we probably 
mature in our practice, we 

468
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:57,300
realize that consistency is 
probably more valuable than 

469
00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:59,600
picking something that's art, 
and you can always build, right?

470
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,700
This kind of like working hours.
It's like it's more important 

471
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,700
about what you do every day than
what you do once in a while. 

472
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:10,000
So doing something small and 
using those time triggers to 

473
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:14,400
remind yourself to keep that 
continual connection is super 

474
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,200
valuable. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, your 

475
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,900
aspiration. 
You're so good at being 

476
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:22,600
consistent is that line? 
Well and like you said, it's 

477
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,500
buildable, right? 
So maybe you start small and 

478
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,300
then once that's part of your 
regular routine, once that's 

479
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,100
very normative for you, then you
can build upon it but I think 

480
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:35,000
sometimes you know, people want 
to take on especially 

481
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,300
sacrificial things and I guess 
that's my second point. 

482
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,600
Is what you actually enjoy 
doing, right? 

483
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,500
Don't commit to doing something 
for your knee. 

484
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,900
That you don't like right? 
Like, why would I take up 

485
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:47,000
playing an instrument? 
I don't enjoy because it It 

486
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000
happens to be the instrument 
they're associated with. 

487
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,000
I think there's value in 
sacrifice. 

488
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Absolutely, and especially 
things that you want to learn or

489
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,600
that you're willing to learn. 
But I don't necessarily think 

490
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,900
there is value in doing 
something that you hate. 

491
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,600
And I would even argue that the 
negative energy that you put 

492
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,800
into that thing. 
Actually, doesn't contribute to 

493
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,200
your relationship and doesn't 
contribute to that energy in a 

494
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,500
meaningful or buildable way. 
I would actually Is it probably 

495
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:20,400
detract from that relationship 
that you hate this energy? 

496
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,300
You're putting into a thing and 
so, you know? 

497
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:26,200
Yeah, I mean I think it also 
depends on like the frequency. 

498
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,200
If you're doing it one time, you
hate it, but you're doing it as 

499
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,800
a sacrifice. 
Then that's one thing, but if 

500
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,800
you're doing it consistently, 
something you hate that that's 

501
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,300
not probably even what the 
deities want you to do. 

502
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:44,000
So there's probably a version of
this where you could, you know, 

503
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:51,100
there's some painful thing. 
Like maybe it's you don't love 

504
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,000
cooking, but you're going to 
force yourself to cook one time 

505
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600
for this daddy. 
Like that's great, but if you're

506
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,700
going to ask yourself to cook 
every night and you hate doing 

507
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:01,700
that, and like, that's not 
productive because you probably 

508
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,300
are going to not be consistent 
at it, so it probably feeds back

509
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:06,800
into the consistency thing. 
Yeah, yeah. 

510
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,200
And then you know and if you're 
going to start that cooking 

511
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,100
thing again, start small, maybe 
it's once a week and then, as 

512
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:15,200
that skill, gets better, you 
will probably enjoy it more when

513
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,000
you're like kind of good at it. 
So, you know, don't commit to 

514
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,800
something that you absolutely 
hate, be willing to try things 

515
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,300
and then say, I don't think 
that's for me and start with 

516
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,200
something that's buildable. 
Don't start, you know, with, I'm

517
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,300
going to do something crazy in 
my backyard every weekend and 

518
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:36,000
then realize that that's just 
not something that consistently 

519
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,800
you can hold on to. 
And then I think also thinking 

520
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,800
about what talents do you 
already have to give, right? 

521
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,900
And that's where we get back 
into that praise and maybe 

522
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,500
something that you You enjoy 
doing that, you can use to 

523
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:52,200
venerate your God. 
So what towns do you already 

524
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,600
possess that align with those 
correspondences that align with 

525
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,400
what you know about your Gods, 
the relationship that you've 

526
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,300
built with them that you can 
already tap into maybe while 

527
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,500
you're developing some of these 
other talents, maybe while 

528
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,800
you're learning some of these 
other skills, what do you 

529
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,100
already have to give, you know, 
let's not shoot for the moon and

530
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:17,400
then land back here on Earth 
because we didn't even get Or to

531
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,100
what we actually wanted to get 
to. 

532
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,700
Let's really think about what do
we have to give. 

533
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,600
Just like, we are thinking about
what do the gods have to give to

534
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,000
us again? 
It's building that relationship.

535
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
It's that give-and-take. 
It's the natural kind of 

536
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,500
phenomenon of building 
relationship and being really 

537
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,300
honest with ourselves. 
About what do we offer to this 

538
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,600
relationship? 
And what skills do we maybe need

539
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,900
to grow in? 
What skills? 

540
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:47,100
Can we maybe get better at? 
So, for my daddy worship 

541
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:53,300
currently, I work with Hestia 
and so I mean it's not a talent 

542
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:56,400
necessarily, but it is something
that I can do. 

543
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,200
You know, I've done some kind of
like art projects for Hestia in 

544
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,800
order to connect with her as a 
like home decoration. 

545
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,600
She's very much connected with 
home. 

546
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,700
So me having something that 
represents her specifically 

547
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,200
actually in my kitchen. 
It actually helps to trigger me 

548
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,800
into some of my behaviors, but 
the act of reading that piece 

549
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,800
was and of itself a form of 
worship and it started off as 

550
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,500
praise and maybe it's turned 
into sacrifice because it took 

551
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,500
so long. 
But you know it was there, it 

552
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,600
was there and I finished it. 
So I'm happy with that. 

553
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Yeah, but another way that I 
worship Hestia is through food 

554
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,600
and drink. 
She was connected with the 

555
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,500
Hearth and with even kind of 
like a city or a Town's fire and

556
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:56,900
their City shared, kind of 
Hearth if you go and so food and

557
00:32:56,900 --> 00:33:01,300
drink was a major offering they 
would often offer the best and 

558
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:04,500
offer the first offering to 
Hestia before honoring any of 

559
00:33:04,508 --> 00:33:06,400
the other gods. 
So it's something that I think 

560
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,200
about quite often especially 
food and drink that I find to be

561
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,700
special. 
So I'm certainly not Necessarily

562
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,700
giving every meal. 
But the ones that I spend time 

563
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:21,000
cooking or the ones that I 
specifically like wine. 

564
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,700
For instance, would be 
absolutely something. 

565
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:27,500
That would be a great offering 
for her because it is special 

566
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,800
enough for, and then maintaining
Alters. 

567
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,600
I've actually I'm finishing a 
renovation of my kitchen. 

568
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,900
And so, there is absolutely a 
space that will be a alter that 

569
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,100
I maintain for her on one of my 
kitchen. 

570
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Counters near my Hearth. 
And so maintaining a Altar for 

571
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,100
her. 
Anything. 

572
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:52,100
I think the process of 
renovating the kitchen and 

573
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:54,900
creating a beautiful space that 
I can worship her. 

574
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:58,700
In is I think meaningful. 
It's beautiful. 

575
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,100
Yeah. 
I'm like, she loves a nice 

576
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,600
kitchen. 
She's into the don't want all. 

577
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,199
And yeah, I mean that altered to
is going to be, you know, it's 

578
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,699
going to have things on it that 
have association with her like 

579
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:16,900
citrine and Some that they lean.
She was really going for to have

580
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:24,600
tails but more and another way 
that I just recently kind of 

581
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:29,000
started to give her some offer 
is through praise is like 

582
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:34,199
creating songs around her and 
her regular. 

583
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:38,600
I won't punish Everyone by 
singing it but it creating a 

584
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,100
chance for me. 
Chanting is something that helps

585
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,900
me get into a meditative Native 
state and so doing this, while 

586
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:50,000
walking for instance, is a way 
that to the walk is the trigger 

587
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,100
and the chanting is a form of 
praise. 

588
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,600
And so it's a very easy thing 
for me to do that. 

589
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,900
I think is quite meaningful 
being in a wooded isolated 

590
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,000
Place. 
Singing a goddesses name out 

591
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,100
loud. 
I think she's really into that. 

592
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:07,000
I think. 
I think it's impressive and I 

593
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,900
think it brings her to the art. 
So that is awesome. 

594
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,200
No, I love that. 
I love that, I'm like picturing 

595
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,300
you like wandering in the woods 
being very witchy. 

596
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Yeah, humming Hestia walking my 
dog. 

597
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:27,100
Let's I am singing to Hestia, so
it wasn't that cute but it was a

598
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:32,300
special I liked it nice. 
So so we've gone through, you 

599
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:35,800
know, all of the definitions 
that we would use around daily 

600
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:42,600
worship and, you know, different
terms Talked about how we would 

601
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,800
actually approach the gods and 
get to know them how we call on 

602
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
them, how we worship them and 
kind of share their own 

603
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,200
practices. 
Yeah, so thanks Danny. 

604
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,400
Like I said again, for being so 
specific with your practice and 

605
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,400
sharing, I think the specificity
is really helpful to inspire 

606
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,500
others, certainly inspires me. 
Yeah, yeah. 

607
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:04,300
And so we will definitely pick 
up on this in the next episode 

608
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,800
more about kind of the emotional
side of this more about the 

609
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:13,700
Little bit of the do's and 
don'ts more about the kind of 

610
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:17,600
our thoughts on Didi worship, 
maybe a little bit of a deeper 

611
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,300
level less of this like surface.
How to what is level. 

612
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,100
I'm more of like the what if and
what will be? 

613
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,600
But for this episode I think we 
can close it out. 

614
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,200
What are you thinking? 
Yep, I'm feeling satisfied. 

615
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,700
All right, so as always, which 
has blessed be and Be well, and 

616
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:41,400
we'll follow up with you next 
episode.

