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What is that? What do you mean it's a It's
like a a minor mug W West Virginia.
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Days and then. Hit the new button.
Do you know what that is, Hillbilly?
Days. I know about hillbilly days.
That's where I got it. Nice.
I don't know what. I don't know what type.
I know what it's called. What?
What did I miss? John's drinking out of some
chalice from the you. Know what this is called right?
What? It's called no, A pitcher, Yeah.
This is where I I drink my Oval team.
It's my Oval team device is. Oval team still a thing?
Well, I'm keeping them in business.
John's going to bring it back if you if it's not so.
I literally might drink like a gallon a day.
It's, it's. This legitimately Ovaltine.
Yeah. I didn't even know you could buy
it. So.
In like the 60s, John? Do you know?
Do you know Mootopia like that milk?
Yeah. It's like kind of like fair life
milk. So like the macros are really
good on it. And then I just mix it with
Ovaltine and it's like 33% across the board, protein,
carbs, fat, it's 33% across the board with with the Ovaltine and
dude, I drink so much. I'm all raw goat milk.
Do you got a guy? A raw?
I got a guy. I got a guy.
Yes, Yep. So that's that's what I do,
starting with the raw cow milk and then we moved on to the goat
milk. Is it not gamey, kind of weird
flavored or grassy or? Anything like that, I don't
really notice a difference. Maybe if you drink highly
pasteurized, bland milk, maybe the biggest difference is
obviously it's whole milk, right?
So it's way thicker and just, you know, yeah, it's not
drinking white water. So.
All right. Welcome everybody, to the
February 7th edition of The Spin.
We're getting close to the open and things are starting to come
out. Jesus coming out hot this this
evening. Young Jay.
God. Owen Brander heard her back
trying to climb John's Mountain. I hadn't heard that was the
reason, but it makes sense, I said.
It's a hard road to travel. Very few have reached the top,
so I apologize, Christine. We look forward to seeing you
next year. Yeah.
Yeah, for those who are not familiar or haven't seen the
news, Christine Cole and Brander is out for the 2024 CrossFit
season. Seems sounds like she's posted
some some stories recently, the last hour or so, talking about a
little bit more in depth. It sounds like it may have
stemmed from her gymnastics days, one of one of the where
the SOAS connects to her spine. She said that there's like maybe
a stress fracture or something issue there that's kind of been
there for years and years. And then she's been dealing with
back pain ever since she started CrossFit, which is crazy.
She just thought that lifting heavy was going to hurt.
And about a year and a half in she figured that was not the not
not the case. And so Yep, she is.
She is out. She had her stem cell treatment
this morning. Three months from now she'll do
some more PRP what she did in the lead up to the games.
So hopefully all the best to Christine and hopefully she she
recovers from that. I don't know what her plans are
going forward. Sounds like she may want to try
to compete again, but we will see.
It sucks, dude. Back pain's no joke.
And the fact that she's competed this whole time with back pain?
Kudos to you. Yeah.
No, it's that's that's tough and as strong as she is to be
dealing with that, it's impressive.
Obviously the impact to the season, it does open up a spot
in North America West, but she was 17th in the worldwide
rankings. She'd probably still be there.
She'll be in the top. She would be in the top 100 if
she was competing. So North America West does lose
one of the people for the DA Haunt method.
I doubt it impacts it, but as we will talk about later tonight,
with Oceana gaining potentially a spot, could North America West
be the one that ends up losing out on one of their qualifying
spots? So something to keep an eye out
for that. And Ellie would have had an even
harder time making it ironically, you know what I
mean? Because we've speculated on how
easy it would be, easy or hard it would be to defer to make it
in certain regions, right? Yeah.
I'll talk about that here in a little bit, a little bit more
about Ellie's situation. John, you have quite the
accounts here. John Young yelling.
Do we know who is on the Invictus team?
Not officially. I have some ideas.
I talked to Joshua Alshama in Miami.
He's excited about it. I know.
I think he's one of them. But I don't know who else
exactly will be on that team. Here's a interesting thought.
Will there ever be a time that Invictus doesn't send a team
like they? Their team's always OK all their
that's their thing. Yeah, that the, the bigger
question is let's see. Yes, Taylor Self is going to be
against Colton Mertens for 24.1 live on the Sevon podcast.
That is the opener now. The only one that really
matters, quite frankly, Is it that first?
One or is it third? I think that's.
The first one, they're talking trash already.
I think it's the first. One, I think it's just a big
build up. I think they're the third week.
Yeah, I think we know. Is it open information on the
other? Two think so, but I think
they're sorry. We can't add a.
Different one for week 1. It'll be Taylor, Self or
somebody. Though the world.
As the official open announcements, I've heard
rumors, but I've also now with Dave saying that it sounds like
there's going to be 4 people. It sounds like possibly in week
one that would be different than what I had heard.
So unless more yeah, between 2:00 and 7:00.
So yeah, TBD, I'm pretty sure I know at least the last week, but
we'll we'll hold off. Not to say not spreading any
false rumors out there. As John would say, you know.
You know and. You know what's bad?
What's bad is like, if he knows, then I feel like I have to know.
I I know it too. I don't know.
So like, he's holding out on me too.
I do that sometimes. Just like blind rankings helping
Kyra Milligan in the West would jump into the top 100 with
Coleen, Brander and a few drug policy athletes out.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely, we do know as colon
brander drops out, one O 1 comes in, there's I think at least
one, maybe 2 athletes in the top 100 with drug policy violations
that was unannounced, no. So you have OHANA.
Oh yeah. Is out.
Sorry, I forget during the the Duhont method, it's worldwide
calculated. Yeah, yeah.
So she she's she would be out and so you know you have and
then anybody that doesn't compete in the individual
quarter finals is also out whether they go team or just
don't compete. So you know that that list of
101 to 110 can be pretty important as backfilling as who
those are. I've I've.
I know the list I just don't have it memorized.
I'm sure helping Oh yeah wrangle is number 100.
So she's also going to be out. All right, see, there it is.
It's open knowledge, Hopper, Pepper and Mertens.
Thanks, Shelly. Thanks, mom.
How does your mom know and you not know?
She follows it much more close. We should if John ever can't
show up, we're just going to invite Shelly and late breaking
news this afternoon. Definitely want to talk a little
bit about this 2024 Masters. CrossFit Games is now officially
we have a date and a location, so it is in Birmingham, AL.
So those rumors from a year and a half ago are true.
The games are going to Birmingham.
As for the weekend, it is on Labor Day weekend.
Birmingham on Labor Day is going to be.
Hot Is there anything else going on in Michigan in Labor Day
weekend? The teens.
The teens going. On the exact same time, so pick
who you want to support. You want to support the the bold
or the beautiful bolder to be what's the other one?
The younger, the young and the restless.
The young and the restless Probably was a better was a
better. It might be a better one for all
you soap opera fans. Yeah, so the teens are going to
be up in Kalamazoo, MI that week and then the masters athletes
are heading down to Burmington, Birmingham, AL.
I assume it's in the health Plex.
For that many athletes, it probably makes sense.
Also, at the end of August, Birmingham is hot, so you'd want
to be inside. Thoughts on?
I'm talking about the old people, man.
Kids are cold. I think masters are beautiful.
There's something more beautiful than an old person killing other
people. Like it's just being fitter than
you could even realize. It's up for the viewer to decide
who is bold and who is beautiful.
So initial thoughts with. Go ahead.
That one alone. Yeah, we're going to move.
On with that one, Tyler thoughts on combining the two
competitions into one weekend? It's like it's like in the
office when they had two managers, what ship doesn't sail
with two captains? It's like I I'm wondering that
the thought that I had was the people who are organizing this
is is the legends and then what's the organization for the
teens? The Pit team.
The Pit team, I'm wondering if they just had dates in which
they could reserve and they both happen to pick Labor Day because
nobody's going to reserve a space on Labor Day and it just
happened. They said you have to fit it in
this window and that was the only one.
Yeah, I I have heard the adaptive CrossFit Games price of
the venue was definitely a big factor in it.
So that's that's pretty much I think, why they're where they
are and when they are. And yeah, I I can't imagine
there's too many large venues that have something reserved for
Labor Day weekend. I I'm not a big fan of it
though. Like, yeah, but if they didn't
have a choice, like, it's kind of like it's a second situation,
but like, this is what it is. Would it have been better to
combine them? Combine them?
You have each one run it, but if you went on the mermaid,
Birmingham is huge. I don't know how much of it
they're going to rent out. But.
To have I mean, it's all the teenagers aren't that much more.
Also, you're splitting, you're splitting rental fees at that
point, so it it'd be more profitable for each each
organization. Right.
So you have both people come there.
I mean, talking with Travis from vindicate, if you're a vendor,
which one do you go to? Do both save more money?
Be better, Travis. Yeah, I mean, yeah, if you just
be better. Send your daughters.
Tired. Yeah, that That one person.
You got that stuff for you, They go up there and then you'll go
down to the Birmingham. Yeah, I mean, the teens, it's
significantly less athletes, masters.
Have are way more money I think are like willing to buy.
Right. Buy things, Yeah, and the teen
them teens are. I think, I think the teenagers
are setting themselves up for a tough one.
And then? You're murdered in Alabama.
Ain't nobody watching you in Alabama that weekend.
No, no, not at all. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
people that have plans for Labor Day weekend.
Then you throw in college football.
You throw in. Now there's two live streams of
CrossFit overlapping each other. I think you're setting yourself
up for your relevance. Yeah, I.
I I mean the football thing alone, the football thing alone.
It doesn't matter where you are. Michigan too, man.
No, no, it doesn't matter. It's not doesn't matter.
That's why they're there, people.
It's football. Like you're like you're not
going to like like like like, OK, so somebody talked about a
live stream. It wouldn't matter if they had a
CrossFit Games type media there. Nobody's going to watch that
over football except friends and family, you know what I mean?
You have to find a like Crossfit's lucky that they do
their stuff when they do it because as far as the games go,
because nobody would watch that if it was during football
season. Well, you saw it, you saw it in
20 technically 2019 when they moved the 2020 CrossFit open up
to, was it September or October? October.
Yeah, the fall comes, you have fall sports, you have school.
All that stuff like February seems different, right, than the
fall with activities and things going on and we saw a huge drop
off. Obviously there's a lot of other
factors going on, but doing those things in the fall,
overlapping with football and stuff like that does create an
issue in my opinion. Indicate who's that is, who's
watching anyway? The Journal Public isn't
choosing CrossFit or football. Yeah, but you know, you could be
scanning channels and it could be on CBS or ESPN randomly.
And then you just linger on it for a moment and be like look at
these guys flopping like fish. Like you know it's and then and
then they do a lift after and it's kind of cool, like you have
no shot at that in football season.
Right. And then you have people that
are huge. They're big CrossFit fans, but
good die hard band fans or any other college football team.
Don't even play. You're going to be watching
college football. You're not going to tune in now?
Oh, if it was the elite individuals, I would watch the.
That's what I'm saying, like we care about the sport and I'm I'm
going to be hard pressed. I wouldn't.
I wouldn't watch the Masters or the teams, no.
And I probably wouldn't watch teams.
I would only watch the last heat of the elite individuals or the
last two. That's what I would watch if it
was during like a Vikings game or or Mizzou.
Yeah. And I mean, it's just, that's
just what it is. I'm sorry.
Yeah. And it's like we're not, we're
not trying to have a harsh take. It just is.
It's the lay of the land now. Sorry.
Well, yeah. And then you also have helping
Pitt Teen owns that property that's they're only going to be,
you know, they're they're only going to be in Three Rivers
where Pitt has their 65 acre complex on Friday every other
day. So they're having the teenagers
who don't qualify for the games and the collegiate group.
They're competing Tuesday through Thursday and then
beginning Thursday through Sunday is the official teenage
CrossFit Games. Thursday, Saturday and Sunday
will be in this ice skating rink in Kalamazoo.
Friday will be at the Pitt Teen campus or whatever like that.
So they are incurring a a some type of fee for for that venue,
you know. But you know we've already
brought up Travis trying to send you know somebody to both
locations. We also don't know how many
people are actually going to attend in person.
That makes it tough to to sign up for all of that.
You have sponsors, camera people can't explain.
Now who does the live stream you're going to find.
I don't you know, could you have bundled up all four live streams
and gotten some type of discount?
Can they could they handle two separate places?
You have to go find a different live stream operator and then
you also have coaches training camps that have athletes in
both. How do you split them up?
Who do you go to? Do you go to the masters side?
Do you go to the teen side to help those athletes?
So it does create a lot of complications when it comes to
figuring out which way you go. Sorry.
Yeah, I think the teens get screwed the most out of all of
this, though, because. Watch the teens more than the
Masters. I don't.
I think people would watch the Masters more than the teens.
Nobody cares about the teens, no offense.
Teens y'all are great, but nobody cares about them unless
you have a Hayley Adams or a Dalai Pepper that's killing
everybody. Or like, you know, when Mal
O'Brien and Emma Carrie were there?
Like like that's the only time anybody watches the teens ever.
Even Ty Jenkins didn't pull that much.
Because people know Lucy Mcgonagall.
You can say Ty Jenkins, Lucy Mcgonagall, Those are the people
who are winning the team division.
But they're not. Those two are not.
Oh yeah, they're what? I'm saying, is this this year
though, I think Lucy Mcgonagall will have some of that pull
because I think she will just obliterate everybody on her way
to another victory. And so we've seen her at Fitfest
hold her own. I think she'll be one that
everybody kind of wants to see, and we can see it if she goes to
semifinals, does well, doesn't qualify, ends up going to the
team, CrossFit Games. And there is some interest about
like, yeah, she's going to go take first place in every event.
We'll TuneIn and see that final heat occasionally.
She can do the team games and still do semifinals.
Yeah. I think if she doesn't qualify
for the games through semifinals, she won't pull
anybody. Because Haley, you're down.
Her mouth would have my point. Do you see the point I'm making
like? I'm saying but if, but I I hear
you but I'm saying like if she comes in and she finishes 15th
as a 17 year old, I still don't. I think she's still.
I think she would draw some more people to to watch because she
would be, she's the only one on the teen side where I think
would have an immediate impact in potentially in 25 if she
continues. Her, I I agree with Spanish.
She pulls top 15 or or you know, really even top 20.
I'm going to I'll probably TuneIn to watch her.
Right over all of the Masters people over 35 to 39 year old
bonus spots saying that he's going to win.
You know, like you have maybe Scott Panchak or you have names
that you know you're not going to watch her over those guys.
Not over them, but I'm saying. It's the same time.
My concern I don't know if the Masters will draw the likes of
Scott Panchak or a Sam Dancer or any of those guys that we really
want to see because they're not going to be in the same.
Well, they're. Not going to be at the games,
right? Like a lot of it was.
You go compete for a few days, then you can go do your sponsor
obligations. You can be at the elite
competition versus going to Birmingham, AL as the main show.
Well, that's what I was thinking is a lot of what pays for this
is sponsorship obligations and usually they have a presence.
I don't know who's sponsor Scott, but like let's say it's
podium now podium sort of that they don't have to split that,
but they're probably going to split.
They're going to say one or the other.
And so which one do you want to do, the teens or the masters?
And if they choose the teens, then they're going to say, well,
it's OK, Scott, like you don't like we're probably not going to
pay you to go where we would have before stuff like that.
Yeah, I mean and yeah, like, I think they're still going to be
the Die Hards. I know Jason Grubb will still go
like you'll still get a lot of the top Masters athletes.
But I don't think you will see somebody who just turns 35,
who's multi year CrossFit Games veteran who's like, yeah, I'm
going to go really compete and go to Birmingham, AL.
What? How many weeks is it after the
original CrossFit Games 3? 3.
Because I know what I'm what I'm what I'm saying is, do you guys
think that's too close to the games?
Is if you wanted to do the games and then also do the masters, do
you think that's too close or do you think it's fine?
It's pretty close. Like, are you talking as an
athlete or somebody who would? Get an athlete because, well, I,
I, I keep coming to Bronislaw. But I'm sure other athletes
would want to do this because we talked about this before that it
made this possible for them to make the games compete at the
games but then also try to win the Masters in their age
division, right? What really probably just the
3539 be incredible if somebody could do that in 40 to 44.
I'm not sure anybody will want to do both.
No, because Ewing. Like I I just don't think it's
going to have the same allure as it used to.
And those comments may have come before you knew what you were
signing up for to go to Birmingham.
Yeah. And usually down on Birmingham.
I just don't think. I'm down on Kalamazoo.
It's more about you're out on your own island.
I don't think on a Labor Day weekend split coverage with the
teens. I just don't think like look at
the coverage or or the the viewership of any other.
Like Master Fitness Collective didn't do a live stream.
Legends did not do a live stream.
I. Don't think they're doing it for
the coverage, man. They're just doing it to
compete. I don't know if those those
athletes want to do it. I think some team athletes I
agree with helping. Some team team athletes that you
know have have that may want to. I just don't think the big names
who have graduated to masters will want to go to this separate
competition I. Agree.
Right. Scott Panchak does not go to
Legends Championship. He does not go to Masters
Fitness Collective. He went to the games.
That's it. He can then hang around the
games he could go to. I think he may have been at a
booth there. I'm sure he had a couple sponsor
things, hang out with all the group that he's seen and
competed against. I got you.
But everything you're saying now is always going to be at that,
no matter what. Well, I need.
They were always going to be their own competition set from
it's the Masters games like we knew that already.
Yeah, but it was at the games. I was OK, I see what you're
saying. So you thought it would be at
Dickies then? No, I I think once you finally
realize what it all means, people will change their mind.
I I did have at least one well known guy who was considering
going masters and when the announcement came that they were
going to split off and go somewhere separate, he's like,
I'm out. I don't have.
Any why? Because what I'm saying like he
doesn't. If you're going to Dickies and
competing the few days before the lead up, it's a little bit
more exciting. You can then spend the next
couple days watching the games. You're there if you want to go
to the games and then three weeks later you have to go to
compete. That's a lot going on.
Like, why? What do I get out of it?
The The pride of competing? Well, he's already done well in
the past. I need a conspiracy theory.
Are you talking about Josh? Fridges.
No. Did y'all watch that tonight?
I did. He got feisty.
Dude, I love that. I love that so much, I.
Wish you had I wish. I wish you had won.
So we had another week. I do.
I wish feeders so badly, just
like made Josh Bridges to the final, just to see that I'll
take my defeat for that showdown.
You can You can let Josh take your place.
Well, he didn't win. I mean, I I'm not going to, you
know, you can. You can.
Sub you can sub. I got two of the most
politically correct guys I have to go against now.
You should do well then. It was not Wilmore Ed.
It was not Froning. But you're closer.
Y'all stop. Guessing so, so.
You know, and then of course they add in masters teams.
Did you see that? Yeah, it's hard enough to find.
Cool For the guys that are doing it and men and women that are
going to compete, Team is always fun to do watching it.
No, I I don't even think friends and family are going to watch
Masters teams. Yeah, I I I think if you want to
talk about like niche of niches is is that, I mean team teams
too. But like team like for the teams
it'd be like they'll just you know get to be with their
friends, right. But like, masters, man.
That's one of the rules that I loved about Old Grid was you had
to have a certain amount of masters on your team.
This is like the OG Grid it. Was the.
It was the beginning of DEI for for the.
Are you required? Go ahead, Tyler.
No, it's just like, it was amazing because you got to see
some real crazy athletes that were just too old to compete in
normal sports. But like could could could do
that. Like Travis, Mash was like 1000
LB Squatter and he was competing in it.
Yeah, I don't even Did he even hit the floor at all?
No. Yeah, he was just on the roster,
right? Yeah, he was on the roster.
Yeah. So there's that.
And then there is a trial 70 plus division, that's not
official. It's somehow you can register
like I guess you sign up, you put some hashtag in there and so
if you want to do #Yolo and the hashtag 70 or something you can
then make it and compete in the 70 plus trial run to see how
many people do it and can they program for 70 year olds.
John was about, John went to blow his nose.
He, I think his face is about to fall off.
He's trying to hold back. Helping.
I don't think either of these comps are created for
viewership. They are for the athletes who
want to compete. Yeah.
And you're taking the incentive out of competing?
Yeah, I think that's what it's going to turn into, right?
Like, yeah, it's the people like Jason Grubb who love competing.
It's the pride of continuing to win and show that he is the
fittest in his age group and it'll likely turn into a less of
a spectacle. I think this year will be a
bigger spectacle and I think it'll slowly get to maybe
there's a live stream, I don't know.
And look, you're still going to be able to say that you were the
fittest in your age group. I think it's great.
It's just you have to have viewership if you're going to do
a live stream across the country to draw, to draw sponsors, to
cover all those costs. I mean, there's plenty of
Masters and teen sports, but a lot of times they don't get.
They don't get coverage. Yeah.
And we're already in a sport that gets limited coverage as it
is. So you know what, you know, my
brain starts doing on this though, is what like, say that
teens and masters just dies after like 2 years of this.
Like people are just like, I just don't want to go do it.
It's not the same. Where do they go?
Well, I think that's why there's there's still be that, right,
that you could still do the team at the pit team ranch because
they have it, but it's working out outside in dirt like it's
not. Yeah, it's not the same
polished. Yeah, it's not the same.
You're you're not in a venue, you don't have a huge stadium
type atmosphere. Masters.
I think they'll still want to do some type of competition, but
will it turn into no live stream?
Yeah, I don't. Know you have to ask him when he
comes back. He's saying I'm out.
Yeah. All right.
We're going to. We'll do some he's.
Back. There he is, just in time.
For Granny and all. I'm not great viewer.
Viewer comments. Viewer comments.
All right, so I picked some that have some you have to react to
them. Some questions, thoughts at Navy
CC. Great show, gentlemen.
Got my games ticket. Are you surprised how quickly
they sold out? And this is his first games.
What should I expect? I have no idea.
What? Should expect.
I need to have more context. What?
What more context do you need? What like have you been to
anything before? Like what it compares to for
that? I mean, it's going to be the
biggest CrossFit event you've ever been to, unless you've.
Been I? Don't know.
And honestly, we don't know what to expect either because we
haven't been there. It's a new Coliseum.
It's a new parking. Like it's parking's high on your
list. Well, yeah, man, there's a
freaking, like, RV park at the other games like, like, that's a
big part of it. Like Mayhem sets up right next
to like, everybody, right? That's a big part of it.
There's a bunch of different things.
No. You know, if you if you stop it,
OK. If you've ever been to a
CrossFit bench, it's like those. It's just way, way bigger.
OK, We don't know what to expect either.
But if you see us there, I'll be there.
Say hi. Don't say act like Tyler's not
there. I always tell you what, tell
give Tyler your phone to take a picture with me.
That'll bring me so much joy. OK, Yeah, that's that's all I
got. What?
What about you? Go anywhere with John.
He's worried about parking first.
He parked. Terribly worried about it.
My my initial thought is after parking is that's.
Not a terrible thing to say. What?
Hey, I real quick, real quick.
I apologize. I apologize.
I'm getting over a sickness, so if I sound sniffly, I'm sorry.
I'm trying not to. My my question is how does
everything flow together right? So you have 1213 thousand people
in a venue, How do the how do the events below from one one
another like how tightly you know how compact are they?
Is there a lot of downtime? There's a it looks like it's
going to be a sweet 10,000 square foot vendor area,
technically off site, like a quarter mile walk away.
Near parking, conveniently it's. Probably closer to parking that
is free, but again, if you have only a 30 minute break between
individual and teams, are you going to leave and not watch the
team competition or not the first teeter 2 and then walk to
Vendor Village for an hour? Do you stay and only go to
Vendor Village before or after you know the competition?
A lot of that. I don't know what that's going
to be like. And that's what was convenient
about Madison is like the rogue tent is like right away from
North Park. And then same thing with the
Noble tent. And then you know, the big
vendor village was right there too.
It was a little bit more cumbersome to get into, but I
mean it's right there. And so you could just go in
there for five to 10 minutes? Or yeah, you walk between from
North Park to the Coliseum. You can stroll through there.
Yeah. As you came in you can walk
through it. So that that that's my biggest.
I just don't know. I don't know what it's going to
be like I do. I do like the idea of a free
vendor village for those who do want to go and check that out.
If you're local, I don't think you're going to get anybody that
flies in just to see a seminar or do something there.
But if you're around the Fort Worth area, it'd be fun to go,
yeah? At least for a day.
Yeah, at Kevin PV 5 BT. Here's a serious question.
Does CrossFit just not want Roman to compete in Asia
semifinal? Because it's probably a lock for
him. If he competes in the East,
North America East, then the Asia spot is open to that region
adds a more diverse feel. I hope that's not true.
It's not a bad thought though. Like if you really like.
I don't think that's the case. But if it is the case, it is
sleazy. See it?
You know what I mean? Like this.
That's kind of like a Hillary conspiracy theory video that I
think you're reaching for. But you know, it's not a
terrible thought. I don't think it's the case.
We don't know that to be the case.
I don't think that's what's pushing it, but there, I mean
another way of phrasing that is having Roman in the East sells a
few more. Tickets Semi final tickets to
the East. Yeah, And so it's not that
intent, but it has the same, it has the same consequences.
Yeah. 100%. Hopefully that's not why they
made any decision is to sell more tickets or to do something
like that. Obviously we we still have a
bunch of questions about it. I can kind of move on to Hill,
Ellie Turner's situation, I got some more information since we
talked last time. So obviously CrossFit put on a
release. I think some people shared that.
I think Morning Chalk Up did, Clydesdale did and I I also
asked like what is their, what is their definition of sustained
residency. And so the way that they told me
they're looking at it is if on February 1st, 2021 you have to
be here or wherever, whatever country you're trying to compete
out of. So you have to have a lease
utility agreement, something that shows that you reside here
and then Canada and then, well, Canada will be fine, right,
Because she'd still. Stay in Canada, right?
See, that's it's. That doesn't make a whole lot of
sense because W Canada is the same as North or United States.
It's your country, right? It's.
So Ellie did not.
Ellie was technically not here February 1st, 2021.
However, she has been here longer than others like
Catherine, and obviously Roman did not, was not here February
1st, 2021 either. But what they're saying is
that's their demarcation. So you you have to show that you
live here. What you do for travel after
that is on your own. So, like, it doesn't matter that
if you actually are here in the States for three years, long as
you're paying on your name on it.
Yeah, right. As long as you're paying on a
lease, or you're on a mortgage, or you're doing something like
that, you can claim residency. But then you can go fly around
the whole world. Which is why Catherine is fine.
Which is why Catherine is fine, right?
She's lived here forever. She's, you know, living up in
Idaho or wherever she is. She's still paying rent.
Even though she's in Iceland for six months.
It doesn't matter because she still has a name on the lease in
June. She's still.
Yeah. Now Roman, I still don't get
that one. I don't have an answer for you
on that. But that is kind of where, at
least how CrossFit is defining it to me.
So that was my my thought is my initial thought was sustained
residency menu to be in the States for a certain amount of
time of that 36 months and it's not, it's like February 1st,
2021. That's where you have to be.
Lease date? Yep.
If it's ever recently, technically they could say no to
you. Ellie needed a guy.
She needed somebody who would backdate a lease.
He has a guy. No, but it did like a lease.
Like I got, you know, like a shady guy who would backdate a
lease for you. You're saying Justin Medeiros is
not a man? Is that what you're saying?
That's not. What I'm saying, well, he.
Did you call Justin Medeiros? She made a male live Live Today
on Margo Spin. Justin's not shady enough to go
create a separate lease for him to say that you need a halfway
you lived here on January 31st, 2021.
You need to solve good to to like.
Whether you actually here doesn't matter.
You were part of this lease. I was leasing this, this room
back in my my place. And yeah, you know.
Or have Justin write a fake lease to her for that amount
right for this room. We just solved what he should
have done. So she's been sleeping with me
for years, man. Here's the proof.
And and the catch is, they don't even have to share that
information. Yeah, on the same topic at Trish
Higginson 9888, when does the full list of exemptions come
out? When CrossFit is done reviewing
all of the exemptions. So that deadline was February
1st. We'll find out whenever they
make their final ruling. You would think it's fast, but
if there's one that's complicated, it will drag out,
which I just I think Ellie's dragged out for a while too.
So. So semifinals?
I hope not. Hopefully it'll be before the
Open. Going back to last week at
Robert Cooper 7827. Tyler is crazy to think that
three rounds of 21 kettlebell swings is harder than fifty
straight barbell thrusters after selling your sill on the rubber.
Because I suck at the rower, so I don't.
See my response. My response is go sell your soul
out on the 400 meter run. Yeah, it's a fair response.
It's a fair response. You go run a 65 second 400 and
tell me how easy those 21 kettlebell swings are.
Oh, you're still recovering on the swing one.
Kettlebell swings though. Wait, I mean, I guess you're
recovering on the 50 barbell thrusters?
What's your fastest, 400, John? 59 seconds.
All right, go run 62 seconds and go do that and then go to run
another 62 second. For I can't, no, we're already.
I can't run two of them in a row.
I got 59 one time, one time and then we're we're done for a
minute. We're done.
Well, he seated you. That's why he said 62.
He seated you those 3 seconds. 3 seconds.
It's a 5% drop off. Yeah, 5% capacity.
Super repeatable? Yeah, for sure.
And I am out of my mind. It's just has nothing to do with
that. The The reason I disagree with
Mr. Robert Cooper is on Jackie the row.
You don't have to sell your soul on the row like.
Very. We disagree.
Your soul. Really.
I to have the best time, the row is important.
To have a good time it's not important, but.
The run is is the key. Is everything.
No, no, I'm I'm, I'm with you. The run is everything.
I'm not saying the row is as important as the run and for for
Helen that's not what I'm saying.
But to have the best time in Jackie you are going you have to
hurt really bad on the row and I don't I think you guys just
haven't hurt that bad on a rower before.
But if you if you row that thousand in like 315 and then do
50 barbell thrusters, I think it's, I think it's a lot harder
than you think. But but it's the same hard.
I will agree with spin, it's the same hard as running a 62 second
four. 100 OK What I'm saying is you can run, you can row 330.
And I and you probably not beat me. 15 seconds on the.
Thrust Not if, not if. Not if you're fit enough.
If you're fit enough, you can suffer through those 50 barbell
thrusters and and know you have those 15 seconds ahead.
That's why Khalipa beats rich throning and Jackie is Khalifa
fitted and rich throning back to.
That's my point. That's what I'm saying.
But he. Doesn't he's already built for?
Khalifa's not rowing in a 245 or whatever he could probably row.
No, but they're all hurting. They're all hurting in that 20.
I believe it's hurting less. Than 2013 regional?
No, it's just a head. I think they're hurting the
same. I think it's just a head.
No, I think they're both pushing, whatever, 90%.
Of then I think Rich will catch up on the thrusters 100% he.
Did He's five O 9 to five O 4? He did.
He could hold him off. Well, he even broke his pull up
and and he still he did like 27 pull ups and then he did 3 pull
ups to the ending and he beat everybody because of the rope.
I'm saying to be elite in Jackie, it is more painful than
to be elite in Helen, That's what I'm saying.
Go go back and watch Jackie in the in regionals back in the
day, the people who did other than Khalipa.
You. Got off the rower first.
Match and same thing. Not if you fit enough.
Yeah, it's the people that could do the thrusters and the pull
ups unbroken and not everybody could well.
I mean that's the, that's the ticket to the Rod just to be
able to do that stuff unbroken and then it's how hard can you
push the rower like it's not even a question you can't do
that. At the same time.
But the. Yeah, the ones who did it come
in first for sure. This to me the question is,
which one makes you fitter overall?
That's the question. Which the with actual that was
the question. That was the question that we
have right? That or the for the blind
rankings? It's it.
It comes out watchable. The crowd.
I mean, I think you could do both.
The crowd. The crowd agreed with you guys
that Helen and I'm. I'm not going to fight that.
Like, I think Helen is a wonderful, a wonderful workout.
I just think Jackie's a better one.
But Helen is still an amazing workout.
There's just not. I just think you don't get the
full fitness with Helen. It's just it's more cardio than
altogether fitness. In my opinion. 21 kettlebell
swings is not making you stronger.
That's the implement. That's the strength implement
for Helen, and it's just not as much.
But we can move on. I will.
I will take defeat in this, in this.
That's all I that's all I need. I'm not going to agree with you.
I will. I will take defeat in the
argument. If that, if that.
As long as you accept losing, that's all I need to hear.
At Francis Bailey 8881 Great interview last week with the
future CrossFit Games champion Leahy.
Bill Leahy, Mr. Leahy. So John must be built just like
Danny. I think she's referring to your
running abilities there. Yeah, yeah.
We're pretty similar. I agree.
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Henrik Inge Oskarson is back. Can.
You refresh the the public's mind and who that is, please.
Yeah, so Henrik, he is an interesting guy.
In 2016 he competed in Iceland at the was it the Iceland or
Nike Icelandic throw down? He won.
He won the competition and then was subjected to a drug test by
the Icelandic Association CrossFit or something like that,
and he declined. So.
Iceland he declined the drug test.
He. Declined the drug test.
Actually, he and the 2nd place guy both declined a drug test.
I'd Rick, you should pee in this cup.
No. Thank you.
What's what makes it crazy is BKG was actually supposed to
compete there. He declined and ended up not
going. And there was a lot of rumors at
the time, like, oh, is BKG trying to skip something?
I don't think so, but that was one of the the big rumors at the
time. So the Icelandic CrossFit
Association bans him for two years.
I don't think at the time it was actually banned from CrossFit
competitions. He just he was not allowed to do
anything in Iceland. He could not compete, he could
not walk step into an A CrossFit gym in Iceland during those two.
What? Yeah, that was who's.
Enforcing that. Yeah, it was some random
Icelandic CrossFit association. They got some odd laws, it's
like. You can't.
Have a popsicle in your back pocket.
That's true. It's a ice cream cone.
Because horses will try to. People stole horses that way.
So it's like it's still a law. You can't do it.
I'm a law enforcement 100. Percent.
So, So then in 2018, he comes back, he's getting ready for the
2019 season. He finished, was it 30 something
in the Open that year, just outside the qualifying top 20.
I think we're the ones that automatically got the
qualification. And so he finished 34th in
2019's CrossFit Open. He then went to the Reykjavik
CrossFit Championship and finished second behind BKG.
BKG already had the automatic invite because he was the
national champion of Iceland and he also was in the top 20 of the
Open Worldwide, so it then went to Mr. Oskarson.
So they asked to do a drug. Test and said no.
He was asked to do a drug test again.
Again, well, he ended up doing he he didn't provide a sample.
And it. 5 for. Ostering and Rad 40.
And so he appealed it and got a four year suspension from May of
2020 or 2019 to 2023. So because it went through May
of 23, he was not allowed to compete.
Fun fact, that was also the same competition where Ellie Cabord,
one of the Mayhem members. Oh, the horse meat situation.
Yeah, she. Landed on tainted meat.
Was unable to get that through. So she also.
That's what it was. Probably the same.
So yeah, so he is now officially back as of May 4th this year.
I've heard if if you go back to his Instagram, it'll say that he
hasn't posted anything since 2021.
I've heard that he actually deleted some things between
then, but either way it sounds like regardless, like the whole
time he's been saying I'm going to come back, I'm going to you
know, just watch. I'm ready for this dude.
He is massive. I have AI.
Have a question? I have a question before we go
further. You said May 4th, does that mean
he's allowed to participate in the open?
It's because that's before May. 4th No, May May 4th, 2023.
Oh, OK. Sorry.
Sorry, yeah. Yeah, that's why he couldn't
compete last year, because the Open had already He couldn't
compete in the Open at that point.
So anyway, he posted earlier this week this video of a 201
kilogram clean. That's 442.
Yeah. For people who don't know kilos,
and that's more than anybody else.
Yes, he is massive and. Is this it?
That's it. That's not.
That's not it. That's four O 5.
Here you go. Here's Here's the two O 1, but
he still makes it look pretty. Easy Jesus.
He could get. He could get 460, I bet.
He can also get banned for four more years.
Hey, whatever. And so he posted some stories.
There's 180 kilogram, 396 LB Push press.
Wow, that's more insane than the clean that right there.
You should have. Started 190. # Hang clean that
he posted 3 hours ago. God.
Yo, it'd be so he's he's Icelandic, right?
Man, I wish he was in North America.
Jeez. Yeah.
OK. The leg.
That leg vein. Gets EJEJ Heinz.
Y'all know EJ Hein, he's one of Taylor's, he's one of Taylor's
athletes. He has a 440 LB clean and he's
like semi finals, fringe semi finals, semi finals fit.
Oh, wasn't he like a weight lifter, though?
Yeah, yeah, he was for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, he's legit. He's not all rated up like this
guy. But if they were in the same
region, it'd be fun to see them go off.
Yeah, well, anyway. He posted, he posted that first,
that 442 LB Clean and so I reached out to him was like, are
you are you planning on competing?
He said yes. So hell yeah.
Hell yeah. He is coming back and then any
question, Andrew Hiller, if CrossFit can kick me out with
that testing, they can kick him out for that.
Clean that Bush press, bro. That Bush press was.
Killer Do you have veins on your legs like that?
Yeah, he's got, he's got pretty ripped out legs.
He's, he's been the most proud of the squats, man.
He's well, he loves the squats. Yeah, Alana Fisk, I don't think
she's Cologne anymore. I could be wrong, but her
sanction is actually up one week before the Open.
So because they moved it back this year, she actually compete
this year. Don't know if she is doing it.
You have Laughterous Theo Phanidus, the great guy from
2019. Chandler Smith's favorite
athlete. Have you ever heard that story?
No, what is it? So 2019 is when he competed,
right? Yeah.
And so the 400 meter runs and you can kind of you can kind of
see it if you piece together like when they went on the 400
meter runs, they all took off like a bat out of hell in the
first cut event. And he like elbowed Chandler
really, really hard. And then Chandler like try to
kind of elbow him back and then like he was like like seriously
like to get to get past him and and Chandler like after the
fact. I don't know where the interview
is but it's somewhere he's like that freaking little Greek guy
whatever his name is left lefty Theo thought he's the, you know
something trying to elbow me on the runs.
How'd that work out for him? What place did he come in?
Oh, 88. That's what I thought.
And like he he's just he was just so mad about this run.
It's the very first run to that happens and you know Chandler
has a great event. It's like one of his best
events, right. Chandler is also that worked out
and so it's so funny to watch. I think Chandler got second
pictures of Matt, him finished checking and left Harris still
you know get whatever position he got.
But he was some crazy freak that ever you just step on loved left
Heiress, the Endophanitis loved him and then he comes out, he's
all roided up and that's it. If I love him.
Yeah. Yeah, just a.
Funny story, yeah. Yeah, so then also Larissa Kuna.
She comes back after a 2 year sanction for what she proved to
be tainted supplements. And also Anna Frag Cow.
She was also a Top 10 athlete in 2019.
She's also able to come. Back.
I'm surprised that wasn't bigger news.
Yeah. What Anna?
Yeah, 'cause Ricky bit so big. And like Anna Frack, I was like,
oh wow, that sucks. And then it was like, oh, who is
she? She's the only other top ten
athlete to pop. Yes, I think she's the only
other one. And there was It wasn't that
big. I think it's all because it was
such a weird year and it was like, oh, of course she did.
Like we don't know who she was, Sure.
And like, name recognition wasn't big.
I get it. But I'm just saying like we she
didn't get very much negative publicity at all and Ricky got
the world right. Janelle Stites, So she actually
was able, I think she's appeared on the team last year.
Yeah, she came back last year. She was, it was like January
23rd of last year, so I think she was on a heated.
Against her in what's that Missouri competition?
The. Monster games.
The No, not that it's the other. One in Joplin.
No, this one's in Springfield. But I competed against her and
people were talking about her being there.
It was. I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
I can't remember. Yeah, sorry.
Oh, I think I I think it's good. I think I remember, but I can't
remember what the name is. I've heard of it.
Part of America. Anna Frag Cow looks like a
different person and you are 100% accurate in that.
In what way? Finn yeah.
Oh, just like a normal person. Yep.
Well, she's not all juiced up. That's what happens.
Keller lost like 20 lbs. In like 2 weeks.
Yeah, I'm trying to see. Yeah.
I mean, she does not look. Like she ain't in bite in shape,
right? No, her legs look skinny.
She looks like like, like, model skinny.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
Yeah, and here's here she is from the games, right after the
games. I think I was 21, so not even
then. Wow.
So if you're this dude, what's the guy from Iceland?
What's his name? Heinrich.
Yeah.
There there. You go Oscar.
Oscarsson, Oscar. Oscarsson, Yeah.
Heinrich. Oscarsson.
Heinrich Oscarsson. Are you just like there's two
calls you can make? Either yeah, it was Heart of
America. Either you're like crosses going
to continue to test me. I need to lay off, do the Ricky
thing and like, hey, I screwed up or you juice to the gills.
Well, he he juice to the gills. Well, I mean, if I'm an athlete
and I got a. Question Brian, do you know this
because you you know more about him than everybody else.
Did he have that type of strength back in 20/19/2018 when
he was competing with BKG? Because I think we would have
known about him, you know what I'm saying?
I think we would have known about him if he had a 440
freaking pound clean. 60 LB clean.
OK, there we go. No, he was.
He was definitely strong back in the day, but he was not.
I'll tell you what, give me a couple more years, give me a
couple more years and if I don't make semi finals I will get on
the Hitler train and and just see and just see how strong I
can get right? And I'm just going to post some
ridiculous thing and be like I'm going to compete now and just
see and see if they test me. That was.
This is in 2018. Yeah.
So he's much thinner. I mean, he looks like a game
Jack. Yeah, like ripness wise.
He looks like Ripper Ripper than most.
He's he's got the Froning tattoo on the side.
The most ripped out Yonukowski there is.
That's what he looks ripped her. So yeah, yeah, no, he was
definitely. There's a 200, two 100 kilograms
split jerk. He's been drinking that
Ovaltine. What's your what's your question
Brian Should the CrossFit test people that in the in their
band. Yeah, there's a 200 four, 140 LB
Split jerk split jerk back in 2018.
I'm going to say that 2019 I I'm pretty positive they tested
Ricky every year. But even.
A year they did not. They only tested Ricky one time
in March of 21. Which would have been the year
before. The right right before his
suspension ended 'cause his suspension ended in August of
20. One Are you sure 'cause I feel
like there was Instagram. I went back every single.
Time they tested him. I found his interview with Chase
back on the CrossFit Games YouTube page, 'cause I was
curious. I was like.
I just remember Gabe having stories with Ricky's name in.
It no, I went. I went.
Stories. Because CrossFit publishes their
out of out of competition drug tests which this past year they
tested 26 athletes and I talked to Pat Vellner, he was tested
multiple times out of competition.
So it's it's hard to know how many tests exactly they did but
26 athletes all from the games received the drug test this
year. Ricky's name was not on 2021's
out of competition drug test list.
But you go back to this interview with Chase and it does
say Chase asks him like were you tested in the during your
suspension. He goes just the one just
recently. That's it.
He had to do whereabouts. So he was on the on in the pool.
He could have been tested at any time, but he was not other than
when he right before he came back and his suspension ended
so. More than enough to do multiple
cycles and cycle off. I don't think Ricky, I think
Ricky's. Not Ricky.
I'm not saying Ricky, but I'm talking about this Oscar.
Whatever. No, no.
This Oscar guy is, is Ronnie Coleman juiced up?
But I'm but I hope. He gets away with it personally.
I don't know if this also, I think if he's that strong now
though he's probably not as fit. He might have a harder time than
he thinks like being that big. And I mean like like gymnastics
is a harder. Like endurance is way harder.
Like trend does not help your endurance.
You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that's what
he's on, but he's clearly on something and I think he might
have a harder time making it than he thinks just because his
is aerobic capacity. It's not, it's not as much as it
would, maybe not. But if you look like that and
you're as fit as you were before, if you're the same fit,
you should win first place in Europe.
You know, because you'll be second or third in the workouts
that Lazar BKG beat you and then you'll win the strength of it.
And they're going to, they're going to be, they're going to
come 9th, right? Lazar and BKG are going to come
8th and 9th and then you're going to come first and you
should be third place right behind.
You know 4th place. You know there ain't no swim.
You know you should be able to beat Yonah, right?
So. If he swims, he'd sink.
There's no way he floats. Yeah, and trust me, I know what
that feels like. That's not great.
Yeah. So I mean, the question is how
often should CrossFit test athletes who fail a drug test,
Like very few actually come back and are competitive.
Like Ricky's really the only one.
Yeah, that I can think of and and you show that they you do
you do 26 in a year 26 athletes are tested in a year all games
athletes they don't have the capacity to go.
They're not doing hundreds of these like you saw they was
doing. Can they?
Should they be testing all these people for four years when
there's a likelihood that they're going to turn into Anna
Frag Cab who doesn't come back? No, I don't.
I don't think so. I think they should only test
people that matter and and none of these people matter.
I don't know why they don't matter because they got to try
to take all the drugs in the world to breakthrough and if
that, yeah. But what happens?
Then you don't. Happens if this dude.
What if this dude comes back? Keeps the.
Same test he had. He hasn't been tested this whole
time. He's now off whatever and he
goes and makes it to the games. I'm not saying that he's on it
right now, but it's it's very suspicious.
But one 100%, Barkley 100%. What was Barkley saying?
Nothing. Nothing.
I'm not.
I'm not the best swimmer, but it's not something I have to
worry about at this moment. Yeah, but how do you, how do you
manage that if somebody is like just going to keep going and?
You can't. Three or four years and then
cycle off. I don't think you can, but it
has. I don't think it's been a
problem though. Now, like if he goes and
freaking wins Europe or third in Europe or whatever, then yeah,
it's a problem. But I don't think that has
happened yet. But he is just a a smaller
statement of for athletes who are on the up and coming but
people don't know about. So say you're 20 and and like
you're. Always going to have it.
Like I don't want to use certain names.
I don't know you're you're you're an athlete that all of a
sudden in two years you've gone from you started CrossFit and
now you're a semi finals athlete or you're 41st and you don't
make it. They're not testing you.
But you're not going to test you because you finished 41st.
You have an entire year. There's something.
Like there's none of that. Like you just shot up from 30
thousandth in the Open to 41st in quarterfinals.
Yeah, right, you don't. See those tests?
Unless somebody rats on them. They can't manage it, so they're
they really are doing the best they can.
They want you to fear doing it so you don't do it, but there's
really no incentive not to do it, besides pride.
Like they can't manage it. Or it's illegal?
It's not illegal. No to the rule book.
It's illegal. Yeah, that's what I'm saying,
but like, it's. Not pride.
It's not of that. It's it's integrity.
Yeah, but that's what. I'm saying integrity and pride
of two different things. OK, fine.
We agree about that. What I'm saying is, is if you
want to bend the rules, there's no incentive not to, no.
No, no. If you want to.
If you want to, you absolutely can without consequences until
you get good. And so the only tactic they have
is fear that they that you might get tested.
It's the best they can do. And you go.
You start. Mason Phil Tunes Testosterone
levels were all out of whack. That was the part of the reason
he got kicked. I know it was Austrian and stuff
that he said he took for his hair, but his testosterone
levels were like three times normal.
Lynn and Jerry, maybe you just got stronger.
Playing devil's advocate. Give me four years of
weightlifting and I'll probably double my clean.
When he was stronger than you before those four years.
I hate to break it to you. Yeah, it's different when you're
already at like 90th percentile of men who are lifting.
He's. Probably 95th percentile or 96th
at that point if you if you did a split jerk at 200 kilograms in
29. For instance, you give me four
years, I'm not going to clean £500.
It's, it's. Or run a 5 minute.
Move my my yeah, or or. There you go.
Yeah. It's just like it's not going to
happen like once you once. It's much harder to improve once
you're at the top of that echelon.
He'll get steeper. Anything else before we move on
to? No, we probably should get a
move on because we're we're. We're we're running blind
rankings. It's back.
Let's do it. Favorite drugs?
Let's go. Dude, I'm not opposed to that.
Like best drugs, to improving CrossFit.
Like, I I I know. Like, listen, listen, I know
spin wants to keep it political, but I listen.
I'm so down to do like fun, fun stuff you have to do, you have.
To do some research because if I did this I'd I'd have to re
consult with Hiller. Yeah, we'll we'll have those.
Don't do that. No, no, no, you do that.
You do that. No.
I think it'd be better if me and Tyler just go off the cuff.
I really do. Our half assed knowledge about
drugs. 100% man or or you know and not even like drugs.
I know we're. Talking about double-blind
ranking. But like, you know, football
players like, like it could be anything.
Like, you know, just just random for Super Bowl.
But like just random stuff. I think we should have a
CrossFit blind ranking and a random fine ranking and we'll
have two rankings. Best milks.
I'm down for that. You know what I mean?
We should have a CrossFit ranking and and then a random
rankings. OK, goat.
Milk at the. Top Because I feel like I see.
So let's say we did milks and you know, spend his goat milk.
So that's what he puts up there, right.
And we don't, you know, we don't know what that is, right.
So and we see goat milk. Tyler, both of us are going 5.
No, I'm going one. I know the power of real milk.
Yeah. I was raising on a farm, bro.
Well then we'll compromise at 3:00 because Oval team is the
way. All right, this week's blind
ranking is the best possible 2024 open matchups, So these are
all hypothetical. It is who you want to see in a
oh, this could be so hard. I put this together.
Disclaimer, I put this together I think last Thursday I came up
with the idea and I was hoping that nothing was going to come
out before then. Good job.
And now I've forgotten what I have.
So this is going to be just as much of a surprise to me as it
is to you. But so yeah.
All right. Here we go.
First one, Roman versus Adler I. Kind of want to say one I.
Caught the game Down, down, down.
I think this is like one of the best months.
Yeah. I, I I'm down for one.
There's not, and we're. Getting strict.
Well honestly, like just the build up, even if the workout,
because I think certain workouts can come out where like Adler
will just crush Roman, especially in the open, right.
But they're not going to do that right.
But but the build up to that would be phenomenal.
So I I'm with you. I'm with you all all.
Right. Number one, that was that was
easy. Here we go.
Maderos versus Jukich. Lazar. 43 Let's think.
Let's think about potentials. Laura versus Tia is going to be
up there. I'm not not.
I'm saying if that matchup was up there, that'd be a high one.
Razzer's got that mouth on him, though.
Man, he'd he'd be popping off. Dude.
We'll do four, We'll do 4, but. 4I honestly think it would be a
fantastic battle though fitness wise in the open, they're both
open athletes you watch like. Yeah, you watch the the behind
the scenes. They are not friends, no.
You guys are not friends. I don't know if Justin is
friends with a lot of people, but like the I just I do think
the fitness battle would be great.
Yeah, the fitness. I I do agree on that because.
Open workouts suit both of the dude.
I don't know Lazar and open workouts, they're like, you know
if it's bring muscle UPS in there.
I know Justin's great, but Lazar has like, like open workouts
suit both of those guys really, really well.
Isn't Justin just a tad smaller than Lazar though?
Maybe. Maybe the shorter?
That's what I'm saying, shorter, which tends to lean a little bit
better. For for that's, it's comparable,
it's me versus you. Yeah.
All right. Next one Hopper versus pepper.
Oh man, that's two. That's two for me, Those two
idiots. I would love to see that.
Here's here's my only reason why I I.
How is Tia versus Laura better than this?
They're fitter for a while and two and two and two.
It's going to be like these are the fittest.
Can Laura be Tia? Like they're so good and she
can't Don't worry. But but that's what I'm saying.
Right here's OK my only my only reason I'm with you and all the
reasons that you want to put them on too.
But hear me out. Hopper's not going to be great
at the Open. Like like like he's the bigger
guy. He's got like like Fukowski.
He's not going to be good at the Open.
Now. I think Hopper's going to be
really, really good, obviously. But I just think down will be
better. Like I just the workout how.
Big because Pepper Dallin is as big as Jason almost and he's
like 6 foot. He's he's not quite as tall but
like he's thick and but he does move faster than Jason.
Overall, I just think Dallin beats Hopper like and it's.
Not open. Particularly close, you know
what I mean? It depends on the programming,
but I wouldn't disagree. Jesus, first Mormon.
Jesus first Hopper versus pepper.
Southern Jesus versus Mormon. Yo, there's not going to be a
freaking man you. Might have to throw that in
there, that'll that'll pep Jason up.
He got to get his Jesus to win. Where?
Where are you guys going? Where are you guys going?
I'm going to say 3. I'll go with three.
I don't. I, I you.
You kind of won me over on that last one.
Uh, oh, you you won. You won me over on that point,
John. There we go.
All right. Thank you.
I appreciate that. Yeah, that's.
Two versus Warbath. But like.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
I I agree.
Tia Toomey is just going to dominate Law.
It doesn't really matter what the programming is, it's not
going to be machines. The only thing Laura could beat
her at is rowing. Like if there's a Max lift, I
think Laura wins in the Max lift.
But unless you get like a 15.115 point 1A, like the Fraser
Froning battle, like I think Laura wins one and Tia wins one,
that'd be cool. Do you?
Think they could do If they did another one like the rogue
finale could? Could Laura hold her off again?
Yeah, I think, I think Laura could still would still win
something like that. That's not going to be an open
work. Why?
Too heavy? Yeah, it starts with that
weight. It doesn't go up higher.
And so if you think you take the weight down, Laura can get.
It's more endurance. No, no, no.
I just think there's an endurance factor.
Once you take the weight down, the reps go up and then it
automatically changes into more of a cardio workout where as
long as Tia can do the heavy weights, which she can't, it's
it's a different, it's a different workout.
It just is. I'm so excited to see who the
last one is. All right, we both agree on
this. Two.
I mean, I feel like we won this blind rankings.
I don't think 5 can. I don't think 5 can ruin this.
I don't know of a match up that could exist and the last one to
screw it so. It's going to be ready to hold
up. Can we guess it?
Can I guess the match up? Yeah, see it.
I think it's going to be Emma Lawson versus Emma Carey.
It should be Emma Carey versus Danielle Brandon, but Emma
Lawson versus Emma Carey and then I think 5 would be the
right call on that. That's my guess.
What about you? It's rich.
It's Rich versus Matt. Stop.
It's. Definitely not rich in that,
John. Brandon oh, Danielle.
Brandon versus Emma Carey. Good.
I'm glad you picked the right match up.
We picked right. This is good.
No, I'm with. You.
Yep. And there's no, there's no like
animosity between those two. They're just kind of polar
opposites, attitude wise, like, personality wise, personality
attitude, mental, like. They're just kind of polar
opposites. So like.
Opposites. They came from the same training
camp. They're not going to kind of
beat. I think Emma Carey wins like.
Almost every single one. It's kind of like hopper versus
pepper for me. It's not that down so much
fitter than Jason Hopper. I do think he's fitter, but I
don't think he's so much fitter. It's just the open workouts I
think will suit Emma Carrier better than Danielle Brand.
Yeah. Especially now with the open
probably going to be the way it is the way it is.
Yep. There you.
Go I feel good about this. Yep.
Good job. I think I agree.
I'm so glad we didn't carry it up above Justin and Lazar, but.
Now, I would love it to be like a rowing workout Dallin versus
Hopper. And then there's like, it's like
an AMRAP, but there's 20 Cal rows and then just kind of gives
Hopper a shot, you know what I mean?
Not that talent. I mean, Dallin's not really
giving any, like, very much, but I do think he'd give Hopper a
shot. Yeah, the Would you really like
to watch Emma and Danielle over Justin and Lazar?
I think so. I think.
I think for them, I don't think there's any animosity, but I
also think they both want to. Coming from the same camp, I
feel like there's desire, like need to beat the other one.
And after this past season when they were 8-9, I think.
They're always Immacarry is routinely one spot above
Danielle Brandy every single competition they do.
Right. So I think it's that kind of
they're right there next to each other.
It's like Austin Hatfield and Colton Mertens right.
What happened? It crash and.
Then you should put that match up up there.
I would that match up for me? We could probably.
Get really high. I like Hatfield versus Colton
maybe? I don't know if we can get
Hatfield to do it though. Hatfield to go down and all
three of. Them.
That would be dope. And there's probably going to be
a that's probably going to be a lift at the end of it.
I would. Be nervous.
I would be nervous if I were Taylor going against those two,
especially in the open. He asked for it, man.
He wanted it, I don't feel. Nervous.
Oh yeah, he's ready. Yes, good for him.
So yeah, there you go. Giant rankings?
That would be pointless, Mason. I win everything.
Next topic Wait. No, I got to look this up.
No, no, no, that is not true, John.
What's that? OK.
All three of us go head to head. John thinks he can win every
single one of them. There's no chance.
I think spin's on Mars I. Think he might.
You're wrong. I'm going to pull up the open
right now. You can't pull up.
Last year I'm a different person than last year.
I've been drinking my Oval tea. Yeah, that and he's been
running. You and Henry.
Yeah, now, Henry, Adam running with me.
They don't run. A nice All right, I teased it
last week. I published the article he was
on Friday. So how can Cara Saunders, Jamie
Simmons and Emily Deroy help Oceana earn a fourth spot to the
2024 CrossFit Games? So if you're not familiar with
it, Oceana gets 3 guaranteed spots and then based off the
number of athletes in the top 100 after quarterfinals, you
then do the daunt method and you allocate the 17 spots to the
regions. North America, East, West, and
Europe got all 17 last year. What you need to have is 5
athletes, 5 men or five women in the top 100 to be able to get
one of those extra spots. And what you have here is kind
of looking at it like now that we know Ellie Turner's in, she's
currently in 19th, you have Jamie Simmons in 31st, you have
Maddie Sturt 62nd and Emily Deroy in 67th.
You only have four. We're going to assume that Tia
ends up going North America East.
So the problem is you have Jamie Simmons and Emily Deroy both
going team this year, and then Cara Saunders would come back in
the top 100, but she's also going team.
However, I guess one thing to speak about that Grace Walton,
Bailey Rogers, Georgia Pryor, Jemma Hawk, Laura Clifton and
Julia Hannaford all will probably not break into the top
100 this year. Really.
Before, before, after quarterfinals, right.
Because the opening quarterfinals are negligible,
like you really don't gain any points from it.
It's only in semi finals in the games where you make those big
jumps by doing well. So they're not going to move up
and so right? And so the the issue is, but you
do have Caitlin Vanzill who can move in because she did not
compete in the 2022 individual quarterfinals.
So when she does compete in the quarter finals, she will gain up
to 2000 points and bump her into the top 100.
So now you're looking at Maddie, Ellie and Caitlin, but you need
two more and that's where those three, those 3, all they have to
do is sign up for individual quarter finals.
It looks like they will need to at least do the workouts 80%
capacity. Like they don't have to go out
and try to win it right, but do well get 1900 and you know, 1900
points out of 2000. Oh, I see.
Yeah. Just make it your workout of the
day, just like your morning workout is the quarterfinal
workout, and that's it. You're training anyway, What's?
Yeah, just make it the morning work.
It's five or it's 6-5 days now, so you can just do 1A day and
just that's your workout for the day or like in the morning, you
know what I mean? And so you don't have to even
bury yourself. I mean, they really just, they
they just have to do well. It's based off the percentage of
athletes. In quarterfinals, every
percentile is worth 20 points. So you have to imagine that
Cara, Emily, and Jamie all doing it.
Even though Jamie is going to be on a team in Europe, she's still
part of the Oceania region. All they have to do is do well,
OK. And it they're going to get 1900
points out of 2000 or more probably and then break keep
into the top 100. And so you do that.
You have 6 athletes in the top 100, they're going to get a
fourth spot. Have you done the math on who
would bump down? That's where it gets tricky
because. Seems like North America.
West Valentina Rangel would be #100 who gets bumped out but
she's tested positive, so then it's #199.
So you have a whole bunch of those who a lot of insurance and
outs, right? So all the athletes are go team
that don't do it because they don't care.
We'll be bumped out. Christine Cole and Brainer's out
like those types but then you have Tia comes back, Haley would
come back. Mal's already in there because
she did did the quarter she signed up for the quarter
finals. So it's it's hard to say, but we
don't have a situation where somebody out of Oceania will get
bumped out by one of them. They're not going to bump each
other out. It's very, very unlikely that's
going to be the case. And so you'll be the first time
where somebody outside the Big Three actually get an additional
qualified spot, yeah. And her name is Grace Walton.
It's one of those, those extra ones.
You think it would go to grace? Yeah, for the Torian, yeah.
Yeah, I wonder if. It it opens up wide and and
what? What's, what's?
Tell me your four. Tell me your 4, Brian.
I would say Ellie, Maddie, Grace, probably Caitlin.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like they you actually have one
extra one. I I'm not doing what you're
saying, but like as far as like people that we think and then
one more. You know, you know what I'm
saying with that? Because Jamie's on a team now,
like we always put, you know, Jamie was there's always kind of
one girl that we thought she's deserving and she didn't get it.
Like that's always been the case, right.
There's been this one girl. It's been Maddie starred a
handful of Times Now. There's one extra spot of people
that, you know, we think should be there that haven't been, and
then there's plus another. What do you think about this
from helping? Do 2 retired indie athletes care
that much to get a spot in a process?
CrossFit may just. Change in a year, Australians.
I think, I think, yeah, First off it's Australia.
So absolutely they have a pride for that.
But I think, I think you kind of, you don't owe it to anybody.
But like, why would you not want your country or your region to
have another spot? Because I'm sure like you need
to think. Would you not want somebody to
do this for you and admit nothing to them?
All you had to do is do the workout.
You don't even have to kill yourself.
That you're probably already doing anyway.
That you're probably already doing anyway, for sure.
And like like it's not. Even if you're retired, you're
still working out. Look at Scott.
They're all they're all still. Competing they're they're just
going the. Team, I know, but he said.
Retired, right? So even if you, even if you were
retired, I think you're still working out.
Why would you not to help a fellow compatriot?
Now you know what I'm saying. Well, yeah.
No I I. It's really what Tia could have
done for Australia last year. Had she stayed home?
Yeah, but Tia hates Australia. It's a known fact.
It's been no. Question if she had.
If she had, just if she had just signed up and paid the
registration fee for the quarter finals, she would have been in
it. Yep.
I don't know what that would have looked like after quarter
finals, but she would have added one more of Oceania into the top
100. It could have made a difference.
And I think you're right Tyler, I think that Australia has this
country pride or the region pride of, you know, because
you're including New Zealand that they they felt like they've
been underrepresented. I mean, I think we can all say
the guys are definitely underrepresented, but they don't
have the same opportunity as the women do.
And I think, and I know Emily Deroy shared the story, so she's
aware of it. If they're all talking and say
look, we can get an extra spot and basically they would pretty
much solidify Oceana from getting 4 spots going forward
every single year because of the points you get more.
Points from the games, all you. Got to do is go to the games
pretty much in the top 100 for two years so and.
So your people can't make the games anymore, like your
assuring 4 spots. Right.
And it you know there will be, you know that some will drop
out, some will come in and then you'll have a mix of at least
five to keep that going. And so I think it's the women
should band together doesn't again, you don't have to do it
and go go all out. You just have to be on the
leaderboard and do well and not just put a zero on to to
guarantee it, and I think they would then make it.
So It's an interesting concept. I think it would be pretty cool
story if we find out in a few months that Oceana does get a
spot and it's because those three women end up signing up
for it and then. Now the and the men are
separate, right? And the men are.
Separate men are separate. Yeah, it talks.
It's top 100 of your sex, not your.
Yeah, OK. Yeah, and so I think Baden Brown
would be one. If he came back, they'd have a
shot. Yeah, but he's in.
He's in Atlanta now, right? Or am I making?
People still compete out of Oceania.
Yeah. So yeah, it's we'll see.
I mean, when you look at the world rankings of the day,
again, they're not going to change that much.
The only time it's going to change is if somebody doesn't
compete. So you'll see Christine drop
out, you'll see all those that tested positive drop out and
then but you're not going to gain points unless you did not
compete from the last two years in opener quarterfinals, right.
But you're just basically replacing what you did two years
ago in those in those two things.
So it doesn't really move. So we have a pretty good
indication of what it's going to look like.
And from what I can tell only the Oceania women have that
opportunity to add a spot. There may be some shuffling
between North America and Europe, but I don't really look
at that as a big deal. Like if you go from 12:00 to
11:00, not a big deal. If you go from 3:00 to 4:00,
that's a. That's a that's more of a a
story. Yeah.
And it it keeps giving. I mean that's that's the reason
they should do it is like if they make that happen this year,
it just continues to happen forward.
And so it's like one year and you just have to try a little
and it's. No cost to you at all. 50 bucks.
But yeah, if you sign by, By the way, if you sign up for teams,
do you have to pay another registration fee for Indy?
Yeah, so it's 50 bucks. An additional 50 bucks.
I'll send you the cash. I want you to do it.
I'm sure there's plenty of people here watching from Oceana
that would love to see a fourth athlete make it there, so I'm
sure a GoFundMe our. Our show is actually very big in
Oceana, comparatively our percentage.
What's that movie? Almost famous?
We're really big in Belgium. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As y'all know, as y'all know, 80% of our viewers are from the
Oceania region. Isn't that crazy?
80%? I didn't know that.
That's why that means like, America hates us, but we are
killing it in New Zealand and all stuff.
We're probably more Australia than New Zealand, given our
inability to remember that Bailey's from New Zealand.
But. They'll be.
We've learned. We've learned.
All right. We got a new, we got, we're
going to wrap it up here, a new segment.
This is how we're going to get the American viewers we're going
to. Camp Betting with the Boys.
It's a new new segment here. Tyler, do you want to spear what
we're doing? Yeah, so we're just setting up
prop bets, essentially. We're, you know, basically
picking one or the other or one of the few pick picks.
I spelled babbling. Wrong babbling, babbling.
Can you make that Dick? Can you make?
No. I love that coin, by the way.
I spent a long time making that. Coin Yeah.
Can you make a real coin? Can we?
Can we like? We could probably get them
conditioned. I I'll figure that out.
Just need one. The winner of Challenge Coin?
Oh, that. 'D be.
Dope. We could flip it and be like if
it's on the mountain you got to do this, if it's on pilot space,
you got to do this. Yeah.
So we're just setting up prop bets.
I will leak something early that I probably shouldn't leak.
Is that. Aaron Aaron.
Don't listen. He one.
He. One is not going to have
something like prop bets in, in the app.
So we're launching that for the open.
So we're kind of just teasing that here.
It's it's essentially gambling. We're not setting any rates, but
we're just making our picks And so I know spin, we're going to
keep track of the picks and track them throughout the year.
We're going to do a track of the year and then our loser will
have to do some type of punishment.
You want to You want to make the punishment right now.
Oh Jesus. And so the end of the year, at
the end of the year, we're going to say it's the the day after
the CrossFit Games. So the show after the CrossFit
Games we will recap who's gotten the most right, who's gotten the
most wrong and and you know we might have some awards.
We haven't talked about it yet or but the punish the person
who's got the most wrong definitely will have a
punishment. I think we should figure it out
right now. I'm OK with it.
I think that punishment should be different for all of us.
I think. You should have to run 10 miles.
That's not a bad punishment, man.
I I I run seven on every. Every.
Every day. Let's go ahead every.
Day. I think we come back next week
with the punishment. It's still too early.
We won't have our answer. OK, hold on, hold on.
So we all three come up with punishments for all three of us,
and then we agree on the punishment for each of us.
Does that make sense? Tribal decision.
So, like, you come up with your own too, right?
And then just whichever one the team likes the best for you,
that'll be your punishment. And don't be afraid to throw
them in the comments to we'll read them next week too, Those.
Could be I I love that. I love that.
Yeah. All right.
First bet. First one when will thrusters
show up in the open? Which?
Week and people Can people, can people do this in the app?
Tyler, like these questions will be in the app.
This is this just for right now. During the open, we'll have some
stuff. This one is actually on the heat
one Instagram. You can go vote there.
I have the votes right now already.
All right. So it'll be week 123 or not at
all, so. What do you think, John?
When we'll thrust the shop in the open, yeah.
Yeah. 24.2 and it will be in the form of a dumbbell off the
record. Oh, off the record, but on the
record, Huh. Yeah, thrusters will show up in
24.2. Off the record, it will be in
the form of a dumbbell. Go ahead, spin.
I'm going to look up this stats that I have on when the open
shows up. It shows up every year.
We've never had it's. Probably the last workout, The
last workout's probably when it comes.
Down historically was always the last one.
Yeah, and. Then last year was weird because
it was just the one Rep Max, I'm going to say it's the last
workout. I'm going to go back to Castro
style. The last one is going to be
something painful with a thruster.
It's never been the first workout.
Really, it's never been the 1st. Workout, that's.
Never been the first workout. I think it's just.
Because people, like, don't like them.
So what'd you say? Spin Which week?
I'm saying 24.3. 24.3 and John you said 24.22.
I'm also going to say 24.2. I am not going to say dumbbell,
but I do think dumbbell is likely.
Do I get bonus points if it's a dumbbell?
We'll give you a bonus point if it is a dumbbell.
Then I'm not going with dumbbell.
You lose that bonus point, too. The only reason I would say it
may not be is because of Bosman saying it's something you'll
find in every CrossFit gym because there's no equipment
list. I don't know, maybe.
Maybe dumbbells are just guaranteed that you're going to
have them available in every affiliate, but I feel like they
would. They would stay away.
They continue to put it out as an equipment list.
I would love a a repeat of 20.2. I know Peter's question was like
which of the first self pornography and maybe they
shouldn't be the first one, but if y'all remember 20.2 was the
20 minute amrap of four dumbbell thrusters, 6 toes to bar and
then 24 double unders. That workout was so deceptive
because you'd go like 10 or 11 minutes flying.
They're doing great and then right around the 12 minute mark
just explode. And it did that to everybody.
Didn't you didn't, didn't Castro say in his we can review that it
was going to be something completely different in such a
totally. Different.
For this year. Yeah, that makes me.
Feel like it's 24? Yeah, go ahead.
My thought is 24.1 will be fight gone bad.
Oh, I. Don't think we've ever done a
workout like. We've not done a fight gone bad,
no. Do you think that would be?
Where you can judge? No, because it's just reps.
Like you just counted reps? Yeah, but the problem is you can
game the workout to where you can get more reps on certain
things. OK, that's the point.
But like if you're fit enough, you're not gaming the workout,
you get maximal reps. On everything, it's it's wall
balls. The only question is like sumo
deadlift tie poles. That would be something new.
But again, you could do it. It wouldn't be a terrible.
Standard. It could be a fly gone bad
style, you know what I mean? You 4.
Oh, just in a row. Yeah, all those things are very
common. That'd be cool. 4 movement, 16
minute AMRAP, 4 rounds of each, No rest minute and you just do
most reps you know what I mean? I haven't done Fight Gone.
Bad. I think that'd be really hard to
gain, especially if you don't have a rest minute.
I'm going to write a fight gone bad, but like a two point O
something different. There you go.
That'd be fun, that was. I used to do that all the time
back when I first started. Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Doing it as long as you returned back to and see if you could do.
I want, I want to so it's off the record for that dumbbell.
If it's thrusters and it's not a dumbbell, I still want my point.
It's just off the record. I think it'll.
Be a side bet. Helping Boss had an IG story a
couple days ago with a censored text that made it sound like a
couplet and aligned with Dave's Week in Review.
The. Ups and burgers, yeah.
Bring those back. Good idea. 7 minutes of V UPS,
That'd be different. Oh.
Dude, everybody can do it. Yeah, I guess they wouldn't live
listen to the level one of their all.
But that thing's so sketchy though for V UPS.
Do you agree with this John? Fight gone bad is irrelevant.
Now it's slinging a bar around like a Jag ass for 20 minutes.
I think you could any workout, you know, frame is irrelevant.
You're just flopping around the on a pull up bar.
Like, I didn't even say that Bernie works.
Yeah, I. I don't think it's irrelevant.
I still think it's good cardio. I think if I did that workout, I
would be breathing heavy. I'd be sweating like it'd be
good cardio, right? It's not Missy Heavy.
Yeah, go faster. Is is Jackie too?
Is Jackie irrelevant? I don't think so.
Just because I can do it, I'm broken.
It doesn't make it mean it's irrelevant.
You might just be you've won the workout.
You're fit enough that it's not hard then just which is not true
then do something harder. But but I'm saying I don't use a
use a 30 LB ball ball. Make the weight heavier like
it's not. I don't think if you went out.
Still five time bad. If you sprinted the first round
and went just, I mean ball out and you in your row, you ended
up pulling whatever what, 3000 calories per hour?
Like for a minute? You would not recover out in a
minute and do as many wall balls the next minute as you did the
first minute. It definitely is what you make.
Right. And I Now maybe you might have
tapped yourself out on the workout, but then get fitter and
come back. Right.
Fight Helping says fight gone bad would match up with how they
promoted the benchmark workouts in the app with 5K run and
having cap athletes do grace. I don't know.
I I see. I see.
Castro as being maybe a little bit more, going back to his
style of like, you got to suffer, you got to dig deep,
especially in the open. It's not something we've ever
done like this exactly right, and we go back to the history of
the sport. The roots.
Yeah, yeah. Fight gone bad.
You heard it here first, folks. Yeah, I agree with him when he
said like in a comp setting, but this isn't a competition
setting. This is a workout at your gym.
I know it's the open repeat top 25%.
It's not a competition setting. It's been on repeat that the
Open is not a competition. Anymore all all we're trying to
do is get the top 20 percent, 25%, two quarter finals like and
the and nobody that is in that will ever fall out of the top
25% in this workout. It's not super serious.
It's more like, Hey, Tyler, what'd you get?
I got this. Oh, you beat me by two reps You
know what I mean? Like, it's more a community
shit, which is what they want, right?
They don't want it to be serious.
They want it to be a community. Everybody together.
And then if you're any fit at all, you'll make it to quarter
finals. And then quarter finals will
probably get a little bit more serious.
We'll see what we Oh, I I have no idea.
That's. Yeah.
OK. Yep.
Next. All right, Prop #2, The number
of times Castro does an open announcement over under 1.5.
I'm going under. I'm going under.
You're saying that you're sticking with one or zero?
One or zero? I'm going to go with over, I'm
going to say even if he doesn't, he thinks he's only going to do
one, he'll do the first one, he's.
Doing the first, he for sure is doing the last.
And then he will be like, I want to continue to do it, no.
He, for he for sure, is doing the first one.
If he's doing them at all, there's no way he does the last
one. If, if he if he does like only
one. No, I'm saying he's going to do
the first one and even if he doesn't have plans to do the
second or third, he'll he'll kind of like end up doing it.
I think he just, he wants it. It seems like every year he's
just wanted to give that away for some reason, which I don't
know why he's so key to the open.
He's he is almost the open. You know what I mean?
Like the open feels like the open with Dave, and so I want
him to do all three. I don't think he's going to.
I look at. That step on do the last one.
They're trying to get more viewers, not less.
I I think what Castro did with announcing Hiller's suspension
is part of what he does right? Like, he got people talking
about the Open last week when there was no news coming out.
Yeah, right. Like, that's what he does.
He enjoys that anticipation, build up suspense, throwing the
hints out there. He may never admit it, but I
think he does. I think he really likes it.
And he'll go out there. He'll do the first announcement,
he'll see how the community relax and really liked it.
And he'll be like, I'm doing it again.
I get it. I can't.
I can't not do it, so I'm over. How many fall?
Well, you know they want as much publicity as possible.
They want as many views that they want as many people doing
the open as possible. Dave only helps that.
I don't see how addict like who could you add besides The Rock
or Taylor Swift to the open announcement that's going to
boost it more than Dave like. Inside Dave, do an open
announcement. Then The Rock do an open
announcement. I don't want the same freaking
Danny Spiegel wins the Titan games.
Matt Fraser wins the freaking open, right?
Keep the rock at this. Dave Castro is my open
announcer. 738,000 followers he has right now.
That alone is why he should do all three of them.
Yeah, if you have don't understand Dave's ability to do
the open announcement, go watch an old 1 from 2017 or earlier
and then go watch the first year 2019 when he didn't do it, when
they just started reading off a card because they've never
really seen it, they may have not even seen.
It at times or they're fine. They're doing their best.
Complete, complete offense. No, but I'm saying they're not
Dave Castro. He has he has a knack for like
he he, he, yeah, the greatest showman, said Castro is our
Greatest showman. Like, he's good at, you know
what I mean? Like he he makes it suspenseful
and it's like, yeah, it's cheesy, but dude, it's it's,
it's. Great.
He got butterflies. Every time he would do it.
I would get fucking nervous and sit there and be like, Oh my
God, Oh my God, Oh my God. And then that year that they
shifted away from him, I was like, oh.
Yeah, and like, he wouldn't just read it off.
He he knew how to read it off in a way that added even more drama
to it. Like you wouldn't.
Let me write it on a chalkboard and chicken scratch and make you
try to squint to read the Open workout.
And write it. In weird orders and then go back
and then go down and like, wait, what are we?
Doing oh wait wait wait wait wait Reroutes.
Not just one. Yeah, right, Like.
Nobody can replicate that. And so he has to do more than
more than one. I'm going over.
John's going over. And Tyler is, for some reason
going under. That's fine.
I can't wait till I'm right. Your loss.
It'll be. It'll be all right.
All right. Last one for this week.
How many 2023 CrossFit Games athletes.
So athletes who were competed in the 2023 CrossFit Games will
finish inside the top ten of this year's Open men and women
combined. So technically 39 athletes
because Jason Smith is out. Can't we see the top 10 of 2023?
Are you able to pull that up? Let me pull it up here for you.
Of the open. Thank.
You, yes. So this is per per division,
right? This is not.
Total No. This is in total.
Oh, men and women. Total.
Men and women from last year's CrossFit Games that finished in
the top ten of the Open, so we will go back to.
You know, we know which ones made the game, so we don't need
to like. We'll go back to last year's
open, right? So we're technically looking at
2022. Let's see.
There we go. Get Tyler out of here.
All his favorite athletes in fourth.
What? Are you doing Tyler?
He didn't drop myself off. Maybe I dropped two out.
So there's one. So we got 2 Colton.
Ricky 345. But it's a different year.
So this is 22. We're thinking about 22 CrossFit
Games into 2023. So Adler, Colton, Ricky Dallin.
That's four. That's four on the men's side.
OK. Can you go down to the next 5,
please? Oh, we got one coming, Austin.
Half and he's coming. Yeah, but no.
But he wasn't in the 23 games. Wait, hold on.
Their points. Their points are off.
Ryan, I don't think you have it sorted right.
Nope, this is it. Oh, it's it's lower points
lower. I got, I got.
I got. I'm sorry.
OK. So four made it in the 22 games
and made it into the top ten the following year.
The women's a little bit different story.
Is it like all ten of them? So Mal O'Brien, Paige Powers,
Emma Lawson, Ariel Lowen, Alex Gazan, Brooke Wells, Elena
Karatala Sanahua, Amanda Barnhart, Ellie Turner, and then
Zoe Warren. And then do the next 5-10, do
the next 5 Kelly Baker Fuliano domain.
Miss Donut, Man, Gabby and Man. And God, the women are right
there, aren't they? The women are all up there, so
there were four men and nine women, so. 13 I'm going to say
over. I'm going under.
Why are I'm going under Because
of the 25% rule. I don't think you're going to
see as many redos. I don't think you're going to.
People see people trying as hard and so I think there will be
other people who don't go to the games or something like that and
they will redo because it can beat big names and the big names
won't care. All right.
I agree with Tyler. John, what?
What's your reason? I think, I think there's a
decent amount of money as far as who gets the top now.
I know it's not a lot, but it's more than it was. 15,000.
I mean, that's that's good enough to want to try.
So I don't. I think the women just carry it
over. I think.
I think if the women are 9 out of 10, there's no way I can
lose. And I think the women, there's a
gap with the women is so substantial as far as the top of
the top to, like, really good, but not like 3020, fifth in the
games down and top ten in the games.
Women are worlds apart, worlds, OK?
And I just think those women will always be there.
And then I need three guys and Colton's one of those guys.
So if it's a specialty one, I know Colton will be there.
Here's here's The X Factor. You got Ricky coming back.
You got Tia coming back. You got Haley coming back, maybe
Mal. All those who are not part of
the games, who can easily break into the top ten and push
somebody out. So.
Yeah, you're you're right. I just named 4/4 names.
That puts it at 10. Yep, and they will fill the
spots of Tyler Christofel, Zoe Warren, and Elena Caratalos
Anahua. I think.
They were. Voted under.
I voted, I voted under you and. Over.
I'm. I'm saying over.
I just think it's funny that you're making a case for the
over even though you're you're. He's not.
He's saying the under because these are people in the 2023
CrossFit Games. Ricky wasn't there, Tia wasn't
there. He's saying there's a lot of
these names are going to be there that weren't there before.
10410 four And then I think on top of it, I agree with Tyler
where the top 25% rule. I don't think you have to try,
dude, they. Weren't worried about the top
10% either. It's the same thing.
I get it. But like also add in Brook
Wells, that's another one who was in that list there from 22,
she could be in there again. So I think there's a lot of
names that we could see come back and push those out who were
at the games. I think 11 1/2 is going to be
pretty close. I'm going with the under so.
I like it. I like 11 and A.
Half is over. 11 1/2 is a really good line.
Good job. So there you go.
You made the line to. Be now he made the.
He made the line on this. One Ryan made the line.
I made the line, yeah. So there you have it.
Betting with the boys, we'll keep track of it.
We'll we'll have three more, one, three more next week and
we'll continue to go through this as the season progresses
and see who is the best between the three of us.
So all right, good show guys. Heat one, keep an eye out for
that. You'll be coming up with some
stuff for the Open here soon. John, any PRS that you want to
mention on JY Barbell? PR of the Week, there's APR
Week. I'll PRAPR of the week.
All right. We're in PR season right now.
We got a lot of stuff going on. I don't know, it was like 4 of
them. I don't just want to say one,
it's too many. Dimensions I'll just I'll say.
None. I'll bring.
I'll have APR of the week. That's a great thing.
I'll have APR of the week next. Week.
Yeah, I'll say. I'll say 1.
Jessica Wicks cleaned 190 the other day.
And am I lagging? You're you're lagging bad all of
a sudden. All of a sudden.
That's all right. Go to Jy Barbell on Instagram.
Go. Down to John.
He'll get you strong. Go to Heat One and Tyler with
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Bye, bye.