Welcome to a special edition of the Spin.
It is just myself, Brian Spin. It is Thursday afternoon.
Normally it's on Wednesdays, but after posting the article about
Alex Kazan this morning, I think a lot of you guys have missed
what's going on. You guys have have not seen what
the point of this entire article is.
So I definitely want to clear this out, let you guys ask some
questions and I'll explain why all of you guys in the comments
just do not get it. Berry.
MC Cochner. How's it going, Bubba?
Let's see. Oh, Jake is 8th.
All right, All right, so if you guys were not paying attention
this morning, it all started with a talking Elite fitness
interview with Alex Kazan, and I'll play that clip right here.
And let's see. So she was on Talk Elite
Fitness, they're talking about World Fitness project couple
weekends ago and Alex says this. One of my methods when I can't
sleep very well is to take like a micro dose THC.
Gummy of sorts. Like it's like mostly CBD, but
it has a little bit and we'll like Nix that out of the in
competition rules. So like you're allowed to
anyway. I was like, no, don't take it
'cause sometimes it can have adverse effects where like you
don't sleep and then you just feel for lack of like high and
not sleeping. And I was like, don't take it.
Just like lay there and I tossed and turn and all of a sudden
it's like one, I'm like, I'm going to take it.
And then so like I took it and then like an hour and a half
later when it like kicked in, I was like wide awake.
All right, so she says she takes a THC micro dosed THC gummy that
is mostly CBD, but it does have some THC in it.
And I mean I don't know all of the anti doping rules, but when
she made the comment about will saying I nixed that from it.
It it kind of piqued my interest like wait, something is going on
here. And so I started looking into it
and following the rulebook. So world fitness project does
have its own rulebook and you'll see right here page 2.
It says that here is the anti doping policy.
We then go to the drug testing policy, which is AI guess on the
Google Drive and you Scroll down and it has all kinds of stuff
about, you know, testing in their their testing pools, how
it works when you're, you know, you do test for something that
you shouldn't down here in the appendices, it says
cannabinoids. And so, and, and, and just for a
little clarification, this appendices that the World
Fitness Project bans the following classes of drugs at
all times and bans the following classes of drugs in competition.
That is word for word the same as what is in the CrossFit Games
drug policy. I think it's pretty standard.
I think it may even be very similar to WADA, but just kind
of, you know, a little bit less detailed.
But this is what the CrossFit Games has been dealing with or
have been using for years and they're not as WADA goes into a
lot of detail about everything you can and cannot take CrossFit
basically points you to WADA to say, let's take a look at that.
So cannabinoids, when you search what is under that, it
technically is THC. And so let's see if you go down
here in the article, it kind of I kind of still fall out.
All right. So cannabinoids are not allowed.
And basically what WADA says in their sect in their their rule
book, it says cannabinoids are prohibited in competition, in
competition. The definition of in competition
per WADA is you'll see it up here, the period commencing just
before midnight on the day before the competition.
So this will be Thursday night at 11:59 PM and it runs through
the end of the competition in the sample collection process,
so Sunday evening. So from that time period there
are certain things that you cannot take while you are
competing. You can take those those things
outside of that window. So technically Alex could take
that on Thursday morning, assuming that she would not get
tested for it at you know, and it would come under the 150
nanoliter or nanograms per milliliter.
And so a cannabidiol, cannabidiol, bidiol, I don't
know, CBD does not fall under this, right?
But actual cannabis, THCS and synthetic cannabinoids that
mimic THC are all banned in competition.
OK, So we know Ghazan took it. She said she had taken it.
But we don't know, does that violate technically, does it
violate the drug testing policy? Right, because you still have to
be above a certain threshold. And so I'm basically calling
that out. And when you think about the
CrossFit game season, right, like Andrew Hiller was
sanctioned for admitting that he used a substance that was
banned. He was never tested and he
received a four year sanction. Alex has technically admitted
that she has used a banned substance.
I think on Sivan's podcast, she said that she used one that had
two milligrams of THC in it. You know, at the time of writing
this, I didn't know if she may have had a therapeutic use
exemption. Not sure.
And we don't know what her drug results to her drug test come
has come back at the comments immediately go to well, why is
THC even being a banned substance?
You guys are missing the point. It doesn't I don't care about
that right? Like unfortunately the rules are
the rules and I'm saying that the rules state that Alex should
not have taken it and she knows this right?
Like if we go to, let's see, when she was talking to Sivan on
the phone today, here it is. She says this.
They're literally like CBD with my godos THC and it's allowed
out of competition. Like in the rules, you're
allowed to have THC out of competition for the games.
Oh, you. Are OK, but you're good, Yeah.
So you're you're allowed. To outside of the.
Games and then the only situation is like in
competition, you're not supposed to have THC.
And so like the games and all that, like I don't take them,
but it's like I said it's micro dose.
And so I kind of forgot and I took 1 and I was freaking out
and before the drug testing I went and asked Will and I was
like, hey, like should I be worried?
Like it's I think it's like 2 milligrams of THD for the one
gummy. And he's like, no, you're like
you're fine. Like I took that out of the in
person or in person section 'cause if you're allowed to all
the time, like it doesn't make a difference.
I can guarantee you it did not enhance my performance.
If anything it fucked me up. Yeah, OK, good all.
Right. Hey.
So, I mean, I don't know, I'm more just nervous now.
Everyone. People are trolls on the
Internet, so this is about to probably be fun.
Yeah, it will. It'll be fun.
Enjoy it. I'm glad you enjoy.
So Jake, I see you're in the comments.
I think the performance in drugs is a lot different than a sleepy
gummy. I completely agree.
And again, my whole point of this is not to say that I agree
with what is being banned and not banned.
Like personally, it's probably doesn't need to be part of it,
right? Like things have changed.
I don't know what is reasoning for saying that you cannot take
it during a competition, right? Like why can you not take it
during a competition, but you can take it a week prior to.
So I, I, I'm not trying to argue that.
I'm not even trying to say like that the WFP should sanction
Alex. My biggest concern is what she
said that Will told her and that is I've nixed that from in
competition testing. I just showed you in the rule
book that you can click on right now, it says that cannabinoids
are not to be used during competition in the World Fitness
Projects rule book. Anybody outside of Alex Kazan
would not have information like this.
And so if you think about let's let's take a different scenario.
Let's say that Brooke Wells was doing a podcast and she said
that she took some THC and she was freaking out because she had
a drug test and she asked Dave about it.
And Dave said, Dave Castro said, don't don't worry, you're fine.
I'm taking it out. Everybody would lose their
freaking mind. Everybody they'd say it's
rigged. Dave Castro's protecting the
people he likes. This is, you know, it's just
CrossFit being CrossFit now. There's a few people out there,
but a lot of people are just attacking.
Why is THC even being an issue? They're not missing.
They're missing the point of a director of sport just said
that. Don't worry, I've changed the
rules without changing the rules.
Like that's a problem right? I I the Seth D Am I on her side
or is this more aimed at WFP and Will?
I'm not trying to take a side on this.
I'm trying to point out the issues that are in the comment
section, right. And I think it also indicates
like we've seen CrossFit in the past.
I wrote about it last year. This Marcia Van Gladden CrossFit
has the ability to sanction an athlete who has been it's under
a sanction by another governing body.
In a marsh's case last year it was a a masters competition in
2021, weightlifting and she CrossFit saw my article and they
ended up giving giving her the sanction and she could not
compete at the CrossFit Games in the masters division.
So the question is, does CrossFit do anything right?
Does does does admission of taking something you're not
supposed to be when competing in a competition that's not
CrossFit Games related? Does CrossFit have the right,
the obligation to follow its rule book?
It says may like does that matter right, if WFP ends up
sanctioning Alex because maybe her, her, her test comes back
higher than what it should and they're not going to listen to
what will said, but it what the rules say.
It's a little bit more clear cut.
Like my guess is CrossFit follows that.
But if not, what does CrossFit do right?
How do you handle a situation that's in my opinion, pretty
Gray of it's not a CrossFit Games competition.
She just said she took it. We don't have a test at this
point if, if World Fitness Project doesn't report it
because Will decided to not follow what's in the rule book,
what does CrossFit do right? And you still have a situation
where World Fitness Project is and Will made a comment to an
athlete that is in contrast to what they have written.
So here we go Alex. I think it's important that not
to note that this was not a special word for me.
They have had this in policy since working with drug free
sport in March. I see the frustration of the
rule book not being updated right.
So if I'm Colton Merton's or I'm whoever else, maybe not a pro
athlete, I don't know, maybe this is communicated to the pro
athletes and not others. And I and I, I need sleep and I
need to take THC, but I don't because it's in the rule book on
those three days. How do you manage that, right?
Like, how do you, what do you do about that?
Riley? I'm going to take down the WFP.
First of all, everything's forgotten about in a week.
Everything. But when people are in the
comments and they are arguing about whether THC should or
should not be banned, you guys are missing the point.
And so I figured I'd go alive and explain why I wrote it.
It wasn't a slow Newsday, right? Like these are things that you
need to talk about if you want to be a professional sport.
How does WFP handle it? If one thing was said but the
rule book says another, how do you handle it?
What are you going to do? What is CrossFit going to do
given that one of their top athletes is in this situation?
So, you know, that is what I want to jump on here for.
Jeff. Yes, there is a rule book out
there. Go to the website.
It's out there. Jessica, this will fall on will
not. Alex.
Again, I don't know how, I don't know what what's been discussed
outside of what is actually been officially published.
So we'll have to wait and see. I don't know what World Fitness
Project will do. Will is not responded to a text
last week about joining the podcast last night.
I don't think they have any interest in talking.
But anyway, that is what is going on with it.
That is why I wanted to make the story.
It's looking at the situation of what was said and how that could
have an impact to everybody involved.
I have no idea shiz what the CBD brand is.
So that's it guys. He communicated the same rule to
all the athletes. The only issue is the rule book
wasn't updated but all the athletes were aware so who
cares. I don't know if that's true.
Riley. Alex was concerned up into the
drug test on Sunday. She had forgotten that she had
taken it, so that would not be the case.
Tyler. No call or text.
Rude. You can jump on it anytime,
Tyler. But you have the link.
All right? I don't know.
Anyway, that is all I got. Go check out the the article.
Read it. I think I've pretty much
outlined it. I think a lot of people who did
comment on it did not actually read the article.
So do that and then go back and comment and see if I was unfair
to Alex or anybody else. I apologize to absolutely
nobody.