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Baz, Baz and John are coordinating.
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Avoid the Storms in Nashville. How are you doing?
Whoa, favorite guest? Is that you buttering me up?
Is that I? Heard that is, that is.
Craig was saying that you told him that you got to butter me
up. That's right.
Yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna start
off, butter me up and then we'll get into the the good details.
Favorite guest today? Yeah.
What is with the penalties boss? What?
Do you mean what's with athletes not knowing how to stand up?
It's literally the same end point as almost every other
weightlifting movement. Could not be more simple.
Wait. Wait, wait.
I definitely, I definitely want to get into that.
Last time we left, the last time you were here, it was right
before the Open. You said, look, I'm excited
about open programming, excited about quarterfinals.
Obviously we talked a lot about how it's going to look maybe a
little bit different from the top 25, you know, top 10% to the
top 25%. How would you rate seeing how
the community reacted and how the community did the workouts
and how that's played out so far?
From that perspective, I've been pretty excited about it.
I think that it's kind of funny, right?
Like we were talking about storms rolling through Tennessee
right now and and that's kind of how I see quarter finals where
it's like, oh, they're on the horizon and our team knew they
were coming despite the early kind of discussion around, Oh
yeah, these workouts are great. Everybody stoked about them.
They're fun to do. I'm like, Yep, cool.
What's going to happen when we start having to dig into the
nitty gritty Because that process is just so far behind
the real time experience that the athletes have to do, you
know, that makes it really difficult.
But as far as like the response to them initially and I think
the the outcome from them I think has been great.
You know, I've heard lots of chatter around just the ease
that they were to run in the affiliate, which is great.
That was a big goal of ours this year and kind of serving 2
masters, you know they were, they were good separator for the
best as well. So I think that was a a big kind
of shout out to the team on that one for you know, trying to push
back and craft everything so that it could fit all of that
criteria into a single four event competition which is not
not easy to do. So I I, I mean other than maybe
a little bit of chatter on the open when they didn't see, you
know, they saw a couple of the workouts from some of the
athletes really honestly, I didn't hear much criticism about
the workouts themselves and obviously we'll get into the the
box step UPS here in a minute. But yeah, I I mean everybody
seems to be pretty excited about how that's gone.
I mean, you know, moving to the top 25%, we still got I think
the right people there, which was, you know, I guess a concern
even though it probably shouldn't have been.
So, yeah, no, I feel, I feel pretty good about the quarter
finals from that perspective for sure.
Yeah. Now you released the semi final
workouts. A couple of them got out a
little bit early. Dave addressed it in his week in
review. From your perspective, like how
did that all kind of transpire? Like when did you find out?
How did the team get together? Like what was the decision about
like releasing that a few hours later?
Well, I mean, I think as Dave said, you know, it's like, OK,
once they're out, we've got no reason to wait.
So we might as well just put them out there as, as soon as we
can. And that's what we did.
And again, you know, it's a good team effort to, to jump and do
that ahead of schedule a little bit.
And like he said, I mean, I think he nailed it.
It's there's a lot of people that are read in at the semi
finals and you know, necessarily so 'cause we got 7 different
events running across the world, you got to have some people that
are prepared for that in their planning and somewhere along
that chain something got out. So, you know, I don't, I still
don't have visibility on how that happened or why that
happened. But yeah, it sucks.
And I think, you know, that's that's something that I think
it's overlooked a lot. When people take criticism from
us from the outside, which hey, you know, that's fine, people
are going to talk and they should be.
That's that's nothing new. But like this stage of the
season I think is it's kind of like secretly difficult because
people look at the workouts and like, yeah, yeah, cool Semi
final workouts. But the name of the game at this
stage is replication. How do you replicate something
seven different times in seven different venues with seven
different staff groups and seven different groups of volunteers
and keep that as consistent as possible?
Like, that's that's always been the hardest part of this stage
of the season. Yeah, I mean then you add in
different language barriers potentially with Asia and and
whatnot. So definitely could see that
happening. John, John.
John, but you. Didn't like he, didn't like.
The consistency part is. That his he's out of there.
Technical issues abound for the last month or so.
OK. Welcome back.
Every now and again it like starts cutting like I I like
y'all freeze on me. So I'm just going to get in and
get out. I don't.
I don't think it's our problem. I'm trying to make it work OK.
You're doing great, John. Going to back to the quarter
finals and the video review process, the box step UPS, can
you kind of give like just a some type of a of a overview of
how that system works? I I think a lot of us have
speculated about like, you know, people are reviewing and people
are giving out the penalties. Like how, how is that structured
across, you know, again, 7 regions, all these athletes,
etcetera. Yeah.
So we have a different team for each region, competition region.
Some of that's just to you know spread around the love so to
speak of of the total volume that we're doing, which is a
lot. And then obviously you know you
want people from different time zones working together that's a
lot easier to keep the communications working.
But as far as the structure of the review, this is something
that we're as we try to be transparent about it, but it it
always kind of gets lost in the fray.
And I also think that sometimes when there's like an old
statement that like it's hard to convince somebody with the facts
when remaining in an ignorant state is like beneficial to
them, you know, So our review process for assessing penalties
is like, it's pretty robust. So let's say that John submits a
video. He gets his initial review.
If he is looking like he is deserving of a penalty, that
initial reviewer can't take any action on that.
That's not their job to do. Their job is to note in, you
know the the notes that we have to their team lead that there's
something that needs a deeper look.
So then that team lead comes by, there's a secondary review.
If they are, you know, confident that that initial review is done
correctly and the penalty is just a minor penalty, they may
apply that penalty. So in that case, two reviews
before any penalty is done. If it's a major penalty or
something more significant, then it gets kicked up another level
to one of our staff and that gets a third review.
If there's any discrepancy then there's a discussion goes back
and forth until ultimately decision is is made.
If it's pretty cut and dry as far as like reviewer 1 agrees
with reviewer 2 and reviewer 3 agrees with everybody else, well
then they move to penalty. Then what happens often is
people will appeal, right? There's no reason for them not
to. There's no cost to them.
They just have to send and say, hey, I disagree, Cool.
That triggers a fourth review and each one of those reviews is
going to be done by an independent person.
So that's part of the way our system works is like, you know,
if John reviews one, he can't also be the reviewer of the
appeal when it gets sent in. So at that point once the appeal
is ruled on, that athlete has had four independent reviews,
which is a pretty robust system. And admittedly it's not perfect.
I mean I think everybody is pretty comfortable saying that.
But you know as far as the leg work that we do do, it's, it is
pretty significant. Yeah, The in the real book and
there's been some talk about, you know you guys change it from
the straight, was it 15% now you have kind of a a range, How are
you going about deciding to 15 percent, 25% I mean or a 40%
usually if if it's 40% it's got to be pretty bad.
Yeah, I mean. Is it too much work to go Rep by
Rep on on qualifying athletes? No, And often it is.
So I guess I don't understand the question.
So yeah, often it is. I mean it is like the, the time
stamps that the initial judges give in those notes.
It often is like, you know, specific numbers of reps and
time stamps for those reps And the penalties were, you know,
the sliding scales, just to account for the fact that, yeah,
sometimes 15% isn't enough and we just need the latitude to
apply, you know, more in line with what the no reps actually
are. Now, it's interesting when you
look at that, though, like 'cause that was something that I
had a lot of concern about. When we're going into this, it's
like, yeah, man, a sliding scale, especially if it's not
going to be understood. Yeah, you got to make sure that
it's not overly penalizing somebody, especially if they
don't deserve it. But in many cases what we would
see, you know, in the case of like a 20% penalty or even
higher than that was the total number of no reps that the
reviewers were leaving was actually less than the penalty
that was applied to them, 5%. So in many cases, in most cases,
I'm comfortable saying that the athlete got the benefit of the
doubt, meaning that only the no reps that were like totally
bulletproof and everybody agreed on all the way up that chain
were the ones that were counted towards that penalty, if that
makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
Has there ever been talk about having all the videos made
public, like? As part of your part of your
scoreboard, yeah, for sure. Well, there's two things that
that I think would save us a lot, you know, if we choose to
do this similar style in the future.
One is just, you know, requiring video as part of your score
submission. Right now we have a system
that's kind of serving 2 masters.
I think I used that phrase already.
But yeah, we have this huge swath of people that are not
looking to compete at semi finals.
That's the majority of the people that are in this
competition. And so there's always a little
bit of a give and take there as far as like, all right, dude, if
we require video from every single person, most people are
just going to say that I'm not interested in playing.
It's too much of A burden to do it and I'm out.
So OK, that sucks. We certainly don't want that as
an outcome. But on the other hand, it's
like, yeah, we definitely want the top to have full visibility
or we want full visibility on what they have.
And you know, when we don't require it as part of score
submission, it leaves the door open for a lot of athletes to
not have video present when they put their score in, which blows
my mind a lot of the time. I mean this is nothing new and
the amount of higher level competitors that we have to go
track down and say hey so and so and I'm not going to name any
names here, but hey dude, where's your video?
And it's like you are years deep in the game now.
Like you understand this process.
Why are we, why are we contacting you to track down
your video? This doesn't make any sense.
You know. So that would be 1 mechanism I
I'm very much in favor of is hey, we we start to separate out
the competitors from just the community athletes.
If you're a competitor dude, it's video at time of
submission, full stop. No, no exception.
I think that's one great change that we can make.
And then secondarily like to your point, yeah, I like the
full visibility because again I think it goes both ways.
If we make a legitimate mistake, then yeah, people can see it and
we can see it and we can, we can work on that.
On the other hand though, there's plenty of times where
athletes are like, hey, here's my best 4 reps why did I get a
penalty? Internet, you know, and we're
that full video out there. Yeah, we saw question and a lot.
Of We saw a lot of that, yeah. Is it?
Can you not just put it out there?
What's that? As HQ they sent you the video.
Can you not just be like let's see what y'all think?
That's a lot. We can.
That's why we did this. And and that's what I'm saying
is that that's a decision we have not done in the past.
We're we're, I guess they said the other way.
We decided against that in the past and I think in the future
that's probably not going to be the case, so.
I think any any person that is in a qualifying position should
be up for 100% public criticism for every single workout, they
said. For sure, because they will be
when they get to Sammy's, when they get to the games, you know.
Yeah and I think that would have with the box step UPS it
probably would have stopped a lot of their well of course I'm
I moved properly or you know everybody else I.
Don't know if I believe that but.
You know you. Think we We see a lot of
interesting things on the back end.
What's? That that's fair.
I I mean. But you take, you take somebody
like Velner, like a lot of the athletes did not publicize their
videos and I think Carolyn Prevost said this like just make
them public if you really think this way instead of a teary eyed
Instagram post. I agree.
Let's see your video. And then I think when Velner
publicized Hiss, a lot of people are like, yeah, he's pretty soft
on that trail leg. Like it's kind of surprising.
I mean, I still think, I think every single step up got no reps
on it, not quite. And I don't know, I don't know
if that was disturbing, but still like you could, you could
see what Y'all are seeing. And it's I I I feel like HQ is
always playing on an unfair field as far as criticism goes.
And I'm I'm a part of the criticism.
I but yeah, you know what I mean though.
And no, for sure, yeah. I do think y'all are able to fix
it. Yeah.
And and I agree, I think those are two big steps that in the
future we can, you know they're they those would be easy wins.
Hey scores have videos attached to them.
Open up the raincoat once the leaderboard's live.
I mean, I I agree with you guys. And Dave also in the weekly
reviews kind of mentioned a couple times about like things
may be different in the future. How do you balance like
obviously it's fresh right now, you guys are kind of living
right through it. How do you balance thinking
about changing stuff for next year?
While also I mean you just launched semi final workouts for
age groups and adaptives today like if you wait till August or
September, like you have only a few ones to do it.
So how do you balance focusing on this season versus also
trying to implement changes because it's fresh right now?
I really want, I really want the answer to this to be that you
have an intern running around just furiously taking notes and
be like, OK, OK. I mean, I to be honest, it's
it's usually not an intern, it's usually like our team, you know,
But but yeah, no, I mean, there is a lot of documentation that
we, we try to do it when the wound is fresh, so to speak,
right, 'cause that's the best time.
So we're like, hey man, we're feeling the pressure around
this. You know, there's whatever
situation happened to be, let's get it down.
And then when we do have those down times, post games,
etcetera, then we can start looking at, OK, how does this
craft for the rule book with specific language or specific
changes. I'll tell you what isn't usually
a good idea is changing positions in the middle of a
stream, you know what I mean? So we got the age groups, their
comp kicked off this afternoon, you know, changing that format
with such a quick turn around while the team is still kind of
playing mop up from the last round of competitions that can
have unintended consequences that we may not have had time to
think through. So you know, typically once
we're doing it, we're going to ride it out.
Yeah, so like box jumps in in the age group.
I assume we didn't make any changes.
There was no contemplation about.
Now let's make a box jump over so we don't have to worry about
it or anything. Nope.
Yeah. And again for that, for that,
like I don't buy the the athlete excuse that like, oh, well, we
just didn't understand this movement.
I'm like, I I don't know how we could have made it any more
clear, frankly. And again, this, it ain't
nothing new. I mean, it's the top of a dead
lift. It's the top of a clean.
It's the top of a front squat. It's the top of an overhead
lift. You know, like this is not
something that's for. It's a good opportunity to tell
them to go back to their classes.
Just be like if you if you go to a CrossFit gym, please see your
coach level 1. Coach.
No, I guess. I guess what I'm saying is that,
like, I think there's valid criticism in there for other
movements, You know, like handstand push ups are an easy
target, right? OK, Yeah, the standards changed
a lot over the years. Some people love them.
Some people hate them the way that they they fall.
Fine. I think that's valid when people
are like, I just want to know how to do this movement.
OK, I get that. But for something like a box
step up, I'm I'm a little less sympathetic.
Do do you think are you 100% in the camp if that's the athletes
fault or? Because a lot.
Of whether it was or not, it seemed like it was targeted
penalties against people who had AFJ judges and all that.
Sort of like hired judges. Do you think it's the fault on
their on them? Because why wouldn't they say
hey, like no reptile? Yeah, well the kind of two
things in there like certainly there's no like we're not trying
to you know single anybody out athlete or official, there's no
reason to do that especially cause most of the AFJ members
they I mean they've been involved in our events for years
and they continue to do so. So like that that's a a very
shared pool there. So there there's certainly no,
you're trying to single anybody out there on the other hand?
That had to after you saw two or three of those you had to been
like. Shit.
Like, come on. Text any of them be like what
are you doing? Well, I mean.
We're going to look so bad because you can't.
No Rep Paige Powers. Like, well, I'll say that, you
know, on that there's kind of two things.
Like #1, yeah, I think there is a shared responsibility for sure
with the judge. And I also think that that's
always like an inherent weakness of online competition.
And a lot of people, I'm sure share this opinion whether or
not it's articulated or not. But like when I'm in competition
and it's live and I say John Young, no Rep, you have an
opportunity to change your behavior.
And then anything else that happens after that is, you know,
you're aware of what the recourse can be.
You're going to get more reps taken away.
You have an opportunity to change your behavior if you
don't get that call. And then retroactively, somebody
comes back and takes a look at your performance Rep for Rep and
you didn't have an opportunity to modify your behavior, Well,
now they're going to stack up because the whole thing is going
to be conducted that way. And that's when you're like,
man, that's a stiff penalty, right.
So I think that inherent weakness of the online
competition format, you know, it does show at at certain times.
And yes, it's a shared responsibility.
Athletes got to do what they got to do.
But I almost feel like they need to treat it not differently than
in person competition, but with an understanding that they do
not have an opportunity to change their behavior if the
judge is not hard on them during that performance.
If that makes sense. Yeah, question here from Jeremy
Eat World. There was some talk about the
forward head like. Oh, like if that's what we.
Were looking if their head was looking down, but everything
else was stacked like was that. That wasn't, that wasn't what we
were looking for, penalizing people on.
It was, you know, hips and knees.
That was the primary criteria. Got it.
Semifinals workouts are out. I guess first question is there.
Wait, a question. You guys love them or hate them.
Well, I've done three of them, so.
Far as Gary say, ask John. He's doing them.
Wait, which ones? Which?
I did.
I did event 6:00 today. OK, Yep and.
Then I I did event. One Wait, wait, how was that
first lunch step? What do you mean?
How was it? Well, one of the testing
athletes who will remain nameless was like, man, that
first step like tore my ass. Wow.
For me it, you know I'm I probably squat more than that
test athlete so I probably didn't feel the same could be
but also I had about probably. A bit longer.
What'd you say? Say the humble brag on the No,
it's not. I bet my time is slower, but I
also. Wait, wait.
I'll tell you. Hold on.
I got the testing. Oh, you tell me who tested it?
No, I want to tell you who it is, but I'll tell you what their
time was. Oh.
I'm pretty proud of my time. I think John may have gone a
little too hot on the. Start the start the campaign
now. John Young Demo Team.
Yeah, let's see it. OK, You want you want to go
first or you want me to tell you the athlete first?
I was 358. Oh, they were 359, dude.
He's bullshit. He's just trying to make John
feel. Cool.
I'm not joking. Go.
That's. Cool.
I'm not joking. So, and I don't know how the
athletes will do it, but like I went 30 cows in 30 seconds and
then I jumped up on the rings and just just to see what would
happen and I went 654, took like 100 seconds on that.
So I feel like I had a huge break from the bike to the ring.
Top athletes will go unbroken and they will just be feeling
the lactic acid right then. Well, that's what this athlete
did. They did. 3015 Unbroken, started
that lunge, almost buried them, and then they had to break that
up. I think once or twice, yeah.
Because, yeah, because I broke the lunge up once I did in 236
foot sections. We don't know how that one just,
you know, we don't know how that is, but that's what I went with.
Well, well, thank you for making me feel good, boss.
I appreciate it One. 2nd Man. Yeah, I guarantee you my one and
two score was not whatever that athlete's one and two score was.
How'd 1 go? It.
It's a rough one. Got to be fit for.
The I don't think people understand.
Like you said nauseous? Yes.
And like you think it's just a running workout.
Dude, those cleaner jerks do something to your legs.
Like my legs felt heavier during that than than event two and
event 6. I mean, he's.
Strong, but he's not a runner. Yeah, but people are crazy if
they think it's just a running workout.
We're talking about almost double grace at 185.
I mean, that's that's not nothing, you know, I don't care
who you are. That's.
Volume. Slam.
Yeah, I was. I was like 2911 and I've heard
of an athlete doing 22 minutes. So I'm like, that's cool, man.
You're really, you're really cool.
What do you? Think, John.
I can't believe you did that one first 'cause you did do that one
first, right? It's the first one.
I wanted to do them in order. But I figured you'd cherry pick.
No, I'm saving the snatch one for last.
Just 'cause. I mean, I know I'll be good.
Yeah, I saved that one on a bad day that way.
Wait, you said you did 2? Yeah.
And Event 2, I did that front squat unbroken, Yeah.
The second time I've done that one twice.
The first time I went six and four in the first set and it was
the hugest mistake 'cause I went unbroken on the second round and
I was like that was so much better.
And I guarantee like fitter, fitter people might be able to
break it up and keep a good steady pace.
But for me like taking that long break and then just do your 10
fronts while it's unbroken and then like I move so much faster
doing it. Doing it that way.
I think I was. I was 1 total bar in the last
round also I decent decent ways from finishing on that one.
That one from the people that I've seen go through it in
testing, we that we farm that one out quite a bit as we were
working up to the semi finals testing and it's like the first
couple rounds were pretty breezy for most people.
And then well yeah, it was like people would hit round three and
like something happened. You're like, oh this is
different now. So yeah, I'm so excited to see
him play out. Yeah, that's how I found the
hunting. When I got to the third cleaning
jerks and then after the third cleaning jerks I was like I
can't, I can't move and I this is like this 400 is about to be
a a trot and then hopefully I can open up on another 4. 100
Yeah, but I really like the workouts.
Like I mean I did I mentioned that I think was it last week
Tyler or the week before when we did the quarter finals.
I I did the correlation first of all and and every workout was
identical, which speaks. To as far.
As they were of how they how they each individual, yeah.
Each effect on the overall leaderboard, right.
So. So it wasn't like overall like
one workout was like looked at the workout one and that's.
Like when you have a Max out event, it's skews.
It's skews that's not correlated to who's gonna go.
They're all .6. Like, they're all exactly the
same. And then I I I get a sense that
that's probably gonna be what the semifinals looks like.
Just kind of looking at it. Yeah, in.
In that. Vein I'm wondering the the the
programming seems to have taken a different shift.
One in that it seemed like so far you're batting 1000 as far
as like workouts, Correlation to the end, the ending leaderboard.
But then also, yeah, it's like it really is cool.
Semi final, so he doesn't necessarily want that.
Why not? Because you want to test
everything. You want to test you.
You're when you're testing more because you're testing for
people to have holes, right? Like not every event's not going
to be correlated. You have a handstand test.
It's not going to be correlated to who wins the.
End it should be in theory, but I don't.
Think so. I think you're wrong, but
anyway. I have no opinion.
What I want? For the record.
There seems to be it like a shift in that direction and a
call back to like some of the old school stuff.
Can you speak? Yeah, that that's definitely
deliberate is trying to keep it simple, you know?
This feels like 2015. I mean, I know it's 2016 workout
repeat, but like if you drop these workouts in 2015, I'd be
like yeah, these these belong in those regionals.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a pretty conscious decision to
keep things simple. Again, at semi finals,
replication's the name of the game, trying to make sure that
that can be accomplished without just killing seven different
teams in seven different locations and still, you know,
doing the right test. And I think, you know, it's Dave
used to do this all the time. I think.
I think I've had enough years under my belt now where I've
been in the driver's seat for some of these major stages that
people try to pigeonhole you. They try to figure out like, oh,
this is, this is the way that Baz is going to program or Dave
is going to program. It's like, well, some sometimes.
Most of the time maybe. But like, that doesn't mean it's
always going to be that way. And it's not the way that you
should try to game the system if you think that you're going to
make it to the Big Dance. I will say Baz and and this is
no pressure on the games at all. All right.
For for you and Dave, no pressure.
I love it. Statements that start like that
are generally. No pressure, right?
I think thus far it's been the best programmed year.
Oh man, like through the season I was annoyed with the Open, but
when I understand when Brian's been finally got to through my
head, like what is the Open now? Like, I get it.
I'm just annoyed with it, the like the programming so far in
the season. I think it's been the best
season so far. How cool, man?
Quarter. Finals and semi finals, I think
you're going to be amazing. Yeah, I'm excited.
I think those competitions are going to be awesome.
Yeah, we saw that this afternoon.
They're not running on the runners.
They have a track. Weekend Real run completely
agree anytime we can move away from machines.
I mean, it's a it's a no brainer when you can do it in my.
Opinion, it's so cool that you were able to to organize that
across all these semi funnels. I mean, I know you put the
little line, the disclaimer line in that it's like they may be
plus or minus a little bit, but like to do that across all
regions is really, really, really cool.
Yeah, it's going to be awesome. And like, you know, it's each
one of those venues too. I mean, there's going to be some
cool moments from that. I'm like, Carson's a great
example, man. Like there's going to be some
kind of callbacks the past years in the course that they're
doing. I mean, like it's it's going to
be great. So you know, I think, I think
last year forget where we were. We were touring A venue
somewhere. Gosh, I can't remember where.
I'd love to hear. No, it's it's like I'm, I'm
getting old, man. My memory is not as great as it
used to be. But we were touring some venue
and they had like a secondary field where they were doing
smaller events and stuff like that.
And we're like, man, this venue, if you were to do a like a major
competition here, you could totally use this as like an
alternative running venue. And we're like, man, you know
what? I bet you there's a lot of
places that could, with a little bit of ingenuity, figure that
out. We should really push to do that
next year, you know, some of these stages of competition and
so that was a big, big driver from like last season that we
were thinking about. So it's cool to see it come
together. Yeah, that was one of the
details that we didn't know. There's been a lot of
speculation on the handstand walk and then also the lunge.
Like, can you share, like what is that handstand walk going to
look like? Are there Are you throwing a
whole bunch of tricks in there, or is it handstand walking or?
I I won't give out the the the full, full details, but the
reason it looks so crazy when you look at it, you know like it
looks so non linear, right, But it has to do with just the out
and backs that they'll experience on the on the comp
floor. And so when you see it on the
comp floor, you're like, oh, this totally intuitive, but
it's. So it's like 48 down and back,
60 down and back and 72 down. Pretty close, yeah.
Yeah. Is there anything other than a
straight handstand walk? I I can neither confirm nor
deny. It's fun.
It's fun to let the Internet talk.
Right, I thought we could get something.
Yeah, awesome. What about the the dumbbells in
the On the Event six? Are you able to say that what
that is? As far as Oh yeah, no, it's a
farmer's carry. Yeah, a.
Farmer's carry we. Have to hang, yeah.
Good. Awesome.
Yeah. Happy Sound.
I mean, the rack position might be reasonable, but like anything
else is. The regional lunge, I could have
seen the, the mixed, the mixed lunge, I was like they might do
that. That's So what we were, What we
were. Saying on get with the
programming was like the it's 72 feet so like the 1st 30 feet is
farmers carry then 24 feet of front and then the last 12 feet
is overhead. Throwback to What final was
that? Was that 21 final?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
The only event Medeiros won. Is that the only one that he's
won so far? Really, man.
Amazing. Yeah, I'm I'm very excited to
see how how the semi finals plays out.
I know we've kind of kept you a little bit longer.
We originally playing. I am going to invite you if you
want to play blind rankings for the next 10 minutes if you have
time. To what is wait, what is it?
How do you play? And if I yeah, I like fun.
So before we do that I got one thing for you guys too.
We're going to release the strength of field distributions
on Friday. On the show Live Cool.
Right now. So Friday, those are coming out
and one thing I want to say about that, you know we since we
introduced that system, you know people are always kind of asking
what athletes are included in that pool etcetera.
And a lot of kind of criticism around like OK, what about
athletes that go team, what about athletes that decline
their invite, that sort of thing.
So this year we are going with only athletes that are active
participants in the individual semi finals.
So that means only athletes that are competing in that division
that have not gone team are not declined for some other reason.
So it'll truly be just the group of participants that are at that
semi final dictating how many spots that they get.
So that means. Cara would not have counted if
I'm correct, right spin? Right.
So I did. I did an article, a little bit
of building Oceana could have pushed it up to three if Cara
Jamie Simmons like you know, but that's all of us have got it
done. That's how it should be.
OK, so it's a little bit different then.
Interesting. A little different.
Yep. Blind rankings is cool.
You got to be able to argue with us.
Did. They have.
Oh, I can do that. Boss.
We looked at it both ways. It's kind of interesting.
I don't think there was any effect in the men's side, but I
think it did change the women's side a little bit.
Yeah, yeah. The women's side is definitely
crazy with everybody dropping out and mixing up.
Oceana has one slot. Yeah, so.
Terrible. So blind rankings, first of all,
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10% off. The way this works Baz is we
have a topic. These guys don't know the topic
and I'm going to pull up five things and you guys have to rank
them, but you only know them one at a time.
So you don't know what 5 items are going to be and you say I
have to figure it out. The reason I wanted to invite
you is the topic today is semi final and regional final events.
So we're gonna rank your favorite final event from a semi
final or a regional so. I'm gonna laying on you guys
heavy 'cause I can remember them, but I can't remember like,
alright, I can remember moments. Do you remember the the event
where I had the 70s, the step overs and then the mixed lunge
bodge? Do you remember that one?
the Seventies 270 down dumbbells.
She had like 50 step overs and then a mixed lunge.
Matt Fraser at lunch, everybody at the.
End That was the final. Oh, no.
Oh, this is the last. This is the final event of a
semi final or that's. One of my favorite events of all
time. It's.
So I'm trying to think what the best oh.
Con Porter probably did it. What that was a good one,
though. That was, what was that?
Rope climbs and thrusters. Yeah, I know.
What the best That was a pretty good one.
Yeah, the best one was Cork is Tendron.
Let's see. So, so here we go.
The first one, you guys are gonna rank the 2015 regional
event. OK this is 15 ring muscle UPS
and then you had a like a clean ladder.
It was a 5 Rep clean, 5 Rep clean ladder, yes.
It ended on like three O 5 maybe. 265.
Oh, that's back in the day, huh? This is where we need will to
bring in or Caleb. I want to say Vinny Gerard got
in the games on this and this was like his home run hit.
Do you know anybody else boss that made it from this?
Jacob Hepner couldn't clean the last.
Bar, I'm going to say Sager made it in like, every regional.
I don't remember a lot of fun races on this except Ben
Garrard. Yeah, I don't.
I don't have a lot of like, memories bubbling up from this
one, so. I'm going to say.
Choose my rank I'm. 4. Yeah, I'm, I'm with you.
I'm four or five for sure. Yeah, four or five?
How you don't even know that. I don't.
I'm looking it up. All right, the next one here
going to semifinals. Last year's bike tows the bar
sandbag carry. I like this one a lot.
It was really impressive watching Dallin.
If you remember, Dallin ended up beating Roman and Hopper.
You bet you had the three bike. Monsters.
Next to each other. That's always fun.
Did anybody get in on this event?
Do you? Know I think some people lost it
on this event. I don't know if they got in
because of it, right? But I feel like I feel like I
remember. A couple of people spilled.
Yeah. Or like just didn't have the the
juice. Yeah, like Kelly Baker almost
lost it because of the drop in the sandbags.
Yeah. OK, I'm going to say 2 because I
like this workout a lot. It's also kind of a trap if you
do it at home. Of personal experience.
I like don't worry about it. It's.
I like 3. I like 3 because I remember the
workout, but it it's not, there's not anything that I'm
like, Oh my God, that's so memorable.
There you go #3. All right, we're going to get
screwed on five. There's a good chance.
Here we go. Next one the 2018 rope climbs.
This is. Your contour moment, yeah.
Dude, this is I could give it a number one or two.
I I know what number one. Is so, so you need to think
about it. Do you have a number one in mind
'cause this is the game we play, if does anything?
I don't know that I do beat. This straight up.
The Marcus Hindering workout. The front squat, The front squat
workout, I think that was just impressive because he killed
everybody. Nobody.
Expected it. That's the workout itself.
Is is cool, but it's that moment that makes it would.
Spin Go that far back. Yes, 100% I.
Don't know, man. He's not a part of the old.
But this is good I've been doing.
It longer than both of you guys. I'll seed.
I'll seed one. If you guys want to go one on
this, I'll give you one I like. One.
Yeah, I'll leave it in Boz's hands.
I'm good with you. I'm waffling Now.
I'll go back to two. It puts us in a really bad
position, boss. Yeah 'cause yeah.
Very good. The split of one and five coming
up, is that what you're talking about?
Yeah. Here we go, 2014.
Oh, I love this one. I put this one as #1 crispy over
64 pull ups, unbroken walks to the overhead squat bar like AG.
Freaking Fakowski had like the biggest fail of all time.
Like he like failed three overhead squats and when.
And he missed it by like 3 points for the first time.
He did it again in 2015. He missed it by a couple, but
who else? I really like this workout
because Richard Scott I think Seth from Jump Ship made a
really good point about this workout.
If you go try to beat these times like people want to say
2014 people were not super fit. I mean I'm pretty sure I've said
that a time or two. I.
Think you said that you're better than Froning.
Is that what how I? Never said that, man, I said.
I said Belner is better than 2014 Froning boy y'all like to
put words in my mouth. I like y'all stuff.
I. I that's that's what happens
when you cut out for 10 minutes or 10 seconds.
You know when your Internet goes out, hey?
Calm, Calm it down. I'm good for one on this one
because it definitely is not 5. So many stories with this one
Graham Holberg not going back to the games ever again.
Yeah. That split the Fakowski thing
reminded me that I think he I think there was a chipper
workout. Might have even been that same
day that he absolutely destroyed.
Everybody. Yeah, like he.
Walked off It might have been, but it was like a nasty long
chipper and he was minutes ahead of the next competitor and then
couldn't pull it together on that final event.
And just like that, that spread was insane.
Yeah. All right.
Last one. All right.
See there? This year's oh, you hate your
own creation. Yeah, yeah.
To be seen. I mean, it could be true.
You never know. You never know.
You got to see it play out, right.
I don't think it's going to be but.
There's going to be some heart breaks in that in that workout,
for sure. But I I agree.
Do people? Go ahead testing buzz.
What do you think the fastest time will be?
On that one, yeah, let me pull up the sheet.
I love that he's got like data on it.
He's got all, it's got all of it.
That's that's the greatest. I am.
Interested in time? Yeah, I bet you'll see.
Like a high two. Like a 245.
I believe it's possible. I already know.
It's maybe a 250. I'll put it in the.
I'll put it in the heat One app. How many people break 3 minutes
45? I would no, I would say how many
people break three over under 10.
Do you think that's? A good line, 10 people.
I think more than 10 will be 3, but I think it's going to get, I
think the drop off from like 3:00 to 2:50 and then 2:50 to
2:45 is going to be steep. Gotcha.
Sure. On on that topic of of how
they've tested it, the snatch workout, are we going to see
anything in the threes? Probably not.
Giggle. Wait in the threes, I'm.
Sorry, I didn't know that 3/23/15.
Wait, wait, what were the? I mean, don't we know?
Frazier was like 6. 605 total, it was like 550 or 515 something
like that. Yeah, I don't think somebody's 3
minutes. Why?
What's what? What?
What is the inside joke that I'm missing here?
What's I don't? Think you know it's mean?
Oh, oh, it means it's like. Somebody else's.
I can I can text it to you. I don't know any, I just, I play
stupid on these. You do You have my number, boss,
I. Don't know why don't you?
Why don't you give it out Latin? Why don't?
You send that e-mail, John, what we talked about earlier.
Go ahead, go ahead and DM me your number and I'll tell you
all about. It do.
We see people dropping this last workout like if it's the thing
about it being overhead is you're well now I.
It's not overhead. I know, but what I'm saying is,
is like, you got to be really confident and the chances that
you drop are pretty good. Because I think, I think they
think it's going to happen anyway.
You think like to hold on to the.
Yeah, if you go unbroken on the muscle UPS, I think there's a
better chance that you get halfway down that floor and go.
You got to drop. Uh oh, how's your hands feel on
that, John? My grip was fine, but again, I
took I took 90, I took over 90 seconds to do the ring muscle
up. So I really think that was why I
also definitely strap my straps to the dumbbells.
And if that's illegal, I I did that.
I did that. If if that's illegal, who would
know? I I just, you know, I did it at
the gym. I love it.
Awesome. Well, boss.
Hey, I was personally like workouts like that where you got
to roll the dice. You know what I mean?
Like, there's certain things like contrast between 1:00 and
6:00. One.
Yeah, strategy's going to obviously play a huge factor.
You got so much time to try to figure out your pace and
maximize what you can do. But I really like some of those
events where, I mean, of course the athlete has to play their,
yeah, their strengths. But at the end of the day, it's
like, dude, you just got to go. To me, I feel like sometimes the
modern crossfitter who's competitively minded, Liz like
way too focused on that. Sometimes to the point where
I've seen good competitors like strategize themselves out of a
win. And I'm like, man, you had it in
you to just dominate here, but you got in your head and and
decided that it was a better way to go about it and it obviously
wasn't. So I don't know, I I like events
sometimes where the athlete is, yeah, they've got some things to
think about, but at the end of the day it's like, man, you kind
of don't have a choice. You got to just rock'n'roll and.
Then some will have it and some won't.
Exactly. Yep, yeah, yeah.
And with three events on on Sunday, that's going to be half
the points available. It's going to be a lot of, a lot
of movement. So yes, awesome boss.
I appreciate it. Thank you.
For you guys. You guys think you're so sneaky,
but. Sneaky.
How? How is that?
Well, I mean, because because I saw that you guys had a schedule
posted and then you're going to talk about it here, you know,
and kind of like dance around it without actually saying that.
You know, we we we know you seem to do it.
We just hope you feel sorry for us enough that you go ahead and
divulge anyway. Yeah.
No, I.
Don't appreciate you half the time, Baz, I'm just.
Talking up. Here I'm the one that spends all
too much time on the Internet trying to find out you know,
when everything. 'S got to, right?
That's right. I was so proud of you for that
moment. So yeah.
Anyway, thank you Baz. Thanks for staying on playing
some blind rankings. First guess on blind rankings,
So. Yeah, you're the 1st.
One, I appreciate it. All right, fellas.
Well, yeah, have fun during the semi finals.
And thanks for having me. I'll catch you a little later.
All right, Have a good one, boss.
Thanks. See you.
Bye. There we go.
Pretty good. That was pretty.
It was pretty slick, right? How I got Boz's number.
I got I got him to ask me for my number.
You didn't e-mail him back? You have correspondence, dude,
Just e-mail it. No, I I do want to wait till
semifinals are over. I got a lot of stuff going on,
man. How much you going to e-mail him
about if it's worth waiting for semifinals?
I don't know, dude. It's about structure.
Your structure, You switching to bodybuilding?
You want to get his opinion? No.
All right. Semi final events, John, we
talked a little bit about. This but.
Well, we've discovered that I'm elite at event 6.
You are. Elite.
I hope the person who did that was him.
Just OK, He would destroy me in event 3.
And four. I don't know if it's straight
handstand walking. I think he can walk.
I can't stand walk a little bit faster than him.
He wouldn't. Destroy me though, bro.
I'm going to roll faster than him.
And I'm I'm, I'm good at handstand walking in One
Direction. You know?
You throw some stuff at me, I'm not at the best.
Yeah, this evening. I don't know if you guys saw,
but John has some stone cold locks he is.
Where did you find that spin? What?
That was your picture. How did you make that?
He's a wizard. Yeah.
It just it just, you know. He texts Wad Zombie what we all
do. The only thing that would be
better is if you could have edited the Austin 316, the JY
316. Not that good, not that good.
But there was some spade up there.
Yeah, that's beautiful. So there may be some changes to
the top 100 now that we know that they're going to change it
up based off of you have to be in the semi finals to make it
into the top 100 to then make it into the Dawn method.
I'm not sure how many people. I guess maybe like people that
declined. I don't know.
We'll. We'll see Friday.
But but you definitely you know you want to get those picks out
there and so I was like let's just do it and we'll see.
So you want to go through and and kind of walk through your
picks and we'll do the the Tyler and I will give our picks next
week our official our. Official Well, I, you know, I
want to hear y'all's thoughts. Yeah.
And and people in the comments, if you got thoughts, let's hear
them too. So this is based on the
estimates of how many people I think I will.
No no how many people will qualify out of each region based
on my calculations of making it into the top 100.
For the men, it's the exact same.
We'll talk about the women here in a second.
For Europe, Kowski, Lazer, BKG, Oldest Upaniks, Fabian, Benito.
Viktor Hoffer makes his first appearance.
Henry Koppolainen Moritz FIBIG Anil Ikai.
Yela Hoste and Luka Jukic. Only one or 222 rookies there.
John Victor Hoffer and Aniol. What makes you think Aniol can
jump in there? I think he's going to smoke
workout one and then after that I think he'll just be able to be
you know the 10th best guy. That's that's seriously, that's
like that's how he's. I don't think there's going to
be any workout where he has a hole where a lot of these guys
like. I think my first guy out was
Bronoslaw and there's going to be workouts Bronoslaw kills and
then I think the legless rope climb workout is are if the
handstand workout has like obstacles in it, I just, I don't
know. I just I don't see as much in
bronoslaw this year than I did last year.
Last year I thought there were three home runs for him and the
other two weren't bad. This year, I know he's going to
be not great in the first workout, right?
Yeah. Am I breaking up?
No, the screen isn't going crazy trying to zoom in and it's not
working. What I think is interesting is
that Spin predicts there are 11 spots, there are 15 guys in this
field that have been to the games and you chose two who have
never been to the games. Yep.
That's crazy. I I don't think you're wrong.
I don't know if you're right, but it's just it's wild how how
many people in this field have been to the games.
Yeah, no. And I mean Europe.
Europe, like men and women, I think, are like this.
The depth in Europe is pretty nuts for people who can make the
games, right, People who make a difference at the games.
It's still it's like 4 guys, nobody else as far as like
actually making noise at the games.
But the next 10 people, like there's really like 20 people of
who can actually make the games in their region where North
America. There might be more people that
can make a difference at the games, but like that depth,
there's a huge drop off. There's a big drop off after
that. It's way more easier to call if
that makes sense. The East is pretty rough, but
the West is I. Mean.
That's always the hard part, right?
Like we know that there's a ton of turnover every year.
I mean 10 plus athletes or rookies historically speaking
and who, which ones of those come in and then which ones you
have to boot out. Like that's the hardest part
about doing all this. Like to say that Braneslaw
doesn't make it when he has some home run events?
It's tough. Mm hmm.
I just think he's gonna start with a 34th place.
And I think it's really hard to dig yourself out of that hole.
That hole wasn't there. The endurance test was pulling a
heavy slip. Sure, you see what I'm saying?
And that's the difference. That's the difference.
Yeah, down in Asia. Morteza Sedigat and Ivan
Kukarsov. I want to know how much you know
about Ivan. I don't know anything he he he
was the best guy in quarterfinals.
I have no idea who he is. Morteza made it would should
have made it last year. Kiefer.
I put respect on on all wait for wait till we get to the girls.
Kiefer. Oh my God and.
You're going to comment on here with this disrespect?
Get asked. Because he cares about all of
them equally, John. I'm the only one who believed in
Braun last year, OK? And now I don't believe him in
him at. All it's it's, it's anal's turn
annual. Annual look and Kiefer even has
the background on on Ivan. Ivan was on the KT CrossFit team
two years ago, their best athlete towards UCL in the
overhead lunge event. Kiefer's in the run for senior
analyst. Anyway, regardless.
Regard. Absolutely not.
Regard. Regardless.
Ivan is. It has to be somewhat fit.
He won quarterfinals, He beat Mortesa, said.
A guy and I thought the quarterfinal workouts were
really good. Oh, he just went.
Up and would have won last year or or would have went to the
games last year. I think I have Siminoff third.
He went to the games he did last year or the year previous.
He didn't have as good of a showing in quarterfinals, but we
know he has been the fittest guy in Asia before, so I think he's
the first guy out for me. But we're going to be honest, it
doesn't matter. These are the two guys that I
picked. What do you mean, John?
And when they make it, I, you know, I'm happy for you guys.
If you make it, you know, Archer, Ivan or Morteza, if you
can get here, Morteza, hopefully you can get here.
You know, until you do something, I don't care about
you. That's wow.
We do. We know this.
About John. Hey, I'm sorry if that's unfair.
Do something. Yeah, being from Iran, I don't
think is going to help his 'cause right now.
So that's week one, week two North, America West, Justin
Medeiros, Patrick Filner, Brent Fakowski, Sam Quan, Colton.
We got Bill Leahy making his first appearance.
Brandon Luckett returns. James Sprague and Tudor Magda.
Yeah, it hurt me putting Tudor in here because I do not think
he is the 9th fittest guy at North America West.
But a lot of these tests are really good for him.
Like he's the fastest handstand Walker in the games in the
world. I think he's faster than
Danielle, Brandon straight line, he put obstacles in there.
Danielle Brandon Still the best handstand Walker in in all the
world, but Tudor is very fast and he snatches 322 now.
He wasn't very good when he did this snatch ladder before, but
he was a lot younger then, so I just think a lot of these events
are good for Tudor. So and that's why he's there.
Brandon Luckett, we'll ride the train until it runs out.
I'm going to keep him to do it until it runs out.
I think he's going to be pretty darn great at event one.
I think he's going to be pretty darn event good at event 2,
legless rope climbs. We'll see if if it's truly a
Viking workout. Like Jr. said for the fittest,
he's one of the best guys on the bike.
He'll be hurting the snatch workout and then event six,
event six, I think he's going to be great.
I think if you can do 15 ring muscle UPS unbroken.
Brandon Luckett's a bigger guy, like I think he's going to be
great at Event 6, so that's why he's there.
Cole up, all these events are great for Bill Leahy I think.
I think he's going to win event three might have a world record
Event 3, and other than that the rest of these guys are just
fitter than everybody. I got Justin winning North
America West. That's my comfort as a surprise
to some. There's not one thing that
Justin Medeiros is bad at in this in this in the except
snatch. And it's more of a fitness test
than a snatch test, so I think he's going to be the best guy.
What about Cole grease shaver? Yeah, I mean, I think here's the
thing, Cole Grease Saber would have been he's, I'm pretty sure
he's one of my first three out, I think.
I just think he had a lot of some really good tests last
year. He didn't do much when he was at
the games, and I just think I don't.
I don't think he's fit enough for the programming not to
matter. And these other guys I I know
have home runs on those events. I just can't say the same for
Cole. I might switch him for tutor.
Sager putting him into retirement.
I don't think Sager can make it to the snatch ladder.
What's going on over there, man? Can y'all hear that?
Yeah. The dog gets growling at
somebody in the window. Before you get them.
And super sticker Thank you I. Wish you could see the Super
stickers. I know, I know.
I think he thinks you're wrong about Cole.
Oh. Boy Rafa Sanson beats Bill on
Event 3. We'll see.
You think Rafa's going to make the games too and he can snatch
like 225, so we'll see. He ain't got a snitch.
Oh yeah, you do. Nevermind.
Then. Then Oceana, you got Ricky
Gerard, Jay Crouch and Bailey Martin.
Is there anybody, I mean, is there anything, any chance that
those three guys do not advance or is it are they wrapped up
after day 2-3 events left? Those guys are guaranteed in a
spot, I think, so take 123 every time.
Yeah, what about every single event 123?
But no, there was a clear if you look at the events, there was a
clear like pecking order, like there's just nobody that's going
to touch these guys. Oceana is just not.
They don't have their as far as the drop off goes after.
The top three guys, it's John's John, John's Canyon.
Yeah, I agree. John's belly is saying warfare.
Life. He's.
Blaming it on his stomach. What What do you think of North
America, West Tyler? West I don't.
I don't think John's young. I I don't agree with Tudor.
I sort of feel like about him the same way I feel about
Christophel. It's just like I I don't think
he's ever going to line it out. I hate to say that.
See the thing about when John doesn't like, likes him?
Yeah, the thing about when, John, like you can't hear me at
all, that's weird. Anyway, I think Cole Greasaber
might be a little bit better of a choice than tutor, but it's
going to be close, so I don't hate it.
Yeah, I. Think Cole suffers from just
being forgotten? Like he posts like 3 three times
in a year. It's usually pretty something
uneventful. And then it's like, oh, I'm here
at semi finals and I just qualified for the games again.
It's like the early days of Travis.
It's just like we didn't hear, we didn't know anything was
going on with Travis. So you just forget about him?
Right. Jon, can you hear now?
Yeah. What about me?
Can you hear Tyler? Can you hear me, Tyler?
Yeah, it's. Like God.
And then on the last week, North America East, Jeff Adler, Roman
Krenikoff, Jason Hopper, Dallan Pepper, Sam Kornbye, Will Morad,
John's favorite, Austin Hatfield, Jack Farlow, Saxon
Panchak, Taylor Self, Travis Mayer and Luke Parker.
Right now they have 12 as my predicting prediction to get in.
So let me. See how many guys have been to
the games. Well, it all of them except
Taylor and Hatfield. 16 No 16 in the field have been to the games
before. 12 spots. Yeah, the East is probably the
most at. Let's talk about Ben Smith.
Is he going to go? Is he is he going to go to semi
finals? Yes, he's registered.
When's the last time he went to the games as an individual?
2018. 19. 19. And he got in on a wild card.
He was a pity. Bugger.
Hey, how dare you disrespect 2015 fittest man on earth and a
God damn American treasure? How dare you?
Do you? Seriously, you don't You don't
think he has a chance? No, I don't.
I just don't think he's dead enough that.
'D be cool to see him back out there, but yeah, I don't think
he has a run in with, like you said, 15 other guys who have
been into the games before. This is old school programming.
You just think he can't keep pace anymore.
He's an old school athlete, yeah, I think.
That's my point. I think, I think they're just
fitter than him. That's it.
What? What do you make of Will Morad?
He's in the Masters division. Shit, he's as old as Ben.
Is and he's still trucking and Ben is not.
Like what? What happens?
Then Morad's going to have a bad event, though.
The guy's a great runner, all right.
He's going to be great on the the event.
One, he won't win, but he'll be. He'll have a good score.
Event two is front squad city, but it's in.
You can stay in the grind like he's going to be able to do that
event. Three's legless rope climbs, he
won't be able to do that. Event 4 is like rolling and
handstand walking. If it's just straight handstand,
walking the road's more important.
He's going to take a little hit, but.
He could get a terrible hit and that's if it's just straight
handstand walking. You know he's he's a he's a
pretty darn good snatcher and it's not like Max out snatch
strength. It's just fitness snatching and
he's very comfortable with that. And then event seven or six,
event six, it's, I think he'll have it wrapped up by then.
I and Will Morad's one of those guys that can make it happen in
the last day. He's like Cole Sager's always
been like that but Will Morad has been too.
He's one of those guys. But I think these events just
line up really, really well for Will Morad.
The worst event for him is the last event and that's just
because he does. He can't Sprint the bike on par
with some of the other guys. No, but he might be able to do
the muscle UPS unbroken. Everybody should do the muscle
UPS. Unbroken Brian.
Just everybody. Well, I don't know.
Again, we don't know who tested it.
Again, if it was boss, then whatever.
But like, if it was somebody legit who?
Dude, it's not. I beat them.
They're not legit. I'm gonna do it.
I'm broken.
I think people will. There'll be people that aren't
near the bottom of three minutes.
Would you do the bike in? 30 seconds, he did 30 seconds.
I don't think you have to go that fast on the bike.
I don't think you do either. I don't think you do either.
But listen, I had more confidence that I could do that
bike in 30 seconds than I was maybe was continuing myself
unbroken. That's.
If you had taken 50 seconds on the bike, could you have done
two quick sets? It would have been the same
speed. You still would have had to go
654. No, no.
I probably could have done it 9:00 and 6:00, but like, it
honestly would probably be a slower speed than that 654.
That 654 was with pretty quick breaks.
But no, I I mean, I do anything. I don't know if I can if I can
do 15 ring muscle ups, I'm broken.
I can do. I'm really good at one set
fresh. Hey, let's see how much ring
muscle ups you're doing. I've done 20 before, but I was
about 10 lbs lighter than I am now.
But you know, you do. I do anything and then that's
like. You're done.
It's cut in half, like I might have had 13 at the most and then
it'd be like I can't do anything else.
Yeah. Yeah, if all these guys are
doing 15 unbroken like. The bike matters.
The bike matters, and I really think you're going to see.
Lunge. 5 athletes lunging right next to each other down the
floor. I do too.
And with it being a farmer. Carry like.
Yeah, it's not the farmer carry. It's not, you know, they're not
going to fail overhead on these lunges.
It's literally just gonna be grinding out.
How much? How fast can you move on a?
Travis Mayer is going to murder this workout.
I think Grip is gonna be a big deal in this workout too.
Yeah, South America. You have Guy Mel Haros in August
and Rochelle May. You don't have Kayake, You don't
have Kalyan. Did you watch Hiller's video?
From this afternoon I saw parts of it was are one of them or
those the guys that I thought it was Guyon Rion that or.
No. Well, yeah.
At the end of it, his video he he, he goes through whether or
not Guy and Danny can make it to.
Back to the game, I just got thing against those people.
Though I agree with him, I I. He actually thinks that Danny
has a better chance to make it to.
I'm sure he does, and that's good for him, but Guy would have
made the games if Event one wasn't there, right?
The numbers are against guy, I think.
It all comes down like Hillary said to the first workout.
He literally. There's two workouts.
Like 3 Auto wins and then he just can't Gee Gee just can't
like have a massive. Snatch.
What's the other one? I mean, Hillary thinks he's
going to win the last. Three Lego stroke clients and
then the last one. Yeah.
And he, and honestly, the handstand walk, he's really good
at handstand walking. Really good.
So I mean those last four of you will.
Tell me if he's gonna do bad on 10 front squats of 225.
Like, no, the fitness one. Yeah, I think he's fitter than
all of those guys, too. I know we make fun of him
because he's trashed at the. Game it's not about.
I don't I don't disagree with you.
It's about the it's about the mathematics of it that if the
the lines are so thin there, if he screws up and gets a fifth,
he's out. Where is he going to screw up?
I don't know. It's the first workout.
We'll know on the first workout if he bombs like he did last
year, he bombed the first one and he just couldn't recover.
Like he takes a 15th or 20th on the first workout with 2 1/2
miles of running. Yeah.
No, it's over. It's over.
He's done, but that's. He's a better runner than most
of the guys from South America. What happened last year?
He's not as good on the machines as those guys.
I mean, he has been running, he's done triathlons, ball ones
in Cookeville and stuff. So I mean he has been working on
it. I just don't know.
I don't think he's any fitter than he was last year.
I just, I I think he would have made.
Zero improvement. I think, I think, I think
whatever he did on event one, he just did the workout poorly,
like he maybe went out too high. I don't know what he did, but he
messed up and worked out one. I think he's fitter than the
rest of those guys. I think Raquel May, Rochelle May
has three home runs as well, the same home runs as ski except a
snatch. But he'll be really good on the
run, I think. Yeah, like if he makes a
mistake, he's gone and it's Kayake Raquali.
But I don't think he will all. Right.
And then Africa. Keelan Hendry, the Frenchman.
That was the one you. You That was the one dude you
knew. Is there somebody else in Africa
that could unseat? I think his name is Darren
Zurnimer. He's kind of like a guy that's
like up and coming in Africa. If he's gotten super fit over
the year and then he just, you know, is fitter than killing
Henry, then he'll he I I can see that guy.
He's very young and he's up and coming.
Other than him, no. Yeah on the women's side.
So this one where it gets interesting.
My projections again before boss said that they're going to
change it up a little bit. North America East actually adds
one from last year gets to 12 and South America gets one to
move up to three and those are come away from as crazy as it
sounds. Europe and North America West
each get one than last year which is nuts.
But going back to week one Europe Laura Horvath, Gaby
Migala Emmetal, Karen Friova, Emma McQuaid Mann and Inganese.
Rebecca Vidison, Jackie Dahlstrom, Mirham Von Rohrer and
three Helga Daughter 1 Rookie, Mirham Mirham.
Mirham. It's a bold call I want to get.
More like Russian when? I say Mirham.
I guess I'm more questioning the last two, right?
Miriam and 30 makes in and and 30 coming back after missing it
now. What do you like about these
two? There's no Claudia Gluck.
She was a big name you're looking at earlier this year.
Yeah. Now Alisa Fuliano.
The pro, the programming man is, is like it it.
That's what I like about these two.
What? Where did me or him come from?
High Rock Space. High Rock.
And like and her and Teary are both really good runners, right?
I think event one is going to go really good.
All right. A lot of emphasis on this first
workout. No, listen, let me go through
the only. One that matters.
Go through the whole thing one. 100% correlation.
Mirror they're They're both going to be fine on event one.
Event two is 50 front squats with 155.
OK, everybody's going to make it to the toast bar and double
under spine. The fittest will rise to the top
no matter what, but. I thought this wasn't a fit.
Front squat, front squat workout.
This was like a fitness test. Yeah, but the front squats are
what's going to hurt people who can do that without feeling
anything. Me or him has done like 100
block back squats for 225 before without stopping.
It's something crazy. She's she's a very good
squatter. OK, Event 3.
Turi is one of the best lifeless rope climbers in the world for
the girls. I think she's going to fly on
this one. She coming from high rocks.
Patrick. She's going to be fine, OK?
She's going to be fine. And then event four, that's
where Lisa Fuliano makes her move.
If she's going to is event 4. Fiona wins that one, yeah.
Event 5 Jerry has one of the greatest snatch techniques and
the whole entire field. She is a Olympic lifter in
Iceland and it's a fitness test. It's not about who can snatch
the most. You don't have to snatch 200
lbs, right. So I think she's going to be
fine on that one, especially for a little girl, right?
And the next 115 ring muscle UPS.
I don't think most of the women go unbroken, but I think Terry
could and I just. And mirror him, mirror him has
been awesome this whole season, right?
If we're going to have faith in her, let's have faith in her.
And wait, I thought. I thought quarter finals didn't
matter. Jon Jon Let's Hire rocks from
Mohammed does listen. Listen, it doesn't matter, but
it matters more in the open. And if both of them are awesome.
Now it. Matters stacking up right?
One, awesome by itself, I don't care at all.
But two, awesome by itself, I care a little bit.
I don't care a lot a bit, but I. Care and she won the European
Championship in IF3 this past weekend.
I don't care about that at all the.
But what I'm saying is she's been awesome all year, right?
Like I me putting her in to make the games is one of the last two
people to make the games is me saying, hey, you look pretty
darn good now if she doesn't make the games after I have put
my faith in her to do it, I will never, I will never pick her
ever again. But you.
Say this. You say something to this effect
about Pat every year. You're like, I'm never going to.
And did I pick him to win the games?
Son of a bitch. It's like, I guess I'm back on
board, boys. Have I been this year?
How off of the Belder train have I been this year?
I. Don't know.
Pretty off, right? I think, I think Terry is a is a
legacy vote for you. I think it's emotional.
No, I think the programming stacks up well for her.
I think you convinced yourself that.
That's also. Fair.
All right, but just like Bron, just like Bron, OK, I'm going to
come back to this. I said Bron was going to make it
and nobody else did. Everybody said I was on crack.
And what happened? He made it.
So when Mir, him, Bon Roar and Terry held the daughter,
freaking make the games, I'm going to be the only one that
says they would and everybody else is questioning me.
And then it's going to come out and that's what's going to
happen. Hey, let me tell you something.
Let. Me tell you something Patrick
Devin Kim is not coming 3rd place OK.
We're not there yet. Yeah, we're that's next week,
Asia Sayer Kaya and Seungyon Choi.
Is there anybody else in Asia that you know, John or those are
the only two names? No, I know my counterpart.
Dewan Jung. Yeah, Dewan Chung.
If I was an Asian female. I Are you sold on that order of
Sung, Young and Sayer? I just know Sung Young Choi has
games pedigree. She's made it before, say her.
Kaya is probably the fittest person that's there.
Yeah. You want to convince me of
something else? Gladly.
Do I just want to argue neither? One of these women, Neither one
of these women matter very much. Sung Young's coming in first.
Participation. To them, your guys are great.
Be better? John hung.
John. That's my stage name.
North America West in Week 2. Alex Gazan on top Ariel Lowen,
Abigail Doughnutt, Rebecca Fusolet, Emily Rolf Hadi, Kanyo
Kyra Milligan Kelsey Keel and Bethany Flores 3 Rookies there
Is Kiefer still watching? Is Kiefer still watching with
Kyra? I don't know.
Probably not. He only watches me when I say
bad things. Hadi Kanye.
What? What?
What do you know about her? And why are you?
Having, I've actually seen her work out, she's she's been in
Houston a couple of times. What's that?
Homer. Pick.
Yeah, it's You know what? What it's probably It's probably
possible because like I see her and if I might she's better than
Kelly Baker then like that like kind of you know it does
something for you. It does I know Brian has had has
made these mistakes before where he's like he works out with
somebody and then it's like oh they're going to make the game
and like right. Yeah stay tuned Sir.
And she's smoked quarterfinals. I looking at her scores versus
other women's scores and there's just unless she has a hole that
I don't know. I think her fitness is deserving
of making the games. I think Kelsey Keel's going to
surprise a lot of y'all on that. And then you want to you want to
say that's a Homer pick you can Kelsey Keel will go sub 5
minutes on this snatch ladder. All right.
I think she's going to go sub 5 minutes.
That's. All.
I don't disagree. I.
Don't disagree with. You on that part?
I just think you're slipping, John Young.
I think. I think.
I think you're getting all these Homer picks in.
You're going to lose your legacy, bro.
It's possible. Kiefer, be ready.
We're going to call you up to the big leagues, bro.
It's. Possible.
There, Danny. Spiegel I think I I think I
think she's going to smoke workout two.
Her fitness might not smoke workout 2, but her legs should
be able to do better than most other girls legs.
And the last workout? If she can trot fast enough on
workout one, if she can get that trot going just fast enough to
not bomb workout one, I think Kyra's going to make.
I think. I think she'll make the CrossFit
Games. Hearing that it's hearing that
it's not on a runner, does that change anything about workout
one? It hurts the bigger people.
And that is the only reason I took Danny Spiegel out.
I'm just kidding. That's not the only reason.
But the the runner is better for bigger people.
For instance, like if me and Tyler were both to get on a
runner, I have more of an advantage on that runner than.
Relative to your, relative to your running ability.
Right, correct. No, no, no.
It's factual, Tyler. Like so, like say, say, I'm not
saying I would beat you. I'm saying like I have more of
an advantage. For instance, let's say Tyler
runs say 9 miles, bro. I'm freaking.
Huge. OK, All right.
We're going to annoy that. Say Tyler has a 6 minute mile
and I have a 7 minute mile on land.
We get on the runner, Tyler will have a 630 and I'll have a 715.
You see what I'm saying? It won't affect it as much.
Real data here. Well, we're running on land, so
Bethany Flores, Dude, I'm so worried about her.
I feel like she's going to get to the second Snatch Bar and
just stop, you know? But she's.
She's. She's, she's.
So. She's so fit.
But you know, I just, it's hard to have faith in her whenever.
It's just hard to have faith in her.
Well, would be great because you would.
Win either way. But you know.
Yeah. You would win either way because
you picked her to qualify, but then if she.
Stopped. You'd be like I.
Told you I I know it's going to happen.
Yeah, I know, I know it's a win win and I think, I think Kelsey
Kill can potentially maybe not win, but she's going to do
really good in event six. I think she'll be the first girl
off the bike if she do 9-6 in the ring muscle UPS.
You know when it's a bike like that, if you can Sprint it and
the other person can't Sprint it, it's you have so much time
on them, so much time like I went 654 and I beat whatever his
face is, you know what I mean? It's not.
And Kelsey Keel will do something similar to the women.
And then those weights are not going to hurt her lunge.
Oceania, Oceania, Maddie Sturt, Gracie Walton, and Caitlin
Vanzill. Whoa.
Whoa, what there, Tyler? Maddie and 1st I I'm, I'm good
with the list. Sort of.
I there's some people I think would go above Caitlin but
Maddie and 1st I think is not. I don't think that's.
True. You put Gracie in first.
Probably. Well, here's I just Dude, who?
So here, here's one thing about here's one thing about Maddie.
Do you think she'll win? Workout one.
She got goodest chance to anybody.
OK, I I I think she will. Of the contenders, Of the
contenders that she has to beat, yes.
I I finish her George Pryor's a good runner and she a real good.
Runner Caitlin's a good runner, too.
But we watched Maddie get Down Under and she was on a different
level than everybody else. I think.
I I think Gracie takes like 8th in that workout and Maddie takes
first. And then after that I don't see
a event where Maddie like gets hurt.
Like I think she's like third the whole time, you know what I
mean? She might not win all the events
and Gracie and Manziel might beat her in something, but.
How's Maddie's road climbs? I don't.
I don't know. I don't know.
But I just, I don't see her getting beat by a lot of people,
you know what I mean? I think those three are just
better than the rest of the field on everything, right?
And I think there will be an event where Gracie, that you
know she takes 8th and that will be enough for Maddie to be in
first place. That's why I have her in first
place. I think she's just more
consistent around everything else I I act like.
It's a stupid. I mean, it could be anybody's
game for real. All three.
All three of them could be in any order.
Yeah, they got to anybody. Yeah, LDY, what John has
Viticin. That's his favorite athlete
we're gonna, we're gonna ignore. That Rebecca is is qualifying
North America East Tia Claire Toomey or Daniel Brandon.
Emma Lawson Alexis, Raptis, Haley.
I'll come back. OK, I'll leave.
What an asshole. That's good.
Caroline Perivo, Brooke Wells, FISA Goffe, Amanda Barnhart,
Erica Folow, Shelby Neal and Annika Greer Honesty gets in
because that 12th spot. Erica, it's another he's he's
losing his grip, dude, this is, she's not Homer Pick, 'cause he
doesn't know her, but he's he's bothering himself.
Listen, Yolo folo is going to come out to play, OK?
This is what's going to happen. You don't know shit about folo
and you're all in. This is what's going to this is
what's going to happen with Eric.
I'm I'm Yolo Folo's biggest fan. It's true, right?
It's true. What do you know about her?
This is what's going to happen. She has the same coach as Emma
Lawson, so. Yeah, same coach as Emma Lawson,
OK? She's she's going to be how many
people they get. They get 12 right?
Yeah. But based on my estimate, yes.
All right, it doesn't matter. Whatever position she needs to
be in Hanukkah, Greer is going to be in 7th place, OK?
She's going to be in 7th place looking pretty, and then Yolo
Folo is going to be in like 15th place and then she's going to
send it on the bike on those 22 cows and she's going to be like
and then blow up on the lunch hard.
But she's going to end up getting 3rd place On that event.
Annika Greer is probably going to get close to last because
that poor girl can't Sprint the bike to save her life.
If everybody had a bicycle and Annika Greer had a bicycle, she
would die and nobody else could die because she's going to be
the slowest 1. I was wondering how you're going
to end that. And then Anika Greer ends up
barely making it, but she still makes the games.
Happy day. And then Yolo follo is 10th
place. I'm more worried about Annika on
the 1st event in the run. That would be my concern.
She's got a good 5K, dude. He didn't like that.
No, dude. I hope he gets all this bullshit
out of the way before semi finals.
I hope that's what we're lucky enough to have.
God. Did y'all hear my Yolo spiel?
We did. We did.
And then I I mentioned that on a career not running.
And then you you hung up. Yeah, she ain't running, man.
She ain't biking either. That's two events that she's
probably going to have a hard day on.
Well, she's going to be pretty great at the rest of them.
How many events does Tia Claire to me win?
All. Of them.
Good prop bet. That is a good prop bet.
I'm going to say Tia is going to win.
She wins one, right? One she wins 2, probably wins 3.
Not 4. I don't think she won't win
four. I don't think she wins.
Ah dude, probably 5 and then six.
She won't win 6 because she won't care.
You're saying 4 over under 4. 3 1/2.
That's a 3 1/2. I feel like yeah say over under
3 1/2 and I would pick 4. That's insane.
Yeah, I'm gonna say she wins 4 events, yeah.
That's wild. Seema Cannons did not see Olivia
Kurstetter on the list. Is she in North America?
West. No, oh is actually took one
away. Yeah, she was the next one.
She was first one out in North America, West.
So explain you want to. Sure.
Are you sure you want to stick with Annika?
No, Olivia's in North America West.
In the West. Oh, oh, that's right.
Sorry. But I had Olivia and then he
took her away because she took her spot and gave it to the
east. I had.
Annika is not making it one spot out, not making it.
But since he took that spot away.
Yeah, I don't know how it's going to change with Boz saying
that they're gonna only count athletes who accepted their
individual semi final. Right.
So I personally, I had Olivia and I had her having the last
spot. Yeah, we'll go down to South
America. Victoria Campos, Emily Andrade
and Julia Cato. What do you know about Andrade?
Yeah, it's a bold pick. She doesn't.
Know anything about her? Could you imagine if he was on
Sevon's right now? Sevon be freaking the hell out,
I thought. I thought we were going to end
the show last week when Jon kept screwing up.
We're we're we're going to get through it, guys.
We can do this. Julia Andrade.
I assume that's how I'm pronouncing it, right?
What do you know about her? So I don't know anything about.
Her. You mean Emily?
Emily Yeah, you don't. Even know her first name.
I don't. I don't know anything about her.
She was second and quarter finals.
Oh my God, you straight copy. No, you didn't 'cause you didn't
go with this. Gabriella, The Q.
Nude. I had these made way before him.
Julia is in 9th in semifinals. And she has no chance.
Yeah, but she is games pedigree. So I just give her the benefit
of the doubt. And I had her third.
And if you wait, if you look at quarter finals and for these
people and I don't know a ton about them like I do look at
quarter finals because I don't know a ton about them.
I don't know their holes. I don't know their strengths for
the divisions that for the regions that matter.
I know all those things about about most of the people, but
for these people that aren't going to make any noise, like I
don't know those things. So I do look at how they do it
in quarterfinals in the Open and if what that lines up for semi
finals and there was a clear gap.
I mean Emily was better by a good margin over third place in
quarterfinals. And by the way, they don't know
anything about them either. They just look that stuff up on
the Internet and then they say it.
They don't know either. They're not looking at them on
Instagram or at all. They just look up numbers on a
sheet. They.
I don't know if that's a whole lot they.
Us. Those those stats don't make me
want to pick Emily, to be honest.
Julie I took a hit in Workout 4, the cleaning jerks and and yeah,
so I'd probably throw that out. If you throw that out, she's
doing really well. And then in Africa, Christina.
Limited caucus, yeah. And her and Michelle Bassinet
were one and two basically the whole entire way last year.
So I would just assume that she would be the number one this
year. I'm going with Gemma.
Do you know one thing about Gemma?
She's the greatest. What, 2nd and quarterfinals?
Yeah, mix it up. I'm just going opposite of John.
Next week, Tyler and I'll bring our picks.
We'll see how we differ from John, but John, John Young's
stone cold picks, so there you go, go to Instagram.
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anyway. This is these are what's gonna
happen. I hope y'all take a picture.
It's on Instagram, so I guess you don't have to, but these are
the people that are gonna make the games.
Are you here first? Heading over to Wadapalooza, in
our remaining time, they announced that they were going
to change the elite competition, the team of team competition.
We've tried to do something like that, Was it Fitfest USA versus
the world? 8 athletes, 4 men, four men on
each team? Just high level overview, Tyler,
thoughts on the new format? It's it's going to be good.
I think we're going to see a lot of stuff we've never really seen
before, given that it's right after the games essential or
it's right after Rogue, right? It is.
No, it's in September. OK, so it's it's closer to the
games. They're going to have to program
it in such a way that athletes aren't going to be fried or can
kind of just show their talents. I think so.
I think we're going to see something really cool as far as
the team competition goes. John, when you saw this, did you
like the kind of going back to the Rogue imitational or not, or
the CrossFit imitational format? Yeah, I think that's cool.
I is what is it North America versus the world?
Yes. Yeah.
No, no I mean it's kind of North America versus Europe and
Australia but so I I don't I I would almost rather we go back
to like USA and then Canada and then Oceana and Europe.
I like that but I understand like that's that's NIT picky.
I mean I think it's cool I I love the Invitational we kind of
I think we just kind of have to see and see what it is before we
can pass judgment on it. But yeah, I mean, if all the
athletes compete, everybody just wants to see the fittest people
in the world more. That's all.
That's all anybody wants. It's to see them more.
So anytime we have an opportunity for that, I think
it's great. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't realize
that this little segment here had been released, so.
Yeah, so the the there's six workouts they'll do 2A day.
I think it's how they have going to structure it and it's not
like just team every time. So the first one or or one of
them will be all the 16 athletes will do it compete independently
so their own workout with each athlete scoring, you know giving
points to their team, all hands. So everybody, all 8 athletes are
working together, so. Guaranteed we see a slug.
Yeah, some. I mean it would be cool like if
we saw like an eight person worm or something like just
absolutely insane out there spotlight.
So the the captain will nominate 1 male and one female based on
their expertise, featuring a weightlifting gymnastics and a
mono structural test. Heat 1 Prop.
Will Patrick Melner be the captain?
That's kind of the the ringer, right?
He's won a gazillion times. He's.
He is. Captain of everything.
Yeah, if it wasn't for him, it would be Noah if he was still
competing in that capacity, but I don't think they'll put him in
there, but. If oh, I don't know if I should
say this. Never mind.
Don't worry about it. I'll say it.
Do you think if Justin was captain, like Patrick would like
do like a, what's it called A marooning and then like have a
separate team dynamic a? Mutiny A.
Mutiny. Yeah, a mutiny.
I just can't see him. Like listening to what Justin's
telling him to do. I think Pat's A-Team player when
it when it matters the most. You think so?
I would love that if he did that.
Yeah, yeah. And then like, there's like this
weird dynamic where like Justin says something and then Pat's
like, ah, let's. Do this I want it to.
Happen I did win the games. And I want it to happen for
behind the scenes. The behind the scenes content on
this is going to be spectacular if they give us all access,
which it probably won't. But if they did, I mean that
just brings so much interest because we're going to see some
bitchy stuff going on, people getting pissed.
I didn't want to do that workout or.
Well, if it's like if it's like Fitfest, where they.
Well, I mean, if you think about Fitfest, I mean they changed the
workouts. Yeah, everybody got along.
No, we're not going to do that. We don't like that.
That's that's unsafe. This is crazy.
No, you need a little bit of a like, hey, we're all in this
harsh atmosphere like our under these rules that everybody has
to but you can't Like they kind of have to be in like a not
comfortable place for bad for like bad things to happen.
I I think it's going to be a lot more relaxed and like the what I
see in my head is like lights and like there's a lot more
showy aspect to it, not so much what we're used to of like just
hardcore competition. I think what you're going to see
this bitchy stuff is we're going to play this person, not you, on
that workout, right? And then they get mad.
I don't. Know many people like hi, that's
cool. I wanted to rest.
Like I know Pat is always thankful when he doesn't have to
work out. He's like that's cool, I'll let
Jack, I'll let Jack go do that. So I didn't want to spread that
bike like you know what I mean? Like I I I don't know if y'all
saw this but Will brought up like a survivor type deal and I
agree. I think we should find eight
people to sign up and then just put an on house arrest and they
have to live in the house for a month And then there's this Big
Brother cameras everywhere. Yeah, they.
'D just work out next to each. Other, and I mean they would,
they would sign up for it, right?
Like, it's not like against their will I'd be illegal, but
but like like the real world, but CrossFit athletes.
And then they have one gym they can train in.
They got a farm, a barn or whatever.
Rich could literally host this at me.
Oh, it would be. I think it would be great.
Mayhem could do their own think. It'd be real boring for about a
week, but then like you throw in like a girl, an ex-girlfriend or
something somewhere. Ellie comes in.
It'd be good. It'd be good.
It would be real good. Sailor Telf does the public vote
for Captain. I believe so.
I I thought the team picks captain.
No, I think the public is voting for it.
Oh. Yeah, Miami team, teams of
three, CrossFit Games, teams of two and two men, two women and
then captains. So each team will have a male
and female captain who will work together to earn their team will
win. So it's not, you know it's not
gonna be the same thing. It's gonna be different formats
throughout. I hope it's close right?
Like if it started, if it starts to pull away, like that could
get, you know. So hopefully they structure it
so that somebody's in it the whole time and it's not like get
through Sunday and you're like. Right.
I just like it for the betting possibilities on heat one, like
we can set all kinds of prop bets.
All of your prop bets like this is perfect for it.
It's Prop bet Central. Yeah, yeah.
Especially when you get to the individuals and like if the
workouts are like how they how they structure it so that you
compete. Like if it's the President's Cup
in golf, the captains alternate picking.
So United States would be like I'm going to pick Pat Velner and
somebody would pick Ricky on the, you know, go against them.
So like you would pick up the pick the match ups.
So you can kind of have some strategy there of who you want
to compete against too based on the workout, which would be kind
of neat. So yeah, that's coming in
September, the same weekend as the adaptive CrossFit Games, if
anybody cares. But.
Hey, that was mean, man. No, no.
That cares. That like they're together at
the same time thought that nobody cares what they adapt.
That's so mean about tier though.
Hey, we know y'all are doing this, but like, we really want
to do this too, so we're just going to do it.
Actually, they had it lined up before the adaptive game set
theirs up. Oh, well, then that's just not
on the adaptive part like. That was now.
I think they should have worked with Tierrawatapalooza to have
the CrossFit Adaptive Games at at Tierrawatapalooza.
So Cal. Now that would have been great,
but I don't know if they could have made that work, but.
Yeah, 'cause they could have figured that out.
A lot more relaxed atmosphere, I think, than than Miami
Waterapalooza. Miami's pretty relaxed man.
Yeah. Have you ever been?
I lived down there for a while. It's about the least relaxed
I've ever been. I lived, I lived in Naples, FL
for a while. What was that?
There it is. Oh, that's rough.
I don't know. Quad zombie?
Quad zombie. We got a.
This sounds really good. My head's so small.
You know what's bad is like my My upper body kind of looks like
that, but like my hand is not that small.
You look ambiguously black there.
I I feel it too. I do.
It doesn't feel tuned. By this is this Black John Young
this is that's. BJY right now.
It's a mixture of all of his characters.
At least he believes in Jesus. I need to come up with a verse
get better. Like my verse, you don't matter.
Yeah. I only care if you matter.
All with the you know, with the programming.
Nice shirt. So for those who haven't seen
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Nice go Bye do. So go, go do that.
Let's see, John. Still waiting on mine.
I'm really excited about that shirt.
It's a cool shirt. It looks like it has old school
feel. It does.
It's. Where is it?
Here it is. Oh yeah, I got the yellow.
Yeah, I got the yellow as well. Which yellow looks terrible on
me. But I don't know where.
I don't know. I don't know if this is the
yellow or if it's a cream color. I don't know.
Yeah. Regardless, it's it's not the
Gray, but it's it looks good. So go to the OG coach culture on
Instagram I. Wonder if since they're not
selling that one. Or maybe they are, but maybe
they're just not advertising it, but maybe they're not selling
it. And if they're not, maybe you
just have one of the prints that they aren't selling which.
Is one of the kind more. Cool.
Rare. Well, I've got a custom color.
I don't know. Yeah, there it is.
Custom color. Nice.
One-of-a-kind, Yeah, I do. It's like a comfort, that
comfort cotton one. So my wife hates it.
She thinks it looks like it's a shirt from the 80s, but it's the
most comfortable thing out there, so I'm sticking with it.
Last one bent with the boys real quick.
Let's. Did it.
Let's get it. First one gotta get that coin
made. You do you.
Do can you make three of them? Like only three in the world.
Yeah. First, how many people beat
Frazier's Six O 5 on this match? Repeat.
I would do. We have an over under.
We can set the over under at 10 if you want.
I think it's under 10. I I will say I thought that was
aggressive. I thought.
I thought that was. Aggressive.
It's the exact same. Well, when people are going to
get 3 minutes on a Tyler like you would think more than 10
people was, are going to beat it.
Three. Who's saying they're going to
get 3 minutes? Oh, are you out of this?
Of this. I when you all brought this up
earlier, I was like, I have no idea what.
This is DM, me, DM me. Your number, Tyler, I'll tell
you. All right.
No, no. Brian's friend had put 3:50 to
3:00. 20 out there. I'm sure it was talking live and
just kind of not thinking about what that meant.
But if besides the fact that we have data on this fucking
workout, well. Everybody keeps talking about
2016, but 2021 is the best, the best predictor.
Oh, we do have 2021. Yeah, the West Coast Classic did
the repeat. So we do.
That's where Tola beat it. Yeah, I'm going to say under
under 10 now. I'm off the record 7.
I don't. Think it's going to be that
high? You want to put the over under
at 7:00. Yeah, six and a.
Half, Yeah, 6 1/2, I'll say over.
I'll say over all day on that I was going to, I was going to
say. Over on 10, on, over on 10, yes,
I think under. On I I think under.
On you want to put the over under on 10 or 7.
I like 7 better or 6. And 1/2.
I don't know. I mean like I haven't looked at
the 2021 day to how many people have, how many people did it?
Tyler, Tyler I think you should go over under 7 or but exactly 7
should get like four times the amount of play.
Well, Adam texted me like about the about the T like 'cause we
haven't really played with this idea yet about the TA bet.
How many bet, how many events does she win?
12345 or six? Right or over under.
And so it's like I like both. I like the simplicity of the
over under. But if you if we set like 100
points. I think if you do that more, I
think I I like that more because it's more skill involved.
Like if you call it dude, you freaking called it.
You get more point, yeah. But like on this, on this
specific one I think you should set it for seven and then under
750 points, over 750 points 7 exactly 200 points. 2000 points.
You win the whole thing. You win the whole thing.
I'm, I'm gonna say over. I'm looking.
Those guys big because like that's a huge.
Like, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I just think there's enough.
Looking back from eight years ago, there's gotta be enough
guys that can can. That fittest man in the world.
The finished man. In history.
Not 2019, not 2020, Frazier, but 2016, yes.
Doing the discipline that he did 18 years of.
Dear boss, please set the floor up exactly like you did in 2016.
They should. They, I think, yeah, they're not
gonna have that many barbells out there.
They're not gonna have 50 barbells out there on the floor
in Africa, right. You're gonna have one per lane
and just move it and do the exact same thing and load.
Yeah, just like they did in the in regionals, OK.
Hold on. Hold on.
Hold. On ma'am, we used to have a
million barbells. Those were the days, The.
Games does, but not a well, not a not the semifinals or
regionals. Yeah.
Not that many. Next one.
On why John stealing whatever he's doing.
Doing the math on who I think can beat since. 05 Well, also
think about this one then. Event for Daniel, Brandon or the
women's field? Daniel Brandon.
That's the handstand, Walker, man.
Yeah, world worldwide. Yeah.
Does she set the world record? Damn, Brennan.
Who you ask? Me I'm?
Going to go with Daniel, Brandon, that's.
Really. For the women.
For the women, Yeah, only women, OK, Because the man with the
rower and all that stuff it did. Correct.
That's why I'm. Asking unclear.
It's. The Yeah, that's not fair.
Just the women's field. I say Danielle, Brandon, it
don't matter what's in that handstand.
She's she's the last week she's the she wins almost everyone.
I think she only got second to Brooke Wells and 21 semifinal
that had a whole bunch of other stuff in it.
I'm trying to think what the workouts are going into that,
like how she's going to feel and how that could screw up.
The start of their career, yes. So she's already done one and
two it's. The first workout of.
The day though, right? Yeah.
But she's going against everybody else, I think having
being Week 3, being the favorite, yeah, she knows the
time to beat. She knows what she has to do.
I think she walks away with it. Hanson walks away with it.
I've I don't want to say yes, but I'm going to say yes.
I think you're right. Like logically you're right.
I don't know. I'm just being a contrarian, I
guess. Nick Was Hiller's post incorrect
about the weights being He didn't.
He didn't post that he he made a clip making fun of Brian as he
as he does and and then he goes plot twist.
Brian knows the bars are all loaded, and people actually get
that. People wouldn't get that if the
bars were loaded. I'm telling you right now, like.
Even if they, yeah. No, like, I don't.
I still don't think we see some four if the bars were all loaded
for them. No, but a lot of people break 6
minutes. Yeah, yeah, that would change
that For real. But he didn't post that.
He just said that he was just he was just talking.
He doesn't know at all. Yeah, Tyler, did you ever make a
decision? Yeah, I'm gonna go with Daniel,
alright. I I have to fight my contrarian
ass from time to time. And then on go on to Hiller's
most recent video. Gimel Harros.
Danny Spiegel. Will they qualify?
Will one of them qualify? Will neither of them qualify?
Two, one or zero? Right.
And then if it's one, who? Which I'm going with Danny.
Just Danny. Just Danny.
John. He's going with just ski.
Yeah, just just. Ski I'm going with both.
Dub. He's going for the dub one.
For both. That's worth way more points
then are single bets alone. I think, I think people would
expect both of them to make it. I don't know anymore.
I don't think so all. Right.
You laid down for that one real quick.
Yeah. I I think, I think there's
plenty of people that are maybe even just rooting against one or
both of them do. You know, when I, like, feel
like I've lost the argument or like and I didn't even really
feel like I lost the argument. I just didn't feel like arguing.
But. I wish you'd do that with me
something. I'm like that.
Arguing. OK, just go.
All right, That's it. Like I'm done.
That's it. I'm rolled over.
See, It's over. See PC, says Danny Ortega, says
Key. So it's 5050.
I'm going with both of them. Both.
Yeah. Yeah.
Just one. So there you go.
Thoughts on the show. Thoughts on Baz?
Boss is fun. Yeah, boss is always good.
I feel like. I feel like we asked questions
that people wanted to know the answers to.
I don't feel like we shield away from those.
I feel like he answered them as straight up as he could have.
Those times are hard for me because I really want to push
and I don't want to put him in a position to like we're not in
that, you know? I feel like you have to be
sitting in front of him and it has to be a focused thing versus
me ambushing him and being like, hey, why'd you screw all this
shit up? Like, I know the head thing
really happened. I've seen an e-mail where it
happened, but I don't want to. I don't want to fucking push him
on that. Well, the good the question is
like how often? Like, was it?
They said they weren't focusing on that.
That might have been that one athlete's thing and but that's
not what they were focusing on. I did want to ask, do you feel
like some regions got judged harder than other regions,
'cause I would 100% think that happened.
But he said they had different people judging them.
That's what they're rocking with.
Yeah, I mean. Hopefully it was at least fair
across the same region right that's that's the that's the
most you can hope for. I'm gonna end it with this I.
Don't know what this is. What?
That's washed up. I have to have that shirt.
Where do we get this shirt? He's.
Selling it, man. He's going to wear it for semi
finals. Oh my God, I need two of his
shirts because. I would like to, I would like to
clarify. I did not say that this year.
I said that like two years ago. That shit's on his wall.
Oh yeah. Oh my.
God, yeah. Go over to Brandon Luckett.
Hopefully. That thing's for sale, I think.
I said that back when the Dubai was going on, like it wasn't.
It wasn't, but, but but I did say it and I'll back away from
saying it. I did say it and he's proved me
wrong every step of the way and I hope he keeps, I hope he keeps
doing it. With that, we'll see you guys
next week.