Good evening everybody. It is Friday night, a special
edition of the Spin Rundown, and we are joined by Mr. Underdogs
Justin Kotler himself. How are you doing?
Good, man. It's been it's been a tough
week. What's going?
What's been going on? I lost my dad earlier in the
week, man. So yeah, it's been an emotional
week and didn't know if I was going to be able to get out
here, but my dad was pretty competitive dude.
I think he would have wanted me to be here.
And honestly it's a little different for me this weekend.
Just come in and you know it helps you put things in
perspective. So you know, for me it's just
come and have fun and be in the community.
So many people have have just you know I I've been able to
lean on so many people and so many people here you know so
concerned about about me and so it's it's been great and and the
athletes know like I didn't know if I was going to get here so
they're you know just excited for me to be here so it's a
little bit more like therapy for me this weekend than than you
know my normal crazy so yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
And you have Lauren Fisher, who lost her mom a couple weeks ago
and so you've seen, definitely seen the community support and
rally around her. So I'm glad to hear that that
they're doing the same for you. And so I I wanted to get you on
because you, you know, coaching Ricky Gerard, coaching Alex
Kazan, Bailey Martin. Am I missing anybody?
Well, Bailey, yeah, Bailey and Kyrie are here.
They're they're both. They're both coached by Bailey
and Kyra are a boat coached by Kiefer.
And then I I coach obviously Ricky and and and Alex and and
you know, but they're all, you know, underdogs.
Part of it's family. So yeah we have 4 athletes this
weekend. It's amazing.
It's incredibly exciting and boy and boy it just ran the gamut of
emotions today. Jeez, you know obviously
everybody crushed the first one and then just, you know, should
have. It's it's crazy, you know to.
It was not an accurate representation of what they
could do, especially Alex and Ricky.
Making made made some equipment errors and couldn't hold on to
the bar because of how wet it was and Ricky picked the wrong
grips and then his hands look like hamburger now sounds.
Like a lot of people had. Yeah, after round one he
couldn't hold on me. He was just, you know, I mean,
he came off and there's blood coming down and.
And Alex, she she made tape grips and they ripped on the
1st, the first half a round and then she was like, oh, she could
hold on. I mean they're both, yeah, it's
easy to say that everybody had to deal with it, but they're
they're both exceptional at multiple bars, so that that's
very frustrating. They're both extremely pissed
off right now. So I had seen that and I had
thought just seeing it that, you know, there'd be kind of a
smooth grip or like the the standard pull up bar, but it
sounds like they had some neural on it.
Was that is that correct? I you know what I mean.
I so I heard a bunch of things. It seemed like if you wore like
kind of old fashioned leather grips, but that was pretty good.
But if there were a lot of people that were wearing like
the rubber or the tactical and if you wore that, you slipped
right off because everything was so wet And some people had tape
grips on, but most of those people's hands ripped up or they
ripped off and you know, it just, it's unfortunate, you know
that event to me, I would love to see dry and I'd love to see
what people would do, but it is what it is.
Everybody's got to deal with adversity and the rain and you
know at the end of the day you know some people did well, some
people didn't and and you know same thing on the earlier one
with the log, you know bar and etcetera.
So the good news is that you know, the two of them, you know
because of the win earlier today, you know they're still in
striking distance with a lot of events that they like coming
next. And you know, so I think they
can, they can, you know that I I think that they still can
achieve goals for the weekend. They just they just made it a
little more difficult. For you guys, was Kyra in lane
10 on the pull up from the last workout?
Yeah, if Lane 10 was close to the to the third base, yeah,
yes. So I've if you look at the the
results, Emily Roll finished last, Laserjukas finished last
in his heat, and Garrett Clark finished last and then Kyra
finished 15th. All of them were in that lane.
And So what I'm I was talking to Lazar about it and he said that
he would just be going and all of a sudden he'd touch a bar and
he'd just slip off like it was. He felt like it was used like
they were maybe used like some of the the bars were used or
something like that. It definitely sounds like I mean
he's convinced that it was something was up with it but and
and when you have three people who finished last in their heat.
I don't know where Tara finished in her heat, but she was
definitely down, you know, 15th and.
I I wish that they I wish that we had seen that event, you
know, without rain and I was honestly really worried about
people's footing. You know I was concerned that
people doing push jerks would slide because of how wet the
grass was. And I, you know, obviously you
you worry about a knee injury you're worried about a leg
injury, a lower leg injury etcetera.
But everybody had to deal with the with the, you know, with the
weather and Mother Nature and if you made the wrong decision
about grips, you were fucked. I mean that was, you know Ricky
will tell you he's pissed off beyond belief.
Like he he just stormed out of there because he expected to win
that work out. And once once he started, he
fell off, threw his grips away and then by the end of round one
he had hamburger hands and that just blood the whole rest of the
way. So what happens though man, you
got to you got to figure it out, you know and 600 points still
out there. You know he's going to need some
help. He's going to need some guys to
fuck up a little bit and and have have a a tough go.
You know the cool thing about Rogue is there's some weird
implementations every day. So that can happen.
You know you can win one and the next thing you know you come in
16th and it can humble you, you know.
So you know tomorrow be interesting to see how people do
with the dual. It'll be interesting to see how
people respond to using the different type of a bar for a
deadlift, so I'm I'm curious to see.
What? What bar is it?
It's called aggro. Is that what they said?
I don't know. I haven't heard.
Thank you. Yeah, I I can hear you.
I was just looking to talk. How you doing bro?
I'm doing good. How are you?
Goodman, So an aggro bar A. Tough week.
I lost my dad earlier in the week, so it's pretty tough.
That's all right. I'm here.
The. Aggro bar is breaking news
caller. Nobody knew that.
Yeah. Maybe I wasn't supposed to say
anything. Hey, if the athletes know, then
it's. Fine.
Yeah. Athletes.
Know isn't a brief. As long as they know then it's
fair, fair game. So interesting.
I'll have to take a look at that.
Ricky, earlier today the squats looked strong.
What has he been doing the last since we saw him Last on the
squats? Squats like, what's funny though
when he got done running yesterday, he was like, coach,
you can't run. I haven't.
I said don't worry about that, that that ain't a problem.
We can. We can fix that quick and it
even if they can't run, he was only 42 seconds off of 1st.
Like that's no fucking deal. The guy, the guy ran what, 17535
K during the games. And so yeah, we've had him on a,
we've had him on a really. Him and Alex, actually, both on
a really nasty squat cycle and obviously paying off.
I mean, you saw them. They their squats look great.
I mean, Alex, that, that, that way.
It's a joke for her. It's funny to me that people are
just like, oh, I'm surprised and I would just squat like
everybody. Here's the deal about Alex, OK,
here's the deal. Other than her struggling with
the snatch, she's strongest girl, one of the top three
strongest girls in the field. In every other lift she clean
and jerks 265. She deadlifts 425.
She back squats 340. She bench presses 270.
She front squats 300. She she she strict presses 175
which is probably 25 to 30 lbs clear of anyone.
Else. She's a freak, but I just keep
laughing at people that are like, I'm surprised.
The squat looked What? She's a beast.
Listen. I was yelling that on the seven.
I heard you. I heard you.
I know I heard you. And yeah, you know.
And the great thing is about her though she's, she's 22 and we're
working hard on the snatch. She's been working with Will
Fleming. You know who's who's come on and
start working with underdogs and he's an incredible weightlifting
coach you know 1K obviously he coaches the Super heavyweight
that just won the Pan American games.
Mary Thiessen believe her last name is and and and Will's been
working with us and you know so we are we we will you know fix
the snatch I'm I'm not worried about that and then when we do I
mean like I've like I've said in the past for her you know she's
I mean the potential is limitless you know at 22 with
all the things she can do body weight wise and you know we're
working hard on the on running and and even the running is is
improving even yesterday she came off she was like I was way
too conservative I felt great like I came off it's like I felt
great I could have pushed harder but it's great for me to know
that and you know we'll go back to the to the drawing board a
little bit with with Henshaw on that stuff and then obviously
with Ricky you know we'll implement the the running back
in after we get you know three to four months of of just trying
to feed the legs and then you know once we get into season
we'll try to maintain those games and then and then bring
back the the running you know get him back down I mean he's a
452 mile or get him back down under.
Under my you know under that and ready to ready to dance with the
big boys when it when it matters.
But I know both of them are super pissed off tonight I I you
know I was with Ricky for a little while and and then
obviously Alex I drove her home and you know there was listen
when you make an equipment error that's on you you know that's
that's on you and I I mean you know what's Ricky tested it on
on a dry pull up bar back in WARMUPS right and then they
start walking out and it started raining and the grips that he
used were were off for that and he threw them off and then once
he went to bare Hands he just tore right away and he had you
know and then if you watch him he struggled massively and and
Alex couldn't hold on to the bar she she decided not to go with
grips she went with tape grips they ripped on I think the third
monkey bar and then she was bare hands the rest of the way and
she said it was basically just like felt like glass so you know
shit happens the deal you got to deal with it you know there's
six there's six events left so now it's you put your big boy
and girl pants on you come back tomorrow and you use it as
motivation you know because I know both of them are like
that's that's not an accurate representation but here's the
deal everybody had to deal with the adversity and some people
dealt with it better and you got to you got to take it like a
like a man and like a woman and and come back and and show your
shit the next day you know that's the way it works Yeah,
what are what are you looking forward to most tomorrow for for
Ricky and Alex? If you're going to say what,
what event? They're both really good
athletes, so the dual should be really fun.
You guys know what the dual is yet?
We don't. Let's let's hear it.
I have, I do. You are, you know.
I do. I don't know if I'm allowed to
say these things. Am I allowed to say these
things? If the athletes.
Know if the athletes know, I think you're allowed.
That's right. It's like like a little obstacle
Corsi with rope climb and some sand.
Max, I'll go there. I won't go with, like, exactly
what it is, but you got it. You got to be an athlete.
You got to go over a log, and under the log you got to run.
You got to do it. It's not, it's not legless
regular rope. I think there's maybe two of
them or something like that. And then you got to pick up some
sandbags and put them on a pedestal or put them into a a a
bin. I don't know exactly.
It's racist. So, very fast, do a couple rope
climbs, go open over some logs and then finish with some
sandbags. Can you move fast?
You be an athlete. You know what I mean?
And and and I would, you know, they're both athletes so I would
think they would do really, really well.
If Bailey's a really good athlete, I think he'll do well.
He'll give Kyra's very fast twitch.
I think she'll do well. But you know, I I think
specifically, obviously, I mean I I personally coach Ricky and
Alex and I I feel really good. I feel really good about first
one. I mean, muscle UPS, Tipping
handstand push ups. Really.
And then, yeah, wow. I'm.
Really. I'm surprised.
Me too. I was very surprised.
I thought it was going to be strict.
I really thought it was going to be strict wall facing because I
mean 80 would catch up after ring muscle UPS, you know?
But this will just be faster and your heart rate will get up and
it's going to be very interesting to see people who go
out like a bat out of hell. That's a lot of work 40 muscle
ups 80 handstand push ups and 120 snatches.
I mean I that's a lot of work and if you go out super hot you
might limp in. So I I I'm curious to see how
people go. I'm happy they're both in heat
too smart because we'll learn some things obviously and and
people tend to make mistakes and and we'll go from there.
So I I think honestly, you know if we're, if we're saying like I
would expect Ricky to come out like mongrel style on those
first two workouts, you know he is not, he'll be first to me.
He's not a great dead lifter. You know, relative to the field.
I don't know. You know, I would.
I would think a lot of people are going to be kind of in like
maybe 5:15 to 5:50-ish and then you'll have a couple outliers
that are that are plus that you know, you'll have your Vellner,
I know can pull close to six and Chandler can pull close to 6.
It also depends on how people's bodies are feeling.
It also depends on how they react, you know, to the to the
to the bar, you know, but but I think Ricky's, Ricky's that's
more of a damage control workout for Ricky.
I think it'd probably be middle pack.
But I think he's looking at the first two as like he's licking
his job. He's got to get his, he's got to
get 2, two top threes on those first two to be where he wants
to be because I mean you know, Ricky coming this weekend wasn't
looking at anything but a podium, you know, and and
really, you know, I mean he was thinking he's going to win, you
know, so the that that that that finish tonight is, is tough.
It's it's tough to come back from a 19th and they need some
help. But Alex on a deadlift, I mean
that'll be fun to watch. I think it'd.
Be fun to watch the battle because I I know Alex's deadlift
is good. There's like 5 girls.
The five girls are probably 400 plus.
Yeah, I mean, but I don't think we've ever had that in a
competition. There's always.
Been there's always been one. And then and then, you know,
that girl usually wins. Maybe there's two.
What what's the format for that? Have they announced like?
Because ladder style, I think for women it starts at three O 5
and just goes up. And then I think actually the
last bar is like like on the ladder is like 395.
And then they and then they go up, whoever's remaining, they go
up by fives, they go up five. I'm not sure.
On the men, I'm not sure. I'm happy that they're doing it
that. Way.
But yeah, I think that's cool. You know, it's fine.
It'll be more exciting for the fans, you know, That's always a
fun way to do it. But yeah, I mean, fuck, we got
what? Coleen Brander, I know, pulls
400. Laura.
Yeah and Laura. James.
Yeah, Alex, Karen Friova has done 4/22.
Yeah, yeah. That's gonna be a really good
one. I mean, I've never let Alex Max
out, so it's gonna be interesting to see you.
Tomorrow's the day. She had a triple at 385 pretty
easily, not too long ago. So I would, I would think, I
would think we've been working off of like 4/10, 4:15, but I
honestly think if in an in an environment like that tomorrow
she she'll she'll probably pull heavier than that.
Yeah. So yeah I'm just hoping Ricky's
hands are all right. That's that's the biggest
concern. Obviously, you know, we got a
muscle workout and and that type of stuff, rope climbs and
whatnot, but you know, he'll doctor up tonight and you know,
she'll be all right. They allow straps on the
deadlift. Is that allowed?
Haven't heard like or wrist wraps.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what and I I.
I doubt it that that would be a first, I think.
But the aggro bar that knurling is It's rough, more gnarly than
a regular. BAR I wonder if you could do
like like they did tonight with the tape, like the tape, you
know, and and and just and just make some some you know some
tape grips, you know. But we'll see.
We'll see how the hands feel and look tomorrow, unless I think a
lot of people are going to be a similar, I I know a lot of
people are ripped. So it's going to be similar for
a lot of people. But yeah, honestly, man, it's
it's it's funny, 'cause I was, you know, I was saying earlier
today, I was like just happy to be here.
And you know, it's been a rough week and I'm not going to be my
normal, crazy self. And then after tonight's event,
I'm fucking pissed off. I was like, you know, I'm now
I'm mad. Now I'm like, all right, I let
it get to me and now I'm fired up.
We got to come out tomorrow and do some damage, so.
Yeah, well man, I appreciate you jumping on.
Good luck to to your underdogs athletes.
And yeah, it's like Tommy Payne says, I love watching underdog
athletes. So get some rest and get ready.
You have a long day ahead of tomorrow, so.
I will appreciate it. Appreciate it.
Yeah, always a pleasure. Bye guys.
How's it going, John? It's.
Good man. I just got to the hotel, so.
What? What time did you get into the
A? Long day.
That rain delay, like, killed a lot of.
Time. Yeah.
What time would you get into Austin?
I got 10/10/15 10:20. OK, And what was the what was
the atmosphere like? I just a lot of just happy to be
here type atmosphere just everybody meeting everybody it I
I don't know like as far as the athletes go they everybody seems
really good I I don't know if you saw the Roman Jeff Adler,
FISPA. I did around.
The world that was that was you know we're all buddy, buddy.
You know, it's something funny I.
When Tia thoroughly dominated everybody in the first event, I
don't know if you saw that, but I did.
She thoroughly dominated and I I'm happy.
I'm happy that she did that now, seeing as how it's panned out, I
just wanted to battle. I just didn't want her to
dominate everything. And so now that she's not I, I
if she wins, that's that's great.
I'm happy for her. If she loses, then that's
awesome. Tia didn't win something for
once, but I just didn't want her to dominate.
I wanted to battle, but after she did the run and killed
everybody, there was. I don't know how to explain it.
The environment was like why? Like like how or how how Like
what the freak is happening like and then she would go and just
say hey great job girl like you're you're doing so good
right to she did that she had to everybody that came through and
you know it was funny. Is Laura kind of like when Laura
did really good for herself on the run, Really good.
Like that's probably her best run finish she's ever had suited
for her, but still. And Laura kind of was like and
like went off and like went and hugged Gabby after.
It was just very subtle, but it was very interesting.
But but then the second event happened, TA was human and now
all is right in the world. I think it's going to be a
really fun battle to watch the whole time.
Yeah, let's let's go into the men's.
We'll do some, do some recapping.
We'll take a look here at the at the leaderboard.
Let me pull up my screen and take a look at that.
All right. Men's leaderboard.
Roman Krenikoff. Yeah, they're in first place,
man. We called it too.
I know we were getting some some guff on the 1st event, which I
think definitely turned out different, but day two is
looking a little bit, a little bit more like our predictions,
our event predictions. Yeah, I mean I listen.
Roman and Laura murdering this event I thought was the most
given, like this event in particular, I know on the Seven
podcast like Taylor and Jr. were like talking with the monkey
bars or like how the shoulder overheads going to play a a
role. And I was just thinking guys
like this is just who skis the facts, that's it.
And I really feel like that's how it was.
Maybe not for the women, the women, the monkey bars played a
huge, I thought a a much greater role.
But for the minute, that's that's how it appeared.
As far as the top guys go, like your order of one through 5,
that's how it appeared. Yeah, well I don't think you you
you jumped on. But I was talking to Lazar
before he before he jumped on the show and of the four heats
last place in each heat was in lane 10.
Lazer, Garrett Clark and Emily Rolfe.
And then Kyra Milligan was also there.
She finished 15th overall. Lazer is saying that the the bar
he like be doing well and he hit a bar and he just like slip off
like there was knurling on it. I don't know if, how, how.
OK bro, Like, I mean, three of those people were going to do
bad anyway. Yeah, I I don't know.
I mean, it's definitely, I don't think it's a late 8 situation,
but it is something to think about with how different they
were. But it's also just four, a
sample size of four but. I and and I think you could put
three of the four of those people on any of the lanes.
No offense to those people, they weren't going to do very well.
Yeah, so I I did a. Lot Garrett Clark's hands were
ripped the shreds before he even got there.
Yeah yeah, it sounds like a lot where and I mean I did a workout
today on from Josh Bridges programming.
It started out with 100 calorie ski and then it went into a
whole bunch of rounds and it and it was strict pull ups after
that and I went from the ski feeling pretty good.
I went to do my first strict pull up.
I was like, give me a minute like and so like.
Grip. Just just the lats.
Like it was like, oh, give me, give me a minute.
And then, you know, I started after a couple rounds, I started
getting into it. You don't have that here.
Like you have 3 rounds of of monkey bars and you're pulling
hard on that ski three times, right?
And so if you're not the best skier and you're not best in
machines and it and those weren't the best athletes at the
machines, yeah, I mean, look at you definitely can 4.
Guys, yeah, it's Roman, Brent, Pat and Jason.
OK, So the only guy that's not there is Dallin.
And Dallin was doing great. Until he just kind of.
On the monkey box. But like, the top four guys are
four of the five best skiers in the field, if you like, if you
really want to boil it down to who you know what I'm saying.
And then, so if that is the truth, if that means the top
guy, like if it's a ski workout, the best guys at the skier were
the were the winners of the workout, then that means what
People who don't ski very well probably aren't going to be
very. High, right?
Yep. Like 100% and you listen to
Roman and Roman Roman's saying you're.
Really gonna ain't skiing very well.
I'm sorry, Kira. You're just not.
I know you know that about yourself.
It's all squat. You can squat.
All that squat. Yeah, you murdered that one.
But you know that's the truth, right?
Yeah, so. I mean, when Roman says he was
resting on the ski and still crushing everybody, you know, it
definitely came down to that nice.
Cool. Cruisy 1700 out an hour face,
yeah. Jeff Adler, 20 points back, tied
with Pat Velner for second. Chandler Smith and 4th Brent
Fukowski. 5th yellow Hoste hanging in there in 6th.
Ricky Man that 18th place. Like like Kotler was saying it.
It definitely hurt big time. Yeah, when you think about
Ricky, can he get it back on the podium or, I mean, it's only,
what, 45? Points.
Can you divvy it up as the OK? Yeah, so he's down.
What? He's down 45 from the podium
right now. Easy I think.
I think after. So this ring muscle up workout
like let's say that's the first workout tomorrow, right?
Yes. Let's say he gets third in that
workout. OK.
I think that he will make significant ground.
BKGI think. No, I don't think it'll make.
I think BKG will do really good well at that workout.
I think Noah will do really good at that workout.
But yellow hosta Fakowski. And.
Probably Chandler Smith. I bet he can make up 20 points
on all three of those names. Now you are tied.
You're essentially tied, right? You're 200 to 2:15 if you just
added twenty points. So then you're you're you're 5th
10 points from 3rd the whole rest of the competition.
Right. I I I.
Think it's not it's it's not even close to being done for
podium. I think for sure he can podium,
especially the other ones, the top three too if the duels the
top also a top three which I think is really hard to like.
I don't think you can assume that because anything with
elimination you know you just mess up or make a mistake and
it's so it's you know you're done right.
So that's always hard. But if he, you know, say he
comes top five in both of those events, I think he's, you know,
if you come top five in those events, you're probably almost
at the podium already. Yeah, yeah, My, my guess is he's
probably going to do well the first two events and then he's
get to the deadlift and he's going to slide back down because
Chandler will make up ground. Yeah, I could see him.
Jumping Chandler and then Chandler jumping him in the
deadlift, just because, I mean, that's going to be a big a big
thing. And then and then you got two
events after that. Yeah, yeah, two events now to.
Podium. That's hard cuz Like, we're
talking podium and we're talking about the guys ahead of him.
And they're not. They're.
Gonna have great deadlifts. Yeah, well.
That's not even that like. These are three of the four.
Fittest men in the world on top? Yes, on top.
Of that, yes. You see what I'm saying?
Like like. I think Ricky will just
outperform everybody in front of him.
I think he's fitter than everybody in front of him.
I think he's probably fitter like I, you know, it's hard.
I think him, Jeff and Roman are the three fittest guys in the
world. And yes, I think they're fitter
than Belner. I think this competition suits
Belner so good, right. And Belner's 4th and like like
as far as like who I think like the fittest people between them
three. It's literally like kind of luck
at the programming, at the games.
I really, really believe that. But to so to jump, to jump into
the podium, it's going to be really hard, like like like,
Kotler said. Like one of those three guys is
going to have to F up in a big way, but Roman's going to get
hurt in that first event tomorrow.
I know Kotler's wishing it was strict handstand push ups.
So we get hurt a little more, Yeah, but I don't know if
strict. Handstand push ups is for Ricky
either. I think it's better for Ricky to
be, yeah, fair. Here's the thing.
It's not. About what's hard for Ricky.
It's about what you need Roman to be bad, yeah?
Like like. If Ricky gets 3rd but Roman gets
10th, like that's a better that's a bigger win than Ricky
winning and Roman getting 3rd, right?
Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely.
Oh yeah, you need you need people in between, you need
someone one. Of some of those top three, you
need somebody to be really bad at something.
It doesn't matter how good you are, you need them to be really
bad something, right? Yeah.
Working our way down BKG and 8th, Hopper rebounds up into the
10th place. Travis Mayer.
Crazy jump Crazy. Jump right.
He was like 17th or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, I. Mean that that again, that's
what one I mean one great workout and you just jump right
back up there. Our bet with Travis Mayer inside
the top ten he's giving us. He's right there on the cut
line, so oh, he'll be fine. He's.
Going to pull heavy, He will pull heavy.
He will. We'll we'll see how he does on
the strict handstand push ups on the on the handstand push ups.
I don't think there's too many surprises here.
Lazer, he is, he is behind BKG and he's well behind Chandler
Smith for that one. So I'm not going to go down the
line about. My bets I I let's I think you
feel go. Ahead.
I think you can feel pretty. Safe about at least one of those
bets right now, I I'm. Not gonna.
We can talk about that when the competition's over, you know
what I mean? And like when we recap and we
see how truly terrible Tyler's picks were.
But, like, Lazar could win the event tomorrow.
He could win that muscle. Up handstand, push up event and
then right back into the He's round 10th place.
Yeah, you know what I mean. BK GS.
Like 8th right now. Like it's not, you know, if
there's a whole competition left.
Like it's not done or anything. He is doing worse than I thought
he would do. I thought he would be better
than where he is at right now, but again, he's got some good
workouts coming his way. I think he'll probably be good
at the duel too, from what Cutler said.
Alan Pepper is probably the biggest surprise.
Yeah. Did you notice anything from him
while you're actually I mean because it, you know the
coverage is is good on the on the mainstream and you get some
more wide angle stuff but really haven't focused too much on
Dallin because he's been near the bottom.
Have you seen anything in person?
No. So look he.
Was murdering the ski workout. He was right there with all the
top dogs that you see a top four.
And then it just, I mean he just started coming down in the
monkey bars. And like the monkey bars, the
monkey bars were like, not a big deal unless they were and then
they were a really big deal. Like it was like it's the end of
your work and and that's really. I don't know what else to make.
Of it other than like I got, you know, if his hands were ripped
really bad. That could.
Cause that, but he was doing really good and then he wasn't
like the monkey. He started failing on the monkey
bars and then it just, it takes so long to do those when you had
to come down every two or three rungs, yeah.
Were you surprised about the second workout with the squats?
He's not. The best squatter?
Yeah. The squats are hard and then
it's log muscle UPS. I just don't, you know, was any
big guy good at that? No, actually, that's what I'm
saying like. I don't.
I don't expect, like the big
guys were not good at that. I didn't expect the big guys to
be good at that. I knew Hopper was really bad at
that last year. Yeah, Hopper was bad.
Tutor think. I mean, Brent Fukowski, who is
the king of execution, the king of optimizing his ability was
15th. So like it's not a big guy
workout. On top of that, he does not the
best squatter. So like, it's not.
I mean I almost that's what I expect for Dallin in that
workout. Really.
I mean, when you look at Brent again, I'm going to keep using
Brent because I know Brent's like, the guy who doesn't make
mistakes. I did expect Dallin to crush
this one. And I the monkey bars.
It would not surprise me if he ripped his hands hard.
And like, there's nothing you can say when that happens,
right? Right.
It's. But I don't know.
I don't know if he's got ripped hands or not.
I just knew the monkey bars caught up with him.
He was killing it until. Until he wasn't.
Yeah. And it's been covered before.
Several times. But Yonkowski is he.
He rolled his ankle yesterday on the run, thought he could come
back, but woke up this morning with it swollen.
So that that is why he was out. It was not a cramp.
It was a twisted ankle, a sprained ankle.
And so he is, he is out of the competition.
Let's. Go ahead and.
Take a look at the women's. Women's leaderboard.
We have a race, a very good race.
Yeah, I know. I tell you what, the Kia
freaking clutched this second place.
If you watched the first round, and I don't know, I could.
I did. Wasn't watching the live stream,
so I don't know what it was like.
She pasted it, man. I don't think she pasted it
beautifully. I don't think so.
Would she? Just go out too slow or what?
No, no. She just she couldn't do the
monkey bars. Oh really?
So like she might have been. Pacing the ski for sure.
Maybe. But like she came off about with
everybody, Like like Laura came off 1st and then there was Emma
Carey and then and then and then there was kind of everybody came
off the same time on the 1st. The first ski Tia was with
everybody and then when they went on the monkey bars, she
could not control like her body from swinging.
And she was having a really hard time doing the monkey bars.
And like, it would have to like stop herself and then and then
Rigo and stop herself and Rigo and she was behind everybody
because of that first monkey bars.
And then on the second round, 7th in the heat, she was 7 out
of 10 people. And then in the second round, I
don't know if she just figured it out and was like, I uh oh, I
found out how to do monkey bars. Y'all are in trouble now, right?
And she like caught up all the way to the leaders other than
Laura. It was like Laura and then like
a tier of three-year old. Yeah, she was fourth.
Yeah, she was 4th going to the to the final round.
She was behind Ariel and Emma Carey, I think it was, yeah.
But she had got. To that ski like within 5
seconds of them and then yeah, she.
Passed. She passed Ariel on the ski and
then passed Emma on the Emma. Emma's a mad.
Freaking crazy at machines, right?
So like, she she couldn't pass Emma on the machines.
But then the monkey bar, she just kind of went past everybody
and they and so like, I don't know about Emma.
I don't know about Ariel, so I really, I'm not going to speak
on the Rift hand issue. Some of the girls, I think we're
just coming down because they had to come down.
But that last one, Tia wasn't moving fast.
She was just one by 1 by 1 by 1 and like never came down.
And the other two girls did come down.
And So what looked like it was going to be a bad event for Tia
and a home run for Laura, like where I thought it was good,
like it could have swayed really hard.
And then and then turned into Tia's second place.
Kind of like when Matt Fraser was real mad when he won by a
minute and he only got 2 points, right?
And that's what it felt like because she was so behind.
And then Oh no, she's 2nd place. So that's five points that
that's one where we. Look, we look back at the end of
this weekend and say if she ends up winning, that was probably
it, right? Figuring out 'cause she could
have easily lost 50 points there.
I don't know if we're going to say that today.
I think it's just being a part of a a part of being a champion.
Like, yeah, I think. She's the best Crossfitter.
Ever. You.
You.
Don't get to the best crossfitter ever without
figuring out how to do stuff on the fly.
Fair. Fair.
Trouble within the first round? Figured it out.
If she hadn't figured it out, she was toast.
Yeah, but A7? Times game or six times games
champion that's who figures that out.
It's like a rookie that makes that can't figure it out right.
Like I I would almost expect her to figure it out.
I just didn't think she would be passing up everybody.
I know I and and pacing probably had a role to play with it but
I'm telling you it was she was just struggling with the monkey
bars. Yeah, I didn't realize that she
I. Didn't realize that she was
struggling on the monkey bars that first round anyway.
I just knew that she was way behind.
I will. Say there's a thick gap between
second and third. Yeah, like, you know, Emma,
they're one. 2. Yeah.
And it didn't look like, like, like I'm telling you, Emma
Lawson was one of those girls that was ahead of her and really
struggled on the last round of the monkey bars.
I kind of kind of let it down. It's like she this could have
been like a third place for Emma Lawson and 8th place for Tia,
which would have made Emma like second and then it turned into
Emma. Can't handle or.
Blowing up on the monkey bars and Tia came through.
Super clutch. And then now there's this thick
point lead. Yeah, you have Gabby.
Magala sitting there in 3rd, right behind him with Emma
Lawson. And then there's another kind of
gap between Emma Carey, Alex Kazan, Lauren Fisher.
She's doing well. Lauren Fisher is doing.
Amazing, because nobody thought she would be in the running at
all. Yeah, yeah, I mean.
We talk about Kotler losing his dad really well, You got to
imagine Lauren Lauren's last couple weeks has been very, very
tough. I mean that's one reason I've
kind of put her down as you know, as far as I did in my
predictions is like it's got to be tough, right?
Last two weeks. I can't imagine how much fitness
you're getting in or where your mindset is coming into it.
But she's, she's showing that she's competing really well.
It's good to see Paige Semenza, Christine Cohen Brander.
What was Bethany Flores doing this early this afternoon on the
squats? She hasn't squatted over 200 and
well, yeah, I knew. I knew.
She wouldn't the the the weight was too much for her, but like
she had stripped the weight down and was doing like squats with
135 on. Like, do you know?
Oh, she's just putting. On a show man getting to get a
good squat session in I thought. That was kind of.
Strange Danielle Brandon in 10th.
Danny Spiegel moves up from last into 12th with her third place
finish. Ariel Lowen?
She's going. To get to last place again
before the deadlift. And did she?
The she was right back. Up Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.
Yeah, going down the list. Emery, Emily.
Rolfe down in 17th, Karen Freova in 19th.
When you look at this, who are you most surprised by?
Either way, top you know way down from.
Karen Freyova. And Brian his, his friend is
very high on Karen Freyova too. Like this girl.
I don't know what to make of her because like she is super fit.
She's so much fitter than she shows in these big competitions.
It's like once she gets to the show, it's like she can't do it
anymore. I mean she was so much better at
the games and she is showing here like these the.
So I would say it's a. These girls right here. 16th
through 20th. I know Emily Rolfe is in there
too, but like, they are nowhere close to the caliber of women.
At the games where Karen Friova was, Emily Rolfe is.
But Emily, I don't expect Emily Rolfe to do well because it's
Rogue. I think that's the programming.
Karen Friova I would expect to do well because it's Rogue.
She's really, really strong. Like look at Christine.
Colin Brander, Christine. Colin Brander is doing great.
And Karen Friova I would put her in that category and she's just
not like I don't and but she and it's not like it's not like the
first time Karen Friova has let down a lot like in big
competitions and and I don't know why because she's so much
fitter than what she's been what she puts forth in the in thus
far Emily I'm not I thought she would be a little bit better
than she is but I mean I'm not super surprised she should have
a. Better first and 2nd event
tomorrow. Hopefully she should.
I do think deadlift will hurt again, but there.
But The thing is, there's quite a few that are going to have a
really bad deadlift like we just talked about.
Like what? Six women are over 400 lbs And
then you probably have some. It's going to be a battle.
On both sides, yeah. I like, I'm so excited.
Like I'm going to be excited just to see who's the weakest.
Weakest because it's it's you're so true.
Like, so, right. Like we have 5 women, like three
or five. Four to five women at least.
Yeah. Who are?
Really. Really.
Bad at deadlift compared to the field.
Oh yeah, yeah. And then you have.
Four or five women who are otherworldly good at deadlift
compared to the field. And so it's just it's going to
be fun either way. Yeah, on.
The men's side any any surprises before we move on to tomorrow
and we're looking ahead can? You go to the men.
Yep. Maybe a yellow hoster?
Has been killing it. I did not think he'd be killing
it. As good as he is, but like, I
mean, he freaking is. We talk.
We talk about him. Being the same as Brent, and
they're within 10 points of each other that are not the same.
Though they are the same, they are.
They are similar bodies, same same home run ability.
Then they approach the. Workouts the same, too.
Yeah, Yell is not Brent. Though not yet.
Not. Yet they're not even 10 points
worth though. Like, you know like it's we'll.
We'll see. He's out doing what?
He is right now, which I'm. I'm happy for him.
Yeah. Keep going.
Down. Down.
Down is the obvious one, right? But he's on his way.
Up like I went so like if you go scroll up a little bit.
OK, so. I mean there's a pretty big jump
to 3rd it it is a good. But all it takes is 1.
Good workout tomorrow but I'm not sure.
I don't think tomorrow lines up that well for him.
No, it lines up. Well, for the three guys
immediately in front of him, right, At least the first
workout and even Jay and. Jay Crouch, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all four guys. And Bailey Martin's good at.
Gymnastics, He'll probably do well on the handstand.
Push ups. So even if Dallan does well,
later I mean. Yeah, No.
I know. I don't know what.
I don't know what to tell you. Dallan's probably the biggest,
but I do think the 16th, the two sixteenths were are going to be
his worst workouts of the weekend.
I can't. I don't know how everybody else
is going to do in the duel, but I know Dallas is going to pull
heavy. He should be good in the
chipper. He should be good in the big
cat. I think he'll have no problem
jumping. I think his worst days are
behind him. How far he climbs, I don't know.
I think it'll be easier for Ricky to podium than for Dallan
to get. I don't know.
Top 7. Yeah, I don't.
I don't think Dallan. Gets top ten.
At this point, I think he'd get top. 10 they're they're looking
at, looking at. Tomorrow, looking at tomorrow.
I mean, I don't think he's he's gonna fall behind on the 1st on
the ring muscle up next day. Yeah, but if you can't.
You can't give up that many more points if he falls behind him, I
mean. If they start creating more.
Separation. He's got to have a great last
day. That's.
True. So all right, let's take a look.
At tomorrow. So the schedule for tomorrow, we
start off in the morning. It's an early early start, 1055
tenth inning, the 10 rounds of four ring muscle UPS, 8
handstand push ups and 12 power snatch. 2:00 PM the dual 3 which
Justin shared. It is a combination of rope
climbs and a short obstacle course and then sandbags to a
pedestal and then wraps up tomorrow night with a Max
deadlift with an aggro bar which has some aggressive, aggressive
knurling on there. Should be able to pull more.
Though with it, yeah. There is there is the aggro bar.
I don't know which one they have, the 2X or the 3X, but
yeah, they'll have. They'll have good grip as long
as it's not tearing into their torn skin from the monkey bars
already, but so it's a regular deadlift.
Nothing crazy but. We'll see how that works.
Who? Who do you see?
Making the biggest move tomorrow on the men's side.
Can you go back to the events? Let me think about it.
Yeah, you're good. You're good.
Right there. Right there.
I. Don't know guys or.
Girls, your choice. We'll.
Start with guys since we started with them, OK?
So the people that I think this stacks up the best for are I
don't know if they'll be the biggest movers per Southeast.
I think Lazar has a shot honestly to be the biggest
mover, like place for place because there's two events good
for him, one event bad for him. I think.
I think Velner is that's. What?
That's exactly who came to my mind, because I he's usually
pretty good at. The obstacle stuff, yeah.
The he. Get It's 8 kipping handstand
push ups which makes me think he's going to have this like
like much better. Like that's that's much better
for him. He might even be my pick to win
that event honestly. And then the Max deadlift, I
think he's going to get second place.
Yeah, so like. Like Valner's, Literally.
Looking at like, let's just call it a, a second, a third and a
second tomorrow, yeah, I think that's 200.
That'll be 200. And 80 points, I think.
I think he'll. Be in first place by Sunday so.
That's not necessarily the. Biggest mover?
Because he's like 3rd or 4th right now, but I think he'll be
in first place by Sunday. How about?
Derek Cramon Chandler winning the deadlift.
Is there anybody that can beat him?
I so the. Agro bar is a fun little twist.
If it's if it's regular bar, no. Chandler has the best deadlift
by 20 ish pounds. Even if he's not his strong, at
least at least. 20 lbs, Yeah, I'd say at least. 20 lbs.
So like even if he's not his strongest, you know he should
still win just on sheer will. But like that aggro bar, I think
you know a wider the bigger you are.
It helps because your arms don't have to stretch out as far and
the bigger hands helps I it's well grip.
Grip is always the big issue with with it, and so if it helps
your grip, it kind of mitigates that.
It's just different. It's different.
You know what I mean? And so I don't know.
I, you know, I don't. It's going to, I don't know if
it'll help people, certain people, and not help other
people. It's just different.
So if people have experience lifting with it, then I think
they have a huge advantage. But he should win the deadlift.
I'll put it like that. He should win it, but it can't.
It does make it a little like it's not a given.
See how how much you know about Yellow's or Brent's deadlifts,
OK? So Brent did five O 5 in 2016
Deadlift Ranch, I think that that was that's a.
Long time ago. Yeah.
You should. You should.
You should effort that because if I pulled that out of thin
air, I I'm really proud of myself.
But I Brent, I think Brent is, I think he's kind of like Ricky
Brent Brent's, he'll be fine. It's not going to be great.
I see like middle of the pack. He's not weak.
I know Yella is bad at the Olympic lifts.
I don't know how he is at deadlift at all.
Let's see, Deadlift, which 2016? He had a 485 deadlift.
Brent did. Man, am I thinking?
Of Matt Fraser. No, he had 525I thought Frazier.
Was Velner was at 5:25 Frazier at five O 5 Ben.
Smith at five O 5. Yes.
Yep.
Exactly, exactly. That's crazy.
Cause five O 5, it ain't doing it.
Not, not anything today. Yeah, which granted last it was
he got 2020 third at. With that weight he'd probably
be. There was a big old tie.
For it though, yeah. Who could slide the most
tomorrow? I think yellow.
But you might think differently. That's a very good.
Pick. I don't.
I mean, I can't imagine Deadlift.
He's gonna be anywhere. 10th inning I can't.
I don't think it suits him as well.
He has the most to. He has the most to lose too
down. Could be a big mover cause
Down's a good dead lifter. He has to it's.
Kipping hands and push ups too, so it's just kind of fitness.
So he that first one will be his worst one of the three, but I he
could potentially be a big mover.
Then on the women's side. I think, oh, don't go, don't go
to the women, just go to the you just want.
To see the workouts. Yeah, I just want to see the
workouts. I'm just going to think through
the women, yeah. I mean, I feel like.
It's a fantastic day for Tia Tia.
Tia should win event four and then event 5.
If it's athletic, I mean, she's really athletic.
Like, yeah, the the only thing. With the duel is you just never
like. You just don't know.
One mistake, one mistake in your now your your 11th place, and
then she's got a good deadlift. I mean, I think Alex Gazan,
imagine if. The Imagine if the duel had
monkey bars. She wouldn't make it out of the
first round. That's.
True. That's right.
Wow. I didn't even think about that.
Yeah, for sure, Alex. All of these events are good for
Alex. Alex Gazan.
Yeah, that's probably who, I mean, I'm trying to think
through everybody. Like Emma, Lawson will be good,
but she's not going to pull as much.
Danielle Brandon will be really good at the 1st, 2:00, but she's
not going to pull as much at all.
Right, so I'm trying to think of what?
Like what suits all three? I think Laura will be hurt on
Event 4 tomorrow, like if she gets bailed out a little bit,
but I still think a good amount of girls will be that.
Many of them. I don't think she'll still get
exposed to some degree. Yeah, like, I mean, if she.
Gets 8th. You know, that's a good.
Showing for her in this event, but Tia gets 1st and she gets
8th. She has a lot ground to make.
Up, but I do think. That might be what happens to
the deadlifts. I think Tia will get like 8th,
which will be crazy, and then Laura will get second.
Yeah, 'cause she'd normally be top.
Three, yeah. And then Laura should be good at
the duel rolling through people I know so many would be good at
2:00 and then not good at the third.
One could Emma or Ariel. Win 10th inning.
I just think it moves. Too fast, Ariel?
Maybe. I I think I'd pick Ariel over
Emma because I think the power snatches, The power snatches.
That's kind of the workout. If you can do all this stuff
unbroken, you're not going to power snatch unbroken.
So whoever can get through the power snatches the fastest or
break it up the most efficiently, I think that's the
winner. And Ariel's 5 foot three and
Emma Lawson's like 5-8. Like it's that cycles faster.
I'm thinking of little bitty people that are you.
Know. Really.
Good at ring muscles and handstand push ups for this
workout. Or like like little like the
littler people that are really, really fit like Noah Olson I
think will do really good at this workout.
Shelby. Neal.
Shelby Neal would. I think it'll be a better
workout for her. I do, but she's.
Not as fit like for her it is going.
To be one of her better workouts, it's just her fitness.
She's just not at the level that the top girls are, yeah.
If it if this was strict, again Wilmore add.
I think Victor Hoffer has a shot but again because it's skipping
they lose all that that benefit advantage I think.
I think if I'm Wilmore. I still go strict.
At least the first few. Rounds.
Maybe that's because it'd be. Faster it could.
I don't. Know.
Maybe not. I think you just skip it and
break it up. I don't know.
Yeah, I think it depends on how. Far the power snatch is and how
much room there is on the transitions, like if there's a
lot of running or walking some time in between, you probably
could do a little bit more strict because you have time.
There are so many guys. That can win a bit for.
There's literally five guys. That I think could win a bit
for, yeah. While I have you on tonight
before, who's winning deadlift did you last time you picked
Spiegel? Is that what you said is?
That who you predicted on? On our prediction show yet last
night or on Wednesday night I I have.
Spiegel. But I'm going to predict.
Christine I'm not. I think Christine Cullen
Brander's gonna win the dead, though.
Going with Christine, she looks. Strong the The squats looked
great. Great, Great.
I. It wouldn't surprise.
Me if like Laura won, or Spiegel won, or even or heck, Alex.
After talking to the Kotler, Yeah, Alex or Freyova.
I mean, Alex, we don't know what she's got.
So what if she's ripped up? I'm probably not going to say
Alex, this is that probably has a thing to play, but I'm going
to say Christine, Cole and Brander, that's who I'm rolling
with. It could be, it literally could
be any of those five people. Yeah, I'm glad it's.
Doing the latter though, that'll be a a good one.
Anything else before we? Move on to the last topic.
No, I think, I think after event six it's going to be.
Really. Even with.
Laura and Tia, which is going to be, which is which is.
What we want, which is what we want, I think.
I think. Tia will be in first place after
event 4. After After tomorrow after event
4. Yeah, and then after tomorrow.
You say, Laura, I have no idea. No.
I think it'll be very, very even.
It's going to come down to the duel.
I think who is whoever is better on the duel, it'll be who's
leading at the end of tomorrow. You say that, but what?
If Christine, Spiegel and Frey OVA all out, deadlift Laura.
You know what I'm saying? If Laura.
Gets a fourth to Tia's like 7th, then it's not as much of a
difference as what event four will be, that's true.
That's true. Laura doesn't do that.
I don't see. That happening, but it could it
really. Well, Laura needs to.
Nora Lee needs to be top two, maybe.
Worst case three. Well, we'll see.
We'll see how. Bad.
She does in event four, yeah. Yeah, and if you noticed, Tyler
is not here today. That's because.
Mr. Watkins is I'm getting married today, so he's up in
Kentucky. Oh, come on.
Man getting married. So.
Priorities I think he's going to be on.
Tomorrow we'll see. But have you eaten yet?
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