1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,080 We are live. Good evening, everybody. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,240 The 2023 Rogue Invitational is behind us. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,880 John, you're already back in Houston. 4 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:15,080 Yes, I am. When did you leave? 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,720 You leave right near the end of it. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,760 Yeah, we left before the guys went. 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,760 Yeah, so. Watching it on YouTube as I was 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,040 coming home. What? 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,320 What happened in between that final or the the event 8 and 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,560 then the final event? Like, were they telling 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,520 everybody what was happening? Like, kind of what was that from 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,240 the perspective of being at the stadium itself? 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,320 As far as the. Event not being. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,360 On the field. Yeah, and like the notification, 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,960 what was kind of the atmosphere of going from, hey, I I paid all 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,200 the, you know, paid this money. I went there. 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Now I may not be able to see the final event in person. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Yeah, I mean, everybody could see the event in person. 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,959 You just were the lot. Like basically the crap. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,840 There was about 100 people, about 102 hundred people built 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,240 up on one stage. It was where the strongman did 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,360 the Iron Bowl and where all the people were lined up there. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,720 So most people could see what was going on, if not, like they 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,920 had every TV that had it on. So you can hear it and watch the 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,280 TV? If not, but yeah, they. 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,400 I don't know. I knew what the event, I knew it 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,800 was going to be like that beforehand. 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,840 So I don't know how it was going to be for regular people. 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,440 I did. That sounds bad, but you know 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,960 what I mean? I have sources. 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Yeah, yeah, so. Basically like like 20 minutes 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,040 beforehand, they they were, we knew that it was not going to be 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,320 on the field about 20 minutes before and then we found out and 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,920 then we found out what the event was like 10 minutes before. 35 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,440 OK. I I have to imagine that that 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,760 was not the event that was planned. 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,400 I. Think it was the event. 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,960 I I, I haven't had news that it wasn't. 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Why do you say that? A 14 minute time cap and the 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:21,200 slowest was 6 minutes 7 minutes and that was that was Bethany 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,760 who was taking her time with her back. 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,200 So. I know Brian works with them and 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,440 he was very surprised. It was a 14 minute cap too. 44 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,120 Like we he did not know that there was an extra element of 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,880 the workout was changed like none. 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,560 There was no talk of that. And usually there is like we 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,960 knew about the rope climb like immediately, right. 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,400 And there wasn't any talk that that was not what it was 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,520 supposed to be. I think they just wanted 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,600 everybody to finish it, but it was you know, they could have 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,320 made it 5 minutes shorter. I actually programmed this work 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,360 out for my gym and I gave it an 8 minute time cap and I said if 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,440 you can't make it then you get cap. 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Yeah, she is. Thanks for joining Vittorio. 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Got to support the show. 6 foot eight CrossFit, two of two 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,880 beating John Yug in shot, caller. 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Yeah, Veldner kind of screwed me in the second to last event. 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, it definitely changed going to the 59 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,880 handstand walk. I wasn't aware of it till the 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 last minute. Otherwise Hoffer would 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,160 definitely been the pick there. Renata, thanks for joining 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Vittorio 999. Thank you for your support. 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Good shit, Phyllis. Keep crushing it on the women's 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,440 side, they showed 175 at first. It's Lex 24 says. 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,680 It was supposed to be heavier. See, I thought that like Hillary 66 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,760 had mentioned our group chat, he he thought it was going to be 67 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,200 GHD sit ups. And it was never. 68 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,600 It was never. That. 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Yeah, I think that. I think Killer's workout that he 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,160 programmed would have been better in my opinion. 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,960 Then then I it would have been a completely different workout, 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,840 completely different stimulus, like if they wanted a certain 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,120 stimulus, I mean that's just a different workout altogether. 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,600 I do think if it was like 175 that would have made a 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,080 difference and in originally it said 175 on the graphic and I 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,880 don't know if they just did that wrong and they changed it last 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520 second like that could be the case and that's why the cap was 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,160 more that would make sense. But I I don't. 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,720 I have not gotten any news that that was the case. 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Yeah, maybe. I don't know if Katie was on the 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,040 final episode of Sivan's podcast, but Courtney's saying 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,600 it was supposed to be heavier, which I don't know why they 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:51,040 would have changed it, but I don't think it would have 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,160 changed any. Well, I don't think it would 85 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,400 have changed anything. It would have been closer for 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,680 Velner I think, But at the end of the day I think it would have 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,960 been the same. I yeah. 88 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,920 If anything, I think Velner would have done better because 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,720 he wouldn't have went so fast. Yeah, like you would have. 90 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,480 Slowed everybody down, including him, and he wouldn't have been 91 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:15,440 risky. Yeah, So walking through the 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,480 day, I mean, the women's race was about as good as it gets. 93 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Awesome. Yeah. 94 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Yeah, I mean, Laura with three first place finishes on the 95 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:34,000 weekend, Tia had two. I mean, Laura, other than Event 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,440 4, which was the handstand push up, everything was in the top 97 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:43,360 five, which is freaking amazing. And actually, same for Tia. 98 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Yeah, everything except the dual. 99 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,080 The dual. Yeah, except for the dual. 100 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:57,000 So I mean, where is it? There we go. 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,480 What do you think of Tia like? Dude she's something else man. 102 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,680 I, I I can't believe she deadlifted that much. 103 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,440 I was blown away without a belt too. 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,280 Like she's. I mean I I don't know I probably 105 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,560 should have just I probably should have expected more than I 106 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,400 did and I and was just wrong about her. 107 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,360 But I mean, I I'm really, really happy that Laura beat her. 108 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,160 I'm really happy Laura won. I feel like that needed to 109 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,840 happen. CrossFit can continue. 110 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,400 I think T is going to win 2024 games, running away by over 100 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,800 points. I don't think it'll be close. 112 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,360 I I completely agree with you that. 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,280 It was it was demoralizing how good she was. 114 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:53,360 Like you could see it on the other females faces like 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,400 everybody like can't fathom why she's so good. 116 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,560 But she but she is. And I mean I'm not going to beat 117 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,440 it to a pulp because we've had six years of her being this 118 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,800 good. So I'm really happy Laura won 119 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,480 because I think she's done winning until until Tia retires. 120 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,200 That's. What? 121 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 What did you think about her final, her speech where she kind 122 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,320 of was like, you know, it legitimizes my. 123 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Yo, it does. And I I would hunter and like 124 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,080 so, like, there are people are different camps and I'm in the 125 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,800 camp that you are the fittest person in the world at that 126 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,720 moment. You absolutely are. 127 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Tia was having a baby when you were winning the CrossFit Games. 128 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,080 It is what it is at that moment. You are the fittest woman in the 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,360 world. There's nothing that takes that 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,520 away. There's Jeff Adler was the 131 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,320 fittest man in the world. There's nothing that takes that 132 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,320 away. Tia's back. 133 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,200 I mean do you do you think there's is there any shot that 134 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,760 anybody can making Laura hang with her or is it like Tia just 135 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,880 has another eight months and it's just going to be? 136 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,000 No, it's over. I mean, the thing I looked at is 137 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,640 Tia would have won if she hadn't had the buy. 138 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Probably in that first in the duel. 139 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,040 Yeah, probably she. Probably advances should have 140 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,240 because she didn't. That's an execution here. 141 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,040 I could say Pat Veldner probably is a three time games champion 142 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,680 if he can freaking execute at certain. 143 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Moments. That's fair. 144 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,400 You know what I mean? So we can't. 145 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,000 We can't say the if. If she just did this. 146 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,520 She didn't. Laura was better than her. 147 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,960 In this competition, I don't think it will last. 148 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:42,760 Laura's the fittest woman in the world. 149 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,600 I don't think it will last. Yeah, I mean, that's it. 150 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,400 Do you think one? 100 percent 100% Laura's a rock 151 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 climber. That's what separates her is 152 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Laura's a a bigger girl, and of the bigger girls, she can pull 153 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,880 with the best of them like all the rest of the bigger girls 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,840 struggle in the gymnastics. The high volume gymnastics she 155 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,720 doesn't pulling is her freaking strength. 156 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,480 She can do it all day. Yes, I think she would have been 157 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:18,880 better with the pegboards, but it doesn't doesn't matter. 158 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Right. I I I mean I think from a 159 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,560 balance perspective, I think actually having the handstand 160 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,240 walks instead of the pegboards probably balanced it out a 161 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,040 little bit. There was so much pulling. 162 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,120 It made it longer for sure. I I kind of think instead of so 163 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,720 they took the rope climb out right of the the running. 164 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,240 And the sandbags, right. The dual yeah. 165 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,120 Yeah, it had the sandbags and what else? 166 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,640 It it it was the logs that's I think they should have. 167 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,040 Handstand walked to the bags and then I think that would have 168 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,480 been a really, really fun event and well balanced. 169 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Not just who can move the sandbags the best, which is what 170 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,840 it was. Who could move the sandbags the 171 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,720 best, I think. And then for the and then just 172 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,520 have the pegboards if you could. I know weather weather makes all 173 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,120 this stuff the reason why it didn't happen. 174 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,760 But. And then you can keep the 175 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,760 pegboards as is. I don't think the peg the 176 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,600 pegboards is pulling, but it's not like ripping your hands. 177 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Your hands aren't struggling right on a pegboard. 178 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,040 But I get it. I get it 100%. 179 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,840 I think it all worked out. The box jumps for great. 180 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Nobody hurt themselves. Bethany tried to, but yeah. 181 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Yeah, working down the leaderboard. 182 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,480 Horvath to me. Emma Lawson, Gabby Megala. 183 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Another great race at the end of the final one. 184 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 And I mean, and Alex Kazan, I like, I know she's like kind of 185 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,120 by herself there. But if you look at her 186 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,800 placements, that's 16th, 17th. Kotler came on here and told us 187 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,240 like she kind of got a raw deal. And like that's not what she is. 188 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:01,720 If you know like if her actual fitness was shown in those 189 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,360 events and they let's just say let's don't even say she kills 190 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,320 it but like say she's 10th and 12th then she's ahead of Emma 191 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Lawson right or right there with her and and I so like like I 192 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,000 think there was a three-way battle for that. 193 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,280 I I thought Gabby was going to take Emma. 194 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,120 I I honestly did. Emma shows that she's stronger 195 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,520 than people think she is. Once again no. 196 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160 What's awesome is we kind of have this in order you know it's 197 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,920 crazy right? Like, check this out. 198 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,040 So up at the top we have the 2023 CrossFit Games Champion, 199 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,200 below her is the 2024 CrossFit Game Champion, and then below 200 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,680 her is the 2025 CrossFit Games Champion. 201 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,920 That's pretty awesome, isn't it? Oh, you're going out two years, 202 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,480 huh? Yeah, you heard it here first. 203 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,840 Whenever it happens, you heard it. 204 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:58,520 I mean, Emma, I think still has some some things to shore up for 205 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,600 sure, but she's got she's. To do it. 206 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:07,120 She has plenty of time at at this case, Renata Bethany I 207 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,560 think should should not be in this competition or get 208 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:16,480 disqualified. And I she's she's saying that 209 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,600 because she didn't. She didn't deadlift. 210 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,560 She didn't deadlift. She didn't do the squats. 211 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Yeah. And then in the last event, she 212 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,640 took her time on the cleaning jerks. 213 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,160 I think she was expecting people to cheer on because she was like 214 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,680 the last place person. And she's like, come on, I'm the 215 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:35,320 last place person. But I mean, like, you're hyping 216 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,840 people up over a 155 cleaning shirt. 217 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,440 Yeah. I I don't know. 218 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,160 I I get. I mean, she she earned it in the 219 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,880 sense that she got 15th at the Games. 220 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,000 But it sucks to see somebody that can't do the movements 221 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,160 right. Like you have two events that 222 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,040 you basically just sit out, which Hoffer did as well on the 223 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,800 deadlift, and then you know you're really not competitive on 224 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,240 a lot of them because you just can't push it enough, which is I 225 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,680 see both sides, right? Like she's she should be allowed 226 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:15,800 to kind of go because she has that, but I'd like to see 227 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,920 somebody that could actually fight and and be in that 228 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,960 position to push every single time. 229 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,200 No, I agree. I agree. 230 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:30,680 I think it's it's tricky. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can't, 231 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,320 you can't stop them from you can't say, well, if she wanted 232 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,200 to do. Roe, she wanted to do it, yeah. 233 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,840 But like, I agree with you, if you want to do it, you need to 234 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,760 you need to push the boundaries to do these. 235 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Like you're you're putting you're you're stealing the 236 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 position from somebody else that would push themselves. 237 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,000 Yeah, yeah. And I I do. 238 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,560 I do know she was. Super. 239 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,320 Yeah. She was disappointed. 240 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,240 Cautious competition. Right. 241 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,400 Yeah. She was disappointed when I 242 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,440 think TA got her. Her invite her initially and 243 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,760 then luckily she got she got the invite. 244 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:09,200 But yeah, it's it's tough to see that Danielle couldn't squat 245 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,200 last year but nobody asked her to drop out. 246 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,960 I think that might be she tried and she didn't. 247 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Nobody knew the workouts ahead of time. 248 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,280 No, I don't think it would make sense for Bethany to drop out 249 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,400 the week before. But I mean. 250 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Last year? No. 251 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,520 This stuff is common. It's going to be heavy. 252 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,960 It's going to be, really. Hard. 253 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,600 It's going to be really hard and heavy. 254 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,240 You're not going to get a whole bunch of cardio workouts and if 255 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 you don't think you like, you should expect I'm going to have 256 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,840 to push my body really hard. Like you should not expect 257 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,280 anything different. And if you don't think you can, 258 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,200 then I don't think you should do the competition. 259 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,240 But like she's earned it and she wanted to do the competition. 260 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,480 So I I get, I get what you're saying. 261 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,760 I feel both sides. Too, Yeah, Emma Carey with a a 262 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,240 solid 6th place finish there. And Danielle Brandon, right back 263 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,840 to They can't get away from each other. 264 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,240 They can move camps. They can't get away from each 265 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,120 other though. Right, Emma Carey is a monster 266 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,120 on the machines. Monster Monster. 267 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,520 Like you would not expect it, but you put her on an echo bike 268 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,240 and she's one of the best women out there. 269 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,920 Yeah, I agree. I mean, she tracked down Tia. 270 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,760 I mean, I would say Emma is one of those that between Emma 271 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:38,840 passing Tia on the bike and Laura out running, who was it at 272 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 the end on the event? Eight. 273 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Who was that? Out running who? 274 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,480 Who was who did? Emma Carey. 275 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,560 No, Laura Horvath. She ran. 276 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,120 She ran. Emma Carey. 277 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:56,520 Yes, Emma Carey played a factor in both, beat Tia and then lost 278 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,680 out by a fraction of a second on the next event. 279 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,520 That was 10 points. That was pretty much the 280 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:13,440 difference. So see Ariel Lowen down an 281 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,720 eighth. Danny Spiegel moved her way back 282 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,880 up to 9th I think she got. So lucky multiple times and it 283 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,280 annoys the fire out of me. Why? 284 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Why does it annoy you? You put a rope climb in the duel 285 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,120 and then she's irrelevant. I'm not saying that she doesn't 286 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,400 do Stillwell because she was better on the logs than 287 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,160 everybody. She was right. 288 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,680 But and it was really amazing to watch how athletic she could be. 289 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,520 Very true. You put a rope climb there, she 290 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:49,880 gets 7th or 7th through 10th. Yeah, she doesn't get first and 291 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:55,040 then the she got lucky somewhere and then they get rid of the peg 292 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,200 boards. I feel like she got lucky on 293 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,240 that too. Yeah, she's pretty good at 294 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,200 handstand walking, although her conditioning is not which 295 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,720 shocker. Yeah man In Agony's down in 10th 296 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:17,359 Christine Colon Brander, Lauren Fisher, Paige Powers and 13th 297 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Paige Semenza. And 14th Emily Rolfe, Bethany 298 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,960 Flores, Karen Freova just couldn't ever put anything 299 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,119 together. She was sick. 300 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,360 She was sick. During the oh, was she? 301 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Like like vom vomitous the whole weekend. 302 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,760 That makes sense then. That's that, explains Karen 303 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,560 Freova. Yeah, definitely. 304 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Kyra Mill will get an 18th Shelby Neal and 19th and Elena. 305 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,640 Take note that Kyra Milliken can freaking deadlift 'cause I did 306 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,680 not know that until she was. Well, you had talked about it on 307 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Sivan's show before that, like somebody was going to have a 308 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,000 deadlift that we didn't know about and it was, it was Kyra. 309 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:59,560 Yeah, she looks strong. And Elena, Karatella, Sanahua 310 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:06,080 down there in 20th spot. Any any surprises on this 311 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,320 leaderboard either direction that that need to get called 312 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,920 out? Either direction, I don't know, 313 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,560 man. I feel like we kind of predicted 314 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,400 about all of these. Danielle Brandon. 315 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Was a surprise, but then I I think that Danielle Brandon had 316 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:30,360 the best day three out of everybody relatively fitness 317 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:36,640 wise, an eighth. 1st and 1/4. Yeah, I mean, you can scroll up 318 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,000 and look at the other girls like Laura and Tia, especially the 319 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,480 workouts that were given to them. 320 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:48,240 I think Daniel Brandon's 84814 is better than Tia's 523. 321 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,280 And then I think it's better than Laura's 414 or whatever it 322 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,800 was because relatively fitness wise, she's not as fit as Laura. 323 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Tia, but her day three like monstrous climb her and down and 324 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,280 both her and down and pepper both. 325 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Yeah, I mean Danielle was other than Tia and Emma, Daniel had 326 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:16,400 the best, best finish of all three compared to anybody. 327 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:22,360 So and actually I think yeah, even Laura or other Emma. 328 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:26,320 So I mean, Daniel had the third best of any other woman. 329 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,080 So yeah, she worked her way up. Helped out a lot. 330 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,840 So do you have any surprises? I I What's funny? 331 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,200 What's funny is Alex got 5th and I think she showed that she was 332 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,920 better than I. Like I come away from this like 333 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:54,120 Alex Kazan is is I I think it. I think Rogue serves her better 334 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:59,120 than the Games, so I'm not going to say podium potential, but I'd 335 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:02,560 like she. They say they did another row 336 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,120 competition in a month. I would. 337 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:07,720 I'd still have her third. I just probably would have Tia 338 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,640 2nd instead of. Yeah, I mean, I I think, you 339 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,880 know, on all my picks or the top 10 or top 20, I mean, I did 340 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,800 really well on the women's side. I think if I was going to be 341 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,440 surprised by anybody, I think it'd be Lauren. 342 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Fisher. Lauren, yeah, And Lauren Fisher 343 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,200 was higher than that. She was like 8th place. 344 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,000 Right. Yeah, we talked about Danielle, 345 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,120 Brandon having a good last day. Lauren Fisher did not have a 346 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:37,600 very good last day. And so you know everything she 347 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,280 was going through with her mother passing and you know she 348 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,520 was one that came in through the qualifier. 349 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520 You would expect her probably not to be competing against some 350 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,040 of them women that had made it in qualified beater and semi 351 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,800 finals and she comes out and and so she still has it. 352 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,240 She's just put together, I don't know, at the right weekend and 353 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,200 semi finals and she could be back at the games. 354 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,640 So that would be my biggest surprise on the women's side. 355 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,640 Let's go take a look at the men. Pat Felder. 356 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,960 Man, who called that I? Don't know, John. 357 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,320 I. Don't know, I don't know, man. 358 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,040 So that does that mean 20, the 2024 games winner is? 359 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,400 Roman Critikoff, That's what that means. 360 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,320 I mean, Pat, should I tell? You. 361 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,320 I'm so bumper Brent Brent has tied for third in every 362 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 competition. You could do it, come up short 363 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,520 and dude man, like I I I was rooting for Brent to get third 364 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,880 and I I once again he's the reason there's not an all 365 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,920 Canadian podium. Yeah. 366 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,040 He just can't. He just can't do it. 367 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080 You can't. And it's always it's Roman, 368 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,120 always, meddling man. Oh, I know it was. 369 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,200 I was watching those last five clean and jerks and I'm like 370 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,600 Brent, just just push jerking you can. 371 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,920 Do it. Five of them. 372 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Five of them. The Shizz, Thank you for $5 373 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,200 Thoughts on Underdog making Brandon and has been flat fully 374 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,280 under Brute. I disagree with that. 375 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,640 I don't think she's been better, but I don't think she's been 376 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,680 worse. I think all of you were way too 377 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,920 high on Brandon at 1st, and now I think she's doing what she is. 378 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,360 I mean, I. Feel like that's pretty 379 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,000 consistent with what I've always said. 380 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,680 Am I wrong? Spin. 381 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,880 No. That's definitely what you said 382 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,160 I was. I I looked at her 2022 Games 383 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,440 performance and thought that was going to continue. 384 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,680 Obviously it had not. I it probably had to do some 385 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,760 with the programming between 22 and 23. 386 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,440 She's just doesn't. She just has a few of those 387 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,680 holes where it's top end strength that I don't know if 388 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,040 she could ever shore that up to get back into that spot where 389 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,640 she's fighting for a podium. That, I mean that's that's what 390 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,280 it would take because I think she, I think she has the engine. 391 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,640 I think she has machine power. I think she has obviously the 392 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,560 gymnastics she has. She's got home run ability on 393 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,640 anything with her hands it's and her Olympic lifting is not bad, 394 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,200 right. It's just the brute strength. 395 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,400 Yeah, and the problem is. Ironically enough, I love. 396 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,720 I love saying that. Because. 397 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,720 She's not in brute strength. Well, I mean the the The thing 398 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280 is like, he's not talking about Laura. 399 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Handstand push ups is her weakness, right? 400 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,360 But it's she can go overhead with weights and it's not a 401 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,840 problem. It's just going upside down in 402 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,520 handstand push ups. That happens once, or if you're 403 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,080 at the games this year, it barely is. 404 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,640 You know it's negligible because it's free. 405 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,400 Stand in handstand push ups, It doesn't matter. 406 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,520 Yeah. But it's but it's one event like 407 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,400 this. You have squats, you have 408 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:04,680 deadlift ladder, you know, so it's heavy, heavy, heavy. 409 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,560 And if you take a few bad events and you can't be coming, it's. 410 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,520 It's yoke carry like anything super heavy, which there's going 411 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,080 to be two or three events every every competition row, row, 412 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520 maybe four or five. Yeah, and even even moderately 413 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,640 heavy, right? Like, she's not going to take a 414 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840 top five in it. She's going to take middle. 415 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Out moderately heavy I'm. Going to say not an all out, 416 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,640 right? Like, yeah. 417 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,920 Yeah, like the squat. The squat log workout. 418 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800 Yeah. Yeah like something that it it's 419 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,720 it's lower reps but it's heavier she's she's not going to not 420 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:48,880 going to stick stick there. Jeff Adler, what do you think? 421 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440 I mean, he did everything he could, but just a little bit 422 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,520 short. Is that just they just didn't go 423 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,360 go his way? No, I think it's cool that he 424 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,760 bookended it. Rogue with WINS. 425 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520 He started with the win and then ended with the win. 426 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,680 I think that's kind of cool. He's he's the only guy to win 2 427 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,600 events. Is he? 428 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,800 Roman didn't. Oh, did Roman? 429 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Roman won the chipper and then he. 430 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Oh no, Dallin won the chipper. Dallin won the chipper. 431 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,400 That's right. Oh, man. 432 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,640 Yeah, I think he might be then. I think he was, I think the 433 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,920 men's side every there was a different winner every single 434 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,280 time. And then Adler came out at the 435 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,200 very end. Roman's foot looks totally fine. 436 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Yep. No issues there, Ricky clawed 437 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,920 his way back up to 5th. I thought he was going to be 438 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:46,720 relegated down to 10th, 11th place, but that's got to be a 439 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,520 good. Travis Mayer and Jason Hopper 440 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,200 have been 6th and 7th all three times they've done. 441 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,240 Rogue. That's crazy. 442 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Isn't that insane? Yeah, yeah, Hopper, he's so 443 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,880 close to put it all together, but I I think it, I feel better 444 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,360 about seeing this for next year. I did too and I think this is 445 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:14,280 how he needs to just be regular training, you know what I mean? 446 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,520 Like he seemed to enjoy himself and I think if he sees something 447 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,560 that he can crush like he will go out and cry. 448 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,600 I I It felt like he had less pressure on himself and he was 449 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,120 just trying to enjoy Rogue, but like like compete, compete. 450 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:33,560 But like, the world doesn't end if you have a bad event. 451 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,920 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. 452 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,360 And. And I think, like, I think he 453 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,920 was like that, like he felt like that his rookie year because he 454 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,880 thought he was going to win even though he was not close. 455 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,440 And then he was like that last year, probably from expectations 456 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,800 and how he was training right? And then he wasn't the two year 457 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,640 he wasn't here at Rogue just now, and the year he got 458 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,640 seventh, he just felt, you know what I mean? 459 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,360 We weren't talking about him as much, but it seems like he 460 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:06,880 performed much better whenever he was just trying to compete. 461 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,200 But like, it's not. It's OK if he does bad on an 462 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,920 event. Do you think he's always going 463 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,760 to be one of those guys that has 234 just bad events like he 464 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,480 doesn't have? He's not well-rounded enough. 465 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,640 I think for him, his goal, he probably should watch Brent 466 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,200 Fukowski because Brent Fukowski is bad at the same stuff that 467 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,480 Hopper is bad at. And you look at Brent, so Hopper 468 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,160 was 19th, Brent was 15th. I know that doesn't seem like 469 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200 very much. It's 23 reps on that log squat 470 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,560 workout. 23 reps is a lot and I know it was only four spots. 471 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,640 But then you look at the other one that he was bad at 17th, 472 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,880 Brent was 10th, right? And that's the handstand, push 473 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,560 up, ring, muscle up, power snatch workout. 474 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,920 That's just pacing, pacing and knowing yourself, right, Who's 475 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:04,360 the greatest at that Brent is. And then the deadlift, the 476 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,160 deadlift struggle that, yeah, he, yeah, he's doesn't have the 477 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,560 hardships that Brent has there. And then the rest of the 478 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960 workouts, he was fine. I mean, I think 13 is where he's 479 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,960 fine. You know, Brent's probably 480 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,400 cardiovascularly fitter than him, and I think the clean and 481 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,840 jerk workout was more of that. And like that's where the gap 482 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,000 was made there. For instance, if I do this 483 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,440 workout, if I do that clean workout, I mean I'm probably 484 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,040 sniffing 5 minutes. And it's not because I'm not 485 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480 stronger. It's it's a fitness thing. 486 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,880 And I think that's like what Hopper and Fukowski the 487 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,200 difference is there. But like his major holes, Brent 488 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,040 has been there, done that, Tell me a hole that Hopper has that 489 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:50,600 Brent didn't have first and then and he's learned how to optimize 490 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,240 that to his fullest potential. And I think that's and Hopper 491 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,840 has more home run ability if you ask me, like he's the best in 492 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,240 the world at certain things. Brent was never the best in the 493 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160 world. He's just got home run hits. 494 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,680 Well, I mean, yeah. And Brent thinks through 495 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,200 everything. I mean, you look at the 496 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,680 handstand walk event. I mean, he's running without his 497 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,720 arms just to save him. Like, yeah, you know, like 498 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,800 nobody else is doing that, right? 499 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:23,520 Like, it's just a small thing. Is is to try to do, to optimize 500 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880 the bad events the way Fukowski does, right? 501 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,200 And then I think he'll take the next step forward. 502 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,200 And I mean, hopefully, you know, fingers crossed for him that 503 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080 that means like podium potential, that's what Brent is. 504 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,720 Well, I mean it's it was four places throughout 9 events 505 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Hopper needed and he's at he's with Ricky. 506 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,400 Yeah. Right. 507 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,400 I mean absolutely. And we're talking. 508 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,880 It's a lot different when you're in fifth than in 7th, even 509 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,560 though the points are almost identical. 510 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920 Dal and Pepper turned on. Best last day. 511 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,000 They're yes, look at that 143. Look at that. 512 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360 That's crazy. Is is that just a matter of it, 513 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,560 lining up with him like those, those workouts? 514 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800 He's been, he's done this every competition he's done. 515 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520 He did this at the games, he did this in semi finals like 516 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,560 Guatapalooza, he even did. He was even like really good in 517 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,000 the last day. Guatapalooza I think. 518 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Don Pepper, this is just his MO is that he's going to have his 519 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,200 best day on the last day more. More like a Cole Sager. 520 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,720 Cole Sager would always do this, I think. 521 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400 Which these are three. These are three Crossfitty 522 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,480 workouts. They are. 523 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Is that is that something to do with it? 524 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,160 Well, I mean he the one that he won was because he it was faster 525 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,120 on the bike. And I mean grind time and biking 526 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,800 is Dalan Pepper's Moi. Think Roman would have beat him 527 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,800 if he knew the time, but he didn't. 528 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,920 Lost in translation there. Where are you, Blondie? 529 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Whatever your name is. Yeah, Rosa need to be standing 530 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,960 there with them. But I think, I think Dalan's 531 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,320 always going to have a strong day last day. 532 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,200 I think. I think that's just his MO. 533 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,720 When people are tired for the weekend and they just want to 534 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,840 get through it, that's when he's pushing his harvest and Cole 535 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Sager would do this all the time. 536 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,120 And I think, I think Down and Pepper is like that. 537 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Yeah, Roman, is Brandon. Still with Brute. 538 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Not with Torres, for sure. Change camp. 539 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,160 Yeah, she's under my coach. Coach L. 540 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,400 OK, so she's under Coach L still with Brute. 541 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,160 I believe she's been with Torres and and still with Torres in a 542 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,960 different fashion. And I believe it's in Nashville 543 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,880 now or going back and forth, I'd have no idea. 544 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,640 I don't know. Living situation, yeah, but 545 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,600 she's still with Brute. Yeah, see Renata. 546 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,600 How would it end up if Tia would not fail in the last event? 547 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,200 Laura would. Laura still would have. 548 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,720 Yeah, it would have been a 5 point versus A10 point gap. 549 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,160 But Laura Laura's one of the best at barbell cycling. 550 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,520 So now give give Tia eight more months. 551 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,160 It probably is a different story. 552 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,040 I. Don't know. 553 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,960 I think, I think an event like that, it's so short. 554 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920 I I I don't know if Tia wins, but I mean, I think they're 555 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,440 right there next to each other the whole time, like they were 556 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,920 next to each other for three minutes and then Laura had a 557 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,840 little bit of a Rep lead and then just said like that the 558 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,680 whole time. And then Tia. 559 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,160 L Right. You can tell that Tia is not at 560 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,120 100% capacity like they're just some things were. 400. 561 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,600 Yeah, only that's it. Yeah. 562 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,720 I think just some of her, I guess like running is fine, 563 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,720 right? But like the reps and the 564 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760 conditioning when it with weights I think may be a little 565 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320 bit different, right? Like she's just not there yet. 566 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,960 She's close, but I would say. The heavier, the heavier 567 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,400 weights. Yeah, yeah. 568 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Five months postpartum. Tia is extremely impressive. 569 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,360 I would agree, Jimmy, she she was extremely. 570 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,720 Impressive going down. Noah Olson, Jay Crouch, I was 571 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,040 are. We consistently. 572 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,280 Underrated. I could not believe his his 573 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,800 deadlift 575. I would not have ever placed the 574 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,480 575 deadlift. I mean, that's the same as 575 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,960 Hopper. Yeah, dude, some people are like 576 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,200 that. Some people just have an 577 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520 otherworldly deadlift, like Hitler. 578 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,960 Hitler has an otherworldly day like he's. 579 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 He just pulled six O 5, right? Yeah, but yeah. 580 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,920 But he's not as strong as everybody that pulls six O 5. 581 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,400 No, that was a memory that he did. 582 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,960 Oh, was it? Yeah, I thought it was. 583 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000 I thought he just did that. I I it was a repost. 584 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:54,400 Was it OK? I think so, 'cause he's. 585 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,880 I don't think he's he's not as strong as he used to be. 586 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:03,840 No, he said, in honor of Rogue. He pulled 600 that 180 lbs In 587 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,920 2018. Yeah, this is that video. 588 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,120 It's been it took a four years to help some surpass that lift. 589 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,679 So some help. So I think that was this morning 590 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,560 or last night I think he went out and did it. 591 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,520 But yeah, I mean, he can, he has a great deadlift and but like 592 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,920 you said it, it just because of a great deadlift doesn't mean 593 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,239 you're great at all. The other Olympic, you know, any 594 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,920 other Olympic lifts. No deadlift's just a weird. 595 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,800 It's a weird one. My deadlift and squat are very 596 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,440 close to each other. Yeah, which is incredibly 597 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,159 annoying. Renata Yes Kara Kara freova. 598 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,360 She was sick according to John, so that is that is why she 599 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,719 underperformed. From what we expected her to 600 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,920 see, yellow host day in 11th BKG fell off. 601 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,880 Chandler fell off BKG, Chandler both fell off hard. 602 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,480 Yeah, and 12/13/14. So if you watched on Wednesday, 603 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,960 Lazar was the the place where we were. 604 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,400 A lot of bets were being made between John and Tyler. 605 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,440 First one was who would finish higher, BKG or Lazar PKG got 606 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,800 them and then Chandler or Lazer and all three are right there 607 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,600 within 2030 points of each other. 608 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,920 I just won it handedly on day two. 609 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,240 It was not a question. Yeah. 610 00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,920 And. It started sliding backwards 611 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,760 fast once we started. Doing actual CrossFit. 612 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560 Right. Yeah, the the dead. 613 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,280 The deadlift definitely helped Chandler. 614 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,320 If the deadlift was not. If it was a clean, Chandler 615 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,840 would not have taken first. For sure, but that's that's my 616 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,720 reasoning why I picked Chandler that high. 617 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:58,520 Yeah, yeah, Tudor Magda in 15th, Bailey Martin, Victor Hoffer, 618 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,920 17th. He got some home run hits. 619 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,120 Yeah, yeah, you you knew that. That's why I had him. 620 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960 I think I ranked him maybe 14th or something like that. 621 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,160 I didn't expect him to not lift a deadlift at all. 622 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,760 And a couple of them, I think he, I thought he was going to do 623 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,640 better. What was it, 470? 624 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,080 That's a lot. Yeah. 625 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,160 So I I mean, if he didn't feel comfortable lifting 470, but he 626 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,600 can hang with everybody on everything else. 627 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,320 I mean, that's still still pretty good. 628 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,640 Will Morad down an 18th? That's a little surprising. 1. 629 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,280 Yeah, Garrett Clark and then yon Koski. 630 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200 They started at 4:55. That's right. 631 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,600 They went up in 15 increments, 450-5470. 632 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,400 Last night was so long. How was the crowd last night at 633 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560 the at the stadium? Because that that was that was a 634 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,840 four hour deadlift fest. I waited for the women to be 635 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,160 over and then after the women we went and got pizza and I watched 636 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,720 it on. YouTube. 637 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,160 Because I knew I was not staying till 10:30 and then and then I 638 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,960 did not know we weren't podcasting. 639 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080 I'm in the mindset that we're going to podcast after this. 640 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,200 I mean, I'm not going to eat. Well, that means I'm not going 641 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,360 to eat since 8:00 in the morning and then I'm just not going to 642 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:40,600 eat until 11:30, like. So I yeah, So I left. 643 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,160 And then I watched the men. I mean, it happened exactly what 644 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,800 we thought was going to happen, happen with the with the men 645 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,400 anyway. Yeah. 646 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,080 I didn't think there would be a ton of questions on that. 647 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,440 I wish Pat would have deadlifted 600. 648 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,400 I feel like he deadlifted it to where he's like, Oh yeah, I know 649 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,360 I can hit 600 and then I'll just drop it before it actually 650 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000 counts. Yeah, yeah. 651 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,840 I mean, the yesterday was a very tough day, like it started out 652 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,880 strong and then the duel was so long, the deadlift was so long. 653 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,360 Question here from Ian White, do you think that those who went 654 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,560 late into the deadlift last night affected him today? 655 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,040 Because I mean, both Pat and Chandler struggled relative to 656 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,720 the field. Did Laura struggle? 657 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,560 No. Did Tia struggle? 658 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,720 No, but the men. The men did go later. 659 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,440 Alex Kazan struggle, You know, I think. 660 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,720 I think Pat probably knew he had it wrapped up. 661 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,440 I think Chandler actually struggled, yes, but not because 662 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,800 of the. Depth. 663 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,200 Yeah. Well, these those were not great 664 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,360 events for Chandler. You have to think the amount of 665 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,640 volume that they did was not a lot at all on day two. 666 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,320 It was. I know it was like heavy, heavy, 667 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,640 heavy, heavy. But they didn't do much volume 668 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,360 at all. The duel was nothing. 669 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,120 The duel was nothing to them. Especially if you got cut. 670 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,400 Especially if you got. Cut. 671 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:14,840 Yeah. Yeah. 672 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,800 I, from a spectator's perspective, that was, that was 673 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,360 tough to watch on the live stream all day long, right? 674 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,160 I mean, it was just such a long break between and you think 675 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,240 about attention spans and wanting to stay. 676 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,320 Like last night watching the Deadlift was like just just 677 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,360 let's just get with it, right? Like, just keep going. 678 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040 I know they needed breaks, but I'm like just go like. 679 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,320 I know. Like 30 seconds was too much if 680 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,920 we if. We don't give them all a break, 681 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,600 then it's even. Yeah. 682 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000 Yeah. So I mean I would have liked to 683 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,920 see like 15 second intervals, not 30. 684 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,280 Well, they they didn't need to go up in fives for the women. 685 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,720 As soon as they did, they wouldn't. 686 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,800 They should have went up in fives like once we got to four O 687 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,680 5. Yeah, because, well, I mean, we 688 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,680 made that like 30 minutes longer than it had to be for the. 689 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,120 Women, yeah, that was that was definitely rough. 690 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960 Daniel, Gary, Do we think we need fewer people at the game so 691 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,240 there's more uncertainty in the leaderboard, or is that just a 692 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,800 function of programming? It's it's more the function of 693 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,800 programming than the people at the games. 694 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,960 I know there's lower tier, lower tier games athletes and upper 695 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,800 tier games athletes and these are all the upper tier games 696 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,480 athletes. But if we had 40 people with the 697 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,680 same programming there would be even it would be the landslides 698 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:45,360 would be even more because the they just they program very 699 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,440 niche things and like there are workouts where like like I'm not 700 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,920 even a semi finals athlete and there are workouts where I could 701 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,360 potentially be top five and I'm not even a semi finals athlete, 702 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,640 you know what I mean? So like they they just program 703 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,280 very niche type of deals and that's just broke has always 704 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,720 been like that. That's why it's it's fun for 705 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,520 some because if you have a really bad event you'd have 20 706 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520 points An event doesn't mean you're out of it. 707 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,880 There could be so much jump swings like Danielle Brandon was 708 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,760 16th place and then she ends up 7th. 709 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,920 And I I think a lot of people like that. 710 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920 But that's that's what we get with the programming and they 711 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,760 don't claim to be we're finding the fittest people. 712 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,520 They're, they're, they're their own thing. 713 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,240 No, but I think the fittest people generally do pretty darn 714 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,200 well at Rogue. So it it kind of works out, 715 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080 yeah. No, it's still a CrossFit 716 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,840 competition, but they don't claim that this is the fittest. 717 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,120 Person it doesn't. It doesn't have to be as 718 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,280 well-rounded as what CrossFit is trying to say at the Games. 719 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,880 I think is probably what you're trying to say. 720 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Matt Day. I used to be a fan of Max Outs, 721 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,880 but last night made me want ladders. 722 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,360 Well, last night was a ladder, so. 723 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,680 Yeah, I think, I don't know if he's talking about like what it 724 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,360 was like in Aromas where it just had 15 barbells and no, like 725 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040 1515 barbells. You just work your way through 726 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,400 and you're done. You're done. 727 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,960 Yeah, I. Like the set up where you have 728 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,520 four people go at a time and then four people go at a time. 729 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960 We just need to be, we need to be faster. 730 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,480 Yeah. Hey guys, we're not going to 731 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,640 have a lot of rest, so you might not PR. 732 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,480 This is what we do. Yeah, I mean, that's where 733 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,720 nobody was going to get it on their second attempt. 734 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,560 There's no need to have 30 seconds, no. 735 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,360 Like you could have 10 seconds and it still would have been 736 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400 fine. Yeah, yeah. 737 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,080 Jared Ellis Games 2023 or Rogue 23 Programming and why? 738 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,440 I think it's a much bigger topic. 739 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,080 We may have to approach it another day, but it's a What are 740 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,840 we looking for, Jared? Yeah, that's a do we like it? 741 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,720 Do we not? I mean, there's a lot that goes 742 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,920 into it. I my guess is get with the 743 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,640 programming. Chase and Bill will go through 744 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,280 that, at least the road programming for sure and how 745 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,960 that kind of worked out and then Jr. and and Taylor will also do 746 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,400 that. Yeah, we didn't talk about this. 747 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,280 What happened with Chandler and his bike on the chipper? 748 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,880 So he got on there and it didn't turn on. 749 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,760 And then his judge was like, hey, I can't turn on the bike. 750 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,360 And then they didn't know what to do. 751 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,800 And then they waited for Jay Crouch to get off. 752 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,040 And then they just told him to get off. 753 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,080 And but he still beat Jay, right? 754 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,640 Yeah, he beat Jay because he beat him on the finish line. 755 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,160 Kind of BS really. Really. 756 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,000 BS. That's what happened, That last 757 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880 30 cows. He's just Cruisey, Cruisey, and 758 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,160 they said he did it in 60 seconds. 759 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,400 And his first cow he did in like 128, so he did not bike 30 cows 760 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,520 and he beat Jay Crouch by half a second. 761 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160 So did it. Would that have affected the 762 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,240 leaderboard at all? Would Jay have five more points? 763 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,520 Does that put Jay in another spot? 764 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,800 Let's see. He would have tied with Dallin, 765 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,920 but he would not have. He didn't have. 766 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,360 Jay never had a tiebreaker. Dallin had the win, so OK. 767 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,640 So thankfully, that didn't affect any money. 768 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,040 If it did affect money, I mean, we're. 769 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,120 Talking. I'm surprised Jay didn't protest 770 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,160 like. He might not have known. 771 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,960 Yeah, yeah, that one. That one was, it's like, wait a 772 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,160 minute, there's no way. And we went back and looked at 773 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,880 it and it was 60 seconds. That'd be a heck of a bike at 774 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,800 the very end. That was your first time at 775 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,200 Rogue, right? No, I was there last year. 776 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,560 Oh, were you OK? Better, worse atmosphere. 777 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,120 Everything kind of put together with the rain and. 778 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,640 The weather put a damper on it. I like the programming better 779 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,600 this year than last year. I think it could have been done 780 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,320 way better. I get, I get the hardness to 781 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,560 watch of it, to watch. But as far as the programming 782 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,840 goes, I I liked this programming better than last year's. 783 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,360 The I think they were dealing with a lot of stuff and they 784 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,520 just they were they did the best that they could So like I I have 785 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,080 no complaints with how it was. I thought the live stream was 786 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,560 awesome for the most part I I don't have any complaints. 787 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,440 I'm not near as strict about that stuff as Sevon is so I 788 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,920 didn't have any problem watching it when I was watching the live 789 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,560 stream. Not all, all around it. 790 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,960 I mean, I don't know. It's hard because a lot of 791 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,040 things I liked better this year. Last year the weather was better 792 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,440 and that made it. It was cold last year, but it 793 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,920 wasn't. If it's dry, that's the 794 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,600 difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 795 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,680 But no, I'm probably this year just because of the programming 796 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,760 and my pick actually won this time. 797 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,160 So it's hard not to root for the one that you picked. 798 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:19,440 So, right, like, I mean, yeah, so I mean that's, that's, that's 799 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,560 what I'm rolling with. I did meet. 800 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,280 I tell you what, I met a lot of people that I have talked bad 801 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:31,920 about, like the like the very first day, the very first day. 802 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,840 I talked with a couple of Tia fans and they asked me why I say 803 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,440 the things I say about Tia even though I'm not Hitler. 804 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,840 They treated me like I was Hitler. 805 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,120 And I was like. Guys, she she's doing great. 806 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,080 Like like I got like 16 DMS in my message in my thing after 807 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,520 after she won the run. And I was like, no, I hope she 808 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,040 does great. I just want Laura to do a little 809 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:56,720 better. That's it. 810 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:04,040 And then I I met Ficundo and he like, like, waved me down. 811 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,880 Like I didn't hear him, like somebody else had to get me so I 812 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,520 could talk to him. And and I was like, oh, God. 813 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,280 And then he was. And then like, he first thing he 814 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,480 goes, it's like, why do you hate mayhem? 815 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,640 And I was like, that's a great question. 816 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,920 I don't know, But I do. And I'm like, or, you know, or I 817 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,720 said, I said I was a hater. I know I'm a hater. 818 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,680 I can't help it. I have favorites. 819 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960 I'm sorry. And then it was kind of like it 820 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,120 was a little bit awkward. It was awkward for me, but 821 00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:39,000 that's OK. I don't think you can say if you 822 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,920 have an honest opinion about something and it's not like all 823 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,000 cherries and rainbows the way other podcasts are, you can 824 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,040 decide who those are. But if you if you want to speak 825 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,360 honestly about people, and you have favorites and you want to 826 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,640 root for people, and you're an analyst. 827 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,000 You got to make picks. Yeah, you got to make picks and 828 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,360 you got to have favorites. And I use my heart a lot more 829 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,920 than I use the computer. And you got to look those people 830 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,160 in the eye, you know what I mean? 831 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,640 And it's and it's awkward, but you still got to look them in 832 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,680 the eye and say, hey, I'm, I'm sorry, but that I talk the way I 833 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,440 talk sometimes, like I. Mean. 834 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,920 And I tell you, I I was a parking lot meeting with Tia 835 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,560 with being like, God, are you trying to tell me I need to dial 836 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,440 it back? Because it was like it was like 837 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,040 3 people in a row and then the rest of the rest of the event 838 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,800 was great. Rest of the event was great, but 839 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,760 so that was fun and it was fun to talk to them. 840 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,720 And then Keeper Lamy, you know Kiefer. 841 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,080 Yeah, I know him from Instagram. I've messaged or I've talked. 842 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,760 I think I've messaged him before he introduced himself. 843 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,040 He's got blonde hair now. I didn't know that. 844 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,680 I didn't know he was that tall. I've never met him in my life 845 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,880 and I didn't. And I didn't know he was. 846 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,800 I didn't know that he was Kiefer. 847 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,280 And then we're talking and he asked me who I thought could win 848 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,160 the deadlift. And I'm saying, well, there's 849 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,000 like 4 girls, right? And then Riddle them off. 850 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,720 And then I go, and then, I mean Alex. 851 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,520 Alex is good too. He goes, oh, we know we we 852 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,600 manage her. And I was like, oh, OK And then 853 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,600 I left and then And then it just dawned on me, I think that was 854 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,640 Keeper. And then I like, look up Keeper 855 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,240 shirt up it is. He's got his bright blonde hair 856 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:24,320 though. I didn't know. 857 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,240 I didn't know. It was like it threw me for all 858 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,120 I could see was the hair. And and then I messaged him. 859 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,200 I was like, hey, my bad, man, I didn't even it didn't register 860 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,520 and then, but it was all good. It was all good. 861 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,360 I met. Myself, a couple times I met 862 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,400 Jake Marconi. He's a super nice guy. 863 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,840 Rich is a super nice guy. His he had a Paige Powers suite, 864 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:53,280 was right next to my gym and and Rich was up there. 865 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,360 I don't just probably just talking with people that he 866 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,520 knows. And then this girl that I'm 867 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,280 with, her name, Summer, she's one of the girls at my gym, one 868 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,600 of my barbell girls, so. She's. 869 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,560 In the in the barbell club so rich Rich looks at us. 870 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,320 I I don't know if he knows who I am at all but like he's seen me 871 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,000 around but like I don't know. I don't know if he knows me at 872 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,560 all but he was like hey guys how you doing? 873 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,120 Like just real out spoken and and I was like Rich you know 874 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,040 that was all I see but but she was starstruck like. 875 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,680 Yeah, Richard said. Hi. 876 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:29,680 Yeah. Yeah, And I mean, he was super 877 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,040 nice. So everybody was super nice. 878 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:35,680 Yeah, Met a lot of people. Really. 879 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,960 It was really fun. The sweets are the way to go. 880 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,040 I'm telling like if people want to know. 881 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,520 It was what What did your your gym got one right? 882 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,440 Yeah, and it was, it was, I think it was like $400.00 or 883 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,400 something. For a ticket I did not spend 884 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:51,680 that much, but for everybody else, it was like $400. 885 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,760 But it was worth it because when it was hot, it was cold in 886 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040 there, and when it was cold it was hot in there. 887 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,800 And all of the people that are big names like the hard work 888 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,720 pays off. Crew was 2 sweets from us, 889 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,000 talked through the chipper with Josh Bridges and that was pretty 890 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,480 cool. Like we made our picks. 891 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,080 I told everybody that Roman was going to win by 10 seconds not 892 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,720 realizing everybody's rooting for Hopper in that whole suite. 893 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,600 I I don't connect things very, very well. 894 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,080 I get like I I really didn't I didn't realize like Brian and 895 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,760 Brian sets me up. He's such a Dick. 896 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,480 Brian Brian goes or he goes you got you got Roman or hopper I go 897 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:38,760 Roman by 10 seconds said it loud for the whole suite to hear and 898 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,000 and then O'Keefe was like all right well you can leave. 899 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,720 OK. Oh, no. 900 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,360 Every everything was fine. It was fine. 901 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,920 Yeah, I mean, I think that's, you know, when you go and do 902 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,160 rank all 20 athletes, only one can be first, right? 903 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,440 And like when you start having it, like we had Shelby Neal on 904 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,920 on Wednesday and then we go rank and we have her down in the 905 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,040 bottom like bottom 5, right? Like the athletes are going to 906 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,000 finish like you have to do, you're you're you got to be 907 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,360 real, right. And like it doesn't make 908 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,600 everybody happy. I can't say. 909 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,160 Right, Yeah. And so it it just is what it is. 910 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,320 And then if you do see somebody or that you do communicate like 911 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,920 Lazar wasn't thrilled with with you. 912 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,320 Right now. And to fight me and, and I mean, 913 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:35,160 I was right and I'm sorry Lazar, but until you prove me wrong, 914 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,400 like I'm going to keep on saying that stuff. 915 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,040 Yeah, and it wasn't like you were crazy. 916 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560 I mean, they were all three, which is wild. 917 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,800 They're all three within. It was wild. 918 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,040 It was wild that they were. All three that close, you know? 919 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,960 You have an opinion of Lazar versus BKG and and Chandler and 920 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,400 Tyler had a different vision of that. 921 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,920 Turns out it was a pretty good bet. 922 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,680 And they were very, very good kind. 923 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,320 Of on the money, right with him too, though. 924 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,880 Like it wasn't out of the realm of possibility. 925 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,640 Absolutely Menopause and metcons 499. 926 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,600 Thank you. Thank you haters for bringing 927 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,480 blunt evaluation of performance and programming. 928 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,920 Appreciate it. Try our best. 929 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,360 Hey John, do you know that Ariel works out in her garage? 930 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,960 That's she, really. She does. 931 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,040 That's crazy. She does. 932 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,120 Yeah. Yeah, did. 933 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,400 You did. Is she? 934 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,080 She's a mom too. She is. 935 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,240 She is a mom. Yeah, pretty wild. 936 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,560 Trish Bushi, 7th and shot caller. 937 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:40,640 Yeah, I get Adm from every single person that's beating me. 938 00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:42,120 I'm pretty. Positive. 939 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,800 I have like 9 DMS all about shot caller and I was 16th. 940 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,840 I was 16th in the whole thing. I got 9 DMS about. 941 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,560 You got to be only we start. We started with six foot 8. 942 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,760 Crossfitter was he beat? Me. 943 00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,920 Yeah. Yeah, he he's good. 944 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,760 Although I'm telling you, if I didn't, Velner really screwed me 945 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,600 over or I'd have 40 more points. I mean, I should have just, I 946 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,320 should have went with tutor. I should have played it safe. 947 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,320 And I didn't. I didn't. 948 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,000 Daniel, you don't even need a private suite. 949 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,520 I sat in the Intel area, which is a public suite with 40 of 950 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,960 your new best friends. Not sure where that is. 951 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,640 Lift. Eat. 952 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,360 Sleep. Repeat. 953 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,840 Would athlete who did not compete would have done well 954 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,560 with this year's programming. I don't. 955 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,720 Know Mal O'Brien? That's a tough one. 956 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,880 I'm. Trying to think of Justin 957 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,680 Maderos. I mean the best guy. 958 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,160 Yeah. I don't know if there's anybody 959 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,520 that I would say. I mean, maybe Tim Paulson might 960 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,960 have been had a few, no? Way bro. 961 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,040 I'm just trying, trying to think of somebody that's not Mal 962 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,520 O'Brien or. Justin Maderos would have done 963 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,880 what there isn't. This is all the best people. 964 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,320 In the world. Yeah, like, I don't even think, 965 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,640 like, Colton probably wouldn't have done great on this. 966 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,120 He he would have done good at the deadlift. 967 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,280 He would have the squat bar muscle workout if he can get 968 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,320 over it. Yeah. 969 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,760 The handstand push up room. Colt Merns Colt Merns would have 970 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,880 done well at this competition. I'd say he'd get like 11th of 971 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,480 11th is well that's I think he that's where he'd be. 972 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:37,400 What about Alexis or Annie? I mean, yeah, sure. 973 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,400 I don't think they would have. I don't think that either would 974 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,920 have been on the podium. No, but I mean, again, you're 975 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,960 naming top ten people. Brooke Wells, Emmett All. 976 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,160 OK, bottom 10 people. What about? 977 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,320 What do you think about this? No Americans on either of the 978 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,280 podiums. Was there any Americans on the 979 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:06,720 podium at the Games? Yeah. 980 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,920 Ariel. Ariel. 981 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,560 That's the only one. Yeah. 982 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,440 Well, Ariel Owen was our only hope for Rogue Invitational. 983 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:22,080 It makes sense. Yeah, Richie Rich was fourth in 984 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,440 shot caller and would have been second and I've been 3 seconds 985 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,760 faster and changing although I'm. 986 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,400 Supremely annoyed that Tyler made it where you could select 987 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,480 anybody at any time, because I would argue that is where I 988 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,120 catch ground on everybody else. Five of the pick. 989 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,600 Yeah, you. Remember when I say champions 990 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,360 are made on Sunday, like when you when you can just pick 991 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,480 whoever you want to pick the whole entire time. 992 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,080 That's defeats the purpose of the game. 993 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,960 You got to be smart and and like I was playing it that way until 994 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,720 like the 4th event and then I found out oh you can just. 995 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,880 Keep picking. Yeah, and I I think that takes 996 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,080 away from the game, but it's. OK. 997 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,280 Yeah. Yeah. 998 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,840 All right. I think it was a good recap 999 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,400 show. We'll be back on Wednesday. 1000 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,880 Hopefully Tyler will be back. It's been wedding weekend, so 1001 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,600 he's kind of been offline. But John, appreciate you 1002 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,600 jumping, jumping back on when you got back in, back at home 1003 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,400 and thanks everybody for watching and back. 1004 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,240 Wednesday, yeah. Absolutely. 1005 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,400 I guess do you want to recap the bets on Wednesday or you want to 1006 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,440 do that now can? I we'll we'll recap it because 1007 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,640 Tyler needs to. Tyler is the big loser Really 1008 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,440 quick. Can I hear? 1009 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,960 Can I hear the? So the the first one was BKG or 1010 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,240 Lazar. BKG wins Chandler Smith or 1011 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,480 Lazar, you won that. Travis Mayer in the top ten. 1012 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,120 You won that. What was the last one? 1013 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,840 He didn't pick Travis Mayor to be the top 10. 1014 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,560 That was me. Oh, you OK? 1015 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:08,600 That that was that was me. And the last one was Chandler 1016 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,680 Smith finishes outside the top five. 1017 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,000 Tyler. So Tyler wins that one. 1018 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,000 OK. So you're 3 and 1, two and one 1019 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,760 against Tyler, one and O versus me. 1020 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,280 Not bad. Not bad, yeah. 1021 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,920 And one reminder go make sure you watch the Bears and Tyson 1022 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:31,920 Beigeant if you keep an eye out. Travis Beigeant has a suite 1023 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,400 there and I think Sivan and Hiller will be hanging out. 1024 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,640 Yes, in the suite. So I think they will be getting 1025 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,240 some right, Yeah. Pan over to him. 100% Yeah. 1026 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,920 I guarantee Travis gets on quite a few times, especially if if 1027 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,440 Tyson does well. Tysons just tore his Achilles, 1028 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,600 so I'm going to have to find something else to root for so I 1029 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,120 can't root for my Vikings anymore. 1030 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,280 So I hope Tyson's the real deal. There you go. 1031 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,440 All right guys, until Wednesday. We'll see you later. 1032 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:08,920 Bye.