1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:03,680 All right. Good evening, everybody. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,840 John was here for a minute and now. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,400 It bounced back off. Some waffles? 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,760 I don't know. Good evening, everybody. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,920 Sabir and Kelly first. They beat Rambler. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Rambler, be first in the comments. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,600 I can almost guarantee that. Wad Zombie. 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,440 Hello, Trish. A different Trish. 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,120 Congrats on the West, John. What? 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,480 What W? This afternoon What What were 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,040 you doing this afternoon that you may have won some 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,480 competition? Against oh, workout. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Oh, Peterson. We knew. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,360 We knew that was going. To happen Humble humility. 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Hey, you know what's fun? Me. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,760 And I'm hoping spin wins. I don't know. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,480 I'd like to talk with down too, but spins on the next one? 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,880 It'd be funny if it ends up just being a spin show, you know what 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,400 I mean? Tyler, That's on one of these 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,080 things. And then we, if the three of us, 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:05,920 can. I don't think. 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,920 I don't think Tyler's on the 3rd. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,680 I don't think Tyler's on the third week, is he? 24 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:10,760 I'm not. I haven't. 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Peter has not invited me to that. 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,040 I wonder why? Yeah, just be be stubborn. 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,600 I will say I was I was very frightened with the questions 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,720 because other than the open, I have no nothing to contribute 29 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,800 with those other two questions like that's you got you got Aceo 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,360 talking about how to make profit in events. 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,080 What am I going to say? That he doesn't know? 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,720 You know what I mean? Like I I have. 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,400 Oh, you, you. Sponsored every big competition, 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,120 knows what, so Rock knows more than what we do on the costs and 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,560 what he's been putting into. You didn't give them their your 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,760 off site events pitch. Well, what is that pitch? 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,440 For Palooza, you saying we just go off site? 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,800 All we gotta do is just yeah, yeah. 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,000 The venue's lined up all across Miami. 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,560 No, I tried to think. I tried to think of like, OK, 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,880 well what what can I contribute to this conversation that those 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,840 other guys are are not going to, you know what I'm saying? 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Like, try to put my lens on it when I was willing to be up 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,360 base, which they were both like, yeah, that's not going to 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,000 happen, bro, whatever you're talking about. 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,080 But luckily for me, it sounded good enough that that Peter 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,240 liked it, and that's all that counts. 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,040 That's all that matters. Just got to convince Pedro. 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 All right, good show lined up for you guys. 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,040 We got some viewer comments. You guys were much better on the 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,800 comments. So if you're watching, you're 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,480 not subscribing. First subscribe, then go drop 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,360 down and drop some comments and we'll read them off. 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:53,800 My favorite ones next week. Then John is back, this time 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,280 with a comeback Canyon. There's a little bit of a little 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,400 bit of a teaser there on the the thumbnail, so if you saw that a 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,960 few guesses I've had, they were all wrong. 58 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,200 So we'll see if you guys can guess who is on the Comeback 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Canyon. Blind rankings are coming up. 60 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,280 These guys don't even know the topic yet, so it is Roman. 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,560 Empire. Is that the topic? 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,720 And then the last one is Roman Empire. 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,760 So if you guys are big tik tokers, the Roman Empire are big 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,920 thoughts on what what what we've been thinking about as it 65 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:33,120 relates to CrossFit. So anything is game. 66 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,320 We'll see what you guys come up with. 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,680 So all right, reading the comments, so. 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Did I send you anything for that, Brian? 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,720 No, you better have some for. The Roman Empire. 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,160 I got it. Oh, gosh. 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,480 And my, my thing is the first thing. 72 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,240 OK, I'll figure it out. I'll go, I'll figure it out. 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,360 I'm going to go off the cuff on it, but I'll figure it out. 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 I've got a lot to deal with the last couple days. 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's rattled his. 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,000 His big day to? Get ready for around the white 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,760 board and just skips on preparing for. 78 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Us do OK at the fittest experience and I just have to 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,680 contribute to everything else. It's OK, It's OK. 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,560 I'll be fine. It'll be fine, isn't it? 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,440 Isn't it deloaded week? You don't have to do anything 82 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,000 this week. No, I tested a couple of the 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,040 work, at least today was my last. 84 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Day OK Sam J 6846 Jeff wins the games. 85 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Pat wins Rogue, Roman wins Dubai and Ricky wins Watapalooza. 86 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:38,600 I know everyone has seems to have their winner penciled in 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,760 for 2024 but it's shaping up to be an exciting games. 88 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:50,440 I don't think you can call it. Yeah, I I mean, when you when 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,520 you read it that way, like I think we all kind of knew it. 90 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,480 But to actually list it off as the four big competitions and 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,640 four different winners. Yeah, it's all over the place. 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Yeah, I was thinking about Ricky today. 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,560 I mean, like if he had hit a better snap, like if he just had 94 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,840 overhead squatted, he won. He won handily. 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,760 Yeah, but you know, yeah. He he still did. 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,520 I mean he obviously quant. Handily. 97 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,320 Quant was there, but he he was in control. 98 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,640 That whole last event so. I mean, you can make an argument 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,520 about the events being having changed and all that stuff, but 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,440 I mean like still those are fitness events and I don't know, 101 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,280 I like. I don't think it would have 102 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:38,640 changed. I think he probably would have 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,800 been as good or better in some of them before they were 104 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:48,120 changed. Jackie, Millie 2805, the comment 105 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,600 that we talked, what we talked about last week about leaving 106 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,840 versus staying at home is interesting. 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,000 All of the young people did not go to college, which is why many 108 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,800 of them are homesick. Moving to another state at 17 109 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,360 without having a tangible purpose like getting a degree is 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,840 probably really hard. That being said that way, some 111 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,720 people like Danielle have said they like to move, travel and 112 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,440 meet new people, but those are who are returning home. 113 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,320 Did not go to boarding school or university. 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Just my thought, are boarding. Schools still a thing? 115 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Maybe. Yeah, like. 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,400 Private schools. Yeah, but boarding schools where 117 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,480 you stay there all the time. Oh. 118 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,360 I think there's some. I know there's one in New 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Mexico. As crazy as it sounds, I 120 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,280 actually had to visit Roswell, NM and there's a huge boarding 121 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:39,360 school in Roswell I. Mean There's like all boys and 122 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,400 all girls like preparatory schools. 123 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,160 Yeah, potatoes. Sleep there. 124 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,920 Yeah. Sure. 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Yes, mostly the Northeast, OK. I can see it in the Northeast, 126 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,760 that's. Where all the rich kids go. 127 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:01,240 They're called prep schools now. OK, Tyler from Cameron. 128 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,480 Are we going to see Heat One for the Open or quarterfinals this 129 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,040 year? Yes and yes, where we landed on 130 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,960 how we're going to pull that off today. 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,000 So we're in in high gear to get that into the app as fast as we 132 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,640 can. John's helping out a little bit 133 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,240 with it. Making Adam work for it? 134 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Yeah, Christian Kettler, 3667 by the By the Games 2025 underdogs 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,600 will be, if they aren't already, the best camp in the space. 136 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Agree. Disagree. 137 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,480 By 2025. Yes. 138 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,160 So not this year, but the following year. 139 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,760 I think they will say where they are. 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:50,480 I think they are one of the best camps in the CrossFit space. 141 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,000 I don't think you can declare your camp the best camp in the 142 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,280 CrossFit space unless it's like unless it's like clear cut. 143 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,480 Because you can always frame somebody. 144 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,000 You can always frame another camp in a certain light. 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Like, yeah, Brute sent five people to the Games and four of 146 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,120 those five were top ten athletes, or three of those five 147 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,840 were top ten athletes. That's hard to beat. 148 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,400 But you know, underdogs this year might have the CrossFit 149 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Games champion and a podium athlete. 150 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,440 You know what I mean? Like, so I'll say this, I say if 151 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Alex Kazan and Ricky Gerard can never win the games together in 152 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,640 the same year, then Underdogs has pulled off something that no 153 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,360 other camp has ever been able to pull off. 154 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,320 And I think that would be pretty crazy. 155 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,880 It's not going to happen this year. 156 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,720 So Ricky, you better win a couple years in a row because 157 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,040 you got Alex has to catch up. Prove it'll have a coffee shop 158 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,240 though. Mayhem's already got one. 159 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Suck it. I'll have a pretty cool one 160 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,440 though, so. Yeah, I what's best to to me 161 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,800 that's. Yeah, what's best, That's true. 162 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,280 But Mayhem will always have the most pool. 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,680 You know, Mayhem has the biggest empire. 164 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,200 Proven has Tia and Mertens. You know what I mean? 165 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,120 He's just the biggest Tia. Day 2 for Mertens, right? 166 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Day 2, you know, so I it's your definition of what's best. 167 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,520 But I like what I'm saying though is I think, I think 168 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Underdogs is the only camp that has that could do what I just 169 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,440 put out there. Like have a guy and a girl in 170 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,360 the same camp win the games. And that's hard to argue with I 171 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,760 think because it's too, you know it's different people. 172 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,200 It's not like you got lucky with one person, right? 173 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Yeah, I'm sure. I mean when Pedro wrote who did 174 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,400 the best, which camp had the best, like semi finals and then 175 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,760 they qualified for the games that got everybody riled up. 176 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,280 So maybe I'll get him to write another one. 177 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Another article for us. Last one here watching this a 178 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:05,760 bit late. This is from Aha 8008, but as of 179 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,600 now Victor Hoffer is on Teneriff, the Spanish island 180 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,160 with Yon Koski and a few others. Doesn't seem like a HWPO gig, so 181 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,440 he likes this show. The most watchable in the 182 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,080 CrossFit space right now, So just. 183 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Nice most watchable award I saw. Victor. 184 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Yeah, that's from some other person that was saying that 185 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:29,640 Victor and Yanukovsky and a few others are training on some 186 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Spanish island. Oh, those are two separate 187 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,200 comment. Yeah, yeah. 188 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:33,640 OK. OK. 189 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,040 So I I just like the last comment so. 190 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,120 Yeah. Thanks. 191 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,400 I saw this thing called the Webbies or something like that. 192 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,120 It's like an award for Internet content producers. 193 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,800 So we win the What was it? What was our award right there? 194 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,520 The Wednesday night CrossFit Space Show. 195 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,800 The best, the best one on Wednesday night. 196 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,960 The best The best. Wednesday night at 6:30 Central. 197 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,920 CrossFit Show. We have it on lockdown. 198 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,240 I'm honored. So again, if you are watching 199 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,640 this later or have a comment, throw it down there. 200 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:14,320 We'll catch up on it next week. John, Are you ready for some? 201 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,920 All right, here we go. What's the preface? 202 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,680 OK. The way I looked at it was, I 203 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:27,000 thought so if you're further down the Canyon, like you are 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,640 low and you can come back high, but you have more of a comeback 205 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,200 to be had. That's that's kind of how I 206 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,320 prefaced it. So that's the nicest way to 207 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 phrase that, yeah, yeah. Right. 208 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,080 But but no, no, no. But but like, I also thought 209 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,640 about like, are you capable of that comeback? 210 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,600 You know what I mean? So. 211 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Everybody in the Canyon is capable to you. 212 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Yes, I think everybody in the Canyon can come back. 213 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,760 But some have a bigger climb than others. 214 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,120 And but some have a bigger climb than and what I'm saying is so 215 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,960 like if you didn't make the games and you can go like top 216 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,840 ten in the games, that's an enormous comeback, right? 217 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Whereas if you were 13th in the Games and you can come back and 218 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,320 get 4th, that's that's still a comeback, right? 219 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,520 Especially if you're a podium material, because I feel like 220 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,280 those are held in rare air. It's just not as big of a 221 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,080 comeback, so you don't have as much of A climb. 222 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Does that make sense? OK, so we'll start with the top 223 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:33,280 row. Easiest comeback? 224 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,920 And. We'll start, we'll start here. 225 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,000 So Luka Jukic is off by himself. And then we have, we have Jason 226 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,560 Hopper, Amanda Barnhart, Sam Quant, Emma McQuaid and Justin 227 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:50,880 Maderos on the top row. This is a row right here. 228 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:56,440 What's going on with Luca? So Luca, it, you know, it was 229 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,560 brought to my attention about Luca as far as. 230 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,320 But here's the thing I think he can make. 231 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Who brought that attention, right? 232 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,400 He did. He did. 233 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,520 But. But here, here, here's the 234 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,080 thing. Like, I agree with him. 235 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,360 You know what I mean? Like I I don't think it's much 236 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,200 of A comeback. But you know, if you go from not 237 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,800 making the games, making the games, you know what I mean? 238 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,040 You're going to be I'm, I'm for it, right? 239 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,840 But like, I don't think, like, I think if I think when he makes 240 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,240 it, he's going to be like 20th to 30th, I don't think it's 241 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,480 going to be anything special. So now, Luca, you get top 20, 242 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,120 then you should have been further down the Canyon because 243 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,760 you made a bigger comeback, right? 244 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,520 So. But I agree with him. 245 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:41,760 I think he's games material, so he can be on the comeback 246 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,320 candidate for sure Now the other people. 247 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,960 And Luca, he basically wins every offseason. 248 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,720 I don't care about those. Good. 249 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Do do what against people who matter. 250 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Do what it makes more. Money. 251 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,920 Than that's cool. Come to the games with money in 252 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,320 your pockets, but do it against people who matter. 253 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,200 If you want respect. As far as like this guy's crazy 254 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,480 fit. Listen, if I have a, if I have a 255 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,960 competition with Tyler every single week and then I say, man, 256 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,280 I've done 50 competitions this year and I've won 48 of them. 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,440 What are you trying to say? Does it matter? 258 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,720 Because I'm against. Yeah, right. 259 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,480 Respect doesn't pay the. Bills, dude, we are one and one 260 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,320 in quarterfinals. I'm no, take that back. 261 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,560 I've made two quarterfinals and you want to make. 262 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,680 One, you want to make a bet on this quarterfinals. 263 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,520 No. Right. 264 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,600 I'm talking straight Perkins, man. 265 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,520 I'm not talking about did you make it or not? 266 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,280 OK, it takes me a while to make stuff, but once I get there, I 267 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,240 show out OK. I'm a game day player. 268 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,560 I'm legitimate, man. I've been playing this game a 269 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,280 long time. I made. 270 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Every I just I just have AI have a longer trip to get to the game 271 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,280 but once I get there once I get there I'm I'm I'm decent anyway. 272 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:02,480 But I I accept his criteria I I I do. 273 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,240 I do think he's a capable of this and I I agree with him I 274 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,440 didn't have him on there originally Luca so and you know 275 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,120 what prove me wrong. Get top 20. 276 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,360 OK. But until you beat somebody that 277 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,080 matters. I don't care what you do in the 278 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,080 offseason beat somebody that maps. 279 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,560 I don't care how much money you got. 280 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Show me that you could beat people that map anyway. 281 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:28,880 Scratch Hopper. Some could argue he could have 282 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,520 been a little bit lower on the Canyon. 283 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,120 But here's the thing, here's the thing. 284 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Hopper is like that kid that goes to the Grand Canyon and 285 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,080 then like wanders off from his parents and then falls down the 286 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,280 Canyon and then gets back and then climbs all the way back up 287 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,160 to the top, to the top of the Canyon. 288 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,440 And his dad is so mad that he fell down the Canyon, that his 289 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,120 bad B and Fraser and then kicks him down the Canyon again. 290 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,960 And that's where he's at. Can he come back? 291 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Can Jr. pull him back out of the Canyon? 292 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,080 We'll see. Barnhart. 293 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:07,800 I think Barnhart just had, you know, Barnhart wasn't as good as 294 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,800 she normally is. But she's been dealing with 295 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 injuries. She had a big life change. 296 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,840 I think she can come back. Same with Quant. 297 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,160 He didn't have changes in his life, but he we're accustomed to 298 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,640 him being better. And then when he can get second 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,200 in water, Palooza like bro, be better, You know what I mean? 300 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,400 You're capable of being better. Be better. 301 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Emma McQuaid was hurt. I think she's a top 25 ish games 302 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,440 athlete. Top 20 games athlete. 303 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,560 I think that's where she belongs. 304 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,400 You know how there's a tier after the top 10 to 10 through 305 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,920 20, how there's a tier of ladies depending on the programming? 306 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,680 I think she's in that tier so she deserves. 307 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,280 And again, this is the top row of the comeback Canyon, right? 308 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,240 There's not a there's not a big comeback to be had. 309 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,000 So think about that. Have that thought going in, 310 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,720 Justin. Maybe don't reckon to Luke Lazar 311 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,079 twice, you know what I mean? Just, you know, drive your bike 312 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:07,599 a little bit better. I don't know what to tell you, 313 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:12,560 Justin, but you're better than what you were just. 314 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,200 Throw that in. There, I think you're. 315 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,480 I think you're capable to get Tier 1 pollution. 316 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,119 Oh, God. OK, I think you're better than 317 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,440 13th place, right? So I I think that Justin gets 318 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,600 top five and like I think he'll be fifth place is what I think. 319 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,720 But I think he's that's where he should belong, is in that 320 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,080 conversation of the top five guys. 321 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,160 And if if he's not, then the comeback, he's still in the 322 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Canyon, all right. I have a couple of comments 323 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,200 slash questions. Go ahead, spin. 324 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 You're going to bring up people. 'S first before you get going 325 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,080 wad Zombie 499. Thank you. 326 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Tyler's accent gets thicker and more triggered. 327 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,920 He gets. Yeah, you should see me drink 328 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,880 about. Understandable. 329 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Pedro, how slippery is this Canyon? 330 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,200 You think? Like, are we talking like just 331 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,200 after a rain there's just mud everywhere? 332 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Or is it kind of stable? Or is it person dependent? 333 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,440 A person dependent, you know. Some are more athletic than 334 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,320 others. Some can slip on the rocks and 335 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:19,040 catch themselves, and some can slip on dry dirt and fall all 336 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,760 the way down that little Creek that's down there. 337 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,840 Fair enough. I like that there's a. 338 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,560 Creek some some just drive their bike straight off of the Canyon 339 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,920 into the Creek, You know like like, I mean we'll we'll get 340 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,960 there. I like that there is a Creek at 341 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,800 the bottom, 'cause you could, you could, you could get washed 342 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,320 away. You could. 343 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,080 You could. Get down there and you can't. 344 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,120 Ever come back, feel better, Hope he never ends up in the 345 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:43,840 Canyon, 'cause I don't know if he's going to be able to swim 346 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:49,800 out. Amanda Barnhart, I don't know if 347 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,120 you guys have been following her, her Instagram. 348 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:55,400 She was just doing like, I don't think she could do marine muscle 349 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,760 UPS right now. And like kipping chest of our 350 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,240 pull ups was difficult. So that's a tough one. 351 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:06,360 That one might be a game in the Canyon, Yeah, at least at this 352 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:08,880 point. Now she probably can make it 353 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,400 through it regardless. Well. 354 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,880 Listen, this isn't a guarantee that they're going to be able to 355 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,800 climb out. It's just I think they're 356 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,520 capable of climbing out of the Canyon. 357 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:26,080 I love questions like this. Maybe, like we're we're just 358 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,080 throwing out the ideas. Why not? 359 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:31,960 Sorry, did you did you bring one up? 360 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,680 You know next you want to go next row. 361 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Yeah, we'll go next row. All right. 362 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,360 We got Danny Spiegel, Haley Adams and Jacqueline Dahlstrom. 363 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,880 All right, these three girls took a trip together to the 364 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Canyon, to the Grand Canyon, just to look at all of the 365 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,400 peasants that are down there, right? 366 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Not to fall down, but they got pulled down and they didn't make 367 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,160 the games, right? So these three girls, I know, 368 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,720 Haley, for different reasons, but all are capable of coming 369 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,200 back and making the games, and they did not make the games 370 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,320 previous. So that's why they're in this 371 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,160 tier. As long as Jack and Dahlstrom 372 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,800 does not get placed in lane 8:00, as long as Danny Spiegel. 373 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,400 I don't, you know, just train more. 374 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,520 And then and then I think Haley's going to be a beast. 375 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,760 I know you don't like the Tyler. I know you hate Haley Adams, but 376 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,920 I don't hate her. I know that you. 377 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,840 I know that you wish she fell down this cane and drowned and 378 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,280 never came back, Tyler. But I like Haley Adams, and I 379 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,480 think she's going to be a monster. 380 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,000 So. It'd be a lot better for my 381 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,920 predictions, but. That that is this category. 382 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,360 It's just these three women did not make the games and I think 383 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,760 that are capable of making the games. 384 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,400 This is like, I'm not feeling good about about these, like 385 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,600 this is real close to the bottom. 386 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,880 So it's like Dahlstrom. I don't, I don't feel great 387 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,320 about her getting back to the games. 388 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,360 Do you? No, I I agree. 389 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,000 But I do think she's capable. Listen like. 390 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,600 Who's more capable? Sometimes are harder than 391 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720 others. Who's more than most Spiegel? 392 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,880 Spiegel or Dahlstrom? I think we can all, I think we 393 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,240 all would say Haley's probably. The most likely Who's more 394 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,120 likely to make the games? Yes, between I. 395 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:20,160 Think I think you'd have to say Spiegel, but I mean, 396 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Jacqueline's been there 3 * 2 or three times. 397 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,160 You know when you're a perennial games athlete, I don't want to 398 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,920 bet against you. But Danny Spiegel's also, you 399 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,480 know, a perennial games athlete. So I it's hard to say. 400 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,760 I think it depends on the programming. 401 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,040 I hate, I hate that answer. It's such a cop out answer. 402 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,200 But I really, really do. You know there's a high volume 403 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,200 gymnastics work out that Dahlstrom's going to be easy 404 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,680 money on and not a Max snatch, you know? 405 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,120 I like that we haven't seen much from Jackie thus far as she's. 406 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:54,320 She's in the dungeon. She's in the dungeon, the HWPO. 407 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,920 Dungeon. Is she still? 408 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,720 Is she still a Singleton? Yeah, no, she's H she's. 409 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,160 Proven she's HWPO training, but I assume she's still with John. 410 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,440 But no, I meant not. Not for the training, yeah. 411 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Relationship wise, yes. All right, I hope that he put a 412 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,360 runner in her bedroom and just put the a tape on there that 413 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:15,760 says the worst. Runner he can buy. 414 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,840 So, so, like, so, like, mentally. 415 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,560 And she runs on it every single day and then, like comes back 416 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,040 looking like freaking what country is she from? 417 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Norway. The Norwegian form of Rocky. 418 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,800 Is it Norway? I want to get that right. 419 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,360 I don't want to call her the wrong country. 420 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,400 I will find out here soon if you're. 421 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Wrong. Oh, you guys don't know. 422 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,880 Come on. Or didn't do it. 423 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,680 Yeah. I think it's Norway. 424 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,200 Yeah. Jackie's from France. 425 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,680 No, no. Yes. 426 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Dude. She's French. 427 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,680 Where you at, Patrick? We need ya. 428 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,680 I my gut says Spiegel. But we've seen too much of 429 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,400 Spiegel and I like people in the dungeon. 430 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Tyler's You're nuts. She's from Norway. 431 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,280 Yeah. Does Daostrom sound French to 432 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600 you, bro? When she speaks, she does. 433 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,120 All right, I'm just going to default. 434 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,400 OK. We're going to move on with that 435 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:16,480 one. Next row we got two on here, 436 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,640 Brooke Wells and Gina Heroes. Now these are you're getting. 437 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,920 Real close to the Creek, you're getting real. 438 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Close. These are two people that did 439 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,920 not make the games, but probably, but probably should, 440 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,280 right? Like they, their fitness are 441 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,160 both, they're both good enough to be top 20 in the games, 442 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,840 right? I get he has to be a little bit 443 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,240 lucky with the programming to get top 20, but he gets home run 444 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,760 hits like he's bound to get Kenneth. 445 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,280 I don't disagree with you, but he deserves to be there. 446 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:59,160 Sorry, he got me on that. One, you know, so like, I think 447 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,080 if he makes the games, he'll be top 20. 448 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,480 I think if Brooke makes the game, she'll be top, honestly, 449 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,320 top 15. So that's why they're lower on 450 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,040 this lit in the Canyon, because they will climb further than the 451 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,760 three above them, you know, I think Haley will be better than 452 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Brooke. That's not what I'm saying. 453 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,760 But like this group as a whole, I think will be better than the 454 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,320 group above them if should they make the games. 455 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,960 How did Gee do it and how did he finish in water pools? 456 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,920 I can't remember. 8th. Yeah. 457 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,680 But he had a Max snatch that's automatic, 100 points. 458 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,800 And then he's a he's a good, he's a good swimmer and then 459 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,920 they'd like he had two events that he was going to do really 460 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,680 well, like automatic really well. 461 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,920 So in in a five event contest I don't think he gets 8th. 462 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,480 If you make him do 15 events, do. 463 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,800 Do you think it's guaranteed that Haley is finishes better at 464 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,520 the games than Brooke? Yes. 465 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,240 Brooke had the better finish two years ago. 466 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,440 That's cool. Just saying. 467 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,640 I think Haley's top ten in the games. 468 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,880 I don't think Brooke is top ten at the. 469 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,440 Game You don't think she'll get back into the top 10? 470 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,120 Nope. I like I. 471 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,920 Like, I think Brooke will be fringe, fringe on the fringe. 472 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,760 So I I say no confidently. But like, I'm talking and like I 473 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:27,840 I think she'll be like 12. I think Haley will be like 7th. 474 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560 And I know that doesn't sound very far away, but in my head 475 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,960 they're two different tiers, like Brooks and that Paige 476 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,200 powers tier, Haley's in that Alexis Raptis tier. 477 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,080 They're different. I know their their placement's 478 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,440 not different, but they're different. 479 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,200 I I can't disagree with Jon on this one. 480 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,280 Go ahead, You really think so? I I tend to leave Haley's 481 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,680 playing with Jon in this, yeah. I mean, if if Brooke doesn't 482 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,440 have a whatever ankle foot injury and she qualifies, I 483 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,360 think she does. She does fine. 484 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,800 About where she was last time. Yeah, but Brian, if if a frog 485 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,000 had wings, he wouldn't bump his butt when he jumps. 486 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,800 You know what I mean? It happens. 487 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,640 I know, but I'm saying that I don't think her fitness has 488 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,400 decreased in the last two years. No, but we we, we we're 489 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280 consistently having injuries pop up. 490 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760 And go ahead. Greater frequency. 491 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,560 That's all I was going to say. They they're they're starting to 492 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,680 happen on consistency. Now she's rowing all day with 493 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,200 HWPO, so she'll be fine. Oh. 494 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,400 And I think it takes a toll mentally. 495 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,040 I know, I know we're dealing with Haley, but like, I I think, 496 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,240 I don't know. I just feel like Haley's will be 497 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,160 mentally tougher than Brooke on game day. 498 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,000 And I mean, that's speaking out of pocket. 499 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,960 And I have no idea. But that's just how I feel. 500 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,800 Haley, to me, just seems like a different tier of athlete than 501 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,520 Brooke does. Maybe I'm wrong. 502 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:59,600 I don't put it past myself. But for me she is. 503 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480 I think for Haley, it's going to be very dependent on the 504 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,680 programming if she makes it back to the games of where she 505 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600 finishes. In semi finals. 506 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,040 No, back to the games. So I think semi finals should be 507 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040 fine, but when when you make it to the games, I think she's more 508 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800 dependent on the programming than say, Brooke is. 509 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,720 We'll see. And it's inside. 510 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040 So again, I don't know what that means from a programming 511 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,680 standpoint. Couple comments here. 512 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,920 See Hill, Hal or Mal, Haley and Brooke in the same division. 513 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000 So that's three spots. Who didn't make it? 514 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Who did this past year? First comments, we don't know. 515 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,760 First of all, we don't know if Mal's competing. 516 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,640 Second of all, if she does, I think she's been in Iowa and 517 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,120 living at home, which would mean she's in the West. 518 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,680 And y'all, notice Mal is not on this Canyon. 519 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,280 Not yet, anyway. She's not on there. 520 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,360 She done what washed away. Spoiler. 521 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840 Yeah, Mal, Mal has. He's in the power boat. 522 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,960 Yeah, no, there's no boat. The boat didn't get there on 523 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,080 time. She doesn't run off in the power 524 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:17,160 boat. LDY 2742 four 99, Thank you. 525 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Looking for a big year from Brooke, Just feeling that I'd 526 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,640 probably rank her higher than you guys do. 527 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,720 I just don't think there's anything that has changed in. 528 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,440 Oh, I say 12. Where would you put her? 529 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040 7th or 8th? So you don't think anything has, 530 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680 You don't. Finish fifth in 2022. 531 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,640 How'd she do in 2023? She. 532 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,520 Was hurt and didn't qualify. Gotcha. 533 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600 I think Matt Fraser tears, ACL and still win the games. 534 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,400 I think there's something to that. 535 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Maybe I, I and and again we'll see. 536 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,440 We'll see. I just think Haley's better. 537 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 And then also Mal is also in Hawaii right now. 538 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Y'all mal's not competing. I'm just she's not going to. 539 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,120 I don't know if you heard O'Keefe, but like, he got asked 540 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,400 that question and O'Keefe was like, yeah, she's not competing 541 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800 this year word for word. Is that exactly what he said? 542 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,280 That's exactly what he said. It's on your behind the scenes. 543 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Everybody go check out Brian's behind the scenes in water. 544 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Palooza O'Keefe just said she's not competing. 545 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,760 This is not misinformation at all. 546 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,320 That's. That's an interesting 547 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,400 interpretation, but it's worth. If you. 548 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080 If you if you click on the subtitles. 549 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,680 If you click on the subtitles, oh Keith, oh Keith, like if you 550 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520 like, like act like you can't hear, right. 551 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,120 You're deaf on the subtitles. It says she's not complete. 552 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,080 Well. You have so AI AI know 553 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,200 something. You have to translate it into 554 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,000 Chinese and then into German and then back into English, and 555 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,080 that's what it says. No, no, no. 556 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Listen, I heard Rosa translate O'Keefe and she said Mao's not 557 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,720 competing. There you have it. 558 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,720 That's the better version. All right. 559 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080 So now we're getting into the top comeback of the year. 560 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,360 I think this guy will make, I think he's capable of the 561 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640 biggest comeback, and you guys will see what I'm talking about 562 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,640 when I say it real quick. We'll give you 5 seconds. 563 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,160 OK, Comments. Go ahead and comment who you 564 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,920 think it is. Who is at the very bottom of the 565 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,720 Canyon? He had a great year. 566 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Ronnie. Ronn made the games and nobody 567 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,720 thought he could. He had a great year. 568 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Here we go. Hosted go ahead. 569 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Man, somebody. Nobody's gotten it yet. 570 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Nobody said it. Ricky Garon and listen what you 571 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,120 say what he didn't do the games. This is cheating and listen he's 572 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,160 going to win the games. How do you go from not doing the 573 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,480 games till you're going to win the games? 574 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,920 I this is. Like this is like. 575 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560 AI Guaranteed. Guaranteed. 576 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,320 He is top three if he does not get hurt, and I personally think 577 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,280 he's going to win. I didn't think he was going to 578 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,720 win to Water Palooza, but man, if you listen to the behind the 579 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,640 scenes, what? What a, what a is it? 580 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,160 It's not released yet, right? The waterproof limousines? 581 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,360 No, it's. No, I don't. 582 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,240 Know. No, it's not. 583 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,920 It's not. I got calmed down. 584 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,640 So listen, when it gets released or honestly, y'all go, go be a 585 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,600 member and and check this out like the way other athletes talk 586 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,280 about Ricky. Everybody's like, it sounds like 587 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,720 he's like, dude, he's just better, he's just better, right? 588 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240 They talk about Ricky the way people used to talk about 589 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,640 Fraser, and I'm not. Similar, this is similar to your 590 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960 translation of Matt. I'm going to push back. 591 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,440 No dude, that's how I get that. And you and listen, you listen 592 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,600 to Hopper and and down like multiple workouts. 593 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,800 They're like, this was the craziest, hardest part. 594 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,440 And Ricky did sixty of those and then and Hopper's like and then 595 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,160 I was supposed to double under and I didn't double under and 596 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Ricky ended up doing like 200. Double like the way and the way, 597 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680 the way. I just think the way athletes 598 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,720 talk about Ricky, it makes me think. 599 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,080 It just makes me think he's going to win the games. 600 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,960 Like I really, I listen and I was Team Roman. 601 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,200 I was Team Roman all the way. But Ricky was a solid #2 and I 602 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,520 thought they would go hand in hand. 603 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,280 And I know Jeff still did. And Jeff's going to be Jeff and 604 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,440 he's going to be great. I'm putting my flag in the 605 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,640 ground. Ricky's going to win the 606 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920 CrossFit Games. And I and listen, if you go from 607 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,120 not making the games, which you know, I know you drove the bike 608 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280 yourself off the Canyon. You played. 609 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680 You were joining Knoxville for a minute and you drove off that 610 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,000 Canyon and you failed to the river and and and you broke your 611 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,520 shoulder. But you know, your shoulders 612 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,400 healed and you're and you're climbing your way back up. 613 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,680 Ricky's going to win the games. That's the biggest comeback. 614 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,840 But wait, there is one comeback that is a little bit bigger than 615 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,480 Ricky's. Because if this person does 616 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,080 what's been put out there, this mystery works. 617 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,840 Yeah, if this person don't, don't put it up yet. 618 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,120 If this person does what's been put out there, what this 619 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,720 ludicrous statement has been put out there, it will be the 620 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,360 greatest comeback of all time. Because there is not. 621 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,720 There is also a person who did not make the games. 622 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Go ahead and put it up. And if Travis Mayer gets top 623 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,880 five in the CrossFit Games, it will be the greatest comeback of 624 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,720 all time. And I don't care what you say, 625 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Rich, to come out of retirement and win the games in 2024. 626 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,600 And it still wouldn't be as big of a comeback as Travis Mayer 627 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,840 getting top five of the games. OK, it would be. 628 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,200 The craziest thing ever. That's how ridiculous that this 629 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,680 thing is not going to happen. OK. 630 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,520 And track. Like if Travis is watching, it's 631 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,560 unfair to you, Travis. It really is. 632 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,199 Because it I, I know you know that you're not going to be top 633 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,480 five. Oh shit. 634 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:19,520 And and I'm just saying like if it comes about, man, you're 635 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,639 listen, I'm a Fraser guy, I will forever talk about Travis Mayer. 636 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,760 Is that my highest guy that I think about in the CrossFit 637 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,280 world if you are top five? Because I'm that confident that 638 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,440 it won't happen. You so if Ricky gets. 1st I'm 639 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,520 almost rooting for it to happen though, because it would be that 640 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,320 crazy. That's what I need. 641 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,600 I need people in the stands at semi finals just screaming mayor 642 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,000 top five. You're putting this. 643 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,920 You're putting this unneeded pressure on him. 644 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,280 Oh no, no. He's a seasoned vet. 645 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,040 He loves. OK. 646 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,440 All right. He also does. 647 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,920 This Sarah Cooper's very happy, John, that you included Travis 648 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,560 just for Tyler. Thank you. 649 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120 And this is your 2024 comeback, Canyon. 650 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 But there's there are some people on the ledge though, 651 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,040 right? There is, there is, there is 652 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,320 people on the Cliff and the Cliff is different. 653 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Wait time out. So we got, we got canyons and we 654 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,560 got. Listen, Listen, listen, listen, 655 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,320 listen. It's coming. 656 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,440 Don't show it yet. It's coming. 657 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,760 The Cliff is a different thing. It's not come back Canyon. 658 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,360 If you're on the Cliff, it means you're about to fall, OK? 659 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,320 There's a doger near the. Cliff, there we go. 660 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,560 This is the Cliff. I love it. 661 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Yeah, this is the Cliff. And listen, if you're on the 662 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,040 Cliff, it means you had like, whatever year you just had. 663 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,600 You're about to not have that year that's that's kind of what 664 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,600 that this means. John's about to hurt some 665 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,560 people's feelings, right? Here. 666 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,160 Yeah. And you know, it is kind of a 667 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Dick thing to put out there, but. 668 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,600 But it's not stop you thus far but. 669 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,440 I'm going to be, I'm going to be nice about it because, But 670 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,880 listen, because if we do a comeback Canyon, I will have 671 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,840 predicted who's in the Canyon of 2025. 672 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,640 You see what I'm saying? Is it possible? 673 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,640 To get away from the Cliff. Yeah. 674 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,240 If if I think that you're going to do, you're going to 675 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,240 continuously do what you have just done or if you're going to 676 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,920 be better than what you just have done, then you're not in 677 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,920 the Cliff. The Cliff is for people who I 678 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,920 think are going to have a worse year than 2024 or 2023. 679 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,640 It's not falling off at all. It's just you're not going to be 680 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,320 as good then. Why is it a Cliff? 681 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,600 Because you're because Comeback Canyon is what you had a bad 682 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,400 year and you want to come back, right? 683 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,320 So these these are the. Clip is the clip is we're about 684 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,280 to fall, Yeah. You're predicting the fall? 685 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,160 Yes, yes. Got it ready. 686 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,560 Go. Here we go. 687 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,000 And here is Ariel Lowen. Olivia Kerstetter, Bailey Rail 688 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,360 Cristobal. Danny Spiegel. 689 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680 Wait a minute. She's. 690 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,840 She's on the Canyon and the Cliff. 691 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,640 Yeah. I will Matthew and Alex Vigneux. 692 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,400 All right, so let me explain the clip. 693 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,080 Walk through these real quick. Yeah, I I will Now, Ariel 694 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,480 Lowen's the biggest one. You're like Ariel Lowen was just 695 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,840 the third fittest woman in the world. 696 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,840 How is she on the Cliff? How far is? 697 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,160 I think she's going to be 10th place. 698 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,560 If she gets 10th place, then she's deserving of being on the 699 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,840 Canyon, is what I'm saying. Right. 700 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,240 It's not a bit no. Yes, She's going to be the 10th 701 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,120 fittest woman in the games, is what I'm saying, Sarah. 702 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,080 But she was just the third fittest woman, right? 703 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,600 That is a fall. Somebody call Ariel, get her on 704 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,520 the show. We need her take on this. 705 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,400 And and I'll say if she's like, so like say she gets fit. 706 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,480 If she gets fit, it's not a fall at all. 707 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,080 She's awesome, right? But I think Tia's coming back. 708 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,960 That's one spot guaranteed, right? 709 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,480 Haley is somebody who could be in the mix, whether y'all think 710 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,920 so or not, Brian thinks Brooke is going to be in the mix. 711 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,880 All these people are taking points away from Lowen and she 712 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,920 just had the miracle year of years for herself and I think 713 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,400 she is routinely been about where Travis Mayer is like 11th, 714 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,400 10th place, right? That's where her years have been 715 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,360 except this 2023 year. And all I'm saying is I think 716 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,000 she's going to return to the mean. 717 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,800 That's all I'm saying. But that would be a fall because 718 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:38,520 of how great 2023 was. It's not a slighted Ariel. 2023 719 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,560 was just the greatest year of all time. 720 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,800 I think if you asked who had the best year in 2023, she is 721 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,320 unanimously the best answer. It's not Laura Horvath. 722 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,560 People expected to her to win. Nobody expected Ariel to be 723 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,880 third place and that's why she's here. 724 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,240 I just think she returns to the me. 725 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Olivia Kurstetter, I saw you at Water Palooza. 726 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,040 I wasn't impressed. I'm sorry. 727 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,080 I think you're going to have trouble making the games. 728 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840 And if you don't make the games, this is a fault. 729 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,080 Truth. Yep. 730 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:11,600 Bailey Rail same thing. I think you're going to I Bailey 731 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,720 Rail had to do a miracle last event to make the games last 732 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,080 year and I think I just think the field's getting bitter and I 733 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,200 just. I just think you're going to 734 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,760 have trouble making it and and it like Bailey Rail. 735 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,880 If she makes the games, then it's like F you John, you're 736 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,400 wrong all the way. All the way. 737 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,160 I'm in the wrong. Bailey did it. 738 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,480 She's awesome, but I don't think she will. 739 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,720 So that's why she's on the Cliff. 740 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,800 Danny Spiegel. Danny Spiegel. 741 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,320 How are you on the Canyon? And you're on the Cliff. 742 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,600 What it How does that work? Right. 743 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,040 That's because if Danny Spiegel. If Danny Spiegel doesn't make 744 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,400 the games, I don't think she comes back. 745 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,040 I think she's done with CrossFit. 746 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,480 So not only is she on the the Canyon and the Cliff, for 747 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,800 everybody else, the Cliff just might be a small drop. 748 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,160 For Ariel alone, it seems like maybe a a slight step down for. 749 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,720 Danny. She happens to be standing over 750 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,040 a a sinkhole. Yeah, so like Danny, Like, if 751 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,200 Danny doesn't make the games, she's falling in the river and 752 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,720 she's not coming back. She might as well go to Iowa 753 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,480 with now because she's not coming back. 754 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,920 All right. I just think if Danny doesn't 755 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,280 make the games, I just think her, she'll be like, I'm just 756 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,560 going to pursue different things. 757 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,320 I'm tired of all this crap that I get from the media. 758 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,320 I'm in that boat. I'm the one giving her crap, and 759 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,000 I just think she goes off and does something else now. 760 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,280 But I think there's just as likely of a chance that she 761 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,080 makes it right. That's why she's on both things. 762 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,160 Nick, Matthew. Nick, you're looking chunky, 763 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,360 man. I'm just going to say it now. 764 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,440 Listen. Like you're like, listen, Nick, 765 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,400 listen, listen, listen, Nick. He has posted up some crazy 766 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080 strength stuff. He has like it's it's crazy. 767 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,360 It's it's pretty insane. It's pretty admirable. 768 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080 It's pretty awesome to watch. Guess what, Nick? 769 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,800 You were already that good at that stuff. 770 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,120 You know, like, I you him posting him getting stronger. 771 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,920 It's almost how I feel with like D, right? 772 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,640 Him getting chunkier or thicker and getting stronger is the same 773 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,440 way I feel about, Gee, it just means you're not getting fitter. 774 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,880 You were already great at that stuff. 775 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,840 So when that's what you post 515 for three or something like, I 776 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,920 think, I just think, I think you're gonna have a hard time 777 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200 making the games. I still think Nick makes the 778 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,600 games, but I don't think he has a good showing when he gets 779 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,680 there, is all I'm saying. Like shredded. 780 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,280 I'm pretty sure it was during the swim event and he looked 781 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,600 shredded. I mean, like, So what? 782 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,680 You might gain five 7 lbs In the offseason? 783 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Like you can lose that no problem right before. 784 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,320 You're right, you're right. And if he's Fraser esque and can 785 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,800 just turn it on like that and then he ends up being the Nick 786 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,760 Matthew that got what, 19th place or 7th plate? 787 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,920 Whatever he got, was it 7th that year that he did great? 788 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,960 That was key. What was the year that he had 789 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,720 like a fantastic year. I think 19th was his best year. 790 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,760 Do you all know that off hand? Who? 791 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,160 Nick, Matthew. I don't know it. 792 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,160 Was 22, right? Also wasn't. 793 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,520 It. 14th I don't see Nick Matthew getting that anymore. 794 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,880 I just. I think he's going to have a 795 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,960 rough time in the 20th to 30th place at the games. 796 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,480 And then if he makes it, that's where he's going to be. 797 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120 I don't see him improving. That's all I'm saying. 798 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,680 That's that's fantastic, Alvin. Thank you, Sir. 799 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,520 Oh, man, that's so true. That's crazy. 800 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,000 I'm so sorry that you're that wrong, Tyler. 801 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,240 I it it it hurts. I still don't care. 802 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,440 Wasn't he like a bodybuilder or something in the past he was. 803 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,400 He's been a fitness dude for forever. 804 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,080 Like losing like 5 to 10 lbs in in body fat for him no problem. 805 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,440 I'm not worried about this at all. 806 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,440 I think you're. Open. 807 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,120 We will see and and sure and sure I might be at least he's 808 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,040 not in the Canyon, He's on the Cliff. 809 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,440 Guess what? Arguably, the Canyon is or the 810 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,520 Cliff is much worse. Listen, listen. 811 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,840 Just walk away from the Cliff. That's all you got to do. 812 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,800 It's not. Hard. 813 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680 Like drain tracks. And then Alex Vigno. 814 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,560 I have high hopes for him at Water Palooza. 815 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,880 This is nothing against Alex. I just think his best days are 816 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,160 past him. I just think he's on the 817 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,480 downhill and that's it. I I think Alex Vigno, I I'm 818 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,280 predicting that he's. I think it's going to be hard 819 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,360 for him to make the games and if he doesn't make the games it's 820 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,200 probably over. And like he doesn't make the 821 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,800 games. He's in the same boat as Bailey 822 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,720 Rail, Bailey Rail, Danny Spiegel, Alex Vigno and Olivia 823 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,400 Kurstetter. All they got to do is make the 824 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,360 games and then I am incredibly wrong and I'm sorry that I said 825 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,480 anything bad about y'all, y'all are all awesome If y'all make 826 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,280 the games, I've been incredibly right and that's it. 827 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000 Cliff is like the Cliff in Midsummer. 828 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,760 Have you ever seen that? Somebody's going to get that. 829 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,920 No, no, dude, I know. I know what? 830 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,320 I know what that is. That's oh, man, That's a scene 831 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,720 right there, Midsummer. Jeez, OK. 832 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,160 But then that, and that's the Cliff. 833 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,800 That was the mean part of the segment. 834 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,720 Listen. And I didn't want to do the 835 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:29,920 Cliff. Bryant's Finn was like, listen. 836 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,920 Listen. You need it. 837 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,800 You need to make this Cliff, OK? If we need to talk bad about 838 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,920 people, you're being too nice, OK? 839 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:41,840 Yes, it's all about the controversy about. 840 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,920 Fan service What about Taylor Self? 841 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Where is he? He's still in time out. 842 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,120 Oh, where's that hosted? Is that at Near? 843 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,040 Base Hill that's that's rookie Hill he's at. 844 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,960 He's at the school. He's at the school in time out. 845 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,520 Oh, he's at climbing school. Got it. 846 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,080 Yeah. Good stuff, John. 847 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,920 Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate it. 848 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,160 I put a lot of work. We're going to get in trouble 849 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,960 for this. And listen, listen, I do want to 850 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,480 say to to the athletes it is all in love. 851 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,240 If you prove me wrong, that's awesome. 852 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:24,360 If you don't, I'm sorry that I'm not, But it is on love. 853 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,160 I admire all of you. You are all monsters. 854 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,640 These are just my these are just these are just my predictions. 855 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,200 OK, they mean nothing. My opinion means nothing, but 856 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,000 these are my predictions. And that is your Canyon. 857 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080 I think when we go to either semi finals, whatever you can 858 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,240 make it to next John, we just do one day a station. 859 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,880 All the athletes who got beef with you, they they get one free 860 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040 slap to get it all out and then we get all that through our 861 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,600 system in. There. 862 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,320 No, let's put some boxing gloves on and I'll give every athlete a 863 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,600 minute and we will spar for a minute. 864 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,120 You can't fight back. You can't fight back. 865 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,360 Come on, man. They don't get to fight back on 866 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,040 the show. These these are some of the 867 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,560 fittest people in the world that can't take one minute or 868 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,160 sparring. I'm going to be tired by the 869 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,640 time I get to the 8th person, you know what I mean? 870 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,920 Don't backpedal now. And for the girls, the girls 871 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,760 that have beef with me, I just get one arm. 872 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:28,320 I don't think that's. Fair. 873 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,560 All right, there we go. Come back, Canyon. 874 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680 We'll see if John is right in a few months. 875 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,600 Now it's time for some blind rankings. 876 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040 Here we go, getting all jazzed up for this. 877 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,000 We don't know what it is. I'm stoked, I love. 878 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:55,320 These here it is CrossFit fads. So throughout the years, when I 879 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,960 give you a CrossFit fad, you rank the best to the worst 880 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,400 CrossFit. John, I bet there are some in 881 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,000 this list that you weren't even around for. 882 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,800 We'll see. I'm a pretty good historian. 883 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,160 I know. I'm like, you're absolutely 884 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,360 right. Like you guys were gotten in the 885 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,920 CrossFit before me, but I nerded out. 886 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,240 I nerded out in the history pretty darn hard. 887 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,880 So I think you all know what I'm talking about when you see him. 888 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,760 Whether or not you actually partook in the CrossFit Fed, 889 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,040 that's another story. But. 890 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,600 If taking your shirt off is is on the list, I feel like that 891 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,480 has to be #1. Does that count as a fashion? 892 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,600 This is the very OG thing of you to do. 893 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,480 Spin This is proof you've been around for forever, because I 894 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,280 feel like I know what's coming up or some of the. 895 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,480 You're just waiting, and you're just waiting for it. 896 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,320 Yes. Here we go. 897 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,520 Board. Shorts. 898 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,560 Board shorts. Giant board shorts. 899 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,280 I feel like, listen, are we going to rank this on popularity 900 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,480 or I'm like staying power, You know what I'm saying? 901 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,960 Because some big deal. Was the fad like popularity of 902 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,880 the fad itself? What's the bigger popularity? 903 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,200 I think this is a three or a four only because of the time 904 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680 period in which it existed. That it was and people weren't 905 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:19,880 bike. Oh, you see him in the shorts? 906 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,200 Yeah, you. Know what I mean? 907 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,000 But people wore them in. Board shorts and shit like that. 908 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,400 It was it was a great time, but it was because we hadn't figured 909 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,600 out shorts yet. I think this is like a three. 910 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,840 I think 3. I think we go four, bro. 911 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,360 If it's, if it's fat, I know, I know. 912 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,240 But if it's fat, it's going to be stuff that you heard about, 913 00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:46,480 right? It's going to be stuff that we 914 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,400 make fun of, right? You know, booty shorts, booty 915 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,040 shorts is going to be up there. That's number one, like. 916 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,080 No tall socks is going to be in the list. 917 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,400 I feel, I feel like we go four. There are better ones. 918 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,320 All right. Four. 919 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,280 I'll go four. Fine. 920 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,000 All right, board shorts I had. I had my fair share of board 921 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,640 shorts. Did you? 922 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,400 No. See Hill What are Board shorts? 923 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,920 What are Board Shorts? Go back and watch CrossFit Games 924 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,400 2011. 2012, yeah. 2012 Fronting in as they're giant. 925 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:26,280 Think of like, surfer shorts. Just big baggy shorts down to 926 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,760 your knees. 2 long slits on the sides. 927 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,120 Slits on the sides so you can actually squat in them. 928 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,920 Yeah, I had some. I don't. 929 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,320 I don't have them. I don't have any. 930 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,520 That that just shows when you got into CrossFit all right. 931 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:48,320 The second one is compression tights, Austin Malleolo style. 932 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,600 Yeah. I think of like Kenny leverage, 933 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:56,280 Kenny leverage. Yeah, these these span these, 934 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:02,560 these died and came back like they were like, no, but like 935 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,360 they they were around like 2007, eight Austin Maliello's days. 936 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,120 And then they like kind of came back around 2015. 937 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,360 Sixteen guys started wearing them again in training. 938 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,000 This is something if Brent Bukowski was in 2010, he would 939 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,680 wear these. You think? 940 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,240 Yes, I think that. He was. 941 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,440 Back then, I I just remember it. Was. 942 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,800 I'm with you. I'm with you, Tyler. 943 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,440 The Reebok Regional up in Massachusetts, and it was like 944 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,520 blazing hot outside and Austin's out there and like white 945 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,080 compression. Yeah, he looks like the white. 946 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,680 Power board board shorts and white compression shirt and 947 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,800 pants, yes. Yeah, I think this is a 5 948 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,840 because not a whole lot of people were ballsy enough to do 949 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,880 it. I agree. 950 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,920 There it is, tights are far superior for training. 951 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,640 How does that make sense? #5 I was convinced. 952 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,280 Yeah, five. I was convinced for years when I 953 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:01,400 played football that tighter football pants were made me play 954 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,920 better. I was convinced. 955 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,600 So I wore like a a smaller, an extra small if I could get them 956 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,960 on. And there was. 957 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,040 I'm like a large There's no way. All right. 958 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,680 Next. Next CrossFit fad Kinesia tape. 959 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120 It's still not even dead. I mean it's. 960 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,160 This is, but this is like when you see the like. 961 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,520 The athletes had like, their entire back everywhere. 962 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,880 Yeah, I think of me. I think of Annie. 963 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,200 Like, I feel like Annie in 2009 had like this the whole time. 964 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:38,440 Like like her ring muscle up. She's got Camiso tape on like I 965 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,920 this is a three for me. I know we're playing with fire 966 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,360 leaving the last two. But like, it just doesn't have 967 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:43,880 any. Like. 968 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,120 This is a three. You know what I mean? 969 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,040 Like it doesn't mean. When it started to hit, it was 970 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,800 like, everybody's like, Oh yeah, I need to be kinesio taped up. 971 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,960 It was like everyone had Kinesio tape on and it was like, I'm 972 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,080 fairly certain. That was. 973 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,440 Doing nothing. Should have put Kinesio tape on 974 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:10,160 that heel 3 Here We are playing with fire right now. 975 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,080 You. Getting nervous, John? 976 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,120 Oh man, now I'm getting bamboozled. 977 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,200 It has to be two. I know number one's going to be 978 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,640 so bad. I remember going into gyms and 979 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,800 seeing dudes wear those, and I was just like, there's no way 980 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,120 this is, is. I don't know I I don't know what 981 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,480 this is. Can you explain it to me? 982 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,240 It's the shoe for five years. Fucking gloves for your feet. 983 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,440 It's got your toe. It's got places for your toes. 984 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,000 John, have you never seen these? I don't think so. 985 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,920 This is 2. This is a 2. 986 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,840 John, how do? You maybe. 987 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,360 Maybe. I saw them and I just thought 988 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,840 they were a shoe. Are you pulling it up? 989 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,920 I I can look it up. They look like water shoes. 990 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:03,600 But if water shoes had toes and people would come in and it was 991 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,600 like, the thing was, it was like we were all about like like 992 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,920 Paleo was a big word back then. And people were like getting 993 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,360 back to being like kind of gritty and I don't know, 994 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,960 prehistoric or something. And they were like, yeah, this 995 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,280 is definitely better for your feet. 996 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:23,640 And then they would go run a 5. K I I yeah, no, I no, this is. 997 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,720 I mean this should be 5. I see. 998 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,720 I think. I think you say it's not. 999 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,400 It's definitely not a 5 because there were so many people 1000 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,800 wearing them look. At those toes fit right in 1001 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,800 there. Name Name Name 3. 1002 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,680 I don't know if anybody competitively ever wore them, 1003 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,440 but it was like the regular gym goer who's going to wear flat 1004 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:55,680 shoes with no like raised heel. Super functional back then. 1005 00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,080 I have no problem with you wearing them, but it was 1006 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,880 training in them that just I was like this I I have. 1007 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,800 A problem with you wearing them, They're like they're they're 1008 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,040 just stop it. You deserve, you deserve to be 1009 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,480 made fun of if you're wearing those. 1010 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,160 Nate Johnson, the guy at his gym, has worn them for every 1011 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,160 workout for five years. I just I there's. 1012 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,560 No way They're good for your feet. 1013 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,960 If I saw somebody wear those every single day for five years, 1014 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,840 I would just buy him a pair of shoes for his birthday. 1015 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:37,840 So it's a 2. Back #2. 1016 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,840 Alright, last one. Can we decide what would be the 1017 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:51,880 worst thing that could come up? I don't even know I I have no 1018 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,200 idea what can come up next. Like I wouldn't have thought of 1019 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,160 any of these, but they all make sense. 1020 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,040 Yeah. They were all major fads. 1021 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,400 Let's just bring it. I hope it's booty shorts. 1022 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:13,920 Please be tall, socks Tulsa. Every single girl. 1023 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:19,200 When we were when we were in, when we were in Miami, it was 1024 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200 like water. Palooza was over. 1025 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,960 We were all at the house and for some reason we were watching the 1026 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,400 2016 Regionals. We were watching the team 1027 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,680 events. It was like 1:00 in the morning 1028 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,640 and we were all watching that eating pizza and every girl had 1029 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,720 knee high socks on. Is that every 20 boxes of pizza 1030 00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:37,120 you bought? Yes. 1031 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,960 Who Who's the Who's the big proponent of talk? 1032 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,400 Like who's the first? Was it Annie? 1033 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,560 I don't know why they were a thing. 1034 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,360 I just I. It was to protect your shins 1035 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,000 from your. Deadlines with Annie in them. 1036 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,000 But was she the first person? Or was it somebody like Tonya 1037 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,400 Wagner? It was somebody at the ranch. 1038 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,280 I know Annie did wear them at the ranch. 1039 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,480 Who's the Toyota Camry of CrossFit? 1040 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,800 What's her name? The girl She got like third of 1041 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,360 the games? The teacher. 1042 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,680 PC Oh Valve. Vol. 1043 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,920 Valve. Valve. 1044 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,640 Vol. She wore them, dude. 1045 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,440 Everybody wore them. I I can't think of like a iconic 1046 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,000 girl, 'cause it was just everyone. 1047 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,720 I mean, I think Andy's the most iconic, but. 1048 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,320 Vindicate KT should be #2. KT was 10 times more than five 1049 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,640 fingers. I would agree with that. 1050 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,440 Yeah, no. In hindsight we would agree with 1051 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,840 you. We can't see it. 1052 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:40,000 Henceforth blind rankings. I think 5 fingers drops to four. 1053 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,520 Kenisio tape definitely goes to. Two, I would put five fingers to 1054 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,960 five and then just, you know, everything up to up. 1055 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,680 You didn't even know what they were. 1056 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,040 Exactly. I know what compression tights 1057 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,960 are exactly, yeah. Tall sucks. 1058 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,680 Played off the compression tights trend, yeah. 1059 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,960 Yep, I had AI had a bunch from Reebok. 1060 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,400 I had the old outlaw way. Ones had outlaw on the backside. 1061 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,760 Compression. Pants. 1062 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,560 No, that's the the tall socks. Yeah, Yep. 1063 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:11,600 You're a runner though. What isn't? 1064 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,760 Am I? Am I Innovates? 1065 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,360 Aren't tall socks. Bigger thing in running. 1066 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,920 Well, all the old guys wear them because they think it helps with 1067 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,800 their calf stamina or something. I don't know. 1068 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,400 I don't think all socks are a thing in side plane like they 1069 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,200 would make stocks. I don't know why they. 1070 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880 Probably didn't. Yeah, blood flow. 1071 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,760 All right, there you go, I. Remember people putting KT tape 1072 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,480 on their shins? You put it everywhere. 1073 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,360 Like, yeah, Like I I saw when I was looking through it, I saw 1074 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,040 somebody with like, I don't know, eight pieces of tape on 1075 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,720 their back at one of the CrossFit, like Games or 1076 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,600 something like that. Yeah, people, people, KT tanned 1077 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,240 up or KT taping up for like deadlift events. 1078 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:02,240 I remember that being a thing. I'm like there's no way that's 1079 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,680 providing. That much support? 1080 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,840 No, no. But it makes you feel good, so 1081 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,600 might as well do it. Yeah, made you look cool. 1082 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:19,720 I guess made you look tough last one, Roman Empire. 1083 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,360 So again, this is a social media trend. 1084 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,720 My Roman Empire. It's something that you think? 1085 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,400 About what the trend is. Do you know the the Roman Empire 1086 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,040 trend? No, I don't. 1087 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,720 I I. Don't. 1088 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,280 Yeah, so. So there's a trend going on on 1089 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,040 TikTok that like all guys at least once a day think about the 1090 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,280 Roman Empire. Like we continually just think 1091 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,600 about the fall of the Roman Empire. 1092 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,880 I don't think about that. I get what I get, what it's 1093 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,080 trying to mean. There are things I think, that 1094 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,320 guys continually think about. We don't even talk about it. 1095 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,120 We just do think about these things. 1096 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,080 For instance, I think a lot of guys think about zombie 1097 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,200 apocalypses constantly. Like what would I do in this in 1098 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,120 in the emergency of a zombie apocalypse? 1099 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,400 Yeah, I've had those thoughts, but I don't think about that and 1100 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,360 we, I don't think about that you. 1101 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,520 Said it like. Obviously I don't think about 1102 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,640 that every day, but you know, World War Z is on. 1103 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,600 I, you know, I play up the whole dilemma of what would I do for 1104 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,680 sure. OK, so like, am I supposed to 1105 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,040 think about this every day? Because I don't think I think 1106 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,080 about CrossFit stuff every single day. 1107 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,840 These are the, these are the things that you think about on a 1108 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,480 consistent basis of like how's this going to happen. 1109 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:42,280 So a viral TikTok trend drew attention about the legacy of 1110 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,120 Rome. And so yeah, it was basically 1111 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,920 clips on TikTok of people talking about are. 1112 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,320 You on TikTok are Are we on TikTok? 1113 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,320 OK. Are we on TikTok? 1114 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,560 We're missing the whole market. Yes, OK. 1115 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,280 I'm going to let. OK, you guys go, you guys, we're 1116 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,440 going 1 by 1. So John, these are things that 1117 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,560 you think about quite often about the sport. 1118 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,840 OK. Change or or different things 1119 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:16,440 that you just consider often about the sport or it's CrossFit 1120 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,080 in general. We'll go one by one and then and 1121 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,560 then I will. I will be the last one to go. 1122 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,640 All right. Now you don't have to hold this, 1123 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,800 but we'll go one like Tyler. You want to start it, Kick it 1124 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,280 off, Tyler. Yeah, did you do you have the 1125 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,080 list or or do you have something? 1126 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,960 Pop up, you got to bring it up. You you you get to present it. 1127 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,840 Where is my phone? All right. 1128 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,120 I will start since you're. Yeah, you do. 1129 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,720 You start. One thing I've been thinking 1130 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,040 about is what happens if the open Registration this year does 1131 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,920 not see year over year growth? What does that mean? 1132 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,400 You think so? You you think about that every 1133 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,520 day? No, it's something that I that I 1134 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,800 think often. What do you think about? 1135 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,520 Yes, like it's it's one of those things like what is going to 1136 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,880 happen to the sport if we don't see growth, right. 1137 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,640 Everybody keeps talking about Crossfit's dying. 1138 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,440 Crossfit's dead. OK. 1139 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:18,000 The question is what happens if open registrations come in and 1140 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,200 it falls short of what it was last year, or even worse, the 1141 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,480 year before that? Do you think, Do you have an 1142 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,360 answer or do you want us to? No, I don't. 1143 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,160 No. Party on it. 1144 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,280 For a second. Oh, are we supposed to answer 1145 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,160 the here? Yeah, OK. 1146 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,360 What do you think does? It does it matter or is it just? 1147 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,040 I think, I think it's one of them things that we will, you 1148 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,280 know, see it when it happens. Like, it's kind of hard to say, 1149 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,240 oh, this will happen where I feel like we just don't know 1150 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,160 until it happens and then and then we'll play it by year. 1151 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,160 You just find out no predictions. 1152 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,840 Like, do you Don't you think that if we're not seeing growth 1153 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,000 in just the community, that's a bad sign for where we're going 1154 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,960 just? Not even the game I just. 1155 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,880 It's not the affiliate side. Yeah, but what do you, what do 1156 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,480 you, what do you, what do you think will happen after that? 1157 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,680 Nothing. It'll just keep being the same 1158 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,400 and then we'll continue to decline or we'll find a way out 1159 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,480 of it. It'll be the fadeaway. 1160 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,600 Hiller made a video about this. It's like what you What are you 1161 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,280 all going to do if this is going to fail? 1162 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,160 And he was like, it's never going to fail because you guys 1163 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,160 who are invested are just going to keep showing up. 1164 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,360 Maybe the, you know, the the spigot isn't on. 1165 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,120 People aren't coming in, but for the most part, the people who 1166 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,240 are going to be here are staying here and they want it to 1167 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,040 continue. So they keep feeding it money. 1168 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,080 Yeah, I think about that a lot if. 1169 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,920 It But is it? But is it sustainable? 1170 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,920 Right, like. It's probably got a 10 year time 1171 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,840 period on it if if we don't, yeah, it's like if we don't show 1172 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,400 growth in the open in the next two years, we got 10 years left 1173 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,840 before. I don't think. 1174 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,240 I don't think it would ever go away. 1175 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,960 I really don't. I I I feel like it would have 1176 01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:02,320 went away by now if it did. I feel like we've tried our 1177 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:07,200 hardest to make it go away. I like if you've seen like where 1178 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,840 like the head of CrossFit headquarters, like what that's 1179 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,800 went through like and now we're on board and we got sold five 1180 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,160 different times. Half the time we don't know who 1181 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,760 our CEO is. Half the time we don't know if 1182 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,400 Dave's a part of CrossFit or not. 1183 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,520 We don't know who does the games programming. 1184 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,440 They say Boz does, but we all think Dave does. 1185 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,880 We are in the dark on so many things, which I actually think 1186 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,440 headquarters has been way better this year about being 1187 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,320 transparent. But I'm just saying I think it 1188 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:42,440 would have gone away by now if it was going to go away. 1189 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,600 Yeah, I think you can get smaller, but I don't think it 1190 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,800 will ever go away. World's Strongest Man is very 1191 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,280 tiny and it's been going on since 1970 and it's just state, 1192 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,600 but it's like we want. To be a little bit better than. 1193 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,600 That no, I get you. But you you're saying you're 1194 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,720 saying it's just going to go away. 1195 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,480 There's not going to be any more CrossFit. 1196 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,640 I don't think it will ever go away. 1197 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,120 I think it's too There's too many people who love the 1198 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,120 methodology this. You know, if there was like 15 1199 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,600 blockbusters that were still around, not the one that's in 1200 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,960 Alaska, I'd say there were 15 that just stayed. 1201 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,240 And everybody three of these 15 blockbusters are forever going 1202 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:26,280 to be here because Strongman has been so tiny for 40 years and 1203 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,120 it's still going to be happening every single year. 1204 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,640 They're still going to be the Rogue Arnold Strongest Man 1205 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,280 Arnold and Rogue Invitational for Strongman, and they're still 1206 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,720 World's Strongest Man. The smallest the games will ever 1207 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,360 get is that. And I know we don't want to be 1208 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,000 that. I know we want to grow and we 1209 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,760 want to get bigger and bigger, but it's. 1210 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,320 I don't think it's ever going to go away, is what I'm saying, you 1211 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,840 know, but. Don't you think if it gets to be 1212 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,200 that size it's a failure? Like I don't like if it was sure 1213 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,760 if it goes back. To the ranch, it's not going to 1214 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,400 go back to. The ranch and there's a handful 1215 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,440 of people that show up and it's barely watched, like, I would 1216 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,600 not consider that a successful. Listen, listen, I plan on 1217 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,960 staying in it and if I'm the 2040 fittest man in the world 1218 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,200 because it got that small and in my opinion, it's not a failure. 1219 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,560 It's it's it's like high school, you know, It's like everybody in 1220 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,960 high school kind of hangs around town and does their whole thing, 1221 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,840 you know, and then like you graduate and then you see like 1222 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,160 this mass exodus of people, right? 1223 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,040 And we might have sort of seen some of that, but there's these 1224 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,960 dudes that kind of just hang around for like 5 or 10 years. 1225 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,040 They're like 30 and they're still talking of high schoolers 1226 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,720 that are 18 or younger. And it's like, at what point 1227 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,680 does everybody just vacate? Because it's like what I'm. 1228 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,000 Saying what I'm saying is there's always going to be those 1229 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,880 dudes. There's always going to be that 1230 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,080 40 year old. Weirdo. 1231 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,920 There's always the new kids that are graduating. 1232 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,520 Yes, that's what I'm saying. And and like I'm not saying 1233 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,640 that's a good thing. That's not. 1234 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,640 I don't, I know we don't want to be there. 1235 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,400 But you're saying what happens if it fails failure is we still 1236 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,800 do what we love. And I don't think that's a bad 1237 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,800 like like I think there's there's peace in that. 1238 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,200 Do you get paid for this, Brian? Yeah, a little bit. 1239 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,880 I I cover my expenses. How about that? 1240 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,840 You cover your expenses, Tyler. Do you get paid? 1241 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,320 Not from heat One. Go post moved, do. 1242 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,160 Y'all see what I'm saying with this? 1243 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,080 I I do, I think. There's to be a point where 1244 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,240 people like us don't do this anymore. 1245 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,320 It's a different story of like, let's say I was. 1246 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,040 Making didn't you're paying 50. $1000 doing this and then I'm 1247 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,440 down to barely breaking even. Like at some point you're like, 1248 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,080 eh, well it was a good run. I'm going to go find something 1249 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,120 else to do, right? And I think that's where 1250 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,960 Strongman and CrossFit differs. Strongman never really got to 1251 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,240 that. Like they've always been this 1252 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:05,080 kind of underground niche sport. They never saw huge popularity 1253 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,120 and success, and then they're back to where they were. 1254 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,360 Well, I just think fitness will always be more popular than 1255 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,280 strong, man. I think. 1256 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,560 I think forever, like just being fit, will be more popular. 1257 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,280 I think what the what y'all's biggest fear is? 1258 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,320 What will happen with the Hyroxus of the world. 1259 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,280 I know that's not a popular answer, but I've seen it happen 1260 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:28,000 again and again and again with endurance things, endurance, 1261 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,200 things that have gotten big because. 1262 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:33,800 Great. Thanks, Greg. 1263 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,960 Greg, you need to pick a bit a better avatar, if that's really 1264 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,360 you. I love that the idea that that 1265 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,480 Greg's just watching and something triggered him to just 1266 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,520 go, damn it. We're doing something right. 1267 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,200 All right. But yeah, we can go to the next 1268 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,400 thing. We can talk in circles forever 1269 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,480 about that. Are we slash, will we continue 1270 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:05,000 or will we continually move towards niche events, More niche 1271 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,600 events? I think this year we started to 1272 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,640 see more specialization of programming and we did a little 1273 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,000 bit the year prior. Is that something we're going to 1274 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,120 continue to see? I think about it a lot because I 1275 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,319 want to see that happen. So am I looking? 1276 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,680 AM. I confirming my own bias. 1277 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,880 Go ahead, what? What type of event? 1278 01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:31,160 Running, running only the the gymnastics event that was this 1279 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,120 year, we've already seen it with weightlifting. 1280 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,520 We've been seeing that for years, but it seemed like there 1281 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,840 was more events that were sort of niche like you're you're kind 1282 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,160 of, yeah, specialist event, niche events. 1283 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,000 That's the same thing to me. More events like that. 1284 01:08:47,319 --> 01:08:50,720 My theory is if they want to make this sport more fun and 1285 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,160 enjoyable to watch, that will be the case. 1286 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:58,800 But people are stuck in their own ways and they have a formula 1287 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,520 and they they like that formula whether it works or not. 1288 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,479 So yeah, I think maybe I am confirming my own bias because 1289 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,760 that's what I want to see happen, but I do look for other 1290 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,399 signs. Could we see, could we see a 20, 1291 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,200 was it 2017 regionals where it was like no dumbbell or or no 1292 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,640 barbell, barbell straight it was going One Direction and then 1293 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,040 it's like. Hey. 1294 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,200 We're we're confusing you. And we're not going to do that 1295 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,160 anymore. Dave did a hard shift. 1296 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,160 Yeah, I mean, could you see something like that? 1297 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,880 I I I could like I don't think we're just setting our ways that 1298 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:38,279 we won't right size and steer the boat in the right direction 1299 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:42,200 again right if you think it's going in too far down one path. 1300 01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:48,359 We seem to be getting away from the like the brute sort of 1301 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:53,560 volume endurance sort of thing that we used to just do just. 1302 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,560 A million rips. That's Adrian versus Dave. 1303 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,560 I I agree with that. I think it's, I think it's less 1304 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,280 like you said, just just endurance, volume, you know, 1305 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,480 less 50 handstand push ups, 50 toes to bar, 50 pull ups, 50 1306 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,160 wall balls, 50 box jump overs and then that should have been. 1307 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,280 Adrian's not going to program at Atlanta. 1308 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,760 No, I think after at Atlanta, Dave's not going to program it 1309 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:18,840 either. Yeah. 1310 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,040 But are we going to see more events that that like, are we 1311 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,120 going to continue to push that envelope where it's even less 1312 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,800 sort of volume endurance, Crossfitty style events and more 1313 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,280 and less and more of the the niche events? 1314 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,200 I want to see that. I think it would be good for the 1315 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:46,760 sport, but will we see it? I think the games moving inside 1316 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,760 moves away from that. Back It probably goes back to 1317 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,360 the Crossfitting. Crossfitting stuff. 1318 01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:57,840 Yeah, I I agree. But I think, I think whenever 1319 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,680 they say 90% of the games is going to be indoors, I think 1320 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,200 you're taking that way too literal. 1321 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,880 I think they're going to do stuff that you didn't think was 1322 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,600 possible. Like, I think there will be just 1323 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,320 as much running. Like when they say the events 1324 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,560 will be indoors, that doesn't mean you're going to start the 1325 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,080 running door and end the running door. 1326 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:17,160 But the most of it's outside, like, I think that just means 1327 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,400 we're just staying on here in this place. 1328 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:24,640 You could still run. It's just not going to be I I 1329 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,800 just think, I think you're taking it too literal. 1330 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,680 When they say 90% of the events are going to be indoors, they're 1331 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,440 going to still do outside stuff. It's just going to be in a way 1332 01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:38,720 we haven't thought about. Sure, I I'll disagree. 1333 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,000 I know you don't believe me. I know. 1334 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,120 I know you disagree hard. I know you disagree hard. 1335 01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:47,720 But the games has never like it's always been outside of the 1336 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,360 box with things. It's never just CrossFit. 1337 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,000 I mean, the floor has the ability to do more outside of 1338 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,120 the box, things inside. I just don't think we're going 1339 01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,480 to see the same level of. Endurance. 1340 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,480 At least, yeah. Yeah. 1341 01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:05,280 Like there might be one, right? Yeah, I'm not. 1342 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,480 One morning they go out and they do some type of run or whatever. 1343 01:12:09,480 --> 01:12:16,320 But I don't see it as what it's been in the past where they have 1344 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,080 multiple ones where there's they're biking and then they're 1345 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,920 running and they're, you know, doing another event with a run 1346 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,320 outside. Like I don't see that happening. 1347 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:29,320 I think you're right. If they move to an indoor event 1348 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,160 and they push, you know the the progression, like you want to 1349 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,640 see a progression on the floor. So you know who the leader is 1350 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,240 and you can tell the story that way. 1351 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,960 I mean they've talked about that definitely doing it overseas if 1352 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,960 you want to, basically could cookie cutter the sport a little 1353 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,400 more. Not making it cookie cutter, but 1354 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,520 having more defined things like that. 1355 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:51,560 Yeah, I can see what you're saying. 1356 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,400 You have to go back to cross Fiddy type events. 1357 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,560 T Bird, did we hear Brent's take on talking league fitness of 1358 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,160 Dave's 90%? I think that came out today. 1359 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,520 I have not watched it, so I don't know. 1360 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,480 T Bird, fill us in if you want us to respond on that. 1361 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:18,520 John, do you have one? Yeah, man, I I would say, I 1362 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,560 would say quarter finals programming, I think of a lot, 1363 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,280 just I feel like it has to be different because it's 25% 1364 01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:33,680 instead of 10% and I I just don't know what they're going to 1365 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,560 do. I I, I, I hope it is similar to 1366 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,320 the quarter finals in two years past. 1367 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,880 I think. I think quarter finals been 1368 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,240 wonderfully programmed the last couple years. 1369 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,560 I'm not I wasn't a fan of the single crossovers just because I 1370 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,320 wasn't good at them and I never had them and there was, but like 1371 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,920 that's fine. That's fine though. 1372 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,640 Like like the programming overall I think was awesome and 1373 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,880 it's fine to put in a skill that people don't have and see who 1374 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,280 can adapt, right. And if you can't adapt, you 1375 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,080 better learn how I. Like that event for that reason? 1376 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,640 No, no. And it and it was a fine event. 1377 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,440 I just wasn't good at it right. I'm not mad at the event I just 1378 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,400 I just wasn't good at it. But like I hope the programming 1379 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,280 is similar and I and I'm going to and I'll be, but I don't know 1380 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:24,120 how you do that with 25% and just because the top 25% that 1381 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:31,080 line there are so unfit to if you're in, if you're the 76th 1382 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:37,080 percentile and you make it, you are not close to top 10%. 1383 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,080 Right. It's not that you have. 1384 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,480 No idea. It's just you're not, you're not 1385 01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:44,400 in the same ballpark of fitness we saw. 1386 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,880 The top we saw the 10th percentile that the people that 1387 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,840 just made it in, and not even them. 1388 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,560 Like even in the middle of the pack, the top 5% and some 1389 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,440 regions struggled with some of the programming on 1390 01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,720 quarterfinals. Yeah, right. 1391 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,160 And for instance. Like like the 275 clean and jerk 1392 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:06,800 workout. Like literally all the top 25%. 1393 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,600 Like top 20% of that can't do it. 1394 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,280 And I think there needs to be workouts like that. 1395 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,760 I don't. And like, you know what's funny 1396 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,480 is the top 25% that makes it lean towards one Rep Maxis that 1397 01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:22,000 makes it lean towards things like that. 1398 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,280 And I don't think it should be like that. 1399 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,160 I've been testing strength the way they did in the 1400 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,480 quarterfinals and quarter workout 3 with the five burby 1401 01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:32,520 box jumps over the 30 inch, believe it or not, that little 1402 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,240 extra cardio aspect. I know it doesn't sound like a 1403 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,880 lot, but I was really, really out of breath. 1404 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,320 It it's a big separator and like I think strength should be 1405 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,720 tested like that in quarter finals and it makes it lean 1406 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,680 towards just straight up Max outs like me, like me. 1407 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,960 Personally it's better for me that it's like that, but I don't 1408 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,120 think it should be. I think. 1409 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,400 I think you just get more specialist like that. 1410 01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:02,240 And I think you have to do that when it's that little, that much 1411 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,000 people. So I'll just be interested to 1412 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,320 see how that programming comes about. 1413 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,320 I hope it's done right. Well, I don't know what that 1414 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:15,240 looks like, but I'm not boss, so you know, good luck to him. 1415 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,440 And if it's bad, I'm going to tell hundreds of people that 1416 01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:22,760 it's bad. So, you know, hopefully it's not 1417 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,920 bad and I'll tell hundreds of people that it's good. 1418 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,280 Yeah, Mason Mitchell, I'll disagree with you on this, but 1419 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,720 he says you have to bait the 25% in with one workout they can 1420 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,440 actually do. It's different than the open, 1421 01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:36,360 right? Like all the workouts are 1422 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,120 released at once, right? And if you go look through those 1423 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:43,800 and you're like I can do one out of five, do I spend, what is it, 1424 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:49,920 $4050 to to jump in on that if you can't even do it And so? 1425 01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:54,440 And you're sending the fittest people in the world to semi 1426 01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:56,680 finals. Yeah, this was my second one, 1427 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,880 Jon, was it? It's a little bit of A twist, 1428 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:04,320 but it was will the program be changed so much that the top 1429 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,600 that the wrong people don't make it to semi finals? 1430 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,440 And that's what I don't want. Right. 1431 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:14,160 Like, I don't think it's gonna be some mass, like half the 1432 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,040 field is there. But do we, do we miss a Gila 1433 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,320 Hoste? Do we miss? 1434 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,600 And if it's a Max out instead of that workout 3 Yellow hosted 1435 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,640 doesn't make it 'cause he's not strong. 1436 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,920 Right. And yeah, and if it's, if it is 1437 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,880 a Max out and you do have those people that are 20th percentile, 1438 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,840 they're like, yeah, I'm going to throw it in and maybe I can win 1439 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,760 it. And they get in there, they they 1440 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,560 finish, you know, in between the top people. 1441 01:17:42,440 --> 01:17:45,080 It does create Yella going way down the list. 1442 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,880 And so that was my concern like you can't all do 5 gated 1443 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,960 workouts, you can't do 5 ladders right? 1444 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,080 Like it can't all be just open workouts again because it what's 1445 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,120 the point of that. So you have to increase the 1446 01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,240 complexity and the difficulty. I just don't know how you do it 1447 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:09,480 in a way that doesn't alienate 11 through 1511 through 25 that 1448 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,600 are now added into it. I don't know how you do it 1449 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,960 either. What's the date that you have to 1450 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,240 like? You can start quarterfinals and 1451 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,000 then pay for it, right? Yeah, it's the same. 1452 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,800 Same thing as. You can pay for it all the way 1453 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,160 until it's over. That's my thing. 1454 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,560 Like the alienation is only if you've already paid for it. 1455 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,600 But if you if you have the ability to, like, make a 1456 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,720 judgement call on whether you're going to pay for it enough, I 1457 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,560 say alienate the hell out of people because you're really 1458 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,000 just casting the net down to the 15%. 1459 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,080 That extra 15% has a money crab. It it doesn't doesn't remind me 1460 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,120 what Boz has said when he was on our show, which it didn't sound 1461 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,240 like that, right? He wanted to be accessible, too. 1462 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:55,000 And that's what I did. .5%. Like I went yeah, but like I 1463 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,280 think of that GHDV up workout and I know the standards were 1464 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:03,200 like you know we were all went off on the standards but like I 1465 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,680 think that's a great core endurance workout that workout 1466 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,840 it hurts. I'm not this one's like two 1467 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,600 years ago he's talking about the pistol rope climb GHG workout. 1468 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,120 I'm not. I'm talking about the one last 1469 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,360 year. But like, it ripped you up. 1470 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,520 But and now it's irresponsible to put that workout out until 1471 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,560 80th percentile. Hey, do this. 1472 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,760 You're going to get people wrapped up because they they're 1473 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,200 not ready for it. They can't do that without 1474 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,920 hurting themselves. And I know, and I'm listening. 1475 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,360 I'm not the safe guy. I could care less what PFAA 1476 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,480 does, but I want those workouts there. 1477 01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:45,680 They need to be there to separate the field. 1478 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,760 They need to you. Need to have between the Open. 1479 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,600 They need to be between the Open and the semifinals. 1480 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,160 They can't. Be you have. 1481 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,280 To work open workouts right? Like. 1482 01:19:55,120 --> 01:20:02,360 There has to be painful workouts and and The thing is like you 1483 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,360 have to be a certain level of fitness to make it through that 1484 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,640 like those workouts and and I just think they're going to dumb 1485 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:14,200 it down and not not mentally but physically and it's just going 1486 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,920 to be an extension of the Open. I don't want it to be an 1487 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:22,120 extension of the Open. Yeah, extra sloppy. 1488 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,440 Everyone gets caught up in whether the right people make it 1489 01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:27,320 to the next stage, but CrossFit doesn't care about that. 1490 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,920 They only care about finding the single fittest man and woman. 1491 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,320 And that they will. And I've always, I mean. 1492 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,880 That's true. That's true. 1493 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,520 Have to. Eliminate that thought. 1494 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,200 If you want to like. If you. 1495 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,000 If you're someone who's like, oh, we need to professionalize 1496 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,120 the sport. If the word professionalization 1497 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,920 comes out of your mouth as a goal that cannot be your that 1498 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,320 can also. Be your view 100%. 1499 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,800 But what I'm saying, like what he's saying is like the fittest 1500 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,680 man and woman will make it through no matter what. 1501 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,480 They will. You're right, the top ten 1502 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,000 probably will. But I think it should be 1503 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:07,160 Crossfit's goal to get the 40 fittest men and women to the 1504 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,600 games, period. And I get you have to have 1505 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,280 Africa, you have to have Asia, I get you have to have your token 1506 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,920 foreign people that shouldn't be there. 1507 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,600 I know that sounds bad, but y'all know what I'm saying with 1508 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,240 that. But other than that, that rule 1509 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,200 that you have to abide by it, you should do everything you can 1510 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:35,120 to think these are the 36 fittest people like period in 1511 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,240 the whole competition, not just one, because that's how you have 1512 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,240 the best games, that's how you have the best turn out. 1513 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,880 That's how you have the most competitive games. 1514 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:44,840 And the semi finals are more exciting. 1515 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,200 Like I don't want to see a fan favorite not make it because the 1516 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:55,200 programming was open based and somebody got in that doesn't 1517 01:21:55,200 --> 01:22:01,920 deserve and and it moves into it helping 135 LB thruster would 1518 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,880 have qualified some men like that's crazy. 1519 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:10,680 And then you get then you go say that you have to go do a 275 LB 1520 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,040 clean and jerk. Yeah. 1521 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,800 It's a safety concern at that point. 1522 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,800 Well, what my point is, if they make it where it's not a safety 1523 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,880 concern. Because it's gated. 1524 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,920 Well, no, the quarterfinals, No, I'm saying like they like, just 1525 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,280 make it less like it's not as hard. 1526 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,640 And then and then what do we do it here? 1527 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,680 Like what? Like? 1528 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,160 Well, it it changes who makes, it changes who make semifinals. 1529 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,760 The semifinals, then, is different. 1530 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,080 Like it's completely. You want to see the sport die 1531 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,520 too? Cut out a bunch of athletes who 1532 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,760 should have made it. Yeah. 1533 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,920 And then your your sport dies in two years. 1534 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,440 Right. Look how much complaints there 1535 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:51,360 were in 2019 when people got cut and didn't make to the top 10. 1536 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:57,240 They're done by Friday. So that was my second one as 1537 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,360 well. So, Tyler. 1538 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:05,480 My second one is the shrinking athlete pool basically. 1539 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,760 And I've, I mean I've gone long winded about this in a bunch of 1540 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,720 different places. I think mostly in a text thread 1541 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,640 with us is that if you look in 2014, there were athletes 1542 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:19,200 everywhere because there were teams of six, there was 17 1543 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,440 regions, there were forty teams allowed. 1544 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,600 Yeah, I think it was 40 teams were allowed to go to regionals. 1545 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,920 There were 60 elite athletes allowed to go to each regional. 1546 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,000 I mean, you had athletes just coming out of the woodworks 1547 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:40,120 everywhere versus today it's four, four person teams, 20 1548 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:45,760 teams only go to the games, only 30 go to semi finals and now how 1549 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,560 many athletes go? It'll be 30, It'll be 30 teams 1550 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,840 at the game. 30 teams? Oh, thirty teams at the Games. 1551 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,920 But compared that to 10 years ago. 1552 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,920 I mean, it's just a microscopic amount of athletes. 1553 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:03,880 And now you're looking at North America is going to get less 1554 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,280 spots to the games. Essentially we just got cut semi 1555 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,800 final athletes again after last year. 1556 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,920 That's not the way you grow the sport. 1557 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,680 Every what is the one? More people making it. 1558 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,360 By less people making it. Yeah. 1559 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:29,320 So like the one reason everybody says people show up to CrossFit 1560 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,640 gyms is word of mouth. Somebody they knew go to goes to 1561 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,160 a CrossFit gym. That's amplified when it's an 1562 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,400 athlete who's on a team that's going to regionals. 1563 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,480 I know someone who competes at this like worldwide event. 1564 01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:44,240 It's it's huge, blah, blah, blah blah, blah. 1565 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,760 And so you ask your and then you get people who come in and train 1566 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,280 in the gyms because they're not that far fitness level from you. 1567 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,840 And then they see the the games team or the the semi finals team 1568 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,880 training. And so to me, I'm just like, I 1569 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,560 watch the athlete pool shrink and I'm like, that's how you 1570 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,440 kill the sport. Because we had a working model 1571 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:11,160 in 2017, yeah, or 14. It was expensive, but people 1572 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,080 were showing up. That's what I think about a lot 1573 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:18,600 disagree. I think it's. 1574 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:24,280 I think it speaks to the sport separating from the methodology 1575 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:32,560 and OK, how that is impacting it, I don't, I don't know if I'm 1576 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,400 on the same page fully with you of we need to have bigger teams 1577 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,960 and more back to 17 regions. I think that I. 1578 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,360 I I'm not by the way, just I think I think so. 1579 01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:47,240 This is where I would put my flag in. 1580 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,840 I don't make a lot of hard like hard stances. 1581 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,120 You're you all are wrong. Like I'm going to do a John 1582 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,320 Young on this. You're wrong. 1583 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,240 I don't like try to explain to me what why you're thinking, 1584 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,400 what you're thinking, but I don't. 1585 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,040 I I just can't understand how you could think this. 1586 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,120 There's there's new Bros coming in every year, though. 1587 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,840 Yeah, and the fucking bucket's leaking out the bottom. 1588 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,320 Why? Why don't you agree, John? 1589 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,560 I I agree with what? Give me like a A1 sentence. 1590 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,160 Why don't you agree with this? Because you you said a bunch of 1591 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,440 stuff. I think the death is a sport is 1592 01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:36,920 because we're cutting the the elite athletes out, the the pool 1593 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,600 of athletes who are considered elite. 1594 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,840 Oh, I was talking about your team thing. 1595 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,600 Not not. No, no, no, no, no. 1596 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,720 I mean, the team thing is part of it, but we keep cutting the 1597 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,360 athlete pool down and I think that that's killing the sport. 1598 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,280 Not even. Not even. 1599 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,560 Just cutting it down. It was 40 people. 1600 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,280 What do you mean we've cut? It down every fucking year. 1601 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:05,760 What are you saying? How it was like fucking 5000 1602 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,960 athletes in 2014 and now it's like less than 500? 1603 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,400 It's less. Than 300 in regionals, yes. 1604 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,440 I don't think it was 5000 athletes. 1605 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,040 It was a shit ton. There were 17 regions and every 1606 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,920 region had thirty teams with six athletes on. 1607 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,680 It oh, see, you're counting these teams. 1608 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,960 I'm talking about individuals. It doesn't matter anybody who's 1609 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,320 at a regional event competing as an athlete. 1610 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,840 OK. I don't think it was sustainable 1611 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,520 and I'm not sure you could consider those full on athletes. 1612 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:48,280 Like I get what you're saying, like there was something special 1613 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:52,840 about regionals where you sent your affiliate team there and 1614 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,120 everybody from your affiliate then went and cheered for you. 1615 01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,800 I don't think it progressed the sport. 1616 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,800 How we are worse off now than we were in 2014. 1617 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,320 So, so and where in your equation are we? 1618 01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:11,680 Are we better off because we made that that judgement call? 1619 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,120 Our How are we worse in 2014? I think there's more open 1620 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,440 registrations last year than there was in 2014. 1621 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,480 OK. And we're making so much more 1622 01:28:23,480 --> 01:28:26,400 money now than we did in 2000. 14 It didn't make any in 2014. 1623 01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:31,000 Yeah, we're not making any now. Unless people, how is it any 1624 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,400 worse? This is what I'm saying. 1625 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,400 Like less. People do the sport, man, and 1626 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,280 less people watch the sport than they did in 2014. 1627 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,920 I I think it did help the viewership of the sport. 1628 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,680 I will give you that because you had more people that were vested 1629 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,960 in your affiliate going there, even if you were 28th place and 1630 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:51,840 had. No shot, actually. 1631 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,600 Qualified. Yeah, but there was more onus on 1632 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,880 like the Affiliate Cup, too. It was like affiliate pride. 1633 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,880 And like that was a thing, and it's not a thing anymore. 1634 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,280 Now how can I can can you make that a thing? 1635 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:04,960 Is that what you're saying? Like you want to make that a 1636 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,680 thing again? Because I just think people 1637 01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,120 cheated too much. I don't care about. 1638 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,520 I don't care about super teams. I've never cared about that. 1639 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,600 But what people care about is they don't want to travel to 1640 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,040 Miami to go watch this event. For the most part. 1641 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,560 They want to go to a state, one state over that they can drive 1642 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,360 to and kind of watch whoever they know compete. 1643 01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:25,880 That's why they care about this sport. 1644 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,600 They don't care about it for Pat Bellner, but they start to. 1645 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,920 Care, they start. To care about Pat Bellner. 1646 01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,800 Because they went and watched you, John. 1647 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,160 Your mom and dad started watching you, and now they know 1648 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,520 who Pat Villainer is. Oh, they knew Pat Villainer way 1649 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,840 before I was anything CrossFit. OK, you specifically, but most 1650 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,600 people my dad did not know who any of these athletes are now 1651 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,640 does. I see what you're saying. 1652 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,880 I see what you're saying because you're in, you're into. 1653 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,960 It and that's amplified because of people who are considered 1654 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,680 athletes. So you want to walk. 1655 01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:06,200 Your thing is, in regional days there were more people that 1656 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,400 would consider them athletes, but basically because we made it 1657 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,280 easier to get there. Yes. 1658 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:19,160 And you it it was. And how are you saying that's? 1659 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:24,880 Why do you think Grid went from basically CPR dead, Bring the 1660 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,560 paddles out dead to now having the following that they have. 1661 01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,120 And now that people have been talking about Grid in the 1662 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:36,040 comments they were dead. It's because they let little 1663 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,800 people who aren't really all that athletic compete on their 1664 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,440 teams. There's 20 people on their 1665 01:30:42,440 --> 01:30:44,360 teams. They were nothing. 1666 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:51,400 Dude, we can move on. I, I, I OK, OK, OK, I I see your 1667 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,000 point of view and I see why you have it. 1668 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,880 And I'm not even saying you're wrong. 1669 01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,840 OK, good. Just not. 1670 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:05,280 Can we preface it with that I think the passion that you have 1671 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:12,280 for this is either one cannot work like it used to, or two. 1672 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:18,480 And then like, my point of view is I don't care about the means 1673 01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:20,480 of the world. I don't care. 1674 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,120 I get people from my gym. We're going to do regionals, and 1675 01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,400 I know they were trash and they only got in because they're 1676 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,600 trash, but they were the only ones who wanted to do it. 1677 01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,800 I I'm going to be like, OK, try not to get laughs. 1678 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,000 By. Lying and and I'm going to no, 1679 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,560 no, no, I'm going to support them. 1680 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,520 I'm going to support them, but I don't care. 1681 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,080 You're going. To like somebody in your 1682 01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:43,360 somebody in your gym who doesn't know anything about the the 1683 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:50,800 games would go watch you and your team go to regionals if you 1684 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,360 had to just go to Dallas. Yeah, yeah. 1685 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,680 No, I do. That's the point. 1686 01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,760 And then and then would they then watch the sport more 1687 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:04,480 closely because they then got to see Ariel Lowen in person to win 1688 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:06,920 her regional? I, I I see. 1689 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:07,960 I see your point. Yep. 1690 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:14,640 Now how do you make that happen? You. 1691 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,480 Well, that's my point. That's my point. 1692 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:22,160 I think making it happen is it's like a happy thought, like what 1693 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,240 you're saying I agree with. How do we make it? 1694 01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:26,720 Happen. There's no. 1695 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,640 Answer There is an answer, it's just long winded. 1696 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,800 More long winded than we want to put into this than we already 1697 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:37,240 have. John, you got another one? 1698 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,000 Man, is this what John feels like all the time. 1699 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,200 I don't ever talk that much. I know it kind of. 1700 01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,320 I don't know. I was so thrown for a loop I was 1701 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:55,600 trying to have to come and use this but I would say I I I think 1702 01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,440 I this is just something I think about every day right? 1703 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,720 Yeah, the Old Testament. Yeah, I I frequently think 1704 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:13,240 numbers and the measurements of the Ark of the Covenant, it's 1705 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:18,560 like 30,000 cubits and I make that conversion and we're all 1706 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,760 good to go. I would say I think about the 1707 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,280 top. The top like Ricky, Roman and 1708 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:30,640 Jeff a lot. Any I try to consume any content 1709 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:37,280 that has that I think can make me see an edge on any of those 1710 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:41,960 three, if that makes sense. I think those three are the 1711 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:47,120 running for the games champion. I think T is going to win and 1712 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,760 it's not even close. I think Laura is going to be 1713 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,400 second unless there's handstand push ups, an actual handstand 1714 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,400 push up event and then Emma Lawson will be second, Laura 1715 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,120 will be third. I think it's a done deal, but 1716 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,560 like those three, I think anything can happen. 1717 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:03,320 I think the programming really, really, really matters a lot. 1718 01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:06,760 But, and so, like I watch. I watch anything that has those 1719 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,200 three in it. 3000 cubits, 3000 Cubits. 1720 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,240 I'm just making stuff up, Bernie. 1721 01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,040 I don't know if you figured that out yet, but a lot of times. 1722 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:16,640 I didn't give a shit about the ARC. 1723 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,560 I'm just. I'm just talking. 1724 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,880 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not seeing the arc. 1725 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,720 I have read the Old Testament, Tyler. 1726 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,560 I'm making fun of the Old Testament. 1727 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,320 Listen, y'all want to go on like a Bible quiz show because I will 1728 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,800 call y'all up, OK? Like we can test our knowledge. 1729 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,000 And like I promise you, Old Testament only and we'll see. 1730 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,480 We'll see who's who knows. What? 1731 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,400 Oh, you'll lose so fast. Who am I going to lose to? 1732 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,120 I'll bet money. I'll bet I'll bet anything. 1733 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,400 You'll lose so. Fast. 1734 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,200 Anyway, so I think, I I think of those three, I think it's 1735 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,840 between those 3. I know it's not a popular 1736 01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,520 answer, but like as far as things that I talk, I think 1737 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,840 about the most and that that probably comes to my mind. 1738 01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:07,440 We'll do real quick last one. I wonder what's going to happen 1739 01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:10,440 with the age groups and Adaptives this coming year. 1740 01:35:10,440 --> 01:35:13,560 I think it's a bad decision to do it after the games. 1741 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,400 We know Adaptives is in September. 1742 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,160 It's the same time as Tierrawatapaloosa, Socal, same 1743 01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,520 weekend. I get a feeling that that's when 1744 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,000 teams and masters. It could be also at sometime 1745 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:35,960 after the games where everybody has lost interest or takes time 1746 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,800 away from the cross following CrossFit. 1747 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,240 And if you don't have the coverage, you don't have the 1748 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:46,840 following like do the big name masters athletes go to go 1749 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,840 compete with? No. 1750 01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:54,520 You know, live stream, they're not there for their sponsors. 1751 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,880 They're they're just kind of doing it for their own pride. 1752 01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,200 I don't think so. Right. 1753 01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,400 Like you'll still get Jason Grubbs, you'll still get those 1754 01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,280 who love competing. But I don't think you're going 1755 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:10,160 to see like a or a Chris Bueller come back like you did. 1756 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,680 Was it 2019? He came back. 1757 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,240 I still don't think you do that when you're segregated by 1758 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:22,520 yourself, right? And So what does the future look 1759 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,640 like for those guys? And does it? 1760 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,680 Is it kind of just off on its own? 1761 01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:33,080 Not a lot of fanfare? Again, it shrinks and it's still 1762 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,320 cool for those who compete, but it's just not what it was this 1763 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:38,720 year or even the year before that. 1764 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,240 Right. I don't think I disagree with 1765 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,280 you. I hate it 'cause I think most of 1766 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:48,960 our takes are negative. I mean, I'd, I'd love to say 1767 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:53,640 surprise, but I don't know, Tyler, do you have another one? 1768 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,240 I don't. I don't think I do. 1769 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,520 I'm spent. I spent all my energy. 1770 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,000 There you go. All right, well, that's it. 1771 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,640 In your comments, let's hear what your Roman Empire is so we 1772 01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,000 can read those off and react to them next week. 1773 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,640 Also, go ahead and like and subscribe. 1774 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,360 Get those subscribe numbers up. We continually have more people 1775 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,120 watching than are subscribing, so we know you're out there. 1776 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,520 That makes sense. I know, I know. 1777 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,040 New viewers every week. Think you'll ever get the other 1778 01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:27,640 way around? I. 1779 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:30,680 Don't know. I mean, I I think I, I 1780 01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,400 appreciate having more viewers than subscribers. 1781 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,560 Yeah, that's at least we don't have a dead audience like some 1782 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,120 people do. So I. 1783 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,080 Just don't know. Like it's so easy. 1784 01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,160 Like when you get the alert on your phone, it's like, hey, this 1785 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,400 person's shows coming up. Like I don't know how people 1786 01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,360 remember to watch this. I mean, I know it's at the same 1787 01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,000 time every. Night, same time we remember, I 1788 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:58,760 think, who was it? A HA8008 said We were the the 1789 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,840 best CrossFit show on Wednesday nights at 6:30 Central. 1790 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:06,680 So pretty impressive right there. 1791 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:11,360 All right guys, until next week. Thanks. 1792 01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:13,800 If I, if anybody, if anybody's going to be at the.