Welcome Thursday afternoon edition of the Spin Yeah day
Later. Unacceptable.
What are you talking about? Is that really the?
Is that really the Jason Hopper? No one will ever know you need a
check mark. Jason, is it?
Is that like the Scott Pan chick?
No, I think that's the real one that.
Was really Scott? Dude, yeah, it's definitely
really Scott too. I love how he commented on
Instagram that that was not me. Like it wasn't like it wasn't,
you know, he. Had no idea until I put that
clip up. Yeah.
Welcome day off. I figured we'd catch up.
There's way too much to talk about.
Mr. Jr. Howell will be joining us at
some point here. His daughter had a little bit of
a Boo Boo and he had the good deal with that.
So hopefully he'll get here sooner than later.
We'll talk about some of that. Well, I'll do some special blind
rankings. It will keep Jr. for that.
I think you might appreciate that We'll answer the.
Question. Big fan of blind rankings.
Oh, I'm sure he'll love it. Do we hate the WFP?
We'll answer that question for you.
Barry Mccochner wants to know a good question.
Where is your WFP gear? The good answer is.
Not an on would. A.
Would a hater wear WFP? I actually think we're three
different levels on that question.
Do you? Yeah.
And it's definitely from left to right, but we'll get there when
we get there. Be like It'll be like a
political show. It'll be everybody thinks we.
Can. No, no, no.
I think you're a Republican. May you think so.
OK, All right. And then we'll talk about some
semifinals and penalties and whatever else in the CrossFit
world that we feel like talking about.
See. Meandering show.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
Whenever Jr. shows up, we will know we're we're always late.
It's. Just 24 hours and 2 minutes.
That's right. Yeah.
We might be jumping around. We may have a special guest
later on. I don't know.
We're trying to pull something off here.
We'll see. All right.
As always, though, we'll start with viewer comments.
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All right. Well, since I was out last week,
you guys generated quite a few comments.
The comments, the volume of comments was crazy.
Yeah, it was a good job guys. I had a lot to choose from.
It's hard to choose from a lot of them.
It's because I didn't look at the comments last week.
They were like, all right, now ours.
Now's our chance. Yeah, yeah.
I watched that back and I was like viewer comments.
You read 1, then you're like, all right, we're up.
Thanks. Dude, he struggled on that one
too. That one took 5 minutes.
But you know, when you have the the most accurate representation
of CrossFit fitness ever known to man, it's going to it's going
to bring some comments there. Natalie, that's a good question.
Do we ever buy Tyler a baby present?
No, we're just going to give him cold hard cash so he can buy
whatever. I'm jealous.
Of that I told. I told.
Tyler, I said. Look.
You're going to buy a PlayStation.
I said to put something on there and then she's like everybody
had bought everything by then, so.
I it will go to diapers and all the diaper, diapers and C.
Four and what's you're on Rockstar these.
Any updates on that? I'm trying to work on our
Rockstar sponsorship by the way. Would you any updates?
Yeah. We'll see if I disappear.
Do you know what's? Happening I'm talking about the
Rockstar sponsorship, not I don't care about I'm just
kidding. I'm just kidding I'm just
kidding I'm just kidding. But it's it's, it could happen
like at any moment, right in. Fact.
Literally. Yeah, are.
We talking about Rockstar or the baby?
The baby, yeah. Yeah, OK Jason Hopper enjoyed
hanging with Tyler this weekend. I actually took my sunglasses
off so people knew who I was, unlike others.
I actually love that dude. I freaking loved.
It. How did how did Hillary pull
that off? We should we should he should
take like he should have had like secret videos like I'm in
The Cave, but but like and then show Bruce Wayne like entering
Wayne building and like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, like and people don't know who he is.
That's his disguise. He should have filmed it that
way. Like the whole the whole reel
that like you get when Batman leaves the bat cave, like he
fires up his Jeep, like all that stuff.
It's like this man is Batman's disguise like, and then that's
what Hitler should have had done.
Could you guys tell by the footage?
I don't know that he was there all three days.
I think he just snuck in for one day and left.
I think it was Friday. I don't go ahead.
There was 1 moment where I thought I saw him and then like
I turned around and that person was gone and I was like my
head's just fucking with me and then I was and then like.
I saw that he was there and I was like.
Did I see? Him and you know he saw you, so
you'd be like. You know what's crazy is like
all it would take is one person to recognize him.
It's over. And then it's over because
people would start talking like, how did you see Hiller?
And then it'd just be everybody would be talking about it.
Big thank you. What's?
Up, Andrew. All right.
Yeah, but you're not, you're not the regular fan.
I think I've been more like, I can't believe Hiller's actually
at this. Yeah, big thank you to Sarah Cox
for let me hang out in the VIP suite.
We'll, we'll. Definitely have to get to that
after we read the comments. All right, first one at Dave Dad
versus dad bod 8188. I'd honestly pay for a show with
Caleb Bryson. I mean, they're super chats.
We can do this. I think they do that.
On a way you see meaning Caleb and Bryson or?
Caleb and Bryson, OK, OK, yeah, those two guys, yeah, super chat
it. I think once you saw the show
you might ask for a refund, but we could.
We can do it. Though it's it, there's no
refunds, so go for it. Let's see at Martin's Juno.
This Sea Beaver guy doesn't know anything about CrossFit as a
sport. I don't think he claims to.
Yeah. We we were.
We were. We were.
Short on people, guys like we
to. Get some however, at sea Beaver
wanted to say no, but I know a lot about your mom.
Seems like a nice lady but I'm not calling her back so boom
roasted at Carter Peterson 7 James over Dallin referring to
your games mountain. Yes, U2F is going on in here.
I'm telling you what's going to happen.
I think we should. I think I should start going by
John Stradamus from now on because, because if I put it out
there, that's what's going to happen.
You guys will start listening sooner and later.
Yeah, yeah, we'll get to this at Misha 1147.
More mountain talk. Humiliating mountain of mud I
don't care about online puts Meiha over Brooke both because
of what they did online well. When that's all I have to go off
of, you tell me the in person competition that Brooke did
where she deserves to be ahead of Meiha.
There's not. 1. There's not one.
I bet you she regrets not doing Mayhem now.
I mean I I hope she does syndicate but.
I hope so. You know, right now Juan's got a
games ticket and won, won the online semi finals now that they
all the penalties have come out, which is wild.
Yeah. And I think she's earned that
spot on the bottom row of the mountain.
Yeah, I mean, she looks very, very good.
And and I mean, those are hard. Those are hard events.
Or you know, like, it wasn't like they were open workouts.
Yeah, and it's not that it doesn't matter at all, it's that
the IT matters less than what Mayhem in person is.
Does that make sense? And like, I look at the World
Fitness Project and I will get to it 'cause I said that didn't
matter either. I'm saying it does not rogue,
it's not Wadapalooza. It's not one of the biggest
CrossFit Games events there is, even though it has a huge talent
pool. I, I'm aware, but clearly, like,
you know, when you got Veldner and Laura being 70% of
themselves, it's not as serious as I would say, like the three
biggest competitions that we had or people vying for their game
spots like they were at mayhem. So I the in affiliate the online
semi final matters. World fitness project matters,
but at a lesser rate than those other ones do.
That's what I'm referring to when I say it doesn't matter.
It's like when I say I don't care about the people that don't
matter All of a sudden when freaking one of the Syria Miha
wins the online semi finals. Oh, shoot, you all of a sudden
matter. I should probably figure out
what the freak you're about like, you know, you know what
I'm saying? But if you're 32nd and somebody
says you have potential, I don't care about you until you show me
that you mean something. And that's that's how that work.
I don't know why people have a like or have complicated this or
have a hard time understanding this.
Me either, the mountain is so simple.
The mountain is fair. It is.
And you tell me. You tell me, you guys tell me.
OK, you put Brooke and and Syria.
We got it. We need to figure out how to say
it. I think it's Syria.
Syria or Syria? I like Syria a lot better,
Sercia. That's Sercia.
Definitely not Sercia. You tell me which one's done
more for this this year? Which one's deserving of being
higher this year for what they've done this year?
Yeah, Fergie for $1.99. What is the favorite Knoxville
restaurants? I bet it's within 5 miles of
McDonald's, but I'm not sure from there.
OK, so here's what you want to do you the best restaurant in
Knoxville is actually in Clinton, which is not in
Knoxville. You want to go to Big Ed's Pizza
in Clinton? There you.
Go I need to I need because we we're still confused here.
Royal Fitness project was far superior talent.
Why swat of pollutants and women in men's fields not even close.
Tanner, you're right. I think this comment is biased
because you were there, but it you people the prize at the end
of it is not $100,000. Half of the field is not like
not trying. Everybody is peeking out for
this competition. Everybody wants to be great.
People are just showing up for a paycheck.
Tanner, it's big time different. And yes, the fittest of the
world are still there. They're still competing like I'm
not. I think half of it and Tyler,
Tyler said this earlier, I think half of the field is competing
and half of the field is just there for their paycheck and
that's fine. But that I don't maybe it was,
it was Bryson, I thought you sounded good, but that's a
different competition. Whenever you're like people are
trying and people aren't trying, then you're the people who are
trying. Your lowest spot you're going to
get is like 11th place because they're all the 10 are not
trying and I know you're trying Tanner, but you're not fit
enough to matter yet in a. Competition, that's.
Like that and maybe you'll get there one day, but right now you
don't make a difference in those kind of competitions.
But I hope you do one day. Tanner.
I love you. Tanner.
You're you're you are you are great there.
You go Tanner. Was it both?
And what place did you come in in both those competitions?
Because I'll ask Dallin and I bet Dallin gives me a different
answer. So if you 2 are giving me
different answers, what's that mean to you?
Dallin's a liar. Well, let's let's get off of it.
You're great. You're great, Tanner.
Go look at Tanner. Let's see Misha continues 3 day
competition with literally all the big names in the sport.
Not a single word on it. Pathetic in quote.
They won't try because they get paid over.
Get over yourself and admit when you're wrong.
Love the show and watch every week but this was just all just
very childish. Is this US transitioning?
I I was jumping 2 topics. I feel like you should.
We should have two different viewer.
Comments. This was 2.
This was 2 comments by the same viewer.
No, no, no. He's.
No. Are we are we switching
sections? Here to do we hate the WFP he's
saying I. No, this is this is, this was a
comment by Amisha, Frankie said. I know Spin is so pissed that
the WFP is going really well even though he's going to
pretend it doesn't bother him. Remembering COVID, you remember,
I'm sorry, you remember during the 49ers game when everything
was like, yeah, we should definitely do go to the 49ers
game. And then it was like, oh, maybe
maybe we should watch the 49ers game from the, you know, the,
the cheap sheet seats. And then it was like, oh, maybe
we should watch it from the parking lot.
And it's like, oh, maybe the 49ers suck sometimes.
That's what happens. Well, I'll answer the question.
I'm not sure I'm pissed, but yeah, well, I will, I think.
I think, I think you would have rather them not be great.
Is that fair? To say, oh, you mean you're
saying we're bias? No, just what you want to
happen. No, I still, that's what I'm
saying. I was watching Clydesdale on my
way home and he had Kotler on and I asked some questions about
it. And I I think between listen and
we'll get more into it. But I think listening to train
think tanks show that was what was that put out this morning
and hit listening to Kotler and everything I've started to hear
like when they talk about and what I've been seeing of what
athletes are doing, it's starting to turn into what my
fear is. And I'll, I'll explain it later.
So just stay with me. Oh God.
I'm here for it, I'm here for it and I'm gonna tell y'all right
now. Spin is absolutely correct.
I don't know what what we're talking about, but Spin is
absolutely correct. And what he's going to say, it
doesn't. You could still have your
opinion, but I'm not. Gonna have your opinion but
you're wrong. All right all right, we got a
CrossFit not cringe story, so it's a little long, but I think
it's definitely worth it. So you gotta stay with me the
account the account user is the pen is blue one or the penis
blue one. I'm not sure which one it is,
but the pen is blue one is the one I'm.
Gonna go with That's a good one. All right, CrossFit, not cringe.
This is wild. So first day at a new gym, 5:00
AM class and I plan to get there like 15 minutes early to get my
waiver signed account activated. I did take him two weeks off of
training which means I was eating like crap.
As I drive to the gym the pre workout starts brewing in my
belly, mixing with two weeks of bad decisions.
When I park at the gym, nobody is there yet.
I'm running around the gym in a panic trying to find a safe
place to relieve myself. There wasn't one at this point,
there isn't enough time to leave.
The end was near. I got back into into the back
seat of my forerunner and filled a large McDonald's cup to the
brim with the unspeakable. At this moment, people start.
Pause, pause. I.
There's no way I could trust myself to land in that small of
an area, especially like if it's explosive, you're blowing out
everywhere and I'm definitely not doing that in the
Forerunner. It's not it's not their first
time, Tyler. This ain't the first rodeo.
I don't want to say anything, but I am the person that put.
That I'm just kidding. Your pen is blue.
No, I'd never come. Let's see, at this moment people
start showing up to the gym. I panic to pull up my shorts and
get out, but the child locks her on so I have to crawl to the
front seat and get out, all while people are walking past me
to go inside. I left the hot shake in my truck
and went inside to be greeted by the owner who hands me the iPad
to get my membership started. After 30 seconds, I politely
excused myself to clean up the train wreck in my pants.
Nobody ever suspected what actually did that, what I did
that morning in the parking lot and I never spoke of it.
Oh yeah, I threw the hot shake in a public trash can on my way
home. This guy's out there.
He's roaming around, he could be anybody, and he's listening to
this show. I'm going to tell you something.
I think all of them did, No. And nobody just said anything.
Yeah, Everybody's just cool. They're like, yeah, this dude
smells like. He's one of he's from one of
those like colonies. Like he's.
Like. Yeah, I think Crossfat got it
right. Yeah.
I don't know how you how you do that.
Yeah, you got to wear like, like super thick Cologne the next
three weeks to make people forget.
That's so that was Gabe's burner account.
We figured it out. Totally can relate.
So eat clean. I think it's the moral of the
story there, all right. I've never had that issue.
Pre workout responsibly, folks. Yeah.
Where do you want to go next? We got like 7 minutes I think
until Jr. Hopefully will be able to to
join us. Do we want to get knee deep into
WFP stuff? I think that's going to last
longer than 7 minutes. I you want to go blind rankings
and then we'll go Jr. and then we'll dive into WFP.
Semifinals Penalties. Or we can do that, yeah.
Semifinals penalties can probably be pretty quick.
Semifinals, penalties, I think they're done with them as far as
men was light. Men.
The men were. The men were light.
Yeah. Semifinals penalties Brick
Wells, top 11 out. Olivia Kursetter, top 11 out.
Who else was it? Kyra Milligan who?
Got there, Caroline Stanley was out, got penalized out, Kyra
Milligan got bumped up until they then naked her score.
So she is out and now we have a top, a top 11.
Guys, Miriam von Rohr. Holding it down and.
That's why I said her name correctly, because she is now a
CrossFit Games act. She's earned it.
She's earned me saying Miram, Miram out of second.
She sucks. We're going to go back to a hard
H Miram. Here.
We go era Lowen got penalized and that put Sriracha on #1.
Sriracha, you better. Put respect on her name.
Did you all watch her videos? Yeah.
Yeah, I watched to make sure, like.
She moved properly. She moved.
Clean all of them. He's legit.
Man, I mean, I don't know, she doesn't look like a whole lot
bigger either. I mean, I'm not going to.
I know I'm not like the expert in P people doing some stuff,
but she doesn't look like she's done some stuff, you know?
She just, I mean, it could just be time, man.
Like she just finally hit that hit that precipice.
Thing she I'm not I'm not saying she is legit, but she looks
legit and now live competition's far different.
I'm it's not like I'm going to put her high up at like my games
rankings when I we make them, but she looks legit.
So I'm not going to speak poorly on her until poorly comes upon
her. But the yeah, dude, I'm excited
to see her. Where's she from?
Albania. Albania.
That's right, Annika Greer, Albania, not 12th place, so
that's good. Yeah, my opinion on Annika has
not changed at all. If you run, if you run at the
games, then what are we then She, is she, what's she going to
be? I mean no offense, but if it was
at 24 games. Last place it.
Would not be good. She would be underneath Laura,
who quit in three events. Yeah, Maddie Sturt.
No surprise. Danielle Brandon, were you
surprised that? No, no penalties on her cleaning
jerks. What was wrong with them elbows?
Everybody was starting to get angry on the the jerk that it
was made a full lockout or is it was a little bit.
No, I mean, I think people are being a little bit too anal in
that circumstance. I, I don't, I, I think it's
fine. I think she's fine.
I I going back up I, I agree I, I did not think that that was
one that warranted a penalty. I was surprised that Ariel's
score was not hit as hard. But with that, we're going to
stop talking about all of that. We'll.
Come back to that. Yeah, we'll come back to that.
We'll do that later. What's more important is Mr. Jr.
Howell. Welcome to the show.
What's up? What are we?
What did I miss? Who fell off the mountain?
Who's? No, we're actually going to
repeat this Crossfitter cringe story that I think, I think, I
think, I think you, I think you can relate to honestly, Jr.
Is Jr. Pen is blue it?
Could be Did you? Have you ever gone to a 5:00 AM
class and the pre workout and your bad bad habits of eating
catch up with you and you have to take a dump in a McDonald's
cup? Oh, we know it's your.
It's McDonald's cup. Nope, not Jr.
It's not me, by the way, Jr., this is a random.
Story has to be about. I was about to say it has to be
about John. If it's more if it's McDonald's.
No, I have the stomach of iron. OK, I nothing happens.
You only eat like three things. And and they work.
Beautifully for it. We don't have a stomach of iron.
Well, we don't know what kind of stomach I had.
It's not about me, Jr., OK? Let's let's move on.
First off, Jr., your daughter, all right.
Yeah, 6 stitches good as. Not bad.
Yeah, let's be the story. She she split it up and pretty
good, just right under the chin. That's a good one.
It was a lot of blood that that that's what freaked her out.
So it kind of sent her into a panic.
I'm just glad I was there because I'm like super calm.
And if my wife would have been there, it'd just been Becca.
I mean, when she walked into urgent care, she just
immediately. Started crying so.
Yeah, my youngest, I guess he was probably 5 or 6, was
skipping around on Halloween one Halloween night and tripped over
the like one of the little mats we have and hit his eye right
above, like here and like, it bleeds a lot.
And it was Halloween night. So yeah, that was a fun.
I have that. I have that same spot.
I, I stole a ball from a guy in a basketball game and hit the
shit out of his head and his head split open on the top and
my eye split open. Went and laid it up and
everybody was just looking at me like what, What are you doing?
And it was just like gushing blood, but I couldn't see it
'cause it wasn't in my eye. And I was like, why is everybody
stopped? They were like, well number one,
you found the shit out of him and your eyes open.
Welcome boys on the right. You guys will be there soon
enough. Yeah.
Yeah, Tyler's any minute now. You'll be freaking out about
cutting their toenails, you know.
Yeah, that'll be good. All right.
Well, the reason we had you jump on you actually you're.
Talking about you want to talk about cutting toenails that is
all right. Well, yeah, we can clip that.
Yeah, we're. Talking about buttered sausage.
Dude, Leslie. Leslie clipped Abby's
fingernails. I don't know.
I went for toenails, fingernails and like got her finger a little
bit and like started in like blood actually extremely hard to
cut their toenails. That's why I said.
That and I knew you. Weren't going to do it.
I knew it. Was and yeah, and she, she got
blood came up and then Abby started screaming and she's
like, she's like, I don't. Know what to do I was.
Like well. Maybe don't clip her nails?
Until we like, we can. I don't know.
Like wait till she's 5. Yeah, wait till her appointment.
And then, and then she's and then she went to clip the dog's
nails and they ran away from her heart while the dogs were not
about it. Nail clipping day.
You guys hadn't paid attention. It was Wednesday, yesterday.
Obviously that's when big news comes out and that's why, of
course, we didn't do the show. But the workouts, the events,
they're here. They're here.
Mr. J Howard programmed them so. Dude, I didn't talk.
I they never even came up, not once.
I'm I'm I'm offended at the text messages.
Honestly, quite frankly, proudly, I was offended of.
Them made it buddy. We're proud of you.
Yeah, I didn't. Get any?
I didn't get any direct messages about leaks that were actually
true. So that was nice.
And I, to be honest, I mean, Wilson's known the workout since
December. The testing people have known
them since maybe January at the latest.
Like all the the staff, like the scoring, the judges, so many
people have known for so long that it's made me really, really
anxious. So it's nice to know that people
are trustworthy. Except me, who you know needs to
plan the production. But it's a whole different
issue. What?
What's funny is you, you had sent me the workouts what, like
that morning or that night or the night before.
And so I was getting it ready. But I was curious if Wilson was
going to mess up and put him on the website early and he did not
get him password protected till the last minute.
Dude, Wilson. Wilson's like, on top of it,
man. He, he told me, he told me that
specifically on Wednesday morning, he said, hey, here's
your, here's a link to the website that like here's the
code and it will not go live until after 12.
So that spin doesn't get him early.
Yeah, No, he was. He thought of you Spin.
I checked. I.
Found the URL even though there wasn't a link to it.
I found it and I sent a screenshot.
I. Was trying.
I said well played. He was on the phone with or we
were on a call with him. When he when you did that, he
was like, I freaking told you he's going to do this.
Hey, I mean Norcal, they they put stuff out there didn't think
anybody would check their website and I did.
So you know, it happens, the events Friday.
Heavy Isabel. Yeah.
And let me just say, let me just interrupt you real quick.
Spin. I mean he.
Made it 5-4. What started out, what's what I
mean, go ahead and go to the first lot.
What started out is like, I mean, I built the whole
competition off of this workout. The whole thing.
Really. This is the.
One, it kind of needed to be. Dude in in November, in
November, I texted Bill and Chase and I said right after
Rogue and I said, hey, you guys, you know, they did like 30
sandbag Queens per time. What do you think about, you
know, Rogue has done 30 cleaning jerks per time.
What do you think about doing 30 snatches like Heavy Isabel, like
Rich and Matt did? Like in a competition, He's
like, I think it's cool for a strength workout, not for a
finale. It's a little bit slow.
And I was like, cool. And so I right then I was like,
I'm going to do this. Obviously someone who actually.
Did it? That AdvoCare had the same idea.
And then from then on it becomes everyone's done it and
everyone's tired of it. And now every time I see this
workout or think about this workout, I just get angry and I
cannot tell you how glad I am that it's Event 1 and I don't
have to think about it anymore. I'm sorry man, I, I, I feel for
you. How?
Crazy is that it sounds like everybody was kind of thinking
about it. It's like even even Castro and
Bosman, I think, I really think two people were thinking.
About it. And then it made everybody want
to do it. I wonder too, like my knowledge
like Bos and Dave didn't get our workouts early.
Just like hey, let me see what you guys got.
You know, if I were them, I would want to know just because
I'm a nerd. But like, I, I wonder too, if,
you know, Dave's doesn't know me at all and knows Rich really
well. If he was like, what are you
guys doing at Mayhem? And he sent him and he's like,
oh, Eddie, Isabel's cool. Maybe we'll do that.
But you know who? Knows, I think, I think David in
one of his week reviews said that they were kind of actually
toying with the idea ahead of time and then heard it and
they're like, then they had a discussion about do we change
it? Do we keep it?
And the decision was, let's just go ahead and keep it.
Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about
the same workout all the way across from that.
I I do agree that having it as a finale was it Wadlin Fest that
did it as the finale. Yes, yes.
Yeah, it was not as exciting as you would hope for a final
event. Yeah.
And, and honestly too, like this
is a good time to bring up all you people that think we need to
have uniform programming. Remind yourselves how sick and
tired you get of, of seeing the same workouts for four or five
straight weeks. And we've only seen this one at
almost all of them. I would be surprised if if
Torian did it. I'd be surprised if Asia did it.
I think Rebel will do it because.
They just announced it. It was like and then some, some
of those same ones rather doing the 303030 workouts.
So that's just. 2. Like it's a lot more fun when
people do their own thing and one or two maybe that are
consistent is OK. Especially I think if it's a
strength workout, it's good to know that aw man, that guy's
really weak overhead. He just got lucky that it was a
clean jerk ladder or a clean ladder and not a snatch ladder
because he wouldn't be going to the game.
So in a way, I think that it being the strength workout is is
a good thing. But I think this goes to show
you how tiring it can be. Well.
And I think. Especially when some of the same
athletes are doing it, you know what I mean?
Because it's not like, like, you know, athletes get to go to
multiple things and they do it and they did and they did it in
the in affiliate one too, which makes it like OK, like.
Yeah, like, like Olivia Kerstetter has to do it this
weekend at TFX. And I know.
She's going to win it. Like sure.
Yeah, and I mean, you know, we'll get to it with these
events, but I don't believe in coincidences that are this
broad. But there for a little while,
like after Fibonacci, the overhead walking lunge was the
thing. People would do it.
People did it in elimination style workouts.
People, people just love the overhead lunge.
They loved it. Then it went away.
It went away for years. Wadlin had a single arm.
Mayhem had a single arm. French Throwdown had an axle
bar. I have dual kettle bells.
An affiliate has dual dumbbells. Come on.
World Fitness Project has the finale.
Had doubled. You can't just I just don't
believe that all these programmers just all of a sudden
this year was like, you know what, we should bring back the
overhead lunch. I think people talk a lot more
than they than they admit, but I kind of wish I was one of those
dudes because I don't talk to anybody.
That's this is a good point right here.
I would I would actually push back that maybe Taurian will do
a classic like back. Out.
Or like lift, yeah. So I mean, who doesn't want to
watch Gee and even guys like Jake Douglas, like super strong
too. I mean, I'm sure I'm sure he's
in the field, right? So.
Yeah, all the, all the. Pyrotechnics and everything too.
I mean, that's an electric atmosphere.
Everyone wants to watch people lift heavy.
So. I I just want some spotlights.
Yeah, I think when like the other news that came out this
week about the last chance qualifier, I think a lot of
people said why did you just give 12th place to the last
chance qualifier? I think goes to your point of
it's the same programming, right?
Like my concern when Heavy Isabel was going to be
programmed every time is like somebody like Emily Rolf is
going to struggle to get in because of that one strength
workout. Right.
And I get that the semifinals have used to be, you know, last
year was the same program and all across the board.
But when you go to the sanctional type structure and
athletes are to have some type of options available like you
would expect them to be able to have.
Maybe I'll like a different type of programmer or, you know, over
the over the years, you can go somewhere else.
The Last Chance qualifier gives these athletes a different path,
different workouts, still testing them in a different way,
but they're not limited to buy 30 heavy snatches.
I think one of the workouts for last chance qualifier is going
to be heavy Isabel. I sure hope not.
I disagree. I'm I'm, I'm kidding.
I thought, I didn't think you guys would take me seriously,
but you did. So let's just move on, all.
Right heavy, Isabel. I don't think there's too much
to talk about. Good news is it's the first one
like Jr. said, so we'll move on. Friday afternoon Regionals
Revenge the Hundreds 100 slash 80 calorie Echo bike 100 toes to
bar, 100 bar facing burpees 100 front squats at 115 slash 85
lbs. A long workout.
Yeah, long a long old school workout, right?
So I mean, we can go way, way back guys.
The 1st 100th shipper is Angie. That's the first 100 shipper,
right? 100 pull ups, 100 push ups, 100
sit ups, 100 squats and then regionals one year.
I think that one that was like 100 overhead squats, 100 pull
ups, 100 double unders, which back in the day, you know, that
would have take I think 2011 that that's probably took some
people 5 seconds. It's crazy how far we've come.
But then the most recent one, you know, is the one that you
remember Khalifa doing like the final week and trying to break
the time to be trying to be richest time, I believe.
But 120, I'm sorry, 100 wall ball, 100 chest of our 100
pistols, 100 dumbbell snatch with the 70 back when no one
knew how to touch and go anything and everyone was
everyone was doing singles alternating and it was just
disgusting. So yeah, I mean, this is kind of
a theme throughout, but my primary goal obviously is to get
the right two people to games. After that, I think it
everything else needs to be a a far second.
But I do really like to call back some things that maybe
people don't do anymore in their training, like stuff like this.
We're like, hey, this is all I'm doing today.
I'm doing this 20 minute workout that is not just going to be
sitting on three ergs or is not going to be a bunch of running
and it's just going to be classic CrossFit.
And I'm going to have to deal with these really big sets and
try to strategize how to get through them.
And then also like this is an opportunity for coaches to
really flex and show that, hey, we've tried it a couple
different ways. This is the best way we're going
to be last off the bike or hey, the calories actually let us get
30 to 45 seconds ahead and we're going to need that on the
burpees. So that's what we're going to
do. Or, hey, all these people are
going to be getting to the burpees tired.
My plan is to do the first 75 squats unbroken, like whatever.
There's just so many different ways you can go about racing
this. And I think that a long mixed
modality workout like this isn't done a whole lot anymore.
And I've had a couple people text me that I've already
qualified that are like, I need to do this in my training.
Like I just need to do it and and figure it out.
Like if I'm putting that situation at the games and you
know there's a hundred of something or how am I going?
To get through that. So, and I think that people, I
don't people might not catch on is the last movement is almost
the only movement that you can really race.
Like obviously people are going to have like faster paces than
other others, but everybody's gonna have their pace that
they're holding on the Echo bike.
Nobody's like sending 100 cows in the echo bike.
Everybody's gonna break their toes to bar up in sets and then
the bar facing burpees are just going to be like a steady pace
through the whole thing. They probably advance it at some
point. And then and then the front
squats will be where you can make a choice.
You have a game plan, but that's where workout gaming, like being
good on game day, happens. You see, he's 10 reps ahead of
me. I'm going to go unbroken through
50 to just to to break this man right or or girl.
Yeah, it's your point. It's your point, John.
Like it's a lot easier to jump back up onto the pull up bar for
a set of five than it is to pick up that bar again after you've
dropped it. It's just a lot different in
that time of the work. Every time you put that bar
down, the clock starts and it just melts away.
So your point about the Echo bike though, because it's
calories specifically, that's a whole other conversation that
I'm just very firm on. But there are people that 70% is
a 12 calorie lead compared to someone else.
So they're not going for it. They're just like, hey, this is
my comfortable pace and it's just faster than yours.
However, toast a bar burpee front squat, the big long
athlete, like that's all they get right in this world.
They they get that first movement and then after that the
the deck's a little bit stacked against you after a workout that
should have been, you know, pretty good for you just to, you
know, to start the competition for this workout.
I just want to talk about testing because to me, that's
the most important part of this. I mean, four people came and did
an entire simulation weekend with two hours rest in between
in a closed gym. It was extremely like the floor
was marked out the way it's going to be.
And then I had some remote testers and the remote testing
athlete that did this work out. Their splits were 522-520-5541
and five O 7. That's going to be tight.
So that's about 21 minutes. That athlete is Colton Merton's.
So if you think Colton so you so you think Colton's doing the
burpees in 541, you think people aren't going to be just going
through mud? Like listen to those splits.
Those are really, really consistent splits.
They're pretty splits. And, and obviously closing on
the squats for Colton is not going to be what most people can
do. So yeah, he did it.
You know, he did a workout that day or maybe 2 and then hit this
for me and you know, he's not in, he wasn't in peak shape when
he did it, but I knew, hey, he's in the West.
He could win this workout. I need to know if the cap is
appropriate and I need to know if someone can go sub 20 on.
That that's that's like 45% slower than when he did it
against Berman. The 100 bar facing burpees.
He. Was he was like 333?
Oh, you're pacing? No, I think it was 3/19.
Was it? Yeah.
So I mean that's over 50% slower.
Yeah, and I, I, you know, I talked to him about it.
I was like, hey, are you cool if I tell people that you tested a
couple of these and what your times were?
He's he's fine with it. So I just think it's good to
talk about him specifically because a lot of people are
going to be wondering what's possible.
And I told him to do transitions and every like roll the bar
every 25 burpees, roll the bar every 25 front squat, like he
did all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, this workout
originally was back squat, and that would have been a hey, do
people want to hold on? It kind of.
Kind of came down to a when they drop it, though, how do they do
it? Do we let them bail?
Do they bring it in front? Do they?
And it was just a little bit clunky.
So we, we, we, we toured around with some other movements.
The, the yoke was originally front rack carry.
And then I was like, hey, well, let's just switch the two.
Let's get him in the back rack once and get him in the front
rack. There's a lot of legs.
There's a lot of midline here. There's a lot of shoulders going
from the burpee to holding that front squat.
I mean, the testing athletes that it was as much shoulders as
it was legs. So Angelo got capped.
Taylor did front rack step UPS because he couldn't squat and
still finished and Lindsay got capped and Molly Mcgrandy
finished so 2 got capped, 2 finished so that that was that.
Let me know that 25 is not a Gimme and that people will get
capped, but I do want a lot of people to feel all 400.
Of these reps yeah, they're they're getting capped at like
80 front squats, they're not getting capped like without even
getting. To the front.
Oh yeah. And they're and they're going to
be fighting for those squats. So whatever they get, they're
going to feel the rest of the time.
For sure. The one, the one thing I thought
about when I saw this workout was the pill squat workout from
Crucible, and I wondered how many coaches were good enough to
go through, analyze your programming over the past couple
years, see that one and be like, he's probably going to try
something like this. Well, the year before in the
retour there was 100 shipper. It was a. 100 Trapeze, toasta
bar 100 and kettlebell snatch. 100 boxed up over 100 kettlebell
squat and I was a little bit annoyed that Colton did that in
like. 14 or 15? Minutes needed some redemption
with one that was a little a little hard actually, Angelo was
hoping I would use the pill for this workout for the squats and
just kind of bring that back but rogue was extremely generous and
they don't they they don't carry those so I was like barbells
fine, you know so. Yeah, this one, this one's going
to be one of my favorite ones to watch.
Yeah, typically the the 25 minute workouts are not, you
know, it's a little rough to watch, but I mean, I think this
one. I think you're going to.
You're going to see them. Fighting, you're well, you're
going to see all the big guys in front and then you're going to
see, and they probably can hold on to it through the Tosa bar,
but then you're going to see this like pretty shift with all
the little flying burpee guys from the big guys.
It's going to be really fun. Yeah.
Yeah, and last thing about this, I know we need to move on like
bar facing burpees standard is going to be get over the bar
anyhow. So as much as it's cringe for me
to watch people step over the bar and just turn around and get
down. Hey.
If I'm not in the, I'm not. I'm not, I'm not interested in
the subjectivity of a 12 take off or whatever on this and a
hop versus a step. So hey, if you want to be more
athletic looking and you want to go faster than jump over.
But if you don't just step over and you can go a little slower
like that's fine too. What we are bringing back though
is the 17.1 line that bisects the object.
So everyone will be doing true perpendicular bar facing burpee
and not that pseudo 45° angle. So it'll be one hand and 1 foot
on either side of the take one. Tyler, I think me and you
sometime during this during the weekend after they do this, we
should partner work out and see if we can beat the the winning
time. Yes, with all the time we have,
we will definitely do that. Dude.
Well, we could do it in the morning, it'd be fine.
You never know the WPTH. Do we can part do let's be
partners and do it. I forgot we got to do that.
We do a lot of stuff. I, I, I think it would be fine
if we can. If we can do it, we should see
if we can beat the winning time. You got to get ready for for
Isabel though, John. Yeah, you know what?
We're just going to see what happens.
I I hurt, I hurt myself last grid practice.
So like I haven't been able to touch a barbell and like like 5
days. So I'm hoping that I'm OK for I
got to be OK for Saturdays next Saturday and then Isabel's after
that. So I'm just trying not to hurt
myself. And then, you know, whatever
happens, happens, I might get out there and just try to touch
and go 12 in a row and then be like I blew, I blew up myself on
purpose, right? So.
I could see that happening. Yeah.
Good Saturday workout #3 Yoke repeater, 8 rounds, 400 meter
run, 40 foot yoke carry at 420-5305.
All of these. Workouts are my favorite
workout. Every single one of them.
So this obviously the name here. I should bring back some bike
repeater, which was essentially just a lot of hard biking with a
interruption of 1 legless rope on every round.
So this is that, right? This could definitely just be
called the the, the, the run, the run interrupter, right?
And if it same way as the yoke repeater.
What's cool about this workout for me is that I think it's the
most misunderstood workout of the whole weekend.
I think a lot of people look at it and they will look at it and
just say, oh, OK, so the yoke doesn't matter.
It does matter and it matters a lot.
And the best way I can describe it to you is just to speak to
the testing. Like on paper, in my opinion,
Taylor is a better runner than Angelo.
Angelo is a good runner, but Taylor's a very, very good
runner because of, and they were like side by side the whole
workout, like within two or three seconds the whole workout.
The original version was 10 rounds of 340.
But because the venue landscape and having to run a lot inside,
we decided just like them, to run a little bit so people could
pass each other a little easier. The hesitation late, maybe not
even hesitation, just the speed at which Angelo could get the
yoke on him and walk with urgency.
And it's guys basically like you're running with the yoke,
like you're not walking slowly. You are trying to get it on and
off of you as fast as you possibly can.
You're still moving that thing over 100 yards with 400 and 300
lbs on your back. It does do something to your run
that it's hard to describe until you feel it.
And Angelo ended up winning that work out barely.
But on paper, if it was just a two mile run, I would not bet
against Taylor. So just the the opportunity
every time that maybe lose a second because you walk a little
bit faster. I mean, it's really 10 seconds
every yoke, so you're only looking at 80 seconds of a 15
minute workout. But yeah, the yoke does matter.
It is heavy enough to matter if it was lighter.
Like Midline Madness is a lot like this workout.
The berm run, empty yoke. That was really, really light.
It was about the berm, right? I think this is heavy enough to
affect the run, Lindsay and Molly.
Lindsay's a far better runner. Just plain run.
Molly kept it really close because I think the yoke just
didn't affect her as much as it affected Lindsay.
I mean going to it and leaving it.
So prime cap wise, a lot of people will look at this and
say, oh wow, there's 2 long workouts.
You never really see 2 long workouts.
To me, that 15 to 17 minute time domain just doesn't get hit a
lot unless it counts as a long test.
And for me, I think that's a really important time domain and
it's not a 20 minute plus time domain.
I just think hard running, proving you can run before you
get to the games is maybe the most important thing you need to
show. So yeah, this will do that, but
also gives people an opportunity to use and implement in a
workout and not an accessory session that they probably don't
use in a high intensity workout like.
This, yeah. I mean you think about 8 rounds.
I mean it. You have to be running fast to
get you have time cap like if you're doing if you're doing 8
minute miles. You're pushing it.
You're barely going to finish and probably don't.
Dude, if you're doing 8 minute miles, you're not here.
There you go. I was going to say like.
Well, we don't know that though. Like they got in through the
open. Kale's not doing it, dude.
Like. For me it's a A2 minute round
with it, like I said, with a 10 second yoke.
And let's just say there's a few seconds right?
You you pause or you have to run back out of your lane.
So every other round you're running a little bit farther.
All that into consideration to me is like, hey, this is a 2
minute round workout unless you're just not a good runner.
So I think the fastest times though will probably be 1415.
Yeah. And I'm sure the run will be ish
and we will make sure we let everyone know before the hey,
the run is actually 410 or the run is actually 372 or whatever.
You know, we'll, we'll let everybody.
We'll film the walk. We'll show you excuse.
Me. This was not exactly 400 meters.
I got my wheel out and everything.
Three times we're going to do that morning of we're.
Doing that that. 'D be good.
This is. Not a boring workout, but in a
way it's like my favorite one because I think it's the most
easily overlooked and this workout hurts man.
And 100 toes to bar yoke carry. We're still going to get on the
GHD. Like the midline just gets hit a
lot all weekend long. Yeah, I like this one.
I mean, I I'm sure probably 99% of the athletes that are going
to be there have done a yoke carry in training.
I'm not sure all of them have done it in a competition.
And I don't, and I don't think a lot of them have done it with a
monostructural element. I think they usually do.
It yeah, go ahead. Carry the yoke, run back, carry
the heavy sand back, run back, carry the heavy farmer candles
and it's like a strongman medley type situation.
Or it's carry the yoke, you know, do some GHD, do some yoke,
do a rope climb like the one WFP did is like a very like classic
combination of just same structure, right?
Just an interference in between the rogue climbs, but a little
bit more classic strongman gymnastics mix.
I just think this one is not one that people are going to see and
have done anything like it before.
So you just kind of like you get what you get on this workout,
like you got two weeks, but you ain't just going to get good at
this workout in two weeks. Speaking of that, I don't think
Mayhem put out like they put out the workouts, but they didn't
put down the breakdown workouts or like in testing what they
did. Is this the first time we've
ever gotten like, an analysis of what is possible with Colton
Taylor Angelo before him tested? They tested but.
They didn't make it public, right?
I think that like Dave writing his book in 2018, I think he
said he's working on another one.
Like that kind of stuff's fascinating to me because what I
always want to know is, OK, this is what the athletes on game day
who tested it, how did they come up with Rep schemes, changing it
time caps, all that. Like for instance, like like for
boss, like I want to know who tested the dumbbell, the
dumbbell over headlines GHD. Like I just want to know because
I think it's cool to know. Like was it like Hobart moves
amazingly? Did he test it?
Like did did Boz do it himself with 50s?
Did he do it himself with 70s? Like I just think stuff like
that, even after the fact, would be awesome.
So like for the programmers to say, hey, this is what I had at
first. This is how I changed it.
I mean, yeah, there's probably only 100 people in the world
that care, but I just think it would be cool because being able
to speak to all the decisions you make would make me probably
be more or less critical of it. Like a Beck.
Oh, OK. So This is why they did it.
OK, cool. Well, this the story of the.
Fibonacci finale. I mean he was like we had Julie
and Alcarez tested. I didn't know he was literally a
God at deficit handstand push ups and he did the workout he
finished the workout under 6 minutes and turns out, oh, he's
one of the best in the world of this freaky movement and the
fittest in the world can't do it like that and I I didn't know
that now I do I like that's that's those stories are cool.
I. Agree.
What do you what do you think releasing talking about the the
athletes who tested it, their scores?
What do you think that that does to the athletes who are
listening and and looking for tips right now?
Like how do they? Proceed over the.
Next two weeks. I hope it gives them some really
good data because I, I think at this point it's a level playing
field. And like, if people want to
reach out to Taylor and be like, hey, dude, you know, I tested
Metal March and like, I don't know, I was a little bit
conservative first. I didn't finish it.
Like Taylor's probably going to be like, hey, dude, you can't be
conservative on this workout. You're the muscle.
The muscle fatigue is coming and it's two on, one off, 2 on, one
off. If you can squeak out another 10
feet on round one, you do it. If you can climb the rope a
little bit faster on round two, you do it because eventually
it's going to and you just when you when you want to go faster,
you're not going to be able to go faster.
So I hope that they, I mean, if I were anyone, I would be
reaching out to those people and asking questions about it, but.
You know, I'm sure Colton will appreciate all the DMS.
Speaking. Speaking of Metal March, we have
our intervals. It does not feature jump ropes.
To cap it off, 223 intervals one minute between 50 slash 40 rogue
pro double unders, 4/3 cut rope, rope cut rope climbs and then
Max distance in the remaining time dual kettlebell overhead
walking lunges until you complete 240 feet which is 6
times down the 40 foot path. This looks gross.
Yes, the work rest. I think it's really necessary.
Gosh, I remember when the original intervals came out and
just how creative and how cool I thought it was and watching some
epic blow ups and watching Matt when Dave was like it's not
possible to do in three. And he's like give them that
look like I'm going to die try and like that, like that kind of
stuff. Just those are the memories that
I have and and advancing down the floor and and, you know,
telling the story and just like this like idea of a buy in work
out that a lot of people just did in training and they didn't
really think to do it in competition.
And it ends up being one of the one of the coolest format.
So 2017 had to cut rope at regionals and a chipper.
It was also heavy wall balls. As I remember the year before
they went to the ranch and they did heavy wall ball at the ranch
and back in the day, we saw that clear trickle down year to year
and it was so cool. It was like, hey, we did 200 LB
kettlebell deadlifts. The next year you got 150 LB
kettlebell deadlifts. Like it's like you saw that,
hey, if we're doing at the Games, you need to be ready to
do it at regionals. If we're doing it regional, you
need to be ready to do it in the open or whatever.
So, yeah, bringing back the cut rope, the Rogue Pro double
under, unless you've been to Rogue or you competed at
Wadapalooza a few years ago and did that flip sled workout, you
probably have had no competition where they use that jump rope.
So there's a lot, you know, there's the drag rope and you
know, Bellitis has that has that cable that, you know, they're
sponsoring a lot of workouts, a lot of them.
But this one is different, right?
Having the handles that are weighted and releasing it early
enough so that the outliers that are 6, four or 4 foot 10 can go
on Rogue and buy their own and size it and just bring it to us
the competition and be like, here's my rope and we'll inspect
it and be like, you're good to go.
Like it's really important for me and Wilson, the athlete
experience in a way of like, hey, if we're going to use
something that not a lot of people have, let's provide it
for them and let's tell them the sizes that they're going to get
access to and then they can make their own decision.
If they need something different, they can bring it
with them. So I'm really excited about
this. I don't know if anyone can do it
in three intervals. Taylor was really, really close.
And I think honestly, he would, he would probably win this
workout in whatever field is there because he's so good at
the cut rope. There's a lot of athleticism
there. And if you don't practice that,
it's hard to be really, really efficient, especially when
you're blown up. And then if you have good grip
endurance and if you're a good upper body puller, do you have
good overhead position? Because if you have the grip in
the pulling but your overhead position is not good, it's
really hard to do. Well, Tyler.
So I'm I'm going to do really well with this one.
I've got a good chance here. It's just like you.
Want to go back? You want to go ahead and add in
this one, Tyler. Absolutely.
I don't know if I can get through the 1st bite and I'll be
honest with you. You can.
Did Taylor do the the catch and play up between the the thighs?
Is that how? We no.
It's but actually I went and watched that and Brent do it the
following weekend. And you know, Brent's one of the
best in the world at life list, but he's like, hey, I can, I'm
tall enough to where I can do no legless.
And I texted him about it. He said, Yep, easiest event went
in my career right there. You know, 'cause he was, he was
tall. It was heavy wall ball.
It was overhead walking lunge. It was double under like it was
just wheelhouse. And he got through those rope
climbs and his arms weren't blown up.
So anyone who anyone who hasn't done a cut rope climb before,
it's very different. If you think about how a rope
touches the ground, hopefully not too much at your gym, it's
kind of anchoring the rope. So when you go to clamp it, it's
got that weight. But when you are missing 5 feet
of the rope off the ground and you go to clamp, it just kind of
swings around everywhere and you can blow up your biceps just
trying to find your foot in so. It's a it's a Shorty rope for
people who don't. Yeah, it's.
It's what, 5 feet off the ground?
Generally you'll see athletes do one or two legless pulls into
it's. Extremely hard to leg lock at
the bottom of the rope. It's and I don't know why it is,
but it it it is like you have to have some clearance before you
can. Lock nothing down there.
Yeah. It's just really, it's like it's
almost weightless in testing. When we tested this, the girls
did a version with regular rope climbs.
We didn't know if Rogue was going to approve the cut rope.
So the guys use the cut rope and the girls used did regular
legless to a true 15 feet. The regionals rig is about 14
feet. They both did 50 double unders
and the girls were way behind the guys.
So I mean, I hope Rison's got some behind the scenes footage
of this, but like all of us were just talking right after or
going to the whiteboard talking about different options.
If we get the cut ropes, if we don't decrease in the double
unders help the ton. Lindsay retested this workout
this week and finished it and making that adjustment, you
wouldn't think it's much, but that that two hundreds is 160
total. And that 16 rope climb to 12
rope climb total is massive for the women.
And so while I think the women will still struggle to finish
more than the men, I think making that adjustment of both
the rope climbs and the double unders are really going to help
the workout feel the same for both sexes, which I think is
really important in any competition.
Yeah, this one's this one's going to be good.
Let's see next one on Sunday, athletes only 302418126 of GHD
sit ups with a 30 foot hand stag and walk 210-8642 box jump overs
and then back another 30 feet handstand walk obstacle 42 and
36 inch box. So I imagine you're doing the 30
GHD sit ups, handstand walk, 10 box jump overs, handstand walk
back to the GHD. Correct.
Yeah. So the the handstand walk is
there for your transition. And I mean, obviously if you saw
the the video that we posted that Hiller actually made with
some clips from that 2018 year and some guys like Matt and
Brooke and Catherine like doing that obstacle.
That workout was also a triple G workout like this one.
So it was ring muscle up, handstand obstacle and pistol.
And outside of the Sanctionel year, Wadapalooza think they did
it with a power snatch ladder. We haven't seen this stage of
competition use the obstacle since 2018, although it's at the
games almost every year. So I was really, really grateful
that we were able to use it. I have a lot of setups that I'm
bringing and then we're able to borrow a couple more.
So we'll have a couple in the warm up area, 10 on the floor.
And I just think it's, it's one of those things that if you're
not able to do, if you've been to Crucible before, you've done
it three or four years. But if you're not able to do
this, it's I mean, it could, it could end some weekends.
And this is something I think you should be able to do in this
volume 300 feet with some interference here on the hip
flexors and midline. No shoulder interference though.
Just think there's something you need to be able to do before you
get to the. Games and I got plenty of time
to practice. If they can't, like this is the
time to every day, every other day you try, you figure out how
to do this. Ramp well remember 2 and
remember 2 that that reel went out a couple weeks ago.
So like they've known they've had like a month for this.
Is there a minimum work requirement for this workout?
No, the only workout that there's a minimum work
requirement for is Metal March and that is the complete buy in.
So you have to do the double unders and the rope climbs or
else your workout is it workout is it not your competitions?
Yeah, you just can't go to the second interval.
So yeah, Pop Ox is going to be very overlooked.
But other than at the Crosser Games, I think Water Palooza did
36 inch last year for the team competition.
They did 36 and 30, but 42 and 36, I mean, there's a reason why
it's called athletes only, right?
That is more of the handstand walk movement.
But yeah, I mean, the 30 box jump overs for people who have
never jumped on a box higher than 30 inches is going to be
different. It's going to be different.
I have some, I have some video footage of some games level
athletes doing it and it's really funny.
Do do they finish the box jump overs then skip the last
transition? They do not, no.
So you get the full all ten of them, correct?
Yeah, OK. Yeah, So they're, they're going
to handstand walk back and the the finish mat will actually be
where the GHD is. OK, OK.
There's a cool workout. It's a really cool flow.
You know, this is one that like people are going to get laughed
and you're going to look on the floor and you're going to be
like, oh, they're on round four and that person's still in round
two. And what's what's good about to
me about this workout in a descending Rep scheme is early
on, everyone gets to play. So early on you've got the big
chunks, the GHD and the big chunks of box.
So a little bit more time in between the handstand watcher
versus, but late in the workout, round four, you're getting on
for 12 GHD. There's the obstacle, you're
jumping four times. There's the obstacle again,
you're getting on for six, you're getting on for two.
Those last four handstand walk passes are so close together
that like it lets the people who are really good at it show it at
the end. And the people who can't do it
at all are just kind of like, hey, we got to play for the
first 3 rounds. Interesting and testing.
I knew all four of them would destroy this workout.
I didn't think all four of them would go unbroken on everything.
So no one failed a handstand walk.
Everyone went smooth and fast. They actually were racing like I
mean Angelo went like 830, Taylor was around 9 minutes,
Molly and Lindsay were around were sub 10.
So like this 13 minute cap for some is going to be very
generous for others is going to be very aggressive.
And that's what we need on Sunday.
Like we need, we need some crazy swings.
And while I think most of the events have swings built in
every single workout because something specific is being
tested, that I think this one and then the last one with the
heavy sandbag is really going to help some people or hurt some
people's chances at a Games bid for sure.
Yeah, moving on to the final workout.
Bag 9 9 Sandbag cleans 12 Ring Muscle UPS 1512122118 Cal Echo
Rower 1512 Bar Muscle UPS 9 Sandbag Cleans AT200/150.
This is my favorite workout I bet.
You know, we can, you know, we could dig into all the movement
selection and the movement patterns and, and all that kind
of stuff. But at the end of the day, like
you need 2 workouts. I think they're limited by just
capacity. And you have that with the yoke
and with the hundreds. You need a couple workouts that
are limited by something body weight.
You have that with the cut rope and with the hands and wall.
And then you need a couple workouts that are limited by the
weight lifting component. That doesn't mean that it has to
be super heavy or not, but it just that needs to be the thing
that separates. And while 30 and 24 muscle UPS
probably will cause some separation, this workout is
about the back. And for a lot of people that
really good technically with the barbell.
But when you have to just move something weird over and over
again, it just destroys you. So this is the most compelling
like discrepancy of testing data.
Taylor did this workout. He went touch and go on the 1st
9 unbroken on muscle UPS. Rode like a 1200 which I'll get
to which is really important. Does sixth touch and go with a
10 foot transition after each 3 so 3?
Held. Carry three touch and go carry
does 3 singles at the end of the workout, goes low fours.
OK, Angelo does it, doing the same thing, executing it the
same way, essentially just having to do singles on the bag
and goes 2 minutes slower, so 2, so 2 minutes slower.
So like 4 1/2 and 6 1/2, which call it that, whatever.
Molly and Lindsay do it. They're a little bit closer
together, but we made some adjustments to the bar muscle
UPS. Originally they did fifteens and
the back half was just really hard and I was like, OK, we need
to adjust that. Like some workouts they can do
the same, but this one they probably need to do 12.
Alex Gazan tested it for me. Didn't know she was testing a
workout like for that she thought it was for Crucible.
She did the first nine touch and go, did the muscle UPS unbroken.
Rode the same pace as Taylor, 1200 for her 18.
Did singles, did singles on the bag and barely beat, barely beat
Taylor. Colton was right around Taylor's
time doing similar like touch and go at 1st and then having to
do singles in it. So Taylor by far handled the bag
better than anyone. But other than the yoke, I think
the most misunderstood part of this workout is the row, and
I'll explain. The row only matters for the
best. And in that description I just
gave you, if you can do the bag really, really well and you're
really good at muscle UPS, how hard can you row and still jump
up and do that back half unbroken?
That's a that is going that will come into play for a lot of
people who are similar on the back.
So because Alex got off 1520 seconds on the rower, she was
able to essentially wipe that away on the back half sandbag
having to do singles. And I think that's a really,
really interesting part of the workout is that there's some
gamesmanship, even though it's a fast workout, like 9 minutes for
some is they're going to be hoping that the cat hits just
because they're falling apart with the bag.
But in a workout that's so short, I think there's a lot of
strategy. But at the end of the day, you
either have the option to go touch and go or you don't.
And that already is going to put you in a deficit because if the
person next to you is going touch and go, the amount of time
that you are passing them on, it's really hard to make up on
the other two movements unless someone just gets on the road
and they're like, hey, I'm just going to recover on the road and
I'm going to be on it for 90 seconds and then I'm going to
rest a lot before the muscle UPS.
Like do these people really matter anyway?
Probably not. Like this workout, this finale
is written for the people who are going to go or not go.
And then it's like I don't know what she can do on the bag or I
don't know what he can do on the bag.
I'm going to take a break on the rings.
Oh well she is too. OK, well then who can get the 9
reps done like it's called bag 9 because it's all going to come.
Down to the last. You know, you know who I would
have loved to see this do this work out and if if you we could
possibly reach out to him. I don't know if he is reach out
able, but is Bronislaw Linkowitz 'cause that is a guy that would
touch and go the nine and then go 654 on the rings, go 1200 on
the row and then nine and six on the bar muscle UPS.
But then he would touch and go the entire 9 on the second-half
and end up beating everybody. And I mean and Taylor.
Taylor might be too fit. No, no.
No, no I'm not. Talking about the fittest in the
world this field. I dude, I think Taylor's time
and Colton's time on this because they are able to touch
and go in the bag and even Alex too because there's not a lot of
females that are going to touch and go and much less like at the
end. Like I watch Taylor do it.
I talked to Alex after she did it.
It's like, dude, that really hurts like lactic.
Like if you can go that fast, I mean, the arms just get no
reprieve. You're wrestling the bag, you're
pulling, you're hanging, you're pulling on the rower again.
But she's like at the end, it's just like, it's like meltdown,
right? Like like everything shutting
off on those last few sandbag cleans because you're you're
going so fast and it's such a powerful workout that it hurts.
If you can make it hurt, it really hurts.
And some people just can't make it hurt.
So, and there's going to be a game spot on the line, right?
For some, I I mean the teams are doing synchronized ring and bar
muscle up, which is is pretty cool.
I mean, I think Water Palooza did it first and then Adrian
programmed it with the thrusters that year in Orlando.
And this workout was bar all along.
And I just got really frustrated that I thought we were going to
be the only people not doing ring muscle ups.
And it turns out everyone's doing bar muscle UPS this year.
Not they were like Wilson had mentioned it early on like we
could do both. And I was like, I don't know,
that seems kind of it's just not like me to do it.
And I ended up coming back to him and being like, let's do it.
And what's important is where the rings are Like at the
beginning, it still gives the opportunity for people to go
unbroken if they're really good on the rings.
And then on the back half, they're doing the easier bar
muscle up, which kind of still pushes intensity.
And I think that's really important because while this
isn't A2 to three minute Sprint, it is still a power output fast
workout. Like again, you know the winning
times are going to be sub five and they're going to be people
that probably get capped. So in a 9 minute workout, having
people beat you by 3 or 4 minutes I think is is pretty
cool. And that hearing you talk like
if, if, if I'm going to go into syndicate, I'm watching this
right. I'm listening to what you're
saying and hearing that to be fast, you have to go unbroken.
On the bag, on the bag and on the bag of the.
Bag. Like I think Angelo's time.
Like I think his time of around like 6 minutes is, is a good
time, a good time because he wasn't messing around.
He was doing singles on the bag, but he wasn't just standing
there with hands on knees. He's awesome at muscle UPS,
which is still important, right? Like how long is your break
after the row? Are you breaking 15 seconds?
Are you like stepping right to the bar and jumping off?
So I think that Taylor and Alex and like Colton's times are
like, hey, if I need to win this workout, like.
I got to beat them. I need to go faster than IMAM.
Look at the workout. One minute, 2 minute, three
minute, 4 minute, 5 minute, like.
And that's really impressive when you think about it, that
they were like sub 4:30. But again, yeah, like if you
can, you even get like the first three touch and go and then go
to singles. Like you make up so much time
because the 200 and 150 is not like the one 5100, right?
It's just it takes so much more out of you.
Every Rep but Taylor's been cycling sandbags like since I've
met him. Like he was sending me videos
doing 200 LB box step UPS like four or five years ago.
Like, I just think that some people are just really, really
good at odd objects and it's just a completely different
story than a a barbell. Yeah, I'm just thinking like if
you're 3rd place or say 4th and it's close, like you're hearing
this like I I have to try it, right.
Like you can't, you can't do Angelo and think that 6 minutes
is going to going to get it for you.
Like you've got to take that risk of, of doing it.
And what is that? Does that blow up in the last
those last 9? But you got time to do it.
You got time to play with it. And.
I think it's going to be this. It's funny because it feels like
maybe not, maybe other than the hundreds, but the last workout
is almost the most strategic in it and who executes their game
plan the best. I just think we'll see a lot of
different approaches. Yeah, I think that I think that
metal March and athletes only are very execution oriented and
like can't fly too close to the sun.
Like if I, if I'm not careful, right and I fail a rope climb,
I'm done. Like I'm like I'll take a I'll
end up taking a 30th. Or if I go a little too soon on
a handstand walk and I just, it gets in my head all right, I've
already missed one. And then it it just becomes like
a snowball effect. I think John is right in that
there is a ton of fitness. Here.
There's just levels of fitness, kind of like the grids, whereas
a couple of the other workouts are either you got it or you
don't. And I do like the the strength
pieces, the first workout and the last one.
Right. So I, you know, if you think
about the leaderboard shifting, I could see, yeah, you see the
geez, you know, in the Olivia curse sitter's up top early on,
dip down a little bit and they come back strong in the final
one. And that's their chance to come
come back and and make it. Dude, I think it's more of like
a you, you, you see, it's well, I don't.
I don't think so guys. If if like a lactic acid type
feeling at the end of it, if that's truly what it brings,
dude, he ain't about that life. I think more like.
AI don't think D like those guys on the.
Border like come back whenever he touched and go the sandbags
at regionals and made his and got his ticket.
That's that's kind of what I'm thinking like somebody who, who
you don't even see coming and they were the only one able to
do it or they did it the best and then they jumped 5 spots and
got. That and I don't even know if
he'd want to put it out there. I mean, I think it would crush
he'd put it on his his own YouTube.
But if Bryson has Taylor doing this workout, like, you know,
that video of Colton doing doing friendly Fran was just awesome
to watch, like leading up to this workout.
Like if he's got that footage and he puts it out, I mean,
that's cool. Like that's cool even to put out
like the first nine sandbag clean just so people can watch
that movement and try to dissect it because there's there's a, a
technique to it, right? Like.
He's able to do it because of timing and and you know, you
mishandle that that 200 and it just pushes you over so.
I like also that you give him the option to be able to do
touch and go. I feel like so often now you
don't. You're not.
Allowed to drop. Yeah, that was something too.
That was interesting. Like I like going over the
shoulder, especially if people don't bail to the side and like
kind of throw it off their bicep and their hips aren't open at
the top. Like people who do it right.
I think it looks really good and I think sometimes for singles
that annoying not being able to go touch and go is is can be a
good thing based on the workout but in this workout specifically
you they need to have. That option.
Of hey, if it was mandated singles, it really would like,
hey, it's the muscle ups are really important.
Well, we already have two workouts that the gymnastics are
really, really important. And then the hundreds, the
burpees and toast bar are still really important.
So to me, you don't let them go touch and go and it kind of
starts to swing the bias of the whole program.
So that might be a little too deep, but I think that allowing
them to go touch and go, the workout is supposed to be
limited by the weightlifting component.
I think that's this is the right move.
Yeah. What I like about all this is
that you've essentially written all my prop bets for me, so I
appreciate that with giving us the athlete times.
Thank you. Well, well, and and how many
athletes go touch and go all nine of the first ones?
Or does the first guy off the is the fastest time off the bike
win a heat or lose every heat? Dude, I think, I think with with
bag 9, you could have like like so many prop bets.
How many how many people go on broken on both set of muscle
UPS? Like not many are doing that,
but the the ones who are the ones that need to win it.
Like if Luke's in that position, he's doing it, you know, like
we've seen him on finales just completely go after, especially
when there's muscle UPS involved.
Like he did it last year at semis where he crushed the bike
and then jumped up on the rings. We saw it at the classic.
Like he's someone I think over. I'm like, if that dude can touch
and go the 200, like that's a guy that that is going to be in
it till the very end. Or even like winning time sub 4
minutes 4 to 4 to 4/24/20 to 44440 to 5:00.
That's your. That's your.
That's your toll at the end of at the end of the competition
weekend with with the game day transitions.
I think 4 sub 4:30 is a really good profit for both males and
females. If you were going to predict
which workouts most correlated to the finals.
Spins favorite thing. Yeah, I I want it to be the one
hundreds, but I think it's the finale.
I think so too, because you're just going to see people fall
apart in it. Like you're going to see people
go for it and then they can't do it, and then you'll see people
go for it and they can do it. And that eventually will end up
who's who lies where. Well, you know they all three of
the movements matter. Even the row in the middle
matters for the best because it's like I need to beat him
back to the bag and I know he's going unbroken labarre muscle
up. So the only way I can get to the
back faster than him is if I choose to row a little bit
harder. So while all three movements
matter, it comes down to the bag and for the ones that all three
movements matter, it's a fitness test.
It's not just a like like a one thing type test.
I kind of wanted. I would love it to be the one
hundreds because I just think that that just that's like
really classic CrossFit, but I'm probably just a little bit
biased to the longer time domain, so.
The question I have about all this is like, so you've been,
you've been doing CrossFit a long time, you've been
programming a long time, you've run your own events.
I guess what's the emotion feel like to now be programming for a
qualifying spot? 2 qualifying spots for the
Games. No, I mean it's it really is a
dream come true. Like I like for years probably
have just been like, man, I just want that chance.
I just want that opportunity. Like I don't I'm I'm a nobody.
I don't really know how to go about that.
And, you know, most times Dave is programming everything or,
you know, occasionally some people get to do their own
thing. Like the sanctionals here, you
know, it's like, wow, they all get to kind of put their own
spin on everything. But I also believe that it's a
it's a really, really like serious responsibility.
And I think that if you're entering into it with any of
like your own personal motives, or if you're doing it just
because you're doing what you like or you're not thinking
about, hey, my job here is to get the right to people to cross
with you. So that's it.
So unless you're approaching it like that, I mean, I take it
very serious. I mean, for six months, all I've
thought about is this, right? Like I think about other
workouts too, but I'm a simple person, right?
I I have my faith, I have my family.
I love to train, I love to coach people and I love to write
workouts. And that's really it.
Like, so I am, I do this all the time.
This is this is what I love to do.
So I know I get passionate and ramble about it, but being this
come together like it has Wilson trusting me with that job to do
it. I mean, yeah, so I got to, I got
to go out swinging, right? Make it work.
The The funny thing leading up to when we found out about the
workouts we had like this meeting scheduled for Syndicate
are. We supposed to say this?
Yeah, I mean we're working the event.
It's fine, but it's it's more about the lead in so like JRS
even through text message like very stoic and I think you text
me three times like are you stoked for tonight?
Like you ready to? Find out about these workouts.
And I was like, a lot of people wouldn't catch like how excited
you were in that moment. I knew it was a big deal.
I've been, yeah, I've, I've been like, it's been, it's been tough
to just not like, you know, I want everyone to see him
because, you know, you're proud of it.
But then also too, you're ready for people to like or not like
them. And liking or not liking them
doesn't mean they're not a good test.
It just means it's what people like and that's it's in.
It's an art, just like a painting.
All right. We can agree that it might be
some people's cup of tea and some people might think it's
ugly, you know, so I do. I do want to say one thing while
I'm thinking about it. Or Wilson's going to not be
happy with me. Don't forget everybody.
Isabel against John Young. Yes.
Saturday metal March against Taylor Self.
Sunday, Sunday, athletes showcase against really whoever
wants it. I know Austin's in the mix.
I know Taylor's in the mix. Angelo's supposed to be in the
mix. They're doing athletes only,
right? So they're doing the handstand
walk workout. 500 bucks for the winner on Saturday, 500 bucks
for the winner on Sunday. Shoot, I'll put up.
And a free JY barbell shirt for the OH.
Heavy. Isabel.
No, no, I'll, I'll put up, I'll put up 500 on Friday too.
So I'll put up 500 for Heavy Isabel.
So John, you got to we can take some BBC 157 and let's do it.
If you are interested in competing, there is a limit of a
response, right? We got 10 lanes.
We would love to have 10 people do all three of those compete at
syndicatecrown.com. That's compete at
syndicatecrown.com. You do have to sign up on
competition Corner and sign the waiver so that you can get out
there on the floor. But I put out a text message
yesterday to like 8 or 9 coaches that all have athletes who have
already qualified for the games that are in the East.
And I'm like, hey, if they're going to be here fulfilling
sponsorship obligations, if if they're going to be, if they're
going to be just hanging out watching someone else, like,
hey, do any of these look fun to you?
Like come do it. It's heavy Isabel, it's metal
March and it's athletes only. So if if you if you want to just
get a workout in because you're trying to, she'll keep your
training up and you want to do something fun and you want to
set a time to beat. Like I see Danielle comment,
like I would love for her to come and do athletes only
because I don't know that anyone would beat her time.
Oh man, it would be cool to see something like that just
actually go out there and set a time to beat before the athletes
actually do it. So.
The thing that's crazy is, I mean like just like recapping it
all, every single day you will see one event where athletes are
doing it that aren't part of the competition.
You'll be able to seize times that they get, but particularly
on Athletes Only, I think this would be the first time we've
seen games level athletes do a workout, particularly with
Austin on Athletes only where they're not part of the
competition. They're sort of setting the
stage for what's about to happen.
It has no implications on the competition and it'll be a
really cool showcase. Like I, I think it's really cool
that we're doing 1:00 every single day.
Yeah, and I know it's right before the women's first heat,
but if you're not in the women's first heat and you're a male and
you're not going to watch Taylor do Metal March, you're insane.
Like if if you want to see like, OK, this is where I need to be
at these times. Like, dude, that's like, that's
like giving you a study guide right there.
So yeah, if Austin does athletes only like yeah, for sure.
So buy tickets and show up. I know, like, I'm incredibly
excited about this competition, but I think you're going to be
missing a hell of a show if you don't keep.
Everybody's going to be there. I'll be there.
Actually, I'll have the RV there.
It's going to be great. Caleb will be there.
Sea Beaver. Caleb.
Yeah. So he's going to learn about
CrossFit. That's be.
Great. No, he won't.
Fair enough. Thank you Jr.
Yeah. Thanks so much for having me on
guys, I appreciate it. I appreciate it they.
Are we're excited. I hope me and Tyler do not let
you down. You won't.
It's been, you know, he's doing whatever Spin does, but we're
we're in it. I'll.
Be there man. I'll be.
I'll be everywhere. Thanks.
Man, thank you Jr., thank you Syndicate, Crown, everything you
need to know. I know you're excited, Tyler.
I'm nervous. Oh dude, I I couldn't be I I
will be nervous like in that I want to execute, but we've
prepped so much for this. I know no one will mess up and I
know like I I just can't wait to finally do what we've all been
talking about doing for four years.
Yeah, yeah, I but like, like I, it's hard.
It's hard for me to show my excitement until we're like,
we're in it. I bet you after like, 'cause
just 'cause I just don't want to be the, I don't want to mess it
up, you know what I mean? And and I once I get Isabel
done, I feel like I'll be like the most excited.
Once. We're done with the first day,
you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, it'll be, it'll be
interesting. You'll be doing some.
We're all basically going to be on there at some point.
So it'll be. Show up guys.
Yeah, it'll be good. All right, let's head over.
Let's do some blind rankings before we find out if I hate the
WFP. Let's see here.
Do you think I do you think I hate it?
WFP. Are you are?
You asking us? Yeah.
I think that you have, I think that you have insight that most
don't. And I think that everybody's
talking good about how good the competition was and you know
it's going to eventually lead to either a big fight or
nothingness. And you don't want to talk about
how good it is because you know that's going to be the future.
And that's, that's, I don't know if that's true at all, but
that's my assessment of your feelings about it.
We'll find out. In the meantime, we'll play some
blind. Rankings.
I thought that's what we were doing right now.
Blind rankings. He's obviously pulling up blind
rankings, John. I dude, I was trying to get
intimate with you and then you just tried to like you shut me
down. That's why he showed you.
Blind Rankings. Look, look, you.
Were making fun of me. I was trying to watch what I
what I said, man. I was trying to have the right
words for it. This week's blind rankings.
Awful. Let's see, there we go.
Awful CrossFit feelings. Oh, this is.
This is this is in a competition.
What is the last thing you want to have happen?
What? Is this in McConnell?
While you're competing. So if you're if you were
thinking about in two weeks at Syndicate crown, if you're on
the competition floor, what do you want to not happen to you?
I was thinking like lactic acid, feeling like like, you know what
I mean, the panties. But this is different.
This is. Different this is this is you're
on you're on everybody's watching you you're on the live
stream you're on you know everybody's watching it from the
crowd OK and this happens so we'll find out if what you guys
think all right first one tripping over the final barbell.
Five. I mean, you're already done.
Yeah, Yeah. Good.
My. Thing is, it's.
Not that bad, it's good memories.
Is you're going to get a lot of reels, like it's just funny.
Yeah, like I, yeah, I, I don't think that's bad at.
All careful's been careful. There we go.
It yeah, I think, I think it's like it's.
Awesome. It's not a big deal.
We're laughing at words, you know, like you're.
It's good. You're good.
OK. I think a lot of athletes would
hate that though, like it would kill them and it's.
I think, well, OK, I think it's worse if you're the winner.
You know what? I'm saying you're right.
Well, you just won. You want to have your moment,
right? And then your moment is that.
So like you just killed everybody, right?
You should be proud. Like if you're in the middle of
the pack or even if you're last, like, you know, you're just,
it's just man, we're having a day.
I still liked it when Froning dropped it behind him when that
was still a thing. It's a thing in Grid, so stay
tuned. No, There you go.
I'm going to be doing it a lot. Is that how you hurt your
shoulder? We won't talk about it.
Go ahead. All right, next one going out
too hot and then just melting down.
OK, let's think of what can. Happen the good old Noah Olson.
Because to me, this is not that bad just because you're like
you. Do it all the time.
No, no, no, no, no, no, but like but like you, it's oh, I just
went out too hot like that's but that's it.
That's all it is. You know what I mean?
I blew up because I went out too hot.
You know why you blew up? It happened.
Now you're just suffering to get through the event, but it's not
even, you don't even have pressure to speed up because
you, you blew up. You know what I mean?
Like you're just, you just it happens to everybody.
Everybody knows what it feels like.
I just don't think it's that of all the bad things that can
happen, you know, we're talking about bad things that happen,
right? Like it's not, there's not going
to be random good things on this list as far as bad things.
I just don't think that's that that's that bad.
If you the the thing about going out too hot is if it works you
look cool as shit. If it doesn't.
Work well, I think you just look dumb.
I think we're only referencing when it doesn't work.
Right. But I think that to me the the
reason I reference if it goes well is because like it, there
is that upside of going out too hot.
You know you've risked it for something, yes.
It wasn't like it. Not all the time.
Is it stupid? You were going for it, right?
And then you just didn't have it.
And like nobody, I, I mean, like, unless you do something
really dumb, it's like, you know, go, you know, pull like a
130 on a marathon Rd. So like you don't want to do
that like in the 1st. I don't think we're talking
about that, no. No, no, no.
But yeah, I think we're talking about like.
Noah Olson doing the the 223 intervals and don't get me
wrong, that's not on the road climb way too fast.
But you can rationalize it as awesome.
Physically it's horrible but mentally it's fine.
I'm going 4. I'm like, I'm just saying you
can mentally rationalize why it happened.
Yeah. And guys, the comments are
referencing stuff that's a part of awful feelings, like not
being able to lunge at the last minute, like the last lunch, not
being able to do it like, but do you need to do that hot?
That's that's that might be one of the next things we have.
That's I mean, I think that's what I like about bag 9 is you
have to go out hot if you're if you're in a must win like you
have. You got to risk it to get the
biscuit, man. Something like that.
All right, next one up. Depends on the biscuit really.
And then you're in a haze and stuck in mayonnaise.
Here we go seeing that Hitler made a video about you.
Happens all the time. I've had a few of these
incidents to. Honestly this is 5 for me.
Most of them are good. I've had one kind of bad one,
the other two kind of kind of have my back.
Yeah, that's not the Hillary video I'm thinking about, but
are. You thinking about like a Hooper
style video this. Is a good thing.
These are I felt great I. Think there's a lot of people
that would disagree with you but.
It's I mean, if we're talking about CrossFit, like he, he, he
may say OK, Brooke, like that's. Probably you see the thumbnail
come out. You're you're.
Scrolling your Instagram. Stories and it says well
situation where like. Yeah, like we're like, yeah.
And you see it and you're like, uh oh, what did I do?
I would say 2. I think it's the worst thing.
But I don't even think. I mean like if I'm Brooke and
I'm seeing that, I'm like, like, he's got a point.
I screwed up. For you to say that though,
because it's not you like and when this means like your games
ticket and then he makes a video about you.
And I'm not saying she didn't get there because like crossword
didn't catch it and then Hillary brought it up and then they
caught it. That's not what I'm saying,
Dave, but now you have thousands of people saying you shouldn't
go to the games, right? Like she look at.
That morning she puts her scores in and next thing you know she
wakes up the next morning and Hiller has a video showing your
burpees. How many DMS do you get saying
you are trash like that is because of him?
Well, OK, John, so an analogous thing for you is the Big Mama
outlash. Sure.
I think I think that was worse than what Brooke is getting.
Here's the. 1. Huh, here and with the strong
women thing, Brooke's just saying, hey girl, your chest
isn't to the ground and. It wasn't.
Right. Like like.
Like I I'm not kidding you, it was for for a week a straight
week. I had 50 DMS saying that I
should go kill myself for a whole week dude.
And I'm like man, y'all have need better things to do.
Honestly I like this is you'd have thought I cheated on my
wife with my assistant and and and it was the type of DMS I was
getting. Mitchell probably got less DMS
on that than. You have wild wild.
Anyway. So I think that's worse than
what Brooke is getting. I think.
I think it's it's a little bit what you say where it's like he
has a point because I don't think he'll Hiller ever makes a
video out of like malice. He's just bringing it to light,
right. And he's and he's right, right.
Like I think most of the time he's, if not all the time, he's
right in what he's pointing out. But the backlash that comes with
it, I think is way out of proportion than what it should
be. Then what's the worst Hiller
video CrossFit related? Because I was going to talk
about Brian Fran, but that's not really a CrossFit video.
Hip and steel. Yeah.
Why just? Because he fought him about it
and like, it turned into like a whole like.
Well, that's the reaction to it though.
Like just literally the video, right?
Like the thumbnail comes out. I mean, Brian, Brian, Brian's
pretty. I think anytime he says like has
the worst or the best, like those are always like, those are
different videos. Those are like he's coming
after. This, I mean, I do know, like
when he made the video about Marcus Philly, like it wasn't
even that like bad, right? But like, I think I remember
Marcus reached out to him and his initial reaction was, oh,
no, what did I do? Like, yeah, I'd be worried,
right? And I think a few others have
been like that. I think the initial reaction is
oh crap. The the friend one's definitely
the I think the top one. I think HQ when they get videos,
when Hillary post videos, like I think Jeremy Cross, it effed up.
It wasn't me. See, it's easy and that's why I
want to give it a three because I'm like, yeah, it wasn't me.
You know what's? Crazy if Brooke just said that
when he made that, like like if Brooke is made a joke about it
and we're like, that wasn't me done, nothing happened, nothing
happened. Maybe you get penalized like
like I mean, I think she probably would still got because
the ring muscle ups are bad too, but like or just be like I was
in a mirror world and I'm actually the other way around.
But but like. Nothing.
Like no, the backlash that she got would not have happened.
It disarmed everything. At all.
Instead you make it. I never get no Rep to my burpees
ever. You know, and, and and you're
wrong. You know what I'm saying?
Like it it said you make it this thing and it shouldn't be a
thing. So.
Where do you want to put it, John?
I say to I don't think it's the worst thing ever, but I do think
it's not great if you wake up in the morning and you see it.
I will see to John, I think there might be some stuff in
here that that are better or worse.
Yeah, shrink that. Get it smaller.
Why is it not? Come on, come on.
We got it. Come on.
We'll just move it down here. Give it a second.
It's going to move that slow the whole.
Time. No, you got to be able to grab
it. It's.
There we go when that thing goes.
Towards the corner of the. Screen, just wait for it.
There we go. There we go.
All right, next one up. Here we go.
You got one or three left, no repping your final.
I think this is devastating, dude, dude, because like you're
one step away from making it to the games and then you fail and
then you bring it back. You try to rush it because
you're like, Oh my gosh, I failed, I need to go and then
you fail again. It's not just one no Rep on the
last lunge and ends up being like a minute right and I cannot
think of, you know, a person that this has happened to
multiple times that Tyler hates a lot.
But. That's the worst part.
About the no Rep on the last lunge is then you have to hear
me call you a quitter. That's true.
I don't want to do that, but I will do that.
So I'm going with #1 I don't want to be called a quitter.
I I would say #1 it happened to Annika too.
Yeah, but at World Fitness Project as well.
No, I yeah, I think that's, it's pretty devastating.
We're either going to. We got to work on.
We got to work on that. I don't know what's going on
right where we want to take that 111 all right number. 3 on this,
John. The only athlete left on the
floor. No, that's fine.
That's. Fine, all of your competitive.
I don't know. Telling you how to do a muscle
up. Hold.
On I. Think that's.
Go ahead, I'm going to mute myself, my parents.
Yeah, I definitely think that's a one.
I hate that feeling when it happened to me.
It's like there were all these we were at, we were prepping for
Crash. It was the first workout in the
swim event at the pool and Taylor wanted to work out and he
was like do this GHD swim workout with me.
I am not. I'm like not a bad swimmer, but
I'm not great. Taylor's pretty decent and it's
150 GHD setup since interval style.
Taylor finishes 2 rounds before I do.
And it's just me and like 60 people just looking at me and I
felt so stupid. I want to die in those moments.
I want to disappear, turn into a puddle of goo and just.
I guarantee like catching on the rope climbs 100 percents.
Like, yeah, no, this was the worst.
That was the worst regional moment of my entire career.
Yes. Bar none, right, like and the
people are trying to tell you how to do the workout.
Oh, just just you know, you can do it.
You can do that, you know, and. Though now that I think about
it, knowing that you are fit enough and you screwed up on
execution on a last lunge might be worse because you almost.
Had it's it's way worse, dude. It's way worse.
It's in the grip of your hands, and then your grip fails.
Yeah, I think, I think we did a good job.
I'll be right back. Yeah, I think, I think 3 should
be moved to two, sitting on the floor should be moved to two,
and Hitler should be moved down. But that's just me.
I think everything else is in order.
That's fair. OK.
Good job, John. John.
Disappeared. You can't comment that.
Give it the program and then all the athletes just circle around
like the circle of death. Yeah, the sharks, I feel like
that used to that happens. That happened more like nowadays
they don't do it as much. Like every once in a while
somebody will go back, but a lot of times they just kind of stand
there and watch you, which. We don't have the spread of
athletes we used to have like you.
Those things could happen a lot easier back in the day and now
it's like it's dwindled down to nothing, so all the athletes are
kind of qualified. All right, we better, we better
move on to this. Got 10 minutes and then we're
going to shut it down. Do we hate the WFP?
Tyler, you were there. I was.
I watched it from the live stream.
John I think watched at least a little bit from the live stream.
I watched the live stream, I watched it all everywhere.
Tyler, before we get into that, what were your thoughts of being
there in person at the UFP Tour Stop 1?
I've been itching to talk about this for a week.
I know you guys are like, yeah, yeah, let's hear it.
So we got, I went there and I was, I was trying to be very
open minded and I, I made that post on my story that like I was
asked no less than 10 times, why are you here?
You guys hate WFP which I thought was hilarious.
From fans or. Fans, coaches, athletes,
managers. All of them.
I even had. One fan come up to me and tell
me he watches the show. He's he's from Indy.
And then he almost apologized for going and.
They're like, no. Dude, like, these are the best
athletes in the world and they're in your hometown.
Definitely go. But I thought that was funny
that he was like halfway apologized.
Like no, like fuck that. But I went in super open minded,
like just trying to like I don't want to.
I don't want to hate anything going into it.
I think that they like so breakdown.
They were definitely focused on the athletes.
Like that's what they said they would do.
Overly so. OK, I'll swing back around that
later. The floor was cool as shit if
you were in person. It looked not great on the live
stream. It was really cool in person.
The athlete like warm up area, like it was an entire football
field. They had a ton of space.
It was nothing like water palooza where everybody's
cramped in. That worked too.
I think it's detriment almost. So I, I went around and I, I
sort of like talked to athletes that I knew and I knew that
either didn't like, or they were not paid by the WFP, but we're
competing there or they were paid by the WFP competing.
And the thing that I'll say is like the vibe felt like a six
and one athlete in particular told me like this feels like a
preseason game, like the, the, the hype was just down.
I think some of that had to do with the lighting.
Like if you go into a movie right and the and it's sort of
dark in there, like everybody's kind of whispering when it was
between events, like people weren't really loud.
It was sort of hushed tones the whole time.
And I think that decreased the vibe of the entire thing and
that so much like that the athletes felt that it was
definitely very, very quiet. It felt not not hype. 1 athlete
in particular told me that though they felt peaked and felt
ready to be there and wanted to like compete, to win that they
like, they just felt like there was a gear missing because the
hype was down. And why did you not speak the
freak up when Tanner was trying to talk that everybody was
competing? We weren't ready the the on on
the back end in what I've heard about the administration of the
event has been horror stories so much that people who worked the
event as like either judges or equipment managers, there's
different things like that said they were completely
understaffed. I heard one story that I think
yet he had coolers there and there was water and, and stuff
in those coolers and they had one cooler for essentially the
staff. And at one point they took it
and they were like, the athletes need it.
At which point, like one of the equipment managers were like,
there's not enough of us here. We don't even have time to get
water. But if we did now we don't
fucking have water. So it's like, I mean, some of
these people who are running the event have run multiple events
and like that's like a basic thing, like take care of the
people. And so it's like when I saw
these shirts of people matter more, which which people who are
you talking about? And so it's like somebody said,
like maybe just athletes matter more.
Well, just the good ones. I'll I'll let you go 'cause I
have like a a much longer spiel about what I think this implies
for the. The future yeah, I want I want
to play a a quick part of the video here on Train Think Tank.
They spoke about it and Perrin spoke.
I think more about the I think it's this was about the
atmosphere. Let's play a little clip.
Feel like the environment, I don't know how you guys felt,
was very laid back and in some ways maybe a little too laid
back. Like there wasn't, it wasn't the
pressure of qualifying for the games or on the line, which I
think maybe help some people relax into it and for some
people, maybe the first tour people have the game still to
come. People are waiting for.
People just finished the online just.
Finished and they might have been a little bit flat.
That was the only thing I feel like intensity and mood.
I didn't feel like there was as much crazy competition between
people, but as far as what they had laid out for everyone, there
was more than enough space. Very good warm up area.
As far as they had all the implements except for the burpee
blocks I think. Yeah, there's no ballistic
blocks the. Ballistic blocks was the only
thing missing they. Brought in extra.
So I mean, I think Perrin would agree with you, right?
Like I would say, first of all, go go watch that if you want to
get a first hand perspective of what they thought, because I
think all of them were there. No, I think you're I think
that's right. Like the pre season probably is
a really good way of putting it. And Kotler, Kotler kind of
touched on it on Clydesdale this this evening.
They aren't fighting for a GameSpot.
It's not all on the line, right? And all of it has been you're
trying to get points and the final, the final event in
Copenhagen is worth double. That's where you're going to
move the most. And so I've heard a lot of like,
well, you know, it's just one out of three.
It's not the end of the world like and and Kotler kind of
spoke about he he he spoke about it really positively.
But then like, you know, you get all these opportunities, but at
the same time, like there wasn't that fire, right?
Like your whole season's not on the line.
It's not coming down to it. You can be laid back.
I want to watch people fight for it gets the playoffs.
Like you don't watch game three of Major League Baseball and get
that invested in who wins. Like you want your team to win,
cool, great. But it's just one out of 162
games. And I get the threes less.
But there's something about being in the playoffs.
Playoff baseball in October is way different than regular
season baseball. NBA.
Well, I mean, I think I think down said what it needs to be
and I don't know if the organizers like look at it as
that on the on the coffee pods and watch show.
If it's his last question, if you want to, if you can go find
it. It's been but he I'm sorry for
putting it on, which if you can't, no worry.
It was the last question downside.
But he said that he looked at it like like CrossFit is at Harbor
freight spin. If you can mute your tab I'd be
appreciate. It Hey now I'm trying to find it
for you. Just calm down.
CrossFit. Harbor Freight new new sponsor.
That's. Right.
The CrossFit Games is like the Super Bowl of fitness, right?
It's the Olympics, right? And the gold medal, whoever wins
the 100 meter dash is the fastest man in the world.
And then the World Fitness Project is the Diamond League,
and it's just for marketing. You can win money doing it.
It's a big competition. The biggest athletes show up to
it. But it's never looked at as
like, who wins? That is the fastest man alive.
I don't know if he said it more clearly, but do you have it now?
It's been. I did, yeah.
Just. Isn't it the bar Palooza that?
No, but it's a series. The Diamond League's a series.
Like there's multiple competitions, there's
championship at the end, like, and I thought it was a perfect
analogy. I think this is it.
It's time since now go, you know, with all the competitions,
the shaft really is big and it is long, tall, all the things.
But the way I see it is the CrossFit Games, you are the
pinnacle of the sport. You find the fittest on Earth.
Everyone knows the title, everyone knows what to turn to
at that point. And I watch a lot of track right
now and to compare it, the crossword Games is the Olympics,
right? You want to come home with the
Olympic gold? You want to be the fittest on
Earth. We have Rogue where it's like
the World Championships happens every year, but it's one of the
biggest meets you can go to or competitions.
For our sake. And then you have WFP, which
would be more like the Diamond League, and you have all the
best athletes there all the time, consistent season.
Yeah, they're throwing out. They're throwing out money in
the Diamond League and winning. That is a big deal because not
only do you get prize money, you get to grow your brand, whatever
it might be, continue to compete and establish dominance on your
competitors. And I think all of those things
are great opportunities. That's kind of how I see the
shaft that's. How you see the shaft?
Barry Mcconnor is Dallin sponsored by Tier.
Maybe we're not sure we should ask them.
But now I think the next question should be, do the
organizers and the people in charge of the WFP, do they see
it as the Diamond League? Because it's easy for the
athletes to say that it's easy. And if I was an athlete that had
a pro card and all this stuff, I would too.
It's free money that I'm getting, right?
And like all the Instagram, all the Instagram videos of the
athletes talking about the WFP, they're paying them.
You're not going to say bad things about people who are
paying you. But if if the WFP came out and
said that's exactly what we are, we're we're the Diamond League.
We are not trying. We're not what the CrossFit
Games are like. We want to one day, we want to
grow, and if we can grow and have the most prize money, maybe
we can replace it eventually. Like even if they had that game
planned. Well, there's more money in the
Diamond League than the Olympics.
Right. And I think I'm not looking like
a strongman, like where the Rogue Invitational has way more
money for strongman than the actual World's Strongest Man.
But there's only one title that's the world's Strongest
Man. It doesn't even matter that that
one has more money. Obviously all the big people
want to do it, but it doesn't. It's not the title, right?
But if the organizers looked at it like that, I think everybody
could be. I think everybody would be all
about the WFPI. Don't think they do.
I think the athletes look at it like that.
I think if it was that, it would be great and I'm all for it.
I think what you guys are alluding to or know or whatever,
or rumors, the organizers don't feel that way.
Go ahead. I want to spend you have
something before I go off. Would you agree with that
though, that if it was like that, you'd be all about it if
that's truly was what it was? Yes, somebody made a point to me
that they asked some of the athletes when they left, you
know how you feel about it. And they were like, oh, it was
good. And he was like, was it really
good? Like or are you like, if I went,
if you, if you went to like a semi final and like I asked you
how it was and it was good, you would say like it was good.
And that that levity in the good.
He was like, I think like that's the bottom paid for side of it.
Is that the the money going towards this is like paying for
that, that faith and that seeing things through roads, colored
glasses. Now to hit on what John's saying
about they want to be the Diamond League or whatever, they
100% don't. I I said they.
Should be. That's what they should want to
be. That's not what they want.
I'm I'm saying we can get behind it if they were and they're not,
and that's why we're not behind. It I I understand OK, they it
was not a secret to like I I'm getting rather frustrated
because I've heard people say it since is like they're not
competing with CrossFit. It is not a secret to those who
are there that they are competing with CrossFit.
If you just look at like market share, like they are in
competition with CrossFit, they are like they're taking sponsors
who would otherwise go to other events.
Now I'm not saying like sponsors shouldn't go to the best events.
They should. But what I'm saying is is like
beyond just market share, they are gunning for taking over the
CrossFit sphere. This is where I start to have an
issue. I don't care like run a good
event. Like, that's great.
I care about all the other things that matter.
And to me, and I think what I summed it up best, when I talked
to somebody notable in the space, they were like, I thought
you hate, hated this and. Or.
That no, not in WFP. It took me a little while to
articulate it. They they were like, it seems
like a concerted effort amongst your group that you didn't cover
this and they were like, do you hate, do you really hate the
WFP? And I said, I'm not going to
speak for the group, but I think for me, what I summarize all
this as is until we know what it looks like around CrossFit, we
are going to be hesitant. The thing that matters most to
me is the nugget of CrossFit. We're changing lives.
We're fixing all that and, and, and the fruits that come out of
CrossFit, if they are in competition with CrossFit, this
is detrimental to all of that. The longer the bleed goes on of
the affiliates that is on CrossFit, but it doesn't help
when others might be leaving to be a WFP affiliate.
If WFP takes over, those affiliates starts doing all
that, that's a drain off of CrossFit.
And at the end of the day, like if everybody left and what
became a WWFP affiliate tomorrow, at the end of the day,
WFP doesn't hold anything. They do CrossFit, but they don't
have that centralized methodology and spirit and
mission that CrossFit has. They don't have the religion.
They don't have the religion and faith of all of that.
And so we need the mothership to survive.
And while I don't work for CrossFit, nor am I fucking paid
by CrossFit or anyone I know paid by CrossFit, we care about
that. And we equally throw out shots
at CrossFit. It's not like we have just been
like totally hype on HQ this whole time.
Like we care about that mission. We care about the centralized
part of it, of what that mission is.
And if, if WFP is gunning for that, this will bleed out the
entire system to death. It will crash because CrossFit
won't quit. WFP won't quit.
And guess what? It's just going to demolish the
entire thing. So the longer this goes on, the
worse it's going to get. No, I, I, yes, you, you said
that perfectly. Like, first of all, I want to
address I didn't post things because I was traveling for
work. That's why I was not on the show
Wednesday. I got back on Friday.
I didn't feel well, like exhausted from doing other stuff
not related to the barbell spin. I just didn't have time.
Like I do it like I share what I can.
It wasn't that I was trying to avoid the world fitness project.
I didn't do anything for French throw down either.
Like, yeah. So Like Silence was not trying
to boycott anything. We didn't talk about the French
throw down on on the show. We're not talking about TFX that
starts tomorrow like we. Not only did we not talk about
it, the people who are throwing shade at us for not covering
either one well. He won hosted French Throwdown.
In the the app is the the least participated he won we've ever
run. So it's like, throw shade at us.
You don't care. You didn't care to play.
Yeah, Yeah. So we didn't.
Just not cover world fitness prob we didn't cover.
Anything. So, yeah, yeah.
To John. 'S point.
They also. Talked about it on Training
Think tank. Let me pull it up here.
I think when you are paid you say things differently when
asked versus behind the scenes. And and this kind of slipped
out. They asked.
Laurie Winkelman asks. How did the lighting affect
things? For the athletes, I heard a
decent amount. Of complaints on there were
three GHDS they said going down light straight in the eye,
sitting up light straight in the eye climbs yeah at rope climbs,
which they said was a little bit more sketchy and nobody
complained about it in person on the jerk, but I heard people
commenting on it that it was so the the rule for the jerk was at
the. Whoops when I posted a video.
Which was me watching the. Live stream.
And I couldn't see anything because it was too dark and I
saw videos of others post like from the the.
Venue, right, It didn't. Look as dark on the phone
coverage or whatever. But if I'm watching the screen,
I want to be able to see the athletes and I couldn't see who
was in what lane. It was like you back out of the
spotlight. You couldn't see it.
Like the shadows were bad. But then everybody, everybody on
the on the post, if you go look at some of the athletes.
Like Oh no, this the lighting was.
Great, that's what I want. Yet back in the back, when
they're talking to their coaches and others amongst themselves,
they're complaining about the lights in their eyes.
The rope climbs. Are sketched 'cause you look.
Up and there's a spotlight coming straight.
Down from that you can't. See exactly where you're
grabbing or where you're going to hit.
First of all, everybody's complaining about safety.
That's a safety issue. But to John's point, you're we
heard zero complaints about it. Why?
Because 40 of the the 100 athletes were paid and everybody
wants us to succeed. That was there.
I don't want it to fail, but you have to be honest with yourself
that. The lighting was not good on the
live. Stream it just wasn't it wasn't
and like you have to make it better and.
Like the the different color of. Christmas tree lights, whatever.
Like fine, but like you go look at any, I dare you to go back
and look at a CrossFit Games venue, right?
And seeing the crowd, there's something to see in the crowd
cheering in front of you, right? Like Noah said, Like, oh, you.
Just didn't, you could hear. Them, but you couldn't see them.
How many times does a Games athlete go across the finish
line and there's people right there in front giving them high
fives, cheering in front of them.
They hugged their spouse or whatever, and it's a huge,
awesome moment. You got zero of that.
And I complained about Rogue. I thought it was too dark.
I felt like you couldn't tell that what the atmosphere was and
everybody said the. Atmosphere is great there.
We we couldn't tell on the live stream I.
Complained about rogue from that I don't like that darkness and I
think. Framework events did both.
It's their signature. Huh?
Turn off. It's a.
Let's draw. Go ahead.
Go. Ahead spin.
Sorry I you have. To like I'm watching this as.
A fan this weekend. I didn't I didn't cover it.
I'm not doing anything other than just watching the live
stream when I had time and I, you know, I, you when, when we
call. Something out it's.
Not because we're hating, it's because we're this is what we're
seeing. We're not the only ones.
And so you have to, you can't confuse A criticism with hate.
No. And that's the thing that people
don't like that we do is we will openly.
Criticize just like we've openly criticized CrossFit for years,
but it's like we it's because we wanted to be better.
It's only because we are trying to hate it.
John. Sorry, John.
Let's let's draw lines then, because you guys say that.
The you guys, you guys. Like like.
I just I want I. Want a definitive stance, not
even just for people, but for me, because I don't know where
we are. I know, I know.
I was confused. I No, no.
Here, here, me out, here, me out.
Ben, you just said it's not. That I don't.
Want it to succeed if they're definitively against CrossFit,
do you not not want them to succeed?
Because I I'm with you. If it's if it's like they don't
want they want to take over CrossFit if the open.
I'm a full on believer if the open is no more, which would
happen if WFP was the leading. Like that's what that's the
leading thing in fitness, right? Even if say they did it would
like that's the big thing for fitness.
If the open goes away, it will be the death of CrossFit.
I fully believe that because then there is no community.
There is none. And I know some people disagree
with that and say the affiliates will always survive.
They I I think it would be the death of CrossFit as we know it,
especially as a sport for sure. But I think it would bleed even
deeper. So if you think, if you think
for whatever reasons and we can talk more in depth on it after
the show, like that's that's the goal, that's what they want.
There is no, there's not going to be a happy party after this.
Like it's not there's no chance we can't live in harmony or like
two different things in the athletes and it's going to be
good for the athletes in the future that coincide with the
CrossFit games. If you don't think that can
happen, why? And then let's let's have a
stance on This is why we're not going to cover them because they
they. Want the death of?
CrossFit. And if they don't, then tell me
what we're doing. Like what?
I think they are, I think. I think the lie.
I think saying they don't want to they could want.
To coexist with CrossFit is not true.
And you think the athletes are blind to this?
They're lying to the. Athletes.
I I think that they I don't think it's a lie, they just
haven't stated it. But the athletes are.
Blind to it. Some of them probably, I think.
A lot of them. I don't think it's a.
Bad thing for the athletes. To be blind to it if you're.
Somebody's giving me $30,000. I'm taking it and thinking
they're great too, but they're blind to the fact that what
they're trying to do big picture, and I think it just
needs to be made clear that it's not criticism.
These people want to kill CrossFit for their own gain.
Let we need to look at it like this is what it is and just make
it clear. And if the and the athletes, the
athletes need to know that because I think if they knew
that they wouldn't be singing the graces of of WFPI don't do.
I don't think Colton's going to randomly now that he's on or it
might end. I don't think he's going to sing
the graces of WFPI think he's going to take their money and
make fun of them. Watch this clip Real Quick is a
competitor to WFP. Or do.
Music is terrible 2. Separate things or is it?
Two things that that can. Absolutely.
Coexist, but there's no competitiveness.
Right, well, how do you feel in regards to that?
I'm just staying in my own lane. And.
Delivering on what our vision is, yeah.
And I think the whole team would do that.
Like we have too much going on right now to worry about what
other people are doing. They're saying in the media or
other businesses, we'll focus on delivering an incredible product
to our community. That is not the answer.
That was being said three months ago.
And we've said the. Whole time 3.
Months ago is no. And we want both.
We want. The athletes to be able to do
both. We just want more opportunities
for them. Give them up now, have more
money now. It's I'm only focused on myself.
I want to not worry about what other people are doing.
I think Will should. Talk to the rest of people on
his. Team.
Look, we have seen it the last. Month athletes have withdrawn
from competitions. Athletes have picked and choose
which way they want to go. It it directly competed against
the. French throw down and you're not
going to tell me. That you didn't know the
CrossFit schedule so you just had to pick a date.
I'm almost positive they said that that they had to make a
change. To the schedule because.
It was going to be May 17th in Oklahoma City and they moved it
up a week right at the last four years, May 17th has had a semi
final. Don't lie that you're doing
that. If if you if you don't want to
compete with it, you put it in the.
Offseason you put. It in between August and
January, right? That's the more opportunities.
You don't put it staggering and on top of the CrossFit game
season if you don't have a motive to take it over, right?
And then you have people like Pat Velner who comes in there
underprepared. You have Laura Horvath who
throws A temper tantrum on her last lunge.
You have athletes who don't appear to be as trying as hard
as they could because in Kotler's terms, it's a season.
They're not fighting for that one spot to make it to the
Games, to make their season. It's not the playoffs, so they
back off if they don't feel like pushing as hard as they can and
you have people that have competed multiple weeks in a
row. And they don't come in fresh.
You see subpar from what you're used to, and then world in this
project is going to add another event next year.
How does it make sense? Like athletes are already trying
to figure it out. Gazan skipped.
Semifinals because she couldn't do multiple weeks in a row.
She didn't do mayhem because she had to.
She wanted to focus on this and they had a plan to.
Try to do. Both, but I asked on Clydesdale,
I said how much is too much and. And Kotler couldn't.
Couldn't answer that. They're trying to figure that
out right now and you're going to add another another
competition. The only thing you can do is
then split the. You have to make a decision.
You can't do both well and all these athletes have had multiple
opportunities to. Compete.
You could compete. At Wadapalooza in person, you
could compete in semifinals, the Games, Rogue, if you're good
enough, which is all this is really matters about.
You have Dubai Down Under championship.
There's all kinds of in person competitions that are large
enough and athletes skip them over and over and over again
because they couldn't compete too much.
And now you have a new league in there and you're saying.
Yeah, we're. Not we're not trying to compete.
We're going to put a competition right in the middle of your
schedule a month after in the same month as the games, and
we're going to add 1 next year. Tell me you're not competing.
Tell me you're not trying to blow it up.
And we're going to come down with a watered down product.
If half the athletes decide to go WFP route for $30,000 a year,
great. But if they come out and say it,
what then? Well, at least we know.
What we're dealing with right now, we, we, we have to read.
But I think you've kind of convinced.
Yourself. That's what we're dealing with.
So like, we are, we are. They just won't say it.
I I'm saying, well, let's just talk about it like that's what
it is. Well, it's OK, so they.
Come out and they say, they say I need somebody this ask Will.
Directly, do you want to take over the?
CrossFit Spear and ultimately means the death of the CrossFit
Games. I like just that question
straightforward and not word salad answer like yes or no, you
know what I mean? And then just you answer the
questions. What would that gain then?
Well, that's what I'm asking, Spin.
Like you, you're. Clearly convinced of this and
I'm not. Saying you're wrong.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just wish we could not be
selfish either things, you know what I mean?
Like I wish it could just be another competition.
It was well ran, probably not sustainable, but the competition
was good. I wanted to coexist.
I wanted to be successful for the athletes, but it's WF PS
fault if they're like they can't accept what role they could
have. They could have you.
You understand what I'm saying like, and if they're not going
to, I want it to be abundantly clear.
And if that's what we're operating off of that this is
what they're going to do, then let's not talk about the Will's
word salad. Let's not talk about like the
inconsistencies we're there. They're trying to take over
CrossFit. They don't want to.
Say it, but they are. They don't say it's the
athletes. Every single time we have an
athlete on here, we should say, do you know you're being lied
to? That should be the first
question. And then see how they.
Answer it and be. Like I know you're getting paid
$30,000. You don't have to answer the
question, but you are blind to what they want to do.
They don't want CrossFit to be a thing anymore.
Like, that's how we should operate.
We shouldn't be like, well, maybe you know what I mean?
Like, it's already done. And we're convinced, is what I'm
saying. Like, let's make it clear all
the way around. Dallon's answer to that question
is very telling. Like I had never heard somebody
speak like that about the two because I think if every other
communication, it's been world. Fitness projects where it's at.
That's where I want to put my focus on.
And to Dallin's statement it it to me.
It sounds like, hey, I still want to win the CrossFit.
Games I don't mind doing this because there's some money on
the line and I'll compete and I'm fitness privileged.
That's that's Tyler's words, not mine or his, but I don't think
it's sustainable. And if you listen to.
Talking to Elite Fitness Tommy Marquez.
Is like, oh, what if athletes go to the TFX this weekend to get
hurt and then they end up getting into the through the
semifinals? They didn't have to compete.
You can say the same thing about going to World Fitness Project
instead of going. To the games like somebody.
Could have gotten hurt. Like Travis Mayer's hurt,
Bethany Bethany Flores is hurt. Emily Rolfe sounds like she's
hurt. Like what if they don't go to
the CrossFit Games this year? Do you blame the athletes for?
Trying to get theirs, no. I don't blame the athletes at
all, but I don't think they should be.
Lied to. I think World Fitness Project is
lying to them. I think Dallon is blind to
what's really happening and I think he would admit that he's
blind to what's really happening.
I think he hopes it's the Diamond League.
He wants that to be the case. That's why he answered it that
way, because to him that's what it feels like.
Like there's way for the world athletes to make money, but it's
not and it's a way from. Everything else they don't.
See. They're not a part of, you know
what I mean? So I think most of the athletes
are are blind to this and I don't think it's their fault at
all. Now, let me let me ask you, let
me ask you this question. Hold on, hold on, hold on right
here. Adidas is kind of a dope
sponsor. If you watch Hiller's video,
it's pretty. It sounds like they.
Paid $0.00. Same with Noble.
That's the rumor going on is that those guys paid $0.00.
That's not a sponsor deal. Let.
Me. Ask you what were you going to
say? John, let me ask you this
question if. If they were like, our goal is
to be the biggest. Thing in CrossFit.
The CrossFit Games can still be the CrossFit Games, but we're
going to operate and we want it. We want to eventually be the
biggest thing. And like they were up front
about saying that and they're not trying to replace the
CrossFit Games. They're still going to be the
open. They're still going to be like,
however you get to the CrossFit Games, but like how Rogue Rogue
is, you know, the winner of Rogue wins basically the same
amount as the CrossFit Games. They're close enough, right?
If Rogue was $500,000, it would be the most, but I still think
the CrossFit Games would be the CrossFit Games.
Rogue has never tried to step on CrossFit Games toes ever, right?
They have great relationship, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Do you think it's possible for the World Fitness project to
want to do that, for that to be their goal and it can coexist.
But like the strongman thing, like it's just it, it does get
bigger than I don't think it's sustainable either.
I'm just saying, I'm just saying like on a cloud 9 future trip,
do you think they could be what they want to be and then the
CrossFit Games still be the CrossFit Games, the Open still
be the open. You can't have you can't have 4
plus competitions a year. And in that that interview that
you saw there with Will, he's talking about even having on
more or adding in person challenger qualifiers, not the
online piece of things like adding.
More and more and more. Like not going to work.
Like you cannot do that. And I get Kotler on here right
now, and he'd say I don't know how.
Many times that Alex can. Compete.
Alex is 23. She could probably compete as
much as anybody else, but concerned about her injuries,
concerned about overuse, concerned about.
Burnout, all of that stuff. And as it is now, even if
they're just four and they say we want to coexist, there's.
Athletes making decisions. French throw down look at the
field that just competed not even close to what semifinals
was last year Why? Because all the European
athletes that are still competing were in Indianapolis,
right? So you, you, you're watering
down the field in both cases. Because if it would have been.
Nice. Maybe Brontoslaw?
Would have competed in WFP. OK, that that probably adds to
the challenger field or or the the pro field if he made it in
the qualifier. Like those athletes could all be
in one spot, but they're not going to be because there's too
many competitions that are going to overlap.
It's just not going to work. Clip this athletes be ready.
Next year, the. WFP will have more.
Events. And they will schedule.
It during the CrossFit season with no regard.
I'm not telling you that this might happen.
This is 100% going to happen like on Syndicate on.
An affiliate semi finals. Good chances any if you're going
to have one, if you're going to have one.
Per quarter. It's going to line up pretty
darn close. And you're you're telling me?
That people can't adjust. Their training and and make it.
Only a few can. So.
John, you wanted a definitive. Statement of where I stand I'm.
Not going to turn this into a red team versus a blue team
thing. The thing I care about is is
maybe the red team, if we're going to be 1, whatever color
you want, green. Orange.
Let's let's. Let's explicitly use red and
blue, and I want to be red, OK? The well scenario.
Three, which is new commenter, welcome to.
The show scenario three, I doubt it will happen Tyler dot dot dot
they're going to fold under the financial pressure.
I will say this very, very clearly, billions of dollars at
their. Disposal.
Billions. I won't play the.
Red team versus. Blue team game, I think some.
Of the things they're trying to do, like some of their
initiatives are good. You want to pay the athletes,
you want to highlight people you want to get you want them to
give more team like opportunities for sponsorship or
highlight them that that's cool. It's all great.
Even with the the affiliate thing or the the world fitness,
what's it called? Projects.
Yeah, projects cool. It's like that's.
Just CrossFit, that's what. It's doing.
You knew what? It was called.
Man, don't be 7. That's.
A bit. Come on.
No, I really. I really didn't know.
No, go ahead. Go ahead.
Look, look, look, look. You tried to.
Take seven. You weren't sucking.
Up like a madman right now. Dude, come on, it is trying to.
It is the trying to destroy of. What we're all.
After and you, I think they think this is a good idea and,
and they are paying the athletes to believe that what they're
doing is the right thing. And I think if athletes step
away and they look at the full, the full scope, John, you were
saying like the athletes, they need to ask the questions or
somebody in the comments was saying like the athletes should
be smart enough to answer the questions they can answer or ask
questions all day. But if you're told a lie, you
don't know any fucking better. And I was like, I don't.
I don't blame the athletes at all.
I think a few. Of them might.
Know, but I think the vast majority of them are just trying
to do what's good for them. And it's like, I'm not asking
you to take money out of your pocket to save some higher idea.
That's that's my job. But like, it's a lot more
complicated than it seems. And the.
Methodology and all that stuff that our ecosystem suffers the
longer this goes on. Now there is a possibility in
which WFP could buy CrossFit. That's very real, very real.
And then what does that look like?
What happens if they buy CrossFit?
That that's what I just asked. I.
Know I'm asking you guys. I wouldn't ask you the question.
If I knew the answer, Tyler. Then.
What's the? Solution I I mean I might I I I
I. Offered this conversation.
To somebody. And I was like, hey, what if I
kind of have to shut up if they do buy a CrossFit and they
uphold the methodology and they said I don't think they will
because ultimately this is all been about money so far.
Somebody said this is a business model.
It is a business model. And what I.
Fear is that they do, that they do take over.
I mean, yeah, you can reject the offer until they come in with
some of them billions, and then you can't reject the offer
anymore. They're being sold by Berkshire.
Yeah. It's not Crossfit's decision.
It's it's Berkshire. No, like I'm still going to
cover it, but I'm not. I don't.
You, you heard? Parents say it.
It seemed like it was more of a just somewhat somewhat of an
exhibition. Dallon's talking about it as a a
a money league. It's not the playoffs like the
CrossFit game. Season like.
We want to crown the fittest on earth.
We want to see who can take the methodology the furthest to
become the fittest on Earth. That's what excites me, right?
Watching people do thrusters for.
Points is not. As exciting, it's not going to
be right like over like multiple competitions and all this.
Stuff and you're not going. To be trying as hard if there is
nothing else out there and that was what it was, OK, fine.
But you can't come in and try to bully and push off.
I don't want to say bully, but like come in and.
And. Use different language to say
what you're trying to do and it's not actually upfront, you
know we. Started covering and we started
doing CrossFit. We didn't come in and do the
world fitness project. And time and time again, new
leagues have been formed. Live golf, IndyCar racing, a lot
of these things have come in with a competing league and it's
blown up. And both have suffered from it.
And CrossFit is not big. Enough if you care about this
if. You care about watching the
sport. It's not big enough to handle
that blow up. It's not and like.
But again, what's? What is the solution then?
Hate, hate on it. That's not a solution, says.
I know he's convinced that. He's convinced that.
CrossFit will always. Be.
Around and I, I. Think differently.
I don't, I don't. I don't disagree with you.
The methodology will live on Forever 100.
Percent. And he's saying, like the
affiliates won't, the wind in our sails changes greatly.
With. The more you turn into F45 with
barbells. I agree and it's like.
That that becomes died down eventually.
And that's what I'm concerned of.
Go find a podcast about F45. Go find a podcast.
About Orangetheory, right? It's just a gym.
That's all it is. There's a difference.
There's a reason who want to feel.
Good about themselves that aren't actually doing anything
right. Like there is a.
Difference, and I'm not saying the sport is the the.
The competition side, the game side is what has to be there,
but it it does draw an entire world together for an open, a
community, things that are bigger than that.
And yeah, great. There's a there's CrossFit as a
gym down the road and you can go across the country and find a
CrossFit gym. It is different if you don't
have that and if that's what gets torn down.
So we could have the top 20 athletes make a.
Career out of. It I don't think it's not worth
it. It's not worth it, but OK.
The the only. Thing that can stop it then is
the athletes not doing it right. Like what else?
And they're, and they're going to be forced to make that
decision. Next year and we'll see.
What happens and if it's some athletes really think this is
the future and then some athletes have that feeling of
like I can't do both I'd. Still rather.
Be crowned fittest on earth, like Dallon said.
And let's say Dallon goes to CrossFit Games route and let's
say Medeiros goes world fitness project, right?
Let's say Hatfield goes. World Fitness and Colton Goes
Games. That would suck to not watch
them compete in the same arena. So what?
What do we do? We.
I think and what I will continue
to do. Is I'll cover it, but don't look
to me to be like the most excited person.
Don't expect to have all these prediction shows or a a World
Fitness Project mountain. Like we would still.
Watch it. We'll still talk about it like
we are now. We're not going to ignore it and
I don't think again this past weekend was not ignoring it like
there are life events that happen.
Tyler was there, I was there, but like and we're going to use
with a baby on the way it was. Not an easy fucking.
Thing to do? We're going to talk about world
fitness. Project, we're going to think
about it in terms of. How it impacts the CrossFit.
Games, but it's all all it's going to be is a toggle on down
like it's one one of the. Topics but don't.
Yeah, but don't. Expect us to be like, screw the
CrossFit Games, we're going to cover this.
This is the most. Important thing because I think
it is dangerous to CrossFit and the CrossFit Games.
The athletes and the community. I wish, I wish the athletes
would all watch. This.
Episode then not even the whole episode but like just.
This part. So.
They can. 'Cause I, I had five athletes
text me and say, why can't you guys get on board with the World
Fitness Project? And I know Tyler had countless
people ask him the same thing. And I want it to be made so
clear that this is, these are the lines in the sand.
And we are team CrossFit, CrossFit survival and they are
not. And that is why we do what we
do. It is not because we're hating.
They have made this line and we're we're choosing to be on
this side of it. I've said it if they put it.
In the offseason. Not in the middle of the game.
Season, I think it could be great.
We are a. 100%. On board dude.
Late August to. Late August to.
Mid January like that's your. That's your season, everything
could coexist and everything would be great.
And I want, I want people to understand I am not like pro
WFPI, just want it to work for everybody so badly 'cause I know
the athletes want it to work and I care about the athletes,
believe it or not. I know I speak pretty bad about
them a lot, but I want it to succeed.
I want the sport to grow and I think it could help everything
grow, but it cannot compete with the CrossFit Games and that's on
them. That's on them.
So I I'm. Team hater if we want to go.
That route is what I'm. Saying we'll go bored.
It's Ben's been the captain for a while.
Do you you? Understand where I'm at though,
like I. Don't understand you were you
were asking about solutions? What do we?
Do just CrossFit take them down? I need a box will more.
Add we need pay-per-view boxing match.
I think there's going. To be so many put people pull
this podcast and they'll be like, they haven't said that.
They are against CrossFit and it's like, no, they haven't said
it to you. They have said it to some
people. There's we'll just.
Set it in that. We'll set it in that interview.
Well, I think. Spin you're reading.
Into it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The messaging. Has changed no and I I need.
Clear questions asked him and so you.
Can only answer yes or no. And if he can't do it, you've
said yes or no. Yeah.
Yes, and I think the. The the WWE and the WCW did come
together. We aren't those things.
They were much larger at the time.
We can't, we can't withstand that sort of blast right now.
And I, I get it, dude. Like I'm saying like, oh,
CrossFit, like they should be able to withstand.
They should be able to stand on their own.
They fucking can't right now. And that's why it's like, OK,
what do we do, John? You were asking?
CrossFit can't do anything right now.
They can't. They don't have the money.
Berkshire doesn't want to fight. They have.
They try to. They have to try to sell.
WFP might be a potential buyer. So they can't go against the WFP
right now. They can't do anything about
this. There is one way through this,
and it's Rich Froning. OK, I like it.
Go ahead. I'll leave Frazier. 9:00 and
9:00 Thank you for covering all the CrossFit cop topics.
So well. Jump ship, you're right.
Rich Froning for CEO. I'm I'm all for it.
You like it What you like that If it?
Means that we. Succeed.
Yes, I'm all. For it I.
I don't care how. We get there.
I just want CrossFit to survive, I want the Open to stay, I want
the community to be excited about the Open again, and I want
the Games to always be the Super Bowl of fitness.
That is all that is. My whole agenda is that I don't
go around and say that I care about European athletes and then
not cover the French throwdown. That's not what I do spend
because somebody else has paid me.
I say exactly what I want to say and I follow through on
everything. That's one thing.
I think, Tyler, you might have said this.
Whatever. Whatever I say to your face,
whatever I say to your face, that's what I'm saying behind
your back. It's the.
Exact same. Thing I have I have no agenda at
all. I I want people to work
together, but I think I'm nicer actually in person than most
people. But I and there's no hidden
agenda if we're going to, if we're going.
To go to war. Then we're going to go to war,
and I'm all for Rich if Rich means that we win the war.
Yeah. All right, I'm going to leave
you with this. Will Morad come join our short
next? Show next week Jon wants.
To ask you if you add the balls will morad and if you don't then
that shows us what type of man. You are OK.
We'll see you next week. Will I apologize to?
Absolutely nobody.