1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,240 Good evening everybody. Welcome to a bonus edition of 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,520 the Spin. It's May 10th Friday night. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,240 Hopefully John Young will be here soon to join us. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:19,200 He actually is setting up a new MacBook Air laptop. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,440 So he has better technology. He's just trying to get it all 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 set up. So he is going to hopefully join 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,600 us if he can get that all working. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,120 In the meantime, I wanted to jump on here tonight and discuss 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,680 the CrossFit Games allocations that just came out. 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,480 So yeah, we're going to open up the phone line here after I kind 11 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:46,480 of go through what is happening here, so you guys can weigh in. 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,080 But Travis. Yeah, Solo spin. 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,280 That's right. Kathy, good morning. 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,440 From Down under. I imagine everybody in Oceania 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:04,040 is pretty happy right now. So go back two days and. 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Well, actually Vittorio. Yes, looking fresh. 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,440 Got a haircut. Also, if you notice, I am 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,040 wearing a CrossFit shirt. This is one of the Northern 19 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,080 Spirit shirts called the Smurf Shirt. 20 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,400 I don't know how I got it. I received the package in the 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,720 mail from from Northern Spirit and yeah, there was this shirt 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,640 in here. It is giant. 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,680 This is a size large and it is the biggest, heaviest shirt I've 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,640 ever owned. So if you're at one of the semi 25 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,320 finals, I I believe Northern Spirit will be at all of them. 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Yeah, if it if it's your style, go for it. 27 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Otherwise, you know, you can just watch me wear this crazy 28 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,720 huge thing. Yes, this is a large, like I am 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,160 6 foot tall. I am not Savant's size, and this 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,880 thing swallows me up. And Pedro actually commented he 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:10,160 has one too and said that it's like scuba material, like this 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,080 thing where Melanie, there's no chance I fill it out. 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,280 It is ridiculously huge. So yeah, going back to the 34 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:25,160 allocations, 2 days ago Boz was on our show and he offered up 35 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,680 one of an interesting thing that we really hadn't talked about 36 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,880 and that is the the number of allocations to the CrossFit 37 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,320 games for each semi final. And I had written some articles 38 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,280 the last couple months talking about how Oceanic could get an 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,960 extra spot the women. Also how possibly South American 40 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,280 women could get a spot. If it all worked out then Bosman 41 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:57,720 drops this. For you guys to we're going to 42 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,280 release the strength of field distribution on Friday. 43 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,960 On the show Live Cool. Right now. 44 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,720 So Friday, those are coming out and one thing I want to say 45 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,760 about that, you know we since we introduced that system, you know 46 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,760 people are always kind of asking what athletes are included in 47 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,920 that pool etcetera. And a lot of kind of criticism 48 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:22,080 around like OK, what about athletes that go team, what 49 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,160 about athletes that decline their invite, that sort of 50 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,120 thing. So this year we are going with 51 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,760 only athletes that are active participants in the individual 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,200 semi finals. So that means only athletes that 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,280 are competing in that division that have knocked on team are 54 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,840 not declined for some other reason. 55 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:42,360 So it'll truly be just the group of participants that are at that 56 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 semi final dictating how many spots that they get. 57 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,720 So there you go. And to be honest when Baz 58 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:57,000 mentioned that it didn't really register how big of an impact 59 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,440 that was going to be. Now I've done the calculations, 60 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,040 you know on the on the old format how it was done last year 61 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 and it basically just took the top 100. 62 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,760 If you competed in in quarter finals in the individual 63 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,040 quarterfinals you were gaining points and you would be included 64 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,079 in the worldwide rankings. And so even if you didn't 65 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:24,000 qualify when you were 99th in the worldwide rankings your your 66 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,640 rank then went into this the haunt method calculation and you 67 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,720 could help your region gain a spot. 68 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,840 And so like Matilda Garnes obviously going team this year, 69 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:39,000 she joined the did the individual quarterfinals I 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,640 imagine she did it and registered for it to help out 71 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Europe. Now it didn't really matter and 72 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:53,080 so like that morning we started like I started looking at it and 73 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,240 I started talking with Halpin and he started doing some 74 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,840 calculations. John. 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,920 Hey, I'm on a different browser, I'm not on that different 76 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 computer, so if I start tripping out I'll go to my phone, OK? 77 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,400 All right. All right. 78 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,440 Well, thanks for joining. And so he was like I I'm getting 79 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,240 some weird results. Have you done the calculations 80 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,480 yet? And so I started kind of running 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,760 it my way and we got very, very similar answers. 82 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,120 And that's what you saw him post on Instagram yesterday. 83 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,360 And it was basically saying that look South America, Asia, 84 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Oceania would be starting to get an extra spot and we felt pretty 85 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,960 confident about it. But until today we got the final 86 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:41,280 announcement and for sure like there's just one little blip in 87 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:43,000 the in the press release that was sent that look we're 88 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,680 changing it based off of if you compete, you know you're not 89 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,480 even changing. It's like it's just based off of 90 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,080 if you're in the in the semi final or not. 91 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:57,360 And what happens really is you start looking at these top 100. 92 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,280 You know, you go through the top 100 that was and you start 93 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,960 knocking off people like Paige, Powers, Nick, Matthew. 94 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,240 And you start going down the list and you start kind of back 95 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,640 filling with 101102103. And you start realizing that all 96 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,400 of those people who are back filling athletes who like Mal, 97 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:21,040 who aren't competing, like Ellie, who's dropped out, all 98 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,880 the team athletes, all the athletes that didn't qualify, 99 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,800 you start going down the list. Next thing you know, you're in 100 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:31,360 the two hundreds on the worldwide rankings that are now 101 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,480 the 100th person that counts in this list. 102 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,920 And just given how the calculations have worked, like 103 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,600 this shakes everything up. And now it gives the smaller 104 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:50,200 regions a much bigger impact into the season. 105 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:57,680 And so, you know, basically if you start looking at this, you 106 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,880 know, you look at the men, North America East has 11, North 107 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:08,280 America West has nine, Europe gets 10, South America with 108 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:13,720 three, Oceania with four, Asia with two and Africa with one. 109 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,640 On the women's side, American, North America East also get 11, 110 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:26,120 Europe gets 10, North America West down to 8, South America, 111 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Asia both get three, Oceana gets four and Africa gets one. 112 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,640 And so when you look at it side by side from last year to this 113 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,520 year, basically what you see on the men's side is North America, 114 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,320 East and Europe both lose a spot and those go to Oceana and South 115 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,200 America. The women's side, North America 116 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,760 West loses 2, Europe loses one and those go to Oceana, Asia and 117 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:58,400 South America. So it is significant change to 118 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,280 what I was expecting just two days ago. 119 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,000 I think what everybody was and it definitely shakes up what our 120 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:11,400 season is going to look like. John, you saw the news, I'm sure 121 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,360 you saw what happened and put out yesterday we were talking 122 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:19,840 about initial reaction. I think the women are getting 123 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,720 hosed is. I don't think it makes that much 124 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,160 of a difference for the men. It is, and I mean it. 125 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,160 The East, the East, if anything in general. 126 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,080 I think the East in general is getting hosed, men and women. 127 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,799 But the women and the women overall, especially if you look 128 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:42,720 at the men, the people who got the extra spot, is Oceana and 129 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,080 South America correct? Yes. 130 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,520 And South America, like Kaike and Kalyan, they did the games 131 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,360 last year and they were fine. They weren't great, but they 132 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,360 were fine. You know the Kaike's got a 133 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,360 certain like send it way about them that like he can do some 134 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,920 things in some in some events, you know, and then ghee 135 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,600 obviously is a home run hitter through and through. 136 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,200 The extra spot in Oceana on a normal basis would be a good 137 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,920 thing, but they've got an abnormal amount of guys going 138 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,320 team or just not competing in individual. 139 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,280 But if you think about all of those guys, like you know they 140 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,560 have a big three right now with Ricky, Jay and Bailey. 141 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:32,200 And I mean, I think of guys like Roy stun James Newberry back in 142 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,320 the day, but not anymore. Like there's room for those guys 143 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,640 now. Maybe even Jake Douglas kind of 144 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,040 snipes his way in there again. So, like, I don't think it's the 145 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,560 end of the world for the men. Like what I'm saying is like, 146 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:51,240 the guys that end up coming in, they're not that much worse than 147 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,000 the guys that are like that would have gone there from the 148 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,640 East or or Europe, right? The women's completely 149 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,200 different. The women, the P, the girls that 150 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,000 are going to make it now are are irrelevant. 151 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 They were already irrelevant in Asia and South America. 152 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,160 No offense, y'all. You just are like you're not as 153 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,560 good at all. I'll take. 154 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:18,680 Listen, I am not a big Danny Spiegel fan, but I will take 155 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:22,800 Danny Spiegel over third place in South America all day every 156 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,720 day, right? Like like the girls in the West 157 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,120 are down to 8 now. So you're thinking like Bethany 158 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,080 Flores, Kyra Milligan, I mean, Kelsey kill Danny Spiegel like 159 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:39,920 those, that kind of echelon. All of those women are better 160 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,480 than #1 in Asia and South America. 161 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:52,120 By a lot, By a lot. So it's sucky. 162 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:58,160 I I wish they would adapt, adopt to get with the programming way 163 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,600 that they've kind of listed out where it's just quarterfinals in 164 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,840 the open. But I'm pretty sure that, I mean 165 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,040 that's going to show out like the West gets like 6 people, 166 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,000 like it's even worse on their side. 167 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,360 But if you know that going in, people would try much harder in 168 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,600 the Open and quarter finals, and I think it would, I think it 169 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 would bear different placings. Yeah. 170 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Julian Iford, new YouTube member. 171 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Thank you very much. Yeah, I want to get into each of 172 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,120 the regions here in a second. And also you see the phone line 173 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,440 is now open. So if you do have any comments, 174 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,680 want to want to weigh in, feel free to call. 175 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:37,160 We'll answer the phone call and get your thoughts and. 176 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,680 You're looking, and the European women too, they get one less 177 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:42,560 spot when the whole this whole year we've been talking about 178 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,800 how European women are dominating everybody. 179 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,480 And I mean not like the top of the top, but the after the top, 180 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,600 like 20 girls, Europe's got like 50 girls better than everybody 181 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,680 else after the top 20, right? And those girls are getting 182 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:02,280 hosed like the Jackie Dahlstrom's, the Jennifer 183 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,200 Muir's, the Claudia Glucks of the world. 184 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Those girls are getting hosed for John Jung in Asia. 185 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,920 No offense. You are my Asian female 186 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,240 counterpart. I'm rooting for you all the way. 187 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,440 But you know I don't want you to get a pity vote, and that's what 188 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,720 you're getting. And I know it's based on 189 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,360 performance. So how are they getting a pity 190 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,760 vote? They're not. 191 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,560 It's based on performance. Those girls aren't going to be 192 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:33,800 as good. They are trash compared to the 193 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,160 girls that are there. You're taking the spots away. 194 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,440 From They just are. Yeah, I want to. 195 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,200 I want to address this one here. Eduardo Montero. 196 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,680 The rules are being respected. The quarterfinals are setting 197 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:50,000 the spots for semifinals. This is the sport evolution that 198 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,320 we are talking about. All right. 199 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,520 So and that's that kind of leads into the question I wanted to to 200 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:04,240 bring up is up until Baz shared that information on Wednesday, 201 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,360 we didn't even ask him about it. He brought it up. 202 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,160 Nobody knew about this. No. 203 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Athletes, No. Coaches like Oh yeah for I need 204 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,600 to say this cause nobody like. Nobody else knows about it. 205 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:22,480 Like if if they had, if he had not said this like a few hours 206 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,960 ago, we would have been all been shocked at what's going on. 207 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Like what's going on? How are you changing this? 208 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Like like help and Headed would not have done the calculations. 209 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Like we would have been hours behind trying to figure out what 210 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,880 is going on. And like I I hear you like the 211 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,240 rules. The rules are the rules, but 212 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,800 they're brand new to us. We've known this for 48 hours 213 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:54,280 and we have no idea when CrossFit made this decision, I 214 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,680 think. It's better than what they had 215 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,800 though. It is based on the people who 216 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:03,760 are competing and like if the outcome is worse, but I think 217 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,480 it's better than what they were doing and I think you're hung up 218 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:13,480 on the outcome and it is worse, it is worse, but it should be 219 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,680 based on the people competing. Yes, and the thing. 220 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,520 And like if you want to and like like the I honestly, I think 221 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,680 they get with the programming, the way they're doing it, the 222 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,720 way Hoppin wrote it up and like their whole thing. 223 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,680 I think that's the best way. That's the perfect way to do it 224 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,040 when they do their show tomorrow, right? 225 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,160 It's tomorrow or it's Monday. What's that? 226 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,280 When? They do. 227 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Who's going to be who they would have as their the final people 228 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,600 that get in the games? Thought it was tomorrow, but I 229 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,640 could be wrong, OK? Well, when they do it, it is. 230 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,000 I think tomorrow at 12 or something like that. 231 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,760 I'm pretty sure it's going to bear out the same thing that the 232 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,880 games is doing right here, but worse I bet. 233 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,880 I think North America, West girls get like 6 girls and all 234 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,400 of those in Asia gets 3. But where it's a little bit 235 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,240 different and where I think it's way better is that all the girls 236 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,680 that are getting taken away go to Europe. 237 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,960 You know, like it's like the it's like Europe gets like 15 238 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,520 girls, right? And like that's how it should. 239 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,760 But, but they're performing right? 240 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Like when you talk about both men and women in quarterfinals, 241 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,080 they're top 100 in the world, all 40 women. 242 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,400 But what? I'm saying is that's where the 243 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,720 difference is in the outcome. The same amount of women are 244 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,360 getting taken away from these good regions, but it's going to 245 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,000 women who have performed better. And somehow, and I what I'm 246 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,520 saying is the what CrossFit Games is doing, I think is 247 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,240 better than what they had. I don't think people competing 248 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,720 in team or who are retired should count towards your number 249 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,560 of people just because they did good in the past and they took 250 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,160 those people out. I think that's good of them. 251 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,280 The outcome is just worse. And I just think that's 252 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,240 unfortunate. I don't think that's it's hard 253 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,640 to complain about that. I think it's just unfortunate. 254 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,160 It is worse though. Those girls are way worse. 255 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Chris Giles, but they needed to tell people before quarter. 256 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,080 So the one they were informed and two, incentivized, I don't 257 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,440 think, I don't think 2 is correct. 258 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,400 I think everybody was incentivized to do their their 259 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,800 best in quarter finals. I think one is definitely 260 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,520 important. You need to start telling people 261 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,720 before they start competing what they're actually doing. 262 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,800 I just don't think we know how these, how the structure is set 263 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,080 up like right, how many points you get in the opening quarter, 264 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,120 finals and then the semifinals, how that how the different 265 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,640 regions interact because the semifinals, the worldwide points 266 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:41,120 that you've got in the last, you know, two years, like how how 267 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,400 does a third place in South America compare to 13th place in 268 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,600 North America East? So what you're saying is there 269 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,400 should be some type of a multiplier for the better 270 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,760 regions. I I don't know like they did. 271 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,920 They obviously they were different, right? 272 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,520 Like they gave more points to North America East 3rd place 273 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,280 versus South America third place, but we just don't know 274 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:12,359 how that kind of works as athletes shuffle in and out and 275 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,560 things like that. Like the problem with North 276 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,880 America with the big three regions is you have a lot of 277 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,280 turnover, you have a lot more new athletes coming in and you 278 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,760 have a lot of athletes stepping away. 279 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,280 Whereas in some of these developing regions, they're the 280 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,160 same athletes like South America had the same top five. 281 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,120 They're still in quarter finals and individuals, right? 282 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,440 And they're all with the semi finals. 283 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,440 You don't have that in the big three like they're going team 284 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,640 they're somewhere quitting retiring whatever injured and 285 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,240 it's it's mixing this up and and I don't know what this looks 286 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,400 like if they if they don't change it next year. 287 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,880 Do we see even more athletes from the smaller regions 288 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,880 starting to get the restart. Africa was very close like they 289 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,960 needed five people right. You need five people in the top 290 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,160 100 to get an extra spot. Africa had four and their fifth 291 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,880 was like 108th, so they were very close to getting the second 292 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,400 spot, the. Multiplier is not what the 293 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,160 multiplier needs to be more. They they need to figure out how 294 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,840 how that multiplier looks, maybe based off of what your quarter 295 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,560 final performance is or something like that, because 296 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,240 it's all been arbitrary like CrossFit has set this up without 297 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,040 really having enough historical data to make real decisions off 298 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,680 of it. Can you not somewhat just one 299 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,400 for one in the world? Well, the problem is you have 300 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,800 each semifinal. It gets their own points, right? 301 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,040 And so now what? I am. 302 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,360 What I'm saying is you just get points based on your world 303 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,160 times. Yeah, but the but then you have 304 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,680 the magic. Sometimes you get the magic 305 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,200 carpet right. So everybody in, everybody in 306 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,520 Oceana gets way ahead because they have a better for one. 307 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Event. I get it. 308 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,720 But if you start weighing all those out next, you know you 309 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,160 have Oceania way ahead of other regions because they've got they 310 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,880 they're all the top, you know, 40 in the world. 311 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,680 And then you have North America East that's getting hosed and 312 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,920 they're way in the back and they can't make up that ground. 313 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,640 It's a really tough way to to do that. 314 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,560 And now you have the run that's outside. 315 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,920 We can't, we're not going to be able to compare those either 316 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,320 either. You know, more turns, slightly 317 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,720 different distances. Yeah, it's going to be kind of a 318 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,240 mess. Do you think it would be 319 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,800 unprofessional to be like if you if you do not have somebody in 320 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:40,080 the top 30 then you lose a spot? At the games, yeah. 321 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,440 'Cause I think there should be something like that. 322 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,600 Like you can get spots based on your performance in the, you 323 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,320 know, before the games, but ultimately you want the fittest 324 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,480 40 people there. You want diversity, but you want 325 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,960 the fittest 40 people there. You want to mesh the best of 326 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,920 those two worlds, right? Like if you don't have somebody 327 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:08,200 in the top 30, then whatever you got, it's going to be -1 unless 328 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,560 it's and then you can cap it at one or two, right? 329 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:16,080 You can always cap it at 1:00 and then whatever, right? 330 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,680 So if they're at, if they're at like you take Asia for instance, 331 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Asia has three people and then. If they send it and they're all, 332 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,920 you know, 37th, 38th, 39, because that's what they're 333 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,120 going to be. I'll say I could probably 334 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,320 finish. She'll finish in the 20s. 335 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:38,240 She'll be the 37th the like, then you get minus, then you get 336 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,240 -1. So when they're three next year, 337 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,240 it's only two, and then that spot will go to the next person. 338 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,800 I mean, that's something to consider for sure. 339 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:55,200 All right, here we go, caller. Hello. 340 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Hello. Yes, go ahead. 341 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,880 Who? Who we got here? 342 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,880 We got Burton. Burton, welcome to the spin. 343 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,000 Appreciate it. I got a thought. 344 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,120 You're you're debating how to get so many people across the 345 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,840 world. Why don't you treat it like the 346 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Boston Marathon? Have qualifying scores. 347 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,360 You do your quarter final workout. 348 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,080 If you get qualifying scores in the top X of the world, that 349 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000 gets you a spot in two semi finals for your region. 350 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,760 So then you're basing it off of equal scoring in equal setting 351 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,200 in quarter finals. That gets you to X number of 352 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,040 spots, then into the games and semi finals for your region 353 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,240 because you have qualifying scores. 354 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800 You can't do it for semi finals because there's different 355 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,280 venues, different magic carpets, etcetera. 356 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,200 But if you're doing it at quarter finals, everyone set up 357 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,400 the same everyone. Video standards judged should 358 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,280 be. And then you base it off of that 359 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,400 to make it as fair as you can. Because doing this magic formula 360 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,880 isn't fair to anybody because how does it apply? 361 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,440 But if you have qualifying scores, you get it, then go 362 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,240 ahead and get your spots for your region and incentivize you. 363 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,640 It's easy. Major marathons do it and 364 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,720 everybody wants in and it it manages to work. 365 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960 I think the difference though is when you run a marathon, 366 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,560 everybody's running 26.2 miles and everybody is not doing the 367 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,480 same. I don't think you can do that 368 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,840 online. I'm against that online I. 369 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,840 Mean Could you do? That at a semi finals then like 370 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,720 the semi finals are tough and you can't make it the same. 371 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,920 It sounds a lot like what Chase doesn't get, what the 372 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,880 programming system is right? Like it's based off of current 373 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,240 year performance at the quarter finals and that? 374 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,640 Way you get European, like did European women get rewarded 375 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,400 because they have those qualifying scores that are so 376 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,440 deep they didn't knock out some of those non qualifying scores? 377 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,080 Thank you, Burton. And how? 378 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,880 Would you? OK. 379 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,360 Is this your mind? Nope, Nope. 380 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:58,720 I just go ahead. I mean Burton's. 381 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,160 Burton's idea in the. Qualifying scores, then? 382 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,400 Well I I think it, I think it I don't want to say qualifying 383 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,960 scores. I think it's more of how do you 384 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,840 do in quarterfinals determines how many. 385 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:14,160 I mean I think it goes straight to what Chase is saying is look 386 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000 at current year performance on how you do it. 387 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Quarterfinals take the top 100 in the world right your your the 388 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,680 the quarterfinals worldwide leaderboard. 389 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,320 That's your top 100 now due to haunt based off of that like 390 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,600 obviously Chase. Chase adds the Chase adds the 391 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,360 Open as a third score and he has two in the quarterfinals. 392 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,680 What if we just look at the quarterfinals? 393 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,720 I mean it's a similar very. I like using the. 394 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,360 Open to make it matter then. Because then the open does 395 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:42,760 matter. And I get it, it the 396 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,680 programming's wildly different. It's it's cardio city. 397 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Europe loves it. Go Europe. 398 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,920 But I I, I like the Open being in it too, because that way the 399 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,960 best of the best are trying their hardest. 400 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,880 And like we don't have that right now. 401 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,080 I think the only way we have that is if Taylor dies and if 402 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,160 we're like, hey, watch us kill Taylor over and over again, 403 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,280 those people try their hardest. But everybody else, like, it's 404 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,680 kind of like there's no incentivization unless you're 405 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760 gone and unless you're trying to win. 406 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:23,120 Yeah, I I mean, again, Chase's. Chase's system shows it and is 407 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:30,080 really drives home who is doing the best this current year and 408 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,880 mentally is confused. Is it based off athlete 409 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,000 performance this season, or is it athlete performance in 410 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,280 previous seasons dictating this year's allocation? 411 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:47,080 It's actually two years of data. So it's actually starts in 2022 412 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,680 semifinals, the 22 games, all of the 23 season and then this 413 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,160 year's open in quarter finals accumulate points based off of 414 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,880 that and then you go find the top 100 who are registered for 415 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,720 individual semi finals now. So it's a little bit of both, 416 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,840 but it's heavily weighted on prior years. 417 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:20,040 And so again, oh, here we go, Hiller, hold up, weren't we 418 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,040 complain last year that it was impossible for the smaller 419 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,680 countries to ever get more spots? 420 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,120 So whatever then. Now they have more spots. 421 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Good. Go ahead, Brian, I. 422 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,880 Think you do have a problem than I do. 423 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,160 It was only a problem for Africa. 424 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:44,080 The other regions had it. I think this, I don't think the 425 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,280 system. I'll answer that here in a 426 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:53,400 second. Here we go, caller go. 427 00:25:53,400 --> 00:26:03,240 Ahead caller. Stan, Yes. 428 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,120 Are you guys on the semi finals or what? 429 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,160 You keep ignoring me in the chat and it's kind of hurting me. 430 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,840 I feel sad. Who we got here? 431 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,560 What? You don't have my numbers here, 432 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,240 he. Said, he said. 433 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Are you going to semi finals? Oh, I am not. 434 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,760 I will not be. Yeah, are. 435 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,120 You in the semi finals I. Will not be at semi finals. 436 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,480 Rather not. You, John. 437 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,640 No, Sir. Not that I cared. 438 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,920 Oh, what? What's the hurt of me? 439 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Nick. Wow, I'm sitting. 440 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,480 I'm sitting. No, we will not be at and I 441 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,360 have. No opinion about the semi final 442 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,120 spots, I'm sorry. Or the the game spots. 443 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,440 I'm I'm a meme page. I'm not. 444 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,720 I don't have smarts like that. I leave that up to to you guys. 445 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720 So you're OK with Asia getting 3? 446 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,880 No, but no. I. 447 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,720 Mean. Just because you do have a 448 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,000 mobside. Team, Does that mean? 449 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Well, yeah, but it's not. I mean, it's just based off of 450 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,240 nothing, really. I mean it. 451 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,040 You know Jamaica, Do they have a bobside team? 452 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,360 Should they go to the Olympics every year just just cause, just 453 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,600 'cause they have one or or should we get the the best 454 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,760 bobsled teams to the Olympics? Probably get the best if. 455 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,840 You told me, I don't know, Classic movie was going to come 456 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240 out about that third Asian Crossfitter. 457 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,520 I'd be for it. I mean, there you go. 458 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,200 There you go. Then I'll be invested. 459 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,720 I'll change my mind. The the Olympics don't even have 460 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,600 the best athletes, right? Like that's why you have a 461 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,000 Jamaican. Bobsled team there. 462 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,560 Right, Like it gets the. Olympics, The best athletes and 463 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,080 every weight lifter would be Chinese. 464 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,920 They had to limit it because the Chinese had the best lifters in 465 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,640 the world and they only could have told them that you can only 466 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,080 send 4. Right. 467 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Yeah. So, but, but at the end of the 468 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,920 day, you still. Yeah. 469 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,320 But I guess. You still get the podium, right 470 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320 I. I guess my question my my 471 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760 question is is like why? Why do we have to be inclusive 472 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,440 to the other countries? Is is it to grow CrossFit or is 473 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,960 it? But what's the reason other than 474 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,360 just being for the sake of being inclusive, 'cause if it's to 475 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:17,080 grow CrossFit, then I I don't agree with that, 'cause you know 476 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,160 the the CrossFit will grow on its own, naturally. 477 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,640 If if they know what they're doing with it, you don't use the 478 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240 game spots. You know, I I don't. 479 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,480 You know, you don't use the game spots to grow CrossFit, I don't 480 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960 think. I I mean, I I think you have to 481 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,040 host each region, right? Like you got to have something 482 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,720 there to give people access to get to it. 483 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,400 I just think it needs to be more performance based. 484 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,960 And I just I I think this system that they have implemented does 485 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 not. We don't have, we don't know how 486 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,360 it interacts and how it will be an iteration year after year and 487 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,920 then you change it. Yeah. 488 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:02,880 How it's not performance based. Yeah, because they've set up 489 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,000 arbitrary points. They've set up arbitrary points 490 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,480 for semi finals, right. Like we talked about it earlier, 491 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,320 like, why does North America East 3rd place get so many 492 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320 points versus Asia's third place? 493 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,080 So it's. An invalid amount of points. 494 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,560 If you get 15th in North America East, you should get the same 495 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,120 amount of points as third place and we. 496 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Just don't. We just don't know how how it 497 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,760 works. And now we're starting to see 498 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:33,080 when you change it to only the athletes who are we don't, we 499 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,680 don't have enough scenarios to be able to run right. 500 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Like you need multiple years of this to be able to see like, 501 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440 hey, the point system that we have implemented is going to 502 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040 work. They ran it off of two years, 503 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,240 made the system realize probably that zero regions are ever going 504 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,680 to get something else. Let's change it. 505 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,120 And then all all these small regions start getting it. 506 00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:01,760 And for anybody to argue that Europe is in the like Europe 507 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,240 should not get an extra spot is crazy that. 508 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,400 Europe, Europe should lose a spot to Asia. 509 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Right. I think it's. 510 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,880 More. Yeah, and that's really where it 511 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,760 gets the crux of it. Yeah. 512 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880 And I and I know you guys are more savvy with the numbers and 513 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,640 everything, but like it, like you said, if you know this is, 514 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,320 you know, if they're going to change it every year, then then 515 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,600 none of this is ever going to work. 516 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200 But like you said if in a couple years this might pan out 517 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,680 differently but the the problem is a consistency and nobody 518 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,720 knows how it works. And and I don't know like and I, 519 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,520 and I'm not you know, smart with the numbers or anything, but I 520 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,600 know like a lot of you guys are and it's just kind of funny how 521 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160 some guy in their spare time can come up with a better system 522 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,080 than what they have and and kind of be consistent with it. 523 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,960 And. It is just frustrating. 524 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,120 I think it's. Hard to beat that man and. 525 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Well, not even department. You know even even Tyler Barclay 526 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,200 help and all those guys they they all you know and I'm sure 527 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,560 spin you could even come up with something themselves and it's 528 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640 just like you guys are doing it in their spare time as a as a 529 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,360 side gig coming up with better systems than whoever at CrossFit 530 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,920 is putting something together. I I don't know who, but it it's 531 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,160 just it's funny. Yeah, yeah, Thanks Nick. 532 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,720 And no, we will not. Well, we will not be at semi 533 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,960 finals, but we'll try not to ignore. 534 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Yeah, well that sucks. Maybe next year. 535 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,680 All right. Thanks, Dave. 536 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760 Ldy. So we lose Danny Spiegel to an 537 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,600 Asian girl. It's. 538 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400 Possible, but it could be my Asian counterpart. 539 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Just saying to answer, I want to go back to Hitler's question 540 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,480 because we didn't answer it. I think the reason why Brian is 541 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:56,080 up in arms is because it's not the way they currently did it. 542 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,760 He don't. He does not think that the 543 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,120 people earned those spots that they currently have. 544 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,880 And so if if I keep saying her name and I'm sorry, girl, if you 545 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,080 listen to the podcast and you are a fan, I'm sorry we keep 546 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,920 bringing you at the expense of this. 547 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:22,880 But if Dejuan Jung, like if Truly is truly bet better than 548 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Danny Spiegel, then she's deserving of that spot and she 549 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,840 should go. Brian is saying the next 10 550 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,080 girls after Danny Spiegel are better than Juan Jung. 551 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,840 And honestly, probably the next 20. 552 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240 Same for the East. Same for the girls in Europe. 553 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Sarah Sigmund's daughter would run rough shot on Dejuan Jung. 554 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 All right, who's the 3rd girl you want to throw in South 555 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,560 America? Seung Joan Choi, That's. 556 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,440 That's Asia, South America. And where South America? 557 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,720 South America. Amanda Fusima. 558 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800 Fusima. Yeah, you don't know who Amanda 559 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Fusima is. No, Amanda Fusima gets in 560 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,840 Hiller. It's not. 561 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,400 She didn't earn it. It's just some weird the way the 562 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,200 equation works. She gets in and that girl is not 563 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,280 better than whoever you want to throw in Europe or the Europe or 564 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,480 the East or the West. Because E lost 1, E lost 1, W 565 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200 lost two and Europe lost one, right? 566 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Yes. One went to Oceana. 567 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880 I don't think we can. I don't think we have a problem 568 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,960 with that. On the men's side, yes, Women's 569 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800 side this year, no. Well. 570 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,600 It's not always like that, man. We usually have Ellie Turner 571 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,160 over there, but. Even even with Ellie, I'm not 572 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,440 sure the women justified. I mean the men 4th place Oceana 573 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,640 for the men. Peter Ellis. 574 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,360 Zach Martin. Yeah, I mean Zach Thomas. 575 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320 Jack Thomas, sorry. We just don't know how they're 576 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,320 gonna do like I I think I'm a little bit more OK with that 577 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,720 just because of how strong the top three Oceano men are and to 578 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,880 get you know like it's it you you as a as that next tier you 579 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,320 don't have a chance right because those guys are so good. 580 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,920 We don't have that in in Asia and or or. 581 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,360 South America, right? And and my whole point when I 582 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,360 was talking about Africa last year of not being able to get an 583 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,440 extra spot, it was like what if we have two Matt Frazier's in 584 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,080 Africa, the second one would never get an opportunity to do 585 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,320 it. There's zero chance to get 586 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880 there. We need a better system where 587 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,840 they can get it. And I think you hit the, you hit 588 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,360 it right is that I don't think at this point those regions, all 589 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,600 these people. Aren't earning it. 590 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,679 They're not deserving it. They're not better than the 591 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,760 people that are going to not be able to go. 592 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,960 And if they were, then spin's all for it. 593 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,280 Right, 100% but. They're not. 594 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,880 And I mean, and it's going to make for a worse games, a more 595 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,280 diverse games, but the last five spots are all going to be from 596 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,960 Asia and South America. Right. 597 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:07,560 Bet money. So I want to go back to your 598 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,400 picks, John. Yeah, let's see who doesn't get 599 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,000 in and who does. Right. 600 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:22,480 Give me a second here. Guess who's getting in? 601 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:32,400 Duon, John. All right, Europe loses one. 602 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,800 Oh no, Luca. Luca, Luca's out. 603 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,480 Oh. No. 604 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,560 And then on the West to the. Magda, I want to take annual, 605 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:47,040 annual Akai out and then just put Luca where he's at and then 606 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,760 Tudor's fine, You can take Tudor out. 607 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,440 Is that right? There's. 608 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:59,200 Let me see. Chris, why do you hate Hadi 609 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,720 Kanyo? Maybe she's the next thing 610 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,520 coming, huh? Yeah, so the the men. 611 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,560 Oh, so no. Tudor's still good Kiefer. 612 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,200 Kiefer agrees with me. See, I said. 613 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,320 I'm moving them up. Kiefer, I hope you took note. 614 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,120 Always try to put words in my mouth. 615 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:18,160 So it's only the North, America, East and Europe men are out. 616 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,760 So Luke is out. And Luke Parker, Luke Parker. 617 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,400 Luke Parker. Luke Parker. 618 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,040 That's right, you sounded. So Asian, Asian, we've. 619 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,960 Been talking about the one junk young so long, Luke. 620 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:42,200 Parker. Luke Parker, He is out. 621 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,400 All right. And you're. 622 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,040 Going to You're going to give it to some somebody in. 623 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,520 You're going to give it to who in South America? 624 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Kayake Kalyan. I think Kalyan Sousa. 625 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,400 And then in Oceana you got Peter Ellis, Zach Thomas, I. 626 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200 Think I I want to give it to Zach Thomas? 627 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,400 I think so. I think it's Zach Thomas, Yeah. 628 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:13,920 There is Luke Paca. So yeah, I mean, that's that's a 629 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,040 tough one. So, but again, I do not and not 630 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,200 Luka Dukic. And I'm going to, I'm going to 631 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,480 substitute annual Akai and and Luka Dukic. 632 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,400 Yeah, one of those guys. Yeah, I think, I think the men 633 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,920 again, the regions aren't that different, right? 634 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,400 Like I trade Luka in for Kaike, or Kalyan trade Luka Paca for 635 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,360 Lukapaka for Zach Thomas. Yeah, probably. 636 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,360 Giving up a little bit on that, but not, I would say the 637 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,800 difficulty to get into Oceania's top three is way harder than 638 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,240 North America East. So have you. 639 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:55,520 Seen Kaike serve any like if it's Kaike Kaike's basically 640 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,760 Spanish Luke Parker. Like they look very similar 641 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,880 their body types. Not as an athlete. 642 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,680 I'm just saying they look, they look similar. 643 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Maybe Ding Dong. Let's see, let's hear it. 644 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,200 Caller, welcome to the spin. I just want to see if this 645 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,360 number still work. Sure does. 646 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120 You guys look good. Who we got here? 647 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,280 John, John, you got to tell me. What's up? 648 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Does Yolo folo make it? Does our girl make it in? 649 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:37,280 I think, I think I need to know, John. 650 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,640 I think Yolo Folo makes it. The East loses one she she's got 651 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,000 room to spare. Man. 652 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,640 Shelby Neal's on the cut line. Yolo Foley. 653 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,640 It's All I. Wanted to call a. 654 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640 Last minute send on the bike for sure. 655 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,520 Good. All right, that's all. 656 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,560 I was hanging on by a thread. I needed to know if our girl 657 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,320 Erica. Polo's going to make it in Yolo 658 00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,920 polo. That's. 659 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:01,800 The one that tests the number, You guys look good. 660 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,960 Appreciate it. Thank you all. 661 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,680 Right boys. See ya is. 662 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,160 That. Is it Chase? 663 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,160 What's that was? That chase. 664 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,640 I don't think so. He sounds way different. 665 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,600 Oh. Man, I think it is Chase. 666 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,480 Is it? I think so. 667 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,520 You weren't picking up on it. That's why I'm asking you it. 668 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,800 Was Chase the phone? The phone quality isn't is does 669 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,920 it? Does it bring out it? 670 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,960 Does change the voice a little bit for sure. 671 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,120 For sure. So North America East does not 672 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,400 lose a spot, John. So full O is in good shape. 673 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,520 So going to the women, Europe lose 1 and North America West 674 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,080 lose too. So Kelsey Girl, Kelsey and 675 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,760 Bethany are out and 3rd are out and then you're going to go add 676 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,600 in Dejuan Young somebody out there in Oceana. 677 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000 Julia Hannaford, Julia. Hannaford in Oceana and South 678 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,960 America. I don't think you think you can 679 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:04,040 name the third the 4th person. They don't get four, do they? 680 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:10,840 They just get 3. Oh no, really. 681 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,640 Get three. Yeah. 682 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,720 Yeah, that's right. That was my projection. 683 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:14,960 I put. I already put that in there. 684 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,160 So Oceana 4 Asia Three I'm. So bummed out. 685 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,680 I'm going to have to change that again. 686 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,800 Kelsey's my girl. All right, you get, you get it. 687 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,800 Chris, we're taking Hattie Conyo out. 688 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,200 He's out. We're taking out. 689 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960 A car. Y'all look else to kill up 690 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,600 there. I like how I've changed them so 691 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,120 quick, just by who I want to make it sometimes. 692 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,840 Oh, wait, so these are 9. This is 9. 693 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680 So Bethany Flores is out. Oh yeah, so now we're good. 694 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,160 Now we're good. But Kelsey? 695 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,880 Kelsey stays in. Last minute send on the bike. 696 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,280 Good. Don't do my girl Hattie like 697 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,280 that. You're good Hattie. 698 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,960 I'm just messing. I would we're. 699 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,320 Actually going to lose 1 from North America East 'cause I had 700 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,800 12 in there, so Annika is gone. Last person out again. 701 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,040 She's out. She. 702 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,720 She misses by one again. So we're missing. 703 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,480 We're losing Annika Greer, Bethany Flores and Turi Helga. 704 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:11,360 Daughter 2 Juan Jung, Julia Hannaford and Julie and Julia 705 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,120 Kado no. We're just, we're just losing 2. 706 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560 We're just losing Bethany and Annika and we're going to throw 707 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,040 two and I thought we'd lose. One in Europe. 708 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,640 No, we we got the Europe, OK. OK. 709 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,360 They get safe, they keep it 10, so Asia Oceana get theirs. 710 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,400 So we're going to take Bethany out, we're going to throw in 711 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,600 Dejuan Young and we're going to take Annika out and we're going 712 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:39,640 to throw in Julia Hannaford. If Dejuan Young makes it, does 713 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120 chase accidentally, say John Young Don. 714 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,840 Kong. It's. 715 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,680 Week 1 so it it. Would make my day. 716 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,440 Yeah, the The CrossFit Podcast is going to be amazing on Friday 717 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,840 when Dejuan Young goes and crushes the run and makes all 718 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,680 the highlights out in Asia. John Young's been working on his 719 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,480 running. I see. 720 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:12,000 She crushes it. I mean, when you think about 721 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,480 those, those substitutions, Bethany for Dejuan, Annika for 722 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,680 Hannaford, like the men, we didn't think it was that big of 723 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,080 a deal. Do you think about the same for 724 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,880 the men? The women you mean for the? 725 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,320 Women, yeah. No, I think it's a huge deal for 726 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:33,960 the women. Annika and Bethany are miles 727 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,680 above Dejuan Young. Maybe not. 728 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,360 Maybe not. Julie, I think they're better 729 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640 than Julia Hannaford. But Julia Hannaford's got some 730 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,360 home runs. She's a little bit kind of like 731 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,200 Anika grew a little bit like she flourishes in gymnastics. 732 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,400 She's kind of a short. She's short and stocky, right? 733 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,880 But Ionica's still a better athlete than her. 734 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,280 But not by a ton. But Bethany Flores is miles 735 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,800 above both of those girls. And it's going to. 736 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,680 Be if Bethany had a good back, she'd be top four. 737 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,880 Top five. Yeah, Yeah. 738 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,240 She'd be top 15 at the games. Wait, and you don't even say 739 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:12,680 Bethany? I guess Bethany's just a girl 740 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,960 that I have up there. You can say Olivia Kurstetter. 741 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,320 Danny Spiegel. You know what I mean? 742 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,280 This makes it really tough for Kurstetter. 743 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:22,840 Dan Spiegel, Dan. Spiegel like you can like you 744 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,880 throw. Let's say Kelsey kills the one 745 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,000 out like all of those girls. Kyra Milligan. 746 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560 Howdy Konyo. I think after that you're pretty 747 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,720 safe. I think for the West, you have 748 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:36,640 the top four, and I think those girls are just going to be fine. 749 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,400 Home runs and not home runs, but you're going to be fine after 750 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,800 that. It's a rough shot of who 751 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,040 executes the best, and I think all of those people are better 752 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,960 than Duon Jung and honestly, Julia Hannaford. 753 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,320 I'm not as mad about the Julia Hannaford piece because she 754 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,880 will, she will make, she will be relevant at the games. 755 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,800 It's in some events and that's all that I want. 756 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,960 I want somebody, if you're in the last places or you're like 757 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,520 not as fit as the other people, I want you to have some type of 758 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,760 a home run ability that you're going to make noise in a couple 759 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,680 events and then you're just not as fit on the others. 760 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,680 So Seema cannons. So is Chase going to save the 761 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,680 day again and stream Friday? I don't. 762 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,760 It's a. Great question. 763 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,720 It's a very good question. After the yesterday's press 764 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:31,480 release from CrossFit came out about the live stream and Friday 765 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,160 being on the CrossFit Games podcast hosted by Chase in week 766 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,800 one, Adrian will take over in weeks two and three. 767 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,320 It was very unclear. It said recaps and highlights, 768 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:45,840 but it also sounded like they would have a whole bunch of 769 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,680 guests on to join Chase and Adrian. 770 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,040 I asked CrossFit for clarification on it. 771 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,760 Like what? What does that actually mean? 772 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,640 Like, are they going to be live streaming the final heat of each 773 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,040 team and an individual, or they're just live streaming the 774 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,480 whole thing, just, you know, on on the Games podcast, kind of 775 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,720 like it was last year? I don't know yet, Chase. 776 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,880 Gave a little emoji, guy. Yeah, I mean, it was so, I mean 777 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,240 to this, it looks like he'll be streaming something. 778 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,880 I just don't know if it's just Chase and then some guests 779 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,320 joining Chase. I would not want to be him 780 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,640 freaking. Running event. 781 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,640 Yeah, you're gonna be on a 30 minute, 30 minute by yourself. 782 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,440 Guys go out, run for 3-4 minutes, nothing to talk about. 783 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,800 Then they come in for a minute. Yeah, but you know, he'll be 784 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520 streaming it to one of our podcasts. 785 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,200 It'll be just me shooting like with with whoever, you know, 786 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,480 I'll just be talking like I do. Yeah, but and then and then 787 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,440 guys, and then guys will come in and start lifting weights and 788 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,520 then I'll be like, yeah, when I did this, I was that fast, but I 789 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,400 wasn't fast on the run. You know, it'll be stuff to talk 790 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,520 about. I just if it's just up to chase 791 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,960 and it starts at 9:00 AM and it goes till five, like that's a 792 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,200 long day for one person, right. So like even if you're only 793 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,520 doing the final heat like you're jumping on and off the whole 794 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,400 time, I don't know how it's going to flow. 795 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,400 I don't know what we can expect we'll get some type of coverage. 796 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,600 I just, you know, I think everybody kind of expected all 797 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,000 of the regions to stream, but the all, all four, all three 798 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:32,760 days. Do you think on Friday we talk 799 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,040 about, you know, the run with Danny Spiegel, Olivia 800 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,480 Kurstetter. I'll throw Kelsey Keel in there. 801 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040 Kyra's not the best runner. Has she been trotting? 802 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,560 I'm sure, Kelsey, I'm sure, Olivia, I'm sure they've all 803 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,400 been trotting trying to get better. 804 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,400 Do we do. We think we will know whether 805 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,560 there any of them are just out of the picture at the end of 806 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,360 event one date on Friday. No, you can always make up 807 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,480 Crown. I think. 808 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,560 What's the? Worst. 809 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,920 What's the worst? Place, it's pretty rough, but I 810 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,360 think if there were more, if it was the east, I would say 100%, 811 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,640 but it's not the East. So like, I think you can just 812 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,840 count the force the top four spots, just count them out, OK 813 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320 And then it's anybody's game for the next. 814 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,840 Was it 3 I? Would say 3. 815 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,200 I'd say Alex, Eric 5. Five, Yeah, yeah, the top five. 816 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,760 Yeah, fusole. I'm not sure. 817 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,040 I'd say that's a lock. Just wait for the legless rope 818 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,960 climb work out and that's all you need to know. 819 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,240 All right, all right. The I've and fusole is not the 820 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,160 best runner either. But I I think she just, I think 821 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,200 she'll have home runs though where she'll be. 822 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,920 She's fit enough, I think, versus these other girls is what 823 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,440 I'm saying. I think after the top five, 824 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,440 though, it's the those four spots are up for anybody. 825 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040 And a lot of those people fighting for those four spots 826 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:04,840 are not good runners, right? Like you just named them all and 827 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,640 they're all fighting for those spots. 828 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,360 If they all finished poorly, they're going to be better than 829 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,800 the rest of the field, right? So you don't think there's 830 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,320 anybody else in the North America West that takes 831 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,800 advantage tell? Me, who exactly? 832 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,520 Well, let's go. Let's go look at the field real 833 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:30,880 quick. Look at the Quarter Finals 834 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,640 leaderboard. Like, it's kind of funny that 835 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:39,640 there's a lot of poor runners in this region that are that are 836 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,080 very, very fit. So the top five are your top 837 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:50,160 five Hattie is 6th Gabrielle spenced Devon Kim Tell. 838 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,360 Me about those Gross. Devin Kim was on the the 839 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840 Invictus team that won, but her back is basically broken. 840 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,520 She did squat cleans for the heavy squat cleans for the first 841 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,640 time and I don't know how long a couple days ago. 842 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,200 So she did well in quarterfinals, but she got to 843 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,240 show that she can move heaviest, moderate weight there is. 844 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,280 What? OK, I guess what I'm saying is 845 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,440 there. Sydney Michelachan. 846 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,920 Yeah, Sydney Michelachan can make some noise, but like, she's 847 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,880 kind of an even keel person, you know what I mean? 848 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,120 Where she'll just get like 7th and a whole bunch of things but. 849 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,080 Emily White She did well last year. 850 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,160 She was. Close last year. 851 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,840 No, no. It's a different year. 852 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,120 I don't know. The none of these girls just 853 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,360 stand out as like, yeah, they're, they could take 854 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,640 advantage of this and then they're going to beat the other. 855 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,240 They're going to stay ahead of the other girls, like everybody 856 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,920 that you just showed me are going to be equally as bad on 857 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,560 the snatch ladder. So like what kind of what I'm 858 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,000 thinking is like the really poor runners, as long as they're not 859 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,760 last, like if they get 30 out of 40, they can make up everything 860 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,000 on that snatch, workout, everything. 861 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,360 And then I think we'll have a good idea after event two, like 862 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,080 after event two, if you're, I think you can call, hey, people 863 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,280 are going to be out, you know what I'm saying? 864 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,960 Because event two is all legs. Andrea did not accept her 865 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,400 invite, so she. Is out. 866 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,960 Trista Trista's not there yet, I don't think. 867 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:34,840 There we go, Barkley, Dale. What sucks is that the receding 868 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,240 after one event so that the earlier so they'll be in the 869 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:43,440 earlier heats when their fitness puts them in later heats so. 870 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,680 That that second day though what workouts we have, we have 871 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,600 workout two workout. Three toes the bar, front 872 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000 squats, and then you have What's the rope climb? 873 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,880 Rope climb, yeah. And then that's it. 874 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,880 Yeah, you have 456 in the next day the. 875 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,560 Last day. OK. 876 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,800 So. So they'll they'll reseed after 877 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,480 the first event for Saturday. You'll do the two events on 878 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,800 Saturday, Sunday, you'll do 2 events, 4:00 and 5:00, and then 879 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,640 they'll reseed for that last one again. 880 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:19,040 That's fun. So yeah, Kenneth, the lab, 881 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,760 Devin, my back hurts too much through teams, but I'll do 882 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,360 individuals. Kim, I honestly and like and 883 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,160 like that that was a, that was an Invictus decision. 884 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,800 I don't think that was Devin's decision. 885 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,040 Like CJ makes the decisions over there, but that's a machine over 886 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,320 there for teams. She's still on the team, she 887 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,160 just moved to the alternate, but they. 888 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,440 They don't. Say that here's your team. 889 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,680 Go for it like CJ. Martin is in charge. 890 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,320 They make the team decisions. You're kind of at the mercy of 891 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,600 that at times. I'm going to say here's why I'm 892 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,040 so. Down on Devon Kim, and I know a 893 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,720 lot of people are high on Devon Kim. 894 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,520 I know a lot of people think she's going to do really good, 895 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,040 though. Like, Brian's not the only one 896 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,560 that's high on Devon Kim. He might be the highest but but 897 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,360 a lot of people think she's going to make it. 898 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,120 But my thing about her, I think. 95% of the people. 899 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560 Who do team is because they're not good enough to do individual 900 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,560 and they know and they know it and then so they'll take a 901 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,440 running individual and I've never seen her in an individual 902 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:26,280 competition be good like be be like as good as these other 903 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,960 girls right. I don't like you don't like. 904 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,840 No, Kyra's not going to rogue and lighten up the world. 905 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,440 But Kyra had a couple of victory. 906 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,640 Like who the freak is this little girl doing stuff? 907 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,960 Like, you know what I mean? Like then I've never seen that 908 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,240 from Devin Kim once. You can tell me about your 909 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,720 training all you want. You can tell me about your team 910 00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:45,760 all you want. I'm glad that you won. 911 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,760 You're great. But until you can show me an 912 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,160 individual that you're something which I know I got had to Kanye 913 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,200 win. And she ain't showing nothing 914 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,200 either. But I I it's almost like a 915 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,040 vendetta then, right? If people are high on this girl, 916 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,800 I've never seen it. So I am low on her and I'm all 917 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,920 and that's how I'm going to remain until she shows me that 918 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,960 she's can do something. Yeah, it's a it. 919 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,080 It's a much different atmosphere, lot different 920 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,320 competition. When you're out there on your 921 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,480 own, having to fight for it versus being something bad 922 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,880 happens, right? How you can. 923 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,840 Recover from it. Can you send it when you need to 924 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,760 send it? It's just you can you send it on 925 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,200 the bite or you know, I'm not just saying the last event, but 926 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,880 like it's wildly different. Some people come clutch and some 927 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,640 people don't. And I I do think the Barclays. 928 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,400 Point after a first event like the final heat on Day 2 on 929 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,720 Saturday, is going to be interesting, like it may not. 930 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,120 Be the top ten that you. Definitely won't be the top ten 931 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,920 that you see. At the end of the day, I think 932 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,920 you're going to see some of those. 933 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,640 Athletes that can. Run really fast. 934 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,080 Get a sneak in there above Kerstetter, Danny Spiegel. 935 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,000 Some of those stronger athletes who will then make their way 936 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,160 back and fight their way up the rest of the time. 937 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,000 So for the record, with Kerstetter, people, people are. 938 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,320 Asking about Kerstetter. I want her to make it. 939 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,840 I've just been really down on her ever since I saw her at 940 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,240 Waterpalooza. At Waterpalooza she was, she was 941 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:27,960 bad straight up and that wasn't that long ago and so like. 942 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,720 Maybe maybe. She's much better and and she 943 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,720 kills it. She'll be great in the snatch 944 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,640 clatter, you know, awesome. I think she'll do OK in event 945 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,760 two. I think rope climbs might be 946 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,440 tough. Well, yeah, event one and event 947 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,880 three I think. Might be tough, but I just have 948 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,840 been down in her since Water Palooza and that's all I'm going 949 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,000 to say. I I couldn't put. 950 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,360 I couldn't put her to make it because I was so down on her at 951 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,840 Water Palooza. Yeah, John. 952 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,840 No, we're not going. Sorry. 953 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,200 Listen, I'm going to go to the games and. 954 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,040 That's the only thing I'm going to. 955 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:09,080 I'm not sure I'll even do that. Well, yeah, spin can take care 956 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,920 of me. Spin, Spin can't get me to the 957 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,600 games and I won't be going to the games, but I'll, I'll do 958 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,240 what I can. Hopefully, Hopefully. 959 00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,040 That all works out. I got. 960 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,280 To run here. Jake Felton is wataplu is a good 961 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,120 indicator that's still being that it's still offseason for 962 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,520 elites. It's OK if you do great. 963 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,880 In it, it's not an indicator that you're going to do great at 964 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,160 the games, but like if you're really bad in it. 965 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,640 I would argue that offseason competitions are a good 966 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,960 indicator if you do very poor. If you do good in them, you know 967 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,960 you're a little bit more piqued than everybody else or you're 968 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,720 like so many scenarios can go into somebody being better than 969 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:53,120 somebody at the top. But if you are poor compared to 970 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,640 everybody else, then compared to where we think you should be, 971 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,920 then you know I. Think I think it's more of an 972 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,800 indicator. Of poor performances than good 973 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,000 performances in offseason competitions. 974 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,840 Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on that, but I that's just how I feel. 975 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,840 I mean, you look at Paige last year. 976 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,720 She goes and wins water. Palooza goes and moves up to the 977 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,000 board. Finishes 10th right? 978 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,800 Like you can get You can see trends but it's not the end all 979 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:24,600 be all right Like Luke Parker did terrible I think both years 980 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,520 right? And he did fine last year at the 981 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,600 games he made, made the games the first time, so he was like 982 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,080 27th or something like that did. Did fine. 983 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,240 Yeah, and so. And I think he was a little 984 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:38,800 dinged up, if you watch Hiller's video from last year. 985 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,600 So is it exactly the the best? No, But watch this year, we'll 986 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,440 see how Jack Farlow does like he had a great wadapalooza. 987 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,800 Jack Parlow, yeah, Jack Parlow. So I think it shows that they 988 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,440 have potential, like they they're starting to put some 989 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,920 stuff together and of course you have to do the same when it 990 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,640 comes to semi finals in the games and injuries. 991 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,320 Can't clarify really quick with Barkley. 992 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,840 It's it's making me mad. When it when it comes to like 993 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,680 the top of the top. OK, Velner B Adler at Rogue. 994 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,600 Velner's not going to beat Adler at the games, That's what I'm 995 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,160 saying. Where it doesn't, it doesn't. 996 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,560 It's not a good predictor as far as like the top positions, which 997 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,120 if you do good, you're talking about the top positions, right? 998 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,320 Like Roman was kind of bad at Rogue. 999 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,120 Roman's going to be awesome at the games and he wasn't great at 1000 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,640 Wadapaloozo and he right. He wasn't great at Wadapaloozo 1001 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,960 War Rogue, and he's. Going to be awesome at the games 1002 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:43,680 top two, at least top three like like without. 1003 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:49,840 A doubt, I would bet. $1000 on it and he and he might win, you 1004 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,000 know. That's, that's what I'm saying. 1005 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,840 The top of the top If Gabby Macawa beats Laurel Horvath in 1006 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,920 Dubai CrossFit Championships, guess what? 1007 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,280 She's not going to beat her at the games. 1008 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,160 It's not a good predictor. That's what I'm talking about. 1009 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,600 Well. But I do think it's. 1010 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,120 A good predictor if you do poor at the. 1011 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,280 Games. If you do pour those offseason 1012 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,680 things, at least it's something that I'm going to look at. 1013 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,560 Well, John, thanks for jumping on. 1014 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,720 On. Your Friday night last minute 1015 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,920 notice computer made it all the way through with no issues. 1016 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,880 Of course, I didn't even need this new computer, no. 1017 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,080 But thank you. Thank you for the new computer. 1018 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,080 Sivan. Yeah, Sivan, thank you Do. 1019 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,200 You have your new TV up yet? No, I got the I. 1020 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,640 Think it's supposed to come the 16th. 1021 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,600 This came in like literally 5 minutes before the podcast 1022 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,360 starts. And that's why I like, that's 1023 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,920 why I was so late. I was like, oh, I'll set this up 1024 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,360 now. It turns out it takes a long 1025 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,400 time to set up. Yeah. 1026 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,040 For anybody wondering, go look. At John's Games Mountain, it 1027 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,360 explains everything and we'll we'll have an update show after 1028 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,160 the. Semi finals on the mountain. 1029 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,960 Yeah. Thanks everybody for joining. 1030 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,160 We'll see you back here next Wednesday, same time, same 1031 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,720 place. And we'll go through everything, 1032 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,840 all things Europe, because we're definitely the experts at Europe 1033 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,680 and give our all of our picks so you can fill out your heat One 1034 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,800 app and try to win some money and maybe even some tickets to 1035 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,360 the games. So see you on Wednesday.