Good evening, everybody. We are back to Welcome to the
Spin, just two of us for now, Tyler is in route to CrossFit
Crash for the big showdown for quarterfinals.
So it's just me and John. We'll see if anybody else pops
in like a couple weeks ago. So John, how are you doing?
I'm doing great. How are you doing?
Still trying to recover from last week.
I'm still pumped that we got the we got that to pull off and had
no flaws really. I mean everybody jumped on did
it you know without a hitch. So that was that was pretty
awesome, so. I'll be honest, I thought I was
done doing 100 burpees for time for a while and then CrossFit
gives me 150 burpee box. Jump over so we'll see how that
looks. Yeah, yeah.
This is obviously the quarter. Final workouts have come out
today. This is a big jam packed day.
We've already had Pedro straight up and scribble.
We've had coffee pods and wads with around the whiteboard.
Now we're going and then in an hour and a half Savant Podcast
is also doing a CrossFit Games update show.
John, I think you're you're filling in, you're going to jump
right over from that too. I I believe so, Yeah.
I forgot. I'll be frank.
I'm. I'm glad you said something.
I completely forgot. Forgot about that, I guess.
I guess. Hopefully squeeze some some
waffles in between shows. Yeah.
No, it's get the get the fair life right there.
So you should be good. All right.
Without Tyler there, if you guys, we're going to try to call
a number again. So if you feel like calling in,
ask a question, drop a comment, Hopefully that will work this
time. If not, we'll just pass on it
again. All right, first topic, we'll go
back to viewer comments. First one from Sarah Lamb.
Speaking of last week's 100 burpees for time, make it a 100
series. Head, Head to head.
Hundred wall walks, 100 meter Sprint, 100 pirouettes, 100
calories on any type of machine. So many options.
Great viewing. What do you think, John?
That's not a bad idea. I'm I'm totally down for a
hundred 100 series. I will let the pros do it and
then I will pick what I think I can do and then if somebody
wants to pay me $1000 to do that every time, I'm totally down for
that. We wanted.
Nothing can hurt more than last week, so I'm game for any 100
series you want to do. Yeah, we had not.
I think we might have. Let's see if somebody's calling
here. Caller.
Hello. Nothing.
All right.
And we never caught up about dear 100 burpees for time and
how you got wrangled into that and then beat 5 minutes or by a
second. I feel like I got bullied into
it, but it all worked out. Dude, that was when you did
that. Do you have any idea?
Like did you look at the clock at all or were you just going as
hard as you could and? No, I knew I would slow down
after like 50. I was thinking, I can keep 50 at
this kind of fast pace and it's a little bit faster than 5
minutes. It's like a 430 pace, yeah.
And I knew I would slow down after that though.
And I was just thinking, if you it's just 30 burpees to 80, so
if you can just just keep slodging on you get to 80,
you'll be able to mentally. I'm always hoping I could just
Sprint at home at 80 and I got to 80 with one minute left and I
and I thought I was sprinting, but it did.
It didn't look like a Sprint and then I just luckily like we got
it in time. Yeah, that was that was fun to
watch. I thought you had it at 1st and
then it looked pretty ugly there around 50.
I was. I was nervous for you somehow.
Yeah, a lot of people thought I was going to keep slowing down.
I'm like, I'll have a Sprint. It's just, you know, getting
there. Yeah, no, that was the question.
That was that was an amazing, I guess 12 hours or so to watch
Colton and Jake and then watch Tater Tot and then yourself
puts. Into perspective how fit those
guys really are because I mean, I I don't know if it's the
hardest I've ever pushed myself but like I sold my soul to do
that and and they're just they're beating it by you know
over a minute. So, like, it's it's pretty
insane. And Colton just walks off right
after that. Yeah, that was pretty cool at
Jesse Goodrich. Thanks for making my day.
And I bought a case of Spade. I'm a new Jake Berman fan.
Tanya Bowers, great show. I bought a case of spade with
free shipping. I'm really curious to know how
much Spade has been sold in the last week.
We're supposed to get some right?
Has has yours been? Delivered I I yeah, I got some.
Just arrived today, so hopefully you'll be getting yours soon.
Yeah, I haven't had a chance to try it out, but I saw the
delivery notification, so if you guys haven't tried it, go out,
get some spade. Jake Berman's drink there at San
Valenzuela. Good job to the iron hog.
Going to buy some spade right now.
Awesome video. It's three and at avera great
show. You gentlemen seem to correlate
complex movements and tests with fitness.
Untrue. How many people can do 100 bar
facing burpees in 319? Are you telling me any test
could be simpler or that the test is not a gauge of fitness?
What do you think about that John?
Does it have to be more complex? If you're testing for the
fittest in the world, absolutely.
If you're testing for who is the best engine, then no.
Like we can test a 5K run. I would argue that's simpler
than a burp than 100 bar facing burpees.
The fastest guy at a 5K run is not the fittest guy in the
world. It has to be more complex when
you're testing for the fittest man or woman in the world.
It's not just an engine test. You know Brent Fakowski and I
feel comfortable saying this. I don't think he'll get pissed
off at it. Brent Fakowski is a fitter human
being than Colton Mertens. Brent Bukowski has touched a
peak of fitness that Colton Mertens has not touched.
I don't care how many home runs Colton has, he's not been there
yet and, you know, probably isn't there now.
You know, until he's top five in the games.
He's not Brent Bukowski at all. And I think Colton Mertens in
high school could beat Brent Bukowski now at 100 bar facing
burpees for time. So no.
And yet, like Colton is the best bar facing burby person in the
world and he's one of the fittest men in the world.
But he's also advantage at being good at that movement.
That doesn't mean it is the perfect test of fitness.
It's it's an engine test and it is going to be biased towards
shorter people. You know, Jake Merman's not
exactly a giant himself. I.
Think he's one inch taller than than Colton?
Yeah. Oh he's.
I think he's a couple inches. But but regardless regardless
like those guys are not as fit as Brent Fakowski.
I'll probably give Colton the edge on Hopper but you know he's
not. He's not beating 7th in the
world either. But you know, Hopper's so hit or
miss so I'll probably give Colton the edge on Hopper.
But like they can't dream of beating Colton or Jake in 100
bar facing burpees, so the test has to be more complex to get
everything. It's not just an engine test.
Yeah, there's there's ten pieces of fitness we got to measure
more than just one and that is an engine on burpees.
So and I I think that was a lot of in context to whereas you're
talking about quarter finals and and moving throughout the season
like when does that, when do you have to introduce the skills
when you have to introduce different complex workouts or
movements to find the fittest And I think that's really that's
really what the context was and 100 bar bar facing burpees is a
good test and it's a fun little thing to do but it's not
crowning the fittest in the world.
It's a good engine test is all is is.
I think if you want to say is 100 bar facing burpees a good
engine test? I would say for a sub 10 minute
time domain that's not like a Sprint then yes right I I think
it's a good engine test. Yeah, for you show half Thor is
the Burpee King. I'm not sure about that but
Julian Iford, is the phone line working?
It doesn't appear to be the case.
So I'll have to do some more testing on it.
I don't not sure what's going on.
It was working again earlier and then live show happens and it
does not work. So, yeah, we'll have to catch up
to that. So I think that was all of the
viewer comments tonight. Again, a lot of them was kind of
related to Colton and Jake and Spade.
But As for the big news quarter, final workouts are out.
John, have you done any of the workouts yet?
I did the clean and jerk workout.
That's event 4. And no, it's not because I think
I'll be good at it. It's because it's the easiest
one to do. Well, I want to get.
I want to hear about how you did.
Let's go and look at the workouts first and then we'll
get to that one and see how well you just did.
So I did put it up, put out an article with all the workouts as
training camps and others, put out tips and tricks.
I'll be putting it out there. So if you want to go see that,
go check out thebarbellspin.com. It's the most recent article,
All right, Workout number one. This is due Saturday at 5:00 PM
Pacific Time. 4 rounds for Max reps of one minute of snatches,
one minute of rowing for calories, one minute of dumbbell
box step UPS, and a one minute rest.
So 100. You're going to analyze each
workout as we go, as we go down, OK?
Yeah, so 135 LB snatches for the men, 85 for the women, 50 and 35
LB dumbbells and then a 20 inch box for both the men and the
women. This is kind of our this is the
fight gone bad that I thought we might see or fight gone bad
style workout we might see in the open.
Now it's in the quarter finals instead.
Thoughts initially on this one does.
This count towards your betting with the boys.
I think it was in the open. I don't think it.
I don't think I get credit for it.
That's brutal 'cause. That's such a great call.
I, I think I like this. I like.
So just for quarterfinal programming overall, if we're
going to talk about it, I think they did a good job.
I think well, I guess we'll talk about this later once we get
them all together. But overall, I think they did a
pretty decent job. I think this one is the most
strategy involved. The I mean and I really don't
know. I think it's going to be person
by person you know who if you're really good at one of these
movements then you need to hammer this movement.
I don't know what's the best way to do it.
I honestly am going like wait and kind of watch some you know
YouTube people do it. I might wait and watch Taylor
and you know the rest of the guys do it and and see where
more reps can be accounted for. Because usually in these type of
workouts there is a way to game it.
There is always one of the movements that you can get more
reps on than the other movements.
Now how to how to execute that to perfection is is unknown.
I will not know until I can see people do it right.
So I'm going to wait and see before I start analyzing it.
But I do love the work. I love that we'll see what the
20 inch box does. I think that's like a weird
wrinkle that guys are 20 inches and and girls are also 20
inches. Yeah, yeah, I think it
definitely helps Colton in this situation.
You say it helps Colton, but it's just going to make Hopper
that much faster. It's fair, fair.
I don't know. I I definitely go faster on it.
Yeah, I like that. It's a dumbbell box.
Step UPS and not step overs. I think step overs are much
harder, but step UPS, you can do way more reps.
It's also makes it more of a squat, right, Like that squat
feeling. It's going to fill your legs up
more doing step UPS because you have to stand up all the way.
I do think a lot of people are going to cheat this and it needs
to be inhaler. It's going to have a field day
on this one because I think a lot of people are not going to
stand up all the way. But I think this workout will
hurt people way more than they think.
It's if you want to be good at this workout to hold paces on
all of the minutes. Like, I think it's going to hurt
a lot. And that, that and that rest
minute almost makes it hurt more because you give you give your
body time to recover just so you can repeat the same pain that
you just did. There is no slowing down.
Speaking of gaming it So Ben Smith took to Twitter and I'll
just read it to you. He says Quarter finals workout
number one is a rowing workout Slash test, he adds.
Not very much separation, either the snatches or the step UPS for
the guys. Rowing is the only movement you
can really use to gain reps. If I was forced to include this
workout, it would look better in the open than in the
quarterfinals, but it's just his opinion.
Fight gone bad style workouts are some of my favorite training
workouts. I'm excited to get after it
tomorrow. I just never thought of them as
competition workouts due to the fact that all reps aren't quite
the same For for example, a snatch at 1:35 is very different
to me than one calorie on the rower.
I I agree with him somewhat but I feel like if you're really
fast, like you can do dumbbell box step UPS at the same at the
same rate, probably a faster rate than rowing calories,
'cause like if you're rowing hard but like not all out, but
you're rowing hard hard, like it's about 30 calories a minute,
right? That's that's one dumbbell box
step up every two seconds. I think that's manageable.
Now I I don't like, I would not I'd be able to do it for one
round and then I would not be able to repeat it.
But the fittest will be able to repeat it.
How many snatches in a minute? 15.
That's tough, man. I think maybe 2010.
Four sets of five? What's that, four sets of five?
Like, here's the thing. Here's the thing about that,
though. Can you do four sets of five and
then row hard? Right, that's the problem.
That's where it gets tricky on this.
Same thing with rowing. If you go 30 calories and you go
straight into the step UPS, do you get 30 step UPS too?
Right. I also think that transitions
are very important on this workout.
I think this workout will take the most strategy out of all of
them. But like for instance, if you're
snatching, like I would want to be in the rower before my minute
starts. If I think I can get the most
reps on the rower, I would want to be in that rower by the time
that minute hits. And then I would row all the way
up-to-the-minute. And then just, you know, you
know. What I'm saying yeah, like the
surprise. Rowing was not the first of the
four move, or of the three movements, so you could.
Start like that. You can start in the in the SAT
in the seat, like 'cause it. You're going to lose time trying
to get in there. Get it started like you probably
are. Better off to to not get that
last snatch in the last five seconds to get seated and get
ready. 100%. Use a lot more time, so that one
quite the burner. 16 minutes total 12 minutes of rest or 12
minutes of work. Just seeing this, do you like
what you have so far? I mean, I think, I think the
winner. I think the better you are at
this workout, the harder it will, the more it will hurt.
Like the fitter you are, the more this workout will hurt.
For instance, I think this workout is going to hurt me more
than it's going to hurt you. But I think that I think it's
going to hurt Taylor more than it's going to hurt me.
Does that make sense? Because you're capable of doing
more reps? It doesn't make it any less
painful, right? So the pain you feel is going to
be the same, like I'm going to feel the same pain as you, but
then I'm doing more reps, so it's going to be more pain,
right. Then same way with Taylor Dallin
and Jason Colton, they're going to be doing more reps than me.
So it's going to be more pain like.
So then it's just, but I do think if if we agree with Ben
Smith, which I mean I'll take his word for it right now, then
I think it's between Dallin and Hopper.
Roman, well, I mean for Taylor versus.
The. Oh, Taylor.
Yeah, yeah, What is that? Look who look who joined.
What are you doing? Welcome to Pussy.
Did you get yourself some brisket?
No. We thought about it though, so.
You Where are you right now? We're in Sevierville.
That's that's one of the big ones that's like the isn't that
the biggest Bucky's? Yeah, I I drove past that a few
months ago and saw it under construction and I heard that
was going to be the largest Bucky's in the country.
I stop. I stop.
In it every time now that I go to Spartanburg I have like a a
few things that I do when I always go to Spartanburg or come
back from Spartanburg. One is go to Bucky's and now
because of Semon and and Hiller, I always go to Popeye's on the
way back. It fits with the whole
Spartanburg. You know.
Sort of the aura. So how how far away is Knoxville
from from Spartanburg? And how long have you been on
the road? Been on the road since 1:00-ish.
I got another 2 1/2 hours 3. Probably vindicate Bucky's is on
his list to stop on the way to crescendo.
So anybody anybody traveling hit up Bucky's before you get back
on the road. Tyler, what are your thoughts on
the first workout? One bad style.
I like that one. I'm wondering because the box
step UPS are the same for men and women, right?
Yes Sir. So I'm wondering like it'll even
the playing field a little bit for the men I guess to get like
the most reps, but I'm wondering who in the world sets the most
reps and if it's a man or a woman.
Oh, men all the way. Men all the way.
Yeah, it's rowing calories, Tyler.
If it's rowing calories, that's the highest the same box.
It's not going to be close. That's a good point.
They should have adjusted the row cal's then I think to make
it like more fair. You know who I really like for
this workout? Who's that on the on the women's
side? The claw.
I think the claw, the claw, the claw is going to dominate this
one. If I was going to put any money
on, I'd say the claw. Don't.
Like that. Who do you think of the boys?
I mean, I think. I think.
Taylor has a good shot. It's.
Like in this workout. I mean, I know he's going
against Jason and Allen, but it's like to me, the other
movements make it even. Do you not agree?
Nope, no at the. I think on the rowing piece,
it's short enough, I think, that Hopper and Dallin can.
My prediction. Can take.
Over Dallin Hopper Taylor. On that.
Workout on this workout, yeah. I don't know.
I feel like Taylor's going to upset somebody on this one.
I I agree. Like at first glance, I think it
seems like Taylor shouldn't. It's just power output on the
roller, though. It's not in current.
It's how much power output it's not.
It's not like it's not a. 20 minute way.
Less engine you work. It's a way less engine workout.
It's way more. So you think this workout is
just all row basically? That's what Ben Smith said.
I. Think it's a lot of row.
Fair enough. What did do you?
I really like the handstand workout with I love.
That I love that workout, Tyler. We we have not gone to that one.
Let's see if we. Skip my favorite workout.
It's Workout 3. We're going to workout three
while Tyler's still around. So workout 33 rounds, 10
handstand push ups, 20 toes to bar, then two rounds of 10
strict handstand push ups, 5 rope climbs, and one round of 10
chest to wall handstand push ups and 20 ring muscle UPS.
There's your rope climbs, Tyler. You got half of it right.
I'm so upset. I swear they were listening.
I think no high rocks for me, man.
I was ready. Listen listen.
So like just just for all the the people listening I had to I
looked up high rocks races to see oh I guess I'm gonna I'm
gonna have to do a freaking high rocks.
And then there's only two in America this year like left.
It's one's in New York and one's in California or somewhere like
that Anaheim and and and I was like, OK, well and I had it
diagrammed because I was convinced that I was going to
have to do this and I had 1000 meters mapped out in my gym.
I had each station where I was going to put each station and I
was just going to make it like a Saturday event where like we're
going to do our own little local high rocks that I just created.
And because it's all the same stuff, right.
It would just be very like backyard, but we would go by
what, you know, they do, like what station is in what order.
And then I was just going to have somebody video me doing it
and I'd be like, OK, I did my high rocks.
I've paid my dues, but I don't have to anymore.
So. I'm happy for you, John.
I would have rather GHDS than rope climbs, I'll be honest with
you, but it's OK all right. So I'm going to jump off here
for that. I got to go ahead.
Go out, get the crash with Crash.
See you tomorrow. All right, so going back to.
I guess we'll go back to the first one real quick in the
world. Best man, best woman.
John. Hi.
You know, I think if I think if down or I think if I think down
is going to smoke this workout, I really do.
Roman Roman is a good call too. I really just think, I mean I
agree with Ben Smith, I feel like it's just going to be who
are your best rowers. But I feel like Dallin is one of
the best like grind work kind of guys out out there.
And he's like, I like him on the dumbbell, but I like him for
like sprinting the row and then being able to hold pace in the
dumbbell box step UPS. I don't know what to think of
the snatches. I I don't like again, like if
you're great at them, you get what, 2-3 reps maybe per minute,
but at what expense, right? Like again, all it's going to
come down to is how many calories you get and then how
much can you actually push on probably on that on those box
step UPS and eke out a few more reps.
But I I feel like the Snatchers are going to be pretty much
awash for the top, top athletes who are gunning for the top
spot. I do.
Too workout two also do Saturday night 3 rounds for time, 50 wall
ball shots, 50 lateral burpee box jump overs or just burpee
box jump overs. However you want to get over it
seems like because you can be facing the box if you want to,
or you can do them laterally, 20 minute time cap, standard
everything, wall balls and box jumps.
I think this is the most devastating workout evolved of
the four and like it just looks like an engine workout.
But I want to put this in perspective.
This is 150 burpee box jump overs now if you so like.
I've done a good a good engine workout.
I like for like regular regular people.
Like if you have a decent engine at a regular CrossFit class or
you know regular CrossFit gym, not competitors is a 10 minute
imam, 10 burby box jump overs. If you can do 10 for 10 like
you're you're pretty good cardio wise, like ioffer regular folks
and it'll work out. I think that's a good pace,
right? Like if you're moving you're
doing other things. I think that's a really good
pace. That's 15 minutes.
Right. 15 minutes and then you have 150 wall ball shots in 5
minutes. In 5 minutes, which is on
basically unbroken. I don't think very many people
are going to finish this workout.
I think this workout is. I think this is one of the ones
where like the Elite will finish it, but you like you have to be
really good to finish this workout.
It's not just something that like if you're decently fit you
can finish like this is an Elite engine workout.
I just think 150 burger box jump overs is so many and then not to
mention like that like the 150 wall ball shots like it's taking
it out of your press so you have to you're you're doing 150 push
ups too technically you know what I mean like and that's I
think it's gonna take a like your shoulders and your pressing
muscles. I think it's gonna take a lot
out of those Travis G might be Travis I didn't say I didn't say
only elite will finish. I said you have to be really
good. This is 1 where the elite people
will are be different than really good people.
Yeah, this is 1 where I think you look at it and you're like,
oh, everybody can do it, but to do it fast, it's going to take
something special. That's cool, Travis.
How much? Have your girlfriend do workout
four and tell me what she does with that.
OK. Yeah, you're Travis.
I like Amir Hum. Amir Hum.
I would. I'm going to.
Take Patrick Bellner to win for the men, though.
I think Patrick Bellner's going to smoke workout too.
How about Travis Mayer? Not as good as Patrick Melner.
Not. I don't think he'll be fast
enough on the burpees. I think the burpee box jump
overs are. It's way more of a burpee
workout than a wall ball workout.
Way more. About three times is more.
Yeah, we know Travis. The other Travis vindicate
Travis could not do this and finishing the time cap world
record time is 1605. I don't know who that is yet.
Velner looks older than mayor. Velner's still fitter than mayor
at this point. How Colton down Taylor like?
This is the hardest one to predict.
For those four, it's the hard I Yeah, I do.
Why do you say that? I just don't know who's going to
win. I think, I think Taylor has a
good shot at this one. I don't think he has a bad shot.
But I think Colt, I think Colton and Taylor will be the two that
they they really do the reverse of what happens in the first
workout. I disagree with that.
I think Dallin will still take third over Jason.
No, I I I had a literally all four of them.
I don't know. I think they'll all four.
I think Dallin and Hopper will be better than you think on
this. Dallin and Hopper are the wall
balls are nothing for them. Like here's it's about like what
the the toll. I know they'll all probably do
the wall balls. I'm broken.
But it's the toll that that takes.
It's the it's the energy that that takes in your shoulders and
your pressing muscles and down and Hopper will have less energy
expenditure on those than Taylor and Colton.
And I know Taylor is awesome at burpees but burpee box jump
overs and and burpees are different.
I think Taylor I think Taylor will be fine.
I think he'll be in the running he might win but like I just
don't think I I don't think it's a given any four of them ahead
of the other one. I this I this is the hardest
one. I'm telling you I think they're
all going to be really really close and it'll be come down to
who can Sprint the last 50 at the end but it's not a six
minute who can hurt more. This is just who is the fittest.
Endurance wise, I think this is way more of an endurance test
than a who can hurt the most test.
Barkley Dale, the bee friendly stats department and Jeopardy
wizard on Get with the programming with the predictive
model I've run workout two is the closest of all the workouts.
Yeah, with my brain, I just said that, Barkley, I don't need this
some fancy predictive model that I'm going to take five hours to
build in the computer. I just think it.
How tall is Taylor? I think he's 510.
He's probably 5-10 with shoes on.
I I'm, I'm 510 and I'm, I'm a hair taller than Taylor but like
not a lot. Like we're basically the same
height, but I I have him like by a very small margin.
Yeah, Chelsea Miller, Emma Lawson and Danielle Brandon for
the women. I like the Emma Lawson pick.
Dude, I don't know, man. I I just, you know who you know
who I would have picked for this workout?
Emma freaking Carey. I think Emma Carey would rock
this workout and she's not doing it.
Yeah, I think that's a good one. Yeah, it is.
Step down. So you can't, but I don't think
that matters. But well, I think it hurts
people like Taylor. Yeah, 'cause you can't go as
fast. I mean, it's kind of like it.
Hurts Colton. What was that?
Was it the what was it called intervals during the games with
the step downs? Like, I don't think it's like
that. I don't.
Think it's from a standpoint of you can't make up that much
ground on yes on the Bock burpee box jump overs when you have to
step down. But I think we will see it
though like over 150 they will. Sure, Yeah, Yeah, you will.
You will. I mean in that workout you could
definitely make it back up on the row if you went hard, but by
the time you got to the box jump overs like you pretty much knew
you were set. This one if the wall balls
again, if you can do them unbroken, there's no word in the
game. You're going to have to go hard
on those. I I think the elites are all
going to be went in the same, the same ballpark.
Yeah, I I do think, I think annual Brandon is a good call.
Emma Lawson didn't win the interval workout on the box jump
she wanted on the row. Yeah, but she did well in.
That's not a bad call, workout one.
What's that? Emma Lawson Like, the more I
think about it, I'm really liking that.
Yeah, I would agree with that one.
Got more Horvath? More Horvath might win workout
one. She's very good at the rower as
well so and the step UPS I'm sure will not be an issue with
her at all. Workout 3J Rs.
Favorite workout we already went through.
The description This is my favorite workout too.
Probably the hardest when it comes to broadcasting, Taylor
versus the world. Probably the hardest to do to
set up your video to make it work for an affiliate.
If you were in be competitive, you can't do it in a class
setting, You have to. You got to move stuff around and
figure out how to make this so you're not running all over the
place. But bunch of handstand push ups,
I guess a bunch of handstand push ups, rope climbs, ring,
muscle UPS, 15 minute time cap. How easy do you think this is
the finish? For me, I'm not finishing for
anybody that for anybody that makes it to the games they
finish easily. I'm.
Doing the math right now I mean. Ten hands and push ups aren't
going to take anything. At the end of it, it might.
No, I'm saying the 1st 10 hands and push ups like you get
through those first couple rounds and a few minutes.
I think this will take me 12 to 13.
Right. So it takes you 12 to 13.
I mean, again, anybody at the games is going to be finishing
well under the time cap. Right.
You know what I mean for sure, for sure, for sure.
I'm just, I was just wondering. Is this is this one where Tyler
beats you? No, Tyler didn't beat me in one
open workout. I thought he beat you in one.
No, he beat me in the workout one and then.
I redid it. That's.
Right. And I beat it.
Yeah. No, I like his best shot at
beating me is something that's very easy to do.
The harder it is, the better I'm going to be.
Like if these were chest to wall deficit handstand push ups, I
would rank even higher. If they were, if it was 40
muscle UPS, I would rank higher. Like I'm not, I'm not beating
people like Taylor, but like, you know what I mean?
Like the harder the workout looks or as hard to do I.
Just know, Tyler, if he's going to beat you anything, it's
probably going to be the gymnastics.
Yeah, he's he's he's really good at handstand push ups.
That's his best thing. But I'm also very good at
handstand push ups. I I think he likes bringing up
handstand push ups. He's really good at it.
But I We're pretty much the same on handstand push ups.
Yeah. Are you surprised to see rope
climbs after teams not having it?
A lot of talk about most affiliates could do it.
I mean well equipped garage gyms can do it.
I I don't have a 15 foot garage so that doesn't matter.
But are you surprised to see it given kind of where we're at in
the programming? Yeah, y'all had me convinced
that it wasn't going to be there.
Y'all had me convinced that quarter finals was going to be
trash, and I'm not. I'm not mad at quarterfinals at
all. I I think, I think in the past
like we would have had a fifth workout and that fifth workout
would be something sprinty like like like the 30 Cal Row, 20
Berry box jump over 10 snatches 185 like we would have had a
workout like that as the 5th workout.
And so like obviously I Biasly would like that, like would like
to have that. But but as far as the four
workouts, if it's well balanced or not, I think it's really,
really well done. Like this is all gymnastics, all
gymnastics. It's not necessarily breathy,
but the fitter you are, the more breathier it will be because
you're not going to stop from muscle fatigue.
Right. The same with the barbell.
The stronger you are the OR the fitter you are, the more reps
you'll do, the stronger you are the fitter you get, blah blah
blah. But it's all barbell.
And then the second one is all engine, straight engine.
And then the first one is a little bit of everything.
It a little bit biased in the engine side but you know it's a
move 130 power over and over again.
Like, yeah, it's more it's power output repeats, right.
So like, I think it's a very, very well balanced test.
My only nitpick would be is that like I would have liked another
barbell on the strength one, but we'll we'll get there when we
get there. But I love this workout.
I think this will be the most fun workout to do.
I think it's very grippy and I think this is going to be the
workout that Taylor wins. This is Taylor's.
I think Taylor's going to win it.
I know everybody's going to want to pick Colton, but you show me
something that Taylor can't do and Taylor is a monster on ring
muscle UPS. If it was more handstand push
ups, I might pick Colton, but Colton might have a slight lead
and then Taylor will make that up on the rope climbs.
I know Colton's not bad at rope climbs, but ten rope climbs is a
lot if Colton thinks to do 2 1/2.
If anybody breaks, do you think Colton or or Taylor break up on
any of them on the ones that you can do they they can't.
They have to break up on the 20 muscle UPS at the end, 10/10 or
11/9 or something. Like that I I don't know I I I.
I. I would be shocked if they
didn't break it. I'll say, I'll put it like that.
Here's The thing is that you're going like, yes, you see 20
muscles in the end and you think, man, they'll be capable
of that for sure. You're not wrong, but they're
going to go 10 handstand push ups and then 20 toes to bar
unbroken as fast as they can. And then they're going to go 10
strict handstand push ups, unbroken 5 rope climbs, 2 rounds
of that as fast as they can. Their grip is going to be shot
and then they'll have 10 wall facing handstand push ups.
They'll be able to do that, but it is going to take it out of
your muscles, like your your shoulder muscles and like I just
don't think that's so much to do to then just do 20 muscle UPS
unbroken. You know what I mean?
And I think probably doesn't really.
I mean, unless it's a really close race, it probably won't
matter, right? You can come down once, shake it
out five seconds, go back up. It's not going to make that big
of a difference if you've been able to go unbroken or or make
it up the the rope climbs easy. Any predictions on the men's
side? As the winner.
As the overall winner worldwide. Noah Olson.
If he does it. Oh, that's right, he's not.
He's not. If he does it, what about Victor
Hoffer? Is there enough separation there
to be able to do something like that?
I don't know. Does he?
Does he do? Here's the thing, like, I don't
know if he's a. He's highly skilled.
He could do all of it very well. I know, but that hand, the
handstand push ups might hire him.
Like, yeah, he's a great gymnastics, but like handstand
push ups is not like, it's more of just muscle fatigue put in
your arms. Adler.
I don't know, man. Adler's a decent call, but he's
going to win Workout 4 this is. One where I would say that
Colton has a chance of winning the whole thing, which if you
say that Taylor has a chance of beating Colton, I mean yeah, I
think Taylor's got a shot. I think Taylor's got a shot to
be a top tier score. It's hard for me to pick Taylor
against somebody like Bellner. I feel like Bellner will just
find a way to be faster. There's a reason he's the 2nd
fittest guy in the world forever, however many years.
But I think Taylor will have a top tier in the world score in
this workout, yeah. On the women.
I think Alexis Raptus is going to be really good at this.
Workout very good at this. Alexis Raptus I think Alex Gazan
will have a will be really good at this workout.
I would. Those two would probably be my
pick. Yeah, I I would agree with that.
Rebecca Fusile. I OK, here's the thing.
I think. I think their fitness will
overcome fusillae's gymnastic prowess.
For instance, I just I I don't think either of those two care
about the Open at all. This matters.
They're going to take this seriously.
This is the Workout of the Day. Wad Zombie No Spiegel.
Nope. And then we'll move on to the
last workout work out for John. You've done this 110 clean and
jerks rest a minute, 10 more clean and jerks at a bigger
weight, rest a minute 10 more at a higher weight and then the Max
reps 245 for the men, 165 for the women.
How many total reps John did you get this afternoon?
Well, I don't know if I want to reveal all that.
Man you. Don't want to.
You don't want to give somebody a target to go chase.
No, I I think I said it already, but I know.
I think I'm going to keep it, not say it again.
Got it for that top spot. I don't mind telling top people
in my score, but there's a lot of people that are on my level
that I don't. I don't feel like telling you.
Don't want to give it to him, all right.
Yeah, no, it's already out there.
So I I commented it and then I was like I probably shouldn't
have commented it. The one super heavyweight, It's
all Bell or Bell, not paired with anything else.
Do you like that? Not not you personally, but as.
A Yeah, yeah. I think if you're gonna have the
all gymnastics workout that you just had, then like, this has to
be all barbell. And I I really feel like you
have an all engine one and all gymnastics, one and all lifting
one and then one. That's a little bit of
everything. And for four tests, I think
that's beautiful. Yeah.
My only nitpick is I would. I wish there was one more
barbell. I think, for instance, like, I'd
like what slowed me down was breathing.
Like I was just tired. It wasn't strength.
So like I do think there'll be like guys that are fitter than
me that will beat my score that aren't necessarily stronger than
me versus something like Taylor will be, will beat my score just
'cause he's fitter. Where like if there was a 265
part, 65 LB Barbell. And like if you guys think you
have that minute rest again, like you're going to have like
one minute, one minute to do 265 for like guys who are strong,
like you'll have you'll have around one minute to do 265.
And I think that would have been an amazing race for like 1 like
enemy just one minute to do 265 as many as you can and that's a
heavyweight to try to cycle as fast as you can or 2:45 for
especially the elites. I don't think there will be a
ton of separation. There will be there will be
separation. I just don't think there will be
a ton and I think if you had one more barbell there would be but
I but I was super nitpicky. I think it's a great test.
That's my only qualm with. It can anybody beat Laura
Horvath. No.
On the men's side of the games, people, Jack.
Farlow have more than every man to Yes I I picked.
Jeff, at the one at definitely at the 165 you guys.
You're not listening to me. You're picking ghee and Jack
Farlow. It's a 245 LB.
Barbell. It's not heavy enough for those
guys to beat. People like Jeff Adler.
He's too fit. I don't think Ghee or Jack
Farlow will be top ten. I don't think they'll be top ten
in this workout because there's not.
It's not heavy enough to have that type of separation.
I think Jeff Adler's untouchable in this workout.
I don't. I can't see anybody beating Jeff
in this workout. You go look at any workout.
Wherever he's cycling a heavy barbell, he is the best by far.
There's nobody close, right? Well, how did Jack Farlow do in
225 Grace at Rogue? Somebody want to tell me how
Jack Farlow did in 225 grades because he wasn't freaking close
to Jeff Adler. That's what the freak I'm
talking about. It's still fitness.
Like what I'm saying is it's not.
It's a fitness strength test. The gymnastics workout is a
fitness gymnastics test, right, Like, and that's fine.
That's how it should be. If you wanted to make it more of
a strength test, there should be another barbell.
But if you don't, that's OK too. Like, I still think it's a great
test, but you need to stop with the Jack Farlow and the Gmail.
If Jack Farlow and Gmail Heroes have a top score, that means I
also will have a top score. And I'm telling you, I am not
going to have a. Top.
Score it will it will be good. But it it's not going to be like
an elite thing. There's the fitter guys will be
ahead of those guys. I didn't gallon.
Pepper will win for the guys on. The on Taylor versus the world.
Yes. Yep.
So those are the four workouts. Who do you got in that one?
I do think that. One I think, I think Adler,
Adler I think is again I think the the initial reaction is what
comments were saying. Taylor versus the world.
Oh, Taylor versus the world. Possibly Hopper, but I think
it'll be Dallin Hopper and then. I think Colton would be pretty
good at this one, man. I think so too.
I think that I think Dallin. I think these these workouts
line up very well for Dallin. Very, very well.
He's he's he generally does really good at quarterfinals.
He's I think I quarterfinals lines up really, really good for
him it's and then I think semi finals lines up really good for
Jason. Yeah.
Yeah, I completely agree. All right.
I want to shift now. LDY 2742, John, you're going to
have to redo. This.
Nope. One and done for everything for
you, John. I think, I think if I repeat, I
think I'll repeat the gymnastics one like I'll probably do it as
good as I can and then try to pace out what would be better
than that or where I got slow and then try to try to pace that
one. The burpee one I will not redo
for the fact that it's going to be the worst one.
I'm just going to give my best effort and that's going to be
what it's going to be the and then work out one.
I I kind of think as long as I'm smart about it and I execute
well, it'll be, you know, it'll kind of be hard to beat as far
as like for me to beat it again because there's just one minute
intervals. If you do it right the first
time, there's nothing you can really change.
Right. You know what I'm saying?
Yep. All right.
So I don't know if you guys have watched.
I don't know if, John, you've had a chance to watch Pedro
coffee pods and wads did, I don't know, five or six of these
strictly press. Basically a a press interview of
a bazillion different coaches. Sometimes coach athletes went
through them all. I went through all clipped them
out, got 14 minutes of some of the best content.
I want to go through it. I highly recommend you guys go
back through. I pulled just a few clips for us
to kind of discuss. As you listen to these, John, I
want you to try to think, are they telling the truth or are
they giving a spin to Pedro? Because if you listen to it,
you'll find a trend. Most of it is very positive.
So take a listen. It's at 1 1/4 speed, so we can
get through a little bit quicker.
We'll go through a whole range of stuff similar to what Sivan
does with the week in review. So here we go.
Amanda, how are things going there?
How's her injury? How's she feeling?
Yeah, good reminder. When obviously we've all just
come over to HP or HQ now in Vermont, everyone got in
yesterday. So I've been one training
session so far and it was a big muscle up session.
Fix all the boxes. Great progress made in the last
few weeks especially, yeah. Amanda Barnhart doing some
muscle up sessions. Everything's great.
We look at quarter finals. Do you think he's telling?
You better hoped everything went great of those muscle UPS.
Yeah, Everything that she's going through, I know she's been
doing some. Based on the quarter final
workouts, there's only 20 ring muscle UPS.
Do you think she gets a pass on this one?
Like she can qualify based on what we have the workouts?
Yeah, I'd something like that be an issue.
I do well. Amanda Barnhart is a very, very
good at handstand push ups, Very good at handstand push ups.
So I think where other women will be slow, she will not be so
like if she's cautious on, it's just 20 at the end.
So if she could do them like really at all, she could go 6554
and just kind of coast that in and it's still a hard enough
workout that she'll be fine. Plus take that into account,
she's going to mash the rowing interval one and then mash the
clean and jerk one right like she's got and then the Burberry
one is not going to match. But, but I I think, I think with
these workouts, I think she'll be, I think she'll be fine if
she can do that, like if it's pain free and she can do them
even if she's cautious, I think she'll be fine.
Yeah, here. We go, there's hesitation there,
but it's just because the shoulders not in the same
position it was a year ago, but progress is, is is definitely
happening. What about Brooke?
There is some obviously Brooks Brooks here as well.
We've got Brooke and Amanda and we've just run through another
very similar session. It's like it's like a similar
injury but but also quite different at the same time in
terms of what they need to do to, you know, help the the the
issue get better. Brooke Wells torn labrum.
Also muscle UPS. Been an issue.
I saw that she posted something on Instagram she she's doing
them again. Same situation as Amanda.
Kind of got a a pass on these quarter final workouts.
I think it's different for Brooke.
Oh, different. How so?
I just don't believe in Brooke that that simple.
Yeah. I mean, I yeah.
Yeah. I mean, like, if Brooke makes it
cool. I don't.
I don't really think Brooke is going to be that good.
What? What would your odds be that
Brooke qualifies for semifinals? She's still one of the fittest
women in the world, is the thing.
Like, you know. I mean the first workout, I
don't think the snatches, 85 LB snatches are not going to be an
issue for her. I'm going to say 5050. 5050
Really. All because of this gymnastics
workout. No, I just don't think she's
going to be. I think Amanda Barnhart will be
good better at than her at at three of the four workouts.
So like even if their shoulders are the same I think Amanda
Barnhart will just be better than Brooke Wells.
Like I don't think. I think Amanda Barnhart will be
a better than Brooke at the clean and jerk workout.
I think she'll be better than Brooke at the rowing workout I
think and then at the handstand push up ring muscle up workout.
I think she'll be better than Brooke.
I I actually think Brooke will be better on the burby workout
but three verse 4 you know what I mean?
So like I say, Amanda's 24th Brooke is 50, you know, You see
what I'm saying? I I'm not as negative on Brooke
as you are. I think.
I think the programming actually fits both of them to make it
through much better than we thought going into today.
Yeah, yeah. You know, there's not stuff that
she's not going to be able to do.
But women, women are fit, man. Like I just.
Yeah, but you got to look at the the 40th person that's going to
qualify out of North America East.
Like I think they have a lot of leeway to try to to.
The women are not as good as the men.
Like death. Wise.
I I. You know you're right.
You're right. I think she should make it.
There's nothing. It's it's not like the first one
isn't 3 rounds of 20 muscle UPS or three rounds of 15 muscle UPS
or something like that on it. Like I get it's at the end.
But again like she could do double s and probably still make
it through and still be that that her.
That'd be her worst workout where she can still.
I'll put it like I think Mariam Monroe beats both of them.
Overall worldwide ranking? Yeah, could be Josh Marilla
talking about Haley Adams. Moving or you know, throwing an
eye beyond quarterfinals and to semi finals, is that something
that you're in any way concerned about, like in person
competition and the fact that it's been a while since she's
done it and or or are you expecting her to just slip back
into that kind of mode of focus? We've actually had lots of
conversations about this. She doesn't treat the
quarterfinals any different than she would semifinals.
And you know, she's a very seasoned athlete, so you know
we're going to rely on that experience.
The just. Rely on the experience.
Get through it. I mean, I feel like Haley again.
She's just going to cruise onto this.
Yeah, and Haley's going to, and Haley's a 90% lifter, right?
Which means, like, she can move 90% of her Max really, really
well, right? And I don't think the weight is
heavy enough to stop Haley. I think she'll be able to do 165
fine. I think she'll be able to power
clean and power jerk all of that.
And so I think she'll do well at the clean and jerk workout.
Because it's not. The only thing Haley doesn't do
well is top, top in strength. That's the only thing she.
Doesn't do well. There's nothing in this.
Everything else Haley is a monster.
That's literally and Haley like not, not, not just like she's
good. She's a monster at everything
except top in strength and and that's why she'll never win.
That's why she might not podium ever.
Because you have, because she takes the last place in these
in, you know, two workouts every year.
But if it's not those things, she she's one of the best women
in the world. I don't know if she's still that
because she took a hiatus, but I'm going to believe she is
until she shows me that she's not anymore.
When it comes to like I said Brooke, where I'm so down in
Brooke, she's shown me that she's not anymore.
Right. Right.
And like, maybe she just had a bad year.
She comes back, she's great. That's awesome.
Shows show that resilience, right?
And make it back and go back to the game.
She definitely was hurt for sure, and I'm probably way too
hard on Brooke, but if she makes it back to the games, then she's
made it back. I'll have more faith in her.
But that's why I don't have faith in her, because you've
already shown me that she's on the downhill trend, right?
Barnhart took a hiatus, still made the games was just hurt,
you know what I mean? I guess, I guess I I still would
put Brick as being able to qualify for semifinals easily.
Ariel Lowen? Yeah, I think both.
I think both given this programming, I don't think.
I think, I think looking at a lot of it, like like I talked
about last week, I think this really looks like beefed up Open
workouts from 6-7 years ago from the style of what they're
testing. I think it just looks like open
workouts 5 years ago. Some degree, but yeah, I mean, I
guess it was the 50. We had 265 snatches in 2017, 265
snatches. Now it's cleaning jerks.
At 2:45, Yeah, get out of here. Something wants to put no.
Absolutely not. Because she should make it.
She should, she absolutely should make it.
But if she doesn't, she's been headed that way.
That's all I'm saying. She absolutely should make it.
It should be fine. She should be great.
She should make the games. She should make the games.
I'm just saying if she doesn't, she's been on the downhill
train. All right, here we go, Ariel.
Owen. Asked.
We saw you quite a busy offseason.
You're in Birmingham, the open and that travel and the kind of
hectic offseason. Are you feeling good?
Are you feeling like, you know, like little niggles or wears
and. The niggles.
That was definitely a trend. If you watch any of these big
big niggles type guy Pedro. Bears or anything that you're
concerned about the next couple of months?
Yeah. As Ariel Owens, coach of Ariel
Owen, the biggest thing right now is like pulling back the
reins of a horse. I know it needs to be done.
Probably after quarter finals, I'll start ramping up a little
bit. But right now it's just like
making sure like I'm just chilling, I'm just relaxing, I'm
having fun. So when it's time to go hard, we
let the rings go and we go crazy.
Your boy. It's a smart move for somebody
like Ariel. Yeah, just cruising.
Go ahead. Is there anybody that has that
you'd have a concerns about? Like they need to peak for
quarterfinals that were at the games last year?
Is it pretty pretty simple? Yeah, I think people like Yellow
Hosta need to be fitter than people like Ariel Lowen.
I think he needs to have like a little little mini peak and
maybe even like Fikowski where like you just know 4 workouts,
if there's one that you are disadvantaged because of your
size, it like you. I mean, you know that, right?
Like so. And they're smart.
They're smart people, like, so. Like, I feel like those guys
might need to be closer to their peak fitness than somebody like
Errol Loewen, who's just gonna be good at everything.
Like it doesn't matter, but no. Matt Torres from Brute.
He's then so James and Dylan both came off huge seasons.
James, you know, it was, it was great for James to have this
showing that he had at Wakalooza.
You know, finally we're putting together a healthy year for him.
Healthy year. I think James just posted a hurt
his back or something like that like last week.
So that's where I'm talking about like do we believe
everybody that's that's on here, right?
Like is James healthy or is he not?
I don't know. You know, he's hitting his
stride nicely as far as the strength gains that he needs to
be making. I'm really excited for James
this year. I always told people that I
thought James was, you know, born to be a Games athlete.
The dude's naturally aerobic, You know when the when we get to
the cross of the games it is extremely important to be able
to get out and run, be able to do some longer odd object things
as well. Coach Alden has a few people on
his roster, so, you know, obviously John Young.
Very good, John. John Young.
Danielle, Brandon, Kelsey, Keel, Roe, Scott.
Are they all feeling good? Final loss.
And there's no injuries, no niggles, no, you know, doubts on
anything there. Kelsey, this has been her best
year of training so far, stepping away from team, coming
into the individual side. I mean we can follow her, her
progress pretty much like weekly on her Instagram story.
So you can you can kind of see like she looks like a completely
different human, but she still has that strength that she that
everyone knows her for. Does it?
John, you train under Coachelle along with Kelsey.
Do you do you guys see how each of you guys are doing?
Do you share, Do you have a kind of a message board or anything
like that? Yeah, I mean, we don't.
I think I talked to Kelsey maybe like Adm or two once every two
weeks. It's not like a a lot or
anything like that. But well, I worked out with her
at the camp at the We have a Brute camp and and worked out
with her and Ariel Saunders. I think that's somebody, or
Ariel Saunders is somebody to watch out for.
I think she'll make semis another athlete under coach up.
But yeah, Kelly or Kelsey. Kelsey is ripped the freak up
like she. Whenever he goes, she looks like
a different person. She really does.
I'm really excited what she to see what she does.
The clean and jerk workout. She might give Laura a run for
her money. I don't.
I don't think she'll beat Laura. Listen, Laura is no Laura is not
touchable, OK? I I will not bet against Laura
Horvath in a lifting. Even Laura's untouchable.
But I bet you Kelsey does something crazy too.
And for the most part, these workouts line up good for her.
Barbie One's going to be rough, but it's going to be rough for a
lot of people, so. I didn't realize this, but she's
she moved to Louisiana, so she is in the West.
Yeah, yeah, no. And and and like training every
day with Ariel and Will Leahy comes out there.
Sometimes Brandon Luckett, he trains there.
Sometimes random luck. It's like an hour away.
So like, they get together a lot.
I'm telling you, like Kelsey Keel is a name to to, to watch
for because like, I think people kind of disregard her a little
bit. Dude, she she's coming.
After after her, Watapolu's a qualifier.
I think people were. And by the way, we did two, we
did 2 water Palooza workouts as part of the camp.
Like, it wasn't even, we weren't fresh or anything and then we
just did it. We did workout 55 minutes after
workout 4. So like it wasn't like like you
know, you see these rankings, everybody's not the same.
Like, I know for the fittest experience there was a guy,
there's a guy that I I talked to from time to time and like he
like peaked for the fittest experience qualifier.
Like he was everything to him. And this it, it was like the
second workout of my of my training session for for me.
Like it wasn't something I paid for.
It's just I was sore half the time when I did that stuff and
then 'cause I thought I'd have no problem getting in right?
Like, you can't just look at qualifying, you can't look at
qualifiers, You have to look at the stuff that matters.
Or in live competition, qualifiers mean nothing because
you don't know everybody's situation when they're doing
them. The only thing that matters is
open quarterfinals when you see their videos and then semi
finals live action. Unless it's like Waterpaloozer
Rogue and you're like, you're actually there, right?
But no, I think I'm excited to see what she does.
Yeah, Fergie's show. What about Tia still hurt?
You have to watch. OK, Nick Johnston was
interviewed. It's coming.
She's up. Yeah, has has a few niggles, but
is improving. Is it different when there's a
bit of a target on his? Back I think it feels different,
definitely like now that we've achieved the goal, like the
expectation is there where it wasn't in the past, but in terms
of just training and how we approach the season, everything
like that, it's the same. Basically like we always try to
adapt every year, change something, make sure that we're
pushing his fitness forward. Like the goal, if you want to
win the game, just to be the fittest.
So I need to keep improving your fitness.
The goal has been achieved. Mostly the workouts aren't the
same. Yeah.
And I don't think he was the fittest in 2023.
He was one hurt, broken foot from being second fittest.
Yeah, I and I, and listen, Jeff, Jeff Adler has just as much of a
chance to win the CrossFit Games as two other people.
He really does. I I don't think there is much
separating those three guys at all.
And I think they all have their own type of home runs and the
more we learn about the games, the more the picture will become
more clear. I think the fact that it's
indoors, how he usually does really good at the indoor
workouts. But then like, but you also look
like, I mean he was really good at the bike.
He was really good at the run. Those are also stuff that Ricky
is really, really good at and in Roman too, like all three of
them are good at the outside stuff, so.
If anybody, though, I would say Adler is probably the least is
the worst at odd things thrown at him.
For sure, but I don't think being inside negates the odd
things being thrown at them. And I think Dave will be very
creative and finding if since most of it's inside, there's
going to be a creative odd thing.
There's probably going to be a couple of them and it's just
going to be who adapts the best. And I will say I think Roman is
the best at adapting. I think Velner's the best at
adapting period out of all of them.
But yeah, Velner 100%, when something new comes up that
we've never seen before, Velner is better than everybody.
I think Velner is more athletic than everybody.
I think I think Velner adapts better than any other athlete.
I would argue that's his greatest trait.
Better than Matt Fraser, If it's something neither one of them
have ever seen. Patrick is usually really,
really good climbing snail. What did he get?
He got second place. Bukowski was first.
Only guy that beat him when Elizabeth Elevator came out.
The parallel dip bars. What happened?
He won. Beat everybody by a lot.
I get it. He's a gymnast, right?
That's the thing a lot of the gymnastics based things that are
new, he's going to. Chaos.
Nobody knew what was going on there.
He won that. Like, if it's new, he's usually
pretty awesome. And if Jeff is the opposite, If
it's new, he's usually pretty trash.
And then and then Roman is also, I think Roman is very good at
adapting too, but I don't. I think bounder's better than
everybody when it comes to adapting to new things.
And then Ricky Ricky's hit or miss.
Sometimes Ricky will be great and sometimes he will not be
great. There you go.
Jr. agrees with you. Josh Wooley from Mammoth
Training Methods. He is the coach of Emma Lawson
and Jack Farlow. Listen closely to what he has to
say about them. Coming off the back of the Open
are I guess to start with Emma, is she feeling good?
Is there's no Negro? There's no like.
She has no concerns or anything other than the usual wear and
tear. Yeah, no, I think for the most
part she's feeling pretty good. You know, people see what they
see on social media and they think everything is always
peachy in these athletes lives, but they they definitely go
through some stuff. So we've been dealing with a few
things kind of outside of the gym, but everything's good and
that I know she's excited for. Speaking of.
Well, that's interesting. Things are good in the gym, but
not great outside of the gym. Any concerns?
I don't know that that was a that was one of the few times
that anybody spoke and didn't say something super positive.
Or her and Jack on the rocks. I don't know.
That would suck.
It would be. I would immediately think Jack
Farlow is no longer an up and Comer.
At that point. Well, he's got one of the best
training partners. In the world, man, that's my.
Don't. I don't know if they broke up.
Don't start that rumor. I I'm just I I don't know it.
Was it was just very odd might. Have passed away, You know what
I mean? Like, she might have had
something bad, like if everything's good in the gym,
you know what I mean? She might have just had
something that comes up like a some personal thing.
Yeah, hopefully it's nothing serious interesting.
Hopefully it's not like mental, right?
Right, Like 6 for six and we need to put a 21 age limit on
when you can join the games. Yeah, if, if Emma Lawson.
Just for women. Just for women.
Men are men are cool, men are cool. 21 You gotta be 21 or
older for women. Yeah, here we go for Kundo.
Oh, hang. On he He had like a very, very
good showing in Miami and wanaploos.
He seems to have made some changes in the offseason, like
mentally as well as some of his training maybe that he's been
doing it. Are you expecting big things
this year? I talked to Guy yesterday,
actually he he was very happy. It is true that I mean Guy spoke
openly about his strikers he had last year.
I think that we can say that he's in the past and this year
he could concentrate differently.
You know, Manny. Guy is happy, Happy Guy is a
good guy. So there you go, Adam's.
Man, I want to be fast. I want fast running gear.
Yeah, he's got to do show us some speed.
He'll get into Kopa Surah, no problem, but we'll see how he
does. He's.
Been happy before like I don't. I don't then doesn't do.
Anything he won, he won. Games, events when he was happy.
He was not happy last year. Adam Neefer, Justin Maderos.
He on the outside would have said, and I'm sure he said
himself, that last season would have been classified as a
disappointment for him compared to the years that came before.
It is it difficult to kind of lift things to bounce back after
that? Or with someone like him, is it
easy because he's just desperate to improve on the things that
let him down? Yeah, I I think that when you
described last season as a disappointment in the outcome
for Justin, that's that's accurate for sure.
You don't have to win the games twice to move down the
leaderboard. Leaderboard that far was, you
know it was a tough pill to swallow.
But at the same time as we started planning and preparing
for this year, that's the the best medicine is he's hunger to
get back to work and excited to to just get deeper into the
season. Yeah, Madera's top ten at the
games, John. Yes or no?
Yeah. OK, Andre Houdet.
Absolutely. I'll say yes.
You're so dramatic. I'm not, I'm.
I'm not as confident as you are. I think this year is definitely
telling. If he wants to get a chance back
on the podium, he has to have a good year this year.
Otherwise, I think he's going to be a catcher in David's
daughter. Two wins, she got second place,
like five years later, right? But I mean, she'll float around
there but not be. Got to just be that was. 2020 I
understand, I know, I know, I know that was a low, that was a
low, but just be just be one of the people that are there.
Right. Yeah.
Andre Houdet. He stellar debut season last
year at the Games. For sure.
I mean 100% that that brings a lot of pressure, but like I
said, we've been. Working.
This is talking about yellow host day and getting ready for
quarter finals. We've been working really hard
since last year and he's improved a lot on some of his
weaknesses, which were the only things that, you know, put him
in a outside Top 40 spot last year.
So we're really looking forward to seeing how he's going to, how
he's going to respond to some of those tests that that exposed,
exposed some weaknesses in the past.
And you know for sure we haven't reached the level yet of where
those are absolute strengths but they've improved massively.
So we're looking forward to seeing how he he will do in
those tests and hopefully he will not be close to the cut
line. Hopefully he will not be close
to the cut line. Do you like, do you like
Yellow's chances on these workouts?
Not really, because he's not super strong.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Like like Fakowski will bail himself out by doing way better
on the cleaning jerk workout than anybody gives him credit
for. I remember I thought Fakowski
was done for and then he got like second in the world in 30
cleaning jerks and 30 bar facing burpees, which is not something
he should get second in the world in.
I don't know what his Second World but he was he had like a
top scorer. Yellow host is not that.
Yellow host is not very strong. Yellow host is a home run
hitter, but like, he's not the strongest guy.
There's not a home run on these 4 workouts.
Well I mean the home run would be the wall ball burpee one but
it's not. I just got no I know I think he
he might he'll be very good at workout one.
I think he'll be extremely good at workout one, but dude, I
don't think so, man. I think I don't.
He's going to have a really tough time.
You'd be lying to yourself if you don't have something going
on at all points of the season, and I think the obvious one here
is Tia. We're just trying to figure out
what's happening with her, but her trajectory since the Open
has been nothing but good. But you get into that world,
right? Where if you're the sixth time
fittest woman on Earth, you want to win quarterfinals.
Like no matter what, and even if you just came off an injury or
if you're coming off from having a baby, she wants to win.
But it's going to be up to us this year.
Kind of hold her back a little bit because she just needs to
get through this week. Everything injury wise with the
rest of the athletes, there's absolutely nothing serious that
we're worrying about it all right now people just have the
typical wear and tear of the season going on.
Yeah, I'm, I'm just going. To Fergie show frog grips taking
down Tia. I don't know, maybe watching too
much. Hiller, do you buy that?
Do you buy that? Tia is where she needs to be.
She could actually destroy everybody, but they're going to
hold her back. I don't know, man.
We'll, we'll see. That she finished top ten in the
world in quarter finals. No, it's a lot of front rack,
man. It's a lot of front rack.
Yeah. Hurting that wrist.
And she doesn't have to. But the hard part is you don't
know where everybody else is going to be.
I guess you can compare against Maddie and Sydney.
Well, like Liz, I think she'll be really good at the burp.
I'm sorry I didn't read the noise.
The top ten in the world guys not in her region, the I think
she'll go really hard on workout one and two and kind of see
where she's at. You know what I.
Mean. If you do out of order, it's
pretty tough. To yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like, I think she'll like those two are the ones that she
should push just to evaluate her engine.
Right. Or her fitness.
She knows she's going to be strong enough.
She knows. You know, like she could
probably go Rep to Rep with Brooke on the.
I'm not worried about anything other than possibly workout four
at the top end doing cleaning jerks.
But again, it's not the like you said, it's not the hot, it's not
heavy enough but it could be if her if her wrist is really
bothering her and then workout three with the handstand push
ups. Yeah, but like the snatches at
85? Not an issue.
The wall ball's not an issue. It's really the handstand push
ups and the ring muscle UPS and then possibly the cleaning jerks
if it was really bothering her. But fitness wise I don't think
she has an issue. He now talks about our Aussies.
I tell you, those 3 Aussies right now, Tia Jay and Maddie
are, I mean, they're a different breed.
Like, I haven't been around the three of them training at full
capacity ever before. And Maddie specifically, she
came with us last year and she was coming off a missed Games
appearance. She did OK at semifinals, but
nowhere where she wanted to be. She wasn't with us yet.
She saw what happened with Jay, she came on with us fully and
she's been here for six weeks now and she's a night and day
different athlete. Same with Jay.
Jay just keeps impressing us every single week he's in the
gym, something's getting better with him.
So I think it's going to be an absolute dogfight with him and
Ricky. Obviously, I know they're both
excited about him. They've competed against each
other before, but we're honestly for Jay, we're looking at the
games at this point, like what can he do at the games to get
even better than he did last year?
I think Jay Crouch can be a top five this year.
No shot. Man, no shot, OK?
None. None.
OK, Nope.
I don't know. I think he's a a dark horse top
five this year. Are we getting off on Tevon's
time? Are we going over?
No. We're going to get off right at
right at 8:00. Emotions over the last week or
so, then, have you been like mourning?
Have you been celebrating? Is it a mix of both?
It's a. Mix of both, I'd say, because
because I've had, I've been struggling like on a personal
level, the business, I mean, it's great, like there's been
some amazing accomplishments. But to be honest with you, it's
been hard working kind of on my own.
I've had a great team working with me.
But when I'm talking about more on the international level, like
going to competitions, taking care of athletes, taking care of
the overview of the business, I've been on my own for so long
that I just needed to be part of a team.
So I'm personally, I'm really happy about it.
I've mourned over the last, you know, four months.
So the emotions of sadness are almost all gone there.
You go. Little background on Deca going
over to HWPO. She needs a team.
There's a bunch more. I would recommend you guys go to
coffee pods and wads. Go check out all of the press
conferences that Pedro hosted. There's a lot more information
in there. Gets into some pretty good
stuff. Make sure you go check that out,
all right. We definitely have to get to
some blind rankings, so. This is just me.
That's gonna be you so. Oh man.
This this will be this will be interesting maybe to to draw
upon the comments we'll. See, I'm gonna go with my gut no
matter what. I'm not influenced by these
people. We'll we'll see how good you are
on your own. Let me I changed this up here.
Tyler's always dragging me down. First of all, manta sleep.
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Save 10%, Use it every night. So, all right, here we go.
This one's pretty appropriate. The topic is quarters jeopardy.
OK, I don't know what that means, but.
It is which athletes are most in jeopardy of doing poorly at
quarter finals and not advancing to semi.
OK, sounds good. Let's do it.
All right, here we go. First one yellow hosta. 1.
One that's fast, decisive. All right, now these are people
who have made semi finals, right?
Yes, they are all. I think they're all games,
athletes. All right, good.
You can't pull a. It's not some random, it's not
Jon Young. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy's,
that guy's over 1 / 1 then. All right, here we go.
Next one, Alex Carone. Is he healthy?
He hurt his PEC at Water Palooza doing the dips, and then he
finished out for the team competition for Mayhem.
So four I would. That was a couple months ago. 4.
All right, so these are again most likely to not qualify for
semifinals. All right, next one.
Amanda Barnhart, 33. No.
Trying to get myself like a. Little bit of a buffer.
Yeah, I'm trying to like have options.
All right, here we go. You got two and A5 left.
James Sprague. Oh, easy money five.
That's great. This is great.
Unless, unless this person's
like Dallin or something like then then it's then it's not
great. But.
No, I think what this is going to show is that Tyler is the one
that messes up. Brooke Wells.
For you guys. Brooke.
And it's not Brooke. It is a female.
Though I think you'll say you nailed this one, Bethany Flores.
Sounds good man. Put her at two number two.
I think she will murder workout too though.
I mean if you go back on her Instagram, she has been dealing
with some serious back injuries. If I could have gotten if we had
enough time, not pass you guys off not get you to savant show
Perrin was talking about like they're pretty much going to
take a a run at it and see how it goes.
But they're. I don't I'm not sure they're
most confident about it. I.
Well, like Bethany's so hard because like Bethany, Bethany
might be like top ten games level fit.
She's just never healthy, right? Not her fault, but it's just the
case. It is what it is.
Yeah, she got, she got screwed over in 21.
That would have been her year, I think, and that would.
Have been. That would have been her best
year for sure. Yeah, that that was it.
Yeah. I think Yella and Bethany are
probably the two that are at most risk.
Bethany because of injury, only Yella because it just doesn't
line up for him. Amanda.
Because of her shoulder, I. Think I nailed this blind
rankings. Yeah, James was an easy one, but
I was hoping you didn't have a 5 left.
You're running out of options. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I hope you.
I was hoping you have to put him somewhere else and and kind of
get you all right and we'll run through the workouts real quick
here. Bent with the boys.
Just the two of us. Taylor versus the world real
quick in one minute, who wins workout one?
Dal and pepper. I'm going Dal and pepper two
workout 2 burpees and wall balls.
Bro down on pepper. Go with the Burke.
Be King, Colt Mertens. Work out three gymnastics.
Taylor South, I'll. Go with Taylor and work out for
a whole bunch of cleaning jerks. It's a hard one because I want,
I want to pick hopper, but I'm going with down on pepper.
I'm, I'm on the down. Pepper train three out of four.
Oh, man, I I can't. Yeah.
Dallin Pepper. Sorry.
Sorry, Jason. Sorry.
Orgout 2 I have no idea to and you picked you picked Colton.
I picked Colton. Orgout 2 literally could be
anybody. I in my in my.
Opinion I could easily see it be Taylor wins 2, Colton wins two,
or I mean Dallin wins two and Colton wins 2.
Yeah, I could 100% see it being that I I just, I think Taylor's
best shot is workout three. I think he knows that and I
think he will. I think he's, you know, Taylor.
When Taylor gets determined, he's hard to bet against.
Yep, Fond Dahl, CEO. Also go to Heat One.
You'll be able to make your picks for that.
Win $2500 on the spot before we leave.
Last question, does Taylor Self qualify for semifinals?
Yes. There you go, it's easy.