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Double waffled up in your. 
There it is. 

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Double Waffle, John. 
Is that how do you guys eat 

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waffles? 
Not like that with a damn fork, 

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you freaking. 
Well, I think we're live. 

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So John is starting to show off 
pretty solidly. 

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Good evening everybody. 
Wednesday, November 29th, got a 

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couple couple things to talk 
about today. 

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We got the Down Under 
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weekend down in Wollongong, 
Australia. 

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So we'll walk through the 
athletes, do some previews and 

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walk through the the the 
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Maybe get some some guesses as 

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to who will do well in that. 
We'll then talk about only 

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lifting in CrossFit 
competitions. 

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Are we seeing too much of it? 
And then we'll wrap up with some

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PFAA and the WZA. 
So thanks for joining. 

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Where's Rambler? 
Is is Jr. 

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Rambler. 
He worked too hard today. 

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There was too much going on. 
I know there's been a lot of 

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shows on today. 
Hopefully everybody caught 

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Pedro's, Pedro's new show. 
That was a good one. 

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I think he's a a friend because 
when I was on Savant's show 

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today, Rambler did not show up 
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So he's like, I don't know if 
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was a supposedly Rambler is also
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Yellow was a character in 
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he wouldn't show up until you 
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So. 
Jr. man three times he's beat 

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him here so. 
I don't know if that's something

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that you should strive for. 
Jr. 

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Beat Rambler on that J Rs Here 
to win no matter what it is. 

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What if Jr. is Rambler? 
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I think he's out for. 
Randy, he's got a split 

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personality and we have bigger 
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All right, down under 
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Wollongong, we got some athletes
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due to a hernia. 
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lower leg injury. 
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But we still do have a a pretty 
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women's side. 
So want to walk through that and

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then kind of walk through the 
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So 22 men, 20 women are in the 
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Jake Douglas and Emily Deroy are
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in the 2023 CrossFit Games as an
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And then we also have seven men 
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final competitions, not just in 
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Christina Liva Todakis from 
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kind of the roster, the main 
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the running. 
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did in 2023, but Jake Douglas, 
Peter Ellis, Kim and 5th and 

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Zach Thomas and 7th, Isaac 
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Bear, Healy and 14th. 
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Deroy, Christina, Liva Dukakis. 
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pronounce her name, but she got 
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Maddie Sturt, Grace Walton, 
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Annika Greer, Amy Kringle and 
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Taylor Williamson. 
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you also have Marty Sykes. 
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Australia that competed. 
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has quite a few bigger names 
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a little bit of a change. 
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and Spencer Panchak, but now 
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other guys who are local to 
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Noah Olson, Chandler Smith and 
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hombres. 
That's such a great name. 

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And Jay Crouch, Bailey Martin 
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Grips. 
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Is it bad that the team is more 
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Teams are more exciting than the
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No. 
This is what Tyler wants, Tyler.

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Wants. 
I love it. 

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Like he wishes America was like 
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He wishes the Games was like 
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Yes, it would be. 
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you get to the individual side, 
the the team side, who who do 

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you like better in this one? 
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What do you I mean, what do you 
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I think I would say the hombre 
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Unfortunately, I would love the 
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grips, but I mean, Noah Olson 
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they're very, very good together
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they picked Tola and like Royce,
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So it's like Jay and Bailey 
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Well, Tola's stronger. 
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that Royce is good at, Tola is 
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very strong. 
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his hands and extremely strong. 
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fitter individual, but he's not 
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I just think they work together 
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seen the other three guys 
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between them too the whole time 
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that's what they are as far as 
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I would rather them win the Noah
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Chandler are going to win. 
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better, I think you had. 
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Chandler being really, really 
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enduringly fit. 
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fitness machine, whereas the 
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kind of closer together. 
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stylistically similar and I 
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that on a team, though. 
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other because then you're going 
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If you're going to be a bad in 
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It well, it then that comes down
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Right. 
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to be one event where like, you 
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Yeah, you got Homer hitters, you
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any of these teams finish 
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event? 
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I mean, is it literally Who wins
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Yeah, I think, I think Hombre 
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second in 90% of the events. 
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Joel Molina Mullinena? 
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If that team, if like they're 
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Like if Johan and Joel are both 
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every single event except maybe 
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to be and it's just going to be 
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three of the guys on the team 
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We get this every time. 
Bailey's from New Zealand. 

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Guys, it's all the same. 
You're all the same. 

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No one's here. 
It's like Hawaii. 

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I did find out last night. 

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Sorry, New Zealand. 
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Vancouver is to the Games, OK? 
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podium comes from. 
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about where Watkins comes from, 
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We come from Wales, but there's 
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immigrated from Wales to New 
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a bunch of Watkins's running 
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That's funny. 
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I can see that. 
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I guess we just don't like 
England. 

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We both don't like England but. 
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So we got that going for us, 
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Linden and Jerry has Sarah. 
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daughter competed the last 
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year. 
She was at Water Palooza last 

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She's just not as fit as the 

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other girls, unfortunately. 
And yes, injuries have held her 

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back, but when she has competed,
she's not fit enough to make a 

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splash anymore. 
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meant. 
Like, yeah, she's been there, 

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she's been present. 
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We've not seen her compete like 
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I think she is competing how 
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2015 the girls weren't as good. 
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I really believe that. 
I I think you that might be 

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true. 
I mean you look at I always 

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and make it. 
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eardrum. 
And then he's just not good 

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enough anymore. 
He's not bitter like. 

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Right. 
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to see him come back every year,
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Because you're still fan 
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changed that people have gotten 
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world's doing it. 
You don't have this little 

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secret that you know about that 
nobody else knows about, which 

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was the case when Miko Salo was 
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this is really fun. 
You should go back and just pick

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a random workout. 
Like, pick a workout you'd be 

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good at. 
OK, but like one of the games 

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workouts and see what you do. 
Because 2014, I did the 2115 

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Nine Complex and I beat richest 
time. 

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Now I get it, I get it, I get 
it. 

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It's not, I'm not. 
I've done the games, He's done 

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way more than that, blah blah 
blah. 

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I know his time. 
I could pace all that stuff. 

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It's a Sprint. 
It's like a 4 minute workout, 

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right? 
And it's not a ton of 

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gymnastics, right? 
I would have broken on 

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everything, split up, split up, 
chest of R2, muscle up gap, and 

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then when I'm broken on 
everything else and I'd be Rich 

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freaking Froning and now he's 
he's fitter than me. 

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He's fitter than me in 2014. 
I'm not saying anything like 

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that, but go back. 
That's what I'm saying is the 

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field is is so much worse back 
then than than it is now. 

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Even to 2015, then to 2016. 
Like, I know there's there's 

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different kind of eras and I 
think probably this era would be

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2021 to 2023 because we had a 
weird COVID 2019 in 2020, yes. 

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60% of the men have won the 
CrossFit Games from that year. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Crazy stat, right? 

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Yeah, it is a crazy stat. 
That's kind of cool though. 

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But you kind of see the I I 
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2020. 
But you should go back and do 

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some of those events, Tyler, 
just to see, just to see how you

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do 'cause I think it'll, I think
you'll surprise yourself. 

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Yeah, I used to. 
I used to do them every year. 

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But that was when like in 2014 
that was terrible. 

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So I I haven't went back in a 
long time and looked, but yeah, 

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I do feel like the the jump from
2014 to 2015. 

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I remember being like in 2014 I 
was like I could see myself at 

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the games one day and then in 
2015 I was like, I will never 

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make it to the games. 
Like there was a jump in 

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professionality that year that 
was just rival by no other year.

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Even even Rich though, like got 
a lot fitter. 

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A lot fitter. 
You should try the 2159 complex.

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I bet you get top 10. 
What's the barbell in that? 

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155. 
Yeah, but what's the movement is

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cleaning jerk. 
No snatch. 

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Snatch. 
I don't remember. 

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Ryan, do you remember because I 
did this, I did this like 8 

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months ago. 
It was just stuck in my head, 

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snatched and then power cleans 
and then maybe cleaning jerks. 

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Somebody off the top of their 
head can do it. 

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I know it was pull ups, chest 
bar and bar muscle UPS. 

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Chase would be able to rattle it
off like it was. 

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There you go. 
Deadlifts. 

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Deadlifts. 
Clean snatches. 

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Deadlifts. 
Power clean snatches. 

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The deadlifts is what I forgot. 
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nothing. 
Nothing like like you never get 

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tired. 
The gymnastics are like, low 

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enough that you never I felt my 
grip 8. 

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Pull ups. 
That's what I say. 

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And like Josh Bridges, like he 
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Chester bar together. 
Nobody else did that. 

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Right. 
And and like. 

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They come down and drop. 
Yeah, and for the yes. 

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And like Camille did the whole 
thing unbroken with the 

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gymnastics, right. 
But they all split up their 

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weights a lot. 
Like you should give it a crack 

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because I bet I bet you can get 
I bet you can get sub 5 minutes.

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It'd be a good right? 
There with Noah. 

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That's not a hard. 
Because I think I did it like 

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four O 7. 
You could say you beat Noah 

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Olson in a workout. 
That'd be pretty cool. 

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Patrick Clark It's proof the 
sport is evolving. 

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It happens in every major sport.
Glad to see it happens in hours.

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If only HQ would evolve with the
athletes. 

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All that to say, Sarah's done. 
Back to our main point. 

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Back to. 
What we were doing, 

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unfortunately. 
I wish it wasn't the case, but I

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think it is the case. 
You guys disagree? 

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I I don't want it to be true, 
but I think it's true. 

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Yeah, it'll be tough. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, yeah, and. 
And oh, sorry, one more thing 

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about Sarah. 
Like, she also has a life. 

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Like, she does other stuff and 
good on her, you know? 

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But like, at a certain point, 
you have to stop entertaining 

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the idea that you're going to be
a pro athlete anymore. 

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It might be over for you, and 
that's OK. 

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You had a killer career move on.
Yeah, you're one of the fittest 

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women of all time. 
On the women's side, got three, 

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I guess more notable names, More
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Danny Spiegel, Emily Rethwell 
and Jesse Smith are California 

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girls Next Letica Gold, Brioni 
Shelley's Christy Hollard and 

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Amy Alessi and the Fit Mama's 
Club, Alethia Boone, Justine 

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Beeth and Jaylee Manzi. 
Can anybody beat the California 

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girls? 
The only people who have a 

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chance are the the fit mama's. 
I don't think so. 

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I'm saying they're the only ones
who have a chance. 

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I'm not saying it's a good 
chance. 

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To I'm on. 
I'm on the next letting of gold 

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has a chance. 
I don't know too much about Amy,

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but Christie and and Brioni are 
are pretty good. 

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I think it's more likely that 
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convincingly out front and then 
like the second and third place,

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go back and forth. 
I could see that happen. 

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I will say I haven't heard rest 
will in a in a in a while. 

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That was like a blast from the 
past. 

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Well, you're not seeing her or 
that name. 

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That name in. 
A. 

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Although vindicate makes a good 
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point. 
This proper judging. 

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Yeah. 
Maybe that's only a third of the

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equation. 
I think they'll be OK. 

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By I thought Banzilla is going 
to be on the Fit Mama's team. 

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No, she was going individual so 
she qualified through the 

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qualifier. 
She got first and then had a 

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hernia and. 
Decided. 

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I'm sorry, Caitlin. 
She said that she didn't. 

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She didn't feel it. 
She feels good when she works 

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out, but the doctor was like 
don't go to a competition and 

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you need surgery so keeps 
getting worse. 

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So do take surgery now. 
You can still come back for 

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2024, hopefully. 
I do think she would have made 

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it a lot more interesting. 
Yes, yeah. 

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All right. 
We'll walk through the workouts.

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I just kind of give some 
thoughts on it. 

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So Friday event one adapt 
outside on a beach, 15 bar 

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muscle UPS, 20 chest of our pull
ups, A1K beach run, 25 dead ball

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cleans which are I think just a 
a Heavy D ball, A1K beach run, 

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20 chest of bar pull ups and 15 
bar muscle UPS. 

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What do you like about this one,
John? 

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It's just, I mean like it's just
who wants to? 

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I mean, it's almost like, who 
wants to gamble? 

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On what part? 
From the start I think you do 

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the 15 bar muscle UPS unbroken 
and then you do like fives on 

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the chest of bar like quick 
fives, but you're resting there.

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I don't know if you got 20 chest
bar unbroken. 

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You probably do that because 
you're going to rest on the 1K 

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on the beach run. 
Not if it's all sand that'll 

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suck. 
No, no, I'm saying you're like 

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your grip, your grip, your grip 
and your pulling will rest. 20 

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chested bar is not irrelevant 
after 15 bar muscle UPS. 

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So like if you do 15 bar muscle 
UPS unbroken, which I think for 

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these ladies like, it's going to
be hard for a lot of them to do 

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that. 
After the bar muscle up, yeah. 

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And then 20 chested bar pull 
ups, you probably do that 

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unbroken and then the I don't 
know how heavy the dead ball is,

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but if it's like see, that's 
what. 

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I want to know. 
Yeah, if it's like 151 hundred, 

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I think whatever guy can, it's 
probably who runs the fastest. 

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I'll be honest, Whoever can run 
the fast because 1K is enough. 

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That's 4 minutes, yeah. 
You can lose you. 

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Yeah, it. 
Depends. 

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Again, it depends if it's. 
If it's soft sand, it's not 4 

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minutes. 
For what? 

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Much slower? 
Yeah. 

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So 4 to 6 minutes. 
Yeah. 

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So let's just call it 10 
minutes. 

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Like 10 minutes of running and 
it's 5 minutes of total work, 10

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minutes of running. 
So I mean like the most time 

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it's made-up on the run. 
I think if anybody can do 25 

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unbroken dead ball cleans for 
instance, like if it's 150 and 

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Jake Douglas can just do 25 
unbroken like it'll hurt but. 

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So the the dead ball cleans are 
70 kilograms, 50 so 100 and 

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5550. 
Five. 

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It's a heavy for the ladies, 
isn't it? 

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Heavier. 
Yeah. 

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Compared to the men, probably, 
yeah. 1:35, 1/31/32 1:32 it says

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60 kilograms for the ladies in 
the comments that is 110 is the.

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Weight It's 5070 and 50. 
Per competition quarter. 

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So yeah, I mean, I think if you 
can go 25 dead ball cleans 

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unbroken, they're just touch and
go. 

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You can knock those out if 
you're really, really strong 

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like Dan, I know Danny's 
people's not competing, but like

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I this is like a workout where 
she could be behind and then I'm

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going broken on those and be 
ahead of everybody and then end 

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up top five, right? 
And then after the other beach 

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run, you see who can hang on to 
those bar muscle ups. 

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I I think doing the bar muscle 
ups unbroken on the last 15 is 

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going to be huge. 
I don't think very many people 

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will be able to do that. 
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think. 

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It all come down to gamesmanship
because it's like OK you can't 

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win the you can't win this event
on the dead ball. 

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Like you can lose it if you go 
too fast but you cannot win it 

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like you can only go so fast. 
And again like like you said, it

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just really comes down to the 
beach run and then when you get 

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back to the bar, like you got to
see where you are, how much time

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because it's like if you can 
take a quick rest between 10:00 

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and 10:00 on the chest of bar, 
you can probably go unbroken on 

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the bar muscle UPS. 
I think I go fives on the chest 

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of bar on the second one 2GO 
unbroken on the bar muscle UPS. 

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Yeah, I think you have to go 
unbroken on the bar muscle UPS 

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and it's just about pushing the 
chest of bar. 

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You don't have to, but the 
winner will. 

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But I think if you want to win 
you, you have to. 

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Those chest of are just there to
juice you up. 

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They're not there for anything 
else other than to juice you up.

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How How does Jake Douglas do on 
this one? 

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I don't think he does well does 
this. 

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I actually think this might be 
his worst event. 

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Does it prevent him from winning
it? 

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Is this the one workout, like a 
Gee situation where he's far 

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enough down the leaderboard that
he can't come back? 

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No, because it's not it's. 
Athlete pool. 

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Yeah, I like, I think the the 
second best guy who who honestly

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might be the first best guy who 
who do you have second? 

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Can you can I see the guy's 
roster again? 

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Because I think I had the win. 
My winner was not. 

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No, that's not who I was 
thinking of. 

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I think Luke Dehong's going to 
be really good. 

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He was really, really good. 
Like two years ago. 

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Up and coming athlete. 
And then and then. 

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I don't know. 
He either got hurt or something 

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happened to him. 
But there was like a year break 

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for him. 
But I think he'll be better than

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a lot of people think. 
Luke Dehong, I'm home. 

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I'm saying that right? 
But yeah, I I don't think Jake 

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Douglas wins overall. 
Yeah. 

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I don't know. 
I don't know enough about the 

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the Australian field to 
pontificate on that, but I would

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say he's still, like, he's still
top three. 

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There's no way he falls that 
far. 

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Like, even even if he gets hurt.
I know, Yeah. 

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No, I can't see him not getting 
top three. 

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Oh, you're talking about in this
event, top three? 

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No. 
No, no, no no, no, no overall. 

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The total, Yeah, I I feel the 
same. 

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I don't think he doesn't get top
three, but I think he was lucky 

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to make the games last year 
there was a Max snatch in the 

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semi finals and then there was a
185 snatches before a run in the

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semi finals. 
I think the semi finals stacked 

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up really well for him and then 
he back doored it in, you know 

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what I mean? 
So, and I don't think, I think, 

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yeah, like I think I would not 
be surprised if Zach Thomas won.

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I would not be surprised if 
Peter Ellis won. 

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I think either one of them two 
could get ahead of him. 

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Even Isaac, Isaac, Isaac Newman.
Yeah. 

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I I like that you pulled this up
because like do you think he 

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fares better in workout one and 
semi finals better than he does 

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this workout? 
100%. 

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Just because it's same that. 
Yet another sled. 

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Oh yeah, Body pulling. 
The workout one was pulling up 

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the sled. 
Well, not not in Oceana, like 

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everybody did very. 
No, I know, I know the sled was 

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lighter in Oceana, but he still 
has an advantage pulling that 

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sled other other people. 
He still pulls it faster than 

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other people. 
No, John, no context. 

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Just no. 
Taylor, when you make a 

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prediction that's better than 
mine, then you can start talking

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because I don't think you ever 
have once. 

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You just disagree with 
everything. 

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Taylor never plays. 
Because he know he doesn't. 

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He knows he's going to be wrong 
about a lot of. 

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Stuff he knows he's got. 
To put it out there and be 

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willing to be wrong a couple 
times, I think this is Jake 

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Douglas worst event and it could
stop him from winning the event.

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I don't think that that's a 
relatively crazy statement at 

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all like this. 
Being I don't either, I don't 

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know what. 
I just yeah no no's just 

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ambiguous but he's heavy the 
beach run and it's like the dead

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ball cleans just just are not 
enough to to make a difference 

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in this workout as far as win 
ability so. 

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No, no. 
Especially if he has to run, he 

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has to go too much on the run to
keep up. 

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He may be slow. 
He won't gain the advantage 

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that. 
I think the better runners will 

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be in the will be the winners of
this workout. 

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One thing I did notice. 
So all of the events have a 

448
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,040
video. 
They do have written standards 

449
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,520
for all of them. 
Tyler, I know you like that and 

450
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,200
we'll get to the PFAA in a 
little bit, but is this 

451
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,720
something that we should see 
from competitions with video 

452
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,840
standards maybe in my opinion, 
to some degree, written 

453
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
standards? 
Should we? 

454
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Does it have to be a thing? 
No. 

455
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,360
Is it? 
Is it a nice professionality 

456
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:13,160
thing? 
Yeah, I would. 

457
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760
If I were running an event, I 
would strive to have these. 

458
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,840
I mean, you know. 
With video performance on the 

459
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,160
standards, when I think it's 
great 100%. 

460
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,640
I don't think it's a must have, 
but it it's it, it is probably a

461
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,480
should have. 
I mean, think about like Crash 

462
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,200
doesn't have the biggest budget 
in the world and they still have

463
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,280
them, right? 
Taylor, I literally said that 

464
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200
before we talked about the 
workout. 

465
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,120
And then you're going to come 
out here and say, no, get out of

466
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,200
here, bro. 
I said that before we even 

467
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,160
started talking about the 
workout. 

468
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Oh man, go eat some. 
He just likes to disagree. 

469
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:03,120
Yeah, you need some waffles. 
Event 2 On Friday on your bike 

470
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,240
27 Burpee Box Jump Overs at 2420
Inches and then we. 

471
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Didn't talk about the women. 
Do you want to talk about the? 

472
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Women talk about who on the 
women's side on on event one are

473
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:16,200
you looking forward to seeing? 
Oh, you don't? 

474
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,400
Want to say the women? 
That's my you have. 

475
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,800
He's my answer every single 
time. 

476
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,560
I'm a can you look, can you pull
up the roster every time? 

477
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,720
Because I I'm going to have to 
see the roster every. 

478
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,360
Every time. 
Are you taking Annika Greer? 

479
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,480
I'm taking Wait, hold on, I 
always get this confused. 

480
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,640
Is Amy Kringle the runner? 
Or who am I thinking of for 

481
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,280
that? 
Yeah, she's pretty good at 

482
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,360
running. 
Yes, yes, Amy Kringle's the 

483
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,920
runner, right? 
Because I know I heard another 

484
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,880
girl confused and then I like, I
don't know who. 

485
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Because remember, I made that 
wrong pick in fantasy once I 

486
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,400
ended up paying off. 
You know, Amy Kringle ended up 

487
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,880
being a pretty good pick. 
But I OK, yeah, I would say Amy 

488
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,600
Kringle wins this event. 
Georgia Pryor Georgia Pryor is 

489
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,640
also a very good runner if I'm 
not mistaken. 

490
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,120
I could see that I'm. 
Picking on a skirt. 

491
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,160
Does does Annika finish last? 
No, no. 

492
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,680
She's a bad runner. 
But the field the field is lower

493
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,880
than semi finals. 
What did she post that one time 

494
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,920
span and you were like? 
That's not good. 

495
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,720
Yes, Chris, that's who I get. 
That's who I get Mixed up is 

496
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Lucy Campbell. 
I get Lucy Campbell and Amy 

497
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760
Kringle mixed up. 
They're very similar. 

498
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,480
I can see how you could confuse 
that to herself. 

499
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,200
She'll make up Brown on the 
gymnastics, though. 

500
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520
Like, I think she's good enough 
at gymnastics that she won't be 

501
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,280
last place on on in the workout.
Taylor Williamson. 

502
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,680
I think she does. 
Good. 

503
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,840
I don't know. 
She'll do good, dude. 

504
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,560
I know she'll probably do those 
D ball cleans on broken I. 

505
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Mean she was at Mayhem, and they
were in a lot. 

506
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,680
Yeah, I just don't. 
I like it. 

507
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Anytime her or like the other 
one. 

508
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880
The other one. 
Does, does anything, does 

509
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760
anything individual. 
I'm just like, I don't know what

510
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,240
to think of y'all Andrea. 
Anytime, anytime. 

511
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,320
No, no. 
I know they're really good. 

512
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,640
But anytime Nestler and Taylor 
do any individual competition, 

513
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,400
everybody just assumes they're 
going to be amazing. 

514
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400
And it's usually somewhere in 
the middle. 

515
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,040
They're not amazing, but they're
all they're pretty good, you 

516
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000
know what I'm saying? 
It was top 15 in the. 

517
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,040
World, you said Nestler to pick.
Yeah, yeah. 

518
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,760
And she got like 9th at the 
individual competition she chose

519
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,480
to do. 
Do you remember which one it 

520
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,000
was? 
It was the. 

521
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Pre games before there was the 
Invitational to the the COVID 

522
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,080
games, it was that at home. 
And she got, she got like 9th, 

523
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,400
right? 
Yeah, yeah. 

524
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,880
It's to herself that year to 
well. 

525
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040
It didn't have. 
Team She wins everything that 

526
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Rogue does. 
Yeah, anything that's a. 

527
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Kind of the Queen. 
She wins more than Colton does. 

528
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,160
She's a freak, dude. 
She'll she'll do well if she 

529
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,160
doesn't win. 
Her 50 Cal echo time is like 51 

530
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,720
seconds. 
It's something. 

531
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:31,000
It's something insane. 
All right, event two. 

532
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:38,920
So the 27 burpee box jump overs 
and then 2115975 of C2 bite 

533
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,960
calories and deadlifts. 
This is something I could see 

534
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Taylor Taylor Williamson went 
in. 

535
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,600
But yes, she's big. 
She's she's tall. 

536
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,480
What's an analysis? 
Just an overall large. 

537
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,880
The Hard Hitting Analysis by 
Tyler She's big. 

538
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640
It's not. 
It's not even as bad of analysis

539
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,120
as as John just saying that 
she's going to win, I I mean. 

540
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Taylor Williams So what did this
work out? 

541
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680
Right, this. 
I just see this and think about 

542
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,640
how bad it's going to hurt. 
Like you're not going to be able

543
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400
to walk at the end of it. 
Like you're going to fall off. 

544
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Like you're going to drop the 
deadlift and just collapse. 

545
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
At the end, how fast? 
How fast are you getting through

546
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,760
those burpees? 
A minute. 

547
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,320
Minute and 1/2. 
I think you can do it in a 

548
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,640
minute. 
And then 2159? 

549
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,280
So I don't think they're going 
to be sprinting it. 

550
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,640
So I I yeah, a minute and 1/2 is
probably more the right call, 

551
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,680
'cause I wouldn't. 
You're not going to Sprint the 

552
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,200
burpees and then you're just 
going to go very, very hard on 

553
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,920
the bike and the deadlifts 
probably really hard on the bike

554
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,960
and the deadlifts are just very 
smooth and controlled. 

555
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,360
So this is a 12 minute time cap.
Are we Are you guys 

556
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,960
underestimating the time it's 
going to take to do this? 

557
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,840
I don't know how. 
Long a bike's going to take like

558
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,960
each one of those bike segments.
It's not going to take super 

559
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,200
long, right? 
And then so it's just all 

560
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,640
deadlift. 
I don't know dude. 

561
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,800
I think. 
I think 8 minutes. 

562
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,400
I'm. 
Doing the math. 

563
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Taylor, now's your time, now's 
your chance to tune in, but 

564
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,320
yeah. 
There it is. 

565
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Zayn Healy. 
Yeah, but that's if you're not 

566
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,720
doing anything else, you got to 
go into something that's really,

567
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,120
really leg heavy. 
I'm going to say sub seven, sub 

568
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,520
seven. 
The winner will be sub seven. 

569
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,240
So why do you think do you I I 
would say that time cap is, is 

570
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,760
so that everybody has to get 
through it as opposed to being a

571
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,280
rush. 
Yeah, no, no, I think it's so 

572
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,720
everybody has to do it. 
This is a workout where your 

573
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,520
legs will feel pain and it like 
that fill up pain and I think 

574
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,600
they want everybody to feel. 
That thing. 

575
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,280
All the way through. 
So yeah, I think the winner gets

576
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,320
sub seven. 
I don't know. 

577
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,160
I think everybody should be done
in 10 minutes. 

578
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Ldy 2742499 Thank you Taylor 
really wants a spot on the spin 

579
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,680
cast. 
You can't after he friggin train

580
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,440
wreck the show on the last one, 
that was like me trying to ride 

581
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,080
two bulls at the same time. 
It was an absolute. 

582
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840
Please, please use a different 
analogy than that. 

583
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,520
That didn't That didn't sound 
right. 

584
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,360
If people aren't watching this, 
that's. 

585
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
I don't know what's it, what's 
going to change if they're 

586
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,400
watching it? 
I I don't know. 

587
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,240
You're right. 
You're right. 

588
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,080
You're right. 
You're right. 

589
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,480
I don't know. 
It just didn't feel good. 

590
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Zane's saying sub six. 
That's better than. 

591
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000
There's no way that it happens. 
Maybe on the guy's side. 

592
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Taylor agrees. 
Sub six. 

593
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,800
Sub six. 
That's moving, yeah. 

594
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Jake. 
Jake on this. 

595
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:20,679
Way I think there's Berby 
slowing down and then just make 

596
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:28,239
him tired for the rest of it. 
I'm just asking about Jake. 

597
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,280
I'm not. 
Saying he's going to oh, oh oh, 

598
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,760
I feel like we just want to say 
Jake for everybody because 

599
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,040
that's the only name that we 
know. 

600
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,080
I like. 
Thor what would be very similar 

601
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:46,199
to semifinals. 
Not really. 

602
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,280
Workout seven, I would say 
whoever. 

603
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Workout 7 and be the biggest. 
Which one was that again? 

604
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440
The bike and the sandbag and the
toaster bar. 

605
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,800
Isaac Isaac won it, followed by 
Peter Ellis, Zach Thomas. 

606
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Jake Thomas. 
Yeah. 

607
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,840
So I would say Isaac Newman then
Isaac Newman is going to win 

608
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,840
this workout. 
All right, guys, the reason why 

609
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160
I'm thinking, I think I this is 
this is good that you use the 

610
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,920
semi finals because it has a lot
of the semi finals guys in it 

611
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,520
from Oceana. 
I like, I like this. 

612
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Everything is not going to have 
a one to one correlation, but 

613
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040
you think about the guys that 
did great in that workout, Roman

614
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,680
Hopper, Dallin, how do you think
he was doing this workout? 

615
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Right. 
This is a Sprint workout where 

616
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,760
you could pump on the bike hard.
Everybody who, everybody's going

617
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,960
to be able to do the deadlifts 
semi unbroken should be 

618
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,560
unbroken. 
It's just going to hurt. 

619
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,320
I think everybody will do the 
work, the deadlifts unbroken. 

620
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,040
But so yeah, I think this, I'd 
say Isaac Newman. 

621
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,640
The only thing I would say is 
that if you're a smaller person,

622
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,800
like on the lighter side, like 
more of a gymnastics person, 

623
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,760
it'll help you because you're 
going to go into, you can go at 

624
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400
the burpees at faster rate and 
you'll go into the bike less 

625
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,400
tired than somebody big. 
It's a Sprint, man. 

626
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,480
You're not going to be tired. 
Well, I guess it's not. 

627
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,920
It's 8 minutes. 
It's not a Sprint, but I still 

628
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,960
think, I still think it's not 
going to help the the the bike. 

629
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,680
The bike and deadlift is the 
majority of the time everybody's

630
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,120
going to do. 
You're not going to Sprint those

631
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,160
27 burger. 
Why do you think? 

632
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Why do you think they put it 
there? 

633
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160
It was only to pre fatigue your 
legs so that the. 

634
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,960
I agree, I agree. 
But it just makes the power 

635
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,960
output guys have more in an 
advantage. 

636
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,520
I think it's not going to take 
their power output advantage 

637
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,280
away. 
It's the only like that's the. 

638
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,240
Only I'm not saying that, 
Taylor, I'm out to X, I'm about 

639
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,240
to rinse you off here. 
OK, Where you can't comment 

640
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:38,600
again. 
All right. 

641
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,560
I just said the opposite. 
If you say one more thing that I

642
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,440
didn't say, I'm going to block 
you from comment. 

643
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,240
The thing that makes this better
is I can read it in his voice. 

644
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440
My point is, I don't think it's 
going to make the big guys tired

645
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,320
because nobody's sprinting them,
which we just. 

646
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,640
Said I I could see it as a trap,
like the the first round of the 

647
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,440
bike was in Event 7 of 
semifinals, like how fast Roman 

648
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,720
went out, like it's a trap. 
Like just get get them done. 

649
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,760
Don't Sprint through it because 
otherwise you're going to sit 

650
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,240
there and struggle at the end. 
Right. 

651
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,240
Or we're. 
All wrong. 

652
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:25,440
And that's the only way you win 
it. 

653
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,920
Please, somebody take that 
tactic. 

654
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,280
We want to see what? 
Happens, we'll see. 

655
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,800
Just go out and finish those sub
sub one. 

656
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:38,200
Go for it. 
Three event, three Saturday 5 

657
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,080
minute AMRAP, 40 calorie ski, 6 
rope climbs and then in the 

658
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,560
remaining time Max overhead 
squats. 

659
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,960
Gosh, this is this is rough. 
That's a neat workout. 

660
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,840
So you're going to have a little
over 2 minutes of overhead 

661
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,960
squatting. 
Do you think? 

662
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,320
I mean, man, it's going to be 
hard to hold that bar after 

663
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,440
that. 
Everything's going to be 

664
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,040
fatigued core. 
Think about that. 

665
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,320
You can overhead squat for 2 to 
2 1/2 minutes. 

666
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,080
No, I mean. 
I know that. 

667
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,840
What I'm saying. 
Like I'm just saying, you got to

668
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,160
get it into position every time 
you drop it, so it's almost 

669
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,680
worth it to Max out, right? 
Like, I don't know if it's worth

670
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,480
it or not, whether they, like, 
just do fives or this is 

671
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,880
something I think Jake Douglas 
can win, just 'cause I think he 

672
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,120
can. 
The bar will feel better 

673
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,680
overhead. 
I think he can just overhead 

674
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,080
squat better than that, but he 
knows. 

675
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,200
And it's not really like there's
just going to be a pace that all

676
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,760
the guys have to do. 
Like you can't win it on the 

677
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,520
first two parts again, but you 
can lose it. 

678
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,880
And it's like everybody's going 
to go with relatively probably 

679
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,120
the same pace on that. 
And then it's just who can hold 

680
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,680
the overhead squats. 
So yeah, I like Jake. 

681
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,520
I. 
This one I think I like this 

682
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
one. 
My only question is, I wonder if

683
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,320
they'll have required breaks to 
walk to walk down the field. 

684
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Right. 
It's like. 

685
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,360
A procession of reps on the on 
the overhead squads. 

686
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Yeah. 
I hope not. 

687
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,280
I hope it's just staying in 
place. 

688
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,720
It'd be hard to know who's 
winning, though. 

689
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,760
That's my only thing. 
That's true. 

690
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,320
OK. 
I see it from a production 

691
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,440
standpoint. 
I like that. 

692
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,120
But that answers your question 
like if it is a handful up, here

693
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,760
it is. 
Zane. 

694
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,560
You have to move the bar every 
five reps. 

695
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,480
I don't mind that you guys don't
like that. 

696
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,240
I mean, it's going to test a lot
of guys just to see if they'll 

697
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,480
hold on. 
I don't think I would hold on on

698
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,120
any of them, like do the five 
and then and then move like drop

699
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,120
and move versus like do the 
five, hold it overhead and go. 

700
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,240
There's no way, right? 
No, you don't do that. 

701
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,720
You could take it back to your 
back, walk, and then go back. 

702
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,800
I always forget about the back, 
the backdrop. 

703
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,960
I always I'm mixed on that. 
Like you think about events, 

704
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,080
event six with the overhead 
squats at semi finals and they 

705
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,880
had the two sets of 10. 
I would have rather seen them 

706
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,480
have to you know, somebody try 
to hold on for all 20 and fail 

707
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,280
on #19 'cause they didn't have a
break. 

708
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,320
But by moving the bar up, you 
know where people are. 

709
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440
Comparatively I. 
It's such a long time domain. 

710
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,440
I think you just do five and 
then put it down your back, walk

711
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,640
up and then jerk it up and then 
do 5, put it on your back. 

712
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,360
You probably can last a really 
long time doing that because you

713
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,400
get to rest a little bit every 
time you're transitioning. 

714
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,480
I don't think you might not make
it 2 1/2 minutes, but but you 

715
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,240
can probably make it a really 
long time. 

716
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,920
You know who would be really 
good at this one? 

717
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,840
I'm, I think Gracie Walton will 
be really good at this one. 

718
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,400
But freaking Annika Greer 
probably has the greatest 

719
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,680
overhead cycle rate out of 
everybody. 

720
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,520
Like I think of like Colton 
Merton's. 

721
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,960
This is a workout that he could 
come out and win and nobody 

722
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,640
really picked him for. 
But just because his squat cycle

723
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,960
rate is so fast and that's 
literally going to be half of 

724
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,560
the AMRAP, a little less than 
half of the AMRAP, almost half 

725
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,240
of the AMRAP. 
Like, I think somebody like 

726
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,480
Annika Greer can come out and 
win this and it'd be really 

727
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,240
shocking to everybody. 
I may be totally screwing this 

728
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,280
up, but didn't she suck at a 
rope climb event though? 

729
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,600
I mean, yeah, I may be it's. 
A legless rope climb event. 

730
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,000
If these are regular rope 
climbing, it's not like it's 

731
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,520
legless. 
So Julia Hannaford, Grace 

732
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Walton, Emily Deroy. 
Of those competing on the Max 

733
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Snatch during semifinals, I 
think it's probably a pretty 

734
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:59,040
good correlation to what we'll 
see The men's side, Jake 

735
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,760
Douglas. 
There's Johan Roberts. 

736
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,080
That's on Ricky's team with 
Isaac Newton. 

737
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,600
Newman. 
Newman He has to be tired. 

738
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,560
Of that he didn't invent 
gravity. 

739
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,800
And neither did Isaac Newton. 
Look how much, look how much how

740
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,960
much bigger Jake's snatch is 
compared to. 

741
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,240
Yeah, Isaac, I I yeah. 
No, no, I agree. 

742
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,360
I think I would take Jake 
Douglas in this event. 

743
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,680
I probably would take Gracie 
Walton and then and with for the

744
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,480
women. 
I just would not be surprised if

745
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Annika Grier comes out and 
smokes everybody. 

746
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,280
Especially with six of them. 
What the What was the top weight

747
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,120
for the women on the snatch in 
in in Australia? 

748
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,600
What was that? 
What was the top weight for the 

749
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,040
women in Australia for the 
snatch 190. 

750
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Julia Hanover, 190 OK Monica is 
180. 

751
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,360
They're so I she's done more 
than that. 

752
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,720
That was in the semi final 
though. 

753
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Yeah, yeah. 
Like, I think she just snatched 

754
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,360
200 on Instagram, her E one 
95190. 

755
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Not after a damn rope climbs. 
No, no, no, no, you're right. 

756
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,760
But it's open squats. 
It's not. 

757
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,920
It's not. 
It is different. 

758
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Right, like Colton doesn't have 
the best snatch. 

759
00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,640
I think Colton would win this 
event. 

760
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,280
Just 'cause he can clean it just
because his. 

761
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Squat rate is. 
Squat rate is so fast. 

762
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,360
It's so much faster than 
everybody else, and the majority

763
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,400
of time on this is the overhead 
squats. 

764
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,720
If you did boil it down, are you
going to ski more or rope climb 

765
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,400
more or overhead squat more? 
If you're overhead squatting 

766
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,760
more the than the other two 
movements, Annika Grier has the 

767
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,720
same squat rate that Colton 
does. 

768
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,160
Well, let's think about. 
Relatively, relatively. 

769
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:49,800
And I'm just thinking of the 
sandbag workout. 

770
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,800
None of y'all said Colton was 
going to win that workout. 

771
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,640
I was the only one, and that had
that ended up happening. 

772
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,480
That's how I'm thinking about 
this workout. 

773
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,920
I'm wondering though like, so 
let's let's set her. 

774
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,320
Let's look at the other end. 
So Taylor Williamson, she's tall

775
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,800
and so the the ski and the rope 
climbs are both going to be 

776
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,040
easier for her and the weight 
isn't is probably relatively 

777
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,040
going to be lighter for her. 
So I like her for this over 

778
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,320
Anika. 
Anika, whatever. 

779
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Yeah, I honestly think that'd be
a really, really good race. 

780
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,160
But. 
Watching both of those. 

781
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Yeah, because Taylor Williamson 
should have a lead on really 

782
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,440
everybody, honestly, because 
she's going to ski faster than 

783
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,880
everybody and I don't think 
she'll be fine on the real 

784
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,400
times, you know what I mean? 
Yep. 

785
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Event 4 Hard Yakka 20 Minute 20m
Hanson Walk 20m Slalom Hanson 

786
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Walk ten single arm kettlebell 
snatches on each side. 120 meter

787
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,760
dual kettlebell farmers carry 
another ten single arm 

788
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,640
kettlebell snatches. 120 Dual 
kettlebell farmers carry another

789
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,600
ten single arm kettlebell 
snatches and then it go back 

790
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:12,120
through the handstand walk. 
This is a different 120. 20 

791
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:18,080
meters, 60 feet, so 100 and. 
I wish Bailey Martin. 40 Mark 

792
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,840
would be a good one to watch. 
I'm going to pick. 

793
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,880
I think Peter Ellis will win 
this on the men's side and I 

794
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,560
think Emily Deroy will win on 
the women's side. 

795
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,280
I think they're just the best 
handstand walkers in the group 

796
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,920
and that's what I'm basing that 
off of. 

797
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,600
That's it. 
Start got start. 

798
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,480
Do you think the handstand walk 
is the the signing factor on 

799
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,800
this one? 
I think the last bit of it will 

800
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,400
be. 
I think all that other stuff is 

801
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,680
tiring you out for the last part
of the handstand walk. 

802
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,480
The last, because it ends on 
that too. 

803
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,720
I mean, the whole thing is just 
terrible on your shoulders. 

804
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,360
Yours. 
It's well, So what? 

805
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,120
It's 53 LB Kettle bells for the 
women and 70 LB. 

806
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Kettle bells for the women. 
For the men 120 meters it's it's

807
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,280
I mean that's that's no that's 
long but you can run most of 

808
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,480
that like I I you can run the 
1st 120 unbroken if you wanted 

809
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,720
to. 
I don't I really think most of 

810
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:27,640
them will be fine on that it is 
far but I just did a 400 meter 

811
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,800
carry with the 70s and I would 
not unbroken but like I ran half

812
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,640
of it before I put the before I 
put the kettle bells down. 

813
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,400
So I think most of them will be 
OK on the 120 meter dual 

814
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,000
kettlebell carries and then 
they're not going to struggle on

815
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,560
the 10 single arm snatches. 
I just don't you know what I 

816
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
mean I don't think they're going
to struggle so I think it'll 

817
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,200
come down to the handstand walk.
They're all really fit right. 

818
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,600
And so I just think the best 
handstand walkers will come out 

819
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,240
on top. 
Who has better hair than he 

820
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,360
does? 
That's hard. 

821
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:11,080
He's got great hair. 
So it looks like the slalom is 

822
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,120
unbroken. 
Sections of it are unbroken. 

823
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,000
Or just the whole thing. 
I don't know. 

824
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,240
Oh yeah, See, I don't think 
slalom is all that challenging. 

825
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:23,200
Like you don't have to be a 
great handstand market to be 

826
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,040
able to slalom. 
No, I. 

827
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Don't think it's that much 
different, no. 

828
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,120
I mean, I guess. 
Originally thought it was the 

829
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,000
things that Jr. had at Crash 
where you had to step over the 

830
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,440
things. 
I think that would be better. 

831
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,840
I did like that. 
I thought that was a new twist 

832
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,160
on something that we hadn't 
seen. 

833
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,520
Well, they just seemed, they 
seemed really big too. 

834
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,920
Like really big thing, really 
big to step over. 

835
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,320
Like, just big enough that it's 
uncomfortable. 

836
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:57,280
Yeah, Event 5 Crikey. 
So this is our our heavy, heavy 

837
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,200
lift. 
So basically you have a 2 minute

838
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,080
window to do 10 ring muscle UPS,
8 for the women, and then a four

839
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,400
load 3 squat cleans. 
You get the rest a minute. 

840
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Then do another 10-8 ring muscle
UPS, 2 squat cleans for load 

841
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,080
rest a minute, and then you get 
3 minutes to do another 10 or 8 

842
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,600
ring muscle UPS followed by a 
one Rep Max squat clean. 

843
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,760
You take the best. 
Yeah, so you pick your weights 

844
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:31,200
and then the score is adding up 
your best three Rep, your best 

845
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,280
two Rep, and your best one Rep 
squat clean for a total weight. 

846
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,560
I'm gonna go out, go out on a 
ledge here, OK? 

847
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,080
Risky pick. 
I think Jake Douglas wins this 

848
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,560
one. 
Yeah. 

849
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:50,760
That's probably a good pick. 
Scott, it's just the cleans. 

850
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,760
I would have liked to jerk does 
this it? 

851
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,760
Hurts Taylor Williamson a little
bit. 

852
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,840
If it was Pat, if you could just
clean it, I think. 

853
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,000
Oh, it's set a Yeah. 
Hurt power in it. 

854
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,240
Yeah. 
I still. 

855
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,160
I mean like. 
Do we there'll be a like this 

856
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:16,560
format, like are we gaining 
anything by doing this type of 

857
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,600
volume? 
I'll try to say this without Oh,

858
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120
what do you mean, just the 
competition as a whole, in 

859
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,200
general, like so far? 
Or are you talking about this? 

860
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:31,520
Event this event right like 
you're you're if you're the 

861
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,360
strongest, if you're the one, if
you're the best one Rep, squat 

862
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,560
clean. 
You're the strongest guy. 

863
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,640
You're Jake Douglas. 
Is there any way you don't win 

864
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,200
this like? 
Well, yeah, I guess the ring 

865
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,360
muscle UPS don't really like 
you're you're going unbroken. 

866
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,800
I think for everybody. 
Everybody should go unbroken. 

867
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,880
Why would you? 
On the muscle, I wouldn't. 

868
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,720
Well, yeah, I guess. 
Well, you only have two minutes.

869
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,320
That's plenty of time. 
You do 55. 

870
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,520
You could do six and four in 
literally 40 seconds, rest 40 

871
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,080
seconds and then do your cleans.
Yeah, speed doesn't matter, but.

872
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Are you going to do multiple 
tries at 3 reps on the on the 

873
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,080
squat? 
No. 

874
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,240
So I would take your time with 
the muscle UPS, take your rest 

875
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,640
and then do your cleans. 
I guess well so this, this leans

876
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,880
into what we're going to talk 
about later. 

877
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,160
So the other way of doing it was
just take out the ring muscle 

878
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,200
UPS and and it does the same 
thing, right. 

879
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,760
And I would, I think I would 
rather see something in there. 

880
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,640
I'm I'm not sure that this is 
programmed correctly, but I'm 

881
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:39,520
I'm more happy something's in 
there than not like some other 

882
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,920
you. 
Think the ring muscle UPS would 

883
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,080
affect cleaning jerks much more 
than squat cleaning? 

884
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,760
Like if you wanted the ring 
muscle UPS too? 

885
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,760
That's what I'm saying, right? 
I do think they would affect 

886
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,640
cleaning jerks just from 
overhead stability in your 

887
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,160
triceps being worked. 
Yeah. 

888
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,800
It's pointless volume. 
I like, I like. 

889
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,800
There's another modality. 
But yeah, it feels a little 

890
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,680
pointless. 
Maybe this could have been 

891
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,880
programmed better. 
And I mean, if it is pointless 

892
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,360
volume, then then you would 
rather it not be there because 

893
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,240
then we get to see freaky 
numbers, you know what I mean? 

894
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,080
Like if the strongest still 
winds cool, but we didn't get to

895
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,280
see the crazy of the craziest 
numbers because of the ring 

896
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,560
muscle UPS, right? 
But this shouldn't affect 

897
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,160
anybody. 
What's a better What's a better 

898
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:29,800
workout? 
Jr. 

899
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,160
Go. 
Well, we can talk about this 

900
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,480
when we get to our next topic. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

901
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,160
I I just, as I was reading 
through this, I I felt like well

902
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,440
if you're the strongest one like
you're going to win anyway. 

903
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Like are we just doing volume to
do volume? 

904
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,120
It's just there to piss Jake 
Douglas off. 

905
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:50,840
Why? 
Why? 

906
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,320
Why? 
I guess it does weed out someone

907
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,720
who's bad at ring muscle UPS, 
but it. 

908
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Doesn't matter. 
There's no, but yeah, there's no

909
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,280
way that like they are there if 
that's true. 

910
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,440
If you can't get through those, 
you probably shouldn't be in the

911
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:12,120
elite, yeah. 112 off. 
That means that means one minute

912
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,520
to do your ring muscle UPS and 
cleans. 

913
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,480
So then the ring muscle UPS 
would kind of have to have to 

914
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,800
get through, not have to be 
unbroken. 

915
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,960
But I mean, you don't get to 
rest very much. 

916
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,560
Right, right. 
Because I mean this, this last 

917
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,120
one, you have 3 minutes to get 
through it. 

918
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:29,000
So like to John's point, you're 
not going to be, you're not 

919
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,760
going to be doing, you know, a 
whole bunch of one Rep squat 

920
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,880
cleans. 
And then you're just going to 

921
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,680
sit there for? 
Take your time, I put your onus.

922
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,280
On the ring muscle UPS a lot 
more, but I mean it's just if 

923
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,600
you're bad at ring muscle UPS it
lowers your Max. 

924
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,600
If you if you're good at ring 
muscle UPS, it lowers your Max 

925
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:56,720
but not by as much. 
And Taylor 21159 ring muscle UPS

926
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,920
instead of the 10. 
Got one? 

927
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:05,160
Then it's just 21159 and then he
spells it out. 

928
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,800
Thanks. 
I ain't got changes to work out 

929
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,720
entirely. 
Yeah, I like next one. 

930
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Next one Sunday catch you later 
2 rounds so 10 strict wall 

931
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,360
facing handstand push ups, 10 
dual kettlebell squats more, 10 

932
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:33,080
more handstand push ups, 15 back
squats, 10 more wall facing 

933
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:38,440
handstand push ups and 12 
squats. 2 rounds of that four 

934
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,720
time 16 minute cap. 
So none of those squats are very

935
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,160
heavy. 
I don't think they're going to 

936
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,680
play a role in everything. 
I think this is just who's the 

937
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,640
best at handstand push ups, 
shoulder handstand, push up, 

938
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,000
endurance, strict wall facing, 
handstand push ups. 

939
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,600
It doesn't change from that. 
It would have been cool if that 

940
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,960
would have been like 
progressively. 

941
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:04,240
Harder. 
I think in like 1 round, but it 

942
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:07,240
gets progressively harder on the
handstand push ups like it maybe

943
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:10,440
it into the 10 parallet 
handstand push ups, you know 

944
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,080
something like that, but. 60 of 
those are. 

945
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,840
Going to add up, yeah, I think 
at the end, especially with the 

946
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,320
shoulder demand on the dual 
kettlebell squats, even if it's 

947
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,960
just right here, and then the 
back squats, I mean, like this 

948
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,800
isn't a comfortable position. 
And then the dead ball squats 

949
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,840
like you're going to be right 
here like this. 

950
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,520
It's a lot of it's shoulder 
dominant. 

951
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,680
I mean it. 
For sure, for sure. 

952
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,360
But like I think people 
remember. 

953
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,200
Well that's the best thing. 
I don't think so. 

954
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,880
I think you just break it up. 
Do you have to wall walk this or

955
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,680
can you cartwheel into it? 
I hope it's cartwheel. 

956
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:59,050
I don't know. 
Damn, they just cut to him in 

957
00:54:59,090 --> 00:55:01,050
it. 
Oh, here it is it. 

958
00:55:01,050 --> 00:55:04,970
Looks like he wall walks, yeah. 
Yeah, but does it say you have 

959
00:55:04,970 --> 00:55:08,720
to? 
I'm sure it does, because if you

960
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,840
don't have to wall walk, do any.
I mean, cartwheeling saves so 

961
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,560
many seconds. 
Yeah, it looks like. 

962
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,400
So he's going to it each time. 
Yeah, they cut it out, but yeah,

963
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,600
it looks like he wall walks it 
out. 

964
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,760
But I think, yeah, Annika Greer,
I think it's going to smoke 

965
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,760
this. 
I think she might beat 

966
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,680
everybody. 
I'd like to know the Z score on 

967
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,600
this one because I bet she beat 
2nd place by a lot. 

968
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,240
Peace score. 
Peace. 

969
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,720
Oh, I'm sorry we changed the 
letter up. 

970
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,920
My bad, my bad, my bad. 
It's totally different formula, 

971
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160
John, come on. 
Gotcha, gotcha. 

972
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,920
All right. 
All right. 

973
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,480
Any I mean I'm going to just say
Peter Ellis again on the immense

974
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,400
side, he did the best on workout
six, you know so like in semi 

975
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,280
finals. 
So that's who I would pick. 

976
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,360
Yeah, I don't, Thor. 
I don't know how Jake Douglas 

977
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,560
will do in this workout. 
Like he's a guy that the 

978
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,240
handstand push ups might could 
get and the handstand push ups 

979
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:19,880
get if he if the handstand put 
you get you and you get 15th out

980
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,440
of 22nd guys, 22 guys. 
What you're doing poorly on the 

981
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,960
1st event, that's. 
Enormous like that, you know 

982
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,200
what I'm saying? 
I mean, if we go back to our our

983
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,080
previous event, I'm definitely 
taking Monica over Taylor now in

984
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,040
this one. 
All for the handstand push ups. 

985
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,880
She's getting a murder and it's 
not. 

986
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,560
It doesn't hurt you to be 
shorter or like not way as heavy

987
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,680
in this workout. 
Well, I know we don't. 

988
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,440
We know she's great at handstand
push ups. 

989
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,600
She's won handstand push up 
workouts before. 

990
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,120
But like the the barbell or the 
the squats aren't really going 

991
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,760
to slow you down. 
I don't think anything else. 

992
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,320
Does squatter. 
There's nothing on that that 

993
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,160
she's going to be bad at on that
event and. 

994
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Then we end with 60 cleaning 
jerks, 2 scores, 50 points each.

995
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,480
First is the 30 reps and the 2nd
is the total time. 

996
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:14,240
This is an interesting thing. 
So my prediction for this is 

997
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:19,280
Jake Douglas wins event 7 and 
then he gets 11th place in event

998
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,360
8. 
No, No way. 

999
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,840
This is his to win. 
This is his to win. 

1000
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,480
Dude, grace is not a strength 
thing at all. 

1001
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,920
At all. 
Taylor would beat me in double 

1002
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,440
grace easy. 
And then if he goes on broken on

1003
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,120
grace on the first one, then 
then we tie. 

1004
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,920
I don't know what to tell you, 
but like like if you want to do 

1005
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,760
go to an event seven, you have 
to go unbroken, right? 

1006
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,600
If you want to win event seven, 
you have to go unbroken. 

1007
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Do you need to though? 
Somebody will you know if you're

1008
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,720
a person. 
Yeah, but you only get 50. 

1009
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,560
But I It's true, you only get 50
points, so. 

1010
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,280
But I think, like enough guys, 
it's all about what everybody 

1011
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:10,160
else does. 
You know, 'cause if if like I 

1012
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,720
like Tyler probably could do 
Grace unbroken if it really 

1013
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,560
meant something to him. 
No. 

1014
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,080
Well, you. 
Don't think so. 

1015
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,760
No, I've tried. 
I Well, well, I beat her out 

1016
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,720
somewhere. 
Around I'm saying a lot of these

1017
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,160
guys can go unbroken on Grace 
and so I it's just like if 10 

1018
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,520
guys not they're like irrelevant
to the leaderboard go unbroken 

1019
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,040
on the first Grace. 
Do you not think Jake Douglas is

1020
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:42,640
going to or Peter Ellis is going
to or Isaac Newman, right. 

1021
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,120
I think, I think this is like 
you kind of kind of just got to 

1022
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,480
see what everybody else is 
doing. 

1023
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,200
I think you find, yeah, I mean 
it depends like I'm wondering 

1024
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,520
the heats now like. 
This is a really great. 

1025
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,360
This is a really weird one to do
this with because I think a lot 

1026
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,680
of guys can go unbroken in the 
7th 1:00, so it just depends 

1027
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:08,560
what who wants to. 
To me, you need to find your 

1028
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,480
your, what you're. 
I mean people are just going to 

1029
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,200
play their thing. 
So it's like, yeah, if you can, 

1030
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,920
if you think you can win the 30,
just go for it. 

1031
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,160
But like, don't do it to the 
detriment that you're going to 

1032
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,640
get last and basically just get.
Them in the pack score overall 

1033
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,680
you wouldn't but like I'm. 
You don't think so? 

1034
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,600
No. 
No, no, no. 

1035
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,080
Yeah. 
I think if you go unbroken, 

1036
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,000
you're ahead of everybody, 
right? 

1037
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,280
That doesn't. 
Maybe not by much though. 

1038
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,960
No, no, not by much, not by 
much. 

1039
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,040
But then you just start doing 
singles because that's what 

1040
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,240
everybody's going to do in 
double grace is singles, right? 

1041
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,160
30 unbroken and then 30 singles.
You're not going to be last 

1042
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,040
place on that. 
But I and I think that's what I 

1043
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,840
think we'll see a lot of people.
I think we'll see more people 

1044
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:52,240
that you think go 30 unbroken 
and then 30 singles and you. 

1045
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,080
I think this is just an 
impossible workout to win both 

1046
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,920
of them. 
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe enough. 

1047
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,760
Maybe they all try to go 
unbroken on the first one and 

1048
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,000
everybody is like in the same 
hole. 

1049
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,680
Right. 
And then it's just the fittest 

1050
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:12,120
guy can do well, you know, we'll
do the 60 cleaning jerks. 

1051
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:17,400
Dan, There's a famous video of 
Dan doing Grace in 3rd and 90 or

1052
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,520
in in under 60 seconds, right. 
But what's the top end score on 

1053
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,360
double Grace or. 
I mean, yeah, what's the, what's

1054
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,600
the best? 
Where we're going to be on 

1055
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,760
double Grace. 
So you can't. 

1056
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,920
You can't do them unbroken, so 
it's. 

1057
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,200
Oh, they have to purchase. 
They have Mats, they have a set 

1058
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,600
of 20 and then then 10/10, 
10:10. 

1059
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,680
I guess you can walk it that 
way. 

1060
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,160
OK, well then I think they all 
do 20 cleaning jerks unbroken, 

1061
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,680
and then I think they all suit 
in more cleaning jerks. 

1062
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,240
And then I think it'll go to 
singles from there. 

1063
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,280
And I just don't think, I don't 
think Jake Douglas is going to 

1064
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,840
win both of them. 
Like people are too fit 

1065
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,040
nowadays. 
If it was 155, maybe then. 

1066
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,160
But people are really, really 
fit now. 

1067
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,120
It's not just who. 
It's not who's the strongest. 

1068
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,800
On the women's side, you got 
anybody? 

1069
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,440
Grace Grace Walton. 
Yeah. 

1070
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,480
I don't know, man. 
I I I don't. 

1071
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,000
Grace or Julia? 
Dude, I think like Maddie Sturt 

1072
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,680
could come in clutch on 
something like this. 

1073
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,800
That's what I'm saying. 
Freaking Sturt, man. 

1074
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,160
Like for the 60, for the 60. 
Maybe she won't win the 30, but 

1075
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,640
I think she can win the 60. 
I think she can win one of. 

1076
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,160
Them. 
Yeah, 30, Sorry. 

1077
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,080
And I don't think she can win 
30, but I could see the 60 for 

1078
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,600
sure. 
I think Taylor Williamson could 

1079
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,280
win the 30. 
I don't know. 

1080
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,600
This is a weird one. 
I don't like this. 

1081
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,480
I don't like this workout as far
as it being like this is your 

1082
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,520
I'm I I like that it's worth 50 
points because it does feel like

1083
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,080
you got to pick one. 
It feels like that. 

1084
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,760
I don't think you do. 
I think that's dumb. 

1085
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,760
You know just, I mean you can do
20 reps and then rest and then 

1086
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,320
do 10 reps though at a slower 
rate than you would like all out

1087
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,600
I'm saying as far as to to win 
to win it feels like. 

1088
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,920
You. 
I'm just saying like it if 

1089
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,560
you're not good at. 
If you're not good at double 

1090
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,000
grace, you're not going to be 
good at the at regular grace, 

1091
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,280
Like you're not going to go out 
too hard trying to win 

1092
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,320
something. 
So like they're all going to 

1093
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,440
pace it and if Jake doesn't have
to as much, he'll win that one 

1094
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,520
and he'll be fine on the on the 
back end. 

1095
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,560
Oh. 
I don't think they're all going 

1096
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,080
to pace it, man. 
I think people are going to go 

1097
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,000
for that first one. 
I really do. 

1098
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,640
John's the guy who went for the 
first one. 

1099
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,160
And I wish it was, I wish it was
100 points each and it meant 

1100
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,120
like there was bigger swings. 
Yeah, 'cause then, then it's 

1101
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,400
legitimate. 
Like pick one. 

1102
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,280
I tell you what, who was that 
guy in 2019 that just went for 

1103
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,520
the double ringer one in the 
very first one. 

1104
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,960
He went for it and sold his soul
on the bike. 

1105
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,120
Wasn't an Australian guy, they 
like to go for things down 

1106
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,720
there. 
It was James Newberry OK, and he

1107
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,600
beat Matt Fraser in a 30/20/10 
assault bike toaster. 

1108
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,880
Ring, I'm telling you. 
Like there is a a syndic 

1109
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:26,800
mentality that Australians have,
like it's more prevalent in 

1110
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Australia than it is here. 
I know it's James Newberry, I'm 

1111
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,120
testing them. 
Chris, come on now, you don't 

1112
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,320
think I know it's James 
Newberry. 

1113
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,400
I just think way more people are
going to send it on that first 

1114
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,920
one than you guys think and 
that's going to affect the 

1115
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,800
leaderboard a lot. 
What do you think Jay? 

1116
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,640
If you're still here, Jay, can 
you tell us what you think this 

1117
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,640
would? 
This would be a great one to 

1118
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,040
have your insight on. 
Taylor must be eaten or he would

1119
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,080
have. 
He would say Maddie's going to 

1120
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,280
win. 
I picked Maddie for the the the 

1121
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:57,480
second one. 
All right. 

1122
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,920
Overall overall winner, Men's 
and women's. 

1123
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,320
Who are you picking? 
Peter Ellis. 

1124
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,840
That was my pick. 
Tyler. 

1125
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:22,120
I don't know, Jake. 
OK, it's a great analytic brain.

1126
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,240
There you got that. 
Was good, that was. 

1127
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,120
Good, I. 
Don't know enough about the 

1128
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,800
field. 
It's so hard because it's like, 

1129
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,360
I'm sure there's great people in
there. 

1130
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,920
It's just I don't know anything 
about them. 

1131
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,920
You know what I mean? 
And and the guys I do know 

1132
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,120
aren't there. 
No, no, no. 

1133
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,600
Specifically on event 7, Jay, do
you think people will send it on

1134
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,600
the 1st 30 cleaning jerks? 
That's what I'm asking because 

1135
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,440
they don't think so. 
They think everybody's going to 

1136
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,640
pace that first one. 
I think there's going to be a 

1137
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,560
lot of people that send it. 
Would Jay go unbroken? 

1138
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,320
Jay would go well. 
He can't because 20 and 10. 

1139
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,560
What do you go? 
Yeah. 

1140
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,560
I think a lot of people try to 
go unbroken and then go to 3rd 

1141
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,080
to singles on double grace. 
I think we see that way more 

1142
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,520
than people pacing the whole 
thing. 

1143
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:14,800
And on the women's side? 
I actually guys I'm. 

1144
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,320
Actually, going to say. 
Taylor I want. 

1145
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,960
I want to see Tyler go first 
all. 

1146
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,280
Right, Taylor. 
Taylor going to win it, OK? 

1147
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:26,880
Taylor's going to win. 
I have Grace Grace Walton. 

1148
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,280
Yeah. 
I really like that pick. 

1149
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,640
She's with underdogs now. 
Yeah, well, that makes me like 

1150
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:44,640
it even more. 
OK, I'll ride the train. 

1151
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:50,520
I'll go Gracie Walton. 20 and 10
so he's going all out, so. 

1152
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,360
Yeah, there you go. 
Heard from him? 

1153
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,920
I. 
Wonder if everybody goes like 

1154
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,040
that. 
I still think Jake can win that 

1155
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,480
one. 
Both of them. 

1156
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,520
I How you think he moves faster 
than everybody else because I 

1157
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,920
don't think he moves faster. 
I think he'll have. 

1158
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,800
More than a tank 5 minute 
workout. 

1159
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,040
I think he'll have more in the 
tank after that first thirty 

1160
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,360
than everybody else. 
No, but I'm saying I don't think

1161
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,760
he wins the 1st, 30. 
Yeah. 

1162
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:24,800
He's act like that's a given. 
Maybe he does, maybe he does. 

1163
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,760
I you know. 
Allegra are welcome member. 

1164
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,720
So I set up memberships. 
I haven't done anything. 

1165
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,960
I think I may have set up a 
couple emojis for it, I don't 

1166
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,760
know. 
But when when Pedro did it, I 

1167
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,960
was like, hey, I'll turn it on. 
So hop on the train. 

1168
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,360
Thank. 
Thank you, Allegra. 

1169
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,120
T Bird also prime member, I 
think. 

1170
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,160
Maybe I didn't see her. 
She's got the thing. 

1171
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,200
I don't know if that's. 
What he said, he said, he said. 

1172
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,720
Peter, Peter Ellis. 
Peter Ellis. 

1173
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,720
Yeah. 
Hey. 

1174
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:05,120
Jay, other than Maddie, who do 
you got not allowed to pick her?

1175
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,640
TuneIn. 
I don't know why it's doing 

1176
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,960
this, but I think I have AI. 
Did AI did a mountain emoji? 

1177
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:10,880
Oh. 
Did ya? 

1178
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,240
Yeah, There we go. 
Second, second topic. 

1179
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:25,160
Dubai came out with a event for 
theirs, Max Snatch, Max clean 

1180
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:25,920
and jerk. 
We don't know. 

1181
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,640
The format caused some 
discussion amongst our group and

1182
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,920
Brian Friend then wrote an 
article about are we testing one

1183
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,360
Rep Max Olympic lifting too 
often? 

1184
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,840
The stats department got in 
there pretty heavily, went 

1185
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,960
through a lot of detail on every
time a Max snatch, clean, clean 

1186
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,760
and jerk has been programmed and
kind of broke it down. 

1187
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:59,000
I mean even going to the Malaga 
throwdown in 2022, so going way 

1188
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:07,080
deeper than I would have. 
So the question is, we've seen 

1189
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,040
it at the at the Games this 
year. 

1190
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,600
We've seen it plenty of times 
before. 

1191
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,840
I think really what Brian kind 
of drew is that if you look at 

1192
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,960
the entire history of the of the
whole CrossFit Games, it's 

1193
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,640
probably not been too much, but 
we've seen it a lot lately. 

1194
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,760
Are we seeing Olympic 
weightlifting tested in a single

1195
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,319
modality format? 
Too much in your opinion. 

1196
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:38,960
Tyler my yes. 
I mean it's such I think the 

1197
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,960
clean and jar so the snatch more
so than the clean and jerk 

1198
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,000
because you can. 
Like Chandler is not a real 

1199
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,200
great technical mover, but he's 
he's good at the clean and jerk 

1200
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,240
because he can out strength it, 
right? 

1201
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,920
And essentially that's what 
those two things we're testing 

1202
01:08:54,920 --> 01:09:00,479
is strength and skill. 
And there's a point when the 

1203
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,640
skill is so specific and it 
doesn't make sense to me to be a

1204
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,319
broadly Chet tested, tested 
event. 

1205
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,319
Right? 
And there's there's so many 

1206
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,920
other ways you can test strength
that I would rather see. 

1207
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,760
And so my boat is yes, 
specifically on the snatch but 

1208
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:21,479
then also the queen and jerk. 
John, I'm interested to hear 

1209
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,439
your take. 
And one more thing. 

1210
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,640
I hate. 
I'm really bad at snatch, so 

1211
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,800
fair enough. 
The first thing I would say is 

1212
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,640
like, are we you, are you tired 
of handstand walking? 

1213
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:42,040
Because that is is there's a 
handstand walking only event in 

1214
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,279
every single competition. 
It's almost always just a 

1215
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,520
handstand walking event, 
especially at the games at 

1216
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,640
specifically at the games. 
I know handstand walking is in a

1217
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:57,280
lot of workouts, but there is a 
handstand walking specific event

1218
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,640
a lot at the games and if 
there's not then 30 ring muscle 

1219
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:07,640
UPS, like that's a single 
modality gymnastics and I and I 

1220
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,520
get mixing them around. 
I use handstand walking because 

1221
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,800
like that's the one I think 
comes up the most. 

1222
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,520
But and then what about running?
Like we do a running only event 

1223
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,920
all the time, right? 
I'm not complaining because 

1224
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,080
that's all I freaking do. 
Now I'm looking forward to the 

1225
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,800
running event at the fittest 
experience. 

1226
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,960
But guess what? 
There's going to be a running 

1227
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,680
event at the fist experience and
then there's going to be a 

1228
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,840
lifting event at the fittest 
experience. 

1229
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,240
I get. 
I get where people are coming 

1230
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:45,600
from, where it's like you only 
see a one Rep Max snatcher clean

1231
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,920
and jerk. 
Well, an Olympic lifting there's

1232
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,440
only two lifts, It's snatching, 
clean and jerk. 

1233
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,240
And you could split the clean 
and jerk up into two different 

1234
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,800
ways, the clean and the jerk, 
right. 

1235
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,520
That's, you know, if they wanted
to test power, I think that's a 

1236
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,720
way to change it. 
But you got to be real strict on

1237
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,560
your standard, you know what I 
mean? 

1238
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:07,680
Like I don't know how you like 
you. 

1239
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:13,040
We've only we only test powers 
because it's hard to hard to 

1240
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,600
see, right. 
But like overhead squat, I think

1241
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,440
that's a part of Olympic lifting
and anytime that's on a a Max 

1242
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:22,640
out thing, people don't get in a
bind. 

1243
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:28,920
I just think people get tired of
it because it's 2 lifts and 

1244
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,600
running. 
You can Sprint running, you can 

1245
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,840
run long, you can run the 
middle, you can do a mile test, 

1246
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,360
but it's still just running and 
we don't get tired of that and 

1247
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,160
I'm not tired of it. 
Either. 

1248
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,200
Yeah, but you don't. 
You don't have to put in the 

1249
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:48,200
hours to run as well as like to 
the level that is is really good

1250
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:52,880
that you do with snatch. 
How would you argue the 

1251
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,920
opposite? 
I snatched 275 within one year 

1252
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,600
of trying to snatch. 
Yes, John, and you're a freak at

1253
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,880
lifting. 
That doesn't count. 

1254
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,840
Man, what? 
There's freaks at running. 

1255
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,720
I just think there's more of 
them. 

1256
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,840
I think there's more. 
People. 

1257
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,280
If there's more of them, it 
doesn't make them freaks. 

1258
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,280
No, no, no, no, Okay, that's 
fair. 

1259
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:15,200
There are more people that are 
just natural or like take 

1260
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,680
aerobic fitness better than 
others. 

1261
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,520
Then there are people who take 
strength gains better than. 

1262
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,720
Others, and I think that's 
because of the skill, dude. 

1263
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,120
I don't think it has to do 
anything with with your your 

1264
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,400
ability to get better strength. 
It's that the ability to run is 

1265
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,040
not a hard skill. 
We're built to do that as 

1266
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,240
humans, but to do a snatch is 
not a natural movement in any 

1267
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,720
manner, and it's a very specific
skill you have to work on. 

1268
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,520
But I guess, I mean if we're 
doing a one Rep Max lift like 

1269
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,360
even your boy brawny right here 
saying we shouldn't be doing 

1270
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,360
these types of single modality 
tests whether it's running like 

1271
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,360
LDY has here, are we running, 
we're testing running too often 

1272
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:02,560
as well like as a single 
modality or should we build it 

1273
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,000
in and like we just talked about
down under like they just did 

1274
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,880
the the squat cleans but they 
have to do ring muscle UPS. 

1275
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,720
Right. 
And we and what did we say? 

1276
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,920
We said it was muscle. 
UPS were irrelevant. 

1277
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,680
But they programmed it that way.
Right, I think the idea. 

1278
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,000
I think the idea is. 
Right. 

1279
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,560
Maybe. 
Do we make it differently, 

1280
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,960
right, like you got? 
And I would argue if you did it 

1281
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,720
like how Jr. did it, it's no, 
like it is a strength test, but 

1282
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,160
it just hurts the strength 
athletes more than the 

1283
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,400
gymnastics athletes basically 
evens the playing field. 

1284
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,840
So then, right, for a strength 
test, essentially you're saying,

1285
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,320
hey, you guys that are strong, 
you don't get to be strong 

1286
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,600
anymore. 
Hey you gymnastics guys that 

1287
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,280
aren't strong here's a bone and 
I'm not saying it's wrong. 

1288
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,800
OK, before you like we like 
start arguing. 

1289
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,160
I don't necessarily think it's 
wrong. 

1290
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,440
I just don't think it's like hey
we don't need to one Rep Max 

1291
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,400
test anymore. 
Like I don't. 

1292
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:01,560
I don't. 
I think the games, I don't know 

1293
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,040
like the games did A1 Rep Max 
sandbag clean. 

1294
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,600
Is that a part of a one? 
It's a one Rep Max lifting. 

1295
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,200
Right. 
But that's tired of that. 

1296
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,280
My second question is, should we
be doing things like that 

1297
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,280
instead of like the games just 
had it? 

1298
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:22,240
And I know that maybe they've 
already been planning this the 

1299
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,320
the programming for Down Under 
before this was announced, but. 

1300
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,760
Dubai. 
For Dubai, well, no, but like 

1301
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,560
maybe the games programming. 
Dubai was programmed before the 

1302
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,560
games came out with it. 
But do we want to see Bratislaw 

1303
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,880
go do A1 Rep Max Snatch and 
clean and drink again? 

1304
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,040
Or would we rather have him lift
a sandbag or do some other type 

1305
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,720
of strength based event, whether
it's like a strong main event or

1306
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,120
something like that? 
I would argue more people would 

1307
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,560
rather see them snatch and clean
and jerk. 

1308
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,880
I mean, yeah, imagine the reels 
that are going to get created. 

1309
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,600
That's a lot. 
That's probably got a lot to do 

1310
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,800
with it. 
It's really easy, like visually 

1311
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:01,400
and sellable. 
And to me, as a a bit of a 

1312
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,200
purist, that kind of pisses me 
off. 

1313
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,800
But I think it was really 
sellable. 

1314
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,680
It was really sellable to see 
people lift a sandbag. 

1315
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,440
It may have taken Jacqueline 
Dahlstrom an entire real length 

1316
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,560
to be able to do it, but it's 
really cool. 

1317
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:24,720
Yeah, I'm just wondering if if 
should we be testing different 

1318
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,440
things for the strength piece of
it versus just clean and jerk 

1319
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:31,360
and snatch? 
I'm saying that you take away 

1320
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,640
from the clean and jerk and 
snatch if you test it for 

1321
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,160
different, it's a part of 
strength. 

1322
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,800
It's our main thing of strength.
It's hard. 

1323
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,720
To do many. 
Different things, but OK, Like 

1324
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,360
if they had like the CrossFit 
total, for instance, they had 

1325
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,640
the CrossFit total at the games,
right? 

1326
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:51,880
That's a great way to test 
strength, right? 

1327
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,560
In quarterfinals they had the 
other total, which has an 

1328
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,280
Olympic lift and then bench 
press in it. 

1329
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,080
Great way to test strength, 
right? 

1330
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,200
Sorry, there's a car out here. 
My dogs are freaking out. 

1331
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,760
And what I'm saying is I think 
we should have. 

1332
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,280
So like if you have the games or
Dubai, you can have a brute 

1333
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,320
strength way to test strength 
and then you can have an Olympic

1334
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,480
way to test strength and then 
you have things that combine 

1335
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:23,880
them, right? 
That's CrossFit, and you also 

1336
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,720
have your single modality 
running event, your single 

1337
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,760
modality gymnastics event, and 
then you combine them like, I 

1338
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,640
don't see any problem if like if
it's just the Olympic lifting 

1339
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,760
thing that you're getting 
behind. 

1340
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:42,000
Like we always have a single 
modality endurance event or we 

1341
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,280
have just a. 
Single modality, yes, not single

1342
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:51,480
movement. 
Yeah, I mean, you get running. 

1343
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:54,400
You've had Handstand Walk in the
semifinals in the past. 

1344
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,960
Yes, but those are always 
variable. 

1345
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,000
I yeah, so, so like, I think, I 
think the Olympic lifts are just

1346
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,400
less variable than those other 
two things. 

1347
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,080
But we have it in other things. 
People just don't complain about

1348
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,520
it the way they do Olympic 
lifting. 

1349
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,560
And and I think it's just 
because it's skews, I would 

1350
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,720
argue Olympic lifting skews the 
leaderboard more than those, 

1351
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,040
more than running does or more 
than handstand walking does. 

1352
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:29,480
And that's why it's like this 
shouldn't be there, but I I 

1353
01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:31,280
absolutely think it should be 
there. 

1354
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,560
If you want to make it like a 
three Rep squat clean Max, you 

1355
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,960
can make it variable like that, 
you know, Travis Mayer, three 

1356
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,720
Rep squat clean 350. 
And I've not ever seen anybody 

1357
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,840
else do that, right. 
Like, I think Jeff Adler 

1358
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,120
probably can do that, but I've 
never seen him do it. 

1359
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,400
And like, you can make it 
variable. 

1360
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,040
So like if it's one Rep Max 
that's the problem, then do an 8

1361
01:17:54,040 --> 01:18:01,480
Rep Max clean, right. 
That's really hard to do right. 

1362
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:04,600
Eight reps like touch and go, 
you are not allowed to rest on 

1363
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,280
the ground. 
That's a variable way to test 

1364
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,240
strength. 
You know, like that's how you 

1365
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,520
can make it variable. 
I don't think we should just do 

1366
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,640
away with it though, because it 
feels like we do it too much. 

1367
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:20,040
It's a part of testing strength.
I think every competition should

1368
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:21,600
have a brute way to test 
strength. 

1369
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,000
Squat, deadlift, bench press. 
Hitler made a great post about 

1370
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,280
bench press. 
I don't think we test bench 

1371
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,880
press like at all. 
Which again, I don't have a 

1372
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,880
problem with it, but or 
sandbags, A brute way to test 

1373
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,080
strength, sled push. 
We don't have to do it. 

1374
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:38,600
Pull a. 
Volkswagen do something 

1375
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,320
different than always just doing
the two lists hear. 

1376
01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:42,520
Me on, hear me on, I think 
there's. 

1377
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,080
Always Volkswagens. 
A brute way to test strength and

1378
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:51,880
then a Olympic lifting way to 
test strength because it's a 

1379
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,920
part of strength, fitness, it's 
a part of it. 

1380
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:59,400
It's a whole sport, right? 
Like, and I think every 

1381
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,760
competition should test strength
in those two ways. 

1382
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,720
And then you can test running 
and however way you want to test

1383
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,200
it, probably sprinting in long 
distance, right? 

1384
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,360
Which they always do sprinting 
in long distance. 

1385
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,040
And then if you want to test 
gymnastics, usually with 

1386
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,960
handstand walking, and then pick
your thing, legless rope climbs,

1387
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:21,240
ring muscle UPS, there's always 
a varied gymnastics specific 

1388
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,960
workout where the gymnastics is 
the crux of the workout. 

1389
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:30,360
Sometimes it's handstand push 
ups and then every other event 

1390
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,000
that covers 6 events right every
other event's CrossFit. 

1391
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:41,080
That's it. 
It's a lot of events which I 

1392
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,800
have my own thoughts about. 
If you have, if you have 13 

1393
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,720
events, if you have 13 events, 
that's seven events. 

1394
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:49,640
CrossFit. 
The game. 

1395
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,720
That's the games, I'm just 
saying. 

1396
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:59,440
Is a different Taylor, so. 
I'm just saying for something 

1397
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:03,280
like Dubai. 
OK, so, but OK. 

1398
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,680
We only have 678 events for 
sure. 

1399
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,200
OK, OK. 
How many events do you have? 

1400
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,080
8. 8. 
So then for a Dubai, there 

1401
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,480
should be 1 endurance specific 
event, right? 

1402
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,760
Yeah, it's probably, it's 
probably going to be, I'm just 

1403
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,640
saying one one year, one year it
was climbing stairs for 40 

1404
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:26,440
minutes and then there should be
one specific strength event. 

1405
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,680
They chose Olympic lifting, so 
that means they should not be a 

1406
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,960
brute strength one. 
And then you have one gymnastics

1407
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,840
specific event, probably ring 
muscle UPS because they love it 

1408
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:40,200
or those funky freaking whatever
backwards chest of our pull ups 

1409
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,000
they like to do. 
They like to do whatever funky 

1410
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,480
stuff they want to do, but like 
gymnastics specific event and 

1411
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:48,360
then the rest is CrossFit. 
So you have 5 CrossFit events 

1412
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,120
where it's a whole bunch of 
stuff the way to moderate or 

1413
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,160
light however you want to do it,
and then the gymnastics is 

1414
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,560
whatever you want. 
It's all it's just called 

1415
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:56,920
Crossfitty. 
There can be running in there 

1416
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:57,840
too, you know. 
You know what I mean? 

1417
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,360
You know what I'm saying? 
But there's three events to test

1418
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,520
specific modalities, endurance, 
gymnastics and strength. 

1419
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,680
They chose Olympic lifting. 
It could have been a one Rep Max

1420
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,640
deadlift. 
I think people would be just as 

1421
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,080
mad about that because that just
happens, right? 

1422
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,760
Should. 
We find some other ways. 

1423
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,520
That I don't think so. 
I think you should. 

1424
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,640
I think you should make sure the
test is well-rounded, right? 

1425
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,600
So there should be a specific 
strength event, a specific 

1426
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,520
endurance event, a specific 
gymnastics event, and then the 

1427
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,960
rest CrossFit. 
If it's a bigger competition, 

1428
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,400
you do 2 of each and I think 
that makes for a really good 

1429
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:37,480
competition. 
Well, I'm sure that the PFAA 

1430
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,520
will have something to say about
that at some point. 

1431
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,240
I disagree with you, but last 
topic. 

1432
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,840
Why do you disagree? 
I think. 

1433
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:55,080
It doesn't need 8 minutes it. 
Doesn't need to be the same the 

1434
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,640
same 2 lifts. 
I think you should vary it such 

1435
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,080
that I. 
Just told you how to vary it. 

1436
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,280
But I don't want to see, I don't
want to see one of those events 

1437
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:07,120
always be Olympic lifting. 
Every single event there is one 

1438
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,760
of those events is running, but 
you ran cross. 

1439
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,120
Country. 
I'm not saying that I don't want

1440
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,040
to see. 
No, I don't. 

1441
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,560
I don't want to see. 
I don't have a problem with it. 

1442
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,520
I don't want to see running as 
the first event every time 

1443
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,120
either. 
OK, I I would argue we don't 

1444
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,120
talk about that ever. 
And we're talking about this and

1445
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,680
I think it's stupid. 
You argued about you. 

1446
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,800
It's your argument. 
Let's do PFAA. 

1447
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,680
Let's go. 
All right. 

1448
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,400
All right. 
So Tier Watapalooza formed a 

1449
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,800
partnership with Brent 
Fakowski's PFAA. 

1450
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,880
And basically Watapalooza 
agreed, I guess is the best way 

1451
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:56,120
of saying it to commit to 
certain things for the 

1452
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,240
competition. 
And so the PFA has it on there, 

1453
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,000
Water Palooza has it on their 
website. 

1454
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,480
And so it goes through a lot of 
detail. 

1455
01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:08,920
And I want to kind of get your 
thoughts on, is this the right 

1456
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,920
direction for the sport? 
We need Peter. 

1457
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,320
We need Peter here to to make a 
joke about how they're trying to

1458
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:21,200
rival Rogues instructions for 
workouts with how long this 

1459
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,960
there's. 
A There's a lot. 

1460
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,680
Going on here. 
How like in what's the word I'm 

1461
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:31,000
looking for like resume? 
It looks like the resume's the 

1462
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,400
wrong word, but manual like it 
looks like a manual. 

1463
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,320
It's like the. 
It's the Organizer Event manual,

1464
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,000
so like water, Palooza agrees to
provide the following 

1465
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,120
information 30 days prior to the
competition. 

1466
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,320
The number of workouts, number 
of times they take the floor, 

1467
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,200
scoring details, point 
breakdowns which athletes have 

1468
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:59,120
to swim and swag details which 
seems odd. 

1469
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:06,000
Number of workouts like. 
Is that really important in an 

1470
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:11,000
event like that that eliminates 
surprise events, that eliminates

1471
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,360
like the unknown, unknowable of 
what you're going to be doing? 

1472
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,800
Like, is that where we should be
focusing our time, Tyler? 

1473
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,200
Why do unions exist? 
That's, that was my question. 

1474
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,760
Whenever I started reading this,
and it's usually because 

1475
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,440
somebody wasn't doing something 
and people got pissed off about 

1476
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:37,400
it and fed up. 
And so they got together and 

1477
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:38,720
they were like, enough of this, 
right? 

1478
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,880
And so Brent is doing that 
because he's been fed up with 

1479
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,040
how events have run in the past.
And I'm not talking about Water 

1480
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,400
Palooza specifically. 
I'm talking about the industry 

1481
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,240
as a whole. 
And fair enough, like things 

1482
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,280
didn't look like they were going
to change for a long time and 

1483
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,400
there was a lot of stuff going 
on. 

1484
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,040
And so Brent's an industrious 
guy. 

1485
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,520
He gets together and starts 
doing this. 

1486
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,760
Reading through this, it's clear
that Brent is a taskmaster and 

1487
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,920
will leave no rock unturned. 
And that's his job. 

1488
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:15,240
He's running the PFA and that's 
fine if I'm And so now you have 

1489
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,280
this group trying to solve this 
problem and Dylan's face to do 

1490
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,480
what? 
Like he can never either say no,

1491
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:23,080
you can go to hell. 
I don't want to do with your 

1492
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,360
thing which only creates bad 
press for water Palooza. 

1493
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,560
Or you can say yes, come along, 
which I think is the smarter, 

1494
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,960
the smarter thing, because then 
he controls how much and 

1495
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,240
especially from the beginning, 
right? 

1496
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,720
And if you watch the interview 
he did with Sean, they both did 

1497
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,240
with Sean, it's like, OK, they 
want to create this 

1498
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:46,440
relationship. 
And to me, I I get that I would 

1499
01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:48,920
rather control the relationship 
from the front as opposed to 

1500
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,400
have to deal with it later. 
But as a whole, I don't like the

1501
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,240
direction I think. 
I think events should just do 

1502
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,960
this stuff on their own. 
If I were running an event, I 

1503
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,320
would not want somebody in my 
pocket. 

1504
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:03,840
I don't want someone telling me 
what to do. 

1505
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,320
And so it's. 
Like fair, I bet. 

1506
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,520
I think Brent would probably 
agree with you. 

1507
01:26:08,440 --> 01:26:10,680
Right. 
Is this true? 

1508
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,400
I didn't. 
I didn't catch the talking elite

1509
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,040
fitness interview. 
But did Juana Palooza approach 

1510
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,600
the PFAA? 
I don't know if that's true, but

1511
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,240
if it is true, it doesn't make 
sense. 

1512
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,320
Like just get on board with us. 
Like, I don't. 

1513
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,880
I don't think that that's an 
ignorant move. 

1514
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,480
I don't. 
I just don't. 

1515
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:31,360
I don't like the, I don't like 
the wormhole. 

1516
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,920
If this opens up. 
What is just what? 

1517
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:39,920
What would make it explain? 
To me, like a lot of problems is

1518
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,680
when groups become too large, 
there's too many voices in the 

1519
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,800
room, nothing gets done as 
opposed to there's just one or 

1520
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,000
two voices in the room and then 
everything gets done because 

1521
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,360
it's you don't have that many 
decision makers, right? 

1522
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,880
And so to me, all the athletes 
are going to get a voice. 

1523
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,000
And I'm not saying that they 
don't deserve a voice, but it's 

1524
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,640
like some things like this could
just rather easily be taken care

1525
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,440
of if event runners just ran a 
good event to begin with. 

1526
01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:08,760
Like nothing in this thing is 
that. 

1527
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:10,360
Thing though. 
Like, you know what I mean? 

1528
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:11,720
Like what? 
Do you mean if it's a cop out? 

1529
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,840
I'm. 
Saying like it would be a 

1530
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:17,120
perfect world if if all events 
ran well but. 

1531
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,920
But like some, there's so many 
things in this document that are

1532
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,800
low, like low hanging fruit now,
like the swag thing. 

1533
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,320
Like to me, why do you need to 
know what swag you're getting? 

1534
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,160
Be happy you're getting swag and
and just go on with it. 

1535
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,800
Like, why? 
Why do you need any warning 

1536
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,600
about that? 
That's strange. 

1537
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,520
People say you're winning a swag
bag. 

1538
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,480
I'm like, OK, so I'm winning 
nothing. 

1539
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,960
Like that's how I feel about a 
swag. 

1540
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,600
Free protein. 
Well, like like they do that in 

1541
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,800
local competition. 
Like it's not worth my time. 

1542
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:54,120
I I don't think I'm opposed to 
studying a framework for it, but

1543
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,360
I feel like some of it went 
maybe a bit just too far, like, 

1544
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,320
why is this? 
Why are we boxing ourselves in? 

1545
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:07,360
One of the things in there was 
like prize purse, great having a

1546
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:13,680
liaison to understand what's 
going on with that, OK. 

1547
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,800
But I get down here and it's 
talking about where is it 

1548
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:25,800
scoring And basically it sounds 
like your your Peace Corps would

1549
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,400
never be implemented in what of 
pleasure? 

1550
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,520
Because they wouldn't even know.
But you know what like this is, 

1551
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:38,120
this is a, this is an instance 
that it's a good example ahead 

1552
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,880
of the Crucible, Jr. said. 
Write me up a short thing about 

1553
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,800
Peace Corps, how it works and 
how to get a hold of you. 

1554
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,040
He sent it out to the athletes 
and I like, made it explicit. 

1555
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,880
Please reach out to me. 
I don't care to talk about this.

1556
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,360
But he know he knew people were 
going to have issues with it or 

1557
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,040
want to understand more about 
it. 

1558
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,240
And it's like, but no one was 
holding his hand or like turning

1559
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,160
in his arm and saying, hey, you 
have to take care of this. 

1560
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,960
He just went ahead and did it on
his own and that's what I'm 

1561
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,600
talking about. 
Like just run a good event. 

1562
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,040
Should. 
I mean, we've gotten to this 

1563
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,760
point by innovation? 
Like my thought of it when I see

1564
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:19,480
this was does it stifle new 
creative ways of running a 

1565
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:24,000
competition? 
Because, like, there's certain, 

1566
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,560
you know, minimum work 
requirements that are 

1567
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,840
understandable. 
There's standards for like 

1568
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:36,480
handstand push ups or whatever. 
Like new movements have to be 

1569
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,120
almost like they were almost 
like vetted in some way. 

1570
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:44,960
Or like you can't bring 
something new to the table like 

1571
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,840
you've seen in the past without 
it causing an uproar. 

1572
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,200
Yeah, those logs in 2014 that 
they had to carry on those on 

1573
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,400
their backs, that'd be outlawed 
for sure, right? 

1574
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,360
2013. 13, yeah. 
Thank you, John. 

1575
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,760
Sorry. 
Yeah, I just, I just don't know 

1576
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:07,840
like why? 
Why couldn't you have a winner 

1577
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,720
take all final event if you had 
some way of like, hey the top 

1578
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,800
five get into it, you make it 
clear at the beginning, the top 

1579
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,080
five fight for the top spot. 
Like, I'm not saying that's the 

1580
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,720
best way of doing it, but to say
that you can never run a 

1581
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,960
competition that way seems odd 
to me. 

1582
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:25,440
I. 
Agree. 

1583
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,760
I agree to like that for them 
like it feels like they kind of 

1584
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,800
have strapped them down on what 
they can and can't do and that's

1585
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,240
a relationship is never, it's 
never a good relationship. 

1586
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,640
When somebody says hey you can 
do this, you can't do this like 

1587
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,000
and that's how you start the 
relationship, right. 

1588
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:46,840
With anything. 
I I I do think it's better that 

1589
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,800
it's overdone than underdone, 
right. 

1590
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,640
It's very clear. 
If they agree to this then we 

1591
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,560
know what to expect and that's 
nice. 

1592
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,440
Is that good for the sport 
though? 

1593
01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:02,440
I don't know. 
It doesn't seem like a it it 

1594
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:06,120
says president it's it's a 
dangerous president eventually 

1595
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,360
and maybe under the control of 
of Brent we don't have to worry 

1596
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,000
about it. 
But like Brent might not always 

1597
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,400
be around to want to do this And
so it's like, yeah, I I I just 

1598
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,920
don't like where it goes. 
The one thing I did wonder is if

1599
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:23,120
eventually, like, like, right 
now, I don't know. 

1600
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,440
It's like, what if Water Palooza
says we're going to agree to do 

1601
01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:29,000
all of this, and then they don't
do any, They don't deliver on 

1602
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,640
any of it, What the Hell's going
to happen? 

1603
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,680
The athletes are already at the 
event that, like, there's 

1604
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:34,920
nothing that's going to happen 
now. 

1605
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,000
Eventually it would probably be 
not positive, but like they're. 

1606
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,240
Already there manual like if you
do not abide, you owe us 30. 7 

1607
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:45,720
right? 
Like I I need. 

1608
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,160
I need that in the manual. 
I mean like just poking the 

1609
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,440
holes in this. 
This seemed like a friendly 

1610
01:31:52,440 --> 01:31:57,440
effort from Water Palooza to 
PFA, which I I do, I I do think 

1611
01:31:57,440 --> 01:32:00,680
it's positive, but I just don't 
like the whole contractual 

1612
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,280
agreement looking thing about 
it. 

1613
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,480
Yeah, I mean they, they even 
signed it. 

1614
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:11,360
So it's very, very contractual. 
Yeah, I don't know, I just 

1615
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,640
thought it was interesting like 
is this the right direction? 

1616
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,160
Should are we, are we cornering 
ourselves into this is what a 

1617
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,240
competition looks like and 
that's what it's going to be. 

1618
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,080
We talk about how it's a new 
sport. 

1619
01:32:25,480 --> 01:32:27,360
Are we? 
Are we really at a point where 

1620
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,200
we don't need to worry about 
changing anything down the road?

1621
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:38,080
So go check it out. 
It's on Water, Palooza site, PFA

1622
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,520
as well. 
They have it in their news 

1623
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,280
section. 
And then you can always go to 

1624
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:45,880
talk and Elite Fitness and see 
Brent and Dylan kind of discuss 

1625
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:50,000
that a little bit more. 
Well, guys, hate to do this, but

1626
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,240
it got cut out early. 
Got to go run and catch an 

1627
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,920
important phone call. 
Go to 3rd Z's and ESC sounds. 

1628
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:03,600
That's right. 
Third Z BBS for 20% off discount

1629
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:08,400
on your next bag of third Z. 
And then ESC sounds has the ESC 

1630
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,240
sounds mini. 
They're down to less than 100 in

1631
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,960
stock on their first run, so if 
you want it better go get it 

1632
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,960
now. 
So, all right, guys. 

1633
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:18,400
Until next week. 
Later. 

1634
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,600
See you. 
Have a good one guys.

