1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,560 Welcome welcome to the spin Tyler. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:12,560 Come on August 21st we're back skipping it real says 2 for one 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,680 action. You got two shows in a week. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:21,320 A little lucky lucky for you guys, Victorio, what's up one of 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,720 our favorites heavy Seve. There's a heavy John young. 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Did you know that JY? Yes, I've seen him. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Of course you have he's. Huge outside of McDonald's. 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,280 That's where we talk. It's where the John Young's 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,040 meet. Omar using the TMZ membership 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,600 icon there. Too bad YouTube doesn't let us 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,760 show it through here. ESC sounds great. 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Sponsor of ours during the CrossFit Games. 13 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,040 Maybe it's been tennis still out there. 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Get a get a deal on on your favorite mini ESC, mini and 15 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,840 headphones and. Good night, Melanie. 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Thanks for telling us that you're not going to watch the 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,240 show. She gave us a view. 18 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Well, it's been a quite a week. Tyler, how you doing? 19 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Good man, I going through the comments was fun this morning. 20 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:40,120 It's really, like, entertaining. Dude, I I can't keep up with 21 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,640 them, but there's so many freaking comments. 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Like every once in a while I'll click on one and to see like the 23 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,920 just the absolute like just unbelievable thread of one of 24 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 the comments and how much they go back and forth arguing. 25 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,520 It's wild. It's, I'm going to start out 26 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,880 weird. Did you know Prince was a 27 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,640 believer in chemtrails? And he had a theory, He had a 28 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,720 theory that they used it as a mind control device, that the 29 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,160 government would fly over it like a part of the city. 30 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,000 They would drop all their chemtrails and then everybody in 31 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,640 the like, that little St. would start fighting and killing each 32 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:25,280 other and stuff. And, and right now, I feel like 33 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,880 that's what's going on in the CrossFit world is that somebody 34 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,680 flew over, dusted us, and now everybody's just up in arms and 35 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,960 it's like, hey guys, maybe just watch and see. 36 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Now you have to react very quickly and very angrily on on 37 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,560 social media. John, how you doing? 38 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,040 I'm great, man. I'm not going to lie. 39 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:55,680 I'm a little burnt out on things but I'm I'm, I'm, I'm it'll be 40 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 OK. We'll get through it. 41 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:06,960 I will, I was coaching today and, and the I don't know what 42 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,680 something happened and then I had 70 text messages from the 43 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,720 chat and I'm like, and I have to check it to see if, you know, 44 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,320 somebody got fired or something big happened, right? 45 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,520 And and then like I'm trying to sift through these while like 46 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,000 the workout's going on and then somebody broke the seat off the 47 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,360 echo bike and then I had to go fix that. 48 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,200 And then, then, then, then I'm now now I'm like in coach mode. 49 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,800 So I'm coaching for 10 minutes and I come back to my phone, 50 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:38,200 there's sixty more text messages and I'm just like, right, right. 51 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 I just don't like, I don't care anymore. 52 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,480 I don't. I'm like, wake me up when 53 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,640 something happens, whether I like it or not. 54 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,400 I'll deal with it when it happens and I just don't care. 55 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,680 I appreciate you for joining and. 56 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Well, you do a whole show that makes you happy. 57 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,760 But I'm ready to be positive on the on the spin. 58 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,640 I'm ready to rock like, let's go. 59 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,880 That's right. So we're going to, I was going 60 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,880 through the the comments and trying to think through like 61 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 what, what topics can we talk about today? 62 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,240 And I came up with two the road qualifying system and the PFAA 63 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:21,160 statement. JY Barbell, get yours somebody. 64 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,920 Asked me about my shirt I was just showing. 65 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Them Yeah, you need to get one he needs he needs everybody's 66 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,640 support. So we'll go through over your 67 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,840 comments again, leave some comments down there. 68 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,680 We'll read them off next week, subscribe, all that fun stuff. 69 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Tyler, you need to get some armor on for your the comments 70 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,560 this week and then we'll get into some Rd. qualifying system 71 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,200 at Joshua Patterson. Man, Tyler and I had the same 72 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,600 parents. You can't share the. 73 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,360 No one gets anything. Can't do it with three brothers, 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:55,760 man. It's. 75 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,000 Good advice there, John, as a parent. 76 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,600 You say it again. If you can't, if you can't share 77 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,640 with a sibling or another friend, then nobody gets 78 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,040 anything. Just take it everything, take it 79 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,080 away from everybody. Nobody gets it so. 80 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,400 I think the best one gets it. And then if you're going to do 81 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,960 that to your kids. And then if, if you want it be 82 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,040 the best one, everybody's got different levels. 83 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,200 You don't have to be, you don't have to be better. 84 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,840 You don't have to be better, you just got to be. 85 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,480 Like your? Best one. 86 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,680 No, no, no. Everybody's different, right? 87 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Everybody's got different levels. 88 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,040 If there is a scaled athlete that sells his soul, sells, 89 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,880 let's say sells her soul and she holds 70 on the Echo bike for, I 90 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,080 don't know, 40 seconds, and she's never, ever done that. 91 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,360 And then you got some big dude who cranked 100 for 10 seconds 92 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,720 and beat her. She worked harder, she did 93 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,800 better. She's the best one that day, so. 94 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,200 If she wants that pull up bar, she gets that pull up bar. 95 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Is that what I'm saying? Yes, Yes, she. 96 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Literally. She's earned it, yeah. 97 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Tyler's like Nope, that that pull up bar is off limits. 98 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,960 I'm going to take it down. Nobody. 99 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,280 This is literally a segment of an athlete biopic where I was 100 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:10,080 like, yeah, my dad said like. You got to be the best. 101 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Or won't be around here. Go ahead, Tyler. 102 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Male male guy. Just got here guys. 103 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Oh good at Carlton. Tyler is so wrong with this. 104 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,920 It's not about control, it's about basic safety. 105 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,040 And if you listen carefully, athletes have said this many 106 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,440 times. Listen to Matt on Rogan. 107 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,360 Yeah, I'm not going to listen to that again. 108 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,120 That's that's been a few years at Barbed wire. 109 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,280 Cat is very thankful for our show and the diverse thoughts 110 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:51,280 expressed at Lin MO 1975. Who is this imbecile wearing the 111 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:53,200 white headphones? For real? 112 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,680 What an ass there. You go. 113 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,520 These are high grade headphones. Why didn't she say it like that 114 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,920 at the end? So what an ass. 115 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,080 What an ass. At Laura Spooner, you met her at 116 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,760 the games. They shouldn't wait till all of 117 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,640 the info is out and then make a decision when the dust has 118 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,520 settled and the emotions aren't so high. 119 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Makes no sense to make a decision when emotions are at an 120 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,520 all time high. Justify two cents. 121 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,240 Agreed. That would that would be way too 122 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,240 simple. Yeah, not as responsible. 123 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Yeah. Crossfat should have made Tyler 124 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,240 read this like mean tweets. I did that all of this morning. 125 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,360 I'm super down to pull up like the meanest things and then just 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,400 make them read it. I'm super down if we want to do 127 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,440 that. Something to make them read 128 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,120 them. The best? 129 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,840 They hate us 'cause they ain't us. 130 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,760 That'll be the segment. That'll that'll be the segment. 131 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,600 The absolute worst comments. There was a lot of news for them 132 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,000 recently. Was was not family appropriate 133 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,280 or podcast appropriate? Probably, but there's. 134 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,160 There's plenty. Canadian glory hole is that. 135 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:14,480 The one, yeah, I mean. Yeah, at Megan Lorna Still can't 136 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,280 watch the final? Is it YouTube and Australia or 137 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,640 the rest of the world missing out too? 138 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,200 No, you cannot watch the final event of the 2024 CrossFit 139 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,720 Games. You can watch our reaction to 140 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,880 it, though, and it's it's. Yeah, you'll be wondering what 141 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,320 you're missing. It sounds exciting for sure, 142 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:44,080 I'll tell you that right now, Jacqueline Robertson Spin reads 143 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,200 mean, comments show. Never do. 144 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,520 It's a segment, it's not a whole. 145 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:53,560 We're going to add. Well, I will get depressed if we 146 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,920 do a whole show that's a that's a 5 minute segment. 147 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,600 I used to think we couldn't do it. 148 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Now we could definitely. I think we. 149 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Could next we have we have enough hate, right the more. 150 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,280 We have enough hate. The more hate the better. 151 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 It's funny because like back in the day when we first started 152 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,560 the show, there's no way I could have handled the hate. 153 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,320 And now it's like, it's like waking up. 154 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,280 It's no big deal. You, you've merely adopted the 155 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,240 hate. I was born. 156 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,840 I was molded by it. I didn't see positive comments 157 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:33,560 until spin. At Helson Albernaz This is so 158 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:37,040 hard to believe. James Sprague the effing James 159 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Sprague is a 2024 CrossFit Games champion. 160 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:45,240 Yep. There you go. 161 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,440 There was so many comments to go. 162 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,760 I think. I think last night's show had 163 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,680 over 110, almost 120 comments, something like that. 164 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,840 Yeah, a lot of it was I. Looked on there and I saw that 165 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,120 y'all were like when an hour after I got off and then I saw 166 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,880 122 comments and I was like I'm I'm good. 167 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,160 I I probably I've probably got it. 168 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,040 I don't know what was said but like. 169 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,720 Going to sit this one out. I probably got what? 170 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,720 What happened? I mean they're, they weren't all 171 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,720 original, right? Like so somebody says something 172 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,480 and then next, you know, you have like 6 people arguing back 173 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,280 and forth like you're an idiot. How could you say that 'cause I 174 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,400 said you're an idiot? Yeah, I just assumed it was 175 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Travis was you know pro Brent Fukowski, Velen or whatever 176 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,680 their stance was and Tyler had about 8 analogies that nobody 177 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,160 knew what was happening and and spin was just mediating. 178 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:35,040 That's what I assume. Happened what? 179 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,520 What's great about the comments is that, like, there's people 180 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,800 who are angry because I was on one side of the argument, and 181 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,760 there's people who are angry 'cause I was on the other side 182 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,560 of the argument, and then there's people who are angry 183 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,400 'cause I was on no side of the argument. 184 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,320 Yeah, yeah. Did we bring up the Glory Hole 185 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,880 Comet? We did not bring it up, but if 186 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,880 you want to go check it out, trying to be a little. 187 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,040 It's a doozy. Yeah. 188 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,720 We did talk about biker gangs though, so I don't know if you I 189 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,360 was. Here for that? 190 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Yeah, I was here for that one. That was a good analogy. 191 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,080 It was one of my better ones. I stand by that analogy. 192 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,640 Ed al stand. I stand with that analogy. 193 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,680 Ed Al wants to bring back Brad Pitt. 194 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Get rid of JY. There we go. 195 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,600 Ed's been trying to get rid of me for years. 196 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Ed Scott Perkins and Crossfat, I think, get together and just 197 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,760 talk about how much they don't like me. 198 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,920 The John Young Hate Support Group. 199 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Yeah, those those three. Probably pink shorts too, Ed. 200 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Schwartz is not a fan. Other than that, there's 201 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,680 probably one more I'm not thinking about, but those, those 202 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:48,440 guys, they will get on every podcast just to hate. 203 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,840 ETA there you. Go All right, let's talk about 204 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,640 the Before we get to the PFAA and let some people call in, 205 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,120 we'll put the phone line at that point. 206 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,160 The Rogue Invitational qualifying system has been 207 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:14,160 updated for the 2024 CrossFit Games and some interesting 208 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,800 reactions. If you're not familiar with 209 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,080 this, this is a multi year ranking system that Rogue put 210 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,600 together that basically looks at the CrossFit open, the CrossFit 211 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,320 quarterfinals, the CrossFit Games and then the Rogue 212 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:35,240 imitational and gives people points based off that. 213 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,760 You get less points as the years go by. 214 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,360 So results from three years ago gets less points than this 215 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,320 year's CrossFit game. So, you know, recent performance 216 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,400 weighs more heavily than something from three years ago. 217 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,240 And their idea is of the 20 games or the 20 spots for the 218 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,800 Rogue Invitational, they're going to take five from the 219 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:07,000 qualifier, a minimum of 10 from this qualifying system, and then 220 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,120 they'll figure out the next 5 looking at the 2024 CrossFit 221 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Games and who they like. And of course, everything they 222 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,280 say is then footnoted with this is an Invitational, so we can do 223 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:28,120 whatever we want. And so let's take a look at the 224 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,360 rankings. And we could probably pick who 225 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 they're going to invite too. I guess you got to wait and see 226 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,680 who doesn't come. Yeah, so they said that they're 227 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:39,920 going to have invites out by Friday, so athletes will start 228 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,840 having an idea of. It'll be interesting if the 229 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,920 Europeans don't want to commit to this if it because it's, but 230 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,400 it's in Europe, you know what I mean? 231 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,000 There's no way I'm imagining. They're never going to have this 232 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,680 opportunity like, or I mean, I guess they will, but it's the 233 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:58,240 first time they've had an opportunity like this. 234 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,480 Yeah, yeah, it'll be a huge. And then we'll see who wants to 235 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,880 compete on the women's side. Tia Claire, Toomey Orr on top, 236 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,760 Laura Horvath second. Laura's BFF, maybe Gabby Mcgallo 237 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,000 in 3rd. Danielle Brandon. 238 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:26,560 I just just EBFEBF. Yeah, think about it. 239 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Exiled best friend. Ex Best Best. 240 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Ex best friend. It's, you know, BFF. 241 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Made that more I. Was I was, yeah. 242 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,920 We don't know how that how that's going down. 243 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Laurel and her and her brother are a little vocal right now. 244 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,360 We'll get into that here in a bit. 245 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,000 Did you about screw up and stay it again? 246 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Yeah. You did? 247 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Yeah, you. Did do they live in the in the 248 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,320 Alabama of Europe? Is that what you're about to do? 249 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Is that what is Hungary? Like the Alabama is rude Europe 250 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,680 you both have don't don't get it confused. 251 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,920 They're brother and. Sister, I wonder if they there 252 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,760 is like a country in Europe where they make fun of that, 253 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,920 stuff like that. Oh, the it's the, it's, it is 254 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,680 the Alabama of Europe. Yeah. 255 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,640 What? Country is a country that's like 256 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,520 that, like, you know, we make fun of like Alabama and like 257 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,720 West Virginia, right? But like, I wonder if there are 258 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,440 European countries that they do the same thing. 259 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,560 I, I don't know. I'm I'm wondering, I'm curious. 260 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Do. You think so? 261 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,640 I'm going with Kazakhstan just. Because nobody knows how to say 262 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,520 it. Yeah. 263 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Balo pleased that they have a falling out not Laura and 264 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Christoph have not. Gabby and Christoph were dating 265 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,520 as far as I know. They obviously took two 266 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,920 different very different paths on hand. 267 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,000 How to handle the the continuation of the CrossFit 268 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Games, I don't know. I don't know what. 269 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,680 They have a they have a weird triangle, Gabby's best friends 270 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:13,440 with Laura and girlfriend with Kris Kristoff and Laura and 271 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Kristoff feel one way and Gabby, I don't know if she feels the 272 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,240 same way, but she kept competing and they haven't. 273 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,040 As far as we know. They haven't spoken since. 274 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,000 We haven't seen them together since any of them. 275 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,320 I'm sure they've spoken, but like. 276 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,800 They don't like each other's things on Instagram anymore. 277 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Stuff like that. Like, like there's stuff like 278 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,960 that. That is true. 279 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Ben Smith was there as the support structure for Gabby, 280 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,480 whereas I don't think that that was original the original 281 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 intent. Yeah, I don't know. 282 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,720 I I do know there were rumors that Laura and crew left Fort 283 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Worth pretty early on, but rolled out. 284 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,160 That was a rumor. Don't know if that's true or 285 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:53,400 not. I. 286 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,960 Don't know. Malo doesn't think there's a 287 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,320 cancel culture in Europe, though. 288 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,280 There is in Canada. Travis. 289 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,680 Danielle Brandon 4th Emma Lawson, 5th Ariel Lowen, 6th 290 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:19,880 Alexis Raptors 7th Annie Thoris daughter hold on to 8th place. 291 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,839 What a what a chance. What is she doing right now? 292 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000 She's being a Mama. I'm saying like, does she look 293 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,600 like she's in shape or does she look like she's being a mom? 294 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,600 I think she's selling some daughter skin and. 295 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,560 So, so not not in shape then. OK, I'm just, I'm just curious. 296 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,520 You're like, you know, Rogue suits her, right? 297 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,120 So. Yeah, I don't know. 298 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,400 I don't know if she's been training enough. 299 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,680 And that's that is kind of the big question, right. 300 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Like it used to be top 15 kind of general guidelines is that's 301 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,000 who got invited. So you knew that they were in 302 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,040 peak physical condition. This system allows for some 303 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,480 athletes to have not possibly been trained as hard to kind of 304 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,320 stay in there based off a previous performance. 305 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Alex Kazan and then Brooke Wells. 306 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:14,160 So those would be the ten female athletes who we think would most 307 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,240 likely get invited. And I think the ones, the only 308 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,480 ones that might not do it would would be, I guess Laura's a 309 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,080 question mark, but Ariel possibly. 310 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,720 And then Annie, I don't know, the Americans, I guess we just 311 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,560 don't know because it's so easy to do it for them. 312 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,600 And now it's not. Now it's not. 313 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,080 I think the Americans will go as long as they feel like. 314 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,880 They everything's paid for and stuff. 315 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Yeah, they get, they get stipends and it is. 316 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,360 Different. Yeah, but it's going to be a 317 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,080 freaking cool experience to go, Yeah. 318 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:52,880 I would 100% go. Yeah, the thing that I think is 319 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,800 interesting and it kind of ties into the PFAA is, you know, a 320 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,160 lot of calls of, well, if CrossFit doesn't do what we 321 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,600 want, we'll just go do other competitions or Rogue should 322 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,120 take over. Does anyone remember like last 323 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,560 year's Rogue? Where we thought, what are you 324 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,040 doing here? Yeah. 325 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Like it was pretty rough and then they had to go deadlift, 326 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,000 you know, 20 times and set 10 PRS. 327 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,920 But it's not the games man, so they don't get near. 328 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,960 As not. But they dreaded people's hands. 329 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,040 They never ran that many events and there for a minute I 330 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,640 remember talking about it because I was like, bro are you 331 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,120 practicing? Yeah, yeah, I. 332 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:38,480 Hope there is there. Do you know if there what the 333 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,720 venue looks like in Scotland? Is it indoors? 334 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,800 It's an indoor. I think it's probably a lot like 335 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Dickies from a OK just I'm just saying they. 336 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,880 Thought you know it rained in America last year? 337 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:54,840 Scotland. Oh no, you'd have zero chance. 338 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,640 Rains every day. My guess is it's all indoors. 339 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,120 They, you know, you never know, they could do an outdoor event. 340 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,360 I hope they do some strongman thing like that pays an homage 341 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,600 or like a Highlander thing. They'll do something like that. 342 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Yeah, I don't know how they, I mean, with the baseball field, 343 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,560 they had so much space to have all those big, huge things set 344 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,960 up. I don't know how, if you know 345 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,080 what this venue is going to be like to be able to have all of 346 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,000 that mixed in with the CrossFit stuff. 347 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 What did they call that? Big ramp again. 348 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Matter Hill. No. 349 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,360 No, no, no, no, no. The one where they with the 350 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:34,480 rope. And what the the the turtle? 351 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,120 No, I maybe it was turtle. No, it was it was the strongman 352 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:40,600 implement. Yeah, wool that they. 353 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,840 Had to, yeah. I can't remember what. 354 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,200 No, it was like a a a like a lift or some type of like. 355 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,440 It was like a a roller coaster. Yeah, that was it was roller 356 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,760 coaster. Roller coaster. 357 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,240 OK, there we go. Yeah. 358 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,040 That's not what I'm talking about. 359 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,880 Not that. Well, I can't see that or that 360 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,160 that big thing that the. The wheel of pain. 361 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,760 Conan thing, yeah. Yeah, that would be pretty cool. 362 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,960 We have to. Lighten it, but. 363 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,880 Right. Yeah, they get about half the 364 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,520 size. You know, you know, it's funny. 365 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,960 It'd be so different because cross fitters would go so much 366 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,600 longer than the strongman will. If the weight, if it's a weight 367 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,000 they can do right, the strongman like they they making this 368 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,640 impossible. Wait, but they're only going a 369 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,040 minute, right? Like the cross fitters would 370 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,120 never stop, right? I guess it's a minute. 371 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:38,960 For how long? So I guess that you could speed 372 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,200 it up and then it's just a minute time, you know what I 373 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,040 mean? That's what they would have to 374 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,680 do. I'd love to see dude Hopper and 375 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,960 Dallin and Roman against each other on that. 376 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,520 That'd be really, really fun. Well, that's the question is 377 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,120 does Roman even compete because he's dealing with some type of 378 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,560 hip? Injury all broken? 379 00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Yeah. Yeah, I and Speaking of like 380 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,120 safety and whatever, you remember the last year they had 381 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:08,040 the they had to pull the bowl like with the rope, right? 382 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 They like had it strapped on him and then one dude like snapped 383 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,160 his Achilles and passed out like freaking crazy. 384 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,440 Strong men. They're somebody that always 385 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,920 gets hurt. They're not about, they're not 386 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,680 about safety and strong, strong men. 387 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,240 They're like, we're probably going to get hurt. 388 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,520 I mean they're walking duct tape anyway dude. 389 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,960 They're like the amount of volume and shit they do. 390 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,600 It's like they are just cruising for a bruising at all times. 391 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,720 Something's about to snap that with the amount of drugs that 392 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,480 they do like putting that, it's like, I'm not saying it like in 393 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,360 any sort of judge mental way. It's just like. 394 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,040 What they do, they do. Tightens the shit out of your 395 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,240 tendons. They're on all the. 396 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Drugs. Yeah, and it's like that. 397 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,360 You're just waiting to snap at any moment. 398 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Yeah, the sport where half of them get bloody noses during the 399 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,040 deadlift and there's going to be the strong woman contest for the 400 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,560 first time too, so. There's some. 401 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,160 I watched that last. I can't remember where I watched 402 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520 The Strong Women, but I was like, it was a lot more 403 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,880 entertaining. There's like some characters in 404 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,520 there. I can't do the strong women, 405 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,840 man. It's pretty cool. 406 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,320 Dude, don't. I can't do it, dude. 407 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,840 I'm all about the CrossFit women. 408 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,920 I am. I am. 409 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,600 I love that we like have as equality as you can have. 410 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,680 It's awesome that the women are just as good as the men and like 411 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,840 if TI mean Tia, they're better than the men, but I can't do the 412 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,560 strong women, man. I just can't. 413 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,680 They're just like when they they do what they do and they throw 414 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,760 whatever they throw. But then you hear this like like 415 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,960 like from a 24 year old woman, like it's Jews to the girls. 416 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,840 I just can't just I just can't do it. 417 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:01,000 I'm sorry, I can't do it. I just can't like it's, I like 418 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,560 it. I know there's people that can. 419 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,640 I'm not, I'm not It's nothing to them. 420 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,640 It's nothing. I they have fans too. 421 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,600 I'm I'm not hating on what they do. 422 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,800 It's just not for me. I I like the strong men. 423 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Maybe I'm sexist, but. When you girls want to be on the 424 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,880 show, I'll interview you will kick John off and. 425 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,400 Oh, I will interview you. I I but. 426 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Don't want to watch you? But I'm just, yeah, you're not. 427 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,320 You're not very entertaining to me. 428 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,920 That's what I do. If we ever got a strong woman on 429 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,640 the show, I'd be like, so John Young hates what you do. 430 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,200 I don't, I don't hate what you do, I just hate what you look 431 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,800 like. To say you hate what they do, 432 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,400 just say you hate what they're just. 433 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,400 Joking. I'm just joking. 434 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,120 I just, I personally can't do it. 435 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,400 OK, there you go, John. It's nothing against them. 436 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,320 Rack up those bad. Comments. 437 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,520 Thanks buddy. Throw your comments in the down 438 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,560 there below. We'll read them all. 439 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,280 They're. Awesome. 440 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,640 They're awesome. Y'all go kill it. 441 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,000 I'm not going to be a part of it, but like y'all go kill it. 442 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,480 You're awesome, you go do it. I can't you know if water polo 443 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,320 was on the TVI can't do that either. 444 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,840 I tried to watch it for 5 minutes. 445 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,400 I'm like, this is pretty boring. I can't do. 446 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,000 It. So this is where it gets 447 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,160 interesting. So after that, Amanda Barnhart, 448 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,240 Emma McQuaid, 3rd place finisher, Emily Rolf, Hayley 449 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:31,000 Adams, Emma Carey, Paige Samenza, EMS and Tall Man and 450 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Agonies didn't even compete. Yeah, she shot. 451 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,400 The game is really, really high. But she's but she's been at the 452 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,840 she qualified for rogue twice through the queue and get gained 453 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,760 those points. Karen Freova, Danny Spiegel, 454 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,800 Bethany Flores top five finisher down there in 22nd. 455 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,400 So essentially, Rogue's going to have to come out and find five 456 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,720 more athletes from here. The question is who? 457 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,320 I assume Emily Rolf gets in that invite, right? 458 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,320 I think anybody on the podium will get an invite. 459 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,280 Yeah. Yeah, honestly, I think Emma 460 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760 Carrie will get an invite whether she wants to take it or 461 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,600 not. Emma Carrie's a big draw. 462 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,160 That would be wild, right? Like she comes back and. 463 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,640 Does does Rogue say, you know what? 464 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,200 This year's Games is just too wild. 465 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,160 We're not except like, if you made podium, we're not like. 466 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,280 No, they said, they said that they were going to. 467 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,640 They said they were going to so. We're pretty sure the podium 468 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,400 ain't going to be very good at our company. 469 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,360 I'm not saying they would, I just. 470 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,360 Say. They would. 471 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,240 Rogue is pretty good though about inviting people that will 472 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960 be good for their competition like they think these people 473 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,480 will be good like I could see Sprague. 474 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,440 Will be amazing for that competition. 475 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,720 OK, they're the podium. It's the podium, right? 476 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,920 But like other than that? Like what you mean? 477 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Emma tall will be is very 478 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,920 would be very good in their competition. 479 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,880 I I kind of think she'll get an invite. 480 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,320 What about Danny Spiegel? She's 20th. 481 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Probably. And she's been in Rogue and won 482 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,400 events year after year after year. 483 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,880 I 100% could see Danny Spiegel getting an invite. 484 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,840 I think he will get an invite. I I Rogue has always been very 485 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,520 good at inviting people that will be a big draw or will win 486 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,480 events and do well in their competition. 487 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,880 And their competition is is different than the CrossFit 488 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,600 Games. It just is. 489 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,640 A combination of both, which is important because like if you're 490 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,280 a big draw, but you're not going to do well or, or, or have 491 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,400 events where you, you're impressive, they won't invite 492 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,760 you. But they, they usually do both. 493 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,800 And I appreciate that about them, 'cause I don't want this 494 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600 to be the Instagram games. No. 495 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,200 It's not me. I just saw a comment. 496 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:05,800 I think the final might be up now, the final Sunday finale. 497 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Influence right here. We've been up here. 498 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,440 Yeah. Who? 499 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,200 Who made that comment? You're welcome. 500 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,120 Yeah. You guys, what I would do is I 501 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,720 would simultaneously play like our broadcast while you're 502 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560 watching that just cause it's better. 503 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,680 Yeah, we do. Do time stamps vindicate? 504 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,880 Is the PFAA involved with Rogue I? 505 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,960 Cannot see Bill and Katie. They, they put him in a room 506 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440 with a guy who is paid to look like a rogue employee but is not 507 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,760 at like not actually a rogue employee. 508 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160 He's just a contractor that they sit him in there with and he's 509 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,160 like, Oh yeah, we'll do that. We'll do that. 510 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Josh Bridges and Spieler. Yeah, one of the most risk 511 00:28:53,880 --> 00:29:00,560 comfortable people in the world. Right on the men's side, Jeff 512 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Adler, Pat Vilner, Justin Medeiros, Roman with his hip 513 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:15,360 injury, who knows if he'll be able to accept BKG 19th, 20th 514 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,160 this year. I think he'll go. 515 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,640 He likes Rogue. Years and years of I guess good 516 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,320 performances kept him up there. Jason Hopper always does well at 517 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,520 Rogue. He's going, Ricky, he's going. 518 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,640 Question mark, I mean he's, he's ankle. 519 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,600 I think it'll be fine. I don't think he broke anything. 520 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,880 So in two months, it's it's the end of November. 521 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,080 I doubt Noah would go. Yeah, like Noah going team and 522 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520 what's interesting is Rogue actually for their rankings. 523 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,480 If you go team, you actually get points based off your previous 524 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,440 two years of games performance with a 15% penalty. 525 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,480 So Noah and Chandler both earned points based off of the previous 526 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,200 two years performance. So they got points. 527 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,240 So did Laura Horvath in fact because of the withdraw the they 528 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,360 gave her points. Dallin Pepper and Jay Crouch 529 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,280 round out your top ten. Yeah, after that Chandler. 530 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,800 I. Think, I think I think Chandler 531 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,800 I I got no, I would say no, but Chandler like his best 532 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,200 competition is rogue is Rogue. Yeah, it's it's the best 533 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,680 programming for him. If he can make a competition, he 534 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,920 would make Rogue. Renata when did Roman get the 535 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,480 injury? I don't know when, but I'd heard 536 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,600 on Sunday he was dealing with a hip injury. 537 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,520 And you could notice like a complete drop off. 538 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Yeah. Yeah, he did not perform like, 539 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,640 yeah, So I don't know if it was something on Saturday, if it was 540 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:06,680 the 1000 box step UPS or what, but yeah, what's that? 541 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,720 It would be dope if they invited Paige. 542 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Also Kelsey but Paige would be a cool move. 543 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160 Well, Kelsey, Kelsey hasn't earned it at this point. 544 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,720 No, I agree. Paige is, she's somewhat 545 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520 decently ranked for not, yeah, 24th. 546 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,520 So maybe she's totally, she may be a little too far out, but you 547 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:39,560 never know. And then Mr. Vykowski and 12th 548 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,120 Sam Quant, 13th Yonakoski. Do you invite Yonah? 549 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,400 I think so. It's Europe. 550 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,400 He's he's, he's very kind of Europe's, one of Europe's best. 551 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800 I think they'll wanna show European people's their best 552 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240 people. And he's like right across the 553 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 the water there. I don't know. 554 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,400 It's it's not his best competition. 555 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,880 It's not, but you know, you want Europe's best people there and 556 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,400 he's one of Europe's best people. 557 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,040 Yeah, I mean, you really like to pick if Noah. 558 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,760 I guess if Noah and and Roman declined, then you do have a 559 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,640 couple extra spots. Saxon Pantryk. 560 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000 Travis Mayer. I met Travis's parents in the 561 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,640 parking lot on Sunday afternoon. So. 562 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,720 I love that you sent that picture that I had no clue. 563 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480 And I was like, I don't know who this is. 564 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,840 And then like, I don't know, it's an hour or two later. 565 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,240 You're like, that's Travis's parents. 566 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,600 Yeah, if I got no response from you guys, especially you. 567 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880 I was just like, oh cool, it's been you're taking pictures of 568 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,120 the fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 569 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:53,520 Samuel Cornwalle Yellow Hosta, Henry Capitoline and they go all 570 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,360 the way down here underneath Key, underneath Will Morad, Will 571 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:05,160 James Sprague down there in 25th, but Will straight. 572 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,080 Up. Look at Austin 27th. 573 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,080 Not bad for being basically in the in the sport for a year do. 574 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,080 You think he'll get an invite? He'd be a but. 575 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,440 Austin would wreck shop at Rogue. 576 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,280 But we're now going to cater a little bit more to the European 577 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800 fan base, I think. Or do you think that they want 578 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,120 to bring over Americans? It's like when the I I think 579 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,640 they. Want to be the best? 580 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,960 People, yeah, I think they want to make bring the best people, 581 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:42,200 but I do think it will be an onus on the year like Europeans. 582 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,880 It's not like they have a whole bunch of people, like at the top 583 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,640 there's like five guys, like in the men's field, there's like 584 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,880 five guys that kind of like these are their five guys, 585 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,760 right? BKG Yona Yella I. 586 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,560 Mean they only have three in the top 20. 587 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080 And then Heinrich. Heinrich. 4/4 in the top 20. 588 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160 From here that's. What I'm saying, it's not like 589 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,920 they have this like so many people. 590 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,880 I just think, I just think Austin would like in rogue 591 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,960 programming, think about how they program. 592 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,719 It is his style. Dude, he's got all like the 593 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,719 strength in the world as far as those type of events. 594 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,199 He's Hardy. Yeah, it's funny. 595 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,360 A note on Hatfield. I don't. 596 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,280 I'm not saying he'd win or anything, but I do think he's 597 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,480 pretty high. Yeah, I I rescored the games 598 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560 doing P score and a couple different things I play. 599 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,199 With I saw that it's it's pretty crazy where he where he was, 600 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,840 yeah. It was 10th. 601 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,760 No, I know I was like, but it was the most up and down games 602 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,679 like you could have and like roller coaster of games you can 603 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,000 have. And then the fact that he ended 604 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,320 up the same spot is pretty crazy to me. 605 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,280 I'm always tinkering with different formulas, so it's like 606 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,880 I have the original Z score formula, the P score formula, 607 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,320 and then like usually one that I'm screwing around with and 608 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,400 then every single one he was 10th. 609 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:17,520 Who was first, though? In Peace Corps, it was Dallin. 610 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Was there was there an event that caused that? 611 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,480 I didn't. I didn't have time to look into 612 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,360 it. I basically finished it up. 613 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,080 This time for Firestorm, because I know Jason was ahead of 614 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,400 everybody, but like Dallin was also ahead of everybody by a 615 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640 lot. Yeah, those short events can 616 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,240 really. Ricky, Ricky kind of got screwed 617 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,440 because the run was only like, it's only like 50 points. 618 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,760 That's what that's how I broke it up. 619 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,880 And he kind of gets screwed because of that. 620 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,720 Well, I mean, Dicky's triplet, he would have been top three if 621 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,120 he could run and like like he's he was done with that. 622 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,840 You know what I'm saying? He would have been right there 623 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520 in the mix with the top five guys. 624 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880 If I'm not saying to win but he'd be he'd be worth like 625 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,960 downer area like. So you use Tyler, you use the 626 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,640 mile time for the run, just use the mile as that was here. 627 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,240 And then I have the the other the other one as well. 628 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,040 I have the the Sprint carry thing. 629 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,080 Crossfat. You said every rendition, 630 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,240 everything you did with Austin, he was 10th place. 631 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,560 You try to watch. It this is like no matter what I 632 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,800 am correct? That. 633 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,800 He's going to be 10th place. I got at the end of it and I 634 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,760 looked at it and I was like, well, son of a bitch. 635 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,840 It would be really interesting if you looked back at like how 636 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,840 much time was wasted for no reps on the rope climbs if he had 637 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,840 gotten if he had gotten first like on on the squat on the 638 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,840 clean ladder. I've done the math on it like 639 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:56,000 with with like the clean ladder. So I with a perfect run, perfect 640 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,760 run, I'm saying like no reps and I was like a little bit 641 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,680 conservative on it. Like, you know, you don't know 642 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,680 how. How much time? 643 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,000 Yeah. Like 5 rope climbs. 644 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,280 I just said a minute, like you know what I mean? 645 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,360 It's probably, it's probably might be a little bit more a 646 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,880 minute, right, right. But I was conservative with with 647 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,160 that stuff and he would have been 5th place. 648 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,240 Between the clean ladder and the rope climbs. 649 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:19,680 Yeah, Velner and Hopper were tied for 4th. 5th and he would 650 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,040 have been behind. And he potentially could have 651 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,080 gotten first on the Chad. It would have been close. 652 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,400 I left that as is because it's three points, right? 653 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,640 But like 5th place rookie year, right? 654 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,720 Yeah, Colton Merton's down there in 32nd. 655 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,560 That's a you. I have Colton so low. 656 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,640 Because he hasn't been at Rogue. So the, the issue is that they 657 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,920 they count Rogue almost as much as or maybe as much as the 658 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,200 games, right? And so it almost creates a, a 659 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,360 circular reference because you did in the past, you did well at 660 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160 the games. You got to go to Rogue, you get 661 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,800 to accrue points if you didn't, if you got 16th at the games and 662 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,120 you didn't make it through the queue, like you take a huge hit 663 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,160 versus somebody that may have gotten an invite like Annie last 664 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,360 year or even Tia last year, right? 665 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:24,400 Like Rogue gets to choose And so to some degree they've they've 666 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400 kind of created who's going to be in the top or at least has 667 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,600 the opportunity to be in the top. 668 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,800 Do you like this system where it's a rewarding people's past 669 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,160 performance? Or do you like the old kind of 670 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,480 method of generally speaking, the top 15 get an invite plus 671 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,360 the five qualifiers? It gives us something to talk 672 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880 about. But generally I think I like the 673 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,320 15 and then I did not mind that they picked who they wanted. 674 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,040 And then I think the qualification process is, is 675 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,840 still cool. I, I don't, I just don't. 676 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,880 There's no scoring system like that that's going to work, 677 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,440 especially if you involve Rogue, which of course they would 678 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,760 involve their own event, but like, it just sets you so far 679 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,360 behind so quickly if you don't go to their events, hints 680 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,920 Sprague. So I, I did see they have notes 681 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,520 like every time they make adjustments to because it is a 682 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,000 beta version. They do have, I don't know if I 683 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:34,080 can pull it up down here, qualifying system they are 684 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,720 looking at actually including adding events like Tierra 685 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,400 Watapalooza. They started looking at that so. 686 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,760 It's just like, I don't know why I, it's funny because it seems 687 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,640 like my kind of thing that I would do and it's like I I think 688 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,760 I would just scrap it like the games is is good enough. 689 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,360 It would actually be interesting to see if we like we did this 690 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,760 year's games and then go off of that if it would, if it would 691 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,800 bother us all that much. I don't think it would. 692 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,360 Look at the top 15 from this year's games or top ten and then 693 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,880 adding five like you could you know you'd add Laura Sure, Jeff, 694 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,600 those types you. Basically have exactly who you 695 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,480 wanted to add. Ria yeah. 696 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,720 And then and then the five and the qualifier. 697 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,960 I mean, I'm, I agree with Tyler, like even though like it was 698 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,560 very biased programming, you do the top ten, like you still get 699 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,120 everybody. You pretty much catch everybody. 700 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,120 And then you can invite whoever you want to invite and then the 701 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,720 qualifier will get the rest. I I agree completely, yeah. 702 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:48,920 Well, we're going to move on to keep 5, cut 5, and you guys get 703 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,080 to decide who. Is a is invited to HQ employees? 704 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:54,720 It is not. It is. 705 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,280 That would have been a fun man. What are you saying, John? 706 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,040 I would have liked it. Like if you do, do we have 10 707 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,320 employees at HQI? Think I can come up with 10 708 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,320 employees? Just 10. 709 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,160 You don't think that would be fun, Tyler? 710 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,880 Which five you want to keep? Which five you want? 711 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,920 Dude, let's do. That I don't know if it's that 712 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,440 controversial though. I. 713 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,040 Think you would just keep it at keep 5? 714 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,320 Nope. Nope, I want to cut 5 too. 715 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,360 We're going to look at the rogue invites and after the top ten 716 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,720 who get automatically invited, it's now your guys's job to pick 717 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,360 the women and the men. So you'll have two different 718 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920 keep 5 cut 50. OK, Oh cool, we're going to 719 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,880 vote. I like that. 720 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,920 Who will you invite if you were? If we're a row. 721 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,520 Katie, right. OK. 722 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,840 So we'll just go down the list. You guys got to call it. 723 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,880 I'll pick Amanda Barnhart. Oh, we're. 724 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,160 Just gonna go down the list. You got to put him in the keeper 725 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,960 cut. We can't. 726 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,120 We can't just talk about it. No, no. 727 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,720 We got a schedule to keep John. This is super serious show 728 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:00,720 we're. Going to go to. 729 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,920 We're going to on the list of USA whether you want to keep her 730 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,600 cut and then you can move people around if you get if. 731 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,360 You. I like Amanda. 732 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,600 Barber. I do too, but she hasn't done 733 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,080 anything. She didn't even make the games 734 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,440 this year. John so much. 735 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,800 What have you done for me lately? 736 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,080 I am she's. Rogue is a good event for 737 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,880 Amanda, a lot more than Emma Carey. 738 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,080 You're right. I don't know. 739 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,320 That that was Pick a different name. 740 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,720 It's rogue bro. Yeah, Emma. 741 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,320 Carey's Emma. Carey did very well. 742 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:26,760 Emma Carey is fitter than Amanda. 743 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,360 You. You could have said Hayley 744 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,640 Adams. And I've been with your team. 745 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,760 You picked you just picked the wrong first name. 746 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,120 I'm fine. We can keep her you. 747 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,080 You want to keep her? OK, let's keep her. 748 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,160 We're keeping her. I just feel like she hasn't 749 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560 earned it. We're going to have to take a 750 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,080 hit. Emma McQuaid. 751 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,800 I think we keep her. We can't keep everybody, Tyler. 752 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,240 I no, I'm not saying that she's an Irish. 753 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,200 She's Irish. They're going to Scotland. 754 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,280 I don't like going. In order going in order is going 755 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,280 to kill us right now. I because Tyler can't see past 756 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,240 who your name is. OK, Like you don't dude. 757 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,600 No, we need to skip. Emma. 758 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,200 Well, you want to skip, OK. I want to skip him. 759 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,240 Allowed to skip. OK, Emily, Rolf. 760 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,120 She made the podium, bro, You're going to keep her a cutter? 761 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,040 I think we keep her. I think you're not sure. 762 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,920 I think we keep the next two names and then there's two more 763 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,240 names that I. Think Hilly Adams. 764 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,160 Do no Hilly Adams. All right, she got fit that 765 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,040 rogue. See, this is what I don't like 766 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680 about not talking about it because it's like I want to skip 767 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,480 down that man and and Freyoba. Dude, Haley and Emma Carey will 768 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,000 do so much more at Rogue than Manon and Karen Freova. 769 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,240 It's proven that they would do more. 770 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,800 Five put them on the list. Then we got to argue about one 771 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:04,920 spot. Paige Simenza. 772 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,200 Hi, my next spot is Emma Tall. So you're, you're cutting Paige. 773 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,560 I'd put Paige ahead of Amanda Barnhart. 774 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,640 Quite frankly. I think Paige has earned it more 775 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,320 than Amanda Barnhart has. Well, we can. 776 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,600 We can take Amanda back off the list. 777 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,040 I will put Paige Shimenza over Amanda Barnhart. 778 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,080 Karen Freyova probably should be there, but she did quit. 779 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,080 She was. One of those girls, yeah. 780 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,800 Yeah, she she withdrew. So did. 781 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,280 Well, I'm not considering that. I'm not considering. 782 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,080 You're not going to, you're not going to not invite Laura. 783 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040 OK, Karen, Right. But Karen Freyova is a very, 784 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,440 very strong person. She's she's just as fit as Emma 785 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,160 tall. Like they're different person. 786 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,560 They're different people, but they always rank pretty close to 787 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,040 each other and she's very strong. 788 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,000 I think Karen Freyova and Emmett Tall are locks, but the problem 789 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:59,680 is that Emily Rolfe podiumed and. 790 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,280 Bethany Flores was top five. And Bethany Flores was fourth, 791 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040 right? So like, those two would be 792 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,640 better for Rogue, but Emily Rolf and Bethany Flores just had the 793 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,600 games of their life. And you would have put Emma 794 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,440 McQuaid on there. Why don't you just invite Mal 795 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,520 O'Brien? Why don't we, man? 796 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Celebrity shout out I'm I'm doing it, Mal O'Brien. 797 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,160 Here. OK, let's cut Emma Carry. 798 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,640 Oh, is. That your is that your 799 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,760 compromise? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hear me out, 800 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,880 hear me out. And then don't, don't move it 801 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,840 yet 'cause I need Tyler's. OK, Let's cut Emma Carry, let's 802 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,240 cut Amanda Barnhart. And then we'll put Emma Tall and 803 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,200 Karen Freyova in and we'll look at it. 804 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,720 Done. 'Cause I think the Europeans 805 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:47,200 need the best Europeans out there and the women, Europeans 806 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,360 are very good. The women on the European side, 807 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,480 there's a lot of them and they deserve to be out there. 808 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,280 They they earned being out there. 809 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,960 Bethany Cutt. I think Paige, I think Paige's 810 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120 are she? Didn't do some of the workouts 811 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,800 at Rogue. Paige was top 10. 812 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,280 Paige Demenza. She was at the games, yeah. 813 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,560 Top ten at the games I think and Paige is athletic. 814 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,040 Should that log the log jump one that Danny Spiegel we are all 815 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,560 impressed with that Paige was second barely by her. 816 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,960 I think Paige Demenza is the last keep and then we cut 817 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,280 everybody else. I will leave it to you. 818 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,480 I've said my piece. I just don't like it because 819 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,520 Emma, I would, I would invite, OK. 820 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,920 You have the final decision. It's fine. 821 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,120 I've said my piece, you have the final decision it. 822 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:37,600 Will do what John says, but I want this noted. 823 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,800 Emma should get the invite because she's nearing the end of 824 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,040 her career. She's in Ireland, which is not 825 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,400 very far from Scotland. She's going to draw people over 826 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,280 to Scotland and I think that she'll you'll have a ton of 827 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,560 storytelling parts for that, but we'll go with John. 828 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,240 Adrian will be very happy about this. 829 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,760 Yeah, you'll. Have a ton of storytelling 830 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,760 parts. I am shocked that you guys don't 831 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,120 have Bethany Flores in there. Me too, me too, man. 832 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,200 But like you can't not do half the workouts and that's what she 833 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,480 did. That's what she did at Rogue. 834 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,920 I don't care. I don't care about the. 835 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,680 Games so she never can. She got out there and did 155 836 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,400 and acted like she couldn't clean it fast and then tried to 837 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,720 hype up the crowd when she was in last place doing singles on 838 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,720 155. So you're out at that point I. 839 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:26,280 Don't. I don't care. 840 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,840 I don't care. No, no. 841 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,520 That ruined Bethany Flores for me. 842 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,200 I'm OK with this list. I'm I'm a little surprised that 843 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,920 Karen Fryova. She's the European Amanda 844 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:45,000 Barnhart. Agreed SO. 845 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,640 You're just going to pick European athletes. 846 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,080 I think if rogue. You can't go to Scotland and not 847 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,680 have European athletes. I think it Rogue. 848 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,720 OK, Hey, hey. I think if Rogue was in Texas, 849 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,200 I'll I'll rock with Amanda Barnhart, but if it's in 850 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,680 Scotland, I'm going to say Karen Fryova. 851 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960 I really do. I I think that is a good 852 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,880 comparison. Honestly. 853 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,640 Karen Fryova's fitter than Amanda Barnhart, but they have 854 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,920 similar body types. Like I like that comparison. 855 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,680 Q Hiller Bit. I don't know it nothing Johnny 856 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,680 499. Off topic but question for JY 857 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520 who has a better chance to make the games again between Sarah 858 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,120 Sigmund's daughter and Rebecca Fusolet. 859 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,720 Rebecca. I'm going to say Rebecca Fusole. 860 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,600 I I don't, I think this is an offensive question. 861 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,680 I think Sarah's done. I think the sport has passed 862 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,000 Sarah up. I'm sorry. 863 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,080 I love Sarah. I wish that was not the case, 864 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,880 but I think that is the case. I don't think they the sport is 865 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,720 either is even passed something up. 866 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,200 I think Sarah has not accepted that she is passed the sport up. 867 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:56,960 You mean you don't think Sarah's? 868 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,440 He doesn't want to. She's not in has. 869 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,880 Passed her board. No, she's not invested anymore, 870 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,440 but she's not accepted it. OK, so she's like half in, half 871 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,360 out. Yes. 872 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,600 And I think, I think Sarah actually could do well if she 873 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,520 could get that together, but I don't think she ever will. 874 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,200 Yeah, put her in the legends. Put Sarah in the legends. 875 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,440 Sarah reminds me if you go way back to Miko Salo right like 876 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,320 Mika was great at the ranch then he had kind of the the eardrum 877 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,360 issue in the ocean and he just never did the sport. 878 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,720 The sport accelerated so fast in 2010 11/12 he. 879 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,200 Couldn't hang. He couldn't like his He always 880 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,480 did the pull ups. He didn't do the butterfly pull 881 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,920 ups. He was like the modified 882 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,760 butterfly kipping pull up. Yeah, he was too slow. 883 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,200 He. Never stopped working, even 884 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,320 though, like he was he was sponsored by Rogue. 885 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,960 Like he was one of the athletes that maybe could have figured it 886 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,760 out. But he he stayed tied to his 887 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,040 job. And it's like, yeah, yeah. 888 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,720 Unfortunate that happens from time to time. 889 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,400 Well, there you go. Emma Tall, Emily Rolf, Hayley 890 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,280 Adams, Karen Freyova, Paige Samenza, and then you're going 891 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,880 to leave at home Amanda Barnhart, which I think she'd be 892 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560 fine with. Emma Carey. 893 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,160 Which I think she'd be fine with. 894 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,920 I don't. I mean, yeah, you know, she 895 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,040 didn't qualify for the games. She's amazing. 896 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,240 Herself if we tell her she's not going. 897 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,880 Neither the man in anganese. Manon will just qualify through 898 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,720 the qualifier again. She will. 899 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,920 She's qualified every year from the. 900 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,040 Qualifier the last two years like she's the only one that has 901 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,240 qualified twice. Yeah, we can cut her. 902 00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:38,920 She's going to get, she's going to qualify another way. 903 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,880 It's. Fine. 904 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,760 Emma McQuaid, you guys are heartless. 905 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,440 And Bethany Flores, I'm not. I think she should be in there. 906 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,400 But you guys? Or punishing her for a previous 907 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,320 sins. You can't. 908 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,360 You can't go to a competition and just be like, yeah, I'm not 909 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,040 going to do. It you've been banned for 24. 910 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,440 Months and take the weights off of the squat rack so you can 911 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,200 squat 135. Yeah, yeah, you can't do that, 912 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,680 man. You've ruined the competition 913 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,120 for everybody that's there watching. 914 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,800 What are you doing? What are you doing? 915 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,080 I can't do it. Well, Danielle had to sit there 916 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,400 and and stare at the heavy barbell and. 917 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,840 The back squat? That's due to inability. 918 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,320 Yeah, she tried. I I watched her fail three times 919 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,560 and then she's like, I can't do it. 920 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,440 I'm like, you're right. You. 921 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,600 Can't. Do it. 922 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,720 Nothing. Just knew earlier. 923 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,080 She just knew earlier. She didn't have to try. 924 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,920 She knew she couldn't work. Out I can't. 925 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,120 You get. You get one of those, you don't 926 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,320 get like 3. Even the last workout was just a 927 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,960 desert tried to hype the. Crowd up, I'm supposed. 928 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,680 To be one of the fittest women in the world and Tyler Watkins 929 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,280 can beat me in this workout because I can't clean and jerk 930 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,080 155. Did she do the deadlift ladder? 931 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,840 I don't know. I don't know if she did. 932 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,200 I don't know if she did a deadlift. 933 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,920 I think she may have bailed out. Half of the competition I just, 934 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,720 I just. You're out the next year no 935 00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:07,560 matter what. I just don't. 936 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,200 Care. I'm sorry, I don't care. 937 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,600 How penalty box? I just don't care like next time 938 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,840 do all do it and like and I'll do it. 939 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,440 My my tune will change my tune will change so hard. 940 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,240 You got. To fail, Daniel. 941 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,000 The plan and. Tried and failed. 942 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,560 There's no problem with that. I got no problem with that, 943 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,480 right? Bethany Flores didn't try. 944 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,120 And whether you say my back was hurt, I'm not going to try and 945 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,560 risk injury. Then don't do the competition. 946 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:45,200 All right, men. OK. 947 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,160 Taylor Smith on We keep him. We're missing a name. 948 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,320 There's. Probably plenty of names on. 949 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,200 He's he's 27th. If you want to go ahead and add 950 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,600 him real quick, you reach. Way down into the bottom there. 951 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,800 He would be. He would beat everybody on this 952 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,760 list. I'm telling you right now, 953 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,880 everybody on this list, you would. 954 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,800 Be I think they made some. I think they made some updates 955 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,440 because James is now 25th but. It's it's. 956 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,280 Outdated. I think Chandler and Sprague, 957 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,520 yeah, I think we put Chandler and Sprague in the key. 958 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,440 I think you just Chandler has proven himself over the years at 959 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,280 Rogue. This is going to get hard. 960 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,600 OK, here's OK, hear me out in this I OK, I'm looking at 961 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:37,480 Fukowski and Yella, same guy. One's Canadian, one's European, 962 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,480 and one is fitter and one is. Fitter how are they the same at? 963 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,360 All and one is fitter than the other. 964 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,240 I think you put Brent over yellow. 965 00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,240 Yellow is too weak for me to invite. 966 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:51,320 Oh, yellow. Although but what did he do at 967 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,560 Rogue last year? Wasn't he OK at Rogue last? 968 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,400 Year or was he trash? Let's see, last year. 969 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,080 If you have to pick one of them, you pick Brent. 970 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,560 He he was on the podium, yeah. You can't. 971 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,800 Anybody's on the podium. You have. 972 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,360 To fight, they took the leaderboard down. 973 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,520 He always won the gates. No, no, no, it's up there. 974 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,520 It's it's I'll, I'll find it. I'll effort it. 975 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,800 Do you want to put Brent there? And then I kind of. 976 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,720 Think do we? Want to give that spot. 977 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,880 We're going to put Brent on, but I reserved the right to pull him 978 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,520 back off. Brent last year finished fourth. 979 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,440 Remember he he screwed up the last event and got passed by 980 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,400 Roman and Yela. Hosta took 11th. 981 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,320 Yeah, I think of your Brent Quant Koski. 982 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:45,080 I think that's who you invite. You're not even going to hear 983 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,200 out. Travis Mayer Travis Mayer was 984 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,200 six last year at the at the Invitational. 985 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,320 Or corn. Roy. 986 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,440 Why? Why not invite him? 987 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,680 Dude, this is he can't. Do a competition either he's 988 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,760 just best Bethany, what are you talking about? 989 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,360 He's going to get sick, He'll be, he'll eat some. 990 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,800 I, I think, I think Brent was on the podium. 991 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,120 You can't not invite him. I he's like the same boat as 992 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,480 Spray, not as. OK. 993 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,120 Move Brent over that's. Fine, I think Quant has proven 994 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,800 himself. Quant was 6th place at the 995 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,160 games. He's going to have home runs at 996 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,480 Rogue, he always does. I'm not saying he will place 997 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,320 high at Rogue, but he's going to have really good events and then 998 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,720 maybe not so good events. And then Koski's the fittest 999 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:30,120 European. I think those are your five. 1000 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,680 Like the only argument that I think you have is Saxon and 1001 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,920 Saxon's not. I just don't think Saxon's going 1002 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,120 to be good at Rogue 'cause he's little and he doesn't have good 1003 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,520 power output. No, he didn't do very well at. 1004 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,040 Like workouts like Firestorm, go look at go look at Pat Panchik's 1005 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,240 score. Any workout where it's like a 1006 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,560 Sprint like that, go look at the Panchik's. 1007 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,840 They're terrible power output is not their friend. 1008 00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,680 And rogue will always have a couple events like that and then 1009 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,240 like Panchik will do really, really good on the one GHD ski 1010 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:07,720 combo that they put out and then that's it and that's it, right? 1011 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,320 Quant, I think has. He's earned it. 1012 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,200 I think he's proven himself. Koski is the fittest European in 1013 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840 all of Europe, even though he didn't make the games he is. 1014 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,080 I would put Koski as the fittest guy in Europe. 1015 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,760 So you say both in agreement Cole is cut? 1016 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,800 Cole's out. Yellow's cut. 1017 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,640 Corn Wyatt can't do a can't do a competition without without. 1018 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,720 Getting sick? Regrettably, I think Travis is 1019 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:39,840 out, even though it it would be a decent competition for him. 1020 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,720 I think at this point I would rather see Sam at the 1021 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,800 competition and if we're cutting Sam, we need to cut Travis and 1022 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,880 then Panchex. Out. 1023 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,280 I'm interested why you're so high on cornway. 1024 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:55,360 'Cause he's he could be so good. We save this every year. 1025 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,000 By hand snatch 300 lbs and I know you're going to say, well, 1026 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,400 that's not that impressive, Tyler. 1027 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:05,400 It is that it is impressive and it shows that like, I mean like 1028 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,120 when Rich dips out and it's like you got this match like and that 1029 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,640 was years ago. Yeah. 1030 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,000 Sam's definitely better than he was then. 1031 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,560 He I think he man, just keep him out of Kroger for away from the 1032 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,680 listeria and let's look. At his 5K time, let's go by 5K 1033 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,400 time. So go to go to last year's 1034 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,520 games, last year's games and we'll go by 5K time and that's 1035 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,320 who we'll put in. I I don't know who did what, but 1036 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,560 let's just do that. Who? 1037 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,400 Between who? All these guys. 1038 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,080 Well, Saxon wasn't there. Well, that's out on him, I 1039 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,600 think. Saxon's out anyway. 1040 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,280 I agree with John and I don't think he's done well at Rogue in 1041 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:42,800 the past. I'm. 1042 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,160 Going to tell you something Tyler Samuel Cormier was second 1043 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,000 to. Last, he didn't do well. 1044 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,000 He was. He was running with Bron. 1045 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,760 Bron was doing his best man. He tried as hard as anyone. 1046 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:00,280 Yeah. All right. 1047 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,600 Going down the list, This is right. 1048 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,920 Well, Sam Cormier Quant 11th Travis wasn't there. 1049 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,480 Travis was not there. He was nursing a. 1050 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,960 And there's Koski. Man, I just lucked out on that. 1051 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,520 I guess that was. Heinrich beat Koski in a 5K. 1052 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,440 Yeah, yeah, he did go down and find Kowai. 1053 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,120 That's like a. Did he even? 1054 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:32,600 And I would be losing to. 1/4 mile he held off Bronislaw. 1055 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:33,960 Sprinted. Barely. 1056 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,120 Yeah. Held him off 1316 seconds. 1057 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:45,680 Great kick at the end. Kwan Kowski. 1058 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,800 I hope Travis isn't watching or his parents. 1059 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,160 Parents are great people. Have you lost faith in Travis 1060 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,920 after this games? Are you off of them? 1061 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,080 Yeah, I it really is. But he gets six. 1062 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,960 He gets 6 at the Invitational. Two years ago, he got 6. 1063 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,880 You could have held up an argument here, Tyler. 1064 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,800 I would have heard you out. The way the wave is over. 1065 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,320 Like Chandler Smith, great performances at Travis. 1066 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:22,720 Did better at last year's Invitational than Chandler I. 1067 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,320 He's like Noah to you now. He's just, I mean. 1068 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,560 I I would trade him for Quant, but I think Quant's going to do 1069 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,560 better. Maybe not. 1070 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,680 I guess you're. So. 1071 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,000 Wishy washy. It's it's just people were 1072 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,320 making fun of me for sitting on both sides of the fences. 1073 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,560 I even sit on the both sides of the fences myself. 1074 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,520 I just I see the inner confliction and. 1075 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,640 Yeah, Quant was even there last. To me, you could trade either of 1076 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,120 them out, it doesn't really matter. 1077 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,000 Mayor or quant? I I agree, I agree with you. 1078 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,960 I think they're very similar athletes and and Quant just did 1079 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,520 a lot better at the Games. Travis would probably bring a 1080 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,040 better show he has moments in like when he does have there are 1081 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,400 events where. He'll he'll send you. 1082 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,960 I agree with that. You're out, Tyler. 1083 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:24,440 OK, I can't argue too much. Would you replace any of these 1084 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:30,320 guys with Colton or Austin? Yes, I would send both of those 1085 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,880 guys. Over who? 1086 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,560 Over who? Quan Koski. 1087 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,680 You can't. You can't trade Koski Koski's 1088 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,160 off limits. OK, OK. 1089 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,720 I I would take both of those guys over Quan and Brent. 1090 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,200 Here's the thing, though. Colton and Austin don't play 1091 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,320 well in the European market. They're American, and they're 1092 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,640 like they will after this. They're American Americans, and 1093 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,680 like the the Europeans don't get it. 1094 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880 They are Americans. I get it. 1095 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,720 They're they're Midwest Americans. 1096 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,160 Like I, I get what you're saying. 1097 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,000 They're yeah. We like them because they're us. 1098 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,920 Yeah. The Europeans are like I we 1099 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,680 don't even like America halfway. That's why I want to send them. 1100 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,880 I want invasion, I want to send our best and I want to invade 1101 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,840 Europe. Said send our troll, our hobbits 1102 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,360 over. Yeah, I mean, Chandler, Chandler 1103 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,280 fits that mold a little bit too. Like, let's be honest, like. 1104 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:41,560 Yeah, a little bit. So there you go, Richard 1105 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,200 Margarine replaced Brent with Colton. 1106 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,360 No. I'm yeah, I said. 1107 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,720 Brent and Quan, I replace them both. 1108 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,120 There you go. There you go. 1109 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,880 Let's see. All right, well, I think it's 1110 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:10,080 time for some PFAA. All this before we I open up the 1111 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,360 the call in. I did want to draw some 1112 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:19,080 attention to some stuff on threads. 1113 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,640 Is it just me or the did this week? 1114 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,680 Everybody's like, I guess we're going to do threads now. 1115 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,160 Yeah, it was weird. Let me see if I can't find. 1116 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,360 It it's like threads could get no traction and I swear this 1117 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,840 week I've gotten like 18 notifications that's. 1118 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,680 Like dude. You know, so and so on. 1119 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:43,000 Threads. If somebody posts a thread, I'm 1120 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,480 not looking at. It you're not going to look at 1121 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,560 it, no. What if it was from Christophe 1122 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,040 Orbath 2 hours ago? Means nothing to me. 1123 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,880 First one, actions speak louder than words. 1124 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,920 We stood up not because we've seen an opportunity. 1125 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,520 I think you're talking to Tyler. Directly to Tyler. 1126 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,080 He made this for Tyler. But because we wanted to mourn a 1127 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,080 friend, it'd. Be wild if that's true. 1128 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,200 Did you say they were doing this for an opportunity to be seen? 1129 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,360 I said that they were taking advantage of an opportunity that 1130 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,280 exists, but it wasn't necessarily their intent. 1131 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,920 This might be at you there, man. Like that? 1132 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,080 That's pretty word for word. OK so this doesn't happen and 1133 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,400 you do the same thing. Fuck off. 1134 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,160 What do you? Mean. 1135 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,520 Like they they weren't this gung ho about it before. 1136 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,400 If it was this important, you would have done this before. 1137 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,640 Yeah, I'm not against you. I I'm just saying this might be 1138 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,400 directed to you. That's what I'm saying. 1139 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,280 But I'm it's the royal fuck off, everybody fuck off, not John, 1140 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,920 OK? So I feel like you're mad at me, 1141 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,600 you know, I. Don't know, no. 1142 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,840 So yeah, they wanted to do this because they wanted to mourn for 1143 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:04,240 a friend and a fellow competitor and because our group, I'm not 1144 01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,880 sure who the group is, but their group believes that they're 1145 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,320 directly responsible for his death. 1146 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,600 So they're is directly responsible for his death and 1147 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,960 there and there. I guess Crossfit's response. 1148 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:21,560 To it was inhumane and was driven by in quote, values of a 1149 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,000 corporation whose Basic Instinct is survival and profit. 1150 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,920 I'm trying to see this from his point of view. 1151 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,600 I, I I. Can totally see this from his 1152 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,840 point of view now. When you say directly. 1153 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:47,160 Responsible for his death I. Have a hard time with that? 1154 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,680 Taylor and I got into this. Because I mean even Travis. 1155 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,880 Travis is like, really, really no. 1156 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,280 That's the only thing he cares about is finding who's 1157 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,120 responsible for it, like the death, and then like firing that 1158 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,720 person. Or or, you know, somebody has to 1159 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,280 be. Responsible he's very on that 1160 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,800 and I just I had a vision of Travis from. 1161 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,200 What's that movie where taken but Travis is like? 1162 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,160 I have no skills and but I will find you. 1163 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,240 I don't know how. I don't know how I will. 1164 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,120 Well, I will. But I but it's going to but it's 1165 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,120 going to happen. Like directly responsible. 1166 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,480 You're basically saying they killed him and. 1167 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,440 I. Disagree with that? 1168 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,640 I don't think they did a good job. 1169 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,160 Saving him. That's a fair way to. 1170 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,480 Say it. I think those are two. 1171 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:54,000 Different things I pushed. On Taylor about this. 1172 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:59,840 Because he was like and before I say this, find you. 1173 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:01,640 This was just. After the event, I'm sure 1174 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,600 Taylor's opinion is morphed or or refined itself, but he was 1175 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,320 like, I don't know that it's anybody's fault. 1176 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,760 We were working through this at the house and I was like, 1177 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:16,320 Taylor, somebody died and it's nobody's fault that doesn't. 1178 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,080 Make sense to me? Why? 1179 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,160 I mean mostly because I've seen the video where he struggles 1180 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,520 for. Over a minute, yeah. 1181 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,880 No, I think it's a multitude of people. 1182 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,640 I think it, I think it's, I think there could be higher. 1183 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,440 Safety like. More, way more safety things in 1184 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,080 place, way more lifeguards. I think if the two lifeguards 1185 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,120 were actual lifeguards and water safety people, that would have 1186 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,240 helped. I think if you don't turn away 1187 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,560 the guy trying to save him, like, like there's, there's, I 1188 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,520 think so many people are responsible and ultimately 1189 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,280 that's going to land on the person who's the head of the 1190 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,680 operation, which is Dave. Right or. 1191 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,680 Unless there's a chief safety officer out there and he's 1192 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:05,080 responsible for the safety, but like saying CrossFit is directly 1193 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,120 responsible. I think a multitude of things 1194 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,240 happened and it was kind of a freak thing that happened and 1195 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,120 then the efforts to save him weren't there. 1196 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,400 That's not. That's not. 1197 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,200 CrossFit killed. Him that's that's not. 1198 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,200 I don't agree with that. I'm not, but I don't think I. 1199 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,600 Don't know that. That's what he's saying. 1200 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,760 Even with, That's what it sounds like to me, not. 1201 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,320 It's not what it sounds like to. Me. 1202 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,560 You're still saying there's group culpability in your in 1203 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,760 your own? Explanation. 1204 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,520 I think you. Have laid out a case for group 1205 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,600 culpability. They are. 1206 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,560 They had the. Chance or they had the 1207 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,360 opportunity to succeed in responding and they did not they 1208 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,840 the only thing I will say. Yes, we did see him what 1209 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,640 appeared to be struggling now we also saw him 100. 1210 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,640 Meters in doing. Breaststroke, Breaststroke and 1211 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,400 bobbing up and down and. Then turning over. 1212 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:10,640 And whatever, we don't know any autopsy results, it's not been 1213 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:15,360 published. Now, Luca was in comments last 1214 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,160 night saying that he didn't have a heart, heart condition, 1215 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:25,640 etcetera. But again, I'm not. 1216 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,760 Ready to say that? It has to be somebody. 1217 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,880 'S fault again. The autopsy could come back and 1218 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,760 say that he had a heart attack and like they could have gotten 1219 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,000 to him and it wouldn't have mattered. 1220 01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,840 Like I want to withhold. And wait for that. 1221 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,120 I and I I'm not passing judgement and. 1222 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,880 Saying anybody is responsible either. 1223 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,960 I'm just making the case that you could make that case and I'm 1224 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,439 OK and I'm fine. With them making that case and 1225 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,560 like I'm gonna use their group I and that's that's what I'm 1226 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:57,680 doing. I'm putting myself. 1227 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,479 In Kristoff's shoes, and if you if that's how. 1228 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:07,319 You believe and that's fine and you like are boycotting all 1229 01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:10,120 CrossFit events like that's that's your right, that's your 1230 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,920 fine. You know you're fine like you go 1231 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,800 do that right. I don't think that means that 1232 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:21,000 you're like, you should chastise everybody that's not on the same 1233 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,040 train. And I do think that's happening 1234 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,960 and I don't think those things go hand in. 1235 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,439 Hand. I think you go do that and then 1236 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:34,800 you don't put four thread pieces out that everybody is a terrible 1237 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,640 person that because they're not standing against CrossFit the 1238 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,600 way we are. Did he do that? 1239 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,200 There's there's another one I'll. 1240 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,920 Get to it here in a second. There's just, there's a lot of 1241 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,120 things like that. I'm not. 1242 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaking just of Kris Kristoff. But there's a lot of things that 1243 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:54,080 are like that, and I wholeheartedly disagree about 1244 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,960 that. The dysregulated and. 1245 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:04,600 Hormonally imbalance SEMA also notice seema boobs and also 1246 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,760 known as going through some stuff. 1247 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,520 Aren't you? Do you know if anyone has? 1248 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,600 Done an open records request for the emergency action plan. 1249 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:23,240 I think that would require it to be run by the city, right? 1250 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,240 If CrossFit is. Responsible for. 1251 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,680 Everything. That goes on for the special 1252 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,280 event. Which I believe it is. 1253 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,160 CrossFit was the one that was in charge and taking on all the 1254 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,280 risk, all the risk of this. I don't think you get that from 1255 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,280 a open records request. I'm. 1256 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:48,400 Sure, somebody has. Tried to get something but I 1257 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,640 don't think that. Would include it. 1258 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,400 Could be wrong, but I do think they're going to wait for 1259 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,560 whatever. Investigation to be done and for 1260 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,720 all those things to be published and known before any type of 1261 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:05,960 action happens within HQ, whether that's Castro or Don or 1262 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,160 the media team or anybody. I think, I think, I think we 1263 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,640 have to wait for that before anything happens. 1264 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:18,600 Don't we also have this PDF? The. 1265 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,960 PDF that I have. Says that CrossFit. 1266 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,360 Was responsible if seema. If you have something different, 1267 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,680 message me. I love this. 1268 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,080 She's like you. Guys suck. 1269 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,400 I'm just doing it no for it. Thank you Seema. 1270 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:38,880 We're a small team over here. So and then of course. 1271 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:43,920 Kristof. Follows that up shortly after to 1272 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,320 sacrifice. For the greater good. 1273 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,680 Was then and there. I assume that's on Thursday. 1274 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,520 One of the greatest lessons. I've learned is that acting out 1275 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,960 of fear will move the masses into the direction of its 1276 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,680 creator, and human greed is more powerful. 1277 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,800 Than I've. Ever imagined? 1278 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,160 I am not against chain against of. 1279 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,160 Change and the group that's trying to take steps towards it, 1280 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,720 but I'm conflicted. Within mostly because my. 1281 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,680 Trust is lost in most of my peers. 1282 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:22,920 This is what I'm talking about, Tyler. 1283 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,600 I. It seemed. 1284 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,520 It reads to me like he's talking. 1285 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,720 About everyone on both sides. I I disagree. 1286 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,320 I think he's talking about and everybody that's. 1287 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,880 Not a part of the group that was mainly against doing the games, 1288 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,760 but I. Don't understand like I am not 1289 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,560 against. Change in the group that's 1290 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,000 trying to take steps towards it. Is that the PFAA? 1291 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,880 Yeah, that's what I think he's talking about. 1292 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,840 Is like. Hey, that's why I think he's on 1293 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,720 both sides of this equation. Is he mad? 1294 01:12:55,720 --> 01:13:01,160 Because the. PFAA, Brent and Pat continued 1295 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,000 competing, yet are. Asking for change. 1296 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,680 No, no, I think. They're separate I. 1297 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,880 Think he's on? The side of PFAA and then 1298 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,200 everybody who's not on that side, he's lost trust in those 1299 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,880 peers, but he's saying he's conflicted with that group 1300 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,240 because he's. Lost trust in his peers like, 1301 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,680 well, the peers could be. I don't think he's talking about 1302 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,200 the. People that are trying to make. 1303 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,640 The changes in the group, I think those are two separate, 1304 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,040 but why is he conflicted then? Like he's conflicted about 1305 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,400 continuing. CrossFit. 1306 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,560 Like CrossFit in general. So he doesn't care if it 1307 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,880 changes. He just wants to walk away. 1308 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,920 He's he's he's OK with. Changes happening. 1309 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,400 He's OK with trying to change it to make it better, but like it's 1310 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,160 like that versus burning it down. 1311 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,600 What I'm saying not against change wants to. 1312 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,080 Burn it down, but not against change in. 1313 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,120 The group that's trying to take steps towards. 1314 01:13:54,120 --> 01:14:00,800 It AKA the PFAA but I am conflicted mostly because of my 1315 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,240 My trust is lost in most of my peers and his peers are CrossFit 1316 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,320 athletes but he's. Why would you say that first 1317 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,560 half of the sentence? If you weren't talking about the 1318 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,640 PFAA, I don't think he's talking about just the PFAAI think. 1319 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,280 He's fine with the. PFAA and then everybody that 1320 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,560 competed, he's lost his trust in those people, which includes 1321 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:28,600 people in the PFAA. Which we don't even know who's 1322 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:33,520 in the PFAA other than the. We know who's not the PFAA. 1323 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,440 Rich ferning we. Need to have Gabby on the. 1324 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:40,200 Podcast. Ring her up. 1325 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,400 Why don't you reach your? Yeah, Gabby, if you're. 1326 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,360 Watching. Call in here in a second. 1327 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,200 You got my number. Just go ahead. 1328 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,080 Let's go ahead and do it. And then he. 1329 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,280 Ends in a very primitive way. I think it is truer than ever. 1330 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,520 You can't have your cake and eat it too. 1331 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:01,880 Try me. I'm going to eat the mess out of 1332 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:02,920 this. Cake bro, I'm I'm going. 1333 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,040 To. Eat this. 1334 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,720 You going to respond? You going to reply, you want to 1335 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,000 respond. I was trying to see what the on. 1336 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:18,080 Behalf of the Barbell Spin. Just put the group JY, Tyler and 1337 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:27,720 I, Mr. Piperon, have hereby. Y'all y'all do the next part I I 1338 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,480 did the intro. I'd rather talk to somebody on 1339 01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:34,280 the phone. Three comments. 1340 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,520 So you're happy, so happy you're speaking out. 1341 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,120 So much respect for your parents that raised two beautiful humans 1342 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,400 with a platform. Is that like? 1343 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,440 Facetiousness or like I think it's, I think it's this is 1344 01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:49,680 never. Facetious. 1345 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,680 OK. And then after watching your 1346 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:53,680 friend. Lose their life the. 1347 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,000 Negligence of the sport. It blows my mind that anyone 1348 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,560 could suggest that your choice to withdraw from the Games was 1349 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,320 born out of some opportunistic desire that's. 1350 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,080 All you No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1351 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:07,800 No, no, no. I can't believe. 1352 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,240 You'd say something like that bro? 1353 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,920 That's that's I. I was telling Genette this is 1354 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,120 worse than your Nazi ties. Honestly. 1355 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:24,520 Don't make jokes. Don't make jokes, I was telling 1356 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,320 Jeanette. About this. 1357 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,160 You know, it's like I I gave. Brent, kind of a. 1358 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:34,040 Pretty rough time yesterday I think upon further examination 1359 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,160 of the evidence, I think what Brent did, yes the PFAA did 1360 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,200 yesterday was pretty weak. Damn move. 1361 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,560 I don't know who assisted him in that, but I would. 1362 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,880 Have told him like hey you need more. 1363 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,160 Before you move forward, he brought he brought a plastic 1364 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,360 spoon to a gunfight. Like what are you doing bro? 1365 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,280 You need you need the report saying that that was. 1366 01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:01,040 Preventable. But I don't I, I don't even 1367 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,520 think he needs that. He needs more. 1368 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,440 Athletes to be backing him and they need to be willing to pull 1369 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:08,040 out there. He has no threat. 1370 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,160 He basically said fire Dave or what? 1371 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,200 You've lost our trust, Yeah. Well, we didn't have your trust, 1372 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,160 so it doesn't matter. Laura. 1373 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,200 Put her money where her mouth is. 1374 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,640 She gave up 100. 1000. Something dollars. 1375 01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:27,720 So she gave up $60,000. Is it 60 for second? 1376 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,840 She ain't. Getting 2nd. 1377 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,080 That's my point, Tyler. Well, she'd have been. 5th place 1378 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,520 at. This games the same in normal. 1379 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,600 Games. Let's pretend that she thought 1380 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,240 she was going to get second. No, I'm sorry. 1381 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:40,200 I'll go. Ahead, go ahead I'm. 1382 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:41,520 I'm messing you up. Go. 1383 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,600 She she pulled out. She like didn't. 1384 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,280 She just gave that money up. She put her money right where 1385 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,640 her mouth is and that's respectable to me. 1386 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,840 That that's why I think what I agree with her or not, That's 1387 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,240 why. I think Christophe is mad at 1388 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,960 those who continue to compete who are now part of the PFA or 1389 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,320 are part of the PFA trying to ask for change. 1390 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:02,600 Right. They didn't. 1391 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,760 They did not withdraw. Oh, having your cake and eating 1392 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,760 it too. Right, they they competed, they 1393 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,600 they made the. Money you got your paycheck, but 1394 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,000 now we're. Gonna fight. 1395 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,040 For it, you guys should have stood on your values and. 1396 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,080 Done this right away. I think that's where he's going. 1397 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,120 Gabby. Voted on the pole. 1398 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,240 I did not see her. No extra. 1399 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,240 Sloppy Esquire. TS said it best. 1400 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,560 If it were me, I'd want my peers to compete. 1401 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,880 I don't know how he can take a moral high ground against that 1402 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,080 perspective. I agree completely. 1403 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,000 Taylor Smith he's talking about. Brent throwing the games. 1404 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:54,000 Brent didn't throw the games. Tyler's an expert at knowing. 1405 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,320 When people throwing, he didn't quit. 1406 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,320 No, he. He. 1407 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,680 Gave it at all? Blew the. 1408 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,760 Freak up his way he. He. 1409 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,320 He. Lost in the most respectable 1410 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,200 manner. He gave it everything he had. 1411 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,360 The phone line is open. If you want to. 1412 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,600 Weigh in on Mr. Horvath, anything on the PFAA if. 1413 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,320 Tell us your thoughts. Who is if? 1414 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,360 Mark wants to call. He's, well, Mark. 1415 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,000 He was very, very adamant about opening the phone lines 1416 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,400 yesterday. He probably unfollowed us last 1417 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,960 night. I was like, you know what? 1418 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,800 These guys aren't taking my hands. 1419 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,680 Caller welcome. To the spin, Spin, yeah. 1420 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,320 Buddy, what's happening? This is Colton. 1421 01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:38,360 Hey. I want to. 1422 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,760 Add a English teacher's perspective. 1423 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,600 To the PFA's request, because this is the only insight 1424 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,560 professionally I can bring to the conversation. 1425 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:51,800 We know how to read back in my. Back. 1426 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,440 In my high school teacher days. We did five paragraph essays. 1427 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,920 You start with an introduction and your thesis to three points. 1428 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,200 The PFFA has that, but they didn't. 1429 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,400 Explain their thoughts. And that's where their big 1430 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,400 issue. Is and that's where you can see. 1431 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,040 It they clearly have an audience. 1432 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,440 The audience has CrossFit. They have their demands, but 1433 01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:14,720 they don't. Explain their thoughts. 1434 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,080 I know Tyler has an issue with John Singleton from last year 1435 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:23,560 and his math not math and on the lane 6 slow runner so when he 1436 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,480 had he. Posted a. 1437 01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:30,960 Video, he explained his thought. Process, he said. 1438 01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,200 Here's what I would like done. Here's my math. 1439 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,160 CrossFit can then go, hey, we see your argument. 1440 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,600 We may disagree with it, but here's some changes we can make. 1441 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,280 And they said we'll calibrate machine agree or disagree. 1442 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,560 They made an action step on it. It allowed CrossFit to check the 1443 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,800 numbers, run their own numbers, allowed Tyler, other people with 1444 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,240 actual degrees in math to say, you know what, actually that's 1445 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,360 statistically significant. But it was a starting point 1446 01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,440 because you had a conversation, you showed your work. 1447 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,720 The PSA here. Doesn't show their work. 1448 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,640 And unfortunately, that doesn't start a conversation. 1449 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,960 And I think it would have been really useful if they would just 1450 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,960 had a vlog, 12 minutes, 4 minutes per point, explaining 1451 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,640 how their thought process came about and why they want what 1452 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,520 they want, then CrossFit and then act on it. 1453 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,320 And it has a secondary benefit that athletes that maybe aren't 1454 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,200 involved will go. You know what, that's a 1455 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:29,600 reasonable thought process. I want to join in I, I. 1456 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,840 I actually really like what? With what you're saying, I 1457 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,720 didn't have a a problem with John Singleton, just that his 1458 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,320 math was wrong. But I I like John, I do all my 1459 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:40,720 math in my head. So what? 1460 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,360 That's what. I want to say is that. 1461 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,800 I I thought I had a similar thought today and that I thought 1462 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,680 Brent should have talked to the camera. 1463 01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:53,920 Brent is a compelling person and he is a really great speaker. 1464 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,800 He there's something wrong with. This where he's. 1465 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,920 Like I need to be official, this needs to be laid out on A and it 1466 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,680 just got all got lost in translation. 1467 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,720 But this dude can move groups. I've seen him do it. 1468 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,880 He's always compelling at the games and he didn't. 1469 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:10,800 Talk to the. Camera. 1470 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,120 It would have made such a difference and this is not me 1471 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:15,520 disagreeing or agreeing with this. 1472 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,280 'Cause it's just like. This is a presentation thing. 1473 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,120 Yeah, I think that the. I think Brent and the. 1474 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,520 PFAA went, I mean they had they put out an official press 1475 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,960 release. It's now on their website. 1476 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,200 It's basically this plus some quotes from Brent and I don't 1477 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,720 know, a couple letters. I think. 1478 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,000 Their thought was the Men's Health article and the Morning 1479 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,480 Chalk Up article were there. Why? 1480 01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,640 Right. Like, each of those added a 1481 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,600 little bit more context into it. The problem is nobody reads 1482 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:49,600 Men's Health or Morning Chalk up and so, well, you just don't. 1483 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,880 There's that aspect, but tone. Doesn't come across. 1484 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,160 Very well. Written. 1485 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,840 You have to be an extremely skilled writer to get tone and 1486 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,360 emotion to come across in a written format. 1487 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,840 You have to be really careful with your words. 1488 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,240 When you do it in person, that tone, that emotion comes across 1489 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,160 really well. And Brent is very good at that. 1490 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,120 I mean, his TTT podcast will professionalize in sport. 1491 01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:13,440 You see his passion, you see his thought process and he comes 1492 01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:15,680 across very well. He does so. 1493 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:19,640 Well, in camera that not doing that really dismissed diminished 1494 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,960 the message because it wasn't as strong and wasn't as far as it 1495 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,000 could have been. You're you're 100% that podcast. 1496 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,280 Is actually a great example of what I'm talking about. 1497 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,400 I wonder what went into the thought. 1498 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,840 Process of releasing. It today, like I, I, they're 1499 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,480 100% had to be like a thought process, like we have to get 1500 01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:42,800 this out. Like this is the day we're doing 1501 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,240 this. There had to be thoughts and 1502 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,880 planned out. I I'm curious at what the 1503 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,600 thinking was there 'cause I'm with Tyler like you, just you 1504 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,600 don't have enough people behind you that want the same. 1505 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,960 Thing to make. This happen when when I see it, 1506 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,240 it looks. I would agree with you and 1507 01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:03,800 normally with Brent I would think it was more thought out 1508 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:11,560 but this reads emotional to me. It it seemed like but if. 1509 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:12,800 It reads emotional, but it doesn't. 1510 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,440 Have emotion it doesn't have the fact, no. 1511 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,760 I don't. I'm not saying the the. 1512 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,040 Emotion of this the emotion of the words does not read. 1513 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:25,560 Emotional it is the content of it reads as if it was rushed and 1514 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,560 it was not as well thought out, AKA it was emotionally driven. 1515 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,600 That's what I'm saying. I'm reading. 1516 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,200 I'm reading between lines so to speak. 1517 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,560 C plus demand paper and I think. But think of the next. 1518 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,000 Steps that could have been so effective. 1519 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:45,120 You could have had Brent, Pat, Victoria, Royce on the spin. 1520 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,640 You could have had them on the Mayhem podcast with Royce and 1521 01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,640 the Mayhem affiliation. There would have been 6-7 1522 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,840 podcasts where they could have each gotten across their message 1523 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,000 to their different demographics locally and united the athletes 1524 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,960 in those regions to rally behind the call. 1525 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,160 Yep, and that's what they should have done. 1526 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,440 I I. Thought that this needs to be 1527 01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:05,400 like a. It treated like a discussion and 1528 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,080 and treated a little differently or or rated as such. 1529 01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:12,080 Yeah. Thank you. 1530 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,320 Caller appreciate it. No, I have. 1531 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,800 I've actually reached out. I've reached out. 1532 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,560 That was that was a really thought out. 1533 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,280 Caller, I'm not used to we have we have some classy, classy. 1534 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:31,720 Listeners, come on. In Hey, hang on one second 1535 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,400 caller. Taylor's the next. 1536 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,320 Caller, make sure you guys. Are idiots. 1537 01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:37,760 Yeah, yeah. Make sure you turn down. 1538 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,080 Your the. The the. 1539 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,720 The show, but I actually have. I've reached out to Brent. 1540 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,680 I reached out to him late this afternoon to see if there's any 1541 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,360 chance he could join. Unfortunately schedules did not 1542 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,840 work, but he's always welcome anybody from the PFA. 1543 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:52,920 Is always welcome if they. Want to join? 1544 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,520 They can always call in if they want to. 1545 01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:01,080 But yeah, if Brent wants to join, Pat, whoever wants to 1546 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,480 explain. You're welcome, caller. 1547 01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:06,800 Go ahead. Yeah, this is Mark. 1548 01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,640 There he is there. He is. 1549 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,360 What's up Mark? So the point I was trying to get 1550 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,200 across. Yesterday that seems to be lost 1551 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:22,200 on most parties and somewhat surprising that Brent hasn't 1552 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:26,880 thought this through is the PFAA is essentially a club right now. 1553 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:29,960 They haven't actually established themselves as any 1554 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,960 sort of official association. You can't just name an 1555 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,040 association, get 40 athletes to sign up, but not all competing 1556 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:42,480 athletes to sign up and have it actually mean something and come 1557 01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:45,200 to the table and collectively bargain and agree. 1558 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:50,600 Now the opportunity presented itself, obviously with Lazar's 1559 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,440 death, but that's where their leverage was. 1560 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,560 They could finally get more people to sign up, then come to 1561 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,760 CrossFit and say we're officially have their lawyers 1562 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,440 come to CrossFit and say we're establishing Professional 1563 01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:07,320 Fitness Athletes Association. And then you're able to bargain 1564 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,520 and collectively bargain for your demands. 1565 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,280 And it seems like there was a rush to get their feelings out. 1566 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,640 And now the opportunity is lost because you're not going to be 1567 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,440 able to retroactively go back. You're going to have people that 1568 01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:24,560 are going to pull back from the PSFA that don't agree with sort 1569 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,080 of how they're going about things. 1570 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,360 And your opportunity for unity is lost. 1571 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,600 And that was sort of the point that I feel like it's getting 1572 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:36,520 lost yesterday, yeah. No, I get it. 1573 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:41,280 I think the hard part with. This is you have a very. 1574 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,360 Every year. Anybody new can come into this 1575 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,920 right? There's however, 300,000 people 1576 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,920 to the open. Where, where do you draw the 1577 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,720 line on professional right because. 1578 01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,160 You know, somebody could come in that you've never heard of next 1579 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,640 year, not be part of this PFAA. You can't limit them from 1580 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,720 competing, no, but you limit to you. 1581 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,520 Limit to essentially. A sign up at semi finals, same 1582 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,040 way they get drug tested at semi finals, the same way NFL 1583 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,600 draftees and players that come into camp. 1584 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,920 So NFL draftees, there's 272 of them. 1585 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,240 One of the first meetings they have after draft weekend with 1586 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,640 the NFL Players Association and they sign and they pay their 1587 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,840 dues. Then they're able to sign their 1588 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,600 contracts with teams. Same thing with unrestricted 1589 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,640 free agents and training fans. I have a little bit of knowledge 1590 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:40,880 and experience with this. And so you get all the play, all 1591 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,240 the athletes at semi finals, they have to sign up to be part 1592 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,160 of the professional fitness association. 1593 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,960 Only then can they compete in semi finals. 1594 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,800 Now that is where you're probably going to have a harder 1595 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,480 time to do, but that's where these athletes associations come 1596 01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:55,720 in. Can you compare it to a sport 1597 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,960 like golf and tennis and you don't have athletes association? 1598 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,880 And the reason you don't have those because they're their 1599 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,400 individual athletes and essentially the top players in 1600 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:11,200 those sports will never let an athletes association because 1601 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,800 they're earning all the money they're getting there. 1602 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,880 They don't want to share sort of bottom down and have it slow 1603 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,640 bottom down. And thus you have situations 1604 01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,000 like you have with golf right now. 1605 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,120 Why is golf so screwed up right now? 1606 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,920 Well, partially because those athletes don't actually have an 1607 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,680 association. So they're all on different 1608 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,880 pages now. About 20 years ago when golf was 1609 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,560 on their move, they established sort of the PGA board and they 1610 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,360 got player representatives on those. 1611 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,560 But they're still having issues with that, with the competition, 1612 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,400 with live. And I think that's where the 1613 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,840 PFPFAAA is in right now is they're never going to be able 1614 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,480 to get by and from all the athletes and without buying in 1615 01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:54,600 from all the athletes will never be able to approach CrossFit as 1616 01:29:54,600 --> 01:30:00,440 an equal entity and thus Cross, it's going to laugh at them in 1617 01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:01,800 most. Situations, now this. 1618 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:06,320 Situation provided like I said the opportunity for them to have 1619 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,960 probably the most leverage that they're ever going to have and I 1620 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:13,080 think they just botched it yeah, I mean I think they. 1621 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,160 Do definitely have to have. A united voice, if it's going to 1622 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,120 do anything. I don't think they have that at 1623 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:24,120 this point. And they CrossFit would have to 1624 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,040 almost they'd have to allow that, right? 1625 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,760 Like CrossFit doesn't have to do this. 1626 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,800 They could say, well, if you don't want to compete playing 1627 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,160 our rules, you don't have to compete. 1628 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,680 And is fractured as everybody is in this. 1629 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,960 It's the next 40 men and 40 women up whether you compete or 1630 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,680 not, right? Like if Kristoff doesn't want to 1631 01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,240 compete again, well, the next team is up. 1632 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:48,040 If Laura doesn't compete again, the next woman is up. 1633 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:54,400 And you know, they don't, if CrossFit allows it, they're 1634 01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,080 going to basically give up all their power to the PFA. 1635 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,560 And that's, that's what CrossFit has to make a decision on. 1636 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,960 I I don't think there's a decision to be made. 1637 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,400 You don't. Give in to their demands. 1638 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,640 Even if you agree with them, you don't give in to them because 1639 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,480 essentially you're giving them power without them bringing 1640 01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:15,600 anything to the table. If you feel that way, 1641 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,640 terrorists. Unless CrossFit. 1642 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,520 Thinks the most important. Thing is to have guys like Brent 1643 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,680 and Pat and whatnot at the game so that the competitive field is 1644 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,960 the top people. But of course it's like, OK, 1645 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,680 we're willing to throw an event and have the CrossFit Games with 1646 01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,600 maybe five of the top 4010 of the Top 40 not there. 1647 01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,920 And it's still, it's not even profitable now. 1648 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,280 So it probably. Wouldn't be profitable. 1649 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:43,560 Then, but it doesn't bother them. 1650 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,160 Then they have no reason to get into the domain. 1651 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,840 You don't have to. You're right there. 1652 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,520 Is no leverage leverage? I'm I'm kind of on spin. 1653 01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,480 Side let them go if they. Want to go? 1654 01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,000 Yeah, I mean, I always. Let them go better. 1655 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,160 Statement. Part of it. 1656 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:06,480 Is is. Obviously, they feel like 1657 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,560 Lazar's death CrossFit had a hand in. 1658 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,440 I can totally see that. We'll wait for the report. 1659 01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:16,520 But aside from that, the opportunity presented itself for 1660 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,920 them to gain some leverage. And like I would have gotten if 1661 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,000 I was Brent in the PSFAI would have gotten home, I would have 1662 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,840 sat down with lawyers. I would ironed out how we want 1663 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,040 to approach this over the next one month, two months, three 1664 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:32,000 months, maybe even gone into the next season. 1665 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,360 Private meetings. You don't need to go public with 1666 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:38,400 something like this. This seems like a very high 1667 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,280 schoolish move. And it seems like he was trying 1668 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,680 to not only appeal the feelings of people who were at the games, 1669 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:50,680 probably in the back, but like immediate reactions that he was 1670 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,800 seeing on Instagram and whatnot and just handled it all 1671 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,000 completely wrong, which is somewhat surprising for somebody 1672 01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,280 who's more thought out like Brett. 1673 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:03,240 Well, and that's I do. I step back every. 1674 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:08,320 Time because it's easy to to villainize Brent and and these 1675 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,920 athletes, but it's like they they're legitimately just upset 1676 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,840 that a guy died. And I think they would say, 1677 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,200 well, we shouldn't need leverage. 1678 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,240 We're just asking for safety protocols. 1679 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,080 We're asking for this and that. But that whole equation changes 1680 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,320 the moment you ask for Dave to be fired. 1681 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:28,760 Yeah, that would. That mean then it becomes a 1682 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,240 serious ask, yeah. Serious. 1683 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,360 Ask well. Yeah, then you. 1684 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,840 You establish like I was I. Started reading it, I was like, 1685 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,920 OK, this makes sense. Everybody's hung up on the word 1686 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,960 liaise, but I get that. It's like they won't be involved 1687 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,440 in the safety change. And then you got to #3 And it's 1688 01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:47,160 just one sentence. We want Dave removed. 1689 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,240 It's like, OK, this is just an emotional response. 1690 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,160 He ought to not think this through. 1691 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,600 He didn't, definitely didn't discuss it through lawyers. 1692 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,800 Why you have lawyers for negotiation. 1693 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,000 None of them are lawyers. The lawyers remove the emotion. 1694 01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,080 They use the logic. They look at the money, They 1695 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,480 look at what makes the most sense, and they look at where 1696 01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:06,560 the leverage is and how to gain more leverage. 1697 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,160 You enter into negotiation. For stuff like. 1698 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,720 This you don't make demands, you can make them in later on. 1699 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,600 That's what you negotiate, but you have to come from a point of 1700 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,000 having something. So like if I was advising them, 1701 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,800 I'm not a lawyer, but if I was advising them, I will first 1702 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,440 thing I would have done would be, OK, let's increase our 1703 01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:32,760 enrollment in the GSFA. That was the opportunity instead 1704 01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,760 of. Showing CrossFit we have. 4150 1705 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,360 signatures. Let's show them we have 350 1706 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,160 signatures including every semi final athlete from the last two 1707 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,520 years. Now you got some power. 1708 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,960 Yep, Yep, completely agree with you. 1709 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,320 Thank you, Mark. I wasn't laughing at you, Mark 1710 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,720 Sima. Thanks for calling in, man. 1711 01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,160 Sima just subscribed and it's a little bit offensive. 1712 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:57,600 That's OK. Yeah, Sima. 1713 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,160 Better late. Than never we love. 1714 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,160 Sima. Thanks Sima. 1715 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:04,880 Catching up on some chats. Real quick. 1716 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,440 We'll get through those PJ birds 25 minutes behind the video. 1717 01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:10,880 I think it's been 25. Minutes since. 1718 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,600 PJ has put the comment in. Sarah Sigmund Spotter is getting 1719 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,800 her body right this year. Top ten finish. 1720 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,920 John Hope so. In her camp. 1721 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:24,640 Which camp is that? What's? 1722 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,320 That good floor. Dose DVD. 1723 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,080 D Reed. Feels like Brent is lining up 1724 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,840 his work after CrossFit as the PFAA head. 1725 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,360 Unfortunately for him, that will mean accountability. 1726 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,880 Where were the PFA concerns for events this year? 1727 01:35:41,480 --> 01:35:46,160 I I I started this one. I don't think he is lying. 1728 01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,960 I don't think he wants to do this. 1729 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,920 I don't. I don't think he he he's half 1730 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,160 hearted about the PFA even. Though he. 1731 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:56,960 You think so? It is his baby. 1732 01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:58,480 He's. Not going full he's. 1733 01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:01,120 Not jumping ship into it. Oh, I think he is man. 1734 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,720 I think he is. I just I think you're. 1735 01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,120 Wrong. I think. 1736 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:09,760 He's doing this apprehensively, I don't think. 1737 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:14,040 What makes you think that? That the fucking. 1738 01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,000 Construction of that. Demand letter yesterday number 1739 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,600 one. But also like, this is not going 1740 01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:24,440 to be fun. It's not going like there's. 1741 01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:27,920 Going to be a lot of freaking. I think he also would have 1742 01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:32,920 already done it if it were, if it were a path that he wanted to 1743 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:36,000 pursue. I think he's been trying. 1744 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,840 I don't. Know if they had. 1745 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:45,560 He has the support to do anything fair, right? 1746 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:46,600 Like. He create. 1747 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,880 This you ask for support. And then you go to have a speech 1748 01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,040 like we talked about yesterday, and they all stare at him and 1749 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:56,720 look bored. And you obviously have plenty of 1750 01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:00,360 athletes who are on the opposite side of what you've said. 1751 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,920 And so it diminishes what he's trying to do. 1752 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:09,160 I think he's all in. I think the question is he's all 1753 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:15,280 in while he's competing, right? When they retire, do you stay 1754 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,400 all in and continue? That fight? 1755 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:23,320 That's a that's we'll know exactly how strongly he feels 1756 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:28,680 about it and we don't know when that will be, Dustin said. 1757 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:30,480 Brenton has said that before. Said what? 1758 01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:35,160 That he doesn't care. Again, with the programming, I 1759 01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:36,680 think all the young. Accounts need to start a. 1760 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:44,360 Podcast governing the body. You got what, Fat John or Big 1761 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:45,800 John Young? Black John Young. 1762 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,680 White, John. Young, John. 1763 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,360 Young. Young, Jay. 1764 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:54,320 Duan Jung. I think there's another. 1765 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,800 One there's there's another one in there. 1766 01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:01,240 John Young stuttering. John Young yelling John Young's 1767 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,760 waffles. That's just that's just an. 1768 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,200 Account. Yeah. 1769 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:12,480 Well, we'll just call it the the board, the board, the JY. 1770 01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:13,720 Board. JY Board. 1771 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,920 MLK 5240. Does the PFA and CrossFit HQ no 1772 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,000 more than what has been released publicly? 1773 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,160 I think to some degree they have to know. 1774 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,160 More than us. To what extent I have no idea. 1775 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:33,560 That's why we don't know. Jay Sheets more like PFK gay I 1776 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:34,240 think. Jay is. 1777 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:38,560 Actually, Bryson. Would make sense that to his. 1778 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,920 His oiling up. Comments he he always makes. 1779 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,840 That would be a turn of events, Larry. 1780 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,320 Young if CrossFit doesn't recognize the PFAA. 1781 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,800 They don't exist. In reality, CrossFit doesn't 1782 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:53,960 recognize us. Does that mean we. 1783 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,040 Don't exist. That's. 100% true, yes. 1784 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,360 If I recognize something that's not real, does. 1785 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,720 That mean it exists if two people see you. 1786 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,120 Chemtrails. Yeah. 1787 01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:13,040 Exactly. I think that's it. 1788 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,240 Any news? On the the JY. 1789 01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,320 Barbell front there, John. Yeah. 1790 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:23,000 No, I want to give. Andrew White a shout out he is 1791 01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:28,280 during in Max out season. He's a old college friend and 1792 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,880 lives in Missouri. He just PR D his front squat by 1793 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:36,680 40 lbs it was 275. Now it's 3/15. 1794 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:41,360 He just PR is what else? His snatch? 1795 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,000 By 30. Pounds, I don't know, he's PR 1796 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,040 and everything by a lot. He never wore knee sleeves. 1797 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:52,320 I mean, knee sleeves are helping him out a little bit, but but he 1798 01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:53,360 just. Finished his. 1799 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,400 Program. So yeah, he's probably the JY 1800 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,800 Barbell Member of the Week. There you go. 1801 01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,840 I feel like we should do that. I'll give out a JY. 1802 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:05,160 Barbell. Member of the Week, Yeah, yes. 1803 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,320 Yeah, I have. Guys as well. 1804 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:11,160 There's way more girls than guys, but there are guys that do 1805 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,960 it, Yes, absolutely. They've seen the way Daniel 1806 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,400 Arntz and kind of. He comments sometimes and he's. 1807 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,960 He's I saw he, I saw he, he posted. 1808 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,720 Something or he shared it hit a big lift. 1809 01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,120 Natalie 499, thank you. Basically wonder if the PFAA 1810 01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:30,560 becomes an overseeing party for the games, will they also demand 1811 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,920 to be paid employees? I think that's where the liaise 1812 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,800 comes in. Yeah, the liaise. 1813 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,680 That's where I don't I. I see it not. 1814 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:45,160 Happening right, like I, I don't see CrossFit saying come on in, 1815 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:48,400 work with like you're part of us now. 1816 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:53,240 We cut costs and we, we, we, it cost us probably a life. 1817 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,120 But we'll pay you guys. I think that's, I think it's 1818 01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,920 what the PFAA. Wants, right is to be the 1819 01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:06,400 overseeing party, right? Like making all the decisions 1820 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,200 from that. Do you want to take another 1821 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,040 call? Yeah. 1822 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:18,120 All right, we'll do one more. All right, caller, welcome to 1823 01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,920 the Spin. Hey, Spin. 1824 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:27,440 Hey guys, it's. Vicki, I calling in because AI 1825 01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:33,440 completely agree with Tyler and all of you that the PFAA post 1826 01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:37,800 was definitely came off emotional response and part of 1827 01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,040 that is based off of their demands. 1828 01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:44,760 Because if you sit and think about the PFAA demanding to, I'm 1829 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:52,120 trying not to laugh, liaise with the, the team in charge of 1830 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:57,040 safety, then I don't think that they're realizing the, the 1831 01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,080 legality that they're opening up themselves to, right? 1832 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,040 They automatically pull in liability to themselves. 1833 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,880 So anyway, it was just a point that came up in my head earlier 1834 01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:12,720 and I said oh, so thanks. No, thank you. 1835 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:14,440 Thank you. Yeah. 1836 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:17,480 I. I had an. 1837 01:42:17,480 --> 01:42:20,960 Idea what she was talking. You weren't listening to her. 1838 01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:23,880 No, I was. Travis. 1839 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:27,400 Vindicate. I need a shirt in the style of a 1840 01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:32,040 games volunteer. You know how they have like the 1841 01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:36,840 scoring ones, but I needed to say PFAA liaise on the back. 1842 01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:40,760 I want that. Shirt, you want that? 1843 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,800 I think you can get it. I am the liaise. 1844 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:47,760 There's some interesting information. 1845 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:54,160 If you go out to the PFAA, I saw this earlier today. 1846 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,120 This is a. Page on height considerations 1847 01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:02,160 for gymnastic rings and pull up bar heights and it goes through. 1848 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,360 Athlete height data. It's talking about how high the 1849 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:11,080 pull up bars are, how high the gymnastic rings are, and it gets 1850 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,840 down to this bottom. Point down here. 1851 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,400 And it says kind. Of here's you. 1852 01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,240 Know all these heights are based off of having the availability 1853 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,600 of two six inch foam risers a stand on. 1854 01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:26,200 Without these risers the measurements don't work. 1855 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,400 Ideally risers have a much larger surface area than 28 1856 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,320 inches by 28 inches once commonly provided. 1857 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,880 Those are the rogue ones you always see underneath the pull 1858 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:41,080 up rig during the games. They should be closer to 7 foot 1859 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,800 by. 7 foot. So they can cover the entire 1860 01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,640 floor beneath the rig. This would reduce any injury 1861 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,240 risk of athletes falling when compared to smaller objects. 1862 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,920 I don't know of seven foot by 7 foot 49 square. 1863 01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:03,680 Feet of 6 inch risers and how you would provide that at any 1864 01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,920 competition? John, what did he say? 1865 01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:13,160 He's, I don't know what he's. Not paying attention. 1866 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,520 To me, no, it's not that he's not paying attention. 1867 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,120 It's that it was. So hard to like. 1868 01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:22,600 What are we talking about? It's I mean 7 by 749 square 1869 01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,080 feet. Per person, yeah, like basically 1870 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:29,360 one sounds like a lot. Yeah, it's the entire like. 1871 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,720 The whole pull up bar. Area, I'm listening, Tyler. 1872 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,120 It's just, it's not that so. Stupid, I'm trying to make the 1873 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,680 point. You know when Hiller's like, he 1874 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:38,960 says I'm. Not reading that. 1875 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,120 Yeah, that's what I was thinking during this, like. 1876 01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:43,040 What? What are we? 1877 01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:48,040 Reading like start over my whole point and I think this is maybe. 1878 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,240 Why it didn't get the attention earlier? 1879 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,040 It's like. What? 1880 01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,600 Why are you going? Why are you going after this? 1881 01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,640 Right, like. Scoring tables. 1882 01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,040 Pull up. Height pull up bar. 1883 01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:08,840 Height like OK but. Like to reduce any. 1884 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:13,120 Injury risk saying you need a 7 foot by 7 foot pad so that 1885 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:16,880 somebody doesn't, you know, twist an ankle 'cause they come 1886 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:21,880 down wrong. That is where I struggle. 1887 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,080 With it. Right. 1888 01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:25,240 Like I think that's where a lot of. 1889 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:29,520 People struggle with it and. Now, because he will struggle 1890 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,440 with it and this. Has happened I I. 1891 01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:37,800 I wonder if there's some concerns about how they like do 1892 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,360 I join this? Is this what I want to support? 1893 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,880 Like do you think it? Would have been better had the 1894 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:49,600 PFA not existed. Until this moment with that, so 1895 01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,160 they didn't have the burden of all this. 1896 01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,080 They they weren't burdened by what has been. 1897 01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:58,560 They weren't. Burdened by all this that they 1898 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,280 had put out and they're. Like, you know what, we're going 1899 01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,960 to unionize over this. I bet they'd actually be better 1900 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:08,440 off in their cause. It's so dumb. 1901 01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,680 Man, just just. Do whatever you're going to do. 1902 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,720 Just put me into my misery. I don't. 1903 01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,960 I don't think I think John. I think John's done. 1904 01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,880 John's tired. We're going to wrap this up. 1905 01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,120 It's just. Not, it's just not. 1906 01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:29,240 Listen, this is just not my. Role like to talk about like I 1907 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,400 just have I just don't have a lot to add to the conversation. 1908 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:37,360 It's just so all of it's dumb. All right, well, we'll ask Ivana 1909 01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,120 and Caleb. How we, how we did and then 1910 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,040 we'll wrap it up. I give it like an 8. 1911 01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:45,720 It wasn't too long. And they got a got a lot of good 1912 01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,720 conversation in there. They kind of went after each 1913 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,840 other, which is kind of cool. I think the show's A10. 1914 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:51,400 I agree.