1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,400 You're listening to the Mind Triggers podcast with 9 Nils, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:10,440 Juicy, Henny, Luke and Jay always in the background. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,240 And remember, the whole team gotta win. 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,320 This Jay always in the background. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,920 I'm Juicy Henny, Luke. Now today we have our new 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:38,480 podcast guest, She's a Siren from What Kinky Game, Kinky Game 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,120 Night, and other other Adventures. 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Now let's start. What intro. 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:50,840 She's a writer, a businesswoman. Masturbation enthusiast a lover 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,680 of liberation. And also exploring all kinks and 11 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,680 fetish queen. There we go. 12 00:01:02,110 --> 00:01:03,150 Welcome. How you doing? 13 00:01:04,190 --> 00:01:06,270 I'm doing good. How are you guys? 14 00:01:06,470 --> 00:01:07,590 Thank you. Thanks for coming on. 15 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:10,590 Appreciate you of. Course, of course. 16 00:01:11,310 --> 00:01:13,230 Now can you tell us about the kinky game night? 17 00:01:15,790 --> 00:01:17,790 Can I tell you about kinky game night? 18 00:01:17,790 --> 00:01:20,230 OK, but like, what part? That's kind of like a broad 19 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:23,110 question. What is it? 20 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:24,630 Yeah. Start off with that. 21 00:01:25,430 --> 00:01:32,470 So Kinky Game Night is a body kink and sex positive space that 22 00:01:32,470 --> 00:01:37,750 advocates for elite expression and expression of self. 23 00:01:37,790 --> 00:01:40,710 It's it, you know. Our tagline is what would you do 24 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:43,350 with the freest version of yourself if you could not be 25 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:46,350 judged, if you didn't have to come in and think about your 26 00:01:46,350 --> 00:01:53,110 occupation, your income, your how every action or move you did 27 00:01:53,150 --> 00:01:58,910 would. Judge you or you know have 28 00:01:59,150 --> 00:02:01,430 consequences. What would you be doing as the 29 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:05,630 freeze version of yourself and kg N is that type of playground? 30 00:02:06,750 --> 00:02:11,270 Nice nice little playground. Interesting. 31 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:16,910 I like being free. Don't we all? 32 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:23,750 So how long has it been around? So KG N was formed in 2019. 33 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:32,620 The year before, yeah. But The thing is, is that so 34 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:40,020 like we did it for like 5 months in 2019 and then I did take 35 00:02:40,020 --> 00:02:45,020 about a year off to just like Focus. 36 00:02:45,020 --> 00:02:47,540 I was still out of traveling. I lived internationally at the 37 00:02:47,540 --> 00:02:49,620 time. So it was a little bit difficult 38 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:52,140 to manage that and be living abroad. 39 00:02:52,610 --> 00:02:58,530 But then when I came back to the States and in the latter half of 40 00:02:58,530 --> 00:03:01,770 2020 and it's kind of started back up, that's from COVID and 41 00:03:01,770 --> 00:03:05,490 everything like that happened. So it's been like consistently 42 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:08,370 operating for about a year. Nice. 43 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:10,770 Who? How do you come with like the 44 00:03:10,770 --> 00:03:17,850 concept? So I it it, it was off like a 45 00:03:17,890 --> 00:03:22,820 sub business of. The first business that I had 46 00:03:22,820 --> 00:03:25,860 that was called We Keep It Candid and We Keep It Candid was 47 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:30,500 like a game based interactive forum where we like, you know, 48 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:33,020 it was a community forum. So we talked about all things 49 00:03:33,020 --> 00:03:37,180 black people, black people in love, black people in dating, 50 00:03:37,540 --> 00:03:39,900 black people in King, black people in sex, black people in 51 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:42,620 double standards. Just like really exploring our 52 00:03:42,620 --> 00:03:47,460 interpersonal relationships with each other and within that 53 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:50,100 because we were already an interactive game based. 54 00:03:50,950 --> 00:03:52,550 Forum. We were like, oh, well, let's 55 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:56,590 try like different events. And in Los Angeles, like, game 56 00:03:56,590 --> 00:04:00,190 nights were really popular. And Taco Tuesday, excuse me, 57 00:04:00,190 --> 00:04:02,230 Taco Tuesdays were really popular. 58 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:05,630 So we were like, OK, how about we do like a Taco Tuesday game 59 00:04:05,630 --> 00:04:06,750 night? We're like, what are we going to 60 00:04:06,750 --> 00:04:10,070 call it, kinky game night? So that's kind of how it 61 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:11,790 happened. We didn't think that Kinky game 62 00:04:11,790 --> 00:04:15,950 night would become what it was. It was just supposed to be a 63 00:04:15,950 --> 00:04:18,430 type of event within. We keep it candid, but then it 64 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:23,970 became like its own entity. So I I heard you say we so like 65 00:04:23,970 --> 00:04:26,170 who so is you have partners in this or? 66 00:04:27,010 --> 00:04:31,090 I don't have partners, but I do have, like, Dream Team members, 67 00:04:31,090 --> 00:04:32,370 yes. OK. 68 00:04:32,570 --> 00:04:33,970 And you guys you said based out of LA. 69 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:40,170 Yes, some are based in Dallas though we just we we have a 70 00:04:40,170 --> 00:04:44,650 second like like it's like our second primary base like our 71 00:04:44,650 --> 00:04:48,250 secondary base when's. The one coming in Jersey. 72 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:54,390 I definitely want to hit the East Coast, but New York would 73 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:57,830 be like the the the priority for me for sure. 74 00:04:58,670 --> 00:05:01,630 So what's the what's the process like like you gotta like sign up 75 00:05:01,630 --> 00:05:04,150 subscription base, pay monthly to join. 76 00:05:05,030 --> 00:05:09,670 No. So you have to pass our vetting 77 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:12,590 process. We have what is called the EVE 78 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:13,910 vetting process. It's. 79 00:05:14,750 --> 00:05:19,780 Like a background check. No, it's like a intuitive like 80 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:24,660 video session that we do to figure out would you be the 81 00:05:24,660 --> 00:05:28,940 ideal type of person for our community And once you pass the 82 00:05:29,060 --> 00:05:32,700 EVE vetting process, then you'll you're able to purchase tickets, 83 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:35,100 but it's not open for the public. 84 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:37,500 Like just because you have the money to attend doesn't mean you 85 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:40,060 can't attend. You have to be vetted and pass 86 00:05:40,060 --> 00:05:42,300 vetting and not everybody. Actually, a lot of people don't 87 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:43,600 pass. Wow, nice. 88 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,840 So face cards ain't working. Y'all. 89 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,360 Are there any rules to the King Game Night? 90 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,320 There's lots of rules, but the primary one is consent. 91 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,280 You know, like, don't touch people. 92 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,280 Also, just recognizing that it's not a sex party. 93 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:03,680 You know, like that's also why we have such elite vetting 94 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,320 systems is because you know, spaces that are like. 95 00:06:07,890 --> 00:06:10,290 Three like ours, you know, that's like very body positive. 96 00:06:10,290 --> 00:06:13,010 You can come naked. All these things within that you 97 00:06:13,010 --> 00:06:15,970 have to like make sure you're only dealing with people that 98 00:06:16,010 --> 00:06:23,090 are like high caliber type of people on energetic level 99 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:26,050 because some people will come thinking like oh man, okay, I 100 00:06:26,050 --> 00:06:28,890 can pay this high price ticket and I'm about to get XYZ and 101 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:32,530 it's like, no, that's not what it's about, you know, like now 102 00:06:32,530 --> 00:06:35,490 can that type of expression happen? 103 00:06:35,530 --> 00:06:37,500 Yes. But it's actually a small 104 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:38,940 percentage of people that do that. 105 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:42,220 It's it's like an energy realm that people pay to get into. 106 00:06:42,220 --> 00:06:48,100 Like it's a it's a unique vibe that is hard to kind of 107 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:52,900 experience in the real world because the real world is so 108 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:55,820 fake. Everybody has masks on to 109 00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:59,940 preserve their livelihood, you know, to work to, you know. 110 00:07:00,630 --> 00:07:03,590 All the labels that they have, whether they're a mom, their 111 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:05,670 sister, their friend, their community member, their 112 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:08,910 politician, that requires them to put on certain masks. 113 00:07:08,910 --> 00:07:12,350 So people pay what they pay, and they seek out spaces like kinky 114 00:07:12,350 --> 00:07:14,950 game night to be free. You know, who would what would 115 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:17,910 you be as the freest version of yourself that might look like 116 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:21,790 sensual intimacy with another person, but often times it's 117 00:07:21,790 --> 00:07:23,070 not. It's just the energy that 118 00:07:23,070 --> 00:07:26,510 they're paying for, like the the realm of that type of space. 119 00:07:26,510 --> 00:07:28,950 That's. A good concept. 120 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:31,670 Right. It's a very. 121 00:07:31,670 --> 00:07:34,430 Good concept. So how do you like, sign up or 122 00:07:34,750 --> 00:07:38,110 join? So if there's like an experience 123 00:07:38,110 --> 00:07:40,390 or something like that, I mean people can get vetted before an 124 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:44,590 experience, but usually an influx of like applications will 125 00:07:44,590 --> 00:07:47,070 come in when an experience is about to come up. 126 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:49,670 And they would they would go through like our vetting process 127 00:07:49,750 --> 00:07:53,390 and then after they go through our vetting process we would ask 128 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:56,430 them what tier do they want to buy into for that event. 129 00:07:56,430 --> 00:07:57,790 And each event is different like. 130 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Different events offer different you know, it could be a solo 131 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,520 ticket, a duo ticket, maybe they want a VIP like like section 132 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,040 experience, like that's up to them. 133 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,120 But before they're able to attend, they do have to pass 134 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,760 getting. They seem like one of things. 135 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,120 About reaching out to the page. They seem like one of the things 136 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,000 you got to know is going on to know about it like if you're not 137 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 in that community you not, you would never know anything about 138 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,360 it it seem like. So I'll say that, like, kinky 139 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,990 game night is a little bit. Yes, in the sense of like, I 140 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:33,070 think that kink culture in in general like to find a kink 141 00:08:33,070 --> 00:08:36,270 space that or like a, you know, like that type of space that's 142 00:08:36,270 --> 00:08:37,909 for you. You do have to. 143 00:08:38,350 --> 00:08:39,710 Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, if 144 00:08:39,710 --> 00:08:45,070 you know, but also, you know, because KG N is not a LS, which 145 00:08:45,070 --> 00:08:49,430 is a lifestyle party and it's not a sex party and it's a, you 146 00:08:49,430 --> 00:08:52,030 know, like the name of it itself, kinky game night. 147 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:55,060 Like it's a game night. There's performances, there's 148 00:08:55,060 --> 00:08:57,820 activities, there's, you know, all of these things. 149 00:08:59,860 --> 00:09:04,940 It spreads a little bit easier on social media than some other 150 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:09,900 like underground type of like LS or sex party scenes. 151 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:16,100 So we are a little bit more mainstream than some other 152 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:20,500 brands that might kind of be in this like see my same industry. 153 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:22,580 Now for the people, I don't know what is LS. 154 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,050 Lifestyle. Okay, yeah. 155 00:09:26,050 --> 00:09:27,890 See, I had no idea. I was lost for a second. 156 00:09:31,810 --> 00:09:34,410 Yeah. So what's the Siren Woman 157 00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:40,050 family? Yeah, so siren sorority is it's 158 00:09:40,090 --> 00:09:46,330 a it's a sorority that it's a femin powered sorority that you 159 00:09:46,330 --> 00:09:50,770 know, acts as that constant energetic. 160 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:56,310 Space for centrally empowered women, centrally empowered films 161 00:09:57,310 --> 00:10:00,270 within the sorority, you know there's a lot of perks, you know 162 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:05,990 so like we do vacations, we have like our siren outings for 163 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:09,430 sirens that are entrepreneurs, you know, like they get like a 164 00:10:09,470 --> 00:10:11,630 six figure siren mentorship under me. 165 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:17,190 I'm a like I I'm I have like extensive experience and 166 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:20,060 mentorship from. You know, like a lot of six and 167 00:10:20,060 --> 00:10:23,460 seven figure entrepreneurs, I myself have always been able to 168 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:25,940 accumulate, you know, 6 figure businesses. 169 00:10:26,220 --> 00:10:30,580 Talking about hold on, hold on, we got a celebration, yeah. 170 00:10:31,980 --> 00:10:35,140 I'm not a 7 figure entrepreneur, yeah, but I've definitely have 171 00:10:35,140 --> 00:10:38,460 reached like that six figure. And so it's about that though, 172 00:10:38,460 --> 00:10:41,020 you know, for people who are like an entrepreneur, right? 173 00:10:41,020 --> 00:10:45,020 It's like how do you? Build a business that has an 174 00:10:45,060 --> 00:10:47,380 internal ecosystem. Because when you can build an 175 00:10:47,380 --> 00:10:51,900 internal ecosystem within your business, then you are destined 176 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:54,660 to be 6 and seven figures because you're gonna have people 177 00:10:54,660 --> 00:10:59,140 naturally aligning to your vision, but it's their vision 178 00:10:59,140 --> 00:11:00,860 too, so they're gonna work just as hard as you. 179 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:04,740 And you don't have to have so much overhead because everybody 180 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:07,580 has the same vision, you know? So it's about. 181 00:11:08,030 --> 00:11:11,030 Taking your business model and figuring out what is that 182 00:11:11,030 --> 00:11:14,190 internal ecosystem like. So like for instance cyber 183 00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:17,350 sorority for instance is the ecosystem to kinky game night. 184 00:11:17,390 --> 00:11:21,190 Because cyber sorority Soros pay, they pledge an annual 185 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:24,830 membership fee and when they come in they get access to a lot 186 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:28,110 of resources, they get access to a lot of tools, they get access 187 00:11:28,110 --> 00:11:30,990 to learning. How do you make money? 188 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:33,870 Premium price as a centrally empowered film. 189 00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:38,420 And also they gain the database and the resources of KGN. 190 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:41,300 So a lot of times pay into the arority, but they'll end up 191 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:46,900 making that money back by working through KGN and gaining 192 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:52,580 that experience, gaining a role like they could be employed by 193 00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:54,380 KGN. So it becomes an internal 194 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:55,020 system. It's like. 195 00:11:55,610 --> 00:11:57,930 You're literally paying into your own future. 196 00:11:57,930 --> 00:12:00,490 You know, you're paying to make money with the company, whatever 197 00:12:00,490 --> 00:12:02,330 the case would be. So it's figuring out what does 198 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:04,970 those internal ecosystems look like with your own business, 199 00:12:05,010 --> 00:12:07,970 because you can always, there's always an internal ecosystem, 200 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:10,490 you know, It's just about figuring out where is that, like 201 00:12:10,690 --> 00:12:13,250 how do you eat? But also make sure your team 202 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:17,730 eats so that the business can build, expand, because a lot of 203 00:12:17,730 --> 00:12:21,380 businesses are. From an individual and nobody's 204 00:12:21,380 --> 00:12:23,700 going to, you know, that's where you got to be paying all this. 205 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:27,220 It becomes so expensive because your business only sets you up 206 00:12:27,220 --> 00:12:29,300 for success. It doesn't set anybody else up 207 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:30,700 for success. So ain't nobody about to be 208 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:33,020 thinking about what your vision is. 209 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:36,020 But when your vision can naturally align to their vision, 210 00:12:36,260 --> 00:12:38,660 it becomes their vision. And it's about figuring out, 211 00:12:38,980 --> 00:12:40,580 well, what is that internal ecosystem. 212 00:12:40,580 --> 00:12:43,140 So they learn those tools, you know, like they're set up for 213 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:47,100 success. You like vacations, right? 214 00:12:48,610 --> 00:12:50,850 I do. You like outings, right? 215 00:12:50,850 --> 00:12:53,610 I. Do Yeah, outing. 216 00:12:53,890 --> 00:12:57,650 So how would someone join the signing severity? 217 00:12:58,370 --> 00:13:01,490 So they would also go through the application process. 218 00:13:01,490 --> 00:13:03,650 Not everybody that applies gets in. 219 00:13:04,730 --> 00:13:08,530 Usually we only accept maybe five or six of like the 80 220 00:13:08,690 --> 00:13:12,610 people that try to apply it's. A secret society all the access 221 00:13:12,610 --> 00:13:16,160 trust. Well, you gotta make sure that 222 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,360 you guys are energetically aligned because you let the 223 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,800 wrong energy in collapse. So. 224 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:25,480 You're right. Geez. 225 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Now, anything else? That anybody that don't know, 226 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,320 how did you wanna shit about the business before we get into some 227 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,280 of our spicy questions for you? No, but you know, like come out, 228 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,920 experience it. Don't ever say that something is 229 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,120 not for you if you've never tried it. 230 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,960 Because you don't know. You know, like what you think it 231 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,880 might be. It's not, you know, it's look at 232 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,560 it as being there's a there's a there's a plot, right? 233 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:59,040 There's the plot and there's all these little plot lines and, you 234 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,400 know, all of them lead to a different climax. 235 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,800 All of them lead to a different narrative and a different story. 236 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,240 So you get to come in with all of these plot lines and you get 237 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,760 to decide, well, what is my story going to be tonight? 238 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,240 It's completely up to you. And that's what Kiki Game Night 239 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,840 is. So it's a great concept. 240 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,360 Have a good time and don't limit yourself. 241 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,120 What would you do with the freest version of yourself? 242 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,520 That's it. Now, do you have any fetishes? 243 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Do I have any fetishes? I don't have any fetishes. 244 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,520 I do have kinks, You know, I have things that I enjoy in the 245 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,880 kink world. I don't have fetishes. 246 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,160 I don't think No. Now what do you enjoy? 247 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:45,510 I love wax play. I love temperature play. 248 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:50,550 I love, I love spankings. Like, I'm a very submissive 249 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:53,430 archetype, but I am like a bratty archetype. 250 00:14:54,710 --> 00:14:56,150 I'm not like a traditional brat, though. 251 00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:59,190 I'm not like a I'm going to talk back and grow me. 252 00:15:01,990 --> 00:15:03,870 I'm definitely more of like a Oh my God. 253 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:11,200 I'm so I'm just gonna. Sit here and give me my weight. 254 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Type of brat, you know. So definitely more of like a 255 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,200 damsel in distress type of yes. But I'm definitely brat. 256 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Like I will shut down and just be sad all day, puppy eyes until 257 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 I get my way. What's your sign? 258 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Zebra. OK. 259 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,240 But I am an Aries moon and a Capricorn riser, so. 260 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Looking like having dances, right? 261 00:15:38,830 --> 00:15:41,310 Now look. I like helping people. 262 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:47,790 OK, there we go. Now Now, can you look at 263 00:15:47,790 --> 00:15:50,590 somebody and tell what you think they're into like when they like 264 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:53,310 at these game nights? No, I already see what. 265 00:15:53,310 --> 00:15:56,550 This is going. I already see it exactly. 266 00:15:57,070 --> 00:15:59,910 Let me tell you something you really cannot like there was 267 00:15:59,910 --> 00:16:04,380 this guy that I. He's a Kingster Vine, So we have 268 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:06,820 like, I'm very close to my Kingston. 269 00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:09,140 I try to like really build relationships with all of them. 270 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:13,060 So we're like having this conversation and this guy is 271 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:16,060 like, he looks like an entire model. 272 00:16:16,060 --> 00:16:20,010 Okay. And you know, he's like, yeah, 273 00:16:20,010 --> 00:16:23,210 sometimes it's just hard to like, you know, he's like some 274 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:26,490 places say they're spaces of freedom, but they don't really 275 00:16:26,490 --> 00:16:28,890 be spaces of freedom. And I'm like, anytime someone 276 00:16:28,890 --> 00:16:32,170 start talking like that, it probably means that they're into 277 00:16:32,170 --> 00:16:34,890 something that is like, very unconvincing. 278 00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:36,690 Some wild shit. Right. 279 00:16:36,770 --> 00:16:41,330 So I'm like this guy. So he's talking and stuff like 280 00:16:41,330 --> 00:16:42,370 that. I'm like, well, why do you feel 281 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:46,000 like you can't be free? In freedom spaces, you know and 282 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,480 like, he's like 100% into scatting, you know, like he 283 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,720 likes. Hey, what is scatting? 284 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:57,600 He likes scouting is when you're into like ship play, ship play 285 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,880 and you know, like so he kind of had like a fetish with Wow with 286 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,240 like fluids, you know, so like ship play, throw up, all of that 287 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,359 type of stuff. Wait, wait, did you wait, did 288 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,960 you know about this? Help me out? 289 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,040 No. Did you ever heard about like 290 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,880 you ever heard about that? No. 291 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,720 When I heard of scattering, I thought it like we would be 292 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,640 about to do. This I never heard of scatting 293 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,040 before. This is the first time. 294 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,040 Yeah, it's like scatting golden showers, that type of stuff. 295 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,040 So, you know, and so we were having to talk about that of 296 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,760 like, well, you know, like people. 297 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,520 It's like just because, like freedom for you doesn't mean 298 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,440 like you get freedom access to anyone you know, like there's. 299 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Reasons why a person might not be into that, you know, like it 300 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,000 could be concern of like bacteria or like any of these 301 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,640 things. Like me, I am a complete 302 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,840 hypochondriac, you know, Like, I always think, don't, don't let 303 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 me have a pimple on my hand. I'm running to the doctor like, 304 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,400 Oh my God, why do I have acne on my hand, You know, so I would be 305 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,600 like, you know, shit play. I would be like, Oh my gosh, is 306 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,000 my stomach on it. Was he the only one in the group 307 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,000 that was into that? No, there's there's scatting 308 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,600 communities, like there's people that are like way into it, you 309 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,560 know? I don't know. 310 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,920 How would you bring that up to somebody? 311 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,280 The only thing I can think of is, is when that biggie 312 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,520 interlude showing the cock over and shit on her stomach when the 313 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,560 biggie you. Don't listen to Biggie shit. 314 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,800 That's that's scatting. That's that's shit play. 315 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,200 So, you know, I don't know. I feel like for for like kinking 316 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,200 fetishes in general. Like one, they'll probably try 317 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,440 to find groups that cater specifically to that. 318 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Like they'll try to find, like, now that's where it becomes, if 319 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,800 you know, you know, like I wouldn't know about any Scouting 320 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,880 communities because I'm not into SCAT. 321 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,320 But like, they exist. They're very underground though. 322 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,400 They're very discreet. They're very, you know. 323 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,440 That is something new. Secret of. 324 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,980 Never knew about that one. Yeah. 325 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:03,580 Would you be a phone sex operator? 326 00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:07,740 I feel like you have a pretty sexy, sensual type of voice. 327 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:15,340 Oh, thank you. I'm not opposed to it now I 328 00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:18,940 just, you know I'm such a like, oh Lord. 329 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:25,980 I am such a like I'm. I was talking to one of my good 330 00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:27,940 friends. She's also a siren Trinity about 331 00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:30,820 this of like. I am not charming. 332 00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:35,500 I'm charming when I want to be charming, but I'm not naturally 333 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,180 charming. You're like some people. 334 00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:40,020 You won't know if they like you or not because they're such a 335 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:42,780 charmer. I you will know if I like you or 336 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:46,460 not because I'm not a fake. You know I'm not good at faking. 337 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:49,300 Like I either like you or I don't like you. 338 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:54,740 So with the phone says it would be like damn, like this is ooh 339 00:19:54,740 --> 00:19:55,660 I'm. I'm yawning. 340 00:19:55,660 --> 00:19:57,500 I'm about to go to sleep. You get what I'm saying? 341 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:00,050 So. I would have to, really. 342 00:20:00,170 --> 00:20:01,450 I I mean, I did. I did. 343 00:20:01,850 --> 00:20:05,250 I got my degree in theater arts. So it's like, I would, of course 344 00:20:05,250 --> 00:20:08,090 I could 4th Wall and like be an actor and all those things for 345 00:20:08,090 --> 00:20:10,130 it. But there's just so much energy 346 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:11,850 work. It's like, oh, George, oh. 347 00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:16,410 OK, so that's an example. Of phone sex. 348 00:20:17,530 --> 00:20:21,050 OK, which one of y'all I'm talking to talk to me? 349 00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:25,810 I can talk to you. OK. 350 00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:32,090 Well, how was your day? I had a long, rough day. 351 00:20:33,330 --> 00:20:37,330 A long rough day. Can I do something to make it 352 00:20:37,330 --> 00:20:39,090 better for you? Absolutely. 353 00:20:40,450 --> 00:20:41,370 What can I do? I'm. 354 00:20:44,290 --> 00:20:44,850 Nervous. Sure. 355 00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:46,530 No. She Nervous? 356 00:20:46,530 --> 00:20:46,890 Sure. No. 357 00:20:50,130 --> 00:20:51,530 Oh, they're blushing. And cut. 358 00:20:51,810 --> 00:20:53,250 Come on now. You know. 359 00:20:53,290 --> 00:20:54,890 You know this calls like $0.99 a minute, right? 360 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:56,900 Like with 2000 minute. You ready? 361 00:20:57,420 --> 00:20:59,740 Come on, you gotta come there. Know what you wearing? 362 00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:02,140 Yeah, I don't know. Do my math. 363 00:21:02,140 --> 00:21:03,700 I don't know. She walking in the breaking 364 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:07,660 like, let me get a a motherfucking. 365 00:21:09,460 --> 00:21:11,220 You know she done. You done got you got her 366 00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:11,860 nervous. Thank you. 367 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:16,020 You done? Hey, you know what I'm here for? 368 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:19,660 Get out of here. Tomato, tomato. 369 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,100 Thank you. That was that was that was nice. 370 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:31,060 That was you do have yeah that voice is is very nice. 371 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:35,980 Now, since we all talk about phone sex operators, we got a 372 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:39,340 pick one segment. Which one would you let your 373 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:42,100 partner do? Be a phone sex operator but has 374 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:45,820 to have sex with 1 customer a week or be it a male gigolo. 375 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,850 So. I would let them be a phone sex 376 00:21:51,930 --> 00:21:54,930 operator because I can be a client and they can have sex. 377 00:21:55,690 --> 00:22:01,890 With me? Good answer, Vanessa. 378 00:22:02,090 --> 00:22:05,850 That's an excellent answer. That is an excellent answer. 379 00:22:05,970 --> 00:22:08,850 Shout to the sirens cuz y'all y'all got some shit with y'all 380 00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:16,420 juice. I mean, you can't really tap. 381 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:18,980 That yeah, you can she she she know from that. 382 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:20,900 Yeah, that that was a really good one. 383 00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:23,860 But if you had to which one? Which one would you go? 384 00:22:25,580 --> 00:22:30,020 I will also go with phone sex operator because that's like 385 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:34,740 once a week versus everybody. The the gigolo had to have sex 386 00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:38,020 with everybody. Okay look, that one I'm going. 387 00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:40,660 To go with option C, I'm going to have only fans but she can 388 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:46,170 only show feet pics. Listen, there is money and that. 389 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:48,930 That's what we heard. We've been trying to, we've been 390 00:22:48,930 --> 00:22:50,890 trying to get Juice to go on there, but she refused to. 391 00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:54,650 Listen, you don't even got to show your face. 392 00:22:55,170 --> 00:22:56,770 You hear that? So wait. 393 00:22:57,370 --> 00:22:58,810 Sidebar. So if you was going to convince 394 00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:00,970 Juice because you you're a very convincing person just by 395 00:23:00,970 --> 00:23:04,930 talking to you this time, If you can convince Juice to be to have 396 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:07,730 only fans, to only to only show her feet, what's your pitching 397 00:23:07,730 --> 00:23:10,650 line? So I mean, here's the thing 398 00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:14,290 about it, right? You have pretty feet. 399 00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:18,410 You have pretty feet. You're already on Instagram, 400 00:23:18,530 --> 00:23:21,010 which means you're already on your phone, which means it 401 00:23:21,010 --> 00:23:25,810 doesn't really take anything to take a photo of your feet and 402 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:29,930 upload it on only fans. You're not showing your face. 403 00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:32,450 They don't know your name. You're making money for 404 00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:34,490 something that you were born with your feet. 405 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:36,570 I mean, it's a no brainer to me, but. 406 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Hey, some people don't like easy money. 407 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,760 I get it. Like, it could be, you know, 408 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,200 maybe you don't like to take photos. 409 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Maybe you don't go get your feet done. 410 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,640 I get it like it could be a whole situation with that. 411 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,080 But like if I had your feet, I would do it. 412 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,600 I'm just, but you know, but but yeah, I mean it's it's up to you 413 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,920 at the end of the day. You know what? 414 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,760 I'm dead. You can't even see my feet. 415 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,920 That's wow. So that's yeah. 416 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,000 If you like being broke, it's OK. 417 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,800 I. Mean yo. 418 00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:09,460 Do you have a degree in marketing too and like that was? 419 00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:11,780 No. I almost got to came up for 420 00:24:11,780 --> 00:24:13,700 myself. Easy money. 421 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:17,740 That's that. So where are you from? 422 00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:20,500 Are you from Cali or I am? I'm from Los Angeles. 423 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:22,540 OK. Yeah, I'll be talking. 424 00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:28,540 I got to talk with y'all that. I think you convinced not to do 425 00:24:28,540 --> 00:24:31,340 it to you. I think I would definitely do 426 00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:33,660 it. No, wait, did you pay? 427 00:24:35,030 --> 00:24:42,190 Oh no, I pick, guy called me up. I will go with. 428 00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:46,790 I think the easiest one would be girl 6 because who wants who 429 00:24:46,790 --> 00:24:50,350 wants that girl to get hit? Everyone every, every week by 430 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:53,390 some different guys now. But that's what you mean, You 431 00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:56,750 still having sex for one customer a week? 432 00:24:57,990 --> 00:25:01,150 You wrote the question. I did right. 433 00:25:01,310 --> 00:25:03,750 I would still go with. Girl I would still go with. 434 00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:06,260 Phones like operate. I just feels more safer. 435 00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,340 It just sounds better. You actually. 436 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:11,780 What's your girl do talk on the phone Customer service? 437 00:25:11,780 --> 00:25:13,660 Exactly. We're going to call send them. 438 00:25:14,020 --> 00:25:16,620 That's it. You can easily hide that. 439 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:21,140 Now do you have any advice for first time people that come to 440 00:25:21,140 --> 00:25:24,260 the To the King games, to the kicky game night? 441 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:27,100 Like if you give them three advice, what would you tell 442 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:30,740 them? One be open minded. 443 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:42,810 Be open to the experience. #2 Move in comfort. 444 00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:45,130 You know, like not everything is for you. 445 00:25:45,130 --> 00:25:47,890 And don't think that everything has to be for you. 446 00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:53,130 So do what you're called to, you know, do what interests you, do 447 00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:54,610 what. And that might just be looking. 448 00:25:54,610 --> 00:25:56,410 You might just be a voyeur. You might just want to kind of 449 00:25:56,410 --> 00:25:59,170 take in the scene, do that, do what feels good. 450 00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:08,300 And the last one would be understand that it's a privilege 451 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:13,180 to be in the space. So check your mindset at the 452 00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:15,100 door. You know, don't come in thinking 453 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,940 like, well, I paid this and I I need to see what I get from this 454 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:20,500 because you will be removed from the space. 455 00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:22,220 We're not trying to prove anything to you. 456 00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:25,780 We are what we are. You are asking to come into our 457 00:26:25,780 --> 00:26:28,300 space around. So just make sure that you come 458 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:31,470 in with the right mindset. What's the wildest thing you 459 00:26:31,470 --> 00:26:33,630 ever seen happen at a game night? 460 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:38,190 Like the shitter. The shit thing. 461 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,990 I've never seen that. Like, you know, I've never seen 462 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:44,350 scouting happening at like a game night or something like 463 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:45,950 that. I feel like that is probably 464 00:26:45,950 --> 00:26:49,070 something that would happen more that gotta be super private. 465 00:26:49,790 --> 00:26:51,510 Yeah, yeah. I think that that would be 466 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:54,470 definitely something or like maybe at a fetish type party, 467 00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:57,790 like that's what they do at that party, you know, caters to that. 468 00:26:58,510 --> 00:27:01,390 Um, so the wildest thing that let's see that subjective of 469 00:27:01,550 --> 00:27:06,270 what is wild, you know, like. Like it's just some people like, 470 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:08,350 like. What they like to me, what is 471 00:27:08,350 --> 00:27:11,790 wild to me, could be very normal to a lot of people, you know? 472 00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:14,190 And then it's like, OK, well then now I'm sounding judgmental 473 00:27:14,190 --> 00:27:17,270 because I'm like, so the wildest thing I saw was this girl, 474 00:27:17,390 --> 00:27:18,110 right? And she. 475 00:27:18,110 --> 00:27:20,590 And it's like now all the people that do that is going to be 476 00:27:20,590 --> 00:27:22,750 like, what? Come on, like me saying like 477 00:27:22,750 --> 00:27:24,510 something that could have just caught you off guard, Like, 478 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:26,870 whoa. Okay. 479 00:27:26,910 --> 00:27:29,350 So something that a culture shock to me. 480 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:35,030 So shock value would probably be God. 481 00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:44,910 God, I I don't know. That's hard. 482 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:47,670 We'll let you get back to that one now we. 483 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:51,030 Yeah, it's a little hard. We went on the on the Instagram 484 00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:55,190 page there's much to explain some things you posted like 2 485 00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:57,970 posts. Shade a screen first? 486 00:28:00,010 --> 00:28:01,650 Okay. Now this right here. 487 00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:08,050 Pet play Yes yes No. Just got the same case. 488 00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:14,210 Now, have you ever? Joined Have I ever done pet 489 00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:14,890 play? Yeah. 490 00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:20,210 I have done some light pet play with Tiny, which that's the 491 00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:24,650 practitioner that's. That owns the cage, but I'm not 492 00:28:24,650 --> 00:28:27,010 a pet. I'm not a pet in the kink world 493 00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:29,570 or more so. I've never really experimented 494 00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:33,210 too much with pets. Like I don't know if I'm a cat 495 00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:35,610 or a Bunny. Or wait, you have to know what 496 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:40,450 you are. So you not that you necessarily 497 00:28:40,450 --> 00:28:44,170 have to know what you are, but you definitely, yeah, I mean, 498 00:28:44,170 --> 00:28:46,010 you have a pet like you are a pet. 499 00:28:46,050 --> 00:28:49,410 Like an avatar. It's a type of submission, so 500 00:28:49,410 --> 00:28:53,340 like, I'm a submissive. But I'm not a pet submissive. 501 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:57,100 Like people that are into pet play, that's how they get into 502 00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,540 submission mode. They'll become the pet that they 503 00:28:59,540 --> 00:29:02,020 identify. So if someone is like a puppy, 504 00:29:02,060 --> 00:29:04,620 they'll act like a puppy, they'll wag their tails, they'll 505 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:08,060 come to you, they wanna be fed snacks, they'll do tricks and 506 00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:11,260 stuff like that. And basically, it's really just. 507 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Their way of going into a space where they don't have to think 508 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,520 about anything. Subs are usually people who have 509 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,520 a lot going on. Like you'll be surprised. 510 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,960 A lot of powerful people are probably submissives in their 511 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000 personal life, and that's because that's the one place 512 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,720 where they don't have to have it all together. 513 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,320 They can pretend like they have no cares in the world. 514 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,440 So they like to go into submissive space. 515 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760 They like to be told what to do. They like to be. 516 00:29:37,170 --> 00:29:40,490 Completely absolved of our responsibility and it's usually 517 00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:41,970 because they're actually very important. 518 00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:45,330 However, people in real life on a daytoday setting, so. 519 00:29:45,610 --> 00:29:48,130 That is, So what pet? What y'all pick if you had to 520 00:29:48,130 --> 00:29:56,170 pick a pet Pussycat. Luke. 521 00:29:57,290 --> 00:29:58,690 I'll pick a sloth. I'm just lay there. 522 00:29:58,690 --> 00:30:01,050 Yo, what? I swear you. 523 00:30:01,130 --> 00:30:08,200 Why was I thinking about that? Yeah, to be in a sloth, they 524 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160 just move slowly. So you want to be a pillow, 525 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Prince, Tomato, Tomato. Look, I had pillow Prince, man. 526 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,880 Both of you. Both. 527 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,280 Said I don't know. No, I didn't say. 528 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,680 I was just thinking that. Yeah, but I didn't pick that. 529 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,360 So what you picking? I bet I'm a dog roof I'm picking 530 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,860 a pillow past. That's interesting. 531 00:30:37,020 --> 00:30:40,340 We have another one that was asking what's going on here. 532 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:44,260 We see it's this page is really one of the wildest pages I've 533 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:45,380 ever seen. It's really good. 534 00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:47,180 I like I like this page when I first saw. 535 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,540 It thank you when you first saw it. 536 00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,260 Yeah, Remember we, I first saw this like about at least like a 537 00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:54,300 year ago? You still like it, right? 538 00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,140 And now he visited every day since. 539 00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:58,820 Hey, what's up On my application? 540 00:30:58,820 --> 00:31:02,140 You'll see it now this right here. 541 00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:05,780 That's also so that's like Dom and sub. 542 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:11,700 They could be a pet, or they could just be submissive like 543 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,020 their own. That is, when a person has a 544 00:31:14,020 --> 00:31:17,500 collar and a leash, it means that their own she is owned by 545 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,460 him. Is that way Is that you?