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getting his teeth done and then just started giving out about 80
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was like, I've got a discount code for that.
To do what as well? I was speaking to Tommy
McCarthy. He got his heart transplant,
didn't he? Yeah.
I don't know why he was speaking to me.
Like the head of her. It's beautiful.
But you just tell me in London, and if you message them or you
follow them, sorry, and like a few photos, they'll be in me
straight away. Like they'll get it sorted.
Yeah. Say them the exact same thing 30
seconds Hi Ram, how are we What do you need treatment for your
hair and through Mckenna's getting involved as well.
I thought through Mckenna's head of her is actually quite, quite
good, but he was like. I think that's one of those ones
where you know it. I think if you caught him in a
windstorm nightmare, like, you know what I mean, he's the top.
He's going forward. Well, I'm just like, you know
what? I'll reveal it.
Got a big forehead? Yeah, there's Connor McLaughlin.
Ram McLaughlin pushed them forward from fullback.
I was talking to someone the other day about about, you know,
I would go to Turkey if I was younger.
Do you know what I mean? Like if I was losing my hair and
I was like in my early 20s, I would definitely go to Turkey
because Turkey is great for a holiday, good spot, cheap fish
bowls. Also, it's warm.
You're getting a holiday out of it.
I'm like, I just, I, I think why would you not?
But then I think you had a certain age where it's like you
just, you can't. I mean, you just can't.
Think that what is the secret? Oh yeah, Dan says if you bring
the Microweaver closer to. So I so I don't think it's a wee
bit. Yeah.
What, what, what what is the secret to your your beautiful
head, head of her? I don't really do anything for
it apart from just like a weeb. So what I do is I would sleep
with like a snap back on with fertiliser in it.
But apart from that, like nothing.
I don't know. Like I my dad has a good head of
her. Some guys in the family would
have a good head of her. But like if I was losing, I
don't think I'd be worried about that.
But then I also think I would look terrible bald.
I think some guys don't look good bald and would suit it.
But I have a weird like you look like you have a normal shaped
head. I'm look, I'm hoping I look like
Pep Guardiola, Vin Diesel do if I go bald.
Yeah, but. I'm going to Turkey, but it's.
More it could be more barabess to.
Be Barb, I'll tell you what it could be.
Barabess. You know what Barabess?
It's got a lovely shaped her head I find circular I.
Don't think he would suit her, you know what I mean?
I think he's better or bald. You see bald people and you see
photos of them from back in the day when they had a fringe.
It doesn't. And it's like, yeah, it doesn't.
Have that spider fringe, So what, I get gaoled down and it's
like single strands, yeah. The only thing is my hair looks
if I got out of a swimming pool, my hair looks terrible.
I don't know what it is. See, because it's like modern
haircuts. If you've got like a wee quiff
going on, whatever way it's cut, it just sits like straight
across and just and just doesn't look good.
And there's loads on loads of stuff.
I want to, I want to talk to you, but I probably met you
about it would have been during the EUR, EUR 2016, you were in
the Northern Ireland squad. There was a media day down in
Dublin. Dublin, yeah.
How amazing is that place you used to stay?
You like through it was like a one mile drive in just to get to
the place, all these like gardens and they did a media day
where all the players were just walking around all these
different WE stations outside and it was like a beautiful day
during the summer And you had like Sky Sports, BBC, ESPN and I
was there with like the BBC Northern Ireland online comedy
department and like even our cameras like were shit compared
to like these top of the range like Sky Sports things.
So I went down and they that's the thing that pissed me off.
They were like, listen, everyone's going to be wearing
suits, all the press people so like dress up.
But I only found out that on the way down and I had a shirt in
the back of the car and it was creased and I only had jeans and
train. I looked, I looked like a
Christian youth minister, you know, I mean, he would have got
bullied. And I got the interview the
players and that was see even doing stuff nowadays like
northern stuff with the players like I I get like so excited to
do it like I love it and went down interview interviewed you
for. But was it the Norway or Norway
was that? One, no.
That was years later. That was in the same place
though. Yeah, but I'm actually
remembered, I think there was a few this.
Was called like stupid questions, ask a stupid
question. And that's when I said that like
I was asking everyone would. It was like loads of quick fire
questions and one of them was would would Jordan not my dad's,
but like sin and everyone's like some people say no, some people
say yes. I asked Josh McGinnis and he's
like, I don't know, I. Remember it?
If we find them, what can I ask him?
And I remember like at that point BBC and someone else had
finished their interviews and they must have word of got round
that these guys were here like asking stupid questions.
So they were sort of watching. And I remember Josh said that
and I pretended to be a lot more like flustered than it was
because I was like, I know he's like being funny about it, but
like nothing got for about a year.
Everyone said to me about that clip.
EUR 2016 feels like so long ago. I told I told I never told just
when I was on my way over to watch a match.
Did you didn't go you? Didn't go, no, no, I, I went the
I actually. So what happened to me?
I was actually playing I was training at the end of the
season and I basically done me at my ankle ligament.
So I was in a boot and that day that had done me ankle ligments.
Michael O'Neill rang me and he was like, I want you to come
away with a squad to the Euros to France.
And I was like, I mean, I have a scan here on Tuesday, like I
don't even know. And then basically it was like 6
to or it was like 8 to 12 weeks I was out for and like so I
ended up going to the first game where Connor started in right.
I went to that one and then I missed the next two moment.
I went to all them like but. Would you have considered lying
about that? No joke like.
For that extent of injury, you couldn't because like they would
have needed to like for like I wouldn't have played like I've
just been there training, but like they wouldn't need needed
to like go to be training. Nothing like preparing because
they had you knew the team basically because obviously
they've done so well on the qualifying, but like if you're
not basically fit the train, it would have been a complete
waste. And because I had a serious
injury, I couldn't have done it if it was like a little a little
growing one or. Yeah, because because when I
hear that about, you know, people in international squads
like, you know, there's like a strain or whatever, part of me
is like, is that common? Like do you think people do
spoof a wee bit about like if it was for the tournament or are
the scans and all that sophisticated and stuff that you
would do, you'd be found out do? You know what it's like the
clubs, obviously, because the club pays you, they're they pay
your wages like they're the ones that would do the scam for you.
And then they would dictate really whether the Northern
Ireland team, they would have the final say if you go away or
not, but they'd obviously see the scan and know Joe, if it's
basically like serious it is or not.
And but see, to be honest, like a lot of see with Northern
Ireland, like everybody wants to go away because like everyone's
just mates, you know what I mean?
Like everyone like it's a really enjoyable like couple of weeks
when maybe some other internationals, international
teams are not like that and. Definitely tell yeah with like
England and they always say like others, you know, the club
rivalries, carryovers, you've got like the players that are
based in Manchester, the London players.
But like anytime I've been around the Northern Ireland
squad, it's just like it is, it's just a big group of me.
It's. Got 0 without you get Kayla
pretty just causing carnage and Josh just learn his average
it'll be fair. Kale Kale gets like a bad sort
of persona, it said. But like, when you actually know
him and like you see him about, like he's just complete lads and
like he's a, he's a top guy, yeah.
He's like he's never done a video with us.
I sort of get it with some of the players because some are are
100% up for it. But then I understand part of it
as well is you're away in like an international training camp,
so you might want to just focus on football and not do that sort
of thing. But he's he's always been like
100% nice. Like, yeah.
Like to us? But yeah, it always seems like a
big group of mates when I meet the northern squad and then me
like kind of hanging, hanging around the outskirts trying not
to like, because I don't want to like take up.
Like when we're filming a video, people come up and chat then how
are you and that sort of thing. And like, I do get like very,
very starstruck. I do a good job of hiding it,
but like massively like I just love it.
And I'm always sort of looking for like training gear lying
about. Is that your?
Plug to me that this like the throwaway better gear your way.
I nicked a pair of boots. The chair from I was playing a
charity game. Was that was that a Crusaders?
No. Was that when you when you love
to keep everything and people have seen that?
We'll talk about that. Yeah, let's discuss it, Yeah.
First of all, pay but you, Nick was Northern Ireland under 20
ones, had played France under 20 ones and I was playing in a
charity game the next day for Vauxhall.
I played in that game with that France, Northern Ireland.
It could be my boots. Yeah, yellow threads.
That I could imagine. We were, there was stuff like we
were like all catered out. It was this, this charity game.
The our manager was Jim McDonald from Coronation Street, Big
Charlie Lawson, he was our manager.
Gillespie was playing Sammy McElroy, few others.
And then it was just all like competition winners.
I didn't I they asked me to plan like I just don't think I
entered. I didn't enter a competition.
But what were you like all stripped out?
All the gear was there in like the proper changing room and
where where I was put there was like 2 pairs of socks like
French national team socks, a pair of boots, a pair of yellow
Peres, a toile and Ali Daz toile and I just took it.
So is that the France from the Francis team?
But they left like you know, they left the next day, do you
know? He played now France team
against us like big dogs. Rabio Thomas, Lamar Denbelly up
top. Osmond Denbelly was on the
bench. Yeah, he came on like Bakayoko,
like big players like so could be one of the hers.
I mean, I should find out who it was and then sell them on eBay.
But Oh yeah, Michael. See, here's the thing.
When I play in like charity matches and all that sort of
thing, there's no expectation on me to play well.
So if I like, you know, miss the ball or it hits me and goes out
of play, it doesn't matter because people go, he's doing a
bit, you know what I mean? Like funny bastard, he's
pretending he slipped there, you know.
But then if I do anything, then people are like, I can't believe
that. And that charity, like the
standard of that was probably better because there was like
Jimmy Gilton was playing skin Barry Johnson.
There was like loads of boys who probably didn't stop playing
that long ago, unlike Sammy. Something like Sammy McElroy and
Gillespie was playing Frampton. It was unreal.
What? Was Frampton like, was he good?
He was good. I think at the start of the game
he was like, I can't really run because he was like in a
training camp for a fight. So he's like, I can't really
like get hurt. And then after like 20 minutes,
I think. I think once he saw me score a
goal, he thought anyone can do it and he started really trying.
But he was like, he was fast, like very fit, as you'd imagine.
But me, I scored that goal. I don't blame he was in Nets
you're like you played well whenever.
No, no, but I know he's an Irish League legend, didn't they?
Well, he just played Premier League as well, did he?
Yeah, he played against Arsenal and I think the FA Cup final
think yeah play against like Terry, Henry and.
They didn't lob them, did they? They didn't lob.
No, I don't think. I think Henry managed to
fluently get one past them. But yeah, I mean, I've just
basically like Magellan has has knocked one to me.
I'm about 25 yards out in front of the opposition dugout, big
DJ, big David Jeffrey watching. And I'm also thinking I play
well here. But you know, I go to Bellamy
and yeah, take a touch on my left.
I'm right footed, by the way, Spotted Blaney was about an inch
and a half off his line. And then all of done is just
wrapped the boot round it and it's gone in.
And I couldn't enjoy it because I was so panicked that it wasn't
caught in video. Someone was videoing for
Facebook Live some kid and I was like playing but also like
looking for him to go. Did you get that?
I didn't really get a good enough version of it.
So the next day I contacted the cruise and asked their security
team if they could get the CCTV in the game.
He's about to say look like a CCTV.
Video it is. It's as a time going all the
top. Eric Allen Blaney realises your
favourite side stories like I remember you're not making a
certain Rory McIlroy. I don't like another one.
I don't really like to talk. About, you know.
No, sometimes you've got to have a bit of class.
But tell you what it was it was playing five aside in Bangor and
I didn't know he was playing. It was him and his mates mate
brought me but didn't really tell me he was playing.
I'm wearing the Brazil shirt from Things 2002.
So you bring that your inner Ronaldinho.
I'm wearing that, but it's like a baggy one.
I'm wearing quite sure. Like I look, I look like I'm
either going to be brilliant or terrible.
First minute of the game, balls played to me.
McElroy comes in from the side, but after I've seen him come in,
he's not like he's not going side on.
He's just running at me straight and he doesn't know which way
I'm going to go. The legs are open.
I've not looked. I've just touched it with the
outside of my boot, spun around him like Berkamp.
And then I did it again about 3 minutes later.
Twice. Yeah, twice.
That's that's disrespectful now, like.
And, you know, here's the thing, we didn't even like chat after
this one. I just started doing my video.
So I had no idea if he would know me.
And then because he's got his mates, I didn't like, I'm not
somebody, like, go up and, like, bother someone.
So I was like, I'll leave him to it.
And then that night I saw him out in Hollywood and we were
chatting about it and, like, laughing about it.
Yeah. And he was saying that that's
kind of the reason behind a lot of his success.
He said that moment sort of spurred him on to achieve
greatness. Yeah.
You know, and he said like I
always think of, you know, when he's thinking of like, you know,
inspirational people or heroes, as he would say he thinks of me
playing five aside and the and not like the Nielsen Brazil
shirt. I was actually surprised he'd
done that video with you after that, but then obviously because
you inspired him, that's obviously why.
Just giving you so you return the favour really wouldn't.
They we did a video across the road, Ned's Bar, Maple Bar.
And then I'd actually never met him.
You know, he's one of those people who like say, if you're
from Hollywood, everyone was his best mate as a child.
Everyone will be like, no, me and Rory used to fucking golf
balls and all the driving range. And it's like, well, there is no
driving range in Hollywood. You don't know.
But he like agreed to do the video and I thought he was going
to arrive like managers, agents just showed up by himself.
I said is anything like off limits, saying anything you
don't want to talk about? He literally was like, take the
piss out of me as much as you want.
Like he, you know, he was fine for the joke to be on him and
but then the thing about the McGoldrick stuff is the joke
will always be on me. Like I'm I'll look like a bigger
Dick than you will, basically. So he was he was class.
He was really funny, but I I was really ill.
Then I just had my appendix taken out and got diagnosed with
Crohn's disease. And in the video, I look like a
skeleton in a purple T-shirt. I look so bad, but he's a
legend. Like, so good.
Yeah, he's. I I do love him like from there
I've never I've I think I've met him.
Maybe we've come to Northern Ireland squads to like chat
these. Yeah, yeah, he's came in and
like, yeah. I never been asked to do.
That I don't understand that to be honest, because he's like.
Or play. See, sometimes when I'm doing a
video for the IFA, you know, when it's like, oh there's, you
know, there's a friendly against, you know, Honduras.
Yeah, I'm going I. Mean that's only caps I get, so
you may as well jump on board as well.
Me and you upfront. The summer tours are my cops
like I missed this one because it was it was injured for
forsake. I look at the squads for some of
the summer tours and go, come on 20, give me 25 minutes at the
end. 100% just jump on board with me.
You should actually do a football video.
If that would be, I would go down well.
And I wore a GoPro ahead the whole game and be miked up.
Incredible. So let's let's go back right.
Like you, The first time I I saw or heard you or became aware of
you was when I was watching the Liverpool documentary.
Oh yeah. Brendan Rodgers, manager, was on
Channel 5. Yeah, yeah, I think so.
I've got about 20 DVDs in the House of it.
Like, yeah, watch it back there it.
Was like behind the scenes, but like before that, because
obviously now you've got the Sunderland documentary, Man
City. This was like before all these
and I was like right in the dressing room.
And it was brilliant. It was fascinating.
Like I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I loved it.
And then that part of it was covering A preseason tour to the
States. And then it introduced you.
You were like 16 at the time. Yeah, 7th just turned, 7 just
turned. 17 and you're running into Roma Yeah and you Mark
Toddy Francesco Toddy like and just marked them out of the game
it. Was actually quite chilled.
You know, I had, do you know what Joe was the maddest thing,
right? I was kind of five said about
two weeks, 3 weeks before out of the Grobner right in the falls.
And I'd literally like, I remember like honestly, like I
remember my thought process. I was just sat down in the
change room of Fenway Park, which was an iconic stadium as
well. Yeah.
And Rogers comes over to me and he was like, look, look, Sean,
rub my face. He was like, Todd, he's going to
play in the left wing. He's 36.
He won't fancy it. He was like, you banter me.
He won't fancy it. He's like, he won't track back
for you. I was like, right, right.
So I'll just rub him forward a little bit.
And then I was like, right, OK, no problem.
So I was like, sort of like go focusing on the game.
I just hear people speaking and like, like heard someone.
I shake someone's hand to my left and I looked up James Bond.
Daniel Craig is just standing there, a big Liverpool fan going
around shaking everyone's hand. And I was like.
Was he playing for Roma? No, he was at the kid, he was at
the he was walking around just introducing himself to everyone
and I was like, I was thinking myself.
I was literally playing. If I ever say it, remind me it's
a few weeks ago and I'm about to mark Toddy in front of 45,000
and Daniel Craig's children about the change room before
introducing themselves to me as if I don't know him.
Before that, like 2 a couple weeks before you were marking a
50 year old 20 stone brick player.
And he absolutely had me an absolute nuts.
But I remember the first part of the game, the ball came out the
top like the keeper ping the ball, the Toddy and I was behind
him. So trying to win the header,
ball comes down to Toddy and just goes bomb off his shoulder
straight back to the centre half and then just jogs away like out
there as if it was not. But I was like, there's levels
this game. That was not.
Madness. Yeah, it was you know what as
well, actually had a good game. Oh yeah, I remember coming in
after it and like Kyger was shooting like oh, like brilliant
right back because it was the young kid that was starting and
it was me and Raheem Sterling when he was starting was 16.
I was 17. So madness.
He was 16 as well. And then so because it was the
first game of pre season, everyone played 1/2 each.
So like so our our team finished and the rest went to watch the
second-half. I went and jumped in the Jacuzzi
with dual Cole and I was just like, this is the modest
experience. I really was just sadly just
talking about his Chelsea days to me like and I was just like
as a 17 year old here and that I was just like, let me.
You're talking about your Glen Avon day, yeah.
Glenavon, Lisburn, New stairs. Yeah, I was like, I remember,
remember Joe Cooler played Shankill United away and should
have seen the hostility. Or like, I mean, it might be
Galatasher in the Champions League, but Shankles, the
Shankill is an absolute. It is hostile.
Like you show me more hostile environment than the hammer.
So yeah, that whole experience was just, but you don't realise
you're in a bubble. I mean, you don't realise how
many like my mates were in, were in Grand Canaria watching the
match. So we're like on the strip.
And I just like, that's mental. Do what I mean, because like,
it's like I was everywhere. And like you don't realise like,
because you're in a bubble over there until you come home.
Like, you go out the box and you're like, Sanders, I'd say
give me a VIP and you're like, could have made it here, you
know, made it. What?
How did you get on Brendan Rodgers?
I got along with before I got along well, partly because
obviously he's from back home as well and.
Delighted they have you on board, yeah.
He pronounces his tease a lot. So what?
I mean, like, it's not like you can tell he's been in England
the way but he was he was a top guy before and he was obviously
he first came in and he brought me away straight away.
And but he was, I feel like it was sort of hard done by a
little bit at Liverpool because he had an unbelievable like time
there and then he lost Suarez and then obviously he's very
hard to replace. Yeah.
And then just the gobsy they got rid of.
But then you see club coming and I think if club didn't come in
and another manager come in and failed and people would have
been like, well, this is like Brandon was this good because
club come in and just completely like tore up the script really.
Where are you from, Belfast? The West.
The glorious West. And what what's it like when you
are 1617 plan for Liverpool, You know, when you come home, what's
what's the like reaction that like the people love it or
people just. Mate, mate, Cricky Mccune,
right? He's one of my good mates.
He was like, don't care, you'll be at Lincoln in five years.
So every birthday, Cardi said. Just just have a Lincoln Crest
on the on the thing. I was like, I take a move to
Lincoln now, to be fair, but see back here.
I mean, no, it's not as like I would have a Panther and also
like I just sent the photo of me and Toddy into the group chat.
But see, to be honest, the main thing I'd done was like, I, I
when I go home, like first thing I want to do is get a Chinese.
I can go back to the local chip or the Chinese.
And that woman, like she always had a Liverpool tracksuit on.
Like I feel in West Belfast, right?
The bigger the schmick behind to know the counter, the better the
Chinese. See what I mean?
And she had like you Liverpool tracksuit on, but you could tell
she was mailed out and like because I obviously played for
Liver like she was proper buzzing.
So it got extra Curry and all of it and a few chicken balls like.
But that's basically the gist of the perks of playing for
Liverpool really got me. She is that like do you know
what the definitely the most smacked at Liverpool top was?
Do you remember the one that was like yellowy gold with like
black trim all rounded? Carlsberg.
And how do we round neck? Yeah, 100% that.
And then like the bright yellow one with red trim, round neck.
Reebok. Yeah.
Reebok. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I. Get smacked off a few smacks for
name tops back in the day. Like there's there is logic to
what you say, though, because like you know, if you in the
Chinese in the West and I'm serving you stinking.
Yeah, alarm bells are ringing. Like oh mate.
Yeah, but I don't understand why like Chinese he see changes in
England. They're they're horrific, but
like I don't know why like they're so good here.
Like it's such a random place now.
Amazing Chinese is. Yeah, because you, you think
like Chinese people would be confused if they if they came
here, you know? You know, it's coming here on
holiday for whatever reason, you know, no reason they wouldn't go
to like, say they go to, you know, Turf Lodge or something
for a holiday. You know, if you want to let off
a bit of steam and then, you know, you're walking around
looking for some deep, the last thing you're going to expect to
see is a traditional Chinese. But then it's the whole thing
that like, that's not what they eat in China.
I know. I actually wondered that.
Like when you're in China, take it they wouldn't have like like
a gravy chip of chicken balls and sweet.
Or two litre bottle of MILF. 100%.
Yeah, I think they're more in the like dried type food, you
know, like I don't like Dan. You've been to China.
Yeah. And what was the cuisine was
there? Like, you know, chicken ball
specials. Couldn't get a chicken ball
special. That saved my life when I was
out there. Well, what is it, like
grasshopper? You know it isn't it like
there's like fish head Stew? Yeah.
And then they love stuff like Peking Duck, which is like,
well, yeah, Peking ducks. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I know half and halfs. Won't be the chain and then
we'll be going there. Do you, do you remember?
Yeah, people here would always say that, like if they heard
that go like I never go to China.
It's like you wouldn't anyway. I remember when you were playing
for Liverpool, you, me, were chatting on Twitter.
We're big fans of Suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're big fans
of suits. And I remember you saying that
you had a chance to go to the MLS on loan.
Toronto, Yeah. You didn't go.
Should you have gone? Probably that.
Well, you weren't going to go because you were like, you know,
you wanted to like have a real go at Liverpool.
Yeah, Do you know what it was? So they come in for me on loan
and Gary McAllister was like this assistant, I think the
Brian Rodgers and Scottish fella.
And he was telling he was going about Liverpool busy saying,
look, I don't know why the young players aren't going to
Scotland. Like it's a good, very good
league to go to. And I was speaking to the
Academy director at the time of Liverpool, Alex Singlethorpe,
and he was saying if you go ahead to Toronto, like, and with
the games on Sky Sports sometimes, but like it's going
to be like 4 in the morning, not many people are going to see you
out there. If you go to Scotland, it's
different. So I ended up going to Aberdeen
like and to be honest, I do regret not going to Toronto
because the experience out there would have been unbelievable.
And I think now people are like the MLS has got better from back
then even, but I think Jermaine Defoe would have been up top for
Toronto. I think I would have been.
I would have been unbelievable and the city of.
Toronto JD. Like 100% could.
You imagine, Yeah, could you imagine?
But yeah, apparently Toronto was going to be an unbelievable
city. But like, obviously because
Suits is filmed there as well. So I was like half like bit
reagent, like some print. If there's anybody ever just
trying to cheapskate watching this podcast, I mean, I just
need a right back. We're receiving her line.
I'm here waiting on this. Like if you had, if you hadn't
made that move, Prince Harry wouldn't be married to Meghan
Markle right now. I mean, you know what it's.
Just the reality of it. So what happened?
I was just watch. I was, I remember it was pre
season in Ireland and I was just like, so we were just like
obviously had a lot of free time.
We were in the middle of the worst where it wasn't much to
do. So I was obviously watching
those, binge watching Suits and I just thought, you know, I took
a photo of Meghan Markle on the screen and just wrote Rachel's
Rachel from Suits AKA Meghan Markle is an Angel face or
something, right? Love it.
Yeah, they're in standard. And so I was just like, so I
just put my phone down and started watching the rest of it.
I think it could have been the photocopying scenes or a
photocopy room scene. Megan Red Pillar having a good
time notification on my phone. Megan, Margo, thank you.
You're so kind with the heart. Had you?
Added her. I followed her.
But did you add her in? Your message, yeah, Added I said
Rachel, AKA at Megan Margo. Yeah.
So it was like a tactical one. Yeah, she replied to little
Liverpool fans that reply to it. And then when she replied, it
just blew you up, right? And then she followed me back.
And many years ago, would this be 10?
2015, right? Yeah, not like I'm counting 20th
of March. I'm with my girlfriend now from
2016, so don't worry. Don't worry, you're alright.
So 2015 this would have been and.
Now when she responds, is that a public response?
That's. A public response.
Thank you. You're so kind Quote tweeted as
well. Oh, so I was like, that's a bit.
She wants to put herself in the back.
I was like, yeah, chill. I mean, like quote tweeted,
like. But so then everyone went mental
over it and everyone was like, what?
Like only you would pull this off.
Yeah. And so I was.
Like people said that to her. Yeah, of course only you pull
off Liverpool team player, but she must be about it was
probably about 1920. She must have been in her late
20s. And at this point, do you
thinking you never know. You must be thinking like you
never know. So, you know, so I, I was like
what I do here. I remember saying that in the my
group shop back in the day, I was like, and they were like
DMR. I was like, right, OK, so DM, they're going all that
reaction or something like this here.
It was funny. And then she like replied and
then she wrote again to me that she double messaged going would
would have put out a tweet about her her campaign that she's
doing. So he's like, yeah, yeah, no
problem, blah, blah. I was like done that.
And then like we're. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And he was like United Nation
women's or something. So then we were speaking for a
while, just not much. Like it wasn't like wasn't heavy
like people may think it was, you know what I mean?
But tabloids it wasn't. Heavy, right?
And then she ended up, I think she said, oh, we're filming,
we're filming Toronto. And that's when Toronto came in
for me on. I remember that.
Yeah. Yeah.
But. And like I didn't really like I
must have got cold feet. So I mean, so I ended up going
to Aberdeen. But then she was like, if you're
ever there is some difference, I guess they're like I went to
live with now I'm getting Aberdeen now of course I'd
rather live for you and then. So you, you mugged her, you
mugged her off. Her off like I just she's gone.
Suits about to start filming in Toronto?
Come on over, basically. I'd say tell me, you said.
I just I mugged her off for you. You said, listen, I'm getting a
one way ticket, Aberdeen, that's where I'm going.
She's still following. She deleted her Twitter as soon
as you remember Prince Harry. I know, I know.
I was about to say DMR right now and just go if I hadn't have
gone Aberdeen dot dot dot question mark at Piers Morgan.
She said she goes, If you're ever over in Toronto, I'll show
you around the set and I was like, what?
I was like straight, I went, if you're ever in the UK, I'll
return the favour and you can. Come to a game.
I would say the baby it says like, right, I'll like you
should come up, pretend to be fans, ask me for photos and all
right, I'll just say I'm injured.
I've got a way. How many injury use my agents
box Saddam Field and bring her up to that.
How did all work? They all planned there like, but
yeah, then I remember the next international trip, like they
were talking about it and like Kay Lafferty of course goes to
me Lassie, let's see the message.
Let me see the message. What I do, I give him a phone to
see the message and he tweets her like or he messages.
They're going like what's the crack glove or something?
They got there something stupid like WDC and I had to like grab
a phone on like and go like, sorry, that was my friend.
And like she like 1:00 AM once they go like she knows I'm
showing the message or something and then she goes, oh, don't
worry, say hello to your friend from me and I say flip sick.
So he's basically he he partly done it as well.
He probably ruined the vibe. Yeah.
Oh, man, what could have been? But you wouldn't want that press
interaction, you know what I mean?
You're happy. Now could you imagine like I
wouldn't be able to walk down, imagine me going for a Chinese
for Megan Marko W Belfast. No, no chance sheet.
She likes the chicken balls. That's like gravy you're getting
here where it's like tar. It's not like gravy, it's tar.
She'd have been straight back to Toronto.
That's the one of the don't sell enough of it to sell to the road
service. 100%. So you know, you play for
Northern Ireland, Liverpool the first time you left Liverpool
School, Aberdeen. The first loan was Barnsley.
Barnsley. Yeah, a genius.
Patti McCourt. I know your career, Yeah.
What do you mean? Patti McCourt set it up.
No, he was there. No, he was he.
Was there? And let me what a guessy guy is
a disgrace of a player like how good he is do.
You remember it was like there was a period where he played
like 3 Northern Ireland games in the Bonds and seemed to score
three of the best goals I've ever seen in my entire.
Life you know Liver he was telling me Liverpool were in
form after it and they went then they've gone with continue like
but they shoot yeah, I mean to be honest, rather party like you
may do, but you may do much track.
I'm back for you, but what a genius of a player.
He was the module. If he played like in the 80s I'd
be convinced he'd be like a George Best or like that era.
Yeah, because I remember like my first training so like I just
came from Liverpool like I'm doing quite well.
I was like so I sort of like to do it not having myself, but I
was like I should do well here and all yeah and he just humbled
me straight away like you just you get the ball.
He was playing so it was like the starting eleven against the
sub 11 before day before game and he was left wing in the
other team and like he came in and pretended to hit a diag.
So I was like trying to block the diag and he just chopped me
and then chopped me again and then chopped me again and I was
like basically on the on my ass and I was like what a player.
Well, that's the thing he never like, there was no like step
over. There was no like Flick.
It was literally just that George Best thing, a drop in the
shoulder. Like just jinking in 100.
Percent and he there's actually on YouTube, right?
There's clips versus him versus Leicester in the Championship
for Barnsley, right? Jimmy Vardi, Danny drink water
to all the prime winners, like they were all playing for
Leicester and you should have seen what he done to them.
Like it was like the the, the talent he had was just.
Just a pity, like you couldn't have enjoyed him for like a lot
because he, I was quite late in his career when he was like
entering an international and all that sort of thing.
So he's just ripping it up at Derry City for so.
Long I'm gutted and never seen him really at Derry because they
would have been quite young then but then obviously it was a
Celtic fan. So like seeing him at Celtic and
all that there and then obviously playing with him at
Barnsley, I was, I was, that was the attraction of going there.
Right. What was it like playing for
Liverpool, living in Liverpool and like with attention from
people and you left your own sort of devices or say you're
walking through the tracksuit on, you know?
You know, back then, like LFCTV was massive, so it was like free
on Sky. So like everyone watched it,
especially Liverpool fans. So like when you're a young
player, like you got serious like attraction and obviously
going away when I was 17 that got me a bit as well and going
out and never put you would get like a good bit.
And then all my mates were over in Liverpool for uni as well and
we all live like 5 minutes away from each other.
I didn't drink at the time so it wasn't no problem for me.
Like I wasn't going out all I flat out blah, blah, blah, blah.
But like when they go out with them like you would, you get
like everyone did like because of LFCTV but especially people.
From home that were at uni and the Liverpool fans and they see
you like us. A lot of time back home you
would have got it the most like because.
You get any shit? You got sometimes you would and
then sometimes you'd be like in the middle of dance floor, like
you don't give him the bottom a few shapes and some fellow comes
up and he goes hear me about Brian Rogers like in So what I
mean like Chris Brown forever is getting pledged on the dance
floor and you're like it's about the kick in the course and like
he's asking what Brendan Rodgers is like, what's the tactics?
Like? I was just like, Ah, they Get Me
Out of here. But I mean, sometimes you would
get a little bit like just a few like comments and that.
But see, to be honest, it's one of them ones where because they
didn't drink like I probably didn't raise to it.
Or anything what I. Mean like it's always serves the
steaks. He's just a GIMP.
They just leave it at that. Yeah, yeah.
And it didn't apply to it, but not you didn't really get much.
So you get a lot, most of it's a lot of support.
Like most of it's a lot of support like obviously I when I
was like 17 to like 20. 1970 to 19, I just want the concentrate
and Liverpool I just because in the international breaks during
Liverpool, like you got the BSCB with the first team for the
whole 2 weeks. And I wanted to be, I wanted to
be doing that because it was like I was either going away
with like the 20 ones, but like I felt like Liverpool first team
training with them would have been like a lot better.
And I remember obviously people will give me a bit of stick
about that because I thought, oh, he's going to Republic.
That's why he's not, he's not coming away, blah, blah, blah.
And that was literally just because of that.
And then obviously I went away when I was 19 or something to
the my first trip to actually, I went away in one trip actually
when I was 17. It was Azerbaijan at home.
And I was like, I was an IO because I was the old Northern
Ireland squad. So I mean, that was an eye
opener door where they were like, yeah, it's probably bring
your own skin. Yeah, stopping a JJB Sports on
the way there. Go in and buy yourself a full
kit. And that was like, but yeah, my
first trip away then was in the summer, like in a shark.
It was my summer caps that I get and that was in Uruguay and
Chile, but that was that was unbelievable.
Like I love that so. And is like, you know, is is
there have you got shit for playing for Northern Ireland
just like you know what in the boat or just got a feeling that
like people don't like that. The people we banter yeah, but
it like how a bit of crack we about it like but no like so you
get you get like the the people where you go and see you you go
to Windsor and saying God save a queen.
Now we do you go and do like all that as they just laugh at it.
But like yeah, most of them are honestly really supportive.
Like see now like I don't think nobody really cares anymore.
So I mean, I know you see like the media you see like you've
seen obviously the violence like few months back, Yeah.
And like, the majority of people aren't like the majority of
people don't care. About that or politics is coming
out of it less than. Less and it's the younger people
coming through that like don't care and like hopefully that
will stay that way for the future because at the end of the
day, who like I remember when you were a kid like you didn't.
I went my mum and dad made sure I joined Lisburn new film.
It was like 11 because it was Catholic and Protestants.
So I got I was my first time meeting Protestants and it was
like, so like you were thinking they were from outer space.
Yeah, it's what I really do. Before it like you were like,
there's someone going to meet Protestants here, but like all
my good mates and ended up being Protestants as well.
And then just realising flip me, everyone's just the same.
Yeah, yeah, it's just like. I just picture you just like
touching each other's face, like inspecting them.
You know what? I mean, I was like, you came in
a car, Where's your spaceship? Because you never met them even
though they were 5 minutes away. And so it is people, even in
England, people don't understand that.
Like people don't understand that there's still a wall with a
gate that closes at a certain time and between the Falls and
the Shankill and they're like. What?
Yeah, I mean, that shows you that it's not that, but like it
can be bad, but if there's a gate to close a certain time of
night, you know? When I was saying that, I was
like, it doesn't sound right my head when I'm explaining it to
them, yeah, it's like, it's not like that, but then it's.
Like, fill your boots until half nine and then I'm shutting this
gate. Yeah.
That's why it was this, it was just like, explain it to people
like it's hard because like where I live, it's just, it's
just obviously all Catholic. And then we're like mates, we
live here, Protestants, just all Protestants.
And they're like, what? So we just don't, just don't
mix. And I was just like, it's sad
really, when you're like having the reply to that.
But sports is the way a lot of people mix like. 100%.
At the minute, you're free agent.
Yeah, yeah. So what?
What? What's what's that like?
I've just been on the phone to Keith Cruz flattered the past
few weeks about glass Pelicans like.
Don't, do not trust that man to find your club.
No. Not okay boy, it takes 80% get
we'll get get you a boot date bluestone cement like no, he's
no no, not to be not to be trusted like.
It's weird. It is a weird.
Thing just waiting for like a phone call.
Yeah, well, I mean. And is your agent also?
He's making calls. Yeah, he'd, so he'd be speaking
to clubs and then obviously during because COVID and all
blah, blah, like there's so many free agents at the minute.
So like, I know so many like Connors, we're going to be
Connors can be a free agent. You could you and your brother
play in the same position sometime?
So like you could theoretically be competing to go to the same
club, Yeah. Or a club could be like down to
the lot. It could be between you and.
Him he may hope that we're not competing as I'll be taking that
spot like so you know what, we actually nearly got same by the
same club before all I was a he was a Fleetwood, sorry, and
Fleetwood came in for me when I was at Oldham and he was like
I'm going to play Connor right over three.
I remember I met him. He's like going to play kind of
right over 3. Joey Barn.
No, no UA Rosler, right? Yeah, yeah.
And he was like, I want you playing right wing back.
And he was like, so I was like, I ran Connor and he's like, and
wait a minute, I was like, right, OK, that's a should have
told me or what? But that's the only time really.
But what? Obviously we played a few
Northern Ireland games together. It's weird like because I
remember who came on against Costa Rica, I think it was a
couple of years ago, Conor was right back.
I was right wing for some reason.
I play right wing when I'm going to play and doing like when you
see the left winger coming at him, you're like, yeah, since
he's my brother, I'll come back and help him here.
I'll try back for but but then he's not help me when I'm going
forward. But it is it would be good to
play, play together, but. Would you go like, would you go
anywhere realistically different abroad?
At Toronto MLS, Yeah, just throw out in the tweet when we're
announcing it. But like, that's the thing, not
many players from here go abroad.
I know. You know what I mean?
Like only really English players.
It's only started to really happen like last maybe 3-4
years. Yeah.
Like Germany, France, all different places.
So would you like like if the day was right, like would you,
would you go to, you know, India or, or like somewhere like are
you open to just let's see what happens?
COVID race too high and the at the minute, like I don't know if
it's true for her, but you know what, Robbie Furler.
So I just pick that name up. He rang me a couple of years
ago, like going to Brisbane because he was Brisbane manager,
wasn't he? Yeah.
But like on my, like Wikipedia page or something, someone must
have said I put an Australian flag beside my, my banter.
It's like he was like, if you got any family in Australia
because like, because they have certain international spaces and
they had all their international spaces used up, but they thought
like, I have Australian, I mean, I'll be able to go over.
So I was like, I don't know, like, you know, so I, I rang
with that. I was like, ring me there and
I'll get back to you. So rang him and I was like, we
got anyone in from Australia in our family.
And he was like, you've got a, you've got a second cousin of
words. Been there about 5 years.
Like I was like, yeah, I don't like that one qualified.
So I'd rather ring him. But he ended up going over to
India after that but don't know India.
Like. It's like I need to be a good
Julie if you're going abroad or have to be like a.
You want to be competitively and be be being seen, yeah.
I'm being still like, I still from I'm basis like I'm 26.
So I still want to like go to like somewhere like it's a good,
good level. But I don't know.
I'd love to go there. I would love to try America.
I would love to get out there at 1:00.
Point you just train by yourself at the minute.
Yeah, yeah, just taking over, Yeah, basically.
So until basically and you're just basically waiting by your
phone, you see him when but I mean, it's still the season will
start early July. So so from from now to then I'll
just be be hectic really with 'cause you literally like I
don't even know where I'm going to be living in four weeks.
So I. Mean that's not it could be.
Anywhere in the world. And it's not like, you know, if
you're someone who plays over here and you're, you know,
you're going to sign for a club, it's like, OK, you're still
going to be able to live in your house and all that.
But like England, Scotland, like up, it's case of like pack all
your stuff and leave and move. I've been, I've been renting for
like eight years because in football you just don't know
where you're going to be. I should have bought like
because I ended up being in the Northwest most of the time, but
like you didn't know where you're going to be.
So obviously had the early loan offer of like Toronto in
America. So like you're thinking, you
know, things like that'll come up or like so I just didn't want
to like because I haven't got it.
Like I haven't like sell down with the kids or anything and
all that there yet. So I didn't have that, any of
that on me. So that's why I didn't really
buy because you just don't know where you're going to be.
And me in 4 weeks time it could be literally.
Timbuktu be anywhere Timbuktu Swift what?
What's the funniest thing anyone's ever said?
Do you during a match or showed it that you're like, does
anything stand out that's really made like just taking your
unawares or anything you've seen in a crowd?
No, you know I got abused properly when I was 16, right?
It doesn't sound right. But verbally abused, right?
That's better. So doesn't serve.
I didn't start that off well, right, and it was Craig Bellamy
that done it right. I'll just pick at the but I
remember. So like I just went over and the
under nineteens Liverpool had a young a youth Champions League
game on like the Tuesday. So this was a Monday and the
under eighteens of Liverpool were playing the basically the
players that weren't really playing for the first team.
You were just in a behind closed doors friendly just to get them
fitness and my manager of the youth team is like because
you've got a game tomorrow, like would you be able to do lanes
man for us for the game? So he's like I say great, OK,
because like make sure you give us as much as you can to like
help us out because we're playing the first team.
It's like, yeah, yeah, no problem.
I was like hyped up in August, like a like manager and all.
So like our under 18 striker went through on gold Quatas
comes from behind, slight tackles him like don't know if
he got the ball, but obviously I'm flagging for a penalty.
I didn't even click on it. I was doing the like, you know
like the proper like. You're just moved to the
offside, yeah. Yeah, but I was just doing right
on the penalty. And all I hear is yeah, yeah.
Fucking wait. That kid.
What the fuck you doing? You fucking just everything.
I just turn around. Craig Bellamy spreading towards
me. I'm 16 and I was like fuck off
you dickhead, go back to the verbals.
Just kept going on forever. I was like, Oh my God, I'm
sacked here. Like I just.
Just told it like a first team member to just the fuck off and
and then kind of these walks over to me, I'm like, Oh my God,
I'm done. Like the first team manager he
was at the time, yeah. He was like, fucking love that
from you, son. Don't take no shit.
I was like, don't Claire. Now go back to the training
ground with a McGregor walk. At six, taking it too far.
Just shoulder and boys in the corridors.
And everyone to what? All the Academy were buzzing to
like the staff members and all they were just like, you know
what? So because I was like flipping,
I was only over there a few months, yeah, but I was homesick
as anything size like half thinking just go home.
So yeah, go home there. And they were all buzzing like.
So that's probably like one of the like when you're 16, like
you're just a wee bit like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Bellamy had that fuse to and train them were like you could
properly flip. Was all that time but racer with
the Golf Club like Jesus Christ? Oh yeah.
I wasn't there Liverpool at that time like but.
Are there less characters like that in football now, do you
think? I think.
But you know what I think I don't think there is.
I think it's hidden probably well, because the media are
like, yeah, obviously. Well, yeah.
And I think, I don't think. And the public, I think
Christmas dues, like all things they got there, would be like
way more timid than what? It used to be OR initiation.
Yeah, yeah, because you wouldn't get away with it because there's
camera phones everywhere, blah, blah.
Like people you'd be on tech talking about 5 minutes if you
do something in a club on Christmas Day.
And so I think that takes away maybe the characters like
showing themselves, but like behind closed doors in the
change, you know, the crack still there, like it's still
like you still be doing different things.
They could be it's still fun, but I don't know what it's like.
Probably first team level in the Premier League.
I was still I'd say Jimmy Vardy, like would have a laugh.
What I mean, yeah, yeah, I can see like maybe I don't know what
the because the foreigners like their their type of cracks
probably different from like ours and England as well.
So I don't know how that comes across.
But in League One or not in the Championship and all, I'm sure
it's all the same. Really like the crack in
Northern Ireland's class. I remember you were when I do
gig in Liverpool and we were sort of hanging out and you said
about washing, washing your own training kit.
Oh. Yeah, at Blackpool.
At Blackpool, Yeah, Madness. Like I just wouldn't believe
that. You know what's mad, right?
So they were like their big club, obviously stadiums class.
They were in League One at the time and we were we were
training at an old driving range at a what an old driving range,
right. And I was like, I didn't know
it. So obviously before send, but
and the manager was paying for it.
Like he ended up leaving because of it and because this was the
oysters were the owners right and they wouldn't put any money
into it. So we were we were training
there. We had to like wash your own
kit. And I was like, I'd never wash
my own kit like my life. So I was like what?
So I'd be like, I I think you'll forget about it like the like
the night before and I was smelly kid that throw it in the
wash. I'd be getting up at 4:00 AM to
get it out of the thing to put it on the do you know what I
mean? And then waking up a few hours
later to go to training. I was like, Oh my God.
So like things like that still happen.
Like there's still probably some clubs that do watch their own
kid but like and you have to bring it in and also like you
may forget few things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Guess it was Blackpool, he's a big club but don't think they do
it now they've got a new one and all.
Like it's proper club, proper club like, but that was crazy.
Let's talk about the podcast. So you do you set a podcast
during lockdown or was it before that?
October. Around October during during
covered sort of times and a boxing podcast as well, which
boxing is has been popular in Northern Ireland for so long.
But I feel like it's going through like a real boom where
like boxing sort of a weird thing, like only your dad knew a
wee bit about boxing and you didn't really you knew about
like the big pay-per-view fight, but you didn't really know
anything apart from that words. Now you know the big fighters,
you know people coming through all that sort of thing.
So it's like, it's way more of a like, it's way more of a talked
about sport and you do it with two of your mates.
Yeah, I do it with Kay McCourt and Kyle McGuigan, so.
You've had some of the biggest like guests on in boxing.
Joe it's it's it's crazy because like why does he know like the
boxers from from back here and they help do they help you so
much about to McKenna was her first guest had Gary Spike
O'Sullivan second and make a condom as a third.
And we just started growing bigger.
So like once. So then you just sled in the
like 2 DMS on Instagram. You're trying to get a few
people on Johnny Nelson ended up coming on from it and into just
using like the context. So like we make a con helps us
out a lot. Jamie Connon helps us out so
much. Now I've had Jamie on and like,
I don't know, see, when you're interviewing boxers, I feel like
they're way less media trained answers.
So like they're actually good, you know, like it's a good
conversation conversation. So and they're obviously trying
to promote themselves as well. And we I mean, we're only doing
it on zoom at the minute because of COVID.
Like, but and we're sort of like spread out in different places,
but we're like this, this is a dream.
You know, this is this is the dream factory.
It's literally is this is so north there in the studio, like
it is a great to all. It's it's a complete setup like.
That's a grand a month. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine.
It's a bit, it's a bit extravagant for.
Us, well, it's like 7, but we rounded up to 10.
It's fucking easy. It's just a nicer number to send
over across, you know? Yeah, so like we and we've had
like obviously we've had, we've got Eddie Hearn on recently and
he's my Eddie Hearns, my hero. Like and to have so because I've
watched so much interviews of them.
So like when you're sitting there like waiting on them to
come on on Zoom. Yeah, you see them?
Pop up. It's like.
Oh, I think you're feeling. Yeah, right.
Yeah. And like you don't think it's
real. Think like it's so like it's a
someone just put a YouTube up here like Banterness.
Yeah. And then he just started like
talking to us. And then I was like, right, We
were speaking. I was like, right.
The first thing we can't do is ask him about AJ Fury straight
away because we'll just lose his respect because he gets asked
that every hour of every day. So leave it to the end.
You'll just try and get him to enjoy it for a bit.
So then Joni's like sitting going here, I'll tell you this
one that's about like stories and that then that's when you're
like, yeah, he's like into it. So he was only going to give us
20 minutes, but he ended up staying for like 45.
Plus, that's how you know someone's enjoying something.
Like that's what I mean. And he followed us on Twitter
and all as well. Like so.
And he was deeming him for a good eight months, like stalking
him, and the only time he replied was when I posted his
book. Right, right, right.
Yeah. Yeah, he shared it on the story.
Yeah, yeah. Who'd you love to get?
McGregor would be the chain Todd.
Because here's the thing. Like.
You you have a potential fake coming up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Might be.
Might do a charity boxing match or something.
I don't know whether you know my box, another comedian might box,
you know, like an X Pro or something.
To be honest, like you're filming that shirt and also what
weight are you sitting at? I'm probably sitting, I'd say
have I would probably go into the heavyweight division because
I just think it would be easier for me.
But like I'm probably well, if I'm like I'm with 12 stone 3.
So what am I middle weight more super to?
Be honest bluffer me I don't even know anything about.
Boxing. All you have to say is about
boxing. It could go either way.
Yeah. And you just say like, you never
know on the night. Exactly.
And that makes you sound like an.
If you're out of fate, you just, you know, you just share this
rocker body. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rocker body Mick. Yeah.
McConnell's fates. Yeah.
Yeah, he does it So because. And he'll point me.
Yeah, and I, I love boxing, but I don't love it enough to stay
up for any fight. If it if it's on, if it's on
past 11:00. I stayed up for Mayweather.
Logan Paul. No, Yeah.
What about when? What about when Mayweather
knocks him out and then just hold he gets?
Real yes, I don't think he hits a couple, but like Logan Paul
like hits a couple of like do like we rabid punches after and
I'm thinking is that his arm like going into like a spasm
going. I think Logan Paul is trying to.
I don't think anyone's like throwing the fight.
I don't think it's like you're losing this round or will do
this because you that will look fake.
I think the whole thing is like Mayweather can control those
fights as he could win in the 1st.
You can win in the 1st 20 seconds if you want, I think.
But I think the whole thing is that he knows that if he
stretches these fights out a bit, there's more chance of
another fight. He's never going to lose.
But like, I don't think you choreograph it as much, but I do
think Mayweather thought he'd knocked him out doing this where
if he'd done. That BBC didn't look great
against Logan Paul to get the Jake Paul to fade him and his
completely spark him out yeah yeah, and like and because.
Of regenerate interest because people be thinking, oh.
Like because Jake Paul can actually like you can, you can
scrap a bit like for being a YouTube like he actually can
bang. That's a scary thing.
Like we're talking about this William McCord.
He is obviously like a talented boxer, like a talented someone
who's taken up boxing is talented at it, has a flair for
it and he's and so you can probably box better than anyone.
I know it's not a boxer, but then in a professional fight, he
looks like they look horrible. Any any punch, doesn't matter
what they're doing. They don't look good.
So like, I just think that's the only thing stopping me enjoying
these fights. It just doesn't look like a
boxing match. One time Logan Paul ran at
Mayweather. Did you see it?
Yeah, and he was. Just it was like, I'd say Curly,
he's like back in the day, just sleeping, doing 2 match, going
at it. Yeah, yeah.
And they were. Just like he was.
Swimming. Yeah, he wasn't even.
Punching. Yeah, Yeah.
And like, it was like it. Was a mad as it because like
when you're watching like. And doing training and he's just
doing the bag and he like he looks like proper punches.
So elegant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then it comes to the. Fate and it's just like does
like all the technique go at the.
Window. And because I mean the end of
the day, you could each spark me out in 5 seconds.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. See it the mirror but.
Yeah, it doesn't look. Just it doesn't look easy on the
eye when you're watching like Sean McComb, Mctrone, whatever.
Like you see like high goods, you know, like technically when
the phone punches and like you just compare that to that and
it's like you can see why they feel hard done by over the money
they're making. Yeah, yeah.
It's like. It's like basically like.
A movie star going and playing football and getting a deal at
United. Yeah, like there was a wee The
guy from Goal. The guy from.
Goal being like Santiago. Munoz.
Ever see his technique? It was the worst ever.
I want to see you in Santiago. Munoz been upfront for Toronto.
I'd be the dream. Yeah, I know.
It's great and getting all those guests.
On his class. Last thing I want to ask you
about is playing computer games online on twitch.
I don't know anything about that world.
I don't know what the games are used to play.
I don't know anything about it. But how much time do you spend
doing? Footballers love it, don't they?
It's, it's madness. Like I no joke.
Right, I've played like it's weird TMC online, like you meet
friends who you've never met before and like you're you'd be
say you'd be mates to them. So I mean, it's weird like, and
you've never seen them in real life.
And then like it brings. You to some places like I was
playing Warzone and I was playing with like one of my
mates that used to be at Liverpool with and ended up
Delhi. Ali joins the party.
See what I mean? And so I'm playing by chance
just because he's mates with him, right And.
You just meet him through that. And then he ended up playing
with him for like a week, right? And then like, like my mates
from back home or shit in Plymouth, like so Raheem start.
I play with Raheem Sterling on wars sometimes And like my mates
from back home were literally like, you know, like working
from home, but play with Raheem Sterling on Call of Duty at the
same time. It's not.
It's just like they're messaging me up.
They go. This is why do you want to grab
it? But the name job.
Yeah, sorry. I.
Forgot I forgot to. I got 1 up.
But you know what? I'm playing Grand Theft Auto at
the minute, right? And it's like role play, so
like. When you're playing.
Grand Theft Auto, like everyone you come up in the city is a
real person. So like you're going up.
So like you're going up to somebody, see someone in the
street in Grand Theft Auto and they get closer.
You can start speaking to them when you walk away.
They don't tear you as much. And you all have to be someone's
right role play Michael Jackson. So people will be like, So what
happened that kid? The Mark Toddy.
When he was 17, he's pretended to be Michael Jackson on GTA.
Where are they now? On the Grosvenor Rd.
I play, I play at all. It's.
It's some crack like and then to play war zone.
But like, honestly, I remember speaking that you know, Nico the
the watch guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking to me want he's want to
jump on war zone like, but he's obviously he's massive on on
YouTube. Like yeah, I don't know.
It's Twitch. I never knew what Twitch was.
Until. This time last year and like
honestly this, it's so it's getting so big now.
Do you think footballers lover? Because it's like an escape
almost. It's like, like you say a
bubble, you're talking about Liverpool being a bubble.
It's another bubble where like you're just focused on that.
You're not reading texts. And that's what I said.
Like I the amount of footballers that played is.
Mental like we play, I played in like an actual tournament, a war
zone tournament for footballers. Like so I was playing against
all these teams, my mates from home and like the players and
the other teams were like like some Mason Mount, Oxford Chamber
and Jayden Sancho. They were all playing in it like
and they're all best the in this amount.
He's he's unbelievable at it. But like, and you're just like,
they must obviously play it flat out.
Like how many hours a day are people like that playing
roughly? See, to be honest, it's so like
I'll say like the my girlfriend, I'd.
Be like, oh, I'm going to go on Call of Duty here and she'll be
like how long for an hour or something?
He's like an hour. Get 2 games, six hours sort of.
We play for like 6 hours to play easy for.
No, I would play probably two or three hours at a.
Time, but you could easy go couple of times a day.
Something yeah, in the morning or.
In the afternoon, early afternoon, then at night they go
on about 9:00 or something the the midnight maybe.
But like at that time, what's the Logan Paul Mayweather or
yeah, Mayweather fate. I was playing from probably 9 up
until I was actually streaming. I was streaming like a watch
long of the fate. So after so it was like 9.
They're like 6. So I was like how many or five?
So I was how many hours? Speaking of watch alongs, we're
going to do some. Stuff for the EUR, would you,
would you do a watch along here with us?
Yeah, Percent class. What, what match is he going to
do? This comes out a week after
we've done it. So, Dan?
Sometimes I get confused what we're going to do.
You might have already done one, put it that way, by the time
this comes out. Yeah, you might have.
I'd love to that that one watch long.
We've done the other. Day I was on doing in Croatia on
Sunday. Could you in Croatia?
On Sunday, OK class that will already have happened.
Hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah.
Hope you had a good. By the way, Harry Kane was on
flames on. Oh, what a game, I mean.
It's one of those ones that could have gone either way.
And I think the score line was was fair.
I think it was definitely fair. But it was good game.
Game of two halves and congratulations to the winners,
eh? Brawl Boxing Weekly is a weekly.
Comes out of Yeah week. Yeah, weekly.
So YouTube. Yeah, YouTube, Spotify, Apple.
So yeah, then we've got the merch.
Yeah, that's my face there before head.
Just made the Crest by bannage. Sorry.
We'll go to Turkey in a few years and just make it make a
trip. But I know, can I?
Bring my friends down to the earth and you can sign for.
Fan or Boche in San Diego Minions.
Ranchers for coming on appreciate it.
Thanks very much. Thank you.