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This is a great episode today. I'm delighted to say that we
made this episode happen and and shouted to Dan Fausty in Georgia
for from moving the studio into the limelight because my guest
today was doing a show on the limelight and we sometimes have
done this for we'll bring the studio to you to make that
easier because she was literally going on stage just after we
recorded the pod. Umm Michelle Wolf is my guest on
the TV me podcast this week. I can't believe it when I saw
Michelle Wolf was coming here. I started reaching out through
different ways to try and say and just one of those ones where
you ask and you're expecting like a no, like no response or a
plate no. But she was offered in it and we
couldn't believe her luck. Michelle Wolf is a huge name in
American comedy, not only as a performer but as a writer as
well. We talk in this episode about
her, her writing for some of the biggest TV shows in America and
some of the roasts. Do you see Michelle is behind a
lot of a lot of jokes for many people who don't do stand up and
want to have funny, funny roast. But she is just one of the
loveliest comics I've ever met and hilarious as well.
We had a great time doing this podcast.
Please enjoy this episode of the Tea with Me podcast with my
guest, Michelle Wolf. Oh, more of an eye.
So in the background there is going to be the noise of our
traffic lights when people go across What?
What do you think of that as a traffic like noise?
You know, it's like it's a little too soothing.
I almost think, you know, like, because I, I feel like the ones
in America, like almost everything American there is
very aggressive. Just gunshots.
Yeah, yeah. Cross now or die.
But they also now a lot of in America too.
Will those just be like walk now, walk now, walk now.
Yeah, for, I guess for blind people mostly, but.
They still don't need to be like that rude to them, you know
that's. No.
Yeah, like do it. You cross the street quick, you
only have a couple seconds. Hurry.
What, what do you think of First of all, it's so good that you're
in Belfast. So we're talking about before,
about American comedians coming over, international comedians,
and it happened in Dublin for so many years.
They come to Dublin. So we would have to go to Dublin
to see Someone Like You or any of the great acts that have been
over. But now people coming to
Belfast, it's great. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's
really fantastic. Like there are, well, I know
this is technically the UK so I don't want to like speak out of
turn, but just keep. It moving here.
In the the the whole country of Ireland, your thing is?
I. Don't want to?
Get. I also can't describe it and I'm
familiar, but I know what you. Mean yeah, the island, the whole
island, it's like it's like the size of Indiana, like one state,
you know, and there's, we're doing 10 different cities in
this tour and everything's like just a couple hours, if that
away from each other. And you couldn't do that in
Indiana, you know, like you, you could play like 2 cities maybe
there. And so like to get to be in
like, especially like away from America and like do a bunch of
different shows within two weeks.
It's just like, it's a cool experience.
You get to different cultures, different crowds.
Like, I mean, I know we both speak English, but like, there's
a lot of differences. There's big differences, like do
you think our accent is kind of mad, like in all the places
you've been? I mean, I, I'm really bad with
accents in general. Like when I watch television, if
there's any accent, I have to have the subtitles on.
Like I just, I'm like a old mom, right.
Yeah. And and I, I just, I don't have
the ear for it. I also can't speak other
languages very well, you know, So any accent I'm sort of like,
yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, I have noticed
it's different and like. Like it is a small place here,
but you go like there's a place you won't be doing unsure.
There's a place called Ballymena, which is like 20
minutes away from here. I wouldn't know what they were
saying. You know, we're like, we like
you would think somewhere this small would just have one
accent, right? But we have, we make up for we
have like a million of them. So many, like I can definitely
notice a difference between, you know, there was definitely a
difference between Cork and even Dublin.
I mean, Dublin is a totally different.
There's a difference between Cork and anywhere else, right?
Speaks. English Corks.
Math. Yeah.
They have a lovely accent though.
Yeah, when we when we went to Bally Cotton, which is like on
the. Coast outside, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And Bally Cronin or Cronin I
don't know. You'll only do on this tour.
It's it's got to be Bally. Yeah, yeah, Bally something.
It doesn't matter what it is. And yeah, it was just, I don't
know, it's just it's been absolutely beautiful.
And I'm, I'll say something a tiny bit controversial.
I love the food. Yeah, I absolutely.
Give me a meat pie. Give me a roast.
That will mean the world. I absolutely love it.
I I I could eat like this every single day.
I love it if you were just having like Subway, Burger King.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love your food.
I got AI, got a Italian BMT. But like, well, we, we just, we
love people. Like coming over here,
travelling over here. Is this the first time you've
been in Ireland? I've been to Dublin a bunch of
times. I did.
I think the first time I was ever there it was for the Ivy
Gardens, which? Is the festival.
The Paddy Power one I guess, but then I, this is going to sound
very name dropping and I'm not, but it's just what happened.
And then I opened for Chris Rock at the Three Arena in Dublin and
then like the next year I opened for Dave Chappelle and Jon
Stewart at the Three Arena. And then just last on in 2022 I
opened for Dave again at the Three Arena.
So I've not I've had very different experiences.
Well, well, like you say, it's like doing that though, when
it's like 1 getting get out date, you don't see a city, you
don't get the feel of the place. Like I experience that a little
bit like you just you have the same day over and over again.
Yeah. And you maybe see like a tiny
bit of it. Well, so I always go for a run
in the morning and. I'll show you, I'll show you.
Went for a run today around the lot.
I did, yeah. I saw him.
I wasn't like in the. Room.
Oh yeah. You know, I saw you.
With a snorkel. No, yeah, I ran along the river,
which was absolutely beautiful. Like I just, and I I could have
kept going. I was, it got to like a really
pretty part and I was like at my turn around point and I was
like, oh, come on. But yeah, it was really, it was
really cool. And in Dublin, like the, I think
the first time I was there with Chris, I went for a run in
Phoenix Park and I was like, well this, this is great.
And even just like walking to get to the run, you always see a
bit more of the city. So I mean, it's been like I ran
all around Limerick, I ran all around Kilkenny.
I didn't run in. No, I did do a run.
I ran in Cork. Yeah, it was great.
I also I ran in Cork and there was I was on the around the
river and I saw a bunch of missing persons vehicles like
searching the river. What do you meant missing
persons? What are the chances you're
like? Yeah, no, I was like, that's I
noticed you. I noticed I am are they were
searching for people Yeah, they were searching for somebody, but
they were so calm, you know, like they were just, you know, I
guess what can you do, you know, like, but it almost felt like
they were like waiting for me to go missing, right.
You know what's just? No place alive.
So I'd say like people don't really go that far.
Even if they're missing, yeah, they're probably close.
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I like, I like exercise when I go different places.
And when I was in Sydney, we were doing, we're comedians,
charity boxing done the last couple of years.
And I had a fight coming up. And then when I was in
Australia, I was like warm weather training camp.
Yeah. You know, So I got in touch with
this guy who just, I feel like would know people who do
exercise from there. Yeah, as a he'll know someone.
And he did. And it was a professional
Italian boxer in Sydney and he's like, I'm going to take you for
a session. I was like, brilliant.
And we did it right by Bondi Beach, but it was like 40°.
And it was great at the start, but then and there was like a
load of like young people watch. So it was like the area couldn't
be more public, right? So it's like you have beach and
then there's like a concrete bit and everybody was watching do
this. How I know like we're not like a
warm place. The sweat kept like bypassing my
eyebrows and just went directly into my eye.
And the first time it happened, I was like, oh, like, I'm good
to go here. And and the guy was like real
intense as you would be if you're a professional boxer.
But the sweat like like I very like, you can see, like I don't
mind you saying like my eyebrows aren't very strong.
Yeah, I mean, maybe you don't want like a a huge bushy
eyebrow. But mine stop halfway through.
You don't know if you can probably see, but like they kind
of stop halfway through. All right.
And that's a that's like a, like a clearing.
Yeah, it was just like a little. There's just a tiny river.
Yeah, just a wee bit gets through and, and, and and put a
bottlenecks as well. So then a lot will come once.
And I had that like I was supposed to do a 4045 minute
session with this guy and after like 6 minutes I was like I
can't do this like because of my.
I feel like you can't with boxing gloves on sand wipe your
eyes. No, I had I had to only filmed
it, so I will put it somewhere but I kept I would have to take
both gloves off. Yeah, and then I didn't bring a
tile, but I had AT shirt and I had to go over like wipe and
then it but it was the IT was it was.
Yeah. But the idea in my head of what
that would be like in a boxing session on Bondi Beach, just
different to the to the reality. Right.
And you'll be like, you know, you probably thought, like,
after today I'm gonna be Yeah. I mean, like, ready for the big
time. Yeah.
I also someone was like, let's go exercise on Bondi Beach.
I'd be like, you gotta take me to a place where people are
uglier. Yeah, I'm not gonna.
Ohh, I've got it. I can't be out there with all
those women. Have you been in Bondi Beach?
I know I honestly, I'm like scared of how Australians are
super hot, yeah, men and women. And I just like, I try to avoid
being in places with a lot of hot women because I'm funny and.
If you don't like hot people, welcome to Belfast.
I would, I would move. Yeah, I would definitely like
move here. Yeah, and.
We're like, we're very like, we don't have extreme weather, but
we are very like, like our feet, you know, we feel the weather on
our face. You know, that's sort of like a
lot of weathered people, and we're sad.
Yeah, you've got a lot of windblown.
Yeah, yeah. No ones like, no ones like glow.
You know that phrase like you're glowing?
I'd never heard that till I left here.
But yeah, I I, I love the travel, love the exercise when
I'm away. But like, yeah, sometimes the
reality of it's different to what?
Like in New York, I did some boxing because it was the same
charity fight that was coming up and I was on tour and we filmed
it just for documenting what I was doing it there.
And I watched it back and it was like in Brooklyn under like a
under like the subway or under like a train track.
And I thought this so cool. And I went through all the moves
and everything. And then I watched the back and
I was like, this isn't what I think it is.
I don't move like I think I do in my head.
And what, what part of America are you from?
I'm from Pennsylvania. Oh, real quick, I had the boxing
match go. Michelle, all I'll say is to
know. And I've retired.
Oh, right. Yeah, yeah.
So we've done it last two years. But like, it's about the
charity. We do it for the kids.
Yeah, but you know what? It's for like 6 months is all we
talked about in the podcast. Yeah.
And like, listeners started to like, really hate me because I
kind of got carried away and thought I was professional
boxer. But it was one of the coolest
things I've ever done. Yeah.
It was so good. We did it in the Ulster Hall
just around the corner, Yeah, which is like a historic venue
for boxing. And it was brilliant.
All comedians. And we did it for children's
cancer unit. And she get to like raise money
but do something selfishly. That's brilliant, right?
Yeah. So yeah, we loved it.
It was great. Did you actually hit somebody in
the face? Yeah, because every time I've
done boxing for exercise, anytime it's gotten to like, OK,
actually hit me, I'm like, I don't want to do that.
Yeah, the guy that I fought, who had, who had beat, I got the
decision. Or he's coming to your show
tonight, he felt. Sean Haggerty.
Oh yeah, Sean, we like I want you to get out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will be like, I heard Sean's
here and he's lost a bunch of matches.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sean's here. He's not a great boxer, but it
took. Me.
It took me 5 days to recover from that.
Next day I felt like it had been a bad boss.
It was horrific. Yeah.
Can you imagine if that was like your actual profession?
I hate that. Yeah, I hate that I've I've got
out at the right time. Yeah, I'm retired.
I don't know much of America bar like the main places.
Yeah. So I'm from, I'm from
Pennsylvania, but specifically I'm from Hershey, PA, which is
like in the middle of the state and it's where Hershey
chocolate. Yeah, I don't know how much you
get of Hershey chocolate over here.
Because I'm lactose intolerant but.
I it's also a shit chocolate. It's not.
Yeah. I mean, like I I did not like
chocolate because growing up I always had Hershey chocolate and
then I had Cadbury. Cadbury, OH.
Yeah, yeah. And I was like, this is what you
guys were talking about. People always say excellent.
People always say, like when American people come here, they
go real. You can taste real ingredients
that you guys make food with real things.
I was just, OK. So like Skittles in America,
like I can't remember the exact phrase they used, but it's
something like the the, the preservatives or food dyes or
whatever they put in are like it's not carcinogens, but it's
something poisonous. Crystal meth, yeah.
And so I haven't really been eating Skittles.
And then one of the women that's here with me, she bought
Skittles and I tried them. They're a different colour, like
slightly like ours are like neon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a slightly different,
more natural looking colour and they taste different.
And I was like, yeah, it's because they took out the dead
stuff. Yeah.
But we, we have like we're, we can't have anything.
We have sugar tax. Oh yeah, yeah, good you.
Got to pay way more for fizzy stuff and sweets because E
numbers was the thing. E numbers are banned, although,
yeah, they're not like doing numbers.
That's what's in like Skittles and all those sorts that make
you hyper, you know, your birthday party and stuff and you
carried away when you were a kid.
Like I got sent off my own play soccer for my 7th birthday and
my stepdad ex stepdad. Yeah, you won.
Sent me off. He sent me off out of full
tantrum. And that was a number.
That's because I was smarty. I was eating too many smarties
for the game. Yeah.
Well, I mean, if you tried to do
that, like in America, we tried to, you know, those super big
sodas, you can get the big golf. Yeah, we tried to like in New
York specifically, Bloomberg was the mayor at the time.
He was trying to, like, ban them.
And did they American mentality of like, when you try to take
something away from us, we're like, we're going to drink more
of it? And it's like, you don't need a
soda that big. Like no one needs 64 ounces.
I feel like a. Coke.
Feel like an American, stuff like that.
People just say the phrase First Amendment a lot, and I don't
know what that means, but people will say about anything.
Oh yeah, that's freedom of speech.
But you're also just like, yeah, that's not what's it wasn't a
big goal. Yeah, No, it was if it was if
the family running fathers were around like a lot of the stuff
now, they'd be like, well, not for this.
It's just. Yeah, the the food.
The food thing's weird, but it's Christian Pulisic from there
too. Football.
Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is.
I went to actually his dad's I, so his dad used to play, I guess
he was a professional football player.
I mean, but he played for this indoor, I mean, soccer team,
yeah, called the Harrisburg Heat.
Harrisburg is another town that's nearby.
And I used to watch him a lot. And then he used, he had a
soccer camp that I went to. It was at this place called
Lebanon Valley College. And I went to Christian
Pulisic's dad's soccer camp. And I still have the shirt.
It's like one of my favourite T-shirts.
This is like way before like he was professional.
Soccer player or anything that's the only other thing you.
Have but yeah, yeah, but he's, it was way before he was
professional. And it's just one of those
shirts that like, turned really soft, you know, and so I yeah, I
absolutely love it. And it's like, I've never met
him, but went to his dad's. That's great.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was a great camp too, because we, you know, you, you play
football in the morning and then you have this big lunch.
But it was in like a college cafeteria and university
cafeteria. And it was like, I mean, we, you
can have like soft serve on waffles and like, you know, like
just the stuff where you're like, this is what people are
eating when they go into school. You mentioned like American,
like high school cafeterias. I would love to like, witness a
fight in American cafeteria. You know, like from the movies.
Yeah, yeah, I'd love to awesome some, get some nerd the tray.
I'd be happy to be the nerd. I would just love to be
involved. Yeah, I you know.
All by the lockers and everything.
I feel like now there's so much devastating violence in schools
that they're like, I think everyone would be happy to see a
a fight in the cafeteria. They'd be like, yeah, let's get
back to this. Let's not take the guns away.
Let's throw food at each other. Yeah.
They need to get back to like wedgies have stopped, Yeah.
They need to come back like good old fashioned, just bullying
and, you know, like real fighting, you know, throwing an
egg salad. And you guys get to wear your
own your own clothes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.
You know, unless you go to like a a Catholic school, which not
even that many in America anymore, but like, yeah.
You gotta wear real skimpy clothes.
Yeah, you can wear it, but yeah, yeah, you could.
And then oddly enough, you probably couldn't wear a
Catholic school skirt in in the non Catholic High School.
But yeah, no, you get to wear whatever you want, which is also
kind of, it's kind of shitty to do that to kids because then
it's like you have to decide what to wear every.
Day, you know, could drip. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to, you know, what do they say?
You got to eat? You got to be 8.
I don't know. You've got to be it like you're
still thinking. No, like you like when it's like
I'm I sound so lame, right? Now so you say someone but like.
Yeah, No, no, no. Like like like when you have a
good outfit on, it's like she ate it.
She ate it. It sounds bad.
Yeah, no, it's really bad but also I sound so lame trying to
explain it. I'm just like a almost 40 year
old woman trying to explain a young person slang.
I would love to have been in American high school.
Oh yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm not gonna
lie, it was great. Yeah, but I also was a nerd.
Like I didn't go to parties. Or anything like that.
I was just like, I played sports.
Yeah. And you know, it was just like
was. There anyone in your class
called Chad? We had we, I did have a chat,
but he was kind of a loser. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was. Yeah, you know what I'm obsessed
with? And I don't know.
Here's what my tech talk algorithm throws up for me.
Like 1990s soccer compilations and American high school
reunions. So it goes from like the
yearbook picture to the reveal of the person now.
Yeah. I am obsessed.
I love it. I don't feel like we age very
well in America at all. You get, so here's what you do.
You get so into it, right, Because it's always the reverse.
You'll see like a beautiful, beautiful guy, you know, like
the quarterback type guy. And then you see him now and he
turns around to the camera and you're like, ah, no, yeah,
you're like, And then, and then it's the complete opposite, you
know, you'll see, You'll see like a girl who's not good
looking. Then you see her now.
You like glow up. Yeah, she had it.
Yeah. I think we're doing it right.
Yeah, comment that in all those videos now, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should check to make sure
I'm not doing it completely wrong, have you?
Ever been to high school reunion?
You know, I did. I went to what year was it?
I guess it must have been my 15th high school reunion.
Or no, it was my must have been my 10th high school reunion.
I was in like 10 years since I thought you meant you'd been to
ten of these. I was like, I don't even.
Know yeah, no, I just love going back to high school.
I love to show everybody look where I am now.
I think it was, yeah, it must have been my 10th, yeah, the
10th anniversary. And I, yeah, it was, I mean, I
had, I was kind of in this. I was I was doing comedy full
time, so. Yeah, that's what I was gonna
ask because it's such a mad job to show up to the reunion.
Yeah, yeah. Because I also wasn't like, I
mean, I was funny in high school, you know, like, and my
group of friends, we were like fun and silly.
Yeah, we were, we had this, I had this group of girlfriends in
high school and we were all like, like there was a group of
like hot kind of bad girls. And then we were like the group
of like, we were like the cute, you know, someone was like class
presidents. I was like captain of the track
team. We all had like, activities and
stuff. And we were a little like, look
at us. Where me and the guys I was
friends with were also like that.
Yeah, you guys look at us the way we spoke and yeah.
And so like I, you know, but I was also very like studious and
very, you know, and I, so I think I think a lot of people I
knew growing up were very surprised that I went into
comedy. And a lot of people were like,
you're going into comedy. Like, what is like, how do you
even do that? So I think by the time we had
the high school reunion, I think I was, I must have been working
at Late night with Seth at that point.
So like, I had like a real comedy job, which, yeah, like
people like have so many questions and all that stuff.
And I was very vague and you know you don't want to.
Well, the, the people that like that would have bullied you in,
in, in school have though, have you ever had it where like one
of those people comes to a show or, you know, drops you at the
end, like you're killing it and that kind of thing.
Not to be like I never really got bullied, but there was there
was a a girl who like she's like very unhappy that I'm.
Doing oh, sorry, you that's right.
You said you were a nerd. I took that in my head.
As you said, you got bullied, so that probably comes out of
nowhere when I'm like, you got bullied, No.
Because most you think nerds, you know, would it was it was a
very bizarre. We were like on a very like thin
line of like not getting. Well, if you're a captain of the
track team, probably just outran.
Yeah, you know, Yeah. It was like a what, you're
gonna, you're gonna bully me? I'm very athletic.
I used to also take weightlifting class instead of
gym class and like I would like lift more than some of the guys
and the the coach of the class of the teacher, whatever he
would make sure to point out to all the guys when I was lifting
more than them, he was like, look at her, she just lifted
more than you. And I was just like, don't do
that. Yeah, you know, like, come on,
do you know I'm going to tell you the story?
Podcast. We met before.
I wouldn't expect you to know. Admiral French Festival.
Oh wow. I walked past you and went that
was a great set and you said thanks.
I was, you know. Surprised you remember?
I'm I, now that you mention it, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it was in a corridor, if that helps.
It was dark and I Yeah, it's a great set, yeah.
I know no, now I now it rings the bell for.
I think, I think you were in town at the Fringe and you were
open. You jumped on a show and opened
for somebody. Louis, I was opening.
In the Playhouse, Yeah. Yeah.
So like that was great. It was so fun.
So like we we had been on AI think we did like another city
or two together. But he was going on to do this
whole European Tour and I couldn't, he had asked me to do
the whole tour, but I was like, well, I got, you know,
Edinburgh. So I just did the that show with
him. But I'm actually, I think I
might do Edinburgh again, Yeah. Yeah, this year.
This year. I think, I think I'm going to do
a bit of it. I like to, I like to just people
not know if I'm at Adam or not, I'll just be there for like a
little bit like the, the year just passed.
I did two nights in Edinburgh. I did one Saturday and then the
next week I did just a Sunday. And it was great because you see
your friends who've been there all months and they're like dead
behind the eyes. Yeah, soulless, missing teeth,
all that kind of stuff. Heroin and really?
Forget why they're doing this at all.
You just. Breeze in for one day and it's
great because you're full of enthusiasm.
Yeah, actually flew home the same night that my show was.
Oh yeah. Did a 7:00 PM show, got like a
10/20 flight home. It's brilliant.
But the fringe is. Have you done a full run for?
So the first time I did it, I did a full run and, you know, I
had a good time. But it was one of those things
where everyone had told me so many horror stories and I, you
know, it was until I got back on the plane home.
Then I was like, I think I actually had a good time, you
know, like it was, but I wasn't, I wasn't ready to admit that the
whole time because I didn't want to, like, jinx myself or
something. But this time, yeah, I just
think it would be fun to do again because obviously I'm a
very different spot in my career.
But like, yeah, I just want to see, you know, like, I just want
to try again, you know, like, just like.
I mean, it's fun, and if you have a show, that show by the
end of it is so much better. Well, and also with a baby like
to be in one place where you can go, you can do like 28 shows
like in a month and not have to move every day.
I'm like, that's pretty perfect. Yeah, because I think that's
what I'll do if I do maybe a couple of weeks this year, we'll
we'll bring the kids and try and stay somewhere just out of the
city. Yeah, that's what I'm kind of
thinking. I I'm also telling other people
this because I want, I want friends there, you know?
Yeah, I am. I I really want to sneak my
oldest son in to watch me, like just do a little bit of a set.
Yeah, he's never seen obviously, like me do stand up.
Yeah, he's 4 and I don't think he'd sit there for the R and be
like, you know, sadly, but like it was a great callback.
But I think I'd love to just because he he knows what it is
and he's seen like clips because I show him clips every day.
But but I just would love him to like be there just to crane his
head out as part of it. That'd be really cool.
I mean, it's trying to be such a trip to like see your parent on
stage and like like you're like, I don't know, like I don't even,
I mean, I don't come from like a entertainment family or
anything. So I can't imagine like what
it's like to see your parent like and people reacting to
them. Yeah, well, my dad was a
motorbike racer. My dad's on the podcast and
stuff and he, he was a motorbike racer like locally.
And when I go to like I haven't been in years and neither really
is he. If we go to like a road racing
event, he's like the font. Oh yeah, yeah.
Wow. But I obviously never really saw
him race. Yeah, because he stopped when I
was when I was really young. But but that, that it's weird,
like people you know, yeah, pop off for him and stuff.
That's kind of nice, yeah. Is it cool to see?
It's cool to see and my dad and we talked about in the pod, my
dad's like 74 really bad in people's names.
He's got memory issues, so it's really fun to see my dad
sometimes just attempt people's name.
I always tell him just say like hello.
Yeah, you don't need it because it's somebody vaguely have met
like me saying to you in Edinburgh.
My dad would remember that and then try and remember this
person's name that he met once. And I'm like, but he'll make he
does this thing where he like will just do a noise that he
tricks you into thinking he might have said your name right.
But I always tell him just say hello.
But my dad just like does this like murmur of an and like no
one's ever not looked at me beside him and going.
You should also I mean, you got a wing man for him in that
situation and be like hi, I'm Shane, you know, like and and
then so that they have to say their name to you.
That's what I tell people because I I had a baby and then
my memory just died. Baby brain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I and they say it's your memory is supposed to
come back, but mine hasn't, so I don't know it either.
That's either a lie or I'm broken, which could be true, but
the baby, the. Baby's getting to go, getting to
go everywhere. Yeah, the baby's everywhere.
And she, it really freaks her out.
The first time I did like a guest hosting week on The Daily
Show and she was like, this is like last November.
So she was, I don't know, like 10 months old or something.
And she saw me on ATV screen and she like just started to cry.
She was like, I don't understand what's going on.
Like why is she there and not? But she's not there.
She's there but she's not there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But now she's like seen me a couple times, like seen videos
and stuff and she's like. Yeah, yeah.
Hey. Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, it's. Has it changed too much as a
comic? Yeah, it really has.
It's also I do a little bit of this in my set, but I think the
biggest mental change is that I really like and I'm very
grateful to be on stage now. Like I've always been grateful
to be on stage, but like in a very different way now where I'm
like, I'm, it's just nice to be able to like be me, you know,
like she can't, I can't like, but she's with someone else.
Someone else is helping and taking care of her.
And like I, I don't have that responsibility.
So I just get to be me and do jokes.
And it's also made me a bit more fearless on stage where it's
like, I don't care. I'm like, just legitimately
happy to be here. Like it don't like it, you know,
So it's, it's, it's been really good.
And it's also, I mean, it's like a constant stream of material,
so. Yeah, I think it really helped
me. I never, I understood that
phrase, people saying like, you know, like you, you, you, you
realise like who you are or you, you, you know yourself better
and that kind of thing. And I think it's that translated
to me like on and off stage. Like I think I'm way more
comfortable just like being me on stage.
Yeah. Being like a little bit weirder
and trying different things. And beforehand, that was maybe
trying to be the the sort of comedian that like broadcasters
would like or commissioners on television and that kind of
thing. Whereas now I'm very much like
wanting to take risks and act and talk about things never
talked about before and all that kind of stuff.
So that coincided with the exact time we had kids.
So I don't think that's a coincidence.
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you probably
feel and even seen the response that you're like, because I feel
like in stand up, the more authentic you are to yourself
and the more you develop your own point of view, the like the
better your stand up gets because it's even like there's
only so many premises, right? Like a lot of us have a lot of
we're talking about the same things, but like you having a
unique point of view on it and like authentically, like you're
going to find people that are like, that's what I think, you
know, And that's I think that's yeah, I mean, all of of us are
trying to like, especially early on, trying to please different
people and whatever. And then when you've really
like. And almost like maybe at the
very start, like almost be without ripping off material
trying to be another act that you like or you.
Watch emulate them, right. Like, I mean, even like, you
know, Chappelle talks about it where he, you know, used to like
see Tony Woods perform and he would kind of like try to do
like a little bit of what he was doing.
It's like you need an example, you know, and then and then you
kind of make it into your own. But yeah, I really do think.
It should be for a lot of people.
They act, they mimic almost at the start.
The way they dress and talk and stuff is someone they're very
close to. And mine was difficult because
mine was Cedric the entertainer. But.
We cut to like old photos of you like just like drowning in a
huge suit a. Big Red.
Yeah, way past the knuckle. I know what I'm wearing from a
next door. Yeah, I would love to do that.
Just like a real throwback suit and never address it.
Yeah, never just walk out in that like just.
Too many layers too. Too many shoulders like the just
be real big shoulders and just. Now you live in your base a lot
of time, Barcelona and the Barcelona for the first time in
December. Oh, really?
Yeah. Are you playing?
The clubhouse. Great.
I love the clubhouse. It's like, first of all, I, I
went to Barcelona and then I, I didn't realise there was an
English comedy scene there. Yeah.
And then I wanted to do stand up.
So I just googled like English comedy Barcelona and it led me
to the clubhouse and it was great.
And then at that point they were still in this like they were
actually like in the bottom of like an Irish bar.
But like now they have their own space.
And it's like, it's like you couldn't use like you fit like
70 people in there. And it's like, it's where I
developed most of my material now.
And it's been absolutely amazing because the crowds there too are
like, you know, you'll have some people like some, some Catalans,
some Spanish people, some like, you know, you always get like a
like a weird mix of like people from Denmark and you know, like,
I don't know, so many other places.
There's a lot more countries. I just can't think.
Of it, you know, with the baby room thing, you were struggling.
I went to jump in with another place and couldn't give
anything. I was like, yeah, there
definitely is Denmark. Denmark definitely.
Like I'm sure of that. And we're like countries,
countries, countries. But I I'm doing it in the South.
I've never gigged there. I don't even think I've been.
I've been so many places in Spain, but never Barcelona.
Yeah. Why?
What does it you like?
What Barcelona is kept? There was just a guy there.
There was a guy there. And so I went and I, you know,
you know, just stayed with him so but.
You love the city. I do love the city.
I love the city. It's like it's coming from New
York. Barcelona is like, not a city,
right? It's a city, but it's not a
city. It just feels so much more
relaxed and like, yeah, I mean, just the pace of life in Europe
is different anyway, But like, it's a super walkable.
The weather's amazing, like the whole year.
Yeah. And yeah, I mean, like, and then
the fact on top of that that I could do as much comedy as I
wanted to has just been really great.
Unlike obviously, if you're, you know, if you're in New York or,
or a big city in America, you're going to get people coming up to
you and wanting to say hello and talk about special or a joke
that they've seen. What, what kind of reaction do
you get on a daily basis when you're when you're in Barcelona?
Like I'll have like one or two people be like, oh, I love your
comedy. You're like, oh, and then
there's some people that are like, you're the person from
Instagram and I'm like, I don't know, am I, you know, But yeah,
I mean, it's like it's it's kind of steadily like increasing.
I'm also like pretty unique looking, especially in in
Barcelona. Like there's not a lot of people
that are have curly red hair there also.
I'm so sorry. My hair is so wet.
I had. You said that at the start and
it's changed throughout. Yeah, I mean, it's going to keep
drying. I was like really banking on it
being totally dry for when the show starts later.
But we're. The opposite problem, you have a
distinctive. You have like you're saying you
have a distinctive look. I'm the opposite.
I look like everybody in the world.
Yeah, if I had, if I had to describe you, I'd just be like,
man, Brownish. You say, mom, the amount of
people who just send me pictures of Ellen on a daily basis is the
worst on Glenn. Lesbian.
Glenn Close. I love an Ellen when I get some
pictures. You have some similar features
to Glenn Close. Yeah.
Not in like you look like a woman way, just you could be her
son. Yeah.
Yeah, I get, oh, I just have this face feel where like
people, I I look a bit like so many people and like have a bit
of my show at the minute of you couldn't guess where I'm from.
Like I could be from so many places just with like my face.
And even if you went to like, when you're in America, even
with your accent, I'm sure there's so many people that are
like, where's that accent? Yeah, exactly.
But the the thing with like Ellen and stuff, I try like
couple weeks ago you are trying new things.
I've, I've always been a quick guy for the last best part of 10
years, trademark style. God forbid, God forbid I try
something different. I went to my Barber in Hollywood
and from, but 10 minutes were here and I said, listen, I
won't, we're losing the quiff. And he couldn't believe it.
And so I, I, I got my hair cut a little bit shorter and I sort of
gave, he sort of gave me like a fringe, like a brushed it down.
I, we put up a podcast clip with me with that hair and someone
wrote and it's like the most liked comment on anything I've
ever done. Terrible lesbian mode activated
because my hair was like this. You you should you should have
on like, were you the actually were you the person at Ellen who
was mean the whole time? I get.
Yeah, I get. I just get so many.
Like I just have a very generic face.
Well, you know, I get because of the red hair.
I get Carrot Top, right? Yeah.
And I'm like, I'm like, we look nothing alike.
Like it's not even his hair is crazy.
Like you, I would never think you were Carrot Top, right?
Are you related? Yeah, yeah, people are always
like, oh look, Carrot Top's not ageing well and I'm like, I
guys. No, he he's he's the more
extreme 1. Like that's what that's, yeah.
Like, I'm like, I'm not on steroids, you know?
Here's a. Here's a.
But I'm not opposed to being on stairwell either, you know?
It just seems like a lot of admin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, I don't know, it seems
easier not to be on stairwell. He's a very, he's a very, he's a
very big face. Yeah, he's got a big face.
He's. Got but here is axe green and
like. A a super wide yeah grin.
And you know, I've actually, I've heard people say that, you
know, because most people will like kind of shit on prop
comics, but I've heard, I've never heard a person say his act
is bad, right? Everyone's like, you actually
got to see Carrot. Top right.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, call me Carrot Top.
That must be fun for him because yeah, the jet, the compliment is
like, you're actually, you're good.
Right, yeah, I was expecting this to be kind of shitty, and
it wasn't. Have you met?
You've never met Carrot. Top.
I've never met him. Who's been it?
Because you've done so many, like high profile shows, like
all the talk shows and everything.
Who's been the person you've seen in an audience or met
backstage that's really thrown you?
As in like that person's in or you see them at the front row of
a gig or whatever. Well, so when I was working at
late night, Seth, we had on as a guest one night was Carol
Burnett and she's. Tiger King.
Oh no. No, the lady from Tiger King
Carol Bask. Carol Burnett is a legendary
comedian from the 70s who had a Carol Burnett show and she also
then opened up a tiger compound and killed her husband maybe.
Allegedly. Well that's weird because I get
them confused because when I watched that documentary I was
like she should have stuck to the stand up.
Yeah, but she's, I mean, like I she has this sketch show on that
was like absolutely like no one was doing.
Like she was the only woman to do it.
Like it was really amazing. And like, I was like, I, I
wanted to meet her, but I, I couldn't, you know, yeah, yeah.
And then the other person that like, and I've seen her a couple
Times Now, like I know her, but every time I get kind of like,
it's Erykah Badu because she's just, yeah, there we go.
Also owns tigers. No, I can't.
Every time I see her, I get like, I just get, she's like the
ultimate woman. She has this like ethereal like.
She's like a queen, kind of, isn't she?
Yeah, like she's like, she's like this super like she just
owns her own body so much. And she has like a very like
distinct style and like, and it's all completely her, right.
Like if anyone else wore it, you'd be like, what are you
doing? And when she wears it, you're
like, that looks amazing. Like she's just like when when
like men, when they like they feel like emasculated, you know,
like I feel that way as like the female version of that when I
see her, like where I'm just like, I'm not a woman.
You're a woman, you know, like it's just, it's she's and it's
like, it's even worse because like I, I know her.
I've spent time with her and like, I still like every time I
see her, I feel like I'm like, hi, hi, how are you?
It's so you're so cool. And when you, you know, when you
do such, you know, high profile shows and, and, and all that
kind of thing, the the attention that comes from that people
coming up to you, you love this, love that.
And I, I feel like here, like here as in like Ireland and UK
and stuff, the positive and negative isn't while either way.
Yeah, but it seemed like from the outside in the fields, like
in America, both of them. And I could be totally wrong.
Both those things are way more extreme.
So the people who are like really into you doing something
or like so enthusiastic and so into it.
And then the opposite of like if people hate something like that,
that that's like scary. Yeah.
Like here it'll just be like a comment being like sweet quiff,
you wanker, you know, but like, I'm not not direct quote, but
but but here just seems a bit more like that, you know, both
are just almost like fun. Whereas America, it seems like
especially like if if if you're making political jokes or
anything like that. Yeah, he's a bit.
Well, it's like, you know, I did the White House Correspondents
dinner and people got like, really angry at that and like
it, you know, I mean, like, really mad, like.
In the room. In the in the room, they got
like very like, you know, and it's like, yeah, making fun of
you. Like you deserve to be made fun
of. All sorts of roast.
That's what we're doing here. And I really just don't think
they expected a woman to go in, you know, because like, even
right before I started, I was doing like this sound check.
And the woman who was organising at all, she was like, what's
your gown look like? Because it's very dressy.
It's black tie, right? And I go, I'm I'm actually
wearing a suit and she goes me too.
I'm wearing pants, you know, my little stick it to the man.
And I was like, Oh my God, you have no idea what's coming.
I wrote really mean things. And did you, did you know as you
were performing that that backlash would come?
Like, could you feel it in the room?
Would you like? You know, I knew they were going
to like I knew I was doing like I knew what I was doing.
I just the joke they decided to get the most mad at.
I was like, that's like the nice one of the nicest jokes in the
whole set. Like, but I mean, you know, it's
obvious that they were just trying to like make something
else the story. So it's like, because, you know,
like, I called them out for, like, everyone's profiting off
of Trump. Like, you love him or hate him,
you're putting him on and you're all profiting because he makes
you a lot of money. Yeah.
And. It's so bad if if you're in the
audience, then the camera's on you at that joke, you know?
It's so uncomfortable. Yeah, they were like, I mean, I
literally saw people like some people like were laughing and
then other people at their tables be like stop, you know?
But I, I knew the room was going to get quiet, right?
Like I knew it was going to like tense up, but then, yeah, then
like just general public people got like so angry, like even to
the point where still today they'd be like, oh, aren't you
like the, you know, the bitch from the correspondents dinner?
And I'm like, yeah, I. Like when that when the show
itself was over, were things cordial?
Was it like, you know? There was so it was like, it was
like a very, like, there was like a heaviness, you know,
like, and like I was very aware of what.
Did you feel that heaviness was all on you or everyone?
I felt like everyone was kind of like, right, They were like all
mad at me. And then like Sarah Huckabee
Sanders, the press secretary who was there instead of Trump.
And then it like, you know, we're leaving and I just go
goodnight, you know, like in that very like bitchy woman way
where it's like take care, you know, and.
That's actually just the way I say goodbye.
So now I realise that's a bit you.
One way I say goodbye. Well, as a lesbian, you should
know these things. But yeah, so like I yeah, but
there is like there, I find that people, there are like a lot of
people in America, they, they don't really know the right way
to compliment you. Or it's like, especially as like
a woman, I find like a lot of men come up to me and they're
like, my wife loves you. And it's like, dude, you could
just say you like me or not. Like I I'm not gonna, if I feel
like men feel like they have to be like my wife.
By the way, I'm married. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And. I'm like.
Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm like, what did you
think was gonna happen? You were gonna be like, I like
you and I was gonna be like, well, now we have to have sex
and you'd be like, no, but I have a wife.
I'm so sorry. You know, like.
And did you like was it, I guess Twitter would have been the app
then where like you do you see the reaction?
Yeah, it was it was Twitter and Instagram and like there was
like, I mean, I think I went up and followers by like a couple
100,000 you know, that night and I and then yeah, a lot of
reactions on Twitter, a lot of reactions on Instagram and I.
We we did a roast for my friend who's a comic.
It was just all local comedians and it's first time we've all
done something like that. And I was really, really excited
for it. But the nerves are totally
different to any stand up nerves I've had before.
It's it's, it's, it's an edgy nerves and it's AI.
Don't know. There was just like everyone
that's sort of 10 minutes before.
I'm a just where I go on stage. I want to chat, you know, I like
to yeah, talk and be relaxed. And you know, I can't.
I don't understand when you see people are like, I just want to
piece. Yeah, I don't get that.
Everyone was pacing 10 minutes before.
Everyone just went very quiet. Yeah.
And like it was just, it was small talk and it was really
awkward. Ro self was great, but a bit
like the boxing. I'd never do it again, I don't
think. Yeah, I loved it.
I loved it. And for that reason, I was like,
I've had a good experience doing this, right.
I won't do it again. Yeah.
Do you think the tension was coming from, like, being worried
people are going to get offended at your jokes or the fact that
it was like, because I get, I think the most nervous I get on
stage is when there's comedians I know and like, you know,
either on the same show or in the audience.
And I feel like that's in a row situations like, obviously you
want to like, have great jokes, but not like, yeah, you know,
hurt a friend. Yeah, I think it was, it was
both. It was like, I'm going to go up
and I know what I've written. I've got to go up and say this,
but you and I don't know if you're prepared for that or are
we all on the same level? Because we, we had a WhatsApp
group for it and it was set at start by the admin.
Like, look, is there anything totally off limits here, right?
Especially stuff around kids or or family.
If, if most of us were like, everything's on the table, but a
couple of people had to think whether they, you know, they had
day jobs. Maybe it's something to do with
that, right? That's no problem.
But it, it was just that feeling of like, I hope we're all on the
same page here and that. And then also it was kind of
like I started getting nervous that the audience would get
offended, kind of like what you're saying of maybe the
people even in the room aren't that offended, but it's not
being told like, you should be offended at this, you know?
Yeah, Yeah. So there was definitely like I
was on 1st. So there was like a bit of a
when the audience were on side, it was great.
But at the start, they just didn't know because they they
know we were comedians together, but they don't know.
Hey, I'm best friends with a lot of these people.
Yeah. Or at the very least we know
each other well. Yeah.
Yeah, but that's like, that's when, I mean, one of the reasons
the correspondence dinner isn't actually a good roast is because
roast, at the heart of it, you're supposed to be roasting
people you like, you know, like you're supposed to be doing
with, like it's mean, but you're doing it with a certain, like,
joy because it's just like us as comedians and we make fun of
each other all the time. Like, you go after each other
constantly and it's when it's your friend, it's good.
But like, it's the correspondents dinner.
It's like you versus the government.
Yeah. You know, like, and the powers
that be. And so like, you can either be
like really nice or you can be like, well, this is my
opportunity to say you guys suck.
Yeah. Which I don't know, maybe you
love the government, but oh, here.
No, I mean my. Oh, here just two starters.
Here, Yeah, yeah. Complex thing here.
Yeah, I know. I tried to learn a little bit
about they. Weren't here for years.
The what? They're just chilling for years.
Yeah, yeah, they weren't there. The government, yeah.
No, they're just. I'm not making that up.
They were just, they're just not.
They were like getting paid and stuff, but they were just
chilling at home. Yeah.
And I think this was just after COVID, so it wasn't even like
they're working from home, right?
They're just like playing PlayStation stuff.
Yeah, they're just like there's not it.
Seems like things are fine, yeah?
But we have, we have like we have obviously like quite tribal
politics here. Yeah.
So it's a whole different thing. Yeah.
So you so you going up against the government, you can't really
do because they're so polar up. You can go up against this side
and that side, Yeah. But everyone's united in taking
the whole institution is a bit shit.
Yeah. But it's very like the bite, you
know? You know, in America, you know,
there's just the president, whereas here the two major
parties from the Catholic and Protestant side nominate the
office of First Minister. So it's like they're both.
There, so you both you, you, there's two.
Kind of the 1st and deputy first minister, so they kind of share
the title. So they're kind of like.
So everyone has like each side kind of has their own guy.
Yeah, exactly. But I, I don't like that used to
be the thing about comedy here, like that's all that it was,
because it was, it just dominated everything in society.
Here it was so much news and but now we're kind of moving.
So comedy is is a lot different here.
That's why comedians from here couldn't really have gone
anywhere else to do gigs because there was that much happening
here and the audience wanted to hear about that, right?
So they would comedians here in the 80s and 90s would would be
going to go like we'll be doing a show tonight and there might
have been a bomb in Belfast on the same day.
So they would do their show about that and it's so
impressive because they were all turning material over same day,
same week. But that kind of was to the
detriment of and and stand up wasn't what it is now where the
the opportunities weren't there to go, go away and do it.
So it's a, it's funny because like you, you go do shows in
America or somewhere and people from home will will come and
then one guy will always text you after and be like, could
have done with a bit more of that Belfast stuff.
You know, why didn't you talk about that?
And I'm like. Because I'm in Massachusetts.
Only you would get it. I made a joke there's with a
shopping centre called the Castle Court Shopping Centre.
A guy at the show when somewhere in the West Coast, maybe San
Francisco, was like, I thought to be more of the local stuff.
Well there, I mean we're not local anymore.
Like that's not local. And I said I'm hardly going to
do stuff with the Classic Court shopping centre.
And the guy went missed opportunity.
I was like, it's it's, it's not, it's not a missed opportunity.
Did you? Was there like a in that time,
we were like, comedians have like the freedom to talk about
whatever they wanted. Or they would have got up.
And I've been lucky enough to have some of these comedians on
the podcast and people I grew up watching and asking about this
kind of thing. They, they were saying the
things that journalists and, and politicians weren't like, they
were, it was, it was fearless and they were, they were
risking, like they were risking their lives and they were making
jokes about paramilitary organisations and, and criminal
figures. And they, they and they somehow
these people that they were making jokes are like, like,
kind of like, not that they liked it, but there was a sense
of OK, like, you know, they appreciate the balls of it.
So. So yeah, they were.
Interesting. That would have been really,
really. I mean, that's like, that's like
comedy edits like, yeah, you know, like where you're like, Oh
yeah, you're like the. That's what when it's at its
best, it's like, you know, like you're.
Yeah, it was stuff that was happening on the day.
Yeah, by default, there would have been people that they were
talking about in the audience or their family or whatever.
And they. Yeah.
They would just do it. Wow.
I wouldn't do it in a million years.
I mean, it's if you're probably terrifying, yeah.
I mean, like I, it was, you know, for me it's like, it's
easy to go up against like the, I mean the government and the
media because it's like, I don't know, it's other than like some
like, you know, words on the Internet or whatever.
There's like, there's no real risk, you know, Like, that's not
like people. Are you guys, are you guys are
modelled there? Like, no, I mean, like there is,
there's don't, there's a tonne of political tension and like
people will, everyone wants you to be on one side or the other.
And like, you know, like, I mean, I come from the, you know,
I think, I think our entire government is bullshit.
You know, like the right, the left.
It's like, as I was like Veep is one of my favourite shows ever
because I love that she played a Democrat and they showed how
like Democratic politicians are also just bullshitting you too,
you know? So it's like I, you know, but
we, there's also, you know, America's just, there's so much
tension right there. We're so mad at each other and
ourselves. And I don't know, I mean, we'll
see what happens in a couple weeks.
But yeah, I mean, whatever, there's the election's going to
happen in America and people aren't going to be like, all
right, well, I guess we've all decided, you know, like, there's
not going to be like some peaceful, you know, like the
majority, majority wins. And this is just how democracy
works. Like it's not going to.
Do you see like the more that that is that part of the like
part of the reason why you would want to be in Europe more and
and you'd want to just, or have you always kind of felt like
that if you always wanted to explore a place?
Well, I mean, I think there's, there's always been like a
certain romanticism about Europe for me, but I do think like it's
don't give me, I love to go back and gig in America, You know, I,
I, I, I really appreciate the audience there.
And like, it's also, you know, it's my home, right?
But I, I think there's a lot more.
I want to be like a, a comedian of the world, you know, like,
and I, I think like Europe is so interesting because it's, it's a
smaller place with so many different, you know, countries
and cultures and just a tonne of opportunities.
And it the, I think like the more I mean, you know, this, the
more people you meet, they're like even like it's not even
that like some places aren't even that different, but like
just knowing that like, oh, they make their you know, whatever
with I'm trying to think of a food, but I can't like, you
know, no. No, no, we can definitely think
of 1 croissant, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh, they, they have a, they have a croissant and the
other people have like a, a Danish or, you know, like,
whatever. It has to be Danish.
You've come back to Denmark twice.
You. Had to go back to Denmark.
I have to. I know Denmark exists.
There's countries in Europe and there's Denmark.
The Danish team with me listeners fucking buzzing.
They love it. Soon to be the biggest biggest
community in Denmark. Yeah, I like Denmark, but I have
an issue with the Oslo was the Tour show this year.
We had the Council. Wait, as it was.
The No Milan. The neither of those places are
in Denmark. Oh, but no, I'm just saying I
have an issue with Scandinavia. Oh, thank you very much.
I'll take an apology from everyone in this room.
Thank you. I said Denmark, OK, but yeah,
Oslo and Milan, no. I, I mean, I just, I know that
those aren't in Denmark, my beloved Denmark.
I know those aren't part of it. No, yeah.
I, I, I, I think it's making me a better comedian to be kind of
like outside because I do think we get a little bit as big as
America is. I think we get like a little
insular with like our ideas and politics, obviously.
And then, you know, you like, you come out, you, you see
different places, you perform different places and it just
expands your point of view. And I just, yeah, I think I, I,
I really like the different pacing too.
And I don't know, it's been, yeah, it's been a really, it's
been a really great experience for me.
Have you ever done a show on Milan?
No, but I heard that, yeah. You know what I mean?
Where the the good? Thing is, now I won't ever.
When they cancel that, the good thing is the ticket holders were
OK about it because there was none of them.
Zero tickets. 0 tickets. 0. Oslo 3IN-150 seater.
Wow, those Danish bastards. Wow.
But I put Brussels in Yeah, instead of Milan.
And how was that? We sold sixteen well.
You know that's. It's a small venue and only went
to sale last week. 70 seater, right?
Well, see, but Barcelona we're keeping and the rest are kind of
OK, but I just try in these place, you know, you got to try
these places. You got to try you.
Got to try sometimes. There's only three people and
you guys say, all right, not now.
We need to figure out them what we'll do with a friend.
Maybe we can work like a we could crack it with childcare.
We're like if your shows a certain time, Yeah, my shows a
certain time. We can just have the kids be at
a certain place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We could do like a little. Same venue you're on after me or
before? I'm OK with that.
Ideally I love to do show like 6 or 7.
Yeah, I could do seven or eight. I don't really want to do 5 or
6, it's a little early for me. I could go 78, you go with the
9. Great.
Yeah, settled. So I think that would that would
be ideal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we just. I mean, it's going to be a busy
August for my wife, who now has three kids, but it'll be.
Fine. All our kids are going to get
along. It's fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll.
Be fine. Yeah, umm, I first, I really
appreciate you doing this podcast, but also the fact that
you just would go on stage as well.
Oh yeah, I. Like doing nothing.
A lot of comedians. I'm not a but I don't I don't
need like time before my show. I don't I'm not like I guys get
my thoughts together. My I don't.
My thoughts are either together or they're not.
Like you're not. I support a comedian not that
long ago who had like in the last say 2 years who put just
for you, just talking about normally.
And then he put an iPod in, and I mean an iPod with wired
headphones, which threw me off. Eight mile.
No, yeah, mile. Just sitting there, like I'm
going to need a couple of minutes and just sat there.
Who? This is after this podcast and.
Just sat there and went for it. Wow.
Yeah, Wow. Weird move.
Yeah. I mean, I used to listen to that
song before track meets when I was in high school, but yeah,
that was not a comedy show. I don't I It seems like a quite
aggressive music. Yeah, to then tell.
Joe do spoken word. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Michelle, I really appreciate doing the part.
Loved it. I was delighted that you said
you would do it in the first. Place Yeah, You know, to be
honest, I always, I don't really listen, listen to any podcasts
because I you know, when you like, hear stuff about people
and then you like meet them and you're like, did you tell me
this or did I hear this? Like, I just hate knowing too
much about somebody, you know, so I I steer away from them.
And then because I haven't done a lot of podcasts, I'm like, am
I bad at podcasts? No, it's been great.
You know, always a little bit self-conscious.
No, it's been great. Oh, good, great.
I'm I get concerned that you have to go on.
This always happens like we did. We did the pod with the.
I think Tom was done. Berkridge was about to.
We were backstage. Yeah, he was about to go on
stage at 3 Arena in Dublin and he's like, no, I'm good.
And I was like, please, let's wrap this up you.
Need you. Need to go but I think.
All I have to do before I get on stage is take off my shirts so.
I think you have a great time tonight.
Yeah. I mean, it's a brilliant room.
Yeah. People are excited about it.
Yeah, I'm, you know, like the whole thing is like, I hope to
get to do this tour again next year and like, you know, build
this audience. Yeah, because it's a cool place.
Will you be in Barcelona and there?
When are you there? Decem, December.
December, I'll probably be there.
Most likely I'll be there and I'll let me, I'll, I'll send me
the link to your show so we can make sure there's more than
three people. Hey, Barcelona is sold about 11.
That's that's that's actually true.
Could do with way more because I have a friend who just did
Barcelona and I say when he was promoting it, I was like, hey,
you say you sold it out and then I'll go and be like, he sold it
out. You do the same for me.
Yeah, but yeah, Michelle. Honestly, that's all PR is
anyway, yeah. Thank you so much for doing the
podcast. Thank you for having.
Me, I really appreciate it. Yeah, I was going to make you a
cup of tea like property, but we couldn't get a kettle before we
start. Well, I have my own.
Just imagine I have my own tea which is wine and.
Thank you so much. Thank you.