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Zippers, I'm delighted to be 
joined on this episode of the TV

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With Me podcast with Alex Lowe, 
the guy behind the unbelievable 

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Clinton Baptiste, who you might 
have first seen on Phoenix 

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nights, who you might have seen 
on his hilarious Talk sport 

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appearances all over the place 
on sell out tours at the minute.

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He's doing Mandela Hall in 
Belfast tonight and we got him 

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on the day of the show, which 
sometimes, most of the time that

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never works out, but it's worked
out today. 

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What a treat this was. 
We talk about how his character 

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started, what it's become now, 
the background to it. 

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He does a great character. 
Barry from Watford as well, who 

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you might have heard on Radio 2 
before. 

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This was someone I've never met 
before, but someone who I'm 

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going for a burger with tomorrow
night. 

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These gentlemen please do this 
episode that seems me podcast 

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with my guest Alex. 
Alex. 

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Alex has form. 
The form is really. 

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So I only found it's crazy to 
find out that this is not a 

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universal phrase. 
And that gets me when I say, 

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how's the form? 
You're perplexed. 

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I wasn't perplexed. 
I mean, I have heard of. 

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I'm in good form. 
Yes, you heard of, you've heard 

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of form. 
I've heard of the word form. 

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Yeah. 
So, but would you say like, you 

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know, I, I, I assume that was a 
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been saying that across the 
world for years. 

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I mean to tell you, nobody says 
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But it's good. 
Do you think there's potential 

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in it to to travel? 
I am going to start using that 

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phrase. 
How's the form? 

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Yes. 
I suppose you said it to a 

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teacher or something. 
That might mean something else, 

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Yes. 
Or like a swimming coach. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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But how's the form? 
I mean, I've just got off a 

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flight from London to here and 
yeah, staggered, got my case 

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from the carousel, but the form 
is all right. 

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But I'm not feeling. 
But that's a quick flight. 

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But from London, is it you fight
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London I'm just making the 
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I'm just making the point that 
the form would be better had I 

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not flown at 5:00 in the 
morning, got up and got to. 

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Yeah, but without flight, like 
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down. 
It's not right. 

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The form, Yeah, but what I'm 
saying is the form. 

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Oh, Jesus. 
And also there is a thing in 

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Northern Ireland when we ask you
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don't, we don't ever want the 
answer to be not great. 

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Has anyone used that expression 
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How's your form? 
Yeah, I said everyday to people.

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I know you do, but is anyone in 
this world? 

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Oh, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Oh, yeah. 
OK. 

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Yeah, but I would say if I'm in 
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America. 
But now I'm realised you're the 

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person who finally sat me down 
and told me. 

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What you're saying that when you
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good or you do? 
When you do that here, you'll 

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how's your forum? 
The answer is grand. 

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You know you never what you 
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forms not great. 
It is quite tedious if you are 

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someone in general how they're 
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And I'm a real one for my my 
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me at Heathrow and we just had 
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just, it was a perfunctory 
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How? 
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Perfunctory? 
Now in the same way how's the 

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form has never left Northern 
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got in here. 
It was a polite. 

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It was a polite. 
Question I will be using. 

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Perfunctory. 
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I pronounced it properly, so 
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Is it? 
Would you say instead of plate? 

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So I could say yeah. 
Polite. 

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So I could say that it means it 
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It's like it means sort of. 
It's just, it's just a bland 

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statement, perfunctory. 
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So I could say to the venue 
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me perfunctory when I arrive. 
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quote like you tell me. 
Say, how's the form? 

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Yeah, I hope you find me 
perfunctory. 

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And then he'd go. 
Why speaking in that? 

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Yeah. 
Where's that problem? 

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No, I mean it was it was applied
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the form thing again? 
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just to confuse things. 
He asked me how Easter went and 

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I gave him, you know, chapter 
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Do you have that expression, 
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about what I did over Easter. 
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know quite as much detail of 
that, but it was a chance for me

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to get a few things off my chest
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form is dipping slightly. 
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if he didn't want that honesty 
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that would have been bad 
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His funk, funk functory would 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
When you travel. 

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Someone like this, I mean, is 
anyone you've? 

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Is anyone listening to? 
Oh yeah, absolutely. 

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Oh, they love all this. 
Dozens of people. 

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So prezist episode of the TV's 
me podcast is sponsored by none 

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other than that prize guy. 
We're talking about Ireland's 

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largest prize competitions page 
over at that prize guy.co.uk. 

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You've seen that prize guy 
everywhere. 

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The, the Brandon is up at, at 
fight events, at football games.

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He spawned the Grand National. 
You, you want a, you want a 

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camel right in Lanzarote and the
camp, you look very carefully at

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the side of that camel. 
That price guy, it's everywhere.

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Dan, give me an example of a 
prize that's going on there 

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right now. 
At the end of the month you 

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could win 100,000 lbs, but he's 
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the total prize part is 300,000,
so you've got three chances to 

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win. 
And a ticket for that would cost

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you £8. 
Currently it's £0.99. 

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A pence back in a pound. 
That's what he's doing. 

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WWW dot dot prize guy.co.uk. 
So what else? 

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We need to point you in the way 
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I know you love the podcast. 

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I know you love the ad rate, but
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was can I get a streamline pod? 
Can I get an ad free podcast? 

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You can patreon.com/T with me 
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The ad free podcast is the is 
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We also have our bonus episode 

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every week. 
I mean, you've, you've half a 

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decade's worth of content there 
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Just just click, click on it. 

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Like no mining involved. 
That's the difference with our 

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The link is in the description. 
Yeah, you've got, you've got 

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your tour show tonight. 
If I were you, I'd be going at 

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an early flight for a nighttime 
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Yeah, you've got a lot of time 
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take you to wake up and become 
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Well, it's going to take me. 
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We filmed the show at the London
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there's people asking me all 
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I'm a bit bored with that, but 
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They want, you know, actual time
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So I'm going to be doing that 
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bits we want to use for social 
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credits to be, what the font, 
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So I'll do a bit of that. 
It does take me, I mean the, the

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I support myself on this tour. 
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show starts, I play my other 
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that I used to do on Steve 
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young people out there won't 
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I remember. 
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This old man, it's very ultimate
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So I do him first which I used 
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I'm getting so old I I just have
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teeth. 
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gear on 1st and then in the 
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change into Clinton. 
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Jonathan. 
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Barry, put the wig on, make sure
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from the audience for for 
questions for Clinton's spirit 

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guide. 
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Want to ask about how how it 
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remember loving that character 
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ago when, when you started when 
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live? 
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you know this is me going back 
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form which you didn't actually 
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No, I would. 
I would. 

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OK, so all that time ago when we
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in for one episode and I was up 
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That's it. 
Do you know what that is Mandela

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Effect is? 
I don't know because I, I've 

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always wanted to use. 
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always thought that you have if 
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are you? 
That character was in most of 

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whole thing. 
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Yeah, I know. 
It's unbelief. 

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Wasn't it talking about 
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pence out? 
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What happened? 
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Edinburgh Festival in 1998. 
I was doing a show about British

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wrestling. 
Great year, by the way. 

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Great year. 1998 was a from 
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Excellent. 
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Well, I was very busy at that 
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and I kind of thought, you know,
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around all your career waiting 
for the phone to ring, I think I

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got to about 30 and thought I'm,
I just, this is a waste of a 

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There's there's, you know, 
digital media and there's social

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media and you can just go and 
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you know. 
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do? 
You'd have a proposal for a 

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comedy show and you'd send it to
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happen, mainly because I'm not 
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jump start your career. 
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about British wrestling where I 
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haystacks and, you know, Kendo 
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the 70's, the world of sport, 
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Peter Kay and Bomber Pat Roach 
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a wrestler, came to review it 
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And so I met Peter that way. 
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Kay thing, which was sort of the
forerunner, where I played this 

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character Sparky in one of the 
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And then Peter phoned me up one 
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I got a part for you. 
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thankfully, thank God. 
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it in Bolton and it seems to be 
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really, really, really funny. 
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You knew that even even on. 
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I mean, at about the same time I
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Crooke's part in the office 
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failed to get that, sadly. 
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remember at the time saying to 
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really love to do this as it on 
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character comedy. 
So can I ask was that was it 

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almost like bittersweet when it 
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that character and it and it 
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like, this is great, but but 
then you were thinking, I'm only

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going to get to do this this day
on this set. 

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Yeah, it was. 
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want me to do it as it on the 
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So that was he just said you're 
not doing that. 

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So that was kind of the end of 
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approached about a sitcom, which
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Clinton, which I've only found 
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great. 
Shame. 

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him again. 
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yeah, that's all right. 
I don't have any. 

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You hadn't. 
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hadn't. 
I, I didn't do it. 

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I only did it once on Remember, 
that's Britain's got a Jesus 

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Christ Superstar thing that 
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I, I made a little cameo and 
that's Clinton, where Peter said

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you put on weight, which is 
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But anyway, well, you know, it 
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crime. 
I was not in such good form 

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then. 
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again in 2015 after we did 
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Manchester Arena and he said 
that that's fine, that's great. 

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You can go and do it. 
And honestly, I mean, this is 

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not, this is not, you know, 
being humble or anything. 

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I did it. 
Someone invited me to go and do 

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it at Stockport Masonic Society,
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And I went all the way up there 
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there was massive audience there
and I were thinking, this is 

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extraordinary. 
Who else is on? 

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It's like, and they come to see 
Clinton. 

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And this is, this is not false 
modesty. 

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I could not believe that. 
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me. 
They people love Beat and they 

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love Phoenix nights. 
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then, oh, I see, I really must 
try and do this. 

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And thankfully, Peter has always
let me do it. 

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He's been great to me. 
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you're not doing it. 
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well, you know, 11 coming to 12 
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touring his Clinton and going 
doing, you know, stand up nights

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and character nights and. 
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put the the the outfit on, you 
did that episode of Phoenix 

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Nights to know how much have you
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the. 
Character, it's not really 

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anything like it was. 
I, you know, Clinton's got a 

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history now he's got, you know, 
he lives in a flat. 

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I did, I did a podcast where I 
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who lived in, in, you know, 
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He's got a sort of mad neighbour
called Ruth. 

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Clinton's got a name, you know, 
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monitoring Baptiste, you know, 
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and all this kind of stuff. 
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sort of fleshed it out a little 
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It it, it just like nothing 
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those talk sport clips. 
Like when you're on the 

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breakfast. 
Show. 

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Oh God. 
With Alan Brazil and Ally McCoy,

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it's just I think because of how
giddy they are. 

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Yeah, well, that's lovely. 
I mean, I don't think Brazil 

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always gets what I'm doing. 
I know. 

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I sorry. 
I think that makes it funnier. 

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I think that makes it fun. 
Well, because Ali is just Ali 

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buzzing. 
Yeah, Brazil is a bit does yeah,

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doesn't quite know what, but I 
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This. 
Is very uncharming of me. 

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But what happens is, you know, 
it's, you get up very, very 

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early. 
You know, you're doing sort of 

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radio. 
And I used to do it, I used to 

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do lots on Christian O'connell's
Absolute Radio show. 

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So it means that all night long 
you're thinking, oh God, I've 

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got to get up in a minute and be
funny. 

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When you've got it, when you're 
going on holidays, early flight,

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exactly like you can't rest. 
Exactly. 

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And so going in there to talk 
sports, which is, you know, it's

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all a bit unforgiving. 
It's all very alpha male and 

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it's all a bit. 
You're a comedian. 

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Are you getting back in there? 
You want somebody, You want 

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somebody to change. 
It's all, there's nothing kind 

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of nice. 
Yeah. 

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And then you go, there's a love 
you on now, Alex, you know, you 

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do a gig about Man United, blah,
blah, blah. 

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And I've written tonnes of stuff
the night before. 

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And you can see this a couple of
times because the cameras are. 

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On on the notes. 
And I've got all these bloody 

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notes in front of me and Alan, 
you know, I mean, I did one at 

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Halloween and I sat down ready 
to do my 5 minutes off. 

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I've I've written the jokes. 
It takes some writing. 

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You don't just turn up. 
And anyway, John Glanton, why is

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it? 
Why is Halloween and where did 

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it come from? 
I'm like, Alan, I've written. 

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What do you have absolutely no 
idea? 

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Alan, what do you think this is?
And you think, I mean, when I 

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used to work like for Steve 
Wright on Radio 2, the likes of 

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him and Ali Mccoist, they for 
some reason, they get it, you 

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know, And it's not Alan's fault.
He's he, he is a presenter, but 

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he's a footballer first and 
foremost. 

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But you want someone, all you 
want is to someone to sit there 

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and laugh and that's it. 
And you feel confident you can 

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do it. 
But don't start asking me the 

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history of Halloween or Druid 
festivals. 

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You. 
Know, it's like, do you remember

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that guy who went to Guy, 
somebody who was called, he went

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to BBC to for a job interview 
about being a cleaner and then 

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they had him on. 
Yeah, he's like the head of 

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Apple in the UK or something. 
You just have to like fill a bit

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of that Guy. 
Was great to see him as much 

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anymore. 
No, no. 

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But as you say, Ali is a great 
supporter and he often, you 

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know, sends me a little note. 
And the other one is Jim White, 

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who turns up to see me and 
things. 

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So I'm completely delighted by 
all that stuff. 

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And it's a really, this is once 
again, this is not false 

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modesty. 
I'm I'm 58 now. 

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No, I am. 
I am. 

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And but, you know, all these 
years, as I say, being an actor 

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and you know, I tapped up in all
sorts of people's shows and 

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stuff over the years, But 
suddenly at my age to be filling

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these theatres that we're we're 
doing, we filled the London 

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Palladium and all this kind of 
stuff. 

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First of all, hats off to Peter 
K Thank God for letting me doing

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it to, to do it. 
But also, you know, people come 

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out the woodwork and they talk 
about, they ask me about other 

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stuff I've done over the years. 
And I think where's everyone 

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been all this time? 
I suddenly, you know that. 

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So, so that's, it's a really 
lovely, lovely position to be in

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suddenly. 
I mean, the fact that, you know,

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the character Clinton, but he's 
obviously a clairvoyant. 

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Do do you, have you done any 
like training in that, you know,

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just to sort of help the act 
along? 

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I, I've seen an awful lot of it 
on YouTube and I just, you know,

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all those tropes and all that 
cold reading stuff. 

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Yeah, I the honest truth is I'm 
not. 

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I couldn't give two hoots about 
the paranormal. 

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Yes, it is purely to serve a lot
of pathetic double entendres, 

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right. 
Third eye this open your third 

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eye that, you know, all all this
kind of stuff. 

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So I was thinking if Clinton 
wasn't a clairvoyant medium 

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psychic, he'd be a second hand 
car salesman. 

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No disrespect for any of our 
second hand car, but do you know

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what I mean? 
He would be sort of pulling a 

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fast 1. 
And I, I always think without 

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being too wanky about, can I say
wanky up, OK, without being too 

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pretentious about it. 
The I was going to say I forgot 

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what I was going to say. 
Now. 

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Yeah, it's, it's always funny, I
think in comedy, character 

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comedy or drama or whatever, 
where you have a low status 

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character trying to play high 
status because the audience love

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the idea that you can see the 
cogs working and there's nothing

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funnier than someone who thinks 
they're a little bit something. 

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And we all know he's not. 
I mean, I mentioned it in my 

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friend Angelos epithemia, Dan 
Skinner, we do a double act, 

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Angelos and Barry, and he will 
do this great thing where 

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Angelos is. 
Yeah, he's trying to be sort of 

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one of the guys and he said 
guys, guys, guys, you know, like

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he's trying to elevate him stuff
here. 

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And all you can see is this 
rather useless. 

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Yeah, Guy that's for me is 
really fun. 

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And the audience like to feel 
superior, don't they? 

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They like to think we're better 
than this guy. 

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So Precious episode of the Tea 
With Me podcast is sponsored by 

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none other than Daily Lights. 
No, we get reads for ads and 

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they go, can you say this? 
Can you say that? 

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See with Daily Lights, I don't 
need to see the read because I'm

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passionate about, I've always 
had a passion for deli lights 

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because deli lights is right 
here in the heart of county, 

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down in the foothills of the 
morn. 

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What's that smell? 
It's delicious gourmet food. 

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You go in the, you know, a lot 
of garages and all that sort of 

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stuff and you, you want food on 
the go. 

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You put your expectation level 
quite low. 

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I'll just grab a sandwich. 
See deli lights, you go in 

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there. 
It's like a proper, like lovely 

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kit, looks like a restaurant 
kitchen and they have all 

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different ranges. 
They've got like a range of time

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protein. 
They've got like a kind of fancy

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one, which is great. 
You go into the office, your 

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mate has a, has a what's a 
what's a sad sandwich? 

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Sardines. 
Oh yeah, smells too. 

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Your mate has a smelly sardine 
sandwich. 

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You go in there with some sort 
of, you know, check and take a. 

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Gourmet Gourmet. 
Sandwich gourmet sandwich you're

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the top of the pops deli lights 
you can find in central boots, 

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Sainsbury's super value, even 
the big Tesco. 

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I don't mean the express deli 
lights a better way to sandwich.

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I don't do anywhere near as in 
fact, I just don't do it anymore

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because I guess with this in 
stand up, they're my focuses, 

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but I've done character comedy 
before and I love it. 

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I absolutely love it. 
And I did a little bit of live 

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stuff. 
So I I I always started as a 

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stand up and then I had a couple
of characters and I did it live 

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a couple of times and I was, I 
was actually like a bit work 

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because it was so much fun and I
thought I want to keep stand up 

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and this kind of separate, but 
the, you know, I wasn't my 

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character didn't require me to 
really. 

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It required me to put on a 
blazer. 

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That was kind of it. 
The thing is, first of all, 

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you'll know in character. 
You can say stuff that's 

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outraged. 
It's not really you saying it, 

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but this is genuine. 
I am always insanely jealous of 

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straight stand up. 
Before I get too old, I really 

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want to just do stand up as me 
and to do material about what 

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interests me as a 58 year old 
man, not an old man like Barry, 

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not a paranormalist like 
Clinton. 

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And one day I'm going to do it. 
But I, I think it's a really 

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strange thing because I meet a 
lot of stand ups who say the 

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same. 
They'd love to be doing this 

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sort of character stuff. 
And I feel the complete 

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opposite, that this is really a 
thing to hide behind because I 

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mean it. 
It, it terrifies me that any 

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students in tonight, ladies and 
gentlemen. 

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Oh, you've seen my ACT. 
Please don't start saying that. 

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But. 
What was the character? 

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What was the? 
Character so it was a so this 

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time we're in Hollywood which is
5 minutes from Belfast yeah has 

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a reputation as being very very 
middle class right in Northern 

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Ireland and then. 
And I used to work in a, there's

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a Yacht Club restaurant thing 
down by the shore, right? 

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And I used to work there was 
like a dishwasher. 

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And then you would encounter 
these. 

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I was like 15-16. 
Yeah. 

445
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,520
And you'd encounter these just 
very middle class, very loud, 

446
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,800
good people. 
But like, no self-awareness 

447
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,480
characters. 
Very, very posh. 

448
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,920
So I did a character who was 
like, he played a little bit of 

449
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,160
rugby, you know, in and out of 
the Academy sort of thing when 

450
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,960
he was younger. 
And he was just a socialite kind

451
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:24,040
of guy, but like very loud voice
and just very brat, no awareness

452
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,160
of the world. 
And and I I did some video 

453
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,560
videos with that. 
So that would have really helped

454
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,520
my stand up back in the day 
because the very locally the 

455
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,480
videos did did very well. 
But it was it was a very here 

456
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,760
thing, you know, and and that 
then got people to come see my 

457
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,960
stand up. 
But I just I also then I did a 

458
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,920
football, by the way, as that 
character, like we, I got the 

459
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,960
interview Rory McIlroy. 
So because he's, he's from this 

460
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,120
time, OK, right. 
So, so I would have the 

461
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,960
character always talked about 
my, I would only referred. 

462
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,480
It was McElroy. 
You know, McElroy is a friend of

463
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,560
Rory and, and used to tell these
tales about, you know, it was 

464
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,240
out last night with McElroy. 
And then he, he retweeted couple

465
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,160
of things which which really 
helped. 

466
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,120
And and then he had like this is
going back maybe 12 years. 

467
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,240
He had like one day off. 
He was back in the country and 

468
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,200
he was like, I'll come do a 
video and I interviewed him in 

469
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,640
in character fantastic. 
And and so, but but I, what 

470
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,840
happened was I would, the main 
thing I did is that character 

471
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,520
was I would go around freshers 
or in student days in Belfast 

472
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,960
and interview student like Vox 
pops on the street. 

473
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,520
But I kind of got to the point 
where and, and it was a very 

474
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520
local thing, but too many people
within Belfast, probably 

475
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,480
especially younger people knew 
of it. 

476
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,800
So what kind of it took away 
that like when I was 

477
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,120
interviewing people, they were, 
they were maybe too aware of it.

478
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,520
Yeah, sure. 
For it to really work. 

479
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,240
And they were maybe. 
What's he going to say here? 

480
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,080
Yeah. 
But I always mean to do it 

481
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,640
again. 
And I just, I, I will do it 

482
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,440
again. 
I just. 

483
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,440
Well, that's the great thing. 
As you get older, you can't 

484
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,960
really grow out of that. 
Maybe you'll grow into. 

485
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,080
You're not going to get any 
worse as an actor, are you? 

486
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,240
You're going to get better as 
an. 

487
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,640
Actor you. 
Couldn't get any worse, that's 

488
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,200
what I mean. 
But what do you in terms of 

489
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:19,280
writing, you know, as you now? 
I mean, that is my terror, being

490
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,160
I'm considerably older than you,
but my terror of sitting down 

491
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280
and going right here we go. 
The one thing no one wants to 

492
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,840
hear is, oh, my back's playing 
up. 

493
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,320
Isn't that funny, ladies and 
gentlemen? 

494
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,880
Again, how have you seen my ACT?
Because that's what I mean. 

495
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280
But, you know, I mean, I've got 
a friend, Dan, Dan Evans, who's 

496
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,200
on the circuit. 
And he was saying to me he's, 

497
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,040
he's, in fact, he's slightly 
older than me. 

498
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,920
And he started to say, I just 
don't know. 

499
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,920
There are not the cultural 
touchstones they used to be. 

500
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,920
You know, like so my kids don't 
know what I thought were 

501
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,480
absolute general knowledge. 
You know where you want to, for 

502
00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:01,080
example, if you wanted to go to 
who is known as a sort of D list

503
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,240
celebrity, This is this is this 
is going to be shut down flames 

504
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,680
for this who's of rather loose 
morals. 

505
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,640
You would. 
You might if you needed these 

506
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,760
touched. 
Male or female? 

507
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,320
Say is it Casey Price is what I 
was going to say right. 

508
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
You know, if you and I'm sorry, 
that's I hope that's not 

509
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,600
scurrilous libellous, but she's 
sometimes perceived like not by 

510
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,400
me, not by most people, but have
her. 

511
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,880
And you're about she's a less to
you to. 

512
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,000
Me, she's great. 
Katie, if you're watching. 

513
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,120
But you know, when you, you 
know, sort of you used to have 

514
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,440
these things at your fingertips 
or you would just have all these

515
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,360
people lined up and it would be 
a shorthand for something people

516
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:39,240
would know. 
Well, even like time moves so 

517
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,200
quick that, yeah, a friend of 
mine who's my age had a had a 

518
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,360
joke about like, like his like a
dream thing. 

519
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,080
And he's like, oh, if it was 
Rihanna and The Pussycat Dolls 

520
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,480
and it wasn't getting a huge 
laugh. 

521
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,120
And I had to say like that art. 
Younger people at gigs won't 

522
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:59,200
know who The Pussycat Dolls are.
I remembered I did the Peter 

523
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,600
Serafina which show on BBC Two 
years ago. 

524
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,960
It was great and that I remember
he did a great sketch with Benny

525
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,400
Wong where Peter was playing 
John Lennon and Benny was 

526
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,600
playing Yoko and they were at 
the big white grand piano. 

527
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,280
And it was clearly imagine, you 
know, the video with the the the

528
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,120
curtains blowing in. 
And I was just stood off set and

529
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:26,760
I heard the make up woman, young
woman saying what was it? 

530
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,840
John Lennon, John Lennon. 
Right, OK. 

531
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,000
And so I said to her, please 
tell me you know who John Lennon

532
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,720
is. 
And she went, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

533
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,040
It's, I said, used to write with
Paul McCartney. 

534
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,280
I said, do you know Paul 
McCartney? 

535
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Is this Stella McCartney's dad? 
Now I part of me thinks, all 

536
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,800
right, she's considerably 
younger than me, but it's kind 

537
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000
of your duty to know this stuff,
isn't it? 

538
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,360
I mean, there's, there's people 
today who probably know David 

539
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,240
Beckham as a Brooklyn's dad. 
That's right. 

540
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,840
Brooklyn the chef, the, the 
technical chef, his dad. 

541
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,640
You play football, you know. 
Yeah. 

542
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,000
People, though, like we, there's
even some cultural reference to 

543
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,480
the Major, like we talked about 
Ravi Shankar on another podcast.

544
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,600
I do recently. 
Yeah. 

545
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,280
I didn't know who Ravi Shankar 
was. 

546
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,920
I've never had more heat in my 
life. 

547
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,760
Really. 
Yeah, people lost their mind. 

548
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480
Was anyone calling you that? 
I mean, it's Courtney Riving 

549
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,120
where I come from. 
Is it Ravi Shankar For what 

550
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,640
ticket? 
But people were like, well, do 

551
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:31,480
have you not heard of George 
Harrison? 

552
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,080
I mean, I have. 
And then, well, then Ravi 

553
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Shankar, I was like, yeah, no, 
that's not how that works. 

554
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,760
I like. 
I guess. 

555
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760
I suppose the things you know, 
my kids know stuff I don't know 

556
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,160
about. 
It doesn't make it any. 

557
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,560
Sabrina Carpenter. 
Yeah, I've heard of. 

558
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
I've heard of her, Yeah. 
You're doing what that person 

559
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,320
did about Paul McCartney and 
John Lennon. 

560
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,560
You're like, yeah, I don't. 
I mean, I guess in our game you 

561
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,000
do have to have one foot in 
popular culture. 

562
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,200
You kind of know who people are.
But and then I think after a 

563
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,240
while you kind of go, look, I'm 
going to play to a certain age 

564
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,880
of crowd. 
That's fine. 

565
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Except I will say that Clinton, 
although it's mostly a 

566
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,160
middle-aged crowd, does attract 
all sorts of. 

567
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,720
People. 
It's unbelievable. 

568
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,120
And I think, I guess what I love
about it, it's got universal 

569
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160
appeal in that those people who 
remember Phoenix Knights, 

570
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,760
there's sort of a young crowd 
who get the sort of, you know, 

571
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,280
magical world of alternative 
stuff that Clinton's a little 

572
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,360
bit like. 
There's people who get the end 

573
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,800
of the pier, old Cobra Tan, not 
the opposite of called 

574
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,120
Britannia, the old Britannia, 
working men's clubs and all 

575
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,200
that. 
And then there's people who just

576
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,280
listen to my podcasts who who 
want to come see it. 

577
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,040
So I'm always delighted. 
What I do get is a lot of people

578
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,840
shouting out and getting pissed 
and having fights. 

579
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Yeah, it is inexplicable to me. 
I don't know what I do attract a

580
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,280
lot of that and it's very often 
trouble. 

581
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,760
Really. 
Oh God, yeah. 

582
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Now, one thing I've done, and 
this is not really to stop that 

583
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,880
kind of thing, but shows always 
start at 8:00. 

584
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Yeah, I do have 7. 
This tour. 

585
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,600
I started in a half seven. 
Can I tell you it is delightful 

586
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,520
at 7:30? 
Yeah. 

587
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,080
With support. 
You're out there at half nine. 

588
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Yeah. 
I do don't have much time on the

589
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
source. 
People have, I think they have 

590
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960
one less drink, right? 
And it's just great. 

591
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,200
I I'm going to tell you a very 
quick story. 

592
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,440
Don't feel the need to make 
quick. 

593
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,920
OK, I feel like a weird thing. 
No, I'll tell you why it's going

594
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,320
to be, it's going to be, it's 
going to be quick only because I

595
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,480
feel like I've told this on 
other podcasts. 

596
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,920
We will go not this again, but I
must tell you I did a gig in in 

597
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:51,320
Winchester in It's quite a posh 
part of southern England and 

598
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,320
Hampshire and I went there my 
age. 

599
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,960
I never, I just was introduced 
to my agent and it was APTA, you

600
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,920
know, parent teachers thing, 
association, association and 

601
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,440
it's. 
Very rare. 

602
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,720
I know things and I was just 
excited that I use that. 

603
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Very good. 
And I went to do this thing and 

604
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,160
they were like, there must have 
been 300 people there on tables.

605
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,160
And it was it was not a private 
school, but it was quite a well 

606
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,040
to do. 
It's quite a well to do area. 

607
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,520
And I took one look at it. 
I thought there's teachers here,

608
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360
there's parents. 
And it's all a bit kind of 

609
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,240
straight laced. 
And I said to my agent who would

610
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,840
for the first time was seeing me
on stage. 

611
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,680
I was headlining ridiculously. 
I said, I'm not going to do the 

612
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
effing and Jeffing tonight. 
There's been no swearing from 

613
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,160
me. 
It's not the time. 

614
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,760
And him and the combo went, I 
promise you it's fine. 

615
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Play your normal game. 
Play your normal game. 

616
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Someone's already already 
dropped the F bomb. 

617
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,680
It's fine. 
Said all right. 

618
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,400
So I went out there headlining 
and you see where this is going 

619
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,320
and I do a thing where I come on
and you know, I'm going to 

620
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,640
contact the dead. 
And a guy shouted Jacko, like 

621
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,080
can you contact Michael Jackson?
So I it was quite loud. 

622
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,520
So I went, I'll come to you in a
minute. 

623
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
So I did a bit of stuff and I 
went and said, now who said 

624
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,640
that? 
Go into the audience and the 

625
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,680
tables kind of parted and there 
was a bloke there and there's a 

626
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,720
bit I've done a number of times.
It's not very pleasant. 

627
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,080
You might have to bleep this 
out. 

628
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,960
OK, So I went to and what's, 
what's your name, my friend? 

629
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,560
And he said Pascal, he was 
French. 

630
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,840
I went, yeah, someone called 
Dave says you're a cunt, right? 

631
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,520
And it normally does well. 
And as I turned away, I thought 

632
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,080
he's not taking that very well. 
And I thought I ignored it, did 

633
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,120
a bit of other stuff. 
And then I, and then I got and 

634
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,200
the thing that tipped this bloke
over the edge was I do think so,

635
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,680
you know, it's, it's. 
True that in any group of 

636
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,480
people, 83% will have 
extraordinary brain skills. 

637
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Looking at you lot and Pascal. 
I might have to revise it down a

638
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,840
little bit. 
Which is just a sort of nothing 

639
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,000
vanilla joke. 
And it was that that sent him 

640
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,480
over the edge and he got up and 
it was French. 

641
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,360
All this stuff was going on. 
And I thought, oh fucking hell. 

642
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,080
So I and I'm, as we've 
established, much more of an 

643
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,000
actor than I am a stand up. 
So I'm not great at the crowd 

644
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,880
control. 
I can do a little bit of it, but

645
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,040
if it goes on too long, I've 
I've had it so and, and no one 

646
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,120
can get him to sit down, sit 
down, shut up, sit down to all 

647
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,200
this was going on. 
And I tried to carry on still 

648
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,120
shouting his wife's trying to 
get to sit down. 

649
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,920
I think he's a bit pissed. 
He was probably post 8:00 by 

650
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,840
now. 
And in the end, I just had to 

651
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,240
go. 
Look, I've apologised, Pascal 

652
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,320
and I, I, what occurred to me 
is, you know, in the British 

653
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Isles, dropping the sea bomb is 
not, it's common currency. 

654
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,280
This it's perfunctory, right? 
But it's which is French. 

655
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Which is actually French for 
good form. 

656
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Yeah, perfunctois. 
Anyway, he he was having so I 

657
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,400
kind of said to him, look 
Pascal, this was a really 

658
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,160
terrible attempt. 
You, it's a different culture. 

659
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,720
You've got some culture, I 
clearly haven't. 

660
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,240
Please can you stop shouting? 
It went on and on. 

661
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,200
In the end I'd say, do you know 
ladies and gentlemen Pascal, 

662
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,040
I've tried to apologise 3 Times 
Now. 

663
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800
We're not getting reluctantly. 
I can't compete with this. 

664
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
I'm going to say goodnight. 
It's only done about 10 minutes.

665
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,719
And as I got off the stage he 
stood up and I thought, you're 

666
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,199
not going to try and beat me up.
Surely I thought this is 

667
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,760
ridiculous. 
I'm wearing this blonde wig. 

668
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,639
I had a sort of bejewelled 
handbag. 

669
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,760
Surely, surely you know, this is
a comedy show. 

670
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,920
What do you think? 
It's I'm not, I'm not this 

671
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,080
bloke, you know. 
And then I thought, you know 

672
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,800
what? 
All his contemporaries have 

673
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,679
spent 10 minutes trying to get 
him to stop. 

674
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,320
I'm not going to be able to stop
this bloke. 

675
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
I'm going to run. 
So it's sprinted out. 

676
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,719
As he came after my blonde locks
flowed behind me, cut this bag, 

677
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,800
James Gill, who was comparing, 
came out the toilet and went 

678
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,719
fucking. 
Who's on, who's on the stage, 

679
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,440
who's on the stage, ran away. 
And as is the way now I with a 

680
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,480
lot of places, you can't get in.
You can't just open a door. 

681
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,960
It's a sort of code. 
I was really shaking myself. 

682
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,880
This guy was going to kill me. 
He's about 20 years younger than

683
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,480
me, massive French bloke. 
And my agent said no. 

684
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,320
I heard him go, no, no, you're 
not going down there, you're not

685
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,840
going down there. 
Rugby tackled him and I was sort

686
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,880
of laughing at the time. 
I, I, I couldn't get anywhere. 

687
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,520
I, I was up behind a sort of 
filing cabinet and I was sort of

688
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,680
laughing. 
This is so ridiculous. 

689
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Took off my wig and all that. 
And a woman came out and said, 

690
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,040
anyway, the whole thing ended 
and a woman came up to me who 

691
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,520
was the head of security and 
said with a very dry mouth, I 

692
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,800
remember thinking, she's more 
frightened than I am and said, 

693
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,760
do you want, do you want to, do 
you want everyone to go before 

694
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,160
you leave? 
And I said, no, I'm not going to

695
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,720
go out to the car park on my 
own. 

696
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:37,560
Yeah, so they gave me like a box
of Quality St, like I'd won it 

697
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,080
in the raffle. 
Well, I thought you meant to 

698
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,440
defend yourself. 
Yeah, he hates the strawberry. 

699
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,320
So I had this like I won it in 
the raffle, got in my car and it

700
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,280
was one of those, he's over 
there, keep walking. 

701
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,880
He's just over there in the car,
but keep walking, keep walking. 

702
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040
I thought, God, this reminds me 
from about the age of from about

703
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,400
14 to 22. 
It could kick off if you go out 

704
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,760
on a Friday, Saturday night, it 
reminded. 

705
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Me of those days, yeah. 
You know, I used to go out and 

706
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920
but Casey, someone would go, 
don't look. 

707
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Now there's someone. 
Yeah, there's someone screwing 

708
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,920
us out of the bar and they'll be
thinking, oh, God, please. 

709
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,960
It was like that. 
And it was like, don't look, now

710
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,520
he's just over there. 
Keep going, keep going. 

711
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,400
I was like, I was like 52 or 
something. 

712
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,560
And so I thought, I don't need 
this. 

713
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,040
I've not had this since school. 
And is this all because you 

714
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,240
wouldn't contact Michael 
Jackson? 

715
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,760
I think it's because some people
and the vast, vast majority of 

716
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,600
people come to see me sort of 
get that I'm never really going 

717
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520
to be that insulting. 
Yeah, dropping the sea bomb is 

718
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
probably. 
Plus if if he's if he's being 

719
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,640
disruptive as well, you got to 
do something to put him down. 

720
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,840
Yeah, I mean there was that, but
I just don't think he, there is 

721
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,600
a vast difference between some 
bloke coming from France over to

722
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Hampshire and sitting in a 
school hall to Clinton who is a 

723
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,680
character from the British 
Working Men's Club. 

724
00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,000
It you know, in Lancashire. 
It's just the 2 worlds collided 

725
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,560
and he was not having it. 
But I'm just saying that to 

726
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,080
illustrate that that sort of 
thing does occasionally. 

727
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,320
I mean it nearly kicked off in 
the London Palladium. 

728
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,640
People told me, my tour manager 
can tell me there was, there was

729
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,680
a bit of aggro there. 
I don't know, I don't know what 

730
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,200
it is. 
I think people think that 

731
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,280
Clinton is, you know, he, he, he
takes a piss out of everyone or 

732
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,320
something. 
Right. 

733
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,240
Do people ever come to the show 
genuinely thinking you can 

734
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,080
contact people? 
Yeah, they do, yeah. 

735
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,400
Right. 
And they don't really maybe 

736
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
realise it's 100% comedy. 
So they think, OK, there's a bit

737
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,880
of a laugh, but also what's my, 
what's my way? 

738
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Nanny said. 
Right there, there there is. 

739
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,000
We did a gig at Canterbury and a
whole row of people very nicely 

740
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,280
dressed. 
Can't be really posh. 

741
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,000
It is quite posh, yeah, but I 
mean, I think it's a mistake 

742
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,800
anyone could have made if you 
don't look at the poster 

743
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,200
carefully enough and. 
How do you think the Red Hot 

744
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Chilli papers feel? 
Yeah, exactly. 

745
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,480
So I think it's a cookery show. 
Yeah, they. 

746
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,080
So they all turned up. 
They're all very well dressed 

747
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,480
and all that. 
And I had a support comedian on 

748
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,800
and they were all pissed off. 
It's a funny thing, evidence 

749
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,760
people doing just being 
appropriate, you know. 

750
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,960
Then I came and they saw about 
10 minutes of me, but of course 

751
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,840
I just saw an entire row get up 
and go. 

752
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,440
You're thinking, was I that bad?
You know, it really, really 

753
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,480
throws you. 
But there, there are times 

754
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,720
people, you know, I did a kick 
in Twickenham in London and 

755
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,320
there's a woman who turned up 
and I could hear her saying is 

756
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,400
he, is he through here? 
I thought, oh God, she came 

757
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,920
through and said it's very funny
what you're doing. 

758
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,000
It's very, I get it, I get it, 
all the tropes of that. 

759
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,400
But I'm a member of the British 
Parapsychological Society. 

760
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,240
I just want you to know that 
your family are on stage with 

761
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,160
you tonight on that stage. 
There's a tiny stage. 

762
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,400
So how they all go on? 
But I went oh, right, right. 

763
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,600
OK yeah, I think it must, must 
go. 

764
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,440
And she said no, no. 
And she said your your old grand

765
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,520
was here. 
I said, oh, right, All right, 

766
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,120
OK. 
I'm just having. 

767
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,280
What did she look like? 
She looked a lot like you. 

768
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,320
I said blood relatives. 
There's a chance. 

769
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
I said OK, right, OK, I've got 
to go. 

770
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,480
And she went yeah, but your 
little dog was there. 

771
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,400
And I said, sorry, your little 
dog was was there that you lost.

772
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,000
Now we did lose a little dog, my
little Rolo. 

773
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,200
And it was a strange it was a 
comfort. 

774
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,920
By the time I got in the car, I 
was convinced that actually she 

775
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,400
had picked up on something. 
And did you say, is that 

776
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,720
something you'd talked about 
before in like a podcast or 

777
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:23,440
anything? 
Could she have known that? 

778
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,200
I think there's a chant in the 
show where I I mentioned a dog, 

779
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,800
but once again, she's confusing 
reality with, you know, fantasy.

780
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Because, because I think like 
I'm so sceptical about all that 

781
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,680
kind of stuff. 
People who would really say 

782
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,280
they're like a clairvoyant, but 
I think all it would take is 3 

783
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,800
seconds of speaking the 1 and I 
go, this is all really. 

784
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,400
That is my terror that I am 
going to be on stage dicking 

785
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,720
around. 
Oh oh. 

786
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,000
Henry the Eighth is just 10. 
Or whatever it is and I'm going 

787
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,680
to see something We were in the 
last gig we did was in 

788
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Bournemouth. 
My, my wonderful tour manager 

789
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080
here took a photo. 
In fact he took three photos in 

790
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,760
a row and the third one there 
was a ghost. 

791
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,360
There is a ghost. 
And if you, you could go to my. 

792
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,040
A Twitter, you can go to my 
website, all this stuff and 

793
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,080
there is clearly a face there. 
And I spoke to Yvette Fielding 

794
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,160
from Most Haunted who thinks it 
is an actual ghost now. 

795
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,880
It could be a light refracting 
off. 

796
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,720
It could be the French guy and 
the bat over your. 

797
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,280
Shoulder, yeah, so there is 
that. 

798
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,480
But I thought like genuinely 
like before I met you, I was 

799
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,040
like, I wonder, do you have like
a bit of parsh like your flight 

800
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560
got delayed by about half an 
hour today and I was like, I bet

801
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,960
you just you were just smug in 
bed for an extra half hour going

802
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,360
like you already knew it was 
going to get the. 

803
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,440
I tell you what this there is 
someone I know called Rachel 

804
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,080
McDonald and she came on my 
podcast to tell a ghost story. 

805
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,280
Now this is kind of thing that 
I, this is what I believe now, 

806
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,000
because I hear so many ghost 
stories. 

807
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000
People write in to me for my 
podcast. 

808
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,240
I meet people at gigs and they 
say, Oh, I saw it, you know, and

809
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,960
I one day I was thinking, do you
know what? 

810
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,480
I don't even know what I believe
anymore. 

811
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,040
I sort of listen to stuff go oh,
wow, thinking I don't know 

812
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,880
whether I believe that or not. 
But Rachel McDonald told me, and

813
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,000
I've no reason to disbelieve 
her, that she sometimes helps 

814
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,960
out on those most haunted. 
They go and they go to 

815
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Chillingham Castle, whatever, 
and people can pay to really sit

816
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,920
around for hours going. 
Did you hear that or whatever? 

817
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,280
I felt that, you know, But she 
told me and I've no reason to 

818
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120
disbelieve her. 
There's nothing in it for her. 

819
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,960
But she said she was there the 
other week and they were sat 

820
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,720
around and I think it's her and 
this, there's another volunteer.

821
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,840
She doesn't even get paid, just 
she's interested in the 

822
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,720
supernatural. 
And she said me and this other 

823
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:46,320
woman were sat there bored out 
of her tits waiting for the the 

824
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,600
the day to finish. 
And everyone you know, gathers 

825
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,840
around and gets there, whatever 
they get, spooky pendant or 

826
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,760
whatever. 
And they sort of sat in this 

827
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,240
hall and she said she was 
chatting this woman and she said

828
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,880
a man came in in old fashioned 
garb. 

829
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,800
Of course. 
And they both looked at him and 

830
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,360
he disappeared. 
And I said, what do you mean? 

831
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,520
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. 
What do you mean disappeared? 

832
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,200
She went literally sort of like 
you imagined, like scooby-doo in

833
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,280
a in a puff of smoke, 
disappeared, disintegrated. 

834
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,640
And she said, I sat there with 
this woman and I went and she 

835
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,560
went, I did you just tell me 
what you just saw? 

836
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400
And she said this woman said 
exactly what we saw. 

837
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,120
We described identically. 
Identically. 

838
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:36,080
Is that a word? 
Yes, I'm spoiling the magic now.

839
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,800
And she said I exactly what she 
saw. 

840
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,040
And she said this person 
disappeared in front of their 

841
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,080
eyes. 
They didn't look away. 

842
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,920
And he hid behind a grand piano 
or something. 

843
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,960
He disintegrated into the air 
and said, I'm telling you, 

844
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,400
that's what happened. 
Now, what I think is not that 

845
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,480
it's necessarily the undead 
forever stuck in limbo between 

846
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,320
the real world and, you know, 
heaven. 

847
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,400
I think it's possibly, and I, I 
didn't do very well in school 

848
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,120
with science, but you know, 
these things like astrophysics, 

849
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,760
quantum physics, where time is 
not linear, where it might be 

850
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,000
like a stain on time. 
It might be someone who was 

851
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,040
around about that time and 
you're seeing different layers 

852
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,320
of time. 
Well, I know what you're talking

853
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,320
about, yes. 
First of all, let's not rule out

854
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,600
you ever see people vape 
nowadays. 

855
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:31,440
They vape so big. 
Someone does a big vape, yeah. 

856
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,520
And then you you sometimes you 
lose the minute you. 

857
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,320
But then why was he? 
Wearing a little Metal Gear, 

858
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,200
say. 
Yeah. 

859
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,600
But then also see, we're saying 
about time. 

860
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,880
Yeah. 
Do you know that if somebody is 

861
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,200
at a star, like if someone was 
at a star, Yeah, right. 

862
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,240
And they look down at Earth. 
Now go on, They would see the 

863
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,640
Roman Empire. 
I did know that, yeah. 

864
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,160
That's crazy, isn't? 
It doesn't quite help us with 

865
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,280
this thing though, does it? 
Well, you say that, but that 

866
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,320
might have been, you know, 
something like that. 

867
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,880
Was interesting what I said 
though, wasn't it? 

868
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Yeah. 
Right. 

869
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:19,480
But I also think like in my I 
can't like if someone told me 

870
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,920
that I I like the idea, but I 
just I couldn't let that I in my

871
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,360
head, I couldn't have that be 
I'd be like, there must be so 

872
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,600
because these people, they're 
always wearing old clothes too. 

873
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160
Yeah, yeah. 
Well, yeah. 

874
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,640
That's because they're from the 
past, isn't it? 

875
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,840
But they're very often Victorian
people, and that was just 

876
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,120
because that was a very popular.
Club never nude. 

877
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,760
No, they never nude and they 
never caveman, are they? 

878
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,120
Exactly, you know. 
And they're never smiling. 

879
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,240
I'd be excited to see people if 
I've been stuck in time. 

880
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:54,480
I don't think they always know 
that they're there, do they? 

881
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,760
I mean, there was a guy who who 
wrote into my podcast, we had a 

882
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,280
long chat and he's a, he works 
some council grave digging 

883
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,960
thing. 
And he said, there's a guy who 

884
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,600
would turn up and in quite smart
shoes and he looked like he was 

885
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,280
in his kind of 60s garb. 
And he turned around and saw 

886
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160
this guy. 
And the bloke would, it was 

887
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,720
almost like a monologue about, 
oh, yes, I'll come see a friend 

888
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:17,720
of mine. 
And he said, when I think about 

889
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,400
it now, I asked him questions 
that he didn't really answer. 

890
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,320
And he just had his set spiel 
about what he was doing there. 

891
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:28,200
And he said, I went knelt down 
to, you know, dig out some 

892
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,520
earth, whatever, and turn 
around. 

893
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,960
He'd gone. 
And he said he spoke to other 

894
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,360
gravediggers in that cemetery. 
He said, oh, you see him all the

895
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,520
time. 
This guy turns up and curiously,

896
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,320
the shoes are not muddy. 
And it's like, where did you 

897
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,880
come from? 
There's no main road and he sort

898
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,760
of tends to disappear now, 
whether he's a stain on time, 

899
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,560
whether he is maybe a ghost. 
A Roman soldier. 

900
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Maybe he's a Roman soldier in 
Did you want to say the 60s? 

901
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Right 60s close. 
Right. 

902
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Not 60. 
AD, OH. 1960. 

903
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Because that's sometimes, like, 
sometimes that freaks me out, 

904
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,760
the idea that like, because last
night at the show I had a lady 

905
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,160
in the front row in the middle. 
Right. 

906
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,120
And she started, she was 
chatting a bit and then I ended 

907
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,480
up getting into a back and forth
with her. 

908
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,760
Yeah. 
And she was saying some pretty 

909
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,240
mad things, right. 
And then and I was like, is this

910
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,600
your daughter, by the way? 
Younger girl sitting beside her.

911
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,600
And she went, no, the girl went,
no, I'm not with her. 

912
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,800
And I went to the people on the 
other side and went, oh, is this

913
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,760
your mom? 
And they went, Nope. 

914
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,960
And I went imagine after the 
show, I was like, what about 

915
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,360
that Lady? 
And they went, What lady? 

916
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,560
Yeah, that freaks me. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

917
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,000
That just hearing that. 
What lady you? 

918
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,440
Know that gives me the willies. 
Yeah. 

919
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,880
But I mean, I would like, as you
say, I would quite like that 

920
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,120
spooky experience. 
You ever met Derek Akora? 

921
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,400
No, I mean, I think it's safe to
say that Clinton is sort of 

922
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,280
based on Derek Akora. 
Did you ever get Is Derek still 

923
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,240
with us? 
I don't mean I'm. 

924
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,000
Afraid he's no longer with us, 
OK. 

925
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,080
But did he ever like? 
Because he seems like a guy that

926
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,680
would take himself very 
seriously. 

927
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,280
Did he ever get wind of it? 
Did he? 

928
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,280
Did you ever hear? 
Did. 

929
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,800
You know what happened with him.
No. 

930
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,800
Does anyone here know what 
happened to Derek? 

931
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,600
What happened? 
Was they? 

932
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,680
This is true. 
This is well known. 

933
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,320
Well known that Yvette Fielding 
and the like on Most Haunted 

934
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,680
started to suspect he was a 
fraud. 

935
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,880
They did a what's the word? 
A what's a jumbled up word 

936
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,320
called conundrum, a jumping up 
word. 

937
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:45,880
A what conundrum of of of a 
different of of some name or 

938
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,040
other Which was it was it's 
spelt as something like Derek is

939
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,520
a fraud or something like that. 
Bell on the note. 

940
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,840
Yeah, something like that. 
I can't remember, but he then 

941
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:01,400
used that name in A Most Haunted
He he sort of somehow had picked

942
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,160
up on this, this name, this 
jumbled up name. 

943
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,480
What is the name of what is not 
called a jumbled? 

944
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,600
It's called an anagram anagram. 
It's an anagram anagram. 

945
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,920
He picked, he picked up on this 
anagram that they'd fed him and 

946
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,800
then repeated it in the show and
claimed to have, you know, 

947
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,080
contacted this anagram and they 
at that moment knew, knew was a 

948
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,320
fraud. 
And it sort of finished him and 

949
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,400
he was dropped by if that 
feeling and the like. 

950
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,280
I was, I was, yeah, it's true. 
I always liked Derek Gore and I 

951
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,600
always thought there was 
something. 

952
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,840
I thought it's so ridiculous. 
Yeah, it's entertaining. 

953
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,360
All that sort of and. 
I've got she's she's a Princess.

954
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,400
She's a Princess from ancient 
Egypt and she's saying, I don't 

955
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,400
laugh, alright. 
It's like why are? 

956
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,880
They all scouts from ancient 
Egypt, but he that any magic of 

957
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,320
Derek was slightly dispelled by 
me because I saw him going out 

958
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,240
for a Lamb and Butler outside 
Houston station once and I 

959
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,960
thought. 
Yeah, did. 

960
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,000
So would would he? 
Would he have ever heard about 

961
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,280
your character? 
Did you ever hear he was like OK

962
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,640
with it or he didn't like it or?
I, I don't know whether he knew.

963
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,520
He must a lot. 
You know, I don't think it's the

964
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,800
most original thing in the 
world, a kind of mad clairvoyant

965
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,320
psychic. 
But I what the, the thing that 

966
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,360
was really interesting. 
You know, we played Liverpool, 

967
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,840
played the Epstein Theatre, 
though why you'd name a theatre 

968
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,600
after a convicted paedophile I 
don't know, but. 

969
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:33,120
Was actually named. 
Brian Epstein, Brian Epstein, we

970
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,320
and I remember doing his gig 
there. 

971
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,280
And you know, you know what? 
In Liverpool, they're very, 

972
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,280
very, very loyal to their own. 
Absolutely. 

973
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,480
And I remember being there and 
as Clinton was in one of my 

974
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,640
tours, there's a bit about Derek
and not not disparaging at all, 

975
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,240
where Clinton was a massive fan 
of Derek. 

976
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,440
And I just started this thing 
about Derek. 

977
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,640
This bloke went to come on 
Clinton, you're better than 

978
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,960
that. 
Long lived tariff. 

979
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,800
Long lived tariff. 
And I thought, what? 

980
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,840
Derek Ikora. 
Long lived, Janice. 

981
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,320
But maybe that was Derek. 
Baby, it was. 

982
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,680
It sounded like Derek. 
It also sounded like the 

983
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,480
Egyptian Princess as well, 
curiously. 

984
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:21,960
God. 
I am I would I would love that. 

985
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,440
You mentioned, you know, back in
the day there was maybe talk 

986
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,080
about doing a sitcom that didn't
happen. 

987
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,040
But that's I would I would love 
that because I I love watching 

988
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,560
the talk sports stuff to see 
clips. 

989
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,160
But I would I would I would love
to see like you're talking about

990
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,440
Derek Acora having a cigarette 
at the back of yeah, I'd like 

991
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,800
this. 
I'd like to see your character. 

992
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,160
Yeah, and so would I. 
On a boss or like, you know, 

993
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,040
just like, because the look is 
so absurd. 

994
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,720
And it's just like when you're 
talking about, like, fleeing 

995
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,800
that gig, being chased by that 
French guy with, like, your 

996
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:53,920
Diamondback. 
Yeah. 

997
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,600
It was like that. 
Like that? 

998
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,320
To me, one thing that I have to 
add to that, which I forgot, is 

999
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,760
that this French guy coming 
after me so misunderstood what I

1000
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,040
was doing. 
He he he was heard to say, where

1001
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,720
is Faza Christmas? 
Where is FAZA Christmas? 

1002
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:12,280
It's like nothing like Father 
Christmas. 

1003
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,640
I've got whitish hair. 
That's about it. 

1004
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Yeah. 
I would like to do that as well.

1005
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,880
You know, if it's one day, maybe
we'll do ATV show. 

1006
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,680
I would love to do that somehow.
Yeah. 

1007
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,720
No, Sally Phillips's utter name.
Yeah, she once had the council a

1008
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:30,280
show with the Waterfront Hall in
Belfast about 10 years ago, 

1009
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:31,760
right? 
And there was big signs up on 

1010
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,920
the day saying due to unforeseen
circumstances and every comment 

1011
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:38,200
online was like, well, how can 
that happen? 

1012
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,960
Sally. 
Sally Phillips had the 

1013
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Counsellor show. 
From Smack the Pony. 

1014
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,800
All right, no, Sally, who's the?
Sally Morgan. 

1015
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,800
Sally Morgan. 
Psychic Sally Morgan. 

1016
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,400
Psychic Sally Morgan at the. 
Sally Phillips I worked with for

1017
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,760
years on Claire and the 
Community on Radio 40. 

1018
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,360
So, well, not her, but Sally 
Morgan. 

1019
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Psychic Sally Morgan. 
Had to cancel her show due to 

1020
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,920
unforeseen circumstances and it 
was such a big kick. 

1021
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Off you know, I psychic Sally, 
who sort of her name features in

1022
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,600
our show thing that makes me I 
just I don't know whether she's 

1023
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,800
real or not. 
That's not it's not my business,

1024
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,680
but what I think is she does she
goes really X-rated with the I 

1025
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,520
don't mean X-rated, but really, 
really graphic with she. 

1026
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:23,680
You must have seen she does that
awful thing where she's like. 

1027
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:29,160
I got someone coming through, 
but I think there is on a car. 

1028
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,120
Her Reds come off it. 
Is that reading anything? 

1029
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Yeah, she was. 
Yeah. 

1030
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,080
Your daughter was in an accent. 
Her Reds all mashed up. 

1031
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,760
You go. 
Does anyone want to hear? 

1032
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,160
That Yeah, that's right, Sally. 
I'll call someone drugs. 

1033
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,000
It's all come in there and he's 
lying. 

1034
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,400
Purgatory forever all his. 
Arms come off, it's all. 

1035
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,240
Bleeding is that. 
You go, this is supposed to be a

1036
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:01,360
comfort for people. 
It's true. 

1037
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,800
You look it up, it's all that 
really graphic. 

1038
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:11,360
I no, I've never I've never been
to that kind of thing. 

1039
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:17,040
But you're, I'd say you're 
homage to it is is not 

1040
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,600
dissimilar to those shows in 
terms of like the theatrics 

1041
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,040
involved and like you're not 
dialling it up too much compared

1042
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,680
to probably what it is, No. 
I really like that the bit I 

1043
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,280
love is the kind of fast pace, 
as if it's all coming through. 

1044
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,120
Yeah. 
And all that. 

1045
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,560
Please work with me. 
Please work with me. 

1046
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,840
You man, I've got, I've got a 
lady coming through. 

1047
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,640
I mean, really I But then I 
don't know. 

1048
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,680
Is it exploitative of people? 
If it gives people comfort, So 

1049
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:49,920
what? 
I think it's both. 

1050
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,800
I think it can be both. 
But but, but yeah, people just 

1051
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,560
want to hear comforting stuff 
and and I don't really see the 

1052
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,320
harm in in that. 
There isn't necessarily a harm 

1053
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,440
in it, I suppose. 
I don't. 

1054
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,000
I don't. 
I'm not doing it for any reasons

1055
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
to show people up. 
Isn't it outrageous? 

1056
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,000
I don't. 
I'm not really on a crusade for 

1057
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,360
that. 
Now what? 

1058
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,320
When you're doing the live show,
what's something that if you're 

1059
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,480
chatting to someone, what's a 
really good sign for you? 

1060
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,160
What like if you're setting up a
back and forth with someone, 

1061
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,480
what are you looking for them to
give you? 

1062
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,920
Are you looking for them to be 
really into it or is it better 

1063
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,560
if they're just they're a little
bit shy, a little bit? 

1064
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:33,320
To be honest, to be honest, they
are just a stooge in my sketch. 

1065
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,640
Don't join in too much. 
You know, we have a woman who 

1066
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:43,120
comes up on stage who we choose 
for every gig, and the idea is 

1067
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,840
that. 
She had a relationship with a 

1068
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,440
Spanish waiter, got Jose and he 
died running with the bulls in 

1069
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Pamplona. 
And just tonight, Hothe would 

1070
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,600
like to dance with you, do the 
beach ball dance with you on 

1071
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,120
stage tonight one final time. 
And and the big joke is, oh God,

1072
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,120
we I'm going to have to dart. 
They're already horrified about 

1073
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,880
being on stage and then we're 
going to have to do this 

1074
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,120
complicated dance and all I 
require and if I get a chance to

1075
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,120
speak to that person, if there's
applause all after I was just 

1076
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,200
give them a bit of you're doing 
very well. 

1077
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,480
It's right, nearly done. 
I don't want anyone Don't do, 

1078
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,000
please don't do too much. 
Yes, please don't join in too 

1079
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,800
much. 
Please stay seated. 

1080
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,800
And there's always the risk that
someone sees it as their big 

1081
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,200
chance. 
They're on the stage and they're

1082
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,240
going to do something, you know?
So I love it when people don't 

1083
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:39,280
join. 
That little element of 

1084
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,600
reluctance. 
Yeah, that's always funny, you 

1085
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,840
know, And nine times out 10, 
thank God. 

1086
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,520
Hats off to people. 
They get, that's what it is. 

1087
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,040
Has anyone like, you know, you 
mentioned like Jim White being a

1088
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,600
fan of it and has anyone ever 
come to see you at a live show 

1089
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,400
that's that's freaked you out a 
bit because you like that? 

1090
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,240
I can't believe that for 
example, Jeremy Beetle but not 

1091
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:03,080
Jeremy Beetle. 
He came to me one day. 

1092
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,760
Gave me a big hand. 
And what? 

1093
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,280
It's so obvious that I wish I 
hadn't said that, but I tell you

1094
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,440
who came to the Palladium, which
is a massive, massive thrill, 

1095
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,840
was Sue Pollard. 
No, it was. 

1096
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,680
It was kind of his bloody name. 
He's such a thrill. 

1097
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,720
Harry Hill, my friend Rob 
Brydon. 

1098
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,240
Yeah. 
Who then phoned him and said 

1099
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,040
now, Alex, I can't do the voice 
very well now. 

1100
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,680
I just give you a few notes now 
when you come on at the start 

1101
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,880
and you I was like, OK, so it's 
fine, he's my mate. 

1102
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,800
He gave me some notes and then 
what else did I have? 

1103
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,400
His clearly rifling through. 
He says. 

1104
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,120
OK, so now when at 2, when you 
place the chair, why have you 

1105
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,440
got the chair? 
Why is the chair not in the 

1106
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,280
census? 
Well, that's what the director 

1107
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,400
said. 
OK, but I think really you want 

1108
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,440
that to be centre stage and all 
this stuff, which is fine, but 

1109
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,320
the next day you phone me back 
to see whether I'd implement it.

1110
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,640
It's. 
Like. 

1111
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,080
Rob OK, You know, I took some of
it on board, but he's a great 

1112
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,120
mate. 
I don't mind it from him. 

1113
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,360
Have you ever seen Harry Hill in
just a T-shirt? 

1114
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,480
No, I haven't. 
And he was in the full suit and 

1115
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,120
everything. 
Big collar. 

1116
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:15,000
Yeah, no, he was in a nice suit.
But still a collar. 

1117
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,080
I don't think he had a collar on
that night. 

1118
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,360
He was off duty, he was off duty
but I, Jason Byrne is coming to 

1119
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,480
see me tomorrow night in Dublin.
Jason's great. 

1120
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,640
You've Dublin tomorrow night. 
Yeah, Yeah, so am I. 

1121
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,080
Now what do you meet up? 
Would you like to go for a 

1122
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,720
burger? 
I'd love that. 

1123
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,680
There's a great place called 
Bunsen in Dublin. 

1124
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Fantastic. 
Now, what time is your show? 

1125
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,120
Well, 7:30 kickoff, but we could
meet. 

1126
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,080
What this? 
Is I might be meeting Jason. 

1127
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,280
Do you mean Jason? 
Meet. 

1128
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,880
I know, Jason. 
Well, you're joking. 

1129
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Now here's you. 
You float the idea of the burger

1130
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,080
to Jason. 
But if you have non, if you want

1131
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:59,160
non burger Jason time, I get it.
I want you, me and Jason to go 

1132
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,840
out on a big comedy circle jerk 
at the burger place, Yes. 

1133
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,320
Yes, and I. 
We can toss around names like 

1134
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,080
Rob Brydon. 
Harry Hill The use of the word 

1135
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:14,320
Jeremy came a bit too quickly. 
I I could, could you see us 

1136
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,120
eating it? 
Like, are you someone who 

1137
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,280
doesn't like the two? 
Can I see us eating? 

1138
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,200
Yeah, I can anytime. 
I could see like AI could see 

1139
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,800
like a 5:30 PM. 
But The thing is, what time's 

1140
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,120
the football on tomorrow is it, 
isn't it? 

1141
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,560
Do you want to? 
Tottenham playing. 

1142
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,640
Do you want to watch football? 
No, I could probably look. 

1143
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,440
Listen, let's go out. 
Let's go. 

1144
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,680
I'd love that. 
I would love. 

1145
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,680
That that would be great. 
Let's do that. 

1146
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:49,200
Where I wish I could actually 
see your shoe, I wish my. 

1147
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,280
What time's yours end? 
950. 

1148
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,400
Oh yeah, I think I'll be done by
then. 

1149
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,200
I like see when see when things 
like this sync up other 

1150
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,960
comedians in other cities. 
I like that. 

1151
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,840
I hate it when I find out a 
comedian's just been in the city

1152
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,160
and I was over the same night. 
Well, Peter Kay is in. 

1153
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,160
Is he here tonight or tomorrow 
or something? 

1154
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:13,800
I know Peter. 
Is he? 

1155
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,040
Might be doing SSE. 
I think he might be here tonight

1156
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,400
or tomorrow or something, but. 
What about look, this could be a

1157
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,320
table for four Dublin. 
Dublin tomorrow night. 

1158
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:28,440
Let's get Peter along. 
This will be unbelievable. 

1159
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:33,680
Who else can we get? 
My friend Doctor Lorraine Mancy 

1160
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,920
is doing a Ted talk tomorrow. 
I was going to meet, yeah, I was

1161
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,000
going to meet her. 
I was going to meet her 

1162
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,760
afterwards, our hotel. 
She can be drafted in. 

1163
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,920
No, I'm going on a stag do on 
Sunday morning so I cannot do 

1164
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,400
anything post show. 
OK, let's have the bird. 

1165
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,680
Do you know Andrew Ryan? 
Do you know the comedian Andrew?

1166
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Ryan, I'd like to. 
That's awkward because he says 

1167
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,160
he knows you. 
He's he's also in this office. 

1168
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,760
He's gigged with you before. 
And he says he'll definitely 

1169
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,160
know me. 
He said you would definitely 

1170
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,560
know him. 
Andrew Ryan. 

1171
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Yeah. 
You don't know him because I was

1172
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,200
going to. 
I do know him. 

1173
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Who? 
What? 

1174
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,360
He supported you. 
Oh, where? 

1175
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:25,320
Andy Ryan. 
Andy, you know, Miss Andy. 

1176
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,920
So, so I was going to say, I was
going to say he's in town, he's 

1177
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,960
opening for me. 
He could have been, he could 

1178
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,160
have been part of this Bunsen 
thing. 

1179
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,800
But you know what, fuck him. 
That's what you're saying. 

1180
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,280
Look, when we finish here, I'm 
sure to be reminded I'm an old 

1181
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,640
man. 
I can't remember anything. 

1182
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,240
Just it's just us. 
Jason, Peter. 

1183
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,880
Let's get Andrew Ryan as well. 
Andy. 

1184
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,760
Andy Ryan. 
Let's get Andy Ryan. 

1185
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,040
You know what? 
I get the table for four. 

1186
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,200
Is he in the building, did you 
say? 

1187
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,560
Oh. 
Fuck yeah and show me a picture.

1188
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,000
Do you know what he said? 
You guys had gig together a long

1189
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,720
time ago and he said he won't 
remember. 

1190
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,200
He did say that, so don't worry.
Is he from round here? 

1191
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,520
He's from Cork. 
But we let them chronic, yeah, 

1192
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,840
OK. 
We let them come up OK. 

1193
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,480
I'm sure I know. 
But look, we meet so many 

1194
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,160
comments. 
We meet so many people in this 

1195
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,280
business. 
Even tomorrow night I show up 

1196
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,760
upon you might not even Remember
Me. 

1197
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,360
I will definitely remember you. 
Will you? 

1198
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,920
I would really love that. 
That'll be great. 

1199
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,880
We get Jason along. 
He's a nice guy. 

1200
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,000
The only thing they do is burger
and fries. 

1201
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,360
They don't mess around, they 
don't do anything else. 

1202
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,120
That's fine by me. 
Well, they do drinks. 

1203
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,680
Yeah, like soft. 
Drinks and fries sounds great. 

1204
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,360
What drink will you have? 
Well, I will just have to say 

1205
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,480
off any booze because I've got 
to keep this. 

1206
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,000
I don't drink, pretty sure. 
Right. 

1207
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,800
Me neither ever. 
I do like tea. 

1208
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,720
My dad was a tea taster, so for 
a living. 

1209
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,480
My dad was a tea taster for a 
living. 

1210
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,400
Like first of all, they even 
know that job exists and I don't

1211
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,320
do if I know the. 
Lens of tea, he was very keen on

1212
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,080
Assam tea, which is for strong. 
He'd like to Canyon, which is 

1213
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,160
very multi. 
Did he did he work for? 

1214
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,320
No. 
You freelance? 

1215
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,720
No, he didn't work for one of 
the big ones. 

1216
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,400
He worked for people who would 
import the tea. 

1217
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,760
And So what? 
What was his set? 

1218
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,560
Would he sit? 
He would he work from home and 

1219
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,560
do this with. 
No, no, no. 

1220
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,600
You go into town, into London. 
And his job? 

1221
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,560
He his job would be to try 
different blends of tea. 

1222
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,920
So you might have a blend of 
Assam and a salon darjeanings 

1223
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,160
champagne of teas. 
And there's people around him a 

1224
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,760
clipboard and he's that's 
correct. 

1225
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,280
And then there's that wait where
they go. 

1226
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:37,360
Oh, and he he wrote. 
By the way, that is on because 

1227
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,400
I, this is this podcast is 
called Tea with Me because 

1228
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,120
people just come, we have a cup 
of tea and we chat. 

1229
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,160
Well, tea is the tea is my 
thing. 

1230
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,080
It's, you know, growing up it 
was a big thing in the house 

1231
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,800
where my dad would make the team
like a ritual. 

1232
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,200
Of course he's going to make the
tea he made. 

1233
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,360
The tea and he'd bring it in and
it was all beautifully done, 

1234
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,520
just just the right. 
Was that a boss man's holiday 

1235
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,480
for him? 
Yeah, it probably was. 

1236
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,600
And he used to get my brother to
do it. 

1237
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,280
It was useless at it. 
And what, you know, and he would

1238
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,160
be sort of my brother be 
watching the telly next to the 

1239
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,720
radiator. 
My dad would go. 

1240
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,360
Can you, Michael, can you go 
make the tea now? 

1241
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,000
Yeah. 
All right. 

1242
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,480
In a minute. 
Can you go make the tea? 

1243
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,320
And it was never as good, but it
was the crowning glory. 

1244
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,600
Of course, nowadays, me and the 
wife, we're on the, you know, 

1245
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,480
glass of wine. 
It's not quite the same thing, 

1246
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,040
but yeah. 
So tea. 

1247
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,560
I will. 
I'll drink a lot of tea. 

1248
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,480
I drink a lot of water. 
Stillwater have. 

1249
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,800
You ever had a cup of berries, 
Barry? 

1250
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,360
You ever been on the Barry's 
Gold? 

1251
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,520
What's that? 
It's it's a bland. 

1252
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:30,800
It's a. 
Barry Tea. 

1253
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:31,920
Barry's. 
I don't. 

1254
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,160
We don't. 
I don't have tea bags in the 

1255
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,120
house. 
Do you understand? 

1256
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,640
Loose leaf only. 
I won't have that. 

1257
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,000
Kicking off a little bit here, 
what do you mean you won't have 

1258
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:42,320
tea? 
Oh, you. 

1259
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,160
Loose leaf. 
Loose leaf, definitely, yeah. 

1260
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,280
Do you know what? 
I bow down because I I respect 

1261
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,000
that so much. 
It's so much, tastes so much 

1262
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:50,600
nicer. 
Honestly, you can't taste the 

1263
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,680
you can taste the paper with a 
Barry's tea. 

1264
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,560
Have you tried tea with me? 
His own Hollywood. 

1265
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,240
We have our own look. 
I'd love to try it. 

1266
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,360
There's one I'd. 
Love to try, is it an orthodox 

1267
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,240
tea I mean or has have the 
leaves been chopped? 

1268
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,040
Orthodox is the larger leaf. 
Well, it's, you know, you have 

1269
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:11,920
to find out. 
Look at that fair trade we made.

1270
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,440
We made our own tea to sell it 
live show. 

1271
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,840
That's in the tea bag though, 
isn't it? 

1272
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,720
Yeah, so you can RIP it open. 
Can I take my? 

1273
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,880
Yeah, please. 
Sure. 

1274
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,800
Yeah, absolutely. 
Just a second. 

1275
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,640
I'm just gonna. 
Oh no. 

1276
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,440
Yeah, I got you. 
Yeah, I know. 

1277
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,720
I know what you're doing there. 
Right. 

1278
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:37,960
Let's have a. 
What are you? 

1279
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:47,680
What are you getting there? 
Cheeky, very cheeky. 

1280
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,000
Yeah. 
It's oh God, it's an attempt, 

1281
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,560
you know, whether it's whether 
it will hold muster, I don't 

1282
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,240
know. 
It's perfunctory as we. 

1283
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,240
What we we said Who's doing 
perfunctory tea? 

1284
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,560
Nobody. 
No one is. 

1285
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,600
And we decided if you fill the 
market, but look, yeah. 

1286
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,120
It's it's not it's it's not. 
The champagne of teas. 

1287
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,160
It's it's a pomain of teas, 
isn't it? 

1288
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,720
It's the leave frown milch of 
teas. 

1289
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,040
This isn't it? 
Leave frown milch. 

1290
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,480
Never heard of. 
See, that is a. 

1291
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960
That's another 80s reference 
that none of you people would 

1292
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,680
get. 
Was he a actor? 

1293
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,000
It's a type of wine. 
It's a cheap wine from Germany. 

1294
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,120
Leave. 
From Milch. 

1295
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Leave frown MILF. 
I like that I, you know what I'm

1296
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,600
saying, big shooter I I got in 
the red wine for a bit and then 

1297
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,920
I just. 
I The problem is I I bloody love

1298
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,720
drinking. 
I love it would. 

1299
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,200
You do. 
You want to come on a stag doing

1300
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,720
something? 
Oh, bitters. 

1301
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,640
The burger goes well and the 
show goes well. 

1302
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,280
Meet me at Dublin Airport at 
7:00 AM. 

1303
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,640
Well. 
I do, I The thing is no like a 

1304
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,480
glass of wine and all that. 
So I bet you know, Rounder at 

1305
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,720
your Yacht Club and all that, 
they go for all that, sort of. 

1306
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Well, I'm in that like they 
don't let me back there. 

1307
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,680
I just. 
Want to because you RIP the piss

1308
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,200
out of. 
Themselves. 

1309
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,040
No, no, no really. 
But I just, I only worked there 

1310
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,000
like I, you know, so I'm not 
like in that in that scenario or

1311
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,720
anything. 
OK, I just drink tea in the 

1312
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,240
house do. 
You know Rory o'hanlon? 

1313
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,960
Yes. 
Now he does, and this is not 

1314
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,960
pissing on your chips, but he 
does. 

1315
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,920
A better tea, no? 
He does that character. 

1316
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,240
I just want to jump on guys. 
Have you seen that? 

1317
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:40,600
Guy, That's right. 
And he supported me, Rory and I 

1318
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,120
really, really love. 
He's a fantastic. 

1319
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,840
Comedian. 
He's a joke machine. 

1320
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,640
He's a joke machine. 
He's brilliant. 

1321
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,160
But that reminds me of that, 
that character he does, which is

1322
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,680
now really taken off. 
Yeah, he does an Irish TV show, 

1323
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,120
doesn't he? 
Doesn't he's need like a sort 

1324
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,520
of, I've seen footage of him on 
RTE or something. 

1325
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,120
Yeah, doing a little bit of 
mistake about it and and I've 

1326
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,400
seen his views have gone up and 
his followers and all that 

1327
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,080
stuff. 
But I just love. 

1328
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:06,960
Him. 
Why do you have a burger with 

1329
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,680
him tomorrow night there? 
Maybe he's around too. 

1330
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,640
Why don't we ask him to come? 
I don't think there's room for 

1331
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,800
two guys who do Posh character, 
OK. 

1332
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,360
That's what I mean. 
I didn't mean to say that. 

1333
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,880
Very strong, Very, very strong 
material. 

1334
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,880
Look, I think I think this could
be beautiful tomorrow and almost

1335
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,160
if it doesn't, if you if it 
doesn't work, I the even the 

1336
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,760
idea of it is enough for me. 
It is going to work. 

1337
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,720
I'm going to make it work. 
Yeah. 

1338
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,120
And if not, if you're ever it's.
Going to work while we're saying

1339
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:42,480
if not. 
If you back out, we'll meet up 

1340
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,320
in in London or something. 
I would love that. 

1341
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,240
Great. 
This is this has been great. 

1342
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,760
I wish I could see the show, I 
will say. 

1343
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,720
You will see the show. 
I would love to see the show 

1344
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,400
because I'm a huge fan. 
Thank you I. 

1345
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,680
Can see your show? 
Where can I see yours? 

1346
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,360
What if instead of doing our own
shows tonight, you go see my 

1347
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,200
show? 
I will see yours. 

1348
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,400
I'd love that. 
My tour, My tour's kind of over.

1349
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,080
Oh, but did you ever come over 
and do the circuit over? 

1350
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,720
Not, not as much. 
I tend to tour quite a lot of 

1351
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,800
the year and then I'll do the 
clubs here. 

1352
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:21,359
Here's a thing, I am doing my 
show that I book at the 100 

1353
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,160
Club. 
In London, I've never played 

1354
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,319
there. 
The 100 Club in in Oxford St, 

1355
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:29,160
100 Oxford St every buggers, you
know, like the Stones played 

1356
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,319
there, the Sex Pistols, all that
sort of stuff. 

1357
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:36,720
Very nice, low, sweaty, nice low
ceiling untouched since 1947. 

1358
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,479
I mean, you know, filthy, but a 
lovely, lovely place for a gig. 

1359
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,279
I. 
Was actually sorry, that was 

1360
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:43,920
actually my granny's date and 
bio for a while. 

1361
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,560
Low ceiling. 
Would you like? 

1362
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,880
Would you like to appear in it? 
And I'm not talking about your 

1363
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,240
granny. 
Would need that grave though. 

1364
01:08:55,399 --> 01:09:01,920
Oh, sorry. 
I am I, I would love to. 

1365
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,920
It's a date. 
We can have a date tomorrow but 

1366
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,080
also please come and do my. 
I would not have. 

1367
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,640
September 100 Club, Oxford St. 
I would love to do that. 

1368
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,359
Yeah, great. 
OK, that's put me in. 

1369
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,120
Great, great. 
Porn. 

1370
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,920
OK. 
Is this you winding up now? 

1371
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,479
Yeah, I can tell. 
Yeah. 

1372
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,160
Yeah. 
Winding up now. 

1373
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,439
Thank you very much for for 
coming on, especially on David 

1374
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,200
Shore. 
I really appreciate. 

1375
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,279
That it's great to be here. 
Thank. 

1376
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:27,800
You. 
Thank you. 

1377
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,240
I don't know, I'm buying at you,
but. 

1378
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,680
Namaste, please namaste. 
Thank you.

