1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Prime Big Deal days is coming October 8th and 9th, which can 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,680 lead to involuntary deal squeals like the infamous deal on a new 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,920 massager squeal. Save big on prime Big Deal days 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:21,960 October 8th and 9th. Hello Zippers and welcome to 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,680 Hello Traveller. Hello seppers. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Welcome to this week's Tea With Me podcast with me, she and Todd 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Big Mike just fiddling knobs there. 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,640 As per this week on the podcast, I'm interviewing Steven Watson. 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,560 You will know Steven Watson from BBC Sport. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,200 He covers football cycle and rugby. 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,560 If there's a sport, you can't see it because he's got it 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,760 covered. Steven is someone who has had a 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,680 kidney transplant last year, his second never kidney transplant. 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,640 I don't know anything about kidney transplant. 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,000 So I'm going to speak to him about transplantation. 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,120 And I don't know if that is the word that sort of covers 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,200 transplants, transplantation, but I think it does. 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Mike, do you think it does transplant thing transponsting? 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,160 You know, it's one of those things anyway, although I think 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,360 transponting is the capital of Bulgaria, but hey, it's all 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,920 good. We're going to chat about that. 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,760 We chatted about ice lollies big if you want showbiz exclusives, 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,120 we got it. You also know I do an impression 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Stephen Watson OK, and is it disrespectful? 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,640 Potentially, potentially, but he's a great sport. 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,840 So when I say Stephen Watson here, live at Windsor Park, 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Lentorum 3 Ledfield 1, you know it's all good because he thinks 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,400 it's funny and maybe he doesn't, but he does a good job of 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,600 looking like he finds it vaguely funny. 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:57,840 We also talk about The Smiths and Marcy and his love for all 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,520 things that he does. And we talk about Morris 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Morrissey's really weird leisure centre tour of Northern Ireland 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,520 that he did a couple years ago, which I didn't think was a real 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,960 thing. And then I find that it kind of, 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,520 it actually is the thing. And I didn't say this on the 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,800 podcast, but my lips are sore. I've got cracked lips and I 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,160 don't know why. And maybe because it's getting 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,320 cold and it was cold this morning and maybe that's why it 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,520 is, but I don't like it. I hear it and I put, umm, CarMax 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,720 on and it makes worse. So I don't know what to do. 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,560 Don't put it on half cracked lips. 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Put it on and they look better. But it is sore and I've got 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,160 cuts. I just want to say this. 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,960 I've got cuts all over my body. I burnt, I burnt my thumb on the 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,600 iron. I did that. 46 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,000 So what? You mean it's the weirdest shape 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 ever? How do you show someone the back 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,960 of your thumb? All right, I've got that. 49 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,960 That's what it is. OK. 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,120 But I still did the podcast Despite that. 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,280 I've got a cut on my leg from football and I think I've got to 52 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,040 cut somewhere else. So I'm caught up, but I'm still 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,840 here for you guys. I'm still doing the podcast. 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,800 It's tea with me. It's a Stephen Watson episode. 55 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:10,200 We're talking about organs. OK, We're talking about organs. 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,640 We're talking about his journey, umm, through getting a new 57 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:20,120 kidney, what that means health wise, what it was like to to 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,240 receive that and the work that he's doing to sort of provide 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,960 more awareness about organ transplantation. 60 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:31,000 So check that out. Also, just before we start the 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,320 podcast, if you would like to do a big favour, you could read and 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,240 review Tea with Me on Apple Podcasts. 63 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,280 You give it away, 5 star review and say something really nice. 64 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,840 That'll be great. And that goes a long way and I 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,440 sure would appreciate that. But in the meantime, just keep 66 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,560 listening. You want to see the video 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,800 version of this on YouTube, Just type Tea with Me or go on my 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,320 channel, She and Todd. And the audio version is 69 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,000 available anywhere you get your podcast. 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Just search Tea with me. This is the Tea with Me episode 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:10,280 for Steven Watson. Steven Newman, second never 72 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,320 guest on the podcast. Delighted. 73 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,200 I felt embarrassed bringing you up to the office because we've 74 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,160 got a little bit of a flight up in situation outside, but we're 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,680 inside now and we're all good. It's nice and cosy, it's comfy, 76 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,880 we've got tea, it's good. Let me speak to you about tea 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,040 first of all. Do you drink tea often? 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,640 Are you like begging the tea or your casual drinker? 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,480 There's no judgments here. Massive tea drinker, drink tea 80 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,600 all the time. So it's like how many cups a. 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Day. Yeah, yeah, a lot. 82 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,680 Oh, at least 8 to 10 cups of tea A. 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Day been serious? Yes No recently I've moved on to 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 the hot chocolate because because of my because of my 85 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,280 medical situation, I wasn't able to to eat or drink chocolate for 86 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,680 about 3 1/2 years. Right now that it's open to me, 87 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,040 yes, flat out on the hot chocolate. 88 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,280 So you still on the 8 to 10 teas and hot chocolate? 89 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,360 No, no, probably. Probably 8 to 10 hot chocolate, 90 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,040 but no coffee anymore, right? Gone right off coffee. 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,680 Used to be a big latte drinker but not anymore. 92 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,760 See, and the opposite I I've always been tea like like 93 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,680 complete purist for for the tea. English breakfast or herbals? 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,800 English breakfast. Yeah, I I drink a bit of lemon 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,280 and ginger tea too sometimes. Sometimes one of the worst 96 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,920 things we're going to the States is sometimes you ask for even if 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,440 you ask for a breakfast tea. Rotten. 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,160 Yeah. Or grey. 99 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,720 Yeah, it's rotten. Which is just like a bath. 100 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,000 You tried Earl Grey with milk in it. 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Yeah, it's like a bath. I was in New York a couple of 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,440 weeks ago. I ordered a English breakfast 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,000 tea. I could, you know, in your 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,200 order. And you know they're going to 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,360 get it wrong. You just. 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,880 I could tell by her face. And then I order English 107 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,600 breakfast tea with almond milk. Took one step of it at the 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,040 counter, Earl Grey just left it and walked out. 109 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,520 Yeah, I would. I would do, I would do the same 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,720 thing. Tea bags with you. 111 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,760 That's the. That's the key. 112 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,520 And then here's the other thing. I was in maybe it was Chicago a 113 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,640 couple of months ago and I ordered a breakfast tea and the 114 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,600 guy wouldn't give him it for a couple of minutes. 115 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,400 He goes, we've got a three second brew here. 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,880 You make a tea right now. So if the 10, do you think you 117 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,080 drink more tea just because you're working TV? 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,000 You're used to sort of just being offered tea in between 119 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,800 breaks and stuff like that. Possibly. 120 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,720 Possibly. Yes. 121 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,960 And if you're out meeting people and you have to sit and oh, what 122 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,160 do you want, I'll have a cup of tea. 123 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Yeah. We can't sit down and talk to 124 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,320 someone without having a cup of tea sauce or a cup of coffee or 125 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,560 whatever. Or paint, depending where you 126 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,040 are. Yeah. 127 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,760 So this is is this the day off for you? 128 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,320 This is not a day off for me, no. 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Is your days off? Oh yes, there's there are days 130 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,880 off. Yes, of course there are days 131 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 off and occasionally. Because I will be in. 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,960 I mean, I've only ever seen you in a suit because I see you on 133 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,400 TV and I feel I was like, is this a day off? 134 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,720 Maybe your day off is just not the tie. 135 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,360 No, I just didn't put the tie on this morning, but I've got the 136 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,280 tie in the car with the with the jacket to put back on. 137 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,920 I mean, I could have come on a hoodie. 138 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,920 I had a hoodie on this morning and like walking quite a lot at 139 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,520 the minutes we'll go out walking hood. 140 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,080 Up and down. No, Oh no, no. 141 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Hood up, hood up, add on, snood up. 142 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,720 Look, look, look like a gangster. 143 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Who dance? Snooze. 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,560 Yeah. Yeah, who dance snooze. 145 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,280 So that's just you're just all you see the eyes. 146 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:09,440 Yeah, all you see is the eyes. I frighten people actually say 147 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,600 good morning to people and they they look at me. 148 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,480 So I have to drop this new sometimes say hello. 149 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Through their letterbox and are you fully back at work because I 150 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,240 want to, I want to chat about you mentioned your health 151 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,520 condition. Umm, you had a not your second 152 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,360 condition. I did indeed. 153 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,360 I'm very, although I think I look very educated. 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,600 Really. Yes. 155 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,760 People look at me and go, that guy has been from Oxford, 156 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Cambridge, around. The block. 157 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Yes. Well, not, no, not around the 158 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,560 block. People think, people think I'm a 159 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,640 scholar. Really. 160 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Yes, I went to Belfast Met, but people look at me and go like I 161 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,520 knows a thing or two, OK and. Then say so. 162 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,440 No, my HND speak for themselves, but I don't know anything about 163 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,640 transplants. But I was, well, I mean, I mean, 164 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,760 I get the idea. I get the logic of what they're 165 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,360 trying to do. But I remember like years and 166 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,880 years before I met you. I remember because my dad was a 167 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,640 motorbike racer, my uncle was motorbike racer. 168 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,040 My uncle knew you, Colin Todd. Yes, yeah. 169 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Just from you covering all the races and that kind of thing. 170 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:19,080 And there's a long way around this story, but I remember my 2 171 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,560 talents whenever I was a child were number one was catching 172 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,920 grapes in my mouth. Right. 173 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Green, green or purple? Very good. 174 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,640 Whatever height you throw it to, I can catch it. 175 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Petty We didn't have some. Well, I mean, it's it's an 176 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 insert maybe we can do we can go get go to the fruit shop at the 177 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,159 break. And then my other talent was 178 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,440 didn't do an impression of you. Yeah, I know, I've heard it. 179 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:45,440 Which is a niche talent, but honestly, no one's no one's 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,920 coming close to my Stephen Watson impression. 181 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,800 I think it's pretty good. Actually, you know what? 182 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,080 That I was a lonely child growing up because how did I 183 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,440 figure out I could do it? That's worrying. 184 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,880 It is worrying, very worrying and I remember being taken to a 185 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,000 race and you were walking around the paddock. 186 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,240 I think you had the camera crew with you and my uncle brought me 187 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,200 over to you. You probably don't remember this 188 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,680 do. I don't actually remember this, 189 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:08,200 no. And then he said, do your do 190 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,600 impression. Now you're to be fair, you're 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,320 working at the time. I think you might have been on 192 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,280 camera and I did that for you. And then I remember not long 193 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,200 after that, umm, reading about or hearing about your first 194 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,680 kidney transplant. And then you had one, like, was 195 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,000 it last year? I had 1-4 months ago yesterday. 196 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,800 So I have a lot of questions because I don't know anything 197 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,040 about. I know, I know what they're 198 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,920 trying to do. Save your life. 199 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Yes, and they're trying to take an organ from someone else, 200 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:37,520 correct? And put it in you. 201 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,960 So why in the 1st place you know I'm asking, did you need to have 202 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,400 a kidney transplant? When I was 17 or 18 I went to 203 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,720 give blood the blood transfusion unit. 204 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,080 They found out I was a bit anaemic so they couldn't take my 205 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,120 blood. So I had to go and get it 206 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,880 checked out which. Anaemic is what? 207 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Yes, low, low, low blood, low blood count. 208 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,840 So I went and got it checked out after, you know, a couple of 209 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,880 weeks of saying, look, we can't take your blood to find out that 210 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,240 actually it wasn't anything to do with my blood. 211 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,240 It was actually, I had kidney problems so quickly, I, I, I 212 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,920 realised they realised that both of my kidneys actually weren't 213 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,120 formed properly at birth. They were deteriorating. 214 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Now back then, when I was a teenager, I really didn't feel 215 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,120 unwell. I didn't think I felt unwell. 216 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,280 My mum just thought I was a lazy student sleeping the clock 217 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,120 round, you know, put the, put the three bar fire on, pretend 218 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,520 to do your revision but falls right. 219 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,440 So that, but basically it's because I needed a new kidney 220 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,640 and, and after I had the first kidney transplant, which I got 221 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:37,040 from my dad 30 years ago this month, I felt unbelievably 222 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,920 different. And I realised looking back that 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,800 I was so lacking in energy and didn't feel well, et cetera, et 224 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,360 cetera, et cetera. That it not to that scale, but 225 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,600 I've talked in the podcast for so I've, I've Crohn's disease. 226 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,920 Yeah, I had a thing after, after having a really bad virus, after 227 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,920 I got out of hospital for about a year, maybe between 10 months 228 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,480 and 12 months, I felt like I had a hangover. 229 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,640 I just like, yeah, lethargic exactly hard. 230 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,160 But it wasn't until I felt better that I realised how bad I 231 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,600 had felt before. Exactly, exactly the same. 232 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Time. I didn't, I didn't. 233 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,600 I had no. Idea no. 234 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,600 I used to play a lot of golf, obviously, and I was always 235 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,800 lagging behind my friends a little. 236 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,520 I got to the 14th or 15th hole and was always feeling 237 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,240 exhausted. We played at Ballycastle golf 238 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,480 clubs, got a big hill, walking off the caravan park where we 239 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,760 stayed. I was always knackered. 240 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,200 Welcome back up there looking back. 241 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,720 But once they had the transplant and live donation at that time 242 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,520 was quite was quite new. So for me to get the kidney from 243 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,680 my dad as a live donor was a kind of a new thing back then, 244 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:36,800 so. Before that, would they need to 245 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,800 have like a body essentially? A deceased, the deceased donor 246 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,840 programme, that means a deceased donor and the deceased donor 247 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,400 programme still is very, very important that people leave 248 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,120 their organs after they die and save a lot of people's lives. 249 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,400 But now with especially within the last 10 or 15 years, the 250 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,440 live donation programme has completely and utterly 251 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,480 revolutionised transplantation. So if they did say 30 252 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,720 transplants a year and normally now they're doing over 100, 253 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,880 perhaps 130 transplants a year because of the life donation 254 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,680 scheme. So when when your dad gave you 255 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,480 the kidney, how like did everyone in your family like a 256 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,400 tester straight away? Was your dad like? 257 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,880 I didn't know anything about it to be honest. 258 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,960 And I was up having cheques in the hospital and I met my mum 259 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,360 and dad by chance in the hospital. 260 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,560 I said what, what are you doing here? 261 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:21,800 So when my dad first said, well, look, I've been tested to give 262 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,960 you a kidney, I said a flat no, absolutely no way. 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,840 I couldn't put you through it. And eventually he sort of sat me 264 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,360 down and said, look, if you don't take my kidney, when 265 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,840 another one does become available for you, you're going 266 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,680 to deny somebody else the chance of, of having their life saved. 267 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:38,280 So I said, OK, that kind of put me in my place. 268 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,200 And I thought, yes, that I will accept, accept the kidney. 269 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,960 So it was a tough time for my family, obviously, because, you 270 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,840 know, my dad and I were both in hospital at the same time. 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,280 But that kidney lasted me. They had the guts of almost 30 272 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,880 years. And it was only in in recent 273 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,200 times that it actually started to deteriorate and fail. 274 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,240 Is is there when you actually get that kidney transplant? 275 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,160 How long before they know? Like, yeah, everything's fine. 276 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,320 I mean, almost immediately they'll know if the kidney is 277 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,640 taken or not, but within the first three to six months are 278 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,080 the kind of crucial period because your immune system is so 279 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,280 low to basically fool your body that the kidneys part of you and 280 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,240 not somebody else, then you can pick up a lot of infection. 281 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,120 There's still risk of rejection. And but Touchwood say I've had 282 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,560 my new one for four months now and I'm and I'm. 283 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,560 Feeling great, do you know who your new one? 284 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,680 Came, I don't know, I just know it was anonymous donor and I 285 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,200 know he was from Northern Ireland and that's kind of 286 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,000 Steven. You're welcome. 287 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,840 No, no, no. He was older than you. 288 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,480 He was older than you. But as I said, the live donation 289 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,600 programme, so it used to be that you could really only accept the 290 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,320 kidney from say you know, your husband or wife or your mom and 291 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,720 your dad, not not really from a friend. 292 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,720 But now the way the programme works is if you say you'll give 293 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,240 me a kidney, I'll line you up for my next one if I ever need 294 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,680 one. But if you say you can give me a 295 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:55,000 kidney and you don't match me, I can put you in the kidney 296 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,480 sharing pool and you will never donate until I get a kidney out 297 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,280 of the pool. So on this occasion, I had an 298 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,320 anonymous donor who I put in the pool and then that person ended 299 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,080 up donating to someone else and I got a kidney from out of the 300 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,120 pool. So that's that's just. 301 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Picturing a load of really nice people in a swimming pool. 302 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Not that kind of pool, but it's a UK wide sharing scheme. 303 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,040 But that's amazing that there are people who are just up for 304 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,600 giving their. It's incredible. 305 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,760 We, we made a documentary last year, but to celebrate 15 years, 306 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,080 the renal unit in Northern Ireland. 307 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,080 And, and I obviously then was persuaded to do an interview 308 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,120 with, with Stephen Nolan on his TV programme, which it was very 309 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,360 reticent about to have to say because I didn't really want to 310 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,360 highlight my own situation. But I was able to go and tell 311 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,920 the story about the live donation scheme. 312 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,600 And off the back of those two things, 170 odd people came 313 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,720 forward to donate kidneys to strangers. 314 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Not, not, not to me, to strangers. 315 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,280 And because of that programme, they will know probably by the 316 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,000 end of February or March have completed 25 kidney transplants 317 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,520 from people who are donating to strangers, which it absolutely 318 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,880 blew me away. I mean, I was in having my 319 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,160 kidney transplant this time I met a man on the ward who 320 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,560 introduced himself to me. His name was Brian. 321 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,920 And he said, I just wanted to know I've donated a kidney. 322 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,280 I said, oh, it's amazing. He said a couple of days ago, I 323 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,840 said incredible. He said no, but I want to tell 324 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,920 you why. He said because I saw your 325 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,440 programme, I saw your interview and you inspired me to do it, 326 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,960 which I was completely, oh, listen, I was, I was very 327 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,840 emotional about it. And I mean, if it made a 328 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,040 difference to one person's life, yeah, then it was worth doing. 329 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,920 I think, well, I think that was, I saw that normal interview and 330 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,640 yeah, it was very clear that it wasn't. 331 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,240 Dare to talk about yourself. No, I didn't want to be seen 332 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,560 that I'm I'm going to ask for a for a kidney. 333 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,240 I wanted the kind of everybody who needs a kidney transplant 334 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,280 because highlight the scheme. Like, I don't, I don't think I 335 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,480 have that modesty. Like if I, if I got a second 336 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:52,360 kidney, I'm on Nolan. I'm asking for a national day, 337 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,360 you know? But yeah, I mean, I saw the 338 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,760 documentary at the time as well. And the, the whole idea of organ 339 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,440 donation always takes me back to my Auntie Sandra, who's who's 340 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,880 passed away now. But whenever she was signed up 341 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,960 to become an organ donor, So she, she knew that she was 342 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,400 coming to the end of her life and she wanted to, to sign up 343 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,080 to, to be an organ donor. And she was filming at the forum 344 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,880 and she was like, yes, you know, happy that they were going 345 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,440 through the checklist of what you'd be happy to give. 346 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,000 And she was like, yes, everything, yes, fine, no 347 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,680 problem. Eyes No. 348 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,080 I see I. Was very I. 349 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,120 Was the same, totally the same, but not anymore. 350 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,080 I would. I wouldn't Care now, but when I 351 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,640 first signed the card I was the same. 352 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,560 I no, I don't see the logic in that because like this is maybe 353 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,400 a notion that, you know, if people believe in an afterlife 354 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,720 that they would like to have their eyes. 355 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,040 What afterlife is it where you don't need anything else inside? 356 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,640 That's a fairpoint. I don't know what I remember 357 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,960 once we were making a, a, a documentary about a rugby player 358 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 and we were filming his cruciate ligament operation. 359 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,320 It was Jeremy Davison, the, the, the British Lions and Irish 360 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,320 rugby player. And I remember having to come, 361 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,840 I, I had to come out of the operating theatre. 362 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,360 I couldn't watch anymore. It was too brutal for me. 363 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,600 And I met one of the surgeons and he said, oh, isn't it? 364 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,240 I said, I, I'm, I'm an eye surgeon. 365 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,720 And he said, believe me, all the students that come in here, if I 366 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,640 have 15 of them, two of them will be standing. 367 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,680 The first time I operate in an eye. 368 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:10,680 There's just something about eyes. 369 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,119 Yes, Oh, even putting putting eye drops in, I can't, I can't, 370 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,920 I can't, I can't, definitely can't watch people put eye drops 371 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,800 in. But yeah, I thought the, the the 372 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,720 programme was amazing and, and people like, I mean, I don't 373 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,920 know anything about it. I mean, Big Mike will know 374 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,160 absolutely nothing about transplants either. 375 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:33,080 But I think for for people like me as well that have like no 376 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,160 knowledge of that, it does make you way more interested in in 377 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,920 being an organ donor. Yeah, well, I, I just hope by 378 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840 highlighting it that especially the live donation scheme, that 379 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,480 it would make people set up and realise, look, you only need one 380 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,960 kidney to live, you don't need 2. 381 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,880 So if there are people out there who would consider actually 382 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,040 walking into the City Hospital and donating a kidney, yes, it's 383 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,080 a big decision. It's not anywhere as near a big, 384 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:57,280 big an operation as it used to be. 385 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,000 And make that mean my dad was opened up basically 180° the 386 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,120 whole way around to take the kidney out. 387 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,520 It's not like that anymore. They take them out by keyhole. 388 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,200 It's a fairly straightforward operation. 389 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,480 You're only in hospital a couple of days, you know, 6 to 8 weeks 390 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,240 recovery and you're absolutely, absolutely. 391 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Fine how? How big is it like compared to a 392 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,960 fruit? Oh, I mean, it depends. 393 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,200 A kidney could be maybe the size of a large orange. 394 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,200 But then those, there was a man in hospital who had polycystic 395 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,080 kidneys had a problem when I was in hospital and one of his 396 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,800 kidneys was 3 or 4 KGS to be taken out. 397 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,440 All right, So, but that's, that's obviously abnormal. 398 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,200 But yeah, they're probably the size of a the size of a large 399 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,640 orange, something like that. But you so the I mean the first 400 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,080 time you needed a kidney, what was the difference in how much 401 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,960 you needed one the second time? Because exactly, exactly the 402 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,720 same mean, exactly the same. The first time I only had 403 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,480 dialysis for a short time to get me ready for the operation and 404 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,320 then then obviously had the kidney from my dad. 405 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,360 Second time my kidney started going downhill, so it was only 406 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:00,360 operating sort of 5 or 6%. So I had to obviously had 407 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:02,200 dialysis, which I had for 18 months. 408 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,120 And you're still working. Still working. 409 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,920 I was determined that even though I wasn't feeling the 410 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,680 best, that I was just going to work completely the whole way 411 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,280 through. So I had 4-5 hour sessions of 412 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,280 dialysis a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday 413 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,960 mornings early and then went into work after that. 414 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,720 But then I was, I was away working quite a lot as well. 415 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,440 So I mean, I was determined I wasn't going to miss the 416 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,160 Masters, which is the greatest sporting world. 417 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,320 So I had two sessions of dialysis in America. 418 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,080 I had two sessions at the Ryder Cup, I had two sessions at the 419 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,640 Open in Scotland. I had in the Isle of Man, I had 420 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,440 it in Portugal, I had it anywhere I could get it, I would 421 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,720 take. It I mean, if I have a cold, I'm 422 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,760 taking a month off I'm. I was determined that I wasn't 423 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,560 going to and I didn't. I didn't miss any any. 424 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,680 I didn't miss a day's work when I was on dialysis. 425 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,400 And I realised that's not possible for everybody. 426 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,640 Yeah. But do you think that has an 427 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,560 effect overall on your body and every, you know, if you do go 428 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,920 right, I'm just getting on with this. 429 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,400 Do you think your body almost like picks up on that and goes? 430 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,280 I think your mind does. Yeah. 431 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,400 I think it probably keeps, it certainly kept me. 432 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,320 It kept me going. I, I couldn't have sat in the 433 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 house and, you know, going for five hours dialysis. 434 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,160 And then go home and lie down for another 5 yards. 435 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,560 That's just not me. I wanted to keep going and prove 436 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,880 that you can still on dialysis. Not I wouldn't call it a normal 437 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,680 life, but you can still lead a healthy life and still still do 438 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,560 your do your job. When you did the interview on 439 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,400 Nolan, am I right in saying you at that point you didn't know if 440 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,120 you got? No, I was on dialysis at that 441 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,480 point. I was doing the dialysis. 442 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,640 You weren't sure? No, I wasn't. 443 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,320 I wasn't sure. I only found out probably just 444 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,840 before last summer that I was that they'd found a match for me 445 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,960 and it was a it was a one in a million kidney because normally 446 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,040 you have to have the same blood group and obviously the tissue 447 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,560 typing has to be the same. And but this kidney wasn't the 448 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,240 same blood group as me, but they were able to treat me. 449 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,920 And they give you a thing called plasma exchange. 450 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,880 Sounds pretty gruesome, but it's not really. 451 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520 They basically take your blood out of your body, take the 452 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720 plasma out of the blood, take the antibodies out of the 453 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,720 plasma, put the plasma back in your blood, and then your 454 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,840 antibodies are low enough to accept the transplant. 455 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,840 You started that would basically, I mean, when you sell 456 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,440 plasma exchange, I thought you'd bring your TV in and you got a 457 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:12,240 new one back, you know, but you like what would what would have 458 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,200 another if you had to wait another month? 459 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040 I've been on dialysis. I mean, I could have stayed on 460 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,880 dialysis probably for I would imagine you could stay on it for 461 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,280 10 years if you really, really had to. 462 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,160 I was on it for, you know, 18-19 months something. 463 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,480 Is that doing you damage when you're on that? 464 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,640 It's not doing you the world of good. 465 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,480 I mean, your your kidneys are given you dialysis 24 hours a 466 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,960 day. I was only getting five hours 467 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,200 dialysis, you know, every every other day basically. 468 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,400 So that's kind of that kind of. So no, it's not great. 469 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,680 It's not great that your bloods taken out of your body, put in 470 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,480 the machine, cleaned and put back in again. 471 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,920 So you don't want to be doing that all the time. 472 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:44,560 I realise there are people who are not eligible for a 473 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,280 transplant, so dialysis is going to keep them alive for as long 474 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,480 as they're as long as they're here. 475 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,920 So you're here but all all that stuff, but I don't think with 476 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,960 the actual reality. Yeah. 477 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,960 So some people are eligible for a transplant and some people 478 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,800 aren't because some people aren't well enough, obviously, 479 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,640 to have the operation. But thankfully I was the death 480 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,920 has kept me going. I was I was well enough to have 481 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,520 a accept the kidney. So but I'd say I'm O negative 482 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,160 blood group, but I got AB negative kidney, which is 483 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,560 incredible, right? I mean, I did ask them how did 484 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,000 they find out that they can actually give different blood 485 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,200 group kidneys? Because like you can't just give 486 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,440 a chance and they said Japan and because Japan don't believe in 487 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,360 leaving your organs when you die, they're all about live 488 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,920 transplantation. So they did one by accident and 489 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,160 they found out that it worked, and then they went, why did that 490 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,120 work? I mean, that's such a great 491 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:34,360 thing, but that. But anyway, that's, I mean, it's 492 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:37,200 opened up, you know, a whole new Ave for completing successful 493 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,720 transplants, which is great. And yeah, I mean, I guess you 494 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,640 would have to just continue to work if you can, the sort of 495 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,920 stub. Yeah, and it might have come to, 496 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,560 it might have come to the stage where you know, you couldn't, 497 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,920 you couldn't have, you know, you could, you had, it might have to 498 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,760 stop working. And but it kept it kept me 499 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,040 going, which was which was great. 500 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,440 So. Without getting too deep, do did 501 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,360 you have to think about things like were you when you were 502 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,280 doing dialysis and you were going on the journey? 503 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,080 Did you think there's going to be grandeur as everything's 504 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840 going to be fine? I did, I did. 505 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,880 I had great faith in the, I mean the Belfast City Hospital are 506 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 world leaders in transplantation without a shadow of a doubt. 507 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,080 They do more live transplants per head of population than 508 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,960 anywhere else in the world. And I mean Northern Ireland are 509 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,440 making headlines in that field across the world. 510 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,400 What they've done recently because of this, the amount of 511 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,160 altruistic donors that have come forward, I mean, IE donating to 512 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,960 strangers, that's making waves in transplantation across the UK 513 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,880 because all their units are saying how are you doing so many 514 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,360 of these altruistic, you know, donors and they, they are 515 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:41,120 amazing people up there. So I actually always put my 516 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:42,720 faith in them that they would get me a kidney. 517 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,080 I didn't really think about the mortality of it all until 518 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,960 probably went on the Nolan show and he asked the surgeon he was 519 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,880 on there how long he got the live and he went out probably 520 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,360 another 10 years. I was maybe doesn't get a 521 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,720 kidney. So, yeah, so I hadn't actually 522 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,440 thought about it up to that point, but I thought about it 523 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,680 then. But I look, I because I'd had 30 524 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,480 years of successful transplant, I never forgot I had a kidney 525 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,360 transplant during that time. But you know, I lived life to 526 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:08,880 the full. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 527 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,280 After, you know, after I had my first transplant, you won't 528 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,360 remember this place, but maybe some people listening to this. 529 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,400 Well, the Crescent. Do you ever remember the 530 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,600 Crescent? No, what a what a bar nightclub 531 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,080 that was. Well, was it in Sandy Row? 532 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,840 Oh, what a place it was the student hangout and just around 533 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,160 the corner with spuds. You ever go to sleeping? 534 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,360 The spuds my an old friend of mine from school his my own 535 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,760 spuds ark. But what a place so most trap 536 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,480 burger. I've been the spuds and I didn't 537 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,720 put my hand in my pocket. Oh I love. 538 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,840 It so we used to go to the Crescent and believe me, I 539 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,280 enjoyed myself even with my kidney. 540 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Transport is the. Crescent, it's housing that's 541 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,480 it's not just apartments. I think it was a water. 542 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,000 Place so all the students were hadn't headed for Sandy. 543 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Road There is nowhere in Belfast like the Crescent anymore. 544 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,280 It was the place to go. And could. 545 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,680 And then around the corner, first buds. 546 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,640 Could everyone have gone to the everyone if you know? 547 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Everyone could go to, everyone could go. 548 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,840 It was, it was the place to go. So I lived life to the full, is 549 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,240 what I'm saying. Yeah, I went out. 550 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,360 You know, I like the, I like the Pinta, Guinness, vodka, Red 551 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,640 Bull. You know, I not together, but I 552 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,400 enjoyed myself. Yeah, as what I'm saying. 553 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,640 And I lived life to Phil. I played a lot of sport at a 554 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,240 completely normal life, but I never forgot. 555 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,120 I had a transplant because I wanted to look after it and I 556 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:20,320 looked after it because it was my dad's and looked after for 30 557 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:31,000 years. 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What shirt? 574 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,920 And then and the idea was I would drive people to the 575 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,720 driving range, like celebrities and people playing the programme 576 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:38,120 and interview them as we went. And you and I went out and it 577 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:40,960 was great. And I remember had like some 578 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,160 food and they were like offer people food when they get in. 579 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,000 And I was like, here, Stephen, do you want a banana? 580 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:46,840 And you're like, no. Potassium nightmare? 581 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Not quite, but then because when I was on dialysis I'm on a low 582 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,960 potassium diet, really restrictive diet and on a fluid 583 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,480 restriction, so I was only on 1500 mil a day. 584 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Now for somebody who used to drink 7 and probably does know I 585 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,720 drink 678 litres a day, the fluid restriction absolutely 586 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,480 killed me. Drink. 8 litres a day. 587 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,880 Oh I well six anyway. I drink 6 litres a day. 588 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,720 Not what water. You know, Water fluid. 589 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,720 Is it not if you drink a gallon of water you you die? 590 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,080 No, no, no, no. You can. 591 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,080 You mean have you heard that as well? 592 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,880 No, I've never heard that. You won't drink. 593 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240 I was informed by a very reliable source when I was 594 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,400 younger. I think I was with sex when I 595 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,440 heard that the guy telling me was at least 8. 596 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Well, that might have been Chinese water torture or 597 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,920 something back, back in the day. But I was right. 598 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,960 So when I was on dialysis, I only had 1500 mils. 599 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,720 So I wasn't thinking the 8 or 10 cups of tea a day. 600 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,960 It was like really, really limited. 601 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680 And that and it was on 10 pair of pick and porkies and Poly 602 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,480 pineapples a day, you know, because they're only 60 or 70 603 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,880 mil. So what a diet. 604 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,000 They were good. Yeah, that's I lived in 605 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,640 lollipops and I didn't need anything. 606 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,600 So obviously there was no alcohol involved. 607 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,120 And to be honest, I haven't got any alcohol since my new 608 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,640 transplant. That probably won't ever again, 609 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,520 just because I've kind of gone off it now. 610 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,200 Yeah, it's weird. I like to think, you know, to 611 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,160 get over the the mental side of eating it at the 10 pair of peg 612 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,800 and porkies. They used to change it up on the 613 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,800 night, like even going on up with a knife and fork sometimes. 614 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440 No, no, no, no, no. Dyson it no. 615 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,880 And rocket, Rocket lollies, Great. 616 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,360 I mean, rocket lollies for a pound. 617 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,640 Where would you get it? Correct. 618 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Absolutely. I mean that's most people are 619 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,920 would buy one of those for the summer. 620 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,720 You know that that much? I buy a day per day. 621 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600 That's incredible. And every, yeah, I mean every 622 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720 sport event I went to, people knew I liked lollipops. 623 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440 So they buy me lollipops freezer. 624 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,160 And since I've had my transplant, I have not had one 625 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,600 lollipop. I was keeping deal farming 626 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,160 business. Just because you had so many, 627 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000 yeah, will bring you back. I mean, I was eating genuine, 628 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,200 genuinely the. Sound, you think? 629 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,720 Unless no, this is this is sort of exclusive. 630 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320 I won't. I I was eating without a shadow 631 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:51,400 of a doubt. 70 lollipops a week. 60 anyway. 60 too many 60 too 632 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000 many to. Multiply 60 lollipops a week 633 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,680 times Yeah, 10 months. That's that's how many lollipops 634 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,600 I was eating. Yeah, I know. 635 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240 I mean, if the Sunday World don't get hold of this. 636 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360 I'm not one sense their profits must have plummeted. 637 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360 What's a nice slowly exclusive? Never. 638 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,320 I don't want to look at another one ever again. 639 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,880 So what? Are you limited on your diet 640 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,200 now? No. 641 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280 No, no, no, not now. I'm back if I can eat as freely 642 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,480 as I want. See, I am, but I don't know, I 643 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,720 think I might be able to still eat freely, but I'm just in the 644 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,040 zone with what I do. Fun. 645 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,520 I still haven't had bananas. I'm still funny. 646 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120 My potassium, I still watch it because I don't want it to creep 647 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080 up and and other things. I check my results and make sure 648 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,760 I want to. I don't want to put obviously 649 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,240 after a transplant you can put on a lot of WHIP because you're 650 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,160 on steroids and I don't want to do, I don't want to do that. 651 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000 So I'm managing my dad pretty well. 652 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,360 I love a ham and cheese toasty. Well, couldn't eat those for 653 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000 three like 3 1/2 years. So I love ham, cheese toast. 654 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400 You know, I couldn't eat cheese. You know, couldn't eat processed 655 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720 food, couldn't eat fast food. Crisps on the side. 656 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,160 Yeah, no, no, don't. But I like I haven't. 657 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960 I've only had a couple of packs of crisps since my transplant. 658 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,160 I kind of have gone off them as well, but potato cheese and. 659 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,480 Onion. Honestly I think the older you 660 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880 get the more distant you get from crisps. 661 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,360 I know, but I used to love a pack of potato cheese and onion 662 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,200 crisp sandwich. Class. 663 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,000 Well, here's back in back in in the day at school, I would have 664 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,160 got ham and cheese sandwich. Ham. 665 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,600 Grated cheese. Oh, I like that. 666 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 On the side we've got a pepper chip. 667 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,200 I would have put a few of the pepper chips into. 668 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,840 That's rotten. And some potato prawn cocktail. 669 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,640 That's rotten. That is rotten and that. 670 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Honestly, don't knock it until you've tried. 671 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,720 No, I'm not the one. I mean it cost £12 to put it all 672 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,520 together, but it was, it was worth it. 673 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360 Try a ham, cheese, sweet corn toasted sandwich with red sauce 674 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,240 or mayonnaise. That's the business. 675 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,720 No, not red sauce. Oh yeah, red sauce. 676 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,080 No, because if you're. Or mayonnaise. 677 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,640 No, I couldn't. I haven't even eat red sauce, 678 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,080 brown sauce, say cheese, very limited on vegetables and 679 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,640 couldn't eat like white rice out of a Chinese restaurant, for 680 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,680 example. I could tell you what I could 681 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,800 eat rather what I couldn't eat. So now my dad's been opened back 682 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,720 up again. It's fantastic. 683 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,560 I can eat whatever I want. That's great. 684 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,960 I mean, I remember when I was in hospital and I've got the 685 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,080 croon's diagnosis, but there weren't I'm really sure I've 686 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,760 I've I have a weird body. I mean, I've got like weird 687 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160 heart, like Luther ship and I think like I have weird my 688 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120 thumb's a weird ship. And this is the same internally 689 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,720 as well. Nice. 690 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,920 I have some weird things. So they they X-rayed me and they 691 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,960 came back to me. I was only in hospital a couple 692 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040 and I'd never been in hospital for anything before overnight. 693 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,680 And they, they said, look, we've looked at your spleen here and 694 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,240 you have, it's disturbed, disturbing like people like 695 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,040 consultants were, you know, like white. 696 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160 And then they say it out, No, they didn't take it out because 697 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,360 they, they said to me, because of your spleen and because what 698 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960 else is going on? You're looking at maybe a three. 699 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400 I think they said to me three or four months stay in hospital. 700 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Nice came back to me the food. No, came back to me a couple of 701 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,200 days later said, look, we figured out that you and this is 702 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680 the consultant's word figured out your spleen is just a bit 703 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800 weird. So you're now free to leave. 704 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,720 So I don't know why I started saying this, but I just want to 705 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,680 let you know that my spleen is not great. 706 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,080 Oh, that that's what it was. I was reacting badly without 707 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840 knowing that the dairy, right. So I would have, I would have 708 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,960 dairy and then I would need to go to a different room, if you 709 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960 know what I mean. Yes, but I didn't know this. 710 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000 So I want, and I'd lost so much weight. 711 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320 I just wanted to like build myself back up again. 712 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,520 So everybody was like, milkshakes are the way to go. 713 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320 Loads of calories, easy to drink. 714 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,800 People were bringing me big banana milkshakes and it was 715 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,760 just. You can't. 716 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,280 You can't drink them. No, I was drinking them, but I 717 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,120 was. Made, but you could make them 718 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,360 with oat milk. Probably could, No. 719 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Yeah. But the mistake. 720 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,360 But I haven't had like I don't miss milk as much as I thought 721 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,400 it would. Only in tea. 722 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,920 Only in tea. Almond, almond milk and. 723 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,160 No, I don't like almond milk and tea. 724 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,080 I tried it didn't. Didn't do it for me. 725 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,720 See. And I'm not like, you're like 726 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,280 soaked. He's an oat. 727 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,480 Milk. Yeah, I've tried it too, but not 728 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,480 in cornflakes. It can tag on tea, but not on 729 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,120 the cornflakes. That's what killed me. 730 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,800 I live on cereal. And so how much cheese? 731 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,000 Toasted sandwiches and both those things were out the window 732 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,480 when I was on the diet. When I was on the diet. 733 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,680 See. Crunchy nut cornflakes couldn't 734 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,920 have them. Yeah, have nuts. 735 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,320 Milk was limited. Nightmare. 736 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,720 Only allowed hundred millimilk a day. 737 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,960 I mean if the. Effect for tea if there's a. 738 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Better advert for taking care of your kidneys. 739 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000 It's the fact that cereals out the window. 740 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,680 Oh. This window you're on. 741 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320 But if you like lollies, only if you like lollies, get on, get on 742 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,200 the lollies, get involved. Probably end up with diabetes. 743 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:24,000 But I mean, you kid, he's OK. You and I were on the same 744 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,320 flight going back from, that's right, Switzerland. 745 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,200 You remember yesterday? Yeah. 746 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,320 After Northern Ireland much. Yeah. 747 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,160 And we're just chatting about a lot of different things. 748 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,560 And then we got talking about The Smiths. 749 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,080 Oh, and. And you were talking about this. 750 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,920 You said. You said, do you like The 751 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Smiths? And I said, yeah, I meant on a 752 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,040 load of their songs. But yeah. 753 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,360 And then I can't remember who I was talking to. 754 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,240 And really, Wolster, months later, I think on my radio show 755 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,280 we played The Smiths and Owen McFadden, my producer, said 756 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,560 Stephen Watson never spoke to about The Smiths. 757 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120 And I said yes. On a flight coming on from 758 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,360 Switzerland, he asked me if I like The Smiths and I said, does 759 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,320 he? Is he really into them? 760 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,400 And he went yes. Oh yes. 761 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,920 He really is. Oh yeah, Morrissey's got a new 762 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,239 album out at the minute. Well, it's coming out in March. 763 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Do you know that Morrissey did like a tour of and I swear to 764 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000 God, this true Northern Irish leisure. 765 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Centres, yes. And I was at the mall. 766 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,400 Oh, my leisure centre. He played, It's not a, it's not 767 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,760 a, it's not a leisure centre. But he played the Rialto in 768 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,960 Derry, which is a very, very small venue. 769 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,880 He played on the leisure centre and and a couple of others and I 770 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,280 was at every single one of them. What I like about that is that 771 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,560 the idea of playing leisure centre is that there was 772 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920 probably like lads towards the end of the concert on his own 773 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,239 core, just with a 5A side ball waiting to go on, just peering 774 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,600 through the glass. I mean, I heard that he did that 775 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560 because it's so cheap to rent the leisure centre. 776 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,120 No, I don't think that was that was the reason. 777 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,320 It's because he just does different things sometimes. 778 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,760 I mean, this is somebody who'd like who'd headline Glastonbury. 779 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,159 Yeah, who sold out the the Orange Bowl quicker than The 780 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,360 Beatles, right? You know, he can play massive 781 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,840 venues, but sometimes he just likes to. 782 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920 He's doing the leisure centre soon as he's. 783 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640 Just likes to do a little little smaller. 784 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,280 It's more. I've seen Marcy in concert at 785 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,080 least 10 times. And you have a collection of 786 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120 record CD's? Yes. 787 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,240 Would you say you have every bit of music he's ever done? 788 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,320 Oh yes, with probably 3 times over. 789 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,920 And maybe some stuff he doesn't even know. 790 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,040 He's no, no, you got. It definitely not, but I have 791 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,760 got every CD, every seven and single, every 12 inch single, 792 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,000 every box set, every promo single. 793 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,240 All the singles come out as a promo. 794 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,800 There's one or two things that I don't have because they cost an 795 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,320 extortionate amount of money to actually buy them. 796 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,520 You've. Had two kidney. 797 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,480 Transplants, I know, I know, but the negative, the negative 798 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,840 single there's only there's only a very limited amount of of The 799 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,840 Smiths race first single hand in glove. 800 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,120 It's probably about 5 grand. So I don't want it that much 801 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,760 because I've got you think so, Yes, Yeah. 802 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,920 They don't come up for sale very often. 803 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,120 Get it. But I have probably like I've 804 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,400 got hundreds of CDs, hundreds of seven inch records, hundreds of 805 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,120 all hundreds of stuff and I love it. 806 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,160 I remember Bailey and everything. 807 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,480 I want you to complete the collection. 808 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,400 I mean if it's five grand, I mean we live in Northern 809 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,520 Ireland, you'll know a fella who can get it for like £80. 810 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,920 I know, but I thought my collection was amazing until 811 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,520 this sounds. This sounds sad, but I was on a 812 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,560 website for Morrissey collectors. 813 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,680 It is. And yeah. 814 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,560 And this guy, like take one of the singles for example, 815 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,000 Swearheads, the first single, this guy's got the 12 inch and 816 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,840 seven inch from every single country. 817 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,680 You know, I'm, I'm not that obsessive. 818 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,160 I just want every sleeve and every version. 819 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,760 So I've got all the cassettes, albums on every single format on 820 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120 every format. And there was a couple, I 821 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,320 actually had a leak in the house once and it leaked into the box 822 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,920 of the Morrissey and Smith Collection and it wrecked like 823 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,920 quite a lot of the records. We had to go out and rebuy the. 824 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,960 Universe might have been trying to tell you something. 825 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,600 But listen, I am. I am more passionate about Marty 826 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,600 and The Smiths than probably even sport, which I'm so 827 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,040 passionate about so. I'm kind of the same for you. 828 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,960 I'm the same. Would Bewitched bewitched? 829 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,000 Yeah, I'd have all their all their saying that. 830 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,400 Is that a band or a? Say Lovey. 831 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680 Is that a band or a programme? Is not a programme bewitched? 832 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,360 Yeah, there is, but Bewitched were. 833 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,560 Never Irish. Trio of sisters. 834 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Never heard of them. Say you will say, you won't say. 835 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,240 Oh, I've heard. You what? 836 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,600 I don't. Yeah, I've heard of that, Yeah. 837 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,200 The Mars he getting bothered. Recently he's been he's 838 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,400 polarising, yes, he's he's got himself in a whole lot of bother 839 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,240 and I don't really I don't really get involved in his 840 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,680 politics and the things that he says. 841 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,440 I just like the music. I like the man, I like the 842 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,800 music, but I don't get involved in all of like I didn't turn a 843 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,760 vegetarian because he because of meet his murder and all of that 844 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,880 that goes with it. But I just think. 845 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,720 Too many. Perfect. 846 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,200 Even his music is amazing. I love the Smithy's new album 847 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,360 Out I Am Not a Dog on a Chain, which is coming out very soon. 848 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960 I mean, there's already been 33 singles released off that and as 849 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,880 soon as they're downloaded as I walk in the other night, I 850 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040 listened to the new single about 10 times when I was. 851 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,200 I am sad when it comes to Morrissey and Smith, but he's 852 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,000 amazed. I like there is a like that 853 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,480 never goes oh what a song. I like last of the international 854 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880 Playboy famous international playwash. 855 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,480 That's a phenomenal song. Yeah, my friend actually once 856 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,920 Nigel Mcgalpine said this is over a few drinks. 857 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,880 Could I name 100 Morrissey songs in a minute? 858 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,880 Or Marcy or Smith songs. Got there about 98. 859 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,080 It was impressive. And I know I'm not going to. 860 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400 No, I'm not going to try. I'm not going to try it again. 861 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,880 No, Steven, no, no, no, I'm not going to try it again. 862 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,120 OK. But it was pretty good. 863 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,840 And you'd need to be a drink involved for that. 864 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,240 But it was, Yeah. I love Morrissey and The Smiths 865 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,720 love it. It was there whenever you were, 866 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,120 you were sort of going through everything whenever you're, you 867 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,320 were doing the long hours on dialysis and all that kind of 868 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,200 thing was there. What like do you just like 869 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,160 listen to the music or do you go, do you connect the music to 870 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,480 like do I mean, have you got a song in your head where you go? 871 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,720 Sometimes I just stick that on, everything's fine. 872 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,160 Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes in the very first 873 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,440 Smith song that I liked and I was William, it was really 874 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,160 nothing. That was just the first song I 875 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,000 ever heard. I came to The Smiths after 876 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,760 they'd broken up. I know I never got a chance to 877 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,960 see The Smiths in concert, so I do like that. 878 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,800 So I'm that sort of takes me back to the day. 879 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960 But I have to say, well, in hospital, I just downloaded on 880 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,480 Spotify the complete Morrissey and Smith's collection and just 881 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,160 listen to it solidly. I mean, some people probably 882 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,320 thought that would get an early grave, but I just, I loved it. 883 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,080 I mean, listen to other stuff. I mean, listen to a lot of other 884 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,200 stuff as well. Not so much current. 885 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,800 Marcy tribute act Yes, tribute. Yeah, these charming men, well. 886 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,560 You're never going to see the Smith's live, Steven. 887 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,000 Get ready. It would be my I would love to 888 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,360 meet Morrissey. I've never met. 889 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,560 They say don't meet your heroes, but I have met a couple of them 890 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,280 previously like some George Best Joyed and Lop Ollie Campbell was 891 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,640 a you naturally and so I would I would like to meet meet 892 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,040 Morrissey. I mean, I feel like you, I feel 893 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,520 like it's, it's, it's achievable. 894 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,520 Well, I was. Is he elusive? 895 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,400 Well, there was once he was on The One Show at one point, which 896 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,760 was quite an odd thing for him to do. 897 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,160 Yeah. And Christine Blakely, who 898 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,040 obviously knows, she said you want to come over. 899 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,280 And I was thinking about it. And then I thought, no, you'd 900 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,400 just be like a spare one of those at a wedding, you know? 901 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,200 So I thought you. You got to do it though. 902 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,840 I know at some at some point I'd like, I'd like, I mean it 903 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,440 genuinely. His music has played a big part 904 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,720 in my in my life and I've listened to it, my hope my whole 905 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:07,840 life. I love on a Marcy album or is 906 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,880 coming out. I actually genuinely get 907 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,480 excited. I'm probably one of the few. 908 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,720 Yeah, but I love it. He probably doesn't. 909 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,360 When I was in hospital, I actually bought a Lotus Smiths 910 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,720 T-shirts for, you know, people buy pyjamas. 911 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,560 I bought Smiths and Marcy T-shirts. 912 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,680 And wore those when I was in hospital so. 913 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,360 I like them. I like that I'm kind of nowhere 914 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,280 near the same. I think I arrived at the ruins. 915 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,880 I've always liked the old Rolling Stones song, but as I've 916 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,120 got a wee bit older, I've started to listen to as much 917 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,360 Rolling Stones as I can. I mean, we're not talking a 918 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,400 collection. We're not talking a collection, 919 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,000 but I'll. Start. 920 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,880 You think so? I. 921 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,800 Think might. I want. 922 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,160 I really think you should buy that 5 grand piece you're 923 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,080 missing and we can get a cheap we'll get a cheaper. 924 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,360 Someday we'll get a cheap. Someday might get a bit cheaper 925 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,320 than. That so I want to finish but 926 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,880 talking about this I this might be terrible to say. 927 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,720 I think I'm an organ donor, but I am not 100% sure. 928 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,240 You think you are? I have. 929 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,200 Filled out things before. On your driving licence, yes, 930 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,600 then you probably are. Does that make me is there? 931 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,560 Should I check? Is there a way I can check it? 932 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,320 Is there something I can? Yes, you can go into the organ 933 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,200 donor register online and try and see if you, you know, if 934 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,720 you're registered online. I mean, I, they have, I mean 935 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,440 England, Scotland, Wales have a different scheme than we have in 936 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,800 Northern Ireland. As far as I'm aware. 937 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,720 They've got an opt out as opposed to an opt in scheme, 938 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,320 which I hope they do bring into Northern Ireland now that we've 939 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,240 finally got the government back up and running. 940 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,520 It's important, but it's not as important as the live donation 941 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,960 programme. I prefer to spend my time 942 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,880 talking to educate people. You know, you can, you don't 943 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,320 have to die to save somebody's life. 944 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,040 You can save somebody's life while you're, while you're still 945 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,160 on the planet. And but it is, it is very 946 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,920 important. The organ donor programme is 947 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,760 very, very important. Deceased programme is very, very 948 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,320 important. And I encourage everyone to 949 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,960 there's. Probably a lot of people like me 950 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,720 that, you know, kind of think they are like the idea. 951 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,360 But maybe, you know, I'll do that at some point. 952 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,760 You put it off, whatever. So today I'm going to check it. 953 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,360 Yes, and even still, if you're on it and you unfortunately 954 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,360 passed away, they still have to check with your family. 955 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,160 Yes, that that that they want you to donate. 956 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,680 Yeah, but if you've signed the register, then it makes the 957 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,320 conversation a whole lot easier. I once actually promoted the 958 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,600 organ donor register and I found this photo the other day. 959 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440 No good for a podcast, but it will show you afterwards of me 960 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,680 on the back of a bus promoting organ donation. 961 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,640 Yeah. And the suit that I was wearing 962 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,560 that day is horrific. Pence right now. 963 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480 Oh, no, it's brown. It's a brown suit. 964 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,920 It's not good. Like Mike, you know, donor. 965 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,320 Everything. Eyes as well. 966 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,120 Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm the full heap now, although I couldn't 967 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,560 donate my kidneys even though I've got four. 968 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,240 Yeah, only one of them works. Well, like your Morrissey 969 00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:44,560 collection, it's a great collection. 970 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,080 I have decided who I'm going to leave that to, You know, that's 971 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,160 going to have to go to museum if I'm describing, yes, I think 972 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,120 that without a shadow of a doubt. 973 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,600 I think so, Stephen, thank you so much for thank you coming on 974 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,800 the podcast. Really appreciate. 975 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,760 It for giving me the time to talk about organ donation too. 976 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160 Yes, the live organ donation is there like a website for that? 977 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,720 And you can go on the Belfast City Hospital, you can look up 978 00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,560 the the live donation scheme there and register to be an 979 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,440 organ, an organ donor and your one phone call away and a few 980 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200 health cheques away, blood tests away from donating an organ all. 981 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,920 Right, there we go. Thanks very much. 982 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,440 Thank you very much with me. Thank you. 983 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,120 Cheers. Cheers. 984 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,400 Zippers, that is this week's With me podcast. 985 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,880 Thank you very much. What a guy, Steven Watson for 986 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,560 coming on highlighting the awareness needed for organ 987 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,840 donation and especially live organ donation. 988 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,960 So if you want to do a bit more reading about that, get on 989 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,440 Google and do it. Don't be one of these people 990 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,320 that posts up on Facebook on how would I find out more about live 991 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,160 organ donation? Hey, you ever heard a Lycos? 992 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,320 Hey, you know, Bing poo put it in because some people might not 993 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,680 want to use Google. And if you don't want, you've 994 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,120 got Yahoo, you've got Jeeves. Ask Jeeves. 995 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,240 He's a lot older now. He's he's very slow now in his 996 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,640 old age Jeeves. But if you ask him, he will 997 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,360 eventually get back to you. If you put a question in the 998 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,200 Jeeves now 25 minutes where he gets back to you, but he will he 999 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,240 will find it. He just takes his time. 1000 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,400 That's probably the person whose number you give. 1001 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,600 Remember, you just said to me, Big Mike there, can I pass on 1002 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,320 your number to someone? They're phoning me right now. 1003 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,320 Inconvenient. I literally said sorry I missed 1004 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,840 you in filming Shane as we speak. 1005 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,040 Ah. So I don't. 1006 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,520 Do you know what? It's fine. 1007 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600 It's just real life. It's fine. 1008 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,360 We'll take the call after. Thank you very much for 1009 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,720 listening. I say if you want to subscribe 1010 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,440 to the podcast Tea with me, you can do that. 1011 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120 If you want to read it and review it on Apple Podcast, that 1012 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,520 would be so sweet. That would be swagged out. 1013 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,120 That would be souped up. That would be asthmatic. 1014 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,720 If you want to give away 5 star review and just say, do you 1015 00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:59,680 enjoy it? Whatever you want to say, just 1016 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,320 be kind about my thumbs, OK? Thank you very much for 1017 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,880 listening. If you wanted the video version, 1018 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,840 it's on YouTube, Audio tea with me everywhere, Apple Podcasts, 1019 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,840 can't think of anywhere else, but it's there. 1020 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,240 And I've probably been left a voicemail there. 1021 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,280 And hey, don't like it when I get a voicemail. 1022 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,400 Don't like it, Don't like going into it. 1023 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,040 I've seen your missed call, I'll phone you back. 1024 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,680 Don't need the voicemail. Sometimes voicemail is good when 1025 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,760 the person goes, don't worry by phoning me back. 1026 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,600 I just need to pass on this message and then you go 1027 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,600 brilliant. But 9 out of 10 times I don't 1028 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,880 like a voicemail. OK, I do not the only time 1029 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,240 voicemail is fun is when someone's pocket dialled you for 1030 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:41,960 12 minutes and you get to listen into their life and go. 1031 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,960 I hope you make a mistake, but that's what it is. 1032 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:48,080 Thanks very much for listening to this week's Excuse Me 1033 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120 podcast. Thanks to Big Mike for standing 1034 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,720 over there just being big Mike. As we all know, he's called up 1035 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,320 by in his own words, private people. 1036 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,560 What? I would thank Dan Dan Quick, but 1037 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,960 he is not here this week so he will be getting zero thanks. 1038 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,000 I thank Dan Quick for this podcast as much as I thank 1039 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:18,080 Richard Blackwood for as much as I thank the ex WWE wrestler 1040 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:25,360 Bessera who has also contributed little to nothing to this week's 1041 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,840 podcast. Who else do? 1042 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,960 Who else? Yeah, he did it as well. 1043 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,200 This was like a big fat black guy and like APVC jacket. 1044 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,640 Yeah, he did it. Yeah, he did it. 1045 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,240 He had a Mohawk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1046 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,720 You remember. Never forget Vistra. 1047 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,560 Shout out to mom Vistra, who's probably on the podcast next 1048 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,400 week. I don't know if he's dead. 1049 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,320 Is he dead? I mean, I feel like it could 1050 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,040 well be dead. Umm. 1051 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:54,600 Also, Ronnie Beggs former train robber, has done as much as down 1052 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,800 for this episode of the podcast. I mean, Don has his reasons. 1053 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,720 He's literally working, but at the same time, please respect 1054 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,240 the memory of Vistra. Unless he's still alive, in 1055 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:06,960 which case let's enjoy him while he's here. 1056 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,680 Thanks very much guys.