1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Prime Big Deal Days is coming October 8th and 9th, which can 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,680 lead to involuntary deal squeals like the infamous deal on a new 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,920 massager squeal. Save big on prime big deal days 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:25,360 October 8th and 9th. Zippers, welcome to this episode 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,080 of the Tea With Me podcast with me. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 And I've said me too many times there, she and Todd. 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,760 I also don't know why I said my own name there like I'm some 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,480 sort of news anchor, you know? But the main thing is we're 9 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,600 stepping, OK. We're stepping it up. 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,760 We're stepping it up. I've got this mug that says 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,320 Island Arts Centre in Lisburn. That is where I play on my tour 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,560 and obviously other venues as well, not just there that made 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,240 it sound like my tour is just one venue, which would 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,120 absolutely not constitute a tour. 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,720 But they have their own mugs. And I love that. 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,480 And I love it when I go can I have one? 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,959 And I love it when they go, yeah. 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,160 And I go, how many can I get? And they say probably just one. 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,840 And I go Cal 5, you know, and they say 2 and that's exactly 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,720 what happened there. And I, I enjoy that I enjoy 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,320 mugs, you know what I mean? Because this podcast it is let 22 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:23,040 me turn my phone off. This podcast is about is about 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,160 T. You know what I mean? 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,000 It is about just a chat with AT whether it's me having a chat 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,080 with a guest or me having a chat with the listeners or just me 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,840 talking to myself with AT but I enjoy mugs. 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,840 I collect mugs and I'm building up a wee bit of a collection. 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,440 If if you I was just thinking about this there now, if you 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:49,480 have a a mug, if you're like a business or you own a company or 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,720 whatever, I don't know, or you're from or you live in some 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,840 bizarre part of the world like the Falkland Islands or cushion 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,240 doll. What you can do is send us a mug 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 to teawithmepodcast@gmail.com. I know. 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Oh, hello, I've been in quarantine for like, hey, mail 35 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,600 that to me. All right, What's your address 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,920 to withmepodcast@gmail.com? Put a stamp on it. 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,520 I mean, yes, I'm now you're acutely aware that I've said it, 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:31,960 that you can't send physical things to an e-mail, But also my 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,320 asthma is back a bit there as well. 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,080 I'm wheezing very heavily. But yeah, what I'm saying is if 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,600 you want like your mug to feature on this podcast, one of 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,600 the best tea related podcasts in County Down, get in touch with 43 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,240 this teawithmepodcast@gmail.com and we'll give you an address to 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,160 send it to because we've we've got like a or we're in the 45 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,640 process of getting a mailing address set up so you can do 46 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,440 that. Yeah. 47 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,840 The Jimmy Dornan episode of the podcast went out on Wednesday 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,520 there and what a reaction to it. Thanks very much to everyone who 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,600 listened watched it. I mean, it'd be like a lot of 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,000 people watching and listening were for him. 51 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,680 And, you know, I've, I've just got to accept that, although I 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,960 haven't fully accepted it. But yeah, I mean, the podcast 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,320 went from I think the previously that this, our top position in 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:29,480 the iTunes chart for UK had been 130 or something, maybe even 55 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,360 more. And that episode got us into the 56 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,960 Top 40. And that was bittersweet for me. 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,160 It was sweet because unreal, you know, it's the podcast hasn't 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,480 been going long. And I was really, I was really 59 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,560 happy with that. But it's bitter because I really 60 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,160 mugged myself off. And I know a lot of listeners 61 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,520 that listened to the previous carnation of this podcast, which 62 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,160 was the She and Tog cast loved hearing stories and me getting 63 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,920 mugged off. And I've done it majorly here. 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,400 Bear in mind, I full time do comedy and there's no gigs 65 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,080 anymore for the foreseeable. So let's just say the money 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,120 towed here isn't, you know what I mean? 67 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,560 His Lily pod has got a bit smaller, OK, His stocks have 68 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,079 depleted a little bit. So bear in mind I'm watching 69 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:22,440 what I spend at the minute. I make a big call in the Tea 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,800 With Me podcast WhatsApp group just before the Jimmy Dornan 71 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,760 episode went out. I said to Big Mike and producer 72 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Dan, I said if this episode gets us into the Top 40. 73 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:38,400 And again, that was ridiculous. That's like saying, you know, if 74 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,520 I win the lottery because I didn't think that was going to 75 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,960 happen. So I was like, if this this gets 76 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,400 us into the Top 40, I'll take us away. 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,080 When lockdown is over and you know, international flights are 78 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,800 back on, I'll take us away to Spain to do an episode of the TV 79 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,160 Me podcast. And those two mother fuckers sat 80 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,880 on Charitable, which is like where you can see where podcasts 81 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,480 are on the charts. They sat refresh, refresh, 82 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,280 refresh. All right, I don't know if these 83 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:11,760 two guys have left the country because that website crashed 84 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,960 just with them. I'm pretty sure Big Mike ordered 85 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,920 himself an extra laptop from Amazon on Prime just so we could 86 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,200 have two hands. You know, it's like he's playing 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,640 the decks. He was just checking those 88 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,040 charts and I think the podcast went to 33 in the UK podcast 89 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,520 chart, something like that anyway. 90 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,360 And the text was very quick. You know what, what shorts do we 91 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,080 need to pack? So fuck those guys. 92 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,960 But but I'll I'll take them away, all right, because they 93 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:43,440 deserve it because it's class to get a podcast into the Apple 94 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:49,280 podcast chart like that. I was buzzing and and I was just 95 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,280 happy with the episode as well. You know, the Jimmy Dornan 1 is 96 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,600 a bit nervous doing it. I think it turned out well. 97 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,440 And I might ask him if he wants to do another one. 98 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,880 You know, I mean, lockdown might end next week and he goes 99 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,120 fucking home now for doing the podcast again or lockdown could 100 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,960 keep going. They go, all right, may as well, 101 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,920 you know, who knows? But we're going to go to the 102 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,320 plan anyway is to go to Spain to do an episode of the TV podcast 103 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,840 down the line. Because if if you're not already 104 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,760 following this account, there's a guy called Gerry Flynn on 105 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Twitter who used to play in the Irish League and was an Irish 106 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,720 League manager. This is football obviously we're 107 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,640 talking about. And he's been doing this thing 108 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,840 every day out there. He films it just outside in his 109 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:39,120 garden where he tells like stories from back in the day of 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Irish League football. So it's like real life Keith 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,040 Cruz stuff. You know the character I do 112 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,080 Keith Cruz is all these spoof stories about himself and local 113 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,960 football. Jerry's stories are real and 114 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,920 they're fucking hilarious. So he's putting them up every 115 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,680 day. People are really, really into 116 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,120 it. And I sent him a message and 117 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Jerry, when all this lockdown ends, I'd love to come out to 118 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Mercia and do an episode. He calls it Martha. 119 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,800 I've noticed in his videos. I don't love that, but that's 120 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,520 fine. You know, each to their own. 121 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,760 I said I'd love to come out and do an episode of the podcast 122 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,720 just because I know there's going to be a lot of people who 123 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 watch and listen to this that aren't into football, and I 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,400 wouldn't. The stories he tells are so 125 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,520 funny and niche that you don't need to be into football. 126 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,080 They appreciate them. So I'd love to just go out, chat 127 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,720 to him about his career, you know, living in Spain, all that. 128 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,040 I think you'd find him a real interesting character and he's 129 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,240 very funny as well. So he was straight back to me. 130 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,560 He said like, Yep, come on out and we'll do it. 131 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Then get a few beers. So that's when I text Dan and 132 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Big Mike and I said, look, if we get into the Top 40, I'll fly us 133 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,560 out there. I mean, not literally, like I'm 134 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,480 not, I'm not pilot the plane or charter jet, but if we can get 135 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,400 decent flights and Skyscanner, I'll get us out there. 136 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,480 So that's happening. That's happening. 137 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,640 It's going to be a tea with me episode in Spain and guys, I 138 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,720 have a feeling we'll be drinking tea on that episode, if you know 139 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,040 what I mean. Cider, whatever. 140 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,360 It's been a that was a real slurp there. 141 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,520 I apologise. It's been it's been a big day 142 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,440 for me. It's been a big lockdown day for 143 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,360 me. I'll talk about this more on the 144 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,200 podcast next. I know fuck it I won't because 145 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,240 I'm not doing 1 by myself for another while. 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,760 But I painted defence today. There you go, defence in my 147 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,440 garden. Never have I done any sort of 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,480 painting before, whether that be Picasso type stuff or DIY. 149 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,720 But I just took a real notion today. 150 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,600 We have some paint that we have had to for like outdoor 151 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,159 painting. Like just a brown. 152 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Like a shit brown. I'm pretty sure it said wrong 153 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:51,120 seal shape brown. And you know what? 154 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,280 The big man just went at it and he was, I was doubling up on the 155 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,480 coats, 2 coats, not on me, you know what I mean? 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,400 Not like a parka and a bomber jacket. 157 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,760 But that's such shit, that banter, isn't it? 158 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,080 I'm not even a dad yet, but yeah, I was. 159 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,400 I was painting away and I've been doing that for the last 160 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,640 couple of hours and you feel class. 161 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,760 You feel class because I'm painting away. 162 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,600 I see the guy that lives over the back of me and of course I 163 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,960 hit him with a bit of Chad. He's like, all right, how's it 164 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,240 going? He didn't want any more 165 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,200 conversation and I said, I don't think I'll be getting any work 166 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,680 as a painter and decorator after this. 167 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,440 Now that's funny because it's off the cuff banter. 168 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,200 There's not much to go when we're in lockdown. 169 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,960 Also, I'm I'm deprecating and making a joke there that like 170 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,640 I'm not very good at this. But he couldn't see the wall 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,280 because the wall I was painting phenomenal. 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,640 It's unreal. And if I get this intro and 173 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 outro to the podcast done in time, I might go back out. 174 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,680 Even though my wife said just just take it easy for them. 175 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:53,120 I just, you know, just relax, we'll watch a bit of TVI really 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,800 want to go back out to it because it's class. 177 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,960 Because back in the day, whenever I was a child, my Uncle 178 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Michael used to amuse me when I went to his house by saying, do 179 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,560 you want to paint my house? No, whenever you're four or 180 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,920 five, that's a lot of responsibility. 181 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,120 But I said yes, I would love to do that. 182 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Like painting a house the outside of a house. 183 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,320 He said, let me get you some magic paint. 184 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,040 No, turned out years later it was water. 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,960 All right. The man lied to me. 186 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,080 But I thought because obviously if you've got water in a 187 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,560 paintbrush and paint the wall, it goes a bit darker. 188 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,480 I thought this guy's letting me paint this house. 189 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:32,560 Turned out it wasn't. So this now years later, like 190 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,800 2530 years later is my what would you say like is my 191 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,280 revenge. I'm finally getting that 192 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,080 actually paint things and it feels good. 193 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,800 So if anybody needs anything painted, get an actual painter 194 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,600 decorator, do it because I'm not cut out for it. 195 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,440 Honestly, I don't even have that big of a fence and my hand like 196 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,280 seized up and a faint little bit. 197 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,400 But but it's been fun. I'm just going to do more DIY. 198 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,280 I'm going to do more stuff outside the house. 199 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,240 I feel like I might do like a mosaic. 200 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,760 I might do a water feature, might do an indoor pool, outdoor 201 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:10,440 pool at the very least. I know, you know, people don't 202 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,640 really do gnomes anymore, do they? 203 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,040 I find gnomes extremely creepy. Like here's the thing, having 204 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 one gnome is really creepy when you just say a gnome by itself 205 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,560 in someone's garden and then having like 30 gnomes is creepy. 206 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:26,000 But anything in between, sort of like dead on, it's dead on. 207 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,520 I feel like we should get a tea with me gnome. 208 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,760 I mean it, it in no way ties in with the podcast, but I would 209 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,240 just like it. The more merch the better. 210 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaking of merch we are going to have, we are going to have 211 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,920 mugs and stuff like that and maybe do T-shirts down the line. 212 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,480 That's something we're we're chatting about in our Tea With 213 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,520 Me WhatsApp group. So keep an eye out for that. 214 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,680 And before I get into this podcast, let me plug the 215 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:51,880 Patreon, which is patreon.com/tea With Me podcast 216 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,800 on that you can get a load of bonus episodes that only are 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,680 available to the Patreon people. Patreon people, we're to call 218 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:00,720 them that. It sounds like some sort of gang 219 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,920 who aren't very hard, but we just are going to bring it up. 220 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,840 I was going to say drop an episode, but you know, look at 221 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,760 me. We're going to release an 222 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,520 episode on Monday with Kieran Bartlett that was recorded a 223 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,040 couple of months ago. Very funny, very funny. 224 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,040 So you can check that out and loads more. 225 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,680 Also, if you want to read and review the podcast and Apple 226 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,400 podcast, that'd be really sweet. That helps us going up the go up 227 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,200 the chart. This week's episode of Tea with 228 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,160 Me is with Wayne McCulloch. He's my guest. 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,320 Wayne McCulloch is a former world champion boxer. 230 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,840 He's been living in between Las Vegas and California now for, I 231 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,840 think he said 20 years when we got chatting. 232 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,800 I chatted to him a couple of weeks ago when lockdown kind of 233 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,680 just started and I was just about to go to LA and I was 234 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,920 maybe going to interview him out there. 235 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,760 But I ended up having to do it while I was in my spare room and 236 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,760 he's in lockdown out in Vegas. So we had a real interesting 237 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,920 chat. Loads of stuff I didn't know 238 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,480 about Wayne. Like whenever I was a kid, I 239 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,920 remember him fighting like Prince Naseem and these 240 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:10,600 household names. And, and I, I can't say I knew a 241 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,000 lot about him personally. You know, I just knew him as, 242 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,800 as, as this world champion boxer. 243 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,320 But we got to talk about loads of interest and stuff, including 244 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,240 the fact that he was boxing for the Irish Olympic team and he 245 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,560 was a a working class guy from, from the the Shankill, which is 246 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,520 pretty exclusively Protestant. I mean that sounds like a 247 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:38,320 fragrance, but Javon she exclusively Protestant, but but 248 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,480 that was that was really interesting to chat about that. 249 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,560 And I guess I was I was really keen to know what it was like as 250 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:48,080 well coming up during the troubles as a boxer, you know, 251 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:53,240 and the fact that boxing so big now, but it was it was different 252 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,880 back then. And we're chatting about a 253 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,880 couple a few personal things as well and what he's up to now 254 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,800 when as we talk about trains, Brian Callan, who's one of my 255 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,760 favourite comedians. So I think you'll enjoy this 256 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,360 episode. I don't know loads about boxing. 257 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,680 I do really like boxing, but I'm not like an enthusiast about it 258 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:15,360 or a nano rack or anything. So I don't think if you're, if 259 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,960 you're not into boxing, don't let that put you off because 260 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,720 Wayne's a really interesting guy, very funny, very, very kind 261 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,640 with his time, like everyone that I interview. 262 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,000 So just an absolute gentleman. I had a lot of fun chatting to 263 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,800 him and I think you guys are going to enjoy this. 264 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,400 This is the Wayne McCullough episode of the Tea With Me 265 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:43,760 podcast. When this this podcast is called 266 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Tea with me. So it's kind of where I have a 267 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,840 cup of tea with the listeners, bring a guest on all that kind 268 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,840 of thing. Yes, that's exactly what I was 269 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,560 going to ask you. Do you drink tea or because 270 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,400 because you live inside now, do you have fancy teas? 271 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,920 Do you drink tea? 20? 272 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,120 I've been here 2027 years, 27 years and I've a drink. 273 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Here we go. I've always had. 274 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,080 I'm not going to give me a brand name, you know what I mean? 275 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,520 I've always had. Yes, well, you just can't go 276 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,920 wrong. You just can't go wrong. 277 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,320 I've got about 400 of the men of my friends from Scotland from 278 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,400 over before Christmas and they brought me over 400 tea bags. 279 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,360 And then I've always drank tea, tea, tea. 280 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Yeah, tea from back home is. It's always way better, 281 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,960 stronger. The American tea. 282 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,840 It's like water and all rain. I anytime I go out there and ask 283 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,320 for a tea they give me an early grey. 284 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,720 When I specify I want a breakfast tea, they still give 285 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,320 me an early grey. Get get the orange orange Peaky 286 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,160 tea over here. It's called orange Peaky. 287 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,400 It sounds like orange but it tastes like back home. 288 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,640 They're all grey and the black, the black or the breakfast one 289 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,400 doesn't taste the same. It's orange. 290 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,280 Peaky is the best one over here. But you've got. 291 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Your own tea bags is the best anyway. 292 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,040 I want to sort of go go back a weave it with you in terms of 293 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,800 career and stuff before do living out there in America now, 294 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,840 do you feel like do you still keep a connection with home in 295 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,080 terms of products and stuff you buy? 296 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Because I feel like if I moved away I would be finding those 297 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,640 shops that have. Belfast. 298 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Belfast is always in my heart, believe me. 299 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,560 Look, here's an example right here. 300 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Oh, look, there's a Las Vegas Slack and a Belfast Slack. 301 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Oh. Class. 302 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,240 Right. And Belfast has always been, you 303 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,760 know, people think you go away, you forget. 304 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,840 And even here, my, my, my daughter made this year, it's 305 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,400 like home 93. We came to Vegas. 306 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,040 There's Northern Ireland, there's Nevada we live in. 307 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,960 And we lived in California for five years as well. 308 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,720 So I was the little. I mean, you always never forget 309 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,120 where you come from. Well of. 310 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Course. For for for that long away, I 311 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,080 think a lot of people's accent just goes just totally goes but 312 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,360 you. Go like you're talking like 313 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,400 this, you're going to talk against. 314 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,520 Tomorrow do you go each? One here. 315 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Look at that Belfast City Hall in the Wall. 316 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Yeah, there's, there's usually golfs on those benches though, 317 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,160 but I think they've got it on the next day when they're not 318 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,280 there, you know? There's there's pitches that are 319 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,040 like Belfast, the coast. No, my, my accent has changed a 320 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,440 little bit, but it's not like I've seen people come over here 321 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,920 for two weeks and they're speaking American. 322 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,839 Yeah, do you know? What? 323 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:19,680 I mean, people make fun of my accent. 324 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,400 Don't care, doesn't bother me. Do you find that when you're 325 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,200 speaking to people from home, your accent gets way more 326 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,880 stronger? Oh yeah, naturally. 327 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,400 But when you're. It does all. 328 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,800 The time I guess. It does, but you know your 329 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,160 accent. You've got a a more polite 330 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,680 Belfast accent. Yeah. 331 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,760 My wife. This is just for stage though. 332 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,120 And I know my wife was from over in like East Belfast, Woodstock 333 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,800 Road, a Craigie Rd is a reaction was different from mine. 334 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,400 And I was on the Shank Rotary. So mine was like, what about? 335 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,680 What about you kiddo? Were you going to go here? 336 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,400 Bye bye. What about you? 337 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Not under, not understand. For the first couple years I was 338 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960 here, nobody can understand a word I said. 339 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,760 Yeah. My coaches couldn't even 340 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,160 understand when I had to talk. Then I started talking. 341 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,960 I just slowed my words down a little bit and started talking 342 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,280 to them. And and then when you slow your 343 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,720 words down a bit, you get used to it. 344 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Like the movie, yes. Then when you've seen The 345 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,440 Devil's Own with Brad Pitt, have you seen that? 346 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,400 Yep, Yep. Well he he has a Belfast accent 347 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,240 but he he slowed it way down for people to understand it. 348 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,120 I find out massively with when when I do stand up in the States 349 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:29,040 that we speak naturally so fast and I was almost moving on to 350 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,160 the next subject. Do you? 351 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,880 Do you say you do stand up like comedian? 352 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,880 Yeah, yeah. So that's my main, that's my 353 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,240 main thing. That's. 354 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Do you know Brian? Do you know Brian Callen? 355 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:41,000 That is one of the things I was going to ask you so I can. 356 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Fight like Frank can. Fight like a mother humper. 357 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,680 He he can fight. I taught him how to fight for 358 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,440 real. He spars, he goes. 359 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,440 He can really fight, believe me. So, Brian? 360 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,360 And he's so funny, so funny. I went to see him one time live. 361 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,360 Brian Callans, podcast fighter and the kid is. 362 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:59,640 Yeah, Brendan Shubb. One of the best podcasts and he 363 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,160 is one of my favourite comedians and I saw the I'd actually seen 364 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,520 you in some of his Instagram stuff a couple of years ago and 365 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,880 the. Brent, Brent, Brent's the same 366 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,640 guy off the off the stage and he is on, on the stage. 367 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,760 He's so, he's so humble, so nice. 368 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,720 And I just talked to me the other day, text me the other day 369 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,520 and says I stand in Vegas. You OK? 370 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,640 You've been good. I'm like, I'm good, I'm good. 371 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,720 But he's he's busy shooting his new show school. 372 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,040 He's from the gold. He's brilliant, phenomenal. 373 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,200 How did how did? Because I guess people that like 374 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,120 listen to my podcast. So I, yeah, I do stand up back 375 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,640 home and being here, but but kind of travel over to the 376 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,680 states maybe four or five times a year. 377 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,800 I was actually supposed to be in LA last week and the night 378 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,520 before I supposed to go, I just thought, Nah, I'll not risk it 379 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,760 because it was just the start of all the lockdown kind of thing. 380 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,200 And the flight went, the flight went ahead the night before. 381 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,880 I was like, no, I'll just not chance it. 382 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Well, LA and Vegas is a place to be for a comic, you know what I 383 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,400 mean? Yeah. 384 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,120 Oh yeah. I mean, LA some like I'll go out 385 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:02,120 to do gigs, but then LA is the place where I'd be happy enough 386 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:04,960 just watch it as well. Guys like Brian in the Comedy 387 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Store. Did you ever get to the Comedy 388 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Store when you were? Living in LA, been there yeah, 389 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,760 I'm back and forth. I'm done in LA the other week 390 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,600 now so I'm here a week LALA week here a week or a week yes, we 391 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,320 tell so I still train brand down there. 392 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,560 So do. Tell me what you're getting up 393 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,240 to at the minute because I do want to talk to you a bit, a bit 394 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,640 about boxing, but you know, I, I am 31. 395 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,480 Life after boxing. Life after boxing. 396 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,920 Life after boxing because I'm 31 and I, I definitely remember 397 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,640 when you would have been fighting world title fights. 398 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,760 I I just about remember that, but I was maybe would that have 399 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,040 been what when? Well, my my daughter's 21. 400 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,320 So my daughter's 21. She remembers very little. 401 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,120 Yeah, no. She was when she she was six 402 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:50,920 months old when she came to my first fight or say my when I 403 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,960 fought Nazim Hamid, that was 98. Yes, he was six months old. 404 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Because that was, I mean, we're sort of there's so many boxers 405 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,760 from home now. I mean they're. 406 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,960 So yeah, back in the 90s, it was like me and Dave Boy, and that 407 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,440 was about it, you know? What I mean, I only found out 408 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,800 about him later. I only like in the last few 409 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,040 years did a bit of reason about him. 410 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,720 But but you were kind of the boxing superstar then when there 411 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,680 wasn't, you know, fighters over multiple divisions. 412 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Like it was just kind of, it was just kind of you out there. 413 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,960 Yeah, it was different when I went to American and sort of, 414 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,520 you know, it was like a shock to people into leaving them by the 415 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680 media was sort of wasn't good good to me, really. 416 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,560 Did did you move to the states for for work? 417 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,760 We are there for training camps. And then you just thought like 418 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,440 it here or what was the what was the call to go over there? 419 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Well, the truth is, I wanted to stay back home, you know? 420 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,760 You know Barney Eastwood, do you? 421 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,960 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, He just. 422 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 He just passed away. Great Barney. 423 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,320 I trained the Barney's gym when I was 14/15/16. 424 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,080 My brother was five years older and he's he was a pro and I was 425 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,680 amateur and amateurs weren't allowed to stream the pros back 426 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,720 then. But I went down to his gym 427 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,680 because it was actually warm. We had no heat in our gym. 428 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,080 And I used to spar with DF boy and a guy called Paul Hugginson, 429 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,120 he was a world champion and Fidel Bassett who beat, who beat 430 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,600 DF bar in a world championship fights. 431 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,760 And I was getting experienced by doing that. 432 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,960 And I was thankful that he he let me do that. 433 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480 But you know, I wanted to stay home. 434 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,960 I was a home bird. And then after the Olympics, I'm 435 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,120 92, you know, I get first silver medal from Ireland, 36 years. 436 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,760 And I was waiting to go to GoPro, but I cracked my 437 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,320 cheekbone in three places here and a busted nerve right here. 438 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,200 Don't I still have no feeling here? 439 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,680 OK, my Olympic, my Olympic semi final. 440 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:42,840 Right for the for the medal. Yeah, well, I fought the final 441 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,920 with the I had blood come at the corner of my eye from the busted 442 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,840 nerve underneath my cheekbone. And I fought a close fight with 443 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,560 a guy called Joel Casimir, who went on to become a Cuban, who 444 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,040 went on to become a world champion. 445 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,880 He's my friend who lives in Las Vegas. 446 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,400 That's that's why boxers are a different breed, because you 447 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,840 know, you, you hear so many guys like that where you know, you 448 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,160 took, you took a fight with an injury or maybe you got a bad 449 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240 injury in training camp. Sometimes. 450 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,240 I mean, if I've if I've gone over on my ankle, I won't do 451 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,480 stand up comedy. But boxers, if you go into a 452 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,600 fight as a boxer and there's nothing wrong, you'd think 453 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,400 there's something wrong with you. 454 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Yeah, you know what? I. 455 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,560 Mean but you know, it's like don't make excuses but you know 456 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,960 I fought 5 fights at the Olympics in two weeks and you 457 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,560 know my last fight was against the Cuban for the for the gold 458 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,920 medal and you know that was my last fight so the you know the 459 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,440 doctor looks at you that they that they off and he touched 460 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,960 your hand. He doesn't mean there's no 461 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,800 X-rays or anything they got yeah yeah. 462 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,320 And is he OK? I'm like yeah good. 463 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,840 So I didn't I couldn't feel anything here. 464 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,120 My teeth are all numb here. And you know, I'm not going to 465 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,280 be exclusive of this close fight. 466 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,040 We fought a close fight against the Cuban and as say we went 467 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,240 beyond become good, good, good friends to this day. 468 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,000 And we both got inducted in the Nevada Hall of Fame together 469 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,920 last year as well. So. 470 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,040 OK, he's a. Great guy. 471 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:04,080 So it after that I was seen at the at the Olympics by promoters 472 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,720 and I say I wanted to stay home but you know, it didn't work out 473 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,720 to stay in Belfast with Barney and then, you know, some English 474 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,400 promoters and we're interested. But there is the really the 475 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,640 truth is I was broke. I was unemployed, sang the dole. 476 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,160 The dole took my money off me going to the Olympics because 477 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,640 they said I wasn't fighting for the country. 478 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 You couldn't do that today. You couldn't do that today. 479 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Twice I went to the idiot and then I determined, he said, oh, 480 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,760 you're not fighting for us. I'm like, I'm fighting for the 481 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,040 whole country. Who did who? 482 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,360 Did you fight for at the Olympics? 483 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,000 I. Fought for Ireland. 484 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,920 OK, but so the the. Basically the boxing, boxing is 485 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,920 boxing is no, there was a people remember on this on the dole 486 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,240 office on the Shangle where they I went in, they said three weeks 487 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,480 I was going to be gone. The two for training camp then 488 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760 went to Seoul, Korea for for four weeks and I went to 489 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,120 Barcelona for four weeks and 92 Olympics and it took all my 490 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,600 money away from me and I was broke and I'm representing the 491 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,000 country North and South and and they couldn't do that to their 492 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,280 discrimination, but I still think. 493 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,200 Think of the press, the tension that would get. 494 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,200 I still think, I still a lot of people don't know this, but the 495 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,120 truth is this discrimination, even 20, that was 3032 years ago 496 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:16,120 for the Seoul Olympics and 20 years ago for the Barcelona 497 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:18,200 Olympics. It's discrimination if you ask 498 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,600 me, you know what I mean? And because because anybody who 499 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,600 knew knew sport back then, like rugby can become Ireland, boxing 500 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,680 when it goes to the Olympics, as all Ireland, when you go to the 501 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,040 Commonwealth Games, you go for Northern Ireland. 502 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,160 But as I say, I was a young, my first Olympics, I was 17 year 503 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,200 old and I was broke, didn't have nothing. 504 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,160 And I've gone to Olympics with a broke kid who and then all of a 505 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600 sudden you're on the Olympic team to give you a new track 506 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,440 suits new this, new that. I'm thinking I get all this new 507 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,880 stuff for free. That's fantastic. 508 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,440 I only I had like a black top with the with the blue bottoms. 509 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,760 It had nothing. Yeah, you get all, you get all 510 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,520 these sweat suits and stuff to try to make weight and I'm like, 511 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,960 this is better. It's easier to make weight like 512 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,240 where you're trying to put on 10 layers of clothes to make 513 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,440 weight. Well, I see the Commonwealth 514 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,880 Games in 1990 and New Zealand was Northern Ireland, I got the 515 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,680 gold and then 92 again. I was going to go pro but I 516 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,880 stayed till in the big 92 and then I after that I turned pro 517 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,960 and I, my manager Matt Tenley, he was my promoter manager was 518 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640 from here. And then he watched me at the 519 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,600 Olympics and he, he took the time to come over and see me. 520 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,320 He came to Dublin. I was at a like a function that 521 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680 night in Dublin. He came to lead me and offered 522 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 me a big contract and television. 523 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,480 And then he said to me two words that changed my mind forever. 524 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Was a guy called Eddie Fudge and he was my, he was, he trained 525 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,880 Joe Frazier back a day, Ken Norton, Leon Spinks, 3 guys that 526 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,400 beat Muhammad Ali actually. And he was 8082 years old and 527 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,240 he's, he took me on. And for him to take me on was 528 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,400 like going to the Premier League. 529 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,960 And people, they will say I was, I didn't want to leave, I want 530 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280 to stay in Belfast. And then all of a sudden Eddie 531 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,120 Fudge was here in Vegas and he was training Riddick Ball at the 532 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,280 time. He was a heavyweight champ of 533 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,480 the world. Yeah, remember that? 534 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,920 And a guy called, a guy called Mike McCallum, He was a three 535 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,560 time work champion from Jamaica. So I'm going to come in over 536 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040 here to train with these guys just by watching these guys. 537 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,200 And they all took me under the wing. 538 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,720 Mike McCallum was one of the greatest guys ever met. 539 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,360 He first since I met him day one. 540 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,800 He's like, oh, you're my brother. 541 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,680 He's Jamaican. Said you're McCullum. 542 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,520 I'm McCulloch. So you're we're brothers. 543 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,600 We're brothers and made me feel at home. 544 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,240 And then Eddie Fudge, the stuff he was teaching me is just out 545 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,000 of this world. And. 546 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,240 And that's the reason why I left and came to Las Vegas. 547 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,440 For Eddie Fudge, that's like somebody going from the like the 548 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,160 Irish League to the Premier League. 549 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,080 Yeah. And. 550 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,280 The big call up, and I guess you do. 551 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,960 You say no. You know, exactly. 552 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,440 I mean, who's going to say no to that? 553 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,880 But I think a lot of the time I hear about amateurs talking 554 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200 about the right time to make the step up the pros. 555 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,040 And it seems like you that opportunity came around the 556 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,160 right time because I know people can leave it too late or go too 557 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,160 early. I guess you can be a brilliant 558 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,080 amateur, go to the pros and it just doesn't work out. 559 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,920 No, the when I was my first Olympics as I was 17 when I 560 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,000 qualified and just the Olympics were late that year. 561 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960 They're going to probably going to be later this year as well. 562 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,760 They were like a total over. But you know, I was going to go. 563 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,520 I wanted to GoPro after that. But I was a kid. 564 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,480 I was I was I was just turning a teen. 565 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,720 I wet 7 half stone. I was about 5 foot 35 foot four. 566 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 And actually from 18 to 22 I grew like 3 inches or something 567 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,080 and I went I went from 7 half stone to 8 1/2 stone and had to 568 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840 cut to get down on. I mean, so I thought it, I 569 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,560 thought at 17187 half stone, I was a man. 570 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880 I was trying to grow this and I couldn't grow it. 571 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,000 Well, I'm 30, I'm 31 and I can get nowhere. 572 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,640 I can get nowhere. Near that, after two or three 573 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,120 days, I wanted one here to take it a lot. 574 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,440 So I want to GoPro then. And my amateur coach Harry 575 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,200 Robinson goes with 14 years. He said When you wait for a 576 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,480 couple, wait till next time you'll be fully grown and blah, 577 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,960 blah, blah. I'm like, I want to go pro, I 578 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,600 want to go pro. I just want to be a pro. 579 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680 I love the pros. I love spar with them. 580 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,080 I love I love being a pro, but he was right and I just I waited 581 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,080 and I matured and then when I just turned 22, then it became 582 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,400 up again and 92 and I was ready, you know, get the medal was it 583 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240 was a like the contract for me. You know what I mean? 584 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,200 Of course, without a medal, without a medal, wouldn't want 585 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,880 to get contract, would been like fighting for, you know, you've 586 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,080 been fighting for peanuts and you've been you had to get a day 587 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,680 job as well. Yeah and yeah. 588 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840 You couldn't. You couldn't really put in 100% 589 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,840 of of you working out like you're doing like a Premier 590 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840 League guys or full time. You have to. 591 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120 You'll be a professional fighter to get to the world level. 592 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,040 You got to be a full time pro. In in a way it's the same with 593 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,920 stand up. Like whenever I left, I was 594 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,280 doing stand up at night and sort of nine to five day job. 595 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,360 And the second I got out of that day job and went full time with 596 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,840 this, you just have so much more focus. 597 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440 It's it's so much, it's so much better. 598 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360 And you have to be full time and see, Bryan Carroll is an actor, 599 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,760 but he is acting stand up, more or less. 600 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,880 He's always funny in it. And that can relate. 601 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,840 Your stand up can lead the the, you know what I mean? 602 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200 You can lead to other jobs and then be in the entertainment 603 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320 being television industry. Of course, like Kevin, like 604 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Kevin Hart, you know what I mean? 605 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320 He's so funny. I'd take a few of his, I take a 606 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,760 few of his money, you know what I mean, to take a little, a 607 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,520 little, a little bit of that. What? 608 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,760 What was the reaction being from the Shankill? 609 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240 Living on the Shankill at that time, at the age of like 1718, 610 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,800 the Olympics was it. We, was it everywhere you went? 611 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800 Were people stopping you for a chat then? 612 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Where was the community very much behind you? 613 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480 They work because I don't know why I even know this, but it's 614 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,920 one of the first Olympics. I was asked to carry the Irish 615 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,440 flag. Do you know that part? 616 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,200 No, no A. Little bit of politics from the 617 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800 Shank. I was born and bred on Percy St 618 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360 actually on the Shanger Rd. I was actually born at home 619 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,840 because we didn't get the hospital time. 620 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,280 So I was actually born about, I think it's about 50 feet from 621 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800 the peace wall. But I was youngest member of the 622 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,880 team and an idiot. You know, I had the best record 623 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880 of the Irish, of the Irish boxing team. 624 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,560 I I thought I had 12 knockouts in a row at international level 625 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160 going up to the Olympics and, and they asked me to carry the 626 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,560 flag and I like the sale, think about it. 627 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,520 And I said no, I'll do it. I'll do it for sport. 628 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,840 Yeah. Yeah, and back an idiot, back an 629 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,160 idiot. Back home was like Beirut. 630 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,360 And I mean, it was, it was pretty. 631 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,280 And I come, I come on a shango politically. 632 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960 You're not thinking at that point, you're just, you're just 633 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,200 there. As a boxer, I'm a. 634 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Sportsman and my court is always being I'm a sportsman now a 635 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,480 politician. But for them as a come to me, I 636 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,240 know they expected me to say no and I know for a fact back then 637 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,880 they were trying to make a political thing. 638 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,720 Nevada said no imagine Nevada said no but I'll I'm willing to 639 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,080 fight for the country which I'm proud always proud of. 640 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,360 I fought for Ireland about 40 time and I'll stir about 10 641 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,360 times so. But I was proud of it. 642 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,400 But I think they were trying. I think they expected me to say 643 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,760 no because I've heard all these different stories about some of 644 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,680 my coaches over there. Or we shouldn't. 645 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,600 You shouldn't have did that. I've ridiculously carried that. 646 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,960 I'm thinking what, Yeah, one of my coaches said that and like 647 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280 didn't say it to me, but I heard it in the media, unlike I was. 648 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,640 I'm proud to fight for Ireland. I get to carry the flag into the 649 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320 open ceremony of the Olympics in front of 2 billion people around 650 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,320 it low to show the Northern Ireland people can come 651 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000 together, Ireland people can come together. 652 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,920 And I don't think I get the credit for doing it. 653 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,040 Not that I wanted any credit, but I didn't, even as I didn't 654 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560 even think about it, they said to me, I said to me and I said, 655 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,840 yeah, I'll do it. That's the way. 656 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,440 I just feel like. I think they were stunned that I 657 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,920 was like so quick and reacting to doing it. 658 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,200 And I said, yeah, no problem, I'll do it just for sport. 659 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,640 I'm a sportsman, not a politician, and there's no 660 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,960 problem. At all. 661 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,480 What is the backlash then? None. 662 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,520 Even. I read stories about my parents 663 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,040 get hassle and stuff like that, but that was all lies. 664 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,360 But the truth was it was all lies. 665 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,680 I totally guess I come back from the Olympics media didn't get a 666 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680 medal. I get I won like 2 fights, 667 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,480 didn't get a medal. I'm high quote quote a high 668 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,160 field where where I lived and the Shankle Rd Defenders flute 669 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,400 band walked me down. I was in like a bus down to the 670 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Shankle Rangers supporters club and had a party for me. 671 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,000 Is that bitterness? No. 672 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,040 Well, no, definitely. Not well, there you go. 673 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400 That's and I'm the Shagger Rd Defender flute band. 674 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,560 And then Davey Larmery was in RGM. 675 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840 He was, if he won like their Commonwealth gold back in the 676 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,560 80s and stuff. He was a boxer and he had the 677 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,920 Shagger Rd Supporters Club had a big party for me. 678 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,120 Well, you get support from both sides as as well both sides. 679 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,360 I've always, I've always had, I've always had support from 680 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,880 both sides because you know, would say I carried the flag in 681 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,640 the Olympics and I carried the Commonwealth Games flag in the 682 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680 closing ceremony in 1990. So I've carried. 683 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,280 Didn't even mention that one. They also by that point they're 684 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,120 like, you have the flag, trust me. 685 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,320 But I've had people come here and said, do you carry the Irish 686 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,000 flag? I'm like, yeah, like I say, why? 687 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,480 I'm like no no just I just read something like. 688 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,920 And also anybody else in that position that would give you 689 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,520 grief for that or ask you why you did that? 690 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960 If you were like, do do you want to carry the Irish flag of the 691 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,760 Olympics? They would say yes, I'll do it. 692 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,000 You know, you know, nobody would not do it. 693 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,120 No, it's the Olympics. It's the Olympics. 694 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,159 And you know how many people get to go to the Olympics? 695 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,760 Yeah. And then I'm honoured to say 696 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,639 I've heard of their fighter not going to mention their names. 697 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,199 Fighters over there fought for The Who won gold medals for the 698 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,880 Commonwealth Games and didn't stand in the anthem and say it's 699 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,040 not their anthem and their flag. Like, yeah, yeah. 700 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Like seriously, imagine me stand there, you know, representing 701 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,639 Ireland since stuff like that. No, you should be honoured to be 702 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,120 fighting for the country. You should be honoured to be 703 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520 there and you what? You know, you don't have to like 704 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,160 the flag where you can respect the country. 705 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,080 From Ireland. I'll say to people, I'm from 706 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,680 Ireland, I'm Irish, Northern Irish. 707 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,400 It's called Northern Ireland for a reason. 708 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,400 Yeah, was was at around that time in like the late 80's, the 709 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,200 early 90s when you, when you were sort of when you were 710 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,200 coming up, when you were maybe starting your pro career, was 711 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,640 that closely followed by the press at home? 712 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,440 Because I feel like now there's so much social media. 713 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,440 So, you know, fighters that are still amateur at the very start 714 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,320 of their professional career get a lot of press. 715 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,760 People want to read about it, hear about it, there's podcasts, 716 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,360 there's all that kind of thing. Was it were you kind of always 717 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,680 followed or was it once you started really making a 718 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:47,040 statement in the pros? No, I was, I was when I was I 719 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,640 was 14 when I'm when my first Irish championship for like 3 720 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,840 years I was getting robbed every year and I kept just kept 721 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,840 getting working hard, working hard every year. 722 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,600 Couldn't he win the county Antrims right? 723 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,560 Had to win the country and you have to win the Ulster thing or 724 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,000 the All Irelands and I couldn't. I get robbed of a year but 725 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,320 didn't put me off. Yeah. 726 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,360 And then the first, the first year I get to the All Irelands 727 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,920 14. I won the Irish Championships 728 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,480 every year until I left, I mean 1415161718192021 and then I came 729 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,560 here and it didn't, it didn't put a damper on me to stop the 730 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560 stop box. Then I kept on going, kept on 731 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,640 working harder, kept on running up with Lane current up the Bank 732 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680 of the mountains. And I remember people used to 733 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000 walk the dogs up there and they're like, they've seen me 734 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,240 like after I made it. And they're like, now we see why 735 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,280 you were doing a lot of hard work. 736 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,200 I'm like, I didn't, I didn't have nothing. 737 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,280 I had no money, had nothing. And you know, I went to went to 738 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,040 YTP scheme for a year, did learning their trainer. 739 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,800 I didn't need a scheme job for a year. 740 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,120 And so I learned some, some stuff if I needed it. 741 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,400 But as 15 years old I said to my myself I want to be the WBC 742 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,800 champion of the world. I'm not disrespecting IBF, WS, 743 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,080 WBS, but I wanted the belt that Muhammad Ali has the WBC belt 744 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,000 and I got it. You know I'm the first Irish 745 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,880 meal ever to one of WC belt. The only person he's did since 746 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,640 as Kitty Taylor from she got a WBC belt and then the 1st and 747 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,840 still the only Irish man ever to win one in the history of the 748 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:25,480 sport of boxing. Let me interrupt the podcast 749 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,600 very quickly with a very short message. 750 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,520 We have charity sponsors now on the podcast because I guess it's 751 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,600 a bad time for businesses to sponsor podcast. 752 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,080 So we do a charity read. We've been doing that for the 753 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,600 last few podcasts. We're sort of compiling a big 754 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,840 list of everybody that gets in touch and we're going to start 755 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,920 rolling those out from probably Wednesday's podcast, Wednesday, 756 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Friday, all that kind of thing. Normal service will resume with 757 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,720 those. If you have a charity or a 758 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:55,000 fundraiser or you know, you just want to highlight something you 759 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 think's really important, get in touch with this 760 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,160 teawithmepodcast@gmail.com, whatever it is. 761 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,040 We'll we'll get through as many of them as possible. 762 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,760 We'll do the reads if possible. Keep them coming in. 763 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,560 And if I can give you any sort of 764 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,880 platformilldoitsothatsthemepodcast@gmail.com. Back to the podcast with Wayne 765 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:22,920 McCulloch. Fill in not in between for me, 766 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,120 the the point where you know, you come up, you start your pro 767 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920 career. What what's a moment where you 768 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480 go, this is this is going to happen for me. 769 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,200 I mean, long term success, big fights, fighting in big venues. 770 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000 Was there a particular turning point or a particular win where 771 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,280 you went? Yeah, this is this is me, sort 772 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,240 of. Yeah, well, the truth is I'm 773 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,040 going to get another cup of tea here. 774 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,840 By the way, don't worry, it's like 15. 775 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,200 I remembered my friends back home. 776 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,760 I said to them, I'm going to leave, I'm going to leave. 777 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,200 I'm going to the Olympics. I'm going to go to the Olympics 778 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,240 and get them and get a medal. Maybe. 779 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:02,000 I said it may not be my first, maybe the second Olympics, but. 780 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,800 And they all looked at me. But then what? 781 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,520 The new I trained hard. Even this 1516 year old and a 782 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,280 couple of my friends are. Would you say they're in the 783 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,720 paramilitaries? In the you know, you might call 784 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:19,320 them the the the adult scouts. Yeah, but these guys to this day 785 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,120 respect me because some people have a choice. 786 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,800 I mean, well, you go when you go in West Belfast, either 787 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,320 Protestant, Cathy, you don't have a choice. 788 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,680 The choice is let's go out in winter time at 3 O clock in the 789 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,520 afternoon, pitch black almost. And what do you do? 790 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,400 You have something to do. You get into trouble or you do 791 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,440 this or do that and you, you know, you maybe sign up, send 792 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,200 your life away and sign up with an organisation or something. 793 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,560 And, and you know, nobody's ever disrespected me that way. 794 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,520 You know what I did and I've always did it for everybody. 795 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080 And unfortunately other people don't have a choice. 796 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,880 But I wanted to be a boxer at 15. 797 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,680 I wanted to be champion of Ward. And I stood, I remember, stand 798 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,120 the front door. I'm proud of where I come from. 799 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880 I used to stand the front door and I used to say to myself, 800 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,160 there's got to be some better than this because I just thought 801 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,040 all the fighting and the shooting and the bombs and and. 802 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,000 I've seen it. I've seen people being shot. 803 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,040 I've seen bombs gone off and her bombs gone off all the time. 804 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,680 And I just thought, I mean, I get on with each other. 805 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640 Yeah, it was just, it was hard. And I understand it's bitterness 806 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,320 in both sides. I know that there's all, 807 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,080 there'll always be bitterness on both sides and unfortunately 808 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,360 there, but there's, I'd say 90% of people don't mind living 809 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,160 together, you know what I mean? Yeah, and, and it's I mean, you, 810 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:38,320 you must like it when you hear news like a couple of months 811 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,120 ago, they they, they said they're going to start to lower 812 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,120 the peace walls just by a bit. But things like. 813 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,600 That listen to me, peace Wall, I said to somebody about two years 814 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,240 ago, I come in 89, you took down the Berlin Wall, but they won't 815 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,040 take them down the peace wall. And someone, somebody said to 816 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,360 me, it's a tourist trap. It's a tourist. 817 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Trap Thousand percent, 1000. You know what, I'd be the first 818 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000 one to stand up and say if there's real peace, take the 819 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,800 wall down. Because the wall, say I was born 820 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,120 in Percy St where the wall was erected, done by on the street. 821 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,000 That street used to be. People used to live in the same 822 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,320 street. So when that wall comes down, if 823 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,200 there's if there's a Catholic on one side close to the wall when 824 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,440 it comes down and a Protestant living the other side of the 825 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,000 wall close to the wall, are they going to kill each other? 826 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,040 They're going to want to live together. 827 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,040 Yeah, yeah. I think they'll want to live 828 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,280 together, I really do. I really think. 829 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,040 About the tourist thing, I mean that's bang on. 830 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,120 Like I did the big bust, you know, like the big red Buster 831 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,160 had a few minutes that were that I'd never seen Belfast for 832 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,440 before. I took them on that and I was 833 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,640 like, I don't know if I'll find this interesting because I 834 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,840 thought I knew everything, but I learned a lot on it. 835 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,480 But whenever it went down, down the Peace Wall, Townsend Street, 836 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,760 is that what that's where the Peace Wall is? 837 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right down right, actually was they say it 838 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,000 was, It was higher than the Berlin Wall and longer. 839 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,560 It it honestly felt like you were, you were the way people 840 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,440 were watching it. It felt like the way you, you, 841 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,480 you. You look at enclosures in the 842 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,560 zoo, the way people were taking photos for tourists, the way. 843 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,760 They were looking, they closed the learning where they closed 844 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,640 the gates up right and and they closed the gates overnight. 845 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,680 So you're locked up. But this is my problem. 846 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,960 How come rich people always live together and there was no walls 847 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,680 separating? Yeah, yeah. 848 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,760 No, you're right. The working class people, my 849 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,680 friends over here, a guy was called Romolo Fusco. 850 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120 He's he's that fish and chip restaurants back home. 851 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440 He's dead. Fusco's. 852 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,960 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there were all 2 853 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,560 fish and chips. Yeah, his two sons got ice cream 854 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,000 as well. And his two sons, Frank and 855 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,440 Tony, are in their 60s and they've lived here for like 40 856 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,240 years. But you know, he spent Romolo, 857 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:46,320 He had a, he had a Protestant wife, but he spent more time on 858 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,840 the Shanga Rd because he's a boxer as well. 859 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,400 He spent more time socialising on the Shanga Rd because he said 860 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,160 anybody else got together, working class people, the ones 861 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,560 he always hung out with each other got together. 862 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,000 And you what? I grew up in the 80s and 90s. 863 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,560 I have a good friend from the Falls Rd. 864 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,080 We used to hang out together. So and then all of a sudden, say 865 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,640 in 69 before I was born to put the wall down to separate them, 866 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,480 then working class people who socialise together. 867 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,320 So what do they do? Blame the working class people, 868 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,280 but the rich people can live together up and you know, up in 869 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,160 cultural or up and, you know, wherever the fancy areas. 870 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560 So how come they live? How come they can live next door 871 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,240 to each other? And we couldn't. 872 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,160 We could. And then when I said the 873 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,720 Americans like, what do you mean the rich people weren't 874 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,040 separate? I'm like, no, they live next to 875 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,640 each other. They put the wall down the 876 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,440 working class neighbourhood and that was it. 877 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,880 Like what I'm like, yes. And the Americans don't 878 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,200 understand. They always say you get the 879 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,360 English out, get the English out. 880 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,600 I said there's no English, Sir. Yeah, I said it's like I say 881 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,000 Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland, part of the 882 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,040 United Kingdom. That's the part of the British 883 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,000 like Britain on 3/4 of the world at one time. 884 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040 So it can it's it was hard for their market to get in their 885 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,520 head. They just thought get the 886 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,640 British, get the English out, get the British out. 887 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,800 I said no Northern Ireland, British and like, what do you 888 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,680 mean? I'm like it's on the UK rule. 889 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,440 I said it's under United Kingdom. 890 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,520 Do we want it? Probably yes. 891 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,240 Do we want it not want it? No, We don't know. 892 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,560 People do want people don't want it. 893 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,840 But I think it's better off just left the way it was. 894 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,600 Yeah. So it's hard to, it's hard to, 895 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,840 it's hard to explain that to somebody. 896 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,680 And I don't explain to anybody of items. 897 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,520 If I'm only going to see them for 5 minutes, I'm not going to 898 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,160 explain. All that stuff. 899 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,160 But I mean some sometimes I get confused when I'm explaining to 900 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,280 people as well, like you say Americans, you know, they're 901 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,840 like, what is a political situation? 902 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,920 I'm like, good question. I don't know if people. 903 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,720 Good question, but I'd be the first, at least I'd be the first 904 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,720 one to stand and say take the wall down, Take the wall down 905 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,000 and I've been sent it for years, The wall. 906 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,920 If there's real peace in Northern Ireland, take the wall 907 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,200 down. I mean, boxing seems to be 908 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600 something that totally cuts through religion. 909 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,080 Like anytime you hear, anytime you hear boxers locally talking 910 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,640 about the way they grew up, the, the people they trained with it, 911 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,320 it was always cross community. And a bit like, so I, I, I, I 912 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,280 played football, still do. That's my sport. 913 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,240 And it was never an issue. Any team you played for was 914 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,680 basically cross community, but you wouldn't even have thought 915 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,040 of it as that, you know, technically. 916 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,600 I was football like you 2. I played football well through 917 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,640 secondary school, high school, and I loved it. 918 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,680 I wanted to be a football player. 919 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,480 I did when I was really young. I was good at it, but it wasn't. 920 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,560 I wasn't good enough. Who would, who, who were you 921 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,080 thinking? Who Who would you have played 922 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,520 for if you were like like run the? 923 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,760 Of course up the street where my wife comes from was Jordy Best. 924 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,920 And I mean like, and he was sort of before and he was like 60s 925 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560 and stuff, but but everybody wanted to be Jordy Best. 926 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,000 And I mean my, of course my team is, is Liverpool. 927 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,840 Right, OK, I'm I'm united so. 30, I know 30 years we have to 928 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,240 get, we have to give it to this year. 929 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,760 So you have to start, even begrudgingly, I think you've got 930 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,080 it. You've got to just give them it. 931 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,880 You got to give them. It and I will. 932 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,680 I think we've played so well. I mean, but but back in the day, 933 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,120 I know I had the Ray Clemens and Bruce and Bruce Galbraf that I 934 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,960 was I love goalkeeper. I was goalkeeper to the school, 935 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,640 primary school believe it or not, 5 foot 6 but I was good 936 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,720 with my hands. Good hands. 937 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,120 Yeah, you know, Kenny Douglation, all that was my the 938 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200 old school back in the day. And that was my my team. 939 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,800 And I've always supported them. Most of my friends were one week 940 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,760 this next week of that. I was never proud my whole life. 941 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,760 Yeah. 3030 years something one leg so. 942 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,280 They like to. Give it to have to finish it. 943 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,480 No really, finished only a few games to go anyway. 944 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,520 I feel like Liverpool fans will be the number one contributors 945 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,160 to coronavirus, you know, trying to trying to get a vaccination 946 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,560 for it. I feel like Liverpool fans will 947 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,400 fund that just so we can get the Premiership back up and running. 948 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,680 I think, I think Clap has been, he's been outstanding the game. 949 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,480 He's great. Yeah. 950 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040 Have you? Very jealous, No, But if he, if 951 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,960 he loses, he's very respectful. He's not, you know, and he if he 952 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,040 wins, he's respectful. And that's good to Brendan 953 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,920 Rodgers. Brendan Rodgers and all this, He 954 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,120 wasn't the greatest for us. No, Wayne. 955 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,800 I think Brendan Rodgers was probably still learning. 956 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,440 That was the problem. You know, he's he's a better 957 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,880 manager now, but he was kind of he was still kind of raw when he 958 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,120 was with you see now you. Need to put a team together? 959 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040 See, when you do get home, when is it like sorry, I know home is 960 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,360 kind of American now, but whenever you get back to 961 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,000 Belfast, do you have like a go to thing? 962 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,400 Like is there a cafe you like to go to? 963 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,720 Is there a place you go for straight away? 964 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,480 Sort of bread. Just sort. 965 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,280 Of relative well it's you can buy this stuff over here and I 966 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,800 like chocolate and biscuits will call them cookies to call them 967 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,560 cookies over here yeah, we call them we call them biscuits, but 968 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,960 biscuits over here are scones. And cookies can be biscuits here 969 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,680 as well, so yeah. Yeah, so it's that's weird, but 970 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,400 you know, any came any vegans over here? 971 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,080 That's like a whole suitcase full of chocolate and and Pot 972 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,400 Noodle. My daughter, my daughter was 973 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,280 born here, but she loves Pot Noodle, right. 974 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,520 And, and potato, teeto cheese, onion, of course, unbelievable. 975 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,360 And of course the tea bags. But that never changed the food, 976 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,800 the chocolate and the candy, the colour candy over here that it's 977 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,760 way better back home. And my American friends who come 978 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,840 over there for my fights and stuff, my, they come over and 979 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,040 they agree with me. They think the chocolate, the 980 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,800 chocolate's way better. The chips are way better so. 981 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,960 The chips. The chips, they think. 982 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,200 It's a no cleaner the food, and not to say the food, there's a 983 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120 lot of grease in the fish and chip and all that's normal, but 984 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,440 it's normal. Yeah. 985 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,680 That's weird. And they can't believe that you 986 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,960 get like in homeworks hotels, you get your dinner, it's like 987 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,840 you get there with three different types of potatoes with 988 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,080 it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 989 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,080 Well, and also an ulcer fry is just different types of bread, 990 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,120 you know, with a week. Well, they love, they love that. 991 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,720 They love that too. But say, but but say, it took us 992 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,120 years to get used to the American food. 993 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,360 It was different even even like chicken and beef and all, it 994 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,960 just tastes a little bit different and then your taste 995 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,640 bud change, I mean and then you get let's. 996 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,240 Do you have any mates from Northern Ireland out there in 997 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:54,200 the States? The first it took us away, took 998 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,800 me about three years before I I could settle down. 999 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,000 My wife, she was 19 and I was just turned 22 and we didn't 1000 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,240 know one person the whole country. 1001 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,920 I come over here for three out of three-year contract, think 1002 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,920 I'm going home, I'm going home, I'm going to go back home, get a 1003 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,240 gym, you know, get my house. And that's me and done three 1004 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:11,880 years. And then as you're getting 1005 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,720 older, you go back and forward. The first two years I spent more 1006 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:17,760 time in Belfast. It was I, I've came here in 1007 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,720 February 93. And then by June I was fighting 1008 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,320 in Belfast, September fought in Dublin. 1009 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,440 But I still, I spent most of my time over there. 1010 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,960 Yeah. But about a year I went after I 1011 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,920 was here, I was at the gym training and guy walks over to 1012 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,600 me and says that guy speaks like you like what? 1013 00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:38,280 Rumble, Rumble of Fusco Rumble. The guy told you about Yes, yes. 1014 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,840 And he was, he was a boxer. He was in the gym. 1015 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,680 And I'm like, oh, and The funny thing is we just bought our 1016 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,680 first house about 8 miles from the Las Vegas Strip just to get 1017 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,960 away from the Las Vegas Strip. Yeah. 1018 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,840 And he lived about a mile around the corner. 1019 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,080 Unbelievable. And every Saturday night he made 1020 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,080 fish and chips at home. We went for fish and chips and 1021 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,400 he passed away when he was 79 years old. 1022 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,880 So the two sons are in their 60s. 1023 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:09,040 But he never left the recipe and his his chippy was back in the 1024 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,400 day was doing thousands of every month like a lot of money back 1025 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520 in the 50s. 60s famous. Yeah, yeah. 1026 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,840 Yeah, but. And he was supposed to leave his 1027 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,680 on his way to at least on his way to at 79, fell asleep, never 1028 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000 woke up again, good health, he worked out and stuff. 1029 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,280 Yeah, but he was supposed to leave the rescue to my wife. 1030 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,520 Oh, no, He wasn't going to leave his two sons, even leave it to 1031 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,200 my wife. And he didn't leave it. 1032 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,800 It's all the batter, you know what I mean? 1033 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640 I like to think if he had of you, you, you and your wife 1034 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,240 would have opened up a we are we Fusco's chippy on the Las Vegas 1035 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,680 Strip. The truth is, you Gordon 1036 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,120 Ramsay's got one on the strip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 1037 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,040 Know, I know Gordon Ramsay really well. 1038 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,760 He's a good guy, but he it's like $15 fish and chips. 1039 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,760 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 1040 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,240 Yeah. I went to Vegas on my honeymoon 1041 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,720 last summer. It's great. 1042 00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,800 I mean, what'd you say? We stayed in the area. 1043 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,240 Oh yes, that's all that place is. 1044 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,080 Sensational city, that place now. 1045 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,560 I guess. Even hope those strips off the 1046 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,520 lights with some of the lights, some of the lights on this 1047 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,640 morning I was at the airport. Someone dropped off my nephew. 1048 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,160 He's been trying to get out for a week. 1049 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,680 But the lights, most of the lights are often stripped. 1050 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,400 Hotels are closed. Ari was great. 1051 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,120 It was great when we were there, like. 1052 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,400 Really beautiful. That's called city centre. 1053 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,760 It's like a city inside the city. 1054 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,080 Yeah, and they want. They. 1055 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,760 So go ahead. Oh, it's going to say the when 1056 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,920 we were there, when we were there. 1057 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,480 We were there in July, last July. 1058 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,600 It was just too hot, you know what I mean? 1059 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,640 It was. Something over your head? 1060 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,280 I know, I know, I know. But a lot of people have to go 1061 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,760 in junior live because that's the holidays. 1062 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,560 Yeah, that's where we went. My wife's a teacher. 1063 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,200 The first year I was here, we were at say I was home. 1064 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,360 June, I was mostly home. Always say I was home, it was 1065 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,840 too hot. I mean the first year was too 1066 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,360 hot and then it was just crazy the heat. 1067 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,720 I got the 119° them, yeah. And that was I was. 1068 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,440 But now I can go out running like I can go outside and run 1069 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,840 100. Degrees. 1070 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,000 No problem. Yeah, drop there, but your blood 1071 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,160 gets really, really thin when it gets to, when it gets to 60°, 1072 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,040 now you're like, what's cold and freezing? 1073 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's funny. 1074 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,800 I just, I just want to ask you finally what what life after 1075 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,440 boxing is now? We talked about it like a bit 1076 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,920 earlier, but do you, are you just training a range of people 1077 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,120 at the minute from people that just do boxing as a hobby to 1078 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,120 actual fighters, people that are competing or what's what's? 1079 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,240 Going on I've trained a few fighters since like 2006. 1080 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:45,160 My first pro was Alex Arthur from Scotland. 1081 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,560 He actually won the Super featherweight double belt. 1082 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,280 So with me, so I had him first he came over here and trained 1083 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,520 and then I had two Maxine guys, 1 fought for a championship and 1084 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,520 lost and the other one did them and then their retired night 1085 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,640 too. But I trained the heavyweight up 1086 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,080 until last year. Actually he was, it's just let's 1087 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,000 just say he wanted to do his own roadshow. 1088 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,320 And again, no, he took a fight in his own. 1089 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,600 He got knocked out. I wasn't with him. 1090 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,200 He got knocked out cold. Right. 1091 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,280 And you know, if you if you my coach was the type of guy that 1092 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,640 you either listen to me to walk at the front door, you know, 1093 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,800 it's like club or Liverpool, you listen to me or go somewhere 1094 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,200 else. Yeah, you have to listen. 1095 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,200 You have a coach for a reason, of course, you know. 1096 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:32,440 And Eddie Fudge, you say Eddie trained, he trained 20 world 1097 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,080 champions told and say that you're talking. 1098 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,560 I say back to the day of Joe Frazier and and Ken Norton with 1099 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,240 her back in the 60s and 70s who who beat Muhammad Ali. 1100 00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:45,080 And then the modern day was me. And he had, I say Mike McCallum, 1101 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,080 Montel Gryphon world champions. And I was his last World 1102 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,400 champion and his last the only one to give a letter to actually 1103 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,640 signed letter to be a quote someday because I was close to 1104 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,560 him until he passed away. He was 90 years old when he 1105 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,840 passed away. Incredible. 1106 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,320 So but he was he was in, it's hard to describe me have to sit 1107 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,960 down, talk to you for about 5 hours because he used to sit 1108 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,440 down and talk to me about he was born like 1912, back in the 30s 1109 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,760 forties when he black guy, you know, struggled to get one 1110 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,280 fighter and nobody would come to him and because they wanted to 1111 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,440 do their own show, know what I mean? 1112 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,200 Yes. And then and then when he 1113 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,760 started telling people and get successful, then all of a sudden 1114 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,600 he was just swamped and he had to get like four or five 1115 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,000 assistants. But so I want to be like him, 1116 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,520 know what I mean? I want I don't train people the 1117 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,200 way I fought. And Eddie was the same way, the 1118 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,480 same Montel Gryphon, the world champion, Mike McCallum ready go 1119 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,000 and me rolling in the camp together when I came here. 1120 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,480 And we all had different styles, you know, we're all, one was a 1121 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,600 boxer, 1 was defensive, I was aggressive, you know. 1122 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,680 Yeah, if you train anybody the exact same way, then we're all 1123 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,880 different. You know, that's why you have 1124 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,720 different players on the on the football team. 1125 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:57,320 I mean the 100 forwards, strikers, goalkeepers. 1126 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,040 So that's, you have to be different. 1127 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,800 And I do that. And my number one thing, I teach 1128 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,560 the defence. Yeah, that's like American way 1129 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,360 defence. Defence, Yeah, yeah, I've been 1130 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,760 watching a lot of American football documentaries, so I 1131 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,080 would also probably say defence at the minute. 1132 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,560 That's OK, I'm OK with that. No. 1133 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:19,080 So I teach a lot of defence and say right now I'm I'm trained 1134 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,440 about 5 or 6 amateurs. They're going to have their 1135 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,320 first fights in May. Well, probably not May now 1136 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,320 because of what's going on. Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be 1137 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,360 in LA They're. Fighting over Skype. 44 That's 1138 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,160 too funny. Four got four guys and one girl 1139 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,760 and and then I don't have any pros a minute, but I say I train 1140 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,840 from kids from four years old of any age. 1141 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,560 Actually, it's my first kid was four years old, 97 and up till 1142 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,960 my oldest client right now is 73 years old. 1143 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,240 Who's a pilot who could knock anybody's head off the 1144 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:56,080 shoulders. Well, that answers spars. 1145 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,160 That answers that question. I was going to wrap it up by 1146 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,680 saying if I next time I make it out to Vegas, I'd love to do a 1147 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,240 session with you. I've never really been in the 1148 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,080 ring before and I was going. To say it all. 1149 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:07,080 Let let me get along with that 73 year old, but if, if, if 1150 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,200 you're if he's got something about him, don't let me find him 1151 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,400 because I can't fight. Oh, he can. 1152 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,280 He can fight. But even even the girls I have 1153 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,480 can. Fight the seven-year old, I'll 1154 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960 fight the seven-year old he. Can fight too. 1155 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,680 It's actually. All right, maybe I'll just 1156 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,280 watch. No, not any drama. 1157 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,560 Do you know Freddie Prince, Junior? 1158 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,400 Do you? Yeah, yeah. 1159 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,840 Buffet. He was in Buffy development, 1160 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,360 Sir. Michelle. 1161 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,520 Sir Michelle, I train, I've been training. 1162 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,960 Freddie and I trained. Sir and I trained the kids, 1163 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,920 Rocky and their and their and their kids. 1164 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,440 Their daughter Charlotte, he's 9. 1165 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:35,560 I train him every week. I'm training for Freddie for 1166 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,120 five years. Joe like 5 years. 1167 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,880 My wife just came in there five years. 1168 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,520 So I teach him how to fight too. And I usually train him at their 1169 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,480 gym or go to his house. Right, so he has like a gym in 1170 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,600 his house. Well, I guess. 1171 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,240 Everybody. Yeah, but it comes it comes to 1172 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:50,880 the gym. But he. 1173 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,320 But recently I went to his house because the kids were busy at 1174 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,040 school. You know what I mean? 1175 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,880 Yeah. And I just went in this backyard 1176 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,280 and trained them there. But Freddie can Freddie and can 1177 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,320 fight too. I want Freddie and Brian 1178 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,960 Calendar do an exhibition charity function and they. 1179 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,400 They're talking about it. Yes. 1180 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,560 Had to get them together but they would because they're about 1181 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,960 the same size. We're about to see him as well. 1182 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,240 111 stone each. And I think it'll be good to 1183 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,000 raise money for charity, especially after happening right 1184 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,560 now. I mean, yeah, this could be, 1185 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,240 this could be a push to get this done. 1186 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,920 We've been talking about comedians boxing locally in 1187 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,160 Belfast for years. You know, should we book the 1188 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,160 Ulster Hall and do like a charity boxing night? 1189 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,880 If we ever get that arranged, you know are going to have to 1190 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,720 Skype. But I tell you what, Bryan 1191 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,560 Callen can really fight. Oh, yeah, yeah. 1192 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,440 I mean, I know that his kind of character is to like, you know, 1193 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,360 always make fun of himself. But you can like for his age, 1194 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,640 he's in great shape. He's got great defence, He's 52 1195 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,280 year old, got great defence. He moves around, he can hit 1196 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,640 crack hard and he really is. I'm not just saying him and 1197 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,080 Freddie are are both. I would put them in the ring 1198 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,800 with the Sparber pros. Everything. 1199 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,520 Yeah, that's what it is. The Sparber pros and the pros 1200 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,280 didn't take it easy on them, you know, so they're they're, they 1201 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,680 know what they're doing. Yeah. 1202 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,240 And I teach people to begin to ring in the way they're doing 1203 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,800 what I mean, whether you're getting there for fun and 1204 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,560 they're never going to fight, you know, I mean, yeah, of 1205 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,080 course the charity, the charity match you could do, but they're 1206 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,920 never going to fight. But can he fight? 1207 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,440 Yeah, yeah. Bryan Callen's a good comedian. 1208 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,040 Great comedian. Phenomenon, but. 1209 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,440 He can fight like a Mother Hubbard. 1210 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,760 Honestly one of my favourites. He's one of my favourites. 1211 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,320 So so so funny. That's. 1212 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,320 Good. No, he's brilliant. 1213 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,520 He's a funny guy. He's brilliant and a dealing for 1214 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,040 him. No man dealing for him. 1215 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,560 When cheers for doing this doing this podcast, I really 1216 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,720 appreciate it taking a bit of sitting. 1217 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,160 There having a cup of tea just and still, I guess like I'm 1218 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,440 like, I'm smart thinking like this. 1219 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,080 There we have it, sippers, the tea with me podcast episode with 1220 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,880 William McCulloch. What a what a gentleman, you 1221 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,520 know, really, really nice guy. William was just really sound 1222 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,760 about doing the podcast as well. Like you can definitely, you can 1223 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,520 definitely see in here, whenever I say, you know, I do stand up 1224 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,720 and he's like, oh, you stand up. You can definitely hear me go. 1225 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,600 He doesn't know who I am. You know, there's definitely 1226 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,480 that moment. But it's all good. 1227 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,000 You know what I mean? It's all good because I probably 1228 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,880 should have explained before the podcast, hey, this is who I am. 1229 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,800 But because we went from Northern Ireland that I went, 1230 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,760 hell no, you know, and it turns out he didn't. 1231 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,040 And experiences like that keep your feet in the ground. 1232 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,840 They keep your feet in the ground. 1233 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,280 Wayne was Wayne was brilliant, real nice guy to chat to. 1234 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,240 And actually when the podcast finished, we just ended up like, 1235 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,920 you know, chatting a bit after it. 1236 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,280 Then he he's somebody I think I'll I'll keep in touch with 1237 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,040 definitely next time I'm in the states doing shows. 1238 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,880 Be good to do some sort of some sort of training session with 1239 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,880 him. As long as I pointed out as 1240 00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,720 it's, it's fighting children or, or, or the elderly either or, 1241 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,280 I'd be happy. I'd, I'd fancy my chances. 1242 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,400 But Wayne was great. Then I, I, I want to get that 1243 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,360 sort of diverse line up of guests on the on, on the 1244 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:15,920 podcast, whether whether they're from sport or or TV or, or 1245 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,920 honestly, whatever. Like before lockdown, our plan 1246 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,840 was to get load of professors on. 1247 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,920 You know, and educate me about some stuff that I don't really 1248 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,440 know about, like I don't know, space and eggs, you know, exotic 1249 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,280 animals. I mean, I've got tiger King for 1250 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,200 that. That's a fairpoint. 1251 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,800 But but we're going to get more people on and we always want to 1252 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,080 hear from the listeners who, who you think would be would be a 1253 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,160 good guess. You can leave a comment on if 1254 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,280 you're watching this on the YouTube or, or get in touch me 1255 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,560 on Twitter or whatever and we'll try because I'm asking people 1256 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,160 and pretty much everyone's like, yeah, alright. 1257 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,440 One of my favourite comedians, Todd Barry, has agreed to do the 1258 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,200 podcast. I'm recording that tomorrow. 1259 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,160 All being well, you know, things can change, but I'm really, 1260 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,200 really looking forward to that. We've got an episode with JC 1261 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:09,560 Stewart coming out next week. JC is is a singer-songwriter and 1262 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,320 a damn good one as well. He's from Macrofelt and he's 1263 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,520 he's blowing up at the minute. He's got himself a real good 1264 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,720 record deal. He he's he's on pretty much 1265 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,440 every list that's out at the minute of like, you know, 10 1266 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,320 artists to watch or five people to keep your eye on. 1267 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,760 And and that's like worldwide, you know, so he he he's a lovely 1268 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,840 guy. I think I think people will will 1269 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,360 really, really take to him on the on the podcast, whether you 1270 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,360 are just fine know about him or you like his music and and you 1271 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,760 know him. He he writes with Lewis Capaldi 1272 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,480 nearly Roe for Westlife as as we talk about. 1273 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,480 But again, it's just an it's just a nice enjoyable, enjoyable 1274 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,200 chat. Then I'm going to do an episode 1275 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,600 by myself during the week as well. 1276 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,280 Probably the Friday one I'll maybe just do solo and we'll get 1277 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,040 into my head and see what's happening because things are 1278 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,000 happening DIY mainly, but I'll be doing listeners questions as 1279 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,600 well because I want to start interacting again with all you 1280 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,880 guys. I, I do want to do listeners 1281 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,600 questions when I have a guest on, but it's time management, 1282 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,080 you know, I only want to keep people on for like 45 minutes 1283 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,480 during an interview. And I don't want to be like 40 1284 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,080 minutes in and they're making a great point and I go, I'm going 1285 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,040 to have to stop you there. Somebody wants to know, like I 1286 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,080 don't want to have the Dalai Lama on, which probably will 1287 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,920 happen. And I don't have to stop and go, 1288 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,680 mate. Chris and Kalibaki wants to 1289 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,520 know, would you rather have a hand prominently stuck in your 1290 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,040 forehead or a toe under your nose? 1291 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,600 What would you what would you prefer, though, you know, so 1292 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,800 I'll, we'll do an episode with just me during the week and 1293 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,760 we'll do listen to questions and mentioned early the podcast got 1294 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,760 into the Top 40 of the UK podcast charts. 1295 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,440 That's that's really incredible. I didn't ever think that would 1296 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,640 happen. And I sort of say it every week 1297 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,840 at the end of a podcast, but I said because I mean it, I'm 1298 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,320 loving doing this podcast. I really, really enjoying it. 1299 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,840 I think this lockdown period, while there's obviously so many 1300 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:16,280 terrible aspects to it, it, it personally it, it's really 1301 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,000 reconnected me and that that's such a wanker thing to say, but 1302 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,240 it's really reconnected me with all the stuff I'm doing, you 1303 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:28,920 know, in terms of making videos, writing podcasts, all that kind 1304 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,800 of thing. I'm, I'm, I'm just just like 1305 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,520 properly back and everything. And I didn't, I thought it was 1306 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,120 massively enthusiastic and driven before and it's just 1307 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,760 taking this to kind of make me look at it all and go, yeah, I 1308 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,440 could, I could, I could step it up. 1309 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,600 We bet I could work harder here. I could do this instead of doing 1310 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,680 that. And then the the people that 1311 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,680 sent message during the week about the Jimmy Dornan episode 1312 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,320 of the podcast and said they they enjoyed it. 1313 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,200 That means a lot. So thank you very much. 1314 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,240 I'm going to plug a couple of really quick things. 1315 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,600 Number one is the Boy Town podcast that I do with Dave 1316 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,800 Elliott every Thursday that goes out on SoundCloud and the Boy 1317 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,440 Town podcast YouTube channel, me and Dave talking a bit of shit 1318 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,960 together. We've been doing this podcast 1319 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:20,400 for years and it continues to like evolve and, and it's 1320 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,840 brilliant. And Dave has a podcast called 1321 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,200 the Sly guy podcast as well on song employed and Apple 1322 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,360 podcasts. You've got the general banter 1323 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:32,000 podcast, you've got dirt civil deck chair and yums. 1324 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:37,720 Rory Woods Woodstock podcast is going as well and, and just 1325 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,760 loads of good local podcasts. So if you listen to this, if you 1326 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,640 listen to boy town and, and you want some more of that, um, 1327 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,520 there's really good podcasts out there, so you can check all 1328 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,920 those out. It's a good time for local 1329 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,320 podcasts at the minute. I've rambled on for probably too 1330 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,960 long, but Apple Podcasts, if you can rate and review this 1331 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,560 podcast, if you have time, if you fancy that, that'd be great. 1332 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,360 And the Patreon, as always, is patreon.com/tea With Me podcast. 1333 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,800 You want to get in touch with us.teawithmepodcast@gmail.com. 1334 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,160 Really excited about the episodes we've got coming up. 1335 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,280 And yeah, thanks for listening or watching today. 1336 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,000 See you later.