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I'm Michael. 
Che and I'm Colin Jose, and 

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we've got a little secret. 
Actually, it's a pretty big 

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secret. 
Well, now you got to give the 

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people something. 
I'm not saying a word. 

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Oh, then people will know to 
tune in. 

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Come on, tell them a little. 
Like our hosting of comedy 

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events streaming only on 
Peacock, exactly how it's called

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New York After Dark and it's a 
comedy show that only features 

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drop in comic. 
Boom, you nail. 

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Into Michael Che's phone. 
Nervous. 

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. 
Hey, hey, hey. 

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New York After Dark. 
It's some kind of comedy thing, 

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and it's streaming now only on 
Peacock. 

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You love it. 
Zippers, welcome to this episode

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of the TV's Me Podcast with me, 
Shane Todd. 

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It's January. 
Some people of the January 

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Blues, some people just are on 
Blues. 

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You know, whatever you're doing,
hope you're enjoying yourselves.

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Hope it's a good start to the 
year. 

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We are firing out these episodes
at the start of 2022. 

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Carl Frampton last week, another
guest episode this week, which I

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think you're very much going to 
enjoy. 

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Before we get into this episode,
before I tell you who this 

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episode's with, don't you tell 
them who the episode's with 

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first. 
They can see it in the title. 

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That's fair. 
We're sponsored by none other 

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than Thompson's Tea. 
These these are the these are 

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the guys behind Punjana, you 
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people go well, you know, 
pyjamas great. 

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Not well, it's Northern 
Ireland's number one selling 

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tea. 
So yeah, it is number top. 

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These guys are top of the pops. 
I don't know who officiates the 

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the sort of charts for tea 
selling here, but all you need 

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to know is Thompson's or top of 
the Pops. 

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These look a lot of tea makers 
and their families over 

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Christmas. 
You know, these guys really took

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it easy. 
They put the feet up, they at 

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drank and they were merry. 
If you had gone to the Thompson 

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family over Christmas and said, 
hey, you guys, you guys fancy 

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coming out for a few drinks, 
having a bit of Turkey, they 

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would, they would have, they 
would have told you to F off. 

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They would have said no, we're 
too busy making tea. 

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These guys didn't stop for 
Christmas. 

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The only presents they gave each
other in the Thompson household 

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was tea, their own tea. 
These guys, let me tell you, 

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these guys are barmy for tea and
you can taste it. 

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They make ponjana, which people 
go, hey, is that exotic? 

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Well, if you call Belfast 
exotic, it's made in Belfast, 

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It's drank in Belfast and other 
places like Moira, like Ponty's 

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pass. 
Is that real? 

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Don't know, Points pass, Points 
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pass, all those play everywhere.
They're drinking it. 

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And you, if you don't already, 
you need to start Our guest last

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week called Frampton. 
Send me a wee video during the 

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week. 
Just weirdly, this is true. 

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Just showing how strong the 
reseal tab is on these tea bags.

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That's fact. 
He sent me that video took me by

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surprise. 
But he's right. 

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So just keep drinking Punjana. 
Shut it to Thompson T family 

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guys have a Christmas relax. 
But they can't. 

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You know they won't. 
They're just too busy with her. 

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They say the greatest gift you 
can give is a gift of panjana. 

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We're also sponsored by 
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It's a new year. 
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If you're someone who spent 2021

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with with that, that you know, 
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Are you, are you, are you a 

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gentleman who you know, you're 
living in the past? 

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Are you in the wilderness? 
Is it a wilderness down there? 

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Do you have a lot of pubic? 
Here's what I'm saying. 

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These guys have the lawnmower 
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Listen, look, don't say that 
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You know what I'm talking about.
These guys have ball deodorant, 

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ball toner, ball wipes. 
They've got the products for the

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modern gentleman, but don't just
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can use it. 
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listening and you're like, ah, 
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We got you, man. 
Get some, Get one of your 

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grandkids there. 
Phone one of your grand phone 

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one of your grandkids and say, 
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I need to take care of my pubes.

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there. 
What if I cut myself anti snag 

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technology anti snag sounds like
a Scandinavian relative. 

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It's not, it's a thing they've 
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don't cut your ball back. 
Try to cope with something rhyme

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This episode of TV Podcast 

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episode one for 144144 is with a
guy that I've been a big fan of 

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for a while, Daniel McKee. 
Now, this guy you will know from

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the show Married at First Sight.
If you don't know him from that 

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show, you're going to enjoy this
episode just as much because he 

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is an infectiously happy, 
spiritual, enjoyable guy. 

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He might want to use that for 
his LinkedIn. 

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I don't know. 
But yeah, look, I this is not 

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Married at First Sight's not a 
programme. 

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I watch every episode of my wife
watches it. 

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I see a little bit of it here 
and there, you know, but but I, 

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when I saw Daniel on the show, I
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this guy's from here. 
I said I gotta get him on the 

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podcast because he seems like 
someone you'll want to have a 

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chat with, you'll want to be 
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And that's what we're going to 
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So enjoy this episode of the 
team's me podcast with my guest 

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Daniel from my to first site. 
Daniel, are you a tea fan? 

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Oh yes. 
How like how strongly? 

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Not how strongly you like your 
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strongly would you be in the tea
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Depends on the bag, doesn't it? 
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green. 
Tea over. 

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Regular tea over a breakfast 
tea, yeah. 

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Now that's not very common in 
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I'd say it is. 
Most of my most of my mates 

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would drink a green tea. 
You think so? 

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Is that like a? 
Is that like an Antrim Coast 

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thing or? 
I don't know. 

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I think it's. 
AI think closer to Belfast. 

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I think green teas, I think it's
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Like I like a green tea do you, 
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you can't, you can't let people 
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lot of places in Northern 
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Ireland's modern, I think it's 
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places that aren't ready for 
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Don't get me wrong, I love a 
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Yeah. 
Well, does that make you 

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appreciate the builders team 
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Exactly about variation, you 
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Green tea in the evening, maybe 
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How many teas would you have a 
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What varies depending on the 
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good four cup of teas. 
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less tea? 
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isn't there? 
So it's hard to say. 

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What's the tea for like? 
Really pissed off. 

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Really pissed off and say a 
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caffeine black, get it more, you
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You know what I think's a real 

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nice chilled and all grey? 
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smoky for me though. 
I don't know, I don't know. 

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I don't like Oh grace tastes 
like bath. 

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I wasn't agree there. 
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You go to America, they give you
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Earl Grey milk and you got to 
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And you can't eat dairy. 
Sure, you'd get exactly what 

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would. 
Happen. 

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I get almond milk. 
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I would just die. 
Just die. 

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I've never I've never tried 
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the the dairy allergy, but I'm 
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I'm pretty sure it would just be
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Wouldn't end well. 
No, but I'm, I'm willing to, you

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know, keep playing the odds. 
You know, I like, I like my tea 

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so much. 
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sometimes worry people will put 
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But you know, that's, that's a 
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That's a risk we take. 
I let me just say, first of all,

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I'm a big fan of yours. 
You are a big fan. 

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I'm glad someone is. 
I think a lot of but knew you 

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got it, you're very. 
So for people who don't know or 

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do know, Married at First Sight 
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And in my writing saying they do
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world, as in because I watch the
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Oh yeah. 
But that's not Married at First 

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Sight Australia, is it? 
That's just Married at First 

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Sight. 
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Australia. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah, yeah, I think there's a 
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well. 
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First Sight UK and yeah, it's 
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So you have a honeymoon period, 
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So that's where you're maybe 
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yes. 
And then, but most of it's 

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actually filmed was in Brighton 
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of this show. 
Because I watched the Australian

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one and it was it was why like 
my wife watches 90 Day Fiance. 

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I'm married at first sight and 
married at first sight. 

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The Australia 1. 
So much drama. 

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All the drama. 
Why? 

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Like it was wild, but the series
that you were on that's just 

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finished, the sort of UK series 
seemed a lot more. 

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Yes, there was drama, but it's 
seen and I didn't see every 

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episode of it, but it definitely
seemed a lot more like authentic

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or I don't know, the 
relationships were a bit. 

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I think it was less about the 
drama and more about the actual 

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like love and still love. 
Yeah, well, I agree. 

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So I've seen some of the 
Australian one. 

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I actually watched it with my 
mum and that was a big reason 

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why I applied for the show, 
because they were like, if you 

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think you could be married at 
first sight. 

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And I was like, not doing 
anything else, It's locked down.

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And yeah, I remember thinking, 
oh, there was a lot of drama 

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because truth be told, I also 
watched the UK 1 and I actually 

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thought it was going to be the 
same format. 

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So as I was going through the 
process, the one of the casting 

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team informed me and said, just 
so you know, you know, it's not 

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the format that perhaps, you 
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the Australian one. 
So it will be a bit more 

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dramatised because actually it 
is more dramatised compared to 

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the previous one in the UK. 
So we're going to have to 

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prepare for that. 
But it seemed like because here 

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here's when I first saw you. 
So with with sort of more 

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reality shows and things like 
that, what happens? 

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The pattern is my wife watches 
the programme from the outset. 

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I sort of happened to see a 
little bit of an episode claim, 

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I'll probably not get into this 
and then I get into it. 

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So I don't. 
So at the start, there's a lot 

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that I miss and then I'm into 
it. 

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But I just she's she's watching 
TV. 

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I'm not really like paying 
attention. 

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I'm doing whatever and then I 
just see a guy from home on TV 

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and you were here's what caught 
my eye. 

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Here's instantly how I went. 
I like this guy the. 

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Blues. 
You're wearing a blow. 

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You're wearing a white blouse 
one. 

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I don't know how to describe the
outfit. 

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I don't know where the I don't 
know if where you would get this

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outfit right, but. 
You are mine. 

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Don't worry, I got my own. 
I commissioned my. 

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Believe it. 
I believe it. 

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You're wearing, yeah, like a 
white blouse, short type outfit.

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And I think this fairway 
describe it, you were just 

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really dancing around the the, 
the, the cliffs of Antrim. 

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Yeah, I'll agree there. 
You were on you were on the 

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Cliff sort of that. 
And I remember you say you were 

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like, this is just what I do. 
And I remember watching it and 

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going, I think sometimes she was
like this. 

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They set a lot of stuff up and 
they go pretend you go to this 

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gym or pretend you do boxing, 
you know, like get to know the 

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person. 
But I instantly watch that when 

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he does do this. 
I was like, I I guarantee if the

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cameras weren't there, you would
be doing this. 

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I don't you were just, you were 
flowing, you were moving. 

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And I was like, I don't know who
this guy is, but I need to watch

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a show and I need to get him on 
the podcast. 

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Brilliant. 
I would. 

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There's nothing I would love, 
Mike. 

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My ambition is that one day me 
and you are just on the cliffs 

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in the gear, just like feeling, 
feeling the movement. 

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But I exactly. 
But I instantly was like that 

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straight away I was like, me and
my wife were both like, we 

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really like your husband too. 
But we were like, we like this 

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guy because you are like 
yourself. 

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I could tell in that moment 
there was no like awkwardness 

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about you. 
You were just like here. 

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This is this is just, this is a 
bit of me just dancing around 

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the cliffs. 
I'm glad we're here. 

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I love that. 
Next week, me and you. 

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Is there a particular Cliff you 
recommend? 

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Where's the feed? 
The Causeway goes itself. 

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Stunning, especially on a windy 
day. 

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Like there's days where you have
to hold on for dear life. 

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So windy if you're up there. 
But where do you get the outfit?

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For what? 
For the dance. 

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Yeah. 
You're not dancing blows. 

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Just, you know, sorry to 
disappoint. 

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It was like a like a white 
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shorts involved. 
There was like a long sleeve 

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top. 
And I mean it looks like some 

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you get in like a, you know, 
like a gift shop of a tourist 

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attraction centre. 
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was 

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thinking. 
But but instantly I was like, 

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I'm invested in this. 
And then like, like with some 

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people might not that are 
watching that might not have 

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seen the show, but then when you
met your husband in it, it it. 

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I think I was so invested in 
that because I was like, I was 

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like these this perfect. 
I think I said to my wife, I was

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like, this is perfect. 
And by the way, he like, I'm 

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just saying it like I I'm a 
wife. 

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But if I was on that show and I 
was single back in the day and 

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Matt had been who was there, I, 
I'd be fine with that. 10 out of

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10. 
Beautiful guy. 

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I'm punching. 
He's a good lad. 

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He is a beauty. 
No, no, no, but like, look, I 

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think you're I think you've both
done well out of this. 

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But but he's he's good. 
I would have been delighted. 

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There's so much I want to ask 
you about the process of a show 

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like that and like going into a 
show and loads more, but I'm not

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sure if people don't know you. 
Is this a fairway to describe 

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it? 
You go to the altar and you then

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that's the first time you meet 
the person that you're going to 

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have a have a marriage with the 
trial to see if you want to stay

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together. 
Exactly so well, how it worked 

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for me. 
I applied in November. 

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Can't you remember what year it 
was? 

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But. 
Last all the years playing all 

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the years. 
Yeah, it was. 

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November anyway of some year and
I applied and then there was 

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like 3 months of you have to do 
interviews you have to do phone 

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interviews then you do Skype 
interviews, then you do it in 

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person and then you have to 
speak to psychologists and the 

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whole idea is for you to to 
really understand your own love 

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language and to find out who you
are as a person. 

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So the more honest you can be 
the more likely though ideally 

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find you a match. 
So once you go through all that 

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then you wait for a couple of 
weeks and and then I just got 

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the phone call and says well we 
have a match for you but you 

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can't tell anyone who says you 
weren't even allowed to tell 

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your friends and family. 
They want you to keep it a 

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secret right until the cameras 
were there and then had to go 

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into quarantine for two weeks, 
which was lovely. 

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Put me in a really fancy hotel 
so I was treating myself. 

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That was a highlight, the whole 
experience. 

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Sorry, did you keep it as a 
secret or were like you telling 

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a few relatives? 
I didn't tell. 

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I had to tell a few friends and 
my mom and dad were like, what's

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going on here? 
I say, well, it's the situation,

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act a little bit excited, but 
they still didn't know I was 

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getting married. 
They knew I was going to take 

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part in a show. 
They didn't really know what to 

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show or what it was. 
And then rightly so the first 

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time I meet Matthews at the 
altar and I strut down the 

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aisle, I think they picked me to
walk down because I got the long

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hair, got the blouse, you know 
what I mean? 

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So I said, all right, I'll do I 
don't mind. 

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And then that's you just look 
ice with this person and I think

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you you really invest your time 
in it. 

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Yes, it's a show when you go for
fun, but to be chosen and then 

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to go through the process and 
then to say you've been 

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selected, we have a match. 
You you are nervous. 

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You know what I mean? 
It's very overwhelming. 

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Not that I've been married 
before, yeah, but it really felt

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like it was the real deal. 
But, and I think the reason I 

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felt like I for viewers too was 
I think because we, we are so 

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used to reality shows, you, I 
think you can see people's 

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intention for going on shows 
quite easily nowadays. 

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I think you, you're on there for
money, you're there for fame or 

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whatever. 
But I think the reason it's 

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worked out so well between you 
guys is and straight away you 

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can tell you're both there for 
the right reason. 

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Like you're both there to 
actually to actually find 

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someone. 
And yeah, it's such a like 

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marriage to me that that's what 
seems so crazy about the show, 

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that you're going to do this big
thing marriage, but you don't 

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know who this person. 
And I suppose like you say, 

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there are, you know, the 
psychologist talking to you, 

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they're trying to find out about
you as a person. 

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But, but do you think are they 
trying to put you with someone 

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that they actually think you'll 
have a relationship with or is 

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there also an element of it's 
TV, so they're going to put you 

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with someone that will give you 
good TV? 

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I think there has to be a 
balance for it to be 

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entertaining. 
I'd say totally. 

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I think maybe me and Matt have 
talked about this as being the 

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first gay couple in the UK 
series. 

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Maybe they had a bit of an 
advantage because it was maybe 

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in their interest to make it 
work and to show that side of 

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things. 
I think Channel 4 are very good 

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with that. 
Yeah. 

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So in many ways, we did have 
trust that Channel 4 would would

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do that. 
But I say a funny story. 

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I kept getting phone calls near 
the end, kept asking me what age

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would you go to? 
Like how old would your? 

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What age? 
What age are you? 

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I'm, I'm 28 and Matthew's 
turning 40 in, in March, but 

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they kept asking me and ringing 
me. 

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So I was expecting a, a 
geriatric at the end, 'cause you

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just never know, 'cause like you
say, are they doing things just 

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for TV? 
He's always had that doubt in 

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your mind. 
What are they going to do? 

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So it had to be open. 
And I remember telling my mum 

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and dad I was like, well, just 
so you know, if someone comes up

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in their 60s, you know, I didn't
choose them. 

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But I will give it a go and I'm 
sure they'll be lovely or 

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whatever. 
But you just don't know what 

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you're putting yourself in for. 
Yeah. 

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But I think with me and Matt, 
they they were really good in 

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that sense. 
But I think some couples maybe 

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they all had elements of working
but also elements that didn't. 

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So it was that that kind of 
mixed. 

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And how how much of it does it 
feel like a process like because

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we're when we're watching the 
show, we come between you guys 

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and this other couple and this 
other couple and you just do 

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meet for these dinner parties. 
But did it feel like a big 

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shared experience or did it feel
like just you were in almost 

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your own bubble of you and you 
and Matt? 

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I think I was very much in a 
bubble with Matt and myself. 

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Yes, you meet the other people 
at dinner parties and and even 

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off camera, you know, we all see
each other. 

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But in terms of of our 
experience, I just grew really 

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connected quite quick with Matt 
and I think we kept ourselves to

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ourselves so away from the 
drama. 

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We weren't really involved in 
that, which is probably boring. 

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If everyone was like that, you 
know, it would be dull TV. 

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I love a bit of whine through 
and I like to watch it and per 

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SE, not necessarily do it, but I
think it was. 

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It was a shared experience 
between Matt and I and we did 

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make friends, but when I look 
back, I think that's what really

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allowed us to grow stronger 
within the show. 

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Yeah, it just it was just very 
genuine from the outset. 

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And I think I think even the 
fact that like you say, like 

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first gay couple to to be on it 
was never really I don't think, 

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I don't think many people were 
watching that going well, let's 

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see how this works out between a
gay couple. 

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You know, it was just, it was 
just two, two people. 

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But I want to ask you about, 
yeah, going on the show, I 

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suppose. 
And what was what was going on 

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the show like compared to your 
expectations of what was the 

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reality versus the expectation? 
Interesting. 

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I suppose. 
I don't want to say I knew it 

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would have been a challenge and 
I like to go into things not 

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having much of an expectation. 
So I didn't go in with it being 

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necessarily high. 
I really went in knowing, but it

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was ATV show actually, and a lot
of those things are are quite 

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edited. 
And when I was actually 

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impressed and how organic they 
allowed me and Matthew to to 

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push through with our 
relationship. 

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We weren't coaxed or encouraged 
to say certain things. 

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They really did leave us to our 
devices and and that was 

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refreshing because I maybe 
thought things would be a wee 

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bit encouraged or poked and 
pulled, but actually they were 

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really accommodating for us. 
Were you thinking like maybe as 

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the gay couple like you say, you
know, they, they do try and make

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people argue or get a bit of 
attention or drama. 

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You know, maybe people were 
thinking like, you know, 

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they're, you know, between two 
guys. 

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You know you can, especially 
because you've never met like 

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there would be some sort of 
fireworks, but not like in a 

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good way like like tension or. 
Yeah, well, there could have 

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been drama. 
I don't know. 

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Like there was, but there was. 
Zero if we were a bit dull, 

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maybe back we were because we 
just got on and we even said to 

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each other off camera, you know,
if this doesn't work out, the 

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best thing that'll happen is we 
do find friends. 

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And that sounds a bit cringey. 
Yeah, but we did say I don't 

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want an enemy, you know, if it 
doesn't work, let's embrace it 

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and try it and, you know, 
believe it there. 

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But it just it really just fell 
into place and, and as the weeks

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go on. 
Did did you have any worries or 

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fears about about being a gay 
couple on TV and about does does

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being from here in any way play 
into that? 

440
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Well, I'm naturally quite 
confident in that side of me. 

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I suppose. 
Naturally that takes a while to 

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get to that place. 
Growing up in Northern Ireland, 

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especially in North Coast, I 
guess yes, does have its, its 

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areas of concern there. 
You know, a lot of people are a 

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lot of closet cases on the 
Causeway coast and Northern 

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Ireland in general all over. 
You know what I mean? 

447
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,080
And it's quite, it can be quite 
conservative, can't it? 

448
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,280
But for me, I kind of take pride
in who I am and push through. 

449
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,520
So in many ways I was empowered 
to go on and say here, this is 

450
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,320
who I am and I love being gay. 
I'm proud of it. 

451
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,480
And I didn't really have any 
nervousness. 

452
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,360
I haven't even had any trolls. 
Well, watch this space, but 

453
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,840
incoming. 
But everyone's been so warm and 

454
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,960
so welcoming to both me and 
Matthew. 

455
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,520
And even the responses we have 
from moms and dads of kids who 

456
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,640
are gay and things just saying, 
you know, this is really nice to

457
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,040
see. 
And we're proud and keep doing 

458
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,880
that. 
So I think that made it special.

459
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,960
Growing up in the North Coast 
and port bound Trey around that 

460
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:52,360
area, like was it was it, was it
difficult like growing up being 

461
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,960
gay or did you have a largely 
positive experience because you 

462
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,120
you would naturally assume that 
it wasn't put. 

463
00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,920
Yeah, I would naturally assume 
it wasn't positive, not because 

464
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,840
of the North Coast specifically,
but just I suppose anywhere in 

465
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,760
Northern Ireland or the UK, you 
know, 28. 

466
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,360
You think back to 15 years ago 
or so, like I remember having a 

467
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:15,240
very immature attitude towards 
all that sort of thing whenever 

468
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,920
I was at school and with no 
malice, but you were, you would 

469
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,640
have been pretty ignorant about 
that, that sort of thing. 

470
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,640
What was it like growing up? 
I was like, I suppose I was a 

471
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,320
guess. 
I was a closet case. 

472
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,240
I was about 17. 
I always knew I was gay and I 

473
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,320
told certain friends. 
But I got the courage to pluck 

474
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,280
up and, you know, come out as it
were when I was 17 and. 

475
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,360
How did you do it? 
Was it was it anything wild or 

476
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:37,640
was it just like a text? 
No, I said to, I was like I said

477
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,480
to my well, this is an 
interesting story actually. 

478
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,920
So I had a guy I was seeing come
over to the house and I said, Oh

479
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,920
well, mum, I'm gay. 
And just like I know. 

480
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,000
But it was like disappointed I. 
Was a lad, you know what I mean 

481
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,440
What and say my dad was like OK,
what's for tea? 

482
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,040
So that was. 
You wanted way more than. 

483
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,280
Yeah, I know because it's such a
big thing. 

484
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,920
You know, you build it up, you 
build it up and then I'm going 

485
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,200
to say this. 
And it was a bit of an antique 

486
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,880
climax, but that's that's so 
nice. 

487
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,320
I'm so grateful for that, my 
friends. 

488
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,160
Everything was encouraging 
because before that I was, I was

489
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,720
playing the lad and, you know, I
had some girlfriends who had 

490
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,720
those old beards. 
I look back and laugh, but. 

491
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,440
What was like what was one thing
you did to try and seem like 

492
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,520
more like macho or or appear 
straight? 

493
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,040
Like was it like, did you feel 
like if I dress this way or? 

494
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,360
Not necessarily, no. 
I'd never changed my dress 

495
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,280
since, but maybe I would sit 
with it, you know, sit with the 

496
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,360
legs wouldn't cross my legs. 
And I wanted to, but now I hear 

497
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:40,960
more for it. 
Is there something you want to 

498
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,520
tell me? 
Oh, I'd want it way more 

499
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,000
dramatic. 
I don't want it way more 

500
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000
dramatic. 
Your mom and dad seemed like the

501
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,200
nicest people, like when they 
were on the show, like because 

502
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,680
that that's something I was 
thinking like when I first see 

503
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,520
you guys at the altar, I'm like,
oh, there's going to be family 

504
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,960
drama here. 
He's from home, you know. 

505
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,480
Q Like, you know, a father who 
who like refuses to be part of 

506
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,240
the show or anything like that. 
But your mom and dad just like. 

507
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Completely lovely. 
Oh no, they were proper, proper 

508
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,440
up for it. 
Really friendly, really welcome.

509
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,000
And they love Matthew. 
He's he's in Northern Ireland at

510
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,040
the moment, so he's been 
spending Christmas in New 

511
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Year's. 
Had they got any reservations 

512
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,760
about you going on the show just
in general and and being exposed

513
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,520
to a big TV audience or would 
they just? 

514
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,400
No, not at all actually, because
I suppose they know me. 

515
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,440
I can be quite spontaneous and 
like to do things. 

516
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,920
You're free spirit. 
Free spirit. 

517
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,160
Yeah, We'll go with that. 
We'll go with that. 

518
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,080
But but it's really hard to be 
like it's not something you can 

519
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,360
try and be. 
Yeah, there are like someone is 

520
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,800
just a free spirit and does what
they feel or you aren't. 

521
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,200
And it's very sometimes people 
just don't know how to take it 

522
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,160
because a lot of people would be
jealous of that. 

523
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,240
Like, you know, just just doing 
what you feel and being you are 

524
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,920
like, it's difficult. 
I guess so, but I suppose it's 

525
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,520
working on that, isn't it? 
Pushing through your 

526
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200
insecurities, pushing through 
the ego or pushing through what 

527
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,200
people think of you. 
And actually, I find such 

528
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,240
freedom in that you have to 
maybe learn not to care what 

529
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,720
people think. 
Well, we all do, don't we? 

530
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,920
Whether we say that, and it's 
easy for me to say, but we all 

531
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,520
to a certain degree care what 
people think. 

532
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,120
But it's then how you impact 
that on your own life, isn't it?

533
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,800
Yeah, I think to to apply it to 
what I do to, to stand up. 

534
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:21,080
Like I would have, I would have 
tried to be like pretty cool, 

535
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,120
OK, like especially when I 
started stand up and like not 

536
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,640
until that long ago. 
So if I was doing like, you 

537
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,560
know, a photo shoot or I was 
doing an interview, I would have

538
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,480
tried to come across as like 
pretty cool. 

539
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,640
And look when the when the 
camera was out, I was going for 

540
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
like, you know, like more of a 
smaller and type pose. 

541
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,600
I like the eyes were squinting 
the bed and it just what it just

542
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,920
was not me. 
And it was enough. 

543
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,440
And then I've realised, like, 
the older I get, like I'm just a

544
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520
silly guy. 
I don't take myself seriously at

545
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,960
all. 
So why am I trying to look 

546
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,000
serious, you know, serious. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

547
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,720
And that's definitely helped my 
comedy, like leaning into the 

548
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,560
fact more, like I'm a bit weird,
I'm silly. 

549
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,920
And and that's probably more who
I am instead of this like, you 

550
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,000
know, smooth guy. 
Like I'm not a smooth guy. 

551
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,840
Yeah. 
You know, So I think now with 

552
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,320
photo shoots, I'm more happy 
now. 

553
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,720
Someone will definitely 
undermine me here and send a 

554
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480
photo from a recent photo shoot 
in where I'm like, you know, in 

555
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,800
like a smoky subway or whatever,
you know? 

556
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,560
I see that with a serious. 
Expression, but but I think 

557
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,800
yeah, being I think people love 
it when someone is themselves. 

558
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,840
But like you say, the show 
wasn't as edited as much as you 

559
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,320
thought it was. 
It was more organic. 

560
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,320
Where you My thought with a show
like that would be you walk 

561
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,960
into, you walk down the aisle 
and you have this reaction of 

562
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,920
seeing your husband for the 
first time and they go cut, 

563
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,800
we're going to do that again. 
Just pretend you've pretend you 

564
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,800
haven't done that. 
Yeah. 

565
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Was there way less of that? 
That did happen actually, but 

566
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,960
just for different angles. 
So but I think they use the 

567
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960
original right. 
I think they just get that in 

568
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,240
the can, you know, to choose. 
But there was there was a couple

569
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,760
of things that but no, nothing 
had to be redone per SE, just in

570
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,080
terms it was a big shot. 
But in terms of conversations, 

571
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,040
it wouldn't say, oh, Dan, can 
you say it like this or do it 

572
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
like, OK, not from our story 
anyway. 

573
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840
You have to remember, you know, 
there's there's eight different 

574
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,280
couples. 
They've got their own producers 

575
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800
and teams of people. 
So from I can only speak for me 

576
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,080
and Matthew say that they let us
get on and things. 

577
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,200
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, what 
were you? 

578
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,680
What would have been the biggest
fear for you when you met the 

579
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,240
person you were sort of paired 
with? 

580
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,720
Like what trait in the person or
like what? 

581
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,480
What if you when you were 
walking down the aisle? 

582
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,080
What would have been a red flag?
I suppose someone who's there, 

583
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,560
as you say, for maybe the wrong 
reason, someone who's there to 

584
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,480
cause drama, to cause outrage 
and probably do anything that 

585
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,920
they would do to make sure they 
yeah, they were in that light 

586
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,120
and they were intense. 
You know, I really did go in 

587
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,640
with true intentions and, and 
actually someone who's quite 

588
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800
calm as well, I really feel I 
got what I asked for with 

589
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,760
Matthew. 
So someone opposite to Matthew 

590
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,560
would have been bad for him, 
would have been heavy because 

591
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,120
it's quite can be quite lonely 
in that. 

592
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Just say you did have a bad 
experience which some of the 

593
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120
other couples did. 
It can be quite scary and done 

594
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,480
thing because you are there 
alone with people and there is 

595
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,000
pressure. 
So someone who was on my 

596
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,520
wavelength but which I thought 
was. 

597
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Good. 
That guy, The what? 

598
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,000
Which there will always like say
with air couples, there's also 

599
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,200
only one or two that's tough for
you. 

600
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,360
And for me, it was the guy whose
name I don't know, but he had 

601
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,800
real like body image confidence 
problems, and he was coupled 

602
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,280
with the woman with blonde hair 
and oh, look. 

603
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,120
And Morag, Yes. 
Yeah, look. 

604
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,080
And she was like, do a sexy 
dance for me. 

605
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,360
And he was clearly 
uncomfortable. 

606
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,400
And that was on TV. 
I I find that I, I, I don't take

607
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,440
any joy in watching that kind 
of, I found that quick. 

608
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,240
I found that a totally different
experience to watching you guys 

609
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
where I was like that felt like 
reality TV that I was watching. 

610
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,920
I felt like it was there to make
me uncomfortable, right? 

611
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Whereas with you guys, it's 
like, it's more of like a love, 

612
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,440
like a genuine love story. 
I'd say so I suppose again, all 

613
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,920
the couples I'd like to think go
in looking for that love and 

614
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
they had a harder experience, 
didn't they? 

615
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600
And I think that particular 
scene, she wanted a bit more 

616
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Viva than from Luke or wanted to
to be able to have a good night 

617
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,080
of some lusty love. 
I mean, he was trying to 

618
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,040
encourage it. 
When someone says do a sexy 

619
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,320
dance, it's difficult to do 
sexy. 

620
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,800
I'll be like. 
Oh. 

621
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,080
You had for the clips. 
I think I'd be there. 

622
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,960
I think you can pull it off. 
You think you need this altitude

623
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
and you can do. 
I think there's a fine line 

624
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:54,960
between sex either. 
But yeah, I just, I, I, I it's 

625
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,280
almost like 8 different shows 
within a show. 

626
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,160
And my wife wanted me to ask 
you. 

627
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,760
I don't really know what she 
means by this. 

628
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,000
When you meet for the dinner 
parties, there's often, you 

629
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,080
know, there's a little bit of 
you're there for like fireworks 

630
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,880
really this person to be 
confronted about this, that 

631
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,440
person to tell you about their 
experience with that. 

632
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,880
Umm, But my wife's question is, 
see the way there's a little bit

633
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,960
of food out there? 
There is, you know, there's a 

634
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,000
little. 
Very. 

635
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Little food, she's wanting to 
know. 

636
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Do you get a dinner separately 
to that either before or after? 

637
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Or is it just here's a small 
amount of food that has to do 

638
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,200
you for the night? 
Yeah, we get a dinner. 

639
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,560
You get 4, right. 
And then, no, you got a dinner 

640
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240
before and then you got some 
nice food. 

641
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,040
Very small, but more for sure 
would say. 

642
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,840
But you do eat it. 
And then at the end of the 

643
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,480
dinner parties, there was always
a lot of pizza for the for the 

644
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,760
cast and for the crew. 
So you kind of got 3 dinners. 

645
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000
There's a lot of eating, yeah. 
A lot of boozing as well. 

646
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,960
Yeah. 
Drinking and eating. 

647
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,720
Yeah, prolonged. 
Do they, do they like cut down 

648
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680
on the booze a bit? 
That seems to be a thing where 

649
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,120
reality shows that used to be 
play these guys with as much 

650
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,320
booze as possible, and now it 
feels like they can't do that as

651
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,880
much. 
I think there was a wee bit of 

652
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,720
push and pull with this one 
because it was the first time 

653
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,760
they've done this format within 
the UK, so there wasn't as many 

654
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,360
restrictions I'd say on the 
alcohol. 

655
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,760
So it was very much, you know, 
free there for the taken and it 

656
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560
was within your own interest. 
And if anyone wants to get too 

657
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,120
drunk, then they would be 
encouraged to have some water. 

658
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Someone come over and be like, 
there's a, there's a little 

659
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,920
water. 
But actually everyone was was 

660
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,240
fairly OK. 
Everyone could hold their drink.

661
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Maybe that was part of the part 
of the casting. 

662
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Did you have a moment, any 
moments on the show that you 

663
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,440
look back on that you find 
uncomfortable? 

664
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Like moments involving yourself?
Like was there anything that? 

665
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Moments involving myself. 
Or some of. 

666
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,800
The dinner parties I would say 
were quite hard because it was 

667
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,080
high intensity. 
So you're waiting all day to go 

668
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,080
on and, and there is drama, you 
know, and I really don't like 

669
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,680
being part of it, you know, I 
don't want to yeah, feel like 

670
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,360
it. 
I can take it on and it can be 

671
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,960
quite draining. 
So actually sometimes when it 

672
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,680
was quite heated at dinner 
parties, I felt quite tired and 

673
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,080
and a bit a bit down being there
in some ways because it was so 

674
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,680
heavy and it was supposed to be 
a good experience. 

675
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,880
But then that's just life and 
relationships and and it just 

676
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600
highlights that there's not 
always plain ceiling. 

677
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,400
So we had a couple of dinner 
parties, me and Matthew both 

678
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,640
like so heavy tonight because we
were having such a good time and

679
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
to see other people not there 
was a sadness there too. 

680
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,840
So yeah, it was mixed sometimes.
It wasn't always plain ceiling. 

681
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200
It was quite emotional in 
journey for everyone. 

682
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,080
Let me ask you about since since
you've, you know, finished the 

683
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,080
show, obviously you know, your 
social media grows and people 

684
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200
get to know you. 
Any followers that made any like

685
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,840
new followers that made you go 
Oh flip anyone in particular 

686
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,080
that? 
Machine, Todd. 

687
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880
Well, I mean, that's like that's
going to be, that's going to be 

688
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,240
the main one obviously. 
But any like you know. 

689
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,720
Do you know, I'll be honest, I 
don't even know how to philtre 

690
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840
through, you know what I mean? 
So that kind of went up, but 

691
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,880
then I don't know how to. 
Look, you could you could you? 

692
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,520
Bieber could be following you 
right now and you have no idea. 

693
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Is that the height of of you've 
made it? 

694
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Is that right? 
If it's? 

695
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,400
Bieber or in homes or something?
Like homes, Mary Berry might be 

696
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,679
a treat, but no, I don't 
actually know he's I I have not 

697
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:13,639
looked. 
I've not looked. 

698
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,040
What was the first? 
What was the first time you got 

699
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,040
recognised after the show? 
What was what was that like? 

700
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,639
Well, it was actually straight 
on. 

701
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,800
Me and Matthew did the Great 
North Run in in Newcastle and we

702
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,800
thought, oh, no one will really 
notice it or something. 

703
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,880
But we were getting loads of 
people and at that stage we 

704
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,760
weren't really allowed to be out
and about because we would have 

705
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,679
given the ending away. 
So there's a lot of people 

706
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,239
coming up saying, oh, you're 
still together and things like. 

707
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,400
No, no, no, no, no. 
But then it gets to a point 

708
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,239
where you have to live your 
life. 

709
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,840
You know what I mean? 
They encourage you to stay in 

710
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,199
and not keep a low profile, but 
you can't sit in your. 

711
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,360
But there was no doubt that you 
guys weren't going to be 

712
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,960
together, you know what I mean? 
Like anyone who watched the show

713
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,400
Cup for a couple of episodes, 
there was there was never any 

714
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,280
doubt. 
No. 

715
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,480
Well, I'm glad of that. 
And it's just going from 

716
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,199
strength to strength. 
Well, some couples made it to 

717
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:57,880
the end. 
Everyone who stayed made to the 

718
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,320
end, but a lot of them fail 
after the show didn't quite 

719
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,000
workout. 
Real life came back, you know, 

720
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,520
They decided that it wasn't for 
them. 

721
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,760
After a show like that, do you 
say we're all going to keep in 

722
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960
touch? 
And then it becomes difficult? 

723
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,280
Surely it becomes like quite. 
Difficult 100% where you maybe 

724
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,800
know yourself. 
Yeah, we've got a WhatsApp group

725
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,120
and and people, you know, 
naturally have other projects 

726
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960
and and move on and things. 
Have some people left or are 

727
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,720
people just not not talking as 
much? 

728
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,520
I think well, everyone talks, 
everyone's friendly per SE. 

729
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,920
I don't think anyone's left the 
group, but everyone, everyone 

730
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,800
got on well then the day and a 
lot of people realised, you 

731
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,720
know, as even people who didn't 
get on well, they realised that 

732
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:31,560
it was a show. 
When is? 

733
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,520
There any Deadwood in the group?
Is there anyone You're like, 

734
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,400
come on. 
For me, no. 

735
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:37,280
It's like when you know, but you
know what I mean, when you 

736
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,400
organise, you know when you go 
on a stag and some guy who can't

737
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,360
go and then you know, you're, 
you know, it's the day before 

738
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,040
and he's still in the group and 
I mean you're not coming. 

739
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,520
Why are you doing in the group? 
Form Alan Bad. 

740
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,880
It's always Alan. 
It's always an Alan RFL, I don't

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,400
know what. 
About like photos and things 

742
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,360
like that, Like are people 
coming up to you and how have 

743
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,840
you, how you find and not like 
is it, is it weird or does it 

744
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,640
feel like? 
Just been, no, I guess I'm just 

745
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,920
grateful people are nice. 
You know, I like everyone that's

746
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,760
so friendly and they say nice 
things and say, oh, really nice.

747
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,560
These are still together and 
keep being strong. 

748
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,280
And but yeah, I've not had any 
cycles come. 

749
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,440
Up what's a barometer of success
you would really like that like 

750
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,320
is there like a local thing 
where like if you were given. 

751
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,120
The Christmas lights or 
something? 

752
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,960
Well. 
Christmas lights is a good one 

753
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
and you know, shut at the 
Hollywood Time Council for 2015 

754
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Switzerland, which I which I 
asked to do, but I did the 

755
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Christmas lights here. 
Did you? 

756
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,520
Yeah, but I asked. 
I asked to do it. 

757
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,160
They didn't turn you down. 
Didn't. 

758
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,840
They no, I was doing a stand up 
show called Hollywood the 

759
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,240
Hollywood about gagging in 
America and then come back here 

760
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,960
and as part of the show I was 
talking about switching the 

761
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Christmas lights on. 
And then I wanted the show to 

762
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,240
finish with me saying I am doing
that this year. 

763
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000
So I had to e-mail the council 
and say, guys, just throw my hat

764
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,680
in the ring here. 
And I did it. 

765
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,400
And it was me and the mayor S of
North Down and she's wearing the

766
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,160
bling. 
We're on the podium. 

767
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,160
There's Literate Daniels, 
literally dozens of people lying

768
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,760
in the streets. 
It's wild. 

769
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,880
And we do the countdown and as 
we're on like 5, the mayor says,

770
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,280
I'll hit the button. 
You stand back. 

771
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,800
I was like, that's not why I'm 
here. 

772
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,880
I said I'll hit the button. 
And she said no. 

773
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,080
It's tradition that every year 
the mayor hits the button. 

774
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400
And she was, no disrespect, a 
little bit older. 

775
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,080
She's getting on like, a little 
bit. 

776
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,960
And your reflexes wouldn't be 
that sharp. 

777
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,280
So as soon as it got 21, I swear
to God. 

778
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,640
She. 
Mike, who films this podcast and

779
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,640
not here today, has video 
evidence of this. 

780
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,920
When it gets to two, she puts 
her hand out and I just slip in 

781
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,040
there like frog's, like, you 
know, like a frog's tongue, like

782
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,440
fast before. 
And I hit the button. 

783
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,960
And that's one of the greatest 
achievements in my life. 

784
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,160
And she spoke to you. 
Sentence No. 

785
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,880
No, no, I'm banned from the 
banned from the town. 

786
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,440
But but is there. 
Would you like to like, you 

787
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200
know, would you like to get like
the keys of Barry's for a day? 

788
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,800
Barry's amusements. 
Not anymore. 

789
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,760
It's closed. 
There's no race coming back as 

790
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,120
it come back. 
I've heard. 

791
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,760
Let's do, let's create a 
petition. 

792
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,680
It needs to come back. 
Didn't. 

793
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,840
It what's what's the like North 
Coast thing where like if you 

794
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,120
get to do that like that's would
you like to have like something 

795
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,800
in Morales named after you or. 
What again, Sunday. 

796
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,880
Yeah. 
What can I was going to say? 

797
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,240
Chocolate fudge? 
Would that be questionable? 

798
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Not on chocolate fudge sundae, 
but do you know what those kind 

799
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,520
of things I would say I don't 
really not enjoy them too, but 

800
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,760
it wouldn't be a peak of, of 
success. 

801
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,360
I think for me. 
I would just love to be 

802
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,760
comfortable like I love. 
I've got a meditation retreats 

803
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,560
business while they retreats. 
Yeah, that was to go well and 

804
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,400
something I could do for a full 
time job. 

805
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,320
That's that's my dream. 
I want to ask you about that 

806
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,760
because that's something I'd 
seen on your on your Instagram 

807
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,440
page. 
And when you say like a 

808
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,120
meditation retreat, I don't know
what that is. 

809
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,920
I'm not like, see, I tried 
meditating once because I read 

810
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,880
this really good for you. 
How? 

811
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,720
Did it go? 
Well, I just was asleep. 

812
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,320
I just fell asleep because 
they're like, oh, you deeper it 

813
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,240
in through the nose or through 
the mouth and you in this one I 

814
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:19,080
was doing you lie back with your
hands on your chest and I loved 

815
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,760
it. 
But then was like the last 20 

816
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,560
minutes and then all of a sudden
I was like, oh, whoa. 

817
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,240
So that was just so I don't 
think I actually did the 

818
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:29,640
meditation so. 
I like it. 

819
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,640
No, but I it was relaxing. 
I know the benefit of all that. 

820
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,920
It's a plot. 
Like I'll do Pilates once and 

821
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,320
go, this is brilliant. 
I'm going to do this every week 

822
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,840
and then I just don't do it. 
Do you think everyone needs to 

823
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,600
take time to like meditate and 
relax and all that? 

824
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,760
Sort of because I'm quite a like
go, go, go. 

825
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,600
But maybe that'll catch up for 
me at some point, I don't know. 

826
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Yeah, I say it's so important. 
I suppose we all know people and

827
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,600
if you were to have, if you have
clues to a friend, everyone's 

828
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,400
got issues, haven't they? 
Like, whereas anxieties, 

829
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,800
worries, stresses. 
I think it's so important for 

830
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,160
people to take even 5 minutes, 
you know what I mean? 

831
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,560
5 to 10 minutes their day to 
just focus on their breathing. 

832
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,360
And it's building up that, but 
that's platform and it's, I 

833
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
think it's like going to the gym
isn't it's like a rewiring, you 

834
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,720
know, you train your body. 
I mean, you can rewire your 

835
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,360
brain to be a bit more succinct 
and bit more focused and 

836
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000
mindful. 
And actually there's a there's 

837
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,920
another way of life for people 
if they do get out of that 

838
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,440
constant flux of their mind, you
know, take things in, see things

839
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,520
differently, slowing the self 
down all by. 

840
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,280
Well, there's many different 
kinds of meditation. 

841
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,680
I love conscious movement 
meditations. 

842
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,360
That's. 
That's what you do that I saw. 

843
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Using music, honing in on moving
the body and breathing and once 

844
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,280
you get past your ego and not 
caring about looking a bit. 

845
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,360
Sad that's difficult for me to 
get past. 

846
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,000
Well, we're going. 
It's so big that I can't, I try 

847
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,400
and go around it and then it 
gets bigger. 

848
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,960
No, I, I, I definitely like the 
idea of that and I would do it. 

849
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,920
I would like to do that. 
I'll come and do that honestly, 

850
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,880
like because I'm very much like,
not that. 

851
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,080
I'm not that I'm sceptical in 
general, but but I go, I don't 

852
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,720
know if I I need to do that or I
feel about it, but I would 

853
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,200
definitely go into it with an 
open mind. 

854
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,000
We can't lose enough to lose. 
But I'm like around where you do

855
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,360
it, that's probably a big. 
That's quite a great part of it 

856
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160
too. 
Because yeah, the scenery itself

857
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,400
just makes everything a bit more
epic, doesn't it? 

858
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Being in the news, in the the 
elements, you know, if it's 

859
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,360
windy or even it's rainy, just 
like dancing in the rain, you 

860
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,200
know, But you honing in, it's 
not just dancing. 

861
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,560
It really is focusing on your 
breathing, feeling the movement,

862
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,760
utilising the senses and kind of
just getting lost in that. 

863
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,880
And then there's a real sense of
bliss like I find from that. 

864
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,040
People do this over a weekend. 
Over a weekend, Yeah. 

865
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,480
Friday to Sunday, so you come. 
And do they have any any booze? 

866
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,120
Don't have any booze, Very 
treats. 

867
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,840
Not this one, but each one can 
be slightly different. 

868
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,120
It could be like a wine, wine 
and dance weekend. 

869
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,720
But. 
I think hit the cliffs, 

870
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,320
conscious movement, breathing 
we're. 

871
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Into something that's a whole 
new level. 

872
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,800
You know, I'm fond of the cider 
myself. 

873
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,480
But but yeah, I mean, it's, it's
it's something that yeah, I 

874
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,560
probably should do more. 
I mean, even like, I don't know,

875
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,440
I, I, I rush, I'm a rusher, I'm 
always rushing. 

876
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,960
I don't have like a crazy piece 
of life or anything, but I 

877
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840
always feel like I'm rushing. 
To do to do things the next. 

878
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,760
Thing I've got a kid as well so 
there's always like something to

879
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,280
be done or you're rushing back 
to see him or anything like 

880
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
that. 
But do you recommend I take 5 

881
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,680
minutes a day and just breathe? 
Totally, but you can even be 

882
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,720
mindful without having to sit 
and close your eyes. 

883
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,720
And can I be on my phone no 
during that 5 minutes? 

884
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Do you know if you're being 
mindful, if you're actually 

885
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,320
focusing on what you're doing, I
say I wouldn't call that 

886
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,760
meditation, but you can be more 
mindful in your day. 

887
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,760
I guess that's what I try and 
strive to be. 

888
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,640
And so, you know, the way we're 
always scrolling, but I say 

889
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,600
we're not really looking our 
way. 

890
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,360
We're just kind of. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

891
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,240
Our minds are somewhere else, so
I guess it's just having 

892
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,480
conscious awareness of the 
present moment, which a lot of 

893
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,480
people I don't even like. 
It's a work in progress for 

894
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,800
everyone, isn't it? 
I just happen to try and do 

895
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,960
little bits every day. 
Well, we'll put a, we'll put a 

896
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,720
link to that in, in the 
description of the, of the 

897
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,440
episode. 
And let me, let me ask you, what

898
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120
else, what else would you like 
to do like after the show? 

899
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,400
So imagine a show like that, you
know, can open, can open doors, 

900
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,160
can start conversations, you 
know, you get an agent and all 

901
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,320
of a sudden you can connect with
people easier. 

902
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,760
But is there? 
Is there more like TV stuff 

903
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,880
you'd like to do, or has it 
sparked an interest in anything 

904
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,440
else? 
I suppose like you say, it opens

905
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,960
the door and probably doors that
maybe and I don't know at the 

906
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,320
moment. 
So things coming in and yeah, 

907
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,160
once you have an agent, things 
do change. 

908
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,080
So there is talks about perhaps 
you know, maybe a potential 

909
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,840
other show of sorts. 
I think it's been all I said the

910
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,680
down before this because Dan 
doesn't, you know, Dan isn't an 

911
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,080
avid watcher of Married at First
Sight. 

912
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,280
And but I was explaining to him 
and I said these guys need to 

913
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,240
have a spin off, a spin off. 
You might. 

914
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,800
I don't know what it is, but I'd
like to see it. 

915
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Some kind of dancing slash. 
Take that tribute band Slash. 

916
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,680
Cider, cider dance, Cider dance 
Cliffs, Christmas lights. 

917
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,600
Yeah, usually you just go 
around, do as many of those as 

918
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,600
possible. 
But but yeah, I think, I don't 

919
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,680
know, maybe it's exploring here 
and like different parts of our 

920
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,520
like nature. 
There's plenty of it, plenty of 

921
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,360
the nature. 
I don't know, but I just, I just

922
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,560
think you're great on television
and you guys together or you 

923
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,000
separately? 
Yeah, So like that's very kind 

924
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,120
I. 
Just don't know what you would 

925
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,480
like to what you would like to 
do. 

926
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,640
I suppose it's variable, you 
know, anything that would come. 

927
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,280
Yeah. 
It would be great to be able to 

928
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,920
showcase Northern Ireland as a 
beautiful place for people to 

929
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,120
come visit, maybe highlight, you
know, meditation and, and I 

930
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,160
guess gay relationships and, and
who knows if me and Matthew 

931
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,600
would get properly married in 
the in the future because news 

932
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,040
flash, you don't actually get 
married on the show. 

933
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,760
That's the, you've got to tell 
me about that as well. 

934
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,560
So I thought that you did and 
then I realised there's 

935
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,400
probably, that's probably silly 
to think that. 

936
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,520
So it's almost like a trial. 
Is it like a it's like a trial? 

937
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,000
Does that Prem a promise 
ceremony per SE? 

938
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,320
So you go through all the the 
motions, but it's not actually a

939
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,400
legally binding wedding, even 
though we do agree to to wear 

940
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,560
our rings. 
Oh, you were. 

941
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,040
You wear your rings. 
Of course. 

942
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,320
So do you consider yourself 
married? 

943
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Like would you say a marriage? 
Guess it's more like a promise 

944
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,720
ring at the moment because 
there's no legalities around it.

945
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,360
But you know, we both went in 
wanting this and it has 

946
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,640
happened. 
So I would I feel like I'm. 

947
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,800
How long have you guys been 
together like in the in? 

948
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:36,200
Has it been nine months? 
What? 

949
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,280
April, April, May, June, July. 
About nine months. 

950
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,480
But do you feel like because you
started with a marriage of of 

951
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,520
sorts that do you feel like 
that's it's nine months, but 

952
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,320
it's it's way? 
Does it feel like it's way more 

953
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,920
because you've? 
It feels like years. 

954
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Yeah, this is what it feels 
like. 

955
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,320
No, it feels great, I suppose 
because it's so concentrated at 

956
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,280
the beginning. 
You go through all those 

957
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,680
experiences. 
So they did say it's like being 

958
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,160
with someone for a year. 
You know, in that short space of

959
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,080
time within the show from what 
you do, meeting family, moving 

960
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,720
in together, going out for 
dinners, having big chats about 

961
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:17,080
the future. 
So it does feel like it moved 

962
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,400
very quick. 
Oh, you guys did seem to move 

963
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640
very quick. 
Yeah, but in the right way. 

964
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,200
You know, you go on that show, 
you don't go in. 

965
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,720
No, but I mean like, you know, 
you seem very quick, you know 

966
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,080
the when they interview, you 
know, the day after the, the day

967
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,480
after the the way, you know, a 
lot of a lot of people are like,

968
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,400
oh, we slept in different rooms 
or different hotel rooms, you 

969
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,720
know. 
Well, he's feeling who, you know

970
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,040
what I mean? 
You just have to, if you're into

971
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,880
it and you're having a preach 
about it, you know what I mean? 

972
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,000
No gameplay I like. 
There's no time. 

973
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,840
It's too short. 
I like that you didn't come out 

974
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,560
and overtly say like what you 
got up to, but it was like, so 

975
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:58,880
like you're just like, yeah, you
know, like we, you're like, 

976
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,640
yeah, you know, we spent, you 
know, a good evening together. 

977
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,680
And and I know, again, that's 
part of the free spirit thing. 

978
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,560
We were like, why I'm going to 
lie about it or why? 

979
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,120
Exactly. 
It's about love. 

980
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,880
Well, hopefully you know. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

981
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,120
But you would like to get 
married for real. 

982
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,120
Yeah, definitely. 
I'd love to have kids and settle

983
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,480
down and things. 
That was a big, big part of me 

984
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,120
and Matthew, you know, and our 
journey, something we both want,

985
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,720
just finding the right person. 
What would you do differently 

986
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,200
with your official wedding 
compared to the way it was Like 

987
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,120
obviously not the TV cameras and
that sort of or maybe you would,

988
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,200
maybe you'd maybe make sure, but
won't. 

989
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,640
Get married. 
Yeah, I suppose. 

990
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:38,040
I loved it, being outdoors. 
I'd love to be by the sea, 

991
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,320
ideally. 
Muslim temples. 

992
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,480
A lovely place. 
Yeah. 

993
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,240
Do people get married there? 
I think so. 

994
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Very small. 
Very small because it's not a 

995
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,400
massive. 
I think it's a little old 

996
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,600
library. 
Do you know what I mean? 

997
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,680
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
There. 

998
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,160
I think it's stunning. 
That'd be a nice place to get 

999
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
married. 
So I suppose outdoors in the 

1000
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,960
nature and just celebrating, you
know, good music, plenty of 

1001
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,320
booze. 
If you could book one band or 

1002
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,200
music artist, no one's off 
limits for your when, who would 

1003
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,400
it be? 
Who would it be? 

1004
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,240
Do you know what I love? 
This band called Edward Sharpe 

1005
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,040
and the Magnetic Zeros. 
Do you know them? 

1006
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,400
Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic 
Zeros No. 

1007
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,360
They're they've got some killer 
songs. 

1008
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,240
What's the vibe? 
Is it like music you can flow 

1009
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,120
to? 
Yeah, yeah, it's proper. 

1010
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Like feel good. 
I don't even know what you call 

1011
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,560
it. 
It sounds like you could get 

1012
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,680
them to see. 
I thought you're going to say 

1013
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,560
like The Rolling Stones. 
I was like, that'll be 

1014
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,600
difficult. 
But Edward. 

1015
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,520
You haven't heard of them? 
They do. 

1016
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:35,080
It's my dad's band. 
Would you would you like to have

1017
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
kids soon or that's a that's a 
long term? 

1018
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,360
Thing well, I guess Matthews, 
he's punching for it, isn't he? 

1019
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,280
So I suppose agent, agent, he's 
getting a bit older. 

1020
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,880
So realistically within I say 
three years and we'd adopt, we'd

1021
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,560
want to adopt if we were to have
kids. 

1022
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,320
So that takes a bit of a process
and going through different 

1023
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,640
interviews and meetings and 
things. 

1024
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,120
So that would be a bit of a slow
Rd. 

1025
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,400
So we had definitely done the 
adoption route. 

1026
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,360
I mean, exciting. 
I get excited talking about it 

1027
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:05,760
so. 
Yeah. 

1028
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Oh yeah. 
Like have you always want to be 

1029
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,360
a dad? 
Yeah. 

1030
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,400
I like, I've always wanted to be
a dad, like from like a weirdly 

1031
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,080
young age and I don't want to be
a dad. 

1032
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,800
I thought it like at 11 I wasn't
like I need a. 

1033
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Teen Dad, That's a show in 
itself, yeah. 

1034
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:27,240
But like, yeah, being a dad is 
just like the bear, the best, 

1035
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,360
the best thing ever. 
And I I've all like when I was a

1036
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,120
kid, I was like, I'd love to be 
a dad someday. 

1037
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,240
But it's it's it's better than 
you think it is. 

1038
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,720
Yeah. 
You like you if you're in there,

1039
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:39,760
do you think it's going to be 
good? 

1040
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,720
But it's like it's just 
different every day. 

1041
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,600
Like another one in you, you 
think? 

1042
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,040
Yeah, I would like to. 
Yeah, I would like to. 

1043
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,800
I think there's definitely like 
a magic number, OK, You know 

1044
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,400
what I mean? 
We're like, I think that'll be 

1045
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,240
good. 
And you know, I'm, I'm 33. 

1046
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:02,440
I still like I'm relatively 
young, you know, fast, fast 

1047
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,520
runner, fast. 
I can climb things. 

1048
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:10,840
Well, I can run after, you know,
my son, but but I think, yeah, 

1049
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,080
no rush. 
I would, I would, I would like 

1050
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,160
to have more kids, but it's just
I can't recommend if you're 

1051
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,360
going to recommendation, I can't
recommend it enough. 

1052
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,640
It's it's weird. 
It's weird. 

1053
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Like plus I go through like 
sometimes I can be very not 

1054
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,000
emotional about it. 
Like I'm just walking bite 

1055
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,160
cracking all day, like looking 
after myself blobbing. 

1056
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,640
But but I'm definitely going 
through like a period. 

1057
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,800
I think it's Christmas, you 
know, you see, like my son's 1 

1058
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,720
1/2 and he still doesn't 
understand Christmas. 

1059
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,960
But it's just been like the most
amazing thing because you, you 

1060
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,920
sort of lose that. 
Well, some people just love 

1061
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,640
Christmas. 
I kind of lost that. 

1062
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,400
Not a Scrooge, but like very 
indifferent to Christmas. 

1063
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,400
And now I like it's the thing 
they get excited for. 

1064
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,240
You do that ELF and the Shelf 
thing. 

1065
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,720
No, again, he's probably like, 
he's probably too young for 

1066
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:06,360
that. 
And I, I, I don't like trends. 

1067
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,920
I like to come to the party 
later. 

1068
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,920
Everyone's doing the Elf on the 
Shelf. 

1069
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,000
I'll wait until it's not cool 
anymore and then I'll start 

1070
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,920
doing it. 
But it seems like a lot of main 

1071
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,080
thing. 
It seems like a lot of effort. 

1072
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:18,160
It does, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1073
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,400
It's like an every night thing, 
isn't it? 

1074
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,720
Yeah, and then you've got to 
post that on social media. 

1075
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:23,560
What are your mates doing? 
Make them more elaborate. 

1076
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:25,400
Did you hear about that? 
That Grinch? 

1077
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,280
The Grinch like party service 
thing? 

1078
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,160
No. 
Was that did? 

1079
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,640
You hear about this, You heard 
that, right? 

1080
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:37,120
This is the hack deck, right? 
There's this like business, like

1081
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,960
local business and they offer 
this Christmas service where the

1082
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,440
Grinch, you know, someone 
dressed as the Grinch will come 

1083
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,400
to your house and come in and 
your kids are there. 

1084
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,280
And he'll, you know, through a 
better, through a bit of what 

1085
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,320
would you say? 
Like, I don't know. 

1086
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,000
He'll mess the place up a bit, 
you know, a bit terrifying push 

1087
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,480
over your Christmas tree and 
he'll he'll mess up a few bits 

1088
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,520
and pieces and they leave and 
the kids are like, Ah, the 

1089
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,760
Grinches come there. 
Like, but then it's terrible. 

1090
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,840
This family like posted this 
thing up or like can't believe 

1091
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,040
this. 
And it was there's a photo of 

1092
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,520
their house and their kitchen 
and house was just fucking 

1093
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,680
wrecked and they broke this like
unofficial. 

1094
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,640
There was like there's like, 
there's like a great, like not 

1095
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,320
the the Grinch. 
There was like a side company 

1096
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,400
who were like doing it too. 
I was just one fella and he just

1097
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,480
came in and like legitimate, 
like legitimately fucking 

1098
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,040
wrecked the house like his end. 
Like they're criminal damage. 

1099
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,160
It's so bad, but there's like a 
photo on the Mars, like our 

1100
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,040
chairs. 
They're not going to recommend 

1101
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,400
the service, unlike the carpets 
wrecked all sorts of things. 

1102
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,280
You probably put that up on 
screen. 

1103
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,720
It was done who did it, but 
believe it. 

1104
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,960
But yeah, Christmas is Christmas
is pretty cool and I want to go,

1105
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,040
I want to go on a retreat. 
I want to go on a retreat. 

1106
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,640
You'd be very welcome. 
How different? 

1107
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,480
How do you think I want to feel 
different after it? 

1108
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,800
I suppose you're putting 
yourself out and doing something

1109
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,120
different, a bit fun. 
I'd like to think, how long is 

1110
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,560
it? 
It's from a Friday to Sunday. 

1111
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,040
And it's not just movement 
meditation. 

1112
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,760
So we have the silence sitting. 
We go for a cold dip in. 

1113
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Silence. 
No, hold on. 

1114
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,920
Here's the thing, I like the 
chat. 

1115
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,880
So how long is the silence 
sitting? 

1116
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,360
Well, it varies. 
Probably once we finish some 

1117
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,160
stretches, be about 30 minutes. 
Does it count when I'm talking 

1118
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,600
about myself? 
We'll put you in a separate 

1119
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,720
room, yes. 
A dip in the sea, I'm OK with 

1120
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:34,560
that. 
OK, good. 

1121
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Where do you be? 
Do you think you. 

1122
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, I can do 
that for it. 

1123
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,400
Yeah good. 
The 1st 5 minutes is hell but. 

1124
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,200
Once you're in. 
What then? 

1125
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,400
What then? 
You feel like almost like a warm

1126
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,000
feeling even when the. 
Water is a warm hug. 

1127
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,160
It's exhale exhilarating. 
I love it. 

1128
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,560
Can I go play football on 
Saturday? 

1129
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Sure, as long as you're back for
the evening meditation. 

1130
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,760
Nice. 
My book in. 

1131
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,760
Yeah, OK, done. 
That sounds good. 

1132
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,320
And Daniel, I really appreciate 
coming on the podcast. 

1133
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,960
Thanks very much for coming down
to Hollywood. 

1134
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,720
Your first time in Hollywood 
first. 

1135
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:05,400
Yeah. 
Would you, will you come back? 

1136
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Oh, with pleasure. 
Do you like Trabeix? 

1137
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,760
Love a trabe. 
Oh I love a 13 or a Malteser 

1138
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Malteser bun or the mint arrow 
buns. 

1139
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,080
Mint arrow buns, good little bit
old school. 

1140
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Don't know if you'll find them 
in Hollywood is. 

1141
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,240
That right? 
We're more. 

1142
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,600
Imagine you'd have kind of like 
a Berry and white chocolate's 

1143
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,240
gone. 
It kind of I've been that's 

1144
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,960
exactly. 
And we're talking a baby Chino. 

1145
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Quid a baby chin and 
everything's overpriced, but 

1146
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,600
that's OK because everyone's 
doing well here. 

1147
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,520
Is a win win? 
Yeah, Daniel, thanks very much. 

1148
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,520
I appreciate you going on the 
podcast and. 

1149
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,280
Cheers. 
Thank you very much.