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It's great when we have a returning guest, but it's even
better, Ben Nikki, when we have a gift for that guest.
Do you like, do you like getting gifts?
What do you prefer, getting gifts or giving gifts?
I like, I actually like giving gifts mate.
Thanks. Oh by the way, thanks having me
back. I heard it was a really good
podcast the first time we did so.
Went down really well by. Demand.
Went down really well, backed by demand.
You said though that you prefer giving gifts.
So before I give you gift, I've got you if you want to give me.
I mean, it's pretty awkward, bro, because I'm not this is
this is, this is so the truth. I actually wanted to bring
something today, but it's not here.
No, no, no, I totally swear. I swear.
You tell me you've shipped something.
From me. I've got I've got you something.
I'm not even joking. I've got you something coming.
But it well, they sent the wrong thing, so yeah, OK.
Well, tell me, what if they send me the?
If they sent the wrong thing, tell me what that was because.
I've got this new, I've got a new merch line coming out and
it's amazing. But they sent you, they sent me
the hoodie that's got crew written on the back because it's
for my crew members. And I thought, I swear it says
crew on the back. So you'd be walking around.
They think you're like a media, like a photographer or
something. Well, I may as well be cruel
because there's loads I want to talk to you about, especially
like the big, big show you just did in Belfast.
But let me ask you this we because you know, this is my
pocket. She and you know, man, on this
podcast. Were you making tea for everyone
before your show? No.
OK, remember that, Remember that because everybody in this room
was willing to let me make them a tea or coffee and I'm.
Not a lie, it's pretty strong. Like get a bit of a caffeine
buzz on a session. Strong.
Is this tea? I've never had well use it.
Was this the Pajano? Because I tell you what it's
this sounds like a Colombian strength.
Mate, that's that's, that's what we're all about, strong.
Strong tea that like. But but yeah, I made everyone
tea and coffee before. You wouldn't do that before show
surely? No, I'd be more like kind of
like very probably like Boko and something tequila, but you know,
a tea, a tea. I have a tea before show before.
That we should do that like next time you do a big show, there's
a little other DJs on the bill. You'd be like my mom's hooking
us up with some drinks and then I just come in with a tray
pyjama. Just pour in tea France under
van do I'm like more taste. Why?
How come you're in short? I'm going to it sounds really
bad. I'm going to the gym after this
was being lazy before I come looking like a tennis player.
So apologies if the knees are on camera like it's it's not trying
to get anyone a semi. Yeah, too late.
Just just just rolling it, Yeah. You look like if you're a tennis
player, you'd be like the bad boy of the tennis scene.
No, I liked it. Who's your favourite tennis
player? I'd say I like Nadal.
I like the doll. Isn't it also playing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's he's got good biceps like.
Yeah, we're just one. He's always got that vein pops
and it made me jealous so much as like that vein is killing it.
Yeah, I liked my favourite was probably he wouldn't be the
best, but like Tim Henneman, I just felt bad.
He was associate. He was so brutal.
Like, I don't I don't think he liked playing tennis, but
everyone was like, come on, Tim, this is the year and they so
I'm. Trying to think so in Northern
Ireland. Has ever been a good, really
good tennis player here? Like like, like, come on, what's
the name? Richard.
But his name is Richard, or that's his surname.
His name. Is he good?
Is he big now or this is back in the day?
I'm just like, I wish we did when we don't have one.
I'm trying to make it. No, there's never been a tennis
player from but. Even even in England, mate, like
we've never, we've all we'd get like the second round and that
was like the final first like yes, come on, come on, Tim.
Perry. No.
Who's English? Fred Perry.
I mean, yeah, that's where the brands came about that it was.
He was he was a tennis group. Google that.
It's like Joe Rogan. You Google?
Although in Joe Rogan. That's so slow in Belfast that
you were taking. A few tennis players.
So yeah, there's loads happened since the last time you were on
the podcast. Just done a massive show in
Belfast, yeah. Thought maybe you're gonna die
at one point. Yeah, when I talk about that on
here, we get censored if I talk about that briefly.
Look, they know by now I'm the bad boy of the podcast world.
They can't censor me. Me and my tea, you know?
Yeah. No, we can talk about.
We can talk about. Yeah.
I've got. Let me give you a gift first,
OK. Thank you.
Give you a gift first because last time you came on here did
the Manscape raid you? You were intrigued, you know.
You threw the fishing rod out to Manscaped.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, still waiting for the official deal.
I think they're just putting it together, OK.
I think they, they, they've outsourced to their legal team
and. I was hoping to kind of retire
from DJ and just go in to put on, you know, tutorials and how
to mow. I mean, it would be a weird
career move, wouldn't it, to go from DJ in front of a lot of
people to just essentially shaving guys.
Yeah, but it but whatever it works for you.
You know, if there's never locked down, that's.
What Tim Hammonds didn't know. It's working for him, you know?
Yeah. You're not going to believe what
we've got. I kind of, I think I know what
it might be, but yeah, yeah, you don't.
OK, the first, the first one isn't wrapped and that might
give away what it is, but look and there you're.
Going to move the mic a little bit from us.
First of all, is this is this like I don't want you taking the
credit for this because is this is this from manscape that they
watch your podcast and go right at kidneys one or have you
actually gone Ben wants 1. The hero over there done
contacted, manscaped and sent them the video of our last
podcast, by the way. I'm going to be so pissed off of
inside that there's like a lot of cash as well because we've
got. That's just the payment for
coming over. We agreed that before the show.
Much And after this you just invoice me.
They had like 12 grammes. I have.
What's this for? That's just for a couple of
minutes, like, Nah, this is the weed wacker.
Yeah. So this is electric nose and ear
trimmer hair. Yeah.
I'm gonna be honest with you. I've never really struggled with
nose hair. I think the nose has stayed
quite blocked over the last 10 years.
So. Yeah, but why?
Just like I had a few, I had a had a bad run of partying
You've. Got AP for bro yeah.
It's a COVID, it's a Colombian COVID strain.
So I got the weed wacker. It does your ears as well.
And now it's a it's a weird device and I, I definitely will
use this, but like, have you got hairy ears?
No, I didn't think I had no. So the first time we got one of
these, I give it to Mike because I was like, I don't have nose
or. But once you try it, I bet you
actually have got more than you. Then I drove home and I so I
looked in the mirror and I was like I do, but not enough that I
would I would need that. Well, I'm going to embrace this.
So thank you guys and Manscape for the the weed wacker.
It's cool and like a bit weed now and then.
Sorry. I just like the thought of you
being like, the DJ at the festival.
He's like, sniffing and, like, keep touching his nose and
they're like, you're gay, what do you need?
And you're like, Clarin. Yeah, Clarin, immediately.
But I need the weed wacker. Yeah.
And then suddenly I'll be like, you know, I can hear so much
more music because now it's now the ears, the the hairs have
gone. This one here, I don't know what
to expect. I don't know what the hell this
is going to be. Go ahead.
But OK. Could be anything.
OK, I'll try to avoid the tea. Oh, let me go so.
Presented with a box like this. So this this is for your balls.
Oh yeah. Thank you, I will be putting a
tutorial on my only fans later. No, for our Patreon you're
willing to do a live demonstration after this?
So we have all the accessories here, mate.
I'm not going to I'm not going to get out now, but I've even
got this is like Jesus, I thought this is a joke that
actually do do ball toner. Ball toner, yeah, because that's
what I did. I felt like I wasn't getting
anywhere in life of my career and then I realised that my
balls just weren't toned enough. Full.
Deodorant. Ball deodorant, Yeah, so.
Is it it's oh, what do you just rub it on like when it's right?
No, you get someone to do. OK, I'm going to explain.
You can get someone to do I'm. Going to explain on camera,
there's a condition that's been going around in the DJ world.
We call it Disco Fanny. It's basically when you meet a
girl and they've been in a club and she's been dancing all night
for a long time. Sometime there's a pungent smell
that comes down from down below and I'm just thinking maybe
Manscape could design. I don't really know, I said to
announce the name of a female part on a podcast, but your
female or genitalia could maybe have some kind of deodorant as
well as a market that's being missed.
So Manscape if you're watching them.
I will happily invest into the female range.
If the guys are willing to do. It but if the girl just had like
a quick, you know, manscape female deodorant quick little
little slip down there a little clean meets the lad breath of
fresh air rather than rather than tuna.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, wow.
Just a thought. Just a thought.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never experienced that
personally, but I've heard stories that has happened.
Yeah, you just have a guy constantly spraying your balls.
Just. Yeah, now he's fine.
Now he's a manscape of sorting out.
Yeah, Yeah. So you must are you like once
you do like a, you know, a big show, Do you like do you take
some time? Well towards before you couldn't
have taken time after it to just like chill and come down a bit
from it because you were just on to the next one.
But at the minute, are things so slowly coming back in and
opening up again that after doing Bus Sonic last week, you
can actually just. Since I saw you last time, as
soon as the UK open I was straight back to work.
Like I do put some, I do put those pictures on in the UK,
like massive ones and my diary is just absolutely round as
normal, which is great. But it comes to a point where
I'm usually around the world every week.
And because nothing else is really open around the world,
it's like I can't just keep doing the same thing every week.
So once like this tour's over, I think go to America next month.
And and I mean, Russia, Russia in two weeks.
But yeah, I've been deejaying non-stop me like just basically
just thinking if, you know, lockdown happens again, I might
as well just get the retirement fund sorted now.
Oh yeah, like chill. Me.
OK while the sun shines. Yeah, I'd love to go back to the
States. I I started doing that and then
everything. Closed yeah it's it's it's all
like the states is if you want to go on towards go to Texas
because they just don't care the laws there are just pretty
pretty cool. They do what you want.
But like I said, talking about Bell Sonic, it was amazing by
the way, on on Saturday it's it was the first it was not just in
general Belfast in general. It was the first major event
since lockdown, which it was my event.
So Oh yeah, it was the first big 15,000 capacity event.
What any in general? What felt different from but
Sonic like that from the last time you've done?
It do you know what? It felt the same.
It didn't feel any different because obviously you had to
show a negative test or whatever on the on the gate, which is
which is really easy to do as a text message.
And so everyone kind of like treated it in the same way.
Once you're in, obviously, unless you've somehow like
bought a certificate of your mate for a fire or something,
everyone in there would supposedly be negative or
whatever. So I mean, like you kind of just
treat everyone the same and yeah, just crack on as it was.
And I really enjoyed it. And most of the shows have been
having that annoying thing on the door where you've got to
show your certificate or whatever, which, you know,
regardless of whether you agree with it, you don't.
It's, it's a bit of a not excuse upon Bull Lake.
Yeah, it's. Admin like isn't it like it's?
Yeah, it's just, it's just adding like annoyance to like
the procedure. Obviously I'm a DJI, even the
performers, we still have to do it as well.
So I still have to show you a test when you get backstage or
whatever, but apart from that mate, it went amazingly in the
city. Just showed so much love here
and it's amazing. Do you get any more nervous for
it? Because it is now.
It's not like a home gig for you, you know what I mean?
Because you live here, no. Do you know what mate?
Like what's funny though is I did an interview for I don't
even mention the newspapers name because I don't want to like the
cause in dramas and but I did an interview and they rung me up
and they were like hey. Was it a paper here?
Yeah, it's paper here. They're like, there's a couple
like, OK, OK, we'll fuck it. Not going to slag them.
No, I'm going to be fair, but I'm going to tell you what
happens is that this is what happens in the media.
So I didn't view, hey, how's your gig?
You know, preparations, what music you play and how is it
living over here? They took pictures off instead
of like using pictures about the gig and the they took pictures
of me on my lawn mower in my garden.
And it's like Ben loves Northern Ireland Country Life and bought
and pictures of my house. Everything mate.
Which is really going to sell a live experience to people.
Yeah, they also mentioned like the actual town that I live in
and stuff. So it was pretty detailed, which
is kind of pissed me off like the end of the day.
Like I'm going to have like people turn up at my door with
like groceries there. Yeah.
So this is. This is the GPS looking.
Yeah, like cheers mate. Luckily they got the town kind
of a little bit wrong actually, so it wasn't too bad, but and
was it a. Belfast based newspaper.
Yes, but it just annoyed me a little bit.
Like yes, yes, but like end of the day, like don't if you're
doing an interview with someone about their show, like kind of
manipulating and like it was a nice piece, like, but you know,
like it was literally on my front door on it.
I was like, come on. I was like, you know?
I've been, I, I did AI can't remember what gig I was doing,
but there was like a thing in the Sunday World about it.
And you know, they've got like their main story and then on
like another panel of the front page, they'll have like 2 like
snippets for like this is also inside.
There was a for me, there was just my picture and it said like
page 60 or some big show. And then underneath it, it said
Predator still loose, but they were too close together.
So it said Predator still loose and I'm just like.
You're on the You're on the watch list now, but.
Standing right below. I've been fucked so many times
by like bad pictures and I I don't despite being like quite
cute, I don't photograph well at all.
Like I, like you need a Valencia philtre on it.
I need I need a philtre and I need like the photographer to go
make this look well, you look like a wee alien guy here like
let's take this again. But they'll they don't give a
fuck. They just.
Put it out. You need like, you know those
girls, these Instagram girls that go to Ocean Beach and get a
photo of Wayne Lineker. You need like one of those.
You need one of those, you know, you know, these girls do like
their, their, their, their, their thighs come down and then
they it just like goes out where they've got the app and they
stretch their ass out. But you meet them in real life
and they're absolutely catfish. The hell yeah, yeah, yeah.
You need, you need a basically the editor that does, you know,
gives you like the veneers like me, the white and that.
Yeah. And Wayne's like what age are?
He's like 20. He goes to Yeah.
I have got a lot of people that are friends with him, but yeah.
That's what it. Is mate, I'm just going to say
it as it is like if, when, if you post pictures up of young
birds like he does, you do kind of bring it on yourself a little
bit. I'm sure he's a nice guy.
Like, but I like Gary, but yeah, I mean top guy.
But like, yeah, I'm not slagging the guy off.
But like I'm just saying like if you if you do post pitch, if
you're like 60 years old and you post pictures with 18 year old
girls, you probably are going to insinuate that you are and I'm
doing something a bit weird have.
You ever met Wayne Minniger? I think so.
All my, I mean, all my friends
actually have worked at Ocean Beach and I've got a lot of
friends in like reality TV that friends of him.
I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I just, I just all I'm saying is
like when you post pictures of young girls, you're going to get
prejudged. But I don't know the guy, so I'm
not going to say that. Have you met Gary?
No. Who do you prefer to meet, Gary
or William? I'd like to go to Ocean Beach
with Gary Lineker. The ultimate curveball, Yeah.
Yeah, no, I don't know. I'm sure it's hard to know mate,
because like it's very easy to prejudge in social media
nowadays until you meet someone. So I'm sure he's a nice guy and
one of my friends Tom Zanetti, who's like a Raptors rapping
like garage and all these other. I wouldn't know what genre is
actually, but he's just doing some big tracks in the charts.
He was on like Love Island and stuff.
He's mates of him and Tom's a legend.
So I'm guessing he's a decent lad.
But just obviously just the photos sometimes that make me
laugh a little bit like. Yeah, Bell Sonic looked
outstanding. Like just like as because when
when I went over do shows in London, it's like opened up 100%
whereas we fees things back in. So anytime I've seen people
locally here like me, it's I got something.
It still just doesn't look proper yet.
You know what I mean? Clubs still don't open here, are
they? I don't I'm the wrong guy.
Which is mental because I mean, like I just did 15,000 people
here, yeah. And then you can't go and, you
know, listen to the Spice Girls and we mate in a little club in
the corner. That's what you like to.
Yeah, that's. All you want to do.
I'm not going to lie mate, I did actually go out for the first.
I've never. Been, I think you would say you
went over the Spice Girl. I was like, like, that will now
be 40 minutes in the vodka. I, I went out for my first ever
night here like because I've obviously live here.
I never go out because it's get it's for the same as you get
tortured like so it's a bit of a nightmare.
I'm looking for. I'm like.
Oh man, it's. Furnishing intelligent tonight.
Yeah, yeah. If you're writing it down, that
champagne story you told me last time, I won't forget that.
So that was basically, yes. I went out with a few of the
boys. You know, you're Gareth
McCauley, you're out with G and few other mates and we went to
Ollie's as you do and just sat in the corner.
But because you can't see anyone else, it was like we just sat
there just chatting about normal things that we would have talked
about anyway. It was, it was, yeah, yeah.
It was a weird experience, just kind of sat in a club with like
not being able to socialise with anyone.
You're putting 2 become one by the Spice Girls on yeah
Bluetooth guys come on let's enjoy this Gareth McCauley like
yeah, like legend. Have you had him on here?
No, the only interaction I've had with him was I do very
useful IFA for the football situation with a football team
and. We would do like all different
stuff and you get to do stuff for the players, which I love
because I'm a huge football fan and I've always been a big
Northern fan. So we're supposed to do one with
Gareth McCauley. This is like you probably
wouldn't even remember this. It's about five years ago.
They were training down in Dublin and the video was we were
going to recreate his goal against Ukraine that he scored
at the EUR that that I was at main Tony run.
That was just the header. Yeah, I've heard so much.
The big torn header. So me and my mate went down to
recreate that for the IFA and there we got like the food kits
on to go to their training pitch and we're walking over and then
the guy came out from the fans like, yeah, like Garrissy don't
really want it, don't want to do it.
The worst thing about the whole thing is we were in the food
kits with shame guards on. So we're standing there like I
stand there like no, we didn't. We didn't really want to do it.
And the guys like why have you got that?
We shrimp over your. I was like, no, no, no, we're
we're cool by the way. We'll just jump shield in.
We'll just chill. Yeah, I play football with
scrum. Yeah, but but yeah, I guess he
just he just didn't want to do it.
We did something else and there and I understand why.
Sometimes. He's actually probably one of
the most humble guys I've ever met.
Really humble, a quiet guy actually I went for some funny
news where I went to he took me to Northern Ireland match the
other the other night. First time Switzerland, first
time at Windsor Park, loved Windsor Park really nice.
They looked after us really well, really nice.
Actually a lot of the media team that were there actually were at
my belt on it show working. So everyone was really nice.
And and also one thing I do want to do, I really want to put a
show on there. Yeah, on the pitch.
I want to put a concert in there.
So that's then that's maybe something in the future that I'd
be looking at doing. Yeah, because the first time I
saw something down there that wasn't for cars Frampton fight.
Yeah. And it looked great.
It was raining, which again, I've said before, I call myself
a fair weather boxing fan, like quite literally.
So I like want to go to your fight.
But then if I see it rained at the fight, I go oh, thank God.
You know, I'm like, thank God I. Didn't know this is the reef not
closing. Winds apart, No.
No, they're like a guy will claim a thought, you know what I
mean? Like there'll be a guy working,
there'll be like, I can close it and then.
Top Tarpauli. Yeah, with a load of blankets
trying to pull it like. 12 guys, it's a nice stadium, but.
Unreal. I didn't realise it only holds
like 18,000 or something, or 17,000.
I thought it would like. I thought it would be a much
bigger ground outside. It looks huge, but it's a
beautiful stadium. Yeah, yeah.
Real nice ollies is I'm in the ollies in.
Like we should be getting some kind of like endorsement to, you
know, some sort of day in Ollies.
But I, I can't go, I mean, I don't really go like I'll go to
the pub, but I don't really go like out out.
And that because I do like a character like a social, like a
comedy character who's like all about ollies and.
Like, is this in your show? Yeah.
No, not, not on the live show. It's like like that.
I'll do sketches with this character.
And then he talked about ollies that much that if I was ever
there as myself, people were like, yeah, the best moment I
had there was me, Tony and Army John was it Were there And then
was it the last time I went there.
And that's why we can never go back.
And we were there and Christine Blakely and Frank Lampard came
in with a couple of their friends and like all big
football fans. Like was this was he ever
officially or is it is it did have an affair with that
Christine? I can't remember.
Oh, they married now. I can't remember like.
They're married now and I think they had a.
What would she say meant she was like, she like she looked like
now she decent, Yeah. I, I, I, I just, I think, I just
want to get it out there that I think.
She watch. Does she watch TV?
Me I want. I think, I don't think she was.
I think she might know of it, but I just want to clarify so
that she might come on again. I think their courtship was
above board. She'd be on here.
No, she hasn't. OK, not yet.
But I just mean like, I think I, I, I think they in.
Case the case, you get an e-mail saying she wants to come on the
show. Yeah, you want to have it.
I just want to point out that her and Frank, who are close
personal friends, I've I've never spoken to them, got
together in the right way but my mate was so drunk that he to
meet Tony and our metre. Should say block blocked here,
right block. Let's see that blocks is I'm
there in some newer blocks. Yeah, I've done this a few from
a few viral videos I saw it around, which won't bring up,
but yeah, the word blocks is yeah.
So we're blocked, yeah. And Lampard and Christine
Blakely are sitting there. You know, the like, the VIP area
there is like really dark. That's how we was it.
Is it? Like a little room to the right,
a little like key. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's where we were. So certainly, by the way.
No, no, I'm like, I would never be comfortable somewhere like
that. No, I I don't know.
I think it's just being like you're in denial.
Maybe I'm too. Old.
I'm just an. Old guy, you know what I mean?
You just, like sitting in. And I think I'm like, what's the
opposite of claustrophobic? Outgoing.
Yeah, I think I'm scared of that.
And so we're sitting there and it's all really dark and
Christian Blakely and Frank Lampard, and no one's really
bothering, You know, they're giving them their space.
And my mate John goes to subtly take a full bad etiquette.
But he's drunk. He's drunk.
Right. And he?
Just goes to take a photo just for like his mate or something
of Christian Blakely and frankly apart.
Hey Flash. Oh no, it lights the.
Place like a Christmas tree, like the entire VIP area turns
into like a cave of light. It's like a light spectacular
show that Cirque du Soleil would do for about 3 seconds.
And he's a real like flustered guy.
So what I would have done is gone.
Oh shit, sorry. I just meant to take a photo of
me and my friend and I'd be like Poli like just of me.
And then I'd act like I was taking a selfie, but he just
like, he was like, he just didn't know what to like, do
everyone? 'S like blind.
And yeah, the people they were with like, let him know that
that was a bad move. I think her sister, like, hit
him a wee bit on the arm or something.
But but yeah, that's why I don't go ahead anymore, that I'm just
a cripple on that social anxiety.
But apart from that, no, I yeah, my VIP areas and things like
that are I think I think a thing of the past for me.
I I just, I just like drinking tea and watching like Vietnam
War documentary, stuff like that.
May I tell you what as you? I I think people think like
especially in the world, I mean like when you're like your whole
world, like your whole daily routine is like waking up
smashing like 12 hookers doing coke off and midgets bat midgets
ass. You know, next minute you're
doing backflips, you know, into breaking your head open and and
used to do that. Yeah, yeah, but no, but no
seriousness. Like, yeah, as you get older, a
little bit like you just just like, I don't know, like the
little simple things, you know, I found, you know, believe this
or not, right after my Belsonic gig, I'm a very open, honest
person, so I don't really care. But after my show, I went back
to, you know, that Malmaison suite that everyone always has
with the snooker table and all that.
It's in like, line of duty. It's like a hotel room that
basically if you've ever had been to a party in the city, it
would have been in that suite right in that hotel room.
I'm just totally giving away. OK, but you don't go out.
But I've just given away where we stay.
So next time I'm doing Belsonic I want to know where my hotel
room is now. But whatever.
I went back and I went back after the gig.
Amazing 15,000 saw out show incredible Roddy, Roddy R and
then get into my room. I walk in and my friend Rolo
who's behind the camera here is like just walking around pacing,
being weird and there's about 6-6 slides just pacing around
you and someone's on an album and there's like 6 girls like
twerking to Sam Smith in the corner.
I'm like my mates are like what's going on here?
Like whatever the music of Sam Smith.
Or just Sam Smith. Oh yes, Sam Smith was twerking
as well. No, no, like these random people
and yeah, I literally was like, you know what mate?
My gig was so good, but Draymond was so good I can't be bothered
with all this. And Scott got my mate and got in
the car, went home because obviously live in Northern
Ireland as well. Not far from We'll put the post
code in the description. Thank you.
And I totally I just left it. I got involved with this, got
got home. I was in bed at half one with a
bowl of Coco Pops and didn't know where that was going when
you first. Said the first syllable that was
actually one. Of my first sober gigs in my
whole career. But but no.
But then do you start? You start then to enjoy the next
day being like, I'm fresh. I feel so good, you know?
Yeah. And.
Because I'd hit it, I'd hit it hard for last, you know, a lot
of my career. So sometimes just those little
pleasures and there's like simple things.
Sometimes when it, when it's built up to be like really big,
I actually do the opposite. And like, I just like, go, Oh, I
was gonna chill tonight like the first time.
Out of the Ulster Hall, I was on my car with me and what I'll do
is I'll go home. What is it you drive home?
I was always. Planning to drive home, but but
I said to Joe, who we knew from Shang because they run the
limelight, which is exactly where my car was parked.
So I was like, could I get like everyone was closed?
I was like, could I get like Lewis cider, little bottles of
cider to take home. I'm going to like have a few
drinks in the house, which I would never do.
And then I get home, turn much of the day on, have like half of
a cider and I'm like, this is perfect.
I don't need like anything else. And even like the last couple
wakes up in in London, do a couple of shows.
And I love the idea as soon as I'm off stage of like a pint
decider. And the last two times I've got
the cider in my hand, been really looking forward to it had
like 2 sips and then like checking out.
No, that's really checking. Out this majesty is because.
This is actually. Something that I was when I was
partying really heavily, like before, there was like a certain
trigger that I had. And because the kind of music I
play and the crowds are mad, that adrenaline you get during
during that is so high. Like, it's the, it's the biggest
high you can ever get. When you come straight off
stage, it's like, well, where do I go?
What do I do now? Like, it dips.
Yeah, it's horrible adrenaline dips.
So I was like, I'm not exaggerating.
My friends would back me up. I was drinking like a litre of
Grey Goose vodka on stage. The whole bottle was straight
nailing it during my set. And I was.
And because of the adrenaline, I was just like, still alive.
I'd come up and I was like, whoa, then I'd have to, I have
the party to like try and get myself back that high that I had
when I was coming off stage. So that's the that's my little
trigger is it's like you're saying when you come off, you
get like that. Do I have that drink or do I
just kind of let the adrenaline come down and, and and deal with
it? So now I'm kind of like learning
my body a little bit of why I was doing things I was doing
you, you'll probably take it in. More as well, like, I don't know
if you're someone who like if you're on that cycle, it's
probably hard to like quantify big shows you've done and like
the reaction and it just all blends into one.
Whereas when you don't, maybe you have more time, yeah.
I thought that was actually the first sober gig I've done in a
long time. Like from since I probably ran
to the China Tour when I was reading Jet Lagged once.
But because in in China this is what random I think I had
tequila on my rider and for some reason they brought me like a
duck. They must have liked the
translation must have been wrong, but they've literally
bought me like a dried duck. Oh, I thought you meant life.
I was like, no, I wasn't alive. It was a.
Dried duck. So like, yeah, China is normally
fine and they say I actually love I'm touring China.
Do you like Duck? I love duck, but.
Not it was like it was like kind of like like dried and uncured
in the way and it just it smelled like something that had
been in the bin because I like. A waggon.
I love duck pancakes. This is it.
So like. When you go to China, India,
whatever, it's, it's not like you're an Indian or a Chinese
food you get here. The this is like when you're in
Northern Ireland or whatever, you don't get a free bottle of
Coke with any. Order over £6.
You don't. There's no me.
See this when I was in when I was in India touring like years
ago. And Goa, there's no such thing
as mango chutney there. They don't mean mango doesn't
exist there. I think the phrase.
First world problems was invented for that.
No, but mate like. Papa doms and mango chutney is
like I don't if any of you the same but when I go for an Indian
I load up on 14 Papa doms form and I'm full by the time.
The main that is to me is the best combo is mango chutney
poppadoms. I swear to you right now I would
take that over any food when you were running.
About being like, I just need this mango chutney.
It probably sounded like code when you were there because
you're a day, you're like, guys, he needs his mango chutney.
It was not a. Gear arrives, you're like, get.
That out of my face go away or I want no.
Mango. Yeah, but where's my.
It's Charlotte, isn't it? Where's my showers?
Get my showers. Yeah, they finally.
Source. The one I've already got the
one. Jar of mango.
Chutney in India, it's not my brand, that's not my brand, but
it just shows you like how. Well, takeaways in like the UK
or wherever, they're just like commercialised buttered creamy
dishes that actually they like my Indian, my friends in India
are actually like, what is this? This is like an insult to our
food. But down here, mate, get me a
munchie box. Let's go half and half, yeah.
Yeah. Don't want chips?
Still want? Rice in England, you don't get
that. I've never experienced half and
half. Oh yeah, they do in America.
Panda, I've been to Panda Express.
No, but I've been. To PF Chang's similar, yeah.
Good spot Rolo, you like PF Chang's?
My friend Rodo's here by the. Way from How do you rolo know
each other? My.
First ever gig in New Zealand. This is a good story.
Rodo's actually my main surround fair bit, so if you follow me
you'll know a bit like how crazy this guy is.
But he he, he's, he's fairly nude over here in case.
He's watching, he's trying the. Manscape as we speak.
Can you not hear the buzz? I'm sorry.
The sub Blaze are in. He's up to the knee.
That's. OK.
First thing I had in New Zealand, even though he's from
South Africa, he lived in New Zealand.
How many years? 15 years.
And so this is back in the day where like you, I was barely
scraping by and I had to stay at his, actually stay at his house
because they couldn't afford to put me in a hotel.
He booked you for the put me for his.
Gig for his show. Literally about nine people
turned up to see me. So I mean, I was doing pretty
well. You know, I think maybe he has
to remortgage his house. He lost so much money on me.
Nine people more that would come.
And see me and turn that off. Yeah, this is like.
This is like right at the start, this is like what, 10 years,
1011 years ago, maybe more than that.
But he's the only promoter in history that I've actually had
to take home myself. They're, they're supposed to
look after you, right? You know, when you get booked,
they'll get you back to your hotel, whatever.
But I had to get him home. I had to, I had to drag him out
of his own night because he was very intoxicated on many
substances and mango chutney. Mango mango chutney.
Yeah. But May.
Absolute. Yeah, absolute.
And then he moved to America. So whenever I tour America,
mainly in Dallas, I stay in Dallas and we've we've done some
mad things together, like things that I wouldn't be able to talk
about on here. But like he he there's all I can
say is he's like Chuck Norris. I know how he's not like dead,
you know, like his heart, his heart should be his heart should
be gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, absolute legend of a guy just yeah, he's over here
for a few weeks. Visit incoming.
So he came to Bell Sonic. He's going to my.
I mean, I'm playing Glasgow tomorrow.
Well, this will be going out on the Wednesday, so it'll be done.
Yeah. Because Colours best tomorrow in
Glasgow. What do you like it here?
Yeah, it's an interesting portal.
He's been getting quite a lot of DMS. From the ladies.
Oh yeah. Yeah, he's got a few.
Followers of it as well. And now he's, you know, he
thinks he's like Hugh Hefner. Make the move, but.
What these women? What?
These women are doing is they're like oh you out you.
I'm going to go watch Big Jerry Cineman tonight down Bell Sonic
and I'm on tomorrow. Yeah, it's.
Like they're. Like, oh, Rolo, like what you up
to? Like you're going out there and
Rolo's like obviously trying to bite them out for a date.
But what? He didn't tell me that these are
like mums of my fans. So clearly they're trying to
maybe get to get to see me and meet me as well.
Like, and he's like, yeah, don't worry.
I'm like no, no, no, do not bring him to my house.
And they're not coming here. Yeah, no, no, lose the conduit.
That all. Electricity passes through.
He just connects people to you. So, yeah, so.
Rolo really is basically like an auxiliary and kind of chord take
it take taking like that what I call like the dregs.
The dregs. Yeah, there's last minute guest
his attempts like I've tried Ben's Instagram, he's not
replying. Hey Rolo, if I show you a little
bit, can you sort me backstage? He's like Ben, can you get him
in? I'm like, no, no, but yeah, God
loves to try her. Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah. So.
Before in in the kind of lead up to the show, you got like like
real I'll to the point where I was like, mate, what does like
tomorrow for the podcast? And you genuinely went, mate,
I've got to go and get my heart checked here and but I might be
able to do tomorrow. But I've been in A&E for like 8
hours and there's seven heart. There's a big problem in my
heart. So I don't know if I'll make it.
And I was like, hey, just, you know, it's not life or death.
This podcast, you know, but you were that felt felt like just
watching it through your stories and chatting to you.
But felt like that went from like naughty to 100 like really
quick. Yeah, I got so like.
I'm not I'm not afraid to talk about it on because I'm not here
calling out like I'm saying I'm pro vaccine, anti vaccine like
this is what happened to me. And I would just say to other
people like should be made aware that things that happen.
But so I had my second job, but first job I was fine.
Second job I had and then that evening I just woke up in middle
of night, 4:00 in the morning, like shaking heavily, which is
apparently like you can shake you get like flu symptoms shake
a lot, but it's like really like severely.
And then just had like a seizure on the floor, like hit the
floor. And then I just woke back up
again and like suddenly went to get up and I had another seizure
and I've got no pre-existing like issues like I'm actually
believe it or not, despite the parting, like I'm quite a
healthy person like you wouldn't think so, would you?
So I called the ambulance out and the one woman walked in.
She's like to my house, like, what do you do for a living?
Are you, are you a drug dealer? She said.
I was like, Nah, Mr Musician, that DJ kind of thing.
And then the other women recognised you said, oh, my
daughter's been to a gig or something like that.
Gonna say it must be. Stressful to call your own
ambulance mate. It was because I've.
Never I've I'm a bit of a I've got and I think my friends have
got this. I've got definitely got health
related anxiety. So I get a ticket.
I get like a pain in my chest. I think I'm about to heart
attack, like I'm that kind of person.
Right, right, right. Not extremely, but like I'm a
hypochondriac sometimes. So I call the ambulance.
He's like, yeah, that'll be 18 minutes.
They came and got me, my, my blood pressure kept dipping like
whilst they were there. They're like, this is not
normal. It's really weird.
So they said, we don't advise you to go to hospital, so we, we
can't force you to. But we didn't advise that you
did because your heart is doing some weird stuff and that's not
something that you want to tell someone when they're like
freaking out. So I went to the hospital.
I got into the like I said, can I go private?
So I was like, that sounds horrible, but like obviously
it's the royal, everyone kind of knows everyone now.
I was like, can I go to private? Like no, you've got to go into
the royal. So get into royal receptionist,
text me. I know who you are.
Oi, girls. Ben's ear.
Mate, rather than care about me, I'm there like they're all
taking selfies with me on the deathbed.
They were like taking a sweat all their phones out like taking
selfies with me. I'm not.
It might be his last. One I'm like, I'm yeah, I'm
there. Like guys like, can you just
like, rather than worry about picture like I'm actually like
not very well. Like so they, they did all these
blood tests on me, blah, blah, blah.
And I went home and they said, OK, everything seems to be fine.
But then two days later I started getting all these heart
pains. I went to my local surgery and
he did an ECG and he's like, you could have what's called
myocarditis, which is what loads of.
I don't think it's talked about much online, but like a lot of
young people have been getting it.
It's when you get inflammation of the heart.
So like the vaccine can kind of like put a bit of strain so it
gets inflamed and it's not actually that dangerous as long
as you take like ibuprofen or whatever.
But if you don't know about it and you.
They actually think that's why the football player that
collapsed a lot longer on the pitch.
Yeah. Christian, he had his vaccine
not long before that. Yeah.
So they think that maybe that could have been, he could have
had had mycarditis. Not known about it, but yeah, I
went and got blood tests and they thought I had it and the
wait was 14 hours in the royal. And again I was like, is there
nothing I can do? Can I, is there any way I can go
in quicker? And they're like no, no, no.
So I just, I just after 8 hours went now I'm going home and then
I've got a blood test the next day in the in the city which
tells you whether you've got this troponin level, which means
if if you've got a heart problem.
And it was clear, thankfully, but they when I had those
symptoms, they thought maybe I did have it so but I didn't in
the end. But what it doesn't explain the
seizures and stuff, but yeah, like I've definitely.
Heard of like? Most people like.
Like I got my second vaccine and for a day sort of felt like not
AI would describe yourself as not 100% but totally fine.
Like I could have gone to the gym or gigged or whatever.
This is the thing as well as. As much as like the whole the
way that things are right now with like, you know, the
passports for clubs and stuff, it's not ideal and personally
don't like me like what's going on, but I kind of when you, when
something like that happens, you know, when it happened to me,
obviously it looks really bad, like, oh, this is, you know, but
you gotta remember there's millions of people every day
that are having it as well and they're fine.
So I've got it. All my friends are sweet.
But like, you know, I, I personally didn't really want to
ever have this have the jab, but for work I had to.
And I try and stay really impartial online because you
know what it's like, it's like it's such a division between
people. I stay out of that because I
just wanted the lads to just like to have a laugh.
So like, I don't want to be like pro something or anti it.
So I just thought I just tell my experience of what happens.
I think people you're. Right in the most people are
either like on extreme sides and I think I'm someone who like,
you know, when they first talked with the vaccine, I thought,
well, I'll get like, I want to get that because because I want
to get the normal and I kind of trust that there's no like evil
thing to it. But that's totally my opinion.
I'm like, I presume there can't be this many people involved in
creating a vaccine, that kind of thing.
It's a little bit like, I'll be honest, I, I like.
For a long time, I'm quite a sceptical person so that I do
watch a lot of the documentaries on the, you know, certain
conspiracy things now and I and I do actually, don't get me
wrong, there's some mad shit that you know, is on.
There's some mad shit that happened that's happened in the
world that is not spoken about publicly because obviously, you
know, the news is like it, it's pretty bad.
But the way I thought the vaccine is that the only reason
I actually got it is one of my friends in America, his his
family work with Pfizer. And I asked him, I just I
actually asked him. I said honestly, like tell me
like really the the technology about it and which would be a
safer one? Because the AstraZeneca one,
obviously the people were having like few blood clots.
I think it was quite, quite a few problems.
So he was like Ben, it's like he he told me all about mRNA was
blah, blah, blah. So, you know, he didn't say it's
100% amazing. I believe in it.
But he kind of felt a bit more confident, like someone
explained what's going to happen to me.
Yeah, yeah. But no, like I just, I think I
was, I was like. Happy that again, I don't think
anybody would want that. You don't want to have a vaccine
but like if it's. There.
And I didn't know people that suffered real bad with COVID.
So I like, I don't like taking it.
I don't like taking painkillers, anything.
Just take them for fun. Great night out Streamline.
In the main. I, I don't like taking anything,
but if I have to, not if I have to, if I'm advised to and it's
going to help, it's going to protect people around me.
My personal opinion is I'm like, I'll get it.
Like no problem. I see.
I don't have been told what to do.
In general in like, I felt like I was being a little bit like
you're not letting me go into a club unless I have this.
I just didn't like that kind of I'm being told what to do.
But like I said, like you're saying as well is like, I think
it's, it wouldn't benefit anyone, including me being
online shouting about something that I necessarily couldn't
change. Like we all know as well as
anyone is these people at the top that run most of stuff don't
really help, mate. Ben Nikki said don't do it.
So that's not that's not my best policy.
If they're going to do something, they're going to do
it. So I kind of state my personal
opinions up with my friends are very much a side.
It's like my my DJ life. So like I said, I don't really
like take sides on it, but I just want people to know like if
they do get any, anything bad happens to them, that
myocarditis is quite common. And that's the only thing I'd
say is, is just because just make sure you just be careful
and you get any pains or whatever in your chest, just get
it checked out. And that's not me being pro
anti. That's just something that's
happened to me. Yeah.
And I get. Yeah, it's weird to be pro like
you should just be open to like hearing different things about
it. And as much as I like saw the
vaccine because of COVID as a good thing, I still think you
are going to unfortunately get like you say if yours was
related to that and you are going to get some things like
that. But then that is the gamble of
something like that as safe as they try and make.
I was really trying to be careful online.
Posting about it because I had people were screenshotting my
story and I had like, I had like people that were certainly
obviously a lot of anti vax people going like, This is why
someone was like, what a what a fucking sheep.
This, this DJ has gone and got a jab and now look what's happened
to him. And I was like, hang on a
minute, I'm talking out and telling you guys about what's
actually happened. Like I'm actually risking, you
know, so risking, but I'm kind of like, you know, talking out
about it, like give me some respect, man.
And then luckily quite a few people in that movement actually
know me quite well because they a lot of them following my
music. So he deleted it straight away.
This guy. But yeah, like I was trying to
getting like sucked into all these like different people that
were going like, this is what happens to you if you have it,
or this is what happens if you don't have it.
And I was like, I'm mate, I'm just a guy that had a scare and
tell him a story. I'm a DJI pay a few dunk tunes
in a bloom in park. Let me do my things.
I mean, you know, I, I, I. As like as an artist, I've
actually never said that sentence before, but as an
artist, I, I don't like the idea that you have to.
I'm not comfortable with that whole thing of like, you can't
come and see me unless you've had the vaccine because I do
understand. I do understand.
While I am not that personally, I understand people who are
like, I'm not, I'm going to not get it.
I go with that. Obviously this you do realise.
That if you if it was, they're now saying that you can't even a
negative test is not suffice, right?
That's what they're trying to bring in, because that's a level
I'm. Happy with I'm happy if you
don't want to get the vaccine but you're willing to do this
test if you're negative if you like so.
It's what happened in Scotland. They've now brought law from
October the 1st. You've got to have, you've got
to be double vaccinated. That's the only way to get in.
The thing is when you're vaccinated, you still carry the
virus like it, you know, you can still carry it.
So if someone went and they had no, they didn't have a COVID and
they called it up another double vaccinated person and took it
home to their person, to their family member who's not
vaccinated, that's really bad. If you can prove your negative,
even if you haven't got a job, if you can prove you've got a
negative test, surely that is way more safer because you're
not carrying it at all then risking actually going and get
catching it just because you've got, you know, a double vaccine.
So the negative testing, in my opinion, is a crucial part of of
the testing for events, especially look at the belt on
it when it was great. You know, there's people that
didn't want to have a have a job and they weren't forced to, They
could have a negative test. And you at that moment in time
do not carry anything. Yeah.
So in my opinion, that should
that, that option. I, I think it's just a way to
get a few more people vaccinated.
And government obviously wants everyone to have it.
But yeah, I am. I really think that the negative
test should should stay the option to have proven negative
tested because that that will really ruin not just nightlife
hospitality, but because if you know, surely you can't not be
allowed to go out because that's the only option.
I mean, it suits me. I might I?
Might lie and say half and have the vaccine because I actually
established don't let go. But you know, that's my excuse.
Half of your audience that comes to your show, you know, either
you know, don't want it or that maybe they maybe they
immediately can't have it because of a certain reason
arms. Whatever.
Although what's the protocol if? You could can you can be
medically. Exempt, yeah, there is no, but
I'm saying could you get it in? Other parts you could you get in
your legs. These use your arm have to be an
arm because that I mean to play a lot of big music heads with no
arms just fucking livid in the house like pro vaccine, pro
vaccine with no arms being like fuck sake.
I'm wanted like that. Before a lot of these people are
in London. Shows whatever let's say they
they haven't even been able to they haven't been able to get
their job or whatever you know like they can't your your
audience would say half because you've isolated your part of
your market then you earn less money because you've got less of
a crowd there. So the venue earns less, the bar
takes less. So the whole lot that this is
going to affect the hospitality industry again, I've not done it
even more so. So yeah, I hope, I hope they
reconsider. They haven't brought it into law
in England, but they're talking about it from October as well.
And I pray because it's going to massively affect and it would
massively affect things here as well because especially with the
16 plus crowds of the Balsonics new customer squares, as most of
those ages wouldn't be recommended to probably get it.
So if they can't get in because they haven't got it and then
what? Then what happens to that
market? So yeah, I hope that doesn't
come in. Would you remember?
Like in olden times, I don't know exactly when like people
would live underground and like underground times and cities and
like especially in like Edinburgh.
If you ever do like an Edinburgh tour, would you?
Ever like. Would you if that became a thing
again and they said he basically just said legal raid?
But trying to make it in a really like was like a metaphor.
I'm saying, would you live? Underground.
All right, and. This came back.
In and became a thing if you didn't like what was happening
above ground and then you were told like listen, this might be
more of the vibe. Would you consider underground.
Bear in mind the trade off is more things you want to do
things you maybe disagree with. They're not.
Happened on it, but no sunlight. See, I actually because I'm a
big fan of Lord of the Rings, so that actually I'm getting a
little bit horny listening to the Hub.
Yeah, Yeah. I seriously I you drive around a
town. Underground car parks like I do.
Make the NCP gets me go in row. Seriously.
I actually like the sound of that is amazing.
I love like I like like like fantasy kind of like movies and
the things like that with the magic, like magical, like not
your Harry Potters, but like, yeah, you know, like Lord of the
Rings, things like that. So yeah, I actually I generally
actually think that would be amazing.
Like to do that. I mean, I wouldn't plan the rest
of my life doing it, but maybe maybe a year underground.
It was an unbelievable. It might be a Vice documentary
or just an article, but a thing is documentary about in Vegas
because you're in Vegas. Obviously mom like mom made.
They have like a massive sewer system.
I've seen that and there's people.
From the drug addicts in that loads, yeah, yeah, I've seen
that. I mean, it's going to attract.
Somebody, you know, an underground city like, come on,
of course there's going to be some loopers there.
But like. This double word.
Here, Balloon. Balloon.
He's a balloon. Oh, you're fucking?
Balloon may absolutely. What a word.
I've been using that all week. Anyone that describes?
Someone as a balloon is themselves.
If you look closely, they're a balloon themselves.
OK, I'll take. I'll use it.
Your fucking balloon. I'm like you're a balloon.
Or a fruit. Or a fruit.
Yeah, I. Mean that's that's I mean here's
the thing that has changed over time because there's that video
is that I can. 50P dickhead a dynamic 50P dickhead a class
video yeah yeah, I've watched that and it was saying it's like
you fruit or whatever and I thought it was a great word as
well. I mean, there's so.
Like I remember, like there's some fantastic words that I
don't realise aren't used and I, I genuinely realise aren't used
anywhere else. Like I said, dead on quite a
lot. Yeah, everyone is that.
Yeah, I've actually started. No.
No, but I've. Started to like adopt that a
little bit because how threatening is that?
From a Northern Irish person, if you've never heard before
outside the Northern Ireland I'm in costage like A225I dead on if
you. Think if I think of it that way,
yeah, it's quite intimidating. Like I want to.
Lethal everyone that's. Lethal, lethal, lethal that.
Everyone used the word lethal. Which again used out of.
Context. Yeah, yes.
Have a pint. How's your pint?
Lethal, Everyone. Everyone.
Everyone just says holy fuck yeah, holy fuck yeah to the
things that. Aren't even mad.
Yeah, yeah. Where do you have the T-shirt?
Boohoo. Holy fuck.
It's not really. It's grand enough it quid made
of being on sewing. Machine and why like the?
Show looked unreal, seemed to have gone so well.
I want to introduce a new feature on the podcast called
mugged off because the T podcast.
OK, so let me. Ask you.
You know, like doing the show and that sort of thing and being
back out in like the last couple of weeks.
Has anything still do? We're like, I've just been
mugged here, even in a small way because I was mugged just before
we did this podcast. You.
Go first. So on my.
I'm a wanderer. I just wander around places and
end up like do it like for example, yeah, at 2 on a Monday
afternoon, they're like, we don't open till Thursday, but
then. But I arrived pretty early down
to the studio and and then I was like, damn, Michael's.
I just want like anything at the shops.
And then I went to the shops and that.
But I just got like haircut, like an unplanned haircut.
Not in this at the barbers because there's a guy raffle
right on there who shorts me out.
So I walked past the barbers was like, I might actually just get
a bit of a trim. Come see Joey Cinnamon tomorrow
night, you know, get a haircut. And then I got a haircut and
there was a guy waiting probably in his early 20s, like kid, I
got my haircut and then I had to go back because they only take
cash. So I go back and Rafael is
cutting this kids hair and then the Barber drops a minute
because he goes, he's back. What did you want to say to him?
And you can clear the guy. You can see clearly the guy
didn't want to say it to me, but he's just acting the big man.
He's like, I was going to say this to him.
No, he's been put on the spot. And I'm standing there and the
guy goes, Rafael goes, what did you want to say?
And the guy goes, yes, he says, I I thought he was going to say
like, love the videos. He said you're your character
Mike McGoldrick, which is the Ollie's going type characters
telling you what he goes. Now, bear in mind this is not an
interview. I mean, it's just a I'm just in
a Barber shop for 30 seconds. He spins around in a chair like
real dramatic like Doctor Yvonne goes.
Would you say you're Mike McGoldrick character is burnt
out? What a boy.
That razor closer down to his throat, that's like the fucking
manscape out there. Like no facial?
Expression he's like yeah, yeah, I used to love it.
He goes. You still doing it anymore or is
that just you finished because I bet you felt so insecure.
Suddenly you're like, wait, I've explained myself to you now
because, because. And then he was like, he goes,
no, I really like, I'm just, I suppose you've just you've, I
mean, you can't. It's probably just run its
course has it? And I don't feel that, but I was
like, yeah, it's probably just some fucking done.
I'm quitting. And then and then I and then the
guy goes, he looked back just into the mirror to like continue
the haircut as I'm still standing there.
And he said, yeah, I'm a spare time.
I'm a critic. And I, you know, just like being
funny. I went, so is everyone.
And he went, no, I'm literally a critic.
Didn't. Say who?
You got it done. From or anything like that, but
it was you know he wasn't even trying to be it was like you
wouldn't trying to be a deck or anything like that.
But it's just funny that people have no qualms of being like so
that's not funny anymore, is it? And you're like no, because you
can't go yeah, it is push him off the Barber chair.
Yes, I've actually because I actually.
Watched it. I've actually one thing that we
stuck to me is watching like some of the Ricky Gervais stuff
back in the days I make up big Office fan, Office, Partridge,
all that. Yeah, you know, off by heart,
but he was saying sometimes people will literally like, it's
like having an advert for guitar lessons, you know, in the in the
town centre and someone will like which you walk past and
ring up this poster and go, I don't fucking want guitar
lessons. You know, like if you don't like
something, move the fuck on. If you're going, if you go and
pass McDonald's running and go, I fucking hate hamburgers.
You know, if you don't like something, crack on.
I mean his what? Word says his problem was he
used to like it. He just doesn't want it done
again. I get a lot of music.
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get a lot of music. So, so, so, so you sold yourself
for money, did you? I was like, man, I play the same
stuff I played my whole life. And I'll do what I don't owe you
a favour. Like I I want to go through my
life and do what I want to do. I'm not, I don't make a decision
and go like, oh, Ronald from, you know, Leeds has said to me,
oh, you know, like your music's not what I like anymore.
I'm not going to change it for you, mate.
I'll do what I want to do, mate. Like leave me the hell alone.
So, yeah, I do get quite a lot, to be honest with you.
But this is funny. Oh, who for?
Myself. Yeah, yeah.
Imagine you count. You cut.
First of all, I didn't even know critics were still a thing.
Well, everyone's, everyone on. Twitter thinks that they for
somehow their voice is more important than a fact.
One thing I do. Find relatively funny is when
you put up a video or something and someone just writes under
it. Shake shite.
Yeah, get it all the time. Not get it all the time.
Yeah, I had it all the time. Shade.
Yeah. And all the all these, all these
kids, all they're trying to do is get, they're trying to get a
few likes on it to look cool. And then when you reply and go,
your mum was shite last night, they always delete a comment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, always, Yeah, always.
But no, I know it's it now. We're in an era now where
everyone just tries to, even if they don't believe it.
I've had people give me death threats before just to get a
reply. Like literally like mate, that's
the way it's getting to nowadays.
Like literally I hope you die. Someone said to me the other
day, so I literally mate, how mad is that to go out of your
way to say that someone. So I literally screenshotted it
and just and showed my fans and was like, look, this is the kind
of thing I get received. And then then, then someone had
a go at me for showing the person that's that was telling
me to die. So I'm now having to stick.
I'm now trying to stick up for my right not to die and trying
to be a good person saying this is this should not be said.
This is the world we live in, mate.
So yeah, if you ever want to send me a message saying I hope
you die, Ben, you've got to take accountability for that.
You what I might do. I might.
Sit behind a little egg logo all.
Day I might change my profile. Picture to have like my SSE
shows in the in the photo like in text and then I'm going to
send you a death threat and you'll send that to your
followers but like look fucking look at this guy saying yeah
their threat but they still might see make it but.
It's mental, I think in this day and age, like if you're going to
sit on like a keyboard and you know, say something that bad, no
matter who you are, what age or whatever, you've got to take
accountability for it. Like you can't just you know, if
you're in the street and you mug someone, you know, you can't,
you can't, you can't get away with it under like a fake
account, like you take accountability for for stealing
something. But online, if people want to
like, you know, be Dicks or whatever, like there and at the
same time it's it's funny in them.
We all get it now and then. It's whatever.
But I I think it's the. It's when people almost like act
like they're surprised that happening.
Of course there's going to be like negative comments on
something you can't. It's like especially you see
people that are like new to putting stuff out online, they
get shocked that there's negative comments at all.
And it's like, well, if you want a good comment like it's tough
to get. Even Mother Teresa would never
have got 100% likes on YouTube. You never dislike me.
Yeah. The thing is now is, it's now.
That's shy. Yeah.
Shy. Yeah.
I hope you die. Mother Teresa saves 3000
children from from poverty. Get some university degrees.
Yeah. Shy bro.
Yeah, but that's but that's what I mean.
But I think people nowadays is that they're not doing it
because they mean it. They're just trying to look like
a like a rebel. So everyone like, yeah, they
look like the the joker of the pack.
But if you're not, if you haven't got a strong mind,
people like, I know people that like some of my mates like like
on social media, they can't deal with it.
Like, Oh my God, like I'm terrible.
My mate, it's a guy watching stuff.
He obviously loves you. I like just mate.
It's just part of what it's part of social media.
The worst thing you can do is just.
If someone always writes the same thing or whatever when you
just don't give them anything, that kills them inside.
If we could have 10. Comments all now with you
watching this video on YouTube saying shite be fucking
brilliant I want to get like yeah that'll be brilliant let's
all just write shite under this video yeah like and then write.
Shite, Yeah and write in brackets and subscribe to my
channel. Really enjoyed it.
Really really enjoyed it. Shade.
Bra, full stop. Was it shite?
Bar bra bra like.
Isn't. Brother or would.
That be like a thing here. Bra.
People just say bra. In general, I've never heard
that, yeah. You probably.
Have. But it's so like it's so like
quick and subtle. You don't hear it.
Like someone will say the mini English translation would be
what is happening brother? And someone usually what's
happening on bra. I'd say we'd say Bro I.
Could call mates bro. Yeah, but Bra.
Like you've got almost like you've got to fall asleep
halfway through it now. Like you're like, you wear a
bra. No, you.
Go bro you. Start with bro and then you fall
asleep and then you get your bro.
Or right you go bra like you got a dip and go back bra bra.
Like. That's the key bit is the is the
bottom of it like that's the nicest bit to be in and then it
trails off what's happening bra? You know you've got it now.
It's. Zero.
OK, easy all the time and when you start.
Calling people bra in England and then I wanted to start
catching around there. I'm actually you're credited.
For it and lethal. Lethal.
Yeah, let's set. On trying to think is there
another like more? Niche one I can give you I I
think I've. Got a few of my mate like my
mates always that when they're going like they spin the wheels
tonight let's spin the wheels. Not heard that before.
No. No.
In in England, no. Here, Here, yeah.
They spin the wheels by BAI by and does that mean let's?
Go out. Yeah, that's just like going to.
Mammoths spin the wheels. Also it's not like ghetto.
Just here bro. Spin the wheels like couple uses
it all the time. My mates are Barber.
Yeah, used all the time. Let's see, I spin the wheels by.
Spin the wheels and buy. Like B.
AI like the boy like, which I think is like a more the farmer
thing here. Yeah, like when you live in a
town. Or whatever you can't.
Oh, I'll be. Down my way in the old rabbit
fields. They love the old buy.
Let's spin the wheels. Yeah, don't know that one.
We're shocking diesels, obviously a big one.
What we're shocking diesel. We're sucking diesel.
Sounds like some of. Pornhub, yeah.
That old wrestler, remember him? Oh, I yeah.
Shocking date. Well, shocking Diesel means
like, let's do it Lit. She's lit.
Yeah, yeah, Get lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love that one because Americans use that.
It's a shame you didn't. We didn't prepare.
Like maybe a list of sayings to see if I could have worked about
because I think I think I've worked about most of it now.
When you come on for the hat trick of.
Appearances. We can, we can do that.
I mean, do I? What happens?
Then I mean, do we go from like manscapes up to hard cash?
I'm going to bring you a live. Doc presented to you by Sam
Smith. They'll be sat over there.
I'll say Sam, bring out Doc. Go get Sam Smith Broer.
Why can't we get Sam Smith on the show?
I could get I. Think we get Sam Smith in the
podcast and Sam Smith is? Correct me if I'm wrong.
So not this politically correct stuff.
And I think they'd be happy to. Come on, Sam Smith is is not.
It's they Sam Smith is identified, so I use any time.
Sam Smith is identified. As a just as a is it just an as
a human that is not a gender, not gender.
Yeah, he's no definitely human. Yeah.
He's human. Yeah.
I mean, I'm they, it. Works.
I used it before you said that's.
Why I will. I'll only use that because
that's what that's what. But it's true, there is what
they prefer. It's true though, isn't.
It that you? Can't.
You wouldn't be able to say. You wouldn't, Yeah.
You wouldn't be able to say bra. You would've said say bra.
You could say. You probably could.
You mean you caught anyone, bro, But you would have to use they
as well. So you would call, you would
shout over and you'd say like say you're going to Nandos, you
go. You would go.
Do you use all Do you say do they want to do they want to
come to Nandos bro? They also say they.
So if you if. You if you're.
If your agenda is classed as just like, is it what what's
this mean? I don't think I'm educated here.
Like, what is that? No, I I believe he identifies as
just as a person, not as like a as male or female.
Yeah, yeah. So I just want to like get this
correctly on what's on the podcast, how to identify, I
don't know, Sam Smith because obviously they yeah, good word
was twerking in in my room the other night and I'd like to get
in contact with them. Hey, we are politically correct.
That's. Why I like to be fair though.
We I mean, you talk yourself out of best meal in the at the bird
awards category. They couldn't.
I mean, yeah, that's the collaboration they.
Couldn't nominate him for it. I.
Don't mean he couldn't nominate himself, I mean the Georgian
panel couldn't. Oh seriously?
Wow. OK, fair enough.
I was, that was the first person I've ever heard that done that
before I saw in the news and I was like wow, OK, like cool.
I like your trainers. Thanks mate, really comfy.
Yeah, I'm going to the gym. After and I you are rocking some
Kermits there, but can we get on camera we see Kermit Green yeah,
but don't know they're don't say.
They're Kermit. They're just green.
No Kermit green like. You said get them on camera, no?
Show my white socks which is the ultimate version move.
What you'd be classed is called peacocking.
What does that mean? When I was.
Younger I studied. This is really weird.
I studied seduction. My favourite way of saying.
You're a player. My my phrase is like.
This is something you have to watch.
My friends were into thing My friend was a pickup artist, so
he literally have you have you heard about this?
Yes. OK, Have you read the?
Game. Neil Strauss No.
Yes you have. I swear I haven't if you
struggle with. Women, go and read a book called
The Game by Neil Strauss. Change your life.
Don't just be. Dead on.
Just be dead on. No, it's not.
Having a good. Personality never got.
Anywhere, anywhere, I tell you this book.
No, you have don't they say. At the start of that, you like
you do an insult. Like a playful insult?
Yeah, it's called a nag. But so basically me, me and my
mates, what's wrong with this song?
It's you've got to act. Sing you, you depend do.
You know how easy it is. With Tinder and Bumble and
humble, all these things, whatever, it's so easy to go and
meet someone now. Like people like your swipe.
You know when you're like on the on the Tinder swiping.
Not that I've ever done it. You know, when you're swiping
left or right or whatever, that's a potential like, rather
than go on a date and meet someone in one second, you've
decided whether you like someone or not.
So yeah, I studied this, this like a long time ago when I was
like 18 or whatever. It's like a long time ago.
But me and my mates, this is no joke, would go out and like use
these routines like when we were abroad and stuff and literally
mate, it was ridiculous. Let me just say.
Crushing it. Let me just say.
If that, if that is how the lady is picked up, she ain't worth
it. She ain't worth it because I
think you've got to do old school romance.
And I don't think, no, I'm not. No, no, no, I don't want anybody
to read it. I don't like the nag.
I don't like you nag me talking about my kermits.
I've are you talking to me? I gave you a.
Nag, you're like, yeah. If you've been to the mall means
long because you're just, yeah, bring a snooker.
Do you like Sam Smith? Yeah.
Honestly. Actually.
Like I the reason I read it is he used to tour with I think it
was Mötley Crüe and The Rolling Stones or something.
He's doing a documentary. I love her on some my.
Favourite bar? There you go.
And he? Came across he was in a bar and
the rolling maybe it was with Mötley Crüe, someone he was with
and he was in a bar in Hollywood, this guy Neil
Strauss. And there was this guy walking
around with like bright, bright green, but he had some crazy
shoes on and a big top hat. He was walking around and he
pulled like Paris Hilton and like Britney Spears and all
these girls. And he's like who is this guy?
Like he was peacocking like hard so that where peacocking comes
up and he was a professional pick up artist.
And these guys now they train people for like 5 grand an hour
like these these geeks that like I've sat in a room doing
Microsoft whatever coding the whole life.
I've never seen a girl like they're paying these people.
So when I was younger, me and my mates, we like read this book
and it was just like hilarious. And we just went out and did it
for a laugh. What's wrong with presenting the
lady? With the floor or an Excel
spreadsheet. Yeah, do you like codes?
A song floor. Yeah, I mean like.
Obviously, like nowadays, it's Yeah, if you're good enough to
answer, you don't need. Any of that.
Yeah, yeah, I'm. Actually, I'm actually the it's
on the neck. You know, yeah, it's, I would
just say I. Would just say less neg more
neck. Interesting.
It's the. Interesting thing he's got neck
DJ Craig David. Seven days you did, Craig Ed.
Yeah, Love Craig, David. I've met I met him when I.
Played at Tomorrowland Random that Craig David play at
Tomorrowland. It wouldn't fit.
It's great. David No, I think he did like a
stage of like maybe tomorrow R&B or something.
But I was sat next to him on the flight on the way home and I
just all I could keep thinking about was both selector and I
felt so bad because I know that it was bad like which is an egg.
To sit down and go, that'd be called a hard neck.
Or hard neck. Yeah, yeah.
And and another word in in the world of pick a part is, by the
way, I'm not a pick a part. I still know.
I've literally just read a book. But is a time constraint.
So like, if you're in a bar, I love this fact.
We're talking about dating advice like out here.
Like at the end of the day, if you're a DJ, just give a
backstage pass. You don't need to.
You don't. Need any any.
Kind of dating advice, if you're, if you've got a bit of
clout, like it's fine, but a time constraint would be as
you'd like, you turn around to a girl and be like, I've only got,
hey, I've only got one minute, but can I ask you this?
And because you've already like said, you've got to go, you
already paid hard to get before you even put the question in.
So you like you have it, you like you're kind of looking like
you, I've got to leave already. And that's got a time
constraint. So you'd start with that and
then probably do a neg or a question.
One question that people used to say is you would say, Hey, do
you guys just see that fight outside?
And they'll be like, no. And you'd tell his mentor, I
just saw a Midget fighting like an elderly guy.
And they'd be like, what the hell?
And it's so random that they would get a conversation going
that would get you in with a group of people that you're
interested in. Yeah, it's mad, mate.
It's absolutely mad. It's it's a massive science to
it. Like it's crazy.
I'm going to bring the, I'm going to bring the game in for
him. That's right in the book.
I'll be very interested. To take some pearls of wisdom.
But obviously I made it. Like, but I'm more sceptical
about. That than anti vaxxers or about
COVID. Yeah, that who wrote that?
Neil Strauss. Neil Strauss, Balloon.
Balloon. Balloon.
Absolute balloon. Thanks so much for coming on,
man. It's, it's all honestly always
so much fun. And please come on for the hat
trick. Yeah.
How long have you been? Doing this now I don't know oh
in. General the broadcaster or
episodes? Give me none.
Probably not on a little bit. Goes quick, goes quickly.
I got to pick up my laundry, I think.
We covered many. We covered such education
covered apart from me going to hospital pick up our S balloons.
Sam Smith, I mean, and what would make my day is maybe get
in Sam Smith on air for you one day so we can meet them.
I think it'd be. A 10 out of 10 episode I I think
I'd have found Sam Smith to be dead.
On 100% hundred. Percent and also fucking great
though, like some belt like that album in the midnight or
actually I've never listened. To a Sam Smith song let me tell
you honest like like the ones on the radio.
I think dancing is dancing with something really good song but
see like just. Before that first album, there's
a song he did with White Noise called Latch Oh.
Disclosure, of course, that's what goes.
I know that one, of course, yeah.
Yeah, those are not. He had some like EP that was
recorded in like a church and really good.
Can I ask whatever what? Kind of guest TV.
Have you had on recently or he got coming up and that's not me.
I try to plug your I'm sure like I actually genuinely from from
the world. Of just into like people that I
would. Like that would know of like
just maybe intriguing when John, we love we love having.
Boxers yeah, it's always like a good episode don't know what it
is where boxers and user man I just.
Thought is it Michael Connor Michael.
Michael was in. Here what like a month ago, just
before his fight, I got invited to the by 1.
Of the boys to his fight. But I was DJ and I would love to
go on to that. Yeah.
For it Is that one that was in Falls Park?
Yeah. It looked unbelievable.
But it rained so. So you didn't go because?
Of the rain and like. It's not cool when you're like,
yes, I'm up for this gig, let's spin the wheels, but also let's
check the forecast in the way it was that you get the.
Forecast. Ben, cheers for coming on.
I appreciate it and. I will let you guys know how the
landscape goes and when that gift arrives. 700% I'm going to
hopefully. The I'll be able to hear better.
Once they hear and the nose hair all different game I will cheer.
The suction will. Be great on my nose.
Yeah, Rollo. Cheers.
For common manner, yeah, it's big Ginger the tea.
Big shout out to Rolo. Here on a scale one to. 10 Don't
lie 10 fuck it and we're going. To go and see my own
performance. SSE end of the month.
Yep. And obviously I'm going to Jerry
tonight and again tomorrow, yeah.
Because genuinely, why am, why am I not going tonight?
What's it going to do tonight? It's going to rain.
It's going to rain tomorrow. 12% chance of precipitation.
Rock on. This is how prepared I was for.
Today I rang up because I did bell Sonic last week.
I was like the the the production manager actually
won't give his name because then everyone probably tried message
him for free stuff, but he was like, you come down today, I'll
give you a car pass. So when so when you can drive,
you know, like they close the road off, you can drive in and
then you can literally before the end of the concert Got
there's I get back X out the park.
Yeah, yeah. Because when I did Bell Sonic.
Last time there's like a little people, I realised all me park
is like a little secret Rd that gets you out of the park without
anyone seeing you and is there any way you can get out so that,
yeah. What are people waiting at the
entrance for? You know the number one
middle-aged. Middle class thing now about
going to concerts is what about whenever you leave slightly
before the end and beat the traffic?
You know when you get out of the car park, there's a buzz.
The face. Driver, oh I mean Paul
particular, you look at everyone who goes, he told.
You it was worth they leave 2 songs in.
Yeah. That'll be me tonight.
I'll be back in bed with the Coco pops, mate.
Yeah, yeah, I'll beat the traffic.
Shite night. I got home early, didn't even
see him. Come on.
Just for that. Fucking that.
Moment and then you go to an underground car park Yeah, I'm
going to let you know that goes. As well, because I genuinely
want to. I think they're called Dwellers.
Dwellers. I want to be a.
Dweller. If I ever build a bunker in the
garden with the rabbits and all that, you'll be the first man.
Free me, you and Rollo. Yeah.
You do not want to be. Yeah.
Thanks man. Appreciate.
It thanks so much man.