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Zippers, welcome to this episode
of the Tea With Me podcast. 

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Unless you've been living under 
a rock for the last few years, 

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you know of or are addicted to, 
like me and many other people 

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here, the traitors. 
What a series. 

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Rachel Duffy from here, from 
Newry one. 

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No spoilers. 
Come on. 

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Yeah. 
Won the latest series of The 

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Traders and was one of the, if 
not the best contestant of all 

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time. 
We tried to make this episode 

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happen for a while. 
We're going to do it in London. 

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It didn't work out. 
We finally made it happen here. 

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Please enjoy this episode of the
TV With Me podcast with my 

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amazing guest, Rachel Duffy. 
I've got a horrible reception. 

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When I walked in, she was like, 
yeah, doesn't know me. 

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I don't know, human. 
Like I get I would really annoy 

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me. 
Like it would really annoy me. 

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I lie in the family. 
She tells the truth, right? 

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You do lie, like, yeah, yeah. 
I can't trust. 

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I could never trust you after 
watching the traders. 

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You're looking shock and well 
today. 

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Right. 
Well, now I know you that was 

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just put on for the show because
you do tell the truth all the 

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time. 
I tried, you know what, for 

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this, this first ever podcast. 
Yeah, I tried to get Leanne 

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Mccooley to come and crash the 
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couldn't today. 
I would love it. 

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She was going to come in and 
just, yeah, the door down and 

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come on. 
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best friends at school. 
But were you like, how do you 

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know Mccurry? 
I can't stand her. 

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Right. 
Yeah. 

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So we went to, yeah, we went to 
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together, right. 
So I've known her from, we were 

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11. 
And then when she had a wee 

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coffee shop, I take the kids on 
our wee dates and stuff. 

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And I supported her winter 
comedy nights when it was just 

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in her actual like little. 
Do you ever come and see me 

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there? 
Huh. 

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Do you ever come and see me 
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No, no. 
Why? 

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I think I was busy that night. 
I've done so many like and I 

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gave for your brother so much 
too. 

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Do you know what? 
And the football club? 

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Yeah. 
I think you were there one of 

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the nights where you went down, 
me and my sister went down to 

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watch her in our place. 
And then I couldn't make the 

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night. 
You did down at the football 

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club. 
It was brilliant actually. 

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Really enjoyed that I. 
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went to see her in the in the 
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flat which is in Warrenpoint, 
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the show came so. 
Right, this is mental to me. 

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So you Mccooley was saying you 
went you and basically some of 

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the cast of the traders went to 
see her after the show was done.

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Yeah. 
So the show obviously can't talk

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about it. 
So the show finished in June and

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then we have a like a WhatsApp 
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What's the name of the group? 
Oh, that's a good story. 

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That's actually a good story. 
So the WhatsApp group. 

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Was impressed by my interview in
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I how can I know what the name 
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Because that wasn't planned at 
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So the WhatsApp group was called
traders and then I thought. 

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I mean, not very original, no 
for whoever named. 

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But I had said I says folks can 
some. 

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I wasn't an admin at the time 
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Like being admin in groups. 
Yeah, I love control, but I was 

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one of the last ones to leave 
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won. 
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and then I had joined it and I 
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either Land of their faces or, 
you know, murdering them. 

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So then I had sets up. 
Yeah, come on. 

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Yeah, that's a phone call. 
No. 

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No, right. 
No, no, not really. 

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So I got added into the group 
and then I was like, oh God. 

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I said my kids pick up my phone 
and watch YouTube and all this. 

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I said I can't have a traders. 
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change this? 
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Rachel's university friends. 
And I was like, you don't have a

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group called your own university
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And I was. 
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something cooler? 
By the way, I'm actually jealous

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of you because if my kids saw 
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didn't go to university. 
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Bit daddy packed mates. 
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somebody change this to 
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Yes. 
So it's called something cooler.

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Oh, it's called something 
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I like it. 
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And another way you can hide a 
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So it was hidden, right. 
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popped his head out the other 
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to hide this anymore. 
So could you not tell your kids 

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you'd done the show? 
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Kids tell everything, don't 
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Yeah. 
So no, they didn't know. 

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So like. 
My son told his assembly that I 

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shaved my chest. 
I'm glad all their parents 

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right? 
You shave your chest. 

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This is when I wasn't telling 
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I'm glad my kids don't know why 
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How often is that group posted 
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All the time. 
Still, yeah, I didn't say 

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honest. 
Have you muted? 

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No, I can show yet. 
No, I can. 

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Let you have a pick it up. 
Who post the most in it? 

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Why not mute? 
It does not do your head no do. 

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You know what, because there's 
not a lot of shite talk. 

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It's, you know, it's 
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know someone's had a good event 
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Amanda posted, I think she's one
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Hugo, meet Hugo. 
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she'd met up in Edinburgh. 
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loads of stuff about that, but 
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to be friendly. 
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of all the kind. 
She said that like, is she doing

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something like you should bring 
fighting dogs? 

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No, just about. 
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something. 
You could go down a rabbit hole 

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when someone posts a picture of 
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as one. 
That dogs do down rabbit holes. 

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Don't know where this 
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Neither do I Does anyone is 
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Like who's not like I'm? 
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Does he chat much in the group? 
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right? 
I loved him, yeah. 

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Loved that he was a. 
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I get attached to everybody in 
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Yeah, but you know what? 
Me and him, we just got along. 

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He, he doesn't talk for the sake
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I do in real life on the show. 
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like trying to be, you know, 
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Yes. 
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of Del Boy, right? 
And he was just a cool dude with

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a hat on backwards. 
You Del Boy was a cool dude. 

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Yeah, Oh my God. 
Del Boy. 

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Yeah, Del Boy. 
From only foots and horses. 

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Yeah, he's so cool. 
Oh, Oxy and. 

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No. 
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Do you not an only films and I 
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That was the first, the theme 
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That was the first song I ever 
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Can you sing? 
Only the only, but beautifully 

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like, really like an acoustic 
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Is that on your LinkedIn kind of
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OK, yeah, no, I can't think. 
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pretty cool and he talks like 
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So when when he talked, I'm 
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I was, I could listen to him. 
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he'll post when he could be 
bothered, right? 

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Oh spend 100 grand today, but 
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Can't buy anything online. 
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Oh, I would buy gold. 
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worth of gold today in Belfast? 
It has to be jewellery, Tony. 

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Do you know what I mean? 

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I never thought I remember first

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series of it and when people are
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lose interest and I go 
everyone's people are too into 

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I'm not getting into it. 

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And I thought it was something I
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And then I started season 3 and 
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I'm in. 
I'm just in. 

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What do you think of Season 4? 
Was that when you're in? 

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Yeah, I thought I I 
unfortunately think I knew you'd

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won before I so when 4 was 
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three, so I knew you'd won. 
How did you know I'd won when 

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nobody knew I won? 
Because it had already aired. 

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Oh, so then I watched it very 
recently. 

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But I I watched I. 
Mean you didn't watch it in 

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January when all of Northern 
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I'm so disappointed. 
I know because I still had to 

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finish three. 
And then I watched the Irish one

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too. 
Oh yeah. 

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But I thought, I didn't think 
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I was like, you'll it seemed 
really difficult to sustain what

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you've done because it was the 
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Like there was no wobble. 
Oh, there were wobbles. 

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I didn't feel like you were ever
not going to win if I hadn't 

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seen it. 
If I hadn't known you were going

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to win, Yeah, I'd have known 
from like episode 2 or three you

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were going to win. 
Like our our family group chat, 

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the five siblings are in a group
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The Avengers, oh, the Shane Todd
fan club. 

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It can be now. 
In brackets, who's Shane? 

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So the group chat like yeah, 
where do you know what our 

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family are? 
The biggest Shane Todd like fans

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ever. 
Well, I have a bone to pick with

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your family. 
That's a that hold on, that's 

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that's a sign bite for you. 
But in our group chat, my one of

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my older brothers who doesn't 
drink or anything, he'd be 

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saying how much of A diazepam do
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I can't cope. 
I really can't cope. 

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Tell me if you've won. 
I'll not tell anybody. 

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And I mean, it went on the whole
months to the end where they'd 

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say, we're going to book the 
Canal Court, we're going to 

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watch it all together. 
And I was like, you don't know 

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if I'm in the last episode 
together. 

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And they're like, oh, all right,
OK. 

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And then when it came to the 
chest, the chance they're like, 

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we could have booked this room 
and you could be in it for 30 

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seconds. 
And then they'd no faith in me 

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because they were like, even if 
you get through, you're 

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completely fucked because nobody
believes you. 

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It's like, thanks very much. 
I've won the pick with your 

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brother. 
OK. 

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Which 10, Darren? 
I was asked playing charity 

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match for New York City. 
I said yeah, what's the fee said

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for charity? 
I said all right. 

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And a play against Liverpool. 
Liverpool legends. 

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Yeah, I just say Liverpool what 
I'm talking about. 

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But like they're all over sexy 
and them. 

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And I said the Darren, listen, I
went if I score, will you send 

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me? 
And he said yeah. 

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And what did I do? 
Is water wet scored no contract.

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I scored. 
You remember I scored and did 

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that. 
Oh, is that what that meant? 

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That's what that was. 
I. 

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Thought you were writing a check
to yourself? 

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You're cashing your own check, 
but. 

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It was never shined. 
Do you know what our Darren 

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actually said? 
You are one of the best 

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footballers he had in that 
pitch. 

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Are you just saying that? 
Are you actually just saying 

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that? 
You said you're shit. 

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Actually. 
Had a great game. 

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We when we were talking about 
you last night because he was 

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like, enjoy tomorrow. 
And I said yeah, no bother. 

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And he's all I remember that 
goal, he says. 

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That was a good goal. 
I meant a lot to me. 

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Yeah, he did. 
He said that. 

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He said it was good. 
Yeah. 

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Being serious, yeah, that really
means a lot to me because he's a

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football man. 
I like when football man saying.

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Things. 
He knows stuff. 

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Do you know that me and my 
sister Joe were at that match 

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and you know our favourite part 
of it was? 

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When I scored a goal. 
No meeting Jason Mcateer. 

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What? 
Over me, Mcateer. 

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Yeah, he let himself down. 
See, every game he plays, I 

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don't. 
Care how he plays he he smelt 

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lovely. 
Fancy Jason McAfee You? 

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Know what? 
Like we grew up watching him in 

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the 90s and stuff and I was 
like, oh, he's so lovely. 

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And then we went to, we went to 
Anfield recently. 

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We had curtains, didn't they? 
Yeah, he was just very nice. 

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And then so we met him and we 
met him down at the showgrounds 

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and then we were like, oh he's 
lovely and he was so friendly 

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and a nice person. 
And then we went to Anfield 

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recently, we've met a couple of 
the legends and the next thing 

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it was just like the doors of 
the the left opened and Jason 

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popped out and me and my sister 
went. 

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Are you confusing him with Jason
Orange from Take That? 

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No. 
Do you mean Jason Mcateer? 

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Jason Mcateer. 
He's lovely, isn't he, JoJo? 

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He smelt oil. 
Yeah, whatever he's wearing. 

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He, well, I'll tell you what, 
he's a he's, he's really 

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annoying when you play football 
and he's always just, he's a big

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moaner, but I haven't smelt 
them. 

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Oh, the next time you play 
football, smell. 

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Smell them. 
Yeah. 

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Umm, right. 
I've so many like behind the 

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scenes type questions to ask you
about the traders because it's 

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obviously so well put together 
as a show. 

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But before I do that, how did 
you find out you were going on 

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it? 
I was sitting in work and I knew

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I was going to get a phone call 
at some point that week. 

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It's not the worst. 
Yeah, when you just tell me 

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we're going to just. 
Tell me yes or no? 

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No, I obviously manifested my 
way onto the show, knew I was 

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going to get on, knew I was 
going to win. 

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So this was just, this is going 
to happen. 

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And then I was sitting and the 
phone went and it was the girl 

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that I'd been dealing with the 
whole way through and she just 

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is just wanted to give you a 
call and listen. 

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And when she went listen. 
And I was like, no, no, no, 

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don't choose all listen. 
You're going to have to go and 

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pack your bags. 
And then I just, I got off the 

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call and I just remember I was 
in a wee wheelie church and like

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a wee computer chair and just 
remember swinging around. 

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There was no one there. 
And I swung around. 

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I was like, shit, I'm going to. 
Yeah. 

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And I was like, I couldn't 
celebrate. 

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But it was also shaken with 
excitement. 

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And then? 
Can you? 

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Did you even tell people you'd 
applied? 

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No, the lady that I work with 
that told me I should apply. 

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I says I applied for the crack 
and didn't get. 

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Right. 
And then just mysteriously 

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disappeared for three weeks. 
But. 

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What did you tell people were 
going for three weeks? 

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I told them I was doing a social
media experiment with Channel 5 

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because I needed it to be not 
BBC One. 

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Not kind of, you know, but also 
a reason for leaving. 

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And no one would really know 
when he won a Channel 5, do you 

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know what I mean? 
No, and nobody would expect 

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anything from Channel 5. 
Maybe don't put that in just in 

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case I get a contract with. 
Channel 5, just to hit you with 

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a massive offer. 
Umm, so yeah, it had to be. 

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So I told different lies to 
different groups of people. 

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That's so dangerous. 
Totally. 

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But I was hoping they wouldn't 
talk to each other. 

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So I told my family. 
My son, my sister knew where I 

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was going because she obviously,
you know, was helping mind the 

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kids. 
She knew you were doing traders.

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She knew I was doing the show. 
Did she struggle keeping that? 

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No, and she could struggle to 
keep her water, so she kept that

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one because she knew I told her 
she'd be fine, £500,000 or 

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something. 
But then I told my siblings I 

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was doing a social media 
experiment so I'd have no phone 

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and a reason to leave the kids, 
that they'd be a prize at the 

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end of all this kind of crack. 
And then I told my kids that I 

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was going off to do a course for
work that would help me with my 

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future. 
So I was trying not to lie to 

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them as much. 
But also mommy has to go. 

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And they were like, well mommy, 
you're really clever. 

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So hopefully you finish the 
course early and come home and 

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I'm going. 
I wanted to go the other way, 

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you know, I want to stay a bit 
longer. 

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But yeah, I had to tell a few 
different lies and somebody 

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thought I was in therapy or, 
sorry, in rehab. 

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So my husband, who's a bit of a 
gob shake, I love him, loving 

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the bits. 
But he was at the sidelines of a

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football game and happened to 
say to someone, there are good 

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words. 
Rachel, we haven't seen her 

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because I go to the all the 
matches and they're like, oh, 

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she's and he panicked. 
She's in England doing an 

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experiment and she's no phone. 
And you know, we kind of tripped

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over his words and stuff. 
So then my friends, friends with

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whatever and she says here, 
somebody thought you were in 

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rehab over the summer because 
you were addicted to your phone 

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and social media. 
That's why you don't tell 

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anybody anything. 
Yeah. 

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Did you ever have them? 
Did anyone guess it? 

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Did anyone say like, you're not 
doing the traitor? 

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Are you as a joke or anything 
like that? 

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Darren, my brother, so when I 
come out of the Channel 5 

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experiment, got my phone back 
and I was like, hi folks, still 

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alive, just got my phone back 
and it was all the messages. 

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She did this. 
So the messages were she's done,

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the traders, Love Island, a 
couple of different reality ones

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and I had to come out and do a 
video. 

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Your husband would be raging if 
you did Love Island. 

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I don't think you'd be happy. 
No, no. 

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Can I just go off to? 
What do you call? 

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That phone call with a partner 
like. 

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Yeah, Casa more. 
Casa More. 

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No. 
So I remember having and I did a

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video and I was like, listen, 
folks will use just chill. 

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I'll be able to tell you 
whenever, you know, I can 

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announce it. 
Just for the record, I haven't 

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done the traders. 
I haven't done the love. 

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You know, I haven't done all 
this here. 

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And then I was like, hopefully 
that's the last lie that I'd 

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have to tell them. 
Yeah, but he did. 

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But then he went off the scent 
because he loves the show, 

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right? 
And then I went up to their 

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house on New Year's Eve with the
traders top. 

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And then I told everybody. 
And. 

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Brilliant. 
Before it aired. 

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Yeah, it was coming out the next
day. 

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00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:09,240
Oh, how did everybody react? 
The thought it was AI. 

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So the announcement, oh, the 
announcement when I told them in

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person because everybody when I 
posted on social media thought 

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it was AI. 
So the right master going is 

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this real? 
Is this real? 

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So I had a traders top and I was
like revealing it. 

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It was like flasher going into 
everyone's house going. 

402
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But it was only for my immediate
family before it came out. 

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And yeah, there was no, no, 
you're not. 

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I'll stop. 
You're a white because I would 

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wind people up all the time. 
So some of them didn't believe 

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me. 
And then I have a very vocal 

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sister-in-law who just went 
mute. 

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And then our Darren was all, oh,
what have you done? 

409
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Right? 
Oh, because it's his like, his 

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favourite show. 
And then he was like, oh God, 

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please don't tell me you're 
involved in any drama. 

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00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,240
But no, no bad real bad drama. 
No, but you look at any big 

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drama in that castle, I was in 
the middle of it. 

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Yeah, yeah, just a lot of vocal 
women. 

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00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:11,120
Now, how, as a fan of the show, 
going into it, what did you 

416
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notice was different than what 
you thought? 

417
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,960
Like when you went in, did you 
go? 

418
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760
We're filming more than I 
thought we would, or less or. 

419
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It was less staged than I 
thought it was going to be. 

420
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Do you know? 
I thought they'd have to go. 

421
00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,360
We'll set up here. 
We'll do this. 

422
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,160
You're literally it almost had 
like a Big Brother did. 

423
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,840
You have loads of cameras. 
Fail. 

424
00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,000
Yeah. 
So there was fixed cameras, and 

425
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then sometimes there were like, 
you know, free roaming camera 

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people. 
But from the minute you arrived,

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like, nothing was set up, 
nothing was staged, and you're 

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free to roam around and 
everything's just organic. 

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And you're like, this is 
dangerous because you've so much

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time to be under scrutiny. 
Because in my head they're going

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go and have a conversation here 
with this person about that. 

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No, that would have been totally
easier. 

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It was the fact that anyone at 
any point can we have a we chat 

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or it was just dangerous. 
Then when groups gathered or 

435
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because a lot of people are like
that thing with Fiona had to be 

436
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,480
staged. 
I'm like I'm telling you now 

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00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,160
that was she just went rogue. 
So the whole thing, I think that

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was the biggest apart from being
in the castle going. 

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00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,920
I'm standing in the middle of 
Traders castle and the round 

440
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,240
table and the rooms and all they
were. 

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00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,760
Just you get the chat to 
Claudia, she comes in and does 

442
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her bit and then leaves. 
But I decided that do you 

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actually give the chat to her? 
Not really, no. 

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She plays her part and then she 
goes. 

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But I do remember one of the 
days doing a mission and Jesse 

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said I stood beside Claudia. 
I can't believe it. 

447
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,440
I'm like I beside her last night
in the turret. 

448
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,720
Do you know what you're God I've
got? 

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00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,160
So we got a little bit more time
with her, but she was very much,

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she'll come in and she'll do her
bit and she left and then we got

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those little gold chats at the 
start and at the end you got a 

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little bit more time with her. 
And then obviously when we won, 

453
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,000
me and Steve were with her and 
she was crying and stuff and 

454
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,640
she's class. 
See, I I really like Steven's 

455
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,920
clothes and I love to have some 
of them, but only were like I 

456
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,000
don't even, I think I just wear 
them in the house. 

457
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:03,800
Oh, do you want me to? 
I would see apart from the big 

458
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,880
mad collar stuff, yeah, I'd like
some of his gear He's thrown out

459
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,360
OK if he's doing like a gotten 
out of his clothes. 

460
00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,760
He's doing, Yeah, he's doing. 
He's put something invented if 

461
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,360
you want to go on and do EBID. 
Does he? 

462
00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,800
Yeah. 
Because I did a big clear out 

463
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,960
and then but I just gave it to 
like, in fact, see that guy over

464
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,600
there? 
Yeah, he's wearing T-shirt and 

465
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,600
tracksuit bottoms of mine right 
now. 

466
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,200
I see. 
Yeah, sustainable fashion, isn't

467
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,760
it? 
Exactly. 

468
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,840
Yeah. 
I'll tell. 

469
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320
I'll tell Stephen that you're a 
fan of his clothes. 

470
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040
Gear. 
Yeah, Gear Zippers. 

471
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,640
This episode of the TV With Me 
podcast is sponsored by none 

472
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,320
other than Delhi Light. 
Normally for odd read, they give

473
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,280
me a page up and they go, will 
you say this? 

474
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,960
Will you say that? 
See Delhi Light? 

475
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,880
Let me just talk from the heart 
and not the page. 

476
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,880
All right? 
Deli Light is a company in the 

477
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,120
heart of County Down at the foot
of the more. 

478
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,560
What's that? 
See if you'd be at the foot of 

479
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,760
the more mountains you go. 
What's that smell? 

480
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,920
What's that delicious gourmet 
smell? 

481
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,760
It's probably coming from Deli 
Lights. 

482
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,800
Deli Lights, do sandwiches, 
wraps, things that you would 

483
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,200
bring into work and have in the 
office, things you might have on

484
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,400
the go, but they're not hastily 
put together. 

485
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,480
They're not. 
There you go. 

486
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,480
There's hardly anything in this.
She died. 

487
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:20,040
I'd still be packed, be packed 
with great juicy, lovely food. 

488
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,280
It's made properly like and it's
busting out of the seams with 

489
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,920
big big chicken pika things. 
Or what is there done? 

490
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,480
Barbecue chicken. 
Barbecue. 

491
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,120
I love BBQ chicken. 
They've got the Classics range, 

492
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,840
the Gourmet range and the Deli 
Plush range when you want extra 

493
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,520
fuel. 
And you're trying people these 

494
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,840
days upset I will need to hit my
protein targets. 

495
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,120
Deli light. 
It is actually a bit sad and I 

496
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,840
do actually feel bad for 
competitors. 

497
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,840
When you walk in they're like 
cooler fridges and like you 

498
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,160
know, all local garages, service
stations, supermarkets and you 

499
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,480
see all the we Own brand stuff 
and then you see the deli light 

500
00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,520
stuff going available 
everywhere, Boots, spars. 

501
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,520
Sainsbury's Sainsbury's super 
value. 

502
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,080
Super value, Even the big, even 
the big Tesco's deli lights, 

503
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,960
folks, deli lights. 
There is actually a store by the

504
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,280
way, in warm in Newry itself. 
I didn't know that you blew my 

505
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,440
mind last week. 
We drove past it. 

506
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,760
They actually have a cafe type 
thing. 

507
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,120
You can sit in there and deli 
lights. 

508
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,880
Did you did you have any moments
in the series that you went? 

509
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,480
How did that not make it on the 
TV? 

510
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,600
Do you know what I mean? 
Like whether it was an argument 

511
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720
or a thing, we I can't wait to 
see that. 

512
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,800
And then that actually wasn't 
on. 

513
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,680
I thought maybe the part where I
told him I was a foot model on 

514
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,440
the first day I was going to 
make it in because their faces 

515
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,720
were priceless. 
Like it would have set it up 

516
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,080
that you knew maybe they didn't 
do it because you would have 

517
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,760
known straight away that there 
were so many gullible people 

518
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040
standing around that bar. 
But that got a big giggle. 

519
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:56,080
And the rest of it, no, all the 
good stuff made it in. 

520
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Maybe apart from Jack vomiting 
when he got off the carousel. 

521
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,320
Did he? 
I think he was fair. 

522
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,960
He had to walk. 
He had to walk back to the 

523
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,200
castle. 
He couldn't get in the car. 

524
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,120
That was brutal, that challenge.
See. 

525
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,720
Oh yeah. 
And all the challenges are you, 

526
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920
are they actually physically 
like difficult? 

527
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,120
Yeah. 
Or is it right? 

528
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840
So they are how they appear. 
It's not like they're going 

529
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,800
we'll get a shot he's doing 
this, but you're not actually 

530
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,000
doing that. 
No right, not one bit, because 

531
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,680
you know that this skull 
stacking challenge you to do 10 

532
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,280
skulls and release people from a
gauge. 

533
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,120
Roxy knocked me on my arse like 
she she's so competitive right. 

534
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,080
So we took off run and she 
knocked me down. 

535
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,760
We were wrestling in the river 
and I said give me the frigging 

536
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,600
skull. 
She get your own like I mean we 

537
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,160
were it was held for leather yes
and you were running around the 

538
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,720
place like a blue horse fly. 
Umm no, every every single thing

539
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,080
that you've seen. 
That's what I loved about the 

540
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,000
show. 
It was very the edit was very 

541
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,520
true to what we did right? 
Umm, right down to the last 

542
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600
mission where I thought it or 
even the fire issue of the 

543
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,480
mountain run. 
Yes, I thought it was going to 

544
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,000
vomit right. 
It was tough. 

545
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,200
See the when you were saying 
about the FBI training you did, 

546
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,680
did you do that in Zoom? 
Umm no, it was a wee online 

547
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,960
portal. 
Seriously. 

548
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,640
Yeah. 
I, I, I'm very good at 

549
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,080
manipulating the truth when 
there's an element, you know, I 

550
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,560
can kind of, I need to have a 
base of, there's a little bit of

551
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,880
a structure here and then I can 
go off in a tangent. 

552
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920
So I did do that. 
But that also helped me realise 

553
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,080
that Amanda was a police 
officer. 

554
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600
Right. 
I could tell from the first 

555
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,480
night. 
She I really liked her on the 

556
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,920
show and you obviously are 
really good friendly with her, 

557
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,880
but it's mad how people get 
something in their head and just

558
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,520
run with it as in and like 
people are people so easily go. 

559
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680
I know they're a traitor when 
they're not and it just takes I 

560
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,080
guess you're you don't have much
to go on. 

561
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,280
So when you do find something, 
you cling on. 

562
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,640
You focus on that massively. 
But I thought you a bit that 

563
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,880
like broke my heart in a finale 
was I'm going to say his name 

564
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,120
wrong. 
Mawas for us. 

565
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,920
For us, yeah. 
Close. 

566
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,080
You you you fairly led him up a 
garden path like. 

567
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080
That's the name of the game you.
Just kept being like, I think 

568
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,680
it's him. 
And then he's like, yeah, I was 

569
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,240
thinking that. 
And I was like, I don't think 

570
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,120
you were. 
You just made a compelling case.

571
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,760
Yeah. 
Yeah, because we so we got to 

572
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,840
watch. 
No, because no I didn't. 

573
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,880
And if you look like I had a 
murder board, right? 

574
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,520
So in my bedroom I had a murder 
board that was colour coded, 

575
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,280
right? 
And he was marked from day two 

576
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,200
in A Wee Blue Star as my end. 
Don't mind mummy's colour coded 

577
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,680
murder board. 
That's just mummy's murder 

578
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,000
board. 
Kids weren't there, they 

579
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,400
couldn't see it, but I knew. 
Back in your accommodation. 

580
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,600
Yeah, yeah. 
So I had a addict. 

581
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,640
With like red string we pins on 
it now. 

582
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080
I had no string, but I had all, 
you know, the little cue cards 

583
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,640
that you'd study for speech 
cards, yes. 

584
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,440
So they were all up above the 
bed. 

585
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,720
There was a colour code, there 
was notes and all of that 

586
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,400
because I was trying to figure 
out secret relationships, The 

587
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,240
secret trader, my end game. 
And Faz was marked as my end 

588
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,520
game and dead too, because he 
kept saying it's only a game, 

589
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,360
it's only a game. 
Why? 

590
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:57,880
Why is everybody getting out? 
It's only a game. 

591
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,840
And I thought I can manipulate 
the life out of you because it's

592
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,920
only a game. 
You're 22. 

593
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320
It's a game. 
And that's why I killed Roxy 

594
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,720
because it was very, you know, 
emotional for her. 

595
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,480
And I thought, right, if I get 
rid of, that's easier to do than

596
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,160
taking you to the end and lying 
to your face. 

597
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,680
But the morning I told him about
my strategy and what I was doing

598
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,600
me, we had the finalists had 
watched the show before it went 

599
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,080
out just so that we could see it
and we could come to terms with 

600
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,360
who pulled the wool over his 
eyes and I had said. 

601
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,080
Jade clenches her jaw. 
Here. 

602
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,880
And I? 
Can see it. 

603
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,120
And he him sitting on the other 
side. 

604
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,640
I know. 
I know and I can see it. 

605
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,720
And Jade says oh, well, I 
because that's because I broke 

606
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,440
my door. 
She said something and I said, 

607
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,240
Jade, I was taking the piss. 
Your jaw wasn't doing anything. 

608
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,920
And the two of them just looked 
at each other like bitch. 

609
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,800
Umm. 
So yeah, I knew you. 

610
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,320
Were watching that together. 
Are people really animated? 

611
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,920
Like, are you just watching it 
in silence? 

612
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,360
Like we watched it, there was 
lots of tears and it was, it 

613
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,240
was, I think it was very 
emotional because then you 

614
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,760
realise this is 6 months ago. 
We've all held us in for six 

615
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,640
months. 
Like, I love them the bets. 

616
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,480
So there was like the final 
five. 

617
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,720
There was no hard feelings with 
lots of slagging. 

618
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,080
Yeah, you know, but it wasn't It
was a nice experience. 

619
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,520
And then Claudia called in to 
see us. 

620
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,400
So Claudia called in to see us. 
And I was like, oh, my God. 

621
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,800
Like totally fangirl in the way 
my sister was fangirling over 

622
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,640
you there. 
When she first came in, she knew

623
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,560
who you were. 
And I was on the phone to my 

624
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,800
sister and I said to Claudia, 
I'm really sorry. 

625
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,560
I'm trying to FaceTime my sister
here. 

626
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,320
And she says call her. 
And I was like, she's going to 

627
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680
wet herself. 
So I rang my sister and the next

628
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,080
I think Claudia comes on the 
phone. 

629
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Sister when covers her head. 
She's like I have no makeup. 

630
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,680
Oh, Claudia, don't. 
Like. 

631
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,760
So Claudia was chatting away to 
her and having the crack and 

632
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040
that was before it all come out.
And then whenever we won and we 

633
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320
had a celebration event, I had 
asked Claudia would she do we 

634
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,120
message? 
And she came back. 

635
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,480
She's like, I loved hearing all 
about your family and 

636
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,240
congratulations. 
I loved meeting your sister 

637
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,680
before she knew you won. 
And so that was that lovely 

638
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,120
little moment before the world 
knew what happened and it was 

639
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:01,800
just our wee bubble. 
Umm. 

640
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,000
But yeah, it was my. 
I felt bad for. 

641
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,200
Jade the whole show. 
Don't. 

642
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320
But everybody was just like, and
I totally understand it's a 

643
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320
game, but everyone's so slight. 
Everyone say it's for it's 

644
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,520
fucking you. 
Jade one episode in and then she

645
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
just sat there like, yeah. 
And she looked so much younger 

646
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,480
than everyone. 
She was like, she always just 

647
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,400
looks sad. 
And I remember being like, 

648
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,080
please just get her off because 
she's not having a good time. 

649
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:27,880
But you know what I like? 
I love her and she's so clever. 

650
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,080
And it was the fact back then, 
the bit by bit, she started to 

651
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,560
stick up. 
First off, yeah. 

652
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,480
And then she come out and you. 
Know more about her story too? 

653
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Yeah, but she come out at one of
the round tables and she held 

654
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,320
her own and she was really 
feisty. 

655
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120
And afterwards, even though I'm 
in the opposite team, I was 

656
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,560
like, well done, I says, good 
girl, you know? 

657
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120
And then at the end, yeah, 
stabbing her in the back. 

658
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,760
But yeah. 
It's a game. 

659
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Yeah, and what about the Welsh 
woman? 

660
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,360
Fiona Fifi, Auntie Fifi. 
My kids call her Auntie Fiona. 

661
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,120
Right. 
They love her. 

662
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,080
Because you, it seemed like you 
guys were arguing him like, but 

663
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,240
you just had to. 
I know that's part of the 

664
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,600
showdown type element of it. 
Yeah, did you see any of the 

665
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,280
memes of me drop kicking her and
the fights and stuff and the 

666
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,920
turret and I'm like, that's 
awful because at the time I 

667
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960
thought you wee witch. 
But she kept going. 

668
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,640
I know all that. 
She goes, My husband and my 

669
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,960
brother are policemen. 
And I was like, my dad's a 

670
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,480
mechanic. 
I can't change your brake pads. 

671
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,000
Yeah, you know. 
She shot herself in the foot, 

672
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,880
she moved too soon but I had her
pinned as a secret traitor. 

673
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,720
So when she come in and 
obviously she's like 3 foot 

674
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,600
smaller than us. 
Like straight away I knew who it

675
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400
was and she dropped the cloak 
and it was the we twinkle in her

676
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,120
eye and she was all you're 
playing a blinder reach. 

677
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
And I was like I'm fucked here 
she's going to come for me. 

678
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,080
So I knew she was going to make 
a move. 

679
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400
She just did it a day earlier 
than what I expected and thank 

680
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880
God it backfired. 
But that night it will go down 

681
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,280
as one of my favourite nights in
the castle. 

682
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,440
Like we were running around 
piling. 

683
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400
It was hilarious. 
Yeah, because, because she was 

684
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
so like cheeky about it. 
She loved it being a secret 

685
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,800
trader. 
She did because I said then the 

686
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,200
next day, because you're always 
conscious of God, it's very 

687
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,720
dramatic. 
And when you're in the game, 

688
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,720
you're in the game, you have no 
contact with the outside world 

689
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160
and it is your whole, like life 
at that time. 

690
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,320
And afterwards when she left, I 
was like, is she OK? 

691
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,920
And they're like, she's counting
the beads on her necklace as her

692
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,720
victims in her interview the 
next day, she's fine. 

693
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,120
I was like. 
Yeah, You were talking about 

694
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520
like, he's had that bubble 
before, like people knew about 

695
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,560
it. 
Then when everyone finds out 

696
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,960
about it, it was that, like, 
overwhelming at all? 

697
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,240
Yeah. 
It was a lot because it went 

698
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,240
from the first couple of weeks 
that I was still at home. 

699
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,880
People didn't know how you get 
on. 

700
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,800
There was a couple of comments 
gone, all here. 

701
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,240
I hope she doesn't embarrass the
country. 

702
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920
And you know, there's like smart
art comments that you're well 

703
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200
used to. 
And then when you went over to 

704
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,280
England and like, paparazzi, you
come out of the final and 

705
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,520
paparazzi right there and I'm 
going, I barely like a selfie 

706
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,040
and there's paparazzi out here, 
you know? 

707
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,600
So it was just a whole different
world. 

708
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,000
But New Newry seemed like fairly
behind you from the start. 

709
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Even when you've got announcers 
being on it, Any comments I saw 

710
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,280
where everybody is like right 
behind you. 

711
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Newry's class and it's just 
slagging and like, yeah, that's 

712
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,760
the banter we kind of grew up 
with. 

713
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880
So I loved it. 
Our local community is amazing. 

714
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,640
It was really, really good. 
It was just strange. 

715
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,480
Then. 
It's almost like it's like the 

716
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240
big fish in the little pond and 
then you go out and then you go 

717
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,560
over the cross the water and 
you're like, holy shit, people 

718
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,760
chasing you down the street and 
asking for your autograph and 

719
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,040
it's just. 
Was that weird? 

720
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,880
The first person who came up to 
you being like, can I get a 

721
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,480
photo or Yeah. 
And I was like, why? 

722
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,600
We love you? 
And I'm like, oh, God, I'm 

723
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,560
mortified here. 
So it's still, yeah, it's a lot 

724
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720
to get used to. 
And even when people ask me for 

725
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520
an autograph, I'm like, you're 
having a laugh. 

726
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,960
Was there anyone cool like on 
Instagram or anything you had a 

727
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,120
follow by anyone like in the 
early days of it where you went 

728
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,520
look at this like Peter Andre or
someone that's just an example. 

729
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,400
How did you know I loved him? 
Peter, I was. 

730
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,920
Saying for curtains, umm, 
Allison Hammond, I think she's 

731
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
like hilarious. 
So when she when she started 

732
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,600
following me, I like I 
screenshot it and I sent it to 

733
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040
our once and I think, Oh my God.
I remember getting a fall back 

734
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,040
and they for me, I'm at Holmes 
and I knew had a heart attack. 

735
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,840
That's just like life is made at
that point. 

736
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,720
He hasn't followed me. 
Has he not? 

737
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,120
No. 
Allison Hammond's a good one, 

738
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,440
though. 
Yeah, I liked her. 

739
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,800
And then obviously since we've 
come out and we've done a couple

740
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800
of events and we've met people, 
then you have like Alan Carr, I 

741
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,640
think has followed me back. 
But I I just one of the days I 

742
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,440
says I'm going to message him 
for the crack who's driving down

743
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,320
the road with Joe. 
And I says I'm going to message 

744
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,040
him and say, you know, does he 
know who he AM? 

745
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,280
And I was like, well, traitor 
winner from one traitor winner 

746
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,920
to another. 
How cheesy is this? 

747
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,840
What's the cracker? 
How, you know, whatever how he 

748
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,280
did, he messaged me back and I'm
like, Holly Carr messaged me 

749
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,640
back and he's like, we're 
obsessed with your season. 

750
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880
You were great and all that. 
So yeah, people have been really

751
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,600
lovely. 
But it's weird when you're at an

752
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,800
event and a famous person comes 
up, I have to get a selfie and 

753
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,120
I'm like. 
Yes. 

754
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,880
Holy shit, was there anyone that
stands out? 

755
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Holly, Holly Willoughby, right. 
We're at an event and she was 

756
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,480
there and I'd sit with Jade and 
because we're besties now and I 

757
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,760
had says to her, umm, oh Jade, 
they're away. 

758
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,160
I says we didn't get a chance to
see them. 

759
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160
And then all you could hear was 
girls. 

760
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Oh my God, I have to get a 
picture. 

761
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,920
And we turned around and I'm 
like, no, no, we've to get a 

762
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,000
picture of you. 
She's like, no, I'm obsessed 

763
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,440
with you. 
And you're like, how does that 

764
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,640
happen? 
What did your what was your kids

765
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,600
first reaction when they when 
they watched the show? 

766
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Well, my oldest boy, he loved 
it. 

767
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,320
So we. 
Say he's 12. 

768
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,480
He's coming 12 now. 
He had known what the show was. 

769
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,000
Yeah, yeah. 
So we had watched, we had 

770
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,960
watched Season 3 together and we
watched the celebrity one 

771
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,880
together. 
And so then we all started 

772
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,920
watching together and they 
thought like, Mommy's pretty 

773
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,040
cool doing, you know, all the 
different challenges and stuff. 

774
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,440
The thought I was classed in the
dam and the helicopter. 

775
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,080
But they loved for us more than 
they loved me in the show, yeah.

776
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,720
They're just heartbreaking 
moment when mommy killed for us.

777
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Well, good job. 
I was in. 

778
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,360
I was in London, right? 
So I didn't get to see their 

779
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,000
reaction. 
So I don't know what their 

780
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,160
reaction. 
I think they were all right when

781
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,680
their mommy won a bit of money, 
but yeah. 

782
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,760
I thought even though it seemed 
like a load of different series 

783
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,640
of it, I thought when it came 
down to you and Stephen, I 

784
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,960
thought yous got the chance to 
do a thing where it's like, do 

785
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,120
we both agree to split the money
or can 1 of yous almost do a 

786
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,760
steal? 
So I was waiting for that 

787
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,240
moment. 
I didn't know that when it just 

788
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,720
comes down to the final two, 
that's it. 

789
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,840
That's a different game show. 
Now let me ask you this. 

790
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Maybe I'm thinking of deal or no
deal, but let me ask you this 

791
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,960
said just came down to you 2 
Yeah. 

792
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,880
And they go new rules. 
I'm Claudy. 

793
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,520
You're twisted. 
Right, they go. 

794
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,480
I keep doing this. 
I assume hosting a game. 

795
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,320
Sure. 
You just do this, right? 

796
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480
It's June, Stephen. 
Yeah, I go back in your mind, 

797
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,520
right? 
In fact, I'll just be me. 

798
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,600
I don't want to do. 
I love. 

799
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,159
I just. 
I'll be me, right? 

800
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,639
OK. 
I just walk in to the set, 

801
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,000
right? 
And I go. 

802
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,159
You have a chance now. 
What was the price? 

803
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:44,400
95 grand. 95 grand. 
Do you guys want to split it or 

804
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,400
do you want to chance the steal?
And if you both say split, then 

805
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,639
you split it. 
Yeah, if one of your shows you 

806
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,560
get it. 
Yeah, right. 

807
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,560
What would you have? 
What would you have done? 

808
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,679
I would have split it. 
But you just send that. 

809
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,920
No, no, I'm not because I think,
I think when you realise that 

810
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,920
both of us deserve that, yeah, 
you know, I had a stronger start

811
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,160
game, he had a stronger end 
game. 

812
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,080
We both worked our asses off to 
get there. 

813
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,880
So credit where credit's due and
like, I am competitive, hate 

814
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,000
losing, but there comes a line 
when you do the right thing. 

815
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,320
Yeah. 
So a lot of people said, oh, we 

816
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640
bet I do. 
The comments on social media 

817
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,560
that you say you're not going to
read and then you do read. 

818
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,320
And it was all oh, she's cold 
hearted bitch and whatever she'd

819
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,480
throw him on the I'm sorry. 
But that by the way, I just I've

820
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,640
had a way I. 
Know you know what, but I 

821
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,160
reported you so you know we're 
all good. 

822
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,440
You can comment again in 30 
days. 

823
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,840
But he umm, yes, so they're all 
since she would have got rid of 

824
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,400
him and all this here and he 
shouldn't have done that. 

825
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
It was his money to have. 
And I'm like actually know the 

826
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,000
whole way through minute that 
was made, I never ever said I'd 

827
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,600
break up. 
I think you also dragged him 

828
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,400
over the finish line a wee bit 
because he was faltering. 

829
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,360
He was, he was having a week. 
The crisis of confidence. 

830
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,800
He but it was his, it was his 
day. 

831
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,520
You know, he had the 95,000 in 
the bag. 

832
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,400
So at the very end, yes, because
at one point I remember 

833
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
something my husband says. 
You're so bloody bossy where 

834
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,520
we've got we've. 
Got like don't lose your head. 

835
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,240
Yeah, we got Jade I and we went 
in and I was like fast Jack, 

836
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,880
let's do this. 
And he's like OK and I but like 

837
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,280
my my he. 
Was going on. 

838
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,760
He was hitting me. 
Redner, Yeah. 

839
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,680
God love from lovely we and 
then. 

840
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,280
You said at the end you go as a 
you said. 

841
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,400
As I was a faithful, if I was a 
faithful, I can't even 

842
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,760
understand. 
No one picked up on that. 

843
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080
No, but I'm watching at home on 
how are they not all going? 

844
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,040
Well, there you go. 
Yeah, because a lot of people 

845
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,360
had little slip UPS throughout, 
you know. 

846
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,280
And then I used to go about the 
castle going, yeah, I am a 

847
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,440
traitor, you know, so I use my 
sarcasm either way, the hide 

848
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,680
slip UPS. 
But at that moment I corrected 

849
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,600
myself quite quickly. 
But even when we were watching 

850
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,640
it, Stephen turned around and 
goes, you stupid bitch, I said, 

851
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,600
well, you didn't pick up. 
And he said no, I didn't notice 

852
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,360
it at the time. 
But yeah, it was. 

853
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,720
It was a hard one where I had on
my murder board from episode 7 

854
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:55,440
who I wanted to banish and kill 
from then worked out a charm. 

855
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,800
So I knew I had the strategy to 
a tee. 

856
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,160
So I just needed to remind him 
that we had the same plan 

857
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,960
because he kept saying, like he 
says, I watched July for three 

858
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,880
weeks like brilliantly to other 
people. 

859
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,480
So of course you're going to do 
it to me. 

860
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Do. 
You still have the murder board.

861
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,280
I still have all the elements of
the murder board. 

862
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,600
That's the. 
Most terrifying sentence 

863
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960
anyone's ever said. 
Yeah, they'd like to know the 

864
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,000
usual suspects, Yes, there's 
just So I'd be sitting drinking 

865
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,760
a coffee in the morning, going 
if I murder you, if I move this 

866
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,440
chess piece or whatever. 
And the guy Maddie from here as 

867
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,880
well, Yeah, he I was mad having 
two people because you always, 

868
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,440
sometimes you get one person 
from home on a show like that 

869
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,200
and you're buzzing. 
You're somebody from home, but 

870
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,280
two people. 
And he, so I really liked him as

871
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,520
well. 
And then I followed him on 

872
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,240
Instagram. 
He does a lot of naked stuff, 

873
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,000
yes, doesn't he? 
Well, if you have an arse. 

874
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,720
Like that I get to also crack an
arse. 

875
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,000
Brilliant, but. 
Crack an arse so. 

876
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,480
You like Maddie's bum? 
You're going to sniff Jason 

877
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,280
Mcateer the next time you see 
him if you like all. 

878
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Together clothes. 
It's not good. 

879
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Yeah, but no, it's giving you a 
nice wee brand image. 

880
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,000
But Maddie's always out in the 
wild, didn't he? 

881
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,960
Just getting the arse out. 
Yeah, he loves that, don't they?

882
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,840
He loves it, but you know, and 
he's going to come over here and

883
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,080
we're going to go on a wee hike.
We must take you with us and 

884
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,200
well. 
Actually, I'm not bringing any 

885
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:08,160
clothes. 
Runny nose. 

886
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,080
But he, yeah, yeah, he. 
But he was he. 

887
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,760
I think he was really good too. 
But I think he maybe not 

888
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,760
overthought because I know you 
can't. 

889
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,880
But no, you can. 
And he got his own way a bit, 

890
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,640
didn't he? 
Yeah, but you know, when we were

891
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,640
on the tree and on the way to 
the castle and I heard his axe 

892
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,800
and I thought, oh fuck, I was 
raging. 

893
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,640
And not that I wanted to be the 
only, you know, person from 

894
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,920
Ireland in the show, I thought 
it's going to raise suspicious, 

895
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,760
suspicious behaviour or whatever
suspicions people think we're 

896
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,600
related or we know each. 
Other. 

897
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,080
And all I could hear was, yeah, 
I work in marketing. 

898
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,760
I was like, for God's sakes, I 
work in marketing. 

899
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960
So when we got out of the the 
train and I seen him and I was 

900
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,240
like, brilliant, I don't know 
him. 

901
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,280
And then Nettie and Ross knew 
each other and I was like, that 

902
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,400
was the exact reason why I 
didn't want to know him. 

903
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,120
And we kept saying to each other
in the show, God, we must, we 

904
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,800
must get a wee chat. 
We must see each other and 

905
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,280
whatever because you're so busy.
And then for a few days we 

906
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,760
didn't get a chat. 
And then he says people are 

907
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,760
going to think that we're 
actually avoiding each other, 

908
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,200
right? 
And I'm like, well, then come 

909
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,600
and sit beside me and have a 
chat. 

910
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Umm, but, uh, he was brilliant. 
I loved him, but he did because 

911
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,720
you you can overthink things in 
there. 

912
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,560
He wanted to be a traitor, and 
he wanted them to. 

913
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Seduce. 
Yeah. 

914
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,800
So the crack after the show was,
can't believe you didn't, you 

915
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,800
didn't recruit me and I'm like, 
sorry, not sorry. 

916
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,760
Well, he was going to throw me 
under the bus after he was 

917
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,760
recruited. 
So yeah, it worked out in my 

918
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,960
favour. 
Umm was there? 

919
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,160
Did it ever get? 
What was the most tense moment 

920
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,120
you had in there? 
Confessional, right? 

921
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,040
I actually nearly wept myself on
the floor. 

922
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,040
Jesus Christ, that was 
horrendous. 

923
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,120
Because if you think you're 
watching the show and there's 

924
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,320
background music, we're in the 
dead of the night in a church, 

925
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,160
and all you can hear is the fire
crackling and you hear Harriet's

926
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,680
boots. 
Clump, clump, clump. 

927
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,400
Rachel, I know you're in there. 
And I'm like, I just don't want 

928
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000
to go home. 
I actually thought at that part 

929
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,560
and I said so. 
Here's why I would have slept 

930
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,160
up. 
I would have went. 

931
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,080
I'm not. 
I'd be. 

932
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,640
I'd be an awful. 
Trader Yeah, don't do the 

933
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,400
celebrity version. 
Well, we did. 

934
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,080
I don't think it'll help me. 
I don't think we have that 

935
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,680
profile. 
But if you're playing for Near 

936
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,840
East City, the might. 
Yeah, I we did a thing like we 

937
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,920
do like a lie. 
A comedy club does like a live 

938
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,400
thing that I'm not saying 
they're ripping off the traders,

939
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,320
but it's called Touts and it's 
very similar. 

940
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,800
And I played it like last year 
and I'd never seen the show and 

941
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,400
I was awful at it because I was 
a faithful. 

942
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,640
But I thought you were supposed 
to make yourself seem like 

943
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,360
you're a traitor, right. 
So I was no good at it. 

944
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480
But I mean, I got to the last 
three and then I sort of fucked 

945
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000
it for us. 
And then we did it about three 

946
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,400
months ago and the the totes had
never tried the faithfuls and 

947
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,600
never won. 
The totes always won. 

948
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,160
And then me and my mate, they 
have won. 

949
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,840
And it came down to I had to 
choose between him, Teresa 

950
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,240
Livingston, a friend of ours and
the tension I felt. 

951
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,840
And I'd be very like relaxed on 
stage, but doing something like 

952
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,640
that where like you're worried 
about what way you're coming 

953
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,440
across your friends. 
I'm like, is he lying to me? 

954
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,760
And the the wait for the reveal,
I've never felt anything like 

955
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,040
it. 
And we're just playing like a 

956
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,880
small low key version of it and 
of. 

957
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,400
People, it does. 
It's it's such a cliche, but 

958
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,600
your cloak gets heavier every 
day and you're going, my God, 

959
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,080
this is hard. 
And you can actually, if you 

960
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,200
watch the final back whenever he
turned, whenever Stephen turned 

961
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,640
the board over and it said Jack.
The way he did it. 

962
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,240
But my shoulders just, I 
actually, I felt like I was just

963
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,960
a stone lighter and I just 
remember going thank God and it 

964
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,520
was just done. 
And then there are like. 

965
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,400
But he made it seem like he 
maybe was going to betray you a 

966
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,840
bit. 
Like the way his face and all. 

967
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,880
He wouldn't look at me and 
that's what he says to him 

968
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,200
afterwards. 
I said you wouldn't look at me 

969
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,360
and he says, well, you're kind 
of scary when you stare at 

970
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,320
people. 
But we had we had made eye 

971
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,760
contact when we were voting out 
Faz. 

972
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,640
So we'd looked at each other and
just went like this here. 

973
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,160
So I no, he's a wee don't love 
him, but it's. 

974
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,160
When he worked it all out. 
It is like usual suspects when 

975
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,920
the cop looks at the board 
behind Kevin Spacey and he goes 

976
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,840
all right, Faz goes and they go 
ah. 

977
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,760
It was about Grandma done me the
little shit. 

978
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Umm, So he, yeah, when Stephen 
turned it over and I, but I, I 

979
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680
was watching him write it as 
well, and I could see him doing 

980
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,520
this on the board. 
And I thought he was writing an 

981
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,440
L and I just thought, you're 
dead when we get out of here, 

982
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,640
you're dead. 
And he was actually doing the 

983
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,480
other side of the heart beside 
Jack, but all I could see was 

984
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,600
the straight line going. 
And I was like, I so in my head,

985
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,560
I'm going, you've played a 
brilliant game. 

986
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,960
Hold your head up high, walk 
out, you know, don't cry, don't 

987
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,480
do anything. 
And then afterwards, chase him 

988
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
down and beat shit out of him. 
But it was the wee heart. 

989
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,840
And then he flipped it over. 
And I'm like, yeah. 

990
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,080
So that, that feels like a 
lifetime ago. 

991
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,760
But also, it was one of the 
weirdest moments of my life. 

992
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,160
You know, when you're you've 
worked. 

993
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,880
And we did work hard and we'd 
like late nights and like, it's 

994
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,040
hard work murdering people. 
What time do you leave at? 

995
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,200
I don't know. 
There's no watches, there's no 

996
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,000
clocks. 
You're joking me. 

997
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,720
No, I'd be awful. 
Telling the time, I guess in the

998
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,160
time. 
Well, we got really good at 

999
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,680
reading the sundial in the front
lawn. 

1000
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,160
Seriously. 
No shame. 

1001
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,800
Yeah. 
So would you see if they do come

1002
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,080
knocking for the celebrity 
version? 

1003
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,560
I wouldn't do. 
It my dad, my dad's brilliant 

1004
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,000
guessing the time is he we'd be 
out in a walk when I was 

1005
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,280
younger. 
Maybe there's only happened once

1006
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,960
in my head. 
I'm loads of times, but he'd go,

1007
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,600
we get back to the car. 
What time you think it's going 

1008
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,320
to be? 
And I'd say like 8:00 and he was

1009
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,240
4:20 and he'd be, he'd be 4 
minutes out. 

1010
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,120
He's a wee watching his pocket. 
He's been landed, Yeah, he's 

1011
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,760
been landed. 
The whole. 

1012
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,000
Time. 
No, my dad, famously, he's never

1013
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,520
want to watch. 
Famously. 

1014
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,720
Never want to watch his. 
Life and he also likes punching 

1015
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,240
people. 
Where he gets punched, Yeah, big

1016
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,840
difference there. 
He gets punched. 

1017
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,280
Would you like punched with that
in the stomach sometime? 

1018
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,760
I'd love to, he offers there. 
He would love that. 

1019
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,720
Yeah, he'd love that. 
Bring it on because he'd like 

1020
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:39,600
more high profile people to be 
doing it like. 

1021
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,840
Tell him I'll wear my cloak as 
well. 

1022
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,960
I think he's only got about 10 
left I'd say before he. 

1023
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Right. 
Well then book me in. 76 Yeah, 

1024
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,480
this might be the one to finish 
him. 

1025
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,560
Off I don't want to be the 
Latin. 

1026
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,760
Could you imagine the headlines 
that would ruin my reputation? 

1027
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
I'm going to get started. 
Yeah, and then they'd be like, 

1028
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,880
she has a murder board. 
You will go down for that big 

1029
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,960
time. 
Yeah, I know. 

1030
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,400
Her first real murder. 
Yeah. 

1031
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,120
No, just tell him, I said well. 
Nah. 

1032
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,200
No punch and I just said hello. 
Umm. 

1033
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,160
See as when you have that moment
where like you've won, how long 

1034
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,000
after that before you can tell 
your family you able to get on 

1035
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,760
the phone 10 minutes after that 
or. 

1036
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,840
No, they found out in the 23rd 
of January. 

1037
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,560
They found out when the show 
went out. 

1038
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,040
They found out I won the night. 
So they they were in in Yuri in 

1039
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,160
the Canal court watching the 
show live. 

1040
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Get you, get you. 
And they found out. 

1041
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Now my husband knew I come home.
And so it's funny story, I come 

1042
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,920
home. 
I told him I didn't win. 

1043
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,400
I rang him when I got out of the
castle and the show was over and

1044
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,800
I was like, right, I'm coming 
home tomorrow. 

1045
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Listen, I didn't win, but it did
really well. 

1046
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,240
Nobody. 
He'd never watched a show show. 

1047
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,040
I could have told him anything. 
Landed home and God loved him. 

1048
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,840
His uncle had passed away, so he
was at the funeral. 

1049
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,360
You're trying not to laugh. 
That's awful. 

1050
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,920
I'm not. 
They told me you're a nice 

1051
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,920
person. 
So like Irish funeral. 

1052
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,240
So he was out on the drink for 
the day and by the time I got 

1053
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,680
home that evening he was half 
cut and I was like, oh, you 

1054
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,640
know, surprise. 
I actually did win and he went 

1055
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,840
well done Much. 
Did you win a nice is 47 grand 

1056
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,800
no bother to you. 
And then the next the next day I

1057
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,480
had to set him. 
Did you remember last night? 

1058
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,360
I you won that we game, Yeah. 
Yeah, right. 

1059
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Yeah, Duffy, I did. 
I won the game. 

1060
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,560
That's great. 
When's it on the? 

1061
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,080
When's it on the TV? 
Oh no, that's your second. 

1062
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:37,120
Yeah, his name's Duffy. 
Duffy, do you know what I'm 

1063
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,760
figuring out now? 
That you didn't go to university

1064
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,280
for a reason. 
I was like, that is AI. 

1065
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,560
Don't know if that's a terrible 
first name or a great first. 

1066
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Name Sophie Duffy. 
Yeah, Duffy like Duffy. 

1067
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,040
So he. 
You join anything to the circus.

1068
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,040
No, no, no. 
Feels like it thought sometimes,

1069
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,120
but no. 
What is the coolest thing you've

1070
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,480
got to do since the show, 
whether it's an event or 

1071
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,240
anything? 
Anfield. 

1072
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,280
As like AVIP type thing, yeah. 
But you know what our our dad 

1073
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,880
was like the biggest supporter 
ever. 

1074
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,400
Travelled around with the team 
in the 80s and stuff, just about

1075
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,280
made it home for my birth and 
his dream was for all of us to 

1076
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,480
go to Anfield. 
So the fact that mommy had 

1077
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,320
passed away, don't be laughing 
at that one. 

1078
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,600
I. 
Actually, I genuinely wouldn't. 

1079
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,040
You're you're a bad egg. 
So obviously I that's awful. 

1080
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Tell you what, cancel this 
podcast. 

1081
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,400
This is this is done. 
And so mommy passed away at the 

1082
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,960
start of the year and I had put 
up just a lovely tribute because

1083
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,600
we're really, really close 
family. 

1084
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,160
Tell that initial. 
And You Never Walk Alone was 

1085
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,040
played at Daddy's funeral and 
was played at Mommy's because it

1086
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,040
just means a lot to the family. 
And I'd put it up all these 

1087
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,160
lovely pictures and Liverpool 
reached out and they were like, 

1088
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,000
listen, we'd love to take you 
over for the Liverpool Legends. 

1089
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,360
And I was like, this is the best
thing ever for for the boys and 

1090
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,680
for Joe. 
And then we landed over and they

1091
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,200
had said to me, would you like 
to meet the legends afterwards? 

1092
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,080
And I was like, crap, we're 
going to miss our flight. 

1093
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,680
I said, we can't. 
And it was the last flight of 

1094
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,840
the night. 
And with young kids and stuff, 

1095
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,560
we had to get home. 
And then I'm a big believer in 

1096
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,760
the universe will put things in 
your path, whatever. 

1097
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,280
And we're sitting at halftime 
and I looked at my phone and it 

1098
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520
says, EasyJet, we're sorry for 
the disturbance, but your 

1099
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,040
flight's been delayed. 
And I'm like, I can't, like I 

1100
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,480
couldn't breathe. 
It was the excitement. 

1101
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,600
So I knew, especially my 
youngest brother, who's a big 

1102
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,160
fan of yours, I knew he would 
just be like a child and 

1103
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,200
Christmas morning. 
So I didn't tell them that we 

1104
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,960
had these passes. 
Let the game roll out. 

1105
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,000
So it's like we have to go back 
down to the lounge, pick up our 

1106
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,960
bags. 
We have to go straight to the 

1107
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,760
airport. 
And then Neil, we have to go, we

1108
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,800
have to go, we're going to be 
late. 

1109
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,080
And I said, hang on a second. 
And then the girls come round 

1110
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,160
and we're like, here's your 
passes for the players lounge. 

1111
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,160
And I just thought this is one 
of the best moments ever to be 

1112
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,000
able to do that and even start 
and listening to you never walk 

1113
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,080
alone. 
The five of us were standing 

1114
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,680
with their arms around each 
other, just listening, going 

1115
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,960
like. 
And I think without me having 

1116
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,240
that personal connection, that 
song, even as a United fan, 

1117
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,120
yeah, I think I'd be there, 
like, blown away the emotion. 

1118
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,680
It's the meaning behind it and 
stuff. 

1119
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,280
And a beautiful, beautiful. 
Oh, sure, we were all, we were 

1120
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,520
all cool. 
We weren't crying at all. 

1121
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,600
Um, but just. 
And I got on to the show to make

1122
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,080
memories. 
Yeah, and I just saw. 

1123
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,640
Obviously that has to change 
slightly because of mommy, but 

1124
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,440
it still kind of stays with the 
family and make those lovely 

1125
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,560
memories. 
So that was like that's 

1126
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,840
brilliant. 
So we're going back now for 

1127
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,440
their gala ball in class May. 
So we're we're taking the most 

1128
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,920
sensible Mullen. 
We're taking Darren right to go 

1129
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,520
over for that. 
One and you stay in the night. 

1130
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,720
We're staying the night. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1131
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,000
No early flights. 
I like the idea of that. 

1132
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,160
We like just that we alert from 
EasyJet. 

1133
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:32,960
Like that was that was on. 
I I was a wee nudge from my dog 

1134
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,840
on here you go here you have a 
little bit of time. 

1135
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,600
So we went down to the players 
lines, but you didn't know who 

1136
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,560
was going to come in, right. 
So the different players were 

1137
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,600
coming in and then it was Steve 
McAllister come in with Steve 

1138
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,440
McAllister. 
Wasn't there? 

1139
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,680
No. 
What do you call the man Stephen

1140
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,880
Wright? 
Oh, so Stephen Wright come in 

1141
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,520
and we're cracking around our 
boys like, oh, you know, when 

1142
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,800
they're kind of like chatting 
away to them and then he's I've 

1143
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,280
to get a selfie with you for my 
wife. 

1144
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,960
She loves the traders and 
they're going this is mad who 

1145
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,560
legends are, you know, know who 
you are whatever. 

1146
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,000
Umm, but yeah, that was 
definitely a highlight. 

1147
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,680
Hopefully loads more to come. 
Yeah umm, sorry. 

1148
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,320
And this this is a highlight. 
Thank you. 

1149
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,760
Your your fly like a lot. 
Yeah. 

1150
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,400
Like we actually nearly did this
pod in London. 

1151
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Remember, we're both in London 
the same day. 

1152
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,280
Yeah, I think we're in the same 
day. 

1153
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,720
Say you have a 9:00 AM flight to
London. 

1154
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,160
What time you get to the 
airport? 

1155
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,920
At 7:00. 
On the dot, yeah. 

1156
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,080
For 9 flight without checking a 
bag in hand luggage. 

1157
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,880
That's all checked in. 
Hand luggage, yeah, or you are 

1158
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,680
checking a bag in. 
No, it's no for you get a wee, 

1159
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,400
you get a mini bag right and 
you're. 

1160
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,920
Checking out on the plane. 
Yeah, right. 

1161
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,360
But you're getting there to 
because Borden's going to close 

1162
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,520
at what, 820? 
You're going to be there at 

1163
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,400
7:00. 
Yeah, but you like you having a 

1164
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,360
me breakfast at the airport? 
No, we coffee and we people. 

1165
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Watch. 
That's a lot. 

1166
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,160
That's a lot. 
I I like to do like So we had an

1167
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,480
event in London last week. 
So our flight was at 7:00. 

1168
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,400
So we left near A3 to get there 
for four. 

1169
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,520
Would you not be? 
No. 

1170
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Sorry, Dublin. 
No, no shorts. 

1171
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,080
It's the same. 
Yeah. 

1172
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,920
So we're equidistance between 
the two. 

1173
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,360
But it meant then see, that 
night we were at the event and 

1174
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,520
like the speeches and all. 
Listen, me and my sister and all

1175
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,160
meant the two of us. 
Yeah. 

1176
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,480
We were falling asleep. 
So umm, yeah, I'm, I'm learning 

1177
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,000
to maybe go with the day before 
or whatever. 

1178
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,320
I also feel like I work for 
EasyJet sometimes I feel like I 

1179
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,040
should wear orange Yes when I 
fly because. 

1180
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,520
An orange cloak with EasyJet on 
it. 

1181
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:29,640
They love that. 
Wasn't that they would love that

1182
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,560
like. 
#Sponsor me. 

1183
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,520
I once gave a woman an inhaler 
on an EasyJet flight and the 

1184
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,880
staff thought I was brilliant 
and I basically got like loads 

1185
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,160
of duty for anal I swear to God.
Was it your inhaler or? 

1186
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,800
It was my inhaler. 
The lady was having an asthma 

1187
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,920
attack and I went. 
They went does anyone have an 

1188
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,920
inhaler my hand up and I went 
but don't let her mouth touch 

1189
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,520
it. 
I gave her it and I said just 

1190
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,000
put tell her to put her hand 
over. 

1191
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,240
You'd be one of these ones. 
If someone's like dying on the 

1192
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,440
floor and they need CPR, that 
you you wouldn't touch their 

1193
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,280
lips. 
I'd usually be funnel or 

1194
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,560
something. 
And if they didn't have one, 

1195
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,200
would you just let them die? 
I think you paused too long. 

1196
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,000
No, do you, do you think I like,
do you think no, I I'd be like 

1197
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,720
emotional like I, I but yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

1198
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,360
I have a care. 
I'm I'm a carer like. 

1199
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:19,960
That doesn't come across at all.
Yeah, I would do like I wouldn't

1200
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,240
want to be doing this year. 
I wouldn't. 

1201
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,880
I don't think I would be. 
I'm too laid back even in that 

1202
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,760
situation. 
I'd be like, we'll be fine. 

1203
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,480
Would you not be good in an 
emergency? 

1204
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,360
I'm just too laid back, like, Oh
yeah, I can't be all right in an

1205
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,440
emergency at times. 
You know, I'm pretty like, I 

1206
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,760
don't, I don't get all like, 
stressed. 

1207
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,760
Yeah, really ever. 
Which is bad, like always. 

1208
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,200
You're just, you're just a cool 
cat. 

1209
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Just cool guy. 
Yeah, very cool guy. 

1210
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,920
That loves New City. 
Yeah, I I got to go home and 

1211
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,120
tell my brother that he has to 
send you a written apology. 

1212
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,040
Well, I still feel like there's 
enough of a family connection at

1213
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,680
the club that time. 
Well, he is the chairperson, so 

1214
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,440
he could pull a couple of. 
Yeah, but I was, I was honestly 

1215
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,120
dismayed by that. 
Oh yeah. 

1216
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,280
And it was a missed opportunity 
for me and the club. 

1217
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,800
But what age were you then? 
35. 

1218
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,760
Yeah, no, you're too old to be 
signed. 

1219
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,080
I I'm getting younger like 
they've analysed being to round 

1220
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,280
boxing and they analyse your 
body and they're like you're 21.

1221
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:17,800
What are the feeding people down
in Hollywood? 

1222
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,320
Caviar. 
Are you doing that salmon sperm 

1223
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,320
on your face, doing all those 
creams and stuff? 

1224
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,120
While quite the first time we've
met each other and you're asking

1225
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,200
me that. 
I know, but I feel like I know. 

1226
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,080
Yeah, so you're set. 
It's either a real compliment or

1227
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,880
a real insult because you're 
either saying you look like 

1228
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,720
you're doing that, yeah, you're 
lucky, or you're going, you need

1229
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:40,720
to be doing that. 
No. 

1230
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,560
What age are you now? 
Just about turned 38. 

1231
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,360
Is that only three years ago? 
The Liverpool Legends match. 3-4

1232
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,040
years ago, yeah. 
Yeah, no, you're lucky. 

1233
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,240
That's why I was asking. 
Maybe you'd put in the caviar on

1234
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,000
your face or anything. 
No, but it wouldn't be against 

1235
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,560
it doing all that stuff. 
OK. 

1236
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,320
I don't want like, I don't want 
work done, but I don't not want 

1237
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,560
work done. 
That makes sense. 

1238
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,320
I don't want like, I don't. 
I don't want a new house built, 

1239
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,160
but I'll take away renovation. 
Yeah. 

1240
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Yeah. 
Take a Conservatory. 

1241
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,760
You know they didn't know. 
You wouldn't do the whole like 

1242
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,760
Jenner baselift. 
No, because I would have. 

1243
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,640
I like, I do have a lot of like 
fine lines, but it's from 

1244
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,160
laughing. 
My face tells a story. 

1245
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,360
You enjoyed your own joke there.
I was a knee slapper. 

1246
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,720
I love laughing at myself 
because I, I said this morning, 

1247
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,560
I don't know, I says I think 
this podcast is going to be like

1248
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,880
really telling if you're funny 
or not. 

1249
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960
I think I'm frigging hilarious. 
Yeah. 

1250
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,000
It's going to slap my knee 
again. 

1251
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,720
Yeah, yeah. 
Well, at least somebody has to 

1252
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,400
be. 
Well, now do you get some? 

1253
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,280
Like, do you get cool free stuff
at the minute? 

1254
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,920
Yeah. 
What's the best free stuff 

1255
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,240
you've got? 
I love free stuff. 

1256
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:53,280
I got this T-shirt at the Blue 
Salmon Sperm. 

1257
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,560
I went to Blue Live. 
Did you? 

1258
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:58,080
Yep. 
And then they gave me a goodie 

1259
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,120
bag at the Waterfront and Ulster
Hall because they're owned by 

1260
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,440
the same company. 
You don't need to know this. 

1261
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,360
And then I thought it was a 
Bluey goodie bag and I went just

1262
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,240
for the kids and went just for 
you and there was an Ulster all 

1263
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,480
T-shirt and I was like, I don't 
know if I wear an Ulster Hall 

1264
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,400
T-shirt and then but it's a 
lovely fit. 

1265
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,120
And then I just. 
Wore it. 

1266
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,040
It's nice, yeah. 
But I went to Bluey Lives. 

1267
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,000
Good luck. 
Do you have kids ready? 

1268
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:20,320
No. 
That doesn't look wrong at all. 

1269
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:28,480
They're. 2124 but. 
Yeah, I do. 

1270
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,880
I didn't take them to Blue Life,
but no, yeah, it took me kids. 

1271
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,760
That's good to know. 
Quick show, which was good. 

1272
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,920
Yeah, I thought it was the 
interval, but the show was over.

1273
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,480
I like Bluey, I don't like Peppa
Pig, I think she's very cheeky 

1274
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,880
and George is a yap. 
George is a yap. 

1275
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Yeah, he's like my younger 
brother, right? 

1276
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,640
Yeah. 
Does he also have a dinosaur? 

1277
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,840
Yeah, it's in his back pocket 
right now. 

1278
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,520
Reason Pepper is a no. 
I don't think Pepper is that 

1279
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,520
cheeky in the grand scheme of 
kids like. 

1280
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,080
No. 
I just think Blue and Bingo are 

1281
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,240
very well behaved, even though 
Bingo can get a bit hyper 

1282
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,280
sometimes, they're very well 
behaved. 

1283
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,840
You know, the bar is set quite 
high. 

1284
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,480
Yeah, I like the Blue is a 
brilliant programme. 

1285
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,840
Yeah, I must actually ask how to
get to that one though. 

1286
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,000
But yeah, freebies so. 
These are is there these events 

1287
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,520
you go to? 
Is there a wee goodie bag of 

1288
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,480
those? 
Oh yeah, So the Charlotte, so 

1289
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,840
the King's Trust, one that we 
went to Charlotte Tilbury took 

1290
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,560
us over and glammed us all and 
there was little pots of her 

1291
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,440
magic cream on the the table 
engraved in with your name on 

1292
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,560
it. 
Gee, this is a wee bit mad, 

1293
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,840
isn't it? 
But no, people are very good. 

1294
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,000
It's just, it's weird when you 
get, it's weird when you get 

1295
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,120
free stuff, you know, like lots 
of lots of face creams. 

1296
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Send the my way apparently. 
Face creams and yeah, just 

1297
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,000
invitations to places and you're
like, this is. 

1298
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Does it kind of all feel like 
almost normal now? 

1299
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,160
What this kind of new thing of 
flying around doing these 

1300
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,000
things? 
No, it still feels like I'm 

1301
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000
watching somebody else doing it 
and that it shouldn't be 

1302
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,920
happening to me. 
And all you did was murder 

1303
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,400
people in a game. 
Why are you being rewarded? 

1304
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,800
Why am I? 
I'm going to the Baftas next 

1305
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,040
week. 
No. 

1306
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,840
Yeah, and I'm like, how does a 
girl from Yuri end up walking 

1307
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,760
the red carpet? 
Now, I don't watch an awful lot 

1308
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,600
of TV, so I've been interviewed 
before and kind of going. 

1309
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,560
I have no idea. 
You can make a fortune selling 

1310
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,880
advertising on your dress like 
if you wore a fire tux dress 

1311
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,120
made out of paper like. 
The green, yes. 

1312
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,040
Yeah, because they've asked to 
wear something that's 

1313
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,120
sustainable or, you know, I 
wonder what they do. 

1314
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,080
One in a large size. 
I took no. 

1315
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,520
Come on. 
Because me, because I'm so tall.

1316
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,400
Oh, what are you going to say? 
Go in the bathroom to be class 

1317
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,160
with this. 
Yeah. 

1318
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,080
So yeah, that's it is it's 
strange. 

1319
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,600
It's I don't think it's ever 
going to be lost. 

1320
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,200
I think the minute it's lost to 
me, then there's something 

1321
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,200
wrong. 
But it does feel like, oh crap, 

1322
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,120
what do I do? 
Or, you know, it doesn't feel 

1323
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,600
like it's happening to me. 
As a final question, say you're 

1324
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,920
going to do like a documentary 
or something like another TV 

1325
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,160
thing. 
What would you do? 

1326
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,360
Like if you aspiration do more 
TV type stuff, you and you and 

1327
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,840
Steve do a wee road trip thing 
or something. 

1328
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,560
Couldn't we? 
Yeah, yeah, I know People keep 

1329
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,680
saying every time I post about 
me and Steve and I when he's 

1330
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,760
having your own TV show or doing
something together, because we 

1331
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,120
do. 
We could do get along really 

1332
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,680
well. 
I don't know. 

1333
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,400
I'm kind of open to listen. 
I'll give anything a try. 

1334
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,200
But I think the focus for me 
right now is the book. 

1335
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,560
I want a book deal and I want to
get that over the line. 

1336
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,240
I'll send that to your 21 and 24
year old kids, signing a wee 

1337
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,200
copy for them. 
But listen, I'll never say 

1338
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,560
never, but in terms of a 
documentary, dysfunctional 

1339
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,800
families. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1340
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,000
You know, overrated football 
players. 

1341
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,200
Tracking Jason Mcateer could be 
in that. 

1342
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,600
Stalker. 
You don't want to Jason Mcateer 

1343
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,400
slander. 
I get that. 

1344
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,120
I just mean he has a yap every 
single time we played in these 

1345
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,400
games. 
He's a nightmare. 

1346
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,000
And I'm like, Jason, you're not 
playing the Premier League, 

1347
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,240
you're playing against me at sea
View like. 

1348
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160
Relax maybe. 
Maybe he felt threatened by you.

1349
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Well, he called. 
He called that goal offside. 

1350
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,160
Not much. 
We played and he was yapping at 

1351
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,000
the referee, him and Gigsy. 
And you've totally got over it. 

1352
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,280
Well, we watched the footage 
back and it was on set. 

1353
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,120
Yeah, So have you let it go? 
Yeah, your face is telling all 

1354
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,560
I. 
Didn't know is what I might need

1355
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,920
this the salmon sperm but all 
all I need to know is what after

1356
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,360
she ever uses and then I'm done 
I'll. 

1357
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,760
Ask him when we're in, yeah. 
Probably be at the bath this 

1358
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,360
one, right, You've got to go, 
you've got to go. 

1359
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,080
But thank this I can believe his
first podcast as well. 

1360
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,440
Thank you very much for honestly
for making this first podcast. 

1361
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,720
Thank you for for inviting me 
down. 

1362
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,160
I know I laughed though when my 
brother knew I was on the show. 

1363
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,840
He was like, right. 
Two things we need to do next 

1364
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,680
year, Anfield and Shane Todd. 
Yep, because obviously he does. 

1365
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,400
He generally thinks your podcast
is cool. 

1366
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600
I've started watching him a bit 
more and think it is very funny.

1367
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,080
Your guests are very funny. 
Yeah. 

1368
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,920
No, we could have signed off on 
a lovely note there. 

1369
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,640
Sorry, sorry, I've really 
enjoyed my first podcast because

1370
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,760
this is the best podcast in the 
world. 

1371
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,320
Thank you very much, Rachel. 
No, thank you very much for 

1372
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,200
coming down. 
You were. 

1373
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,240
I love the show. 
I think you were unbelievable 

1374
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,160
and I'm really glad you won. 
Me too. 

1375
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,000
Can I have some money? 
I'll give you E Delhi lights 

1376
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,320
coffee.
