Zippers, welcome to this episode of the Tea With Me podcast.
Unless you've been living under a rock for the last few years,
you know of or are addicted to, like me and many other people
here, the traitors. What a series.
Rachel Duffy from here, from Newry one.
No spoilers. Come on.
Yeah. Won the latest series of The
Traders and was one of the, if not the best contestant of all
time. We tried to make this episode
happen for a while. We're going to do it in London.
It didn't work out. We finally made it happen here.
Please enjoy this episode of the TV With Me podcast with my
amazing guest, Rachel Duffy. I've got a horrible reception.
When I walked in, she was like, yeah, doesn't know me.
I don't know, human. Like I get I would really annoy
me. Like it would really annoy me.
I lie in the family. She tells the truth, right?
You do lie, like, yeah, yeah. I can't trust.
I could never trust you after watching the traders.
You're looking shock and well today.
Right. Well, now I know you that was
just put on for the show because you do tell the truth all the
time. I tried, you know what, for
this, this first ever podcast. Yeah, I tried to get Leanne
Mccooley to come and crash the last 20 minutes, but she
couldn't today. I would love it.
She was going to come in and just, yeah, the door down and
come on. And then pretend that we were
best friends at school. But were you like, how do you
know Mccurry? I can't stand her.
Right. Yeah.
So we went to, yeah, we went to the same secondary school
together, right. So I've known her from, we were
11. And then when she had a wee
coffee shop, I take the kids on our wee dates and stuff.
And I supported her winter comedy nights when it was just
in her actual like little. Do you ever come and see me
there? Huh.
Do you ever come and see me there?
No, no. Why?
I think I was busy that night. I've done so many like and I
gave for your brother so much too.
Do you know what? And the football club?
Yeah. I think you were there one of
the nights where you went down, me and my sister went down to
watch her in our place. And then I couldn't make the
night. You did down at the football
club. It was brilliant actually.
Really enjoyed that I. Was totally raging and then I
went to see her in the in the town hall and then the Ulster
flat which is in Warrenpoint, which is where the girls from
the show came so. Right, this is mental to me.
So you Mccooley was saying you went you and basically some of
the cast of the traders went to see her after the show was done.
Yeah. So the show obviously can't talk
about it. So the show finished in June and
then we have a like a WhatsApp group and so 22 of us not.
What's the name of the group? Oh, that's a good story.
That's actually a good story. So the WhatsApp group.
Was impressed by my interview in there because I didn't even know
I how can I know what the name of it was?
Because that wasn't planned at all, no.
So the WhatsApp group was called traders and then I thought.
I mean, not very original, no for whoever named.
But I had said I says folks can some.
I wasn't an admin at the time and obviously because I.
Like being admin in groups. Yeah, I love control, but I was
one of the last ones to leave the castle because I obviously
won. So they had set this group up
and then I had joined it and I had apologised to all them for
either Land of their faces or, you know, murdering them.
So then I had sets up. Yeah, come on.
Yeah, that's a phone call. No.
No, right. No, no, not really.
So I got added into the group and then I was like, oh God.
I said my kids pick up my phone and watch YouTube and all this.
I said I can't have a traders. So then I said, can somebody
change this? So then they change it to
Rachel's university friends. And I was like, you don't have a
group called your own university friends.
And I was. Can somebody change this to
something cooler? By the way, I'm actually jealous
of you because if my kids saw that to be like, we know daddy
didn't go to university. I went for a little.
Bit daddy packed mates. Well, I I texted him saying can
somebody change this to something cooler?
Yes. So it's called something cooler.
Oh, it's called something cooler.
I like it. Yeah, so it was hidden.
And another way you can hide a chat in your WhatsApp.
So it was hidden, right. And then it only like literally
popped his head out the other day where I'm like, I don't need
to hide this anymore. So could you not tell your kids
you'd done the show? No, those kids.
Kids tell everything, don't they?
Yeah. So no, they didn't know.
So like. My son told his assembly that I
shaved my chest. I'm glad all their parents
right? You shave your chest.
This is when I wasn't telling people about it now.
I'm glad my kids don't know why you shave my chest anymore.
How often is that group posted it?
All the time. Still, yeah, I didn't say
honest. Have you muted?
No, I can show yet. No, I can.
Let you have a pick it up. Who post the most in it?
Why not mute? It does not do your head no do.
You know what, because there's not a lot of shite talk.
It's, you know, it's congratulating people if you
know someone's had a good event or they've done something.
Amanda posted, I think she's one of the most recent ones to post
Hugo, meet Hugo. And it was a big puppy dog that
she'd met up in Edinburgh. And I was like, I could say
loads of stuff about that, but I'm not because I'm we're going
to be friendly. But there was loads of pictures
of all the kind. She said that like, is she doing
something like you should bring fighting dogs?
No, just about. You could go totally into
something. You could go down a rabbit hole
when someone posts a picture of a dog right Called the same name
as one. That dogs do down rabbit holes.
Don't know where this conversation's going.
Neither do I Does anyone is anyone in the group?
Like who's not like I'm? I'd say Adam's not talk easy.
Does he chat much in the group? No, he's just a cool dude,
right? I loved him, yeah.
Loved that he was a. Hard.
I get attached to everybody in it.
Yeah, but you know what? Me and him, we just got along.
He, he doesn't talk for the sake of talking.
I do in real life on the show. I tried not to because I was
like trying to be, you know, more reserved or whatever.
Yes. He's just, he just reminded me
of Del Boy, right? And he was just a cool dude with
a hat on backwards. You Del Boy was a cool dude.
Yeah, Oh my God. Del Boy.
Yeah, Del Boy. From only foots and horses.
Yeah, he's so cool. Oh, Oxy and.
No. Yeah, he's class right.
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That was the first, the theme song.
That was the first song I ever knew like I was able to sing.
Can you sing? Only the only, but beautifully
like, really like an acoustic version.
Is that on your LinkedIn kind of skills?
OK, yeah, no, I can't think. But yeah, I think Delboy is
pretty cool and he talks like him.
So when when he talked, I'm like, oh, your accents class.
I was, I could listen to him. So he's not as active because
he'll post when he could be bothered, right?
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between no sentences. I never thought I remember first
hearing about the traders and seeing that the first couple of
series of it and when people are really talking up something, I
lose interest and I go everyone's people are too into
that. I'm not getting into it.
And I thought it was something I would never get into.
And then I started season 3 and instantly go I can't.
I'm in. I'm just in.
What do you think of Season 4? Was that when you're in?
Yeah, I thought I I unfortunately think I knew you'd
won before I so when 4 was starting I was still finishing
three, so I knew you'd won. How did you know I'd won when
nobody knew I won? Because it had already aired.
Oh, so then I watched it very recently.
But I I watched I. Mean you didn't watch it in
January when all of Northern Ireland were watching it.
I'm so disappointed. I know because I still had to
finish three. And then I watched the Irish one
too. Oh yeah.
But I thought, I didn't think you and Stephen could.
I was like, you'll it seemed really difficult to sustain what
you've done because it was the most consistent run, I thought.
Like there was no wobble. Oh, there were wobbles.
I didn't feel like you were ever not going to win if I hadn't
seen it. If I hadn't known you were going
to win, Yeah, I'd have known from like episode 2 or three you
were going to win. Like our our family group chat,
the five siblings are in a group chat and because the Mullins,
The Avengers, oh, the Shane Todd fan club.
It can be now. In brackets, who's Shane?
So the group chat like yeah, where do you know what our
family are? The biggest Shane Todd like fans
ever. Well, I have a bone to pick with
your family. That's a that hold on, that's
that's a sign bite for you. But in our group chat, my one of
my older brothers who doesn't drink or anything, he'd be
saying how much of A diazepam do I need to take tonight?
I can't cope. I really can't cope.
Tell me if you've won. I'll not tell anybody.
And I mean, it went on the whole months to the end where they'd
say, we're going to book the Canal Court, we're going to
watch it all together. And I was like, you don't know
if I'm in the last episode together.
And they're like, oh, all right, OK.
And then when it came to the chest, the chance they're like,
we could have booked this room and you could be in it for 30
seconds. And then they'd no faith in me
because they were like, even if you get through, you're
completely fucked because nobody believes you.
It's like, thanks very much. I've won the pick with your
brother. OK.
Which 10, Darren? I was asked playing charity
match for New York City. I said yeah, what's the fee said
for charity? I said all right.
And a play against Liverpool. Liverpool legends.
Yeah, I just say Liverpool what I'm talking about.
But like they're all over sexy and them.
And I said the Darren, listen, I went if I score, will you send
me? And he said yeah.
And what did I do? Is water wet scored no contract.
I scored. You remember I scored and did
that. Oh, is that what that meant?
That's what that was. I.
Thought you were writing a check to yourself?
You're cashing your own check, but.
It was never shined. Do you know what our Darren
actually said? You are one of the best
footballers he had in that pitch.
Are you just saying that? Are you actually just saying
that? You said you're shit.
Actually. Had a great game.
We when we were talking about you last night because he was
like, enjoy tomorrow. And I said yeah, no bother.
And he's all I remember that goal, he says.
That was a good goal. I meant a lot to me.
Yeah, he did. He said that.
He said it was good. Yeah.
Being serious, yeah, that really means a lot to me because he's a
football man. I like when football man saying.
Things. He knows stuff.
Do you know that me and my sister Joe were at that match
and you know our favourite part of it was?
When I scored a goal. No meeting Jason Mcateer.
What? Over me, Mcateer.
Yeah, he let himself down. See, every game he plays, I
don't. Care how he plays he he smelt
lovely. Fancy Jason McAfee You?
Know what? Like we grew up watching him in
the 90s and stuff and I was like, oh, he's so lovely.
And then we went to, we went to Anfield recently.
We had curtains, didn't they? Yeah, he was just very nice.
And then so we met him and we met him down at the showgrounds
and then we were like, oh he's lovely and he was so friendly
and a nice person. And then we went to Anfield
recently, we've met a couple of the legends and the next thing
it was just like the doors of the the left opened and Jason
popped out and me and my sister went.
Are you confusing him with Jason Orange from Take That?
No. Do you mean Jason Mcateer?
Jason Mcateer. He's lovely, isn't he, JoJo?
He smelt oil. Yeah, whatever he's wearing.
He, well, I'll tell you what, he's a he's, he's really
annoying when you play football and he's always just, he's a big
moaner, but I haven't smelt them.
Oh, the next time you play football, smell.
Smell them. Yeah.
Umm, right. I've so many like behind the
scenes type questions to ask you about the traders because it's
obviously so well put together as a show.
But before I do that, how did you find out you were going on
it? I was sitting in work and I knew
I was going to get a phone call at some point that week.
It's not the worst. Yeah, when you just tell me
we're going to just. Tell me yes or no?
No, I obviously manifested my way onto the show, knew I was
going to get on, knew I was going to win.
So this was just, this is going to happen.
And then I was sitting and the phone went and it was the girl
that I'd been dealing with the whole way through and she just
is just wanted to give you a call and listen.
And when she went listen. And I was like, no, no, no,
don't choose all listen. You're going to have to go and
pack your bags. And then I just, I got off the
call and I just remember I was in a wee wheelie church and like
a wee computer chair and just remember swinging around.
There was no one there. And I swung around.
I was like, shit, I'm going to. Yeah.
And I was like, I couldn't celebrate.
But it was also shaken with excitement.
And then? Can you?
Did you even tell people you'd applied?
No, the lady that I work with that told me I should apply.
I says I applied for the crack and didn't get.
Right. And then just mysteriously
disappeared for three weeks. But.
What did you tell people were going for three weeks?
I told them I was doing a social media experiment with Channel 5
because I needed it to be not BBC One.
Not kind of, you know, but also a reason for leaving.
And no one would really know when he won a Channel 5, do you
know what I mean? No, and nobody would expect
anything from Channel 5. Maybe don't put that in just in
case I get a contract with. Channel 5, just to hit you with
a massive offer. Umm, so yeah, it had to be.
So I told different lies to different groups of people.
That's so dangerous. Totally.
But I was hoping they wouldn't talk to each other.
So I told my family. My son, my sister knew where I
was going because she obviously, you know, was helping mind the
kids. She knew you were doing traders.
She knew I was doing the show. Did she struggle keeping that?
No, and she could struggle to keep her water, so she kept that
one because she knew I told her she'd be fine, £500,000 or
something. But then I told my siblings I
was doing a social media experiment so I'd have no phone
and a reason to leave the kids, that they'd be a prize at the
end of all this kind of crack. And then I told my kids that I
was going off to do a course for work that would help me with my
future. So I was trying not to lie to
them as much. But also mommy has to go.
And they were like, well mommy, you're really clever.
So hopefully you finish the course early and come home and
I'm going. I wanted to go the other way,
you know, I want to stay a bit longer.
But yeah, I had to tell a few different lies and somebody
thought I was in therapy or, sorry, in rehab.
So my husband, who's a bit of a gob shake, I love him, loving
the bits. But he was at the sidelines of a
football game and happened to say to someone, there are good
words. Rachel, we haven't seen her
because I go to the all the matches and they're like, oh,
she's and he panicked. She's in England doing an
experiment and she's no phone. And you know, we kind of tripped
over his words and stuff. So then my friends, friends with
whatever and she says here, somebody thought you were in
rehab over the summer because you were addicted to your phone
and social media. That's why you don't tell
anybody anything. Yeah.
Did you ever have them? Did anyone guess it?
Did anyone say like, you're not doing the traitor?
Are you as a joke or anything like that?
Darren, my brother, so when I come out of the Channel 5
experiment, got my phone back and I was like, hi folks, still
alive, just got my phone back and it was all the messages.
She did this. So the messages were she's done,
the traders, Love Island, a couple of different reality ones
and I had to come out and do a video.
Your husband would be raging if you did Love Island.
I don't think you'd be happy. No, no.
Can I just go off to? What do you call?
That phone call with a partner like.
Yeah, Casa more. Casa More.
No. So I remember having and I did a
video and I was like, listen, folks will use just chill.
I'll be able to tell you whenever, you know, I can
announce it. Just for the record, I haven't
done the traders. I haven't done the love.
You know, I haven't done all this here.
And then I was like, hopefully that's the last lie that I'd
have to tell them. Yeah, but he did.
But then he went off the scent because he loves the show,
right? And then I went up to their
house on New Year's Eve with the traders top.
And then I told everybody. And.
Brilliant. Before it aired.
Yeah, it was coming out the next day.
Oh, how did everybody react? The thought it was AI.
So the announcement, oh, the announcement when I told them in
person because everybody when I posted on social media thought
it was AI. So the right master going is
this real? Is this real?
So I had a traders top and I was like revealing it.
It was like flasher going into everyone's house going.
But it was only for my immediate family before it came out.
And yeah, there was no, no, you're not.
I'll stop. You're a white because I would
wind people up all the time. So some of them didn't believe
me. And then I have a very vocal
sister-in-law who just went mute.
And then our Darren was all, oh, what have you done?
Right? Oh, because it's his like, his
favourite show. And then he was like, oh God,
please don't tell me you're involved in any drama.
But no, no bad real bad drama. No, but you look at any big
drama in that castle, I was in the middle of it.
Yeah, yeah, just a lot of vocal women.
Now, how, as a fan of the show, going into it, what did you
notice was different than what you thought?
Like when you went in, did you go?
We're filming more than I thought we would, or less or.
It was less staged than I thought it was going to be.
Do you know? I thought they'd have to go.
We'll set up here. We'll do this.
You're literally it almost had like a Big Brother did.
You have loads of cameras. Fail.
Yeah. So there was fixed cameras, and
then sometimes there were like, you know, free roaming camera
people. But from the minute you arrived,
like, nothing was set up, nothing was staged, and you're
free to roam around and everything's just organic.
And you're like, this is dangerous because you've so much
time to be under scrutiny. Because in my head they're going
go and have a conversation here with this person about that.
No, that would have been totally easier.
It was the fact that anyone at any point can we have a we chat
or it was just dangerous. Then when groups gathered or
because a lot of people are like that thing with Fiona had to be
staged. I'm like I'm telling you now
that was she just went rogue. So the whole thing, I think that
was the biggest apart from being in the castle going.
I'm standing in the middle of Traders castle and the round
table and the rooms and all they were.
Just you get the chat to Claudia, she comes in and does
her bit and then leaves. But I decided that do you
actually give the chat to her? Not really, no.
She plays her part and then she goes.
But I do remember one of the days doing a mission and Jesse
said I stood beside Claudia. I can't believe it.
I'm like I beside her last night in the turret.
Do you know what you're God I've got?
So we got a little bit more time with her, but she was very much,
she'll come in and she'll do her bit and she left and then we got
those little gold chats at the start and at the end you got a
little bit more time with her. And then obviously when we won,
me and Steve were with her and she was crying and stuff and
she's class. See, I I really like Steven's
clothes and I love to have some of them, but only were like I
don't even, I think I just wear them in the house.
Oh, do you want me to? I would see apart from the big
mad collar stuff, yeah, I'd like some of his gear He's thrown out
OK if he's doing like a gotten out of his clothes.
He's doing, Yeah, he's doing. He's put something invented if
you want to go on and do EBID. Does he?
Yeah. Because I did a big clear out
and then but I just gave it to like, in fact, see that guy over
there? Yeah, he's wearing T-shirt and
tracksuit bottoms of mine right now.
I see. Yeah, sustainable fashion, isn't
it? Exactly.
Yeah. I'll tell.
I'll tell Stephen that you're a fan of his clothes.
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Did you did you have any moments in the series that you went?
How did that not make it on the TV?
Do you know what I mean? Like whether it was an argument
or a thing, we I can't wait to see that.
And then that actually wasn't on.
I thought maybe the part where I told him I was a foot model on
the first day I was going to make it in because their faces
were priceless. Like it would have set it up
that you knew maybe they didn't do it because you would have
known straight away that there were so many gullible people
standing around that bar. But that got a big giggle.
And the rest of it, no, all the good stuff made it in.
Maybe apart from Jack vomiting when he got off the carousel.
Did he? I think he was fair.
He had to walk. He had to walk back to the
castle. He couldn't get in the car.
That was brutal, that challenge. See.
Oh yeah. And all the challenges are you,
are they actually physically like difficult?
Yeah. Or is it right?
So they are how they appear. It's not like they're going
we'll get a shot he's doing this, but you're not actually
doing that. No right, not one bit, because
you know that this skull stacking challenge you to do 10
skulls and release people from a gauge.
Roxy knocked me on my arse like she she's so competitive right.
So we took off run and she knocked me down.
We were wrestling in the river and I said give me the frigging
skull. She get your own like I mean we
were it was held for leather yes and you were running around the
place like a blue horse fly. Umm no, every every single thing
that you've seen. That's what I loved about the
show. It was very the edit was very
true to what we did right? Umm, right down to the last
mission where I thought it or even the fire issue of the
mountain run. Yes, I thought it was going to
vomit right. It was tough.
See the when you were saying about the FBI training you did,
did you do that in Zoom? Umm no, it was a wee online
portal. Seriously.
Yeah. I, I, I'm very good at
manipulating the truth when there's an element, you know, I
can kind of, I need to have a base of, there's a little bit of
a structure here and then I can go off in a tangent.
So I did do that. But that also helped me realise
that Amanda was a police officer.
Right. I could tell from the first
night. She I really liked her on the
show and you obviously are really good friendly with her,
but it's mad how people get something in their head and just
run with it as in and like people are people so easily go.
I know they're a traitor when they're not and it just takes I
guess you're you don't have much to go on.
So when you do find something, you cling on.
You focus on that massively. But I thought you a bit that
like broke my heart in a finale was I'm going to say his name
wrong. Mawas for us.
For us, yeah. Close.
You you you fairly led him up a garden path like.
That's the name of the game you. Just kept being like, I think
it's him. And then he's like, yeah, I was
thinking that. And I was like, I don't think
you were. You just made a compelling case.
Yeah. Yeah, because we so we got to
watch. No, because no I didn't.
And if you look like I had a murder board, right?
So in my bedroom I had a murder board that was colour coded,
right? And he was marked from day two
in A Wee Blue Star as my end. Don't mind mummy's colour coded
murder board. That's just mummy's murder
board. Kids weren't there, they
couldn't see it, but I knew. Back in your accommodation.
Yeah, yeah. So I had a addict.
With like red string we pins on it now.
I had no string, but I had all, you know, the little cue cards
that you'd study for speech cards, yes.
So they were all up above the bed.
There was a colour code, there was notes and all of that
because I was trying to figure out secret relationships, The
secret trader, my end game. And Faz was marked as my end
game and dead too, because he kept saying it's only a game,
it's only a game. Why?
Why is everybody getting out? It's only a game.
And I thought I can manipulate the life out of you because it's
only a game. You're 22.
It's a game. And that's why I killed Roxy
because it was very, you know, emotional for her.
And I thought, right, if I get rid of, that's easier to do than
taking you to the end and lying to your face.
But the morning I told him about my strategy and what I was doing
me, we had the finalists had watched the show before it went
out just so that we could see it and we could come to terms with
who pulled the wool over his eyes and I had said.
Jade clenches her jaw. Here.
And I? Can see it.
And he him sitting on the other side.
I know. I know and I can see it.
And Jade says oh, well, I because that's because I broke
my door. She said something and I said,
Jade, I was taking the piss. Your jaw wasn't doing anything.
And the two of them just looked at each other like bitch.
Umm. So yeah, I knew you.
Were watching that together. Are people really animated?
Like, are you just watching it in silence?
Like we watched it, there was lots of tears and it was, it
was, I think it was very emotional because then you
realise this is 6 months ago. We've all held us in for six
months. Like, I love them the bets.
So there was like the final five.
There was no hard feelings with lots of slagging.
Yeah, you know, but it wasn't It was a nice experience.
And then Claudia called in to see us.
So Claudia called in to see us. And I was like, oh, my God.
Like totally fangirl in the way my sister was fangirling over
you there. When she first came in, she knew
who you were. And I was on the phone to my
sister and I said to Claudia, I'm really sorry.
I'm trying to FaceTime my sister here.
And she says call her. And I was like, she's going to
wet herself. So I rang my sister and the next
I think Claudia comes on the phone.
Sister when covers her head. She's like I have no makeup.
Oh, Claudia, don't. Like.
So Claudia was chatting away to her and having the crack and
that was before it all come out. And then whenever we won and we
had a celebration event, I had asked Claudia would she do we
message? And she came back.
She's like, I loved hearing all about your family and
congratulations. I loved meeting your sister
before she knew you won. And so that was that lovely
little moment before the world knew what happened and it was
just our wee bubble. Umm.
But yeah, it was my. I felt bad for.
Jade the whole show. Don't.
But everybody was just like, and I totally understand it's a
game, but everyone's so slight. Everyone say it's for it's
fucking you. Jade one episode in and then she
just sat there like, yeah. And she looked so much younger
than everyone. She was like, she always just
looks sad. And I remember being like,
please just get her off because she's not having a good time.
But you know what I like? I love her and she's so clever.
And it was the fact back then, the bit by bit, she started to
stick up. First off, yeah.
And then she come out and you. Know more about her story too?
Yeah, but she come out at one of the round tables and she held
her own and she was really feisty.
And afterwards, even though I'm in the opposite team, I was
like, well done, I says, good girl, you know?
And then at the end, yeah, stabbing her in the back.
But yeah. It's a game.
Yeah, and what about the Welsh woman?
Fiona Fifi, Auntie Fifi. My kids call her Auntie Fiona.
Right. They love her.
Because you, it seemed like you guys were arguing him like, but
you just had to. I know that's part of the
showdown type element of it. Yeah, did you see any of the
memes of me drop kicking her and the fights and stuff and the
turret and I'm like, that's awful because at the time I
thought you wee witch. But she kept going.
I know all that. She goes, My husband and my
brother are policemen. And I was like, my dad's a
mechanic. I can't change your brake pads.
Yeah, you know. She shot herself in the foot,
she moved too soon but I had her pinned as a secret traitor.
So when she come in and obviously she's like 3 foot
smaller than us. Like straight away I knew who it
was and she dropped the cloak and it was the we twinkle in her
eye and she was all you're playing a blinder reach.
And I was like I'm fucked here she's going to come for me.
So I knew she was going to make a move.
She just did it a day earlier than what I expected and thank
God it backfired. But that night it will go down
as one of my favourite nights in the castle.
Like we were running around piling.
It was hilarious. Yeah, because, because she was
so like cheeky about it. She loved it being a secret
trader. She did because I said then the
next day, because you're always conscious of God, it's very
dramatic. And when you're in the game,
you're in the game, you have no contact with the outside world
and it is your whole, like life at that time.
And afterwards when she left, I was like, is she OK?
And they're like, she's counting the beads on her necklace as her
victims in her interview the next day, she's fine.
I was like. Yeah, You were talking about
like, he's had that bubble before, like people knew about
it. Then when everyone finds out
about it, it was that, like, overwhelming at all?
Yeah. It was a lot because it went
from the first couple of weeks that I was still at home.
People didn't know how you get on.
There was a couple of comments gone, all here.
I hope she doesn't embarrass the country.
And you know, there's like smart art comments that you're well
used to. And then when you went over to
England and like, paparazzi, you come out of the final and
paparazzi right there and I'm going, I barely like a selfie
and there's paparazzi out here, you know?
So it was just a whole different world.
But New Newry seemed like fairly behind you from the start.
Even when you've got announcers being on it, Any comments I saw
where everybody is like right behind you.
Newry's class and it's just slagging and like, yeah, that's
the banter we kind of grew up with.
So I loved it. Our local community is amazing.
It was really, really good. It was just strange.
Then. It's almost like it's like the
big fish in the little pond and then you go out and then you go
over the cross the water and you're like, holy shit, people
chasing you down the street and asking for your autograph and
it's just. Was that weird?
The first person who came up to you being like, can I get a
photo or Yeah. And I was like, why?
We love you? And I'm like, oh, God, I'm
mortified here. So it's still, yeah, it's a lot
to get used to. And even when people ask me for
an autograph, I'm like, you're having a laugh.
Was there anyone cool like on Instagram or anything you had a
follow by anyone like in the early days of it where you went
look at this like Peter Andre or someone that's just an example.
How did you know I loved him? Peter, I was.
Saying for curtains, umm, Allison Hammond, I think she's
like hilarious. So when she when she started
following me, I like I screenshot it and I sent it to
our once and I think, Oh my God. I remember getting a fall back
and they for me, I'm at Holmes and I knew had a heart attack.
That's just like life is made at that point.
He hasn't followed me. Has he not?
No. Allison Hammond's a good one,
though. Yeah, I liked her.
And then obviously since we've come out and we've done a couple
of events and we've met people, then you have like Alan Carr, I
think has followed me back. But I I just one of the days I
says I'm going to message him for the crack who's driving down
the road with Joe. And I says I'm going to message
him and say, you know, does he know who he AM?
And I was like, well, traitor winner from one traitor winner
to another. How cheesy is this?
What's the cracker? How, you know, whatever how he
did, he messaged me back and I'm like, Holly Carr messaged me
back and he's like, we're obsessed with your season.
You were great and all that. So yeah, people have been really
lovely. But it's weird when you're at an
event and a famous person comes up, I have to get a selfie and
I'm like. Yes.
Holy shit, was there anyone that stands out?
Holly, Holly Willoughby, right. We're at an event and she was
there and I'd sit with Jade and because we're besties now and I
had says to her, umm, oh Jade, they're away.
I says we didn't get a chance to see them.
And then all you could hear was girls.
Oh my God, I have to get a picture.
And we turned around and I'm like, no, no, we've to get a
picture of you. She's like, no, I'm obsessed
with you. And you're like, how does that
happen? What did your what was your kids
first reaction when they when they watched the show?
Well, my oldest boy, he loved it.
So we. Say he's 12.
He's coming 12 now. He had known what the show was.
Yeah, yeah. So we had watched, we had
watched Season 3 together and we watched the celebrity one
together. And so then we all started
watching together and they thought like, Mommy's pretty
cool doing, you know, all the different challenges and stuff.
The thought I was classed in the dam and the helicopter.
But they loved for us more than they loved me in the show, yeah.
They're just heartbreaking moment when mommy killed for us.
Well, good job. I was in.
I was in London, right? So I didn't get to see their
reaction. So I don't know what their
reaction. I think they were all right when
their mommy won a bit of money, but yeah.
I thought even though it seemed like a load of different series
of it, I thought when it came down to you and Stephen, I
thought yous got the chance to do a thing where it's like, do
we both agree to split the money or can 1 of yous almost do a
steal? So I was waiting for that
moment. I didn't know that when it just
comes down to the final two, that's it.
That's a different game show. Now let me ask you this.
Maybe I'm thinking of deal or no deal, but let me ask you this
said just came down to you 2 Yeah.
And they go new rules. I'm Claudy.
You're twisted. Right, they go.
I keep doing this. I assume hosting a game.
Sure. You just do this, right?
It's June, Stephen. Yeah, I go back in your mind,
right? In fact, I'll just be me.
I don't want to do. I love.
I just. I'll be me, right?
OK. I just walk in to the set,
right? And I go.
You have a chance now. What was the price?
95 grand. 95 grand. Do you guys want to split it or
do you want to chance the steal? And if you both say split, then
you split it. Yeah, if one of your shows you
get it. Yeah, right.
What would you have? What would you have done?
I would have split it. But you just send that.
No, no, I'm not because I think, I think when you realise that
both of us deserve that, yeah, you know, I had a stronger start
game, he had a stronger end game.
We both worked our asses off to get there.
So credit where credit's due and like, I am competitive, hate
losing, but there comes a line when you do the right thing.
Yeah. So a lot of people said, oh, we
bet I do. The comments on social media
that you say you're not going to read and then you do read.
And it was all oh, she's cold hearted bitch and whatever she'd
throw him on the I'm sorry. But that by the way, I just I've
had a way I. Know you know what, but I
reported you so you know we're all good.
You can comment again in 30 days.
But he umm, yes, so they're all since she would have got rid of
him and all this here and he shouldn't have done that.
It was his money to have. And I'm like actually know the
whole way through minute that was made, I never ever said I'd
break up. I think you also dragged him
over the finish line a wee bit because he was faltering.
He was, he was having a week. The crisis of confidence.
He but it was his, it was his day.
You know, he had the 95,000 in the bag.
So at the very end, yes, because at one point I remember
something my husband says. You're so bloody bossy where
we've got we've. Got like don't lose your head.
Yeah, we got Jade I and we went in and I was like fast Jack,
let's do this. And he's like OK and I but like
my my he. Was going on.
He was hitting me. Redner, Yeah.
God love from lovely we and then.
You said at the end you go as a you said.
As I was a faithful, if I was a faithful, I can't even
understand. No one picked up on that.
No, but I'm watching at home on how are they not all going?
Well, there you go. Yeah, because a lot of people
had little slip UPS throughout, you know.
And then I used to go about the castle going, yeah, I am a
traitor, you know, so I use my sarcasm either way, the hide
slip UPS. But at that moment I corrected
myself quite quickly. But even when we were watching
it, Stephen turned around and goes, you stupid bitch, I said,
well, you didn't pick up. And he said no, I didn't notice
it at the time. But yeah, it was.
It was a hard one where I had on my murder board from episode 7
who I wanted to banish and kill from then worked out a charm.
So I knew I had the strategy to a tee.
So I just needed to remind him that we had the same plan
because he kept saying, like he says, I watched July for three
weeks like brilliantly to other people.
So of course you're going to do it to me.
Do. You still have the murder board.
I still have all the elements of the murder board.
That's the. Most terrifying sentence
anyone's ever said. Yeah, they'd like to know the
usual suspects, Yes, there's just So I'd be sitting drinking
a coffee in the morning, going if I murder you, if I move this
chess piece or whatever. And the guy Maddie from here as
well, Yeah, he I was mad having two people because you always,
sometimes you get one person from home on a show like that
and you're buzzing. You're somebody from home, but
two people. And he, so I really liked him as
well. And then I followed him on
Instagram. He does a lot of naked stuff,
yes, doesn't he? Well, if you have an arse.
Like that I get to also crack an arse.
Brilliant, but. Crack an arse so.
You like Maddie's bum? You're going to sniff Jason
Mcateer the next time you see him if you like all.
Together clothes. It's not good.
Yeah, but no, it's giving you a nice wee brand image.
But Maddie's always out in the wild, didn't he?
Just getting the arse out. Yeah, he loves that, don't they?
He loves it, but you know, and he's going to come over here and
we're going to go on a wee hike. We must take you with us and
well. Actually, I'm not bringing any
clothes. Runny nose.
But he, yeah, yeah, he. But he was he.
I think he was really good too. But I think he maybe not
overthought because I know you can't.
But no, you can. And he got his own way a bit,
didn't he? Yeah, but you know, when we were
on the tree and on the way to the castle and I heard his axe
and I thought, oh fuck, I was raging.
And not that I wanted to be the only, you know, person from
Ireland in the show, I thought it's going to raise suspicious,
suspicious behaviour or whatever suspicions people think we're
related or we know each. Other.
And all I could hear was, yeah, I work in marketing.
I was like, for God's sakes, I work in marketing.
So when we got out of the the train and I seen him and I was
like, brilliant, I don't know him.
And then Nettie and Ross knew each other and I was like, that
was the exact reason why I didn't want to know him.
And we kept saying to each other in the show, God, we must, we
must get a wee chat. We must see each other and
whatever because you're so busy. And then for a few days we
didn't get a chat. And then he says people are
going to think that we're actually avoiding each other,
right? And I'm like, well, then come
and sit beside me and have a chat.
Umm, but, uh, he was brilliant. I loved him, but he did because
you you can overthink things in there.
He wanted to be a traitor, and he wanted them to.
Seduce. Yeah.
So the crack after the show was, can't believe you didn't, you
didn't recruit me and I'm like, sorry, not sorry.
Well, he was going to throw me under the bus after he was
recruited. So yeah, it worked out in my
favour. Umm was there?
Did it ever get? What was the most tense moment
you had in there? Confessional, right?
I actually nearly wept myself on the floor.
Jesus Christ, that was horrendous.
Because if you think you're watching the show and there's
background music, we're in the dead of the night in a church,
and all you can hear is the fire crackling and you hear Harriet's
boots. Clump, clump, clump.
Rachel, I know you're in there. And I'm like, I just don't want
to go home. I actually thought at that part
and I said so. Here's why I would have slept
up. I would have went.
I'm not. I'd be.
I'd be an awful. Trader Yeah, don't do the
celebrity version. Well, we did.
I don't think it'll help me. I don't think we have that
profile. But if you're playing for Near
East City, the might. Yeah, I we did a thing like we
do like a lie. A comedy club does like a live
thing that I'm not saying they're ripping off the traders,
but it's called Touts and it's very similar.
And I played it like last year and I'd never seen the show and
I was awful at it because I was a faithful.
But I thought you were supposed to make yourself seem like
you're a traitor, right. So I was no good at it.
But I mean, I got to the last three and then I sort of fucked
it for us. And then we did it about three
months ago and the the totes had never tried the faithfuls and
never won. The totes always won.
And then me and my mate, they have won.
And it came down to I had to choose between him, Teresa
Livingston, a friend of ours and the tension I felt.
And I'd be very like relaxed on stage, but doing something like
that where like you're worried about what way you're coming
across your friends. I'm like, is he lying to me?
And the the wait for the reveal, I've never felt anything like
it. And we're just playing like a
small low key version of it and of.
People, it does. It's it's such a cliche, but
your cloak gets heavier every day and you're going, my God,
this is hard. And you can actually, if you
watch the final back whenever he turned, whenever Stephen turned
the board over and it said Jack. The way he did it.
But my shoulders just, I actually, I felt like I was just
a stone lighter and I just remember going thank God and it
was just done. And then there are like.
But he made it seem like he maybe was going to betray you a
bit. Like the way his face and all.
He wouldn't look at me and that's what he says to him
afterwards. I said you wouldn't look at me
and he says, well, you're kind of scary when you stare at
people. But we had we had made eye
contact when we were voting out Faz.
So we'd looked at each other and just went like this here.
So I no, he's a wee don't love him, but it's.
When he worked it all out. It is like usual suspects when
the cop looks at the board behind Kevin Spacey and he goes
all right, Faz goes and they go ah.
It was about Grandma done me the little shit.
Umm, So he, yeah, when Stephen turned it over and I, but I, I
was watching him write it as well, and I could see him doing
this on the board. And I thought he was writing an
L and I just thought, you're dead when we get out of here,
you're dead. And he was actually doing the
other side of the heart beside Jack, but all I could see was
the straight line going. And I was like, I so in my head,
I'm going, you've played a brilliant game.
Hold your head up high, walk out, you know, don't cry, don't
do anything. And then afterwards, chase him
down and beat shit out of him. But it was the wee heart.
And then he flipped it over. And I'm like, yeah.
So that, that feels like a lifetime ago.
But also, it was one of the weirdest moments of my life.
You know, when you're you've worked.
And we did work hard and we'd like late nights and like, it's
hard work murdering people. What time do you leave at?
I don't know. There's no watches, there's no
clocks. You're joking me.
No, I'd be awful. Telling the time, I guess in the
time. Well, we got really good at
reading the sundial in the front lawn.
Seriously. No shame.
Yeah. So would you see if they do come
knocking for the celebrity version?
I wouldn't do. It my dad, my dad's brilliant
guessing the time is he we'd be out in a walk when I was
younger. Maybe there's only happened once
in my head. I'm loads of times, but he'd go,
we get back to the car. What time you think it's going
to be? And I'd say like 8:00 and he was
4:20 and he'd be, he'd be 4 minutes out.
He's a wee watching his pocket. He's been landed, Yeah, he's
been landed. The whole.
Time. No, my dad, famously, he's never
want to watch. Famously.
Never want to watch his. Life and he also likes punching
people. Where he gets punched, Yeah, big
difference there. He gets punched.
Would you like punched with that in the stomach sometime?
I'd love to, he offers there. He would love that.
Yeah, he'd love that. Bring it on because he'd like
more high profile people to be doing it like.
Tell him I'll wear my cloak as well.
I think he's only got about 10 left I'd say before he.
Right. Well then book me in. 76 Yeah,
this might be the one to finish him.
Off I don't want to be the Latin.
Could you imagine the headlines that would ruin my reputation?
I'm going to get started. Yeah, and then they'd be like,
she has a murder board. You will go down for that big
time. Yeah, I know.
Her first real murder. Yeah.
No, just tell him, I said well. Nah.
No punch and I just said hello. Umm.
See as when you have that moment where like you've won, how long
after that before you can tell your family you able to get on
the phone 10 minutes after that or.
No, they found out in the 23rd of January.
They found out when the show went out.
They found out I won the night. So they they were in in Yuri in
the Canal court watching the show live.
Get you, get you. And they found out.
Now my husband knew I come home. And so it's funny story, I come
home. I told him I didn't win.
I rang him when I got out of the castle and the show was over and
I was like, right, I'm coming home tomorrow.
Listen, I didn't win, but it did really well.
Nobody. He'd never watched a show show.
I could have told him anything. Landed home and God loved him.
His uncle had passed away, so he was at the funeral.
You're trying not to laugh. That's awful.
I'm not. They told me you're a nice
person. So like Irish funeral.
So he was out on the drink for the day and by the time I got
home that evening he was half cut and I was like, oh, you
know, surprise. I actually did win and he went
well done Much. Did you win a nice is 47 grand
no bother to you. And then the next the next day I
had to set him. Did you remember last night?
I you won that we game, Yeah. Yeah, right.
Yeah, Duffy, I did. I won the game.
That's great. When's it on the?
When's it on the TV? Oh no, that's your second.
Yeah, his name's Duffy. Duffy, do you know what I'm
figuring out now? That you didn't go to university
for a reason. I was like, that is AI.
Don't know if that's a terrible first name or a great first.
Name Sophie Duffy. Yeah, Duffy like Duffy.
So he. You join anything to the circus.
No, no, no. Feels like it thought sometimes,
but no. What is the coolest thing you've
got to do since the show, whether it's an event or
anything? Anfield.
As like AVIP type thing, yeah. But you know what our our dad
was like the biggest supporter ever.
Travelled around with the team in the 80s and stuff, just about
made it home for my birth and his dream was for all of us to
go to Anfield. So the fact that mommy had
passed away, don't be laughing at that one.
I. Actually, I genuinely wouldn't.
You're you're a bad egg. So obviously I that's awful.
Tell you what, cancel this podcast.
This is this is done. And so mommy passed away at the
start of the year and I had put up just a lovely tribute because
we're really, really close family.
Tell that initial. And You Never Walk Alone was
played at Daddy's funeral and was played at Mommy's because it
just means a lot to the family. And I'd put it up all these
lovely pictures and Liverpool reached out and they were like,
listen, we'd love to take you over for the Liverpool Legends.
And I was like, this is the best thing ever for for the boys and
for Joe. And then we landed over and they
had said to me, would you like to meet the legends afterwards?
And I was like, crap, we're going to miss our flight.
I said, we can't. And it was the last flight of
the night. And with young kids and stuff,
we had to get home. And then I'm a big believer in
the universe will put things in your path, whatever.
And we're sitting at halftime and I looked at my phone and it
says, EasyJet, we're sorry for the disturbance, but your
flight's been delayed. And I'm like, I can't, like I
couldn't breathe. It was the excitement.
So I knew, especially my youngest brother, who's a big
fan of yours, I knew he would just be like a child and
Christmas morning. So I didn't tell them that we
had these passes. Let the game roll out.
So it's like we have to go back down to the lounge, pick up our
bags. We have to go straight to the
airport. And then Neil, we have to go, we
have to go, we're going to be late.
And I said, hang on a second. And then the girls come round
and we're like, here's your passes for the players lounge.
And I just thought this is one of the best moments ever to be
able to do that and even start and listening to you never walk
alone. The five of us were standing
with their arms around each other, just listening, going
like. And I think without me having
that personal connection, that song, even as a United fan,
yeah, I think I'd be there, like, blown away the emotion.
It's the meaning behind it and stuff.
And a beautiful, beautiful. Oh, sure, we were all, we were
all cool. We weren't crying at all.
Um, but just. And I got on to the show to make
memories. Yeah, and I just saw.
Obviously that has to change slightly because of mommy, but
it still kind of stays with the family and make those lovely
memories. So that was like that's
brilliant. So we're going back now for
their gala ball in class May. So we're we're taking the most
sensible Mullen. We're taking Darren right to go
over for that. One and you stay in the night.
We're staying the night. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No early flights. I like the idea of that.
We like just that we alert from EasyJet.
Like that was that was on. I I was a wee nudge from my dog
on here you go here you have a little bit of time.
So we went down to the players lines, but you didn't know who
was going to come in, right. So the different players were
coming in and then it was Steve McAllister come in with Steve
McAllister. Wasn't there?
No. What do you call the man Stephen
Wright? Oh, so Stephen Wright come in
and we're cracking around our boys like, oh, you know, when
they're kind of like chatting away to them and then he's I've
to get a selfie with you for my wife.
She loves the traders and they're going this is mad who
legends are, you know, know who you are whatever.
Umm, but yeah, that was definitely a highlight.
Hopefully loads more to come. Yeah umm, sorry.
And this this is a highlight. Thank you.
Your your fly like a lot. Yeah.
Like we actually nearly did this pod in London.
Remember, we're both in London the same day.
Yeah, I think we're in the same day.
Say you have a 9:00 AM flight to London.
What time you get to the airport?
At 7:00. On the dot, yeah.
For 9 flight without checking a bag in hand luggage.
That's all checked in. Hand luggage, yeah, or you are
checking a bag in. No, it's no for you get a wee,
you get a mini bag right and you're.
Checking out on the plane. Yeah, right.
But you're getting there to because Borden's going to close
at what, 820? You're going to be there at
7:00. Yeah, but you like you having a
me breakfast at the airport? No, we coffee and we people.
Watch. That's a lot.
I I like to do like So we had an
event in London last week. So our flight was at 7:00.
So we left near A3 to get there for four.
Would you not be? No.
Sorry, Dublin. No, no shorts.
It's the same. Yeah.
So we're equidistance between the two.
But it meant then see, that night we were at the event and
like the speeches and all. Listen, me and my sister and all
meant the two of us. Yeah.
We were falling asleep. So umm, yeah, I'm, I'm learning
to maybe go with the day before or whatever.
I also feel like I work for EasyJet sometimes I feel like I
should wear orange Yes when I fly because.
An orange cloak with EasyJet on it.
They love that. Wasn't that they would love that
like. #Sponsor me.
I once gave a woman an inhaler on an EasyJet flight and the
staff thought I was brilliant and I basically got like loads
of duty for anal I swear to God. Was it your inhaler or?
It was my inhaler. The lady was having an asthma
attack and I went. They went does anyone have an
inhaler my hand up and I went but don't let her mouth touch
it. I gave her it and I said just
put tell her to put her hand over.
You'd be one of these ones. If someone's like dying on the
floor and they need CPR, that you you wouldn't touch their
lips. I'd usually be funnel or
something. And if they didn't have one,
would you just let them die? I think you paused too long.
No, do you, do you think I like, do you think no, I I'd be like
emotional like I, I but yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have a care. I'm I'm a carer like.
That doesn't come across at all. Yeah, I would do like I wouldn't
want to be doing this year. I wouldn't.
I don't think I would be. I'm too laid back even in that
situation. I'd be like, we'll be fine.
Would you not be good in an emergency?
I'm just too laid back, like, Oh yeah, I can't be all right in an
emergency at times. You know, I'm pretty like, I
don't, I don't get all like, stressed.
Yeah, really ever. Which is bad, like always.
You're just, you're just a cool cat.
Just cool guy. Yeah, very cool guy.
That loves New City. Yeah, I I got to go home and
tell my brother that he has to send you a written apology.
Well, I still feel like there's enough of a family connection at
the club that time. Well, he is the chairperson, so
he could pull a couple of. Yeah, but I was, I was honestly
dismayed by that. Oh yeah.
And it was a missed opportunity for me and the club.
But what age were you then? 35.
Yeah, no, you're too old to be signed.
I I'm getting younger like they've analysed being to round
boxing and they analyse your body and they're like you're 21.
What are the feeding people down in Hollywood?
Caviar. Are you doing that salmon sperm
on your face, doing all those creams and stuff?
While quite the first time we've met each other and you're asking
me that. I know, but I feel like I know.
Yeah, so you're set. It's either a real compliment or
a real insult because you're either saying you look like
you're doing that, yeah, you're lucky, or you're going, you need
to be doing that. No.
What age are you now? Just about turned 38.
Is that only three years ago? The Liverpool Legends match. 3-4
years ago, yeah. Yeah, no, you're lucky.
That's why I was asking. Maybe you'd put in the caviar on
your face or anything. No, but it wouldn't be against
it doing all that stuff. OK.
I don't want like, I don't want work done, but I don't not want
work done. That makes sense.
I don't want like, I don't. I don't want a new house built,
but I'll take away renovation. Yeah.
Take a Conservatory.
You know they didn't know. You wouldn't do the whole like
Jenner baselift. No, because I would have.
I like, I do have a lot of like fine lines, but it's from
laughing. My face tells a story.
You enjoyed your own joke there. I was a knee slapper.
I love laughing at myself because I, I said this morning,
I don't know, I says I think this podcast is going to be like
really telling if you're funny or not.
I think I'm frigging hilarious. Yeah.
It's going to slap my knee again.
Yeah, yeah. Well, at least somebody has to
be. Well, now do you get some?
Like, do you get cool free stuff at the minute?
Yeah. What's the best free stuff
you've got? I love free stuff.
I got this T-shirt at the Blue Salmon Sperm.
I went to Blue Live. Did you?
Yep. And then they gave me a goodie
bag at the Waterfront and Ulster Hall because they're owned by
the same company. You don't need to know this.
And then I thought it was a Bluey goodie bag and I went just
for the kids and went just for you and there was an Ulster all
T-shirt and I was like, I don't know if I wear an Ulster Hall
T-shirt and then but it's a lovely fit.
And then I just. Wore it.
It's nice, yeah. But I went to Bluey Lives.
Good luck. Do you have kids ready?
No. That doesn't look wrong at all.
They're. 2124 but. Yeah, I do.
I didn't take them to Blue Life, but no, yeah, it took me kids.
That's good to know. Quick show, which was good.
Yeah, I thought it was the interval, but the show was over.
I like Bluey, I don't like Peppa Pig, I think she's very cheeky
and George is a yap. George is a yap.
Yeah, he's like my younger brother, right?
Yeah. Does he also have a dinosaur?
Yeah, it's in his back pocket right now.
Reason Pepper is a no. I don't think Pepper is that
cheeky in the grand scheme of kids like.
No. I just think Blue and Bingo are
very well behaved, even though Bingo can get a bit hyper
sometimes, they're very well behaved.
You know, the bar is set quite high.
Yeah, I like the Blue is a brilliant programme.
Yeah, I must actually ask how to get to that one though.
But yeah, freebies so. These are is there these events
you go to? Is there a wee goodie bag of
those? Oh yeah, So the Charlotte, so
the King's Trust, one that we went to Charlotte Tilbury took
us over and glammed us all and there was little pots of her
magic cream on the the table engraved in with your name on
it. Gee, this is a wee bit mad,
isn't it? But no, people are very good.
It's just, it's weird when you get, it's weird when you get
free stuff, you know, like lots of lots of face creams.
Send the my way apparently. Face creams and yeah, just
invitations to places and you're like, this is.
Does it kind of all feel like almost normal now?
What this kind of new thing of flying around doing these
things? No, it still feels like I'm
watching somebody else doing it and that it shouldn't be
happening to me. And all you did was murder
people in a game. Why are you being rewarded?
Why am I? I'm going to the Baftas next
week. No.
Yeah, and I'm like, how does a girl from Yuri end up walking
the red carpet? Now, I don't watch an awful lot
of TV, so I've been interviewed before and kind of going.
I have no idea. You can make a fortune selling
advertising on your dress like if you wore a fire tux dress
made out of paper like. The green, yes.
Yeah, because they've asked to wear something that's
sustainable or, you know, I wonder what they do.
One in a large size. I took no.
Come on. Because me, because I'm so tall.
Oh, what are you going to say? Go in the bathroom to be class
with this. Yeah.
So yeah, that's it is it's strange.
It's I don't think it's ever going to be lost.
I think the minute it's lost to me, then there's something
wrong. But it does feel like, oh crap,
what do I do? Or, you know, it doesn't feel
like it's happening to me. As a final question, say you're
going to do like a documentary or something like another TV
thing. What would you do?
Like if you aspiration do more TV type stuff, you and you and
Steve do a wee road trip thing or something.
Couldn't we? Yeah, yeah, I know People keep
saying every time I post about me and Steve and I when he's
having your own TV show or doing something together, because we
do. We could do get along really
well. I don't know.
I'm kind of open to listen. I'll give anything a try.
But I think the focus for me right now is the book.
I want a book deal and I want to get that over the line.
I'll send that to your 21 and 24 year old kids, signing a wee
copy for them. But listen, I'll never say
never, but in terms of a documentary, dysfunctional
families. Yeah, yeah.
You know, overrated football players.
Tracking Jason Mcateer could be in that.
Stalker. You don't want to Jason Mcateer
slander. I get that.
I just mean he has a yap every single time we played in these
games. He's a nightmare.
And I'm like, Jason, you're not playing the Premier League,
you're playing against me at sea View like.
Relax maybe. Maybe he felt threatened by you.
Well, he called. He called that goal offside.
Not much. We played and he was yapping at
the referee, him and Gigsy. And you've totally got over it.
Well, we watched the footage back and it was on set.
Yeah, So have you let it go? Yeah, your face is telling all
I. Didn't know is what I might need
this the salmon sperm but all all I need to know is what after
she ever uses and then I'm done I'll.
Ask him when we're in, yeah. Probably be at the bath this
one, right, You've got to go, you've got to go.
But thank this I can believe his first podcast as well.
Thank you very much for honestly for making this first podcast.
Thank you for for inviting me down.
I know I laughed though when my brother knew I was on the show.
He was like, right. Two things we need to do next
year, Anfield and Shane Todd. Yep, because obviously he does.
He generally thinks your podcast is cool.
I've started watching him a bit more and think it is very funny.
Your guests are very funny. Yeah.
No, we could have signed off on a lovely note there.
Sorry, sorry, I've really enjoyed my first podcast because
this is the best podcast in the world.
Thank you very much, Rachel. No, thank you very much for
coming down. You were.
I love the show. I think you were unbelievable
and I'm really glad you won. Me too.
Can I have some money? I'll give you E Delhi lights
coffee.