1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,320 Prime big deal days is coming October 8th and 9th, which can 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,680 lead to involuntary deal squeals like the infamous deal on a new 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,880 massager squeal. Stay big on prime big deal days 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:21,360 October 8th and 9th zippers. Welcome to this episode of the 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,920 Tea with Me podcast with me, Shane Todd. 6 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:27,200 Well, it's a wonderful day today. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,000 It's a wonderful episode. You know, we're feeling good 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,600 here. And this is an episode today 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,920 that went out on patreonpatreon.com/tea With Me 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,920 podcast. It went out well over a month 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,440 ago. And just one of the things we do 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,280 in Patreon, sometimes we get other comedians on, we do 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,240 similar episodes of the public ones, but sometimes we mix it up 14 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:54,640 with a big sexy spoon and that's what we do in this episode. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:01,120 My guest is Chris Crooks. Chris has just launched quite 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:07,680 recently a whiskey. He is made by hand, a whiskey. 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,440 It's called Dragon Claw. And this isn't like an ad. 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,120 I didn't bring him on. He's not paying me to come on 19 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,040 recently. Recently some people did ask to 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,400 come on the podcast and and it was they were offering money and 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,880 I said, no. So there you go. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,800 That's a real dance region because he's like, we could do 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,240 without money. Then you kind of do know, but I 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,400 just forgot to say. But the podcast thing, I just 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,160 said, listen, that's not what we're all about. 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,720 But it was a good bit of money, but it would have been like very 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,520 corporate. But that's not what Chris says. 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,440 And I can promise you this isn't an odd. 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,160 I just basically was driving through Hollywood High Street 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,960 one day, saw a guy driving like a Mustang and he had a big long 31 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,240 beard and sunglasses on and loads of rings on his fingers. 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,280 And I was like, I don't know what that guy does, but he needs 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,760 to come on the podcast. He's launched Dragon Claw 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Whiskey. So I'm basically someone who 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,000 doesn't know anything about whiskey and I'm trying to find 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,080 out a little bit more about it and I'm asking someone who's 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,400 made their own whiskey, how do you do it? 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Why have you done it and what are you trying to do with it? 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,600 We had so much fun on this episode. 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,840 It was really good. I think Chris will hopefully 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,720 come on the podcast again. So much fun. 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,480 So I think you'll enjoy this episode. patreon.com/TV podcast 43 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,360 if you want to see what else we do, including live streams every 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,360 Friday, bonus episode every Monday. 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,800 Before we get into it, let me just say that we are sponsored 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:34,320 by Thompson's Tea, the guys behind Panjana and you're going 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Thompson's Tea. Are they local? 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,560 Yes, but Panjana sounds very exotic. 49 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:44,680 Local Belfast History, heritage, prestige. 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,440 They're celebrating their 125th anniversary. 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,360 I mean, I don't know anything that's 125. 52 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:56,760 I don't know anyone that's 125. You know, my Auntie Kathleen 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,480 lived to be like a hundred 101 there. 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,560 And that's, that's not Thompson's 125 years making tea. 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,200 You know where you're going. Where do, where do they get 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,160 their tea from? Is it like, is it like buy and 57 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,240 sell? You know, do they get it to the 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,800 do they make, you know, do they get it in Castle Court? 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:20,880 No, they go to India to get their tea, they go to far away 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,600 places, they go to some of the best tea fields in the world and 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,760 the Thompson's family themselves taste it with a wee pinky out 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,640 and then they go either yes or no. 63 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,720 You know, Punjana, it's Northern Ireland's number one selling 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,760 tea. They sponsor the podcast. 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,600 We drink their tea on the podcast and that's just the way 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,560 it is. You don't do something for 125 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,160 years without being very good at it. 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,880 Imagine you were brutal. It's something you'd stopped in 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,360 and after about two weeks, unlike us, this podcast, you've 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,240 been there for a long time. Shout out to Thompson's Punjabi, 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,800 you know the score. Also, we're sponsored by 72 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Manscaped now, you know, for ages we've been sponsored by 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Manscaped and we appreciate that. 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 And I always talk about the lawnmower 3.0 for let's just get 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,560 right to it for shaving your pubic hair. 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,360 You know, that's what they did. It's men's below the belt grim 77 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,400 and manscape to the best that it so they you know, they had the 78 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,880 lawnmower 1, you know, a few years ago y'all, you know, then 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,880 then they bring with the lawnmower 2 and people are like, 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,880 OK, yeah, yeah. And then we've been talking for 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,800 the last while about the lawnmower 3.0. 82 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,880 You're not that you're not going to guess what they've done. 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:37,240 Who would have seen this common? It's only the lawnmower 4.0. 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,040 Holy shit, the lawnmower 4.0 What? 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Where are they going to go after this? 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,880 I think I know. Lawnmower 4.0 wireless charging 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,160 technology. Oh my God, The LED light goes on 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,680 and off. Maybe sometimes I want it on, 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,000 sometimes I want it off. Who knows? 90 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Mansky, honestly, this is when you want to move into the 21st 91 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,040 century. Below the belt. manscape.com 92 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,920 user called tea with me for 20% off and free shipping. 93 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,680 They genuinely have incredible products. 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,720 I'm a user, Dan's a user, Mike's a user, not as a person, but of 95 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Manscape products. You've got to check it out. 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,280 And Chris, my guest today, I'm going to make an assumption, you 97 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:21,400 know, very hairy facially, but I think downstairs keeps it clean, 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 but we don't know that for sure. Enjoy this episode of the Tea 99 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,040 with Me podcast with the great Chris Crooks. 100 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:33,480 Let's talk whiskey. Welcome to the podcast, 101 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,280 everyone. It's another episode of the Tea 102 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:38,040 with Me podcast. And look, this is a tea based 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,960 podcast, but there's definitely room for other drinks. 104 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,560 OK. And that's what we're doing 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,560 today. My guest is Chris Crooks, who's 106 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 the man behind Dragon Claw Whiskey. 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,440 I don't know anything about whiskey. 108 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,200 I've tried it once and me and Mike can really quickly tell 109 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,320 that story. Dan over here, big whiskey fan, 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,160 loves it, Absolutely loves it. And Christian from the podcast 111 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,160 appreciate it well. Listen, thanks for having me 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,440 along. It's sort of quite excited and 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,560 somewhat nervous at the same time. 114 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,200 I think if you're, you know, I like to think of Hollywood is 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,960 like my time, like I, it is my time. 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,800 I like to I think I know what's happening. 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,640 And a few weeks ago, whenever it was, I just heard this sound 118 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,000 driving through the streets. I was like, well, that really, 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,040 that's really pricked my ears. And then I just, I heard it 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,200 getting closer and just see this Mustang cruising through the 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,080 town and, you know, Hollywood's just full of like, you know, 122 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Range Rovers and the same kind of car over and over again. 123 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,600 I just see this guy with a beard and a Mustang sunglasses on 124 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,680 driving through the town. I was like, if you don't think 125 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,680 I'm, I'm not going to ask you to come on the podcast. 126 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 You're crazy. Like it has to I didn't even 127 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,840 know even if you like, we're talking about whiskey, even if 128 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:51,400 you didn't have a whiskey, I probably even if you just like 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,840 worked on admin, I probably just ask you the podcast. 130 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,080 I was like, I like that style. I like everything about that 131 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,080 the. Other house, I mean, I'm not 132 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Incognito, that's for sure. A lot of I sort of take it for 133 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,520 granted because it's not like a conscious effort to, you know, 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,520 to look. Yeah, no, of course, mental. 135 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,480 Essentially because they get it's not typical, but it's my 136 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,800 wife who's so rather be conservative and you know, 137 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,320 thankfully her celebrity crush was Dog the Bounty Hunter. 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 So I mean like really wrong, you know what I mean? 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,000 Mine was dog's wife for about three seasons. 140 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Start. Not so much. 141 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,840 Yeah, yeah. You got to go back to those for 142 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,720 archives to sort of find her at her best. 143 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,720 Yeah, no, no disrespect to dog, my brother and his family, but 144 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 towards the last few seasons, I didn't know which was which, him 145 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,200 and his wife. I didn't know who was who, but. 146 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 But yeah, I like the fact that I like the idea. 147 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,680 Like, yeah, I think you're totally right that like, you 148 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,160 know, this is just you and like, you're not trying to do anything 149 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,680 different. But I like to think in my head 150 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,160 that you just had like, no beer, but you had to wait until that 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,720 grew before you could launch a whiskey. 152 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,320 You're like just a couple of years. 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,800 I'm going to bring this whiskey out. 154 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,160 This is it's, it's funny because, you know, everybody 155 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,880 says I did this before it was cool, but I have a beard 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,320 because, you know, I'm not blessed with a very strong chin, 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,960 right? So I mean, when I was 15, it was 158 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,680 like, grow a beard. And it actually was really 159 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,520 annoying having a beard then. Yeah, I'd be. 160 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,720 I'd be so fucked if I had a bad chin. 161 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,280 I'd be so fucked because I can't grow a beard 32. 162 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,520 It's it's just, yeah. So I don't know, whenever you 163 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,160 used to go out, people used to pull it. 164 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Yeah, no, it's pretty normal. No, it's normal. 165 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Yeah, Yeah, yeah. It is funny, I had a really long 166 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,480 beard like this whenever I was younger, starting tattooing and 167 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,159 somewhere when I had kids, probably when I moved to 168 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:45,720 Hollywood, sort of felt like going to parent teacher meetings 169 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,000 in Hollywood primary. I should probably, you know, not 170 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,440 look mental. I want to go down. 171 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 So I was like sort of shaved the beard up and, you know, it was a 172 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,040 wee bit more conservative and then. 173 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Jumper over the shoulders. Yeah, yeah, We think Ralph 174 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Lauren one over the shoulder. And so then I just gave up a 175 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,440 lot, you know? Yeah, yeah. 176 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,160 And once people get to know you and think, oh, he's actually 177 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,080 dead on. He's not, you know, Yeah, Like 178 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,800 crazy person. Yeah. 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Yeah. And revert it back to this. 180 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,360 Weirdly, I do whiskey. And like you said, it looks like 181 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,680 it was a conscious decision to look at the party, but it's 182 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,560 purely coincidental. Yeah, I want to talk. 183 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,600 You mentioned tattoo and I want to talk to you about that as 184 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,200 well. I have a tattoo. 185 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,120 There's quite a story behind it. So yeah, we need to talk about 186 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,520 that. Yeah. 187 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Don't be afraid to just yeah, we've got it there. 188 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Love that. Love that dance. 189 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,120 A little bit of a dictator. He's just like, let's get I'm. 190 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Loaded by default, keeping it far away. 191 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,480 Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll talk about whiskey, we'll talk 192 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,560 about tattoos. I'll tell you my you've, you've 193 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:51,720 started a whiskey, like you've launched a whiskey. 194 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,840 And that that's what I want to talk about because whiskey is 195 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,800 such a big phenomenon. And I feel it's like almost like 196 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,040 whiskey is is a club. And like if you're not part of 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,480 it, it's almost like you're, you know, like looking over the like 198 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,440 when your neighbours have a BBQ. Yeah, you're trying to like 199 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,040 speak to people that are at the BBQ, trying to get a little bit 200 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,600 of some for yourself. But I think my experience with 201 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,240 whiskey was I've drunk whiskey once at Mike's house whenever we 202 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,840 were talked about the podcast before we were about 16. 203 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,560 And his mom had a bottle of do you remember what it was? 204 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,520 Bushmills. Bushmills. 205 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,040 And it was like a thin bottle, like a thin quarter bottle of 206 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,000 Bushmills. And, you know, we were like kids 207 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,240 at the time, really. And I said give me, let me see. 208 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,800 But I, I don't know what you what your experience of this 209 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:42,800 story. I can't remember it. 210 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,440 That's the point. Sitting on top of my mum's 211 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,080 fridge. We'd had a couple already. 212 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,520 You thought that you were belly big balls, necked the entire 213 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,400 quarter ball in one go and just became horizontal immediately. 214 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,960 You just fell, fell straight. And that was. 215 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Your with whiskey sort of over. There, Yeah. 216 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,880 I just can't. It's like a mental block now and 217 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,560 like show me like more of my mates. 218 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:08,160 The nod love whiskey, like they talk about whiskey a lot. 219 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,520 I think they have a separate WhatsApp group to talk about 220 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,960 whiskey. They like to go to whiskey 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,800 nights and it feels like it's really blown up in like the last 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,840 3-4 years, but is that wrong during? 223 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,600 This No, I think it has weirdly, when you said about like 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,800 whiskey's a club and if you're not and you're feeling you're 225 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,080 outside, despite the fact that I have a whiskey brand, I am 226 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,840 actually not, you know, involved with a local scene at all. 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,040 I'm just one of those people that, you know, see something 228 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,760 and thinks I wonder, can I, can I do that? 229 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Yeah, yeah. And. 230 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,200 Then just goes and finds out how to do it. 231 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Yeah. And it's sort of, you know, 232 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,000 naively and ignorantly, just not really, you know, knowing what's 233 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,320 going on in the sort of industry as such. 234 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,040 And so, like, I can totally understand that. 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,520 And it is because of that if you feel like it is something like a 236 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,920 barrier you have to breakthrough. 237 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,720 And people do sort of separate themselves. 238 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,000 I personally believe whether it's whiskey or it's anything, 239 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,120 you know, you do it to the extent that you appreciate it. 240 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,800 Doesn't matter where it's sport or what anything at all. 241 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Yeah. And as long as you're enjoying 242 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,120 it, it's really doesn't matter. Maybe as things? 243 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Yeah, it does feel like one of those things for like people 244 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 will like tell you how you have to enjoy. 245 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,640 Oh yeah, yeah. And that sort of thing. 246 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,880 So is that what you want to not do you want to just be. 247 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,320 I enjoy it whatever way you want. 248 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Yeah, I want to do. And it's sort of made to my 249 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,640 detriment. It's caused more issues with the 250 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,920 intricacies of whiskey, right? Because I was just blindly doing 251 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:33,480 it. Yeah. 252 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,640 And as you can imagine. Were you just like at the store? 253 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,480 Were you just like knocking on about yourself and like trial 254 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,080 and error is? Probably where I should have 255 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,240 like it's just me. There's a one man band does 256 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,320 everything for I probably I'm at that point in the business where 257 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,480 I should probably get a solicitor. 258 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,040 Yeah, I'm going to use the word allegedly a lot. 259 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Allegedly, I was doing that, you know, for the crack, ignorantly, 260 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,640 unknowingly, that you're not really meant to be doing that in 261 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,880 the Hollywood. Why? 262 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Say what? What? 263 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Do you mean you're not allowed to? 264 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,920 Make you're not allowed to make alcohol yourself, not spirit 265 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,440 beer. I think you're allowed to make 266 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:14,600 beer, but not not spirit. It's completely, it's completely 267 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,280 allegedly illegally. Am I stupid for not knowing? 268 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,960 No, no, no, no. Listen, I see, Your honour, this 269 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,640 is he didn't know either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 270 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,840 I'm just thinking about a signature. 271 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,400 Vogue. Yeah. 272 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:28,640 So you're not allowed to. And it's all to do with Judy. 273 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,360 So if it's because there's so much tax on it, yeah, you know, 274 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,120 it's the same. I think it's the same reason why 275 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,440 you can't use red diesel in your car. 276 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Well, it's tax different. I said here, what else do you 277 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,200 know? Tell me all your ways. 278 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Is it one of? Is it one of those things where 279 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,000 they're like the government, like, well, we're not making 280 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,400 money off this? Yes. 281 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,400 Right, Right. Right. 282 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,840 Yeah. But then yeah, like, it's 283 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,160 probably right though, for who cares what rule? 284 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,600 It's probably right for you to allegedly test off yourself, 285 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:58,800 make it yourself. Yes, of course. 286 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Me. But there are people like myself 287 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,800 who shouldn't be allowed to make things like that and give it to 288 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,200 people. Like I would fuck that up very 289 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,360 badly. But you were. 290 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,960 So you were potentially just making stuff yourself at the 291 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,920 start from where? Like a garage or something? 292 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:20,960 Yeah, yeah, class just buying green and stuff and you know why 293 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,360 not I I mean the social main nature to want to know the 294 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,240 process of things Yeah actually, not really for monetary value or 295 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,320 really funny like even marijuana. 296 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,400 You know, one time I thought I'm going to grow a marijuana plant. 297 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,760 See if that can be done you. Definitely need to solicit. 298 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Yeah, but you're like, I'm allegedly one of the biggest 299 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,640 dealers. So the way I think of it is if 300 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,640 it's, if you've seen a police officer and walked and he goes, 301 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,440 you know, I, I shoplifted 10 years ago, I don't think he's 302 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,680 going to arrest you. You've admitted to so much. 303 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,320 I've never shoplifted. I have. 304 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,880 I have boundaries. Feel like you did and I feel 305 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,560 like it was 10 I. Just realised about how many 306 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,720 people I cannot tell. I did this forecast tonight. 307 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,720 But mainly. The the the whiskey thing it is. 308 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,480 And so even though I've got a brand, I'm very narrow on my 309 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,880 appreciation for whiskeys. What I like is what I like, and 310 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,560 that's exactly what I'm into. I do, you know, through 311 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,800 necessity and wanting to broaden my tastes of, you know, other 312 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,160 things, you know, try different sort of brands, which I have 313 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,160 stuff here I'm not. You can have we try out. 314 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 But the process is the age-old, like super, you know, it's 315 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,560 probably one of the oldest processes. 316 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,280 You know, I don't know who decided to try this. 317 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they'll just get this 318 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 grain somehow make alcohol. Imagine the first drunk person. 319 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Like what? How's that? 320 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,160 It must have been an accident, but somehow it's now a stable 321 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 part of the global economy. I think when I think of, like, 322 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,600 whiskey and stuff, I think Prohibition, yeah, and that kind 323 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,440 of thing. And like how after that, like 324 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 surely when they did Prohibition, it must have made 325 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,240 booze like so popular. You know what I mean? 326 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Like how the opposite effect? And. 327 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,880 Whiskey would have been one of the main drinks, but I like the 328 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,600 history of whiskey and that kind of thing. 329 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,720 I don't know, I don't know much about it. 330 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,720 I don't like genuinely, it's through like my friends, like I 331 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,960 always what whiskey would I, I'd buy down a bottle of whiskey for 332 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,800 like a birthday or the end of a series or or something like 333 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,320 that, But I don't know. It's just, I think because the 334 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,600 first time I drank it, I was so young and in my head it's just 335 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,440 like a a mental thing. But then I was like that with 336 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,280 coffee and I like coffee. It was like the wine, and I like 337 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,800 wine girls. Girls, I think you you just have 338 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,080 valid taste for things, a lot of things in life and whiskey, it's 339 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,640 not the most palatable thing for young people to drink. 340 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,840 It's actually the only thing I ever did drink, and that by no 341 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,400 means makes me a whiskey connoisseur. 342 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,720 But like, so you mean like when like you're a teenager and you 343 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 start drinking whatever you. Yeah, straight on whiskey. 344 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Oh, it did. Yeah. 345 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,920 And this and this is how this is actually, this is one word of 346 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,600 life I used. I lived in Portadown and I went 347 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,320 to a bar. That makes sense, to be fair, of 348 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,200 course. You need coping mechanism. 349 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,160 You need something to get you off when you're 15. 350 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,960 I always take a porn like you're like an holding pattern for 351 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Hollywood. Yeah, it's like it's like prep 352 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,640 from even the Hollywood. But no, I went to a bar. 353 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,599 No, nobody in my family drank at all. 354 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,119 So my parents were missionaries and I had, you know, very. 355 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,720 I seen TV adverts and I just thought alcohol must just be 356 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,359 like, so amazing kids aren't allowed. 357 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,960 It must be the best thing ever. Yeah. 358 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,200 And I were going to, I think it was like Joel Max and pour it 359 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,400 down. I was like 16 years old when in, 360 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,400 I think the streets were at the time. 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,320 And I got asked for a paint of Cronenberg and it clearly was 362 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,720 talking about right. I just thought paint of 363 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Cronenberg. He said, we don't have that. 364 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,240 And that was me. I was all out of. 365 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,120 And then I remember the Stella Artois adverts. 366 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,960 I'm like, oh, give me a paint of Stella and just taste it. 367 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,400 And literally just spotted it was like, this is a horrible 368 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,800 thing I ever taste in my life. Yeah. 369 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,960 And the barman laughed and you know, he said, oh, you'd like 370 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,280 something sweet to give me this? What age were you this? 371 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,240 16 right, 17 maybe Drinking illegally? 372 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,520 Yeah. In a bar. 373 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,480 Again. You get the vibe here, don't 374 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,120 you? So he gave me a drink. 375 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,760 It says, oh, if you like something sweet, try that. 376 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,680 I taste it like, oh, that's phenomenal. 377 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,920 That's the best thing I've ever tasted in my life because you 378 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,320 can't drink. That's just like a girl's drink. 379 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,200 It's Malibu and like, well that's Big 5. 380 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,400 I drink Malibu like did on and off with whiskey. 381 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,680 So then I had Jack Daniels, thought this was brilliant. 382 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,440 There's a Friday, we're going out with mates getting a carry 383 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,040 out to go and hang around a park somewhere. 384 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,680 When in everybody's getting a bottle of breakfast. 385 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,840 I'm the counter. I'm like, do you have Jack 386 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,280 Daniels and the girl's like yeah, and shed down. 387 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,480 It was like book pass was like £3 Yeah and you're like 388 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,840 16/24/99. You're like what the right and 389 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,120 he had no concept of caught alcohol content or anything. 390 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:51,800 Yeah, yeah. So I've got to be small, like 391 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,120 you're talking 1/4 bottle and just was sitting drinking it 392 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,880 straight, straight. I mean, I because I didn't, you 393 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,040 knew you knew better. And I see whiskey as the thing 394 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,480 about even as an adult, if you're trying the first time you 395 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,360 taste it doesn't you're going to be you're going to notice the 396 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,680 presence of alcohol. But it's only after that that 397 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,080 you start to really like pick out the different notes and 398 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,520 different characteristics of each whiskey. 399 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,520 I mean, I wasn't thinking like that when I was 16. 16 Oh I. 400 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,400 Was just steaming. That was just panned out and 401 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,360 since then I just drank whiskey and then if you go to houses it 402 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:27,400 is normal and it's a bit of a pain because I don't drink beer. 403 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,760 I think I've had like 3-4 beers in my whole life. 404 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,920 Only tried Guinness for the first time last February. 405 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Thought in the Guinness factory it was cool. 406 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Yeah, I mean they do the whole week. 407 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,240 You'll be small when you breathe in. 408 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,400 I thought it was cool. I tried one in the Golf Club 409 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,960 like the following weekend and it was like 2 steps something. 410 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,360 I can't drink the volume that comes with lager and beers. 411 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Yeah, that that makes sense because like when you think 412 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,480 about pints, like do you think a measurement of a pint and if you 413 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,200 go and have 8 or 9 pints, like if someone told you you lost 8 414 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240 or 9 pints of blood? You can have a hard one, yeah, 415 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,880 and eight or 9 pints of whiskey's like you're not coming 416 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,200 back from. That No, no, no, no. 417 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,680 You know, if that's gone, that's over. 418 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,600 Yeah, life's over, but that's the worst. 419 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,400 Tag like that's right, silver, life's over. 420 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,640 Yeah, so, so making it was sort of my memory of whiskey. 421 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,640 And this is where you probably, I think everybody can sort of 422 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,160 agree is when you grow into someone's house and you have a 423 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,360 drink you like. If somebody offered me a beer, I 424 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,720 don't want a beer. I'm like, no, I don't drink 425 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,520 beer, sorry. I drink whiskey. 426 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,720 And then always your reaction was, oh, I think we have a 427 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,400 bottle of whiskey somewhere like one of the suppliers that. 428 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,200 It's always got to be. Yeah, At that point I'm like, Oh 429 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,240 no, this is what are they going to present? 430 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,960 And I've been over the years presented with like 431 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,400 predominantly Scotch, heavily peated, very medicinal whiskeys 432 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,600 that are just not my taste at all because I only really drink 433 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,240 bourbon. So making whiskey, I was just 434 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,920 trying to make a bourbon. You're trying to make something 435 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,080 you would like. Yesterday I would like yes very 436 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:12,400 much more sweeter tones to it and notes on made a bourbon was 437 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,120 moonshine making allegedly making moonshine. 438 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,320 How long was our process though from like experiment, whether 439 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,880 there's something like to do to really? 440 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:30,400 I'm a real like shitter get off the pock guy I know. 2022 years, 441 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:36,240 22 years studying green and, you know, agriculture and 442 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,480 distillation. It's been a it's been a long 443 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,200 slog these times. Yeah, True. 444 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,880 Oh yeah. No, it hasn't been two weeks, 445 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,160 but it's it's, I think the best thing is in life just be happens 446 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,680 so organically. I'm I'm the. 447 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,360 Best with an. Impatient guy in the world like 448 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:53,040 these two know like I'm the most impatient guy in the world. 449 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,320 So if I started something like that, it would have to be a 450 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,640 short time scale before we we got it right. 451 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I, I made beer beer with 452 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,320 friends years ago and and you know, we got all the kit to make 453 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080 it and fermented it all. I don't do from a beer. 454 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Did we? Yeah, yeah. 455 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,480 Did all that stuff, bought bottles for me, labels and it 456 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,640 was great. But when we were making it, I 457 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,000 was like, are we drinking it tonight? 458 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,080 And they're like, no, it's going to be a while. 459 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,480 So I struggle for things like that. 460 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,560 That's. Actually a pretty much very 461 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,720 similar to Megan Whiskey. This, you know, and that sort 462 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,000 of, you know, it's a distillation that really 463 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,880 separates the two and that's where you're getting you're 464 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,320 taking the alcohol out and really really just, you know, 465 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,440 just don't want to get really, really high ABV. 466 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:38,640 But the process is sort of the same for all alcohol. 467 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,760 It's just sugar, sugar and fermentation. 468 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,840 And so you did the sort of same and that's how you actually I 469 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,160 started doing it was like, if you like beer, well, let's make 470 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,760 our own. Well, let's get bottles, let's 471 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,840 stick labels on it. Look cool. 472 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,080 And then you sort of like you feel proud you put in the shelf 473 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,320 and go out. That's really cool. 474 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520 And then a sort of, they really enjoyed the creative side of it 475 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,880 and then just sort of went with it. 476 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,280 But I'm sure a lot of people in the industry think who like 477 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,360 would think where, who is this guy? 478 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,720 Where has he came? From yeah, is there like, is 479 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520 there like an industry here, like a local whiskey industry? 480 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,360 Like I can picture these guys, you know, in my head, they like 481 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,240 look a certain way. Like I think there's like some 482 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,840 sort of group that meet and I think they like they would sit 483 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,120 in a tight circle and they're talking about me. 484 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,920 There's not much room to get through. 485 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,880 Yeah. Oh, no, definitely. 486 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,200 It's there. Whiskey is sort of, I think it's 487 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,360 a bit like the Emperor's New Clothes that, you know, everyone 488 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,240 is just, they've read enough and they're disregarded what they've 489 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,200 read. And I really sometimes question 490 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,080 how much people really engage with the spirit as someone who 491 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,640 is involved at every different level with it. 492 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,480 I have. I see it from different angles. 493 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,960 You know, I sit down and enjoy whiskey. 494 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,600 I can't really enjoy it impartially sometimes because 495 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,960 it's more to it than just what's in the glass. 496 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,120 But whiskey's, there's no doubt about it. 497 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:04,880 There is like a disproportionate amount of assholes in whiskey 498 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,040 than there is an enormous society. 499 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Yeah. Do you know what I mean? 500 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,680 I just got a list of people who I can. 501 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,120 This can never be, you know, it's not like that. 502 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,880 He's going to see this. This is a private conversation. 503 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,360 Yeah, yeah, of course, of course it's a. 504 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,800 Private, but there is a local scene and you know, I think you 505 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,800 have to respect everyone that's came before you and anything but 506 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,360 the minute this detriment to your home progression, yeah, 507 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,480 it's sort of like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 508 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,600 You know, so I will just, you know, get on with it. 509 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,360 And people are ended, are ended. People aren't. 510 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,600 Maybe you know aren't. But they'll come. 511 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,640 They'll come around. Did it start off as like, like 512 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,600 I'm always into anyone that launches a product starts doing 513 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,760 a new thing? Did they start off as I'm just 514 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,360 going to do this as like a hobby or something I enjoy, or from 515 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:52,280 the outside where you're like, no, I'm going to make a whiskey, 516 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,760 I'm going to get it at the shops and I'm going to start selling 517 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,480 it. Purely a hobby right? 518 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Probably social media had a had a part to play on that because I 519 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,400 was sharing stuff. This is a shoe which I can under 520 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,240 was I was sharing the process on Instagram on my tattoo page, 521 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,960 which is sort of a quite a big follow on. 522 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,200 And people started messaging me saying, oh, I'd love to buy your 523 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,400 whiskey, right, because people don't really read, but like they 524 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,200 look at stuff on social media and the fill in the blanks. 525 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Yeah, yeah, when oh, he's making whiskey, he's got. 526 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,360 And so I thought, OK, this is this actually people want to buy 527 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,440 this. And then I started looking at it 528 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,440 and that's when it was basically 10 crap. 529 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Not only can I not sell this, I shouldn't even be making. 530 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,240 This right, right. Right. 531 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,000 So allegedly and then I decided to go in and proof distilleries 532 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,680 and and work together with distilleries to make it like a 533 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 legitimate prop product that could be marketed. 534 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,320 And the marketing side is is absolutely, it's so fun because 535 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,240 it's maybe. Brilliant. 536 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,880 Thank you. It comes from zero. 537 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,960 It's just. Doesn't look forced at all, it 538 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 just looks really, really good. Look, no, that's cool. 539 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,920 Thank you. But yeah, I mean, if you if you 540 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,080 know, you said you shouldn't have done it, like if you did 541 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,920 end up in gaol and then people were like, why you in and you 542 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,640 say moonshine, that's maybe the coolest reason you could ever go 543 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760 to gaol. I'm screwed if I go to gaol. 544 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,920 And no, not literally. I probably won't be screwed 545 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600 because I've got 2 very, very good skill sets that are really, 546 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,640 really popular in gaol. I can do tattoos and I can make 547 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,760 alcohol all right. I mean like I'll be wrong. 548 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:27,320 Something else? I don't know if I'm skilled in 549 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,280 those particular areas, too much facial hair for that. 550 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040 I mean, you say if I'd be as good as you went to gaol if I 551 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040 went. Yeah, different. 552 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,720 You'd be like, go beer. No, I, I just have to, I go the 553 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,360 other way. I would let on. 554 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,440 I was a lot more mental and I was so I'd walk. 555 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,600 You know, when someone's just supremely confident and you're 556 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,560 like, there's something, I just walk straight in. 557 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,360 Put 50P down the pool table and just stand yeah? 558 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,080 Just stand. People. 559 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,880 And then when it came my turn, I wouldn't play. 560 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,560 Yeah, just call their bluff. Yeah, let's, let's hope that's. 561 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,560 No. I I mean, obviously whenever I 562 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,400 think that scenario, a little bit of sweat trickles out in my 563 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,000 back. Yeah. 564 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Because, you know, yeah, I don't think I'm ready. 565 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,080 It was a swore a of if that's the great word for it of, you 566 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,160 know, you know, doing this and enjoying it and making it. 567 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,280 And ironically, probably because the equipment they had wasn't 568 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,920 that good. I never really got the ABV up to 569 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,320 a point where I think it would be even classified as a spirit, 570 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,600 right. So that's my get out of gaol 571 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,240 free card. It looked the part. 572 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,400 It's like somebody who thinks they're going weed and actually 573 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040 they're going tomato plants and they're freaking out, hiding 574 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,680 them, and then one day a tomato pops up. 575 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,800 They're like. I looked at. 576 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,960 That time there was me thinking I was growing marijuana. 577 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,120 Frigging tomato. I looked like the sort of guy 578 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,520 that would definitely buy what I thought was marijuana and a big 579 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,560 tomato, and I would smoke it and be spaced out. 580 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,280 No, maybe. Really. 581 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,160 That's tomato. Yeah. 582 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,840 I was that guy in school, you know, Oxo Cube. 583 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,960 I'm stoned here, you know. Yeah. 584 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,280 I mean, I've never heard of that, but I can, I can fill in 585 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,640 the I can figure out what the Oxo cube was sort of, you know, 586 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,680 emulating so you don't drink whiskey or. 587 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,760 No, no, I'm like with booze. I kind of. 588 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,280 I've always enjoyed beer. No, there was nothing. 589 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,080 I was. I like Guinness, love Guinness. 590 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,880 I was on antibiotics for about 10 days there because I recently 591 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,640 got circumcised. That obviously won't chat you 592 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680 with Doug. Yeah, no problem, I'm an open 593 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,680 book. Literally a lot more open now. 594 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:41,560 First few chapters were missing, but but yeah, so I, I, so I, I, 595 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,360 I'm not really a drinker. Like I'd nearly same people, but 596 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,760 then I'm not because I do have the odd drinks. 597 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,760 OK. I'm not the total. 598 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,640 But what I mean is if you said how many times, you know, say 599 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,840 you're doing a questionnaire, how many times a week do you 600 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,000 drink? I've been like, none really. 601 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Yeah, it's only the odd occasion. 602 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,120 And I used to like Guinness would be my drink, but then I've 603 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,840 had two or three. Then I don't really want 604 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Guinness anymore. Like gin for a while. 605 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Big fan of gin and lemonade with loads ice. 606 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,520 Yeah, like that and but there's just nothing that I'm like I 607 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,160 take a cup of tea or like a glass of water over over more 608 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,880 stuff. Yeah, I just the if I'm away on 609 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,720 holiday or. Mention. 610 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,920 That's obviously a much better life choice. 611 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Yeah, I just don't. But what I'm saying is the 10 612 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,800 days was on antibiotics when they in not ten days, the doctor 613 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,440 goes, listen, you've been circumcised, you take these 614 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760 antibiotics, you go all antibiotics. 615 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Doctors say you can't drink on these, but most of them you kind 616 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,840 that it won't do any harm. He's like these ones don't drink 617 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,160 on these 100% don't drink on these. 618 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,920 But those 10 days I wanted a drink every every day. 619 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,480 I was like, I would love a drink just because I couldn't, so I 620 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,640 had. A prohibition, essentially. 621 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I had a Guinness couple of 622 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,400 days ago and it was, it was great. 623 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,880 So I've never, I've just not, I've never really found a drink 624 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,160 where I'm like, I specifically want that drink. 625 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,840 I like it when you're in the right environment and you want 626 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,360 to have a pint or whatever, but yeah, whiskey's just. 627 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,720 I've always felt too young for it even though I've so many 628 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040 mates younger than me as well but love it. 629 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,040 I think whiskey could be that drink. 630 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,960 I mean, I mean, it's quite likely. 631 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,200 I just don't think, I don't think I'd be taken seriously 632 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560 sitting with a glass I. Don't think you can be taken 633 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,920 seriously ever again if you're very honest because 99% of 634 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,880 people that are exposed, yes, it's obviously comedy. 635 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everything we're just going 636 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,560 to think is this is, this actually is. 637 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Yeah, people will be out. What's the sketch? 638 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,760 Yeah, we're not going to borrow no camera. 639 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,840 No, I like whiskey. I know. 640 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,000 But I know what? What? 641 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,000 What did you want to ask me about circumcision? 642 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Because, I mean, that's my. Yeah. 643 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,880 So it's it's funny and obviously I don't know what this is. 644 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,000 I was obviously watching podcast and whatnot, you two other guys 645 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640 on and I came up and you're talking about you have crumbs. 646 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,800 Is that OK to talk about? Yeah. 647 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,240 Oh yeah. Yeah, so first thing, because I 648 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920 knew I was bringing alcohol, I got my phone and googled like, 649 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,520 can you drink whiskey if you have crumbs? 650 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,880 And what you find a cure is it. Yeah, yeah. 651 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520 I need to read out, it said, you know, it's OK to find, it's OK 652 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,680 to drink. You know, occasionally, 653 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960 especially on birthdays, on special occasions. 654 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Can you have seasonal crumbs? It's actually. 655 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Why take a week off and then of? Course, I went down a rabbit 656 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,000 hole and then so funny and I'm going to jump the gun here like 657 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,400 the circumstances got none through the Crohn's. 658 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,520 It does. Oh, it does. 659 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,640 It's an inflammation thing. Because that came across that 660 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,160 and then I was thinking is that way. 661 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Yeah, although once you get circumcised, so many people just 662 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600 pop up that, you know, and go, yeah, I got circumcised and 663 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,960 you're like, I never would have known. 664 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,120 Yeah, you know, like quite a few people, like gods are get 665 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360 circumcised. Well, I had a vasectomy last 666 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,640 year. I mean, I feel lightweight. 667 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,480 I got a vasectomy. Yeah, yeah, I got. 668 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,280 Tuned. I had a vasectomy before the 669 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,600 circumcision as a warm up and then got it reversed just that 670 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,440 like, you know, Galva practical. I didn't. 671 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,560 But the circumcision, the only the only bad bit of it was the 672 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,080 injections the moment because I stayed awake for it. 673 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,440 Yeah, you know, that was the the injections were the were the 674 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,840 worst bit. I didn't feel anything. 675 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Yeah, I didn't feel anything. And you know, you're conscious 676 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:25,320 of, I always say every day is a different deck day size wise. 677 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,360 Oh yeah. That's why there's, you know, 678 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,640 the myth of people who are like, yeah, my, my deck's 7 inches. 679 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,120 My, you know, it's specific. And it's like based on climate, 680 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 yes, mood, environment, all these things. 681 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,240 It can be. You never know what you're 682 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120 waking up. Some morning you're like, Oh no, 683 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600 some. Yeah, yeah. 684 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,720 So you need more to surgery? Yeah, but when you're, when 685 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:54,320 you're in a brightly lit room with like 7 nurses, a doctor and 686 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,280 you're, you're nervous, you just, you don't know how you're 687 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,240 representing yourself. And chances are like, I know it 688 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,080 wasn't a good day for me that way. 689 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,160 So that was what I was most worried about that in the 690 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,960 injections. The actual thing was fine. 691 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280 And I can still see the stitches, but they're like 692 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,000 nearly gone. And it's definitely like, it's 693 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480 like, you know, when you get a haircut, but you get the Barber 694 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,520 took too much off and you're looking at it going, this isn't 695 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,760 what I wanted, but this might look cool eventually. 696 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,240 It's like that. It grew back. 697 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160 It grew back. It's like I just, I had hair 698 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,360 like. Having your eyelid removed. 699 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,320 And you're like, hey, I've never felt I. 700 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,200 Really. Yeah. 701 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,080 No respite whatsoever. But then after a while you're 702 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,600 like, this is this is maybe better. 703 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,440 It's the equivalent of you going in and asking for like a couple 704 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760 inches off your hair and getting A1 all over. 705 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,360 You're looking at it going, well, this is drastic, but this 706 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,160 might be a new look for me. Yeah. 707 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,000 I just I. Mean, I think most of the things 708 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,520 with circumcision, you know, you it's tidbits of from comedy 709 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,520 movies. Yeah. 710 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,320 I always think of that one in France where Joey goes for an 711 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,760 interview and he puts a bit of harm, like, I mean, and you 712 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 don't sit down at school and talk to you about this stuff. 713 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,679 They just sort of like, brush over it. 714 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,480 And then TV fills in the gaps and you're like, yeah, yeah. 715 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,719 And you sort of like, oh, that's what it is. 716 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,840 But weirdly my kids are the only boys in our family aren't 717 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,639 circumcised. Oh yeah, yeah. 718 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,120 Why? Well, for because my sister. 719 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,159 Was married to an American and they're in America, so that's. 720 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,199 Certainly love it their. Number thing yeah, they love it. 721 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,120 And then we also just married to a Nigerian and for their 722 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,600 circumcised. So weirdly my kids at the pool 723 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,920 with all their cousins are sort of like like. 724 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,960 They're showing also. They're showing also. 725 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,880 Extra purchase. Yeah, Guinness huge in Nigeria, 726 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,880 Huge. Yeah, this is funny that I was 727 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,440 chatting to a guy yesterday who works for Guinness Diageo, and 728 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,520 he mixes it up and it's not only huge in Nigeria, they make a 729 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,600 stronger version of it. Oh yeah, things like 9%. 730 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,360 Plus there. You go. 731 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,280 Yeah. The thing obviously with 732 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400 structure position is if you need to get it, get it. 733 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,360 Don't get it just for yeah. For streamline this or. 734 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Not yeah, it's not going to help. 735 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,080 I mean, I'm must actually run fast and see if I'm taking any 736 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,840 time off. But but look, yeah, it's just 737 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,920 something. I think it helped you run 738 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400 extremely fast with an erection into the wind. 739 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,040 Yeah. Because it'll just, whereas 740 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,240 Zelda was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 741 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,440 Like an open umbrella. Like run away. 742 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,080 Like the open umbrella into the wind. 743 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,280 Was it in Hollywood? You can do in Portadine, yeah. 744 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,880 Yeah. Well, you can do it in Portadine 745 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960 and that's pretty fine. That's just the truth there, you 746 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,680 know? Yeah. 747 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,400 Yeah. You never thought about kidney 748 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,480 though. No, no, no. 749 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,760 I mean, it's it's, it is literally that. 750 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,200 Because where do you go once you've like, you know, you've 751 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,640 dabbled in a bit of moonshine, making room, whiskey, you do it, 752 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,760 you launch it. I think the next step is. 753 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,080 Well, the natural progression would be then to do it do 754 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040 circumcisions. Tattoos. 755 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,280 Training circumcisions. Actually, it was all right, open 756 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,600 the we surgery in Hollywood and just started doing some 757 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,680 precautions. Yeah. 758 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,320 No, it's, I mean, obviously if you have to get, you have to get 759 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,280 it. Yeah. 760 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,160 It's, I mean, I'm talking, I'm sure that was. 761 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,440 So yeah, like like people, people said when they heard how 762 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640 much it was like money wise. So people were like oh, flip 763 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,720 like like you need to get that. I'm like, I'm not getting it out 764 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,800 of choice. Yeah, I've not got the 32. 765 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,800 When? Oh, what do I need to really 766 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,280 spice up my life for the minute? Unless foreskin. 767 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,120 But look, it's done. I think I'm Jewish. 768 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,040 How much is it? I don't know. 769 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680 To get them. John, how much? 770 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:41,880 How much do you think a circumcision would cost? 771 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Pay roughly what I paid. 2 grand. 772 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,680 Yeah, just over. Was it. 773 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,960 Yeah, it's a sort of thing like is it, is it £400? 774 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,960 Yeah, exactly. Grand. 775 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,360 I don't know. I was figuring out like the 776 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,960 vasectomy. I was thinking, well, it's sort. 777 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,040 Of I think it normally is 500. Quid and all, you're definitely 778 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,280 leaving. You leave it with less. 779 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,000 Do you get to keep a bit? I donated it to youth charity. 780 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,280 The raffle off for No, I think it normally costs £500. 781 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,560 I paid 2 grand because I do it based on size. 782 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:19,440 Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was it was a bit of 783 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:25,560 crack whiskey. I love, I love high passion. 784 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,520 People I know are about it, but I don't know why. 785 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,560 I've never, I've never gone into. 786 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,920 So the last time you drank was that Bushmills incident? 787 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,400 Would have been would. Have been that's the last made 788 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,920 whiskey. Yeah, right. 789 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,040 Well, do you want to do you want to trace? 790 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,200 You don't have to drink too much of it. 791 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:42,760 I'll just do a little sip, can I? 792 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,280 I brought a couple of things. OK, is. 793 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,360 That all right. How funny would it be if you 794 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,480 took my foreskin out of that bag? 795 00:37:54,040 --> 00:38:03,960 Yes, like this is your life. You. 796 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,240 Play poker. No, like, look at me that part. 797 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:11,080 Look at me. I play Jack, I play, I play 798 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,520 snap. You play poker. 799 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,800 Yeah, there's T-shirts. Oh, thanks so much. 800 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,880 You just need to put on loads of weird. 801 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,560 Wear this in the podcast. What size is it? 802 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920 Medium, but you look like it could be a small. 803 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,400 What in the best possible way? I think that's a compliment 804 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,880 because I'm fat. So they said, hey, well, you 805 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,360 look like a small. Do you know what to say? 806 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,320 I'm deceptively like a bigger boy than people think and I'm 807 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,800 virgin on large. By the end of this year, I'll be 808 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,520 wearing large T-shirts. All right, OK, cool. 809 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,360 I never take height in the equation. 810 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,680 I just sort of look at people's girth. 811 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,840 But obviously if you're taller. Have more of them. 812 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,320 Yeah, it's impossible not to bring this back to penises. 813 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200 Yeah. So this is, I'll tell you a wee 814 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,280 bit about the process of making it. 815 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640 You can, if you want to open their glasses, by the way, in 816 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,480 the boxes. So whiskey has this is in 817 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,160 layman's terms. Please. 818 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,120 I think that's the best of. Two stages. 819 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000 First of all, making the spirit, which is what this is. 820 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,440 Yeah, that's actually whiskey. Well, I know it's not 821 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,320 technically whiskey. And then what you do with that 822 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,880 spirit in barrels and that's the ageing process and maturation. 823 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,680 So when you see whiskey, it's, you know, or dark brown, 824 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:27,640 whatever. That's really the 825 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,600 characteristics of the wood and the oak. 826 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,640 So. It actually goes in like this 827 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,120 now it starts off with just green and in a commercial 828 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,840 setting you would have like large vats and you put in 829 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,480 different grains depend on the recipe this is made from. 830 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,080 Because it's bourbon, it's predominantly corn. 831 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,840 Most whiskeys like in Ireland or Scotland are predominantly malt. 832 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,320 So this is corn ray and all those things. 833 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,480 And you cook that up to like a porridge. 834 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,600 You can actually eat this and there's no alcohol at this 835 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,280 point. It doesn't taste as nice as 836 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,160 porridge. And then you strain that off and 837 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,680 that wash you put the add yeast to and it's always breaking 838 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,000 down, converting the sugars to alcohol. 839 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,640 You get a low beer and that's sort of similar to the what you 840 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,840 were done with the beer, I'm guessing. 841 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,640 And then that goes through the first stage of distillation and 842 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,520 it brings it up to like, I don't know, 10, no, probably 20% ABV. 843 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,560 Then it's distilled again and the pot still and it brings it 844 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,440 up to the 70 percent 6570. And that's your sort of what it 845 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,800 goes usually into the Caska. I think I could be wrong. 846 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,320 It could be watered down prior to the cask. 847 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,400 I'm not too sure. Right. 848 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,200 I'm, I think that's done after the fact. 849 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,160 That's something a little bit different. 850 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:49,920 I know this is around 65%. You can taste this like it is 851 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,040 mean. I should probably I'll go in 852 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,840 reverse, OK, you, you, you, you, you. 853 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160 I'll start with the low stuff because after that you were 854 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,240 like, I'm out, OK? I'm having nothing more to do 855 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,880 with this. So I've actually brought a 856 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,520 couple of samples of things. These are conventional samples. 857 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,600 If you get into whiskey, there's loads of different clubs 858 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,760 worldwide you can join, get a few E samples. 859 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560 And it's a good way of like tasting different whiskeys 860 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,920 without committing to going in and off licence, seeing the 861 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,880 shelf and going, where do I even start? 862 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,800 And I actually have here the tasting notes, the exit 863 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920 commentation notes. This is how this is the you 864 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,800 wouldn't have this 20 years ago. No, no, maybe even 10 years ago. 865 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,960 And I just brought these because I'm going to leave these with 866 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,560 you and you can sort of try these out over time. 867 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,760 This one's a Japanese whiskey. You say I tried to do it 868 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,040 overtime. Donald, taste this. 869 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:35,400 Taste these all. Oh yeah, you. 870 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:41,680 Can pour a wee bit into that. This is a bit like a game show, 871 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,880 isn't it? Get my cards out. 872 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,960 Yeah. I mean, OK, well, a wee bit 873 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,560 more. That's grand. 874 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,000 I Do you feel like I'm on a game show here. 875 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,760 Did I touch this yet? Do you touch it? 876 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,720 Yeah. So this is is this the So take a 877 00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:02,360 week. You can taste. 878 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,080 We take a week so. Normally, although again, it's a 879 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160 psychological thing, I'll smell whiskey. 880 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,240 Yes, 100%. Do that, but that's not. 881 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,160 No, yeah, get a nose off it. Some people allowed water or 882 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,000 ice, That's perfectly fine. And some people be like, we 883 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000 can't be doing that. Do whatever you need to do to 884 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,240 enjoy it. And you can tell me what do you 885 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,320 think is smell with that, particularly whiskey? 886 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,280 Childhood. The top of the fridge. 887 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,960 I smell fuck I feel under so much pressure to get this. 888 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,880 Right. Oh, you don't listen. 889 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,160 It wasn't like you're drunk. You can say anything. 890 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,640 Vanilla. Yes. 891 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,720 Yes, yes. Oh yeah, yeah, I would know. 892 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:54,200 More whiskeys, like one glass of the sand. 893 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,040 Yeah, in the, in the in the nice group. 894 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,080 You want me to ready me to try? Yeah, try out there. 895 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,760 Yeah, now you first of all, you're going to, you're going to 896 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,920 feel whiskey. There's no way about that. 897 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,240 Alcohol is going to sort of fill your mouth. 898 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,320 But after we second, if you sort of roll your tongue around, 899 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,960 you'll start to really taste some character. 900 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,080 Also remember it's 11:00 in the morning and it is quite an 901 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,360 overwhelming thing to be doing just right in the middle of the. 902 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,520 Day I'm driving a school bus in half an hour. 903 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,680 So what do you what do you think? 904 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:31,080 I thought it was going to burn a lot more but it didn't and I 905 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,600 think it made my mouse feel nice and warm. 906 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160 Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, it's ground. 907 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,280 That's a really nice whiskey. Yeah, Japanese whiskey. 908 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,240 It's I would. I like it a lot. 909 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,800 It feels light. Yeah, it is. 910 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,120 And you can even see that in the coloration of it there. 911 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,000 Yeah, it is quite a, it is quite a young whiskey. 912 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,680 And you can actually see here the difference in the colour 913 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,800 there. This one's darker and this is 914 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,800 because this is an older bases in the cask longer, right? 915 00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:06,440 And to give you an idea that's there's actually a stave off a 916 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,160 cask. So that's one of the things out 917 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,960 of the barrel and you can see it's charred on the inside. 918 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,280 So the char of the wood really just sort of bring out the 919 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,880 tannins and the cat sort of caramel lace. 920 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,360 Smell that It doesn't smell like. 921 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,840 Anything. No, it usually would. 922 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,360 That ones been sitting out quite a while. 923 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,480 Yeah, I smelled this morning. I was actually hoping to go. 924 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,440 You smell that? Yeah. 925 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,000 No, it's not like it's been landing the garage for six 926 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,160 months. Again, like the. 927 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,720 Smells like Castro G. The tomato in the marijuana, you 928 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,000 could have told me that smell like anything. 929 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,280 And I go, it does. It does. 930 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,840 Yeah, it could have said on that. 931 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,680 So then I'll let you taste this. You can take these with you and 932 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,840 the taste of notes and you can sort of have a wee. 933 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,440 Does that matter that there's a bit of that in the bottom of 934 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:46,960 this? No. 935 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,560 Not really, no. I love that. 936 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,480 Yeah, I love that. I think whiskey, like whiskey 937 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160 people would be like, no, no, that's got to be Washington. 938 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,000 100% wash. That's got to be water to 939 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,800 cleanse your pal. It's got to be driven the the 940 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,400 the Ballymena, you know what I mean and touched by this, but. 941 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,480 Yeah, so poor bit. No Bermain, this is 20 by 25% 942 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680 stronger. It is what they call new make or 943 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,320 a new spirit. You are going to taste alcohol. 944 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,040 You're going to die. No, and probably a bit harder 945 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,720 after the first one to find those flavours. 946 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,920 Yeah, but if you know after that initial. 947 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,840 If I get this right of what I think this smells like, there's 948 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,520 a huge victory. Yeah, I've got it. 949 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,960 I have. I have a gift. 950 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:39,800 Go tell you. Go cinnamon. 951 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Well, yeah, that's the ray. So you're getting like a Spacey 952 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,440 that's I mean that would I would find that with Ray green, I 953 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,440 would get a sort of Spacey warm. Yeah, just a guy that knows his 954 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,320 whiskey. It's actually pretty good you 955 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,200 picked it up because it only crunched over 20% of the green 956 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,680 in that. Yeah, but it's enough just to 957 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,520 give that we sort of Spacey notes. 958 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,800 So I'm amazed that I didn't. I think part of it is with a 959 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,920 spirit like that, if I think about it too much, I'll drink it 960 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,360 and then do a big at the end. Yeah, but with that, I was going 961 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,920 through that. Then I didn't feel a need to. 962 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,960 It's not this mental that tastes warmer. 963 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,120 Like hotter? Oh yeah, that than the other one 964 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,880 because it is about 6465%. So it is that's the alcohol. 965 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:42,920 But the fact. That it's not me if we do that, 966 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440 you know, at the end. Yeah, I normally thought I 967 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,840 would. Yeah, I think most of that is 968 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,960 down to people's childhood memory of whiskey, because it's 969 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,160 not childhood memory. But when you're younger, your 970 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,640 first introduction to whiskey, it's not like it's usually not a 971 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,800 pleasant one. It's like, either you knock a 972 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,560 bottle of Scotch out of your ground. 973 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,240 Yeah, sneaking in or whatever. I was like, well, you know, 974 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,800 where as you get older, you're much on a surround. 975 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,400 You're ready for it. You know, you're a bit more, 976 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,480 Your taste buds are matured. And it's usually a choice. 977 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,560 Like you're choosing it other than like it's the only thing in 978 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,600 the cupboard and you need to get steamen before you watch 979 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,440 somewhere. I am Steam. 980 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,160 And I'm fine. No, with that, no, it is, that's 981 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,560 a, it is for me. It's a massive learning process. 982 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,800 If you talk, if you see any whiskey talks, it's usually 983 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080 either their market and person will talk, their distiller will 984 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,760 talk and it's a very, very in depth, you know, conversation 985 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,760 about the brand. Yeah, because like it's like 986 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,120 when they do like a new Apple product and you've got the main 987 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,360 guy from Apple, they're talking about it. 988 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,600 I'd be way more interested in someone that designed or made it 989 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,720 talking, talking me through it. Dan, you, you, do you have any 990 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:52,840 questions you want to ask? Anything? 991 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,280 So you said Dragon Ball is sort of based on Gordon. 992 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,840 Yeah, Yeah. What's the difference of bourbon 993 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840 is different to like Scotch or Irish with traditional Irish 994 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,920 whiskies? Two things would be the green 995 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,120 that's used. So for bourbon, it's 996 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:14,160 predominantly corn, which is in by nature sweeter where and it's 997 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,240 sort of thought less of the Scotch single malts tend to be 998 00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:22,560 like more sort of sought after because of the grain. 999 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,680 It's sweeter, but also the barrels themselves. 1000 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,160 Bourbon use only New York and that's actually part of the 1001 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:32,200 legislation in America. It's got to be New York. 1002 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,240 So you're getting lots of those characteristics off the wood. 1003 00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:40,120 Irish whiskey and I think some Scotch as well. 1004 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,480 They bring those used bourbon barrels and then they use those. 1005 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,480 So that's why you get a lighter colour because really a lot of 1006 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,280 that strength has been taken out of the wood. 1007 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,840 So some people would say that bourbon isn't as complex because 1008 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,960 it's getting like a real like a tea bag, you know, like it's, 1009 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,600 it's too maybe just too strong. I don't get that. 1010 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,200 I just love, I have a sweet tooth and I'm always drawn to 1011 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,200 drinking bourbon or any American whiskey for that matter. 1012 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,520 But there's a lot of different whiskeys, Irish whiskeys that 1013 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,600 can be aged in old Sherry casks. And of course that's going to 1014 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,600 make it darker and give it a really sweeter. 1015 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,920 Right now there's so much experimental stuff going on. 1016 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,560 You know, it's not just straight up, you know, bourbon, Irish 1017 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,160 whiskey, Japanese Scotch, so many different brands are 1018 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,680 experimenting with a wide range of casks and moving them around 1019 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,880 like maybe do two years in a Sherry and then finishing the 1020 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,880 final six months in a port or an old rum barrel. 1021 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,440 So you're getting the water is muddied in the best possible 1022 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,360 way. There's such a vast spectrum now 1023 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,960 of different types of whiskeys. Now I'm only like at the tip of 1024 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,760 the iceberg because I only drink bourbon. 1025 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,560 I've drank bourbon for like 20 years. 1026 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,400 That's sort of what I know. But I, you know, there's 1027 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,960 whiskeys I taste now and they don't remind me of what I 1028 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,080 remember Scotch being like because I was always exposed to 1029 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,200 the same Scotch, a very sort of traditional 21 year old, like an 1030 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,920 older Scotch, you know. But it is a rabbit hole. 1031 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,800 And I think that's why people get into it and start clubs, 1032 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,160 because it's not as simple. Turn up with a bottle of Jamison 1033 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,200 and sit and drink it. You know, it is a much, it is, 1034 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,400 it is. It's a real and long term hobby 1035 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,800 and there's no end to it, you know? 1036 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaking of long term, like launching a whiskey, you know, 1037 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560 traditionally people be like maybe it takes this long to get 1038 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,240 in the shops, takes this long to expand this and that. 1039 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,680 Do you are you just sort of seeing how it goes or do you got 1040 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,760 like a defined plan of like want to expand it in America, that 1041 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,960 kind of thing? Yeah, I mean, definitely at the 1042 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,200 minute with this first release, there was 248 bottles. 1043 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,240 I think they're nearly all sold out and there went everywhere 1044 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,840 some went. So, you know, and this is for 1045 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,080 social media plays into this because, you know, 10 years ago 1046 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,520 you wouldn't have known where they were going. 1047 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,640 Now you've got people who are ordering them online. 1048 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,320 They're in America, Australia. And that's, you know, that feels 1049 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,000 really good that somebody in America has actually ordered a 1050 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,720 bottle of your whiskey, especially because it is such a 1051 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:18,040 new brand and it's expensive, like it's really expensive for a 1052 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,840 first release that no one knows about. 1053 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,680 So I think, you know, long term it's just about making more of 1054 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,600 it and getting more exposure. I've been fortunate that I have 1055 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,680 just relationships as a drinker in certain places where when you 1056 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040 tell people all I'm doing this, they're just really want to 1057 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,280 support it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1058 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,560 Because not only is it local, but they're meeting the face of 1059 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,520 it. You know, if you think of big, 1060 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,160 large brands is very. You're not going to meet the guy 1061 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:45,840 that actually founded it. Yeah. 1062 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,640 Yeah. And you? 1063 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,760 Know or it's. It exactly, yeah. 1064 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,560 And it's just me and, you know, sooner or later that'll that 1065 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,280 will change. But I enjoy the process, you 1066 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,240 know, just like I'm learning as it goes. 1067 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,440 Well, I'm sure some people could watch what I've talked about 1068 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,880 whiskey. Like I have a clue what he's 1069 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:02,400 talking. About. 1070 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,600 Yeah, but I'm not that worried. But it's like comedy. 1071 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,280 It's like I see comedy in a way that another comedian won't, and 1072 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,920 vice versa. Like we all have a different, 1073 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,880 like some people are hugely into the history of comedy in and the 1074 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,560 formula of it. I like the history of it. 1075 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,280 I am interested a bit in formula, but I don't subscribe 1076 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,200 to do a lot of different things, you know. 1077 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,040 So I want to ask you just finally about tattoos as well. 1078 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,160 So that's what you have been doing and what your your huge 1079 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,160 Instagram page doing. Tattoos. 1080 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,640 Tattooing is that's who I am first and foremost. 1081 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,480 I'm a tattooist who makes whiskey and the two worlds you 1082 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,240 would think are quite similar, but they're actually very, very 1083 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,680 different. Whiskey's a lot more 1084 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,400 conservative because it is a quick corporate culture tattoo 1085 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,840 and couldn't be any further from that. 1086 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,600 But umm, yeah. Tattooing for me is it has 1087 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,480 helped the whiskey with having that platform and a sort of 1088 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,680 global clan base. I thought it would have helped. 1089 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,440 It wasn't wasn't relying on it and I thought it would have 1090 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,760 transitioned more, but actually it didn't because just like you 1091 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,520 know, yourself, you're saying I'm having not really that know 1092 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,800 much of whiskey that has the same in the world over. 1093 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,240 People are intimidated by whiskey. 1094 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,120 So even though I thought the two were quite the go hand in hand, 1095 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,720 you know, alcohol and tattooing, but they don't they don't 1096 00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:25,200 actually go hand. But as far as tattooing lockdown 1097 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,720 like sort of knocked out in his head, Yeah. 1098 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,040 Yeah, about 60% of my customers would fly in and at the minute 1099 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,320 there's no international flights. 1100 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,560 What's the where's the furthest someone's come from? 1101 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,720 Oh, you, Fiji. Someone came from Fiji to get. 1102 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,000 It no, I say, I only say a Fiji because not only is it far away, 1103 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,280 it's, it's just weird. It's just very, very, very 1104 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,440 small. There's no Fiji to Aldergrove 1105 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,800 flight. No, there's certainly not. 1106 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,320 No, no. But there's people that gets 1107 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,120 South America, Argentina, Sydney. 1108 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,760 Any well known people like anyone? 1109 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:04,480 Yeah, I don't have too many celebrities because celebrities 1110 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,080 don't really want to wait and you get emails from agents, 1111 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,000 right? Right. 1112 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,920 And because I only do Japanese. Japanese. 1113 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,560 Celebrities. Yeah, Japanese celebrities, 1114 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,360 yeah, it's very neat, super niche and it works. 1115 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,480 Yeah, no, obviously Japanese style tattoo him. 1116 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,000 So I don't we don't. The conversation breaks down 1117 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,480 pretty quick. And those that I have, they 1118 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,920 usually make you sign non disclosure agreements because 1119 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,680 for acting and stuff, you know, I've seen them and went how how 1120 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,880 have they not got, how can I not see what they've got right 1121 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,640 because they are covered right. So but it's it's few and far 1122 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,200 between. I've got one tattoo. 1123 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:43,960 So yeah, what? What? 1124 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,200 What? I don't look like I have 1125 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,320 tattoos. I got one tattoo. 1126 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:55,480 So me and my best mate Dave did a radio show together and we 1127 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,360 used to have this quiz every week on it. 1128 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,040 Just a quick fire general knowledge quiz and there was 1129 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,640 there was more like let's have a forfeit for the loser. 1130 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,520 And this is a this was a really Ulster Saturday afternoon show. 1131 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,800 There was no reason to have any sort of forfeit. 1132 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,800 And I said, right, loser loser gets a tattoo picked by the 1133 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,520 winner. And it came down that like that 1134 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,400 last the last episode and I lost and it was a question about 1135 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,680 Wimbledon. It was how many because I can 1136 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,160 hear it in slow motion. It was how many men's singles 1137 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,320 titles has beyond Borg one. I think that's what it was. 1138 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,400 I got it wrong because Dave's man, I love to be on boards. 1139 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,560 I was like, fuck sake. Then it was like, OK, I've got 1140 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,360 to get it done. Everyone said to me, you can 1141 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,200 just get a like a hen and like just gets because we said we'd 1142 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,360 do a video about it. Yeah, so everyone's like, don't 1143 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,320 really do it. And I was like, no, I sort of 1144 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,480 made a bet. Yeah, yeah. 1145 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,920 And like my wife was, she was like, don't get a tattoo because 1146 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,160 you lost the bed. And I was sort of seeing it from 1147 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,160 the point of view. This will always remind me of a 1148 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,640 funny time with my mate. We did this silly thing and I 1149 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,720 don't think I'm going to regret it and I don't. 1150 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:04,360 It was, it was a good few years ago and I don't regret it. 1151 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,000 But he got the picket. So bear in mind, if I had a one, 1152 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,480 I was going to make him get a portrait of my dad's face on his 1153 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,560 arm, my dad, Dennis. I was going to make Dave get my 1154 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,000 dad. On his arm. 1155 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,800 But like, beautifully drawn, which makes it funny. 1156 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,000 Yeah, yeah. Even better, yeah. 1157 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,880 Not a sketch, yeah, yeah, detailed, drawn and people go 1158 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,920 who is that your is that your father or no, it's my mates 1159 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,480 that. Yeah, yeah. 1160 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,000 So he wanted me to so I'm godfather to his daughter and 1161 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,720 he's godfather to my son. So he said I want you to get a 1162 00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:42,680 tattoo and tribute to this. So he said I want you to get the 1163 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,840 Todd father. Now I this, no, I have it. 1164 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,240 It makes it seem like I call myself this and no one else. 1165 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,040 I don't. So I have a tattoo, the tall 1166 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,440 father with his daughter's date of birth in it, but I can't 1167 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,880 really show you. It's in the back of my leg. 1168 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,040 Do you want to say? Of course. 1169 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,720 I don't think everybody, I mean, once you bring it up, it's sort 1170 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:03,120 of would. You make it for. 1171 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,160 Me call here where I found a few. 1172 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,080 Yeah, it's really well done. Yeah, it's cool. 1173 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:17,360 Yeah. The best camera, Jeremy, 1174 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,920 probably those days. You've got a different Dick 1175 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,680 there. Yeah, one of those days, so. 1176 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,640 Yeah, I just thought. I just thought it would do it. 1177 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,240 Yes, well, we. Have a fun time. 1178 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,480 I sort of expected something that was, but it's really well 1179 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,720 done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1180 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,360 And we've talked about doing this again, doing another to 1181 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,920 another vet, but I don't know. He was, he was going to get one 1182 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,920 the day I was getting it. Just he's like, I've always 1183 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,800 wanted one. Yeah, but he he chickened out. 1184 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,120 No, I mean, as far as like, that's a cool tattoo. 1185 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,880 Yeah, it's well. Done. 1186 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,080 I definitely don't regret. Like there's a funny story 1187 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,160 behind it. Yeah. 1188 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,160 And. And it was fun. 1189 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,840 I think that's a good reason to get a tattoo. 1190 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,040 And to be honest, I think that that's actually, even though 1191 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,960 that I'm a sort of the upper echelon of tattooing, I still 1192 00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:04,320 feel that way to be tattooing that it's for every different 1193 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,600 reason. And if you're happy, would you? 1194 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,520 It is a place for there's a place in everything for everyone 1195 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,320 at their own particular comfort point. 1196 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,960 And that's what the way how you feel about the whiskey, you 1197 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,880 know, certainly that's, you know, sacred about it. 1198 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,320 It's yeah, yeah. You know, everywhere it has to 1199 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,880 be accessible. Enjoy it the way you want. 1200 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,080 Yeah, and if you close the doors off and have this anticipation 1201 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,480 or expectation of people, it just kills fun of it all 1202 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,840 together. When you're told you enjoy 1203 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,240 someone a certain way, like yeah, you're. 1204 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,320 Right. Yeah, There's no, there's no, 1205 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,600 no. We need that in their life, you 1206 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,480 know? We'll put a link to Dragonclaw 1207 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:39,800 in the bio of the of the podcast episode, but I genuinely enjoy 1208 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,720 learning about whiskey in the. Process. 1209 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,800 Well, then I'm, I don't think I taught you anything to be really 1210 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,080 honest. No, I know. 1211 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,440 Anybody take it for granted that there is certain elements that 1212 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,200 are, you know, interesting. Yeah, but I just like that you 1213 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,520 had a passion or something and you see it, you saw through. 1214 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:56,520 Yeah. Oh, thank you. 1215 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,720 Do so many things where you're like I might do this and then 1216 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,360 you either you never get round to doing it and. 1217 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,720 Stop. You know, I was listening to a 1218 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,720 long list of things that that did happen with, you know, with 1219 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,320 the best intentions. Even started like an Open 1220 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,240 University degree and like just went what am I doing? 1221 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:11,680 Right in a little bit. In what? 1222 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,960 PP and is it? No, not I was going to say PPE 1223 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,640 you it is PP. And E plain. 1224 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120 Philosophy, no. And economics. 1225 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,360 It's called PP and E. Yeah, yeah, politics. 1226 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,960 So is lying in bed watching the Vietnam War documentary. 1227 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,560 On Netflix, yeah. And I had. 1228 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,600 This like I feel like I've got lots of different political 1229 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,880 ideas and somebody in this documentary was like it was 1230 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,840 mirroring my thoughts and my head pause. 1231 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,600 I'm going to study politics. Went on my phone, signed up the 1232 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,200 PPE course, Open University, watched race documentary, fell 1233 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,920 asleep, woke up the next morning went frig I have to go to uni 1234 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,400 now and do a degree in PP and E and I turned him away for like 1235 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,800 Janet What? I have to start start uni in 1236 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,400 September. She's like what? 1237 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,920 Like I had just signed up the and I went and did the first 1238 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,440 year and realised like this is only like 3 years ago. 1239 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:03,840 Right. Like, what am I doing? 1240 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,480 Like, why am I sitting doing a degree for something that's 1241 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,320 like, I'm not going to run as a politician? 1242 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,840 Or yeah, yeah, yeah. So I didn't bother, yeah. 1243 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,360 Yeah, that is a pretty level of. Drop so whenever I started doing 1244 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,800 a whiskey like anybody that knows and he was like, of course 1245 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,880 you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1246 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,720 Because the guy's mad, yeah. No, Chris, I appreciate you 1247 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,200 coming on. Oh. 1248 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,120 Thanks for having me on. It was real, real pleasure. 1249 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,160 I must say. It was really. 1250 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,840 Cool. And I'm glad like because I 1251 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,880 showed you into a parking space outside and I'm really glad that 1252 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,080 I didn't need to move your car or anything because I get 1253 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,240 intimidated by cars and uses a Mustang and it's better that I 1254 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,120 don't touch it. Yeah, it's falling apart. 1255 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,720 So yeah, we don't feel too bad about. 1256 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,480 It I have a cash cab. Cheers Chris, Appreciate it. 1257 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,760 No, listen. Thank you very much indeed. 1258 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,440 Thank you. Thanks.