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Prime big Deal days is coming 
October 8th and 9th, which can 

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lead to involuntary deal squeals
like the infamous deal on a new 

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massager squeal. 
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October 8th and 9th. 
Zippered welcome to Friday 

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episode of the tea with me 
podcast with me Shane Todd as 

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bloody per I'm going to launch 
straight into it. 

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It's a guest episode. 
My guest is the brilliant calm 

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Terrell column is someone I have
gigged a few times with in 

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Dublin couple of times in 
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He's from Dublin moved over to 
New York some years ago to a 

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guest pursue a comedy dream. 
New York, as we talk about is 

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probably the capital of of 
comedy at the minute. 

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So I talk about moving from 
Ireland over to America and how 

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you find performing on the 
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Very entertaining guy, brilliant
stand up as well. 

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So after this episode, do go 
check him out. 

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Go look at some of the stuff. 
Very very funny, really original

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style. 
Let's just get into it separate.

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This is a tea with me episode 
with my friend Com Terrell. 

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Before I started let me just 
plug the Patreon which is 

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patreon.com/tea with me podcast 
where you get the bonus episode 

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access to the live episodes as 
they happen on my stand up 

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special from last year. 
Also just got to say on Monday 

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morning tickets go on sale for 
my brand new show in the SSA 

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Arena. 
The show is called Chancer. 6th 

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of November next year. 
Tickets on sale this Monday on 

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Ticketmaster. 
On Monday morning you'll see me 

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post about it. 
I will relentlessly post about 

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it until the 2nd of until the 
5th of November next year. 

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For anyone asking as well. 
It's a different show to the one

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that I'm going to be doing at 
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That's called somebody told me. 
This one at the SSC in November 

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will be a different R of stand 
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that in early 2022. 
So let's get into it. 

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This is the episode here with me
episode with my friend. 

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Normally these podcasts are 
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or something like that. 
You said you've got nothing to 

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do for basically like the rest 
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So I'm just thinking like, what 
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You know, if we like finish 
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rolling, like what depths would 
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Because we had a chat before we 
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And I mean, we got kind of deep 
in that 3 minutes. 

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I know, I know. 
You're. 

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Oh, it's like you release an 8 
hour podcast, but it's like the 

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first hours conversation and 
then after that we just sort of 

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we're just sitting. 
Yeah, we're just sitting there. 

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The first question I ask people 
in the podcast is, do you drink 

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tea? 
Do you drink a lot of tea? 

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Like talking about your 
relationship with tea. 

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If I'm not mistaken, you're 
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class, which might be the most 
beautiful thing I've seen in 70 

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odd episodes of this podcast. 
Unfortunately, you are mistaken.

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This is a This is an iced coffee
actually. 

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I mean, no, it's just no, it 
just feels rude. 

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There's an iced coffee with my 
metal straw looking after the 

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turtles. 
And So what I do is actually, 

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and it's probably not the way 
you're supposed to do, I make a 

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pot of coffee every morning and 
then if I don't finish the 

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coffee I put in the fridge iced 
coffee the next day. 

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Yeah, I mean, not in my head 
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there probably is a lot of nerds
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comments section and be like, 
and actually that will that will

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give you, you know, some 
athletes food. 

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You know, I mean, like someone 
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that's bad, that's bad for you. 
Like I found out recently, 

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you're not supposed to reheat 
rice. 

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Apparently. 
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rice. 
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you're not supposed to do it 
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Or I don't know, like something 
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know, like there's there's 
something bad. 

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Were you drinking iced coffee 
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Because I want to talk to you 
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all that kind of thing. 
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coffee when you were living like
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Or did you move to America and 
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this? 
Yeah, I was like, I used to do a

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closet. 
I was in the closet with my iced

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coffee back in Ireland. 
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I'm like, what's that? 
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point. 
I don't look at me. 

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And then I came over here. 
I just it's a whole new world. 

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That's why, that's why you have 
it in the pint class now. 

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You're still just not, not, not 
confident enough. 

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You're like, it's fucking, it's 
Bailey's. 

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It's Bailey's door just in. 
Case my dad fucking watches 

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this. 
I'm like, no, I was drink. 

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I was drunk. 
I was. 

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I got lose. 
I didn't see I'm seeing you. 

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I mean, the last time I saw you 
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when I was over doing some 
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And you at that point, how long 
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roughly? 
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for about four years now. 
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Six years now coming up, man, it
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I moved barf. 
I came back for one of the 

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summers, but it's one. 
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says as a comedian, you're like,
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Even London feels like something
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done it years ago. 
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getting out of here. 
I'm going to do this there. 

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But you actually just did it. 
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one actually just goes and 
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And I hadn't seen you for like, 
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moved that I saw you was at the 
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And I was like, I totally see 
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just remember like being blown 
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different. 
Your delivery was I'd seen you 

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like 3-4 five times before that.
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so many skills in New York, but 
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makes sense. 
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in the caves in Edinburgh. 
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move is so beneficial. 
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Ireland, New York? 
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first because you kind of had 
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I kind of broke that, sort of 
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learned from Ireland too, 
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stuff in Ireland. 
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It's sort of just, it's sort of 
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it's hard to, you know, almost 
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I find a weird an observation. 
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in Dublin and around different 
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and Northern Ireland as well. 
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is you're kind of taught to 
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the crowd, almost like be a 
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Like you made eye contact, work 
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Then the first time I did some 
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open mics and I stood forward 
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contact with people. 
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the crowd and they fucking hated
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They looked at me like, this is 
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head down, kind of like, no, no,
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Like punch lines, you know, like
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It was just material. 
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is, is massive. 
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went, were you just doing the 
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in Dublin and then over time it 
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when I first moved him and just 
moving here was hard. 

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I don't think I did an open mic 
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when I moved there because I was
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country. 
You know, I was just a young kid

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with no fucking money. 
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trying to learn the subway 
system and and then you start 

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doing comedy and it's tough out 
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The open mic scene here is 
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So I've seen like a little like 
a tiny bit of that and, and it 

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seemed like like so clicky from 
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Like, I mean, I've got, I've 
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But like the the open mic scene 
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people would just down with 
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Like I'd always try and 
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not be like, you know, full on, 
you know, I'd just like say 

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hello. 
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like, yeah, definitely like an 
outsider type vibe. 

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Yeah, I guess it's just so many 
people here too. 

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It's like you can't just be 
making friends with everyone you

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The. 

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It's a waste of time to be 
talking to every comic over here

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because they're not going to be 
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know? 
I remember the first time we 

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gigged together was in Rd Is 
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Rd is that. 
Right, I thought. 

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I thought it was an Rd. 
I knew it was definitely that 

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guy column. 
I think his name was too right 

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or. 
Alan Alan Gurnan. 

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Alan Gurnan Yeah, it was New 
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It was New Year's Day. 
Yeah, it was a 2:00 PM show or 

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something. 
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And it was like a good, it was 
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first time Booker from down 
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contacted me about doing a set 
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So I felt like I didn't care if 
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I was like, I'm going down to do
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2:00 PM, let's do it, let's go. 
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of nowhere and like full 
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The place was packed. 
And I remember that being my 

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first gig with you. 
I think because, and it always 

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stands out to me because you 
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football top and that is one of 
my top 10 favourite moments of 

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any experience in stand up 
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like you're wearing like shoes, 
jeans, belt. 

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I'm like, yes, business, 
business comedy, get to the top 

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half. 
I'm like 5 aside as I, I think 

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he's booked in for five aside 
just after this and just ready 

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to make a quick move. 
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that I was like, it's lovely 
swear because I mean, for some 

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reason if it was like a 
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shirt it wouldn't have affected 
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But the fact that it was Inter 
Milan, it's like this is great, 

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this is great. 
This is like, this has let me 

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feel that there is some sort of 
future where I can just wear a 

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football game because that's 
what I want to do, I'm sure. 

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That was a knockoff shirt too. 
I'm pretty sure that because it 

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was true. 
The fucking ringer. 

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I don't know who owned that. 
That wasn't even my shirt. 

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I stole that from my brother, 
who stole it from someone else. 

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I. 
Think about it. 

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Milan had two else and. 
I remember that show man, and 

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I'm still angry. 
There was a couple of fucking 

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naughty women the front yapping 
because it was a free show that 

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he gave as like a customer. 
Like it was free for them 

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because it was like a customer 
loyalty. 

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Right. 
Right. 

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We didn't charge anyone in, but 
most people just wanted to go 

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drink in the fucking pub because
it's New Year's Day. 

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So that we were doing comedy at 
2:00 in the day and people are 

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just talking, having a 
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And I remember like turning 
around someone, Yo, can you guys

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not talk? 
We're doing a show here. 

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And then they were just like, 
no, we're going, we're just 

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going to keep talking. 
I'd rather talk and disturb your

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show than listen to you. 
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How much? 
How much do people, yeah, like 

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completely blindsided when as a 
stand up you ask them to if they

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would consider not talking so 
you can talk Like people are 

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like, what the like, where did 
that come? 

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You know, people are like the 
audacity, like people don't 

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understand it. 
And what about when people say 

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like a promoter or like security
or I didn't know you couldn't 

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talk? 
Yeah, I'm helping that. 

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I'm helping the show. 
Yeah. 

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It's part of the show. 
Me throwing bottles of fucking 

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beer at the fuck. 
What that did you, did you gig 

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much, would you tell many gigs 
in like Belfast in the North? 

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You're coming up a little. 
Bit right a lot. 

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I used to drive up a lot on 
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So when I started out, I would 
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Pavilion on Mondays. 
Yeah, nearly at least once a 

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month I would go. 
I used to make sure that I would

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go to Cork once a month, Belfast
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month. 
Every every other week I would 

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rotate it around because there's
nothing to do. 

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That's not a fun. 
When I moved to New York, they 

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do a thing called barking here 
where they run bar shows and 

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which is just like a regular 
show I guess. 

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And but they have people on the 
street flyer and trying to get 

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in tourists. 
What they do is it's almost like

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a rite of passage. 
They make you stand on the 

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street and flyer and if you do 
that for like 2 hours, they'll 

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give you fucking 7 minutes of 
stage time or some shit. 

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Unpaid, unpaid. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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You're just doing it so you can 
get in front of a real audience.

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But I showed up here and they 
were like, oh, you got to do 

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that. 
I was like, I'm not, I'd rather 

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just sit at home and not do 
comedy down down on the street, 

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like fucking Mickey Mouse 
promoting your show. 

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And then they're like, oh, you 
got to pay your dues. 

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And I, I got, I paid my dues. 
I used to drive down to Cork and

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back on a Friday night from 
Dublin. 

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I drive to Belfast. 
I spent all that money. 

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I did all that and I guess it 
probably hint held. 

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It held me back a bit. 
Not playing the game over here, 

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but hey, listen. 
Six years later. 

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Overnight, overnight success. 
And just like, yeah, play that. 

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I think you're right. 
Because if people if people see 

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you flying for a show and then 
you do the show, then they 

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they're not going to think 
comedian first and foremost. 

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They'll think there's the guy 
that was outside giving me the 

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giving me the flyer. 
I see that in Times Square. 

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Is there a place called like 
Times Square Comedy Club or like

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lol comedy club? 
Those guys fucking love it. 

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They're the most hype guys we've
ever seen in my life. 

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Those guys flying in a page, 
they're on Commission that's 

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people are genuinely trying to 
just survive. 

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So they're they're not comics 
during the first stage. 

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So funny lol times Bill Burr was
in town last year and he was, he

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was doing the movie with Pete 
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hotel not far from there and he 
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and he came across lol. 
But he came in and was like hey,

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can I just do can I run a set? 
And they're like Nah, sorry man,

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we're booked. 
And the guy's like, well, I'm 

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actually of experienced 
comedian, you know. 

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And the guy was like, you don't 
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I'm sorry. 
And he's like. 

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I'd love it. 
I'd love it if he gave him a 

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sandwich board. 
He's like, listen, you do 2 

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hours, you can back in, you get 
5 minutes. 

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I wouldn't even mind they're 
they're known for lying that 

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that club. 
All the credits, the credits 

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that they get, yeah. 
They'll be like Jerry Seinfeld's

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dropping in tonight, Jerry 
Seinfeld. 

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So they're probably promoting 
Bill Burr to people and then he 

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showed up to try get a spot and 
they wouldn't. 

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Yeah, why? 
So did you, let's go back a bit.

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Did you move over to New York 
for stand up or did you just 

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move up for some move over for 
something different? 

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Yeah, pretty much for stand up. 
I definitely knew I was going to

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be doing stand up and I kind of 
had a little bit of because I'm 

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a bit, I'm very self hating. 
I felt, I always felt guilty 

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that I was able to start in 
Dublin and other comedians had 

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to move from the country like So
does like Chris Kent to be a 

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friend of mine. 
He moved from Cork to Dublin so 

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he could get more shows. 
And I was, I felt privileged 

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that I was able to just be born 
there. 

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So I was able to just do open 
mics and all that type of stuff 

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all the time. 
So I said in order for me to 

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sack to get better, I'll have to
sacrifice like them. 

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And it was either going to be 
London or America. 

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And luckily I just graduated 
college so I was able to get a 

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year visa at the time. 
So I had like an internship 

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bullshit. 
So I just said I might as well 

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do it now otherwise I'll never 
have the opportunity. 

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And then I just, I just never 
came home pretty much. 

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That's, I mean, it's, it's such 
a like, it's a ballsy move. 

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And it's one of those ones where
like, like you say, people, I 

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think people make so many 
sideways moves where they're 

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like, let me move to this place 
first. 

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Maybe I'll move to Chicago and 
then maybe I can get closer than

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you. 
But to just to just going like, 

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you can't be just going to do 
something. 

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And I mean, I thought LA was 
like the comedy capital. 

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I was like, this is where the 
best stand up is. 

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Went to watch some shows that 
like the Comedy Store. 

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I was like the history. 
I was like, this is it. 

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This is the best stand up point 
for point I'll ever see. 

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And then I went to watch some 
shows in your clubs and I was 

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like, I haven't heard as much of
these guys as I had heard of the

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comedians in New York. 
But the quality of stand up is 

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infinitely better. 
Like everybody, yeah, a lot of 

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in LA it was a lot of the same 
act, just done by different 

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people, you know what I mean? 
It was, it was sanitised. 

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It was like a similar, it was 
very like like a polished show. 

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Then when I go to New York, I'm 
like, oh fuck. 

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Well this is the stand up that I
like. 

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This is, this is much more raw 
or something. 

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I'm not. 
Even saying it's just because 

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I'm in New York and I do love 
the rivalry because it's so 

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silly to me because in a 
heartbeat if I was in LA be 

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saying the opposite. 
I'm like a football player who's

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like one year I'm playing for 
everything, one year I'm playing

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for Liverpool. 
I don't give a fuck. 

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But LA stinks though. 
That does really stink for 

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producing comedy. 
There's a lot of great big names

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out there. 
But in terms of what it 

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develops, it's, there's just, 
they all want a sitcom, I 

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believe. 
So they're always trying to 

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showcase hell, animated, they 
can be, you know, on stage. 

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So the only difference is at 
least the big names still do 

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comedy over there. 
The big names don't really do 

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any comedy in New York. 
Like you got John Mulaney, He 

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doesn't really do comedy. 
You know, Louis is here and I 

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guess he's doing comedy now 
again, but he sort of stopped 

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for a long time over the 
scandal. 

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Yeah, you did a gig with, I saw 
on Instagram you did a gig with 

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him recently where he popped in 
to do a spot. 

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My big question is, did you get 
to see it? 

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Yeah. 
Did you see the set? 

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Locked the door and I had to. 
I said please, Louis. 

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You had to see the set. 
How funny. 

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Daddy, if he's like, listen, I 
got something to show you, 

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locked the door. 
You're like, oh, fuck no. 

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I mean, it might help my career 
or whatever. 

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Then he just starts doing new 
bets and you're like, oh, thank 

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fuck yeah. 
You know, he rustles around the 

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pants and then he pulls out like
a set list, a little piece of 

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paper. 
Like shit, Louis, he's running, 

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he's running bits by me. 
I go. 

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I'd rather you fucking rubbed 
one out. 

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How awkward is it when somebody 
backstage at a gig, like 

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especially one of your friends, 
it's like, listen, I've got to 

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run this thing by you and you're
like, and you don't have enough 

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time or you're trying to 
concentrate on your own thing, 

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so you know you're not going to 
give it enough. 

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It's running stuff just before a
show Backstage is not, it's not 

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good, like you say. 
I think I'd prefer to just to 

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just see the scene. 
I always say, though, like I 

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got, yeah, that could work. 
Yeah, yeah, that could work. 

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And then that's that's I never 
gave an honest opinion on 

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anyone's material in my life. 
The immortal line is there's 

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something in it. 
When you're like, listen, 

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there's something in it. 
Yeah, I've heard that one. 

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I've heard that one a few times,
right. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
You could tweak it. 

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You could just do something 
there. 

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Yeah. 
But it was when I did the, IT 

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was when I did the stand in New 
York when I was like, this is 

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far better because I felt like 
in LA, even even like the way 

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people were dressed like in LA, 
the comedians and some of my 

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favourite comedians, they looked
so sharp, like expensive 

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jackets. 
It seemed like it was almost 

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like competition to say you 
could have like the modest 

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trainers. 
And then I come to New York and 

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everybody's just wearing a plain
hoodie, pair of jeans. 

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And it's just about, it's about 
the material. 

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And then someone I know, I know 
you know you're friendly with. 

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And I've had him on this 
podcast. 

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Shane Gillis, when I saw his, 
when I saw him do stand up, I 

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was like, this one of the best, 
this one of the best bits of 

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material I've ever seen in my 
life. 

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Yeah. 
He's great. 

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And he's just like, he's just up
there kind of playing hoodie, 

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just doing the material. 
No, like like you say, like, you

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know, show busy thing about it. 
It's just killer material. 

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And then I was like, Oh yeah, 
this is this is where it's at. 

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But. 
For this such on that it's like 

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that's but that's a very much 
regardless of comedy. 

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That's just like a culturally 
like the difference of New York 

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and LALA is all about showing 
your wealth and Peacock in and 

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they they don't really have any 
embarrassment to show off how 

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wealthy they are in New York. 
It's much more of a hidden 

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thing. 
Just naturally all the wealth is

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off. 
So like it's like Louis, I did 

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that show the other night. 
I was hosting the show and all 

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these shows now because there's 
so few rooms running comedy that

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you're getting huge drop in. 
So David Tail dropped in, he's a

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he's a millionaire. 
Louis CK dropped in, he's a 

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multi millionaire. 
At least he was until I probably

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got the lawsuits. 
And then you got Joe List and 

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Mark Norman and they look, 
everyone looks like they're 

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about to go back to work. 
You know, it looked like on a 

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fucking lunch break, working the
night shift at a shopping 

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centre. 
So many of those guys I listened

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to the podcast to less Mark 
Normand to especially and and 

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like that some of the lineups 
that I saw when I was was in 

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Europe a couple days were just 
just so, so good. 

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And I think that is probably 
where I'd be most excited about 

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about doing shows again because 
I was supposed to go to America 

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at this at the very start of 
lockdown, like Saint Patrick's 

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Day basically. 
And, and obviously like it was 

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like 5050 on the day, it was 
like, do I get this flight? 

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Is it going to be OK coming 
back? 

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And then the next day it's like,
thank God I didn't go on the 

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flight, but I've rescheduled it 
for like April next year. 

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And that's what I wanted to ask 
you about. 

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It was like, what's, what's the 
state of things out there? 

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Because here in Belfast, we, I 
have been able to do socially 

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distant shows. 
It's been great. 

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But you're kind of like hustling
a lot like any, anything that is

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allowed to have comedy that I've
been asked to do a show at, I 

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would I would walk to go and do 
a show at it like for free, like

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performing as much as possible. 
Now we've had this like second, 

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like lockdown supposed to be 
doing shows before Christmas. 

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Hopefully it's going to happen. 
But there has been no comedy 

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really for most people. 
So what? 

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What's a crack in LA because or 
in New York, Sorry, because the 

444
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,720
vibe I get is that everything's 
closed, end of the world type 

445
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,280
stuff. 
But what's what's the reality as

446
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,560
a comedian right now in New 
York? 

447
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,440
Yeah, it's, it's there's not 
much going on. 

448
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,440
New York's brutal anyway. 
So even at the best of times, 

449
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,360
pre horseshit, it was it's 
brutal. 

450
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,880
You know, there's a lot of free 
shows and there's a lot of 

451
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,240
fucking famous people taking the
spots that you want. 

452
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,120
You know, so like when you say 
the Stand and or the Comedy 

453
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:20,240
Cellar, all these places, you 
know, Chris Rock will show up 

454
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,400
and bump you and it's sort of 
just the way it is. 

455
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,760
And you don't get paid much, 
very much money you. 

456
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,280
Know describe bumping for 
somebody who doesn't know stand 

457
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,720
up that well because that's 
something that doesn't happen 

458
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,160
really here because we don't 
have the names but. 

459
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,200
You'd be the guy. 
You'd be the guy bumping. 

460
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,040
I would bump. 
I'm not a bumper. 

461
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,760
You're not a bumper now. 
I'll wait it out. 

462
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560
I'll wait it out. 
I would, I would do it just for 

463
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,760
the just for the trail of it. 
And then I just go. 

464
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,600
I did it once and. 
I can't do it again. 

465
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,560
No, I. 
Would now bumping would be and 

466
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,680
I'm not really sure how it works
in the company seller fucking 

467
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:02,480
but it's the idea that like say 
maybe yeah what's what's what's 

468
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,920
that black guy was it was in a 
coma after the car crash Tracy 

469
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,000
Morgan. 
Tracy Morgan. 

470
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240
Yeah, he would. 
He'll just show up and not to 

471
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,400
make you pregnant. 
And then like that's what he 

472
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200
says for 45 minutes on stage, 
but he'll, he'll show up and go.

473
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,680
I'm gonna go up next. 
And they go, OK. 

474
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,920
So they turn around to whoever's
booked and go, Yeah, you're 

475
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,840
bumped, you're done. 
So, and this is the way it is 

476
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,440
because he would have had to 
experience that when he was 

477
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560
starting now. 
And I think a lot of it from 

478
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,040
what I hear on podcasts and 
stuff, a lot of it can be, you 

479
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800
know, you me might be booked to 
do 10 minutes or 20 minutes or 

480
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,960
whatever. 
But if if a star comes in and 

481
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520
goes, I'm going up, there's no 
such thing as a set time. 

482
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,560
Like they're going up for as 
long as they want to go up. 

483
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:49,080
And I think who's the guy who's 
the black comedian in America in

484
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,440
LA and the Comedy Store 
apparently used to go in and do 

485
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,680
like 2 hours regularly in the 
middle of like a pack lineup. 

486
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,760
He's just going to go. 
And Dane Cook parent used to do 

487
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,320
that quite a lot as well. 
Like, OK, calling in to do a 

488
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,960
spot, I'm bumping someone, it's 
not great etiquette, but just do

489
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,600
a short set and go. 
I mean to like state hijacked 

490
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720
the night like that. 
That doesn't sound. 

491
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,440
That does sound good to me. 
I don't think they do that 

492
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,040
really anymore. 
I think clubs became aware that 

493
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600
it's not worth ruining the night
just so someone can stroke their

494
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,640
ego. 
Yeah. 

495
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,040
I have heard that Chappelle 
would do it on a Wednesday night

496
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,640
or something, but he would go 
blast and then just say I'm 

497
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040
going to talk for two hours so 
you can leave when you want to 

498
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,400
leave. 
But he's not really. 

499
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,280
He's just adding to the show, 
you know? 

500
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Yeah, I guess. 
Yeah, that's, I guess that's a 

501
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,520
good way to do and. 
Nowadays they they can't do it 

502
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,160
at the seller either because 
it's so busy that they have a 

503
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,560
strict schedule. 
So if you show up to 15, you do 

504
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,760
your 15. 
It doesn't matter if you're 

505
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,520
Louis, as far as I know. 
Maybe maybe it's different over 

506
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,920
there, but as I know, as if it 
doesn't matter if you're Chris 

507
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,280
Rock, if the show's over, the 
show's over because they've got 

508
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,800
too many tickets. 
They got to keep it rolling. 

509
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,480
Is there, is there like an Irish
comedy community out there? 

510
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,880
Is there anybody else? 
I don't. 

511
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,560
I don't. 
I can't think. 

512
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:09,440
Oh yeah, yeah, I know Katie was 
on in Caroline's that night with

513
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,400
us, but I think maybe I missed 
her set, but I just, yeah, I 

514
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960
know of her as like being 
somewhat like obviously someone 

515
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,360
from Ireland out there. 
And so like the Irish comedy 

516
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,880
scene in New York is you and 
Katie, pretty much. 

517
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,680
Yeah, I wish it was bigger man. 
And if anyone ever came out, you

518
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,760
know, like if you were ever out 
here, I'd love to create 

519
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,160
something. 
It's just so hard for people to 

520
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,320
get visas and stuff. 
And normally by the time you can

521
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,560
can get one like yourself, 
you're probably, you know, you 

522
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,480
Northern Irish guys fucking you 
be selling out stadiums and 

523
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,840
shit. 
So it's like. 

524
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,480
Yankee Stadium. 
Yeah, I just played the O2 there

525
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,640
last night, and now you're going
to go do an open mic and fucking

526
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,560
back for stage time? 
You're like 80,000 tickets sold 

527
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,040
last year. 
What? 

528
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,280
No big deal. 
You guys are crazy. 

529
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,160
And then you're going to come 
over for this horseshit? 

530
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,480
Yeah. 
Bumped for Chris Rock. 

531
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,840
No way. 
Then I would, yeah. 

532
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,200
I mean, there's just something 
about it though where you're 

533
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,880
like, you know, there's a real 
good stand up scene in Belfast 

534
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,160
at the minute. 
But when you go away to 

535
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,400
somewhere where where you don't 
have that kind of advantage of, 

536
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,680
OK, some people in this audience
might have seen me before or 

537
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,640
might might know some of my 
stuff from online when that sort

538
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,920
of safety blanket is away, 
because that's great at the 

539
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,800
time, because you kind of like 
you get more of a period of 

540
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,680
grace when you first get up, you
know, you people will give you a

541
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800
bit more time. 
But when you go somewhere like 

542
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,680
New York, whatever, and you do 
like the open mic that that's 

543
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,200
well, that's when you know if 
your material is worth anything 

544
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,360
or not. 
But I was. 

545
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,080
But I'll tell you this for you 
and it's this, this is true for 

546
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,120
a lot of acts like the the the 
comedy scene in America, 

547
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,080
especially New York. 
It is in nurturing for certain 

548
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960
types of our styles of acts. 
All right. 

549
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,760
And you've got a very sort of 
unique, I don't know, it's like 

550
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,240
it's almost silly and it's like 
unarming little little sort of 

551
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320
semi sort of they're not like 
hard punch lines, but to be like

552
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,000
a little quip on the end of 
something. 

553
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,560
And that's something you 
developed. 

554
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,160
But the welcome mic scene here 
wouldn't have allowed you to 

555
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,840
develop like that. 
You would have been very much a 

556
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,280
start and stop being all that 
stuff wouldn't be there. 

557
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,360
So the fact that you were able 
to learn that in a different 

558
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,040
environment is it's so much 
better because I've seen you 

559
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,120
here and you kill and it's so 
unique to see you because you 

560
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:27,440
don't have everyone else's 
voice. 

561
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,120
But if you were to star in the 
open mics, that would have been 

562
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,600
hit beaten out of you. 
And it's the same way I know Jim

563
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,280
Jeffries. 
He was able to become a 

564
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,680
storyteller by going to the 
Edinburgh Fringe and doing long 

565
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,480
stories. 
He would never been able to do 

566
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840
that in if he started in New 
York. 

567
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,280
So he might never become the 
fucking the guy we all know and 

568
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,200
love now today, you know? 
So there is benefit to being in 

569
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,320
different places, you know, and 
I feel I also haven't started in

570
00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Ireland and done long sets and 
played in front of crowds and 

571
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
got paid when I was young. 
I'm coming over here. 

572
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960
I felt that I've always had that
experience behind me. 

573
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680
I don't know if I could have 
made it in New York, if I like, 

574
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,840
I wouldn't have been made it 
through the process. 

575
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,400
I'm still trying to make it, you
know, I don't know if I would 

576
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800
have been able to had I not got 
that experience. 

577
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,920
It might have just been so, so 
much of A miserable experience 

578
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,280
just banging out open mics every
night to put with no response to

579
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,880
anyone. 
That's a great point about great

580
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,480
point about the Edinburgh 
Fringe, about the fact that 

581
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,200
you're doing 2530 hour long 
shows in a month. 

582
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360
Like if you're doing the open 
mic scene in New York, maybe 

583
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,680
you're getting like maybe you're
getting 3 minutes here, 5 

584
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360
minutes here. 
If you go to Edinburgh and 

585
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,240
you're doing your own show and 
then spots, you're maybe doing 

586
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,520
50 hours worth of stand up, 
which is huge. 

587
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640
And then you take that back 
every time you do Edinburgh or 

588
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280
like a big run of shows. 
I think you're always like a 

589
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,560
better comedian after learn more
about yourself and you're set. 

590
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,200
So yeah, that's an interesting 
point and I think you're. 

591
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Right. 
There's Benefit because there's 

592
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,000
a lot of English comics that are
fucking brutal too. 

593
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440
And that's pretty Edinburgh 
Fringe's fault because they they

594
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,080
have nice fucking skinny jeans 
and Alone or any of those other 

595
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960
dumb agencies, send them up 
there and go, hey, listen, do a 

596
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,000
fucking show about racism. 
It won't be funny, but they'll 

597
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,720
stretch out five minutes over an
hour. 

598
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,880
And then they'll try to teach 
you that, you know, hey, racism 

599
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080
is a problem. 
And we're like, yeah, who are 

600
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,240
you teaching this to? 
We all know that Dick head. 

601
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320
So they're terrible. 
Like English comics are really 

602
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,400
bad. 
English comics make fucking LA 

603
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,320
look like like fucking gods. 
There's a benefits to both of 

604
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,920
them, you know, I. 
Could tell you that my 2021 show

605
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,520
is going to be called racism as 
a problem, so you kind of fucked

606
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880
up for me. 
Shit man, I'm sorry dude but you

607
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,840
have to learn it somewhere. 
It wasn't me, someone else would

608
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,960
have said it. 
I think that's a great point 

609
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,520
about learning to do stand up 
and then and then going 

610
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,240
somewhere like New York, because
I definitely found out quickly 

611
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,920
that whenever I was doing some 
gigs in America in clubs, 

612
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,760
Ireland is so much about 
storytelling. 

613
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,080
It's so much about, you know, 
slightly longer bits and you're 

614
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,600
telling tales essentially. 
And I was going, if I had a 7 

615
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,040
minute spot in at a club in 
America, I was going in with one

616
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,760
story and I was like, let me 
tell the seven minute story 2 

617
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,560
minutes into that. 
People might have lost 

618
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,320
attention, might not have 
enjoyed it. 

619
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,040
I lost their attention. 
I, I've started the story. 

620
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,240
So I can't go anywhere else. 
So then I'm watching in 

621
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,840
different clubs. 
I'm seeing that actually, if you

622
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,480
have like quicker punch lines, 
if you have like bits, it's so 

623
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,280
much easier. 
So then after a while I'm like, 

624
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,840
oh, let me change just this 
slightly. 

625
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960
And then the last time I played 
there I was like, this style 

626
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,320
suits me a lot better. 
Quicker punch lines, not just 

627
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,000
this like long story with a 
funny bit at the end. 

628
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,240
And you're saying about like 
about making it like just from 

629
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,120
the outside looking in, like 
things seem to have really 

630
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,080
actually, actually weirdly, 
since the start of this like 

631
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,320
pandemic, I've seen like so much
more of you. 

632
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,120
I've seen you doing loads of 
stuff with Legion of Skanks, 

633
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,440
which is, you know, you say 
about English comedy and 

634
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
probably the sort of comedians 
you see it live at the Apollo, 

635
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760
the Edinburgh Fringe. 
That is the sort of comedy that 

636
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,720
people assume here that I'm 
into. 

637
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,320
People will go, what do you 
think of this comedian or that 

638
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
on the like the London scene 
usually I don't know because 

639
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280
it's not a scene I follow. 
I don't know. 

640
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,640
I look at stuff like all the 
American podcast. 

641
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640
I follow Legion of Skanks a 
little bit. 

642
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,680
So I know all those guys. 
And then when I see you on that,

643
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880
then that's like, I don't know 
if you've been working with 

644
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
those guys for a while or mixing
in that scene, but I was like, 

645
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,480
so happy for you for that 
because. 

646
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Thanks, man. 
I appreciate it. 

647
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,920
Yeah. 
Because that's like, yeah, that 

648
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,800
is like a group of well known, 
if you know all about the like 

649
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,880
the newer comedy scene, the 
American comedy scene, like, you

650
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,240
know, so many of those acts. 
And that's a brand of comedy I 

651
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,160
really like, which is a load of 
people just like not really 

652
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,680
giving a fuck and just being 
funny for the sake of funny. 

653
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,760
And it's a lot of comedy you 
probably couldn't get away with 

654
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,960
in, in like the UK and Irish 
comedy scene, you know, it's 

655
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760
definitely just like it's, it's,
it's more of a raw kind of 

656
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960
comedy. 
And and that's, that's brilliant

657
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,480
that you've managed to like get 
involved with those guys doing 

658
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040
podcasts. 
So has it, was there like a 

659
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,360
point where you were like 
actually is maybe kicking off a 

660
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,160
little bit? 
Like, yeah, like a week ago when

661
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,840
I got to do the leaders gangs, 
it was like the first time I'm 

662
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200
like, I think I'm in the right 
direction. 

663
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,960
I swear to God. 
That was the first time. 

664
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,200
Back in March, I was having a 
great fuck. 

665
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,240
A few months back, up until the 
pandemic, I was getting past our

666
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,840
clubs, which you did 
immediately, by the way, which 

667
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,240
I'll honestly admit, I'm so 
jealous of how fast you just 

668
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,000
achieved stuff that took me 
years to try happen in New York.

669
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:10,880
You showed up and then next 
thing you know, you were just 

670
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,320
booked at the stand for a week. 
And I was like, I've been 

671
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560
fucking auditioning and going 
down there and hanging out for 

672
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,239
years. 
And then you were just like, 

673
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,159
yeah, no, I just some best 
friends with the owner now. 

674
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Yeah, but no, but that there's a
reason for that. 

675
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,159
I mean, you might have heard my 
name get introduced as Russell 

676
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:26,360
Hard. 
I just lied. 

677
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,320
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I was like, listen. 

678
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,920
That's so funny. 
No, listen, that's The funny 

679
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600
thing about New York. 
And so if you could, you could 

680
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,600
probably just say you're Russell
Howard and they go, yeah, 

681
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,679
whatever. 
Look, this limey fuck get up 

682
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,239
there. 
Yeah, that's so funny. 

683
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,840
It's so funny too. 
I say, who do they see? 

684
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,560
What's that famous comic? 
He's a, he's a, he's Auk guy. 

685
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080
He's not very good. 
I don't want to but. 

686
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,360
I don't want to guess anyone. 
Yeah, he always. 

687
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,120
He's a very good actor though. 
I forgot his name but he was in 

688
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,880
town doing them shows. 
Can I can I make a guess and if 

689
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,360
it's wrong and if he ever sees 
this, he'll be like why one with

690
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,680
the guy just all calm said was 
he's not very good and you 

691
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,400
nailed it. 
Is it was a Jack White hole? 

692
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,200
It was from downtown, brother. 
Yes, yes. 

693
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,560
Oh, my God. 
We got to get into some sort of 

694
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,600
partnership. 
Man, that was great. 

695
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,880
Yeah, that was great. 
It was. 

696
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,800
Telepathic. 
We've got that connection. 

697
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000
And trust me, I said an English 
guy is not very good. 

698
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,360
There's thousands to pick 
thousands. 

699
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,240
You got it. 
That was great, man. 

700
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,760
We used to do this feature on, 
on radio called food phone, me 

701
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,880
and my mate Dave, where people 
would call in like total 

702
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,400
strangers would call in and the 
show was live and they would 

703
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,200
hold like an item of food up to 
the to the phone. 

704
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960
And we can only hear them. 
We couldn't see them. 

705
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,520
And we would try and sense what 
the food was just based on, you 

706
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,560
know, we'd say things like, can 
you like rub it against your 

707
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,840
forehead? 
Can you tap it off the phone? 

708
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080
And we would guess and it took 
me 4 weeks to get it. 

709
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,840
And one week I was like, I feel 
that this might be an avocado 

710
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,520
and the guy's like, it's fucking
avocado. 

711
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,560
So yeah, I mean, there's, I 
mean, that's why I got, that's 

712
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600
why I got past at that club. 
Just I didn't read their own 

713
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,040
material. 
I was like, listen, I'm sensing 

714
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,240
there's a Steve in the room. 
Is there a Steve in the room? 

715
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520
You had Does anyone have some 
lunch in their bag? 

716
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,880
Who has some food in their bag 
and someone put their hand and 

717
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,640
they go. 
It's half a Subway sandwich. 

718
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,600
I just played that game because 
I'd spent all my money on 

719
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,440
flights and accommodation. 
I was like, it's half a Subway 

720
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,800
sandwich. 
Bring it up here. 

721
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,080
Yeah, but we should. 
What we should do is eventually 

722
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,680
when I come over, I've been 
talking about doing a show in 

723
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,280
Woodlawn. 
So everybody was like, what you 

724
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,040
need to do is put a show on 
Woodlawn because I was doing 

725
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,040
shows in Manhattan like solo 
shows and, and they were great 

726
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,840
and like a small basement venue.
And but a couple of people who 

727
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,600
came that like are from Ireland,
but live in New York were like, 

728
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,040
we travelled from like we all 
came from like Brooklyn to get 

729
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,280
here. 
Like nobody like lives in like 

730
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,520
the Upper East Side here. 
So the best thing is just put on

731
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,000
a show where we all live. 
So when it's safe to like, fly 

732
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,080
over and do shows, we should 
just do that. 

733
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,200
Maybe me, you and Katie like the
the the entire New York Irish 

734
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,000
comedy scene. 
Yeah. 

735
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,280
I did, I ran a show out 
Woodlands. 

736
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,800
Weird. 
You gotta, you gotta have a name

737
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,000
out there. 
So just past the Bronx, you 

738
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,760
know, so that's like the biggest
Irish community in New York. 

739
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,160
And I ran a show there once. 
He sold like 10 tickets and he 

740
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,200
never did it again. 
But I think we're you and your 

741
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,720
following you have on social 
media. 

742
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,280
You should fucking. 
We'll get 6 or 7 guys in having 

743
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520
a good time. 
Yeah. 

744
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Is that did you do that like 
real Irish comedy tour or? 

745
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,840
No, it is not. 
I did not. 

746
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Get you know the one I'm talking
about. 

747
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,760
Yeah, yeah. 
Does it. 

748
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,240
OK, So does originally there's a
there's a tour called the Irish 

749
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,880
Comedy or something like that, 
or it's called like the Irish 

750
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Kings of Comedy. 
And it's a bunch of fucking guys

751
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,360
called Flanagan from Boston, you
know? 

752
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400
And they had that. 
And they bring out a Midget or a

753
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,320
little person who's dressed as a
leprechaun and they play 

754
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,800
bagpipes and shit. 
And they have a guy like, it's a

755
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,040
comedy show. 
And it's like. 

756
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,920
Irish. 
Bro walking around and it's like

757
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,920
shipping off the Boston way. 
They just do jokes about being 

758
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,920
drunk and yeah, you know. 
And so they had that and then 

759
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,920
someone from LA and or out West 
anyway, he said, no, we're going

760
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,600
to do a different one called the
Real Irish Comedy Tour or 

761
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,400
something like that. 
And so then they organised the 

762
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,400
tour and they went around to 
different places, but that's 

763
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,880
they were really Irish comics. 
And then there's also a thing 

764
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,800
called the Irish Comedy Festival
that they had out in LA, in 

765
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,760
California. 
So I was in like San Diego and 

766
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,400
stuff too. 
So they booked a bunch of Irish 

767
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,880
comics. 
And then they actually said 

768
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,960
someone, they never invited me, 
right? 

769
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,040
I didn't want to do it. 
I think it's hacky. 

770
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,360
And so I would actually never do
that because unless they're 

771
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,000
paying me fucking boatloads of 
money, because you don't want to

772
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,080
be known that you want to be a 
comic, You don't want to be the 

773
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,400
Irish comic everything. 
No matter what you do, you'll 

774
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,440
always be the Irish comic. 
So you don't want to double down

775
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,320
on it and be the Irish fucking 
dumb Patty. 

776
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,560
So eventually someone up, they 
said, oh, I could come down if I

777
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,920
pay for my own flights. 
And I was like, dude, I'd bury 

778
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,320
everyone on this lineup. 
I would bury you. 

779
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,640
Yeah. 
Like the fact that you're even 

780
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,560
are you can even reach me right 
now is an insult. 

781
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,280
The fact that you can even 
contact me is so upsetting to 

782
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,480
me. 
I fucking hate these guys, dude.

783
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,840
It's about time I did legions 
gangs and it's about time I got 

784
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,600
some fucking respect. 
Todd, I want to sell out in 

785
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,880
Belfast. 
Why can't I sell a ticket? 

786
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,320
You know what this is going to 
finish with? 

787
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,720
You didn't show Madison Square 
Garden a year from now in an 

788
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,960
Inter Milan full tracksuit. 
The Irish king of comedy. 

789
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,080
I just completely settled out 
the real Irish king of comedy. 

790
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,360
I mean, what, what I enjoy about
that is this Irish comedy tour 

791
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,600
of comedians who you know, like,
like don't talk like us or 

792
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,720
whatever. 
I did a show in New York couple 

793
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,600
of years ago and they booked 
like an Irish comedy lineup and 

794
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:52,560
it was, it was Irish Americans. 
And very quickly I realised you 

795
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,920
could so easily fall into a trap
of hockey Irish material. 

796
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,520
But don't get me wrong, we'll 
kill like in most places, like 

797
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,120
probably not in clubs, in like 
good clubs it wouldn't. 

798
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,240
But like a functions and all 
that kind of shit. 

799
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,080
It would take the roof. 
But it's cheating. 

800
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:15,240
It's a it's not, it's not real. 
It's not like there's something 

801
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,800
gross. 
But I mean, I think the odd joke

802
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,840
is fine bit of material. 
Definitely the first few times I

803
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,160
went over I was like, what's 
Ireland like? 

804
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,520
But that's because I felt 
comfortable doing that the first

805
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,280
times and then the last time I 
was like, let me see if this 

806
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,600
would like work if I wasn't from
Ireland, you know. 

807
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,960
But yeah, I think, I think that 
kind of Irish stand up thing 

808
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,160
when that is your whole act, 
it's just not. 

809
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Yeah, you got to do that. 
I open with some Irish stuff for

810
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,560
like always because people and I
found out that people, if I 

811
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,560
don't mention it, they're just 
confused. 

812
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
They always forget they're like,
and afterwards people come up 

813
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,440
people, Oh, are you Australian 
or something? 

814
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,320
So I'm like, wait, so I just did
20 minutes and you didn't know 

815
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,480
where I'm from. 
So the whole time they're 

816
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120
watching me going, wait, is he, 
what's what's wrong with him? 

817
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,280
Does he, is he having a stroke? 
So I just open where and let 

818
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,720
them know. 
But then, but it's the same like

819
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,640
in England, if you're a 
Liverpool comedian and all you 

820
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,920
talk about is Liverpool, you're 
up north, that's all you talk 

821
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,440
about. 
Because I remember years ago I 

822
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,000
read a review someone in the 
Edinburgh Fringe and the guy got

823
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,240
slaughtered. 
Let me guess. 

824
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,040
This guy got slaughtered. 
He went over and did the 

825
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,760
Edinburgh Fringe Festival and 
apparently all his jokes were 

826
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,640
just like the moon landing the 
only Americans could imagine if 

827
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,480
Ireland landed on the moon and 
he's just gone. 

828
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:40,880
Jesus, where's my point? 
And you know, it's just like for

829
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,080
so from a young age, you're just
going, oh, Jesus, man. 

830
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,120
You know what, in fairness, if I
was there at that show and I had

831
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,720
a pint or two, I fucking laugh 
at that. 

832
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,320
That, that's that. 
Is Irish. 

833
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,440
We're fucking gob shites. 
That's the whole thing is like, 

834
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,680
yeah, I think just the trick 
would be that, yeah, do a joke 

835
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,080
about the fucking do the 
difference between cats and 

836
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,720
dogs, yeah. 
Yeah. 

837
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Universal. 
There you go. 

838
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,320
Now we're now. 
We're on the now. 

839
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,320
We're on the right path. 
Don't be the fight. 

840
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,080
Bring us together. 
Difference between cats and dogs

841
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Difference between Irish cats 
and Irish dogs Irish dogs always

842
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,000
having a pint. 
Always having a pint. 

843
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Irish Cat. 
Your accents kind of holding up 

844
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,720
as well, like if you've been 
there for six years, does it 

845
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,400
ever slip or you keeping you 
keeping firm on that? 

846
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,960
No, this is it. 
And this is I think this is very

847
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,400
American and you don't I get all
my Irish friends. 

848
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Maybe it's because I'm a dub. 
And so you might get might not 

849
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,120
get there, but I definitely, I 
definitely say a lot of like 

850
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,280
American slang and I'm trying to
be better. 

851
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,280
Like I'm always like, awesome 
dude. 

852
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,640
And well, I shouldn't have done 
the eyes. 

853
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,440
That was the issue with that. 
Yeah. 

854
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,640
But all my all my Irish mates 
say, I say I'm mad American and 

855
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,040
all the American mates say I 
something sound mad Irish. 

856
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,880
So I'm caught in this fucking 
place. 

857
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,160
But I, I think it's natural to 
try change our voice because 

858
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,600
it's so frustrating to have 
people be like, say 33, say 33 

859
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,080
and I'm like, like a monkey 
dancing. 

860
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,880
Yeah, no, I know exactly what 
you mean. 

861
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,480
Have you had any, like I've been
asking comedian guest this 

862
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,360
recently because I have, but 
have you had any, have you had 

863
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,280
any weird project ideas over 
lockdown where you're like, 

864
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,600
listen, I need to do a web 
series about this and then then 

865
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,320
realise it's never going to be a
thing? 

866
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,320
I have one of these every day. 
Dude, I've got a notebook of 

867
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,840
just ideas that I will never 
fucking complete. 

868
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,200
I did just think, you know what 
I was watching there. 

869
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,520
I don't know if I'll ever do 
this either. 

870
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,440
I was what? 
I was watching Naked Gun the 

871
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,800
other day. 
Do you watch Naked Gun of? 

872
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,240
Course just. 
Fucking hilarious movie like, 

873
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:58,640
and I feel like all that type of
slapstick stuff was gone. 

874
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,000
So I was thinking I was like, me
and my mate might try do like a 

875
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,280
fight, you know, where it's 
like, I'm a cop, I'm a criminal 

876
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,920
and he's a cop. 
And then we'll fight and I'll 

877
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,760
just be stupid. 
Like he'll hit my head. 

878
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,920
And then like my, my, like, my 
eyes roll around like a fucking 

879
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,800
slot machine and all this money 
falls out of me mail. 

880
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
And then I was just thinking, I 
wrote all this stuff down. 

881
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,800
I was like, I'm never done to do
this stuff. 

882
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,800
Yeah, there's no way I'm ever 
done to do that. 

883
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,120
That was my plan. 
Just a little sketch. 

884
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,920
I yeah, I mean, I just have 
these ideas that like an idea 

885
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,000
once where I was just trying 
just taste insiders. 

886
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,200
I was like, is there a web 
series where I'm taste insiders?

887
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,680
And then I was like, I mean, 
probably what The thing is there

888
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,640
is, you know, I just want to, I 
just want to have a drink. 

889
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,240
And I was like, I can do that 
without the camera. 

890
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,080
You know, every every day I've 
got like a web series that I'm 

891
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,920
glad has never happened. 
And I was like, listen, get 

892
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,200
cameras here. 
Can we do something where I try 

893
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,960
and learn how to, how to 
headstand, you know, headstand 

894
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,640
or handstand? 
And it's just good that these 

895
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,440
projects are, are not happening.
So yeah, I want to just sort of 

896
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,040
wrap up by asking you about like
probably like your, your goals 

897
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,680
or like, is there anything you 
particularly like want to do or 

898
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,080
you someone who or you someone 
who just sort of takes each day 

899
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,760
as it comes, each gig as it 
comes or anything I up and say 

900
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,840
like not maybe a gig in Dublin, 
a particular venue or anything 

901
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,360
like that. 
Yeah, I guess there's, there's 

902
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,640
always, there's obviously big 
dreams, you know what I mean? 

903
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,480
Like if I was ever to even play 
Vicar St in Ireland, I never 

904
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,720
even got the open for anyone 
back in there, you know what I 

905
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,200
mean? 
So if I was ever to even just 

906
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,080
feature for someone back in 
Vicar Street, I think that would

907
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,640
be a big deal because I grew up 
there into so many shows there, 

908
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,320
you know, and. 
I think that, but that's I think

909
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,360
that's definitely like doable 
because when I've seen a couple 

910
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,600
of American comedians of X St 
recently, like Brooke Kreischer 

911
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,320
and I saw Theo Von there once 
and especially in Dublin, more 

912
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,320
so than here, there is a there's
a big love for like the American

913
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,360
comedy, the American comedy that
you and I like. 

914
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,680
So I think the more you become 
like, you know, fix your on on 

915
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,000
that scene and like do the likes
elite like people in Dublin 

916
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,640
would probably know like Legion 
is get like Lewis J Gomez. 

917
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,360
People probably know him more 
than they would know fucking 

918
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,960
Jarlath Reagan. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

919
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,320
So like if. 
They have any taste? 

920
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,960
So I think I think you would I 
think you would like that would 

921
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,640
be way more impressive to be 
like, you know, you went away so

922
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,920
established somewhere else and 
then just like sweat back in to 

923
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,080
do like a big a big show. 
I think. 

924
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,320
And the fact that you've never 
even you've never done sport for

925
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,800
anyone there like that would be 
so much better to be like the 

926
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,680
first time you play it, to just 
be like your thing, your show. 

927
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Yeah, maybe that would be, yeah,
great, obviously. 

928
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,120
But there's like, there's just 
I've got other things in the way

929
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,040
before all that stuff because 
all that stuff is like they're 

930
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,160
nice little moments, but they 
don't really change the whole 

931
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,640
they're like bells and whistles 
on top of stuff. 

932
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,560
The end of the day is if you're 
a full time comic and you're 

933
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,240
earning a living and you're able
to support your your fucking 

934
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:23,320
family doing that, like 
everything else is almost the 

935
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,240
scale of it. 
It isn't relevant and where you 

936
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,280
do it isn't relevant. 
That's like the main goal. 

937
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,360
And hopefully if you're happy 
with the quality of what you're 

938
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,480
doing, I'd rather be doing stuff
that I love getting paid to do 

939
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,560
and not sell any tickets nearly 
and and be popular and not happy

940
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,160
with myself. 
You. 

941
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:48,840
Know so at the moment I've got 
my Patreon going like $100 a 

942
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,520
week nearly. 
So you know that's like a 

943
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,920
milestone. 
So now like I can drive because 

944
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,240
I'm still driving trucks and 
stuff. 

945
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,920
So hopefully now I can just 
drive a truck one day less a 

946
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,280
week. 
And now, hopefully this time 

947
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,800
next year, who knows? 
Fingers crossed, I might be at a

948
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,080
point where I can just just talk
for a living, you know? 

949
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,800
Well, I'll link to your I'll 
link to your Patreon in the in 

950
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,240
the description of of this 
podcast. 

951
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,240
And do you have like you have a 
lot of stand up on YouTube or 

952
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,160
things like like is there 
anywhere you post like a lot of 

953
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,880
stuff or people want to see 
some? 

954
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,760
All my podcasts, I have a 
podcast called The Wizard of Pod

955
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,800
and it comes out every Friday. 
It's on YouTube, so head over 

956
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,960
there or if you're listening to 
this, wherever you listen to 

957
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,680
podcasts that should be 
available. 

958
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,840
So and also just maybe keep an 
eye out for my name because I'd 

959
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,240
love to get back to Ireland as 
soon as I can do some shows, so 

960
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,240
hopefully me and Shane can link 
up. 

961
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,800
Yeah, that's it. 
We could do like, you know, like

962
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080
come dine with me. 
Like you host me. 

963
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,680
We do a show in New York and you
know, you, you prepare me some 

964
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,320
sort of dinner. 
You come over to Belfast, not 

965
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,280
prepare you some sort of dinner.
We'll go home in a taxi, rate 

966
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,120
each other at a 10. 
I don't know if you've seen Come

967
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Dine with Me. 
I've gone quite far down the 

968
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,520
road with this analogy. 
Seen it. 

969
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,040
Yeah. 
So you're saying don't do any 

970
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,200
shows, just make each other? 
Just have dinner, yeah? 

971
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,320
Again, this is one of those 
things where it's like, maybe we

972
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,920
don't need to make this a show 
and we could just have dinner 

973
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,160
and that's. 
Dinner charge people in the 

974
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,480
watches seat. 
That's what that's what people 

975
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,080
are doing these days. 
They just go, I can make money 

976
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,720
rather than rather than just 
play PlayStation, I'm going to 

977
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,520
have people watch we play 
PlayStation and then hopefully 

978
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,840
they'll give me money to do 
this. 

979
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,840
So you're on to something. 
Yeah, you and me and you and me 

980
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,320
and and Nando's, you know, 
talking into a bit of chicken. 

981
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,720
People pay £15 a head to watch. 
It's a good time. 

982
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,320
It's been great chatting to you.
I can't wait to, like, properly 

983
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,560
see you at some point, whether I
come over there or when you're 

984
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,640
over and we'll do some comedy, 
we'll do some dinner. 

985
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,240
It'll be a nice time. 
Wizard Wizard of pod link to 

986
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,520
down below and yeah, calm. 
Cheers. 

987
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Thanks man. 
Congrats on everything man. 

988
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,000
We've been watching your stuff 
and it's great to see you 

989
00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,600
blowing up. 
Appreciate it. 

990
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Thank you very much. 
Chat soon.