1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,280 Prime big Deal days is coming October 8th and 9th, which can 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,680 lead to involuntary deal squeals like the infamous deal on a new 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,920 massager squeal. Save big on prime big deal days 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,600 October 8th and 9th. Welcome to this episode of the 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,480 Tea with Me podcast with me, she and Todd. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,760 Before we get into this episode, let me plug a few things. 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,640 Dan, will I have done my secondary SSE by the time this 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,280 comes out? Great SSE Arena, 13th of 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,080 November, it'll be my second one. 10 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:39,520 Saturday night, 4 tickets still available. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,680 There's five. You can get them on 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,560 Ticketmaster. Put a link in the description 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,720 of. This will be the biggest show 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,400 that I've ever done. You can come see that. 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Also go to poppatreonpatreon.com/tea With 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Me podcast with your bonus episode on a Monday, live stream 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,440 on a Friday, Dan will post the odd selfie of himself. 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,480 It's good value. apatreon.com/tea with Me 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,560 podcast. Now let's get into the the two 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,960 big hitters. The back This podcast kicking 21 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:11,120 off with Thompson's tea. Who? 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,320 Who are the guys behind Panjana? Now you might not know this, but 23 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:21,280 these guys started making tea in the 1800s and before that 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Belfast was just chaos. You know those times of, you 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,760 know, the royal job, the Romans, you know, all these different 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,640 kinds of guys. And honestly, when the Thompson 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,480 family invented Punjana, it all stopped. 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,560 And I think we'll all agree it's been playing sailing here since 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,840 I think the catalyst for peace here. 30 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,560 And I hope they don't mind me saying it has been Punjana. 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,040 It's been keeping every because, you know, you'll have to bet you 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,000 would have had the visions in the past back then. 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,440 But all the Thompson family did was pour the cups here, have a 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,880 swig of that. Oh, all of a sudden, peace and 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,080 love. And yeah, they've been making 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 tea since 1800s. All people think Panjana comes 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,120 from a far away place, like because it's exotic, you're a 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 far away place. Like, you know, Alicante or 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Malaga, That's the best I could do. 40 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,000 But it doesn't. It's made in Belfast. 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,680 It's been made in Belfast for 100 years. 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,680 It's Northern Ireland's number one selling tea. 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,840 You know what Panjana are all about? 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,560 You know what their slogan is? Fuck the best with the rest. 45 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,520 No, no, that's not, No, that's all of it. 46 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,880 That's everyone else's slogan. They say they thought about that 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,520 one and then they sacked the guy who said that and then they said 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 fuck the rest, we're the best. That's what it is. 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,880 That's what Pajana is. It's Northern Ireland's number 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 one selling tea. You know it, we love it. 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,600 And thanks to them for sponsoring the podcast. 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Also, we're sponsored by Manscaped now. 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Yes, pubic hair used to be a taboo subject. 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,120 Used to be. If you even mention, if you ever 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,600 said to a friend, what do you like down there, you could have 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,600 gone to Magalbury for five to six, five to six years. 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,200 Not anymore. 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We're doing the tech talk thing. 96 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 I don't know what tech talk is. I'm on it. 97 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,480 I don't know what to do. I'm like, I'm like your dad at a 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Tiësto concert. I'm there and I'm claiming to 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,280 enjoy the music but I don't, I don't understand it. 100 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,360 But I've been aware of this guy for a few years, seeing 101 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,960 different projects he's been doing. 102 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,800 And look, I enjoy magic, I enjoy magic a lot. 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 But it's something I struggle to enjoy because I I need to know 104 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 like how it's done. But I but in the last few, in 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,440 the last while, I've realised I thought that's what magic is. 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,160 You don't know how it's done, you don't know how it's done. 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,400 My guest today is Jewel M, but may I drop the M and just call 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,080 you Jewel? You may, absolutely. 109 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Excellent be so awkward if I had to say Jewel M conversation. 110 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:01,040 We're still getting used. People will now say Jewel M Only 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,440 reason I call it Jewel M is the surname was too long to spell on 112 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,280 posters and that sort of thing. You're showing Mawhinney, 113 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:08,800 Mawhinney and well, here we understand it, but go anywhere 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,520 else and they're like, but here's what I dropped it. 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Joel M also sounds a little bit French or Korean, so that's 116 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,080 nice. You know what I mean? 117 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Joel M Like it sounds like 1. That's true. 118 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,480 I mean, it was kind of Cardi B and I thought, well, I can do 119 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,920 that, but I hate saying it. I. 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,920 You know, an Irish Cardi B? Very similar. 121 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,920 We've been, we've been compared frequently. 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,960 It is a silly thing when people do say, oh, it's Joel M kind of 123 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,080 don't know. It feels weird, you know, I feel 124 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,840 like you're getting too big for your boots type thing. 125 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,280 You know what I mean? Because I know, I know some 126 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:42,960 people was sort of stage names or persona names. 127 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Was there anything else in the mix? 128 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,160 There was never no, and it just kind of came across by accident. 129 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,680 I was speaking to another magician. 130 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,760 He said no, When he's terrible, just go Amazon, OK. 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,960 And then he's kind of stuck. There's more? 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Any sausages? No. 133 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,200 There are yeah, no relationship. That's absolutely. 134 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,360 But that's that's that's proof that it can work. 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,040 This is true. I mean, it's, isn't it David 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Mooney sausages? I think it is possibly. 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Well, my middle name is David, so there's something there did. 138 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,240 You know, work, you make magic out of anything. 139 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Because I don't know what you did there, but there was all the 140 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,440 sudden there was a link. Yeah. 141 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,200 Something happened. No, I've never actually, Well, 142 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,000 maybe. I don't think I've tried Mooney 143 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,600 sausages but I've heard they're very good. 144 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Have you ever had the right magician on like a form? 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,240 Yes, well. Because I get weird about 146 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,920 writing comedians. I'm sure I was about to say, 147 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,360 yeah, similar sort of thing. And whenever I the first time it 148 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 was weird, was getting car insurance and they're like, So 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,920 what do you do? And I didn't want to say 150 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,600 magician because because I barely was, was just just left 151 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,200 school starting to do it and it wasn't really. 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Hard time magicians, a weird term. 153 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Yeah, it sounds awful. So I decided what was that I 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,360 went for the girl actually felt a bit sorry for when she's like, 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,000 right, Well, we go like digital digital marketer because I had 156 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,280 like a Facebook page, you know what I mean? 157 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,560 I've never actually wrote Magician, but now and again I do 158 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 have to do it. And I mean, I'll go to any 159 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,800 lengths to not write Magician down because it of course then 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,960 questions can ask, you know? Yeah, but you don't need to 161 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,360 write it down. You just look at it, visualise, 162 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,400 and then all of a sudden it's down. 163 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,680 It's. Focused really, really hard. 164 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,480 I get I do get weird about saying comedian. 165 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Like for example, if I'm in a taxi and the guy goes, what do 166 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 you do? Oh yeah. 167 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,920 Sometimes I'll say all writer but then they ask me what you 168 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,200 write and one time a guy asked me what I write and I said 169 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,840 literature and then just left it there to make the fucking 170 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,040 talking. About that's not good. 171 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,360 Yeah, I've, it's a, it's a weird one because I think with 172 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,480 magician people, they can't just leave it there. 173 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,840 They want to say a trick, obviously so. 174 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,039 Seem exactly. They're like, tell me a joke. 175 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,120 Yeah, that's worse than do a trick, Yeah. 176 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,120 That's way worse. But do you? 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,120 Will you always do it or? If they ask, I'll do it. 178 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,320 Yeah, if they ask, I'll do it. I mean, because you don't want 179 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,360 to meet a magician and the one magician you meet not do any 180 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,880 magic, you know what I mean? It kind of ruins it for 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,440 everyone. So I will do something. 182 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,880 It is tricky though. If it's like a taxi, what do you 183 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,080 do? He's driving the car, you know 184 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,200 what I mean? So you have to. 185 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,080 All of a sudden you cut your fingers and you're driving it 186 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,400 and he's in the back. I see that. 187 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,760 Would be. I wish I could use magic for 188 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,000 actual useful stuff like that, not just not just tick tock. 189 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,520 What's your go to? What's your go to? 190 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Go to well, it depends. I mean, if I'm with the person 191 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,040 and there's no barrier like a car for example, they're really 192 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,200 quick car trick or something like that. 193 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,640 Some really fast tricky in Northern Ireland in the winter 194 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,120 where your hands are reason cold. 195 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,720 That's a tricky one. Or the. 196 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Magicians can't work here for four months. 197 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,000 We're. Actually useless no I did an 198 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,760 event the other day and it was it was indoor but it was Saint 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Georges market and are in I was like I don't know if I still 200 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,520 have this in my hand like locked free. 201 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,520 Did one in Yuri couple years back and I had to just revert to 202 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,520 just basically chatting to people towards them because I 203 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,280 just couldn't do it. Hands locked, freezing gold. 204 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 The ultimate trick in Yuri would be taking diesel and turn it 205 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,360 red. That would be. 206 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,760 My uncle's very good at that. He's magalbris #1 magician. 207 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,440 He actually is, Yeah, the joke is true, yeah. 208 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,440 Which we work together now is. I've only done a few gigs in 209 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Yuri now and a half the the both being interesting ones. 210 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Well, I will loads of stuff. I want to ask you, but I only 211 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,200 know performing from a comedy point of view and and there's 212 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,200 comedy clubs, there's established comedy nights and 213 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,480 you want to be a comedian, You go to your spot there and you go 214 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,400 to that one. But magic seems like something 215 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,480 that there's not like, unless you tell me different. 216 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:17,640 It doesn't seem to be like a circuit where once a month this 217 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,920 venue has a magic night that's. Not really. 218 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Well, there's there's one in Belfast, but that's only recent, 219 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,840 maybe four years ago. There's one, it's not even on 220 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,600 the minute because I because I could obviously, but it was 221 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,000 called Midweek Magic and that's kind of one of the, it's like 222 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,160 the one place I went to test new stuff and it was black box and 223 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,680 you know the green room. Yeah, me too. 224 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,600 Yeah, a few people I know are like that. 225 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,320 It's a good, good starter spot. I did my first ticket to there 226 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,600 as well and the green room, good fun. 227 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,640 But they did a night called Midweek by the way. 228 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 It was good fun. Did you? 229 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,760 My first ticketed show? No way. 230 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,760 Yeah. Big room. 231 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Say any. Say any food on three that just 232 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,560 comes in. Say any food that comes in your 233 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:57,400 head on three. So you know what's mad is when 234 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,240 you're a magician, the pressure now is on is like, he should get 235 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,680 that right, even if it's not the same thing. 236 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:04,960 We'll get this right ready. Go are we talking favourite food 237 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,920 or is that no? Just a food that's in your head. 238 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Yeah, have it, have it. So I've got, I feel like I've 239 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,200 got yours. I don't know if you have 123 240 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,560 avocado. Avocado. 241 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 So yeah, I did week magic. It may have. 242 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Sounded like I said something different there, but I did 243 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,640 actually say avocado. It's just, I just, I need a 244 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 drink of water. See, I just misspoke very 245 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,760 quickly, but we're In Sync. I mean, midweek magic. 246 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,760 I mean, I don't know. I think I don't even really want 247 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,240 my. I feel like I want weekend 248 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,320 magic. This was the thing, it was on a 249 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Wednesday night, you know what I mean? 250 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,680 She didn't really get a mad crowd. 251 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:37,040 I know where mad. They had problem. 252 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Mad Magic. You know what's a weirdo? 253 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Because I growing up in Bangor, I thought I was the only 254 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,600 magician in the country. Because there was like in London 255 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,160 you have the magic circle and stuff like that. 256 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 But here I didn't think there was anything like that. 257 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,800 So when I heard about this magic night, I was like, holy smokes, 258 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,640 there's there's more of us and there are, there's not many, but 259 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,520 there's a few. It is very much like that. 260 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,680 Yeah. And it we're a very odd group, I 261 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:01,320 have to tell you. I don't. 262 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,040 It's a straight, it's a strange thing. 263 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,600 I mean, I certainly was the youngest by a good few years, 264 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,560 like at least 10 years. And still, I'm weirdly haven't 265 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,960 been a whole lot of new young people that have kind of sprung 266 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 it up, which is obviously good for me for night, but. 267 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,480 That's. It's strange, you know? 268 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,560 It's not that different to comedy really in that I think 269 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,320 when I was starting there was quite a few people in their like 270 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,840 1819, my age doing it and then and now the youngest people, or 271 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,640 maybe I'm just getting older, the youngest people doing to 272 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 feel like they're like mid 20s. There's no. 273 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Like people drop off as well. There's a lot of people that 274 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,800 kind of start and they'll will do it and then so don't. 275 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,160 But you know that's I want. To know about like those first 276 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,360 gigs, but like take me backs you're saying about growing up 277 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,040 in Bangor, I feel like everyone gets it. 278 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Everyone has that time where you see your first card trick from 279 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,720 like your dad or an uncle or someone and that if that doesn't 280 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,600 ignite, you want them to do that trick. 281 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,280 I don't know who you are because as soon as you see a card trick, 282 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,720 you, you want to do it. Teach me how to do that. 283 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,240 And the first time you get taught it and you do it in front 284 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,640 of the people, that is such like a rush. 285 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,880 It's an addiction, like for sure. 286 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,160 I think that's what keeps most people doing it, you know? 287 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:15,080 My my first one was thing was my dad got a pen sitting side by 288 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,320 side in the sofa. He drew a circle. 289 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:23,600 He said one I'll make his pen disappear 2-3 and all of a 290 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,440 sudden gone. No pet. 291 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,120 No, I don't want it. Just in case you want to use 292 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,080 that. I don't want to tell you how he 293 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,080 does. It I know. 294 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,720 But, but let's just say on the back of the sofa there might 295 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,320 have been a pen and there might have been. 296 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,120 But when I saw that I couldn't explain it. 297 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,320 I thought I have seen real magic. 298 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,480 And then he told me it and then when I showed it to people. 299 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Yes, that that. Feeling is as a kid, you're 300 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,160 like. Old would you been? 301 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,720 22. You know what? 302 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:58,000 Most magicians do get into magic in their 20s. 303 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,360 Like weirdly enough, I always thought most people were just 304 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,280 like me because it was 5 or 6 years old for me. 305 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,480 But most people, it's older and they get into it usually as a 306 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,240 way to pick up girls. That's what I that's what I 307 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,880 find. Yeah. 308 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,480 Yeah. And then they find they actually 309 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,480 like it and they kind of keep it up. 310 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,440 But did you and find it doesn't work on picking up crazy 311 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:17,800 anyways, you know a by least you can do magic tricks, Yeah? 312 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Did you, would you say about you were five or six? 313 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Yeah. Did you see some? 314 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Was something on TV you saw or? Or it wasn't. 315 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,320 First trick I saw was in real life and it was because my Papa, 316 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,160 grandfather, he wasn't still his big fan of Magic, especially 317 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Paul Daniels. He used to watch him on the TV. 318 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,640 So we were out in Orlando. I figure it was where is it 319 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,160 where there's Disneyland? Paul Daniels. 320 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,720 Me and Paul Daniels, we were having a good time and it was 321 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,160 weird he was hanging out with a 5 year old. 322 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,800 That was strange looking back. But he could, if people looked 323 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,000 at your passport, he could change the age on it just like 324 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:49,520 that's. True. 325 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,640 You know, it's very yeah, I can't. 326 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,200 I laugh. But anytime was at magic clubs, 327 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,960 I always was so, so young. I remember the first time I was 328 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,120 dropped off at a magic club, my mom, like didn't leave. 329 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,560 She stayed. She was like, this is, yeah. 330 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,880 Weird, you drop your kid off at a. 331 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Moment. Well. 332 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,040 What you find as well as you hear, like magic club, that's so 333 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,600 cool, it's like a wizard school, but really it's just a bunch of 334 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 guys drinking pints, like showing each other car tricks, 335 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,840 you know what I mean? Anyway. 336 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,360 You were on a family trip to Orlando. 337 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,400 Family trip to Orlando and five or six years old and there's a 338 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Magic shop not there anymore shut down sadly called Magic 339 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,360 Masters and Papa wheeled me in there and we stayed for most of 340 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,000 the holiday. That was that was kind of it 341 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Nobody else had any interest but they. 342 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,600 I remember the tricks pretty vividly and I remember being 343 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,200 really shorts. I couldn't quite see the tricks 344 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,320 he had to hold me up type thing but most people think getting 345 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,280 the magic because they're like that's really cool I want to do 346 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 it for me it was that pisses me off. 347 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,120 I don't know how you did that that's me so teach me I want I 348 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,120 want the logic behind it. You know, that's always been 349 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,480 what it has been for me. Like obviously, you know, yeah, 350 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,840 Rush and the entertainment is fun, but like I just problem 351 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,760 solving head turns on them like high on earth. 352 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,800 So that's what it was more of a problem solving thing as opposed 353 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,200 to I want to do this for other people, you just wanted to. 354 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Know it was a selfish thing for sure yeah. 355 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,800 Which I think you get into magic for two reasons. 356 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,520 Either that and there's less people get into for that reason. 357 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Usually those people end up creating magic rather than 358 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 performing it. Or you get into out of like a 359 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,400 place of insecurity. And it's quite a quick 360 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,000 fraudulent way to impress people, you know. 361 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,560 So you do get a lot of people who maybe don't have social 362 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,720 skills, whatever will get into magic. 363 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,640 And it's a good thing. It is a crutch, I'll say that. 364 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,240 But yeah, yeah, it is a good thing. 365 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 So I got into it. I just like high on Earth. 366 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,920 And still now if I see a trick, can't figure it out, wrecks my 367 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,720 head. So except for ours and ours 368 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,960 trying to piece it together, you know? 369 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Yeah. Because. 370 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Because I would think the longer you do it, the more I would 371 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,320 think you could look at any trick in the world. 372 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,320 I know, but is every trick so different? 373 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Well, no, I think it's more that magicians, we are quite creative 374 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,440 people. So there's always new stuff 375 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,360 coming out and there's no way aligned to it. 376 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 But like comedy, I mean, you're hopefully never going to run out 377 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,160 of jokes. People just keep coming up with 378 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,600 new tricks. And I mean, I hope, I mean, 379 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,440 we'll see. Yes. 380 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,040 For me it was just it was that I wanted to figure out how the 381 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,360 tricks were done and just kind of kept that. 382 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,960 I do remember the first one I ever because my Papa bought me 383 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,400 the tricks, which is another weird double standard magic, 384 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,000 which is you can't reveal the secret. 385 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,640 Yeah, unless you like pay up. So it's like, OK, if you're 386 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,000 charging for it, you know what I mean? 387 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,960 Anyway, paid up, got this little card trick and got a trick with 388 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:10,839 that. You might even seen it. 389 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,240 It was a pen trick as well actually, where you stick a pen 390 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,040 through a banknote and then RIP the banknote and it goes back 391 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,079 together. So it was my first 2 tricks and 392 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,119 got a Marvin's Magic kit from a friend Christopher. 393 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,480 That was it. When did you, when did you see 394 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,280 that? When did you start to go oh I 395 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,240 want to perform these? Straight away, straight away. 396 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,680 As soon as I got it, I was back to the hotel and I was 397 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,840 practising. I have a weird memory because in 398 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,360 the, I don't know, it must be an apartment. 399 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:37,160 We were standing or hotel or something. 400 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Got robbed. I remember my first thing was 401 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,160 like, oh, I wonder was the magic trick storm? 402 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,640 And I wasn't. So I sat in the hot tub inside. 403 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 What a weird vibe. This is actually learning a card 404 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,480 trick in a hot tub at six years old. 405 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,280 I remember that. It was pretty good. 406 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Never kind of topped up. Yeah. 407 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,120 So much self-confidence back then. 408 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,800 Don't have anymore. I was, yeah, weirdly remember 409 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,320 that vividly, like. And then I just kind of kept 410 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,080 learning them, you know, I didn't know anything else. 411 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,240 That was it. And I used to find it weird 412 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,640 growing up being like, what do people do in their spare time if 413 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:07,720 they're not learning magic tricks? 414 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,600 Could never understand. I was just. 415 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,720 That was everything that I did. You thought they were. 416 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,880 They were the weird ones, correct? 417 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's strange because of 418 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,480 magic. The most interesting part is the 419 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,240 stuff you're not really meant to talk about. 420 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,200 So you have this huge part of your life, which is like this 421 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,440 big secret that you spent all this time by yourself. 422 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,280 So in my head, I was like, well, what do people fill that time 423 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,600 with? You know, I'm just sitting. 424 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,360 I remember being so little that I couldn't understand what the 425 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,120 magic books meant. So my mom used to sit for Simon. 426 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,200 She would read through the pages and kind of tell me how the 427 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,640 tricks worked. Then eventually I learned how to 428 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,560 read, which was a good moment in my life. 429 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Read the magic books herself. And at what point do you go want 430 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,480 to be a performer like like on a stage or you want to take it 431 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,800 more seriously, Imagine like as supportive as your parents maybe 432 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,040 were. It's a tough one that to to go, 433 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,200 you know. You know yourself. 434 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,000 It's it's one of those things. You know, uni and stuff sounds 435 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,560 great. Magician. 436 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,200 I want to be a magician. Let's see what the comedian like 437 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,120 it. It totally you. 438 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:06,160 Worry about I definitely worried about what people would say, not 439 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,320 my parents, but I was worried about what the general reaction 440 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,080 people think 100% do this. Oh, my dad, he like lectured at 441 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,320 Queen's uni for a while and stuff. 442 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,920 So and they both went to uni. So that was kind of the route 443 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,960 that was meant to take credit to mom and dad, they were really 444 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,720 good. They let me take a, a gap year 445 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 and then it's like another gap year and another gap year and I 446 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,240 think I'm on gap year number 59, you know. 447 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,320 So they were good. Their whole thing was if they 448 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,040 saw me working hard, they didn't really mind. 449 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,920 So I did my levels. That was the deal with do my 450 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,960 levels and get a year and nothing really did happen in 451 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,520 that first year, but I wanted to do it when I was really little 452 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,880 credit like to me in a way. I knew that that was going to be 453 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,320 a weird conversation to have at 18, so I started doing shows 454 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,320 early so I would at least there was something there by the time. 455 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,800 I. Like I got my first job at 11. 456 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,000 I was doing, there's a cabaret club in Belfast and I used to go 457 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,560 around the tables doing magic tricks at the little booth. 458 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,600 So I got that and it was that was I think probably the first 459 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,080 like residency gig or whatever I had. 460 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,640 So 1111 you. Get it? 461 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Do you ever get? Definitely wasn't you getting. 462 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,120 Any shit or? People Oh yeah, yeah. 463 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,000 Load Well, I got more the older I got. 464 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,720 Like when I was younger at 11, they were like, oh, bless them, 465 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,680 you know, and then you do something good and it would be 466 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,920 good. But I, I stopped that when I was 467 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,520 16 and I was at the point where I was looking to do more stage 468 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,360 stuff and less close up. But the abuse started to get 469 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:18,000 worse and worse and worse. You know, which you have to 470 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,400 expect part of the fun, to be honest. 471 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,160 You know, if you can learn to do cabaret, you can do most crimes. 472 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,360 I can understand people. Giving shit to someone like me, 473 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,360 like a comedian on stage who's going I'm funny because people 474 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:30,920 do find that like people take that kind of personally of like 475 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,720 how, how dare you think you're funny. 476 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,120 But do my I, I can't imagine, but you're telling me different. 477 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:39,280 I can't imagine people giving shit to someone who's doing 478 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,440 tricks. It's less like. 479 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Oh. He's in the box. 480 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,840 It's not. Really, that thing, it's more 481 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,680 than I think. And to be honest, I've only got 482 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,040 it really in Northern Irish, Northern Ireland, when I travel 483 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,280 to other places, do shows, I don't really get this as much, 484 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,640 but they're more just having the crack, you know what I mean? 485 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,320 But when you're doing magic and a big part of supposed to show 486 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 is that some things have to say secret, you're nervous about 487 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 people striking stuff out. I'm not so much anymore because 488 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,320 I've done enough shows to know that people don't. 489 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,360 It's more like wisecrack uncles. They'll try and ruin the trick 490 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,480 on purpose type thing. It's less shouting out from the 491 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,600 audience. It'll usually be someone on 492 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,600 stage. You know, because you do. 493 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Is there? Any audience interaction, like 494 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,320 on stage, in your in your show? Oh, so much, yeah. 495 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,440 And you know, you just. Have no idea what you're what's 496 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,040 going to happen. That is part of the fun though. 497 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,320 You know well exactly that makes. 498 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,000 It yeah, I think I'm literally saying the podcast before this 499 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,360 that we that we recorded that when when you do crowd work and 500 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,920 stand up, people find it so impressive because they know 501 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,040 that they go and see you and you're telling stories and 1% of 502 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,800 people will think every night this is a totally different show 503 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,120 and he's making this up from scratch. 504 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,000 You're not you've been working on these stories, trying to make 505 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,600 punch lines better, all that sort of thing. 506 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,720 But when you're doing off the cuff crowd work, the audience 507 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,120 go. I'm not saying it's magic. 508 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,000 But the audience go, this is unplanned. 509 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,440 And they're like, I think they can. 510 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720 I think they can look at it and go, well, I could get up there 511 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,120 and tell a story. I don't know how funny, but I 512 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,560 could do it. But when you do good crowd work, 513 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,280 I think they go, well, that's what I couldn't do. 514 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Yeah, I think is what? Separates from good magicians as 515 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,120 well as the ability to do that different sort of thing. 516 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,440 But, yeah. And I think a good magic show 517 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,840 should feel like it's happening once and it's not going to 518 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,680 happen again as well. That was always my problem with 519 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,680 the really, like, big box Vegas stuff is you could tell every 520 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,800 night the girl gets in the box, she gets cut. 521 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Yeah. And that's just for me. 522 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,960 That stuff's amazing. And I couldn't do it nor afford 523 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,880 to get those big props. I like one comedian. 524 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,240 When I go and watch comedian, he fucks around and I go, I know he 525 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,720 didn't mean to say that, but he just thought of it on the spot 526 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,800 and he's enjoying it. Yes. 527 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,120 Like I like to see. I think it's more fun 528 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,840 definitely. And if you do have a show, this 529 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,320 audience interactive, just by nature, it's going to be 530 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,360 different every night anyway because every single person is 531 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,440 different for the most part. But how did it go down in 532 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,400 school? Like what? 533 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,440 What sort of school life did you have? 534 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Because it's. It's it's. 535 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,440 Weird. I try to be honest, looking 536 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,920 back, like in hindsight it was grand, you know, I never got 537 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,080 like ferociously bullied or anything for doing the magic 538 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,240 thing. Like I know some people did. 539 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,680 But I think that's in fairness, people were pretty nice to me. 540 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520 I went to an all boys school, so I just there was no pressure for 541 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,520 me like use magic to like impress a girl or something. 542 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,760 So I just kind of I used it just to have the crack, you know what 543 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,080 I mean? And I didn't really do a lot of 544 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040 magic in school in fairness, more for the teachers have 545 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,240 anything like the teachers like watching it and that was cool. 546 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,560 I used to tell teachers their bank pin codes and stuff when I 547 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,240 started doing the that was fun. I usually don't wear some 548 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,800 tights. See even not. 549 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Like you're saying that like just like a quick one? 550 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,240 I can't fathom, you know, I like, you know if. 551 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,880 You guess a pin code. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 552 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,040 I. Can't understand. 553 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,520 I can't understand that I can't understand. 554 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,400 That's a whole different side of. 555 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,080 It so I started doing all the classic card magic and 556 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,120 manipulation stuff, all that and pickpocket in classic stuff. 557 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,480 And then at some point I made a shift to the mind reading. 558 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,320 Not it's not psychic like obviously it's there's a trick, 559 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,280 yeah. And so I moved into that and 560 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,840 then got really into the hypnosis stuff, realised that 561 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,640 wasn't for me because it was just a bit too serious, you 562 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,680 know, and there is a bit of risk with it as well. 563 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,600 Then kind of move back more towards just the magic thing. 564 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,800 And then now I mix them, you know, like the pickpocket stuff. 565 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,200 Like, that is nearly one of the most impressive things. 566 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600 Yeah, that's, that's cool. Still all magic like that. 567 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,280 Is like when you just take someone unaware like that's as. 568 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,320 I was pickpocketed once as well and I didn't spot it. 569 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,240 And I think after that happened, I remember then seeing a guy 570 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560 called Apollo Robbins and I kind of saw he's an amazing guy. 571 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Should watch his Ted talk. He pickpockets people after he 572 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,000 tells them he's going to do it. So he'll he'll look at you and 573 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,640 say in a minute, I'm going to steal your belt. 574 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,920 You won't catch me. And he steals their down belt 575 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,280 and you're like high on earth. But when it happens to you, you 576 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,920 don't see it. So I don't do as much of that 577 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,320 after I heard a Horror Story friend of mine, he's doing an 578 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,640 event, wealthy people of that event, big, good booking, good 579 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,320 booking and stole this guy's Rolex off his wrist, which is 580 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,880 cool. But also he dropped the Rolex 581 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,320 and smashed the face. So after that I was like, I just 582 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,760 don't know. I just don't know. 583 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,680 I mean, I would do with a Magician Casio. 584 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,680 Or something like. His they would survive anything. 585 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,640 I have a few myself. No hate. 586 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,080 No hate. I have a few myself if a 587 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 magician. Smashed the face of my Casio. 588 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,080 I would say it's alright mate, don't worry, just fix it, yeah? 589 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,520 And I like. Surely that's part of the deal, 590 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,120 you know what I mean? Yeah, he could track. 591 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,840 Do people ever do? That sort of shit where they're 592 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,000 like, they do listen. Sort that out for me, can you 593 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,080 do? You know what's funny You? 594 00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:24,960 Get two types of. Two types of people where what 595 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,880 you'll get say this is classic when I used to do tables and 596 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Cadbury as you do the tricks and you get the same stuff every 597 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,640 single night and you know yourself, you hear the same 598 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,120 things every single night. The classic one is you meet my 599 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:42,960 wife, disappear and you're like good one mate, good one and he's 600 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,440 like no man. Like seriously. 601 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,880 Seriously. Yeah, it comes up to you. 602 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,120 And the wife wants the exact same thing as well. 603 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,080 And the other one was you make the bill disappear, make the 604 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,840 bill disappear and you're like, oh, good one, good one. 605 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,280 And I was a real. Now I I'll kind of call them 606 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,440 like I have a fun with it. Back then I was like a real 607 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,360 people pleaser. So I'd smile, laugh along with 608 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,000 it as well. But you know after the 900 and 609 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,240 then you go and pay their. Bill Yeah. 610 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Yeah, it's magic. I make nothing off the night. 611 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240 So you hear there was ones, but then what you get is yet people 612 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,880 and I should do something and you'll be like a good one. 613 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,800 And then you realise they're being serious. 614 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,680 You know they're being absolutely. 615 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600 So you get asked for lottery numbers all the time. 616 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520 I'll get asked to gender reveals to get asked to do like dicing 617 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,520 to see what gender the child is, things like that, you know, and 618 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,800 you don't want to offend them by laughing because sometimes 619 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,960 they're being deadly serious, you know, and sometimes they'll 620 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,520 ask you to do things, which I suppose in their head they 621 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,240 thinks possibly like that is like you'll do a card trick 622 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,440 right on whatever happens, card jumps to the top of the pack and 623 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,000 they're like, well done. And then they'll just suggest 624 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680 something outrageous like could you make go on that light bulb? 625 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,560 And you're like, I believe you think I can do that, and I look 626 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,840 awful, but I can't do that. The worst was, you know, the 627 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,280 magician Dynamo. Yeah, yeah. 628 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,200 He was like, right at the primers fame whenever I was just 629 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,480 starting to do starting to do gigs. 630 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,400 And the classic 1 you get all the time is can you put my 631 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,640 mobile phone in the glass bottle? 632 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,160 You'd get that all the time. And like, if you went up to 633 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,640 Dynamo and asked him to do that, there's a chance he might not be 634 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,240 able to do that either, you know what I mean? 635 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,080 So because there's a certain amount of prep. 636 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,960 But yeah, people do expect, like, actual miracles. 637 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,840 And of course, you can do some stuff which would rival that 638 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,400 point. I kind of want to choose. 639 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,560 I was going to ask if you take us up. 640 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,880 To 1000 patrons, I will I. Will I take cash for jobs like 641 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,520 that? You're. 642 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,200 All the accounts I don't, I am, yeah. 643 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,560 It's not really magic, but I mean it gets the job done. 644 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,760 What? What's like? 645 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,680 No, I, I can't be a hypocrite here because I I do material, 646 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,280 but being a comedian, it's one of the only jobs for people 647 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,360 asking for a live demonstration of your job when you say you do. 648 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,440 Yeah. So I, I'm hesitant to say you 649 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,280 show us a little bit of something because I would love 650 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,080 to, but if, but I worry saying that because that's like if I 651 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,760 was on a podcast, someone can tell us a joke. 652 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,720 I don't really have one liners so I'd have to go only really 653 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,160 tell stories and I don't know. But I would love to see. 654 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,640 Something, but I understand if you I I. 655 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,520 Have to tell you the truth, yeah. 656 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,560 I do all this stuff on. Camera. 657 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,520 I can't do anything in real life, right? 658 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,560 It's all fake, right? Yeah. 659 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,280 Fair. So. 660 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,400 Like and what was the moment? No, I'd love to show you that 661 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,320 love to show you something. I see how much we can get you 662 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,160 boys down the back involved as well, but of fun. 663 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040 I have you so have you seen have you seen many magicians live 664 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,200 before? I was like, he's going to. 665 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,720 Have to ask us to cut that after the. 666 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,120 You know what's funny as well is you do get more and more. 667 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,600 There's a lot of. I'll keep this here. 668 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Don't want to be a bad boy. There's a lot, by the way. 669 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,480 See No. Anything you do, I'm watching. 670 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,960 It's like you setting something up. 671 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,280 That's the other thing is. See, as a magician, people just 672 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,640 watch you for the weirdest stuff. 673 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,560 I was doing a live YouTube show last weekend and after I did all 674 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,080 the tricks, I was in the green room after showing tricks review 675 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,080 and I actually had so I've I've bad discs in my back so and I 676 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,760 had like sciatica going down my legs. 677 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,200 So I'm shifting around my chair like this. 678 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120 They're like, what's he doing? What is he doing? 679 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,960 I'm like, my back is really sore. 680 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,560 Leave me alone. Or you might like reach in your 681 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,240 pocket to take out your phone or yeah. 682 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,520 Yeah, but I also. Understand that because that's 683 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880 me when I go see a magic show too, like the guy walks from one 684 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,240 side of the stage to the other, like what's he getting? 685 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760 He's getting something, you know, and usually to be fair to 686 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760 them, usually I'm doing something so right. 687 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,200 They are right to watch it in fairness. 688 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,160 But I always going to say is jokes aside, like I joke about 689 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,800 them not being able to do tricks like that is like a problem 690 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,120 that's happening these days is you get a lot of these magicians 691 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,400 who they'll do magic on social media because it's a low barrier 692 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,840 entry to pokes on the line. Like, but then they'll get 693 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520 booked for a show and they've never, never, ever done a trick 694 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,520 their person in in real life because they've learned it over 695 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,160 lockdown or whatever. Well, that's like. 696 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,640 People that maybe do sketches and get known for like, or maybe 697 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200 like, you know, around to the camera, Yeah, where it's got 698 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400 punch lines, but it's not stand up. 699 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,360 And I'm not. Yeah. 700 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,680 As time's going on, I'm. I'm less snobby about stand up. 701 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,960 You might see someone like that say they're doing a live show in 702 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480 the waterfront. There are times, I'll admit, 703 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,400 where I would have been like, they shouldn't be allowed to do 704 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,880 that. Yeah, you know, and now I'm not 705 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:00,920 fair. I get fucking. 706 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,600 Go. I'm like. 707 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Do it for it, but you should know that that will be really 708 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,280 different to stand up 100%. You see it take venues on and 709 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,400 and when it in front of a live audience. 710 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,280 You can see people just not have that comfort where if they are 711 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,080 naturally funny, which a lot of people, if there's people on on 712 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,480 tech talk and they get on and rant about a new subject once a 713 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,960 day. If you have like funny bones and 714 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,480 decent delivery, you can make it work. 715 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,560 You could. Get in but. 716 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440 Just get in at the bottom level and enjoy it and learn. 717 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,960 I think that I think it. Is smart when you're doing Gates 718 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,520 particularly, it's good to start small. 719 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,240 I mean, I'd be mortified now if the next gig I was going to do 720 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600 was a huge theatre and I hadn't done all those shows back in the 721 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,520 day. I think that builds those. 722 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,560 Yeah, exactly. You also. 723 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,960 Enjoy being the person with the person on the bill with no 724 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,720 pressure. You know you're doing a 5 minute 725 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040 spot. Yes, enjoy that because you get 726 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,840 the mess around and you get to do it wrong. 727 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,720 That's what that thing. Midweek magic was for me back in 728 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,200 the day, but it was also a great night. 729 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,320 It was good fun. But you had the choice of doing 730 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,840 a wee stand up. And that's when I started doing 731 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,160 stand up. Rather than doing it in the 732 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Cavalry Club with 100 people where they would just hurl abuse 733 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,240 at you. I'd rather do it in a kind of 734 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,000 safe part where they're there to see magic as well. 735 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,280 Yeah. Like doing a comedy night, like, 736 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,440 although maybe you get some headers. 737 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000 They are there primarily to have a good night, you know what I 738 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160 mean? But it's better going in there 739 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,800 rather than cold, like a corporate event. 740 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Yeah. And you've never done the trick 741 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360 before that, which, you know, that's palsy. 742 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,240 Yeah, well, with that said, I should probably do something and 743 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,720 say, oh, what's in my pocket, what am I doing? 744 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080 What am I doing? Oh, should we do a card trick? 745 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,400 Everyone needs to everyone. I'll be impressed. 746 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,240 By everything, can you just pretend to be? 747 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:33,840 Impressed. No. 748 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000 No, Genuinely. Mad. 749 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,760 Like the first magic I remember watching a lot of was David 750 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Blaine. Unreal, I was watching. 751 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,600 One of his TV specials yesterday. 752 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640 I love him, he's amazing, but I I'm. 753 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,640 So impressed. But yeah, I'm so impressed. 754 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,960 But you know, I remember. There was a magician, Criss 755 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,880 Angel, right in the States, Yeah. 756 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,720 And I was obsessed with him as a kid. 757 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,360 And I came across an old interview with him from was like 758 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,080 Hard Stern. I think it gave me the fear. 759 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,240 This is this is years ago. I saw this because he does the 760 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,560 trick and then Hard Stern just breaks down exactly how he did 761 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,960 it right after that, which was funny because it was a really, 762 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,560 it was a really obvious trick. It was so uncomfortable to 763 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,400 watch. And he was kind of like, because 764 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,040 he's pure, like my freak and all that. 765 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,320 But the magic is. Actually, it's the illusion. 766 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,760 It's a presentation. It's all, it's all the thing. 767 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,760 And there's lots. I was. 768 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,800 I went on Nolan last year and I was like, is this lad just gonna 769 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,800 watch and then reveal exactly how this trick is? 770 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,040 But but of course they don't know I because it's it's hard to 771 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,040 remember that not everyone knows how the tricks done. 772 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,160 Like when you've done 100 times and you can see what you're 773 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 doing, you know what I mean? But eh, the question is, I was 774 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,640 about to say, I wonder will I move in a little bit tighter 775 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,080 see, because. My some sets a light. 776 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,520 I firmly. Believe that when I went 777 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,120 downstairs and me a peeing coffee he. 778 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,600 Did something there when? He did that. 779 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,000 We did I. Threw him a tenner and we just, 780 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,520 yeah, we sort of, you know, I used to do that sometimes 781 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,800 whenever I did early gigs. This is this is another mad 782 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,440 story. When I started doing cabaret, 783 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 actually, I had to be followed around by a bodyguard like one 784 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,840 of the bouncers because I wasn't meant to be there. 785 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,840 Like I was too young and that. So this massive big tall guy and 786 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,200 he was sweetheart type. Like when he used to hug me when 787 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,680 I came in, I thought I was going to suffocate. 788 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Huge big man. But we figured out because he 789 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,680 was following me every week, we may as well just take advantage 790 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,320 of that. So I used to have him doing like 791 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,640 the system bits behind the scenes. 792 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,720 So he used to do this trick where I would take like a ring 793 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,560 and I would put it in my hand like this. 794 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200 And while they're looking here, I would sneak in the ring. 795 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,720 It's over there. And he would go round the back 796 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480 of the bar, stick on a wine glass, stick the glass back 797 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,560 together and then have one of the servers serve it to the 798 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,840 table. So I used to have loads of fun 799 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,080 getting not that I've done that with yourself, but just keep an 800 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680 eye on it does look like he could meddle, you know. 801 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:43,520 Oh, he looks. Like. 802 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,120 If ever a guy look like a magician's assistant, it's that 803 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,160 guy there. I see. 804 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Yeah. Like for the since I've started 805 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,840 hiring people, I have a like APA and if we're right in a bite, I 806 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,560 have to forget it's not OK to introduce him as my assistant 807 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,920 because people then think he's a magician's assistant, right? 808 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520 And like people don't like to imagine Tristan in a sparkly 809 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,560 dress. I found that out. 810 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040 They just they don't see him like that, but with a name like. 811 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,720 Tristan, that's a magician's assistant. 812 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,920 It is really. You know what I mean? 813 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,040 Yeah. And he would look good in a. 814 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,800 Sparkly dress if I was your assistant. 815 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,159 I would say I'm a magician's assistant because I'm not lying. 816 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960 Do you think it was very cool? No, you can't. 817 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,840 I don't have time. I would like to be like, if I if 818 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,080 you could teach. It's just, it's just a big 819 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,920 undertaking. Isn't it? 820 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,280 Yeah, It's a big undertaking, right? 821 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,320 Do you play cards at all? I play Jack, change it, it's a 822 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,600 good game. Professional. 823 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,320 Back to Vegas twice a year. This way here. 824 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:33,800 Oh, hang on, I want to turn back. 825 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,760 Maybe if I do. How is this? 826 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,120 Does that work? This is good. 827 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080 This is part of it. This is part of the show. 828 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,000 Yeah, that's because I look at. Them when they were saying that 829 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,320 so I don't know what you've you've done. 830 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,280 I'm actually just going to every. 831 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,360 Time I need them to look away. I'm going to mess my mic up on 832 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000 purpose. Well, that's good. 833 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,840 I'll. Tell you what, I'll leave the 834 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,000 coffee on the floor to save more space. 835 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,159 Do you know that's actually the hardest part of being a magician 836 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,440 is the mic management, because usually I have a Britney mic on 837 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920 or whatever because I kind of fancy myself as a bit of a 838 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,840 Britney. But yeah, that's the hardest 839 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,040 thing. You'd turn up the 8 gig and I 840 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,320 would forget to choose mics and you're having to do a full magic 841 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,840 show with like a handheld. That was a tricky 1. 842 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,400 Is the level above that. We're we're all right, right. 843 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080 So I figure camera here. I'm going to show the guys at 844 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,760 home. I mean you can you can kind of 845 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,520 observe and try and catch me out. 846 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Spoiler I won't be able. To he might. 847 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,320 He's smart. Smart guy, quite a little smart 848 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,520 guy. I'm going to flatter you first 849 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,960 and then hopefully be nicer. I know. 850 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,480 Can you see all the cards are different, Jen, can you see all 851 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,400 the cards? They're all different. 852 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,920 They are different. They're kind of ugly cards 853 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,960 actually. Shouldn't say that someone sent 854 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,240 me them, but they're they look like a like a, like a kids 855 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:33,840 painting, don't they? They're not, they're not 856 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640 perfect. Your choice. 857 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,360 Do you want, do you want to pick a card or do you want to think 858 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,840 of a card? I'll think of it as good that's. 859 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,480 Good. Think of a car. 860 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,680 OK, in that case, let's see. Let's see if we can if we can do 861 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,320 this. Alright, hang on, I'm going to 862 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,360 take a stab. OK, now you see, here's the. 863 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,400 Thing right this is. The car I'm thinking of, yeah. 864 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,400 I won't be able to. Really. 865 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,480 I don't think I'll do the rest. Maybe we're starting to big. 866 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Maybe keep thinking that we'll come to it in a second in that 867 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,360 case, because we don't want to start off with the best thing 868 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,960 first. We've got to got to work our way 869 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,760 down, right? We have the table between us. 870 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,760 If you were right here and have you poke your finger up. 871 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,240 If you tell me to stop what I go through, stop. 872 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,480 Here do. You want to go again? 873 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,320 Are you happy here? I'm happy there. 874 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,760 You're. Sure. 875 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,320 I'm going to put that there. Are there any mirror so I might 876 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,880 be able to see? If you show the reflections, 877 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,200 I'll close my eyes. I'll give you this. 878 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,760 Oh, that was a good shot. That was great. 879 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,520 Good shot. I'll close my eyes, you can show 880 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,280 the fellows in the studio. I'll shut my eyes like this away 881 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,040 from the mic, so you know my eyes really are shut. 882 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,480 Okay. Are you happy with that card? 883 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Well. It's not the. 884 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,040 One you were thinking of, any chance was it? 885 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,880 That would be weird. It's not the camera I was. 886 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,800 Thinking of or the part of thinking of? 887 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,480 Sorry, I feel like I'm on the love magics. 888 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,280 Hard. It's hard. 889 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,200 Yeah. Am I good? 890 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,800 Don't my be a shit assistant? Yeah, you can. 891 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,080 Open your eyes. Be a brilliant assistant. 892 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,680 It's a camera camera. Will be really good as. 893 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,840 If we were actually this was the setup and they thought that we 894 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,320 were messing around secretly, you were doing the magic. 895 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,360 Okay, I'm. I'm showing you guys at home one 896 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,440 more time. The cards are different. 897 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,840 That is important. You're happy with that one? 898 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,000 Yeah. You want to switch or you're 899 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,240 good. No, I forgot my. 900 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:02,440 Original card and I've remembered. 901 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,160 Yeah, well, you can change that. Anytime you want. 902 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520 I mean, no one's going to know but me, so it's all good. 903 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,320 OK. No, I remember. 904 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,800 Happy. Yeah, it's a lot of. 905 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200 It's a lot of thinking work for a magic trick, like it's a lot 906 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,400 of ears. I'll close my eyes again and you 907 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,440 throw the card back into the back face so I can't see. 908 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,720 So I'll kind of scatter them on here like this. 909 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,960 OK, I'm going to close my eyes and you go ahead and you throw 910 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440 the card in for me, probably. Oh, it's in already. 911 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,280 Yeah, Yeah, it's in. Oh, it's not that one, though. 912 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,960 You threw it in earlier, did you? 913 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,240 Sugar. OK, we might have to. 914 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,400 And we've infected. But I'll leave. 915 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,400 You know, it's fair. That's OK. 916 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640 So you picked the card, you saw the wrong were different and you 917 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,560 threw it in somewhere around them. 918 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,960 Yeah. OK. 919 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,200 So I obviously. Can't know what your card is, 920 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,760 more so where your card is. My eyes were shut. 921 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,400 I'm going to try to find it with one hand and if I can do it, all 922 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,680 I ask is just a polite round of applause just for my ego, you 923 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,640 know what I mean? That's all. 924 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,440 That's all I want. It can even be a one handed 925 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,480 right Now watch me because you might think I'm going to cheat. 926 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,120 I'm actually going to do what we call a square UPS. 927 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200 You know, sometimes traditions hold like funny breaks with 928 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,600 their fingers. Yeah, that's. 929 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:00,240 Fair. Isn't it? 930 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,520 Yeah, that's right. So we'll leave these right here, 931 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:02,440 OK? With one hand. 932 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,160 I'm left-handed, child of the devil. 933 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,200 That's what they tell me. So I've just shake like this, 934 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,480 shake like this, and then you go up like this, do like a little 935 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040 clink like that. And when you do that, a car 936 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,640 jumps to the top of the deck. Except it doesn't. 937 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,520 Wasn't it a hearts? Was it? 938 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,680 That would have been so good. Do you know what it was? 939 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,880 So usually there's a think card cart called card control, right? 940 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,880 So when you would have put the card in, I would have spotted it 941 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,880 and be able to see. But I can't see it. 2 rules in 942 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,520 Magic, right? First rule, Do you know what the 943 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,120 first rule is? No, never tell him how the trick 944 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,080 is done. That's the first one. 945 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,240 Second rule, it's never did the same trick twice. 946 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,720 Third rule, it's my own little rule. 947 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520 If you get a trick wrong, fucking own it. 948 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,120 You own it. So what am I going to do? 949 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,280 It definitely wasn't this one before. 950 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960 I move on. Was it close to that? 951 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,240 Yeah, it was. Yeah. 952 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,080 Really. Yeah. 953 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,040 Like close in number. Yeah, close. 954 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,520 Well. Yeah, close in number and face 955 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,640 colour. Yeah. 956 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,320 Was it really? Yeah, What was the? 957 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,120 I don't tell me just yet, I'll tear this one up. 958 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,160 What was the What was the card 5? 959 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Five hearts. I'll leave this here. 960 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,960 For a second, it was it was the five of hearts. 961 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,880 Let's see what we got. Let's say 55 of hearts. 962 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,880 You sure it was the five of hearts? 963 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:07,560 Yeah. You didn't think? 964 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,640 Is that the card you thought all over? 965 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,440 The card you picked? No, that was the one I. 966 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,120 Showed them second, if you know what I mean. 967 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,960 Yeah, 3. Three. 968 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,560 It was a three of. Diamonds that I showed you, 969 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,440 Let's see, was it? What was the three of Hang on, 970 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,600 let me see. I think we're missing the one I 971 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,640 pulled out of the deck. Was. 972 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,440 The second was the three. Which card did you? 973 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Pick. Which card did you pick when you 974 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,320 said think? Of any card now I. 975 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480 Forget that one. 03 of them. So it wasn't. 976 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,360 Oh, OK, OK. But not that it are. 977 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,920 OK. Three of three diamonds. 978 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200 OK, that's all right. Well, we can, we can improvise 3 979 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,040 this one. Yeah. 980 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,760 Right. OK, so that's that's tricky. 981 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,920 That's tricky. Can I borrow your hand? 982 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,600 I'm gonna have to stretch away from the mic for a second. 983 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080 You put out your hands and see if we can do this with, like, 984 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,720 kind of getting completely out of shock. 985 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:52,880 Can you still hear me? OK, hang on. 986 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Can you still hear me? OK. 987 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,800 OK. Look, Three. 988 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,960 It was definitely the three diamonds. 989 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,960 The bear might. You could have picked any card 990 00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,520 you wanted. Yeah. 991 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,840 Yeah, but it wasn't. It wasn't this one. 992 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,120 No. All right, so we'll leave this 993 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,880 on top of it and squeeze it between your hands. 994 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,480 So here's all the we'll mix these up, mix these up, shuffle 995 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,680 them. I can go back to my relaxed 996 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120 position. Whatever you do, do not move 997 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,320 your hands because I'm not see what to happen. 998 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,920 In fact, I'm going to take these little pieces. 999 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,120 Of the card that was not. To be reached towards me. 1000 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,880 I'm going to slip these inside. Slip them inside. 1001 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,920 Yeah. OK, we're going. 1002 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,200 To cover them all up like. This so right, We have a card 1003 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,240 that was not your card ripped up inside your hand and the card 1004 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,600 that you did pick, which was the three diamonds. 1005 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,320 Yeah, that's fair. And again, like, guys, could, I 1006 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,440 could, I had anyone who wanted squeeze tight, tight, tight, 1007 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,880 tight. The apprehend. 1008 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,960 Imagine nothing happened. It was a big waste of time. 1009 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,680 The word like worst position ever. 1010 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,680 Squeeze tight. Yeah, I'll do this. 1011 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,040 We're all adults. But let's pretend this does 1012 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640 something. That's always my. 1013 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,160 Favourite thing in magic is the magicians like as if they stalls 1014 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,440 anything, you know what I mean? All right, reach towards me. 1015 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,960 Reach towards me. Here's what's mad. 1016 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,040 Yeah, If I reach, lift up a little bit. 1017 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,680 If I reach it, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1018 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,880 I think this has worked. My hands are sweating but. 1019 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,680 It's making errors that's so mad because that. 1020 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,960 Part goes back together again. This is your fibre hearts. 1021 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120 Was that the one you said? Yeah, that's the one You. 1022 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,320 Is that the Wait? Hang on. 1023 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Hang on which? Means inside your hands. 1024 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,600 Yeah, those pieces. Check them out. 1025 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,680 Show the camera. It's three diamonds. 1026 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,080 Oh. Oh, but how? 1027 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,800 Hold on. Thank you. 1028 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,040 Thank you so much. Now I. 1029 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,320 Thought I'd. Messed that up. 1030 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,960 I never, never, never. Never never. 1031 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,320 That's honestly is half the fun of my job is just kind of like, 1032 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,880 Oh no shit, wait what? And then you see people panic 1033 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,160 then when the trick works but hold on, get more more mileage. 1034 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,080 The card. I saw you wrap it up, yeah. 1035 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200 And it was in. It and. 1036 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,920 Then but you you originally. Said to me, think of any card. 1037 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,640 Yeah. And I thought of a card anyway, 1038 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,280 I don't worry about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1039 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,120 And then I showed them the three diamonds. 1040 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,760 So they thought I'd pick the three diamonds. 1041 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,840 Yeah. But actually it was 2 cards 1042 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,920 because I'd thought of 1 and I'd picked 1. 1043 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,600 Double Wally. Tell you, but how did you give 1044 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,160 me? Give me the pieces, Give me the 1045 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,120 pieces. I'll get rid of this. 1046 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,960 We'll do. We'll do different. 1047 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,360 Tricks. Well, So what part's confusing 1048 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,960 you? I'll break it down for you. 1049 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,080 Because do you know what? After the show, we'll teach you 1050 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,480 one trick for real. Because everyone needs to know 1051 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,880 one card trick. You have the pen trick, but you 1052 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,000 need the card trick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1053 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,840 Why? Well. 1054 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,560 Well, well, you think I just have the pen trick? 1055 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,280 Oh, you see my? Thumb. 1056 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,320 Yeah. That is. 1057 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,000 Your thumb. What about that? 1058 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:45,200 Oh, see. That's beautiful. 1059 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,360 That is beautiful. And from my angle as well, that 1060 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,640 was perfect. Do you see another trick? 1061 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,600 Yeah. Please I have I can put a little 1062 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,960 man OK? Inside. 1063 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,200 My body and I can make him talk. Go. 1064 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,000 So what? How old? 1065 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,720 Is this man? 73. 1066 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,640 OK. So look, here he is. 1067 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,480 He's invisible. He is very. 1068 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,800 I was. Right to say because I don't see 1069 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,720 him. OK, so. 1070 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040 What do you want him to say? Because you can make him say 1071 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,640 anything. Your balls will. 1072 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,720 Thank you. OK, he does struggle. 1073 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,200 With the letter B. But here we go. 1074 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,320 Here he is. Ready. 1075 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:25,120 Yeah. And it does struggle with. 1076 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,000 The letter B your. Walls will thank you. 1077 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,280 OK, here we go. I think he's. 1078 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,440 He's waking up. Oh. 1079 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320 This is. Good as good do. 1080 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,440 You know what my favourite thing to do? 1081 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,320 For and actually, I'm really surprised you didn't because 1082 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,000 most people do. After I do that trick, everyone 1083 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,160 always says we'll put the three diamonds back together. 1084 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,600 So I have to take the pieces and squeeze them and then this is 1085 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,960 that I used to do that one. Check it. 1086 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,720 I. Already know you've done it. 1087 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,640 That's that's. But that does. 1088 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,120 You can check the pack if you want, but hold on hold. 1089 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,320 On you said right at the start of this, you didn't, you said 1090 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,960 think of any card, right and you didn't. 1091 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,000 I just thought of. That yeah, yeah. 1092 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:19,520 That's one of my feet, but I wasn't looking at it in the. 1093 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,960 Park when I thought of it, or was it? 1094 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,280 I think that's better. To be honest is when you have 1095 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,200 someone think of something, I'll tell you, I'm sure another one 1096 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,040 if you want. It's a bit more like that. 1097 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,080 Yeah. How you bought it is all of you. 1098 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,960 Actually, our phones are on an aeroplane, but can we take our 1099 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,680 phones off aeroplane? Well, I don't need to take mine 1100 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,040 off aeroplane for a second. I. 1101 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,040 Forgot that I set the phone under the table and I went to 1102 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,760 field for it. I went Where are you, bastard? 1103 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,320 That's. That's actually how I make my 1104 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,360 how I make my living. I just steal shit. 1105 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,600 You're just a thief. I. 1106 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,200 Am so you want. Me to take my. 1107 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:50,400 Phone off 30 WhatsApp. Notifications, I have never had 1108 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,560 that in my entire life. Everyone suddenly wants a hold 1109 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,040 of me when I get on this podcast is if I'm going to use the 1110 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,240 calculator right now. Listen, there's about how we 1111 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,200 doing doing on time. Ah, listen, we're flying because 1112 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,880 I like to bake this one up. All right, I'll tell you for a 1113 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,240 while because what always happens is I leave and you've 1114 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,640 always have conversations and people rationalise the weirdest 1115 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,440 things so I'm going to take you through a journey here. 1116 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,880 You want to come on a little journey with me? 1117 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,920 Yeah. OK lovely. 1118 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,960 Do you want to come on a journey? 1119 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,920 I think yeah, yeah, do. You guys take your phones as 1120 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,120 well I. Know these are working hard, but 1121 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,160 like we can, we'll multitask. We're not good at multitasking 1122 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,680 men. That's not what they say open. 1123 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,560 Oh maybe. Well, should we do it? 1124 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,400 Or the bonus round. OK, if you get this question 1125 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,720 right, you get a special price, right? 1126 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,240 OK, if anyone gets it right, you get a special price. 1127 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,560 So isn't mad. How much? 1128 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,200 Do you feel like you're regressing the childhood here, 1129 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,480 guys? There's. 1130 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,600 Something that is true. You're not the only person to 1131 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,560 say that. And it's, I think what it is, is 1132 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,960 that it, and it sounds really woo, but magic does kind of snap 1133 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,360 it into being really present. You're not thinking about what's 1134 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,920 happened this afternoon or what happened this morning. 1135 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,880 You are, which is kind of what it's like when you're a kid, you 1136 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,360 know, which sounds really deep. It's not really it's, it's a bit 1137 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,000 of magic, but there is a certain element of that. 1138 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,000 And like, what did you say that shit? 1139 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,240 Never is thinking about what's. Happening. 1140 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,240 That's what's joking. I make him disappointed talking 1141 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,480 about, you know. In this case, I shall, I shall, 1142 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,160 I shall. How long do you need him gotten 1143 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,200 for? Oh, just ever. 1144 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's fine. 1145 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080 You come come work for me. My my podcast. 1146 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,520 I don't have a podcast. I don't have a podcast. 1147 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,200 I don't have. A podcast? 1148 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,280 Do you pay stuff? No, I just. 1149 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,960 Hypnotise them. And that was the other two 1150 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,160 people used to make for years and years. 1151 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,160 I've been with my girlfriend 8 years and that was the class of 1152 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,680 Joe was like already hypnotise you because she's a lot better 1153 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,760 looking at me. So. 1154 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,560 And at one point was like stop, stop telling people how I'm 1155 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,160 doing it, you know? Yeah, yeah, I do. 1156 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,920 There's a girl who used to hypnotise people and when you 1157 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,000 hear this, I can't even say what the brand is because they 1158 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,760 sponsor me now. So I can't even tell them this. 1159 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,400 But there's a brand that may or may not sponsor me that I enjoy. 1160 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,280 And this girl used to hypnotise the staff in the place to get 1161 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,400 free product every time she went in. 1162 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,320 But then. I'll tell you, but we. 1163 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,640 Will have to come a night well tell us after but. 1164 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,600 Hypnosis. I feel like I'm, I'm. 1165 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,360 I don't feel like I'm. That was so funny. 1166 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,120 And you might not be. That's The thing is there's a 1167 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,240 lot of probably suppose hypnosis like everyone can be hypnotised. 1168 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:14,840 It's not not true. If you don't want to be, 1169 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,160 firstly, you won't be, you know. But I was at a show and there's 1170 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,320 a hypnotist and I was like, that was like, there's not a hope. 1171 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,960 I'm too, I'm too smart. I'm tuned in, you know what I 1172 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,440 mean? Hands were stuck together. 1173 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,280 I couldn't pull them apart. It was the weirdest thing. 1174 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,280 But I was too young to be at the hypnosis show. 1175 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,120 So he noticed that I'm stuck my hands and Darren Bryan 1176 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,560 hypnotised me as well, one of his shows. 1177 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,000 And that was, see, I feel like even if he hadn't, I would have 1178 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,680 played long because I wouldn't have wanted to ruin the show. 1179 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,520 But he stuck my arm right like that. 1180 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,720 It was a weird old thing, Yeah, but it's it's less, you know 1181 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,680 what? It's it's not as weird as you 1182 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,400 think. It's just suggestibility, like 1183 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,160 you say. I love. 1184 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,200 I love. Hand do cocktails. 1185 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,480 There's something about that you. 1186 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,280 Find people. Never been booked for a. 1187 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,440 Hand, do you actually believe it or not? 1188 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,520 It's like the one type of event that I haven't done. 1189 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,960 I've done a gig. At the Galway Comedy Festival 1190 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,360 where it was, the audience was 90% a hand do. 1191 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,160 Wow. And it was horrendous. 1192 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,960 Sure it was. So bad it. 1193 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,520 Was so many people we talking? Oh. 80 well, not 90%. 1194 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,000 Because that would be huge. But there was a big hand doing 1195 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,040 what cocktails? What cocktails do you like at 1196 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,400 this? Moment in my life, I don't 1197 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,880 drink, but if I were to drink, it'd be an espresso martini. 1198 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,160 Have you ever drunk? Yeah. 1199 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,600 Absolutely just. Just knocked in the head for a 1200 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,480 while. Not even Yeah. 1201 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120 Just I there was a phase there where I was getting the fear 1202 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,520 like halfway through a night out rather than the next morning. 1203 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,080 I was like, ah, there's something wrong here. 1204 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,800 I think part of it was as I was because, as I say, you get asked 1205 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,520 to do magic and sometimes opportunities would come up on a 1206 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,040 night out where you'd meet someone or whatever. 1207 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,240 And I always had this fear, like what if I meet like the one 1208 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,840 right person and I'm just clueless? 1209 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,960 So I usually stay away from it. But it's certainly not a thing 1210 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,320 for life, you know what I mean? Love a gin and tonic as well. 1211 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,920 Make it feels. Disappear. 1212 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,360 Certainly. Can. 1213 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,400 But you know what, I kind of live vicariously through my 1214 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,480 brother. He's just a header and he goes 1215 00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,640 out. Well, The thing is when you and 1216 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,400 you probably know this yourself, if you're doing a lot of events, 1217 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,200 often if it's a nice event, it'll be a free bar or or I can 1218 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,720 drink sponsor in the event. So he he takes them up on the 1219 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:10,920 offer. He absolutely does makes up for. 1220 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,200 Listen if I'm not. Drinking. 1221 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,120 He he may as well, you know what I'm saying? 1222 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,320 Yeah, I'm a tea man. In fact, I, well, I I went. 1223 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640 Coffee because I want a. Little boost, you know what I'm 1224 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,160 saying? But but do like but there's 1225 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,760 caffeine in tea. There is I. 1226 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440 So much there's as much caffeine in the cup of tea. 1227 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,240 And I didn't know that was true. Yeah. 1228 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:32,400 Is it is it that there's more in in tea or is it that like the 1229 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,600 tea bag itself has more caffeine, but you only guess. 1230 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,800 I don't know. There's something to it. 1231 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,360 I don't know either but. Next time you come. 1232 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440 On it'd. Be better etiquette, I think if 1233 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,600 you had tea. I think so. 1234 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,440 Well, I. Mean I can. 1235 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,200 I can do that. Yeah, I do love love a couple. 1236 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,640 Sorry before we talk. No, not at all. 1237 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,920 I will. So here's the question, right? 1238 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,960 And there's a, there's a bonus here if you can get the answer 1239 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,760 right. So the question is, which 1240 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,200 website on the Internet, not counting the dodgy ones, has the 1241 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,520 highest word count? Not that the dodgy ones have a 1242 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,400 particularly high word count anyway, but no. 1243 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,120 What? What do you think? 1244 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,120 And not counting social media, so not Facebook and Instagram 1245 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,600 and stuff. Part of me feels. 1246 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,080 Like the right and there's no the right answer. 1247 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,480 And I feel like if we're talking words, well, I said out loud, go 1248 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,360 for it, Wikipedia Bond, as you know, boys. 1249 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,720 He's got it absolutely right. And do you know what? 1250 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,080 Your prizes What? You can choose and. 1251 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,360 That's the name of magician. I'll just do you know what? 1252 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,880 What can your prize be? I'll give you. 1253 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520 I'll give you the gift of good magic luck for your show 1254 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,200 tomorrow night. OK. 1255 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,400 Yes, yes. No, no, no. 1256 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,080 I'll take. It no, you absolutely take it. 1257 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,560 I have to do an event tomorrow night. 1258 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,440 It's not sure that sucks. Yeah, you come next time there's 1259 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,480 there's a chance I'll be in. London. 1260 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,080 But if I'm not, I'll be there all my life, I promise. 1261 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:42,920 That's part of the trade, that level. 1262 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:43,800 Butter. Butter. 1263 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:49,040 No, I swear I'll. Dance guy, Where was he? 1264 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,040 Going with the Oh yeah, Wikipedia, Wikipedia, Yeah, go 1265 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,320 to Wikipedia. You've always do it as well. 1266 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,560 Go to Wikipedia. This is a follow. 1267 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,960 Yeah. So there's we're going to do 1268 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,560 some math. You've always good at math. 1269 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,000 Anyone here? I'm. 1270 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,160 I'm not great. I failed my maths. 1271 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,240 GCSE four times and the first time I took it when I was in 1272 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,120 school I took in a novelty Smarties calculator. 1273 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,800 That's true story. Maz was always my weakest 1274 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,560 subject as well but I feel my driving test 4 times that's why 1275 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,840 I was shouldn't be on the road. I shouldn't. 1276 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,640 I actually, I actually believe that. 1277 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,320 I do believe that. This guy, I know that it's 13 1278 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,040 times. I'm like, at what point are you 1279 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,160 just a risk? Like even when he passed, it was 1280 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,720 barely, you know? Anyway, you're on Wikipedia. 1281 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,800 Yep. You're always on Wikipedia, 1282 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:30,840 right? Here's what we're going to do. 1283 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,240 Would you actually on a separate tab or the same one? 1284 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:35,920 Search, search. How many articles are there on 1285 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,440 Wikipedia and then on a separate tab I well. 1286 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,720 It doesn't really matter. How do I don't mind? 1287 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:41,840 You can go back onto it in a second articles. 1288 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,800 Because here's the thing in a second again, I get used to 1289 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,680 think of some stuff and people constantly think, oh, but like, 1290 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,400 how many articles really are there? 1291 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,360 How many words are there? And they rationalise it. 1292 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,160 Maybe this is just guessing, you know what I mean, which it maybe 1293 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,800 it is, maybe it isn't. But can I grab your phone once 1294 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:57,960 you've got it here? Because I'm going to do we've 1295 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,680 it. We've it right now. 1296 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,040 I'm going to show you. What do you want me to read the 1297 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,560 answer? If you even. 1298 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:03,440 Here, let me can I see what you've got, because it does 1299 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,000 change. It might. 1300 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,680 Just be higher. Let's. 1301 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,400 See what we got? I see. 1302 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,320 That's good. Can we do? 1303 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,920 Is this the top one that gave up for you? 1304 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,160 Yeah, right. We'll do that. 1305 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,920 OK, so you can check. Don't look at any other tops. 1306 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,200 I will get a promise, not turn. It to the camera I shall not 1307 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,640 right. It's telling us we're typing the 1308 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,720 word pay to. Search anything there's. 1309 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200 Yeah, it's a risky, you know, I've seen I do a lot of magic on 1310 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,200 mobile phones and you do see some stuff. 1311 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,920 You will if you see. Some stuff. 1312 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,080 We'll, we'll keep quiet. We're going to cut our eyes. 1313 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,600 All good. OK, so there's 6. 1314 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,960 That's just a big number. We're get the Smarties 1315 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,120 calculator, right? Right now we've got 6,000,000 1316 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:44,280 articles, 640-5357. That's if you multiply that by 1317 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,440 the amount of words out of words per Article 6. 1318 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,920 No, sorry, 9.4 billion words on that website as big because each 1319 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,200 of you are going to think of one, right? 1320 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,880 And I don't want you driving back tonight or walking, don't 1321 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,720 know what you say. I don't want you just going back 1322 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,040 thinking. I bet you everyone just thinks 1323 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960 of the same thing and there's only a certain amount of words, 1324 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,680 right? 9.4 Now of course there's 1325 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,360 already so many words in the English language, but that 1326 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,480 probably is every word in the English language, right? 1327 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,120 Today's featured article, let's not use that. 1328 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,360 I'm going to let you search for something else. 1329 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,640 Take out there, right? You fellas do this as well. 1330 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:17,280 This is important. Now don't think of the featured 1331 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,920 article because I saw it was that's too easy. 1332 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,240 Here's what I need you to do. I want you to think of something 1333 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,680 Wikipedia or just think of anything, but don't go for some 1334 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,440 obvious people will now at this point, go for Punjana, manscape, 1335 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,920 lights, camera action, look over something like that, which makes 1336 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,040 it really obvious, right? Go for something you don't think 1337 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,840 I'd get, like just a word it. Can be anything. 1338 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,360 You want. Guidelines maybe? 1339 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,600 Like a celebrity, a country of food, like it, but but you 1340 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,960 actually can go for anything. That's just in case right now, 1341 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,080 before you do anything, I can read your thumbs. 1342 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,840 So I'm going to face this way here. 1343 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,640 See, when you're done, I want you to take your phone. 1344 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,760 I'll lock mine for like, take your phone, hold it to your 1345 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,160 chest like this. Yeah. 1346 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,680 So I can't see anything. Don't lock it. 1347 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,680 Don't lock it, keep it. To yourself, I'm going to look 1348 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,360 this direction here and you guys search something too as well so 1349 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,520 you have some. Should I start typing? 1350 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:02,840 Go for it. Start typing. 1351 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,840 And then once you've hit search, hold your phone to your chest 1352 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,920 like this. I'm just going to stare at the 1353 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,680 clock. Dan, what's your question 1354 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,680 usually? I make eye contact. 1355 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,680 With someone at this point, but everyone in the room is taking 1356 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,680 part in the trick. So do you have a query? 1357 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,480 Then We're all good. I just have to behave with the 1358 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,200 microphone. See. 1359 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,200 So there's a lot going on. Have you got some Shin? 1360 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,800 Yes. You guys have you fellas got 1361 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,560 some? Right. 1362 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,520 So this is what I'm not even going to look in case you flash 1363 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,040 like in you're not wearing glasses. 1364 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,560 So that wouldn't really happen. I'm probably safe. 1365 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,440 Here's what you need to do. Glance down like this. 1366 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,880 Yeah. And then Scroll down. 1367 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,280 To about halfway down, three quarters, 2/3, whatever you want 1368 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,840 to do, you guys do Scroll down like this and then whenever you 1369 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,840 want, stop. OK, you got some. 1370 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,440 Yeah, OK. You've always do it too. 1371 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,240 So here's the here's the important part of the trick. 1372 00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:46,520 You've got to think of a word, right? 1373 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,400 But if you just go for a really simple word like we she bought, 1374 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,320 hey, it's a really shit trick. So do that. 1375 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,120 Go for a nice big long word, like 78910 letters. 1376 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,040 If you can get one. Importantly here you can change 1377 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,880 your mind on the words. So like don't just go for the 1378 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,800 first one you spot you got some. Do you want to change it? 1379 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,240 No. OK, so hold your phone to your 1380 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,280 chest again. You guys got word each as well. 1381 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,760 All right, so to make this harder for me, take your phone 1382 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,280 and scroll again. Scroll again. 1383 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,920 If I delete the tab. Delete the tab, you guys. 1384 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,720 Delete the tab too, unless you think you're going to forget the 1385 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:18,400 article. But have you done it? 1386 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,120 Lock your phone, Lock your phone, lock your phone. 1387 00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,400 OK, that's a big setup for a trick. 1388 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,480 But what I used to do is I used to have people think of 1389 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,000 something and then like write it down or something. 1390 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,600 And people would say, oh, he's probably just read what I wrote 1391 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,920 down when I wasn't looking. Can't happen in this case. 1392 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,360 Not even to mention the fact that you're thinking of a word 1393 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,600 that you just scrolled out somewhere randomly and it's in 1394 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,920 your head. Would you describe that as fair? 1395 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:41,360 It is pretty fair, isn't it? Fair, fellows? 1396 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,600 OK, listen. So don't you, under any 1397 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,520 circumstances, tell me what you're thinking of, OK? 1398 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,160 Don't. Do not. 1399 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,440 You can put your phone away if you want, by the way. 1400 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,960 You can relax as long as you remember the two things. 1401 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,240 Or even just a word, OK? Invite. 1402 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,840 Most important, you remember the word. 1403 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,720 Just a lot. I know. 1404 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,840 You're going to get this. Well, I was about to say. 1405 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,400 It's the one trick. I'm going to grab a piece of 1406 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,240 paper. It's the one trick. 1407 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:00,920 This doesn't work 100% of the time. 1408 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,720 It's not like that Rhino. The car is going to be at the I 1409 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,720 might get a wee bit wrong, but I'll try to get it close. 1410 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,480 I'm going to go off the mic here to get a piece of paper so. 1411 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,680 You can do. That yeah. 1412 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,800 What's your favourite song? I enjoy Thunderstruck. 1413 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,200 By ACDC, don't know if I know. It. 1414 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,120 Well, I know ACDC, obviously. I don't know if I know that 1415 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,600 song. I'm just going to sing it. 1416 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,920 What? OK. 1417 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,320 Actually pretty. Very, very. 1418 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,800 I've heard it's the whole song, basically. 1419 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,520 OK, here's what we're going to do. 1420 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,560 So this is a bit like that game 20 Q to remember the little 1421 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,040 console thing you got as a kid. Right. 1422 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,480 So just to check, because, again, people do think everyone 1423 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,840 just goes for the same thing under pressure. 1424 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,400 Like maybe everyone thinks of whatever. 1425 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,320 What word do you think? Enough. 1426 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:46,840 What word? Yeah. 1427 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,680 Civilian. Civilian. 1428 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,000 OK. Did you think of the word? 1429 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000 Civilian. No, that would have been math. 1430 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,480 That would have been whatever you did with the word civilian. 1431 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,360 Tell me what the article was. Do you think? 1432 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,720 Are they pretty? Is a loose link? 1433 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,080 Yeah, it's loose. Loose Like what? 1434 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,840 In fact, you can tell me what's what was the article? 1435 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,360 Battle of Britain. Oh, good. 1436 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,120 So that's actually a great one because you went really obscure 1437 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,920 as yours. As obscure as that. 1438 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,640 Yeah. OK, do you know what? 1439 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,080 Let's just go for you because you're on the camera is what was 1440 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,280 what was the word you thought of consolidated? 1441 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,880 Consolidated. Do you reckon your word is as 1442 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,280 hard to guess as consolidated? Similar sort of tear, no? 1443 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,440 Slightly, slightly less than. Consolidated. 1444 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,600 Got it. And what was the article? 1445 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,920 Vikings. Vikings are there. 1446 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,440 That's mad that he's went for both seas. 1447 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,560 Yeah, there's a little link. In the dude did you go for in 1448 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,280 fact, don't tell me, don't tell me because if you did, then I'll 1449 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,280 be able to guess really obvious. So think of the word see the 1450 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,360 article you thought of ignore that. 1451 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,520 That's forget about it. Don't worry about it. 1452 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,360 Just think about the word. OK, so you guys at home watching 1453 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,560 right now, you're going to see in his face, you're going to see 1454 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,280 this happen and you're going to watch your back and you're going 1455 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,240 to see it happen. But even it's one of these 1456 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,200 things, the harder you try not to give this away, the more you 1457 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,480 give it away. It's a bit like if I tell you 1458 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,080 right now, don't think of a pink elephant. 1459 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,120 It's all you can think about. Right. 1460 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,880 So if I tell you try not to think of that word, it's just 1461 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320 kind of blast in your head. OK, so just try and relax, 1462 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,000 relax. And here we're going to give 1463 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,400 this a good give this a good go. So I'll wash this out slowly but 1464 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,240 surely. Question before I do it. 1465 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,200 Was this the first word you pick or did you change your mind? 1466 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,880 It was the first word. Effectual. 1467 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,480 Did you think about changing it? For a split second. 1468 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,880 You saw another option you could have. 1469 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,400 Picked and then you went back or just you just saw one just. 1470 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,720 I was happy with what I had. You're just content. 1471 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,440 Yeah, I like that. Decisive, OK. 1472 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,520 I think the first letter, yeah. And I try not. 1473 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,000 To give this hold, the iPods are going absolutely nuts. 1474 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,040 You're trying to say have some sort of tail. 1475 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,880 I don't be the one to say it, OK? 1476 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:45,400 Do you? Ever win? 1477 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,920 When you play Jack, change it. Yes, yeah, I've. 1478 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,560 Never been defeated. Really. 1479 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,000 Might play a game. Afterwards, right? 1480 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,240 Think of that first letter ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPGRSTVWXYZ. 1481 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,040 Like, there's a couple of things happen there. 1482 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,440 Firstly, I think he's getting a little bit confused with the 1483 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,440 actual thing that you thought of that still in your head to try 1484 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,760 not to think about the article itself. 1485 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:05,960 It doesn't start with an R, does it? 1486 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,320 Yeah. Yeah. 1487 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,320 OK, I'm going to write down. I'm going to write down the 1488 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:18,920 letter R Think of the second letter, by the way, just just 1489 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,200 for the sake of it. It wasn't an article. 1490 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,080 We just like one word in it. There's loads of options. 1491 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,520 And I guessing that you could have gone for. 1492 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,640 Oh yeah, loads. Yeah. 1493 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,560 OK, loads. Think of the second letter. 1494 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,320 Yeah. Hey, VCDEF, That was an easy 1495 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,400 one. That's good. 1496 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,760 Do you know what happens there is people, It's funny you see 1497 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,640 it. How people are tense because 1498 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,120 they don't want to give it away, but the second the letter 1499 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,120 passes, they can relax a little bit because they don't have to 1500 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,560 pretend anymore. You know what I mean? 1501 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,640 I used to do it where I would say, can you? 1502 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,640 Can you? This is a tricky one, but put 1503 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,440 your hands just like this. Yeah. 1504 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,040 OK, in. Your head. 1505 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,640 Just can't count too many letters. 1506 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,040 Are in the word. I can't use my hands. 1507 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,200 If you do, it's going. To help me so. 1508 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,440 This is it. I know, I know roughly how long 1509 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,120 it is. That's OK. 1510 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,880 It's probably 9 or 10. OK, you have it. 1511 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,640 Yeah, OK. I don't even. 1512 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,280 Voice. Hang in it. 1513 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,680 Take it. To get it, think of the 3rd 1514 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,280 letter AABC. T. 1515 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,680 EF Alright, I have. That's OK, This is what I've 1516 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,000 got. Close your eyes for a second 1517 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,960 there. I'm going to show them what I've 1518 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,960 got. Can I take my hands off you? 1519 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,120 Can relax while you. Keep your eyes shut while I show 1520 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:28,960 them what I've got. OK, it's one of two words. 1521 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:38,520 I'm going to say, oh wow. OK. 1522 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,480 Don't look at what I've written there, but take over that there. 1523 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,760 You just don't, don't look at it. 1524 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,320 Just keep it close to your chest for a second. 1525 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,560 Yep, OK. I'm committed. 1526 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,880 For the first time, God help me if this doesn't work. 1527 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,120 What was the word you thought of recommend? 1528 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,040 Recommend? I was very close to take a look 1529 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,360 at what I recommended. Really. 1530 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,680 Yeah, look at what I wrote. Look at what I wrote. 1531 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,600 But like. Yeah, it was. 1532 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,080 It was recommended right how you should the camera. 1533 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,800 But. So there's drops by. 1534 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,400 The. 6 billion articles. Right or whatever. 1535 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,440 Yeah, don't tell me the. Article you thought of by the 1536 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,320 way, because I could go for that too if you want. 1537 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,280 I do want you to do. That yeah, most people. 1538 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,640 Just leave it there. But I feel like it'll be more 1539 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,320 satisfying for the podcast, you know what I mean? 1540 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,240 But but but. But see the thing I picked? 1541 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,680 Yeah, it couldn't have been more at random. 1542 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,680 You couldn't know why I picked that? 1543 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,480 No, no. Which is this is The thing is I, 1544 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,000 I like it that way because that way. 1545 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,520 That's the other thing. I know it's weird. 1546 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,600 If you'd gone home and you'd pick Punjana, you would have 1547 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,040 thought that is impressive, you guessed it. 1548 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,960 But he probably would have known. 1549 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,240 That's why I like people to go Battle of Britain or Vikings or 1550 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,800 whatever, right. We'll do the article by will the 1551 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,240 same. Usually I don't do this second 1552 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,680 bit because it is harder to get in the word. 1553 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,560 I do it letter by letter. So if I don't get this one right 1554 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,080 just there. Let's just let's just remember 1555 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,800 the trucks that they that were good. 1556 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You like that, You're happy with 1557 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,560 that the single most. Impressive thing I've ever 1558 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,200 witnessed. Oh, look at that. 1559 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,480 See. Plaster on the website, That's 1560 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,920 good, that's good. I'll pay Pay Commission on it. 1561 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,040 Thanks. OK, listen. 1562 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,120 So, right, hopefully you guys are watching at home as well. 1563 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,800 You'll pick up on little things here. 1564 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,800 So remember the game I said 22. Yeah, play a game of that. 1565 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,960 But there's a catch, because there's got to be a catch. 1566 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,000 The catch is that you have to say no to everything but you, I 1567 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,840 think. You know this even before we do 1568 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,280 this and I don't know how that's possible. 1569 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,040 Do you say you're from anger? And I think you're from space. 1570 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,680 Similar place. You know, it's no, I don't. 1571 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,600 I don't know yet, but I should be able to get in about 5 1572 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,000 questions. Well, that's my average. 1573 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,320 But I could have picked. Even the framework you gave us 1574 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,480 was very loose. Yeah, yeah. 1575 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,120 Having. Said that, I'd say you probably 1576 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,160 still, this is just a guess. You probably still have gone for 1577 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,000 one of the categories that I suggested because most people 1578 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,320 do. You did. 1579 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,400 Yeah. So I'll tell you one of the 1580 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,160 little secrets behind it. I don't, don't say. 1581 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,800 But what I'll typically do, and I can't remember what I did 1582 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,320 there because I dragged up the trick. 1583 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,200 But what I usually say is think of a like a food, a place, 1584 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,000 country, a person and the one I want them to go for. 1585 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,680 I'll just look at them when I say it like a person. 1586 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,760 I can't remember if I did that for you. 1587 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,560 So I don't know if you thought of a person, but that's you can 1588 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,280 pretty much guarantee what topic to go for. 1589 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,640 Anyway, here's the 20 questions game. 1590 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,720 So sometimes you'll be telling the truth, sometimes you'll be 1591 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,080 telling me a lie, right? Big fib. 1592 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,120 The answer is no, no matter what I'm saying. 1593 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,720 Can I just say? Before we start this please. 1594 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,880 Despite what casting. Agents think I'm a great actor, 1595 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,080 I think. I think you're a wonderful actor 1596 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,240 and we're about to shatters and dreams here. 1597 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,320 So we'll say think of do you know, just to make this harder 1598 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,560 for me, right, Just to make this harder take take a second to 1599 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,720 settle because right, we're going to say now do you 1600 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,160 understand the rules? Yes, Yeah. 1601 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,000 Well, no. It's worth checking so. 1602 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,520 If I said to you, your name is Shane Todd, you'd say correct? 1603 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,240 Yep, say yes. You're going to say you're going 1604 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,320 to say no to everything. OK, right. 1605 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,880 There's the game. So is your name Shane Todd? 1606 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,000 No. You're damn right. 1607 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,080 Is my name Joel M? No. 1608 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,080 No. Are we in a? 1609 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,360 Fantastic studio right now, no. Where it's. 1610 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,320 Absolutely lovely. This is very comfy chair, by the 1611 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,880 way. It's going to say I'm going to 1612 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,080 do anything I can to put you off here to try and make you crack 1613 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,680 and lose for you. OK, Think about the category and 1614 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,560 say no. Is this a place? 1615 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,920 No. Is this a person? 1616 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,960 No. Is this a food? 1617 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,080 No. Is this a person? 1618 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,240 No. Is this a person? 1619 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,040 No. Is this a person? 1620 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,760 No. Is this a person? 1621 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:46,960 No. Is this a? 1622 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,560 Person No. I feel like you guys. 1623 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,160 Will figure this out for me because you know his interest. 1624 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,280 He says he's going for some random money. 1625 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,000 He'll probably go for something. OK, keep saying no. 1626 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,080 No matter what. Is this is this a man? 1627 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,880 No is this a woman? No. 1628 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,360 Is this a man? No. 1629 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,680 Is this a woman? No. 1630 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,560 Is this a woman? No. 1631 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,440 Is. This an attractive. 1632 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,360 Woman. No. 1633 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,160 Is this a woman from Northern Ireland? 1634 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,680 No. That's a woman from the States. 1635 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,840 No. Think of the 1st letter. 1636 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:20,680 ABCAB. I don't look for. 1637 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:27,480 A second think of the second letter ABCD E F G H I J K L M N 1638 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:33,400 O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Z Y X W V U T S R Q P O N M L K H A H G 1639 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,840 F E C P N. Oh, that's probably. 1640 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,400 Is it OK say? No. 1641 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,240 Is there so many? Things I would know say no, no. 1642 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,280 Is there so many things other? People in the room would know. 1643 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:52,720 No give up. Right, I'm going to take. 1644 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,880 I'm not sure. Like, because you're OK, I must 1645 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,960 say, because I'm a good actor. You are a bloody fantastic 1646 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,840 actor, right? Keep it OK. 1647 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,840 Forget the game. We're back to reality. 1648 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,200 She and Todd. Back to reality. 1649 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,240 Sorry man. He was really, really. 1650 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,440 Into that as well, yeah, yeah, do. 1651 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,440 You have like a buzz after. Yeah, Yeah, I feel good, Yeah. 1652 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,520 It's just part of the craft, I feel. 1653 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,000 Like I also. Did something, had a strategy 1654 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,760 there? Did you? 1655 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,640 Yeah. What was your strategy? 1656 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,160 Maybe it's best not to tell me. Do you want me to tell you? 1657 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:23,680 Yeah. Go on. 1658 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,240 Because I you are he hard to read. 1659 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,320 I'm joking, but you are tricky. So I was saying no. 1660 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,520 And. Then I was shaking my head. 1661 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,360 Yeah. And then when I wanted you to 1662 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,760 think it was the thing I was lying about, I didn't shake my 1663 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,960 head. Yeah, I picked up on that. 1664 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,200 But no, but no. But I, I I didn't raise your 1665 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,000 date on purpose is what I mean. You actually might have, but I 1666 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,200 still think I've got it to be honest. 1667 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,840 Do you guys think I. Have no. 1668 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,800 Link to this thing? Do you think you know who it is? 1669 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,000 OK, so be honest. They say it starts with the 1670 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,000 letter B, doesn't it? Yeah. 1671 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,440 Britney Spears. No. 1672 01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,800 If it's not Freddy I. Know the other one? 1673 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,520 It's a girl that starts with the letter B. 1674 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,760 Who's it? It's not. 1675 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,960 It's gonna be one of these other pop stars. 1676 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,680 Who do you think it is? It's one of the other Britney 1677 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,160 Spears Award. No, Forget the yes or no. 1678 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,640 Game if you're killing me, it was. 1679 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,360 Which one was it? Neither. 1680 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,080 Barbie. No. 1681 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,920 Bruce Jenner. No. 1682 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,440 It's probably someone. I just don't know. 1683 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,200 Then I don't know. It's not. 1684 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,920 Fuck you, it's not a person. And you know, it's not a person. 1685 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,600 I don't. I don't. 1686 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,680 You do. Do you know everything? 1687 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,080 You're in my brain. Right. 1688 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,000 Well, you've hijacked. How close am I? 1689 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,120 Well, is that a girl? At least tell me that. 1690 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,120 No, it's not. A or I'll take another guess 1691 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,280 then. Right, so tell me the topic. 1692 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,080 It's a place. Banger. 1693 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,480 No. It's a place I've never been. 1694 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,240 Belfast, OH. No and I have no. 1695 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,240 Link to so you could Mali Bolly Rd. 1696 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,440 In Larne, no, it's not a place. Here is it not? 1697 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,600 Is it somewhere I've never? I'll not know because I'm they 1698 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,000 didn't joke me a level. You will have heard of it. 1699 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,480 Well, I, yeah. I. 1700 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:10,520 Know you could tell us. I don't know. 1701 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,120 I don't know. I'll take defeat on that one. 1702 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,000 But that's OK. I know I was because I got the 1703 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,160 letter B. That's good. 1704 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,120 That's good. I know. 1705 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,880 That's it. Go on, turn it over. 1706 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,880 What was the place before we? Turn it over. 1707 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,520 What was it? The place. 1708 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,800 Was Bulgaria. Oh. 1709 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,640 My. God. 1710 01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:40,600 Thank you. Thank you very much. 1711 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,600 Come to come to all my shows and give me that support. 1712 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,960 I've never I've. Never been the Bulgaria. 1713 01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:48,760 Nowhere have I I've. Heard it's nice. 1714 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,640 But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying. 1715 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,319 Did you make me pick? Up was it? 1716 01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:56,720 This is The thing is. There's two types when you're 1717 01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,160 doing mind reading stuff. It's either you're popping some 1718 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,200 a thought into someone's head, or you're pulling how. 1719 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,880 Can we move on from that that quick? 1720 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,279 Is that you said any article in Wikipedia? 1721 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:09,640 Yeah, OK. You did say a country, a place. 1722 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,120 Yeah, that's it. But even if even if it's a 1723 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,439 country or a place, sell a lot of countries. 1724 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,680 There's over 50. Countries. 1725 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,800 How many countries are there I. Actually don't know the answer 1726 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,520 to that. That's some countries. 1727 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,760 I wouldn't know that, no. But. 1728 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:28,640 I it's not like I went with, you know, somewhere a big Tenerife. 1729 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,279 I have a Tenerife loads on holiday. 1730 01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:31,560 I survive good. Spot. 1731 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,279 Good spot, but stop doing that for me. 1732 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,279 Talk about the thing that you picked. 1733 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,760 Let me tell you if. You ever get the chance because 1734 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,040 if you like that my the stuff I do on stage because you've big 1735 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,439 cry, you can do a bit more cold reading. 1736 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,080 I'll so we you're so. Bizarre or come to live. 1737 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,880 I will. I'll follow you like a Messiah. 1738 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,080 You're the Messiah if you. Start a cult. 1739 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,080 I'll join it and I have fool. I'll even waive the. 1740 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,400 Membership fee for my cult. You boys can get in for free as 1741 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,640 well. I'm glad you like that trick. 1742 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,920 And you know what? I'm glad that you're impressed 1743 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,600 because some people, they're just, they don't think about it 1744 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,720 enough and they just think, well, that's cool. 1745 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,440 But like, everyone probably thinks of Bulgaria. 1746 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,960 And that's why I like when you guys think of something that's 1747 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:11,840 different. You know what I mean? 1748 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,800 Well, I promise you, I promise. The second cameras go off teach 1749 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,720 you a mind reading trick that you can do more importantly. 1750 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,240 By more mind blowing than that down. 1751 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,920 Why did you pick the bottle of Britain? 1752 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,080 That was a good one. I assume it was put in my. 1753 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,160 Head by well. Yeah, it's something I think 1754 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,320 about often. You know, I can't say I was 1755 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:37,640 there, but in a past life. That people think some really 1756 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,040 weird. Stuff though like you get some 1757 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,120 I'm. I'm impossible to throw off, so 1758 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,840 I thought I I we could have a conversation about anything. 1759 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,000 You could change the sub in a normal conversation. 1760 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,680 Yeah. You could change the subject to 1761 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:49,760 anything. Yeah. 1762 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,160 And that's why I think people like the podcast is because we 1763 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,800 talk about any sort. Nothing's on the limits, 1764 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,120 whatever it is totally. But you do not. 1765 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,840 I can't concentrate because I don't know. 1766 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,840 I'm very sorry. I'm very sorry. 1767 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,840 I am human partner like you're like. 1768 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,320 But you know what it is. It's a it's a weird. 1769 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,280 I'm very flattered by the way, truly, thank you very much for 1770 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:11,760 it. So nice. 1771 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,280 But you do. It's not that I don't find it 1772 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,200 cool. I love it. 1773 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,000 And the way I enjoy it is by kind of sitting back and just 1774 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,480 watching people kind of like squirm a little bit. 1775 01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:23,160 I find that really, really fun. But you do do these tricks 1776 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,760 enough times where you have to remind yourself like it's 1777 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,160 someone else has seen it for the first time. 1778 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,360 You know what I mean? Because in my head, I've, I've 1779 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,760 done that 1000 times since I was like 13. 1780 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,320 But you need to remind yourself that like, that's a, that's a 1781 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,080 new experience for some people. So that's. 1782 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,520 Incredible. Thank you very much. 1783 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,160 Thank you very much. That's incredible. 1784 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,840 Appreciate that. I don't I'm glad I got it right 1785 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,000 because I don't take the pace whenever I say the sometimes 1786 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,080 doesn't work, sometimes doesn't like it's like and magic tricks 1787 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,360 do go wrong, especially the mind reading stuff because that's the 1788 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:52,560 other thing is people can just lie. 1789 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,880 But I trust you. And you had no way of knowing, 1790 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,920 but I had when you were saying as a person that's Beyoncé's 1791 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,280 pretty. I knew. 1792 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,680 Yeah. You didn't think that. 1793 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,360 Yes. I go. 1794 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,440 He's got this. Yeah. 1795 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,120 But I there's nothing on me that's a tale. 1796 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,240 Although. Although I do think there's 1797 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,800 something that's not going to give you a full answer. 1798 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,280 But, you know, if I say thinking between 1:00 and 5:00 and you 1799 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,280 want there's more people smile a bit. 1800 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,120 Don't They were the first one. Totally, Totally. 1801 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,120 And I think it's we didn't do that. 1802 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,040 There's there's layers. To it like there are layers to 1803 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,320 it and you get some like an onion very. 1804 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,480 Magic is. Like an onion funny, most magic 1805 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,920 is you're usually just missing one or two key pieces of info 1806 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,520 and not having access to those two pieces of info makes it 1807 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,240 impossible to work it out backwards. 1808 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,080 Like you can't figure out because the trick usually is 1809 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,040 that the moment it's important that you have to catch you 1810 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,440 forget about you don't remember that. 1811 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,840 So it could you know, you have the luxury of watching this back 1812 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,000 and you'll see what you were doing, But it's a fun one. 1813 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,560 Let me ask you about a. Couple let me try and please 1814 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,920 property interview. Please let me ask you about 1815 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,680 about TV stuff. So you had a was that your was 1816 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,640 this your first series? It was on BBC or are you That 1817 01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,480 was my first series you've. Been on things. 1818 01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:04,320 With the first. Series it was so much fun to do. 1819 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,160 We got lucky that we just filmed that right before everyone shot 1820 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,120 behind so so we got lucky with that one and then it was like 1821 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,520 over a full year before the before actually came out. 1822 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,280 So that was my first one. What was that? 1823 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,120 Like versus what you thought it would be like the experience of 1824 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,480 it was could you? Because you're like, I've done 1825 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:23,240 some TV stuff. Yeah, we do more of my own 1826 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,160 stuff. But but you control everything 1827 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:26,080 when you're that. That was the. 1828 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,640 Trickiest part of it, to be honest, was going from being a 1829 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:29,840 creator. Whoever I wanted to poke 1830 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,840 something, I just did it and suddenly there's no I love. 1831 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,080 The whole thing was amazing and what they'll just under their 1832 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:36,680 unreal to work with. They're so good. 1833 01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:39,360 It's just of course there's more moving parts. 1834 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,680 There's more pressure. Like when I'm doing a trick, I 1835 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,080 can't just be as like like fasting around like this and 1836 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,480 having fun with it. It's like this has to be 2 1/2 1837 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:48,400 minutes long. This is when the magic reveal 1838 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,680 has to happen. It has to be really tight. 1839 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:50,840 Been looking at this camera this. 1840 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,840 So it was there's a lot more going on and I did feel there's 1841 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,640 a lot more pressure on me because usually I just have a 1842 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,360 bit of crack with it. And that's kind of all my tech 1843 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,320 talk and Instagram videos are basically that like I'll just 1844 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,240 sit down with my brother with three magic tricks and be like, 1845 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,600 watch these. He's crazy. 1846 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:04,640 I. Love them, yeah. 1847 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,200 Best friend he's so good, but he moved to Liverpool to study 1848 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,160 there recently, so every time I want to film videos, got to fly 1849 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,600 him back over, you know, but it's it's you know what, we 1850 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,840 enjoy it more now because we see each other less, you know, much 1851 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,400 more people think he's. Lying when they're in the 1852 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,480 airport. Where you off to? 1853 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:22,760 Yeah, my brother's a magician. And you know what as well is see 1854 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,680 an airport that is my worst nightmare for travelling for 1855 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,320 shows. Like see the amount of shit you 1856 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,120 have to carry in your bag as a magician, like magnets and big 1857 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,480 ropes and needles inside them. And like I I'm yet. 1858 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,520 Yeah, yeah, the rabbit's called a real news. 1859 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,720 And doves. That's the big one. 1860 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,160 Does your brother? Does your brother, have you 1861 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,120 taught him enough stuff? So when he's in liver is your 1862 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,600 way for uni? He's right for uni, yeah. 1863 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,520 So did he. Did he come to my show this 1864 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,200 week? I'll actually. 1865 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,440 I'll let me just ring him now and say now I do you know why? 1866 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:52,680 I don't know. I don't know. 1867 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,600 I know he watches your I know he watches your video. 1868 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,520 Then you went to fire. I'm. 1869 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,160 Just wondering why I saw that in your story. 1870 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,800 Like it was, actually. It was probably more likely he 1871 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,920 caused the fire. That's one thing, person. 1872 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,360 He is. That's what I'm thinking because 1873 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:03,640 he. Tried to do a trick for me and 1874 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,560 it's it's not going well. It's gone haywire. 1875 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:06,200 Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1876 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,960 How was Liverpool? It was unbelievable. 1877 01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,880 The venue. Went on genuinely went on fire 1878 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,560 to Fire Brigades came so it wasn't like a. 1879 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,520 It wasn't a fire test. The fire was real, the manager 1880 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,480 told. Us specifically this is not a 1881 01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:21,000 test the venue is on fire run so. 1882 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,520 But here's the thing, I just bought it as a lovely coat from 1883 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,560 Zara so even though I heard it was real fires, I can't see 1884 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,800 flames and I went to the green room to get. 1885 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,280 The jacket because I bought it. That day, may that be me. 1886 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,680 If there's ever firearms or whatever, I don't take this 1887 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,240 advice, but I will run the grab. I will, Yeah. 1888 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,080 Yeah, but that's gonna go. Back so we went outside in the 1889 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,840 cold, me and me and the whole audience for an R and 20 are we 1890 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,520 just chatting amongst them and. Yeah, yeah, too far, but I was. 1891 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,080 More like conscious of like, am I gonna have to cancel this? 1892 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,920 So I'm trying to figure out what's going on. 2 Fire Brigades 1893 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,960 go down, sorted out. She was supposed to start half 1894 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,000 nine, which is late. She was started 11:10. 1895 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,920 Oh my goodness, how long? Is this set I was supposed to? 1896 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,760 When I, when I realised we could go ahead, I was like, I'll do 1897 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,880 45. Yeah, yeah, I did an R and 10 1898 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,760 minutes because it just was the best show in my life. 1899 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,960 That's unreal. It was. 1900 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,040 Classmen. Incredible. 1901 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,320 Because I thought the show would be dominated by people wanting 1902 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,360 to talk about what just happened. 1903 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,480 But it wasn't. They were like the best. 1904 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:18,400 They were like, oh, that's cool. They were excited and all, but 1905 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,240 then because of what had happened and the giddiness, but 1906 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,600 then they were like, OK, we're here for the show. 1907 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:23,680 That's savage. That's. 1908 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,000 Lovely that isn't it? So good. 1909 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,240 But does your brother, does your brother know enough tricks that 1910 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,040 he he can go over there to you know, is he is he running about 1911 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,960 halls being he actually knows? Nothing. 1912 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,920 This is what is quite funny is maybe four years ago, I I came 1913 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,000 to this realisation that Ethan doesn't actually know how any of 1914 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,560 the tricks work because growing up, like my girlfriend knows how 1915 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,160 they all work. My parents know a whole bunch of 1916 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,680 them. Some of my friends know because 1917 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,320 they just saw me practising. Brother just wasn't paying 1918 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,560 attention. So I remember one day like back 1919 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,400 almost maybe longer than I go back when I was with mom and dad 1920 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,720 and I came in just to test something that I was going to do 1921 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,000 the show and did it on him. And when I say he freaked out, 1922 01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,840 he freaked out. He was running around the house. 1923 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,920 I was like, I didn't didn't know. 1924 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,720 You didn't know. So it and it was perfect because 1925 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,560 he's always made YouTube videos and stuff himself. 1926 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,920 So he was happy enough to be on camera and that's quite good 1927 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,000 for. Natural reactions, yes, the way 1928 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,000 we do it is. I plan out with tricks I'm going 1929 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,120 to do that's not off the cuff. I never lie about that, but I 1930 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,320 never tell him what we're going to do. 1931 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,360 And then we just see how the reaction is. 1932 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,080 So to like get a video with three, usually my videos are 1933 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,320 three good reactions or anything. 1934 01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,920 It might take me like 7 tricks to get the right ones, you know 1935 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,800 what I mean? Yeah, I don't lie, but you know, 1936 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,720 it's going to be yeah, yeah. That was the other thing with TV 1937 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,040 that you didn't have the advantage of with like tech talk 1938 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,000 video is if I filmed the techno video and it wasn't very good, I 1939 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,120 could just film more and just wait until guys. 1940 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,720 We couldn't do that with TV because the episodes we did was 1941 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,880 with one group of people and kind of followed the story. 1942 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,520 So it was like if they didn't react to the trick, it was like, 1943 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,240 yeah, yeah, yeah, all. Right. 1944 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,040 Yeah, that. Was that was challenging I 1945 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,160 suppose I want to also. Ask you about just social media 1946 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,480 and in general, like I, I sort of say like, I don't know what 1947 01:17:55,480 --> 01:17:59,760 all these apps and, and I mean that I'm 33 and it passes you by 1948 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,960 very quick. I think the last thing I was 1949 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,240 like, OK, I sort of know this is maybe Twitter and Facebook, 1950 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,520 Yeah, even Instagram, like I'm on there. 1951 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,840 I'm doing a lot of stuff, yeah. And people be like. 1952 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,120 Oh, you're you're, you know what you're doing on that end. 1953 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,000 I don't really. I can figure it out, but I don't 1954 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,000 know all the cool features and totally don't know what the 1955 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,080 fucking rail is and all this in order I. 1956 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,800 Really, to be honest, I think that you can get really caught 1957 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,840 up in that stuff and then pay no attention to what you actually 1958 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,760 put night. And then, like the people who I 1959 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,600 know who are the best with social media don't necessarily 1960 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,040 have an audience because like, they're spending so much time, 1961 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,840 like with their perfect hashtag strategy that they forget that 1962 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,480 the video has to actually be entertaining, you know? 1963 01:18:35,480 --> 01:18:37,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I always find that if you 1964 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,720 just get some, that is by nature very good. 1965 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,960 And it's it's engaging. The rest kind of does sort 1966 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,800 itself out. I mean, you know yourself. 1967 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,720 Look what you've managed to grow already without really knowing 1968 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,320 what you're doing is you're saying, you know what I mean? 1969 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,760 It was kind of the same as me when I started Tick tock. 1970 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,760 Hadn't a clue, hadn't a clue. And like, I know a little bit 1971 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,080 more now. I like how algorithms work. 1972 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,360 But even knowing it doesn't mean that you're necessarily going to 1973 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,080 like smash it. You know there are certain types 1974 01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,000 and tricks though. Like it's like it's mainly to do 1975 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,120 with the content itself, the sheer amount of followers. 1976 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,600 You have where you still put something out. 1977 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,960 Do you go, this is far, this is great, Yeah. 1978 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,680 And maybe vice versa. And absolutely. 1979 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,160 Times you think this is the one and I just and things. 1980 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,200 You think, well this is grand and they they kill because 100. 1981 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,720 Percent yeah, with some of our podcast. 1982 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,240 Clips, like we put them up and we're on a few of them. 1983 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,840 We're like we're over 1,000,000 views, We're 1/4 of a million 1984 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:29,560 likes and that's like we're not setting up to that to be a clip. 1985 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,800 That's just part of something that's a really I saw. 1986 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,480 One in the 4U page yesterday that he's put out without was it 1987 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:36,200 like all painters or drug dealers or something like that? 1988 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,640 I pissed myself but a second I saw that I didn't even look at 1989 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,800 the likes and you that would have done fairly well, you know 1990 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,680 right, right. It's 90% of it is the 1st 2 1991 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,560 seconds of the clip. That's that's the secret. 1992 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,640 Like, I don't know, because you could have the I mean, The thing 1993 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,120 is you're used to probably you're doing longer form stuff 1994 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,240 and people invest into it and they're going to stay. 1995 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,360 But people who are just kind of going through mindlessly, you 1996 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,080 need to really capture them. And yeah, yeah, I think you can 1997 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,880 have the best video in the But if it doesn't, if you don't 1998 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,880 prove that within the first couple seconds, they'll never 1999 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,840 watch on, you know what I mean? And then we'll get shown to more 2000 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,480 people. So I suppose the law. 2001 01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:10,000 The short form stuff was we've told like not because it was all 2002 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,720 like when me and me and Mike went tacked together and we 2003 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,880 started like putting out social media videos where like 2004 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:20,000 sketches, like when, but 12 years ago, that's not like the 2005 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,640 thing. I was doing something then maybe 2006 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,880 10 years ago and it was all about you wanted to be lot 4 2007 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,480 minutes. Sometimes we do stuff for 10 2008 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,960 minutes and it's a sketch. And then Vine became a thing, so 2009 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,400 it was like it has to be 10 seconds ahead and then that 2010 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,240 change and it was like we're back to the long form I prefer. 2011 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,680 The middle, I prefer the middle ground where that's why I do 2012 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,760 about 30 seconds for me, which is enough time. 2013 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:43,720 That's middle. See. 2014 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:45,840 I think for me, yeah, a minute. And a half two. 2015 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,000 Minutes is middle for me. We'll see. 2016 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:47,800 This is a. It's different. 2017 01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,520 Different I never did really look, this is funny me said in 2018 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,160 every long form where I do like 2 hour one man shows, but like 2019 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,800 on the Internet, is that what you're is that what you're 2020 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,000 showing? Should be in interval in the 2021 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:56,600 middle. Or whatever. 2022 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,000 But I am, so I'm used to yapping away and doing bits for ages. 2023 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,000 So whenever I started doing the short form stuff I was like, hi, 2024 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,960 I'm supposed to get this across in that short period of time. 2025 01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,240 You can't do it though. I mean, I think it's about 2026 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:13,640 really cutting the fat and not being too like precious what 2027 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,240 you're losing. Yeah, and that is? 2028 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,800 Hard because there'll be so many clips that I'll have to cut out 2029 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,160 of a video with Ethan and I'll just think that's the funniest 2030 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,080 thing I've ever seen. Like the way his face went up. 2031 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,520 But it's an extra 3 seconds that like someone who doesn't know 2032 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,160 Ethan probably doesn't care about, you know, so you got to 2033 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,160 be kind of ruthless. Or you can just post loads and 2034 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,120 wait till something sticks. That's just more work. 2035 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,720 Yeah, You know what I mean. Let me, I could talk to you for 2036 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,840 hours, 100%. But I want to ask you about 2037 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,640 Elijah. She's doing Ulster Hall. 2038 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,040 Yeah, yeah, you've done Ulster Hall. 2039 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,040 Before, Right. Yeah. 2040 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:41,680 Yeah. Oh. 2041 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,120 Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. 2042 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,360 You're past that. It's. 2043 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,040 Bigger things. No, no, no, no. 2044 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:48,640 I I it was high as Ulster Hall AM. 2045 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,040 I in for a good night for I played it wrong. 2046 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,880 First time I did it OK, I played it wrong and I sort of let the 2047 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,760 occasion get to me a bit and I just wouldn't do that, No eh. 2048 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,760 But also. I don't know, I I. 2049 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,880 I was out a little bit rabbit in the headlights, but then I've 2050 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,640 looked at me to have done it for the first time and that's not 2051 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,160 the case. Yeah, I just sort of like I 2052 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,560 don't know what I let myself get to know. 2053 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,640 Maybe it was in the venue for too long in the run up to it or 2054 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,840 whatever, but there. But but then I did it a couple 2055 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,240 the year after that and then the year after that with a couple of 2056 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,120 shows. And I think from I wouldn't, I 2057 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,080 wouldn't, I would, I would always go back to like I'm doing 2058 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,960 SSE tomorrow night and next week. 2059 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,920 But next year I might do, I might do Black Box. 2060 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,040 Yeah, from the solution. Totally. 2061 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,640 It's just I like different venues, different experiences. 2062 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,880 And then and also hall was great. 2063 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:43,960 And then when I went back I was like, oh, I've been here. 2064 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,040 So it's fine. And like Waterfront is maybe 2065 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,440 like acoustically and stuff the best purpose built I want to do 2066 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:52,360 waterfront at. Some stage. 2067 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,200 And I think the reason for that was I remember seeing Darren 2068 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,240 Brown. He did. 2069 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,720 That was the first magic show I ever saw live. 2070 01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:58,920 When I was 12, he did Waterfront. 2071 01:22:58,920 --> 01:22:59,960 I was like, one day I'll do that. 2072 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,680 Yeah, we'll do that. Someday, but it's. 2073 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,600 An awesome awesome awesome for that type of thing. 2074 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,760 And what is your show? You know you're doing a little 2075 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,520 bit of stand up in it or you? Yeah, it's amazing with the 2076 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,000 crowd, to be honest. I try to make. 2077 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,040 The show as much about the people there rather than me, and 2078 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,680 that's not like that. I don't want the attention. 2079 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:15,920 It's that's what makes it funniest. 2080 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,360 And like it is a funny show. Not because I'm a funny person, 2081 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,800 but because people are funny, you know? 2082 01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:21,360 And. Yeah, Yeah. 2083 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,760 And you're putting them in such a weird situation. 2084 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,440 And the whole show's all these interactive, all of it, every 2085 01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:30,080 single trick, maybe with the exception of one, it's all 2086 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,120 getting people involved, getting people on the stage. 2087 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,440 And I just. I just love it. 2088 01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:34,320 Are you excited for it? I. 2089 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,040 Can't wait. Yeah, I. 2090 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,520 Mean live shows are my favourite thing. 2091 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,440 What did? It in 18th, 18th of December 2092 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,800 right up till right up near Christmas. 2093 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:43,400 Great. If you're on give me a shout, 2094 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:44,800 I'll come to that. I genuinely. 2095 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,520 Like I'm final officer, very impressive. 2096 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,680 I'd love to see you live, but let me ask you this a final 2097 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:53,480 question when you're doing the show so before every show, 2098 01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:56,680 including Saturday, yes, I go into the venue, have a look have 2099 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,200 a look at the lights Yep, we're happy enough here check it all 2100 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,360 out I go to Nando's, Oh man, I love and then. 2101 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,320 I come back. So what are you doing before 2102 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,840 Ulster Hall? What are you thinking? 2103 01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:07,400 Do you might you might be somebody doesn't eat before 2104 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,200 shoes. Well know if you guys, you know 2105 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,560 I, I do. That like one meal a day diet 2106 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,720 for the most part so I have like all my food and one bake that. 2107 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,880 I just like it that way because I forget to eat during the day 2108 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,080 anyway so I absolutely will be having dinner. 2109 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,080 It'll be between 3:00. Options right? 2110 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,760 It'll either be. Nando's, yeah, good location 2111 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,520 for. Ulster Hall Superb location. 2112 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,960 Superb. And I love a Nando's. 2113 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,160 Yeah. It could be Abujan, but. 2114 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,160 The only problem there is heavy. You may, I might like fall 2115 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:33,640 asleep on the stage. That's the one thing. 2116 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:34,960 That's the one. That's the. 2117 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,360 Ball, but even then. Like it still packs upon, Yeah, 2118 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,440 you know, so on between the two, I'm probably go in Nandos, yeah. 2119 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,680 Or it's. Go for a steak or in the Bullet 2120 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:46,960 Hotel. That's my favourite spot. 2121 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:48,600 That's ball or. I would do that. 2122 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,960 It's that sounds like some that's my as my go. 2123 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,600 To spot if I'm feeling have a good day, I'm taking myself off 2124 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,640 for a rib eye. Do you talk like a big. 2125 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,720 Napkin in your neck. I I let them do it. 2126 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,080 For me, I just sat down. I'm like, that's I'm. 2127 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,920 Here. It was funny actually in the in 2128 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,080 the Bullet. I went in one night and the 2129 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,880 manager in there is an amazing guy called Pedro and he comes in 2130 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,120 and he recognised me either from tech talk or whatever. 2131 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,480 It's so good to say here. We started this, this celebrity 2132 01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:17,360 like autograph book and I was like, well I'm not a celebrity 2133 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,280 but I'll take it. And he gave me the book and it 2134 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,320 was only one signature before me, but I didn't see who it was. 2135 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,640 I wrote mine down. I felt like a baller. 2136 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,920 I was like my name on the Taylor Clay book person before, had 2137 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,880 been there the night before in the same state and it was Wayne 2138 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,120 Rooney. What a downgrade. 2139 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,680 Can you imagine? Can you imagine that personal 2140 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,520 has to look through that book and they're like, well, they 2141 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,720 probably don't ask. Everyone to do it. 2142 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,320 Because here's the thing, I've been a bullet before. 2143 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:40,800 Oh. No. 2144 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,640 Well, see, I think I. Sit with a pen in my hand, we'll 2145 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,320 go together. Sometime and we'll get you in 2146 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,920 the book, we'll split a we'll split a page. 100% on a stick. 2147 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:48,360 I see. Yeah. 2148 01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:50,000 Yeah, we will. It's not cheap. 2149 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:50,760 You know what I mean? I know. 2150 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,080 You'll pay for it. Yeah, well, you'll, you'll pay. 2151 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,320 For it let me see that card machine. 2152 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,360 I'm still working on that one. Honestly, like I'd be I'd be 2153 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:01,880 unstoppable money off that because I have. 2154 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,760 Paramilitary connections if we team this synergy is. 2155 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,240 Really going now. Let's do it. 2156 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,160 That's. That's so much more. 2157 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,600 I could chat to you. About but 100% that is that blue 2158 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,600 that honestly blows my mind thank you so much appreciation 2159 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:19,560 for that art thank you because not otherwise you know poetry. 2160 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,840 What are you doing and but but yeah Joe thanks so much for 2161 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,200 coming on. I really appreciate you for 2162 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,040 having me there and. But how did? 2163 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:28,680 How? Are you? 2164 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,360 I'll I'll tell you. Can you give a secret Where are 2165 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:34,760 we off?