1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,960 I'm Michael. Che and I'm Colin Jose, and 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 we've got a little secret. Actually, it's a pretty big 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,480 secret. Well, now you got to give the 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,360 people something. I'm not saying a word. 5 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,920 Oh, then people will know to tune in. 6 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,080 Come on, tell them a little. Like how we're hosting of comedy 7 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,640 events streaming only on Peacock, exactly how it's called 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,200 New York After Dark and it's a comedy show that only features 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,960 drop in comic. Boom, you nail. 10 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,360 Into Michael Chase phone numbers. 11 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,960 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey. 12 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,720 New York After Dark. It's some kind of comedy thing, 13 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,000 and it's streaming now only on Peacock. 14 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:41,680 You love it. Zippers, welcome to this episode 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,840 of the Tea With Me podcast. With me, Shane's heart. 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,400 It's a guest episode. In the words of DJ Khaled, it's 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,440 another guest episode. And that is what he says at the 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 start of all his songs. Real fun episode this week. 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,080 In a second I'll tell you a little bit about it and then 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,360 we'll just get straight into it. Or you can just be really sly 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,680 and Fast forward this, in which case you'll never see this, but 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,920 in fact, you won't hear this anyway, so fuck you. 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,720 But yeah, guest episode. 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T with me for 20% off of free 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,120 shipping and patreon.com/T With me podcast. 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,120 My guest this week is Connor McNeil. 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Connor is an actor you more than likely have seen in something 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,000 before. He, he's been acting for, for a 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,480 long time, despite being my age And, and you know, always when I 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,600 find out people are my age, I'm like, I, I should have. 81 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Done more? You know what I mean? 82 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Like. Why have I not done? 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,160 More things. But Conor's been killing it for 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,240 a long time. He is a very good actor, stage, 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,240 stage, on screen. You know, he's been in the 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,560 Ferryman on Broadway. He is at the minute in Industry, 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,720 which is on BBC and HBO. And that she was killing it, 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,760 that she was all over the place. It's going down really well. 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 But halfway through it and I'm really enjoying it. 90 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:41,160 And Conor plays a very, very fun character in it. 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,960 And and if you've seen it, you'll know that it's it's a for 92 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,960 me, is it? It's a stand like character and 93 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,440 not just him that I think he's great. 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Connor is just also a very, very nice guy, very down to earth 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,680 guy. And they're just very easy to 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,800 chat to. I enjoyed having a cup of tea 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,400 with them. Ladies and gentlemen, this is my 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:07,480 episode of Tea With Me With. Connor, Connor, The first 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,160 question for everybody that comes on the podcast is do you 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,760 drink tea? If you do, maybe you can tell me 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,680 a little bit about your relationship with tea. 102 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:20,520 You know, how you get started? Have you has it ever become a 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,000 problem? You know, have you experimented 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,800 other hot drinks? Just let me know what. 105 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,760 Let me know what your drive is. I'm already starting on a bad 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,480 food now already. I do drink tea but I don't like 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,720 builders tea so it's controversial enough. 108 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,360 And have you? You don't like that? 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,360 The traditional Tetley Punjana type thing? 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,080 Dash of milk? No, you. 111 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Actually generally dislike it. I like a green tea she and I'm 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,560 really, really sorry I've changed. 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,280 So genuinely I I don't have dairy right And so I have the 114 00:05:58,280 --> 00:05:59,600 old green tea every now and again. 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,880 And I was at the Edinburgh Fringe about 7 years ago and 116 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,520 went to see Hearts play part of Thistle and there's like a like 117 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,560 a tea van at the game. And I there was like a Scott 118 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 middle-aged Scottish woman working there like hard as 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,680 nails. And I went up to her and I said 120 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,120 hi. I was like do you do, can I get 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,080 a green tea? And she said she said this is an 122 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:28,120 SPL match. I was like, oh and then it felt 123 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,880 better. Felt so stupid for asking. 124 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,320 So on the podcast I want to just chat to you about well, loads 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,760 and loads and loads of different things. 126 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,920 I feel like I've only got to know you a little bit in like 127 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,280 the last couple of months. But because you've done 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,080 genuinely like so many things for for quite a long time on 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,520 like on TV film, things I've known your face for, as creepy 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,320 as that sounds, I've known your face for a long time. 131 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,920 And I think the first time I remember seeing your face was 132 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,960 when you were doing, and correct me if I'm wrong, unless you're 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,880 like, that wasn't me Ads. It was like ads for like mental 134 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,680 health where you walk around with a cardboard box. 135 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,440 That got bigger. That'll be me. 136 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,800 I used to do a bit of stand up that was not funny. 137 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,240 This is awful already. I know this. 138 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,960 I maybe just did this once and it didn't work, but it stands 139 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,640 out to me as a bit. That should have got more. 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 I remember talking about that ad when I just started doing stand 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,840 up. I'm thinking the character in 142 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,480 the ad wouldn't have as many problems if you didn't stop, 143 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,760 just stop walking about with his cardboard. 144 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Now that should have got more. You laugh, but the crowd didn't. 145 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,400 But yeah, I just remember like seeing so many things that 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,680 you've you've done, like have have you been, you've been 147 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,640 acting since like a, a young age. 148 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Like since I was 14, so done like I used to do plays in the 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,560 summer up at it was a double joint theatre company used to do 150 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,400 plays every summer for the West Belfast Festival. 151 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,840 And so we I, I like done a play there and then the next summer 152 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,120 did another one. So we kind of done and then done 153 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,280 wee bits. Like got picked because I picked 154 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,520 up like wee bits and put a moves and gave me a headpiece for a 155 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,960 wee bit. Knew all those weeks just turned 156 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,440 up for a wee bit here and there so did that and he put got that 157 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,840 I was I remember that I was the first big like paycheck I had 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,080 like it was and it was on the side of buses and stuff Yeah as 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 absolutely wasn't until absolutely everybody roasted me 160 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,800 about it all the time so I thought this was class and then 161 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,720 everybody's like said you you're a Dick. 162 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Yeah, yeah, it wasn't a bit. Your problems get bigger. 163 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,400 So the box you were carrying, I mean, it makes, it makes a lot 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,200 of sense the. More I spoke so I first I spoke 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,240 to a friend and then a box got smaller and then I went to 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,200 somebody else and spoke to them and then the box got smaller 167 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,040 again and then I went to my doctor and spoke to my doctor 168 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,440 and the box got smaller to the fact that it got so small got 169 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,720 the size of a matchbox and I was able to just stick it in my 170 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,280 pocket chain and carry on with it the. 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Thing about that is in Belfast, Northern Ireland, like people 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400 like friends, you know, like roasting you for like being on 173 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,480 like an ad the fact that it's for like a great cause, like for 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,960 mental health cuts. No mustard of people like 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,680 doesn't any sort of by ball, like you could be, you know, on 176 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:15,360 Comic Relief in in Kenya. You know what I mean? 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,560 Like walking around dishing out, dishing out Fredos and your 178 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:20,560 mates and still be like Oh you dickhead. 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,000 I yeah, I was at Oxygen that summer I think and these group 180 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,880 of lads absolutely been circled around me and started chanting 181 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,400 if your heads away just say my mates genuine had to get into 182 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,600 the middle and Get Me Out did. You develop problems, as we're 183 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,160 saying. I can't took waste mental health 184 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,880 problems because. I mean, I don't know if this 185 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,360 this story that I got told is true, right? 186 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,040 I don't know if this is true. But is it about me? 187 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,280 No, it's not about you, It's not. 188 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,320 About you Terrified. As an actor in 2021 what? 189 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Is this it's confident it's happening? 190 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:05,760 I heard I heard that a certain local, let's call him weatherman 191 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,240 and broadcaster. I'm not say who it is, but I 192 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,040 heard that once. This probably isn't true, but 193 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,560 apparently do you remember Dempsey's nightclub? 194 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Yes, I've never been, but I remember where it was. 195 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Before our time I think, but it's Filthy's now. 196 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:25,320 I heard this guy got his drink spiked and there and was was 197 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,880 walking about with with maybe ecstasy and there's no way this 198 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,600 is true. But apparently like the whole 199 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,680 dance floor circled around them and started singing It's a 200 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,720 scooter around the corner just to say and he was just giving it 201 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,040 like complete stacks. But I don't think that's true. 202 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,920 That's obviously not true, Shane. 203 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,320 But part of you would like it to be. 204 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,960 You know what I mean? Like part of you would really 205 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,600 like it to be. I have to talk to you about 206 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,960 pulling moves as well, because that was putting moves for such 207 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,760 a cult thing where nowadays if you mention it to people, not 208 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,360 everybody remembers it. But if you do remember it, you 209 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,200 absolutely loved it. I remember it stood out to me as 210 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,720 like a local comedy thing where although it was set here, 211 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,720 although it was very much a Belfast thing, it didn't feel 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,000 like everything else that was being made at the same time. 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,120 It was just proper funny. It was really I. 214 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Remember at the time, I think, I think this is, I'm near sure 215 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,680 this is true. I don't think I must remember 216 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:26,920 this. But Piers Elliot, who created 217 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,400 it, had said that like they'd done so well, BBC Northern 218 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Ireland, that they obviously brought it to the big BBC and 219 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,160 they were like, we're gonna go BBC One national, right? 220 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,320 And all the people are like, what's the show that's like 221 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520 getting this buzz. They watched it over in England 222 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,840 and they all went, these people are terrible. 223 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:45,040 None of them have jobs. They're all doing the double. 224 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,720 They're all stealing and robbing to make money on the side. 225 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,880 And this is supposed to be good. And they were like shocked at 226 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,960 what it was about. And we were like, but it's it's 227 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,480 funny, right? Isn't that they're funny? 228 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,240 They're they're, they're pulling moves and like, it's illegal, 229 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,320 it's crime and. They just didn't go for it like, 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,760 but yeah, I thought it was. It was. 231 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,960 Very, very, very. Funny, I just like, even when 232 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,360 you look back now, there's so many brilliant actors and who 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,560 have all went on to do really well. 234 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,120 We were not like Simon Delaney and always in it early doors and 235 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,720 K Mcmenamin wasn't it. And George Jordan was class. 236 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,120 In it, yeah, yeah, really good. But. 237 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:20,880 You must. You must have been young. 238 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 You're not the same age. You were 32. 239 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,360 We're 32. Yeah, you were young. 240 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,640 You must have been young when you did that. 241 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,440 I think it's 1414. It was just in the car and I 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,440 think it was me and Kevin Elliott maybe in a car. 243 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,320 I'm not. I can't remember. 244 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:35,720 God, it's been easy since I've seen it. 245 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,200 And I was like, smacked the back teeth of gold rings on every 246 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,240 finger. And yeah, it was class class 247 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,920 Crack. And then wasn't Man about Dog 248 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,040 from the same? Not this all the same actor, but 249 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,760 the same team. I saw it was Pierce Elliot as 250 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,440 well. He done that extremes and good 251 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,560 or very funny. I love Man about dogs class 252 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:56,960 wasn't it? Get, I mean, getting into. 253 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean, it's one of those things 254 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,280 that like I would love to watch now just to see how it's aged. 255 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Yeah, but I'd say it, I mean, it was just for Karen. 256 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Karen Nolan was just. When he popped up in something, 257 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,320 I was really laughing. Yeah, he's too funny. 258 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,400 Like. I getting it, I mean like 259 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,600 getting into acting and performing a 14 or something I'm 260 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,160 very jealous of because I would never have as much as I do. 261 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,440 People might not believe that doing stand up now, but like at 262 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,880 that age there is not. I would love to have like acted. 263 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,760 I would love to have done that kind of thing, but at that age, 264 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,400 I, I didn't feel like comfortable enough on my own 265 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,960 skin or something to, to put myself out there and say, look, 266 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,160 this is something I'm going to do. 267 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,720 So when you were, you know, send your mates from school or 268 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,360 outside of school or whatever that, you know, you're acting, 269 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,360 all that kind of thing. What, what was the what was the 270 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,160 reception to that? I didn't, I didn't tell anybody. 271 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,680 So like only only the people found out kind of thing. 272 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:54,760 But I kind of at school at 14 was genuinely absolutely 273 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,280 embarrassed as fuck about it. But like, and and then then they 274 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,480 had committed. I was still at school as well 275 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,520 and was not going to do the hide that. 276 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,560 So it was like I can always have been embarrassed at the start. 277 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,640 And then I like it's mad, isn't it? 278 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,840 That like a lot of the people who I would have thought would 279 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,480 have given me shit for it were actually that's close. 280 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,520 You doing that? That's close. 281 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,440 I can't believe you're doing that. 282 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,080 And then now, especially when I see people like they're so proud 283 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,800 of you and what you've done and stuff. 284 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,840 It's like, but I remember it's going to be in like loving doing 285 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,000 it and feeling like because it was summer holidays, it was just 286 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,520 me and this group of people and nobody. 287 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,240 And then go back and realise I'm scandered about it and then 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,960 stopped doing it because that I didn't do it between like 15 289 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,400 till I was 18. And the only reason that 290 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,600 dominated the game was Pam Brighton begged me to come back 291 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,960 and do a play with them. And she wrote this play and she 292 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,680 was like, dude. And then when I did at that time 293 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 when I was 18 or 17, maybe I knew myself a little bit more 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,560 and was like, I love this all I want to do, like. 295 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Yeah, I'm a very, very gel. I mean, even like school plays, 296 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,400 like looking back, I was like, I would, I wouldn't clap. 297 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,120 I mean, I was in the I was like blending in the background of 298 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,040 the choir, but secretly it was just like wanting to be. 299 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,760 Did you not just join the commander? 300 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,240 Because I was in the choir and it was just to get free periods. 301 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Got so many free periods. If you're in the choirs, choir 302 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,800 practise. Yeah, and I was brutal at 303 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,480 singing, so I don't know. There was like a buzz about me 304 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:17,080 in the choir, you know, from like from, from, like from the 305 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,240 from the high, from the teacher, like Miss Ireland, who's our, 306 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,400 who's our choir teacher, choir master, whatever it is. 307 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,520 For some reason she must have got me confused early doors with 308 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 somebody else because I would have been like no solos. 309 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,320 But I was front and centre and a lot of stuff. 310 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,160 And I genuinely could not say. Like I couldn't sing. 311 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Like, OK, I could not sing well and I'm mine. 312 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,520 I used to mime in our school choir all the time. 313 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,560 But yeah, I think like you're saying about, you know, me, it's 314 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,400 actually saying you like you're a fair play for doing that. 315 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,640 I think when you actually do sort of put yourself out there 316 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,360 and say, like here I'm doing this is what I'm doing and you 317 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,720 do it, well, nobody can really deny that. 318 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,720 That deserves better respect, you know what I mean? 319 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Like no matter what it is, if it's sport or or whatever or 320 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,840 things. Like that, easier with sport 321 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,720 like. Oh yeah. 322 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,200 Fellows anyway, but yeah. But it was sweet. 323 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,760 I was terrified about it then it was sweet. 324 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Has has acting always been your thing or was there something 325 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,320 else? Like were you like going to be a 326 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,320 vet or something at one point? Head but you mad you said 327 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,080 animals when I was a kid kid like I want to be a farmer. 328 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,080 That's all I wanted to be is like I'm going to be a farmer. 329 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,600 I'm going to have cows farmer vet and then when about as I got 330 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,920 older, I really wanted to get in. 331 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,080 I love, still love music, mad about it. 332 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 And I wanted to get into ANR, you know, like those guys are 333 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,880 like, find the bands and you go out, you travel the world and go 334 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,080 to gigs. I just thought that turned the 335 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,960 class, like, go drinking paints, listening to bands, bringing 336 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,480 them in, being like, I'm going to make you famous coming. 337 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Yeah. Yeah. 338 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Yeah, meeting that guy, getting paid loads of money and then 339 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,240 A&R, like, thank fuck I didn't follow that because it started, 340 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,400 I was doing business studies in marketing and stuff that with 341 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,560 that in my mind. And then like Spotify and 342 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,640 everything killed all that doesn't exist anymore. 343 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Like that type of job. I'm sure it doesn't in small 344 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,320 pot. It's not a. 345 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,400 What would you would you have like smoked a cigar when you 346 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,040 were going to Taliban blazer with the sleeves rolled up? 347 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,200 A white blazer. Blazer maybe as well, yeah. 348 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,960 Let me ask you back like the old time. 349 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,880 I'll get asked to do something, whether it's like a pilot script 350 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,480 or something. And obviously, like anything and 351 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,240 anything I write or anybody else, sometimes an idea is good, 352 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,160 sometimes it's bad. But let me ask you, obviously I 353 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,560 understand you don't want to go into detail about it and don't 354 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,560 name news. But have you ever been in 355 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,000 something like even way back that you can look back on and 356 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,800 go, I really wish I hadn't done that. 357 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,200 Like, and I know it can be and I'm not looking you to be like 358 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,320 what this guy, but I just mean like. 359 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Is there something? That was bad, or the show was 360 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,840 bad, or. Even even a part you've 361 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,160 auditioned for and gone, like what am I? 362 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 What am I doing here? Oh, God, I did do that. 363 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,760 And it's not that the show was bad. 364 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,720 It was what was I doing there? My agents coerced me, like 365 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,080 genuinely coerced me as well because I said I can't like you 366 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,480 saying I Can't Sing. I Can't Sing at all. 367 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,880 I get sweat thinking about this. Coerced me. 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:15,560 The audition for Josh God's role in the the West End transfer of 369 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,120 the Book of Mormon, right, Which is a big tenor for role. 370 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:24,280 Like that's a big tenor role. So it's not just saying it's a 371 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,960 specialised oh. It's like it sounds like 372 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,960 meatloaf Josh Gabon, right. It's like it's amazing. 373 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,200 And I was like I can't and they were like I swear to God, 374 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,920 Connor, like they spoke. It was a Castor Peppa alien 375 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,040 who's amazing. She was like no, no, no, like he 376 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,480 spoke to her and they were like they're looking. 377 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,080 I think they were really struggling to fill because 378 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,320 actually Josh God came and done it. 379 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,040 I think in the end, because they couldn't find. 380 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,480 I'm near sure he'd done the first six months they couldn't 381 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,440 felt so they started going look, we'll just look for actors. 382 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,520 You can sing a bit because of the acting is more important in 383 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,880 that part than and you know, we'll teach them where the boys 384 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,640 go. And so I had to go to do you 385 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,560 know pineapple studios? Do you know pineapple? 386 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Studios really expense. Really Expense was in the 387 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,080 hallway when I walked in shooting and not even these 388 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,520 friends was in the hallway. I walked in and he was doing 389 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,520 like a mad plea a thing. He's like alright darling, 390 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,280 whatever. And I was like, oh, Oh my God, 391 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,080 and and search, get in the lift, go up the stairs. 392 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,320 And they were auditioning for Mamma Mia in one room. 393 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,160 They were auditioning for recasting something else. 394 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,040 And then down in the end was the was the the big Mormon 395 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,960 auditions. And it was like a made-up thing. 396 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,880 It was like fame or something. It was girls were like one leg 397 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,000 up against the wall, like leaning against it, stretching. 398 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,840 Everyone was doing vocal warmups. 399 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,840 And then I get there in the end and there was a few like heavy 400 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,600 lads, bigger lads, a bit odd looking lads. 401 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,400 And I went, oh, look, they all look like, you know, like me. 402 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,840 They're a bit awkward and a bit out of place here. 403 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Schwartz Grant was sitting. I'm like, this Book of Mormon 404 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,520 editions are like, yeah. And this guy, he's a big guy. 405 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Have you got frontally getting long hair? 406 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,240 Looked like he just crawled out of bed. 407 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,640 And he was like, yeah, I mean, this is Anthony. 408 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,120 And they called him and he was next. 409 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,640 And so he walked in and went, oh, sweet. 410 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,760 No, actually, I'm going to be sweet here. 411 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,160 I'll just fucking bring it. And I can hear the door. 412 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,120 And he starts singing. It's one of the most incredible. 413 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,200 It's it was certainly like Neatof was in the room like 414 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,560 this, like blasting out was like. 415 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,200 Oh my God, my agents had told me that there was only the 416 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,000 director, musical director and the cast director in the room 417 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,240 and it'd be dead children all so I'm gonna be healies. 418 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,120 I walk in the room, fucking big long room, grand piano, eight 419 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,480 people on a panel. The American producers were over 420 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,640 all these people. We're like, OK, corners are 421 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,280 good. I need to do your acting and you 422 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,280 do the acting and then turn and bust into the song. 423 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,720 I bust in and suddenly stopped me straight away. 424 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,360 She and they were like, stop. So you're just in the wrong key 425 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,520 there, Connor. And the musical director was 426 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,960 like, if you want to do me, me. And I was like, me. 427 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,360 The point where we'd done that about three days maybe me and I 428 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:42,240 spent. You know what? 429 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Let's just leave it here. I just think. 430 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,120 I think just leave it here. And they were like, no, no, no, 431 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:47,320 you can. I was like, honestly, it's fine. 432 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,480 Thank you so much. I just walked in. 433 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,120 I'm just going to the room. Never look back. 434 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,840 That was it. Yeah. 435 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,200 I was the most embarrassing humiliate. 436 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,360 That's nothing as bad. I, I, I once auditioned, I'm not 437 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:00,960 auditioned for many things before, but whenever I was about 438 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,080 17, I decided I should be in the TV show Skins. 439 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,560 Remember in Channel 4 there's like open auditions in London 440 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,280 and I make up the boss. Neither of us have ever acted in 441 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,680 anything. We got a it was like a 27 hour 442 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,480 journey to get there. Flew to London open auditions 443 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:23,000 and it was like improv scenarios and they said like it was me and 444 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,600 me, two girls and a guy I'd never met before. 445 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,560 Obviously they're all English and the scenario was one of the 446 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,600 girls has to tell us who are best friends and she's a heroin 447 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,120 addict now. Two things. 448 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,720 One, I tried to play it for comedy, right? 449 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:43,560 And and two, for some reason I found myself, you know, like I 450 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,240 stepped out of my own body and I felt like I was watching myself. 451 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,280 I started to do an English accent but was not good. 452 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,640 I should have done my own and it was out. 453 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,080 So I was I was making light of the stitch. 454 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,440 I was ruining it for them. And then I was doing this really 455 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,400 like half English, half Northern Irish accent. 456 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720 And like you said, it's one of those ones were seconds into it. 457 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,800 You're going I. I need to get out of here. 458 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Be here. That I, I, I look, looking back 459 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,000 on it, yeah, I shouldn't have went in the 1st place. 460 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,840 I shouldn't have been made to go. 461 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,080 I didn't want to go. Yeah, I trusted them and they 462 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,040 were wrong. But I like to think that you 463 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,200 still went out in the town where Louie Spence that night, like I 464 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,840 like to. I know. 465 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,640 You're so close to the AI. Yeah. 466 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,160 Where's where I see these things? 467 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 What he's up to. Have you ever seen an amazing 468 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,400 video of what do you call the girl? 469 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,320 The place? Bianca Patsy. 470 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,640 Patsy Kensit. Patsy Kensit Have you ever seen 471 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Louie Spence and Patsy Kensit a beta workout video? 472 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,440 No, but I will do that after this. 473 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,040 And also actually absolutely exhausted. 474 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,360 But it is one of the best watches YouTube after yourself 475 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,120 after. Excellent, excellent. 476 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,480 So let me chat to you about loads. 477 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,360 I could talk to you about. But one thing I want to talk 478 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,280 about of course is, is industry, which is unbelievable. 479 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,240 It's it's baby. It's correct me if I'm on BBCHBO 480 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Co production. Yeah, it was an HBO show. 481 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,080 The BBC came on board in the middle of us filming. 482 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,680 I would have. I naturally assumed it was the. 483 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,840 It would have been the other way about. 484 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,240 Yeah, so would I it's so bad Wolf who produced that are a 485 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,120 they're a Welsh production company, but they they're kind 486 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,200 of changing the industry in in the UKI think a wee bit in that 487 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,040 Bad Wolf have a great relationship with HBO. 488 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800 So they've done like his Dark materials Discovery, which is I 489 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080 hate Susie all that they're doing these big and and and 490 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,400 Jane, who runs Bad Wolf is an exact on succession and like so 491 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,800 she has that brilliant. And, and so she's, yeah, she, 492 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,560 she brought this to them first and they took, came on and then 493 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,160 BBC came on board and. And it's, it's one of those 494 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760 things that it's about quite a specific, well, the world is 495 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,360 like quite a specific thing of, you know, young people working 496 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:48,640 in finance in, in London and these working all ours kind of 497 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:53,000 massively stressful jobs, which my mate did a bit, he went to, 498 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,480 you know, a lot of people go from here to work in those kind 499 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,320 of companies or, or big accountancy firms in London. 500 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 So he, I remember him telling me a little bit about that at the 501 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,960 time, but it's just, it's very like addictive watching the 502 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,240 episodes are very like the next one starts before you know, what 503 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,200 kind of thing. So, so how did how did that come 504 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,480 about for you like the audition process for that and. 505 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,320 I was, I was in New York during the Ferryman and all the boys 506 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,440 were auditioning for it. Apart from me, I'm just Northern 507 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,960 Irish role and it's like I'm exactly. 508 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 And, and then eventually the audition came in, just came a 509 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,880 wee bit later and, and I taped for it. 510 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:33,520 Donna Tape didn't hear anything. Then had to do a zoom with the, 511 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,640 the writers and they and the creators, Mickey and Conrad, and 512 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,720 they gave me loading notes and taped the game. 513 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,440 And then I didn't hear anything for months and months. 514 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,200 And then got a phone call to do like a chemistry read. 515 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,360 And it was pretty much from there. 516 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,400 It was a bit mad. It was from there I went to do 517 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,120 chemistry, which was nearly the majority of the, the car. 518 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:54,360 No, it was like 6 or seven of us. 519 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:57,760 So the, the kind of main cast were all there doing it and 520 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,960 there was nobody else audition for the roads. 521 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:03,600 We were like went up in Cardiff into the studios doing this 522 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,680 thing and we all then left and were sent back to London and 523 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,920 then got a phone call and got it. 524 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,280 And that was it. It was like, like they, they 525 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,960 decided, I don't know how, but there was just, it was a, it was 526 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,680 a long wait in between that and then the next thing you were up 527 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800 doing it. It must be classed and not just 528 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,400 be involved with a project like that, but also when you know 529 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,320 when it be at the toughest time ever. 530 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,440 I'm sure four actors where like I'm sure there's great actors 531 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,080 that you know that haven't been able to do anything on the 532 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,880 lockdown period. So to do a great series like 533 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600 this at a time like this must be like an extra bonus. 534 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,960 We we shot it before lock, so we finished it. 535 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,760 Finished. It finished. 536 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,000 We we finished, but what happened was lockdown postponed. 537 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,080 It actually was supposed to be at earlier and that's why it 538 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,720 came out. No, it was the whole lock. 539 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,360 I don't know what happened, but so we shot it. 540 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:52,160 We we wrapped in January, so I like like 2 days before 541 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,440 Christmas W time last year we wrapped it and I came home and 542 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,120 was like so excited about the year. 543 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,600 But I haven't said that what a brilliant thing that I can kept 544 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,520 me seeing the whole way through it, knowing it was coming out, 545 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,120 knowing that that was coming, knowing that we, you know, and 546 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,480 also there was always a nod the season 2 very early on. 547 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,680 You know, we were all kind of so haven't season 2 announced 548 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,920 during lockdown all that It's like God send. 549 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,200 It really is like. And what and what's the I was 550 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,720 going to say? What do you get when you do like 551 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,280 a series or a film or whatever? There's a lot of the reaction to 552 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,920 that. It's different if I say I put a 553 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,320 sketch of the feedbacks instant, you know, you're not waiting for 554 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,000 people to for next week for the next one to be on. 555 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 It's there. The comments are all below it. 556 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,000 So when you do like ATV show or a film. 557 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,840 Is it? Different have the reaction to 558 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,960 that and lockdown where like you're not bumping into people 559 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,920 at the shop as much as you would or, you know, being clocked in 560 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,320 the street and have a stranger say I really like that thing. 561 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,880 Is it almost like you know that the show's gone down really 562 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,360 well, but you're not really too sure yet? 563 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Yeah, it is a weird, I don't feel like because anybody I 564 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360 speak to is it you're in the like, do you know what I mean? 565 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,560 Like people are buzzing about how successful the show is and I 566 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,400 don't nothing's changed for me. Like, anyway, I've been 567 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,360 recognised once, literally once. And somebody's went, are you 568 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,040 your mom from industry? And I'm like, yeah, in the 569 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520 airport on the way home, you man from industry. 570 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,640 And I was like, yeah. And he's like happy Christmas. 571 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,680 Brilliant legend. That was it. 572 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,680 Don't you know when you're like, that's the only. 573 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,360 Other than that, there's been no reaction to it. 574 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,400 So on that side of things, I don't see any, any difference. 575 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,120 But I know the show's gone down well because you see the reviews 576 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,080 and the and the. But yeah, it doesn't feel like 577 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,040 I'm in a massive. And how's it gone down in 578 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,520 America? Because it's almost like it's, 579 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 you know, playing the two audiences like the the audience 580 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,960 here in England, that kind of thing going on. 581 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,440 BBC hasn't been on HBO yet. It aired first on HBO. 582 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,360 It's went down like, ridiculously well. 583 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,800 Classic. I think they love as well just 584 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,680 the English accents and all that stuff. 585 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,480 They're like, you know, Americans love, don't they? 586 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,040 That's like Downton's. Yeah. 587 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,400 And so if out there, do you know, it's like here in 588 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,160 different accents or different world, they don't know. 589 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320 But yeah, it's went down like really, really well. 590 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Anywhere DMS? It's easy to be honest though, 591 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,720 shockingly, because I play an absolute wrath of a human being 592 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,440 like. Yeah, what a great character. 593 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,200 He's very troubled and you know, he's insecure and all that, but 594 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,960 he's still awful. The majority of people are so 595 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,760 nice, like just being like, I hate you, but you're such a 596 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,080 brilliant actor. You made me hit you like all 597 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,440 really, really nice games and there's been a lot of that. 598 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,040 And also like 1, somebody messaged me just saying what was 599 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,520 it he said? He said watching a few TV series 600 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800 or TV shows now. You're an absolute cunt mate. 601 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Haven't seen the show yet. Like whatever, but there's been 602 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600 stuff like that. But the matter stuff has been I, 603 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,640 I've got messages asking for lots of money just being like, 604 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,840 look, I'm in a really, really tight spot. 605 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Can you give me 25 grand? And you're like, of course, 7 606 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,720 years. A lot, a lot of that stuff and a 607 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,200 lot of like, yeah, there's been a few odd ones, a few odd ones. 608 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640 I've never had that. I've never had anybody ask for 609 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080 money like. It's not really bad Rina, but 610 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240 then I'm like, I think it's they probably do it to everybody just 611 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,480 like those emails you get. It's probably the same. 612 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Yeah, I on with your character then. 613 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Were you like, was there much wiggle room for you to put a bit 614 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880 of a stamp on it or was it pretty sad as to what it was? 615 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,080 Because what strikes me is like how natural it is. 616 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,840 There was a moment where I might be wrong, but you're like, just 617 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,920 like reading like football news or something to talk about 618 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,480 Liverpool. There was just this one. 619 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,080 I got this right. Share with me. 620 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Yeah, there's, well, there's a moment where you were sitting at 621 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,640 your desk and you're kind of not off screen, but you're not the 622 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,000 main bit of that scene and at least just. 623 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,520 This. Maybe maybe I'm wrong. 624 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,600 But I think my brains gone from that. 625 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,200 But there was a lot of that. There was a lot of that. 626 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600 But the majority of that, as much as I don't want to say 627 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,400 this, I mean, there's a bit of improv and I'm like, oh, I don't 628 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,720 want. But the boys wrote it. 629 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,120 The boys wrote all the everything. 630 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,040 They're so clever. They like, you know, they they 631 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,320 know those guys and said it. I think wiggle room was yes, to 632 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760 a degree, but there was nothing you wanted to change. 633 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 See, when I read the scripts, it was very seldom that you go, can 634 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,160 I say it like this? And the only times I did that 635 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480 was, are rhythms so different sometimes? 636 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,840 And they're so they write something and the rhythm just 637 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,680 always stuck. And I fainted awkward so ago. 638 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Can I say this word or put that word there instead? 639 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680 But apart from that, not really. And but what did happen was when 640 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 I auditioned for it, he was written as like a six foot 641 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,400 CrossFit dude, right? And then I auditioned for it, 642 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,320 which is Julie Hawkin, who's cast director. 643 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,320 You know, I love her and I'm so grateful to her. 644 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,200 Like she, she was like, but what about if he was like this guy? 645 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,520 And she threw me in the middle of the mix of lads like that. 646 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,360 And they went Oh my God, Oh my God. 647 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,920 And it changes the whole, his whole character changes from in 648 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,800 my height, my look in comparison to those boys, them working 649 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,040 class, all of those things. And so then they started writing 650 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,840 it to him. Get you? 651 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,640 Do you know what I mean? So initially it wasn't that. 652 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,200 So there was wiggle room in that way, but. 653 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,240 I could. I couldn't picture anybody else 654 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,200 playing, not like the the way you play it is like, I'm sure a 655 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,800 lot of people watching or and listening. 656 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,560 Well, I've seen it, but it's almost like you're always like 657 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,040 bubbling a wee bit under the surface. 658 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Like sometimes just a little bit and then sometimes a lot. 659 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,760 And I just imagine it's very fun character to play. 660 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,760 Class correct, class correct. Like me and Marisa who I like 661 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120 just harass and believe through the whole show. 662 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,440 Literally worst courses together, biggest messages 663 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,880 together and I get so much crack in it and it seems weird when 664 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,400 you watch because everyone's think you're so awful there. 665 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,240 How did you do it then? You're like so little crack. 666 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,560 See, see with Corpson, right that that's my big fear. 667 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Like if I'm doing like a production, that's well, 668 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440 production, not stand up. If I'm doing like something for 669 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,320 TV or film, I with like sketches and with stand up, obviously 670 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,560 with stand up, you burst out laughing halfway through. 671 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,040 It's like anything can happen. But one of my fears is being 672 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 responsible for other people as well. 673 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,600 You know what I mean? So if I laugh, I might fuck this 674 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,440 up for three other people. I might cause this the run over 675 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480 time wise. Have you ever got it like real 676 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,800 bad where you just have to like? Ask equally anybody use it in 677 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,720 the class of the ferryman? Right. 678 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,320 Oh well, the Ferryman is is a play which. 679 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,880 Yeah, that's way worse. Shows 1500 people on Broadway 680 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,600 staring at your 1600 whatever it is like to the point where one 681 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,400 actor who I had to came in the military afterwards has to stop. 682 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:49,320 Connor has to stop and. Was it was it different bits or 683 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,680 would it be what I imagine would be really hard, which is the 684 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,440 same one particular thing, one particular bit? 685 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,560 Yeah, that did happen for a while. 686 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,840 That happened for a while. I'm the I'm the type of person 687 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,120 where if something goes slightly wrong, I think that's hilarious. 688 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Because I'm like. Look at the it's 'cause you're 689 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960 watching actors freak out. So something's fallen or broken 690 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,160 or something. I'm like, 'cause they're like, 691 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,520 I'm like trying to keep an acting and stuff. 692 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,360 And that stuff cracks me up. Or if I see something funny and 693 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,800 if I clock something funny in the audience, anything like I, 694 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320 I'm not very professional or very good. 695 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,520 And I've read people's on stage experience from just and there 696 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,520 was tenses, but there was one time I just didn't speak. 697 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200 I had lines and all. And people look to go and they 698 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,920 catch it quick them to me look away and just go. 699 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,360 We don't even need them, just keep going. 700 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I, I've done one play. 701 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:46,160 I've done one play like locally. I thought that I had a moment 702 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,400 where I knew an actor had gone to the wrong page. 703 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,600 So the guy I'm doing lines with, I, I know he's about two pages 704 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600 ahead and that's going to ruin a bit of the scene. 705 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,880 So I in my head thinking on my feet, which kind of you do was 706 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,600 you have to do with stand up quite a lot. 707 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,960 I let me bring him back. So I'll improvise a wee bit, but 708 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,000 I'll bring him back a couple of pages. 709 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,000 But I, I brought him to the wrong page, which was like 710 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,679 another 3 pages ahead of that. So he took us to four, I took us 711 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,280 to 7. So audience be like, this is the 712 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,920 most very odd house. This is very. 713 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,280 He said about I thought he'd missed a bit where we were 714 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,080 supposed to be going golfing, but that comes way later. 715 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,080 So he said something and I paid him up for no pun intended, for 716 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,560 sure. We're not meant to be going 717 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,880 golf. I mean, I probably thought I was 718 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880 doing really subtly. I was like, are we not supposed 719 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,199 to be going golfing? What do you mean? 720 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960 I look like I though I it's that's part of the kick though, 721 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,760 isn't it? Like when you think you don't 722 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,480 want that to happen, but actually it's one of the most, 723 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,800 like, the most adrenaline you'll get, the most, like, thrill and 724 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840 going can I fix this? Can we get this? 725 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,280 Yeah, yeah. And that, whilst it's absolutely 726 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,960 terrifying, is also loads of crack as well. 727 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,760 What what was the the experience of the Ferryman like? 728 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,440 Like doing a ROM on Broadway, living in New York with I don't 729 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160 imagine load other actors from from home as well. 730 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Was that like a was that an unbelievable time? 731 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,800 Yeah, like we, it was like a travelling carnival, like all of 732 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,360 us, everybody, and also everybody kind of even when we 733 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,640 started the frame and most people kind of knew or knew of 734 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,280 each other from before and we're all there together in it. 735 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480 And, and then getting to go to New York, I mean, just dropped 736 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,840 in New York to do that show. It was like it was epic. 737 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,840 It really, really was. And we had so much crack in it. 738 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,880 And The thing is, the show was very serious and it's 3 1/2 739 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,600 hours long. So like the crack was curtailed 740 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,360 to a certain degree because you're doing 8 of them a week. 741 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,080 So it wasn't as like raucous as it could have been or that you 742 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,360 could imagine it could become. But but it was amazing. 743 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,960 It was amazing doing a doing a job with like all your mates. 744 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,760 Yeah, yeah, on Broadway. On Broadway too. 745 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Getting paid to be there and like absolutely class was class 746 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,320 me. Me and my dad went to New York 747 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,960 in March last year. Year before? 748 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,280 Yeah, last year. And then I was like, I really 749 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,320 want to go to Broadway. I really want to see like a 750 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,800 play. And I love Frankie Valli. 751 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,480 I'd absolutely love like Frankie Valli in The Four Seasons. 752 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,880 So I was like, let us let's go to Jersey Boys. 753 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,960 Couldn't believe the price of tickets online. 754 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,120 We went and I've got to be honest, I don't know where we 755 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,800 were, but it was not Broadway because the guy who played 756 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,360 Frankie Valli did not sounded more like Frank Mitchell, you 757 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,520 know what I mean? Like he was, he did not, like 758 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,640 they didn't Frankie Valli in The Four Seasons. 759 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,840 I don't even know if there was four of them. 760 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,200 I think it was just him and three fellas and it was not 761 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,360 good. But yeah, Broadway is something 762 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,480 like I'd like to go to properly, you know what I mean? 763 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,520 Like really go and see like a big thing. 764 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,240 Yeah. You go see stuff though. 765 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,960 It is hitting. It's like anything else, just 766 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,240 hit and miss. But it's on bigger scales, you 767 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,480 know what I mean? It's like, but there is 768 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,960 something magic about it. You know, it's Class A bit over 769 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,800 there. That doesn't really happen. 770 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,400 It doesn't happen in the West End or anything like that. 771 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,160 It's like the Broadway community, all the class, all 772 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,520 hanging up each other. Everybody's in touch. 773 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,800 Everybody's like, like our opening night, we got like 774 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600 because Bruce Springsteen was on in the corner. 775 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,520 We had like a wee letter from Bruce Springsteen saying good 776 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,320 luck in your opening night. All the theatres send each other 777 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,920 notes for their opening night class. 778 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,280 If something happens, everybody cheques in on each other. 779 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000 They do like Sunday brunches where you can like pop into a 780 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 theatre on a Sunday where they do a brunch before a Sunday 781 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,520 matinee. Like there's this community, a 782 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,320 real Sensi community, like, which is kind of like nowhere. 783 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,680 I've never experienced that anywhere else. 784 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,080 Would you have had like any mates that were doing other 785 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,080 plays like in diff like is there like a little bit of a Belfast 786 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,920 type like a northern thing out there or? 787 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,120 Who was there? I feel like there was at Rack 788 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,880 and me there was, yes, Chris, What's Chris's second he was 789 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,960 doing? He wasn't on Broadway, but they 790 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,200 were downtown doing a play and he's from from home. 791 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,480 He's also, what's his second name? 792 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,960 That's really bad. He'll hate me. 793 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,600 Sorry, Chris. We'll edit it in. 794 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,160 We'll top it his. Name is and then but lastly, 795 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,320 when I did cripple Venice, man, first time around the Irish Arts 796 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,080 centre had a festival in the first Irish festival and like 797 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,040 loads of people from whom were over like and that was amazing. 798 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,000 It was like and also it was my first time in New York ever. 799 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640 Loads of other people's first. We were all running a bit like 800 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,440 lunatics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 801 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,320 And so we're going to do that play. 802 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,760 They put that was an Irish cast as well. 803 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,080 They put all of us in these apartments facing an Irish bar. 804 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,760 I think the producers about the end of the thing, we're like, 805 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,400 what have. We done here. 806 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,560 I want to ask you a bit about like what you're up to now. 807 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480 Like you're doing a lot of writing now. 808 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,800 Is that something you've always done, or is that like a a 809 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,320 slightly newer thing to, or have you just been writing as you've 810 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,000 gone along? Look kind of new and not new 811 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,080 since like maybe five years ago, right? 812 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,240 And then yeah. And then just Captain I, I and 813 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:07,600 not captain out of like desperation to to start, but 814 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,280 more out of people going, oh, that's actually quite good. 815 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,880 Like do you want to be an upcoming thing? 816 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,640 And now I, I write out of like, I love doing it now do you know 817 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,440 what I mean? But initially I just done it 818 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,920 because it was forward. To be honest, it was wasn't 819 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,720 working and wasn't getting jobs. And like one, I've tried to 820 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,800 write myself a role and that, you know, it's like. 100% yeah. 821 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,360 That was that was the same thing for me. 822 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,000 I'd be newer to it than that still obviously, but but writing 823 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,360 the roles that you want to do because the roles that we all 824 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,720 want to play. And you're like, well, if I can 825 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,360 make it happen for myself, then that I've got way more of a 826 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,800 better shot. What, what one role you would 827 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,640 you would love to do, whether it's a certain type of 828 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,000 character, a real character, but playing them in a film version 829 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,400 or whatever. Like is there a project that 830 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,840 like is the is the ultimate goal or or a big passion? 831 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,680 No. What, you know what, No, I there 832 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,520 was a minute of time, but again, singing would be a problem here. 833 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,160 I'd love to do a biopic about Van Morrison and I look like a 834 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,280 young Van Morrison. We don't look madly dissimilar. 835 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,560 If you look at 70s, that would be fucking class, you know, And 836 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,200 I don't think that's been done yet. 837 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,040 I don't know how. I always think though, those 838 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,120 type of things are difficult, aren't they? 839 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,360 Because when someone's life is so you're spanning a lifetime is 840 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,080 always difficult to cram at India an hour and a half or 841 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,560 whatever that is. No, I mean that would be by the 842 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,320 way, that would be so much fun because what a what a complex 843 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,480 character who has been around for so long making some. 844 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,400 I'm a huge, huge fan and like, huge Van fan. 845 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,080 And I see Van quite a lot because he sits outside the same 846 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,960 cafe in Hollywood, like pretty much every day. 847 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,040 And also like someone who was doing something at a time when 848 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920 this place was in like this array and he's doing this thing 849 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,800 that's like taking over the world. 850 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,120 There's something really special about that. 851 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,560 I'd love to tell them to that period of time. 852 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,240 And it's one where like, I mean, I've never met him personally, 853 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:16,480 but being from Hollywood, that's where he lives and small towns, 854 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,040 he everyone knows about everything. 855 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,160 And people are like, he's very, he's very short with people and 856 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,960 he's, you know, he's grumpy. And I think I have zero problem 857 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,280 about if you're like that with everyone, which he appears to 858 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640 be. Yeah, also by this point, if 859 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,320 you've heard that a few times, surely you should go. 860 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,440 You know I'm not going to go near him. 861 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,480 Yeah, yeah. And then also I'd love to do, 862 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,720 I'd love to do Western and I'd love to do and I'd love to be a 863 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,920 real scumbag like Southern America. 864 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,280 That'd be class, Yeah. Form brothers, you know, like 865 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,600 something that that'd be class. Is say you had the so you had to 866 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,880 pick. I mean, is act would acting be 867 00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,560 way overwriting for you or are they starting to catch up with 868 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,440 each other? I, I, I, yeah, no, yeah. 869 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,000 Like, I it depends on what that is. 870 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,320 And also like, is it? It's like you, like, do you 871 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,720 like, does writing your sketches come more to you than act at the 872 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:12,960 beginning? Do you know what I mean? 873 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,600 It's like, it's a thing. It's a whole thing for you. 874 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,920 It's a whole. And sometimes, I suppose it 875 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,520 depends on the on the thing. You might love writing one 876 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,360 script more than you enjoy acting in a different thing. 877 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,640 I guess it's. Absolutely. 878 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,880 And then like when I like I'm writing on something at the 879 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,000 minute with me and, and, and we're doing that and there's 880 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,280 been this year, a few auditions have come in where I'm like, 881 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080 will that get in the way of this script? 882 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,600 Because this script means so much to me. 883 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,760 I'm going to read the script. So I don't love it. 884 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,880 So would I want to be doing this for three months? 885 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,040 It would take me away from writing this as we're, you know, 886 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,400 there'll be a different role that you will know. 887 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,960 I only want to do that this year. 888 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,120 I think it's that. I think it jumps and changes, 889 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,760 you know, and. You can't. 890 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,320 I mean, a huge problem of mine for years was I would, I would 891 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,080 write something or I'd come up with this idea and one person 892 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,080 would react negatively to it or tell me like, no, not this time. 893 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,160 I would just leave the idea, you know, I'd park it and throw it 894 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,000 away and never returned to it. And it was only until like I had 895 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,040 a chat with a friend who's stand up as well. 896 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,440 And he said when you find the one that you really like, like 897 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,760 don't take no was a I'm not something that's the project 898 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,880 that you know, you and I are working on together at a minute 899 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,400 as well. Do you see the thing with that 900 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,080 as well as like you, you, you know. 901 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. 902 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,320 You know, and so it then when you know that much and it hurts 903 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,080 that much that someone says no, you know, there's something in 904 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,280 there. And what's what's brilliant to 905 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,400 watch is someone's like integrity, someone's belief, 906 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,960 someone's like drive, find it. That's when things are electric. 907 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,200 And like, if you're like that, then you go along with them, I 908 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,240 think. Yeah. 909 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,400 And, you know, it wasn't even a thing of of having hurt 910 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,200 feelings. It was just a case of when I got 911 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,240 into doing comedy, all this kind of thing, I was like 1819. 912 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,000 And all you're trying to do is what you think people want. 913 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,720 You like commissioners or producers, you know, it's like, 914 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,400 what do you want from me? And, and you're more thinking 915 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,920 about what they want as opposed to this thing you want to do. 916 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,360 So so I would, I would have quickly been like, I've got this 917 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,400 idea. You ask one person, they might 918 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,080 turn it down, but the next person might say, yes. 919 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,400 But I was, I was always too focused on, you know, I have to 920 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,160 get something made. Whereas now it's like, find a 921 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,640 thing I want to write about and then get it made. 922 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,200 You know what? I. 923 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:34,120 Mean yeah, who should It's like isn't it the revenant? 924 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,160 Like, didn't they? The Revenant is 18 years in the 925 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,320 making because they refused to back down on how they wanted to 926 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,840 shoot it And like. Yeah, I wouldn't go 18 years on 927 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,280 this. No, they give it, give it up, 928 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,080 get I'd try. I'd just really park it. 929 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,480 I 18 years, he's still pedalling like that and he's still, still 930 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,400 like going to be in it and all that. 931 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,600 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, give it 18 weeks. 932 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,440 Yeah, I play a schoolboy in this as a 54 year old actor. 933 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,720 I swear to God, just give me a chance. 934 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,920 I, well, I mean, I think anyone can play anything nowadays after 935 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,040 seeing Robert De Niro in The Irishman and that's where he 936 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,760 kicks again the ground. Anyone can be any age, that's 937 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,560 fine. That was mad, wasn't it? 938 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,840 I loved it. Everybody hated it. 939 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,400 I loved it. I I liked it because I didn't 940 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,440 think it was a classic film. I didn't think it was a iconic 941 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,920 film, but I just enjoyed watching all those actors 942 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,280 together. And I enjoyed, I enjoyed it for 943 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,560 what it was. But the same where he's kicking 944 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000 the guy in the ground and he looks like a man of his age 945 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,960 kicking the guy in the ground. Just don't have that in. 946 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,000 Leave it out. Just leave that or or have 947 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,720 someone off off screen be like he's kicking that fell over 948 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:44,320 there and then kept him going. I don't know, I don't know. 949 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,920 I mean, what do you what like in the next a year is your, is your 950 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,400 goal to just focus on acting, focus on writing? 951 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,240 Well, it's kind of like I'm doing, I go back to industry end 952 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,400 of the year, I'm shooting something now here I'm shooting 953 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400 something next month. So that brings me up to like 954 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,880 March and then have a wee window there where one of the things 955 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,600 I'm writing on, I'm going to have to be working on that. 956 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,600 And then I'd start industry again, hopefully and you know, 957 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,440 mid early next this year and then that brings you in the net. 958 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,800 So it's kind of all done. And then after that, fingers 959 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,240 crossed the project me and don't understand. 960 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,440 Hopefully we'll be somewhere at a point where we're able to to 961 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,840 do it, you know. And so yeah, it's good. 962 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,840 Just do both and wait and see. You know, I got, I got to 963 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,280 confess something to writing this. 964 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,200 This really embarrassing. The thing that we're for project 965 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,960 that we're working on together. When I first came up with the 966 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,000 idea for it before you, you and I were in contact. 967 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,840 I can't, I was doing like a treatment and I was putting 968 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,880 some, some faces on rolls and I was like, maybe this person can 969 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,120 play this person. You know, I've never met. 970 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,760 But I put I put you down and thought like, you know, that I 971 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480 think, you know, that guy would be the guy for this, even though 972 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,960 we've never met. And I have like a Microsoft Word 973 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,200 document that's clearly dated before we met because I was like 974 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,920 the first time we talked, I was going, should I say, because 975 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,600 that's a fun coincidence? Should I have said that to you 976 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,680 the first time I met? And I was like, he will think 977 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,160 that I'm just saying that, you know, just do. 978 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,960 I I'm really good mates. One of my mates is cast the 979 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,040 director and I'm really like brilliant mates, like really 980 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,400 best friends and I had emailed her. 981 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,480 I found in my emails 10 years ago sending ACV headshot being 982 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,640 like would be so with such a pleasure to meet up with you at 983 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,280 some point. Very best wishes, your sincere. 984 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,440 It was such an admirer of all things that you work on, like 985 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,720 it's so embarrassing. I couldn't, I couldn't look at 986 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,320 that. I emailed the producer that 987 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,080 makes the blame game on BBC when I had done, when I had done 3 988 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,760 gigs, 3 gigs. I sent him an e-mail and I still 989 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,640 have the same e-mail account. And I said, you know, just, you 990 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,280 know, let you know I like the programme. 991 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,520 And just to let you know, I do stand up now. 992 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000 So if you need anyone, come and see me. 993 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,080 And to be fair, he emailed me back. 994 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,080 Fuck off. No, he didn't. 995 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,640 He said you're. Never getting on. 996 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,360 The yeah, I've been on the Radio One but doesn't card. 997 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,760 But he said he was like, listen, best of luck. 998 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,040 It's great to see you doing stand up, keep it up, that sort 999 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120 of thing. But it's just funny. 1000 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,200 The emails. Yeah, you were. 1001 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,320 All you were looking to do is like love to meet up, You know, 1002 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,280 I'd love to get a chat. I mean, it's I don't think you 1003 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,760 should ever lose that. You know you can definitely you. 1004 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,400 Ever see how brilliant with Bradley Cooper in the audience 1005 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,040 of the Packer studio? Isn't it like, yeah, desperate 1006 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,520 to know and desperate to be part of it, like. 1007 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:44,720 Yeah, very keen, enthusiastic. Yeah, I mean that I would cringe 1008 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,000 at seeing, seeing all my emails like that again. 1009 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,480 And it was like, unlike this guy was the limit. 1010 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,400 I'd love to see my old e-mail name. 1011 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:58,120 I think it was like Connor fire 2006 something like it's like 1012 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,920 flaming fire or something. My first e-mail address, but not 1013 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,880 the e-mail address I emailed people at. 1014 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,040 When I started stand up, my first e-mail address was Rio 1015 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,560 Right now this is so weird. Rio. 1016 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,800 Now bear in mind I'm like 13. Rio under slash, Ferdinand under 1017 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:23,080 slash rules with az@hotmail.com. Why the roads just do the crack? 1018 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,440 Why the Z? The Z because it was like real 1019 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,640 Ferdinand rules but I didn't want to write it like a nerd so 1020 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,880 I put his head on the end but so bad. 1021 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,320 Remember my mate said to me the other day in a message ASL, Do 1022 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,560 you remember that that was the HX location? 1023 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,840 Remember what was that MSN messaging? 1024 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,720 Yeah, yeah, it was an MSN. Stranger out of which? 1025 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,240 By the way, how many strangers out of John MSN Messenger and 1026 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,960 you just chatted to them? I see. 1027 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,120 When I look back at it, I'm like, definitely not. 1028 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,360 None of that was safe. None of it was safe. 1029 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,600 And I remember there was a way before Facebook, like way before 1030 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,480 MSN days, there was a website called Face Party, which was 1031 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,920 like the first. It was like a really early 1032 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,080 carnation of Facebook. You probably were on it, 1033 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,320 Everybody used it. And I remember you would just 1034 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,400 chat the random people like MSN, but it had pictures. 1035 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,040 And I remember whenever I was about 14, I mean it could have 1036 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,520 been a 55 year old man, but I was chatting to this girl about 1037 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,240 the same age who lived in Wolverhampton, right? 1038 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,920 Why was it doing it? Just quite random. 1039 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,440 Start chatting. And I remember sending a message 1040 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,320 being like, I might be in the area soon and I was like 14, 1041 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,200 When was I ever going to be in Wolverhampton? 1042 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,800 Drop me. By how creepy would have been if 1043 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,400 I drop by? So sketch like so sketch MSN. 1044 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,920 Messenger Do you remember in MSN Messenger you could do this 1045 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,040 thing on Windows Media Player where you could let MSN know 1046 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,720 what you were listening to music wise so you would try and listen 1047 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:51,160 to cool music. Do you do you remember as well? 1048 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,240 Bebo likes it was Bebo like she used to kill me. 1049 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,040 Like if nobody sent you love that day or if like up friends. 1050 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,800 So one moved you from the the like at really at savage like 1051 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,680 and having to go to school the next day and try not to say 1052 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,120 anything about it because like absolutely gutted. 1053 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:07,040 Yeah, you're crying about it and your dad's like, oh, you're 1054 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,320 still my top friends. You're like I'm your 1 friend 1055 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,040 Bebo. Where are our people accounts? 1056 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,000 Where are they now? You remember Jeeves? 1057 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,120 I'm from Ask Jeeves. Yeah, Jeeves. 1058 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,520 Just keeping them all, yeah. Just pictures and all on there 1059 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,160 I'd probably like to see. Imagine, do you remember that 1060 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,280 time because we're the same age. The look in Bebo days was the 1061 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,480 hair was like the same length at the minute on top. 1062 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,040 But like, by the way, we were, we were on a Zoom call a couple 1063 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,320 days ago when someone who were really nameless slag my hair and 1064 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,320 said it'll look like Peter Schmeichel when he played for 1065 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,040 Man United, which has really got to me. 1066 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,280 But do you remember you grew your hair a wee bit at the back, 1067 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,720 not like a mullet and like flicking out a wee bit? 1068 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,720 No, me neither. Anyway, Connor, great to chat to 1069 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:55,360 you and I appreciate. It he's got short back in sides 1070 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,120 and leave the fringe short short back in sides one the two on the 1071 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,840 top leave the fringe. Now with the fringe, were you 1072 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,800 going up or you going down? Oh, down me I would. 1073 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,360 I would wax it onto my head like chimneys. 1074 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,120 Oh yeah. Oh, like the spider, the spider 1075 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040 thing. I remember going, I remember a 1076 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,280 guy in my class called Michael shaved my head. 1077 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,440 Like I asked him to shave my head warm all over, kept the 1078 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,400 fringe and would dyed it with his mom's dye peroxide blonde. 1079 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,000 Absolute legend. Like genuinely look class. 1080 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,800 He did all the girls. That's good. 1081 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,000 Love you. No I wasn't ahead with the girls 1082 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,800 from primary school. The 1st girl I ever kissed was 1083 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,360 in P7 and shouted out to her if she's watching now she's called 1084 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,520 Rachel. Don't know who she is right? 1085 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,880 And she was only Rachel in my class and then it was P7. 1086 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,240 I went to sometime primary school P6 P 7 and one of her 1087 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:51,400 friends who also knows who she is, Anita, came up and said I 1088 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,560 need a you that was her name. And she came up to me and said 1089 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000 Rachel like wants to know if you want to kiss her before we go in 1090 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,040 for lunch. And I was like 100% went up 1091 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,800 quick kiss. Thought I was the forms right? 1092 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,840 Thought it was the quarterback of the high school football. 1093 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,080 Team sorry, can I just check did you have the fringe at this 1094 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,440 point? No, I think I did the fringe as 1095 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,840 a reaction to what happened here. 1096 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,320 Went up, give her a kiss, thought I was the man. 1097 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,880 Went back into class, found out about a week later she was only 1098 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,720 going out with me because her mate theatre and she was best 1099 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,560 50P to kiss me. And that has honestly made me 1100 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,520 the man I am today. And if she's watching you go 1101 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:36,800 fuck. I honestly, I honestly hope 1102 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,040 things have not worked out for but but yeah, I mean, yeah, 1103 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,840 magic imagine I still have a real complex. 1104 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,400 In counselling and all the time. That's why I want to watch your 1105 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,600 ad with the cardboard box. Therapist literally being a 1106 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,080 shame I can't talk about this anymore. 1107 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,000 Seriously, we've done this. Same same. 1108 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,440 My living room across me there's a 50 foot cardboard box I really 1109 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,480 need to take care of. Are you? 1110 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,240 Going to carry out. Dentistry. 1111 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,360 Connor, appreciate your time. Thank you very much for for 1112 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,000 coming on.