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I'm Michael. 
Che and I'm Colin Jose, and 

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we've got a little secret. 
Actually, it's a pretty big 

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secret. 
Well, now you got to give the 

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people something. 
I'm not saying a word. 

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Oh, then people will know to 
tune in. 

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Come on, tell them a little. 
Like our hosting of comedy 

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events streaming only on 
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drop in comic. 
Boom, you nail. 

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Into Michael Che's phone. 
Nervous. 

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. 
Hey, hey, hey. 

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New York After Dark. 
It's some kind of comedy thing, 

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and it's streaming now only on 
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You love it. 
Zippers, welcome to this episode

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of the tea with me podcast with 
me, she and Todd before we get 

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into things got a few things to 
plug the first of which is Opera

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House. 
Tickets are on sale for my July 

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shows in the Opera House. 
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They're basically away. 

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We've also got the 30th and the 
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and Thursday, but then we'll put
the link in the descript. 

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Well, we've done. 
Cheers, you're a nice guy. 

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The link will be in the 
description for that. 

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Also, patreonpatreon.com/TV Me 
podcast with a bonus episode on 

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a Monday, live stream episode on
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There's a few stand up our long 
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few months as well, So you can 
check out our patreon.com/TV Me 

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podcast. 
We're, of course, sponsored by 

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Thompson's T Some people would 
say that that's a tea company 

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from somewhere like Delhi, but 
they're not. 

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Even my guest today might have 
thought that, you know, Punjab 

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down. 
Don't rattle your case, please. 

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We're doing a podcast. 
What are you doing? 

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You're rattling paper and keys. 
All right. 

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OK. 
No one can hear. 

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That's what 10 didn't happen. 
Thompson's Tea. 

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These are these are the boys 
behind Panjana. 

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They love it, they love it. 
It's undoubted that they love it

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and we love it as well because 
it's Northern Ireland's number 

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one selling tea. 
The making in Belfast have been 

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making tea in Belfast since the 
1800s and that's complete actual

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fact. 
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time, they were, these boys were
making tea. 

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I don't know how it started off,
but they were doing it, you 

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know, whether they were just 
putting like a few leaves in a 

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sock and selling that open nuts 
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I don't know how it started, but
I know now that you can't go 

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into a Centra without seeing 
Punjana, without seeing 

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Thompson's tea. 
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sending me pictures of them Just
drink just drinking tea in their

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house and saying made it's 
Punjana. 

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OK, That's also like to to 
personal the photo. 

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You know, I can see, I can see 
your reflection and you're not 

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wearing any bottoms. 
But what we're saying is just 

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keep drinking Punjana. 
They make all different kinds of

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tea. 
They've got decaf. 

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We've got breakfast and it's a 
good time. 

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We're also sponsored by 
Manscaped. 

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The folks over at manscaped.com,
they have them and gone since 

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1800s. 
Because, you know, back then, 

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you know, male Grumman was not 
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You know, the top priority was 
not getting shot with a, you 

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know, arrow in the eye by by 
someone on top of a Fort Collis.

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And I only know that word 
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Fergus Castle when I was 
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And I remember the guy saying 
does anyone want to lower the 

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Fort Collis? 
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you in the end, but it was just,
I hear that guy. 

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But but yeah, man's below the 
belt groom and looks 2021, we're

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moving into 2022. 
You've got to move in with a 

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clean cut. 
What are you? 

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Why? 
Why you, Why you, why you 

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giggling? 
What do you say? 

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Yeah, port collars. 
But this, that's why this guy 

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got sacked from Carrefour's 
castle because he was saying 

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Fort collars. 
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That's the thing. 
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that day and started giving 
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Portcullis. 
I'm so fucking sorry that I said

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Fort Collis. 
You met evil nerds. 

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What Manscaped one of the pubes 
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about. 
That guy probably didn't have a 

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great situation down there, but 
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They've got the best and man's 
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products. 
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wireless charging technology 
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Is that right? 
Is that developing a junction 

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Manasa? 
Not officially, but that science

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type stuff. 
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for someone. 
It's brilliant. 

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If you're travelling, this will 
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Yeah, but it could, you know, 
Christmas 2022, you want to get 

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in there early, You want to get 
a gift for someone. 

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manscape.com, they've got men's,
you know, Cologne, they've got 

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ball wipes, ball deodorant, ball
toner, all this sort of stuff. 

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And they've got packages, great 
gifts, great presents for 

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yourself, manscape.com, use your
code tea with me for 20% off and

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free shipping links in the 
descriptions. 

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And there's also a thing they 
call anti snag technology. 

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So don't don't snag your bag. 
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punch bags, my guest today is 
some of them, but been hoping to

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get in the podcast for a long 
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We've got them. 
It's a big moment. 

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I'm looking forward to this. 
My guest is Carl Frampton. 

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How? 
You doing, man? 

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We don't have anyone in here to 
applaud but but yeah, I'm good 

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you. 
I'm OK, yes. 

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First things first, I made you a
cup of tea here. 

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Yeah, like, don't say it's 
better than it is. 

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Just be honest. 
Out of 10. 

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Oh, it's a good cop. 
Yeah, I like it. 

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You asked me did I like it? 
Strong or weak? 

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And somewhere in the middle, 
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That's perfect. 
Consistency. 

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Tastes nice. 
I like it. 

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Yeah. 
Do like it. 

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Is it ponjana? 
It's it's Ponjana Thompson 

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technology #1 selling to each 
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But yeah, no, I'm glad you like 
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Genuinely a good cup. 
Are you a big you? 

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A big tea. 
Drinker Yeah, I like tea. 

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I had the I had the used to 
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sugars and then obviously sugars
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and we aren't very. 
Good. 

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Tell me about it so. 
I taught myself to be able to 

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drink it without sugar. 
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was stinking at the start, but 
now I couldn't have a cup of tea

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with sugar. 
I like the way you like. 

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I taught myself like I lose a 
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Just training myself. 
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It was disgusting at the start 
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it. 
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recently and he said he takes 
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he's take it. 
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Fair was it? 
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know, I always thought you two 
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But he's I think he's trying to 
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a fight sword. 
I think he's trying to talk to 

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start it up. 
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episode with him and Sean and 
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charity MMA and I went because 
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buddy MMA training after he 
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And this was mentioned. 
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I think we could raise a few 
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tickets. 
It would be good crack as well. 

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I'd definitely win. 
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But then he says, well, yeah, I 
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But no elbows, no knees, No, 
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then, is it? 
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Yeah, so he doesn't seem as King
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week he seemed like he was. 
I think that's partly because he

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had shown with him as well. 
Bravado. 

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I don't. 
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Charlie? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, full force. 
Well, I don't know. 

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I don't know. 
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know, I let the referee jump in.
I wouldn't kick him in the head 

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if he's already knocked out. 
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expired and stuff by sparred 
potty, although we're mates. 

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You'd feel great the Chinam. 
Yeah. 

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And likewise he would say the 
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So yeah. 
But he was like, I think he is 

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really trying to because you 
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Paul, the when the trend started
beef, they're really like he was

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getting personal. 
He what? 

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He called you? 
Know what he called me? 

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Fat family man. 
The fat family man. 

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Yeah, like that's got a. 
That's kind of hurt isn't even 

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from him. 
That's what they are. 

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They'll be seen a ship, but it's
like, yeah, he's Sean called him

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a barrel. 
That's the perfect description. 

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You could see his weed belly 
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You can see mine a wee bit 
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I carried all their narrow but 
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T-shirt. 
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I mean, yeah, Look, I'd like to 
see the fight moved. 

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In a Patreon episode of here, I 
could referee. 

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Yeah. 
You beat him. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, I would beat. 

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Am I? 
I would definitely. 

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I'm not. 
I'm not just saying that I 

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would. 
I wouldn't first. 

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I just think I'd be genuinely 

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believe I'd be too strong for 
him. 

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Yeah, and just too vicious. 
No, I'd like to say it. 

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We two people in this room have 
been in your house before me and

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me and Mike have been your house
to shoot a video. 

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And then I was saying after 
people like, what was the house 

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like? 
And I think, you know, you're 

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doing well. 
When a pheasant walked past, we 

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were just sitting in your living
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mile, I was like, what the hell 
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And a pheasant down their past. 
And you didn't even look twice. 

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You said that that'll happen. 
Excuse the pheasants. 

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Yeah. 
No, that was a way look. 

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Why, Yeah. 
We also had the refuelled diesel

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going up the driveway, longest 
drive wherever it. 

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Was a yeah that was I don't live
not house anymore, couldn't 

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afford it that we've moved a bit
closer to Belfast just. 

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Did you bring the pheasants? 
There's a few pheasants. 

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We actually live close to a pub 
called The Pheasant. 

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You quite often see pheasants 
just strolling around. 

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Yeah, but that's we're not there
anymore. 

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You wouldn't have had pheasants 
back and tigers baby back. 

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No, no pheasants, few rats and 
stuff like that. 

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The size of pheasants. 
Everyone always like to 

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exaggerate the size of a rat all
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Of the sayings of a cat. 
Was it really? 

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I don't think it was. 
I can't see rats, mice, I can't 

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do well at all. 
My my dad gets we even talk 

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about rats. 
He hits it, doesn't like it. 

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Yeah, no, the thought of no, I 
can't, I can't, I can't think 

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that at all. 
Loads on a loads you want to 

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chat to you about from like 
getting in the box and what 

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you've been doing since boxing, 
the highs and lows of fighting 

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like loads and loads of stuff. 
But the main thing I want to 

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address is you and a load. 
A load other boxers sort of like

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a lot of people took off sea 
swimming during during lockdown 

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like everybody got into it and 
you and guys like Ryan Burnett 

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potty Sean loads of fellas were 
going out sea swimming. 

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I saw the first few photos these
during during lockdown was 

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looking at it on the phone. 
You know when you could go out 

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in about a bed. 
I thought that's class with boys

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are getting out and probably 
could have that camaraderie 

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again, you know, getting out of 
your comfort zone doing 

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something early in the morning. 
I was, I wonder where they do 

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it. 
And then I started to realise 

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more and more I recognise that 
appear. 

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And then I realised just we're 
doing it in Hollywood. 

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Had no one said to you like 
Hollywood is the best place in 

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Northern Ireland? 
Like no doubt, like the best 

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place, cleanest place. 
We've got free 3G, Free 3G. 

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You said that, right? 
Yeah. 

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The pine has free 3G. 
Why's that? 

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Who pays for that? 
Don't worry about it. 

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No one's concerned about that. 
We're probably open for it, but 

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it's fine. 
We got it. 

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But that's the thing, the water 
here is is the worst because of 

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the docks in Belfast, all 
chemicals being rats, like the 

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size rats the size of dogs. 
The sewage plant for all Belfast

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is like half a mile down from 
where you were swimming. 

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And I'm looking at video of some
of the like, the best boxers of 

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all time from here, some the 
elite boxing talent bobbing into

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the water. 
And I'm like, they're never 

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going to be able to fight again,
ever. 

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Someone told us about it and we 
didn't believe it. 

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Yeah, he was saying someone told
them about it and they couldn't 

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quite believe it. 
I'm really sorry. 

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That's my Butler. 
So yeah, we thought he was full 

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of nonsense. 
And then I met you on a flight 

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on the way back from, I think, 
London, and you told me. 

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I was down here. 
I was like, well. 

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I've been back since don't I've 
been back. 

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I was, I was my, we had an 
incident with a local resident 

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down there who we were all 
standing on the pier, big squad 

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of us, right, maybe 10 and we're
respectful when we come down and

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they are, is like we don't want 
to make too much noise. 

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Because you're there. 
What for saying like? 

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We are with our for some rays 
usually, which depend on the 

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time of year. 
It was probably about half six 

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at this time. 
So we're all, we're all on the 

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pier and this guy, we're about 
to jump in. 

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A guy comes out of his house 
with his house coat on. 

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Dressing it. 
Yeah, whatever you want to call 

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U.S. 
House called. 

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You know the house called like a
dressing guy, right? 

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You call it a house called. 
He comes walking down and thank 

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God for a player monster out of 
his door wants to jump in. 

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And then he shouted at us for 
being noisy and we weren't 

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noisy. 
Yeah, a few headers with his D 

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McComb who was mentioned last. 
That's Sean's. 

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Brother Sean's brother. 
He was on telling us about the 

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fact that his brother had been 
thrown out of his face. 

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He's not, he's a great guy, but 
he's just screw loose, absolute 

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screw loose. 
So these are and we're all kind 

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of standing there and. 
I. 

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I didn't want to be involved and
seemed to be annoying residents,

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you know, and Carl Frampton's 
down here annoying the people of

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Hollywood. 
So he started getting a bit 

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aggressive and the guy. 
The local, the local, right he 

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was. 
He's out in his. 

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Dress out his dress going being 
aggressive but sounded like a 

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yuppie, yuppie voice. 
So people started getting a bit 

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of grief back and I just turned 
around. 

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Because he got us, he got us. 
He says we're being too noisy. 

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Woke him up, I think. 
I don't think we'll woke him up.

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I think that he just likes to 
complain. 

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Who are these guys coming down 
here jumping into my water? 

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I think he might have had an 
argument with his wife and he 

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was on the sofa or something and
he seen the cars pulling up, but

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he started to get aggressive and
then he got the phone out like 

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he was just going to record us 
and report it to the police. 

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And I just turned my back and 
Beggedy McComb just says to him,

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If you don't fuck off back in 
their house, I'm going to fuck 

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you in that water. 
And he kindly turned and went. 

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He goes no, it's only coming out
there. 

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It's only coming out to. 
Watch your technique here. 

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It was, there was no need for 
it. 

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It was just, yeah, he was a jobs
worth. 

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And they would harm. 
They would have thrown them in. 

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Yeah, yeah, I fucked them in. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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There's a difference between 
throwing someone and fuck in the

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middle. 
He would have 100%. 

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I was getting a bit worried that
the guy was going to get 

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through. 
Don't go out like a load of 

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boxers a mad day and start 
giving shit in your dressing 

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gun, yeah? 
Yeah, I know. 

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There's no need for it. 
There was no, I think that I 

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remember I'm saying like, so the
peers actually quite a bit. 

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There's maybe 20 or 30 yards. 
So we're a good bit away from 

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the yeah. 
And he was talking about the 

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noise. 
I think the waves were making 

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more noise than us. 
Just just one of the ACT mad I 

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think showing off in front of 
his way to get in the good 

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books. 
But that's a yappy move to go 

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out to 10 loud. 
Just they don't give a fuck. 

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Yeah. 
Just put because most normal 

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people would would say that and 
go. 

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Even if you were being noisy, 
you go. 

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Not going to 10 fellas. 
Yeah. 

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You know, in, in, in, in the 
middle of the morning to tell 

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them to keep a noise down. 
Yeah. 

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But that's. 
Yeah, That's a Hollywood 

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attitude. 
No, I will. 

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I will go to them. 
Yeah. 

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I will go to them. 
Yeah. 

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And he never came back. 
Outside. 

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No, he never came back. 
We went down a few times after 

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that and he was. 
There was no sign of him. 

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And probably his own fault for 
Megan. 

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Yeah, kind of scene that he did.
But yeah, every time we went 

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down after it, we weren't so 
quiet. 

333
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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I think, do you want to remote 
again? 

335
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Yeah. 
Bits and pieces. 

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He wanted him out, but he never 
came back out. 

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Have you kept that up? 
I haven't done it in a while. 

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There's some boys still doing 
it. 

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There were so went from about 12
people to nearly two or three 

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now. 
But we've moved. 

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We're not jumping into this, the
toxic waste anymore. 

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We're down down at Brompton. 
Oh, but eh, like Helens Bay 

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direction, Yeah, it's bad, but 
that's much. 

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Better. 
It's lovely. 

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It's really nice. 
It's. 

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Better water. 
Did you find when you were doing

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that? 
It was like after retiring from 

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boxing that, not that it was 
like being back in a training 

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company, but it was like getting
up at the same time going with a

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lot of guys. 
Really enjoyed it, genuinely, 

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really enjoyed it. 
It was actually Stevie Ward who 

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suggested it to me and then he 
never went once with us. 

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And then I started going with a 
couple and then I just kind of 

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snowballed. 
There was loads of people in, 

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but I enjoyed doing it. 
It's too cold now. 

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Yeah, it's too cold to do it. 
I because I didn't buy into it 

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and then me and my mate Tony 
went to do it and I think it was

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about October short of time, 
went into the sea and I was 

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painful. 
We're standing the water for 

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about 10 minutes with painful. 
I was going to get out. 

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00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,800
This is after about two minutes 
I was like it's too sore, I'm 

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getting out. 
And I said just stick with it 

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once it started moving about. 
Yeah, you're. 

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Right at this point where it's 
freezing, I said it was dark, 

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but I started to feel like warm.
Yeah, not just like, all right. 

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I felt warm and it was nice. 
Do you piss yourself? 

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00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,000
Yeah, before I went down to the 
beach and then and then it was 

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moving about. 
It was lovely. 

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No, I think it's the first kind 
of minute and a half. 

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Two minutes is actually pretty 
difficult. 

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But once you're in there, you, I
feel like you could stay in for 

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half an hour. 
Yeah, if you want to. 

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Have you taken any other up any 
other hobbies or interests since

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boxing? 
Anything or the ordinary. 

375
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No. 
Pottery anyone? 

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Got nothing. 
No pottery. 

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No, not nothing else. 
Do you, do you feel like are you

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happy enough in retirement or do
you think you need some some of 

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the replace? 
No, I, I was, I, I like doing 

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not a lot right and just 
chilling out. 

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Is that common or do you think 
most boxers like was such a 

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routine? 
Don't know, need something that 

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I think. 
I don't know, there's guys that 

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love fighting, like genuinely 
just love to fight and love to 

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be. 
I wasn't one of them people and 

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I was looking out. 
I was looking out of boxing for 

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the last couple of years to be 
honest. 

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I probably stayed in a bit 
longer than I should have, but I

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was I was looking forward to 
with her and just just chilling 

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out, like really. 
And people say like, that's 

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dangerous though, isn't it? 
If if, if you're almost, if 

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you're looking out, or if you're
already have one. 

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Yeah, well, so it wasn't like I 
I always get full effort and 

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training camps in preparation 
for Fates, but in my head. 

395
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Good. 
And that Jamel Herring fate, 

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that was like after the 
Warrington fighter was thinking 

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about retiring and I thought, 
look, I'll stay in MTK and top 

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ranked. 
Top ranked approached me and 

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after the Warrington fight gave 
me this unbelievable deal, MTK 

400
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and top ranked together with 
Frank Warren says he'd get me a 

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world title shot at Super 
Featherweed. 

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So I said to myself, I'll stay 
in and have a crack and 

403
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hopefully I wanted to become a 
three-week world champion and it

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just just didn't happen. 
The Do you think it made a 

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difference because those that 
that heroin fight was behind 

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closed doors that made it, Would
that have made any difference? 

407
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He was in the same atmosphere, 
wasn't he? 

408
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,920
So. 
But some people like some boxers

409
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you. 
Know it's a bit of an excuse. 

410
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,080
So isn't it when you hear people
talking about the atmosphere? 

411
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That's why I lost but I I don't 
I don't see it like that. 

412
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,040
It's it's, it is definitely 
better to box in a in a raucous 

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atmosphere. 
When it's quiet, it's it's just 

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grim. 
I've done stand, virtual, stand 

415
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up and that's a bit different 
than that. 

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00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,760
No one's trying to knock the 
fuck out of me, but it is 

417
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totally some people I know like 
enjoy it. 

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00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,120
You know, like stream gigs where
you're just doing it to the 

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camera. 
Yeah, I, I you can't gauge your 

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reaction of. 
You can't. 

421
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But what will happen is if you 
do it on Zoom every once in a 

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while, it'll cut the people 
watching it and you'll it always

423
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go to their own person. 
It's always some guy who's 

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focused on, some say, a 
corporate thing for a business. 

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Some people are like, you know, 
watching the screen, laughing a 

426
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bit. 
For me, it always cuts to some 

427
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,520
fella who's like, he's texting 
and he doesn't know the screens 

428
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on him or he's muted it and he's
just like, you know, playing. 

429
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,840
You can see he's got a 
controller and he's playing 

430
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Warzone or something like that. 
You can't gauge it at all. 

431
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,600
Yeah. 
That's that's great, isn't? 

432
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It did you, did you have a plan 
like once you retired, did you 

433
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have a plan for what you want to
do or you just very much like 

434
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,440
see what happens? 
Well, so I was doing, I was 

435
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already doing bits and pieces of
punditry towards the end of my 

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career, so I was hopeful that I 
was going to step into that and 

437
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do it a little bit more often. 
But I was offered a contract for

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from BT Sport for two years, 
which I'm currently in the 

439
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middle of. 
I'm really enjoying it. 

440
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,920
You're really You're really good
at punditry. 

441
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I like it. 
I genuinely like it. 

442
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,520
And I think it's easy because I 
just say what I see. 

443
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,400
Yeah, that's that's how easy it 
is. 

444
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And I annoy some people 
sometimes. 

445
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And I'm not trying to be like a 
Roy Keane or anything like that,

446
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,080
like a bit of a deluded version 
of Roy Keane. 

447
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,920
I like to be honest. 
Yeah, Roy Keane likes to tram 

448
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,680
Wayne people up and annoy them. 
Yeah. 

449
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,640
But I just, I just try to be 
honest. 

450
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,760
Yeah, did you have to like with 
with punditry is there are you 

451
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,000
ever watching a fight or or out 
of out of venue go? 

452
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,480
I love to be in there. 
Or you delighted that you're 

453
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,520
not. 
No, I'm delighted that I'm not. 

454
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,280
I'm not. 
I never think of it really like 

455
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,560
that. 
But I've never, I'd never go to 

456
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,360
a big event and think I'd love 
to be fighting. 

457
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,120
I'm just happy to be still 
involved with boxing without 

458
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,080
having to do any any of the hard
work really. 

459
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,360
What? 
What do you miss about? 

460
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,320
The gym, the boys at camaraderie
in the gym, the boys in the gym 

461
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,520
in Manchester, right like it was
great crack. 

462
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,840
It was loads of characters, all 
similar personalities. 

463
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,800
All will see him kind of dreamed
and aspirations and pushed each 

464
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,320
other and training hard. 
But I thought gym at the end of 

465
00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,280
my career was unbelievable. 
Yeah, I always like, I always 

466
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,120
think if I was to go pro with 
boxing and guy, I don't think 

467
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,480
I'd like to do the gym stuff. 
I got to just do the fights. 

468
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,920
Just fight. 
I don't think I'd have the count

469
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,040
because I look at that as an 
advantage. 

470
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,480
I'd see my opponent go as far as
come off the back of, what, 223 

471
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,040
month count? 
Yeah, he's knocked his pawn in 

472
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,640
every day. 
He's probably sleep deprived. 

473
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,600
He's been away from home. 
I'd be at home the whole time, 

474
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,040
home cooked meals, not training,
sitting in plenty of sleep and 

475
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,120
then I think by the time the 
fight come around I'd just be 

476
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,480
really rested and ready for 
like. 

477
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,320
A dog ready to be let off the 
leash. 

478
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,320
Yeah, that there. 
Do you know what? 

479
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,640
There's a. 
There's a week I should go for 

480
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600
it, yeah. 
Why not? 

481
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,160
Yeah, there's, you know what? 
There wouldn't be. 

482
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,160
Literally. 
That's the thing with 

483
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,000
professional boxing. 
You don't have to be that good 

484
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,280
to be professional. 
Look at Potty Barnes. 

485
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,080
I'm only joking, but I mean, I 
mean, there's there's guys who 

486
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,040
who aren't very good. 
The journeyman, the column. 

487
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,160
There's some journeyman who are 
actually quite good. 

488
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,560
Yeah. 
And I know the way around the 

489
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,400
ring. 
But to be a professional 

490
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,600
football, you have to be good, 
don't you? 

491
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Yeah, yeah. 
Boxer Freddie Flintoff was a 

492
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,800
professional boxer, for one. 
Fight. 

493
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,920
Yeah, because you see those guys
and you know, yeah, like 

494
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,760
Journeyman, you see some fella 
who's had 81 fights and he's 

495
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,680
lost them all. 
That must be a Do you think 

496
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,400
that, do you think they think of
it as it's actually a really 

497
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,480
good life from it? 
I'm already good at boxing, but 

498
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,640
I'm getting paid. 
No, I think, I think that some 

499
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,880
of them go into it the wrong. 
So someone kind of turn in the 

500
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,320
journeyman when they don't want 
to. 

501
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
So they have a career and I get 
a few wins at the start and then

502
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,320
a few losses. 
Someone says to him, why don't 

503
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600
you just go on the road and 
become a journeyman? 

504
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,040
You'll get a grand of faith. 
You'll fight every week and and 

505
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,160
they've got an ore job as well. 
They don't really tree and they 

506
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,800
just turn up the four rounders, 
possibly A6 rounder. 

507
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,680
I'm going to be a journeyman. 
Yeah, it have to be. 

508
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,280
Yeah, you can do it. 
See, I, I like you say, like, 

509
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,680
you know, you don't have to be 
that good, but I, I would just 

510
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,360
do it all different. 
Some of them are better, some of

511
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,840
the journeymen are better than 
like these prospects. 

512
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,640
Everybody gets involved in 
boxing, the hobbies, big dreams.

513
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,600
I'm going to be a world champion
when realistically there's 

514
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,200
probably not a lot of chance 
that that's going to happen. 

515
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,520
But journeymen, the art of being
a good journeyman is not getting

516
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560
knocked out because if you get 
knocked out, you can't you're 

517
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,040
suspended for a month, 28 days, 
right, Right. 

518
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,480
You can't box next week. 
So the cover up and they don't 

519
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,920
get hit that clean and they 
don't try to win. 

520
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,480
Yeah, but they just they know 
their way around the ring not to

521
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,640
get that's a good. 
Chance I got guy who party dead 

522
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,000
fight. 
Remember in the Titanic 

523
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,920
exhibition centre the guy who 
just got him in a farm? 

524
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,800
So was he just rock doing things
like that just so he wouldn't 

525
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,760
potentially get punched? 
Yeah, I think so. 

526
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,840
I don't know what happened with 
the left. 

527
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,960
That was funny. 
That was Party's debut, I think.

528
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,320
Yeah. 
Because it was there was such a 

529
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,440
big build up. 
Yeah. 

530
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,840
And then in the I remember just 
one of those ones. 

531
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,200
I went to bed and then woke up 
and was reading about the fight 

532
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520
and party was like, oh, raging, 
you know, so annoyed. 

533
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440
And I was like, he must have 
lost and say no, he didn't lose.

534
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,560
But the fella like was running 
about the ring and then got 

535
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,400
party in a fireman's left and 
ran about with him his region as

536
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280
you would be. 
Yeah, you would be a sick smart 

537
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,960
isn't it Like pretty serious 
boxing like but everything potty

538
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,080
does turns into a joke. 
But he said the guy after the 

539
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,680
fight just like left with his 
gear on. 

540
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,120
I didn't get a Shard, didn't 
like just like went and straight

541
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,440
out. 
I don't know if that get anger 

542
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,520
goes Bulgarian. 
I think he's just in Belfast 

543
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,320
still somewhere. 
Just not going to bite in a 

544
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,240
pair. 
Everlast shorts. 

545
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:36,240
Get they get a lot of them in 
the foreign journeyman not don't

546
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,600
want to send races, but the 
foreign journeyman aren't as 

547
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,360
good as the British journeyman, 
right? 

548
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,960
You're not got a foreigner 
easier than a British 

549
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,480
journeyman, right? 
Why is it? 

550
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,680
I don't know because they don't.
I don't know. 

551
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Maybe more they. 
Try to win the foreigners that 

552
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,080
try to throw back and stuff, 
right, Right. 

553
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,640
And they're not very good. 
Yeah. 

554
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,680
The kind of British and Irish 
journeyman will just cover up 

555
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,320
and they know they're not going 
to win, so they'll just try not 

556
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,200
to get knocked out. 
It's really hard to knock 

557
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,720
someone out who's been really 
negative, right? 

558
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Like if you're just not trying 
to win a fight, it's actually 

559
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,640
harder to knock someone like 
that out than someone who's 

560
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:16,120
winging out to. 
Him I I think I would just try 

561
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,440
technique wise to really change 
it because like say, say, say I 

562
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,080
was going to fight a lot of it 
like I don't want to Chris ice 

563
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,920
boxers. 
A lot of it is, you know, jab, 

564
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,840
jab, you know who, what about 
jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, hook, 

565
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,720
something like that. 
Like like a different 

566
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,800
combinations 123, There's loads.
I'd be 1212121, you know. 

567
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,680
Yeah, I would. 
I think I'll just do that a 

568
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,560
little bit different. 
Yeah. 

569
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,760
And I'd offer him a chin out a 
lot. 

570
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Want see some people do it, put 
their chin out as a like yeah, 

571
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,120
try and hit the chin. 
Yeah, and then don't hit it. 

572
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:50,120
Yeah, and then you can counter. 
Yep. 

573
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,720
But A 121212, Yep, it's actually
just called six shots. 

574
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,880
So it's you don't say 121212. 
No, I say. 

575
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:05,920
Someone on the pod says sex. 
You throw 123456 you don't count

576
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,160
in twos. 
Just a gem. 

577
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:15,560
I came up in with it, we did. 
I came up in Freddie Roach, so 

578
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,280
we would he would have, he would
have said, but that's just 

579
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Freddy roots like he would have 
told us. 

580
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,640
That there is some trainers in 
furnace and it baffles me. 

581
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,720
I don't I don't understand what 
they're saying. 

582
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,560
But the numbers for job would be
1A right hand would be two, a 

583
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480
left two could be 3A, right two 
could be 4. 

584
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,440
So they're like 234, but their 
fighter understands what what 

585
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,040
they're doing. 
Is is there a genuine question? 

586
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,600
Is there bad trainers? 
There's more like high level. 

587
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,160
More bad trainers and good 
trainers. 

588
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,880
There's yeah, I'd say there's a 
handful of good trainers in the 

589
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000
UK. 
There's a lot of guys who, 

590
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,720
again, this is boxing. 
You know, we, any dickhead can 

591
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,640
literally become a trainer these
days. 

592
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,960
You go and do a course for a 
couple of hours and yeah, you're

593
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,200
a professional boxing trainer. 
Yeah, and you don't need to have

594
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,960
a background in. 
Nah, not really. 

595
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,720
Boxing. 
Not really. 

596
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Like as a fighter. 
Yeah, there's a lot of like PTS 

597
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000
involved now. 
And PTS are like boxing coaches,

598
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,760
yeah, I'd say there's a handful 
of good trainers. 

599
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,760
And in the UK there's no like, 
there's no like teachers 

600
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,640
anymore. 
People with wisdom and you know,

601
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,640
Gus, Gus Tomato and and and 
Dundee and Freddie Roach even. 

602
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,280
And there's no one teaching. 
They're all just good pod men. 

603
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000
They look good, looks nice to be
able to catch a pods. 

604
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,720
There's plenty of them about. 
But. 

605
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,200
What well has there been, I 
asked this question, a party and

606
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Sean, has there been anything 
during a fight that's like ever 

607
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,960
caught your eye or distracted 
you? 

608
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,680
Anything that's gone on, whether
it was in the ring or in the 

609
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,240
arena outside the ring, that's 
like broke your adrenaline for a

610
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,240
second. 
No. 

611
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Any famous face in the audience 
where you've caught them gone? 

612
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Jay Lewis. 
Was that one of my face day, 

613
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,480
Lewis? 
Then they lose. 

614
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,880
Yeah, Nelson all. 
Yeah, one of my early fights 

615
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,880
class, he came up from Angie's 
house in Waxford or Waterford or

616
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,440
somewhere, and he came up on his
Harley on his own right. 

617
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Then the Europa went to a crime 
bar on his own and his Leathers.

618
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Yeah, cool dude. 
Oh I always the coolest. 

619
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,000
And then what's the fight did? 
You know, did you find it after?

620
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,760
No, I knew he was coming but I 
got a photograph with him and in

621
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,720
the Europa and I don't know 
where to come find it again. 

622
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Shit raging about that. 
That's very cool. 

623
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Yeah, he's a nice guy, really 
nice guy, and he knows boxing as

624
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,360
well. 
Yeah, that. 

625
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040
I mean I was more thinking like 
local select like. 

626
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,480
Jimmy Nesbitt. 
He's been there. 

627
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Nesbitt's going to the podcast. 
Yes, that'll be that'll be a 

628
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,880
good moment. 
That would be good. 

629
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,600
I'll look forward to. 
That yeah, that'll be, I can get

630
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,560
very distracted by seeing 
certain people out of gig, but 

631
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,280
like the slightest thing is 
someone I used to go to school 

632
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,520
with and then I'm doing the gig,
but in my head I'm going. 

633
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760
I wonder what he does know as a 
job. 

634
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Before the Warrington fight. 
That's not during the fable 

635
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,800
before it. 
And the crowd was refused faces 

636
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,440
at that one. 
But Steve McManaman, you were. 

637
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,680
Yeah, I was one of them. 
I didn't want to put you off. 

638
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,760
I worked. 
Steve McManaman was there, 

639
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,480
right? 
And I remember thinking there's 

640
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840
fucking Steve McManaman. 
Haven't seen how many ages he 

641
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720
hadn't been on TV in a while or 
anything. 

642
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,920
What are you up to? 
Yeah. 

643
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,600
Didn't put me off, but I just, I
had a nice feeling about Steve 

644
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,640
being there. 
Imagine that was something you 

645
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,520
needed for every fight going 
forward. 

646
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Steve Mcmanaman's got to be 
there. 

647
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,800
Yeah, he's a big boxing fan, 
apparently. 

648
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,080
I met him after after it doing 
something for BT and nice guy. 

649
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,520
Did you ever have like to like 
maybe near the start of your 

650
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840
career when it would have been 
like a bigger deal probably for 

651
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,400
you? 
Imagine you used to. 

652
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Was there ever anyone like the 
Daniel Day Lewis thing? 

653
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,200
Was there anyone who ever like 
reached out even on Twitter or 

654
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,680
anything like that just to say 
they were a big fan or I can't? 

655
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,720
Really remember? 
I don't know. 

656
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,720
Probably not, because you would 
remember something like that 

657
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,360
with. 
Or a big Twitter follower or 

658
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,240
anything like that. 
Big Twitter follower No Roberto 

659
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:25,000
Duran follows Patty Barnes's 
wife, but not Patty Barnes or 

660
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560
me. 
I like those. 

661
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,640
Annoys me a bit. 
Yeah that's good, but a few 

662
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,800
decent followers as opposed on 
Twitter. 

663
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,520
It's always nice when you get a 
good follower. 

664
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,320
Oh why? 
Sometimes you get the blue tech 

665
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,520
guy and you don't know who they 
are. 

666
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,040
You have a fucking. 
Blue yeah, you follow 250,000 

667
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,760
people followed by 250,000 
people. 

668
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Guys like join my mentorship 
programme. 

669
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Yeah. 
And you're like, you know, no, 

670
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,240
absolutely not. 
Yeah, there's weird accounts 

671
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,120
like that. 
But I think definitely there was

672
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,400
AI. 
Remember when I started like 

673
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,560
putting stuff on like comedy 
online? 

674
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,680
You will get a follower where 
you will will you probably back 

675
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760
in the day, follow me would have
been like a. 

676
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Big day like. 
You definitely would have No, 

677
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,680
no, no, no, only joking. 
You would, but you would like 

678
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,920
you follow me. 
I would that would. 

679
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,080
That's a group chat screenshot 
like. 

680
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Oh yeah, yeah, 100%. 
I've got I've got a few of them.

681
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,400
You got a few you would put in 
the group chat like I've got the

682
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,360
big Flintoff follows me. 
He's a big name. 

683
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Yeah. 
Fifi Ballers, Harry Redknapp a 

684
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840
while. 
Harry Redknapp text me before 

685
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,960
the Jamal Herring fight and 
Graham Souness. 

686
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Right. 
So I have their numbers. 

687
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,080
Yeah, that's a big day lap. 
Better than having a follow 

688
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760
having someone's phone number. 
Having their number, yeah. 

689
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Jimmy Dornan's number. 
I've got him. 

690
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,680
Yeah, probably got that tell you
a story about Jimmy Dornan. 

691
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,880
So that house that you were 
talking about at the start with 

692
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,840
the pheasants? 
Yeah, in Bonebridge, I I bumped 

693
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,360
into him and I just moved, all 
right. 

694
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,680
And I bumped into him in London 
when I was training. 

695
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,360
He was just walking down the 
King's Road and a nice summer's 

696
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,400
day. 
Everybody's leaving them alone. 

697
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,120
I asked them, I stopped, was 
talking to each other and I 

698
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520
said. 
Like how many years ago 10? 

699
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,880
7 right. 
So I stopped, stopped them in 

700
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,199
the street. 
We're having a good chat. 

701
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,600
No one came near him for a good 
10 or 15 minutes. 

702
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,360
And I said, do you not get, do 
you not get loads of like grief 

703
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,320
being in line? 
He said, no, London's OK. 

704
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,520
But when I go back home to 
Belfast, it's definitely a story

705
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,920
like so he gets a lot more 
attention when he's in Belfast. 

706
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,679
And I said tonight, bear in mind
I just moved the bone bridge 

707
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,480
this time. 
But I'd said to him, Belfast is 

708
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,199
alright for me. 
I feel like everybody knows me. 

709
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,360
But when I'm in the wee times 
like Bone Bridge and all, you 

710
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,600
know, I do get hassled. 
And he says to me what would you

711
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,199
be doing this shit hole like 
Bone Bridge? 

712
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,520
And I just agreed. 
Now I don't know fucking Bone 

713
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,280
Bridge not come back. 
But I just bought a house Sir 

714
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,680
like 2 months before so. 
You would have got real 

715
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,240
defensive. 
I've pheasants and also sorry 

716
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:04,640
shit. 
Hole. 

717
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,360
If I've got 20 pheasants, I 
agree that it was a shit hole 

718
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,760
when I it's not a shit hole. 
Yeah, it's a nice place. 

719
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,600
I would. 
I would 100% be with you. 

720
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,680
I would have just agreed. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

721
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,800
But I was, I remember I was, I 
was wounded just. 

722
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480
He just after this goes at the 
town council are going to take 

723
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,880
back on advertising club. 
We're going to do with them as 

724
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,400
well. 
No, that was, that was actually 

725
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,960
good. 
But I'll give you this for 

726
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,720
Bumbridge, very good cafe in it 
as you drive in. 

727
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,360
I don't know what end I'm 
thinking here. 

728
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,360
It's on the right. 
It's got 2 levels to it and it's

729
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,800
a cafe, coffee shop kind of 
thing. 

730
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,880
Had a few really good lunches in
there. 

731
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,200
Really. 
I'm trying to think what end? 

732
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Is it facing facing fishing? 
Is it facing the downshare? 

733
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,560
The white hotel bar restaurant. 
It's that end. 

734
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,280
Yeah, that sort of cafe across 
the road, it's on the corner. 

735
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Yeah, on the, I know the cafe 
you're talking about, but not 

736
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,560
once or twice, but the down 
share across the road from it. 

737
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,880
Yeah, on Real. 
What about the Boulevard type 

738
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,200
play? 
See to me. 

739
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,800
Not in that. 
We're not ready for that here. 

740
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,840
We're not ready for that 
experience. 

741
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,560
We're like our our shops like 
bang in the town and walking 

742
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,360
about. 
We don't want to. 

743
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,560
It's a very American thing. 
Go to the mall. 

744
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Yeah. 
No one has time to do that. 

745
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,240
Like we're just trying not to. 
I always get people when even at

746
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,360
my face. 
They all used to come over when 

747
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,360
I fought in America and the the 
big thing they wanted to do was 

748
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,480
go to the outlets. 
Yeah, yeah, you'll love an 

749
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,120
outlet. 
Yeah. 

750
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,960
I just didn't want. 
I'm not in that sort of shit. 

751
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,680
I went to, I went to, I went to 
one of your fights in Vegas and 

752
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,480
it was such a good experience. 
It was like, it was brilliant. 

753
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,720
Yeah, it was a brilliant time 
because every you bump into so 

754
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,680
many people from home in the day
before the fight. 

755
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Yeah, on the day, like 
everyone's wearing Northern 

756
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,240
Ireland pops. 
See when the see when I was 

757
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:02,360
vivid memory of when all the 
Northern Ireland fans started 

758
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640
arriving in for the fight 
against Santa Cruz in Vegas. 

759
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,800
And it was there was a few 1000 
they'd all have their Northern 

760
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,280
Ireland tops on. 
And I have this vivid memory of 

761
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,640
a wee fat ginger man. 
Don't know who he was, mid 40s 

762
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:25,400
early 50s, maybe 5 foot 4. 
Similar height to me walking 

763
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,120
through The MGM lobby with two 6
foot plus black hookers on his 

764
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:36,320
arms. 
I just thought you are living 

765
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,680
the. 
Dream you never know. 

766
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,320
They might, they might not. 
I mean, they might have just 

767
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,400
been into him. 
Maybe, maybe they might have 

768
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560
just had a thing for we we 
fellas from here. 

769
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,600
That was that was I remember 
what walking through The MGM 

770
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,200
lobby on the way to the fight 
and it was like a football 

771
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,120
match. 
Everyone's walking together and 

772
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,200
and I remember a woman. 
I did stand up, but there's a 

773
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,040
woman like I know we all want 
playing the slots turn around to

774
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,040
a fella in earshot of where I 
was and said why are you guys 

775
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,560
all wearing the soccer tops? 
And like a guy, Jay was really 

776
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680
gentle one because we're going 
to the football boxing. 

777
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,960
I just was I thought he's going 
to smack her. 

778
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,240
She's just not there like this. 
But it was brilliant. 

779
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,480
I that day. 
It was my mate's birthday. 

780
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,920
We start drink. 
I'm not a big drinker. 

781
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,120
We start drinking really early, 
like with breakfast and go out 

782
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,520
and we're on our way to the 
fight And we're then we're we're

783
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,000
had the shirt on, you know, 
dressed up. 

784
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,320
We've had for it. 
And we're on our way to the 

785
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,920
fight. 
And Ruth Gorman was doing 

786
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,320
interviews for UTV and we're on 
our way to midday Blitz. 

787
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,320
And she goes, ah, she was you 
and your mate do an interview 

788
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,040
for this. 
And we went yeah, yeah. 

789
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,400
And it was about, you know, you 
in the fight then that sort of. 

790
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,920
And she would basically all she 
was like the noise. 

791
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,040
Do you think he's going to do 
it? 

792
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,880
And we were standing on, you 
know, the way in Vegas there, 

793
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,080
there's bridges all over there, 
so you can go from one side to 

794
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040
the other. 
It was on a bridge and it was 

795
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,880
40°. 
And we were standing there and I

796
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,760
had the lane against something 
because I could. 

797
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,400
I was just trying to keep my 
balance. 

798
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,200
And she said, well, he's looking
forward to the fight. 

799
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,680
And for some reason I just got 
like a wee bit emotional about 

800
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,600
home and I went, you know, I 
said, look, I think car is 

801
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,800
brilliant for home because he 
brings both sides together. 

802
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,560
And I once I started going on 
that thing, I just got like real

803
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,600
deep into it. 
And at one point I remember my 

804
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440
mate John took over talking and 
I remember looking at him but 

805
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,480
thinking I was watching him on 
TV and then going, no, I'm here.

806
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,080
And you can see all this 
happened. 

807
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,800
So they put the footage out and 
then UTV sent they sent me the 

808
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,040
thing and and thank God all but 
didn't go out because of my face

809
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,000
it was so bad. 
To see it, I could have walked 

810
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,880
with the fight. 
I never I was meant to. 

811
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,160
So it's I stay at The MGM, 
right. 

812
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,480
And the fight was in The MGM, 
but you can't just walk through 

813
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,040
it. 
Yeah, you're meant to get oh 

814
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520
shit. 
You're meant to get picked up. 

815
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,080
You're meant to get picked up at
an like an entrance or an exit 

816
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,280
and drove around the corner for 
your grand arrival to the fight.

817
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,760
So I'm standing there with 
Christine and Jake McGuigan. 

818
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,040
There's no car comes to pick me 
up. 

819
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,960
I had to run across, I think it 
was it was 4 lanes of traffic 

820
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:27,400
each way, 8 lanes of traffic. 
My backpack on did before I 

821
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,800
fought Santa Cruz. 
They could have been minced 

822
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,800
before I got there. 
I remember just thinking what a 

823
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,920
shit show. 
Like why, yeah, why? 

824
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,040
They're not a car here to pick 
me up. 

825
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Not a big, you know, prima Don 
or anything, but. 

826
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:39,160
Practically, you need it there 
you. 

827
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,160
Need it to be. 
And then I get into the back end

828
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:45,240
where you're not meant to go and
there's a lady saying what are 

829
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,520
you doing here? 
Sitting over your walls and like

830
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,720
I'm here to fight and trying. 
You're in the wrong place. 

831
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,480
Who are you and stuff and would 
see the fucking guy on your 

832
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,360
lanyard. 
That's me. 

833
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Just please let me in. 
I don't want to. 

834
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,880
I don't want to have to walk 
back or run back over that road.

835
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,720
He had to pull out of the fight.
He's just on the freeway. 

836
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,320
The amount of times I've had to 
explain the door staff of 

837
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,160
venues, I am the guy. 
See all the everyone queued up, 

838
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,320
they're they're, they're coming 
to see this show. 

839
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,400
You know, London guys like I 
don't know you. 

840
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,720
I'm like, I know you. 
I don't think you do know me, 

841
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,080
but I'm here to do the show. 
Happened to me at the the 

842
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Warrington Fade as well. 
I didn't have a respond on and 

843
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,600
we're in like a little cage 
taped area at the back of the 

844
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,320
Manchester Arena and guy knew 
who it was. 

845
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,600
He says if you got your response
like no, you need to respond 

846
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,320
again. 
And I said, don't see him like 

847
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,600
the lanyard, man. 
That's me in your lanyard. 

848
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Yeah, I know. 
But you still need a response. 

849
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,240
Like, well, do I need, do I need
a response? 

850
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520
If, you know, it's me and I'm 
actually fighting tonight, just 

851
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,680
let me fuck it in. 
And he ended up wazing up and 

852
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,560
letting me. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

853
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,320
That's a job's worth, isn't it? 
Yeah, of course, part of me. 

854
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,680
Part of me respects it a wee 
bit. 

855
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,760
I don't. 
I hate them. 

856
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,600
Yeah, OK. 
Absolutely hate them. 

857
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaking with Christine, your 
wife is definitely top five 

858
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,360
people on Twitter. 
Unbelievable. 

859
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,200
Yeah, she's very, very funny. 
So good. 

860
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,760
Yeah, she's just funny. 
She's a really funny girl. 

861
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,120
Because I remember that when I 
first saw on Twitter, it was 

862
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,400
like, she would like, she would 
put people down. 

863
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,200
Yeah. 
So anyone who was having a pop 

864
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,760
at her or you, Yeah, you know, 
and you probably couldn't tweet 

865
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,720
a lot then or you know, you're 
just you're in camps or you're 

866
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,160
fighting and you don't want to 
get into an argument with some 

867
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,440
fella from fucking Lauren, you 
know, or or England or wherever 

868
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,160
it was. 
But she was just so good at 

869
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,280
just, she was she's. 
Brilliant. 

870
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,360
She's really good at. 
She doesn't do it as much now, 

871
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,160
yeah. 
Which is done. 

872
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,120
She's completely. 
Done it. 

873
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,200
She's completely but she and 
that's I'm obviously on social 

874
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,160
media, but I'm not on it as much
because I don't want to be 

875
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,320
involved in arguing with Dick 
heads, which happened quite 

876
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,960
often. 
Yeah, but she was always 

877
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,320
defending me. 
Not that it neither of the 

878
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,560
family. 
You don't need your misses to 

879
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,840
defend you. 
But I liked it too. 

880
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,160
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

881
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,320
You don't want you done it 
because she was always funny 

882
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,080
with it. 
Yeah. 

883
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:04,680
The, it seemed like towards the 
end of your fighting career that

884
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:10,240
you went through just like 
beyond bad luck, like in terms 

885
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:14,560
of injuries and things that 
happened out of the blue. 

886
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,120
And it seemed to me that it was 
like a, it felt like a year. 

887
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,640
It probably wasn't, but it felt 
like a year where it was. 

888
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,720
Opponent slips in the shore? 
Yeah, can't fight. 

889
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,040
You're in a hotel lobby, wooden 
statue type thing. 

890
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Falls hit your hand. 
Not even it was like a, it was 

891
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,160
hard. 
It was like a not concrete, but 

892
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,640
something similar to concrete. 
This thing is pushed over and 

893
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,640
smashed my fucking hand. 
That was a bad one. 

894
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,080
And then you have the obviously 
the start of the legal dispute 

895
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,240
with Barry McGuigan. 
When you were going through. 

896
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:56,040
Do you look back on that and 
think that was it terrible at 

897
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200
the time or was it just one of 
those like, oh, don't laugh, but

898
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:06,040
it will cry? 
No, the hand one when, when, 

899
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,280
when I got my hand broke when 
the thing, the ornament statue 

900
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,560
called it an ornament at the 
start an ornament fell on me and

901
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:19,400
it broke my hand. 
People are, you know, I don't 

902
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,720
break your hand, but it was a 
fucking pillar. 

903
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,920
Like, yeah, yeah. 
So we're not will not happen. 

904
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,320
That was really disappointed 
because I've been in Philly for 

905
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,680
a month before, which is where 
the fight was taking place. 

906
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Yeah, it was a fucking 
nightmare. 

907
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,880
The one where the kid fell in 
the shower was my last fight 

908
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,160
with the Mcguiggins. 
And going into that fight, I I 

909
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,040
had in my head, I was there was 
too much stuff that I was 

910
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,280
unhappy with when I was leaving 
them after it's a win loser 

911
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,320
draw, I was gone. 
I wanted to beat this guy and 

912
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,920
pack it in. 
But even Mada, who would never 

913
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,840
get involved and say much, was 
kind of glad that that fight 

914
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,880
never happened because he just 
thought it wasn't in the right 

915
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,720
frame of mind and he got to get 
beat by a guy who's was all 

916
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,400
right, but not not brilliant. 
And then the court case stuff, 

917
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,480
that was just inevitable really,
that it was necessary. 

918
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,160
But it was a shame. 
It had to happen, but it had to 

919
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,640
happen. 
But I enjoy the whole core 

920
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,480
process. 
It was fucking brilliant. 

921
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,960
Why just get in the suit up? 
Every day or do news here every 

922
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,760
day because obviously it was 
like media attention stuff so it

923
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,240
was on for quite a while so yeah
it's like yeah, show off the 

924
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:35,440
range of suits here yeah we'll 
give suitor brother a mansion 

925
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200
because he's helped me out with 
the suits. 

926
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,560
Chris Suter and I've different 
suits and it got their point 

927
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,600
where I'm not court so much I'm 
having to change the trousers 

928
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,080
with a different jacket. 
Yeah, they give the illusion of 

929
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,640
a different suit. 
Why was there a lot of people in

930
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,800
the comments of, you know, 
article news articles being 

931
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,560
about opinion? 
Like he wore that before you 

932
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,440
probably were. 
Thinking it, yeah, I think there

933
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,960
might have been one or two, but.
But do you think that because 

934
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,560
that was going on when you were 
still, you're still fighting? 

935
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,240
Yeah, yeah. 
But do you think that had 

936
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:09,720
negative effect? 
No, because no, didn't. 

937
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:14,000
Because it was. 
I was. 

938
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,880
I, I was, I can't say too much 
here. 

939
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,480
You. 
Know, yeah, yeah. 

940
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,960
Just say whatever you're 
comfortable with, yeah? 

941
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,600
I think that I was just 
comfortable the whole way 

942
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,960
through the case. 
I was just going in and being 

943
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,080
honest, didn't have to tell any 
lies. 

944
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,080
Being cross examined by their 
barrister. 

945
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Barrister McCollum. 
Was his name Liam McCollum big 

946
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,880
like 6 foot four guy which is 
very aggressive. 

947
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,320
Every time he asked me a 
question I'd answer it. 

948
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,840
He just go you're a liar from 
then, Mr Frampton, you are lying

949
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,840
like, well, not was it Arnold 
Schwarzenegger? 

950
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,360
That's a that's a great move 
from Barry. 

951
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:03,440
Just hit the governor. 
So he would give me grief to say

952
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,840
I was lying all the time. 
So he said something in the 

953
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,560
court, in the court case and I 
can't remember but he I didn't 

954
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,040
know what he was told. 
He asked me a question. 

955
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,080
I had no idea what he was 
talking about and he had got the

956
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,880
question wrong. 
So he apologised and I says 

957
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,720
who's a liar? 
And I and the judge shouted at 

958
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,480
me. 
That's there from done. 

959
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,720
Show some respect. 
To wind up the Terminator. 

960
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:32,720
I didn't and I didn't. 
So the judge showed up me and I 

961
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,800
kept apologising. 
I really freaked out like sorry,

962
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:40,040
sorry, sorry, sorry. 
Send sorry Father Potty Barnes 

963
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,040
words that I said no. 
I was saying sorry Judge Potty 

964
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Barnes swore. 
I said sorry father. 

965
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,800
Sorry Father. 
But like calling to teach your 

966
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560
mom? 
But I didn't. 

967
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,880
I didn't do. 
You think you'll ever you know, 

968
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,200
being calm about it and looking 
back it then fears you because 

969
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,760
you know, you're you're being 
honest. 

970
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,720
But do you think you'll ever 
look back in the future? 

971
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:05,320
Definitely on it and go actually
that was of shame or you think 

972
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,160
you'll just always feel. 
The same. 

973
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:12,040
No, I just always feel the same.
Yeah, it is. 

974
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,880
It's a shame it happened. 
I feel like that, but it just. 

975
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,840
It did. 
When it's going to be a good few

976
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,000
chapters in the book. 
It's coming out next year. 

977
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Oh yeah. 
So that'll be good. 

978
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,880
And people think I can't really 
say too much about about the 

979
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,880
court case and about the 
settlement and all that, but 

980
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,880
anything that was said in court 
can't be brought up again. 

981
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,200
How much? 
Everything that was said, no, 

982
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,120
no, no, all right, right, right.
Everything can be said. 

983
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,080
And The thing is, people, it 
wasn't being reported properly 

984
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,400
by the media. 
I don't think I remember big 

985
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,080
things happening in court and 
thinking right, get back home, 

986
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,480
watch the news and then they 
just not mention it. 

987
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,880
Why do you think it? 
Is I don't know I'm the clue. 

988
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,240
As in stuff you were like, well,
great that that's going to be 

989
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:02,280
out because people will know 
this. 

990
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And it wasn't mentioned. 

991
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,880
So I'm going to mention then the
book. 

992
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,760
And people got a title for the 
book. 

993
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Well, no, no tale yet. 
We had to try to come up with an

994
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,040
idea. 
I had no idea. 

995
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,920
No idea. 
You said something there meant 

996
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,000
ago. 
If I had no luck. 

997
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,800
What do you say? 
Something I said if you didn't 

998
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000
laugh, you'd cry. 
Didn't laugh or cry. 

999
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,040
That could be a good title. 
It's. 

1000
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,840
Too long. 
Tigers baking. 

1001
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,240
Tiger King. 
Tiger King. 

1002
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Yeah, that'd be good. 
Well, that's probably they've 

1003
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,080
trademarked up. 
Probably Tiger King. 

1004
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Lion King has taken 2. 
Yeah. 

1005
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,320
Leopard King doesn't it? 
Doesn't You've no link to that 

1006
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,200
but. 
We'll come up with that, don't 

1007
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,120
worry. 
But the book I think is going to

1008
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,720
be very good, written by a guy 
called Paul Gibson. 

1009
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,040
I know, Paul. 
Yeah, great guy. 

1010
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,680
And he don't even Mcgee's book 
won a William Hill Sports book a

1011
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960
year and stuff and he's very, 
very good. 

1012
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,800
Will you? 
Are you someone that you happy 

1013
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,880
for him to I might just say you 
say you're writing your own 

1014
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,760
book, right. 
You could be very on top of it 

1015
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,960
and go, I know I said that, but 
don't put that in or are you 

1016
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,360
very much? 
Like no, no, no, no. 

1017
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,800
I'm like, I'm like, so there's 
been a few things. 

1018
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,600
We talk. 
He lives in Spain, so do a lot 

1019
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,400
of it on phone. 
And there's been a few things 

1020
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,920
where he's gotten written names 
wrong or whatever. 

1021
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680
So if they've all obviously had 
to be changed, but there's a few

1022
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,280
stories that I'm like. 5050 on. 
You know, I because I think of a

1023
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,840
didn't have kids, I'd be happy 
with them to go in. 

1024
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,320
But my wee girls, we are loves 
reading. 

1025
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,680
I she's 11. 
She's always reading books and I

1026
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,200
imagine she'll want to read this
book. 

1027
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,600
Yeah, I don't know if I want her
to know that. 

1028
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,520
Yeah, I mean it's totally valid 
thing like, but but then you 

1029
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,960
know she then reads a 10 years 
after. 

1030
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,560
That tell me I saw the guy or a 
guy. 

1031
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920
There's a story. 
It's good in the book and this 

1032
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,520
guy doesn't want his name 
mentioned in the book or 

1033
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,120
anywhere else but he. 
After I fought Santa Cruz in New

1034
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,360
York, the day after we went to 
the bar, Ani Moore's and 

1035
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,720
everyone got steaming. 
And then I was getting, I was 

1036
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:10,280
really drunk, so my mates got me
offside before I'd done 

1037
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,440
something stupid and went this 
hotel where a couple of my 

1038
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,480
friends were staying, the 
rooftop bar. 

1039
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,200
And I got more steaming and they
put me to bed. 

1040
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,360
So the couple that were staying 
in this hotel, they were 

1041
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,960
boyfriend and girlfriend at the 
time, but on Brooklyn Bridge 

1042
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,880
that night he proposed to her. 
So fiance's now they're coming 

1043
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,880
back to the room to, you know, 
do what you do when you've just 

1044
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,760
proposed. 
Dear Mrs And there'd been a big 

1045
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,320
person, big guy, that's all I'll
say about him, who could put the

1046
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,000
bed beside me to kind of keep an
eye on me because it was really 

1047
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,440
in a bad way. 
And he pissed the bed. 

1048
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,720
So he pissed all of my back and 
all on himself. 

1049
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,200
And so I just beaten Santa Cruz.
So I thought like, this is a 

1050
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,040
great story. 
You know, they so they come back

1051
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,360
in the fiance. 
They want to do the stuff in 

1052
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,920
their beds covered in this big. 
Why were you in their bed? 

1053
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,360
I was in their bed because we 
were in their hotel and they 

1054
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,720
just wanted, they wanted me. 
I was just falling around and 

1055
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:16,880
stuff. 
So they were like, great, he 

1056
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,440
needs to go to bed, right? 
Right. 

1057
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,040
Put me in the bed and the big 
laughs. 

1058
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,160
Are they well known? 
No, right. 

1059
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,880
He's he's well enough known, 
right? 

1060
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,320
This guy. 
Does he do the same sort of 

1061
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,840
thing you? 
No, he's, I don't want. 

1062
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,880
I'd say yes. 
I'll give a wee hint, but 

1063
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,360
without giving that away, is 
does better known than him. 

1064
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,040
Brooklyn Beckham, Brooklyn 
Bridge, I see what you did. 

1065
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,680
But anyway, so he he's pissed 
himself and he's realised this 

1066
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,320
because he got out and then he 
hung his shorts over the fucking

1067
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:58,720
the Shard or right. 
And yeah, he's pissed all over 

1068
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,280
me, right. 
And I thought that's a great 

1069
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,120
story for the book. 
Yeah, I don't think there's 

1070
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:07,640
anything bad in it. 
But he he worries that because 

1071
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,640
his dad is well known, my dad 
will be brought into this and. 

1072
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,440
I. 
I think he's, I think he's 

1073
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,800
really worried that his wife is 
going to find out that he pissed

1074
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,920
the bed beside me. 
We all pissed the bed. 

1075
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Or dead, like not for ages. 

1076
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,560
But like I didn't talk about 
9:00, that's a different story. 

1077
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,200
But. 
Yeah. 

1078
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,480
I think that's. 
Fine like a do you do you wet 

1079
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,600
the bed lit like no way kids 
stop my kids no, but my my kids 

1080
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,880
stopped at. 
Whatever, 3 or 4, the better. 

1081
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,720
Better people, better than me. 
Yeah, no, I, I don't think I was

1082
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,440
9, but I think there was a few 
incidents where I was like, no, 

1083
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,920
it's sweat. 
Will you ever see, you know, 

1084
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Forrest Gump, where he meets the
kid for the first time and he 

1085
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,000
asked Johnny's like, is he? 
Is he smarter? 

1086
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Is he like me? 
Yeah. 

1087
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,600
I had this feeling like my kids 
were going to be what? 

1088
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,960
The birds like me. 
Yeah, no, I think, I think I did

1089
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,760
it like a wee bit, a wee bit too
late. 

1090
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,800
But then I sorted it like I 
think I was. 

1091
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,080
Here's how I knew it was too 
old. 

1092
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,400
I was watching the Hollywood 
Hollyoaks omnibus on a Sunday. 

1093
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,640
That's how you know it's a 
problem. 

1094
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Yeah. 
You know, Yeah. 

1095
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,000
But yeah, my son's still doing 
it, but he's won the half. 

1096
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,080
I had an incident and I'm 
fucking tell him piss stories 

1097
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,240
that there's not a piss stories 
good. 

1098
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,480
I'm not going to tell you, but I
was a bad word. 

1099
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,320
I I was a bad. 
Man, why are you not going to 

1100
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:27,800
tell me? 
Just because I want people to 

1101
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,560
read it in the in the book. 
Want to give a ring away here? 

1102
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,280
Close the pissy stories. 
What's a modest fan interaction 

1103
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:41,840
you've ever had? 
Anything freak joke. 

1104
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,680
There's a there's a guy I met at
every guy I met at he was doing 

1105
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,280
security and Argos at Spruce 
Field. 

1106
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,600
What's funny about that? 
That's not the funny. 

1107
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,520
I thought you're going to say 
like at The MGM or something, 

1108
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,840
like, you know, in New York I do
private security. 

1109
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,200
Who do you do that for? 
Anyone who comes to Norgos. 

1110
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,320
So, well, this guy was doing 
security at Argos, English guy, 

1111
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,160
and he's speaking to me. 
And this was only a few years 

1112
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,560
ago. 
Yeah, in Argos for this 

1113
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,880
conversation. 
I was walking past to go to 

1114
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:21,440
Sainsbury's so nothing wrong 
with Argos. 

1115
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,760
So go to Argos like. 
No, I'm not him that's in there.

1116
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Is there an Argos in Hollywood? 
No. 

1117
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,680
There's one Hollywood exchange, 
but that's technically in the 

1118
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,720
horrid. 
OK, well, so I met this guy, 

1119
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:35,240
English guy, and he says I come 
over to see your fate on a on a 

1120
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:40,920
weekend Pico Martinez fight and 
down to the Titanic for the 

1121
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,000
world title big box and fun and 
stuff. 

1122
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,480
And I'm still here. 
What do you mean you're still 

1123
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,120
here? 
It was like 3 years after the 

1124
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,680
fight and well, you know, I met 
a bird and got her up the spout 

1125
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,000
and I am a daddy the nor Irish 
kid and he was like a Geordie or

1126
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,960
something. 
So that was that was a mod 

1127
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,760
story. 
I was a good story. 

1128
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,160
I like that story. 
Yeah. 

1129
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,400
So he he got the leg over on a 
one night stand and nice here 

1130
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,640
forever. 
Stop. 

1131
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,800
And now he's just stopping 
people stealing those sweet 

1132
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,440
pants. 
Yeah. 

1133
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,000
What about like do you need? 
Security and Argos for because. 

1134
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,040
The catalogues. 
What are you stealing? 

1135
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,240
Nothing's out in the shop. 
Catalogues, bonfire filler, you 

1136
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,560
know. 
Yeah, I don't really know. 

1137
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,680
The catalogues are attached to 
the thing because everyone kept 

1138
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,040
nicking them. 
But yeah, the pans and stuff 

1139
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,040
like that. 
Yeah, Argos is that isn't going 

1140
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,000
to get robbed. 
Like, I don't think he was doing

1141
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,240
security at Argos. 
I think he was just standing 

1142
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,400
outside it, maybe. 
All right, now I work here. 

1143
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,680
No one, you know, they don't. 
But like if I imagine you're 

1144
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,520
quite not intense fan 
interaction, but you know, 

1145
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,600
boxing is that thing where like 
if you follow a football, if 

1146
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,040
you're a passionate fan of the 
football team, you're following 

1147
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,360
a club, A-Team and a load of 
players. 

1148
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,320
It's quite a broad thing. 
Whereas if someone is a massive 

1149
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,760
fan of you as an individual, 
it's way more like focused. 

1150
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,840
So, you know, I can imagine like
a lot of people like we when 

1151
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,000
you're flying home from Vegas. 
I was on the same flight and I 

1152
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,560
was shooting like a wee video 
for BBC that day and. 

1153
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,720
You'd remember the guy sitting 
beside me. 

1154
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,720
Is that what you're going to 
talk about? 

1155
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,040
No, I'll go and tell your story.
Well, I was going to say, I saw 

1156
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,560
so many people come up to you. 
I I I was filming this thing 

1157
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,320
from BBC. 
I'd already shot up, but I was 

1158
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,120
thinking, well, flip, if you're 
I know you haven't won the 

1159
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,520
fight. 
So then they're part of me being

1160
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,200
like, even if you'd want, do you
really want to fuck be bald? 

1161
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,280
But do how many times can you 
say can you be interviewed 

1162
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,560
after? 
So I was like, Nah, I won't. 

1163
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,880
I'll just keep my distance. 
And I saw about 50 people come 

1164
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,120
up the handshake near hugging 
you people. 

1165
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,560
You definitely didn't know, you 
know, Carl and on it's it's it's

1166
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,960
in people are so passionate 
about you. 

1167
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,240
So I just remember seeing that 
and being like, that's probably 

1168
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,160
a good time to just not. 
Yeah, now there was, there was 

1169
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,000
plenty of interactions they got 
and people. 

1170
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,080
People were good to me though, 
and they supported me. 

1171
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,360
So yeah, it's never going to be 
a decade. 

1172
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,520
But it never even like after the
the day after the fight, we all 

1173
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,040
went to the bar, you know, where
you were buying everybody a pint

1174
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,720
and and having like a thank you 
all for coming sort of thing. 

1175
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,120
And I don't think that 
atmosphere in a way would have 

1176
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,160
been much different if if you 
have. 

1177
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,760
One good atmosphere, wasn't it? 
Because. 

1178
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,960
There was no like there was 
literally nobody going Foxy. 

1179
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,680
I come over to Vegas and he 
didn't win the fight it. 

1180
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,320
Was, I know. 
We've come over to support him 

1181
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,080
and it didn't go his way, but 
we've had a great time and we'll

1182
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,200
be at the next fight. 
You know, I think that that's 

1183
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,960
quite rare. 
Yeah, I'm saying all boxers. 

1184
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,960
Would not get that. 
I was really well supported. 

1185
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,160
That's probably my one of my 
biggest achievements is the 

1186
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
support and the farm base. 
Like they're really vocal and 

1187
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,400
really loyal and used to. 
I think there was in New York 

1188
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,120
was where 2000 went to New York 
for the first Santa Cruz fight. 

1189
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,920
I think the guest around four or
five for Vegas. 

1190
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,400
Yeah. 
It's just it's a lot of people 

1191
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,160
that comes in January as well as
a lot of people. 

1192
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,040
That would be a lot of if 
someone said you'd start a 

1193
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,640
fight, that's a lot of people 
come to come to a local fight. 

1194
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,320
If 5000 people are going to come
and see you in Belfast, that's a

1195
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,360
lot it. 
Was mental. 

1196
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,200
And was Windsor everything that 
you hoped it would be? 

1197
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,720
Yeah, but I, I wanted to fight 
there and people misquoted to 

1198
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,240
say that that was a boy who 
dreamed the fighter. 

1199
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,320
I wasn't because I just didn't 
think it would ever. 

1200
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,640
There's no chance of me fighting
a Windsor Park until I started 

1201
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,720
to get the fanbase and fill out 
the Odyssey and then the big 

1202
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,720
crowds going to Vegas and 
everywhere else. 

1203
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,880
And then it became a bit of a 
goal and ambition of mine. 

1204
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:40,080
But the only, the only thing 
that I would have liked for 

1205
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,400
Windsor is to have been a real 
title. 

1206
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,880
It was a WBO interim title. 
Yeah, people call them world 

1207
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,320
titles, but it's not a world 
title. 

1208
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,480
So I'm not going to say I'm a 
world champion for beating Luke 

1209
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Jackson. 
WBO interim fucking title belt. 

1210
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,200
It's just a governing body look 
on a sanctioning fee, really, 

1211
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,880
that's what it is. 
But if it had, if it had been a 

1212
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,520
proper world title, that would 
that would have been the ice on 

1213
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,080
the cake. 
Do you take events in like the 

1214
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,520
scale of it at the time or do 
you do it on a bit of delay? 

1215
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,280
What I mean is if I'd sometimes 
if I do a show like doing the 

1216
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,600
SSE for the first time on the 
night when I come off stage I'm 

1217
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,920
just because as a cucumber and 
just want to have a cup of tea 

1218
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,000
or a drink and then and go home 
watch much a day. 

1219
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,400
And then about 3 days later I 
always go fuck yeah. 

1220
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,160
I was unreal. 
Yeah, no, I do. 

1221
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,960
I think it's yeah. 
Afterwards you reflect a bit 

1222
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,520
more and I always, what I always
do is well, I used to go on the 

1223
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,000
YouTube and look for fans, views
of in the crowd, the singing and

1224
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,240
stuff I always loved. 
We'd love that YouTube and 

1225
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,040
Twitter and. 
Social media? 

1226
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,520
Suppose it's like seeing 
Instagram stories. 

1227
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,320
Yeah. 
Yeah, just a sing song. 

1228
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,960
I I I love that. 
Because your fans are, it's like

1229
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,640
it's this, football fans get a 
bad rap. 

1230
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:01,040
But every sport, I'm sure 
there's fans that, you know, go 

1231
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,440
too far and stuff like that. 
But in terms of atmosphere and 

1232
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,480
passion, football matches are of
nothing's comparable. 

1233
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,240
Yeah, but people bring that to 
your fight. 

1234
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,000
So I remember. 
And that's not the cruise fight.

1235
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,080
Like neutrals and Santa Cruz 
fans looking around and. 

1236
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,000
Yeah, what is, you know, they're
they're still cheering him. 

1237
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,240
But when he does something good,
they're cheering him. 

1238
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,800
Yeah. 
And the rest, they're just 

1239
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,760
sitting watching the fight. 
Yeah. 

1240
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,200
Whereas boys are just. 
That I think, you know, because 

1241
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,840
I was such a big Northern 
Ireland supporter and I think if

1242
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,800
you're not an Iron Football fan,
most of them supported me 

1243
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,720
anyway. 
I'm not saying they all went to 

1244
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Vegas and stuff, but a lot of 
them did. 

1245
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,680
So I was always confident. 
Windsor, even though it was 

1246
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,320
against Luke Jackson, who's not 
a household name, that I could 

1247
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,520
fill it because I had in my 
head, well, if you come to the 

1248
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,040
Northern Ireland matches, the 
stadiums filled all the time, 

1249
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,400
you'll want to take it this as 
well, I think, plus the boxing 

1250
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,800
fans, plus people who wouldn't 
go to Northern Ireland matches, 

1251
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,360
you know, I'd have support from 
both sides of the community and 

1252
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,720
stuff. 
And that was, I always was 

1253
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,400
confident that we could do well 
at Windsor Park, even though 

1254
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,720
there wasn't, it wasn't the the 
big name the dance with. 

1255
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,840
Oh, football fans, definitely 
our fans. 

1256
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,080
Because I remember playing 
against the football team from 

1257
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,320
maybe Roth cool direction when I
was playing for Hollywood and we

1258
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,120
were, you know, in the changing 
room just about to head out and 

1259
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,360
you were fighting that night. 
It was before Vegas, before New 

1260
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,080
York. 
It was it might have been might 

1261
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,600
have been Odyssey or what. 
Maybe it was one of the first 

1262
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,040
ones away. 
But anyway, we're leaving 

1263
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,400
children and before you leave a 
children for a football match, 

1264
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,520
few people let's go here and you
know, everyone applaud quickly 

1265
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,920
and then you walk out and we 
walk past their dressing room as

1266
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,760
they were doing that and they 
they did that and then some 

1267
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,040
fellow went Mona Jackal and they
all went nuts. 

1268
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,760
And it's like that's only that's
a different sport. 

1269
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,520
He's fighting at ours, but they 
and they they beat us. 

1270
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,600
So like you spurred them on 
their win against very good 

1271
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,680
television once he. 
Still play football? 

1272
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,080
Like who do you play for? 
Don't draw me and I'd admit. 

1273
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,320
I imagine you'd be a target, 
like trying to get people trying

1274
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,640
to kick you. 
Know no, not not as much as you 

1275
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,240
think. 
Definitely like good bit of 

1276
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,000
banter, but no one no, no, no 
one's done that. 

1277
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,040
Obviously like on the sideline 
you'll get a wee bit of a wee 

1278
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,080
bit of shit here and there, but 
it's 19% like what good nature. 

1279
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,520
Gentile, you're not even funny. 
Yeah, Yeah, yeah. 

1280
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:30,600
Like, well, well, not that's we 
personal, but but more like more

1281
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,400
like Keith Cruz type quotes and 
stuff like that. 

1282
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,200
And where's Bunter? 
Always get that I and my stock 

1283
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,680
reply to that and the fucking 
love it. 

1284
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,960
It's not it's not even that 
good. 

1285
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,280
I go, where's Bunter? 
I go. 

1286
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,960
He's coming on the second-half 
here. 

1287
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,040
That's enough to keep 5 minutes,
but I could get it sometimes. 

1288
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,400
But nineteen people are are 
signed. 

1289
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:56,320
I was asked to play for carried 
off 4th team right? 

1290
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,280
Who are actually all right. 
So they're, they're over over 30

1291
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,800
/ 35 really. 
That's what I'll be doing that 

1292
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,480
next season. 
So I think they're fourth team. 

1293
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,920
There were 35 guys with a few 
acts, Irish League players and 

1294
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,880
all that. 
They rack and they could beat 

1295
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,600
carried off second team, right? 
We're all a bit younger, so 

1296
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,120
that's to play famous, but I 
just feel like people try and 

1297
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,880
kick me. 
I don't think it would. 

1298
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,920
I think they would. 
Well, I played, I played a 

1299
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,320
charity game against like an 
under 18 team and everyone and 

1300
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,960
kicked the fuck out of me. 
Yeah, and I thought I had a 

1301
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,880
broken right foot and my toenail
fell off my left foot. 

1302
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,440
Yeah, after one, one game. 
Yeah, I don't know why I love it

1303
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,320
and we'll keep. 
I always thought like I'll wrap 

1304
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,160
it up next year, want to take, 
you know, make sure I don't get 

1305
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,600
injured for comedy and stuff 
like that. 

1306
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,800
But now I ever wanted to just 
play as long as possible. 

1307
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,840
Yeah. 
And it's brilliant. 

1308
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:47,960
Like it is such. 
I love. 

1309
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,120
It was charity game we played 
and I played loads of those. 

1310
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,960
I will always play in those and 
over 30 fives is good. 

1311
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,920
But you know when you play with 
those like Irish League Legends 

1312
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,880
and excellent internationals, 
it's that's when that's the only

1313
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,760
time I get starstruck. 
Yeah, we're playing Jim 

1314
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,400
Mcgilton's on the pitch or 
Gillespie. 

1315
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,040
I proper get like. 
Don't do much wrong, but they 

1316
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,080
just. 
Don't need to. 

1317
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,400
I don't need to. 
I play with Sammy McElroy, who's

1318
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,120
well in the 60s and it was at 
Windsor. 

1319
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,560
Jim McDonald was our big, 
Charlie Lawson was our manager 

1320
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:23,160
and and who else is playing? 
Paul Lehman? 

1321
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,680
Good few others. 
Why was I not invited this game?

1322
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,720
It was for Belfast Live years 
ago, I'm talking seven years ago

1323
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,560
and Sammy Macro is black score 
to hat trick. 

1324
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,400
But Sammy Macro is playing and 
he just stood on the centre 

1325
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,880
circle and didn't move. 
Then a 2 yard radius and the 

1326
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,120
ball always came to him and he 
just got it and passed it off, 

1327
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,480
got it and put you. 
Couldn't get me that game. 

1328
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,200
At CV we play the Magilton play 
Jim Magilton. 

1329
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,960
Gillespie I'm not Irish. 
Just yeah, Gemma Gilton sent me 

1330
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,360
up sure. 
For for my goal, I. 

1331
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:56,040
Was going to bring a goal up use
of all see Nicole one their goal

1332
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,840
was a good goal what. 
I was just wrong the. 

1333
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,320
People were Raven, you know I 
fucking can play because I see 

1334
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,320
not. 
Overall game was. 

1335
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,880
I think I. 
Really held it up. 

1336
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,800
I thought David Jeffrey was 
going to sign me for Ballamine 

1337
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,120
after, No joke, I was hanging. 
About, you know, you know what I

1338
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,440
thought? 
I thought you were a bit greedy.

1339
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,120
That's what I thought. 
You're a bit of a grief, but you

1340
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,320
never get that in your plan. 
So release the ball. 

1341
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,080
I think the first half 
everything was falling my way. 

1342
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,640
I was hanging on to it a wee 
bit. 

1343
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,920
But I in the second-half I 
started to pass it off more. 

1344
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,360
It's actually a released, you 
actually up a line for a nice 1.

1345
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,800
So it's hard sometimes when I'm,
you know, when I was feeling 

1346
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,600
confident DJ's managing them. 
I may, I could say an Irish 

1347
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,200
League here. 
So I was probably trying to do a

1348
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,960
wee bit too much but I remember 
the action internationals 

1349
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,400
obviously. 
I was standing to say Barry 

1350
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:54,320
Johnston in midfield, you were 
upfront and I split the defence 

1351
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,400
with an umm. 
You came kind of running in from

1352
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:01,000
the wing, split the defence. 
What a Barry Johnston went oh 

1353
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:06,280
what a ball, what a pass and you
at a Tate angle instead of 

1354
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,280
scoring it hit a shot keeper. 
See if the I remember just 

1355
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,240
thinking greedy boss or should 
have fucking squirted the 

1356
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,520
someone, Barry Johnson says to 
me. 

1357
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,160
Yeah, that path deserved more. 
Well, fuck Barry. 

1358
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,000
All right, I'll do I'll do 
midfield the next time we're 

1359
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,120
playing. 
I'll make sure I pass it to the 

1360
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,720
more people, but I think overall
great game upfront held it up 

1361
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,400
well. 
I'd actually been playing the 

1362
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,720
day before as well, so legs were
probably a wee bit tired. 

1363
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,240
But you know, after the match 
David Jeffrey said at Sugar's 

1364
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,160
hand. 
They said well, I'll do and I 

1365
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,160
said you, we, how's the squad 
looking? 

1366
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,200
A Ballymena. 
He goes ah good, good. 

1367
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:53,000
And he goes need anyone. 
He's like no, not really, but I 

1368
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,960
still think I do a job. 
Irish League probably play for 

1369
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,680
David Jeffrey. 
Irish League, you're a good 

1370
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:03,040
player, I reckon, you know. 
I'm not a lot. 

1371
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,520
I think it did. 
Maybe you could get under like a

1372
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,720
an institute type team. 
That's for a lot. 

1373
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,080
Of institution type thing. 
Maybe it's a lot call. 

1374
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,680
No, no, I would. 
Don't get me wrong, if that 

1375
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,600
happened, I'll be like a make a 
wish thing like I would fucking 

1376
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,920
love it. 
But no, the barely get in the 

1377
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,399
team play for yoga. 
Nah, well, here and there I've 

1378
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:25,600
been the first semifinal 
recently. 

1379
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,600
I've been away for five weeks, 
but I was like, but umm, and you

1380
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,040
should play for kind of force. 
Yeah, I might. 

1381
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,560
I might start. 
We'll give it a go. 

1382
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,880
The only thing is just hard. 
I'm genuinely really busy and 

1383
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,040
yeah and stuff. 
So if they need me for a week, I

1384
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,600
might. 
I might do it but and. 

1385
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,200
Anything else like just to wrap 
up, is there any, like is there 

1386
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,240
anything you're looking at go on
actually like to give this a go 

1387
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,680
or or get into that? 
Are you happy? 

1388
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,880
Just to I've always, I've wanted
to do, and we'll talk about 

1389
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,920
potty a few times next week on 
the MMA train. 

1390
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:07,120
I've always wanted to like do 
some sort of wrestling, not like

1391
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,520
WWE, like judo or something like
train. 

1392
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,880
Like I'd always feel like that's
a big, you know, you have to be 

1393
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,680
a strong fucker and you'll get 
really strong. 

1394
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,479
I'll bring it down to the Dojo. 
Sometime if you want, why not? 

1395
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,200
The North The Hollywood Dojo 
here. 

1396
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,359
Yeah. 
Is there one down there? 

1397
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,160
Sure that fell you saw that 
wasn't a house code he was 

1398
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,160
wearing. 
I was a gay. 

1399
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,439
I'd like to do, I'd like to 
train and get fed to do 

1400
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,319
something like that. 
Not that fate or compete or 

1401
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:33,800
anything, but I like, I like the
thought. 

1402
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,240
It's a different skill set too, 
isn't it? 

1403
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,319
Really different, yeah, yeah. 
But I feel like I've got the 

1404
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:40,319
right stature to be decent that 
judo if I wanted to be. 

1405
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,680
I went to 1 Upper Valley Leisure
centre couple of years ago with 

1406
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,120
the mate judo I think it was. 
Judo knows jiu jitsu. 

1407
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,840
That's an R1 I'd like to try. 
And I was, you know, rolling 

1408
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,560
with them, they call it. 
And I was only beginner or 

1409
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,640
anything. 
And a couple of times I, I like 

1410
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,040
they did the move that they were
talking about and rolled 

1411
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,120
someone. 
I was like, I'm really naturally

1412
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,640
talented at this. 
And then I took a step back and 

1413
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,320
watched how they were doing it 
with each other and went, ah, 

1414
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,640
they're not doing that with me. 
You know what I mean? 

1415
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,560
They were all, they were like, 
oh, you got as a weapon. 

1416
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,120
And then I was like, ah, there's
a lot. 

1417
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,960
There's a big difference when 
they're actually doing to each 

1418
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,320
other. 
Nah, it's, it's very technical, 

1419
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,560
isn't it? 
The jujitsu? 

1420
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,160
I'd like to do it. 
I'd like to do it. 

1421
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,560
Yeah, I remember. 
The jewel sort of a guy called 

1422
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,400
Walter McFarlane played for 
Crusader. 

1423
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,680
He's dead now but he was cruise 
captain when they played like 

1424
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,080
Liverpool in European Cup and 
he'd done judo like black belt 

1425
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,560
and I'd met him a couple of 
times but always heard the 

1426
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,320
stories that Walter McFarlane 
was like the hardest person I'd 

1427
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,000
ever played for the cruise even 
harder and Kirk Hunter. 

1428
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,440
Yeah. 
Which is hard to believe, but 

1429
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,640
that's what they say. 
And I always think Walter 

1430
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,360
McFarland on judo. 
Play football hard man, and I 

1431
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,920
could do a bit of judo one day. 
Yeah, well, look, we want to get

1432
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,840
you and potty, whatever the 
discipline is, martial arts want

1433
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,800
to set that fight up the barrel.
And I was going to say if I 

1434
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,360
found him on, but then I was 
like, I don't know if you'd be 

1435
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,960
angry if I said that, then I 
couldn't look in there. 

1436
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,640
I want to set it. 
But but I think that'll be 

1437
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,040
that'll be a great charity. 
Yeah, I agree too. 

1438
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,320
And we've got a wee better, I 
suppose this is helping to 

1439
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,080
promote it a bit. 
And yeah, let's get the ball 

1440
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,080
rolled. 
Where do you want to have it? 

1441
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:20,600
Seaview. 
Nah. 

1442
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,880
Too big. 
We'll play charity much for it, 

1443
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,920
and I'll pass. 
Too, Yeah, too big. 

1444
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:31,040
You could do it like the 
Waterfront, The Odyssey is too 

1445
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,760
big, but I think we could do 
quite a number of tickets for 

1446
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,560
that. 
Do you also? 

1447
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,280
I haven't been there. 
I've never been to fight Neil. 

1448
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,560
Strong What a what a venue. 
For Daniels. 

1449
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,120
Yeah, also all. 
I get. 

1450
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,640
Cost a bit though, like in terms
of rent and stuff, no. 

1451
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:44,800
I've given my business over the 
years. 

1452
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,160
Are we all right? 
Who will I fight? 

1453
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:54,600
The undercore. 
Blame game guys. 

1454
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,760
Oh, those? 
They're far too old. 

1455
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,160
Not. 
Tim. 

1456
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,520
I like Big Tim, really. 
Like Tim, though, I like Tim. 

1457
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,600
Tim's very funniest stand up is 
actually very. 

1458
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,680
I like Tim too, but I put. 
Him in a what I call the other 

1459
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,280
guy. 
Call Murphy. 

1460
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,760
Yeah, he's. 
Not very funny, is he? 

1461
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,360
I'm not concerned, I'm just 
concerned what his martial art 

1462
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,960
skills are. 
Like, but I think he's not that 

1463
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,120
well, he's probably 45. 
Don't know. 

1464
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,240
Something like that. 
So a few years on yet, but yeah,

1465
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,920
someone like him. 
Yeah, we'll do that. 

1466
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:34,000
We good decent decent match up. 
Right, set it up card cheers 

1467
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,480
coming on podcast When when the 
book comes out, come back on and

1468
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:39,320
we'll go through it and yeah, 
and we'll find out who will you 

1469
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,600
tell me after who that guy the 
pissed. 

1470
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,600
Yeah, in class, all right. 
Cheers everyone. 

1471
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,680
Thanks for coming on the 
podcast.

