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How? You doing, man?
We don't have anyone in here to applaud but but yeah, I'm good
you. I'm OK, yes.
First things first, I made you a cup of tea here.
Yeah, like, don't say it's better than it is.
Just be honest. Out of 10.
Oh, it's a good cop. Yeah, I like it.
You asked me did I like it? Strong or weak?
And somewhere in the middle, right.
That's perfect. Consistency.
Tastes nice. I like it.
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Is it ponjana? It's it's Ponjana Thompson
technology #1 selling to each years.
But yeah, no, I'm glad you like it.
Genuinely a good cup. Are you a big you?
A big tea. Drinker Yeah, I like tea.
I had the I had the used to drink it with milk and two
sugars and then obviously sugars in your tea when you're a boxer
and we aren't very. Good.
Tell me about it so. I taught myself to be able to
drink it without sugar. It took me a while because it
was stinking at the start, but now I couldn't have a cup of tea
with sugar. I like the way you like.
I taught myself like I lose a big thing.
Just training myself. Yeah, it was.
It was disgusting at the start but that's the only way I have
it. But we are potty bones on
recently and he said he takes away 4 sugars now he thought
he's take it. But it wasn't very good.
Fair was it? Well, look, I, I don't know, you
know, I always thought you two were really good mates.
But he's I think he's trying to get, I think he's trying to get
a fight sword. I think he's trying to talk to
start it up. I watched the I watched the
episode with him and Sean and kind of mentioned about doing a
charity MMA and I went because he was training, he was doing a
buddy MMA training after he retired just for fitness.
And this was mentioned. I thought why not?
I think we could raise a few quid for a charity, sell a few
tickets. It would be good crack as well.
I'd definitely win. And he he kind of agreed to it.
But then he says, well, yeah, I will do it.
But no elbows, no knees, No, like, well, it's not really MMA
then, is it? What is it to call?
Yeah, so he doesn't seem as King I, but then on the show last
week he seemed like he was. I think that's partly because he
had shown with him as well. Bravado.
I don't. Could you kick him in the head,
Charlie? Yeah.
Yeah, full force. Well, I don't know.
I don't know. Not if he's like LAN out, you
know, I let the referee jump in. I wouldn't kick him in the head
if he's already knocked out. But yeah, I would like it's
expired and stuff by sparred potty, although we're mates.
You'd feel great the Chinam. Yeah.
And likewise he would say the same about about me.
So yeah. But he was like, I think he is
really trying to because you know, like people like Jake
Paul, the when the trend started beef, they're really like he was
getting personal. He what?
He called you? Know what he called me?
Fat family man. The fat family man.
Yeah, like that's got a. That's kind of hurt isn't even
from him. That's what they are.
They'll be seen a ship, but it's like, yeah, he's Sean called him
a barrel. That's the perfect description.
You could see his weed belly sticking out.
You can see mine a wee bit there.
I carried all their narrow but if you were a big enough
T-shirt. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, Look, I'd like to see the fight moved.
In a Patreon episode of here, I could referee.
Yeah. You beat him.
Yeah. Yeah, I would beat.
Am I? I would definitely.
I'm not. I'm not just saying that I
would. I wouldn't first.
Yeah. I just think I'd be genuinely
believe I'd be too strong for him.
Yeah, and just too vicious. No, I'd like to say it.
We two people in this room have been in your house before me and
me and Mike have been your house to shoot a video.
And then I was saying after people like, what was the house
like? And I think, you know, you're
doing well. When a pheasant walked past, we
were just sitting in your living room and something at a quarter
mile, I was like, what the hell is that?
And a pheasant down their past. And you didn't even look twice.
You said that that'll happen. Excuse the pheasants.
Yeah. No, that was a way look.
Why, Yeah. We also had the refuelled diesel
going up the driveway, longest drive wherever it.
Was a yeah that was I don't live not house anymore, couldn't
afford it that we've moved a bit closer to Belfast just.
Did you bring the pheasants? There's a few pheasants.
We actually live close to a pub called The Pheasant.
You quite often see pheasants just strolling around.
Yeah, but that's we're not there anymore.
You wouldn't have had pheasants back and tigers baby back.
No, no pheasants, few rats and stuff like that.
The size of pheasants. Everyone always like to
exaggerate the size of a rat all the time.
Of the sayings of a cat. Was it really?
I don't think it was. I can't see rats, mice, I can't
do well at all. My my dad gets we even talk
about rats. He hits it, doesn't like it.
Yeah, no, the thought of no, I can't, I can't, I can't think
that at all. Loads on a loads you want to
chat to you about from like getting in the box and what
you've been doing since boxing, the highs and lows of fighting
like loads and loads of stuff. But the main thing I want to
address is you and a load. A load other boxers sort of like
a lot of people took off sea swimming during during lockdown
like everybody got into it and you and guys like Ryan Burnett
potty Sean loads of fellas were going out sea swimming.
I saw the first few photos these during during lockdown was
looking at it on the phone. You know when you could go out
in about a bed. I thought that's class with boys
are getting out and probably could have that camaraderie
again, you know, getting out of your comfort zone doing
something early in the morning. I was, I wonder where they do
it. And then I started to realise
more and more I recognise that appear.
And then I realised just we're doing it in Hollywood.
Had no one said to you like Hollywood is the best place in
Northern Ireland? Like no doubt, like the best
place, cleanest place. We've got free 3G, Free 3G.
You said that, right? Yeah.
The pine has free 3G. Why's that?
Who pays for that? Don't worry about it.
No one's concerned about that. We're probably open for it, but
it's fine. We got it.
But that's the thing, the water here is is the worst because of
the docks in Belfast, all chemicals being rats, like the
size rats the size of dogs. The sewage plant for all Belfast
is like half a mile down from where you were swimming.
And I'm looking at video of some of the like, the best boxers of
all time from here, some the elite boxing talent bobbing into
the water. And I'm like, they're never
going to be able to fight again, ever.
Someone told us about it and we didn't believe it.
Yeah, he was saying someone told them about it and they couldn't
quite believe it. I'm really sorry.
That's my Butler. So yeah, we thought he was full
of nonsense. And then I met you on a flight
on the way back from, I think, London, and you told me.
I was down here. I was like, well.
I've been back since don't I've been back.
I was, I was my, we had an incident with a local resident
down there who we were all standing on the pier, big squad
of us, right, maybe 10 and we're respectful when we come down and
they are, is like we don't want to make too much noise.
Because you're there. What for saying like?
We are with our for some rays usually, which depend on the
time of year. It was probably about half six
at this time. So we're all, we're all on the
pier and this guy, we're about to jump in.
A guy comes out of his house with his house coat on.
Dressing it. Yeah, whatever you want to call
U.S. House called.
You know the house called like a dressing guy, right?
You call it a house called. He comes walking down and thank
God for a player monster out of his door wants to jump in.
And then he shouted at us for being noisy and we weren't
noisy. Yeah, a few headers with his D
McComb who was mentioned last. That's Sean's.
Brother Sean's brother. He was on telling us about the
fact that his brother had been thrown out of his face.
He's not, he's a great guy, but he's just screw loose, absolute
screw loose. So these are and we're all kind
of standing there and. I.
I didn't want to be involved and seemed to be annoying residents,
you know, and Carl Frampton's down here annoying the people of
Hollywood. So he started getting a bit
aggressive and the guy. The local, the local, right he
was. He's out in his.
Dress out his dress going being aggressive but sounded like a
yuppie, yuppie voice. So people started getting a bit
of grief back and I just turned around.
Because he got us, he got us. He says we're being too noisy.
Woke him up, I think. I don't think we'll woke him up.
I think that he just likes to complain.
Who are these guys coming down here jumping into my water?
I think he might have had an argument with his wife and he
was on the sofa or something and he seen the cars pulling up, but
he started to get aggressive and then he got the phone out like
he was just going to record us and report it to the police.
And I just turned my back and Beggedy McComb just says to him,
If you don't fuck off back in their house, I'm going to fuck
you in that water. And he kindly turned and went.
He goes no, it's only coming out there.
It's only coming out to. Watch your technique here.
It was, there was no need for it.
It was just, yeah, he was a jobs worth.
And they would harm. They would have thrown them in.
Yeah, yeah, I fucked them in. Yeah, yeah.
There's a difference between throwing someone and fuck in the
middle. He would have 100%.
I was getting a bit worried that the guy was going to get
through. Don't go out like a load of
boxers a mad day and start giving shit in your dressing
gun, yeah? Yeah, I know.
There's no need for it. There was no, I think that I
remember I'm saying like, so the peers actually quite a bit.
There's maybe 20 or 30 yards. So we're a good bit away from
the yeah. And he was talking about the
noise. I think the waves were making
more noise than us. Just just one of the ACT mad I
think showing off in front of his way to get in the good
books. But that's a yappy move to go
out to 10 loud. Just they don't give a fuck.
Yeah. Just put because most normal
people would would say that and go.
Even if you were being noisy, you go.
Not going to 10 fellas. Yeah.
You know, in, in, in, in the middle of the morning to tell
them to keep a noise down. Yeah.
But that's. Yeah, That's a Hollywood
attitude. No, I will.
I will go to them. Yeah.
And he never came back. Outside.
No, he never came back. We went down a few times after
that and he was. There was no sign of him.
And probably his own fault for Megan.
Yeah, kind of scene that he did. But yeah, every time we went
down after it, we weren't so quiet.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think, do you want to remote again?
Yeah. Bits and pieces.
He wanted him out, but he never came back out.
Have you kept that up? I haven't done it in a while.
There's some boys still doing it.
There were so went from about 12 people to nearly two or three
now. But we've moved.
We're not jumping into this, the toxic waste anymore.
We're down down at Brompton. Oh, but eh, like Helens Bay
direction, Yeah, it's bad, but that's much.
Better. It's lovely.
It's really nice. It's.
Better water. Did you find when you were doing
that? It was like after retiring from
boxing that, not that it was like being back in a training
company, but it was like getting up at the same time going with a
lot of guys. Really enjoyed it, genuinely,
really enjoyed it. It was actually Stevie Ward who
suggested it to me and then he never went once with us.
And then I started going with a couple and then I just kind of
snowballed. There was loads of people in,
but I enjoyed doing it. It's too cold now.
Yeah, it's too cold to do it. I because I didn't buy into it
and then me and my mate Tony went to do it and I think it was
about October short of time, went into the sea and I was
painful. We're standing the water for
about 10 minutes with painful. I was going to get out.
This is after about two minutes I was like it's too sore, I'm
getting out. And I said just stick with it
once it started moving about. Yeah, you're.
Right at this point where it's freezing, I said it was dark,
but I started to feel like warm. Yeah, not just like, all right.
I felt warm and it was nice. Do you piss yourself?
Yeah, before I went down to the beach and then and then it was
moving about. It was lovely.
No, I think it's the first kind of minute and a half.
Two minutes is actually pretty difficult.
But once you're in there, you, I feel like you could stay in for
half an hour. Yeah, if you want to.
Have you taken any other up any other hobbies or interests since
boxing? Anything or the ordinary.
No. Pottery anyone?
Got nothing. No pottery.
No, not nothing else. Do you, do you feel like are you
happy enough in retirement or do you think you need some some of
the replace? No, I, I was, I, I like doing
not a lot right and just chilling out.
Is that common or do you think most boxers like was such a
routine? Don't know, need something that
I think. I don't know, there's guys that
love fighting, like genuinely just love to fight and love to
be. I wasn't one of them people and
I was looking out. I was looking out of boxing for
the last couple of years to be honest.
I probably stayed in a bit longer than I should have, but I
was I was looking forward to with her and just just chilling
out, like really. And people say like, that's
dangerous though, isn't it? If if, if you're almost, if
you're looking out, or if you're already have one.
Yeah, well, so it wasn't like I I always get full effort and
training camps in preparation for Fates, but in my head.
Good. And that Jamel Herring fate,
that was like after the Warrington fighter was thinking
about retiring and I thought, look, I'll stay in MTK and top
ranked. Top ranked approached me and
after the Warrington fight gave me this unbelievable deal, MTK
and top ranked together with Frank Warren says he'd get me a
world title shot at Super Featherweed.
So I said to myself, I'll stay in and have a crack and
hopefully I wanted to become a three-week world champion and it
just just didn't happen. The Do you think it made a
difference because those that that heroin fight was behind
closed doors that made it, Would that have made any difference?
He was in the same atmosphere, wasn't he?
So. But some people like some boxers
you. Know it's a bit of an excuse.
So isn't it when you hear people talking about the atmosphere?
That's why I lost but I I don't I don't see it like that.
It's it's, it is definitely better to box in a in a raucous
atmosphere. When it's quiet, it's it's just
grim. I've done stand, virtual, stand
up and that's a bit different than that.
No one's trying to knock the fuck out of me, but it is
totally some people I know like enjoy it.
You know, like stream gigs where you're just doing it to the
camera. Yeah, I, I you can't gauge your
reaction of. You can't.
But what will happen is if you do it on Zoom every once in a
while, it'll cut the people watching it and you'll it always
go to their own person. It's always some guy who's
focused on, some say, a corporate thing for a business.
Some people are like, you know, watching the screen, laughing a
bit. For me, it always cuts to some
fella who's like, he's texting and he doesn't know the screens
on him or he's muted it and he's just like, you know, playing.
You can see he's got a controller and he's playing
Warzone or something like that. You can't gauge it at all.
Yeah. That's that's great, isn't?
It did you, did you have a plan like once you retired, did you
have a plan for what you want to do or you just very much like
see what happens? Well, so I was doing, I was
already doing bits and pieces of punditry towards the end of my
career, so I was hopeful that I was going to step into that and
do it a little bit more often. But I was offered a contract for
from BT Sport for two years, which I'm currently in the
middle of. I'm really enjoying it.
You're really You're really good at punditry.
I like it. I genuinely like it.
And I think it's easy because I just say what I see.
Yeah, that's that's how easy it is.
And I annoy some people sometimes.
And I'm not trying to be like a Roy Keane or anything like that,
like a bit of a deluded version of Roy Keane.
I like to be honest. Yeah, Roy Keane likes to tram
Wayne people up and annoy them. Yeah.
But I just, I just try to be honest.
Yeah, did you have to like with with punditry is there are you
ever watching a fight or or out of out of venue go?
I love to be in there. Or you delighted that you're
not. No, I'm delighted that I'm not.
I'm not. I never think of it really like
that. But I've never, I'd never go to
a big event and think I'd love to be fighting.
I'm just happy to be still involved with boxing without
having to do any any of the hard work really.
What? What do you miss about?
The gym, the boys at camaraderie in the gym, the boys in the gym
in Manchester, right like it was great crack.
It was loads of characters, all similar personalities.
All will see him kind of dreamed and aspirations and pushed each
other and training hard. But I thought gym at the end of
my career was unbelievable. Yeah, I always like, I always
think if I was to go pro with boxing and guy, I don't think
I'd like to do the gym stuff. I got to just do the fights.
Just fight. I don't think I'd have the count
because I look at that as an advantage.
I'd see my opponent go as far as come off the back of, what, 223
month count? Yeah, he's knocked his pawn in
every day. He's probably sleep deprived.
He's been away from home. I'd be at home the whole time,
home cooked meals, not training, sitting in plenty of sleep and
then I think by the time the fight come around I'd just be
really rested and ready for like.
A dog ready to be let off the leash.
Yeah, that there. Do you know what?
There's a. There's a week I should go for
it, yeah. Why not?
Yeah, there's, you know what? There wouldn't be.
Literally. That's the thing with
professional boxing. You don't have to be that good
to be professional. Look at Potty Barnes.
I'm only joking, but I mean, I mean, there's there's guys who
who aren't very good. The journeyman, the column.
There's some journeyman who are actually quite good.
Yeah. And I know the way around the
ring. But to be a professional
football, you have to be good, don't you?
Yeah, yeah. Boxer Freddie Flintoff was a
professional boxer, for one. Fight.
Yeah, because you see those guys and you know, yeah, like
Journeyman, you see some fella who's had 81 fights and he's
lost them all. That must be a Do you think
that, do you think they think of it as it's actually a really
good life from it? I'm already good at boxing, but
I'm getting paid. No, I think, I think that some
of them go into it the wrong. So someone kind of turn in the
journeyman when they don't want to.
So they have a career and I get a few wins at the start and then
a few losses. Someone says to him, why don't
you just go on the road and become a journeyman?
You'll get a grand of faith. You'll fight every week and and
they've got an ore job as well. They don't really tree and they
just turn up the four rounders, possibly A6 rounder.
I'm going to be a journeyman. Yeah, it have to be.
Yeah, you can do it. See, I, I like you say, like,
you know, you don't have to be that good, but I, I would just
do it all different. Some of them are better, some of
the journeymen are better than like these prospects.
Everybody gets involved in boxing, the hobbies, big dreams.
I'm going to be a world champion when realistically there's
probably not a lot of chance that that's going to happen.
But journeymen, the art of being a good journeyman is not getting
knocked out because if you get knocked out, you can't you're
suspended for a month, 28 days, right, Right.
You can't box next week. So the cover up and they don't
get hit that clean and they don't try to win.
Yeah, but they just they know their way around the ring not to
get that's a good. Chance I got guy who party dead
fight. Remember in the Titanic
exhibition centre the guy who just got him in a farm?
So was he just rock doing things like that just so he wouldn't
potentially get punched? Yeah, I think so.
I don't know what happened with the left.
That was funny. That was Party's debut, I think.
Yeah. Because it was there was such a
big build up. Yeah.
And then in the I remember just one of those ones.
I went to bed and then woke up and was reading about the fight
and party was like, oh, raging, you know, so annoyed.
And I was like, he must have lost and say no, he didn't lose.
But the fella like was running about the ring and then got
party in a fireman's left and ran about with him his region as
you would be. Yeah, you would be a sick smart
isn't it Like pretty serious boxing like but everything potty
does turns into a joke. But he said the guy after the
fight just like left with his gear on.
I didn't get a Shard, didn't like just like went and straight
out. I don't know if that get anger
goes Bulgarian. I think he's just in Belfast
still somewhere. Just not going to bite in a
pair. Everlast shorts.
Get they get a lot of them in the foreign journeyman not don't
want to send races, but the foreign journeyman aren't as
good as the British journeyman, right?
You're not got a foreigner easier than a British
journeyman, right? Why is it?
I don't know because they don't. I don't know.
Maybe more they. Try to win the foreigners that
try to throw back and stuff, right, Right.
And they're not very good. Yeah.
The kind of British and Irish journeyman will just cover up
and they know they're not going to win, so they'll just try not
to get knocked out. It's really hard to knock
someone out who's been really negative, right?
Like if you're just not trying to win a fight, it's actually
harder to knock someone like that out than someone who's
winging out to. Him I I think I would just try
technique wise to really change it because like say, say, say I
was going to fight a lot of it like I don't want to Chris ice
boxers. A lot of it is, you know, jab,
jab, you know who, what about jab, jab, jab, jab, jab, hook,
something like that. Like like a different
combinations 123, There's loads. I'd be 1212121, you know.
Yeah, I would. I think I'll just do that a
little bit different. Yeah.
And I'd offer him a chin out a lot.
Want see some people do it, put their chin out as a like yeah,
try and hit the chin. Yeah, and then don't hit it.
Yeah, and then you can counter. Yep.
But A 121212, Yep, it's actually just called six shots.
So it's you don't say 121212. No, I say.
Someone on the pod says sex. You throw 123456 you don't count
in twos. Just a gem.
I came up in with it, we did. I came up in Freddie Roach, so
we would he would have, he would have said, but that's just
Freddy roots like he would have told us.
That there is some trainers in furnace and it baffles me.
I don't I don't understand what they're saying.
But the numbers for job would be 1A right hand would be two, a
left two could be 3A, right two could be 4.
So they're like 234, but their fighter understands what what
they're doing. Is is there a genuine question?
Is there bad trainers? There's more like high level.
More bad trainers and good trainers.
There's yeah, I'd say there's a handful of good trainers in the
UK. There's a lot of guys who,
again, this is boxing. You know, we, any dickhead can
literally become a trainer these days.
You go and do a course for a couple of hours and yeah, you're
a professional boxing trainer. Yeah, and you don't need to have
a background in. Nah, not really.
Boxing. Not really.
Like as a fighter. Yeah, there's a lot of like PTS
involved now. And PTS are like boxing coaches,
yeah, I'd say there's a handful of good trainers.
And in the UK there's no like, there's no like teachers
anymore. People with wisdom and you know,
Gus, Gus Tomato and and and Dundee and Freddie Roach even.
And there's no one teaching. They're all just good pod men.
They look good, looks nice to be able to catch a pods.
There's plenty of them about. But.
What well has there been, I asked this question, a party and
Sean, has there been anything during a fight that's like ever
caught your eye or distracted you?
Anything that's gone on, whether it was in the ring or in the
arena outside the ring, that's like broke your adrenaline for a
second. No.
Any famous face in the audience where you've caught them gone?
Jay Lewis. Was that one of my face day,
Lewis? Then they lose.
Yeah, Nelson all. Yeah, one of my early fights
class, he came up from Angie's house in Waxford or Waterford or
somewhere, and he came up on his Harley on his own right.
Then the Europa went to a crime bar on his own and his Leathers.
Yeah, cool dude. Oh I always the coolest.
And then what's the fight did? You know, did you find it after?
No, I knew he was coming but I got a photograph with him and in
the Europa and I don't know where to come find it again.
Shit raging about that. That's very cool.
Yeah, he's a nice guy, really nice guy, and he knows boxing as
well. Yeah, that.
I mean I was more thinking like local select like.
Jimmy Nesbitt. He's been there.
Nesbitt's going to the podcast. Yes, that'll be that'll be a
good moment. That would be good.
I'll look forward to. That yeah, that'll be, I can get
very distracted by seeing certain people out of gig, but
like the slightest thing is someone I used to go to school
with and then I'm doing the gig, but in my head I'm going.
I wonder what he does know as a job.
Before the Warrington fight. That's not during the fable
before it. And the crowd was refused faces
at that one. But Steve McManaman, you were.
Yeah, I was one of them. I didn't want to put you off.
I worked. Steve McManaman was there,
right? And I remember thinking there's
fucking Steve McManaman. Haven't seen how many ages he
hadn't been on TV in a while or anything.
What are you up to? Yeah.
Didn't put me off, but I just, I had a nice feeling about Steve
being there. Imagine that was something you
needed for every fight going forward.
Steve Mcmanaman's got to be there.
Yeah, he's a big boxing fan, apparently.
I met him after after it doing something for BT and nice guy.
Did you ever have like to like maybe near the start of your
career when it would have been like a bigger deal probably for
you? Imagine you used to.
Was there ever anyone like the Daniel Day Lewis thing?
Was there anyone who ever like reached out even on Twitter or
anything like that just to say they were a big fan or I can't?
Really remember? I don't know.
Probably not, because you would remember something like that
with. Or a big Twitter follower or
anything like that. Big Twitter follower No Roberto
Duran follows Patty Barnes's wife, but not Patty Barnes or
me. I like those.
Annoys me a bit. Yeah that's good, but a few
decent followers as opposed on Twitter.
It's always nice when you get a good follower.
Oh why? Sometimes you get the blue tech
guy and you don't know who they are.
You have a fucking. Blue yeah, you follow 250,000
people followed by 250,000 people.
Guys like join my mentorship programme.
Yeah. And you're like, you know, no,
absolutely not. Yeah, there's weird accounts
like that. But I think definitely there was
AI. Remember when I started like
putting stuff on like comedy online?
You will get a follower where you will will you probably back
in the day, follow me would have been like a.
Big day like. You definitely would have No,
no, no, no, only joking. You would, but you would like
you follow me. I would that would.
That's a group chat screenshot like.
Oh yeah, yeah, 100%. I've got I've got a few of them.
You got a few you would put in the group chat like I've got the
big Flintoff follows me. He's a big name.
Yeah. Fifi Ballers, Harry Redknapp a
while. Harry Redknapp text me before
the Jamal Herring fight and Graham Souness.
Right. So I have their numbers.
Yeah, that's a big day lap. Better than having a follow
having someone's phone number. Having their number, yeah.
Jimmy Dornan's number. I've got him.
Yeah, probably got that tell you a story about Jimmy Dornan.
So that house that you were talking about at the start with
the pheasants? Yeah, in Bonebridge, I I bumped
into him and I just moved, all right.
And I bumped into him in London when I was training.
He was just walking down the King's Road and a nice summer's
day. Everybody's leaving them alone.
I asked them, I stopped, was talking to each other and I
said. Like how many years ago 10?
7 right. So I stopped, stopped them in
the street. We're having a good chat.
No one came near him for a good 10 or 15 minutes.
And I said, do you not get, do you not get loads of like grief
being in line? He said, no, London's OK.
But when I go back home to Belfast, it's definitely a story
like so he gets a lot more attention when he's in Belfast.
And I said tonight, bear in mind I just moved the bone bridge
this time. But I'd said to him, Belfast is
alright for me. I feel like everybody knows me.
But when I'm in the wee times like Bone Bridge and all, you
know, I do get hassled. And he says to me what would you
be doing this shit hole like Bone Bridge?
And I just agreed. Now I don't know fucking Bone
Bridge not come back. But I just bought a house Sir
like 2 months before so. You would have got real
defensive. I've pheasants and also sorry
shit. Hole.
If I've got 20 pheasants, I agree that it was a shit hole
when I it's not a shit hole. Yeah, it's a nice place.
I would. I would 100% be with you.
I would have just agreed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I was, I remember I was, I was wounded just.
He just after this goes at the town council are going to take
back on advertising club. We're going to do with them as
well. No, that was, that was actually
good. But I'll give you this for
Bumbridge, very good cafe in it as you drive in.
I don't know what end I'm thinking here.
It's on the right. It's got 2 levels to it and it's
a cafe, coffee shop kind of thing.
Had a few really good lunches in there.
Really. I'm trying to think what end?
Is it facing facing fishing? Is it facing the downshare?
The white hotel bar restaurant. It's that end.
Yeah, that sort of cafe across the road, it's on the corner.
Yeah, on the, I know the cafe you're talking about, but not
once or twice, but the down share across the road from it.
Yeah, on Real. What about the Boulevard type
play? See to me.
Not in that. We're not ready for that here.
We're not ready for that experience.
We're like our our shops like bang in the town and walking
about. We don't want to.
It's a very American thing. Go to the mall.
Yeah. No one has time to do that.
Like we're just trying not to. I always get people when even at
my face. They all used to come over when
I fought in America and the the big thing they wanted to do was
go to the outlets. Yeah, yeah, you'll love an
outlet. Yeah.
I just didn't want. I'm not in that sort of shit.
I went to, I went to, I went to one of your fights in Vegas and
it was such a good experience. It was like, it was brilliant.
Yeah, it was a brilliant time because every you bump into so
many people from home in the day before the fight.
Yeah, on the day, like everyone's wearing Northern
Ireland pops. See when the see when I was
vivid memory of when all the Northern Ireland fans started
arriving in for the fight against Santa Cruz in Vegas.
And it was there was a few 1000 they'd all have their Northern
Ireland tops on. And I have this vivid memory of
a wee fat ginger man. Don't know who he was, mid 40s
early 50s, maybe 5 foot 4. Similar height to me walking
through The MGM lobby with two 6 foot plus black hookers on his
arms. I just thought you are living
the. Dream you never know.
They might, they might not. I mean, they might have just
been into him. Maybe, maybe they might have
just had a thing for we we fellas from here.
That was that was I remember what walking through The MGM
lobby on the way to the fight and it was like a football
match. Everyone's walking together and
and I remember a woman. I did stand up, but there's a
woman like I know we all want playing the slots turn around to
a fella in earshot of where I was and said why are you guys
all wearing the soccer tops? And like a guy, Jay was really
gentle one because we're going to the football boxing.
I just was I thought he's going to smack her.
She's just not there like this. But it was brilliant.
I that day. It was my mate's birthday.
We start drink. I'm not a big drinker.
We start drinking really early, like with breakfast and go out
and we're on our way to the fight And we're then we're we're
had the shirt on, you know, dressed up.
We've had for it. And we're on our way to the
fight. And Ruth Gorman was doing
interviews for UTV and we're on our way to midday Blitz.
And she goes, ah, she was you and your mate do an interview
for this. And we went yeah, yeah.
And it was about, you know, you in the fight then that sort of.
And she would basically all she was like the noise.
Do you think he's going to do it?
And we were standing on, you know, the way in Vegas there,
there's bridges all over there, so you can go from one side to
the other. It was on a bridge and it was
40°. And we were standing there and I
had the lane against something because I could.
I was just trying to keep my balance.
And she said, well, he's looking forward to the fight.
And for some reason I just got like a wee bit emotional about
home and I went, you know, I said, look, I think car is
brilliant for home because he brings both sides together.
And I once I started going on that thing, I just got like real
deep into it. And at one point I remember my
mate John took over talking and I remember looking at him but
thinking I was watching him on TV and then going, no, I'm here.
And you can see all this happened.
So they put the footage out and then UTV sent they sent me the
thing and and thank God all but didn't go out because of my face
it was so bad. To see it, I could have walked
with the fight. I never I was meant to.
So it's I stay at The MGM, right.
And the fight was in The MGM, but you can't just walk through
it. Yeah, you're meant to get oh
shit. You're meant to get picked up.
You're meant to get picked up at an like an entrance or an exit
and drove around the corner for your grand arrival to the fight.
So I'm standing there with Christine and Jake McGuigan.
There's no car comes to pick me up.
I had to run across, I think it was it was 4 lanes of traffic
each way, 8 lanes of traffic. My backpack on did before I
fought Santa Cruz. They could have been minced
before I got there. I remember just thinking what a
shit show. Like why, yeah, why?
They're not a car here to pick me up.
Not a big, you know, prima Don or anything, but.
Practically, you need it there you.
Need it to be. And then I get into the back end
where you're not meant to go and there's a lady saying what are
you doing here? Sitting over your walls and like
I'm here to fight and trying. You're in the wrong place.
Who are you and stuff and would see the fucking guy on your
lanyard. That's me.
Just please let me in. I don't want to.
I don't want to have to walk back or run back over that road.
He had to pull out of the fight. He's just on the freeway.
The amount of times I've had to explain the door staff of
venues, I am the guy. See all the everyone queued up,
they're they're, they're coming to see this show.
You know, London guys like I don't know you.
I'm like, I know you. I don't think you do know me,
but I'm here to do the show. Happened to me at the the
Warrington Fade as well. I didn't have a respond on and
we're in like a little cage taped area at the back of the
Manchester Arena and guy knew who it was.
He says if you got your response like no, you need to respond
again. And I said, don't see him like
the lanyard, man. That's me in your lanyard.
Yeah, I know. But you still need a response.
Like, well, do I need, do I need a response?
If, you know, it's me and I'm actually fighting tonight, just
let me fuck it in. And he ended up wazing up and
letting me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a job's worth, isn't it? Yeah, of course, part of me.
Part of me respects it a wee bit.
I don't. I hate them.
Yeah, OK. Absolutely hate them.
Speaking with Christine, your wife is definitely top five
people on Twitter. Unbelievable.
Yeah, she's very, very funny. So good.
Yeah, she's just funny. She's a really funny girl.
Because I remember that when I first saw on Twitter, it was
like, she would like, she would put people down.
Yeah. So anyone who was having a pop
at her or you, Yeah, you know, and you probably couldn't tweet
a lot then or you know, you're just you're in camps or you're
fighting and you don't want to get into an argument with some
fella from fucking Lauren, you know, or or England or wherever
it was. But she was just so good at
just, she was she's. Brilliant.
She's really good at. She doesn't do it as much now,
yeah. Which is done.
She's completely. Done it.
She's completely but she and that's I'm obviously on social
media, but I'm not on it as much because I don't want to be
involved in arguing with Dick heads, which happened quite
often. Yeah, but she was always
defending me. Not that it neither of the
family. You don't need your misses to
defend you. But I liked it too.
Yeah. Yeah.
You don't want you done it because she was always funny
with it. Yeah.
The, it seemed like towards the end of your fighting career that
you went through just like beyond bad luck, like in terms
of injuries and things that happened out of the blue.
And it seemed to me that it was like a, it felt like a year.
It probably wasn't, but it felt like a year where it was.
Opponent slips in the shore? Yeah, can't fight.
You're in a hotel lobby, wooden statue type thing.
Falls hit your hand. Not even it was like a, it was
hard. It was like a not concrete, but
something similar to concrete. This thing is pushed over and
smashed my fucking hand. That was a bad one.
And then you have the obviously the start of the legal dispute
with Barry McGuigan. When you were going through.
Do you look back on that and think that was it terrible at
the time or was it just one of those like, oh, don't laugh, but
it will cry? No, the hand one when, when,
when I got my hand broke when the thing, the ornament statue
called it an ornament at the start an ornament fell on me and
it broke my hand. People are, you know, I don't
break your hand, but it was a fucking pillar.
Like, yeah, yeah. So we're not will not happen.
That was really disappointed because I've been in Philly for
a month before, which is where the fight was taking place.
Yeah, it was a fucking nightmare.
The one where the kid fell in the shower was my last fight
with the Mcguiggins. And going into that fight, I I
had in my head, I was there was too much stuff that I was
unhappy with when I was leaving them after it's a win loser
draw, I was gone. I wanted to beat this guy and
pack it in. But even Mada, who would never
get involved and say much, was kind of glad that that fight
never happened because he just thought it wasn't in the right
frame of mind and he got to get beat by a guy who's was all
right, but not not brilliant. And then the court case stuff,
that was just inevitable really, that it was necessary.
But it was a shame. It had to happen, but it had to
happen. But I enjoy the whole core
process. It was fucking brilliant.
Why just get in the suit up? Every day or do news here every
day because obviously it was like media attention stuff so it
was on for quite a while so yeah it's like yeah, show off the
range of suits here yeah we'll give suitor brother a mansion
because he's helped me out with the suits.
Chris Suter and I've different suits and it got their point
where I'm not court so much I'm having to change the trousers
with a different jacket. Yeah, they give the illusion of
a different suit. Why was there a lot of people in
the comments of, you know, article news articles being
about opinion? Like he wore that before you
probably were. Thinking it, yeah, I think there
might have been one or two, but. But do you think that because
that was going on when you were still, you're still fighting?
Yeah, yeah. But do you think that had
negative effect? No, because no, didn't.
Because it was. I was.
I, I was, I can't say too much here.
You. Know, yeah, yeah.
Just say whatever you're comfortable with, yeah?
I think that I was just comfortable the whole way
through the case. I was just going in and being
honest, didn't have to tell any lies.
Being cross examined by their barrister.
Barrister McCollum. Was his name Liam McCollum big
like 6 foot four guy which is very aggressive.
Every time he asked me a question I'd answer it.
He just go you're a liar from then, Mr Frampton, you are lying
like, well, not was it Arnold Schwarzenegger?
That's a that's a great move from Barry.
Just hit the governor. So he would give me grief to say
I was lying all the time. So he said something in the
court, in the court case and I can't remember but he I didn't
know what he was told. He asked me a question.
I had no idea what he was talking about and he had got the
question wrong. So he apologised and I says
who's a liar? And I and the judge shouted at
me. That's there from done.
Show some respect. To wind up the Terminator.
I didn't and I didn't. So the judge showed up me and I
kept apologising. I really freaked out like sorry,
sorry, sorry, sorry. Send sorry Father Potty Barnes
words that I said no. I was saying sorry Judge Potty
Barnes swore. I said sorry father.
Sorry Father. But like calling to teach your
mom? But I didn't.
I didn't do. You think you'll ever you know,
being calm about it and looking back it then fears you because
you know, you're you're being honest.
But do you think you'll ever look back in the future?
Definitely on it and go actually that was of shame or you think
you'll just always feel. The same.
No, I just always feel the same. Yeah, it is.
It's a shame it happened. I feel like that, but it just.
It did. When it's going to be a good few
chapters in the book. It's coming out next year.
Oh yeah. So that'll be good.
And people think I can't really say too much about about the
court case and about the settlement and all that, but
anything that was said in court can't be brought up again.
How much? Everything that was said, no,
no, no, all right, right, right. Everything can be said.
And The thing is, people, it wasn't being reported properly
by the media. I don't think I remember big
things happening in court and thinking right, get back home,
watch the news and then they just not mention it.
Why do you think it? Is I don't know I'm the clue.
As in stuff you were like, well, great that that's going to be
out because people will know this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it wasn't mentioned.
So I'm going to mention then the book.
And people got a title for the book.
Well, no, no tale yet. We had to try to come up with an
idea. I had no idea.
No idea. You said something there meant
ago. If I had no luck.
What do you say? Something I said if you didn't
laugh, you'd cry. Didn't laugh or cry.
That could be a good title. It's.
Too long. Tigers baking.
Tiger King. Tiger King.
Yeah, that'd be good. Well, that's probably they've
trademarked up. Probably Tiger King.
Lion King has taken 2. Yeah.
Leopard King doesn't it? Doesn't You've no link to that
but. We'll come up with that, don't
worry. But the book I think is going to
be very good, written by a guy called Paul Gibson.
I know, Paul. Yeah, great guy.
And he don't even Mcgee's book won a William Hill Sports book a
year and stuff and he's very, very good.
Will you? Are you someone that you happy
for him to I might just say you say you're writing your own
book, right. You could be very on top of it
and go, I know I said that, but don't put that in or are you
very much? Like no, no, no, no.
I'm like, I'm like, so there's been a few things.
We talk. He lives in Spain, so do a lot
of it on phone. And there's been a few things
where he's gotten written names wrong or whatever.
So if they've all obviously had to be changed, but there's a few
stories that I'm like. 5050 on. You know, I because I think of a
didn't have kids, I'd be happy with them to go in.
But my wee girls, we are loves reading.
I she's 11. She's always reading books and I
imagine she'll want to read this book.
Yeah, I don't know if I want her to know that.
Yeah, I mean it's totally valid thing like, but but then you
know she then reads a 10 years after.
That tell me I saw the guy or a guy.
There's a story. It's good in the book and this
guy doesn't want his name mentioned in the book or
anywhere else but he. After I fought Santa Cruz in New
York, the day after we went to the bar, Ani Moore's and
everyone got steaming. And then I was getting, I was
really drunk, so my mates got me offside before I'd done
something stupid and went this hotel where a couple of my
friends were staying, the rooftop bar.
And I got more steaming and they put me to bed.
So the couple that were staying in this hotel, they were
boyfriend and girlfriend at the time, but on Brooklyn Bridge
that night he proposed to her. So fiance's now they're coming
back to the room to, you know, do what you do when you've just
proposed. Dear Mrs And there'd been a big
person, big guy, that's all I'll say about him, who could put the
bed beside me to kind of keep an eye on me because it was really
in a bad way. And he pissed the bed.
So he pissed all of my back and all on himself.
And so I just beaten Santa Cruz. So I thought like, this is a
great story. You know, they so they come back
in the fiance. They want to do the stuff in
their beds covered in this big. Why were you in their bed?
I was in their bed because we were in their hotel and they
just wanted, they wanted me. I was just falling around and
stuff. So they were like, great, he
needs to go to bed, right? Right.
Put me in the bed and the big laughs.
Are they well known? No, right.
He's he's well enough known, right?
This guy. Does he do the same sort of
thing you? No, he's, I don't want.
I'd say yes. I'll give a wee hint, but
without giving that away, is does better known than him.
Brooklyn Beckham, Brooklyn Bridge, I see what you did.
But anyway, so he he's pissed himself and he's realised this
because he got out and then he hung his shorts over the fucking
the Shard or right. And yeah, he's pissed all over
me, right. And I thought that's a great
story for the book. Yeah, I don't think there's
anything bad in it. But he he worries that because
his dad is well known, my dad will be brought into this and.
I. I think he's, I think he's
really worried that his wife is going to find out that he pissed
the bed beside me. We all pissed the bed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or dead, like not for ages.
But like I didn't talk about 9:00, that's a different story.
But. Yeah.
I think that's. Fine like a do you do you wet
the bed lit like no way kids stop my kids no, but my my kids
stopped at. Whatever, 3 or 4, the better.
Better people, better than me. Yeah, no, I, I don't think I was
9, but I think there was a few incidents where I was like, no,
it's sweat. Will you ever see, you know,
Forrest Gump, where he meets the kid for the first time and he
asked Johnny's like, is he? Is he smarter?
Is he like me? Yeah.
I had this feeling like my kids were going to be what?
The birds like me. Yeah, no, I think, I think I did
it like a wee bit, a wee bit too late.
But then I sorted it like I think I was.
Here's how I knew it was too old.
I was watching the Hollywood Hollyoaks omnibus on a Sunday.
That's how you know it's a problem.
Yeah. You know, Yeah.
But yeah, my son's still doing it, but he's won the half.
I had an incident and I'm fucking tell him piss stories
that there's not a piss stories good.
I'm not going to tell you, but I was a bad word.
I I was a bad. Man, why are you not going to
tell me? Just because I want people to
read it in the in the book. Want to give a ring away here?
Close the pissy stories. What's a modest fan interaction
you've ever had? Anything freak joke.
There's a there's a guy I met at every guy I met at he was doing
security and Argos at Spruce Field.
What's funny about that? That's not the funny.
I thought you're going to say like at The MGM or something,
like, you know, in New York I do private security.
Who do you do that for? Anyone who comes to Norgos.
So, well, this guy was doing security at Argos, English guy,
and he's speaking to me. And this was only a few years
ago. Yeah, in Argos for this
conversation. I was walking past to go to
Sainsbury's so nothing wrong with Argos.
So go to Argos like. No, I'm not him that's in there.
Is there an Argos in Hollywood? No.
There's one Hollywood exchange, but that's technically in the
horrid. OK, well, so I met this guy,
English guy, and he says I come over to see your fate on a on a
weekend Pico Martinez fight and down to the Titanic for the
world title big box and fun and stuff.
And I'm still here. What do you mean you're still
here? It was like 3 years after the
fight and well, you know, I met a bird and got her up the spout
and I am a daddy the nor Irish kid and he was like a Geordie or
something. So that was that was a mod
story. I was a good story.
I like that story. Yeah.
So he he got the leg over on a one night stand and nice here
forever. Stop.
And now he's just stopping people stealing those sweet
pants. Yeah.
What about like do you need? Security and Argos for because.
The catalogues. What are you stealing?
Nothing's out in the shop. Catalogues, bonfire filler, you
know. Yeah, I don't really know.
The catalogues are attached to the thing because everyone kept
nicking them. But yeah, the pans and stuff
like that. Yeah, Argos is that isn't going
to get robbed. Like, I don't think he was doing
security at Argos. I think he was just standing
outside it, maybe. All right, now I work here.
No one, you know, they don't. But like if I imagine you're
quite not intense fan interaction, but you know,
boxing is that thing where like if you follow a football, if
you're a passionate fan of the football team, you're following
a club, A-Team and a load of players.
It's quite a broad thing. Whereas if someone is a massive
fan of you as an individual, it's way more like focused.
So, you know, I can imagine like a lot of people like we when
you're flying home from Vegas. I was on the same flight and I
was shooting like a wee video for BBC that day and.
You'd remember the guy sitting beside me.
Is that what you're going to talk about?
No, I'll go and tell your story. Well, I was going to say, I saw
so many people come up to you. I I I was filming this thing
from BBC. I'd already shot up, but I was
thinking, well, flip, if you're I know you haven't won the
fight. So then they're part of me being
like, even if you'd want, do you really want to fuck be bald?
But do how many times can you say can you be interviewed
after? So I was like, Nah, I won't.
I'll just keep my distance. And I saw about 50 people come
up the handshake near hugging you people.
You definitely didn't know, you know, Carl and on it's it's it's
in people are so passionate about you.
So I just remember seeing that and being like, that's probably
a good time to just not. Yeah, now there was, there was
plenty of interactions they got and people.
People were good to me though, and they supported me.
So yeah, it's never going to be a decade.
But it never even like after the the day after the fight, we all
went to the bar, you know, where you were buying everybody a pint
and and having like a thank you all for coming sort of thing.
And I don't think that atmosphere in a way would have
been much different if if you have.
One good atmosphere, wasn't it? Because.
There was no like there was literally nobody going Foxy.
I come over to Vegas and he didn't win the fight it.
Was, I know. We've come over to support him
and it didn't go his way, but we've had a great time and we'll
be at the next fight. You know, I think that that's
quite rare. Yeah, I'm saying all boxers.
Would not get that. I was really well supported.
That's probably my one of my biggest achievements is the
support and the farm base. Like they're really vocal and
really loyal and used to. I think there was in New York
was where 2000 went to New York for the first Santa Cruz fight.
I think the guest around four or five for Vegas.
Yeah. It's just it's a lot of people
that comes in January as well as a lot of people.
That would be a lot of if someone said you'd start a
fight, that's a lot of people come to come to a local fight.
If 5000 people are going to come and see you in Belfast, that's a
lot it. Was mental.
And was Windsor everything that you hoped it would be?
Yeah, but I, I wanted to fight there and people misquoted to
say that that was a boy who dreamed the fighter.
I wasn't because I just didn't think it would ever.
There's no chance of me fighting a Windsor Park until I started
to get the fanbase and fill out the Odyssey and then the big
crowds going to Vegas and everywhere else.
And then it became a bit of a goal and ambition of mine.
But the only, the only thing that I would have liked for
Windsor is to have been a real title.
It was a WBO interim title. Yeah, people call them world
titles, but it's not a world title.
So I'm not going to say I'm a world champion for beating Luke
Jackson. WBO interim fucking title belt.
It's just a governing body look on a sanctioning fee, really,
that's what it is. But if it had, if it had been a
proper world title, that would that would have been the ice on
the cake. Do you take events in like the
scale of it at the time or do you do it on a bit of delay?
What I mean is if I'd sometimes if I do a show like doing the
SSE for the first time on the night when I come off stage I'm
just because as a cucumber and just want to have a cup of tea
or a drink and then and go home watch much a day.
And then about 3 days later I always go fuck yeah.
I was unreal. Yeah, no, I do.
I think it's yeah. Afterwards you reflect a bit
more and I always, what I always do is well, I used to go on the
YouTube and look for fans, views of in the crowd, the singing and
stuff I always loved. We'd love that YouTube and
Twitter and. Social media?
Suppose it's like seeing Instagram stories.
Yeah. Yeah, just a sing song.
I I I love that. Because your fans are, it's like
it's this, football fans get a bad rap.
But every sport, I'm sure there's fans that, you know, go
too far and stuff like that. But in terms of atmosphere and
passion, football matches are of nothing's comparable.
Yeah, but people bring that to your fight.
So I remember. And that's not the cruise fight.
Like neutrals and Santa Cruz fans looking around and.
Yeah, what is, you know, they're they're still cheering him.
But when he does something good, they're cheering him.
Yeah. And the rest, they're just
sitting watching the fight. Yeah.
Whereas boys are just. That I think, you know, because
I was such a big Northern Ireland supporter and I think if
you're not an Iron Football fan, most of them supported me
anyway. I'm not saying they all went to
Vegas and stuff, but a lot of them did.
So I was always confident. Windsor, even though it was
against Luke Jackson, who's not a household name, that I could
fill it because I had in my head, well, if you come to the
Northern Ireland matches, the stadiums filled all the time,
you'll want to take it this as well, I think, plus the boxing
fans, plus people who wouldn't go to Northern Ireland matches,
you know, I'd have support from both sides of the community and
stuff. And that was, I always was
confident that we could do well at Windsor Park, even though
there wasn't, it wasn't the the big name the dance with.
Oh, football fans, definitely our fans.
Because I remember playing against the football team from
maybe Roth cool direction when I was playing for Hollywood and we
were, you know, in the changing room just about to head out and
you were fighting that night. It was before Vegas, before New
York. It was it might have been might
have been Odyssey or what. Maybe it was one of the first
ones away. But anyway, we're leaving
children and before you leave a children for a football match,
few people let's go here and you know, everyone applaud quickly
and then you walk out and we walk past their dressing room as
they were doing that and they they did that and then some
fellow went Mona Jackal and they all went nuts.
And it's like that's only that's a different sport.
He's fighting at ours, but they and they they beat us.
So like you spurred them on their win against very good
television once he. Still play football?
Like who do you play for? Don't draw me and I'd admit.
I imagine you'd be a target, like trying to get people trying
to kick you. Know no, not not as much as you
think. Definitely like good bit of
banter, but no one no, no, no one's done that.
Obviously like on the sideline you'll get a wee bit of a wee
bit of shit here and there, but it's 19% like what good nature.
Gentile, you're not even funny. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
Like, well, well, not that's we personal, but but more like more
like Keith Cruz type quotes and stuff like that.
And where's Bunter? Always get that I and my stock
reply to that and the fucking love it.
It's not it's not even that good.
I go, where's Bunter? I go.
He's coming on the second-half here.
That's enough to keep 5 minutes, but I could get it sometimes.
But nineteen people are are signed.
I was asked to play for carried off 4th team right?
Who are actually all right. So they're, they're over over 30
/ 35 really. That's what I'll be doing that
next season. So I think they're fourth team.
There were 35 guys with a few acts, Irish League players and
all that. They rack and they could beat
carried off second team, right? We're all a bit younger, so
that's to play famous, but I just feel like people try and
kick me. I don't think it would.
I think they would. Well, I played, I played a
charity game against like an under 18 team and everyone and
kicked the fuck out of me. Yeah, and I thought I had a
broken right foot and my toenail fell off my left foot.
Yeah, after one, one game. Yeah, I don't know why I love it
and we'll keep. I always thought like I'll wrap
it up next year, want to take, you know, make sure I don't get
injured for comedy and stuff like that.
But now I ever wanted to just play as long as possible.
Yeah. And it's brilliant.
Like it is such. I love.
It was charity game we played and I played loads of those.
I will always play in those and over 30 fives is good.
But you know when you play with those like Irish League Legends
and excellent internationals, it's that's when that's the only
time I get starstruck. Yeah, we're playing Jim
Mcgilton's on the pitch or Gillespie.
I proper get like. Don't do much wrong, but they
just. Don't need to.
I don't need to. I play with Sammy McElroy, who's
well in the 60s and it was at Windsor.
Jim McDonald was our big, Charlie Lawson was our manager
and and who else is playing? Paul Lehman?
Good few others. Why was I not invited this game?
It was for Belfast Live years ago, I'm talking seven years ago
and Sammy Macro is black score to hat trick.
But Sammy Macro is playing and he just stood on the centre
circle and didn't move. Then a 2 yard radius and the
ball always came to him and he just got it and passed it off,
got it and put you. Couldn't get me that game.
At CV we play the Magilton play Jim Magilton.
Gillespie I'm not Irish. Just yeah, Gemma Gilton sent me
up sure. For for my goal, I.
Was going to bring a goal up use of all see Nicole one their goal
was a good goal what. I was just wrong the.
People were Raven, you know I fucking can play because I see
not. Overall game was.
I think I. Really held it up.
I thought David Jeffrey was going to sign me for Ballamine
after, No joke, I was hanging. About, you know, you know what I
thought? I thought you were a bit greedy.
That's what I thought. You're a bit of a grief, but you
never get that in your plan. So release the ball.
I think the first half everything was falling my way.
I was hanging on to it a wee bit.
But I in the second-half I started to pass it off more.
It's actually a released, you actually up a line for a nice 1.
So it's hard sometimes when I'm, you know, when I was feeling
confident DJ's managing them. I may, I could say an Irish
League here. So I was probably trying to do a
wee bit too much but I remember the action internationals
obviously. I was standing to say Barry
Johnston in midfield, you were upfront and I split the defence
with an umm. You came kind of running in from
the wing, split the defence. What a Barry Johnston went oh
what a ball, what a pass and you at a Tate angle instead of
scoring it hit a shot keeper. See if the I remember just
thinking greedy boss or should have fucking squirted the
someone, Barry Johnson says to me.
Yeah, that path deserved more. Well, fuck Barry.
All right, I'll do I'll do midfield the next time we're
playing. I'll make sure I pass it to the
more people, but I think overall great game upfront held it up
well. I'd actually been playing the
day before as well, so legs were probably a wee bit tired.
But you know, after the match David Jeffrey said at Sugar's
hand. They said well, I'll do and I
said you, we, how's the squad looking?
A Ballymena. He goes ah good, good.
And he goes need anyone. He's like no, not really, but I
still think I do a job. Irish League probably play for
David Jeffrey. Irish League, you're a good
player, I reckon, you know. I'm not a lot.
I think it did. Maybe you could get under like a
an institute type team. That's for a lot.
Of institution type thing. Maybe it's a lot call.
No, no, I would. Don't get me wrong, if that
happened, I'll be like a make a wish thing like I would fucking
love it. But no, the barely get in the
team play for yoga. Nah, well, here and there I've
been the first semifinal recently.
I've been away for five weeks, but I was like, but umm, and you
should play for kind of force. Yeah, I might.
I might start. We'll give it a go.
The only thing is just hard. I'm genuinely really busy and
yeah and stuff. So if they need me for a week, I
might. I might do it but and.
Anything else like just to wrap up, is there any, like is there
anything you're looking at go on actually like to give this a go
or or get into that? Are you happy?
Just to I've always, I've wanted to do, and we'll talk about
potty a few times next week on the MMA train.
I've always wanted to like do some sort of wrestling, not like
WWE, like judo or something like train.
Like I'd always feel like that's a big, you know, you have to be
a strong fucker and you'll get really strong.
I'll bring it down to the Dojo. Sometime if you want, why not?
The North The Hollywood Dojo here.
Yeah. Is there one down there?
Sure that fell you saw that wasn't a house code he was
wearing. I was a gay.
I'd like to do, I'd like to train and get fed to do
something like that. Not that fate or compete or
anything, but I like, I like the thought.
It's a different skill set too, isn't it?
Really different, yeah, yeah. But I feel like I've got the
right stature to be decent that judo if I wanted to be.
I went to 1 Upper Valley Leisure centre couple of years ago with
the mate judo I think it was. Judo knows jiu jitsu.
That's an R1 I'd like to try. And I was, you know, rolling
with them, they call it. And I was only beginner or
anything. And a couple of times I, I like
they did the move that they were talking about and rolled
someone. I was like, I'm really naturally
talented at this. And then I took a step back and
watched how they were doing it with each other and went, ah,
they're not doing that with me. You know what I mean?
They were all, they were like, oh, you got as a weapon.
And then I was like, ah, there's a lot.
There's a big difference when they're actually doing to each
other. Nah, it's, it's very technical,
isn't it? The jujitsu?
I'd like to do it. I'd like to do it.
Yeah, I remember. The jewel sort of a guy called
Walter McFarlane played for Crusader.
He's dead now but he was cruise captain when they played like
Liverpool in European Cup and he'd done judo like black belt
and I'd met him a couple of times but always heard the
stories that Walter McFarlane was like the hardest person I'd
ever played for the cruise even harder and Kirk Hunter.
Yeah. Which is hard to believe, but
that's what they say. And I always think Walter
McFarland on judo. Play football hard man, and I
could do a bit of judo one day. Yeah, well, look, we want to get
you and potty, whatever the discipline is, martial arts want
to set that fight up the barrel. And I was going to say if I
found him on, but then I was like, I don't know if you'd be
angry if I said that, then I couldn't look in there.
I want to set it. But but I think that'll be
that'll be a great charity. Yeah, I agree too.
And we've got a wee better, I suppose this is helping to
promote it a bit. And yeah, let's get the ball
rolled. Where do you want to have it?
Seaview. Nah.
Too big. We'll play charity much for it,
and I'll pass. Too, Yeah, too big.
You could do it like the Waterfront, The Odyssey is too
big, but I think we could do quite a number of tickets for
that. Do you also?
I haven't been there. I've never been to fight Neil.
Strong What a what a venue. For Daniels.
Yeah, also all. I get.
Cost a bit though, like in terms of rent and stuff, no.
I've given my business over the years.
Are we all right? Who will I fight?
The undercore. Blame game guys.
Oh, those? They're far too old.
Not. Tim.
I like Big Tim, really. Like Tim, though, I like Tim.
Tim's very funniest stand up is actually very.
I like Tim too, but I put. Him in a what I call the other
guy. Call Murphy.
Yeah, he's. Not very funny, is he?
I'm not concerned, I'm just concerned what his martial art
skills are. Like, but I think he's not that
well, he's probably 45. Don't know.
Something like that. So a few years on yet, but yeah,
someone like him. Yeah, we'll do that.
We good decent decent match up. Right, set it up card cheers
coming on podcast When when the book comes out, come back on and
we'll go through it and yeah, and we'll find out who will you
tell me after who that guy the pissed.
Yeah, in class, all right. Cheers everyone.
Thanks for coming on the podcast.