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Prime big deal days is coming 
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October 8th and 9th. 
Separate Welcome to this episode

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of the Tea with Me podcast. 
With me, she and Todd, it's a 

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guest episode today. 
My guest is Jerry Flynn. 

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Jerry, you may know from being 
an Irish League footballer, 

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manager, football personality or
like me, you might have been 

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aware of them before that, but 
then really none of them through

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lockdown. 
Whenever he was posting up a 

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daily video about just Irish 
League stories that he had from 

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his career, I was watching them 
every day like a lot of people 

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and just enjoying the insane 
characters and the stories that 

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he was telling. 
So Jerry, who's mainly based in 

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Spain, is over in Belfast for 
Christmas, came in the studio to

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the podcast and just delighted 
to have him to do it. 

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Also, we talked about the fact 
that I made a bet on the 

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podcast. 
It wasn't on the podcast, but it

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was around the time when the 
podcast started with Big Mike 

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and Dan that if we ever hit the 
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charts, I would take them to 
Spain to do an episode with 

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Jerry because we were like 
talking about the episodes of 

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Jerry's Irish League stories at 
the time. 

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And I said, listen, we'll go and
do one with him where he lives 

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if we get into that chart. 
Now I'm thinking that's never 

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going to happen as much as I, 
I'm confident in this podcast, 

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been a good podcast. 
The Apple chart. 

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No way, no way. 
That's like, you know, some sort

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of new local band from Northern 
Ireland being like if we ever 

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get on the hot Billboard 100 and
we have done the equivalent of 

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that. 
So we got to go, we got to go do

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that. 
So the next time we do a podcast

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with Jerry after this, it'll be 
on a pier in sunny Murthea. 

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And I've always said Murthea, 
but Jerry kept me right that 

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it's actually Murthea. 
So so it was a really enjoyable 

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episode. 
Jerry has some brilliant 

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stories. 
We do talk a good bit about 

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football, but I think you'll 
enjoy it even if you're not a 

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not a football fan. 
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this episode with Jerry Flynn 

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zippers. 
It's our first episode of 2021. 

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Let's enjoy it. 
Jerry, without knowing it, you 

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cost me a lot of money. 
We're talking hundreds of pounds

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because when you're which 
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about when the, you know, Irish 
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the start of lockdown and that 
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started the podcast. 
And I said to Mike and, and Dan 

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who produced the podcast, I 
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know, we should do an episode 
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And I said to them, if we, if we
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chart in the next year, I'll 
take yous over and we'll, we'll,

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we'll do an episode with Jerry 
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Now I'm thinking that's my money
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And then about two weeks later 
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Dornan and they were straight on
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So at some point I'd take two 

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people over to camera gear over 
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Look after you then I'll I'll 
put the free beer on in the 

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camp. 
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But no, it would be great to 
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You'll enjoy Martha. 
Jerry, do you do you drink Tea 

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to me podcast? 
You're a tea drinker. 

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That's the first question I ask 
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Coffee. 
Always coffee or is there an 

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occasion? 
I just had a tea down below 

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there with my my stack in the 
Bay Tree Cafe. 

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But when I'm eating food I'll 
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But I would have at least 13 
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Genuinely. 
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that's controversial. 
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But also to have tea with food. 
Now I love the tea. 

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I'm obsessed with tea but do you
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Whatever. 
I'm having a breakfast. 

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If I'm eating, I have to have 
tea. 

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I couldn't. 
I don't know what that's just a 

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taste that's different. 
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whatever food I'm having. 
I have to have a tea. 

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I couldn't have a coffee. 
Would you, would you ever take 

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like a soda to Spain? 
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know, bring some ingredients out
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Nutty crust bread anyone? 
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and soda bread. 
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all these foods over. 
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We sell them in the bar. 
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actually exports them. 
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I miss most is nutty crust 
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I'm going to ask you which being
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you must have people every week 
saying Jerry, we're coming over 

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and is it just is that what it 
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conveyor belt that people from 
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In the summer months, yeah. 
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But people think because I'm 
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most days that it's a holiday. 
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not. 
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with me last night and she's, I 
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but I think all mums turns every
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She's turning my freezer off and
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Spencer's is all. 
I had a thought all that this 

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morning. 
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breaks TV's. 
I usually get her out for about 

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2-3 months every summer, right, 
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It's it's hard. 
Work do you get people like 

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almost seeing news like, you 
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over there if they get into a 
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got any problems or people give 
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I've been arrested by the the 
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Can you help me out? 
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I've had a few, few scary 
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bad as that. 
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people I played football with, 
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out, I try to actually go 
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away from them. 
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haven't had as as scary moments 
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Like, yeah. 
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the, the sort of lockdown Irish 
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is something that just really, 
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Like I, I've always like known 
your name just for from having 

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an interest in Irish League 
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and stuff like that. 
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lockdown, you started every day 
probably, just maybe to break up

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a bit of boredom for yourself as
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You were putting out 2 minute 
22nd stories of of your time 

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playing the Irish League, 
managing all that kind of thing.

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What was the first moment where 
you realised Like this has taken

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off for you? 
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the third or fourth one and 
people started to retweet and 

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stuff and like when we we were 
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So myself and Debbie, we 
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to have to get groceries or to 
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But if you were fined on the way
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water, it was €100 fine and it 
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So I was thinking how did we 
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what everyone was doing, the 
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exercises in the garden and 
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But then it got the stage. 
I was thinking what I'm going to

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do. 
So it was, I was actually going 

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to re enact like a little video 
of a Jared that was taking me 

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down at solitude for a penalty. 
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first one was about Marty Quinn 
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taxing me and saying, oh, go 
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And they were reminding me, oh, 
I have a story about him. 

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I have a story about him. 
And probably the only one that I

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wasn't directly involved in or 
wasn't there was the Kirk Hunter

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story. 
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only one that I'd done in one 
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hours a day sometimes. 
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say, put my videos on Instagram,
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fine. 
But to make it under 2 minutes, 

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20 for Twitter is a nightmare. 
And the idea of doing something 

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in one take because that's what 
you're doing is you telling a 

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story to the camera. 
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seconds. 
There were nearly always 215 or 

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220 on the dog. 
So how many go? 

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Like you're talking a dozen 
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And more. 
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between 30 and 40 to get it 
because I tried to do it where I

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never swore in them. 
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a lot of the players are all 
married men now and different 

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things. 
So their stories always had the 

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and then I want to tripped up or
I have a bunch of these like wee

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tiny parrot things. 
I don't know what you call them,

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but they're in the trees 
outside, right? 

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And at certain hours during the 
day, they just go mental. 

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So I'd be in the middle of a you
know, and I thought I had 

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cracked up and get in the two 
minutes and I've got it all 

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right, man. 
And then I had with the airports

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not far from as the military 
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So we'll have a big jet flag 
cross and I start again. 

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But. 
We're we're boys like buttering 

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you up and like trying to be 
your best mate, like around you.

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And you know, Jerry, we've 
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they wouldn't be in a in a 
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It was. 
It was fun like Mark packing the

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one I told that was one of my 
favourite ones, but he was the 

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night before Jerry, what do you 
want to say? 

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Go easy on me now. 
And you know, the amount of 

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messages coming out was what 
I've done was I think was the 

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day before I'd put out 
tomorrow's one is Mickey Collins

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and you had Mickey wasn't on 
social media, thank God. 

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But most, most people wrong. 
Go easy on me and what are you 

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going to say? 
And you know, but that was great

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crack and I took up took 3 or 4 
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Did you have anybody take thick 
and give you a give you a bit of

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like, was there anyone you heard
maybe even through the Grapevine

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like he wasn't happy? 
Well. 

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No, no, I think everybody took 
it in good GS. 

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As I say, the Kirk Hunter was 
the was the only one that was 

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involved in. 
He he was, for anyone who 

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doesn't know, he would be seen 
as like one of the hardest 

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players. 
They were Players League 

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football and a bit of with a 
disrespect, a bit of an animal 

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like in terms of. 
Yeah, and he's actually Carl 

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Framble's hero, you know, 
growing up and stuff. 

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So someone had said the car, you
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But he had actually spoke to 
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true. 
I'm not going to argue with 

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either Carl or but no, but 
people aren't people don't do 

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big Kirk justice. 
He can actually play as well, 

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you know, and I, you know, I, I 
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socialise with him and stuff 
like that. 

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But anyone who, who did, Chris 
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also a great lad. 
So as I say, that story was the 

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only one that no one I wasn't 
directly involved in, but two 

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people who were there told me 
about it. 

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And you know where he ran after 
the strip of grammar through his

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cassette recorder after him and 
stuff. 

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But no, it was all, it was all 
in good banter. 

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I haven't seen him since so 
hopefully he's alright about it.

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We like whenever they were 
because, because it was 

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genuinely like one of the thing 
because lockdown throws off your

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whole routine and your work and 
all that kind of thing. 

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But that was one thing that I 
was following like every day. 

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It was taking a couple and we 
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that time. 
And to be honest, the priority 

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was kind of hearing your your 
Irish League stories, you know, 

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and I missed the birth, but that
nothing. 

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But then I mean, it was just 
were you getting like, I mean, 

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part of me was thinking why? 
Why would BBC Northern Ireland 

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not be in touch and say, look, 
let's put these together and do 

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something or send the counter 
man out. 

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I don't know. 
But like there was so much like 

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potential where that means 
people were just so into it. 

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And I'll be I didn't know half 
the players. 

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I knew maybe half of the players
you were talking about. 

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I didn't know the teams. 
But just, I don't know whether 

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it's a football thing or not. 
Just always having played 

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football and having that kind of
knowing like what goes on and 

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like you should write a book. 
That's what I was thinking. 

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Like just the stories and. 
Like Stephen Looney used to be 

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on the Sunday. 
Yeah, Steve was a great lad. 

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Steve was on to being allowed. 
People say we're going to bring 

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a DVD out and stuff like that. 
And then people were 

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disappointed. 
What happened was my actual 

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phone and computer was stole out
of my garden right about the I 

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think it was about 20 or 9 or 30
had done and we Simba who always

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say on. 
Twitter. 

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So do you think that could have 
been one of the next players you

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were talking about? 
Like could. 

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Have been playing for could have
been but no that actually sort 

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of not that it was running out. 
I was actually running out of 

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clean stories that I could tell,
you know, see the leaf anyone? 

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Like I think it was. 
An away trip was it? 

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But I couldn't. 
I had about 40 stories on Lee 

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and I couldn't. 
And everyone says when there's 

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Lee Feeny story, when's it 
coming? 

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And I couldn't actually. 
I couldn't get a clean one to 

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put in without getting them in 
trouble. 

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Did you talk about the the TV 
story? 

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You TV story, man? 
This is a rumour. 

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I'd heard about it. 
So Lee Feeny was someone who 

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went over to Rangers from here 
when he was pretty young, was 

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seen as like the golden chest, 
one of the most talented players

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ever come out in Northern 
Ireland. 

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I had always heard a rumour, I 
didn't know if it was an urban 

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myth or not, that he, when he 
went to Scotland, took his took 

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his TV with him, as in like the 
the, the TV because he wanted, 

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because he wanted to keep 
getting UTV. 

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It wasn't, do you know what? 
It wasn't part of past one part 

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of past. 
I mean, he's, I absolutely loved

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the bits. 
He's one of the nicest, nicest 

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guys he'll ever meet. 
Very talented. 

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Yeah. 
And I, he's now manager of 

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Banker. 
But no, I remember one time at 

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the end of the season do we used
to take all the players away. 

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We went to Liverpool and as I 
was, I had a load of properties 

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at the time I was doing a bit of
property development and it was 

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literally my phone was going 
nonstop. 

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And he has this sweet Dolby 
Kilkelax and this gaffer. 

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Would you ever turn that phone 
off? 

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But he was the only player we 
let came into the chaining room 

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at the end of training. 
They used to come in with me and

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then the one just sit down and 
like the time I find his brother

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Colin, two weeks wages. 
He had been drinking the night 

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before the game and I came in 
and Colin was pure wait and Lee 

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came in after training because 
him and Lee and the dad used to 

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live all in the one house. 
And he comes in, he says gaffer,

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you can't find Colin two weeks 
wages or you need to, you need 

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to do it weekly. 
And I says well he's only six 

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months left on his contract and 
he says like what are you 

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talking weekly? 
He says look fibre. 

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I said well he needs to sign in 
an extension in order for me to 

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take that fibre of his wages for
the next two years. 

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But then I had somebody from 
Kelkie, let's say 1 of 

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Parameligy, but we belly for him
and he said Jay, yeah, you 

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can't, you can't be fine. 
And him out there, you know, he 

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won the ad for two weeks now. 
But two great, absolutely 2 

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schmicing lads. 
But what a what a player. 

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We used to go to Spain at the 
end of the year as well with the

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staff and leave. 
It came along and I'd had maybe 

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four or five beers and I used 
to, I used to have a go at him 

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saying that you're talent, why 
you're not still there. 

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You should be playing the 
Premiership. 

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You cut him on and he was, he 
just has a doesn't have a car in

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the world. 
When I was playing for Hollywood

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he played in the game down the 
Sea Park here against us. 

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I think it was a cup game and 
they I think they won seven or 

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seven one and he sat our keeper 
down twice and scoring the one 

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goal went round him, almost 
brought it back, did it again 

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and think that over the top and 
you're thinking why are you 

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playing in front of not two men 
and a dog, you know 1 merman. 

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I can't. 
No, he just. 

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But again, nothing, even to this
day, nothing fazes him. 

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He just doesn't worry about 
anything. 

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I know what he's you know, he 
said he wasn't good enough. 

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But like the first day he 
arrives, he goes into the room 

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and Andrei Koncheskas was in it 
and they were flying out to 

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America and he just Andrew he 
was watching some programme in 

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Russian and Fino like puts in 
foes showcase on They're flying 

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out to Florida the next day and 
he says after about 1/2 an hour 

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watching Russian TV, you know 
here Andre turn that over. 

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What you put the UTV or 
something on as you say, 

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absolutely rapid. 
But some of the stories about 

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him, funny as anything. 
Take me, take me back and talk a

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little bit about your journey so
you, you know, the way I see it,

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like player manager and then got
into business and that kind of 

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thing. 
But are you from where 

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whereabouts in Belfast was? 
Originally from the new Lodge 

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and my mum actually got me out, 
got me out, but not that they 

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leave just you know, you just 
don't know what would have 

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happened or what sort of path I 
would have taken. 

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And her, my dad, we moved to 
Glengarvie and I'm feeling when 

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I was 9 and then lived there. 
My mum, my mum is still there. 

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My dad passed away a few years 
ago, but she's still there to 

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this day. 
And so I recently found new guys

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but grew up in Glen Glen. 
And everyone knew, like a lot of

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the people you talk about for 
the stories you would you have 

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played football with at like 
underage level and all that kind

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of thing. 
And. 

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Well, Tim, McCann, Wayne and Tim
probably played in Crystal 

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Brothers High Town. 
We weren't allowed to play 

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football. 
It was hurling and Gaelic up 

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until the year after we left. 
I would have had a really good 

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side then when you look back at 
the players, but you know, me 

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and me and Tim would have grew 
up 10. 

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We ended up marrying my cousin, 
so we played at Clinical 

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together, you know, so me and 
Tim would have would have been 

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really good friends growing up 
and. 

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Like looking at the Irish League
now, it's it, it feels almost 

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like nearly professional in a 
way. 

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Like some of the facilities, the
the, the fitness of players all 

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that. 
Kind of like I hadn't fallen in 

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the Irish League for about 10-15
years. 

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It seems like it's it it so many
clubs going towards full time 

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and that kind of thing. 
When you started playing Irish 

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League football, was it complete
night and day? 

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Like was it a totally different 
game then? 

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Like, especially at 
Cliftonville, like we won the 

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league in 1998 with Marty Quinn 
and the wee grounds man Paddy 

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Madden. 
It was his anniversary. 

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I think he died maybe 2-3 years 
ago. 

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And this is not a word of a lie.
Like you'd have had solitude 

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when it had the grass pitch. 
You'd have had like lines up 

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with a where he ran out of 
petrol with a lawnmower and it 

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was like half it really was. 
And then there was one. 

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This is this is true, true Bill.
You know, the way you line the 

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pitch with the thing, he was 
doing it with a door, you know, 

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and he was going like 6 foot and
then moving the door up to make 

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sure the line because the line 
used to be just wig like, Oh, 

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bendy the whole way up. 
And we were like Paddy, you 

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know, at one stage you'd be a 
foot out of the pitch and you're

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calling for but. 
We literally had enough and then

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we were laughing. 
It was Tommy Mcdonnell's story 

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about sharing a bath. 
Like if anyone said sharing a 

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bath now 12 clocks, you know, 
and used to straight in and you 

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never even listened to what 
Connor said. 

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You just want to dig in. 
The bath especially was the 

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winter. 
But that time Tommy ended up 

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putting the wee cocktail sausage
in between his two cheeks at 

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Windsor and comes up and he's 
walking like a wee duck. 

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And then he just drops it into 
the bath and ten of us all out. 

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So he got one of the hot spots, 
but he couldn't think about that

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now. 
Absolutely crazy, but no, it's 

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night and day and just the new 
business that would have set up.

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I'm going around a lot of the 
clubs and I that I used to like 

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it's been maybe 10-12 years 
since I've been to certain clubs

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and Larne like it must be 20 
years since I've been there and.

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The setup of Larne, for anyone 
who doesn't know, it's like 

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something out of a like a comedy
series somebody would write 

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where a guy originally from 
Larne who's worth 100 million or

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certainly a multi multi 
millionaire has just come back 

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and just decided to make Lauren 
a huge force in like in local 

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football. 
And it's like, you know, sorted 

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the stadium out their full time 
players coming over from across 

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the water and just empty. 
And then then that's happened to

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the Glens as well. 
So it's almost like overnight 

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there's you're talking about 
millions in the Irish League as 

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opposed to. 
Yeah, definitely bought that. 

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And you know what? 
Kenny is one of the nicest guys 

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you'll ever meet. 
I don't. 

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I didn't know him personally. 
And it was one of the stories 

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that I'd done and I included his
name in it. 

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And I says, you know, Martin 
Donnelly who's from the New 

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Lodge, I know all the family and
stuff. 

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And you know, one of the stories
was I say it's Google the owners

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of Purple Bricks. 
It's not owned by Kenny Bruce 

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anymore. 
It's the Donnelly's on it. 

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You know, they were the new 
Dodge Mafia. 

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And so he actually he loved it. 
And since then, you know, we 

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became friends and you know, I 
asked him advice on a couple of 

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things business wise and without
even normally, you know, yeah, 

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no problem at all. 
So I've actually done some 

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sponsorship with with Lauren. 
We had sponsored the Green 

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Spanish Home, sponsored one of 
the lounges. 

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00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,880
But it's great for the league. 
About 18 months ago I just 

444
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,400
noticed on social media because 
they were, they went full time 

445
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,120
and staff were full time and the
social media presence just 

446
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:42,320
became fantastic and every club 
started copying them nearly and 

447
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,320
that's just brought the whole 
profile of the league up. 

448
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,320
Now he comes off a couple of. 
Tweets. 

449
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,880
And you wouldn't like that guy 
cutting the pitch with the door 

450
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,480
because he had a problem with 
pitches. 

451
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,320
Unbelievable. 
But then afterward I throw the 

452
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,640
odd tweet out and saying all 
that pitch looks fantastic. 

453
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,240
The grounds man must be great. 
And you you do catch a couple of

454
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,680
guys saying that's a plastic 
pitch, but you always get them. 

455
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,840
No, but he's he's a really good 
guy. 

456
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,080
As you say, he's a 
multimillionaire. 

457
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560
But what he's trying to do is 
invest money in the club and try

458
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320
and make itself sustainable. 
And they've pulled a really a 

459
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,040
couple of really good sponsors 
on and I think it can only be 

460
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,960
beneficial for the league. 
The same with Glentorne. 

461
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,720
Does it like? 
I think it does take like 

462
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,560
without professionalism coming 
in and the money coming in, it 

463
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,680
kind of takes out a lot of that,
like a lot of the characters of 

464
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,760
the game. 
But that's maybe the same for 

465
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,760
football in general. 
You know, I don't think 20 years

466
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960
from now any players playing now
will be able to tell the stories

467
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,080
you were telling. 
It just doesn't seem like that 

468
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,800
kind of thing. 
And players socialising the way 

469
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,120
they did and the trips and you 
know that even the idea of 

470
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:49,440
someone drinking before a game, 
like I would say that is far 

471
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,600
less likely now to happen. 
Like when you, when you sign, 

472
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600
when you sign for for a 
Cliftonville, whatever, what 

473
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,840
what, what wages were you on at 
the time when you first signed? 

474
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,480
I started off at Bangor and I 
went from Bangor to Hull City 

475
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,320
and I signed a professional 
contract. 

476
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,440
Paul were in the old when it was
First Division, Second Division 

477
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,280
before Premiership game so they 
were in the Second Division. 

478
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,800
My first offer they gave me as a
professional contract was £85 a 

479
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,440
week. 
They then put it up to 95 before

480
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,920
I signed but I had to pay my own
digs so I used to come out with 

481
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,680
about £32.00 a week. 
By the time at digs tax 

482
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,600
insurance was on. 
My mum used to send me send me 

483
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,320
£10 every Monday morning along 
with some Vita Taylor bread and 

484
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,880
soda bread. 
But no, when I went, I'd come 

485
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,640
back from Hull. 
So just a Championship player 

486
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960
now would be on easily 10 grand 
away, yeah. 

487
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:44,040
Yeah, at least, Yeah, so. 
And I went. 

488
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,160
When I went away from home, the 
only things I used to eat was 

489
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,720
like chopped steak. 
I like corned beef. 

490
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,920
And when I come back, I actually
was eating everything. 

491
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,840
Was that hungry? 
But my first contract with 

492
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Ballyclare when I come back was 
£25 a week with Jim Platt, Acts 

493
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,840
Northern Ireland goalkeeper. 
Me and Gem had became really 

494
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,960
good friends ever since then. 
He's always coming, like to 

495
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480
Spain. 
But Gem also gave me a job 

496
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,320
selling ladies tights in the 
markets all around Northern 

497
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760
Ireland. 
And I used to get 15 LB a 

498
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:19,400
morning and we're like Marks and
Spencer's tights, but like 

499
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000
little flexing. 
Is it the gossiper up here? 

500
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,520
And I knew the 1520 down here 
opaque tights and when I started

501
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,720
my own run. 
So I loved the, I loved the, the

502
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,840
winter months where I used to 
buy the 50P tights of Gemini and

503
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,200
I would have sold them for a 
pound where there were 399 and 

504
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160
Marks and Spencers and my aunt 
worked in the dentist. 

505
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,440
I had all hairdressers. 
I went round, I was on about 

506
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,880
four or £500 a week playing for 
Ballyclare. 

507
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,720
But I was selling ladies tights 
and tights and then I was 

508
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,240
absolutely meant it. 
And then the warm weather came 

509
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,480
in and I hated it. 
But you were just talking about 

510
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,600
drink. 
Like I, when you look at it, my 

511
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,680
the rewards for getting into 
Europe are like 1,000,000 LB 

512
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,880
Crusaders and stuff like that. 
But we played Kasichi. 

513
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,120
I want to get a story in here 
because I I. 

514
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,920
Please do. 
It's. 

515
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Where's Kasichi? 
It's, I don't know, Slovakia or 

516
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,720
somewhere like that, but we won 
the league in 98. 

517
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,960
So the story is Siddadine 
Siddhan, David Beckham, Ryan 

518
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Giggs, Jerry Flynn, Raul, what 
have they all got in common? 

519
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,120
We've all scored in the 
Champions League. 

520
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,320
I thought for a second I thought
you were going to say, so I paid

521
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,600
somebody. 
No, I get that in and I had AI 

522
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,120
had a yard on every year. 
So now he was actually a scored 

523
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,560
from 43 yards and a Brooklyn 
keepers 2 wrists, but no, and 

524
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,960
then the punchline is but we 
were beat 13. 

525
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,800
What an aggregate. 
I don't like to tell too many 

526
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,480
people that, but you're just 
saying like we were beat 51 at 

527
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,400
home and we goes out and take a 
CG and the night before the game

528
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,800
corner. 
You know, he's a realist and he 

529
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480
says like, realistically lads, 
we're not going to win this. 

530
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,160
It's not. 
What you want? 

531
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,320
Yeah. 
He says, so don't we have it any

532
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,920
more than 4 pints tonight, 
right. 

533
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,560
The boys were absolutely 
hammered before we go out the 

534
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,880
next day and we get PDF nil, 
which would never happen in in 

535
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,080
these days. 
But but even like leading up to 

536
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,760
to one in the league with club 
Well, that year, every Tuesday 

537
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,640
night and Thursday night, the 
boys would have went out and had

538
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280
a few beers together. 
And you know, that was the the 

539
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,000
togetherness because you know, 
the training facilities were 

540
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,320
horrendous. 
You know, we didn't have much 

541
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:23,080
money, but we just had it 
together. 

542
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,880
That's in a small squad as well,
so you know it it worked. 

543
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,480
But like clubs now like you 
know, most of them would 

544
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,000
probably meet for breakfast 
would do it like or or a lunch 

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
before the game, which is 
obviously all healthy food. 

546
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,840
We used just just grab something
on the way and like. 

547
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,880
Like I'm one of his manager at 
Newry. 

548
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960
I try to try to introduce all 
the healthy eating and through 

549
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,680
the Academy and stuff. 
But yet I had we we pitchy from 

550
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,360
the short strand. 
What do you mean? 

551
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:51,160
Walking into the ground, eating 
a burger with bacon hanging a 

552
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,320
brown sauce coming down his 
shirt and stuff. 

553
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,120
And I go, what are you doing? 
You know you. 

554
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,400
You. 
Can I ask why we piggy? 

555
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,640
He was called We Piggy. 
Present he was just all present,

556
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320
him and Joe McDonald. 
You know, I give Joe was over at

557
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,480
Millwall again, a couple of 
stories with Joe where you know,

558
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,440
I got threats from boys at 
Australia and stuff because I 

559
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,000
dropped them and I put them on 
the list. 

560
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,720
And then the next thing he went 
and sang for Ballymena behind my

561
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,840
back. 
And so I I I was fining him for 

562
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,280
even looking at me. 
And you know, he he told me to 

563
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920
know ingrown Antonio one day and
I made him do laps on his flip 

564
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,040
flaps and gave him bless theirs.
But you know, we fail out there.

565
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,480
But me and you are good friends 
now. 

566
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,840
And when I'm back, I usually 
meet him for a beer and like 

567
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720
some of the stories he tells me 
now what they were up to. 

568
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,160
Yeah, I thought they were, you 
know, because we we were doing 

569
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,680
well in Yuri and but I was 
thinking how they even played 

570
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,760
some of the games when I find we
piggy put him on the list one 

571
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,600
time and he says thanks Geffer. 
And then he said to Joe, what 

572
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080
does on the list mean? 
He says you're getting ready and

573
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520
he went Joe, you get ready. 
To me, he doesn't even know what

574
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,800
was on the transfer list. 
Thought he was on the good 

575
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,880
behaviour list. 
But it's some great lies. 

576
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680
And as I say, some of the 
stories, like I had Maggie 

577
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Collins as well. 
Maggie was. 

578
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,840
He he came. 
So towards the end of when I was

579
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,200
playing for all. 
Well, yeah, but ten years ago I 

580
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,680
was playing for Hollywood and 
for summary, two boys took over 

581
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,160
that were managing some parts 
maybe, and they just one day 

582
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920
just brought Mickey Collins. 
You need to warn people if 

583
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,720
you're going to bring Mickey 
Collins to train them. 

584
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,960
Because we were like, you know, 
amateur league team and, you 

585
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,320
know, mild mannered guys. 
And then all of a sudden this 

586
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,120
ball fell, got out of a car and 
I was like, Oh no. 

587
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,840
And he just started hurting 
people. 

588
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,080
He. 
He played one friendly for. 

589
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,840
Mickey was and I'm being, I'm 
being polite. 

590
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,240
When I said he was mental, he 
really was like it was a story. 

591
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040
He was ported down at the time 
and I had played with Mickey at 

592
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Cliftonville and then he went 
off to port it down. 

593
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,600
But we played them and there's a
wee guy, Steven Ferguson, wee 

594
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,040
tiny guy who played Santa 
midfield. 

595
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,240
And I says to Fergie, look, see 
in the 1st 5 minutes, whisper 

596
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,040
this into Mickey's ear, all 
right? 

597
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,200
And he was what? 
I'm not saying that I says 

598
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Fergie, you just do it. 
So I'm not going to tell you 

599
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,440
what I said, but. 
What is it? 

600
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Some personal. 
Yeah, so within 5 minutes he 

601
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,000
whispers in the Mickey's ear. 
Mickey just sees red, starts 

602
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,520
throwing haymakers all over the 
place. 

603
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,320
There's a great food in the 
Sunday life. 

604
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,120
We Fergie. 
We Fergie with a fist. 

605
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,760
So next thing, Mickey's absolute
red card and it was right beside

606
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,440
our dog out. 
So I grabbed them and he was 

607
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840
still like a bowl. 
I said, Mikey, Mikey, it's 

608
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Flynner. 
Flynner, it's Jerry. 

609
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880
I said, Mikey, go off now 
because you're going to get, he 

610
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,720
ended up getting I think 11 game
suspension. 

611
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,520
Yeah. 
But then I go to sign him while 

612
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,800
he was still suspended. 
So we it was like, it was like 

613
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,800
September time. 
I met him down at McDonald's in 

614
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,960
New Yorkgate. 
As in by chance? 

615
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,040
No, no, no. 
So that's where I went to meet 

616
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,160
him. 
So I said, Mickey, what do you 

617
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,160
want? 
He had a Big Mac. 

618
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,560
And the next thing I'm 
discussing terms with him about 

619
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,320
signing him. 
And, you know, the tables in 

620
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,960
there, they're like, bolted to 
the ground. 

621
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Yeah. 
So I says, like, Mickey, you 

622
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,480
can't do what you do, and 
everybody knows how to wind you 

623
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,280
up. 
I says like it was me who told 

624
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,200
me Fergie that and I could just 
feel the table lifting as if he 

625
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440
was going to pull it out of the 
ground and beat me over the head

626
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,520
with it. 
So I had done a deal with him. 

627
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
You know, he would get a, say, a
washing machine or he would get 

628
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,680
a bonus every time that he 
wasn't sent off so many times 

629
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,520
and. 
Yeah, you would. 

630
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Was that a kind of Irish League 
thing? 

631
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Honestly, no. 
Well, it was just you couldn't 

632
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640
give him any money because then 
he'd probably he wouldn't turn 

633
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,760
up for a game or something like 
that. 

634
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,160
But the alliances, yeah, a great
guy. 

635
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,120
It was one of one of the the 
club men at the time used to 

636
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,600
make him deals where he would 
bring him a perfume before every

637
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,200
game and all for honestly he but
he was. 

638
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,680
That is why I love the Irish 
League. 

639
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,560
It's. 
He's getting a bonus of either a

640
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,720
washing machine or perfume and 
you management, you're getting 

641
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,200
McDonald's. 
That's why I love the Irish 

642
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,760
League. 
You know, and I said it's the 

643
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000
greatest league in the world, 
you know, it's just, you know, 

644
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,840
you've managers offering to 
fight other managers and car 

645
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,720
parks and stuff. 
You know, you just don't get it 

646
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,840
in the Premiership, you know, 
like Stephen Baxter would. 

647
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,920
I'll fight anybody. 
And then you've mad Mick at Glen

648
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,640
Tour and people are waiting him 
up as well. 

649
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Tim McCann's another one. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

650
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,240
But again, it's just the 
professionalism is great to see.

651
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440
But again, as you say, there's 
there's not as many as 

652
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,400
characters like, like come back 
to Mickey. 

653
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,280
I'd signed him and we played 
five across the middle and he'd 

654
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
made his debut against 
Distillery on New Year's Day. 

655
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,240
And stupidly I put him in. 
I should a lot of I should have 

656
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
given more time to see what way 
we played the system. 

657
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,080
But he was all over the show 
when he was going up, closing 

658
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,560
people down when he wasn't 
supposed to. 

659
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840
And he comes in at half time and
I used to do a PowerPoint before

660
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,040
every game and have me up on my 
guide and the projector up and 

661
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,680
next thing like he just comes in
and just throws the whole table 

662
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,320
up in the air. 
The computer goes flying 

663
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240
absolutely bust. 
And he kicks the whole tea over.

664
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,960
And all the boys were all, as 
you say, you know. 

665
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Well the douche were the lads 
playing, they were just never 

666
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,320
seen. 
He was just like crazy, you 

667
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
know, and I believe now he's 
getting in the cage fight and 

668
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,840
you know, with that, I think 
he's finally he's fine. 

669
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,200
That's a sport, but a great, 
great lad, a funny, funny boy. 

670
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,240
I have a fantastic story, but I 
I can't really tell about be 

671
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,400
full of hoops right when my gate
were in a place where he worked.

672
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,960
But I'll tell, I'll tell you off
her. 

673
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,360
But it, it, it just sums him up.
Well. 

674
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240
I need to tell you off her 
because I'm here in Belfast. 

675
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360
I want to get out of here 
before, before I tell you a 

676
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,640
story. 
I'll tell you when I get back to

677
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Spain. 
And then like being a manager as

678
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,840
well when you moved into 
management, is it, I imagine if 

679
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,400
you're a manager of Hull 
Championship club, not that it's

680
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,840
easy, but like, you know, you're
talking to professional athletes

681
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,720
who are all probably fairly 
motivated. 

682
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,080
They'll all be there in training
in time. 

683
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Was it difficult being an Irish 
League man? 

684
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Were you literally babysitting 
people at times? 

685
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,120
And. 
That that was, that was the 

686
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,480
thing because when I played, I 
knew I only had to live after 

687
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
myself, make sure I was healthy,
make sure I went to bed at the 

688
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,400
right time. 
And I always did, you know, But 

689
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,320
when you go in and it just 
seemed to be that at that 

690
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080
particular time at Newry, I only
signed Rockets. 

691
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,240
You know, when, when I look at 
the boys, at the two Feeney 

692
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,639
brothers at Pigeon and Joe 
McDonnell, I end up signing 

693
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,679
McGee, Collins Goose, the 
goalkeeper who played for 

694
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,400
Linfield, I met him in town the 
other day. 

695
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,280
I ended up signing Sean Ferraris
who was at Klimenville, you 

696
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,040
know, and Minto was the number 
two and it was like Jay, you 

697
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,679
need to sign at least one or two
sensible lads, you know. 

698
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,159
But it actually worked. 
You know, we got the the first 

699
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,080
cup final in years, but no. 
On it. 

700
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Was the cup final when you 
played it? 

701
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Was it against David Jeffrey? 
No, no, that was. 

702
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,600
Story about David Jeffrey and 
the way he sure cans David 

703
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Jeffrey. 
Obviously Freddy doesn't know 

704
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,600
Linfield manager for decades. 
Big, big imposing guy and like, 

705
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,679
big character and for no 
apparent reason says people's 

706
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:51,320
full name. 
And like, whenever he's being 

707
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,920
interviewed, like he is boxed. 
Like his interviews after games 

708
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,480
were fantastic. 
And then you you told the story 

709
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400
about, you know, he does that 
kind of dominating thing that 

710
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Donald Trump does as well, 
apparently, of when they shake, 

711
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,760
when you shake your hand, they 
pull you in or, or make it a bit

712
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,000
too hard or, you know, so you 
pull you off balance. 

713
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Did you show that they're the 
big dog? 

714
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,720
The. 
Alpha male, it was part of the 

715
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,520
the pro licence when I I'd done 
it. 

716
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
It was part of your media 
training and stuff like that and

717
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,600
what way you're supposed to 
stand. 

718
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,520
You don't cross your arms. 
You look big and you look at 

719
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040
world leaders. 
Putin does it, Trump tries to do

720
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,080
it, but so I'd I'd done it on 
the Sunday and we play the Blues

721
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,320
the following week. 
So I'm right. 

722
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,240
Let's put this in. 
And Davy always grabs you at the

723
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,640
back of the head and pulls you 
in and kisses your forehead, 

724
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,400
right? 
Not only does he give you a firm

725
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,120
handshake, but he tries to kiss 
your forehead. 

726
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,760
So the next thing I'm going 
right And he has me by the back 

727
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,200
of the neck. 
He's trying to pull me in, I'm 

728
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,920
pulling away, he's trying to 
kiss me. 

729
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,200
And it was like it was like a 
comedy sketch on its own, but 

730
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,960
absolute. 
I and then he Davy would never 

731
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:58,160
do his his team to ours media 
after until I'd done 9 used to 

732
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,880
say. 
What did he say? 

733
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,600
Because I I always try to wind 
them up. 

734
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,720
You know, we'll never feel 
funded by the IFA. 

735
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,040
They have the most money. 
We have no money coming up here.

736
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,000
And so he would have said as 
well. 

737
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Steven Garrett didn't go down 
there for £50 a week. 

738
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,280
You know, that's all he was 
getting to Linfield. 

739
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Jerry's giving him triple or 
quadruple that. 

740
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,240
But I've seen him at a wedding. 
Joel Taggart. 

741
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,800
I'd get married about two years 
ago, I think out in Lamanga and 

742
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,320
I'm I always meet Joel and 
Mcfadrey's and Albert and stuff 

743
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,960
when they come over a game of 
golf and stuff. 

744
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,040
But I was sitting at his table 
and I hadn't seen him in years. 

745
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640
First thing he does, lifts me up
on the ground, kisses me in the 

746
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,840
forehead, has me in a Burr hug. 
Jerry, great to see you. 

747
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,920
But I made the mistake of 
telling him I didn't believe in 

748
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,280
God. 
And he was, he was absolutely. 

749
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,160
And his wife had to say, look, 
will you leave Jerry alone? 

750
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,560
Leave him alone. 
And the next thing I come back 

751
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,560
and the little minister was over
and he was saying, Jerry, we've 

752
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,240
just said a prayer there to find
God again and stuff like that. 

753
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,000
And next day he was on the train
going to Barcelona. 

754
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Me and Debbie had drove around 
back to our house and text 

755
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,280
message came through. 
Really good to see you, your 

756
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
lovely wife Debbie, and I'm 
still praying that you thank 

757
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,520
God, you know, but I'm 
absolutely, he's one of the 

758
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,080
best. 
He's one of the best guys in the

759
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,160
league. 
Again, just another character 

760
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,960
who like, it'll be, you know, 
it'll be so sad if the Irish 

761
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840
League dolls go that way where 
it's a bit more professional and

762
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,360
you don't have those big. 
He did the exact same handshake 

763
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,760
to me. 
We're playing a charity game at 

764
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,000
Seaview. 
I don't know if you ever you 

765
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,240
probably didn't see my goal. 
I posted it up a few times. 

766
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Yeah, I've heard about it. 
Yeah, I was supposed to play in 

767
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,880
that actually that game. 
What do you think it? 

768
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,600
Was fantastic. 
I'm surprised. 

769
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,080
I'm surprised the Blues, that 
Glenn's thing come in for you. 

770
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,200
Genuinely, David Jeffrey was 
managing the opposition team and

771
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,320
he's obviously Ballymena manager
and I honestly thought after the

772
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,560
game he might because my hold up
throughout the I'm not a striker

773
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,400
real shift. 
And I thought there is a chance 

774
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,320
DJ is going to say to me, but he
did that before the game. 

775
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,480
I was when you walk into our 
dressing room as the first one 

776
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,000
there and like Keith Gillespie's
there, Jim Mcjilton, loads of 

777
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,640
people. 
And I was just sitting off the 

778
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,880
one side because the only people
I get starstruck by really are 

779
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,280
footballers. 
So I was just kind of keeping my

780
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
head down, me and my mate. 
And I was the first one when you

781
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,680
walked in the dressing room and 
David Jeffrey walked in and you 

782
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,680
know, I've never actually seen 
him in person. 

783
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,400
So I would take him back and he 
reached out, he took my hand, he

784
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,840
pulled me in. 
He might have kissed my 

785
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,240
forehead, he ruffled my hair. 
He did whatever he did. 

786
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,640
And honestly, I thought he must 
love my videos. 

787
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,720
You know, I thought he's a fan. 
And he was really happy to see 

788
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,280
the way he embraced me. 
And then he proceeded to do it 

789
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,160
the other 30 people in the room.
As you say, he's a character and

790
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,560
you know you can't argue. 
I think he's most successful 

791
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,240
manager in world football. 
What he's on the Blues is an 

792
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,760
incredible point. 
What sort of what sort of sort 

793
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,840
of shit do you take being 
involved? 

794
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Haven't played for so many 
different clubs, managing 

795
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,560
different clubs, say like a 
night out in Belfast back in the

796
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,720
day was that, was that kind of 
thing bad was that was there a 

797
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,360
lot of. 
We sort of grew up through the 

798
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,960
main troubles. 
You know, I was out for dinner 

799
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,320
with my best mates in the last 
night and we were always saying,

800
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,520
you know, when we when we went 
away to Spain and people always 

801
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
wondered why we always sat 
looking at the door and the door

802
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,040
opened. 
Everyone looks over. 

803
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,200
But it's nearly a thing of 
growing up, you know, I think 

804
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,560
that happened. 
But no, I remember one night 

805
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,440
again and it was some scary 
times then. 

806
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,320
It was when it was really bad, 
but all the player, well apart 

807
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,880
from the ones from West Belfast 
like Pocket McAllister and 

808
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,160
stuff, they would never have 
come into town. 

809
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,240
You know, the Westies always 
stayed in the West. 

810
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,600
They never come out of it. 
But we were in the, we used to 

811
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,040
go to the Joxer after the game. 
You'd have had the Blues, the 

812
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,320
Glens, Crusaders, 3 or 4 boys 
out of each team and there was 

813
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,240
always crack and I was always 
banter, you know, you know, 

814
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,840
social media. 
But I was phoning. 

815
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160
I think it was my dad to say, 
look, Dad pick me up at such and

816
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,320
such. 2:00 and Michael surgeon 
came from from behind and there 

817
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,920
was the old phone boxes where we
get at the bottom. 

818
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,160
Yeah. 
And he throws a load of 

819
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,800
firelighters, you know, 
firecrackers in. 

820
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,880
And I'm not joking. 
I actually, I, I thought it was,

821
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,280
I thought somebody had opened up
on me. 

822
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,640
I thought I was shattered and I 
couldn't get out of it. 

823
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040
I dropped the phone. 
My mum ended up fainting. 

824
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,240
My dad was shooting down the 
phone. 

825
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,280
Are you all right? 
Are you all right? 

826
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,680
You all right? 
I had to go back. 

827
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,720
And he says, what happened? 
We thought you were like I'd 

828
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,760
lived with the phone. 
What, just some of the things 

829
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,360
back and, you know, you always, 
you always took it in your 

830
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,000
stride. 
And, you know, I, I was lucky. 

831
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,280
Yeah. 
We ended up in parties and the 

832
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Shankill and different things 
and me being from a new law. 

833
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,360
It's playing for Clinton. 
Well, you know, it wasn't. 

834
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,800
It wasn't done then. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

835
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,840
But I always got on well with 
with everybody and it was scary.

836
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Time and how come you did end up
at speed? 

837
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040
I was a walking heart attack. 
It literally was after what 

838
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,400
happened in Yuri and I had the 
property portfolio lost 

839
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,000
everything I'd bought a place 
out there previously. 

840
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,160
Sorry, I would imagine that when
you, you know, if you're going 

841
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,920
through business problems or you
know that kind of also being a 

842
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,680
manager of a football club 
doesn't help balance out the, 

843
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,200
the stress levels. 
There was a couple of times a 

844
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,080
day to end up in the hospital. 
I actually thought I was, you 

845
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200
know, I was taking a heart 
attack one time. 

846
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,440
I was just. 
But again, looking back, it was 

847
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,960
stress. 
And again I was, I was thinking,

848
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,000
right, I'm going to go out 
there. 

849
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680
I went out. 
I had a big massive minibus of 

850
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,760
336,000 kilometres on it and I 
just started doing airport runs 

851
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,200
and I probably do more work now 
than I did before I moved this, 

852
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,720
but I had no regrets. 
But if I ever say I probably 

853
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,120
wish I had done it 10 years 
before that, yeah, it's a great 

854
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,120
lifestyle and. 
Do you have any involvement in 

855
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,840
football out there or like? 
No, go and watch the odd game I 

856
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,800
still keep in. 
I do the odd commentary when I 

857
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,560
come back here. 
I always watch the results and 

858
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,480
then I with so many live games 
and streaming, I keep I keep in 

859
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,080
so. 
Because Mercia where you are, 

860
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,000
and I know you say Mercia, yeah,
I think because you've been over

861
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,840
there that long, you can. 
I can't. 

862
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,240
I don't think yet. 
I'm ready for that. 

863
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,280
But has their team had like a 
load of money pumped into it, 

864
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,840
like racing, Racing Mercia? 
And they signed like Julian 

865
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,720
Lescott or something. 
Then he said they didn't know 

866
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,640
anything about it. 
I'm not sure, but Mercia are 

867
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,480
actually, let me get this right,
they're in La Liga, I think. 

868
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,160
I think they've just been 
promoted again, so. 

869
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,040
Why are you not saying listen? 
Scored in Champions League. 

870
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,280
Can't give me a couple more 
weeks actually. 

871
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I think I think get involved and

872
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680
even on the plain side like 
don't know if they have any 

873
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Champions League goal scorers 
like. 

874
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,560
No, I wouldn't think so. 
No, I might put, I might put 

875
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,720
that my CV and throw it in 
there. 

876
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,000
And do yeah. 
And and like you say, you 

877
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,240
working on property, you 
probably do have a load. 

878
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,440
Do most people buy properties 
from you come from Belfast and. 

879
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,320
There's quite a few from from 
back home and again, the Twitter

880
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,200
stories, as I said, I think a 
700 followers, I'm up there 5000

881
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:42,600
now because of the football 
stories. 

882
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,920
And then I started doing like 
little videos walking along and 

883
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,960
I do have really good bargains 
for people because I'm from here

884
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,680
and people who are thinking 
about buying there and then they

885
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,520
know me to see the videos and I 
give away some of the secrets 

886
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,600
that some of the agents are 
doing. 

887
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880
So it's it's pissed a lot of 
them off, but it's it's 

888
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,920
beneficial for me. 
So. 

889
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,280
Is there, is there like a little
bit of a Northern Ireland, sort 

890
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,160
of like a Belfast community? 
There are of expats like other 

891
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,440
people you kind of run into. 
Well, about 20 minutes away 

892
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,600
there's a place called Lasagna 
and they have a bar called 

893
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Paddy's Point. 
It's probably the busiest bar, 

894
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:18,240
but then that whole region of 
the Alicante and Northea region.

895
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,640
But Joe Kernan, the ex our 
manager. 

896
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,240
So Joe promoted a company who I 
subsequently bought off back 15 

897
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,600
years ago. 
So that whole Lasagna area is a 

898
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,120
lot of people from, you know, 
our my life, Joe recommended a 

899
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,480
lot of people there. 
So down where I am now, more and

900
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,920
more, a few people from Kerry, 
you know, different places, 

901
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,960
learn what places. 
And it's becoming more popular. 

902
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,800
So yeah. 
I mean, I I love it like yes, 

903
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,800
when you do videos walking along
and you just especially now with

904
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,680
I've not been away for so long 
and all the crap that's going 

905
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,280
on, like when you just see the 
sun out then and the beach and 

906
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,560
that kind of thing. 
Like must be nice to be locked 

907
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,560
and like it's not never going to
be in lockdown, but to be locked

908
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,280
down somewhere like that looks 
looks like they're kind of the 

909
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,480
ticket. 
Yeah, it's good. 

910
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,160
And again, but I, I, I do a 
thing as soon as I go on or 

911
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,760
someone puts a tweet, especially
more so on Twitter now where 

912
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,120
people say that's freezing back 
in Belfast, the first thing I do

913
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,360
is on why don't you rent this 
place or buy this place? 

914
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,600
People are like, yeah, give me 
more information. 

915
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:22,240
But in a strange way, I actually
like the rain and the cold, you 

916
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,840
know, through work and the 
business I've set up. 

917
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920
I've, I've just rented somewhere
here in Belfast for the next 6 

918
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,080
months. 
So we'll be back two weeks every

919
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,240
month. 
And I actually like walking up 

920
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,120
the lag and it sounds strange, 
but when it's raining, when it's

921
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,560
cold, getting hopped up because 
it's it's going to sound 

922
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,360
strange, but it actually is. 
Sometimes it's just too warm, 

923
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,720
especially July, August, the 
heat's, the heat's unbearable 

924
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,280
and. 
When we come out the, you know, 

925
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,040
do the episode and and shoot it,
like where will we do it? 

926
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,960
We'll want to like show people. 
That's when we're in being like 

927
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,360
in some sort of nice setup where
we're where we're going. 

928
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,040
There's a nice pier just just 
down. 

929
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,360
This was was was set up on that 
again, A place in the sun does 

930
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,000
it all the time. 
They have all the gear. 

931
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,560
They set it all up. 
So great beer restaurant, just 

932
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,800
stones like we, we rocks out. 
We'll set up there. 

933
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,080
I'm thinking, I'm thinking 
April, May, but maybe that's 

934
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,040
optimistic. 
No. 

935
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Well, like Ian, I think once the
vaccine's rolled out and people 

936
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,520
start getting it, then we have 
closed one of sold one of the 

937
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,480
bars as I said to you off 
earlier, but one of them 

938
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,920
realistically we're not going to
open the March I think and we're

939
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,320
going to have a bumper year. 
A lot of people because they've 

940
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,520
been locked up and on lockdowns.
My wife Debbie, she runs the 

941
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,720
rental end of the business and a
lot of people are saying like 

942
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,440
can we have three weeks this 
year instead of the normal 2. 

943
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,840
So I think once we get sort of 
March every time, you should be 

944
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,200
all right. 
Yeah, Excellent. 

945
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Need to pack those yellow 
speedos and yeah, think about 

946
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,040
those now. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

947
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Jerry, thanks so much for coming
on the podcast. 

948
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,320
Appreciate. 
We'll put a link into the 

949
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,640
business as well. 
Please. 

950
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,400
People can just have a, you 
know, dream about a place in 

951
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,800
Spain. 
Fantastic. 

952
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,720
Excellent. 
Cheers, Jerry. 

953
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:07,400
Thank. 
You.