1
00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,040
I'm Michael Che. 
And I'm Colin Jose, and we've 

2
00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,200
got a little secret. 
Actually, it's a pretty big 

3
00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,400
secret. 
Well, now you got to give the 

4
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,320
people something. 
I'm not saying a word. 

5
00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,840
Oh, then people won't know to 
tune in. 

6
00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,000
Come on, tell them a little. 
Like our hosting of comedy 

7
00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,560
events streaming only on 
Peacock, exactly how it's called

8
00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,160
New York After Dark and it's a 
comedy show that only features 

9
00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,080
drop in comic. 
Boom, you nail into. 

10
00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:21,920
Michael Che's phone numbers. 
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey.

11
00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,640
New York After Dark. 
It's some kind of comedy thing, 

12
00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,000
and it's streaming now only on 
Peacock. 

13
00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:37,000
You love it. 
Zippers, welcome to this episode

14
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,840
of the Tea with Me podcast. 
With me, she and Todd. 

15
00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,760
Before we get into it, got a 
guest interview today. 

16
00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,160
Before we start, let me plug our
sponsors kicking off with 

17
00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:47,760
Thompson. 
Thompson's tea. 

18
00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,600
They're the family behind 
Panjana. 

19
00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,280
They've been making tea since 
the 1800s, which is crazy that 

20
00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,960
at no point you would have 
stopped. 

21
00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,440
You would think one generation 
will go, I'll do something else,

22
00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,160
you know. 
But no, the Thompson family are 

23
00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,240
just knobbers for tea. 
They were doing it since 1800s. 

24
00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,480
They'll be doing it for another.
However, I'm at the time it was 

25
00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,680
between then and I. 
In 1000 years time, there'll be 

26
00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,840
nothing but cockroaches. 
But still the Thompson's family 

27
00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,480
will be serving tea to those 
cockroaches and they will drink 

28
00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,680
panjana because panjana, as we 
know, is Northern Ireland's 

29
00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,840
number one selling tea or 
whatever. 

30
00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,120
You know, let's take the 
politics, right? 

31
00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,240
Or whatever you want to call 
this part of the, the world. 

32
00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,920
The only thing we can't agree on
is pyjamas, the number one 

33
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,760
selling tea here. 
I've got no discount code. 

34
00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,720
I've got nothing to refer you 
to, just to say keep drinking 

35
00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,120
panjana because the Thompson 
family are so enthusiastic about

36
00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,280
tea. 
They've made pyjama and it's the

37
00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,120
best around. 
You know, we've called out all 

38
00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,840
the other tea brands in the last
few weeks and we will continue 

39
00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,640
to do so. 
What's the one that isn't maybe 

40
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,480
local? 
Who haven't we done? 

41
00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,800
Twinings Wankers. 
Complete bell ends twine. 

42
00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,920
How much? 
All my twat. 

43
00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,200
You can picture what the 
Twinings people look like. 

44
00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,560
Very small glasses, very small, 
quite far down the nose. 

45
00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,080
Fucking hate those guys. 
Keep drinking banjana. 

46
00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,000
Also we're sponsored by 
Manscaped. 

47
00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,040
Like you know that the pubic 
hairs on the way out manscaped 

48
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,560
is the number one in men's below
the belt grooming and it's the 

49
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,240
best way to take care of 
yourself down there using the 

50
00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,080
the lawnmower 4 point O because 
you know, people are still using

51
00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,760
very outdated methods for 
getting rid of the pubic hair. 

52
00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:39,000
You know, there's guys you know,
you know, your dad's going down 

53
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,360
to bonfires the day after the 
12th or the 11th. 

54
00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,640
He's going down on the 12th. 
He is going down the 13th, which

55
00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:48,640
is too long after and he waits 
until there's just a wee bit of 

56
00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,600
embers left. 
And you know what he does? 

57
00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,360
He takes his treasure pants down
and he squats down over a 

58
00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,360
bonfire and and hope that he can
singe this. 

59
00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,680
It's a stupid way to do it and 
he needs to stop. 

60
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,440
He needs to stop. 
You know, there's all different 

61
00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,720
kind of ways, you know, your 
dowels. 

62
00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,920
So like he'll, you know, tie a 
little bit of string to his 

63
00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:10,440
pubes and like a ponytail, tie 
that to the back of a car and 

64
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,480
get your mom that, you know, 
drive down the street. 

65
00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,840
It's a stupid way to do it. 
What you need is a lawnmower. 4 

66
00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,320
point though, Manscaped is all 
these products from men's groom 

67
00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,040
and going to manscaped.com. 
Use a Co Tea with me for 20% off

68
00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,600
and free shipping. 
And by their performance 

69
00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360
package, difficult ball 
cleanser, ball deodorant, ball 

70
00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,200
wipes, then this is genuinely 
true. 

71
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,720
You know my thing, I'm making 
this up, but that's what it is. 

72
00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,760
Tea with me for 20% off and free
shipping. 

73
00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,080
Also going to plug Patreon which
is patreon.com/tea with me 

74
00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,000
podcast. 
We do a bonus episode on a 

75
00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,360
Monday. 
On Friday we do a live stream 

76
00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,360
and there's all exclusive kind 
of stuff. 

77
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,200
And the last thing I have the 
plug, I can see dancer stressed 

78
00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,480
in case I don't do this is our 
new mugs. 

79
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,440
Now that's a big mug, right? 
I don't have small hands. 

80
00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,480
That's massive hands and that's 
a big, strong, sturdy mug. 

81
00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,560
We spent a long time getting the
prototype right and these are 

82
00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,080
now on sale on Shopify. 
When we put the link in the 

83
00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,760
description done, we'll put the 
link in the description for 

84
00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,920
these brand new mugs. 
Now that's out of the way, 

85
00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,560
speak. 
Crazy. 

86
00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,760
Can I go home now? 
What long was that? 

87
00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,240
They're sick. 
My guest who seems to not take 

88
00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360
pubic hair seriously. 
Can I just say this is a lovely 

89
00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,160
cup of Barry's tea? 
Barry's the finest tea in 

90
00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,280
Ireland. 
Tea loving. 

91
00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,960
The Barry family there. 
No, if you start, if you start a

92
00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,680
tea based podcast sponsored by 
Barry's, it's going to be war. 

93
00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000
My guest today is a returning 
guest. 

94
00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,200
The last time we did this was 
over Zoom in the middle. 

95
00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,440
Oh yes, in the middle of the 
bedroom. 

96
00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,960
Back in those you what? 
It was in my bedroom. 

97
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,440
Oh, were you? 
Yeah, I didn't know that. 

98
00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,880
That's a very sinister element 
to it. 

99
00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,640
What? 
I only saw your top half. 

100
00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,960
I presume there was nothing on 
the bottom. 

101
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,400
There was absolutely nothing on 
the bottom, you know, I was 

102
00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,480
looking at my nether regions and
going do I need to shave this or

103
00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,000
do I need to trim this or does 
the future time? 

104
00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:00,920
It's a future view I fellas. 
Like maybe we just let it go. 

105
00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,680
No. 
No, let it go, let it go. 

106
00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,160
Whatever colour grey down there,
whatever hats, just let it go. 

107
00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,520
Let's do a live sharing and 
we'll put it on our patrol page.

108
00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,840
There's a website for everybody.
Tim McGarry is my is my 

109
00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,640
returning guest. 
Tim, I said it to you before you

110
00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560
came in here. 
You're the 1st guest that has 

111
00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,560
got to the studio on time in the
right place. 

112
00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,000
Everyone just rings. 
Me made them in the middle of 

113
00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,520
Hollywood somewhere. 
I have to walk down and meet 

114
00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,720
them. 
But that's experience because 

115
00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,040
you just, you knew where we 
were. 

116
00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,520
Yeah, I didn't even use a sat 
NAV. 

117
00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,560
You told me it's at #10 High 
Street. 

118
00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,240
So I looked for number 10 High 
Street and. 

119
00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,360
Yeah. 
The number There's numbers in 

120
00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,040
the doors. 
And beep out our address and in 

121
00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,960
case we. 
Get murdered. 

122
00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,560
How stupid are your guests if 
you had on this? 

123
00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,560
Too many dimension, Too many 
dimension. 

124
00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,320
Tim, we're back out. 
You know, we're not doing Zoom 

125
00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,680
stuff. 
Are you still doing anything on 

126
00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:51,840
Zoom? 
I hate Zoom. 

127
00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:53,920
No. 
We're hoping Blame Games back in

128
00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,080
November and we're hoping, 
hoping against hope we get a 

129
00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,080
live audience into the studio 
because we did a couple of 

130
00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,840
series with the Zoom audience 
and so. 

131
00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,040
How was this explaining how that
works? 

132
00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,000
Because wasn't there like an 
audience in a cinema or 

133
00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,080
something? 
That that was, we did a pilot, 

134
00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,680
we did a pilot episode to see 
how it worked and we had 90 

135
00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,800
people in a cinema who were 
watching it live and then we 

136
00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,040
could hear their so they were 
watching it live and laughing 

137
00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,800
and we're recording them and 
then feeding it back to the 

138
00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,160
studio. 
Did it work? 

139
00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,360
It did, except there was a 2 
second delay. 

140
00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:28,080
So you made a joke dictating 
fuck, that joke hasn't landed. 

141
00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,680
And then I'm all right, I'm all 
right. 

142
00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,040
So it was it was quite weird, 
you know, because you know the 

143
00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:39,120
way you're, you see, you make a 
punch line, you go, well, come 

144
00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,360
on, come on, react here. 
What the fuck? 

145
00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,840
What the fuck? 
It was a bit strange, but it did

146
00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,720
it worked. 
It actually, you know, we kind 

147
00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,760
of got used to it and then we 
weren't allowed in the centre in

148
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,360
the cinema anymore. 
So we only had a, we had a very 

149
00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,400
tiny sort of with a few 
volunteers basically sitting in 

150
00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,120
a room beside the studio who 
helped out laughter. 

151
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680
And then the Zoom audience would
about 3 or 400 people on the 

152
00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,000
Zoom. 
But you can't get a react 

153
00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,600
because everybody's picking 
their nose or you know, they're 

154
00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,800
not, some of them are muted and 
all of that. 

155
00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,200
It's all a bit strange shows, 
but it was like doing a podcast.

156
00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,440
That's the only way we could do 
it was to go. 

157
00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,800
There is no audience here. 
There is no energy here. 

158
00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,480
Well, we. 
We have an audience here. 

159
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,200
He's called Tony. 
He's Tony just said no, he's 

160
00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800
good. 
He's a great audience member. 

161
00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,760
He's Tony looking guy. 
His laugh. 

162
00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,720
There is it. 
Come on, Tony, no pressure. 

163
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,080
How? 
Weird. 

164
00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,240
Is it doing like the likes of a 
comedy show? 

165
00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,280
Like Blame Game to to no 
audience. 

166
00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,360
It's horrible. 
It's the end. 

167
00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,440
It really is awful. 
Do you feel like you burn 

168
00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,440
through stuff quicker? 
Because obviously when the 

169
00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880
audience are laughing, yeah, 
you're pausing and that sort of 

170
00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,200
thing. 
And you know, you know, there 

171
00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,240
are jokes that you'd write that 
are better than other jokes. 

172
00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,200
And yeah, this is going to, this
is really going to hit them. 

173
00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,520
You know, they're like that. 
We bet there. 

174
00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,720
And we're here to get this bit. 
And there's going to be and 

175
00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,400
there's, there's and your heart 
just stinks. 

176
00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,840
You go my best bet. 
See, see, like, I don't know 

177
00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,680
whether it was 10 years ago or 
more. 

178
00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,400
Was there, am I wrong? 
Was there a time when you 

179
00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,720
weren't the host of the blame 
game? 

180
00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,160
And then there was this huge 
public thing of like, were 

181
00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,640
rioting, get him back in the 
blame game because it was guest 

182
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,400
host, right? 
Yeah, well, thanks for bringing 

183
00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,840
it up. 
It's a very, very sore point. 

184
00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400
It's kind of one of those 
moments in my life that I really

185
00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,640
don't want to talk about because
it's really quite hurtful. 

186
00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:33,480
And it was exactly 10 years ago.
It's the anniversary and I was 

187
00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,159
sacked for no particular reason.
But no, there was no public 

188
00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:37,919
outcry. 
It was just that all the the the

189
00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,520
ones they had were a bit shit. 
No, there was a public outcome 

190
00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,480
there there. 
There genuinely was because I 

191
00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,920
remember there was like a 
Facebook. 

192
00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,800
It was like a whole Facebook 
campaign of like, get him back. 

193
00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,360
Well, I certainly didn't start 
that. 

194
00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,360
OK, no, that wasn't me behind 
that and my phone. 

195
00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:58,000
No, I it was it was they just 
wanted to mix it up a bit and 

196
00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,960
they they looked at have I got 
News for you and thought this is

197
00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,800
a brilliant idea. 
We'll get guest hosts like Have 

198
00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,840
I got news for you do. 
And the only point is this is 

199
00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,080
Northern Ireland, not London, 
where you can get a listers 

200
00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,520
doing nothing. 30 and we end up 
with me Mcveberry junk. 

201
00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,280
But it ended up just being like 
people's uncles, you know? 

202
00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,400
It's just like Lambert, but 
yeah. 

203
00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:23,120
No, but I mean, I love somebody 
when I was stating that was 

204
00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,120
great. 
Anytime I rate because their 

205
00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,760
Twitter accounts really good. 
Have I got news for you? 

206
00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,400
And anytime I read any of their 
tweets, which are jokes all the 

207
00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,040
time, Yeah, I hear it in Angus 
Deaton's voice and like, you're 

208
00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,920
the blame game in my head. 
You know what I mean? 

209
00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120
Well, that's very kind of you. 
But eventually they they saw 

210
00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,000
their way back and let me back 
after, I think it was about a 

211
00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,720
year or so, they did a radio 
series with me. 

212
00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,560
William Crawley did some and 
it's quite funny speak to speak 

213
00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:48,840
to Neil and Colin Murphy about 
William Crawley, who just kind 

214
00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,280
of said, you can't say that 
that's that's not true. 

215
00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,200
And they go, yeah, it's a joke. 
It's not Talkback where you're 

216
00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,600
allowed to say things that 
aren't true. 

217
00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,200
If we if we Fact Check people's 
comedy and stuff, you would 

218
00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,840
never want to say. 
There's woke and there's fact 

219
00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,280
checking as well. 
Yeah, Jesus. 

220
00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,520
So how many? 
You've been doing the blame game

221
00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,520
for like, what, 15 years? 
Typhoo. 

222
00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,600
Actually, no, that's what it. 
Is Typhoo? 

223
00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,520
I forgot to call them. 
Sorry. 

224
00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,480
Blame game. 
For how long? 

225
00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,600
15 years? 
Oh. 

226
00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,520
God, it could be. 
Yeah, Yeah, it could be. 

227
00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,920
Yeah. 
Something like that. 

228
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,720
It's got to tell you. 
My my wife. 

229
00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:28,960
I love my wife. 
The bits, obviously. 

230
00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,400
Where's this going? 
Never listen about the four. 

231
00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,760
Never. 
Never let your wave get involved

232
00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,720
in your career. 
I was. 

233
00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,760
I was asked to do a pilot by 
Jackie Hamilton on a Monday 

234
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,200
night. 
So he said, oh come, somebody'd 

235
00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,280
fall night, will you do this Wii
Radio pilot for me and my wife 

236
00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,680
said, Jackie, Jackie Hamilton 
needs you, get you to come down 

237
00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,320
to the club all the time and all
of that. 

238
00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,920
Sure, he probably won't even pay
you and all that. 

239
00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,280
I said, no, I'll do Jackie if 
you ever go down and do this. 

240
00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,760
We we radio pilot and it was a 
radio pilot for the blame game, 

241
00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,840
as was the very first version of
it. 

242
00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,880
And there was a pilot done. 
And then there took a few years 

243
00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,960
before it became proper radio 
series and stuff. 

244
00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,160
So my wife always said, all 
right, OK, Thirteen years later,

245
00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,360
he said never give me any advice
in my career. 

246
00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,360
Do. 
You know who, out of interest, 

247
00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,600
You know who was supposed to do 
it? 

248
00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,200
Yes, it was supposed to be 
Dennis Murray. 

249
00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,560
Bizarre because it started off 
as a kind of serious, quasi 

250
00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:25,520
serious, not quite a comedy 
show. 

251
00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:28,320
It was kind of Dennis Murray was
supposed to do it, see a 

252
00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,440
journalist or something. 
Or Dennis Murray, the political 

253
00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,200
correspondent for BBC Northern 
Art. 

254
00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,360
You don't know who Dennis Murray
is. 

255
00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,760
I feel bad. 
Apologies all the Dennis Murray 

256
00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,960
fans out there. 
Right. 

257
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,000
Yeah. 
Dennis Murray. 

258
00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,760
Yeah, kind of well, toward 
always. 

259
00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,720
He's got quite a Troubles 
journey, but he's a Troubles 

260
00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,000
journalist and all that. 
But he's a pretty serious heavy 

261
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,640
hitter. 
And then there was a crisis 

262
00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,960
happened in the peace proof, 
somebody gets shatters on me, 

263
00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,800
you know, Northern Ireland, and 
he decided he couldn't do it. 

264
00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,240
I have a feeling tend the way 
things have worked out I feel. 

265
00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,880
You might have done it, yes I 
was going right doing drive by 

266
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,040
shootings and the waifors go 
don't bother ours but this isn't

267
00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,040
going nowhere way so blame game.
Stupid name anyway. 

268
00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,320
I remember because the blame, 
like I think I just started 

269
00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,880
doing stand up when the blame 
game started. 

270
00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,720
Yeah, probably like that year, 
probably 14-15 years ago. 

271
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,880
And it was like the thing that 
as a comedian you wanted to be 

272
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,160
because you were all stand ups. 
So it was like this is stand ups

273
00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,080
doing jokes on TV. 
Well, I'm not. 

274
00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,720
I came in a different way. 
I do a better stand up, but I 

275
00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,360
came out from it from a 
different angle. 

276
00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,440
But yeah, initially it was quite
structured and there were rounds

277
00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,680
and all sorts of things and 
there were, you know, past the 

278
00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:39,040
buck and there was a music 
round. 

279
00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,800
And then this is the early 
stages. 

280
00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,640
I took a couple of series before
we got the what's the point of 

281
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,280
this show? 
The point of issue is wanted 

282
00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,560
talk about the news and 
comedians be funny about the 

283
00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,520
news and take all the crap out 
of it and go right, Have four or

284
00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,080
five topics and go right. 
Who's to blame for them this 

285
00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,760
week? 
And then it's a free for all. 

286
00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,920
Basically somebody starts it 
off, does a couple of minutes 

287
00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,280
and then it's a free for all. 
And it works a treat because 

288
00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000
it's it's simple. 
You've been doing a couple, 

289
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,560
you've been to recordings and 
you've been on it. 

290
00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,120
So we record for about an hour 
and 1/4 an hour and a half and 

291
00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,880
cut it down to how far and 
people are the thing, things. 

292
00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,800
You get all the flipping time. 
Is it prepared? 

293
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800
Well, it's TV, of course. 
There's a bit of preparation. 

294
00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,040
You have to prepare. 
But nobody knows what anybody 

295
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,840
else is going to say. 
They don't know my script. 

296
00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,880
I don't know what Neil Delamere 
is going to say. 

297
00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,480
Column. 
Everything comes on the back of 

298
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,640
Neil Delamere and everybody 
chips in and stuff. 

299
00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,000
Yeah. 
So there is spot. 

300
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000
It's it's preparated. 
It's prepared to a certain 

301
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,120
extent. 
You have to have some. 

302
00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,080
Yeah, but not the point. 
Where it's obviously like having

303
00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,760
done the Radio One, it's not. 
Scripted. 

304
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,120
No, but it's not just like well 
my but just scripted. 

305
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,280
The links are scripted because 
the cameraman I'm going to this 

306
00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,760
part and then I'm going to but 
if you didn't. 

307
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,560
Structure in a way surely that 
that recording will go on for 

308
00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,960
five hours 5. 
Six hours and it would, yeah, 

309
00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,840
wouldn't be funny. 
But I, yeah, I did the Radio 1 

310
00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,840
and I didn't have a good one. 
And I was supposed to do like a 

311
00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,200
bit. 
I was like, you know, because 

312
00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,400
you'd probably sit down and go, 
who's got a thing on this? 

313
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760
And I remember going, I've got a
thing on this and I think my 

314
00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,360
thing was on Conor McGregor. 
So it was like, and I never done

315
00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,680
a panel show. 
So quite nervous. 

316
00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,680
And you were hosting and we did 
it in QFT, might even. 

317
00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,160
Cure. 
Some cure was a bank or 

318
00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,360
something. 
No, it was in Belfast and it was

319
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,760
just not like the the audience 
just weren't for some reason it 

320
00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,160
wasn't packed out and the 
audience just weren't really 

321
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,560
into and I was really nervous 
and I remember like, I've got to

322
00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,680
have this Conor McGregor bit and
I practised it and all this in 

323
00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,960
my head. 
And then you bring up Conor 

324
00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,400
McGregor and then I'm sort of 
sitting there just like looking 

325
00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,040
at the audience and you're and 
you again mention Conor McGregor

326
00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,760
and then you and she and you 
have something to say about 

327
00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,320
Conor McGregor. 
I was like, Oh yeah, 

328
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,720
spontaneous. 
Yeah. 

329
00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,360
But when, when blame game 
started, when I first started 

330
00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,280
doing stand up and blame game 
started, I didn't realise that 

331
00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,680
you know, the guests who were 
coming on the comedian guests 

332
00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,640
were well established circuit 
comedians, well known people. 

333
00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840
I in my head I thought well I do
stand up because I've done 1 gig

334
00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,200
so I'd like to get on that. 
So I emailed Jackie Hamilton and

335
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,800
said I still have the e-mail and
I said hi Jackie, my name is she

336
00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,240
and I've done a couple of gigs. 
You need anyone for the show, 

337
00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,800
let me know, I'll be available. 
And to be fair, he responded and

338
00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,040
said fuck off. 
No he didn't. 

339
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,400
He didn't he. 
Wouldn't he's a lovely. 

340
00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,720
Man, he said, he said thanks 
very much for the offer. 

341
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,280
He goes, we're booked up for the
series, but keep going with 

342
00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,880
stand up. 
And that's really nice to get a 

343
00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,560
reply. 
But even when I got that reply, 

344
00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,800
which was clearly just out of 
plainness in my head, I was 

345
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,280
going, I'll probably get on the 
series like he's saying that, 

346
00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,280
but you know, I'm probably 
coming on as a guest. 

347
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,200
And then thirteen years later, I
did the radio with. 

348
00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,200
Michael McIntyre was on. 
It's Michael McIntyre, the radio

349
00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,200
show before he, before she, 
before he was famous Sir and 

350
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,280
Milliken did it. 
John Bishops first ever TV show 

351
00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,120
was the blame game. 
And so we've had a lot, quite a 

352
00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,200
lot of people. 
You know, Michael McIntyre was 

353
00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,320
very was on the wall at the 
time. 

354
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,920
Yeah, I was going to say what 
makes a good guest on it, 

355
00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,160
because sometimes you see people
with the profile they just don't

356
00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160
collect with like the panel. 
I I. 

357
00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,760
Couldn't be a guest on it. 
I not a stand up I I do Well, 

358
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,920
no, I came out a different way. 
I came out stand up from doing 

359
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,200
the give me headpiece and stuff 
like that and writing writing 

360
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,000
sketches and stuff like that. 
So I kind of ended up having to 

361
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,200
do it. 
But I couldn't be as spontaneous

362
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,360
as Willy as those guys are. 
Give me 1/2 an hour 1 Conor 

363
00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,760
McGregor. 
I'll come back to you with two 

364
00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,520
two good minutes on Conor 
McGregor. 

365
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,040
But just through Conor McGregor.
I couldn't I couldn't do it. 

366
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,520
It does take a bit of spoiler 
and it takes natural width and 

367
00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,120
all of that and some of the 
problems with the guests that 

368
00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,000
arrive in the blame game is all 
the time I get all the shows 

369
00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,160
great. 
You don't need those English 

370
00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,480
people. 
They don't get us and all that 

371
00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,200
Well they do they. 
I mean a lot of them are very, 

372
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,280
very good. 
Yeah, yeah. 

373
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760
You need to be you need to be on
top of your game. 

374
00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,320
You need to have plenty of 
material, you need to join in 

375
00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,440
and you need to be open and 
receptive and you need to go 

376
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,560
with the flow and stuff like 
that. 

377
00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,160
And some English comedians do 
come over and go, right, well, 

378
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,240
I've got my bit. 
I'll say my bit and I'll shut 

379
00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,840
up. 
There are some English comedians

380
00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840
who in the past who've come over
and been a bit arrogant about it

381
00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,920
and thinking this is only a 
local show, these guys. 

382
00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,079
Yes, I'll wing it. 
I'll wing it. 

383
00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,480
And then they find out that in 
fact, we're quite good at what 

384
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,599
we do. 
You can tell sometimes they do 

385
00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,839
like in Northern Ireland accent 
and then they're looking at the 

386
00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:13,119
audience. 
This is all I prepared. 

387
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,119
I was hoping this would get 
enough, you know, But it it's 

388
00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,599
great. 
Yeah. 

389
00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,400
I mean, the fact that's been 
going for like for for so long 

390
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,440
and, you know, you're saying 
about coming in the stand up 

391
00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,599
from a different way. 
Like genuinely like you're one 

392
00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:27,200
of my favourite comedians here 
to watch. 

393
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,280
I love watching. 
You do stand up very good. 

394
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,320
Do you? 
Yeah. 

395
00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,680
Yeah. 
Do you know what? 

396
00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,000
You're one of my favourite sets 
and like I know the last five 

397
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,360
years that I've seen when you 
did pugs for Dave and you 

398
00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,480
headlined and it was just it was
great. 

399
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,000
Like because you know, you see a
lot of stand up and even like 

400
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000
you're good mates to do 
something. 

401
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,880
You don't always stay and watch,
You know, you're talking to 

402
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,440
someone backstage or like you 
know, you're doing Class A drugs

403
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,960
or whatever. 
But but when you're on stage, I 

404
00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,400
make sure I make sure all. 
My Class A drugs. 

405
00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,800
I was just smelling them. 
I was just smelling them. 

406
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,720
That's it. 
But but yeah, I mean, it's, it's

407
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,000
strange to me that like you 
don't consider your well, maybe 

408
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,840
you do, but like you're, but 
you're like top class headliner.

409
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,640
Well, I've done a couple of one 
man shoes and stuff and I did 

410
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,080
like that they've done pugs a 
couple of time for Dave. 

411
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,440
How is Dave? 
Is he OK by the way? 

412
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:17,360
Look, he's back in. 
He's. 

413
00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,120
Back. 
In but I think this weekend he's

414
00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:22,800
getting out there's. 
So much money, social services 

415
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,320
and probation and all waste on 
that. 

416
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,280
It's just one mile. 
How much does this man cost the 

417
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,640
entire well? 
You know what? 

418
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,640
You know what's so funny about? 
If anyone's aware of this back 

419
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,880
and forth between you and Dave, 
what's so funny about it is it 

420
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,560
just totally came out of nowhere
because you did the they started

421
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,280
lockdown and we're talking about
Dave in general. 

422
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,400
And you were like, yeah, you 
know, as long as he's over this 

423
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,160
terrible drug habit. 
And I phoned Dave because we 

424
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,480
speak like every single day, a 
couple of times a day. 

425
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,680
I had just like nothing. 
And I phoned him. 

426
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,800
He said, how was the podcast? 
And I said it was great. 

427
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,920
I said Tim did a really funny 
bit where he said you take all 

428
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,920
these drugs. 
And Dave was like, why they say 

429
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,200
that? 
He just did and it's been going 

430
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,000
on for but in denial. 
Basically was in denial, but 

431
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,240
accept it. 
But but you know, I think you go

432
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520
in public with it helped 
actually helped them a lot, I 

433
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:12,800
think. 
Well, it's good of you to phone 

434
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,600
them every day because I think 
that that will help ground them,

435
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,520
you know? 
It will help them, you know, you

436
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,280
know, because I know those other
people need a break as well, the

437
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,200
people around them, you know. 
So thanks for that. 

438
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,560
Thanks for that. 
It got to the point where I 

439
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,800
remember being Dave did a 
podcast together and someone 

440
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,760
wrote under it like, yeah, great
to see this guy still do a 

441
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:36,080
podcast despite his major drug. 
There's like no, no, no, this is

442
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,200
a good but but that Pogs gig was
was great because I'm sure like,

443
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,560
you know, there's there's 
there's the TV sort of stand up 

444
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,280
circuit and the one man shows 
and that sort of thing. 

445
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,240
But then there is a real good 
grassroots stand up scene here. 

446
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,280
And because you do so much TV 
stuff, you maybe don't get to go

447
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,960
to those gigs as often, so. 
That must be fun when you was a 

448
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760
lovely weekend as well. 
Nice low ceiling and nice weak 

449
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,120
crowd and I was trying stuff out
as well. 

450
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,160
And you there's a release and 
that kind of thing, and you get 

451
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,320
to shout and you get to swear 
more than you normally do in 

452
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,360
the, you know, and you get the 
venture spleen and stuff. 

453
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,320
But also with that, I was trying
out new stuff because I I don't 

454
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,880
do, I do bits and pieces. 
I do quite a few corporates and 

455
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,440
after dinners and stuff. 
Yeah, yeah. 

456
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,880
I know because I tend to. 
If you can't make it, I tend to 

457
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,920
get a phone call. 
You get my leftover. 

458
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I'm more than happy with that. 

459
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,760
Yeah, kind of the Meat Exporters
Association of Monster, sort of 

460
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,680
thing. 
The Pipeline Industry Guild, the

461
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,600
Chartered Institute of 
Management Accountants. 

462
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,760
That was the war. 
I've done that. 

463
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,320
Of your. 
I've done that. 

464
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,440
It was in the merchant and they 
were standing for it, but they 

465
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,120
were all at the back of the room
and I'm like, you know, 50 feet 

466
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,080
the other side of the room. 
And they always go at those 

467
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,080
things and they're always, for 
the most niche things, always 

468
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,640
go, do you have a wee bit about 
whatever it is they do? 

469
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,080
And you're like, no, I don't 
have a bit about chlorine, you 

470
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,760
know what I mean? 
I don't have a bit about 

471
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,120
chemicals. 
Yeah, I did one for the Crohn's 

472
00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:03,640
Disease Association, Crohn's. 
Disease. 

473
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,840
Why the fuck I've got that? 
Why would I not be getting the 

474
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,240
book for that? 
I've got, I've legitimately got 

475
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,000
Crohn's disease. 
Why they're not booking me for 

476
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,800
that? 
Well. 

477
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:17,280
Hello. 
But they also give me the worst 

478
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,400
introduction ever I've ever had 
that a gig. 

479
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,240
And I was standing at the back 
of the hall and there was a 

480
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,080
woman made a very impassioned 
speech about Crohn's disease and

481
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,760
other diseases and how it 
affects your life and bloody, 

482
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,120
bloody blood. 
And she finished her speech and 

483
00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:31,960
she shuffled her papers together
and she looked down with, I 

484
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,360
think it's the comedian now. 
And then she walked off stage. 

485
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,640
That was the fucking 
introduction. 

486
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840
So I went off and took the piss 
out of her. 

487
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,720
And Crohn's disease and sick 
people for a long time went down

488
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000
very well. 
Yeah, I mean, it's genuinely 

489
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,160
I've got Crohn's. 
Yeah. 

490
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,960
So you did that whole thing, 
Yes, Yeah, Yeah, Sorry. 

491
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,640
Yeah. 
The show can I. 

492
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,520
The show is called Sick Bruno. 
Sick man. 

493
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:08,480
What is sick? 
You know, like sick would be 

494
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,720
like a slang for like, that's 
sick. 

495
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,200
I don't want to be described 
this sick man like the worst 

496
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,360
avenger. 
I'm just, I'm just fatigued. 

497
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,880
That's my main superpower. 
It's just chilling on the sofa. 

498
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,640
Are you? 
Sick enough to have a DLA car 

499
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:24,920
or? 
You. 

500
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,920
No, but that's the dream. 
That's the dream. 

501
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,560
Like, I mean, AP, No, Yeah. 
Different, yeah, no, I've got 

502
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,280
Crohn's disease. 
So if they if they are looking 

503
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,000
anyone to do it, I would say 
because I have it, I wouldn't do

504
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,600
for a fee, but I think I'll be 
looking for a more generous, you

505
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,160
know, because I also have it. 
But yeah, I've got fucking 10 

506
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,960
minutes on Crohn's disease. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

507
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,240
Corporate intros or some of the 
worst. 

508
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,040
And they you know the way if I'm
bringing, you said you bring me,

509
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,160
you know, you get it for the 
name you give a Tim McGarry. 

510
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,560
You know, it's a wee bit of 
they. 

511
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,720
Lie 1st and say this is a great 
friend to Mary. 

512
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,120
He's brilliant and bloody black.
He's the best we could afford. 

513
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,320
They never go. 
Up they just. 

514
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,400
To McGarry and then take ages to
get off stage. 

515
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,160
There's any time people say well
I go up and say something before

516
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,160
me. 
I go yeah, I just say my name 

517
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,200
and then you know, you give your
speech after. 

518
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,400
I don't The one of the worst 
ones I did was sometimes it's 

519
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,920
because you're going on to such 
a cold room or they don't know 

520
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,080
there's going to be stand up. 
But I did one in Titanic and 

521
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,040
they were going to have a raffle
beforehand. 

522
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,760
So they said we're going to do a
raffle. 

523
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,200
Will we do that before you or 
after? 

524
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,840
Will you do the raffle? 
And I said, yeah, I'll, I'll do 

525
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,880
it after my set. 
Did my set, didn't get a lot, 50

526
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,160
minutes set, didn't get a lot of
laughs. 

527
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,520
Did the raffle. 
And then anyone who worked there

528
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,280
was coming up to collect prizes.
So as they came up, I was taking

529
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,480
the piss a bit, having a bit of 
back and forth that that was 

530
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,720
like the highlight. 
So if I had done the raffle 

531
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,000
first, the stand up would have 
been great. 

532
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,520
But sometimes the great I'm 
cursed at slave donor. 

533
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,600
Any corporate event I do in 
sleeved honoured is the worst 

534
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,880
and I don't know why. 
Yeah, there are some hotels you 

535
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,160
go. 
I really don't want to be in 

536
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440
this hotel. 
Yeah, But have you spoken to 

537
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,040
John Lennon? 
May Mcfett? 

538
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,640
John, I thought you said John 
Lennon. 

539
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,880
Yeah, Miss John. 
John. 

540
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Not well, but I do know. 

541
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,920
Our line 100 May's great, great 
stories and you know the way 

542
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,360
some corporates we were talking 
about corporates and the worst 

543
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,600
corporate you've ever done. 
He came out with his great lives

544
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,080
since I was once warmed up with 
a rap What I was doing a gig. 

545
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,080
I was supposed to do a gig. 
I was supposed to be on stage 

546
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,160
and just before I was about to 
be going on stage, a guy I'm 

547
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,240
woolly faces said they're rather
here to make a statement so they

548
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,960
come out on stage. 
Shane taught us 24 hours to 

549
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,440
leave a country. 
Fucking Dave. 

550
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,600
You go with it too Dave, If you 
don't stop with those drugs, I 

551
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,960
swear to God where I told you 
mate how many times Dave Elliott

552
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,800
last warning and I mate 
Mcfetter. 

553
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,280
What's the what's that like? 
Because we all do good gigs, we 

554
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,600
all do bad gigs, but what stands
out as being like the worst time

555
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,440
you've ever had on stage? 
I did a corporate and I had to 

556
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,800
go away down to County Mayo to 
do it for an English firm which 

557
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,200
was run by a woman from Northern
Ireland who knew me and liked 

558
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,760
me. 
But it was for a bunch of 

559
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,440
English guys who came over from 
Leeds and they'd been on a 

560
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,320
drunken weekend and they wanted 
Roy Chubby Brown. 

561
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,440
Yeah. 
They didn't want anything to do,

562
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,120
certainly with no now, now I 
knew it wasn't. 

563
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,800
I wasn't going to do my hero. 
They were all from Leeds, my Jim

564
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,040
Allister gags, you know, Jimmy 
Bryson. 

565
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800
It wasn't like that. 
So I, you know, I teared it to 

566
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760
them but they were all 
completely hammered and they 

567
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,120
really didn't want me. 
They wanted knob jokes and 

568
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,720
stuff. 
And I, I don't talk about my 

569
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,640
sex, like I don't like to boast 
and all that stuff. 

570
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,120
I just, you know, I did about 
two minutes in. 

571
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,960
I thought this is the worst gig 
of my life. 

572
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,920
And they were really hate. 
They were quite aggressive 

573
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,560
about, you know, I just really 
wanted me off and I got 

574
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,920
pigheaded and I went fuck you, 
I'm going to do my 20 minutes. 

575
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,360
Yeah, just you annoy them. 
Planting the feet. 

576
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,800
And I was doing like there was a
woman from Belfast and one other

577
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,240
person with her who were 
laughing at me. 

578
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,720
And then there were, it wasn't a
big gig. 

579
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,880
It was a well, very well paid. 
It wasn't a big gig. 

580
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,440
It was about 30 of them, right? 
And they all hated me and I just

581
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440
did it anyway. 
I did the 2025 minutes that I 

582
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040
had to do. 
But then I was staying in the 

583
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,440
hotel and I couldn't avoid them.
The next day they were all over 

584
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,920
the hotel and go, well, Gary is 
it couldn't have and it still 

585
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,680
scarred me. 
God, no. 

586
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,360
So I know your audiences. 
I like to like, you know, go in,

587
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,200
go out for those gigs, not to 
hang about, but like stay in 

588
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,960
hotel with. 
I can think of nothing worse. 

589
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,240
I won't stay for a dinner ever. 
You don't? 

590
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760
No, don't. 
I get too nervous beforehand. 

591
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:45,040
If I'm in the room for too long 
I like to just arrive however 

592
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,560
long they want me there before. 
But like I like to be in pretty 

593
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,320
quick and then leave if. 
Possible, Yeah, No, I'm quite 

594
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,600
sure I don't mind sitting with 
them if they're, you know, as 

595
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,800
you get boring ones, but there's
some of them you you get the 

596
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,520
chat to them and you can get a 
bit of biz. 

597
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,720
And yeah, when I when I smoked, 
I used to just nick bite the 

598
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320
back and sneak a fag of people 
and get you know who's who and 

599
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,160
you can get a couple of jokes 
off people you know. 

600
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Yeah, yeah. 
I don't mind the corporate. 

601
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,880
I I like them, I just have had 
some terrible ones. 

602
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760
But then there's also someone's 
some you do and go. 

603
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560
This just feels like a yeah, 
something really, really nice. 

604
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,160
Exactly. 
That's how you have to treat it.

605
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
I mean, I think the table the 
couple of the corporates have, 

606
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,440
the audience aren't there to see
you. 

607
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,960
They haven't paid to see you. 
They don't know. 

608
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,880
Most of the time they don't even
know you're on. 

609
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160
Yeah, yeah, they go, they go up.
I can never, like, give me 

610
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,600
headpiece anyway. 
And now you've got to listen to 

611
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,000
them for 25 minutes, you know. 
But you know, you can, you can 

612
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,520
have really nice corporates. 
You can. 

613
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Have you ever had real bad 
backlash to a joke? 

614
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:42,560
Like have you ever had threat or
something, something come down 

615
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,920
the the line to you? 
Like occasionally because you're

616
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,600
you're you're way over the years
in the game, you're bound of, 

617
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320
you know, you make jokes about 
paramilitaries or political 

618
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,640
situations and that sort of 
thing. 

619
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,080
So. 
Yeah, we did a joke in two 

620
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,800
ceasefires in a wedding, with 
the very first one right back in

621
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,600
95. 
Which was sorry, was that a 

622
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080
spinoff or get my head piece? 
That was the the pilot chauffeur

623
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,960
give me headpiece 2 ceasefires 
in a wedding. 

624
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720
It was the very first one and it
was about I played Dan. 

625
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,440
I was my daughter was marrying A
peeler. 

626
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,160
So I was ringing Gerry Adams in 
the radical could we break the 

627
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,080
ceasefire because I'm very angry
and then I rang the INLA is it 

628
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,240
ring. 
So do you still on ceasefires? 

629
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,840
Yeah, we're done. 
Can now we break the ceasefire? 

630
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,800
No, no company. 
I said, is that the position of 

631
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,840
both of you at the gym? 
A big Jackie Hamilton who lives 

632
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,640
in Derry. 
Then for a week later says I've 

633
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,720
had a word if somebody rang me 
who's close to the thinking of 

634
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,640
the island lake. 
One of the two did you tell? 

635
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Tim McGarry, There's more than 
two of us, and we're. 

636
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160
Oh. 
OK, there's more than two. 

637
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:48,160
There's three, yeah. 
Apart from that we haven't 

638
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520
really. 
We we had a sketch that went 

639
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,480
wrong in our TV when 1996 that 
caused a bit of hassle but bit 

640
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,480
of a backlash. 
Why did it? 

641
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,600
Go wrong, you talk about it, 
it's OK. 

642
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,600
Yeah, it was a long time ago. 
Let's just say we lost a few GAA

643
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,760
clubs over it. 
I'm. 

644
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Not that they're good. 
Corporate. 

645
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,560
Will they argue? 
Well not necessarily David Hall 

646
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680
or agents Quickly. 
GA clubs are the worst ones for 

647
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Pena in cash right And then 
they'll have a bundle of cash 

648
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,320
and they'll go they'll give you 
a favour and go. 

649
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120
Weren't many underneath. 
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 

650
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,480
But disappointed by the crowd. 
I've had a lot of favour and 

651
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320
then go thought the bar would do
a lot better. 

652
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640
You know which is I. 
Thought a guy would give me half

653
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,800
in cash but bear in mind it was 
£100. 

654
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Give me £50 and go. 
Might have to write you a cheque

655
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
for this. 
Other fifty goes he goes, my 

656
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,640
wife won't be happy with me and 
I was like, OK, write it. 

657
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960
And then he wrote it and 
genuinely about a year later, 

658
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,120
this guy is stand up divorced. 
So he kind of was right your 

659
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,400
fault. 
He kind of was right. 

660
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,800
Has has like coming out of 
lockdown and been able to like 

661
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920
be because, well, you didn't, 
you're maybe one of the only 

662
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,680
people that didn't really stop 
making stuff. 

663
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,440
You're doing radio and TV, but 
has it has it made you want to 

664
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,440
do anything different? 
Like has it spawned any ideas 

665
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,280
for TV or or things where you 
go? 

666
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600
I won't do this. 
Well, we were, we would hate to 

667
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,920
say we had quite a good lockdown
because we were able to give me 

668
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,200
here peace socially distance in 
a, in a warehouse. 

669
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480
So it can kill route we're able 
to do. 

670
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,320
And then we played it to an 
audience, the cinema, where 

671
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360
instead of doing it in the 
studio in front of 300 people 

672
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,440
like we normally do, we built a 
bigger set and all of that. 

673
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880
And Jim Craig has 2 metres stick
outs. 

674
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,280
We all had to be two metres 
apart. 

675
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,040
We only do that to the radio 
show. 

676
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,240
But yeah, because in a bit of 
time I have a couple of other 

677
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,880
wee things that I love doing. 
I do a history show with a guy 

678
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,120
called David Huma, the Orange 
Order called The Long and the 

679
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,720
Short of it, which is a 
brilliant title for a radio 

680
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,960
show, for ATV show, because I'm 
6 foot four and he's 4 foot 

681
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,280
nothing on the radio. 
It makes no sense, no sense. 

682
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,560
People go why just call the long
on the short of it until you see

683
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,080
a photograph. 
And because of the centenary and

684
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,120
we were mucking about and stuff.
So we're doing a couple of live 

685
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,000
versions of that, which is kind 
of a sort of half stand up, half

686
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,440
lecture, half rag, which really 
enjoying. 

687
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,600
And we we've done loads of these
series and we've got to do 

688
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,320
another one. 
And it's just talking about 

689
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,520
controversial moments of Irish 
history and having a ride, which

690
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440
is great. 
People are like, the centenary 

691
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,480
is a weird thing, isn't it? 
Because it's, it's so divisive 

692
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400
to even just say they said like 
people don't want to know. 

693
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,840
They're like, no, it's not 100. 
Years and it's like it is, but 

694
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,240
it's not. 
It's not saying it's good or 

695
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,320
it's bad, but it is 100 years 
since Northern Ireland was like 

696
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,720
formed if you want to. 
People are like no, no, they 

697
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,480
just can't like the centenary. 
It's just it's the most divisive

698
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,040
thing. 
Yeah, I even got a bit of JIP 

699
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,560
for doing this thing with David 
Hume, for even marketing Cole, 

700
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,520
the top of the history, like 
totally my history, you know. 

701
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,400
But I'm young and I'm old enough
to remember Ulster 71. 

702
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Of course you wouldn't remember 
that. 

703
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,520
They had a massive thing about 
the Ulster 70 to celebrate 50 

704
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,040
years of Northern Ireland called
a big supposed to be a big 

705
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,160
festival and there was a fun 
fair and there was an exhibition

706
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,680
and all that. 
Was this in 1970? 

707
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,280
1/19/71 The big odds Ulster 71 
come and join the farm 

708
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,760
unfortunately slightly under 
will undermined by the fact that

709
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,200
civil war was breaking so AD 
list civil war not a proper 

710
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,560
civil war it was a bit of a crap
effort in civil war but we 

711
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,040
weren't murdering each other in 
huge numbers and this kind of 

712
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,600
thing just you know it was every
night again you get. 

713
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,440
The news What do you remember? 
Who was on? 

714
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,280
We got clips of it for the show.
We did Pop Goes Northern 

715
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,880
Ireland. 
There was Gloria Honeyford and 

716
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,000
sort of things. 
Gloria Honeyford singing. 

717
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Gloria Hunterford was a singer. 
OK. 

718
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,680
And I didn't know that. 
Yeah. 

719
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560
And there was a proper sort of 
exhibition and then the massive 

720
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,560
fun fair, I think in Botanic 
Gardens and stuff. 

721
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560
But it was kind of the news so 
and so on were shot today. 

722
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Anyway, Ulster 71 come and join 
the fall and. 

723
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,480
They should undermine anything 
that's happened that day. 

724
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,120
Exactly. 
So they're not, you know, 

725
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Northern Ireland is not great at
anniversary. 

726
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,640
No, no, no. 
Did you watch Keeley's 

727
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,840
documentary? 
I did, yeah. 

728
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,320
It was brilliant. 
Yeah, I thought the one he did 

729
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520
before as well. 
Yeah, I thought it was even 

730
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,960
better the one he did. 
But I thought, yeah, no, 

731
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Keeley's been great and he's the
one he did before. 

732
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,800
We interviewed Arlene and Arlene
said she would leave. 

733
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,760
There was a United. 
Everyone that said, no one who 

734
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,000
says that has ever left? 
Yeah, nobody. 

735
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,240
Who do you know from here that's
left? 

736
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,200
You don't leave. 
You know what I mean? 

737
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,560
Like you can't leave. 
But you do get people who are 

738
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,000
like, yeah, you know, I think 
I'm, I think we're going to move

739
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,520
as things go. 
No one has ever moved for 

740
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,720
anything other than like a new 
job or whatever. 

741
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,600
No, I thought Katie's been 
great. 

742
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,800
I think he's been really good 
and he's advocate of integrated 

743
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,920
education as a no, you are too 
and stuff and done the 

744
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920
integrated education gigs and he
was very good and that was doing

745
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,440
network audience as well to say 
listen, come on, look at where 

746
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,520
we are here you. 
Know do you know who who I would

747
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,560
love to get on the podcast? 
Speaking of integrated 

748
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,120
education, may blood. 
Yes, may blood. 

749
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,640
The the the great Baroness 
Mayblood, some woman. 

750
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,040
She because I went to see we 
talked to this before, but you 

751
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,960
there was a stand up night for 
integrated integrated education 

752
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,960
at the Ulster Hall and it was 
you and and Jake and Colin and a

753
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,560
few others and and Mayblood gave
like a talk at the start. 

754
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,960
It was funnier than everyone. 
She's. 

755
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,120
Fucking hilarious. 
Devastated the place like just 

756
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,080
like dead serious but ruthless. 
I can't remember what she said 

757
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,199
but just the place is in 
stitches. 

758
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,080
She has some. 
Some story to stop swearing and 

759
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,199
all that blue stuff. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

760
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,760
But no, I'd love to get her on. 
You've got a new show for Radio 

761
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440
Ulster and it's about music. 
I didn't for some reason. 

762
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,320
I I didn't know you were into 
music. 

763
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
I'm not, I'm not really, but 
this is an odd show. 

764
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,360
It's called Criminal Records, 
which is kind of reverse Desert 

765
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,239
Island Discs, where you don't 
come on, talk about music you 

766
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,320
love, but it's music that you 
hate, right? 

767
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Right. 
So it's kind of the worst song 

768
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,880
when you were a child, When I 
was a child, the worst song that

769
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,639
me and my brother were made to 
sing 2 Little Boys by Ralph 

770
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,320
Harris, which you don't like to 
sing now for various other 

771
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,360
reasons, but it was very 
fashionable at the time. 

772
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:52,760
The worst lyrics. 
It's almost like he was trying 

773
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,880
to tell us something. 
The worst form of music, you 

774
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,280
know, whether you're like hip 
hop or jazz or something, The 

775
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,480
worst gig you were ever at the. 
So what? 

776
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,960
What music do you hate? 
I hate free form jazz, yeah. 

777
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,840
You're very good at it. 
I was at, it was in Edinburgh a 

778
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,360
long, long time ago. 
We went to a jazz club and there

779
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,920
was a guy and they played for 20
minutes and then they stopped 

780
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440
and said that's our version of 
Bye Bye Blackbird. 

781
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,960
No, it wasn't nothing. 
Like where was the black thing? 

782
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,240
Nothing. 
Like anything. 

783
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,960
It was nothing. 
It was just you just made this 

784
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,840
up as you go along. 
I think jazz has to be the best 

785
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,840
kind. 
It has to be like the top level 

786
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,000
is OK in my eyes. 
You know, I don't know what 

787
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,120
music guy. 
My dad had two great jokes. 

788
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,800
My dad had a great There was a 
jazz musician who died and he 

789
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,200
was a jazz trumpeter or 
something or whatever, and my 

790
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,440
dad used to say I see him. 
Great man, great musicians. 

791
00:35:52,720 --> 00:36:00,520
Never played the same tune once.
And his other he was into 

792
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,760
classical, He got me into 
classical music when I was quite

793
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
young. 
And his other great joke, and he

794
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,960
loves it. 
See, Wagner said. 

795
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,360
Wagner's music is much better 
than it sounds. 

796
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,200
Wagner did a birthday message 
from my mate. 

797
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,640
What do you? 
Mean Wagner from Wagner cycle. 

798
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,520
Oh, I thought you meant Wagner 
from. 

799
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Right of the Valkyries. 
Did he do that? 

800
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,160
No, I'm thinking. 
You're talking about you're like

801
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,200
Bagner is the best of all. 
Time all right, OK. 

802
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,240
I don't know what I think. 
I'm at the stage, you know, the 

803
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,280
stage where you stop listening 
to Radio 1 and you've got more 

804
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,800
Radio 2A. 
Long time ago. 

805
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,920
I'm at that point so like modern
music I but so much modern music

806
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,840
is just old songs with like a 
bit of a dance beat behind it 

807
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,600
now. 
It's as if they've now run out 

808
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,640
of music, but maybe every 
generation thinks that. 

809
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,400
Well, absolutely. 
I mean, I think music stopped 

810
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
when The Smiths broke up in 1985
or whatever. 

811
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600
When Ian Curtis committed 
suicide, that was kind of. 

812
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680
You, you went, I saw you 
somewhere recently, you said you

813
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,280
were going to see Fontaine DC. 
They were brilliant. 

814
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,080
Yeah. 
It's good. 

815
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480
Yeah, really good. 
Do you get, like you say at that

816
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,840
gig where there's loads of young
people, like will you get a bit,

817
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,200
Will you get a bit of flak? 
Will you get a bit? 

818
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Not flak, but will you get a bit
of photos? 

819
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,000
And selfies, that's a lot of a 
lot of photos and a lot of 

820
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,840
selfies and all that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

821
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,760
And I had to black my way into 
the VIP area, which is basically

822
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,880
the side. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

823
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,760
Only 20 people in the queue for 
the bargain. 

824
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,480
So as opposed to 50, you know? 
Yeah. 

825
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,680
It's weird, like music. 
I didn't realise how much I 

826
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,560
missed music till I went to see 
Jerry Cinnamon a couple weeks 

827
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,600
ago and I've seen a few gigs 
since and it's it's so good when

828
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,960
you won't see a good live music 
gig, there's nothing better. 

829
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Yeah, it's brilliant. 
Well that's remember I my first 

830
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,160
ever gig was I went to see the 
Tom Robinson Band in 1978 who 

831
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,800
was supported by Stiff Little 
Fingers. 

832
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Oh yeah, I know that. 
Whitla Hall, You never heard of 

833
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,600
the Tom Robinson Band? 
No heard of Stiff Little 

834
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,240
Fingers? 
Her car in the darkness look up 

835
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,960
Power in the Darkness. 
The album Power in the Darkness 

836
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,320
with Tom Robinson Band from 
1978. 

837
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Were they what? 
They're local? 

838
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
No. 
No, no, no, no, because I know 

839
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,960
stuff. 
Little fingers you've ever heard

840
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960
of sing If you're glad to be 
gay, You never heard that song 

841
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Sing no Tom Rich. 
Sing if you're. 

842
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,080
Glad to people today young. 
People, I mean, it could, it 

843
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,720
could be the anthem of the 
podcast, but but Steph, my mate 

844
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,920
went to see Steph Little Fingers
in a car park in Bambridge. 

845
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,480
They were doing a concert and he
said they played at Alternative 

846
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,080
Ulster four times. 
It's a good zone, but I don't 

847
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200
know. 
That I could, yeah. 

848
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,000
What? 
Was it? 

849
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,160
The first gig I went to see is 
actually a pretty impressive. 

850
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,920
What do you find? 
A lot of people lie about their 

851
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,720
music preferences and gigs they 
saw where like, you might have 

852
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,600
gone and see someone quite shit.
So you'll forget that and you'll

853
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,600
wait until the best, the best 
first gig you went to see and 

854
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040
then say that my first gig 
genuinely was Elton John 

855
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,680
Stormont. 
Really good at Stormont. 

856
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,920
Yeah, he did. 
He did sing for Gay, that one. 

857
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,920
Which is. 
Good it was. 

858
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Brilliant. 
Yeah, yeah, I was a kid and you 

859
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,640
know why I thought it was unreal
because The Lion King had just 

860
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,920
come out and he did the 
soundtrack. 

861
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,440
So I was a huge Elton John fan. 
But it was, it was brilliant. 

862
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,640
It was a good first game to go 
to. 

863
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,480
I was a kid and then the 
Lighthouse fan. 

864
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,240
I'm a bit of a rocker. 
I like the mosh pit so I want to

865
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,560
see the Lighthouse family in 
Kings Hall and it was brilliant.

866
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Yeah, I had a mate who was 
really and the music when I was 

867
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,760
young and I ended up, I went to 
see U2 in the Ulster Hall when 

868
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,440
the 1978 just after the Boy 
album came out and it was third 

869
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,800
full. 
So it's one of those, yeah, we, 

870
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,360
we, we were there when we were 
there when they were cool and 

871
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,960
nobody knew who they were and 
stuff like that. 

872
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,160
But yeah, I've been to see some 
shit bands as well. 

873
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,080
What What do you have? 
You have any good guests coming 

874
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,680
on the? 
Show Yeah, we've fantastic 

875
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520
guests. 
We have Carl Frampton, we have 

876
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,800
the Queen of Country herself, 
Philomena Begley. 

877
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Genuinely, I thought you were 
just going to say the queen. 

878
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,800
I thought you were just going to
leave it there. 

879
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,440
I was like, that's a great 
guest. 

880
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,280
What was your? 
First game on that we're working

881
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,520
on her. 
First game, the Darkness. 

882
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,080
Criminal records the song she 
hates. 

883
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,400
God save the Queen if she hears 
it one more fucking time. 

884
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Jesus, here we go again. 
These different fingers, 4 * a 

885
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,120
month, every bucking day, 
everywhere she goes. 

886
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,400
It's not even a good tune, you 
know? 

887
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,000
At the start of it's good I. 
Like the start of hope and glory

888
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,640
or something. 
Give it the welly. 

889
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,120
Stiff Little Fingers. 
Yeah, they were I found out 

890
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,600
about this band and I 
unfortunately I can't remember 

891
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,800
what they're called, but they're
like a worship band like so I 

892
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,680
presume that's a Christian music
and they're from Bangor and 

893
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,160
I've. 
I sent a message asking on the 

894
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,840
podcast a couple of days ago. 
They're called the something 

895
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Collective or something. 
It begins with R and the they 

896
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,720
were they're doing. 
The man looking this up now, 

897
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,680
yeah. 
They're doing the SSE arena 

898
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,440
because I was looking at my show
and I saw this band and I 

899
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,680
thought all that the Ren 
collective, right? 

900
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,480
These guys I think are from 
Bangor. 

901
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,080
See their videos, 20 million, 30
million. 

902
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,640
They're doing SSE and they're 
because they're a worship band. 

903
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Like, you know, Americans like 
us wouldn't heard of them, but 

904
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,400
they're they're huge. 
They're from Bangor. 

905
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,480
Yeah. 
There's probably an American 

906
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,400
market there, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, probably. 

907
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,720
Are they any good? 
I mean, I think. 

908
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:11,200
If your lyrics are a bit 
predictable, are. 

909
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,040
They, they like God. 
I think there's a lot of like, I

910
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,640
think reading between the lines 
of music, they think God's 

911
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,000
pretty cool guy. 
Yeah, they like him. 

912
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,720
Jesus, he's good. 
Yeah, he's in there as well. 

913
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Everything's great, a lot of 
smiling. 

914
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:28,440
Film. 
It was film in a bag. 

915
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,920
He's on blanket on the ground. 
Among many others. 

916
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,160
Well, yeah, yeah, but that 
she's. 

917
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Nearly 80 and she's woman. 
Yeah, she's still gone. 

918
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,360
And she's she's been in the 
business nearly 60 years. 

919
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,840
Actually some great stories. 
She's got somebody died during a

920
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,480
gig shoot somebody when she was 
singing. 

921
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,040
I can't remember the name of the
song. 

922
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,960
Somebody went and died in the 
middle of the gig. 

923
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Right, right, right. 
Not ideal, not it kept going, 

924
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,200
didn't stop. 
Totally professional, just. 

925
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,320
Jived her out of there. 
Yeah, like a comedy kick. 

926
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,600
How to go really killed tonight.
Yeah, really killed. 

927
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,960
So I have a card. 
Felt that of Colin Murray, who 

928
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,840
was brilliant as well. 
Really, really good. 

929
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,560
And I had Peggy Lee, the actor 
from Peaky Blinders at Mercer, 

930
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Callahan. 
They kept the Northern Ireland 

931
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,160
football team, kept the Clifford
as well. 

932
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,120
Brilliant, really woman. 
And I had Holly Hamilton, the TV

933
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,720
presenter stuff. 
When you when you started doing 

934
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,520
get my head pace, did you? 
I've always won last years. 

935
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,920
Did you know when you when you 
started doing those pilots you 

936
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,560
were talking about, did you know
that that would be successful or

937
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,440
was there a feeling of like this
is going to be what it has 

938
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,600
become, which is, you know this 
really long running institution 

939
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,800
type? 
Show two cease fires in a 

940
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,680
wedding was was one off where 
originally the idea was this is 

941
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,680
a piss take of all the bad 
Northern Ireland plays and films

942
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,640
and stuff that there were about 
Northern Ireland or people with 

943
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,720
dodgy accents, usually English 
actors. 

944
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200
And it was a piss take of all 
that and it was essentially A1 

945
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,120
off right. 
And it was Martin Lynch the 

946
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,680
playwright. 
He was talking to my 2 

947
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,880
colleagues, Damon and Michael 
one time over a pint and said, 

948
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,160
you know, you've created a 
sitcom. 

949
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,480
There was what do you mean? 
You've got two families in the 

950
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,680
sitcom and characters and 
they're larger than life at the 

951
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
book and sitcom. 
We're really OK. 

952
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,960
I've eventually pitched it to 
the BBC and we did one series 

953
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,800
and it did all right. 
Didn't do brilliantly. 

954
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,280
It took until the second or 
third series before it went from

955
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,280
it did did well. 
Didn't know when he was getting 

956
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,680
2030% and then it just went vomp
like that. 

957
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Ridiculous figures getting over 
50%, beating EastEnders and 

958
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,600
stuff like that. 
And I was being chased around in

959
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,120
supermarkets by kids and stuff. 
You know, that was just. 

960
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,320
Thankfully it's that way around.
Yeah, those days are gone. 

961
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,480
Yeah. 
Come into my trolley. 

962
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,720
But it was totally unexpected. 
In fact, the first series went 

963
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,920
well and the babe came to us and
said, we think there's another 6

964
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,800
here. 
Do you think there's another 

965
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400
six? 
And we, oh, hundred percent, 606

966
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,800
more. 
And then we went to Raymond. 

967
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,880
We've, we've written all the 
jokes, we've done all the 

968
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,160
stories. 
That's all there is. 

969
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,200
There is no more. 
This is how we're going to do 

970
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,200
this. 
But then you get into the groove

971
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,520
of it. 
And then we got into the groove 

972
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,200
of writing a sitcom and writing 
a having a plot structure and 

973
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,320
having the the dialogue was 
actually quite easy because the 

974
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,320
characters we we knew so well. 
Yeah, it was the plot structure.

975
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,520
I mean, a really good script 
editor who was really good at 

976
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,520
going. 
There's 4 lines. 

977
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,280
There is no joke. 
Give me a joke and blahdy blah 

978
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,720
and suggestion jokes as well. 
Guy called Niall Leonard, 

979
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,040
brilliant guy. 
And you won't know now, but 

980
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,840
you'll know his wife because 
he's married to Erica Leonard 

981
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,720
James. 
He is Mrs He's Mr 50 Shades of 

982
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,640
Grey. 
His wife is Erica Leonard. 

983
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,360
Does she have a connection to 
here? 

984
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,760
She she's English. 
But she married him and. 

985
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,440
Lived in Belfast. 
He's from Newry, but he's from 

986
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Alex Gillenry. 
But he lived in Newry and then 

987
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,160
took up with Erica and they 
lived in Belfast for several 

988
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,160
years. 
And he was a script editor in 

989
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,880
BBC Northern Ireland when we 
were starting. 

990
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,160
And she she worked in television
production and then did the 

991
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,040
writing on the side kind of. 
And then with that link, when 

992
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,160
you heard they were making the 
50? 

993
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Shades of Grey in in the books, 
in the movies. 

994
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Did you consider getting on the 
phone to him? 

995
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
I'd say said hello. 
Yeah, yeah. 

996
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,840
And if you've met. 
Niall Leonard, you know, 

997
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,320
Christian Grey, billionaire, you
know, man with a sex dungeon. 

998
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Not really. 
Now it's from Yuri and I go EL 

999
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,640
James. 
She she deserves every single 

1000
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,400
penny. 
Like she has some imagination. 

1001
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:39,400
Met this guy she met now is a 
good friend, a really good 

1002
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,840
friend of ours. 
And you know, we, we knew her 

1003
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,280
vaguely and you know, we'd met 
her a couple of times and stuff.

1004
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,080
But he was, he worked in six or 
seven of our series and we'd 

1005
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,800
send him a script and he'd come 
back two days later and he'd 

1006
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,760
read his go. 
That's not. 

1007
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,800
But he, what he did was bring it
to the script. 

1008
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,960
He suggested other jokes and he 
suggested stuff and you went OK,

1009
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,160
and you could reject it as well.
Go. 

1010
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,600
No, I don't agree on that. 
But he was just pretty. 

1011
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,000
And then suddenly he stopped 
taking her culture. 

1012
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,120
Where is he waiting? 
He's probably an intelligent 

1013
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,840
though, He tells a great story 
about Erica was writing bits and

1014
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,160
pieces for and you know, was 
doing okay. 

1015
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,640
But he was, he was a, he was a 
script editor. 

1016
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,840
He was writing stuff for the BBC
and bits and bobs and his two 

1017
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,440
kids at university and he was 
fighting with the BBC and they 

1018
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,720
weren't paying him and all of 
that. 

1019
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,800
And Erica, come in, you would 
say I'm going to give up my job 

1020
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,800
and go full time with the 
writing and said for a second, 

1021
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,440
his his brain went, for fuck's 
sake, it's the last fucking 

1022
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,000
thing I need when up in Kent 
University. 

1023
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,000
And she's going to give up a 
fucking job. 

1024
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,840
And he said, thankfully my brain
went, Erica, that's a great 

1025
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,280
idea. 
I fully support you. 

1026
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080
He said six months later, he 
said not six months later, she 

1027
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,720
was top of the New York 
bestseller list. 

1028
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,240
Incredible. 
And then he, you know, Yeah. 

1029
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,520
And he, funny enough, he, he and
Eric could do bits and pieces 

1030
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,240
for the Degree of Education 
fund. 

1031
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,720
And I met them at one of the 
do's in London. 

1032
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,000
So solid, down to earth. 
Brilliant, Brilliant people, 

1033
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,280
brilliant people. 
Did you have many? 

1034
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Did you have? 
Push backs for a lot of the 

1035
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,280
stuff you were writing at the 
time from like BBC and stuff 

1036
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,200
like that, like a lot of the 
jokes that were in was there a 

1037
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,800
lot of like because it's a 
minefield anyway, but did. 

1038
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,440
It change say for example when. 
You started. 

1039
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,040
Get my headpiece. 
The jokes you were allowed to 

1040
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,360
get in over time. 
Were you allowed to get more in 

1041
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,520
because they trusted you a bit 
more? 

1042
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,400
Yeah, exactly. 
They they. 

1043
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,560
After a few series, they, they 
were very nervous at the start. 

1044
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,120
And there always are. 
Yeah, but this, this happens all

1045
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,160
the time. 
We we did. 

1046
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,840
We did a gig for the, for the 
PSNI very early. 

1047
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,720
They asked us to do a thing for 
peelers, which is quite 

1048
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,560
controversial at the time, and 
we've had no problem. 

1049
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,880
I like the peelers, You know, if
you know any peelers, you're the

1050
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,680
darkest sense of humour in the 
world, you know. 

1051
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,280
And the first time we did it, 
Hugh Ord was the chief constable

1052
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,920
and he said, want to see the 
script a week in advance, We can

1053
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,920
advance. 
OK Sent us the script and he 

1054
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,840
took a few lines out and done 
anything. 

1055
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,360
And then we did it in front of 
an And then we. 

1056
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,040
And he realised he went, ah, 
right. 

1057
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,480
OK. 
They know where the line is. 

1058
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Yeah, they know where the line 
is. 

1059
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,520
You know what, You're not going 
to be offensive. 

1060
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,040
You know we're going to push it 
as well, because people like 

1061
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,160
that Northern, they like you to 
push it up to the close of the 

1062
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,160
line. 
With television, it's completely

1063
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,520
different. 
You've got script editors, 

1064
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,200
you've got lawyers, you've got 
all sorts of things. 

1065
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,440
But they now trust us. 
We've a legal background as 

1066
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,840
well, so we know we haven't been
actually been sued. 

1067
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,840
If somebody threatened to sue us
recently, I can't talk about but

1068
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,880
but we haven't been sued and 
ever at all, you know, for for 

1069
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,840
like we do like, but we can we 
do like a real life game, But 

1070
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,200
guess who? 
So if we set up, does this 

1071
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:44,400
person have glasses? 
Yes or no? 

1072
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:52,280
No, I think you know it is. 
See what you're saying about 

1073
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,000
like? 
You know, BBC could be like 

1074
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
quite worried about things. 
Me and Dave, we're doing the 

1075
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,480
rave lockdown, so playing dance 
music on Friday nights and 

1076
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,160
lockdown. 
One of the shows fell on Good 

1077
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Friday, right? 
And I don't even know really 

1078
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,760
what good for. 
I know it's a religious thing, 

1079
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,280
but I don't know what it is or 
what it signifies. 

1080
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,840
We had to read out at Disclaimer
at the start of the show and say

1081
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,520
welcome to the ray of lockdown. 
We're aware it's Good Friday. 

1082
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,280
So if this show isn't for you, 
feel free to switch off and do 

1083
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,400
something else. 
Was like by playing like sash 

1084
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,600
Ecuador and Scooter, how are we 
disrespecting God? 

1085
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,920
You know, I mean, like we're not
it's not like we're playing 

1086
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,080
satanic mix. 
You know, it's we're playing 

1087
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,680
commercial dance music like what
Christians are going to be up 

1088
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,840
for sake. 
Do anything wrong? 

1089
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Yeah, you will. 
You see the? 

1090
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Good Freddy people take 
seriously because that's the day

1091
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,680
Jesus was put the cross and all 
of that, and stations of the 

1092
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,360
cross and the day that used to 
close all the bars and all. 

1093
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 
yeah. 

1094
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,360
And you know what you are? 
You've just been disrespected. 

1095
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,680
No, I knew. 
I know it's a religion, but you 

1096
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,120
know, I know it's a thing off 
the. 

1097
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:13,000
Radio for that. 
The memo get through I I didn't 

1098
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,600
know that's. 
The exact day it was, I didn't 

1099
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,880
know it was the day he went on 
the ground. 

1100
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,760
I just knew it was like, you go 
to school at all. 

1101
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Did you like? 
There's so many things to 

1102
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,760
remember, just in general. 
So many things to remember, like

1103
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,040
good Freddy. 
Yeah, but you know, there's the 

1104
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,960
day Sunday. 
Why do I have Easter Sunday? 

1105
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,080
I don't. 
Know Easter eggs well, that's a 

1106
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,560
day. 
That's a day he had a big 

1107
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,200
dinner. 
That's why you. 

1108
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Have Easter Sunday, but but 
there's like the day he came out

1109
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,520
of The Cave and there's all this
birthday and it's a lot of days.

1110
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,120
So I just knew it was a 
religious day. 

1111
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,720
But no, I wasn't like a school 
guy, if you want to call it 

1112
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:47,680
that. 
Wasn't like a learning type. 

1113
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,400
I like academic. 
No, no, no, no not. 

1114
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,760
Academic, I like PE and stuff 
and I I did get a degree, but 

1115
00:50:54,760 --> 00:51:00,280
that's just from the streets. 
University Streets of Hollywood,

1116
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,560
University of Life. 
Yeah. 

1117
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Yeah, well. 
I learned some things in 

1118
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Hollywood. 
Side of Hollywood, Yeah, You 

1119
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,600
know where? 
He said. 

1120
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,720
The bad side of the tracks 
There's no bad side of the 

1121
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,360
tracks in. 
Hollywood, even the bad side of 

1122
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,520
the tracks, is fucking lovely. 
It's it's nice on the bad side 

1123
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,360
of the tracks. 
Where did you grow up to North 

1124
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,360
Belfast? 
Antrim Rd, North Belfast. 

1125
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,320
Have you stayed there? 
Very boring. 

1126
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,040
I'm a very boring man with a 
very boring life. 

1127
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,920
I think I'm born too. 
I've moved four times in a 

1128
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,720
radius of 500 yards where 
literally, literally like that 

1129
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,200
house there they go over there I
go. 

1130
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,040
Yeah, I like it. 
You know, like, but genuinely, 

1131
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,560
do you think yourself as like a 
relatively? 

1132
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,240
Boring guy Because I think I'm, 
I'm, I think I'm quite a dull 

1133
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:43,800
guy. 
Incredibly dull, yeah. 

1134
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,480
And because I don't. 
You I meet people who I'm like 

1135
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,120
that person's really exciting, 
but the things that make me 

1136
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,560
happy are very simple things. 
Watching football like like, 

1137
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,080
yeah, football cup of tea. 
Crossword. 

1138
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,760
Cup of tea. 
Online chess. 

1139
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,760
I'm no good at crosswords. 
Online chess. 

1140
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,280
I do Online chess. 
Yeah, I've got into that, yeah. 

1141
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,800
Have you? 
When I. 

1142
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,720
One of the coolest things I was 
always we were in Miami and in 

1143
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,120
Little Havana, you know, the 
Cuban area they have there, they

1144
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,320
all the men meet in like a 
square and actually play chess. 

1145
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,880
And I thought that was class. 
Well, I mean, I can barely play 

1146
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,320
draughts, so I was watching them
going. 

1147
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,000
That's impressive. 
Yeah. 

1148
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,040
I would never be able to learn 
chess and someone will go. 

1149
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,160
I could teach you. 
You couldn't I, I couldn't learn

1150
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,880
chess. 
Well, I was in the Nerdsville, 

1151
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,000
you know, I wasn't very. 
Sporty at school, you know? 

1152
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,200
I liked sport, I liked football,
but I was no good at it. 

1153
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,240
I was last to get picked, even 
if I brought the ball, you know,

1154
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:42,440
they're my jumpers, last to get.
So I hung around with the nerds.

1155
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,520
So I was in the chess club and 
it was, it was quite useful for 

1156
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,840
a bit. 
And then I realised I was being,

1157
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,800
I was about 12:13. 
I was being beaten by 7 year 

1158
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,160
olds who'd never seen grass, but
they knew the Nims of Indian 

1159
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600
defence and you know, the 
English gambit inside out, you 

1160
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,160
know, and their fathers are 
standing beside them rubbing 

1161
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,400
their hands going, he's going to
be a grandmaster. 

1162
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,200
So I entered a few competition 
but given up. 

1163
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,400
But I was kind of hanging around
with him nerds and ended up in 

1164
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,400
sort of the acting in this 
rather than the sporty world 

1165
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,280
chess. 
No, I I love. 

1166
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,120
There's so many things I. 
Love the idea of but I could 

1167
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,920
never do it. 
Like I honestly wouldn't have 

1168
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,480
the ability to ever play chess 
well that would give me great 

1169
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,800
satisfaction and beating an. 
Idiot like you Because the point

1170
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,360
of chess is to beat people. 
Yeah, no. 

1171
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,520
And it is the only game where 
there's no. 

1172
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,960
Chance if I beat you at chess? 
It's because I'm smarter than 

1173
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,160
you are. 
Yeah, fair. 

1174
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,040
The trouble is when an online. 
Chess. 

1175
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,840
I'm I'm brilliant and then I'm a
complete fucking idiot. 

1176
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,480
We're all within a space of 5 
minutes. 

1177
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,680
You just sell my computer 
rebooted itself just. 

1178
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Switch off online chess and 
Chardonnay do not mix by the. 

1179
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Way. 
Yeah, the is that what you do? 

1180
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,640
You pop Chardonnay? 
Oh, you have a week couple. 

1181
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,360
Of glasses and you go I'm. 
A genius and Tim, I'm getting a 

1182
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,040
real a real glimpse into your. 
Private life and you use the 

1183
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,480
glass or just a. 
Swing from the ball. 

1184
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,800
Flagging. 
As long as you're staying out of

1185
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,200
those shopping centres. 
It's all right. 

1186
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,400
What are you going to do? 
Like the long short of attack? 

1187
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,000
Are you going to your turn that 
or your? 

1188
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,680
We are. 
We're doing a sort of mini tour,

1189
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,280
yeah. 
We've been to where we were in 

1190
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,840
Derry, we're in The Apprentice 
Boys at Derry Hall in Derry a 

1191
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,920
couple of weeks ago. 
It was great, really good, good 

1192
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,600
fun. 
And then we were in the Stormont

1193
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,240
Hotel, part of the East Side 
Arts Festival and we're all over

1194
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:24,720
the place. 
I think we're an arm and the 

1195
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,000
Lyric and Dairy's a great place 
to. 

1196
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,200
I'll get a link for the tour, 
we'll put it in the bio for this

1197
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,560
description. 
Derry is a great place to gig 

1198
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,560
but I just wish I could make it 
a bit closer. 

1199
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Yeah, it's just a Glenshin pass.
Doesn't work. 

1200
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:39,760
For me it. 
Doesn't. 

1201
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,120
Sorry, they're getting rid of 
it. 

1202
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,760
They're trying to. 
Go around it out there or 

1203
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,280
something that makes it quicker.
You can grim the glenshin pass 

1204
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,200
once you. 
Get there. 

1205
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,640
It's always a Derry and it's 
Derry's like a comedy city as 

1206
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:50,800
well. 
Like people like stand up. 

1207
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,040
Yeah, I just headlined the Gas 
Yard Failure Festival, me and 

1208
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,400
Jerry Adams and not like a duo 
type thing. 

1209
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,680
You did a different event, but 
but it was it was brilliant. 

1210
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,240
Yeah, it was good. 
No, I love it. 

1211
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,080
I love Derry. 
We. 

1212
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,800
We. 
Funny, our lot last year we were

1213
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,280
giving a headpiece to our last 
three shows were in the 

1214
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,480
Millennium and Derry. 
Yeah, and then we did one more 

1215
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,200
in our man and it all went to 
crap. 

1216
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,520
But they were literally with our
last three just before the 

1217
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,360
lockdown were in the Millennium 
and Derry. 

1218
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,520
It's a great I open. 
It can't be there, darling. 

1219
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,480
It's it's beautiful. 
When it's full, it's just 

1220
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,680
lovely. 
And Derry people are, Yeah. 

1221
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:26,800
I mean, they're a bit hot. 
Yeah. 

1222
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,600
I mean, I think. 
And you? 

1223
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,280
Think everyone who's not from 
where you're from is a bit old, 

1224
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,880
but like, but they're like, you 
know, they because I, I was told

1225
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,480
by a dairy person. 
There are two types of dairy 

1226
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,360
people, dairy people who think 
dairy is the centre of the 

1227
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,160
universe and dairy people who 
think it's the arsenal of 

1228
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,440
nowhere and can't wait to get 
out of it. 

1229
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,400
Yeah, yeah, I don't think there 
is 2. 

1230
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,680
I think there's. 
Dairy people who? 

1231
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Think it's the centre of the 
universe and dairy people who 

1232
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,200
fucking are very angry that you 
don't think it's the same. 

1233
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Although like. 

1234
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,600
Here's thing Tim, I like to go 
to Nando's before a gig just to 

1235
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,120
be ritual mine. 
It's it's sort of quick food. 

1236
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,640
I like it and dairy has a 
Nando's, but it's never busy. 

1237
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,320
And that's what I I find that 
weird that why it's a big city, 

1238
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,200
but I like that you can just 
slip in there and then go do a 

1239
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,160
gig, right. 
That's just my real busy in 

1240
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,240
dairy. 
The Nando's just hasn't taken. 

1241
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,520
All like you say there, you 
know, there can be maybe a bit 

1242
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,200
weird, maybe there's established
chicken places where people are 

1243
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,800
going nowhere. 
This is where I get my chicken 

1244
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,480
from. 
Just to maybe don't like trying 

1245
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,120
new things. 
OK, Yeah, OK. 

1246
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:24,240
Would you? 
Would you would? 

1247
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:25,560
You go from an Anders with me 
sometime. 

1248
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,120
No, I don't really. 
Before a gig, no. 

1249
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,440
I know. 
Do you not like before a gig? 

1250
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,360
Don't eat before a gig I. 
Can't understand that I. 

1251
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,680
Faced before a gig? 
Really. 

1252
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,280
Yeah. 
No, no, no, I can't. 

1253
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,520
No. 
I do like if King Henry the 

1254
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,440
Eighth. 
Like banquet all big chicken 

1255
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,240
legs and Mead No. 
David Mead, No. 

1256
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:48,440
Yeah. 
Nice joke there, but. 

1257
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,840
No, I, I not, not that I don't 
smoke anymore. 

1258
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,280
I don't smoke. 
Before I usually had used to 

1259
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,680
smoke quite a lot before gigs 
and then the odd paint. 

1260
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,440
But no, I can't really eat. 
I need to kind of. 

1261
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,680
You get nervous. 
I'm always nervous. 

1262
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,360
I'm always get nervous. 
It depends if I've played. 

1263
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,760
The venue before I'll be less 
nervous like I did Lavery's 

1264
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,640
couple of nights ago. 
I'll get to 0% nerves, but I 

1265
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,280
think that's because I know I've
worked on the material. 

1266
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,560
You know, I'm I'm not winging 
it. 

1267
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,480
If I'm winging something, I'll 
get really nervous. 

1268
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,040
But if I've worked on the 
material on enormous set list, I

1269
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400
get way less nervous and I feel 
comfortable on that stage. 

1270
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,960
But if I go somewhere I've never
been before, I can get nervous, 

1271
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,080
but there's no there's no like 
in between from I'm either not 

1272
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,800
nervous at all or I'm massively 
nervous. 

1273
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,800
I don't think for if these 
shows, you know, happen, and I 

1274
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,560
hope they will when they do help
them for Waterfront, because I 

1275
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,240
did that last time, I think I'll
be a bit nervous, but not that 

1276
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,520
nervous. 
But then for SSE, not just 

1277
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,320
because the scale, but because 
I've never been on that stage, I

1278
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,600
think I'll be more nervous for 
that. 

1279
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Yeah. 
I, I Yeah. 

1280
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,720
I keep comedians who aren't 
nervous at all. 

1281
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,280
It's weird. 
And then it's annoying. 

1282
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,600
Yeah, for. 3. 
Years for 3-4 years. 

1283
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,040
My handshake. 
Yeah, I've literally been 

1284
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,160
standing backstage in the. 
Grand Opera House with Neil 

1285
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,600
Delamere chatting away, chatting
away, chatting away no, Neil 

1286
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,160
Delamere, he went all right some
more and he walked on stage he 

1287
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,920
just you just. 
Like probably proper. 

1288
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,520
Chat in the middle of a laying 
up your conversations or a chat 

1289
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,320
no when you're not piercing up 
and down over what's my order 

1290
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,080
and where am I going What's what
are we starting with? 

1291
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,440
One thing I hate is when 
comedians run like. 

1292
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,920
Your mates raw material by you 
before you go on stage because 

1293
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,040
you're thinking about their 
material then as well. 

1294
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,960
I like to just, I like to relax 
but have a bit of my own time. 

1295
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,920
It's better than me, yeah, and 
I'm about to go and use it. 

1296
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,640
So you've got that tour. 
Come and then with get my 

1297
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,640
headpiece, will you? 
Will you tour that again? 

1298
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,400
Yeah, yeah. 
We're we're, I think. 

1299
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,280
We're put in the new Opera House
and end of March, end of March, 

1300
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,400
early April, I've got a sneak 
preview of the Opera House. 

1301
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,400
The the work that's done. 
It's stunning, absolutely 

1302
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,640
stunning. 
It's going to be a brilliant, 

1303
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,360
brilliant. 
I'm hoping to do something 

1304
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,040
really as gorgeous. 
And they've redone. 

1305
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,480
The entire added on bit, the 
annex, you know, redone all the 

1306
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,000
bars and stuff because it was a 
bit of a mess and it's 

1307
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,000
beautiful. 
I've done the Opera House once 

1308
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,800
in a way and it. 
Was with you, it was. 

1309
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,920
With you it is. 
The best venue to do comedy in 

1310
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,240
Northern. 
Were you with me? 

1311
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,720
Yep, in a way technically I 
performed. 

1312
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,040
Do you remember there was a 
Christmas gig about 12 years ago

1313
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,000
that Jackie was wrong, All 
right. 

1314
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,120
Yeah. 
And do you remember it was 

1315
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,920
hosted by the toll trolls? 
Yes. 

1316
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,560
Who were pop up things 
comedians? 

1317
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,200
From Dublin that a radio show 
had these. 

1318
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,680
Things and they talk like they 
were on helium and they did like

1319
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Nordy accents, which for some 
reason I hate that word. 

1320
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,280
Not that it offends me in any 
way, I just hate the sound of 

1321
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,960
the word Nordy. 
But anyway, they were MC in 

1322
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,480
these gigs but in big real life 
troll suits. 

1323
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,880
But they were doing the voices 
from up the top of the arena and

1324
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,520
they needed two people to be in 
the suits. 

1325
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,640
And I had the flu. 
It was Christmas like 13 years 

1326
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,040
ago, I had the flu and Jackie 
for me and said we need £50, we 

1327
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,240
need someone to stand in a 
troll. 

1328
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,360
I fit and be on the stage in the
Opera House and I said to me da,

1329
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,080
I remember like being in a look 
is it and going da, I'm about to

1330
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,640
play the Opera House. 
I think I bashed out like 5 

1331
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,720
press UPS, got him a course. 
I went straight to the Opera 

1332
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,200
House and we were just in these 
suits and every once in a while 

1333
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,040
I had to move her arms. 
And you were performing great 

1334
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,880
lineup and John Bishop, John 
Bishop headline and. 

1335
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,480
I. 
I was, I had the flu inside this

1336
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,640
suit, but it was like I was 
buzzing to just be on the stage 

1337
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,760
and we were walking off as John 
Bishop walked on and George 

1338
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,200
Quinn was the other troll. 
She walked off 1st and me and I 

1339
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,760
thought, ah, I'll interact with 
John Bishop for a while. 

1340
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,960
I mean, I've just met John Bish.
So I got like the troll hand in 

1341
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,840
my costume and went for a high 5
as I walked off the stage with 

1342
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,880
John Bishop, who thought it 
would be like funny to like, you

1343
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,800
know, pretend to like punch the 
troll, but he did. 

1344
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,040
But he thought that he. 
Thought the suit was. 

1345
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Thick enough to absorb it, but 
the suits were like he didn't 

1346
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,480
know the suit. 
The face of it was like that 

1347
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,280
thing. 
So I went for the high five. 

1348
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,560
I'm like I'll inside. 
I'm like there's John Bishop's 

1349
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:02,680
great. 
Went to get my high 5. 

1350
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,680
He's clogged me on the nose and 
it's like it's near, it's near 

1351
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,040
sparked me out and I'm walking 
off the stage like feeling the 

1352
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,320
effects of the flu. 
I think my nose might have been 

1353
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,240
bleeding a bit. 
I was like this. 

1354
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,520
My John Bishop might have broke 
my nose and he just started a 

1355
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,240
set and but I got everybody 
laughed. 

1356
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,880
So it was good. 
Everybody laughed and you didn't

1357
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,680
see him when? 
You're I might not I. 

1358
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,920
Might not traumatise. 
And all of that. 

1359
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, I might see him. 

1360
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,760
Tim, cheers for coming on. 
You're very welcome. 

1361
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,360
Pleasure. 
Absolute pleasure. 

1362
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,560
I really. 
Appreciate it and. 

1363
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,160
We'll put the the link for the 
tour in the in the description 

1364
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,040
for this. 
Thank you. 

1365
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Yeah, a criminal. 
Records is starting on Radio 

1366
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,640
Ulster, 10th of October or 
something. 

1367
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,080
Yeah, yeah, Dan's none. 
Yeah, yeah. 10th of October. 

1368
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,080
OK, and Barry's tea I am of. 
Them cut them off. 

1369
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,520
I am available. 
Nordy's. 

1370
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,160
Nordy's. 
Selling. 

1371
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,920
Tea up in the north, Tim. 
See you ever soon? 

1372
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,240
Yeah, I'm. 
Going to foot the bill. 

1373
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,800
Cheers. 
Thanks, Tim. 

1374
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:58,160
Thanks.
