1 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:11,300 Welcome to. He casts the official podcast of 2 00:00:11,300 --> 00:00:13,600 he changed it as always, I am Mike Chisholm. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,900 As always I am excited to be here, you know, we we send the 4 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:20,700 show off by going hey go change, something that's ours that's our 5 00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:23,800 sign off. My sign on is I'm excited. 6 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:29,400 It's always I'm excited to be here and I am it's genuine. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,300 It's 100% true. This is very exciting to me 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:40,100 watching this movement build watching this platform build. 9 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:46,100 You know they say Stanley was a famous Comic Book Guy of course. 10 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:50,400 And he always would talk to his new writers and his new comic 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,700 book producers and say okay you got to remember that every comic 12 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:56,300 book that is produced is somebody's first comic book. 13 00:00:56,300 --> 00:01:01,500 So if this is your first episode of he cast You know, I am the 14 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:10,100 enthusiastic cheerleader and and curious interviewer that hosts, 15 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:12,800 he cast, but really, at the end of the day, I'm also cheering on 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,300 my wife and her team as they build this platform, as they 17 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:16,400 build. He changed it. 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,100 He changed his immense mental Wellness platform. 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,400 It's in the phone of form of an app for your telephone. 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,200 You can go to heat changed it.com and check out all the 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,300 information about it. You can download the app right 22 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:29,400 now. Even though it's in, it's 23 00:01:29,900 --> 00:01:34,300 Infancy still a lot of prep goes into building these apps and and 24 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:38,200 and and it's about to jump on the roller coaster and start 25 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:40,600 some. Some big things are happening 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 behind the scenes in the world of, he changed it right now, but 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,300 at the end of the day, we're already helping guys out there 28 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:50,200 and that's astounding to me. And not just guys, we're helping 29 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:54,300 women out there who have guys in their lives were helping all 30 00:01:54,300 --> 00:01:57,600 sorts of people. If you download the app right 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,800 now, you will see. There are resources right there. 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,900 But the it's tough to talk course from the Canadian Mental 33 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:06,500 Health Association. We've got all sorts of things 34 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:10,400 that we just saw a preview of Our Guest, those Caleb Matthews 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,500 those, Our Guest right there, we'll get to him in a second. 36 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:15,800 You can download the app right now and and join in the fun. 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,300 You could watch the build. Go to heat change it.com for all 38 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:20,000 information. Now, if you are listening to 39 00:02:20,008 --> 00:02:23,700 this podcast, if it's your first podcast, the first time, 40 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:27,500 listening to he cast, hey, do me a favor like the show? 41 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:29,800 Write a review. Subscribe share. 42 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:31,800 Never platform that you're watching whether it's the 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,600 YouTube for your eye holes, or the or or apple or Spotify for 44 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,100 your earholes, whatever that is we would appreciate very much 45 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:45,900 you sharing subscribing liking in whatever order you want, the 46 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:50,900 overlords of he changed it. Look at all of those metrics and 47 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:52,800 judge me every single day based on them. 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,900 No, they don't do that. But at the end of the day, we 49 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:57,300 would love to move the needle on those metrics. 50 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:01,700 We are building a movement here and Very excited to do so, 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,800 unprecedented times that we live in right now. 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,100 Mental Wellness, of course, starting to really come into 53 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:11,400 Vogue and thank goodness, because the problem has never 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,200 been greater as things, get more complex in our lives. 55 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:18,100 And that's been happening, more and more, and more, and more and 56 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:19,500 more over the last hundred years. 57 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:24,000 So to do the complexities of how that hits us mentally. 58 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:25,900 And that is what we're trying to solve. 59 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:29,800 We are trying to solve the mental Wellness. 60 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,700 Crisis out there and you ain't seen nothing yet. 61 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:38,000 So that being said, let's talk about who today's interesting 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 guest is going to be. I have wanted to have somebody 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,800 who analyzes dreams on this show. 64 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,600 For a long, long time, we've had all sorts of life coaches and 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,400 counselors, and, and athletes and filmmakers, and I'll folks 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,700 all sorts of different walks of life, telling their story, 67 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:57,400 talking about what it is, they do excetera. 68 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,500 And, and hopefully, we The viewing audience or listening 69 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:05,300 audience or whatever the case may be can glean something out 70 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:08,800 of that, fantastic. Now, the guy that we're going to 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,800 have on here right now is name's Caleb Matthews. 72 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,000 He is actually, you know what, I'm not even going to overstep 73 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,100 and talk about exactly what he classifies himself as it. 74 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:23,000 But at the end of the day, a dream interpreter to say the 75 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,700 least and and and has looked into and gone down the rabbit 76 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,100 hole and it is a deep rabbit hole. 77 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:32,200 We talk about Leap, when we talk about dreams is a deep rabbit 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,800 hole that you can go down, and I'm really excited that he has 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,900 taken time out of his day. To join us on, he cast and we 80 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:41,600 can talk about dream, interpretation and dream, 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,200 meaning and things like that. Caleb Matthews. 82 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,300 Thank you for putting up with my long intro here and and taking 83 00:04:48,300 --> 00:04:52,000 time out of your busy schedule to join us here on he cast. 84 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:56,300 Thank you so much Mike. This is an honor to be here on 85 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:59,000 he cast and the show and I know there's a lot of hungry 86 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,300 listeners Are you listening to this podcast? 87 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:05,300 And just this conversation? And really tapping into the 88 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:08,000 dreams, which is a huge part of our lives. 89 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:10,200 A third of Our Lives scientifically. 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,200 We spend in the night season dreaming. 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,700 So that's a whole big chunk of time that that gets passed by. 92 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:18,000 So thank you very much for having me. 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,300 I'm really excited for today's conversation and show. 94 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:23,100 Oh dude, it's going to be it's this is going to be great, the 95 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,700 moment you and I met, you know, shout-out to Chris Patten and 96 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:30,600 and, and, and the wonderful event we were at Where were you? 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,200 And I connected. It was it was one of those 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,300 things where instantly there was an instant Rapport and we 99 00:05:34,308 --> 00:05:36,300 started going down the rabbit hole right there. 100 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:39,000 And right, as we started going down, the rabbit hole, I was 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,200 like okay you know what, I always want to stop this right 102 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,300 now, until we can make it get to the studio where we can talk 103 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:48,200 about this on the podcast. Because I think that our 104 00:05:48,207 --> 00:05:52,700 conversation had emphasis that a lot of people would enjoy 105 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:56,000 hearing and, and, you know, I love that what you just brought 106 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,700 up a third of Our Lives, you know, in the sleeper Elmer or 107 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,000 You know, sleeping, I remember once somebody sold me a bed and 108 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,300 and and they it didn't occur to me, they said to me, they said, 109 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,500 well, your bed is actually one of the most important purchases 110 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:11,200 you'll ever make. And I was like, what are you 111 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,900 talking about? I just want to save money and 112 00:06:12,907 --> 00:06:16,200 they're like, well, do you actually spend a third of your 113 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,600 life in this state? Don't you want to make sure that 114 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,500 you set it up, where you're going to be maximizing, you 115 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:26,400 know, whether it's Comfort or support or whatever and then she 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,600 went into middling go. But but, but it it's true. 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,300 We spend a great deal of our time in this world. 118 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:39,700 I often wonder if aliens were to come and analyze this planet, 119 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:44,200 you know, is it is it exclusive to our planet that most of the 120 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,900 creatures on it? Have this biological time of 121 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:53,500 rest and recharge and and it's one of those things where sleep 122 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:58,200 is as is a rabbit hole and if I think it's true, we're what we 123 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,600 don't know about sleep in. Dreams far outweigh what we do 124 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,900 know about it, but at the end of the day, I'm really grateful 125 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,500 that there are people like you who are spending time learning 126 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:09,900 about this stuff for sure. Yeah. 127 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:14,800 It's it's an art that I think is is really I think probably one 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,300 of the most I'm biased because I'm a dream interpreter, but 129 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:21,700 it's one of the most underrated Arts. 130 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:26,500 I think on the planet, like most people when they hear that, I'm 131 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:28,200 a dream interpreter. Oh, you're the dream 132 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,700 interpretation, some of the most like that's cool. 133 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,200 There are some that think, oh, you know, immediately like their 134 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:35,900 star and start to sticker, and think that it's some sort of, 135 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:41,100 you know, like Hocus Pocus like really child's toy or gimmick or 136 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:44,600 really just the value there. They don't some don't see it, 137 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,400 until they actually see it in action. 138 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,400 And I think that, you know, the dream realm really has a lot to 139 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,300 offer to unlock, Mysteries and codes and enigmas. 140 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,500 All from the beginning of history and time throughout 141 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:59,700 history, go over all so many different historical. 142 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:03,300 People that we read of in school, that we had no idea that 143 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:06,500 they were dream interpreters, or guided their greens. 144 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:10,500 People like Harriet Tubman, George Washington, just people 145 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:12,200 in American history, world history. 146 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:15,300 Winston Churchill. A lot of people who are Pinnacle 147 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:19,800 to shift the time of History, to towards Victory towards Freedom, 148 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:23,400 tap into the realm of their dreams, and they use that as a 149 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,700 vehicle to push themselves forward. 150 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:27,600 So, they are vitally important to our lives, not just for 151 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,300 history, but for current events as well. 152 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:35,000 I I appreciate everything that you're saying here and and don't 153 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,700 worry about the hippie-dippie part because I mean, I'm like, 154 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:45,300 okay there is every everything that has like. 155 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,700 I'll tell you, I'll give you a real life example. 156 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:50,600 I've been called an empath and I've read a couple books about 157 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:52,300 being an empath, I don't really know. 158 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,400 I don't really understand it that much, you know, and I 159 00:08:56,408 --> 00:08:59,300 understand that, whenever I use that word, it's a loaded word 160 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:01,700 sometimes. Once you say the word empath and 161 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:03,300 people are like, oh well what does that? 162 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:06,000 What does that mean? I'm like, I'm not even sure but 163 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,800 it is something that's out there. 164 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,200 You know, the book that I read was written by a psychiatrist 165 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,100 and it was based on science and it was based on, you know, we 166 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:17,300 just had Clare Kumar on talking about HSP, highly sensitive 167 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:20,300 people things like that. And I think many times when 168 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:25,700 something is strange or new or challenges, what the norm might 169 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:30,700 think it gets, it gets discounted as, as As hippy-dippy 170 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:31,800 stuff. So you don't got to worry about 171 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,800 that, you're in a safe place here. 172 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,600 When it comes to that, let's go into. 173 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:41,400 What was it that got you to start moving down the path 174 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,500 towards becoming a dream interpreter? 175 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,400 Is it something that you've been doing for years and years and 176 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,600 years? It is something that you kind of 177 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,400 stumbled into. Where did it start? 178 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,400 I love the question, Mike. I love it. 179 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,500 It's, this is the one that opens up the Pandora's Box which I 180 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:57,900 love diving into, and that is a starting at the age of six years 181 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:01,200 old, actually, Soul all smooth. Back, when I was kid, I started 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,700 having vivid dreams, like not just the ones where, you know, 183 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:07,300 have a little bit of a clip dreaming e, wake up and remember 184 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:10,100 a few sentences. I mean, epic dream is where you 185 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:12,700 feel like you're falling down the rabbit hole tumbling after 186 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:15,900 Alice in Wonderland where, you know, Matrix where a whole 187 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:18,700 different world opens up. And you see, you see things that 188 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:22,200 a child can't make up in their own mind because this is we're 189 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,800 talking about back in the day when I was six years old, you 190 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,200 know, it's you're talking about like the early 90s when there 191 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,000 was really smart. Bones weren't around my parents 192 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 were very strict on us watching television. 193 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,100 You know, we watched Hockey Night in Canada, that was really 194 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:38,700 about it. We did watch movies, none of 195 00:10:38,708 --> 00:10:41,300 that stuff. So, there wasn't a visual 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,100 antenna for me to dream about what I was seeing. 197 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:47,600 It was, it was just more epic and more glorious and more just 198 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,900 encouraging inspiring that I could ever imagine. 199 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:53,000 So starting at the age of 6, I started having these vivid 200 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,300 dreams. I was home-schooled. 201 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:58,200 So me and my two older brothers real home school by my mom. 202 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:02,000 God bless her soul. She really put a lot and 203 00:11:02,008 --> 00:11:04,400 sacrificed a lot. My dad did the homework after we 204 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,800 came home from work, from his day job as a principal, but my 205 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 mom was a teacher and she ended up with are all of our boyish 206 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,700 isms and everything. But one of the things that she 207 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:16,400 was able to include in the curriculum just because 208 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,200 homeschooling and give more flexibility, at least especially 209 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,700 back in. Those times in the early 90s was 210 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,800 dream interpretation because me and my brothers really started 211 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,400 having more dreams in the night. And my parents really want to 212 00:11:28,408 --> 00:11:31,800 explain to us that they were Weren't just silly Adventures 213 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,900 that you just saw on a TV screen of your of your spirit, or in 214 00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:38,000 your mind, and your soul that actually real meaning that can 215 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,600 guide your life. So that really started the 216 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,800 journey from that time on from 6 years old and really learning 217 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,700 the understanding the art of hebraic dream interpretation. 218 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:52,000 So going through the hebraic method, what do I mean by that? 219 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,500 Well I mean you know following the life of people like Joseph 220 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:58,500 and Daniel like in the ancient hebraic text and people who 221 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,000 actually had these dreams. Means where they'd only guided 222 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,300 their lives by God, the lives of Nations and countries and really 223 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:08,700 society and use what they tap into and that portion. 224 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:12,500 So that hit break method is we fall from the age of six and I'm 225 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:15,200 eating up all the way through my childhood, my teen years and 226 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,800 then when I was 18 or 19 I went down into a school in the 227 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,700 eastern part of the United States called streams Academy. 228 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,700 So it's a school of dream interpretations. 229 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:29,100 As a nine month intensive School were the boys and gals you know, 230 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:32,300 lived in Two houses and we lived on, you know, the little little 231 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:35,100 town called New London. New Hampshire, small little town 232 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:39,300 will bump community and we really learned about the art of 233 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,200 the hearing God and tapping into our dreams and really living 234 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,600 that monastic, mystical life of just really learning and diving 235 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,400 into our dreams and also guiding others in that as well too. 236 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,500 So we went to Salem places like Stonehenge the summer solstice, 237 00:12:56,700 --> 00:13:01,000 Costa Rica, nosara, all these Places, especially Haunted 238 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,200 Happenings in Salem was really our training ground for setting 239 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,800 up. Our Dream booths are and we 240 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,600 would interpret dreams for all sorts of spiritual pilgrims of 241 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,500 every asset of life. You know, one of the first 242 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:14,900 questions that we asked people sitting in the boot that I would 243 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:16,600 ask you. Mike right now is what is 244 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,000 spirituality mean to you. And that from that answer we 245 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,400 open up and then start to talk about the person's dream using 246 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,900 language that they're comfortable with. 247 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:27,300 Because we never want to get into language. 248 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:31,300 That makes anyone have any guard put up Does trust is really a 249 00:13:31,308 --> 00:13:33,400 key element in when were interpreting dreams for 250 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,600 strangers when we're meeting them or people that were 251 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,100 starting to meet on the street, right? 252 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:39,200 So that's a, that's a long condensed answer. 253 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 But how I got into that was started dreaming at the age of 254 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,400 six started. Guiding that throughout my 255 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,800 homeschooling life as my parents gave me to tirage and then went 256 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,900 to spiritual schools like streams Academy in New 257 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:53,300 Hampshire. Have cultivated that ever since. 258 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:55,900 So, it's from the age of 6, I started dreaming from the age of 259 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:58,800 18, 19. I really started to guiding the 260 00:13:58,900 --> 00:14:00,000 art of interpretation. Nation. 261 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,100 So it's it's been a journey. Wow. 262 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,900 You know for lack of a better term. 263 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:09,500 I really don't enjoy. I like saying, okay? 264 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:10,800 I like say what I'm about to say. 265 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:12,700 There are many people who this phrase of. 266 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,700 They just don't like it. But needless to say, there's a 267 00:14:15,708 --> 00:14:18,700 lot to unpack there and I love, I love that. 268 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:22,500 We have so many jumping points that we can go to the first 269 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:24,000 jumping point. I'm going to, I'm going to go to 270 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,100 is, you know, a comment. So you started getting into this 271 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:32,400 when your neural plasticity, He was at it's at its best when 272 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,900 we're kids. I mean, I look at my 273 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:39,000 granddaughter right now, she's four years old and the, the 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,300 rapid pace of what she can learn is astounding to me. 275 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:47,300 I envy it. I wish I had that 276 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:50,700 neuroplasticity back and the fact that you got into a subject 277 00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:56,300 that was, so deep. So early in your life is very 278 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,500 interesting to me. I, we could probably go an hour 279 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:02,400 on That but I think that our viewers and listeners would 280 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,400 would very much appreciate us getting to application as soon 281 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,200 as possible because what you just said, fascinating stuff. 282 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,900 Now I want to emphasize one point that you made, see we're 283 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:16,500 all different. We all have these different 284 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:20,900 points of view in these different places and that 285 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:25,800 includes level of comfort. You know how deep in the water. 286 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Does one want to go, you know, before their comfort level 287 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,000 starts Going. Whoa, okay. 288 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,300 Some people have to stay close to shore after State. 289 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:38,000 Be able to touch some people. It's a little bit further and 290 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,000 then some people can go right into the middle of the ocean. 291 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,100 I imagine it's very similar for this. 292 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:46,500 You brought up a couple of words that I think are very 293 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:51,000 interesting and and could be light switches to either turn 294 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,400 them on or turn them off to this subject. 295 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:56,800 You brought up spirituality, but at the end of the day, we also 296 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,500 talked about mental health and the scientific part of things. 297 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Um, boy dream interpretation and, and you brought up also, 298 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:08,300 you know, Daniel and then in the Torah originally and some of 299 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,700 these Spiritual Works, I don't know if there's a spiritual work 300 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:14,100 out there that doesn't talk about dreams in some aspect or 301 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:18,700 another, whether a little bit or a gigantic amount is dream 302 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:23,500 interpretation for you. Your standpoint. 303 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:26,000 I appreciate the fact that you're willing to talk about 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,500 people's Comfort level, but is it more scientific or spiritual? 305 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,900 Oil to you or are they just joined completely and it's a 306 00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:36,200 yin-yang kind of a thing. I think there's a there's a the 307 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,800 rivers flow from those parallel and I really truly believe that 308 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,200 they're the dream interpretation some there's deep science and 309 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,800 dreams but there's also a river that flows I believe in two are 310 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,700 connected to our spirituality. Like if we think of a ship and 311 00:16:54,700 --> 00:16:57,100 we've got the ship that's floating around in the waters of 312 00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:01,100 life, without the anchor to be able to Anchor and stay in the 313 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:04,000 port or to be able to at least rest and Bob and what you talked 314 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,200 about before the bedroom, being that place of just deep sleep 315 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,200 without the anchor, I believe of spirituality, whatever you put 316 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,400 it as and your definition of like or whatever audience does. 317 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:16,900 That's why I like to put the ball back in their Court of what 318 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:18,800 is spirituality means them? It's for some, it could be I 319 00:17:18,808 --> 00:17:20,599 don't have any spirituality, I'm an atheist. 320 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:22,700 Is that okay? Well, whatever you think like 321 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:26,000 whether it's positive energy, whether it's Buddha, whether 322 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,500 it's Islam, whether it's Christianity, whether it's 323 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:32,600 Judaism, like, Put whatever your comfort level is on, wrapping 324 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,100 that as their higher power. I say, okay, what is your higher 325 00:17:35,100 --> 00:17:37,400 power as usual? My next question, but I believe 326 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,600 that spirituality there has to be an anchor, some in some level 327 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,800 of belief, in a known atheist would probably just cringe when 328 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,900 I say this. But even atheists, do incense. 329 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:48,700 Some point believe in something, they have to believe in energy 330 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:50,500 or something, that keeps them going. 331 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:52,200 Every day in the morning to get up out of that. 332 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,100 Otherwise, why are you even alive? 333 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:56,400 Why are you even aspire to do what you're doing, right? 334 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,500 So that that comes back into the whole realm of spirituality? 335 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:02,900 But science, as well, to really plays a deep heart into it, as 336 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:05,100 we talked about a third of our lives and spent dreaming. 337 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,700 There's a REM sleep, and I'm glad that you brought up science 338 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,900 because we talked about REM sleep. 339 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:13,900 And we talked about falling into that rest that you are alluding 340 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:15,800 to before with your bedroom and your bed is one of the most 341 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,900 important purchases. And I under percent agree with 342 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:21,300 that, the bedroom should be a sanctuary of rest. 343 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:24,400 And I think in our Western culture, especially in the last 344 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,300 few years during the pandemic, there's been an overload of 345 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:31,300 media and just a bombardment against our senses and really 346 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:35,600 robbing of us have our sleep and I think that that I could go on 347 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,000 and on about that. But I really believe REM sleep 348 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,100 combined in parallel in the parallel universe with our 349 00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:45,800 spirituality is really tall and talk about application for our 350 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,600 dreamers. And I know people want to get 351 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,000 into like a packaging dreams, interpret dreams and we'll get, 352 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,300 we'll get into some of that. Yeah, without without REM sleep, 353 00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:55,700 you won't eat. We won't even have a palette to 354 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,900 have dreams. You cannot dream if you do not 355 00:18:57,900 --> 00:19:00,400 get to REM sleep or deep sleep. Impossible. 356 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:06,500 Well, many times a better dinner experience is start with a well 357 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:09,600 set table. I think about, you know, going 358 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,300 back. Let's, let's, that's an analogy. 359 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:15,900 Let's use the actual, my wife and I, you know, it sounds. 360 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:22,000 It sounds ridiculous saying it almost, but I think a lot of 361 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,000 people will agree. We live lives that are fairly 362 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,300 chaotic. My wife and I lots of lots of 363 00:19:28,308 --> 00:19:30,000 moving Parts. Lots of spit Plates whatever, 364 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,600 however you want to describe it. And, and sometimes I think about 365 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:40,400 our bedroom and our bedroom can go to chaotic, and cluttered 366 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,800 very, very quickly if we don't stay on top of it. 367 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,100 And if we don't stay on top of it and it becomes this cluttered 368 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:48,600 space. Sometimes she and I just look at 369 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,600 each other and say, okay you know what, we're taking the 370 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,300 first half of this day and we're completely gutting, the bedroom 371 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:56,100 and completely cleaning it and completely, you know, putting 372 00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:59,200 everything in order and having this this this space and I will 373 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:06,100 tell you You that both candy. And I when we do that, we sleep 374 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:07,400 better. It's like when you have the new 375 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,800 sheets on the bed and yeah, and everything's prepped right? 376 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,800 And yeah. Oh my gosh. 377 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,900 Does it ever change the way we view the space? 378 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,500 The way we view life while we're in the space? 379 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,300 And then, of course, it changes sleep while we're in the space 380 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:21,300 as well. And I think a lot of people 381 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:25,300 would agree with that. Yes, it's true like going back 382 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,000 to him break method and a lot of folks will know this about me to 383 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,500 break method is one of my followers. 384 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,800 Oh, it's the path that I followed. 385 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,900 There's his story of Jacob in Genesis where he actually goes 386 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:37,700 into Jacob's Ladder. It's a terminology that. 387 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,000 I'm sure. Many of our viewers will be 388 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 familiar, with is Jacob's. Not hear the dream ladder, sure. 389 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,800 Jacob's, Ladder really wasn't built or he wasn't able to see 390 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,200 it without one of the key elements that we're talking 391 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,400 about here. It says, when he took a rock and 392 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,000 he put his head on it, he came to a certain place and he fell 393 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,800 asleep. Well, that certain place can be 394 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,000 defined in the Hebrew as when he had a head-on encounter with the 395 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,500 divine. But that was because he made his 396 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,500 bed and he laid in it like literally he did like he found 397 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:07,800 that place. Between himself and his higher 398 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,400 power and he really and he stepped into a portal and that 399 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,000 really is the onus is on us as well, to be able to step in 400 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,000 activate into those places. So for our view is, there can be 401 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,700 many different things. Some, it could be, you know, 402 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:25,700 just listening to the birds tweet outside in the evening. 403 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:29,300 Like as the breeze is blowing across your back patio or it 404 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:33,100 could be sipping a coffee and reading poetry and just really 405 00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:36,400 getting into a calm space or it could be going for a Walk with 406 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,000 your dog and just meeting other dogs in the Dog trail just 407 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,800 heading to Golden. Retriever it just brings you Joy 408 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,200 and it calms you and it gives you that calm to be able to 409 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,900 enter into just that childlike space. 410 00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:51,600 Because you referred to this before, as, oh my goodness, that 411 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,000 you wish like you get to that place. 412 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,100 Like your kid is into as far as just like that activating 413 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:59,000 childlike place of dreaming that I do believe that, you know, as 414 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,900 human beings. We, you know, there's seasons of 415 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,100 life, we grow into different phases, young adults, and 416 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:06,000 adults, and eventually into seniors as we grow. 417 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:10,000 Later in life, but all of us, can cultivate the childlike Miss 418 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,700 of that, our spirituality of really being able to see the 419 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:17,400 kingdom of light in her dreams, you know, like, unless we become 420 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,800 converted as a child, we cannot see the kingdom of heaven. 421 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Like that's something that Jesus said, you know, whether people 422 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,100 believe in Jesus is not as God, whatever that stuff to them. 423 00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:27,100 But Jesus really was a real person. 424 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:29,400 He walked the Earth and that was one of his greatest teachings 425 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,100 was unless you convert and become like a kid, you can't see 426 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:36,300 the good stuff and I think that's something we can all Keep 427 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:40,500 in mind. Yeah, I just, I love how open 428 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:48,300 you are to the idea of moving over to to philosophical to 429 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:51,900 works all the way over to the, to the textbook side of things. 430 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:55,100 And I think that it's probably when it comes to when it comes 431 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,300 to sleep, when it comes to Dreaming, what we don't know 432 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:00,300 again, you almost got to throw the kitchen sink at it because 433 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:05,100 it makes things murky. There's no question about it. 434 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,400 We talk about mental illness. Mental health, mental, Wellness 435 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,700 podcast. I, I want to dive into. 436 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:12,900 So I want to start diving into two dreams and you can talk 437 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,000 about the method and how you interpret them, that kind of a 438 00:23:15,008 --> 00:23:17,600 thing. And I'm sure we're going down 439 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,800 that pathway very quickly. I just want to keep it really. 440 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,700 I want to start by asking something that's pretty 441 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:28,900 straightforward, and I think it's pretty Universal those 442 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:31,800 times where we have. Like, I think about that time. 443 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:36,700 Maybe you hit the snooze button or, or you know, About an hour 444 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:39,800 from waking up or something and you're in that little world 445 00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:42,800 where you don't know. If you're sleeping, you don't 446 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,800 know if you're awake and you're thinking and you're kind of 447 00:23:44,808 --> 00:23:48,200 cognizant but you're not. And then and then there are 448 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,200 those times where you know, you make decisions or you think 449 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,300 things. Oh yeah I'm going to remember 450 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:54,600 that. The moment I wake up and then 451 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,700 and then you don't, it's gone, it's slippery. 452 00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:59,400 It goes away very quickly and then there are those times as 453 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,800 well. That just before you wake up you 454 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,800 have a disturbing dream or a something does not necessarily 455 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:11,700 disturbing with something that That causes you to causes the 456 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:16,300 day to literally be set positively or negatively. 457 00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:21,800 Like, I've had days that have been not ruined, but really 458 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:25,600 tough days based on the last thing. 459 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,200 I dreamt of before I woke up and and, and I just want to maybe 460 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,100 talk a little bit about that before we start getting into the 461 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:35,900 method and the things like that. How I don't even know where the 462 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:38,800 Questions, I guess I'm going to format how close is our 463 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,900 day-to-day, mental Wellness, tied to the Dream from the night 464 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:46,300 before 100%. Like it's I'm a firm believer of 465 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,200 that. Like, you spoke about earlier 466 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,500 about, you know, not knowing whether you're awake or asleep 467 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,800 that would be was classified as lucid dreaming. 468 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,500 It's a journal sure you've heard of before but that's a state 469 00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:59,400 that all of us at one point or another will fall into in our 470 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,800 dream lives, just as we're waking up or as we're falling 471 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,400 asleep. Some people fall into it right 472 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800 when their head hits the pillow, some I'm awake and out of it as 473 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,800 they are waking up in the morning or even dead and the 474 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,700 dead of night and the second walk of the night with three or 475 00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:16,700 four in the morning, right? So how was your day? 476 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,800 I'm going to go parallel with an illustration with like movie 477 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,900 watching. Like I love movies but as a 478 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:25,000 visual person, I have to be super careful of what I put in 479 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,400 my eye gate because it can affect my mood, it can affect my 480 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,200 day can affect how I treat others. 481 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,900 My mood swings. So I liken that to if somebody 482 00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:39,600 Or they go to sleep watches like a horror movie or like some sort 483 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,500 of scary thing. And then they dream of all these 484 00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:43,300 sorts of weird creatures or something. 485 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,900 That's really like scary or they're being chased or boat to 486 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,700 be stabbed her. Because these are very common 487 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:50,800 dreams that I would say, okay. It's probably you need to do 488 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,100 inventory on what we're putting in front of our eyes, right? 489 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:56,800 Like it's and everyone's going to react differently but for me 490 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,900 what we see in our Dream, there's a principle that I truly 491 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:05,000 believe in it, as what we see we become, or if we don't like what 492 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,900 we see, we We should partner with our higher power and really 493 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,800 release light into that. If it's something that doesn't 494 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,100 register right with with our spirit, our heart, because we'll 495 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:16,900 know, like, we'll have that gut check. 496 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,900 Then a dreamer actual say to our audience, to you Mike and our 497 00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:23,400 entire audience that you actually have whatever you see, 498 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,700 whatever is in your Metron, you have authority over. 499 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,800 And so sometimes I know some people when they wake up and 500 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 they think, oh man, this is just happened to me. 501 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,200 I'm a victim of this dream or it's just, I guess it just is 502 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,400 what it is, right? If we think that way and we've 503 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,600 all done it, I've done it myself. 504 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,200 To as I've learned through the dream realm growing up. 505 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:45,100 If we think that way, it'll eventually will manifest. 506 00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:48,200 If we allow that to happen and you're a total, you know, well, 507 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,700 more well versed than I am in the mental health realm, but 508 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000 it's, if we think that something that's happening to us, is 509 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,400 what's meant to be then? Eventually it will take root. 510 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:57,000 Yeah. Sure. 511 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Our presenters. Our perception becomes our 512 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,600 reality. Yeah. 513 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,200 So I would say we have authority to change whatever we don't like 514 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,900 to see and really flush that out. 515 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 I'd like to say that there are different types of Dreams. 516 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,900 There's inspiring dreams is good dreams. 517 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:11,700 There's God, dreams or light dreams. 518 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:15,200 There's futuristic dream of conditioning dreams. 519 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,800 And there's dark dreams and sometimes a dark dreams. 520 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,300 They just need to be flushed or what I like to say is there's 521 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,700 two sides to a coin and we'll get, this is where we get into 522 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:25,400 application here in a bit coin flipping. 523 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,000 So if you if there's something that's - usually the opposite is 524 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,200 what the higher, your higher power is saying to you. 525 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,000 Usually there's opposition those trying to lie to you, to say 526 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,200 that oh this isn't what's happening. 527 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,100 Well the opposite, usually, what's happening, and I mean, 528 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,300 okay, so take a mental Wellness perspective, you know the voice, 529 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,400 inside your head, you know, that that voice inside your head, 530 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,000 many times if we've talked about this in different ways, when 531 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:52,600 there's all sorts of ways you can talk about, you know, 532 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,000 conquering that voice inside your head, the perception 533 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,600 reality thing, if anybody who's out there who's listening to 534 00:27:58,608 --> 00:28:01,600 this, as a student of personal development, you know, very 535 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,500 quickly when you read, almost any personal development book, 536 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,400 it talks about the idea of quelling that voice that voice 537 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,500 telling you, you can't do it. That voice telling you you're 538 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:16,400 not enough that voice telling you you know all the things that 539 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:20,900 that that you don't. You don't want to hear whether 540 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,800 you recognize it or not. Now if I'm hearing you right, 541 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,200 that voice is also available when you're sleeping as well. 542 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,500 Like it's not like it's not like that thing is exclusive to when 543 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:34,600 we're awake. Yeah, that's right. 544 00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:35,100 Yeah. No. 545 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,800 It's Holy active in the night season. 546 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,400 And there's three Realms where one will dream three. 547 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,400 There are many different categories of dreams. 548 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,900 And you know, I've been doing this since I was six and you're 549 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,200 interpreting since I was 18 and there's a lot to packaged in a 550 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,100 small session, but I what I will say is that there's many 551 00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:55,300 different categories of dreams but we can their Rivers will 552 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,300 come back into three sources in my personal experience. 553 00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:02,300 In my belief is that dreams come from three Realms that come from 554 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,300 either from our higher power. So spirituality higher power Our 555 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,100 they come from the adversary. Meaning the one that doesn't 556 00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,500 want us to be able to communicate with our higher 557 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:15,400 power and then ourselves sometime, we can our own way 558 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,200 that's being. So there is there's three, 559 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200 different avenues that dreams come from. 560 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,600 And, you know, what do I mean by that will perfect example is 561 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:25,700 Dream from myself could be I, you know, I want to win the 562 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:27,700 lottery, want to win the lottery that dream of winning a lottery. 563 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,900 Well, that's, that's me. That's my psyche, hyping myself 564 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:34,300 up, and then dreaming that in the night season, a Dream from 565 00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:36,600 the adversary of the one who doesn't Me to communicate with 566 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:39,500 my higher power, could be something opposite from who I 567 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,000 am. So, just think of think of an 568 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 attribute or trait that you are, and just flip it in the negative 569 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,100 and that's probably not coming from your higher power, right? 570 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,800 So that's anything is dark, anything? 571 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,300 It doesn't Inspire anything that wants to keep you down is 572 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800 probably not a god dream or a higher power dream. 573 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,900 And then the one that's the ones that are brilliant and glorious 574 00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,200 and beautiful. Want to get to is the ones that 575 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,500 come from our higher power that give us direction to give us 576 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,000 inspiration that make us feel like we got to jump in our step 577 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,900 and we wake up. So that's just a A very brief 578 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:09,700 overview of that, but yes, you are correct. 579 00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:13,400 My friend in the night season. The invitation is there there 580 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,600 are many different voices competing for our attention and 581 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,000 that's what we got a communiqué cultivate that that intimacy 582 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,900 with their higher power. I love what you just said, how 583 00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:26,200 you categorize them. I'm going to once again try and 584 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,200 universalize this for everybody. The idea that that you could 585 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 take a take the dream that you have and you could just throw it 586 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,900 into one of three categories. Or he's, you know, and at that 587 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,600 point they're like I mean I think about the one where you 588 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:46,100 the middle one the one where it's an adversarial type thing 589 00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:51,400 and how we can actually take concrete steps to to looking at 590 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:58,600 that and even saying, okay, is this something that is a 591 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,100 positive message for my life, you know, is this something that 592 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:06,900 is going to cause me? You no harm. 593 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:09,800 If I dwell on these thoughts or these ideas. 594 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,200 Yes. So I can give myself permission 595 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,900 to let that go if I'm hearing you right? 596 00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,400 That that is an application that somebody could do if they have 597 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,100 one of those dreams that disturb them somehow. 598 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,000 Yes letting it go. Sometimes the best thing to do 599 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200 is just just to flush it like in sports you know this you've 600 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,200 interviewed people who are involved in sports commentary on 601 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,600 also as well as being in sports Rome as well as an athlete. 602 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800 You got to have the shortest memory possible when you ever 603 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Game doesn't go right. You gotta flush that experience 604 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000 and move on. So sometimes you just gotta 605 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,700 flush it. So, you know what, this isn't 606 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,900 for me, I refuse this. I do not allow this to stick 607 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:51,000 onto my being and then just move on. 608 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Sometimes you just do that other times. 609 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,900 It's like, you know what, maybe, you know, we look at the NHL 610 00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:59,000 playoffs right now. Sometimes a team goes deep and 611 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,800 then they fall short of their goal but they're disappointed 612 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,000 but they learn from it even though as a negative experience 613 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,400 and that That's where another onion layer of that second. 614 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,400 Tier of the adversary. I talk about adversarial time to 615 00:32:11,408 --> 00:32:14,200 talk about sometimes. There can be dreams where it 616 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,100 looks really bad. Like I've had countless probably 617 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:20,600 hundreds, if not thousands of people of interpret dreams about 618 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000 one-on-one or in my dream teams that have taken through these 619 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,400 different places over the years, where they thought that 620 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,900 something had no positive meaning whatsoever because it 621 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,400 looked dark. And then after myself and my 622 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,600 team spoke with them, they were amazed that that their higher 623 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400 power was actually communicating with them or Able to use 624 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,000 something that looked evil for good. 625 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,500 So has that. That's what I mean by that I I 626 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,700 love this. I'm curious when you're going to 627 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,300 write your book is. I hope I hope that's happening 628 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,800 sooner than later by the publisher. 629 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Okay. Well hey will you talk about 630 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,100 that you know you know my wife and I never thought that we 631 00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:01,300 would write a book but but we were so excited when it all 632 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:03,700 happened and all that stuff so we can we can definitely talk 633 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,500 about that before, okay. I think We're sitting, we've set 634 00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,700 a beautiful table here. I just want to, I'm going to, I 635 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,700 want to emphasize or put an exclamation point on something 636 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:18,500 that you said earlier because I think many times as humans, we 637 00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:24,400 don't necessarily give the power to the fact that our behaviors 638 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,200 while we're awake is going to affect not. 639 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,800 You know it's not a matter of if it's a matter of how much it's 640 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,500 going to affect our sleep our Dream Cycles, which Then affect 641 00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:40,600 our waking Cycles, moving forward, I'll give an example, 642 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,900 my wife and I and I mean, I think this is this is in Vogue. 643 00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:46,100 I think a lot of people can can relate to. 644 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:50,100 This are binge-watching series different shows. 645 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:53,800 Now it's not a matter of when it comes to content, you know, 646 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,700 watching a movie before you go to bed is one thing. 647 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,300 But, but now we're in this, this, this entertainment cycle 648 00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:01,200 where there's so much content out there. 649 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Seasons of TV shows are or, or You know, miniseries are are 650 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,100 released and people, binge-watch. 651 00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,300 And, and the entertainment industry is doing a very good 652 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:16,300 job of as they're finishing off an episode there. 653 00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:18,600 They're putting out a trail of breadcrumbs that is so 654 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,300 compelling. That folks are saying hey just 655 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,199 one more. Hey, just one more. 656 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,000 Oh it's only midnight 12 for instead of going to bed at 12 657 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,199 going to bed at 12:40 is fine. I'm just going to watch one 658 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,000 more. So what my wife and I did that 659 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000 with Breaking Bad. Like a lot of people did 660 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,699 Breaking Bad, got it. Got its popularity after it was 661 00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:43,600 first broadcast and when it was Benjamin, people really started 662 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,000 watching that show. And I remember there were a 663 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,199 couple of nights where my wife it became. 664 00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:54,400 It was so prevalent in our dreams that my wife even said, 665 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,200 hey look, we got to limit it to just a couple and we're going to 666 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,300 do it before. There's going to be a buffer 667 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,700 time when we finish the last episode. 668 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,700 And two, when we go to sleep because and I love the show, 669 00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,300 it's one of the best written, you know, pieces of 670 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:14,600 entertainment of all time as far as I'm concerned. 671 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:21,700 But very dark subject matter, you know, clever but holy smokes 672 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:24,800 and it can really mess around with you and the layers of how 673 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,000 that show was was created all the way to the colors of front 674 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,200 doors and different themes that were put in, like the layers of 675 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,700 what was put into that show, were multi to say the least. 676 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,900 And so I just was like okay yeah this is. 677 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,300 So if I'm going to dream about this is probably affecting my 678 00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:46,000 dreams multi-layered as well and things like that and the idea 679 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600 that you brought up earlier that you could actually have some 680 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,900 control over that and we can actually take some personal 681 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,500 responsibility while we're awake. 682 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:59,000 The idea that we probably as a species should do that more, 683 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100 especially here in North America in 2022. 684 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:04,900 At the time of this broadcast, we probably should pay more 685 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:08,500 attention. To what we're doing before we go 686 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,100 to sleep for that very matter, would you agree. 687 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,700 Obviously agree with that 100%. I think the terminology that 688 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:19,400 we're all familiar with that sometimes we just need to unplug 689 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,000 from society like it. Sometimes we just need a 690 00:36:22,008 --> 00:36:24,500 sabbatical, sometimes need a vacation, that's why, you know, 691 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:28,100 those ever all of us who got work and jobs, we get a certain 692 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,900 amount of time and vacation that our work, our employer or 693 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,500 business or that. We take for our self because 694 00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:36,400 human beings. We're a poor. 695 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,700 Amazing creatures were built to do many things but human beings. 696 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,000 We all have. We all have a gas tank just like 697 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,700 our vehicle. And if we are running on auto 698 00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:49,200 like just 100 miles an hour on the highway, we're not stopping 699 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,000 for a rest. Eventually the car is going to 700 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,100 crash burn and we're not going to get the sleep and we're also 701 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:58,500 not going to be able to see the bigger picture because I think 702 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:02,600 really the mpa which is scientific term for multiple 703 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,400 perspective, Advantage. Most people. 704 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,800 Are not cultivating that we're not cultivating that we I say 705 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,900 myself because I'm preaching to myself as well. 706 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,800 We don't cultivate that as much as nearly as we should. 707 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,600 And I myself, I love there's certain shows that I love to 708 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,500 watch your binge-watch have been wash, but I find for myself 709 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:23,100 because I'm a very visual person, is somebody that I fall 710 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:24,500 asleep at a certain time of the evening. 711 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:27,200 And if I'm staying late, late past that, and probably gonna 712 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,200 take me a while to get sleep or my dreams are going to be 713 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200 affected. So I have to rush in that just 714 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,200 about myself as well, too, but it's just about knowing herself, 715 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,900 but also, Knowing when it's time to turn the tap off, thank you 716 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,300 for. I think that that's an important 717 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:46,600 aside, that's something that I think many folks just don't even 718 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,500 consider it. It's not even a, they just don't 719 00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:51,200 even consider it even a little bit. 720 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,900 And, and, and I think that if we did start considering that, and 721 00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:59,200 if we, if we made sleep and sleep preparation for lack of a 722 00:37:59,207 --> 00:38:03,000 better term, a little ceremony more ceremonial in. 723 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,400 Maybe, it's not even that strong, but, but, but Routine 724 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,200 anyway, is very, very important. And if you want to, again, set a 725 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,500 table for a really nice dinner. If you want to set the stage for 726 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:16,800 a really good sleep, that does recharge you as best you can 727 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,500 that does enhance what the next day is going to be. 728 00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:22,600 And there's all sorts of personal development stuff with 729 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,200 that people, talking about reading their goals before they 730 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,400 go to bed, people talk about journaling, before they go to 731 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,800 bed, the different things that you can do to kind of program. 732 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,000 Not just your sleep but your next day powerful things that I 733 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,400 don't. Get to. 734 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,300 That's the kind of shit that I think it should get taught in 735 00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:40,500 school. I think that people should learn 736 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:44,600 the power of what they can do with that for when we are kids 737 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,100 and you were clearly clearly taught that. 738 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,700 Let's go into it now, man. I mean, I think we've done a 739 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:53,200 good job of bringing people so far. 740 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000 Let's let's talk a little bit about the dream interpretation 741 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,700 now and I don't know how to move into the the conversation, this 742 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,300 phase of the conversation with you other than to say. 743 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,900 Okay. So If I had a dream of impact of 744 00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,500 some sort, whatever it might be in any of those categories if 745 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:15,300 there was some sort of dream of note or impact care one. 746 00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:17,000 Yeah. Sure was a short one. 747 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,200 If you've got one right now, my god well I okay. 748 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,800 I mean there's one that I'm certain is because of the 749 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,900 individual the way that you categorize the three. 750 00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:28,400 I appreciate how you you did it. I've had well okay I'm about to 751 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,300 talk about another podcast that I do II host, the David 752 00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:35,000 Letterman podcast and actually we're making a documentary about 753 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,300 it called the The host of the Letterman podcast, what does a 754 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,900 guy from western Canada, doing hosting a David Letterman 755 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:45,600 podcast that that seems to be maybe potentially moving towards 756 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,300 becoming the official ish Letterman podcast? 757 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,800 How is that happening? Why is it happening in all of 758 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,800 that? So I will go back to the dream 759 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,200 part. Before I made the decision to do 760 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,800 this, there was a whole bunch of factors people who work for the 761 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,500 show, talking to me all that. And this is one of those things 762 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:06,500 where it's my dream job. Job, not that. 763 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,600 I'm ever going to get paid for it or anything like that, but I 764 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,600 get so much fulfillment from it. It's not even funny. 765 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,400 And we're only, you know, a dozen episodes in and it's 766 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,700 already and folks who work for the show or talking to me. 767 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,800 And it's just we've actually it's already been put in front 768 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,600 of Dave himself and it's just it's a crazy impactful thing 769 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,600 just personally for me and it's amazing. 770 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,400 I love it. So, so, so much I had I've had 771 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,200 two dreams about it. Now, one of the dreams was when 772 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,500 I was I think for it and and, and utilizing some of the 773 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,900 relationships I have with people who work for the show and that 774 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,700 sort of a thing. I was really tunnel-visioned in 775 00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:48,000 my Waking Life about the Letterman podcast. 776 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,100 It was the prep for it. It was creating the logo. 777 00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,600 It was, it was what's the tone of the show? 778 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,000 Going to be? What's the mission statement of 779 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,200 the show? All of these things. 780 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,600 I was thinking about that and I think a lot of folks can adhere 781 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,100 to that if they relate to that if they if they have ever had a 782 00:41:02,107 --> 00:41:06,600 new job or or maybe a new relationship or Started a new 783 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,300 business. Anything like that, where you 784 00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,300 just thinking about it a lot during your waking hours? 785 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,900 Yeah. And I remember, you know, one 786 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,800 day I was I was doing that kind of like the Breaking Bad Thing. 787 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,300 I spent a big chunk of the evening working on it when I 788 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:28,100 went to sleep the entire night, but it seemed like the entire 789 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:31,900 night was just reflected. Back at me, the Letterman 790 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:35,400 podcast, the Letterman podcast like like just the details of 791 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,800 it, I Come up with some ideas where I actually wrote them down 792 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,400 right away and they were things that implemented are implemented 793 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,900 into the show. So it was, it was creative but 794 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:52,000 it seemed very logic-based. I had another one though that 795 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,800 was, I mean if you want to categorize it as higher power, 796 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:59,000 it was, this is beforehand and this is when I made the decision 797 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,200 to do it and it was, it was it was like, it was like a 798 00:42:04,207 --> 00:42:07,100 thunderbolt, I Can't even describe the dream to you. 799 00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,600 Caleb like I don't remember it. I just remember what it felt 800 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,400 like when I woke up where it was like Mike you have to do this 801 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,700 like an asshole, we'll make we'll make time, you'll have 802 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,400 time around where you can still, you know, Hosea cast and run 803 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,900 your your financial business that you have and and and you 804 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:25,900 know you got your book and responsibilities with your book. 805 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:29,300 It's fine. You have to do this and we'll 806 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:32,600 make it work. Yeah, so those are two. 807 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,600 Those are two that are close to me right now that I can just 808 00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:38,900 Rattle off the top of my head. Yeah, your dream, your dream, 809 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:42,500 your spirit, man is confirming. What your I would say is like, a 810 00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,400 self conditioning dream of what you're chewing on that switch, 811 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,300 is your dream in the dates. You season would release to 812 00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:48,600 fulfill this dream of your heart. 813 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,600 So I say your dream is really just fulfilling what you've been 814 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,200 thinking about. So I would say that that would 815 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,500 probably be a self conditioning dream that probably came from a 816 00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:59,900 combination of yourself because you're thinking about during the 817 00:42:59,908 --> 00:43:02,300 day, but also your higher power as well, just confirming those 818 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,100 dreams and giving you more ideas, but if I can, I'm going 819 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,400 to give you an Example, and then packaged this and just give us 820 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,300 some little bit of tools to the audience, very dream that I 821 00:43:11,308 --> 00:43:15,800 interpreted for one of the festival leaders at the mountain 822 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600 Spirit Festival in Kamloops. If you're familiar with one at 823 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,900 Sun Peaks but the the Sun get each, beautiful, beautiful ski 824 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:27,700 resort and well, yeah, yeah, so the one of the main organizers 825 00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:32,200 there, she shared a dream with me and her dream was she was 826 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,400 riding on a donkey and she was going towards a city. 827 00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:37,500 Just off in the distance over this bridge. 828 00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:40,100 And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, the donkey just bucks 829 00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:42,600 are off and then just refuses to go any further. 830 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,600 And she's frustrated with this donkey, and the donkey refuses 831 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,100 to move, its feet are planted in the ground, and she turns the 832 00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:51,500 donkey and she starts talking to the donkey saying, okay, this 833 00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,600 journey is important. We need to go and eventually the 834 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,000 donkey just says, alright, what and taught actually talks back 835 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,000 to her and say, let's go. So they go off and towards the 836 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,800 city, and they reach the city, we reach this hotel, and then 837 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,600 the get into the lobby, there's all sorts of people. 838 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:10,800 Of different nationalities and leaders almost like arisaka 839 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,600 Paris, tots Aristocrats politicians and just different 840 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,800 leaders, sort of a tongue twister and she got front of 841 00:44:17,808 --> 00:44:21,700 them and she started talking and then and then she woke up and so 842 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:24,000 she's like Fuck. I mean is the whole audience is 843 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,700 laughing? I think. 844 00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,500 Okay. Silly donkey like talking to her 845 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:28,200 and say I won't go any further that kind of thing. 846 00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:32,100 So in dream language immediately, the first thing for 847 00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:35,600 our listeners because I'm going to condense a lot of stuff and 848 00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:38,200 Is so much stuff to learn for a dreams because as I say, I've 849 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,600 been doing this for a long time but just her some tools and keys 850 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,300 to get started for an appetizer. Moving forward to this when we 851 00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:47,500 look at a dream, the first thing that we should be asking 852 00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:50,300 ourselves for those taking notes, listening to podcast is 853 00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:54,100 what is this a picture of? So we ask yourself the question, 854 00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:58,600 why a donkey not a cult and why donkey and not a horse. 855 00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:01,800 So these different questions of why is there a donkey in this 856 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,400 person is dream as we're processing and listening to 857 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,600 that. And then The next thing is okay. 858 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,100 What is a donkey? A picture of? 859 00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:13,900 And so a donkey is you could say stubbornness or humility as well 860 00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:15,800 too. Because for those that follow 861 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,100 the Nativity Story, especially around Christmas time Jesus is 862 00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,400 parents. When they came to Bethel a road 863 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,000 on a donkey. And he's a very humble Steed. 864 00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:28,500 Very humble Steed. Not like a glorious War Horse or 865 00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,400 something like that. So so what I interpreted the 866 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,600 dream as to the listener saying, you know, your higher power is 867 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,200 calling you. To influencing leaders because 868 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,600 the hotels were a gathering of leaders. 869 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,900 Your influence with leaders is will be directly tied to your 870 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:50,400 humility and willingness to embrace a lowly Road in a wok 871 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,000 that might not make sense to you. 872 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,700 Wow. So that's it like that that like 873 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:04,100 in a dream we should be able to condense a dream into one or two 874 00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,500 or three sentences. Some people go on. 875 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,900 Along with their interpretations. 876 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,300 And there is a place for that, but I like to make it simple for 877 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:13,500 my, my audience and listeners. And also, people were sitting 878 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:18,300 there and one or two sentences and so, that for me, is for 879 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:20,000 hugest, shocked because I have no idea. 880 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,200 That was it, she saw some silly monkey and maybe she had just 881 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,500 been to the farm too many times, as he's just feeling of all 882 00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:28,900 these animals that she'd seen at the farmer know, it was a humble 883 00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:31,100 Steed. The Humble vehicle of her 884 00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,700 vocation, her calling is humility will be the key that 885 00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:39,900 gets her in front of me. Okay, so this is this is I love 886 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,300 this and I want to I want to go do a bit of a deeper dive on 887 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,700 this is because you said something there right at the end 888 00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:52,100 that I think. Is intrinsic of what we do when 889 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,000 it comes to dismissing shit that we dream about you. 890 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,200 The idea that okay, I was riding a donkey. 891 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,800 Okay, that was really silly. Okay, what I would dismissal, 892 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,900 right? But at the end of the day, our 893 00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:04,000 brain is the one or whatever you want to call. 894 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,200 But let's just keep it really, really simple. 895 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,100 Right now, our brain is the one that threw the donkey into our 896 00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:12,200 subconscious Vision like that. That happened. 897 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,200 It was there. If we dismiss it. 898 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,200 Okay, fine. But even asking the question, 899 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:23,000 why did my Just brain, which, by the way, way more in-depth and 900 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,700 intelligent, and as running a lot more that our conscious 901 00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:28,500 brain is right. You know, we can go, we could do 902 00:47:28,508 --> 00:47:30,800 an entire podcast. We have done entire podcast on 903 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,200 that the subconscious brain versus the conscious brain. 904 00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,900 But the idea your brain through the donkey in there. 905 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,300 Yep. And you can say silly dismiss, 906 00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:44,400 or hold on, you could just say okay, why a donkey? 907 00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:49,500 Yeah, and I think so many people don't even do that one. 908 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,100 One thing of noting it, I think that's a to me, that's, that's, 909 00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:57,400 that's profound. If you were to have a dream of 910 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,400 whatever, whatever it is, whether it's a fire truck, 911 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,900 whether it's what if there's a striking image in the dream that 912 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:06,600 you remember, why that? And then and then doing a little 913 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,300 bit at like, at what point then do you say, okay, well, what 914 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:10,800 does a, what is a donkey represent? 915 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,700 Let's do some Googling, let's do some whatever. 916 00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,800 Let's just do a little bit of digging as to what you know, a 917 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,300 fire truck, might represent something things like that. 918 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:22,400 Is that Tongue. Is that going down the path of 919 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,100 how we can maybe analyze ourselves if we're going to do a 920 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,800 little bit of bitterness. Absolutely. 921 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,300 Yeah. No. 922 00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:35,100 It's and it's I like to say the craziest people in the world are 923 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:37,200 the ones that don't talk to himself. 924 00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:39,900 So the most sane people in the world are the ones that do talk 925 00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,000 to themselves. So, we need to have this 926 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,200 internal dialogue in our in our minds. 927 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,200 And we're talking about mental health and everything. 928 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,100 Positive mental health is when we're having these 929 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,000 conversations. A she's especially dealing with 930 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,200 what we're getting in the night in the night season because 931 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,300 there's such a an Alice in Wonderland is such an amazing 932 00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,800 Willy Wonka. Charlie fact, Chocolate Factory 933 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,400 of just beautiful treats and yes, you're correct like 934 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,100 Googling can help but also looking things up, but really 935 00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:07,500 just like to no two snowflakes are alike. 936 00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:09,600 No two dreamers are alike, right? 937 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,400 So when I'm interacting with someone who's a dreamer and 938 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,500 they're sharing their dream, like this lady, shared with me. 939 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,300 I'm asking questions as well too and really get to know the 940 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:23,700 dreamer because a Maybe for me, I just so ready for some body 941 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:25,500 else. Maybe a donkey as soon as it's 942 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:28,800 your donkey, a dream immediately brings trauma because a donkey 943 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,300 threw them off when they broke their leg once. 944 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,400 Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 945 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,100 So this personal experience with this experience? 946 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,000 Yeah. So like it's good and for her 947 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000 thankfully donkeys were positive thing and you know, so when I'm 948 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,500 interacting with dreamers am always asking the questions as 949 00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:45,800 well. What does this mean to you? 950 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,600 What does that mean to you? Or they could have dreamed of 951 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,100 somebody or a person that they recognize and Life, right? 952 00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:55,400 So so yes Google can definitely be helpful but the same time, I 953 00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,300 know a lot of dream interpreters out there all like to pigeonhole 954 00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:02,800 things into a formula. And I know that as we started 955 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,800 here in the conversation at this podcast, you're just into 956 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,900 flowing and what's right in the moment of what we're both 957 00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:09,900 talking about, as opposed to doing too much prep work. 958 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:13,800 So with dream interpretation it snowing, first of all yourself, 959 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,400 but also getting to know the dreamer that sharing the dream 960 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,000 as well as to and for ourself. Interpreting our own dreams and 961 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,800 often be the most difficult because we're on biggest 962 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,500 critics. So that's why it's great to do 963 00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:29,400 this in unity like Hebrews. Did hebraic method, here is the 964 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,500 Israelis the Hebrews, the, the Middle Eastern, people's the, or 965 00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,200 the even Egyptians as well, to make the hieroglyphics and all 966 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,300 kind of stuff. And especially in the Middle 967 00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:40,500 East, they build whole communities on having breakfast 968 00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:42,300 or lunch or dinner and sitting around lunch table. 969 00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:45,000 A dinner table talking about what they dreamed in the night 970 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 season that's their culture like that. 971 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,300 That's what they talk about as opposed to our Western culture. 972 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,800 Not saying it's bad, talking about laser show or movie, but 973 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,300 it pales in comparison, movies and shows and entertainment 974 00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:59,200 because their man's interpretation, which is a 975 00:50:59,207 --> 00:51:01,600 beautiful thing. But I think things are come from 976 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,900 our spirit, their prices. You really can't take that away 977 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:05,600 from somebody. When they get a dream in the 978 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,900 night season, it is incomparable. 979 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,800 Oh, wow. I love. 980 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,200 It's almost poetic how you speak. 981 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:17,200 I love your language. I love the language of dream, 982 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,400 interpreters, or just Caleb for that matter. 983 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:23,100 I love I love your vocabulary and how you how you spell this 984 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:26,200 out, the idea that people get together and they can talk about 985 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,100 their dreams. I think that we have done a very 986 00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:31,900 good job at the Society of beating the crap out of even 987 00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:34,000 remembering our dreams, that kind of a thing. 988 00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:38,400 I've got a lot of stand-up comedians in my life and and 989 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,400 they talk about the Muse and inspiration and whatnot because 990 00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:45,800 you know, literally anything at any time, including when they're 991 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,400 sleeping, could be the premise for a bit. 992 00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:52,900 Or what they're going to perform and and many of like I think 993 00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:55,900 about even the most famous thing about Larry David, you know, you 994 00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:58,400 one of the creators and writers of Seinfeld Curb Your Enthusiasm 995 00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:00,700 a performer in his own, right. You know, he talks about how he 996 00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:03,400 brings his notepad with him wherever he goes. 997 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,600 And and because the idea shows up and it goes out and it's like 998 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,500 this. I think dreams are very similar 999 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,700 and the society that you explained in the Middle East or 1000 00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:17,800 societies that focus on dreams may be the way that we have 1001 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,400 focused on entertainment over here, maybe. 1002 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,300 That that might be there might be an essay or something in 1003 00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:27,800 there with that but the idea of what you just discussed, I think 1004 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,400 it's just like kit. You mentioned Sports earlier, a 1005 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,600 bunch of kids who play hockey, okay? 1006 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,300 You know. They're they're they're shaky 1007 00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:35,800 there wobbly. They fall all the time. 1008 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:42,600 They missed the puck, you know, they're very, very amateurs, but 1009 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,100 you do it long enough. You focus on it long enough and 1010 00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,000 and suddenly you can become almost an artist on the ice, And 1011 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000 do that kind of thing. If somebody wanted to take note, 1012 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,300 if they hurt our podcast today and realized, you know what, my 1013 00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,300 brain is coming up with all of this stuff, I need to pay 1014 00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:04,300 attention more to what my, what is coming out of my brain or and 1015 00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:07,600 the spiritual realm, whatever, whatever interpretation the The 1016 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,600 Listener or viewer wants to, you know, except I want to pay 1017 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,100 attention to this a little bit more. 1018 00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:16,500 Is it the same as Larry, David having a notepad? 1019 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:18,100 So if he wakes up in the middle of the night and he's got a 1020 00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:20,100 notepad beside his bed, any rights Down. 1021 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:24,000 Is that, is that the move? What is the way to because, I 1022 00:53:24,008 --> 00:53:27,300 mean, famously, we all, we all forget our dreams right away. 1023 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,700 Can we get out of that habit? And what are some steps that we 1024 00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:35,000 can do to pay attention more to these things? 1025 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,400 Yes, practical tools is very good question. 1026 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,500 I love that and really a journal journaling journaling journaling 1027 00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,800 journaling. I absolutely am a dream journal 1028 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,600 of full of full-on dream journal is the way a full-on dream 1029 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,200 journal like, having a journal like next to next year. 1030 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:51,800 Abed really, what that does is one. 1031 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,300 You're showing your subconscious, but also your 1032 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,600 higher power, whatever you believe your higher power, where 1033 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,000 the dreams funnel is coming from your placing, an importance on 1034 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,800 that. Yeah, just like quality time 1035 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,300 when we spend time with our spouse or girlfriend boyfriend, 1036 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,100 or his kids, or family, or acquaintances, or just friends 1037 00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:13,600 quality time. Really means to the person or 1038 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,900 the person you're interacting with that, you putting a value 1039 00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:17,600 on this. And the same thing is is when we 1040 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,300 have a dream journal, we got a pen. 1041 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,600 We got that next to our bed, we're going to bed early. 1042 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,600 We're creating that REM dream. Like incubator that those 1043 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,900 things. Especially Journal getting to 1044 00:54:29,908 --> 00:54:32,900 bed, early knowing what our limit is knowing your limit and 1045 00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:33,800 stay within it. Right. 1046 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,200 You know when you're when you're having a good time partying or 1047 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,900 drinking a nice drink or whatever. 1048 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,500 The same thing is with this journaling and writing them 1049 00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:43,900 down. When we wake up to not 1050 00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:46,300 procrastinate and being like all, just walk the dog or I'll 1051 00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,600 go have a drink a coffee or I know I've been working. 1052 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,000 At the news and see what's up with the news. 1053 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,100 As soon as you do that, I would say 998 percent of the time, the 1054 00:54:54,107 --> 00:54:57,100 dream is going to fizzle away. Next few moments, going to be 1055 00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:58,900 gone, then you re like I do that. 1056 00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:02,400 So I'm looking, like not be, gotta write that stuff down or 1057 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,700 even like to say some people work well, in pictures. 1058 00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:08,200 So because say, someone dreams epic least, not all dreamers are 1059 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,300 like some Can Dream short clip dreams. 1060 00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:13,600 Some Can Dream long five, six, seven, eight, nine pagers. 1061 00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:16,800 And for the people that I want to speak to, who are long 1062 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400 dreamers, who had these epic dreams that are afraid that. 1063 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:23,100 They start writing down those start forgetting draw pictures 1064 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,100 like draw pictures to categorize the different chapters of your 1065 00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:31,800 dreams so that you can recall. What's underneath that pie and 1066 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,600 really know what's the content inside. 1067 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,500 So if your typical thousand words right, yeah, picture 1068 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:37,300 picture. That was the worst. 1069 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:41,000 Oh, picture journaling or word, journaling writing them down or 1070 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,200 even voice recorder as well too, but I know it's tough sometimes 1071 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,100 when you wake up in the middle of the night or I wake up in the 1072 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,600 middle, the night it's like 4:00 in the morning, you're really 1073 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,900 tired but But sometimes you don't have a window if you fall 1074 00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:53,500 back asleep. All remember the morning and you 1075 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:56,200 don't tell everyone dreams differently. 1076 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,000 So having a journal is important, having a REM sleep 1077 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,800 incubating. Environment is also important 1078 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,600 and really, just and I know it sounds really cliche, but I know 1079 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,600 I want to be sensitive to our audience, whoever, you know, 1080 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,400 listening to everyone's at different points of 1081 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,800 spirituality, or they're just their mental health, but I 1082 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,300 really believe in the power of prayer and asking, you know, 1083 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,700 Like it when you're asking your parents for something, or you're 1084 00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:25,100 asking a friend for something, I really believe speaking the word 1085 00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:28,800 and speaking, see something out and believing it and calling it 1086 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,900 to season, the things of our future is really an important 1087 00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:32,800 thing. You'll understand this. 1088 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,900 Look at all the things that you're doing with David, 1089 00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:37,200 Letterman and podcast show and all the different connections 1090 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,900 you have. We don't speak it out. 1091 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,200 Yeah. If we don't speak the word, it's 1092 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,600 not going to happen. If we don't manifest it, it's 1093 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,000 not going to it's not going to produce in the real world so 1094 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,700 well. And this is this is where men 1095 00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:50,300 are at right now. Now, and I mean, I hate that 1096 00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:52,500 time gets those slippery in these things and I feel like 1097 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:55,200 we're just getting started first off, please come back and let's, 1098 00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:58,600 let's, let's definitely continue on this conversation. 1099 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,500 And lets, you know, at the beginning of that show will tell 1100 00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:06,000 them to refer back to this show, and then watch the next one and 1101 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,800 listen to the next one because we can go a little bit deeper 1102 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,000 with it. But, I mean, you're preaching to 1103 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,800 the choir when it comes to men's mental Wellness out there, no 1104 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,200 matter who we talk to whatever their persuasion, whether it be, 1105 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,600 you know, from a coach or a counselor perspective. 1106 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,200 All the way to This all the way to folks who have battled with 1107 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,600 depression for 45 years. I mean, you know, Bruce Ross was 1108 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,100 a recent guest at our episode episode and I mean, he still 1109 00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,900 impacting I'm talking about it every single episode. 1110 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,900 He's you know the key is, whatever it is that we're 1111 00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:37,300 dealing with. It doesn't help to keep it 1112 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:39,600 inside. No matter what that is. 1113 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,200 Whether it's I want a new job, okay. 1114 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,300 Well, guess what, you're not getting a new job, you know, at 1115 00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:47,600 least tell somebody about it and then and then, of course, you 1116 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,300 know, create the actions to move. 1117 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,100 And towards that. But there are so many men out 1118 00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,900 there. Again, cliche I hate using the 1119 00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:56,400 cliche, but living that quiet, life of desperation, because 1120 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,600 they're not saying anything. And, and I think, okay, many 1121 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,700 people can wrap their head around the idea that okay, I 1122 00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:05,100 want a new job. I'm not gonna get a new job 1123 00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:08,100 unless I tell somebody something about it and start talking about 1124 00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,100 it. If I talk about it, it can. 1125 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,500 It's amazing how quickly things can happen taking that same 1126 00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:19,200 concept and applying it to our sleep cycle. 1127 00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:21,700 Things that we interpret in our sleep cycle, the dreams, all 1128 00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:24,100 that kind of stuff. Holy cow. 1129 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,900 That's a, that's a lightbulb moment for some people because 1130 00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:30,200 it's so easy and it was right in front of us the entire time, but 1131 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,300 we didn't give it any Credence, you are taking your, you're 1132 00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:38,200 building a practice in a career of creating that lightbulb 1133 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,500 moment for people. It's really cool. 1134 00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:40,500 Caleb. Yeah. 1135 00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:44,700 It's like Narnia it's stepping through the door and saying, you 1136 00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:48,700 know, there is Aslan like if you don't say it out loud, don't see 1137 00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:50,100 it then. Guess what? 1138 00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:52,900 The rest of the heavens, he's missed, whereas land was in The 1139 00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:55,600 Prince Caspian book, I think, but Lucy was the one that saw 1140 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,300 Aslan and got to talk with Aslan? 1141 00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,700 I really feel like that's a whole illustration go down 1142 00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:02,600 another day, but really that to me, speaks about the dream 1143 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,700 realm. Everybody else was focused on 1144 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:08,100 the battle focused on the White Witch, but Lucy wanted to hear 1145 00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:11,400 it as line was talking about and that really is in liking to her 1146 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,000 dream language. So, yeah. 1147 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,300 It's taking a moment with all the chaos and all the things 1148 00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:17,800 that are happening, and I mean, chaos in a bad way necessarily, 1149 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,000 but when it comes to Okay. I dreamt just dumped all this 1150 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,800 stuff and zeroing in on one or two little things in it and just 1151 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,300 becoming aware about those things. 1152 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:32,400 And saying why practical beyond measure even though, yeah, you I 1153 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,600 love all of the analogies you're using, you're talking about the 1154 00:59:34,607 --> 00:59:36,800 Fantastic. You talk about, you know, the 1155 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,500 idea of Narnia, Lord of the Rings are Alice in Wonderland or 1156 00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:41,300 cello Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. 1157 00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:45,500 These are all Fantastical stories that could be stories 1158 00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:48,600 that come out of a dream and how fantastic they are. 1159 00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:52,600 And and I love that, that is the language that you're embracing. 1160 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,300 I think that we as a species, you know, could do well by by 1161 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,900 embracing that a little bit more in our own lives. 1162 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,400 I'm so grateful for this conversation. 1163 01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:07,900 Caleb, if anybody wants to connect with you out of this, 1164 01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:10,700 what's the best way to do it? What are you? 1165 01:00:10,700 --> 01:00:13,900 Moving your practice towards, let's just circle back and 1166 01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:16,000 finish up the podcast. Talking a little bit about you 1167 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,500 as our to what it is that you're doing. 1168 01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:20,000 What's the goal? For you. 1169 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,600 I mean you've got all this knowledge, both learned and 1170 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,300 practical advice that you could give others. 1171 01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:30,600 What's the, what's the end game for you and how do people want a 1172 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,700 key? Keep a contact me. 1173 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,700 For 3, 3 means of main mean would be email. 1174 01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:40,700 So encompassed by dreams at gmail.com, I can even write it 1175 01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:44,300 down later and have posted or whatever with the article with 1176 01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:50,200 the podcast but encompassed. So e and C 0 m PA ssed BBY 1177 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,400 Dreams.com encompassed by dream.com. 1178 01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:57,000 A Gmail, the accomplish my dreams at gmail.com and then 1179 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,300 Compass squadrons.com is the website, you can check it out. 1180 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:04,000 See, some of my obviously, what I've been up to and just what 1181 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,700 bring encompassed by dreams about and then as far as these 1182 01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:09,800 days, especially in the last couple of years because of all 1183 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,900 the stuff that's going crazy in the world of them, more of like 1184 01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:15,600 online podcast. I was doing a podcast for about 1185 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,500 a couple of years on a friend show that to recently wrapped up 1186 01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:21,500 just because she Using a different direction but doing a 1187 01:01:21,508 --> 01:01:25,600 lot of online podcast, a lot of Consulting online. 1188 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,500 So people want to get a hold of me. 1189 01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:31,500 We can do online, Zoom, one-on-one sessions, Reach Out 1190 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:33,100 by email. I always like to say that the 1191 01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:35,800 first couple questions on there on your dreams are 1192 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,800 complementary, but then, if you want to book a session, then 1193 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,700 there's a small session fee, but know that pre-pandemic as well 1194 01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:46,500 to parlor ice cream. I know the owner there Omar. 1195 01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,200 We used to set up a dream. Interpretation booths are in 1196 01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:52,200 Interpret dreams for people who would come and buy ice cream. 1197 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,500 Soul ice cream shop. That's fantastic. 1198 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,400 Yes. Oh, I I do it all. 1199 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,900 I do it all, whether it's important, whether it's online, 1200 01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:00,600 whether it's your email, whether it's on phone. 1201 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,100 So, Facebook, Instagram, you can reach me at and Compass by 1202 01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,400 dreams. I've got a hashtag on Instagram 1203 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,800 as well as Facebook as well too. So Caleb, I can't, I can't thank 1204 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,400 you enough for what it is that you're doing. 1205 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,100 Obviously you'll, I mean, you'll come back without saying without 1206 01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,000 you know, of course, you'll come back, right? 1207 01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:20,900 Yeah. Amazing. 1208 01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:26,200 I I can't thank you enough for learning this. 1209 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,500 You know there are some times when I meet somebody who has 1210 01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:32,300 learned something that is so specialized, you know, in a 1211 01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:34,500 million years. I don't I could never get that 1212 01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:37,700 specialized on something but at the end of the day, it's so 1213 01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:40,500 important and I need the help and I need to tether myself to 1214 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:43,100 something like that. That's what you're doing man. 1215 01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:44,700 And I just appreciate it so much. 1216 01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:47,400 I appreciate your heart and how much you want to give back to 1217 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,800 people. And thank you for following your 1218 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,900 inspiration, man, I really appreciate that. 1219 01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:56,400 It's a great example. For a lot of guys out there who 1220 01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:59,300 are following their following, their dreams, for lack of a 1221 01:02:59,308 --> 01:03:03,000 better term. And, and, and it's, it's we 1222 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,600 giggle about it, but it's the total truth, it's through 1223 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,800 totally the truth. You are doing what I believe 1224 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,900 that you are doing what you are called and purpose to do. 1225 01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:17,200 Hmm, thank you very much Mike for having me on the show and I 1226 01:03:17,207 --> 01:03:20,000 really appreciate the opportunity and All the speak 1227 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,600 true player privilege and honor and thank you audience. 1228 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,200 For those of you who listen to this Podcast, May your dreams be 1229 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,600 fill of light, and may you have deep sleep and lots of dreams to 1230 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:33,000 be able to your own allowed. Could not have said it better 1231 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,000 myself. Could not be a better ending to 1232 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,500 this podcast. Once again, he changed it.com 1233 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,700 for all the information on. He changed it and compassed by 1234 01:03:43,700 --> 01:03:46,200 dreams.com. If you want to know more, if you 1235 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,700 want to go further down that rabbit hole with Alice and And 1236 01:03:49,700 --> 01:03:54,200 Caleb will be your guide. Just this has been a fantastic 1237 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,200 conversation. I love this. 1238 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,100 It's the highlight of my week, anytime I get to do and this 1239 01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,900 week we shot like four episodes. So I've had four major 1240 01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:06,000 highlights of My Week, shooting he cast again, he changed 1241 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,100 it.com, download the app jump in. 1242 01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:13,700 See the growth of what is going to be a gigantic thing in its 1243 01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:15,700 infancy. It's very cool to be part of 1244 01:04:15,707 --> 01:04:17,700 something at the beginning and that's where we're at right now. 1245 01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:20,300 And you ain't seen nothing yet. My name is Mike. 1246 01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:22,700 Chisholm. I am the host of he cast the 1247 01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:24,900 official podcast of he changed it. 1248 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,400 Go change something.