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Hello out there I'm Ross Kenny 
and I'm the host of reversing 

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climate change. 
This is a climate podcast unlike

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any other climate podcast that's
out there and I'm going to tell 

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you why the show was started in 
the summer of 2017. 

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It was an effort of a company I 
Co founded called Nori, which is

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one of the world's first carbon 
removal companies very early in 

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the days of commercial carbon 
removal. 

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So the podcast is a big effort 
in trying to communicate to 

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people why carbon removal 
existed at all. 

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It was literally that early 
where people didn't know about 

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it, how carbon markets work, 
which they're to this day still 

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pretty confusing and hard to 
understand. 

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And in those early days, I was 
concerned that we're going to 

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run out of things to talk about 
and somehow never did. 

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And I attribute that to just 
getting more and more 

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connections that were unexpected
with climate change until 

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essentially everything can 
connect to climate seen through 

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the right set of eyes. 
And I've really made it my job 

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to find as many, as many 
intersections as I possibly can 

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that are interesting to me. 
When you do something creative 

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like this, it's actually really 
hard to know if a show is good 

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or not. 
The main way that I can tell if 

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a show is good, as if I can get 
excited about it, it's basically

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the only way I know if it's good
or not. 

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So I try to only produce those 
shows that have my attention, 

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that keep me interested and are 
fittingly interesting, unlike 

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other things that I've seen in 
other places for the most part. 

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And that even happens when 
there's guests that are on other

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climate podcasts that same week.
I often try to ask them 

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questions that are might throw 
them for a loop a little bit, 

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might make them think, might 
break them out of the out of the

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shtick that they often need to 
respond with. 

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Because they do this so often, 
they oftentimes need to have 

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questions that are weird that 
make them think about something 

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new and answer in a new way. 
So that's my commitment to you 

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as a listener. 
I am going to always try to find

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a strange show to make. 
I'm going to find things going 

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to be entertaining to me and 
it's going to make connections 

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that are maybe less common in 
other climate podcast. 

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And why do I do that? 
Just I've been doing this for so

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long, I don't want to just keep 
repeating myself and doing the 

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same kinds of shows over and 
over again. 

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Tom Waits, one of my favorite 
musical artist, has a line where

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he says 1's hands are like dogs.
They're always going back to 

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what they know. 
It's from his VH1 Storytellers 

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album. 
It's really good. 

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And I think it's the same here 
too, where if you're only doing 

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shows that are right over the 
plate, carbon removal companies,

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climate tech, climate policy, I 
think at some point you can give

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updates on those things, but 
that's not enough that that 

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becomes utilitarian. 
You're there for an explicit 

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purpose. 
There's not a lot of joy or or 

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strangeness or, or other things 
that make life interesting and 

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worth living to focus on. 
So I often times I'm trying to 

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find these connections, the 
things that, you know, I've done

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a lot of shows on theology and 
literature, history, war, 

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geopolitics, the long term arc 
of history, the teleology of the

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human species, critical theory, 
the conservative intellectual 

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tradition, and a lot elsewhere. 
Maybe this just isn't taking 

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place. 
And if for no other reason, it's

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because I'm interested in all 
those things and I can see their

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application to a field like 
climate change. 

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I did the year of PhD work in 
political philosophy before 

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deciding it wasn't the right fit
for me. 

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And I had a career in filmmaking
because I still was very 

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passionate about ideas and I 
found my way into climate tech 

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entrepreneurship through there. 
But I've always been interested 

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in the humanities and some of 
these intellectual disciplines 

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that are maybe left common in 
this space because climate tends

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to be hard science oriented. 
A lot of STEM folks, scientists,

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engineers, and I don't want it 
to only be that because we also 

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need people who come from lots 
of different traditions to make 

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us more robust, to help us 
think, to approach things in a 

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more holistic and humanitarian 
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I'm not even sure that's the 
correct adjective to approach it

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from a humanities and social 
science lens, which is frankly 

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less common. 
So that's what I do, That's why 

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I'm here. 
It's very fun for me to do it 

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this way. 
I almost ended up in carbon 

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removal just by historical 
accident. 

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That's how it happens with life 
sometimes. 

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But I'm really grateful to be 
here. 

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I pull my share of guests from 
all of the fancy places, too. 

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We've got winners of the Oscar, 
Grammy, Pulitzer, James Beard, 

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MacArthur, genius Pulitzer. 
Did I say Pulitzer? 

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All of the big fancy things 
that, you know, we get them on 

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too. 
That's, that's fine. 

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But what I'm really looking 
forward is to make shows that 

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are different. 
That's what I want to leave you 

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with it. 
This is a show that is trying to

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find stories that would be 
unlikely to be told, ideas that 

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would be unlikely to be explored
in other climate podcasting 

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venues. 
So thanks for being here. 

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I hope you like it. 
If you like the show, please 

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Reversing climate change needs 
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justifiable. 
I could be doing other things 

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with my time. 
I really love this. 

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I want to share it with people. 
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a pretty good deal to show your 
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To make sure this is worth 
continuing, I'm exploring 

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various ways to add features for
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I have various episodes that are
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It's a certain extended moment. 
Sometimes people will we'll get 

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into a a topic on a podcast that
is a really interesting, but it 

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actually breaks the flow of the 
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And I'm trying to cut those and 
produce those as stand alone 

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little segments. 
So if you want more, I will make

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sure you get more. 
I'm trying to find ways to limit

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I'm trying to figure out a way 
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I also did this really fun thing
for the philosophy of science 

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show I did with Anu Khan and 
Holly Jean Buck. 

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We talked about Paul Faye, Robin
and Thomas Kuhn, but we launched

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into the discussion so quickly 
that it was clear that the 

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audience would not be able to 
follow without an intro. 

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So I recorded a 15 minute quasi 
freestyle intro about the 

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philosophy of science and and 
how these ideas work and why 

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they're important. 
It was a lot of fun. 

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I I want to do more monologuing.
I want to do more explaining. 

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So if there are things that you 
want me to address or explain or

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riff on in the kind of way that 
I like to do, that is something 

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that I will be making available 
for subscribers. 

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And I'm trying to get that going
now too. 

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But there's topics that you'd 
like to see, feel free to 

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comment here. 
Let me know. 

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You can do that on Spotify. 
I'm trying to just put more 

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video content out, which is also
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Whatever. 
I'm just trying to say, if you 

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It means a lot to me. 

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It'll help us get going, and I 
will try to keep building out 

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features that make it worth your
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So will you please subscribe if 
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I would be so grateful if you 
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Thanks so much for listening. 
In any case, I'm really excited 

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about the direction of this show
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to publish right now. 
So thank you again. 

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I hope you enjoy and thank you 
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