1 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:27,080 inside. Really, we're back again. 2 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Season 9, Episode 9.5. We're here, we're setting up the 3 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,720 camera and we're going live on Instagram. 4 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,880 Yeah, I'll hear from N2 Electrical here in Ashbourne. 5 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,760 And like we were saying last week, it's it's something that 6 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,080 we've been asked to do for the last couple of weeks now. 7 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,560 Just hadn't had the time to organize it. 8 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,320 But yeah, really looking forward to jumping on the lads on the 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,480 Instagram lives. Yeah, just interesting to see 10 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,520 what's going on out there while people are down. 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,640 And if anybody's got any questions, throw them our way 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,400 during this live and we'll be sure to answer them. 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Maybe not correctly, but we'll answer them. 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Yeah, look, we've had recent safe electric inspections myself 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,560 and yourself the last couple of months. 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,320 And after getting check in and talking with inspectors about, 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,880 you know, some of the insurance and outs and some of the little 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,200 nitty, bitty bits that, you know, most people want to know 19 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,080 about, we've asked the questions and we have the answers now. 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,040 So yeah, let's jump into it. Yeah, like I always say, this 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,040 podcast is coming to you sponsored by Snickers Work 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,560 where? Ireland. 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 And also in association with Hagar Ireland as well. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Yeah, and like we always say, it's coming here from N2 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Electrical in Ashbourne. And I'm Stephen Buckley. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,640 I'm Keith Allahan. Let's get into it. 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Let's jump into it. What's the story everyone? 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:56,160 It's a long time since we did a live cheers out. 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Sound Snickers sound to Hager Ireland and sound to and to 30 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,640 Electrical for hosting this season. 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:12,040 We're up to episode 9 already and we've just completed episode 32 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,960 9 of season 9 tonight where Adam Powell from Powell installations 33 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,080 last minute booking but turned out to be a global. 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Yeah, now 100% to local ad to Bob Reagan where we're from. 35 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,880 So took the gig on short notice as well, doing really well with 36 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 his, with his company and his business. 37 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,120 So and our lads have been calling for business owners to 38 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,360 come in and share their insights into how how things are going 39 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,520 out there. And especially in the in the 40 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,320 world of renewables and everything energy efficient and 41 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,320 you know, the fuel crisis and all that kind of stuff. 42 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,760 There's no better that we had Mr. Cantwell in a couple of 43 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,760 weeks ago when we were recently talking to Pete the builder. 44 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,200 So it's kind of a hot topic at the minute. 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,440 So add these one of the guys on the ground and is doing really 46 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,520 well, so fair play to him for coming in as well. 47 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Handy at the football as well he was. 48 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,200 Yeah, I look, it's great to be able to get people in from the 49 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,120 local town. Like I think we spoke to so many 50 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,200 people now over the course of the last nine seasons from all 51 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,400 over Ireland and Canada and Australia and England. 52 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,400 And to be able to bring it back, try Anglo is localized and the 53 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Barb rigging and support local businesses. 54 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,000 And even just through chat like that, like, I mean, getting the, 55 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,960 the business name out there and, you know, just supporting guys 56 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,360 that like you've grown up and seen lads from the town do well 57 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 is, is, you know, probably one of the most important things 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,040 that we can do. No, and it was good to hear from 59 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,200 him about the the effects of social media and how, you know, 60 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,480 marketing and putting money into market and has transformed his 61 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,840 business. And he's he's obviously done his 62 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,520 homework and trains the business model for his company and it's 63 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,400 obviously showing dividends now at the minute. 64 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,760 So yeah, it's good for me to hear that because we don't 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,160 actively do that. So we'd be very top heavy with 66 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,360 the contracts work. So Adsi was sharing a great 67 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,760 insight and how to getting out to get more of the private work 68 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,640 through the door. Yeah, I think. 69 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:30,520 For. This isn't being so trade heavy 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,800 again, the odd little interview in there with the likes of Ian 71 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Brennan and with the likes of, you know, any type of order 72 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,280 trade, if it was art or even down to talking to to managers. 73 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:47,680 And so far, lads who are especially working within the, 74 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,480 the energy efficiency sector, yeah, it's sort of been a game 75 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,360 changer for us to be able to sort of develop and, and grow 76 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,760 and learn as well. Like through even the start of 77 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,120 this season with Design Source and Adele and linking in with 78 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,920 Adele and having conversations about, you know, being able to 79 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,520 step out there in the RDS and have conversations with 80 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:19,400 different, you know, avenues of, of levels to the, the game that 81 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,840 you know, you'd be controlling and, and, and setting up and 82 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:27,440 installing the final product that these people are providing, 83 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,360 You know what I mean? So to be able to, to, to get 84 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,720 talking to these people who are at the ground level, like, who 85 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,960 are creating design and, and supporting the industry from 86 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,720 the, the ground up. Like is, you know the amazing 87 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,120 part, Like, you know. Yeah. 88 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,680 And 100% and they're getting people in that, you know, no 89 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,440 more than us and the different sectors as well, you know, 90 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 really helps. It helps us and it helps what 91 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:57,480 you look on me. In and on there. 92 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:00,480 I mean, and how's it going? How how are you? 93 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,760 How's things? Yeah, Paul, we're just talking 94 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,960 about renewables, something that you've been you've been talking 95 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,960 about lately as well. So it's hot topic over here in 96 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,720 Ireland at the minute. I'm sure it's the same over 97 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:20,280 there in terms of the fuel shortages, fuel prices and, you 98 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:24,160 know, bills going up. So we just had to go in Adam, 99 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,680 from Powell Installations. They had a shared a great 100 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,560 insight into, you know, improving your home energy bills 101 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,720 and insulation and stuff like that as well and how to promote 102 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,400 your business online. So yeah, it was a great little 103 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,320 insight. Hope you're keeping well as 104 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:51,680 well, Pop. Literally a hot topic gold rush 105 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Atlante yeah, gold rush, but I'd be careful with gold rushes, 106 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,400 don't you Paul? And making sure that quality is 107 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,680 kept as well. A lot of lads get jump on the 108 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:06,680 bandwagon and I know it's it's prominent over here with solar 109 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,520 companies popping up every every couple of hours and taking 110 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,120 advantage of the whole situation, which is not is not a 111 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,800 good thing. So yeah, good, good for lads 112 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,440 that are established and you know, maybe might have been 113 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,800 struggling a couple of months ago. 114 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,480 I know we kind of went a little bit quieter on the solar front 115 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,320 and energy retrofits are huge here in Ireland at the minute. 116 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,720 The grant is quite good. So you know, if you're good and 117 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,200 you're able to go company, yeah, you'll do well. 118 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,840 So and so that's what we've been doing. 119 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,520 The last above probably in all fairness, we've been doing that 120 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,880 since we started business and four or five years ago, so. 121 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,920 Yeah, I think like even with the likes of having even at the 122 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:56,720 start of this season, you know, fairly pushing SEO grants like I 123 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,280 mean in regards to the group imagine that he pumps and 124 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,760 everything else to goals winner and then it's come full circle 125 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,040 then over to the end of this season now like coming talking 126 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,360 to Adam, they're like about, you know insulation. 127 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,640 There's so many different aspects to it like that provides 128 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,280 work for so many different people within the trades. 129 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Like I'll be a qualified electricians, plumbers getting 130 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,760 in insulation goers getting in, lads turning over addicts and 131 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,440 stuff like that as well, right down to to pipe insulation and 132 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,400 everything else that goes with it. 133 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,280 There's so many different factors that you can get people 134 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,039 into retrofit properties that keeps the industry taking over. 135 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,159 And, and like Adam mentioned, and you'll still hear from the 136 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:42,480 episode on on Monday as well. It's, it's lads looking out for 137 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,480 each other and, you know, thinking about the other guys 138 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,400 that are within the industry that there's enough work out 139 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,160 there to, to share around everybody. 140 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,560 So if you're a registered guy or a registered company and 141 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,760 registered with the, the SEAI here in, in Ireland, you're 142 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,920 going to be a respectable company and you're going to be 143 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,360 in the right circles, you know what I mean? 144 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,600 And they're going to know the right guys. 145 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,520 And you know, Adam, for for years, you've worked within 146 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,720 different companies and stuff like that. 147 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,760 So you'd be able to back him and you'd put your name behind them, 148 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,080 you know what I mean? And I think that's what it's all 149 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,240 about. It's having a group of companies 150 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,320 that are willing to do it right, do it properly and get these 151 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,240 jobs done right over the next few years was the last thing you 152 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,120 want is a generation of installers and contractors doing 153 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,120 this work incorrectly. And then what we end up then 154 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,920 isn't, you know, a decade or so. There's a lot of stuff having to 155 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,840 be ripped out again and changed because you found out a lot of 156 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,440 Cowboys came in and just installed it just to make the 157 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Quickbook out of. It, you know, 1% and that's, 158 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,640 that's the, the whole thing with SEAI and being SEAI approved 159 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,640 like right, we mentioned with Adam, it's, it's, it's a, it's a 160 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,000 good tag to have associated with your company because they're 161 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,200 going to keep you honest. A lot of people will say that 162 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,400 the later hindrance coming in and there's so many inspections 163 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,160 been had on the properties that are being retrofitted or you 164 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,240 know, fitted, fitted with solar or insulation being done. 165 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,840 But at the end of the day, you know, it's keeping everyone 166 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,520 honest. It's keeping that problem at 167 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,600 Bay. Like what you said there where 168 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,280 you know you're having to change it again and there are 5-6 years 169 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,600 because it's badly installed. They've tightened up the ship 170 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,280 there and it's, it's only beneficial, beneficial, probably 171 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,200 beneficial to us as well because you know, they're keeping you 172 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,400 honest to keeping the jobs all 100%. 173 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,600 You don't know which job is going to be inspected. 174 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 And for like suppose that doesn't matter because we try 175 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,200 and keep the standard up the whole time. 176 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 I know most people will say that, but you know yourself, 177 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,760 there's lads out there that, you know, we'll just throw a job in, 178 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,520 you know, collect their money and back out the gap. 179 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,600 I just, it stops all that kind of stuff. 180 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,880 And so I think they've got a good system going. 181 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:55,760 And, and then in terms of safe electric as well, we've had a 182 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,920 recent inspection from when the guys in there and you know, 183 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,600 these jobs are also getting highlighted in there because 184 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,080 obviously with the upgrades that are happening and you know, 185 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,960 there's a compliance thing where you know, you're, you have to 186 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,240 check the properties and make sure they're ready for these 187 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,640 retrofits electrically as well. So we had we had a visit from 188 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,200 our inspector and to be honest, it was a joy to have him on soy 189 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,760 for once. It's one of those times during 190 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 the year, as you know, Steve. Oh, it's you know, you're 191 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,880 getting nervous for it because you know, you want to impress 192 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,440 and you want to make sure that your your lads are doing a good 193 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,920 installation. And yeah, you arrived and we got 194 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,640 on. We had one or two non 195 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,480 compliance. It's just small things that, you 196 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,840 know, you generally do and you know, it's nearly a learning 197 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,480 thing as well when they come out like that. 198 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,600 There is some things that, you know, you, you might not have 199 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,240 known and they'll, they'll, they'll generally work with you. 200 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,240 And you know, the aim is to, you know, get better installations 201 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,600 out of anyone that's registered or he's part of Safe Electric 202 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,600 and, you know, registered electrical contractors. 203 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:08,760 But he raised us to us that there there is, you know, 204 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,880 issues, you know, potentially down the line arising from DC 205 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,880 leakages on DC voltages where all these electronics and heat 206 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,040 pumps and solar being put in. I thought that was a good and an 207 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,080 interesting topic and fair play to him. 208 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,640 Like he took the time with us to, you know, show us the 209 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,440 effects of DC voltages on some of these these appliances. 210 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,880 It's even right down to you know what you're talking about, 211 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,200 things that people might not realize in regards to that as 212 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,160 well, like I'm back feeding of it as well. 213 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Then on to the likes of your air and abandoned and stuff like 214 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,120 that as well. Like where you would think like 215 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,120 you'd be doing your your basic air and abandoned onto any metal 216 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,440 object around the kitchen or the bathroom or stuff like that. 217 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,600 And then, you know, little topics that they're right, 218 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,040 they're raising which in regards to these type of systems now 219 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,680 that are in place that can potentially put these type of 220 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:04,440 back feeds onto these cables like that can potentially turn 221 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,280 these utilities live, you know what I mean? 222 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:12,160 Yeah, Now 100% unlike like the major issue with it has been 223 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:17,200 able to select the Roy or Cbo's. So your R CBO is picking up on 224 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,720 these DC leakages like so it might not necessarily be, you 225 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,920 know, AB type RCBO or an A, you know what I mean? 226 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,480 It's it's it's very selective and it's just to make sure that 227 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,480 you're manufacturing Lloyd Lions are correct because we were 228 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:40,120 getting them back feed on or ADC leakage on the on deposit of the 229 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,520 neutral and and the lives not necessarily onto the earth. 230 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,240 But obviously if we come back to where it's, it's a, it's a more 231 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,400 hazardous thing because we are, we're bonded into obviously, you 232 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,400 know, sinks, metallic sinks and copper pipe work and stuff like 233 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,600 that as well. So you're potentially going to 234 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,480 pass ADC, you know, fall current down into the into the pipe work 235 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,320 as well. If you're like, The thing is 236 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,560 that you want your RCBO to function and function within 237 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:12,760 the, the time period. But some of these RCBO's that 238 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,000 the manufacturers are recommending might not 239 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,160 necessarily trip as you'd expect. 240 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,720 So it's it's an interesting one and something we're probably 241 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,280 going to see a bit more going into the future. 242 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,360 So could I said even they're like with the likes of ourselves 243 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,640 now, like, and we're hiring guys like in our company like who are 244 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,720 adamant that they want to, you know, do jobs right and do jobs 245 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,880 properly. Like, and we're providing all 246 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,880 different aspects to, you know, remedial works and maintenance 247 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,800 call outs, which is life like replacements. 248 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,160 What we'll also be doing like, you know, periodic inspections 249 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,680 and fixed wire test. And like, you know, and you're 250 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,200 coming across some of these sites like that have been fixed 251 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,800 wire tested five years ago by previous companies and stuff. 252 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,640 And you're looking at some of the results and you know, some 253 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,920 of the, I think the regulations in Ireland, I think if you go 254 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,680 back to like 2006, potentially between 2000 and six, 2008 or 255 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,240 something like that, I think like could be wrong with the 256 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,600 crowds like, but I'm pretty sure like you're looking at like our 257 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,240 CB OS and another circuits like becoming standardized like and 258 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,760 being something that has to be, you know, protecting the 259 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,440 circuits. And you're coming across a lot 260 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,400 of these buildings like that. You know for a fact we're 261 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,600 commissioned well after that date, like you know what I mean? 262 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,880 And you're looking at socket circuits being protected by 263 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,680 MCBS, you know, and these are socket circuits that are in 264 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,360 public areas, socket surrogates that, you know, potentially 265 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,280 children or adults, you know, makes no difference either way 266 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,600 to plug in potentially phones into. 267 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Our public areas, yeah. Tablets into whatever, you know, 268 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,000 kids nowadays due to the iPad generation, you know what I 269 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,440 mean? Yeah. 270 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,480 Or it takes, you know, something like that with without that type 271 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,920 of vital protection to, you know, have somebody welded to A, 272 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:03,320 to a socket to another man. And, you know, our lads are 273 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,880 pulling it up and they're calling it like, you know, I 274 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,560 mean, and then they're doing the the test and then post remedial 275 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,640 works in order changing these circuits out to, to RCBO's. 276 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,520 And then what you're having done is tripping then, you know what 277 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,640 I mean? Because the RCBO's are picking 278 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,480 up faults within the circuits that wouldn't have previously 279 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,480 tripped a, an MCB. And I mean, because there's 280 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,360 potentially Eric leakage on it like, you know, I mean, so 281 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,960 you're only getting your over current protection. 282 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,560 You know what I mean? On your short circuit current 283 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,720 protection right now you're getting your actual earth 284 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,800 leakage faults. Like yeah, you're getting RCB 285 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,200 always tripping like which is raised another hazard dam, but 286 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,480 in the building like damage then has to go and be assessed and 287 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,240 you're trying to explain. To that is that a minefield when 288 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,880 in terms of going into a like a commercial grade setting where 289 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,160 you could have, you know, treated tree distribution 290 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,920 boards, all public areas, you know, maybe or maybe not 291 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,800 regulation at the time of installation. 292 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,400 And then you have to go in and as you know, like fix water 293 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,200 testing. Like there's, you just have to, 294 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,920 there's dues and downs and there's regulations and things 295 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 that have to be a boy to boy because do you find it hard 296 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:15,079 going into like bigger premises having to, you know, justify 297 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:17,839 your time and yeah. Yeah. 298 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:21,839 These problems. Yeah, like, I mean, if you think 299 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:27,240 it in the terms of domestic to commercial, yeah, or domestic to 300 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,160 industrial, you know, let's take it on the commercial end of 301 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,560 things. Like you're thinking of a, you 302 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,400 know, say a leading chain of restaurants or yeah, you know, a 303 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,240 shop, like who are paying staff members a certain amount of 304 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,480 money to come in and those staff members have a contract like 305 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,840 that. They'll be there from a certain 306 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,320 type of the morning and a lot of them there then we'll be working 307 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,920 like late into the evening. Yeah. 308 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,960 So the shop closes, they're trying to get those staff 309 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,160 members to come in then earlier for out of hours works because a 310 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,480 lot of the shops we can't come in and shut down anything. 311 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Yeah. And during operating hours like 312 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,960 because it's loss of errands, you know what I mean? 313 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 And when you look through contracts and stuff like that, a 314 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,800 lot of these clients like when you're signing these contracts 315 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,040 as a maintenance companies, they're outlined their average 316 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,360 earnings within an hour. And I mean, so any downtime like 317 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:16,080 within those hours, like our a crude like true, the maintenance 318 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,560 companies who have caused it potentially or who have not got 319 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,520 it back up. So you're nearly signing over 320 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,760 the fact that like if power goes down and you can't get that back 321 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,760 up for them for any reason, like you know, you're you're signing 322 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,200 it. It's like a fine on top of. 323 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,400 Yeah, you're, you're being had responsible for that time. 324 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Potentially you could be coming in like with a 7:00 AM start, 325 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:43,120 like I'm being expected to have the issue fall finders and 326 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:47,120 remedial action taken in order to get the job back up and 327 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:50,160 running for their servers to be back up and running, their tails 328 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,160 to be rebooted, and the shop to be open for potentially 8 or 9 329 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,440 in the morning. Or if it's a restaurant they'll 330 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,720 be looking to have you know, staff in and and kitchens opened 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,520 up and you know, pre cooking starting so is. 332 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,640 There is there an argument for yourselves being in there and 333 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,720 obviously potentially, you know, part of the installation that's 334 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,480 not safe that you know, you you've you've a reason to be 335 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,480 there and you've a reason to have the power off like to be to 336 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,400 be held accountable for time and loss of earnings is probably a 337 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,320 bit rich considering what you're in there trying to do, trying to 338 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,240 make you know yeah, well then it's lation safe like and like 339 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,600 the boy product of fitting an RCBO is you know, it's going to 340 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,760 show it's going to show fast That weren't yeah, we're we're 341 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,400 weren't and playing so. But it all comes down to, you 342 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,920 know, like taking it back to the domestic and commercial end of 343 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,400 it. If somebody's power goes down 344 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,520 domestically, potentially they lose Wi-Fi. 345 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,880 Yeah. Well, potentially they still 346 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:58,040 have, you know, 5G on their phone or 4G on the phone at the 347 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,840 least. Yeah. 348 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,440 You know you're taking it back to a commercial shop like who 349 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,600 potentially has no tails operating because you're working 350 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,880 on a board that doesn't have different sections there with 351 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,560 individual. You know local isolators that 352 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,600 you can now you walk into a lot of industrial jobs like and you 353 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,240 can actually isolate certain sectors of the board like and 354 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,600 you can work on the small power or the. 355 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,360 General Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it should. 356 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Be yeah, it should be some of the boards, you know they could 357 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,400 be basic boards and you have to shut down the whole board like 358 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,120 in order to work on it. Especially with these type of 359 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:32,040 jobs like where you are coming in and you are seeing like I 360 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,560 mentioned there, which we've come across a lot lately, MCBS 361 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,360 protecting socket circuits like and these socket circuits are in 362 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:43,280 public places like, you know. And it's easy for anyone else to 363 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,880 say or well, you can, you can you knock off that section of 364 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,720 the board, knock off that circle and work on a boat. 365 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,760 We're talking about, you know, some panels the size of a door 366 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,600 entrance. You know what? 367 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,720 I mean, but that's. It it's it's an open panel and 368 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,320 it's. It's uneducated and they're not 369 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,080 supposed to be educated. And that's the point. 370 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,320 Like, you know, the managers of the stars, like, have their work 371 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,400 to be worried about. Like, so at the end of the day, 372 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,240 they don't have the knowledge. Yeah. 373 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,560 You know, I mean, you're just in there and the power is down and 374 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,200 they want to back on and you're trying to relay the whole safety 375 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,480 aspect of it and making sure that the work is done correctly, 376 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,760 making sure that there's enough time and there's enough effort 377 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,040 put into it that when it's all put back together at the end of 378 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,360 it as well, that it's put back in a safe manner as well. 379 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520 So it's not up for them to learn. 380 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,680 And now that you can only explain it to them in layman's 381 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 terms and hope that they have an understanding with it. 382 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,920 But at the end of the day, there's so many different levels 383 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,040 to it, like from the manager to the regional manager to, you 384 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,880 know, the HQ that they're coming back to, every level that act 385 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,000 like wants an answer. They want the time, they want an 386 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,360 ETA and they want to know when that pair is coming back on. 387 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,720 And if it's not going back on within a certain amount of time, 388 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,560 you know there's going to be implications to that puts the 389 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,400 extra pressure on you. Know there's a man in the chat 390 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,320 that knows about timelines, Tom Kendrick and. 391 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,400 There you go down in and out jobs. 392 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 That's that's what it's like you see, like Tom will do a lot of, 393 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,600 you know, out of hours work like I. 394 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,520 Mean, who are you doing support from? 395 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,880 Leetrim. OK, there's a reason why you 396 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,840 know when it's watching, because you're talking silly. 397 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,280 So yeah, so like Tom between he'll turn over our jobs like an 398 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 out of hours work. Like I mean, yeah, getting into 399 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,600 these cameras and stuff like that. 400 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,040 They get in, there's a timeline to it and you have to get in and 401 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:23,720 get out. Like now. 402 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,200 Look, that's been planned in advance. 403 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,560 They know how long it's take when you're coming into the 404 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,480 lights that have worked the way down. 405 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,560 Like, you know, we've guys coming in, like I said, changing 406 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,640 MCBS, putting in our CB OS powers back on. 407 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,320 All of a sudden you get suddenly get nuisance stripping and stuff 408 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,280 because you find out that they're shared neutral somewhere 409 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,240 behind the wall. Like over the years, like 410 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,560 somebody's got a joint box in and they've taken power off 411 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,920 something and you know what I mean? 412 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,760 You've got and then have to go and try and find that. 413 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Like, I mean, so then you're into, you know, panic mode, you 414 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320 know what I mean? 7 to 8, like the heads popping 415 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,520 in the door, somebody's popped their head around the rise or 416 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,120 door. Like it's like power going to be 417 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,680 back on for 8:00 AM. You know, you're looking at it. 418 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,400 You're saying. So you're doing multiple visits 419 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,400 over. Yeah, many mornings to try and 420 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,040 get a job done that would potentially you'd get done in a 421 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,760 house like within 8 hours, you know what I mean? 422 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,640 Yeah. And like, like see yourselves 423 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560 and stuff like that. You could probably bring in like 424 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,120 an anchor. So I like, you know, power bank 425 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,720 or something like that. And I can keep people up and 426 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,800 running and have people with basic Wi-Fi and stuff like that. 427 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,240 Like with the likes of the bars that we're working on, you just 428 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,360 you don't have that sort of luxury, especially with you 429 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,080 know. Yeah, You might be in like a 430 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,120 kitchen environment or, you know, high-powered, Yeah, where 431 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,760 you can't, like a generator is not going to run that for you or 432 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,240 like any power bank is not going to run that for you. 433 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,160 Three phase freezers and you know, three phase dishwashers 434 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,880 and three phase they can you know, grills and everything are 435 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 running off this like an industrial kitchens like I mean. 436 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,440 So I like it. You're kind of at loggerheads or 437 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,080 you're just bumping in with a, you know, maybe a client that 438 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:52,240 you know, can't give you enough time and like for their own 439 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,040 reasons. Like it just has to be kind of 440 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,120 like Tom says, they're a bit of coordination where the time is 441 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,360 is actually given to us to be able to do it like you. 442 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,240 Know, look, the out of hours work is not an issue. 443 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,360 Like, I mean, at the end of the day, if, if, if a client is 444 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:11,200 willing to make an effort and say, look, you know, we'll we'll 445 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,240 come in out of hours and will the shop will be open for you 446 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,360 and you have a plan in place. And we let them know once you 447 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,800 give us this continuous amount of hours to get the job done, 448 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,680 it'll be done. And you know it. 449 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,080 But like, you know, the added pressure that people put on you 450 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,920 with timelines, especially in those like high sort of 451 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560 expectation environments, like of having everything back up and 452 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,080 running. You can't even just leave the 453 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,160 job, like, you know what I mean, at 8:00 AM, Like, I mean, you'll 454 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,080 have to hang around, like to make sure that everything's 455 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,680 running, everything's OK. And it is, yeah, it's, it's a 456 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,040 fairly stressful environment to work in. 457 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,320 I think a lot of people think like, you know, the maintenance 458 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,160 game is a game that you move into when you're coming to the 459 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,520 latter end of your career. Like you just get into a change 460 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,760 in light bulbs and stuff like that. 461 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,080 But I think that's changed over the last few years. 462 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Like I think there's probably not enough in maintenance and 463 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,000 hard services now, like in order, because there's so many 464 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,440 different companies out there now providing that same service, 465 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,920 you know what I mean? In order to probably be ahead of 466 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,680 them or stay one step ahead of them. 467 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,720 We're starting to see now a lot of maintenance company looking 468 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,560 to offer more of the the install work, you know what I mean? 469 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,400 So it's, it's nearly, it's a back thing. 470 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,520 And I mean, I would have saw a lot of electrical companies that 471 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,120 I would have done my time with. I won't mention their names. 472 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,760 I put a couple of now I would have seen them being heavy on 473 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,200 the install at the start. Yeah. 474 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 And a lot of the maintenance stuff down was just money on the 475 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,880 side, you know what I mean? You'll be offering the emergency 476 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,320 lighting down on the side. Now you see them going the 477 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,400 opposite way, you know what I mean? 478 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720 There's a lot of them doing the the maintenance aspect of it 479 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,600 and, and they're having to get back into the install end of it 480 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,880 now like you know me because it's just, it's too hard to 481 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080 everybody's sort of racing each other to the bottom like young 482 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,680 men trying to beat each other. Yeah, beat on price, on time and 483 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,240 stuff like that. There's there's Jay Carr there 484 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,120 and Allo Electrical. They're all looking for the 485 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,520 double time. Yeah, for after hours work. 486 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,360 So I'm looking for after hours works. 487 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,360 Want to pay double? So he's out there. 488 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Yeah, he's, he's on a he's, he's replacing all the Garros. 489 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,400 Yeah. And he's, he's out cruising at 490 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,400 the minute, I think. I don't know if he's backer. 491 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,320 Well, Tom's right there like see that they're like it's prep and 492 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,520 coordination like so prep. Sparks, I don't like the way 493 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,640 he's after singling out there. I feel a bit of discrimination 494 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,920 there. Yeah, we're not committed. 495 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,680 Triggered. At the end of the day, if 496 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520 there's preparation, coordination, it's great. 497 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Like when it's a last minute remedial call out like and 498 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,600 there's nobody there until, yeah, you know, certain time, 499 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,040 but it's a bit of a different story. 500 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,760 Jay Jay is one of the one of the better lads. 501 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,360 You see him online, you know, for the, for the call outs and 502 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,760 emergency call outs, like he could be out on a Sunday no 503 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,320 problem, like, you know, fixing burnt out Garrow MCBS or 504 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600 whatever. But yeah, now look, it's just 505 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,400 something that has to be done, isn't it? 506 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,960 And it comes with like most lads without 24 hour service, but 507 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,280 they'll only say 24 hours between 9:00 and 5:00. 508 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,440 So it's it's good to to be able to offer that service. 509 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200 We've had to do it loads, just back off the Hagar Cruz. 510 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,360 Goodman Joanne's trolling us there to see that. 511 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600 Joanne because most of the work involves sparks. 512 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,360 We did with women. Yeah. 513 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,760 Yeah, He's need good sparks. I think who works with the Tom 514 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280 is a nails. Yeah, nails keep dig out. 515 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,360 Yeah, he's up for an award. To Gary. 516 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,160 Yeah, Gary. Gary is up for an award. 517 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,600 So Henry Lane. Yeah, first class again. 518 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,920 Hungry for the awards, fuckers. Yeah, I'm going to give them a 519 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840 run for that money next year. Don't care. 520 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Electrical Magazine Awards coming around Again A. 521 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,320 Couple of boys, well done. A couple of other names. 522 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,160 Katrina O'Connor as well. Yeah, shout out to her and best 523 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,840 of luck when it's not taking place. 524 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,960 I think it's June, as far as I know, she was last time for us, 525 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,760 wasn't it? Like So yeah, it's good to see. 526 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,240 It's good to see the lads having something to work towards every 527 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,120 year and yeah, you know, it's a lot of that stuff is like. 528 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,680 What we're saying there, it's a bit of culture and a bit of 529 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,000 standard, like exactly, you know, you're not winning those 530 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080 accolades by doing short work basically. 531 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,040 So yeah, well done to the lads and the Instagram gram pages and 532 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800 stuff and updating people and watches are doing. 533 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,400 Well, there you are. Like Thomas saying there, it's 534 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,920 not really a sort of a hit upon electricians like it's he's 535 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,040 saying is because most of the work involves the sparks. 536 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,040 That's true, yeah. Yeah, so looks at him like he'd 537 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800 have a crew there working with him, you know what I mean? 538 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520 They look after the whole fabric end of it, like, and the 539 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,120 plumbing aspect of it like. But if guys there who are, you 540 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,480 know, working properly, like getting the sparks in and doing, 541 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,480 you know what I mean? I've walked through many a local 542 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,920 shopping center and I'd see, you know, the DIY lads and I mean, 543 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,880 up on top of the, the ladder is thrown in the cables themselves 544 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,920 like. So it's good to be able to see 545 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,080 lads. They're actually, yeah. 546 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320 Isn't they're pulling in the trades and the property? 547 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Yeah, yeah, you know, it's brilliant. 548 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,560 But any other news in your front SIBO? 549 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Just easing me way into this new job. 550 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Assistant manager of the mobile team and Mighty and. 551 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Man, Keto McNally Desi, how's it going? 552 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Yeah, just the stress that comes along with it. 553 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,920 You know I'm ringing you now with the stress is more than 554 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,840 you're ringing me. Yeah, well, this is your new 555 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,320 role. You're kind of your step and 556 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,800 kind of more into I suppose my world in terms of having to 557 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,960 really look after people and coordinate and you know, it's 558 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:30,640 the the principles you Judy Howler position is it's it's not 559 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,040 an easy one to take on because you could have like in your 560 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,160 company there. I'm sure you have, you know, 20 561 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,040 odd lads where you're the sole responsibility, you know, all 562 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,760 that falls on you, like they do something wrong. 563 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,000 You're the Prince. You'd be Principal Julie Holder 564 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,360 on the Hard to say. I'm so, so scared about it. 565 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,680 But yeah, you're having to, you know, you're having to check 566 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,960 their work like you're like you'd, the book stops with you. 567 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,080 So that's the hard thing about it. 568 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Was a roster now he's a so that it can be difficult to done down 569 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,800 issues so the client can understand and yeah, like we've 570 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,880 had that issue this week like where you'll have a client 571 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,680 reaching out by e-mail. They're looking for information. 572 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,200 They can't understand why, you know, certain issues weren't 573 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,800 there before, but they're there now. 574 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,680 And the last people on the job were also like. 575 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,280 So obviously we've caused the issues and what we're then 576 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,240 trying to relate to them is, is now we're actually, you know, 577 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,920 actually upgrading your board. Like we're bringing your board 578 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,760 up to standard. And the fact that we brought 579 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,160 your board up to standard has found issues within your wiring 580 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,120 system, which, you know, now it hasn't been found before, you 581 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,880 know what I mean? So we've actually done the fixed 582 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,160 wire testing properly. Like we found the issues through 583 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960 fixed wire testing. Yeah, we flagged remedials and 584 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,800 we've put remedials in place and these people can't understand 585 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,120 why they weren't found before. And what they've actually had 586 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080 was there's a lot of potentially companies coming in before 587 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760 seeing, you know, somebody who plays where you come in. 588 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,240 And you'll see some of the previous contractors thinking 589 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,560 that they're helping the outlay by putting the, the readings on 590 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,040 the, the MCBS or they put the readings on the, the, the panels 591 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400 like, and I mean, what they got as just a drive by. 592 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,240 And it's, it's laziness and it's no good to anybody. 593 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680 So, yeah, like you have to be willing to, you know, stick your 594 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,080 neck out, I think even in the position I'm in and deal with 595 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,240 the clients head on and tell them what the the expectations 596 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,280 are, but not try to maybe suffocate them so much with 597 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,960 technical aspects of it. Because then he does feel like 598 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400 that, you know, in a sense you're trying to, you know, 599 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080 trade mansplain to them in a certain way. 600 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,320 They've no understanding of it. So, yeah, be as be as lame and 601 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600 as possible with the the information that they're given. 602 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,600 And I think then they'll have that bit of respect for you as 603 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,600 well, that you're just trying to do your job. 604 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,000 They're coming in trying to do their job. 605 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,160 And at the end of the day, we're all just looking to get paid at 606 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,480 the end of the month, yeah. And provide for our families, 607 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,080 you know. Yeah. 608 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,000 Well, there's there's a question to Jay and Daisy, like did they 609 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,280 find like in terms of that type of work? 610 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,840 I is finding it hard to price and get PIR periodic inspections 611 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,400 on. You know, I know Jay, you're 612 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760 doing a bit of man's upgrades and stuff. 613 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320 We do that as well for for a company. 614 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,440 Do you find it hard to, you know, get a customer to agree to 615 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,640 a the PIR before like a major installation is going in? 616 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800 We have we're having a bit of issue with on the solar side and 617 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:39,520 I know installing heat pumps on EV chargers where we're sent in 618 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,160 to do PIR and people don't understand why he's like, why 619 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,760 can't we not have solar like everyone else? 620 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240 Like, you know, would you could be in a house from the 1930s 621 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,600 nowhere rods or nothing like nowhere at rods undersized man's 622 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,440 now or CD's and you know the cable and system is more than 35 623 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,360 years old. The list goes on of things that 624 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,000 you know are potential hazards as as we have to put down. 625 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,680 Trying to keep them safe. Yeah and you can and amaze most 626 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,120 of the time it's you know look the the wiring system can be OK 627 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,760 insulation resistance is good like and then you're just 628 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,640 looking to get mains upgrade as you know all the bond and done 629 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,400 properly and. Also the question for. 630 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,840 You Ross, when you say mains upgrade, is that just the main 631 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,640 tails from the ESB fuels to the board? 632 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,160 It can be boat Ross, depends on what supply the customer has in. 633 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,080 At the moment we're doing a job we're looking to upgrade a 634 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,560 customers don't get a heat pump and a solar inverter put in and 635 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,560 battery storage and stuff. And they actually have an 8 KVA 636 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,120 supply. Like I actually didn't know we 637 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,680 had had eights on, on the on the record like, but it's free 638 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:05,880 supposedly to get upgraded to 12 KVA and then it's €4000 for this 639 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,960 customer to upgrade to A-16 KVA supply. 640 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,400 And where you would have thought like, you know, it's on the ESB 641 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,800 side. It's that's up to them to, you 642 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,480 know, keep, keep to keep their cable up to regulations. 643 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480 Like everyone knows what's going into the houses now they give 644 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,960 them that a KVA. But he was trying. 645 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,679 You know what I mean? Customers. 646 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,040 Paying for that? No, but I'm saying like, you 647 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,719 know, you think it's the USB who? 648 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,560 Oh yeah, it's. Who keeps the USB going? 649 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,719 Yes, government, government and us. 650 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,080 Yeah, a taxpayer I know, but to to put the price on the 1 651 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:38,920 singular. Person. 652 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, is a is a bit heavy when, 653 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,639 you know, they're kind of invested in getting, you know, 654 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,000 energy upgrades don't throw outside again, you know, they're 655 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,880 trying to be head of the curve efficient and stuff. 656 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Yeah. But yeah, I thought that one was 657 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,600 interested is that just upsizing the incomers you're in, you're 658 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,320 upsizing you're upside sizing on the customer side, which is us, 659 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,680 the electricians. So obviously 16 square, 25 660 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,760 square, but it's needed depending on the size of the 661 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,600 house, but it's it's also been upgraded on their end as well. 662 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,840 So it can be both at times, Russ and. 663 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,880 Was like what Desi says there, Desi saying that we're getting a 664 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,520 lot of companies requesting PIRS before they cover. 665 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,240 Or even. That's what it all comes down 666 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,320 and you'll see that even but a lot of hard to give clients, a 667 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,080 lot of clients will only want the PIR done literally just to 668 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,960 get the insurance across the line and they've no care like I 669 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,320 don't mean and what we're seeing a lot as well as a lot of 670 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,800 companies as well over here that would be. 671 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,040 Surges important as well. Yeah, a lot of upgrades as well, 672 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,520 but you'd have a lot of companies over here, especially 673 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,560 retail companies that will be British based companies working 674 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,560 are trading in Ireland and a lot of them will be covered by UK 675 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,960 insurances. And what they do is they'll 676 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,520 actually send Nyack electricians over from the UK to Ireland and 677 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:15,880 test an Irish based site over here to Nyack test and 678 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,320 standards, which is obviously not too far off what an Irish 679 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,640 one was. But you haven't like Nyack 680 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,280 stickers on the boards and you'll have British standard 681 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:27,640 test record sheets, certificates and yeah, that's it. 682 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,040 And every nap it and Nyack or whatever it is like, yeah, here 683 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,320 over in Ireland. And you're coming in like and 684 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,960 you know, you're trying to tell the client over here that 685 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,880 actually not worth a shite like to to Irish regulation like 686 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,520 under man. Yeah. 687 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,680 And they have no understanding that but that Sarah has gone 688 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,800 back over to the UK and because it's just a a leg of the the 689 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,600 British contract, they feel like that, you know, that gets them 690 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,760 over the line with their insurance companies in the UK, 691 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,560 You know what I mean? Yeah, Which is quite dangerous 692 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,240 as well, because even right down to the likes of emergency 693 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,400 lighting, I don't know, maybe Richard Cochrane is on there. 694 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,640 He might be able to say like, but what we're saying is a lot 695 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,160 of these British electricians that are coming over are 696 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,680 contractors that are coming over and working in these stars that 697 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,120 are British stars just in Ireland. 698 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,400 Like they'll be doing emergency lighting systems and they'll all 699 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,360 be on key, the fish keys. You know, there'll be no 700 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,840 automatic reset switches. So under the emergency lighting 701 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,920 within the Irish standards of emergency lighting, you have to 702 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,840 have an automatic test switch and fish key is not classed as 703 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,200 an automatic reset test switch because you actually have to 704 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,200 manually reset it. So you have to have ACTU there 705 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,800 or you have to have a controller that will automatically reset it 706 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,200 to other man. So yeah, you'll get a lot of the 707 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,280 stars that we have over here with all fish keys. 708 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,600 So we're sort of making a bit of money off that in regards to 709 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080 remedials going around and flagging that they need to have, 710 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,960 you know, CT us installed, you know. 711 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,120 So yeah, that's it. There's a lot to be like. 712 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,480 We could be quite level on par like we in regards to a lot of 713 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,040 the standards and regulations which we found out when we were 714 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,480 on E fix over there. Yeah. 715 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,480 But there is still some slight differences when it comes to the 716 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,360 nitty gritty end of some systems that go into place over here, 717 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,840 you know? Yeah. 718 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,600 Like appliance isolation in the kitchens and stuff like that. 719 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,280 It's a nightmare for electricians over here. 720 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,240 Dash regulation, but you know, when you explain it to a 721 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,760 customer and you you actually talk about what it does, you 722 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,680 know what I mean? It's it's actually a no brainer. 723 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,280 So that's something that they can learn from most and then 724 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,000 what we can learn from them is probably the solar batteries 725 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,880 being installed in the loft spaces. 726 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,280 Like, you know, it still hasn't come into regulation here. 727 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,480 Obviously it's, you know, it's, you know, suggested that you 728 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,280 don't put them in the out space, but you can put it in whichever 729 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,480 you know, a walk, a walk board over and then you're for a 730 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,240 retardant board and all that kind of stuff around it and give 731 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,600 you 350 mail around most and Bertos and batteries. 732 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,080 You're good to go like, you know, so. 733 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600 Would you send your P IRS into Safe Electric? 734 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,280 Yeah, yeah, Like it's not requestable though, isn't it? 735 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,560 Like I don't think you have to. There is a sheet for them, yeah. 736 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,200 So you can send them. You can send them in like it is. 737 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,840 It in the small print though that it's not like fix where 738 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,040 testing is, but I think the PIR, the periodic inspection part, I 739 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,040 don't know if it has to be. There is a sheet for them, Yeah, 740 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,320 there is a sheet for them, yes, it was a RIP out for them. 741 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,280 Like there's three sheets so that. 742 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,800 Sort of puts a bit of honesty on it down as well, doesn't? 743 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,280 It does on it. It's they're they're wanting to 744 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,720 see like a test record sheet as well for the same to come in 745 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:40,920 with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 746 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,080 Look, you can, you can go in. It's, it's kind of frowned upon, 747 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:49,720 but you can go in depending on the the installation like you 748 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:54,520 can note down that this is 75% of it because maybe some areas 749 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,160 aren't access. So it's that's more of a cover 750 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,200 thing. If you can, you can reach and 751 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,120 test 100% of it. You deal with like we got work. 752 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,360 We get that even but a lot of like I mentioned there that to 753 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,880 happen on about the English, you know, sites that we look after 754 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,000 over here like you'd get a lot of that. 755 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Nice. Thank you. 756 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,600 About it before, like where it's like a 20% or 50%. 757 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,200 His inspector doesn't want the man. 758 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,720 Yeah, that's that's all right. Yeah. 759 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,000 Like, and I feel like it's like that with the center. 760 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,200 Yeah. J yeah, yeah, yeah. 761 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,040 Like it's, it's different for each inspector and like he's 762 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,400 telling us to send the man on with a test record sheet. 763 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,080 Like look, if you. Have on the Safe Electric 764 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,800 website. I was only looking at up myself 765 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,720 because we're trying to do a lot of it, the PR's and not and 766 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,880 expected they don't have to send it to. 767 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,440 Be sent in, right? That's good to know. 768 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,160 Not compulsory, that's the word. It's not compulsory. 769 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,920 You give the copy to yourself and a copy to the client and you 770 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,560 have the option to send in the pull out to save electric. 771 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,840 Yeah, yeah. Well, that's good. 772 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,120 Yeah. There is one there for them. 773 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440 I'm writing saying that though. I think there is one there. 774 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,360 There's a corner. There's like the search 3 as 775 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,760 well. They don't expect you to send if 776 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,720 you're doing a search tree. They don't expect you to send in 777 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:07,040 the. I'd expect that they want you to 778 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,080 send it in if you found something that was a hazard. 779 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,120 Or no, this surgery itself has to be sent to you don't have to 780 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,760 send in the the PIR, the test record sheet. 781 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,880 Yeah, yeah. The PIR, if they requested yeah 782 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,240 before them, it's it's not required. 783 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:24,520 You'd have to have a field. Yeah. 784 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,480 No, it's just, it's an interesting one like because. 785 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,720 And you know, like where most of the Pirs were down and Jay would 786 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:35,560 probably second me on this. It's a it weren't even good 787 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,560 Pirs, if that makes any sense, because we're testing that. 788 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,960 I think Jay does the same. He's testing and inspecting on 789 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,520 on the fact that solar might be going in. 790 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,360 So he's we're doing it for, you know, for the bigger companies. 791 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,200 Yeah. They've given them a clear path 792 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080 to win and do their job. So basically we're making a good 793 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,960 and ends getting the second ones over by that company as well. 794 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,960 Yeah. So we're going in and like God 795 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080 forbid we've we missed something or something covering some. 796 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,920 They're going in and doing an installation as well. 797 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,160 So they're actually testing their end of it and then doing 798 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,240 an overall installation system. It's got the double check, like 799 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,160 what Essentially when they leave the board, they were the last at 800 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,800 it and they were the ones that, you know, should have done 801 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,440 their. So fuck them, fuck them. 802 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,280 Then after that. But like, that's covering 803 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,960 yourself as well because, you know, you don't know who they 804 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,680 have working for. They go in and they will notice 805 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,520 like from some solar companies that go in, they go in and pull 806 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,880 the board apart. And sometimes their regulation 807 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,880 is not there. No. 808 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,760 And like usually after we're finished the PR, we'll put a 809 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120 tamper sticker on. Yeah. 810 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,640 It's like we were here last. You ripped a sticker. 811 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,960 You were here last. Yeah, see a lot of people doing 812 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,200 that now on Instagram. There's people, you know, making 813 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,920 their own stickers, like the way you wear obviously safe electric 814 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,160 at their own ones. But you know, it's a it's a good 815 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400 practice to have there just to make sure that even even 816 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,040 domestic end of things, just that, you know, somebody they're 817 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,320 all throwing a bit of cable Myself, I can connect up a 818 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,800 shower circuit or whatever it is like because, you know, we know 819 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,720 how to do it because I watch it on YouTube, you know what I 820 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,720 mean? Just covers you like as you 821 00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:15,120 said, like you're the last register contract on cycling, so 822 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,680 if anything happens, you're the one getting the call. 823 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160 Like, I mean, yeah, yeah, but not interesting. 824 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,960 John makes a good, good point there. 825 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,360 The idea rods upgrade in the mains nearly like you know 826 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,600 standards for any of the PRS you're going out to PR, you're 827 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,680 usually asked to go there because there might be an issue. 828 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:33,840 And keep it right down to the basics of it. 829 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,640 Like, you know, I mean, we've had a conversation like with our 830 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:40,920 safe Electric inspector and this was one that was thrown up and 831 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,520 with us because you know yourself, like you'll go in 832 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,200 like, and you'll be testing in the house, like. 833 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,320 And I think when any testing is going on, you have to test the 834 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,560 RCDS. Yeah. 835 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,200 So you have to make sure that you test every RCD, even if it's 836 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,840 not an RCD that you've put in. So if you've gone in a new brand 837 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,040 new circuit, you know, if there's any other circuit within 838 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,400 that panel that has an RCD on it, you have to do your RCD. 839 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,840 So we raised the question to our inspector to say, look, we're 840 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,240 looking after, you know, industrial boards are like some 841 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,040 of these bars. I could have Torti RC DS in our 842 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,480 RCB OS in them, you know what I mean? 843 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,400 Are we expected because we ran in a new circuit of our own and 844 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,280 we've tested our own circuit and we're standing over our own 845 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,200 circuit? This way you're you're you're 846 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,920 end of the game. Yeah, it's complicated. 847 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,760 It's complicated. So we've raised it to them and I 848 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,880 said do we are we expected to go and test every single or CD and 849 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,960 RCBO in that board because we cannot price for that. 850 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,880 We cannot price for that time like because somebody wanted an 851 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,800 extra socket in our socket sack. I ran into a, you know, a 852 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160 snooker room for a breakout room for their staff or something in 853 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,520 other men. So he actually went. 854 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,720 Away. Went away within within the hour 855 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,400 like he rang us and he just said now look in fairness is raised a 856 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,000 good point there. There's no way that there's 857 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,880 actually no legislation in there like on your sector of what 858 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,320 you're working in and what the expectations are for you for 859 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,560 something like that. So, he said. 860 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,800 The basic thing is that if you're going in, you're testing 861 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,040 your own circuit, you're covering your own circuit. 862 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:11,960 If you can do manual tests on Saturday, you can do manual 863 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,080 checks. There's a lot of critical 864 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,480 circuits that you just can't test. 865 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,440 On, yeah, but. You couldn't do it tomorrow 866 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,760 because some of the critical, yeah, it could be critical 867 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,720 loads. So he said. 868 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,040 The main thing is as you're walking around, you're like 869 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,320 Jordans you've mentioned. Are you confirming your arts? 870 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,160 You know what I mean? You're confirming bonding. 871 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,360 You know, go into the plant room, check, you know, you know, 872 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,840 water heaters, check bonding like between like, you know, the 873 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,800 spur and the tank or whatever it is and just just confirm you're 874 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,040 bonding, confirm your earth run. Around with a wander lead and 875 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,920 just go on just. Get your confirmations on the 876 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,760 earth at least and test your circuit and you should be 877 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,440 covered. Like there's no expectations. 878 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,680 So he said it was a learning curve for him that we raised 879 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,800 that he said actually no other. You know what a maintenance 880 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,280 company has asked that? Like you know what I mean? 881 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,520 Pray to ask. Potentially, yeah, but like at 882 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,640 the end of the day, you're just trying. 883 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,880 To use the same inspector and have to say he's very 884 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,320 approachable and he's on like if you ring him, obviously if he's 885 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,480 he's on a, you know, he's got an appointment, he'll ring you back 886 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,960 and he'd he'd help you out some. Jay mentioned one day the new 887 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,040 maker plug in test and we've got that as well. 888 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,720 And it is, it's class. I was using it. 889 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,520 It's great. Like, I mean, they're fond of 890 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,880 taking. Checks what else to. 891 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,000 Do your RCD trip times and. When they do the times, yeah, 892 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,400 we'll. Do everything for you, but the 893 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,840 only thing I was getting without Jay and you might be able to 894 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,040 write in the comments there on that somebody meant raised it 895 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,800 with me and said so we're running around with that. 896 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,080 Can you use that? You're on a fixed wire test 897 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,920 because there is no serial number on it. 898 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,160 You know, I mean, so if you're using your mega to go around and 899 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,720 do your normal tests and you had your fix where a test sheet out 900 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,080 and your search tree or whatever it is for any circuit that's 901 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,120 going in. And then you're accompanying 902 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,240 your serial number across all your tests. 903 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,000 But you've done some, maybe some of your tests with that plug in 904 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,280 tester. Can you actually use it and 905 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,680 stand over it to say that you use it? 906 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,720 Because you can't actually. You can't calibrate it. 907 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:01,080 Calibrate it. Or can you? 908 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,240 Potentially, I don't know, maybe you can't, but you can't 909 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,960 serialize it to say that. This is what I used. 910 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,480 Maybe I could be wrong and that, but that's just something that 911 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,400 was raised to me. Well, it is very new, like it's 912 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,520 only out the last couple of months. 913 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,960 Isn't it? Maybe that's something we need 914 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,600 to look up. Actually just have a quick chat 915 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,040 about that as well, because I've been using it, but I haven't 916 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,440 been using it for official testing. 917 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,720 I've been using it for going in and actually just going around. 918 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,800 Somebody's asking a. Quick test like, yeah, yeah. 919 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,280 You know, if you're going in for a bit of remedial work and you 920 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,880 were trying to find a fault or something, you know? 921 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,120 Yeah, yeah. But it's a good one to have. 922 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,280 But yeah, there's a lot of good interest on the track here 923 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,280 today. We should do this more often. 924 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,280 But yeah, I guess we'll wrap it up. 925 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,000 Yeah, percent large. We might actually just do like a 926 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,800 lot of electricians there. I think we might just do an 927 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,680 electrical one. Yeah, yeah, maybe once every two 928 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120 weeks if. Anybody wants to join, they can 929 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,040 join. Yeah, I just use it for small 930 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,880 works after inside that's right, area 1%. 931 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,560 Yeah, that's exactly me, but yeah. 932 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,200 Well, I don't think to me and to buy it. 933 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,280 Fair blade, just guys. That's right. 934 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,560 But that's it. Season 9 episode 9.5 in the can, 935 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:26,480 Instagram Live is turned off and a lot of great insights there 936 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,560 from the the community, not just from electricians, but from from 937 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,320 other tradies and apprentices and HVAC and everybody. 938 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,920 So yeah, great to get people involved and just great to get 939 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,560 talking to the community. Yeah, no, 100% and like we had 940 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,960 the usual lads that would jump on with us, Jay, Tom and then we 941 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,480 had Paul meaning from from the UK always an avid listener and 942 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,960 likewise on our end. I love the stuff that he does. 943 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,160 So it's great having you and that's your privilege have new 944 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,080 and it's bundle of knowledge. It's pity you're not safe 945 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,240 electric registered would have been great to hear your 946 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,400 insights. But yeah, and I thought it was 947 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,920 an interesting one and it's it's good to see that lads in our 948 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,200 industry are having some of the same, wouldn't call them issues, 949 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,200 but same queries in terms of certification. 950 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,720 And I thought it was very insightful about the, you know, 951 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,440 good look into the maintenance game on your end when we're 952 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,880 talking about massive, you know, installations that, yeah, maybe 953 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,640 minor works have to be done. How far do you actually go with 954 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,640 the? Which are procedures to make to 955 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,880 make the job a good one? Yeah, it's good. 956 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,600 Just to compare you automate at the end of the day, although the 957 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,400 the trade is the same, the the sectors and the the environments 958 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,560 aren't like. So I guess it's a it's a good, 959 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:47,240 it's a good stepping stone. I think this type of chat, like 960 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,520 for maybe future episodes down the line, that we might get a 961 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,840 bit more of a structured live down and get people involved in 962 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,080 the podcast. Yeah, I know. 963 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,000 And it's good for the likes myself that wouldn't do much 964 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,120 maintenance work to see if that was a potential path for our 965 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,920 company to go. You know, we're learning all the 966 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040 time. It's it's no use was being on 967 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,320 here with maybe 5 domestic lads. We also had Desi on. 968 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,440 He was like, you know? Just throw me an offer. 969 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,680 Yeah, yeah, Desi jumped on. Obviously he'd be, you know, 970 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,320 he'd have foot in the door with both. 971 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,120 So it was great to hear his insights as well. 972 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,280 And Jay as well. Brilliant. 973 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,240 And Jordan for jumping on as well. 974 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,800 Yeah, 100%. Like I said, catch us next week 975 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,360 for the final episode. It's going to be a good one. 976 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,280 It's going to be good to be able to wrap up our four season here 977 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,120 in the the new headquarters of the strip back podcast out here 978 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,680 in and to electrical and Ashbourne Big massive thank you 979 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,240 as well to Hagar Ireland for the support that they've given us on 980 00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,800 season 9 and. Then always, I really mean 981 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,120 always a great pleasure to represent Snickers here on the, 982 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,040 the podcast. Lindsay and all the team and 983 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,480 they're in Snickers and Holter Forest Group have been brilliant 984 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,120 to us and so massive, massive thank you to them as well. 985 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,840 Yeah. Like we always say, if you liked 986 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560 what you heard, head over to where we got our podcast, give 987 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,600 us a like follow comment and you'll be surely notified. 988 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,160 Then when the next 1 drops, take it easy. 989 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,080 Take it easy.