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He is one of our friends with Snickers workwear.
He's a young Budden electrician going into Phase 6.
I think so. What we're trying to do here is
shed the light on the electrical apprenticeship.
Aaron, no better man to do it, talking everything educational
side and on the lifestyle side as well.
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I'm Stephen Buckley. I'm Keith Allahan.
Let's get into it. How'd your fight go?
Gorgeous. I wanted something in second
round so I was delighted so. We want to get in tomorrow now.
I just jumped on for the crack. Yeah, I was playing a charity
match for a football for this woman called United.
She was I don't know where she was from now, but we played it
in Greystones and Chad Canter Chad, 2 has two sons and two
sons set up with one of my mates Alex Nolan and it was for the
and for the Dax the dad or the concert 2 years ago.
So I played and that and now the ones after passing their last
week and it was terribly bought lost both parents the concept,
but I was playing and that and it was obviously a few like Jay
Cabin and I was playing at it yeah and there was this fella
called Declan Kenner. He was an X boxer and he just
text me. Then after the match was it
don't fight me Cardinals like no boxing experience with Jeff.
OK tell. A joke, yeah.
That type of thing, Yeah, it's called.
Yeah. And the lads obviously were well
connected. Yeah.
Great thing. Hell FC is there.
Now it was called Match Fortunate, so it was for the
Malik and obviously the background was for the as well.
But yeah, just jumped on it for the crackdown.
I didn't know he caught our box and things.
Well, yeah, yeah. So weird about Trevor like
that's my payment, not he was involved isn't?
He yeah, he was on one of them as well.
There's loads now. There was that one, the one I
was on was called Legacy Fight Night.
Then there's wildcard promotions as Extreme Boxing just loads
them now. Yeah, but I just never done it
and I was trying to boxing for a couple of months like, you know.
Is it all for charity? Like everybody has their own
charity. Maybe that.
That one wasn't for charity, that was just the whole Xbox.
Our fellow wanted to have a promotion to try to take it from
be called the Semi Pro because it was it was basically semi
probably like unlicensed flight, you know?
What I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we I don't know whether he
wants to try step it up to the ranks to actually get pro boxes
on it then in the future dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, starts on my
type. Of thing, it's just laws now
like this, crown and all, like there's a lot of them.
There was actually a boxing event in the hotel.
Yeah. And it was the start of March, I
think was and I went out to watch Alex for you.
Now that was on in the Ashburn Hotel.
That's called crown like, but there's a good field.
Like there is a, there's a good field.
What is it about the box and is it just like obviously you play
the football and you do the box and all that as well as it just
like for the fitness and the is it?
That's what I said. Was.
It so I just literally just started for fitness because I
wasn't playing football anymore and I just I want to keep
strange. The fitness isn't totally
different and then I didn't really like.
Yeah, yeah, I did it for the we got about.
The stream. I like now I was.
Street Fighter. Street Fighter.
Now it's a the fitness is good. Like that's literally what I
started for. Yeah, I'm not I'm not playing
football anymore. I mean, walk, Hey, lifting
weights. And even though still go to the
gym where hey, lifting weights, it's just it's too boring for
me. I like the sort of cardio sort
of trying. Yeah.
And I was like, you know, I'll start a bit of boxing and I just
kept the owner and I was never planned on fighting.
Like I literally just wanted to learn the scale.
And then the opportunity came up with such a might as well just
grab it and. That was you were talking to
your man and you said you did a bit like.
I was literally, so we played the match and he never mentioned
I didn't know who he was. He never mentioned that he was
an Xboxer, never mentioned that he was the owner for.
Yeah. And we played the match on I
think it was a Saturday or Sunday or something like that,
and he texted me then it was either the Monday or the Tuesday
was a ghost crack you interested in for, you know, my card.
And I was like, yeah, go on. Yeah.
Like didn't hesitate. Yeah, yeah, go on.
Yeah. Didn't even ask me.
Had a box before. That night was like, Oh yeah.
When is like 3 weeks? It was a great ground of a
three-week training camp boy if the court.
I think I was I weighed in like 86 and I was fine at 78.
So I had to quote a kilo like and I was like AK laundry weeks
be grand and I called. Embrace.
Be that way. I ended up cutting down to I
think it was like I was 86 when I weighed in.
I cut down to 84 the week at a fully and I was like, I still
have to lose 6K here. I was like hell.
We meant a little 6K on five days because we were weighing in
on the Friday. This was the Monday.
So I was looking in before like a few days before that we could
for you to see like how what's the quickest way to lose weight?
And I was like water load, water load.
So it's a great ground. I'll try this while out.
The worst thing I've ever done. I swear to God.
I drank 7 liters of water on the Monday, 7 liters water on
Tuesday, but I weighed in at 86 on the Monday or 84, something
like that. And then on the Tuesday I was 2
KG heavier, so I was either 86 or 80, I can't remember.
Yeah, yeah. And I was like.
I'll go and look my hair. This is yeah.
I was like this is working. And then I was chatting and all
those what we meant to do here and I was like, no, no, that's a
good sign. So I had seven years water and
one day, seven years water shoes take.
Then the Wednesday I had four years, the tourist day, I had
two leaders. And then Friday morning I was
walking in the Grand Canal dock and I had to be there for half
seven on my way and was in Bluebell at 12:00.
I couldn't eat and couldn't drink.
And I was I went, I was waiting that morning.
I was fighting at 78, waiting that morning at 79 after the
water load because like obviously I was dropping me
calories and all the field. And then I was just flushing out
all the water and I weighed in a 79 on the way in morning.
Yeah. It's like, what's the job?
Not a key long walk like him and do this Riddle.
They just keep going. I can't sit still.
Like ended up going to work with a bin bag on a T-shirt on, 2
jumpers, a hat, a jacket and all the hoods up going into work.
Sweat told you want to turn the heat on.
She was like what? Just turn the heat now, please.
She was like, it's rousing here. Is it just turn on for a few
minutes, you're gone. I need the sweat.
I brought away scales into work. People look, it was it's like
the other scales they work like and I was I couldn't, he
couldn't drink and people were sitting there at 10:00 on that
tea and I was just looking at like can't even eat.
I was in the horrors, went down, weighed in at 12:00, hit 78,
bang on the dot as a God. Lovely.
I have that way And then can you?
Load on there, I went straight on with the center, got a
chicken filler all those months and I was absolutely stabbing.
But once you hit the way, because it was the day before, I
could eat whatever then. So I could weigh in at 78 on
Friday, then I mean I could go back up on the weight.
They just transformed. The local club like they're in
as early. I was just doing that one to one
session. So I started boxing.
It was last January, so January 2025, because I had that
Christmas on all I was. I went on a trip to Amsterdam
during the Christmas, see the markets and stuff, and then I
came back and I was like, fuck this on on putting on weight in
which way? I wasn't training like wasn't
doing that was literally going to work, wasn't even bringing
lunch to work. I was buying roles every day,
boiling packets, crisps, drinking coke and everything.
I was like, well, we're the only.
And then I was like January hit and I was like, Nah, I need to,
I need to get back and train like because I was always
playing sport as a kid, like, you know.
Yeah, when you stop that and then it's an easy thing to get
fucking into that, isn't it? Like in.
The. It's like a hole that you keep
digging, you know, I mean like once you get into the hall, you.
Just you see everybody else gone and then they're coming back
with that stuff and all that. And it just becomes natural
that, you know, I think it's normal.
It's like, I know I have to get out of this.
So I ended up following them a lot.
Called Max Strength on Instagram.
He's from, he does a loud train in the Herb and Leisure where
Carol Kelly used to work. Oh, yeah, yeah.
And he does like 1 to one session for boxing or PT.
And so we followed him. He followed me back and he texts
music. Would you be interested in
coming out and doing parts yeah never boxed before yeah they
were like German it be it will give me a kick take a back train
went out and I literally found over there I was like this is
deadly yeah I was like I don't even want to fight like what I
was deadly like yeah it's hard training and yeah how it is we
can go friends with him sure that so then it went from going
to a PT to going out to me so you know what I mean and just
doing pads them so I started doing that then and then I just
went from there and just. Kept different that like the
accountability with the box and the train and the one-on-one
train and is a bit more accountable than the football
training sense with a team like. 100 yeah 100% because I know
it's like even when I was playing football and always try
to get the odd one to one session in Germany with with a
coach. And more beneficial.
And I just found it more beneficial because to focus on
you, you know, I mean, it's not a group now.
I love football, still do. But the difference between the
football training, it's just you do you know what I mean?
Like you can't blame anyone else.
If you're doing bad, you can't turn around.
He's playing thought that left back there, you know, I mean the
wing. I keep getting past somebody's
boxing if you're I think you have to, it's all just you.
So I just found going to one once then was better because
even I went to a club. I was in Monks Town for like a
month and 1/2 or something. When I started getting into the
box, it was like last summer, yeah.
And I was like even the one to ones compared to Monks Town.
Trying now to train the most town steady, like great fitness,
but it wasn't focused on you. So I wasn't learning as much as
I could be in a scenario to another man.
So I just kept the under 1-2 ones then and.
Is that more flexible with work then as well?
Yeah, because like, obviously I made to it Max now.
So like, yeah, he'd always go. I know your sparks.
I know, like, if you can get in at 8:00, I'll stay late.
You know what I mean? Stuff like grand happy days.
It's none of this. You have to be here at 6:00.
It's over at seven. Yeah.
The flexibility of it's noise, you know what I mean?
You don't have that with football sometimes as well, like
you know, I mean you missed training.
You're automatically you're not playing the match then exactly
that type of stuff with any decent running talk club like
you know, yeah, that's what that's what happened me then or
like when I was playing leave north.
Yeah, yeah, you are going you know, you are so senior league.
So you're all over Lancer and then the weekends you're you
couldn't you're being the all Ireland.
You could be down in Cork or something like that, like but if
you miss training once they're out of team.
So then naturally, naturally it does, you fall off and you play
a little bit of local football and that's probably not as good
as what you were doing, so you bumped that off.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's.
Only down the Glebe of the young lad and Glebe now like my young
lad, he's in there doing the like the pre trials not be
before they pick a team like yeah, yeah, yeah, I mentioned
Kate like I keep that. The first thing is poor Keaton.
His knee. Everyone's everyone has that
famous knee and they only didn't happen.
Stop the pool talk himself. Finally didn't have the bad Navy
in United. It's a hate going into central.
It's a little washed up football, terrible stop.
But anyway, yeah, work anyway. Has work on.
It's good join it. And so at the moment there's the
boss and as I said, he's just running the company he's not
like he's on the tools of a little bit yeah bored.
And it's just like price and jobs and.
He's doing everything. Switch height.
Yeah, yeah. Basically he's.
Not 11. He's not 1150.
He's A and I was running the companies, getting the jobs and
stuff like that. And he's like when he's on the
job, he'll be on the fields. Yeah, but it's gone with a lot
of. Sailing Michelle or something?
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For all your electrical needs. But I have to say, but I know
it's going well. I have to say like he's probably
now I'm going to say he's the easiest possible before he's my
only boss. Yeah, but he's very easy going.
So it. Makes there's a lot though, you
know what I mean? With your fortune.
Fortune now, yes, it's rare that lads.
You know, potentially going to finish out their their time.
With the woman? With the same, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, very rare. A lot to be said about making on
board. I mentioned there obviously the
the ADHD and obviously that's a factor probably when you're in
skill then as well need to be hands on.
Horrible and scroll yeah horrible like never was hey hey
gone in skill and anytime was going in I was obviously and I
live literally look more your house in the state was here and
skilled rope so and I remember when I got called the office one
day and she was like I mean like Ireland's had 76 later something
this year. I mean I was like look out that
window because you can see my house.
Oh you got lashed out before I just I didn't lose skilled.
I liked obviously don't PE and stuff yeah smart but I love the
woodwork and that work and doesn't skill sounds.
Like sounds like we young lad as well, like he's he's his couple
lads. All his mates from school are on
a school trip now this week they're all gone to Belgium.
But he's the class was that you can go to his geography and
history, like obviously having to look at Belgium and stuff,
but he, but he's a he's, he's off.
So basically he's nearly like some bit of five people in the
class like so he's in his base class, something like 40 people.
So I let him off a couple of days, but he's in work a couple
of days. They let them.
They were we wouldn't been able to do that.
But anyway, he's he was in, he was in school on Monday.
Could not get him out of bed but then it's today he was in work
like he it's also like he's like wide awake.
Yeah, yeah, it's. Mentally it's my.
Interest isn't it. Your body and your mind and
stuff like can all kick in when you have, you know, something
that just clicks with it. And as you have an interest in
something, it's like even when you see the last like working on
site, like doing the actual physical end of the trade, like
I'm doing the physical end of the apprenticeship.
And like that you get in there to do the academic end of it,
even though you might have not been academic in school.
When there's a means to an end with another man and the
formative means something and it actually, you know, matters to
what you're doing in your day-to-day, you can start to
focus a little bit more. Even though I think a lot of
lies and lasts and stuff that are going in now, like with the
likes of the ADHD and you know, even now like with my kids,
like, you know, you see them now growing up with autism and
something you're saying you wonder like what you know,
supports are going to be there. Like there's a lot of people do
get overlooked like. Yeah, I know 1% they put like
even when I was in skill, like I hate doing exams.
Like I was failing exams all the time and I was like, the school
isn't for me. I was like, I don't want to do
this. And my mind are just like, look,
please stick it out. Yeah.
Because if you go into a trade and you don't like it, you've
nothing to fall back on. Yeah, it's a great ground.
Stick it out. So just about stuck it out, like
just about kept the head down. I was still still messing
around. Yeah, in trouble or whatever.
But you got to getting fairness. Like having a mess in the skill
actually sort of kept me in there because I was just like
going. Exactly.
Yeah. And the teachers, I was like,
oh, yeah, you'll never get anywhere.
You'll never get anywhere. Next minute the teachers ring me
to do a job like. You know what I mean?
Yeah, how to get nowhere. And I got asked him to do a job
like. But then as soon as I went to
Phase 2, I was like, no books are back.
Yeah, yeah, he's gonna ask it out.
What's he? Got the head straight down like
and I was getting distinctions because I had something that I
wanted to do when they only want to do well.
So I had an interest in it German.
So I was able to get the head down and study for the same face
for like face as far as got big jump everyone frightening.
It it's a massive jump, yeah. We've said it exactly.
I think it's been a couple of seasons ago, like about skill
reform, like and given the likes of us what we would have needed
back then and the likes of yourselves there, like after
junior said, like there needs to be some sort of Ave. for
somebody to get into a trade earlier.
You know what I mean? Maybe car scales where an
apprenticeship side to everything in mind.
If there was something there like, you know what I mean, and
potentially like, you know what I mean, it could happen down the
line. But obviously it's a bigger, you
know, thing for us to be able to say that needs reform like but.
Yeah, it's easy for us. To say it was a whole, there's a
whole community out there of similar stories to what we say
and what you're saying and there's lads there that don't
stick it out and don't get to that endpoint.
Do you do like you fall away and then they get lost?
Exactly. And they don't know what
they're. Doing there, yeah, there's
there's did our side of it like what you're saying there like
you could do a reform like that and have a structure channel and
people into say electrics or carpentry.
Yeah. And then like you said, like
that could go tits up as well. Yeah, yeah.
And then what what have you done there?
Like you have to waste in three years in school now leaving
certain. Exactly.
Just about got believe and said
like I think I got like 114 points like it was terrible.
Like a just about passed every exam.
Was terrible. Like, you know, I mean, what's
what? It's not going to mean anything
like when you're qualified. Exactly.
What's the benchmark? You know what I mean?
Yeah, You can't benchmark yourself against somebody else
like. Exactly.
Who, you know, is gunning for that was big point to it's going
to be the doctor, the the lawyer or whatever they're going to be.
Yeah. You know, I know people who've
got great points and they've gone to college and now they're
working in some completely different what they qualify.
I was just about to say that like fair play David that gets a
head down and uses their brands and gets my points and gets
these masters, but how many people actually used them?
Not have been. Not many people are using.
Them and who'll ask if they leave them their results ever
again? Exactly like when I start with
my boss. Like I actually I found the job
true playing football. I play football with this young
lad. Yeah and his dad be bring me
down the train. Who's my boss now.
And if you ask me, I have how skill and I'm like Brill, just
take me on and finished. And he's like, yeah, if I've
worked there, if I've walked there, I'll take you on no
problem. Finished.
We leaving, served on the Friday and rang one Saturday.
I was like look unfinished. We leaving so I can I start.
He was like when you want to start was like Monday.
He was like, alright, Grant went straight in on the Monday.
Then I was like I don't want any.
Of that actually to think about it like, I mean now people talk
about social aspect of like, you know, creating links with people
through sports and all but actually for people actually see
somebody and what they're like in a football set and you know
yeah, yeah, you know their mindsets and, you know their
ability to get stuck in and the issues like there is like, you
know, types of people that would travel.
A lot to be sad for that and then see.
How they were the prom and stuff on Yeah.
And then like, you know, when getting CVS all the time, they
can you see the CV like I could get 30 to me, I can't meet 30
people like, you know, horse you're picking them off ACV like
the CVS and any work not now like you know what I mean?
You know, we always harp on about having this and that in
your CV but some like could write a short TV but it could be
the best lad in the country like you know.
Exactly. Yeah, Like that's what something
just say to like how? Like how can you actually George
off a CV? You know what I mean?
As I said, someone could write a terrible CV because they're bad
with paper. We're gonna, but it could be a
great worker. To social media, have something,
you know, like say like people are contacting me, like there
was messaging me saying any apprenticeships available or
something like is a work, is a work like sending a video.
I'm Keith. Yeah, Really interesting work,
which I do this, I do that and it's coming from the horse's
lips. Like it's not, you know?
Or even just like that, like, you know, if somebody has an
interest in the bit of DIY at home, like if it's not
electrical, like what I mean, a bit DIY in your handy on the
tools like yeah, show of in our video or some of stuff you've
made or stuff that you put up or, you know, a bit of DIY in
the background in the garden or whatever it is.
I mean, you got to look into lads maybe.
What we were saying about Snickers earlier, you're on
like, you know, having your gear ready, you know, and like, I
don't know, getting on to me and saying posting picture, look, I
have my gear here. Really interested in this.
I want to get going. I'm ready to go.
Like you ringing your man on the Saturday saying, yeah, he's
probably expecting you to say, Oh yeah, sure.
Like it'll take a week, like take two weeks.
And I got mentioned a Magalo for that.
Magalo for two weeks. When I'm back, I'll get.
Gone if you just racked up on the one year so it's a started
connecting up socket. You know what I mean?
But yeah, looking wouldn't be any harm, like say when I'm
sitting in the van to say like they could could be talking to
me or talking to Scott, like who's your boss?
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
Shake shake shake the person's hand and say yeah I'm looking
for a work and. Say like as a from a business
point of view, you could see the AI and the chatty BT and it must
be hard that really people apart from each other now and they
know they've all used ChatGPT for the CVS.
What I mean, you can't actually see the, you know, culture the
most of that's. What I'm saying like like that
would be a good idea? Like just a WhatsApp video.
Yeah, now it would be as well because as you said, ChatGPT
like ChatGPT is going to personalize someone like that's
not going to show their personality.
Do you know what I mean? That is just going to formally
right to make it look good. Yeah, and I don't could do that.
Now I put my hands up boy views Chachi from when companies reach
out for promos and I want to look for yeah, great deal deals
for certain things, both for the likes of CVS not I don't think
it's a great. Thing it's been all over
Ireland, our sneakers gave a chatty BT.
Like in the middle of last year, last last week at the.
Macaron I know it's like definitely a video or something
just to say. But as I said, I was lucky with
me. Boss known who I was already.
I mean he knew me for I think it was 2 years before and I was
around the same football club for three years before.
So he would have heard me for a year and then he would have seen
me for two years. Yeah good friends was young lad
like you know what I mean. So he knew and we.
So I was playing for Wexford at the time and he's from Bray.
So his son was coming from Bray. We had another lie come from
Greystones and then I was coming from right now.
Yeah. So the tree does some way that
and the two would have lads that used to rotate lifts.
So he came up to know me like it was like I was in the car for an
hour with him. Yeah.
He'd hit all my personality chatting away to him.
Then I'm trying and he see me, what I'm like on the pitch.
Yeah. Although if you asked him I was
like on the pitch. Totally different pairs, yeah.
And as I was saying, yeah, he just like he knew who it was
because yeah, we had an hour chat down, see me trying an hour
back. Do you know what I mean?
And it was. And you think that benefited you
as well as in, you know, you're probably wearing a bit of a
comfort zone or do you think that benefits?
You I was in a comfort zone to ask him for the job.
Like I wasn't nervous asking for the job.
I wasn't nervous standing ball and never sort of came towards
me, as in I was called to act in the bollocks and walk around.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I had that.
Like I tried to be mates that he won't care, you know, I mean.
I never had that, yeah. Yeah, like he does be always
like me like I'd say I'll even early I'm said I would turn
around like I'm afraid leave at 3:50 and everyone at 4:00 when
we actually. Finished.
You work as in case you because you are so familiar.
I just so yeah. Exactly.
I know like Daniel would be like that with me.
Like it's like an sometimes you'd be like Jesus.
Relax. Yeah.
You're trying to give a little bit.
But like we like we work till 4:00 and he's like, I'd say you
left at 3:00 and I'm like, I'm afraid leave any earlier because
what if you? What if you ring me?
Exactly. And he's like, why?
You know, because what if you ring me at 4:00 saying bring
that to him, I'm gone. You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, that's the way.
Not a good way to be. Yeah.
But like in fairness, though, it helped with the like obviously
we have I walk friendship like, yeah, I mean, we like I still
treat him as a boss generally. Yeah, and I always will.
And he still treats me as an employee.
But when we're on so you are in we're in the mind going to a
job. Yeah, that's when the sort of
train and so it comes back out, which, you know, I mean, yeah, I
was in the carpool and yeah, yeah, yeah, it comes out.
So you're back nearly friends and not talking about which a
lot. Obviously you'll talk about
walking the band or whatever got a job.
But then I still do what I talked about football.
He isn't last one. On the weekend or.
Never put a fan, so we're talking about football and
stuff. German, so it is a good
relationship to have with the bosses.
All. Of them fans of this fucking
show you. Can't post now anyway.
You're in the, you're in the. Yeah.
Yeah, but this? Season.
Would you think it would you consider yourself like 140 and
140 out of social media still? Like there's not where you see a
lot of people that go all in and stay in a life and it's full day
and a life like. No.
Gay Calvinism, Yeah, gone all in on it.
You can see the potentially. Yeah, there with it.
You see that? Yeah, no, it's definitely
started to go all in on it like I have.
I haven't missed the base since I started posting and that was
last January as well. So I started fitness and because
I was like what do I want to do? Like, gentlemen, yeah, I was
liking me job and I was like, how else can I filled my so I
was like, great, I'll get back into fitness to get in good
shape. I'll start post on Tik Toks to
see what I can get from it. Yeah.
And then that's I went like I have started.
Obviously I went all in at the start, but I hadn't really a
clue how to edit. I didn't really know how to do
any of that stuff. So many videos were nowhere near
as good as they will be now. Obviously still have a lot of
improvement to do with videos as you learn every day.
Yeah yeah, but I show myself all in with it like I am posting
every day, but it actually saw the makes going to walk funner
in a way that yeah, like you're like really crowned what me
doing this video people are going to see me doing feels part
this video people are going to see what I say chasing the wall.
This video they're going to see me just terminating the soccer.
This video they're going to see me change the label thing.
That's all electricians deal makes it a bit funner that
you're doing the videos and work because there's different
things. And then obviously I do the
whole day. So like people see me wake up,
go to then go train and then have dinner and then go to bed.
So I mean, so they're seeing me holiday.
Good for young lads even I know you're a fortune and able like
even for first years or someone that's looking to gain to the
trade like yeah, young fella like you know what I mean?
You're still doing your sports and it is a good lifestyle, you
know what I mean? It's like as a trade, it is.
You know what I mean? You're not, Yeah.
You're not coming home filthy. You're not.
You're not killed. Like, yeah.
And I still have a social life. Exactly.
Yeah. And I found like since I started
it, like I've gotten a lot of people text me saying or start
an electrical apprenticeship because I've seen their videos
or even people that have started and I first share is not like,
look, I'm struggling with this. I failed this exam.
I need tips like the amount of people I've got text me saying
they failed that P1 in phase two Yeah, because so many people are
doing commercial and industrial Yeah and just pulling cable and
bending metal and having a clue how to wear on Yeah and I'm like
if you can just literally they're like, oh, we only have
13 hours and they're marking on the coating, the trunk and all
those. Don't worry about getting
distinctions. It's not about that you.
Get yourself literally. Yeah, literally having a
distinction written on your qualification card, Right.
It looks great, but it means effort.
It used to be a team back. When there was a gold card or
something back in the day was that.
Did a station merit card was it? Merit card, Yeah, the gold cards
UK wasn't. It, it was a merit, like if you
had merit on and you went to Australia or something, like you
got like a top job. Really.
Back when we were gratified. Yeah.
Not. Not anymore.
Not just hasn't written on like, you know.
It's it's that to be like you'd never stop learning as a spark
actually, no matter what. You know that for a fact that
like everybody thinks that there's a level to it like it
that. But like even with the likes of
technology change and then all different systems coming in and
keep like even you know. On the day, like there's new
stuff, like it's amazing even. Sure, even learning with the
batteries and everything. Oh, it is new stuff on.
Heat. I find heating heating is.
Always, there's always a new, there's always a new time clock
that needs to be worried. Yeah.
Do you know what I mean? But like going back to you
there, like it is a good eye opener for like you see you
posting and saying you're doing a fuse board.
You're a fourth year. You're able to do probably able
to do a year or two now anyway. Yeah, but like if you're posting
that like and then someone is sitting as a second year and
they haven't touched anything, they're like, oh fuck, I'm yeah,
I'm gonna we got left in the dirt here and I left in the door
strike. Yeah, like you'd see ourselves
like, you know, I mean, like you put even the TikTok, put up a
lawyer or something. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, even just getting the engagement of people putting up
negative comments, you know? What I mean that's
conversations. Yeah, yeah.
And then I love the yellow sneakers, right?
Like I think they're deadly the same.
There's such an I think that's such a noise color and the
unique but the stick ioffer and I was just like, this is great
because people are bouncing. I'm sure they're noise.
They're on yeah, but it's building my pages and it's also
people are also looking at sneakers.
So if they see yellow sneakers and they're in the comments
gone, it's just like getting stick over a pair of trousers.
Let me look these up people that don't know about.
Stickers. Yeah, an engagement on Snickers
Down as well. Do you know what I mean?
I think that deadly, Yeah, with the amount like we walked on the
suite and lads were laughing. I mean, yeah.
I think it was nearly a thing, like we'll go bold with this,
like. Yeah, 100%.
Because there was going to be that thing where what you use
wearing like you're like Rd. workers and all that.
Yeah, yeah. But that, that was it.
Like, you know, I mean, that was it was a genius mail.
Yeah, now it's. Done on purpose because they got
like, you know, yourself, the black stuff that we wear the
whole time, like it's, it's always going to be no issue.
I mean, but it's not going to. It's not going to.
You wouldn't know it's any different.
You want to back it up if you're aware.
Yeah, Yeah, we had to. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, like a target yeah again with with social media side like
Snickers have gotten bored big time with you and oh.
Yes, as well. Yeah.
No, I had to say like that. They're a great company to be.
Yeah as well. You know what I mean?
They're showing any type of potential and they see you as an
asset like that. They will jump on board which
they will look after you and. I think that's what it's about
because you'll see like a lot of brands and stuff, like you would
just expect like people to come and buy their stuff.
Like, I mean, yeah, when they see that they're popular and
that's like, sure. You know, in the greater scheme
of things, you think Snickers don't need it.
You know, I. Mean that's that's yeah,
exactly. But they're still back to
industry and they're still back to the next generation coming up
as well. Yeah, myself, myself and Keith,
like, as you know, podcasters now, whatever it is, it's an
Ave. for them to get into it. But then they're looking at the
likes of yourself and you know, like I'd go into Lindsay, like,
and we talk like about like, you know, potential like guests that
we'd have on like during the season and stuff.
Yeah. You know, I'd say like, I'd say
like Aaron reached out or whatever it is like, and it's
just like they'd know, like she'd know everyone.
They got him in and yeah. Yeah, Paul Nealon, like, yeah,
that was it. We were, we had him on the the
podcast and, you know, we talked to everything, League of Ireland
and stuff. I had the Irish national team
and she was like, oh geez, we'd love to get behind something
like that. Yeah, we just put the two of
them together and now they're they're elaborating.
Yeah, it's mad like Snickers, like they.
So I actually started getting on board with Snickers and I only
had like 1500 followers and talk like it was crazy but.
I thought that. Was.
But like compared to for such a big brand, you wouldn't expect
only to get on board with someone who has 1500, someone
who has 100K. Yeah.
And then I was like, this is dead.
Like nearly everyone. Go follow that.
Yeah, Exactly. Yeah.
Properly following. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but like that's the way we looked at it.
But then I was thinking right on the lawyer to have 1500 people
watching my videos. He's.
Not going to ask some money. It's a good point you made, like
because we, we've been approached by other companies as
well and it's like, can you show us your analytics like and yeah,
your viewership and your, their followers and all that kind of
stuff. And we were like, jeez, we
aren't even thinking of that because we're just enjoying it
during the Yeah, exactly. And it makes you start thinking,
oh shit, we need to be there on that.
And then you end up turning into something that you're not.
You know exactly what sneakers just love the organic stuff.
Like yeah, at first thing Lindsay said.
It's never never even asked us like how he is getting them
viewership. You can see it there like we're
we're we're top ten and most yeah to the Irish charts like
them in. So that's all we need.
We need to show them. But they're happy.
To buy something that they see as a good Yeah, you know, and
like that like even with the lice ourselves, like if you're
putting up a day in a life like, you know, a part of that is like
you're wearing their gears with a whole lot of it or you're
getting ready and then you're doing so it is advertisement and
look like brands get the advertisement out of that.
Yeah. But like people think that's
free advertisement just back was not like the gear that they give
out. To Oh, it's mad not.
Free advertisement. No, it's not at all.
Like it's not free at all. They're giving you something
that they've put a lot of money in them to make, and you're
getting it back. Yeah.
And people are like, sure, you're getting free
advertisement. Like, that's great.
Like they're giving you something that cost them money.
Yeah. So the least you can do is give
them something back. You know what I mean?
And the time and effort that they'll do with the reposters as
well. Exactly.
And even commented, yeah, like the mail people that went to toy
comments and they're like, oh, that's my Snickers follow you,
Snickers comment on you. And I'm just like, yeah, because
like, they help me. I'm helping them, yeah.
That is the difference isn't it's a two way street with them
and I think that's one of the main reasons like with the
sponsorship for us. So it's just been such a an easy
transit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brilliant. Like.
But they're great. They're great crowd to work.
They have to say. Like there's been no hassle with
them whatsoever. Like I've never had any hassle
with them at all. And I'm on board with them a
year now. I think it is.
Yeah, look too weird. Yeah, and stuff, stuff says
quality. Like, I know it doesn't look
like I'm at the ripping the shit out of this jump, even for
companies like, you know, to get Brandon for all the lads like.
Yeah, exactly. Look after you, I mean, and a
lot of people don't know that Snickers do do that.
They will. They could do with a box in
their shorts. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but like they jumped on sponsored me from free and they
were my main sponsor. I sent them.
So we had a sponsorship like lists made out for companies.
Yeah and they said I'll take the gold straight away.
And I was like, they were like how much is it?
Told them to price? Yeah, no problem.
Send me over an invoice. Like no, no, like I will think
about it. Yeah, 100% all jump on.
Yeah, yeah, they do. Once they're, once they're in on
something, they, they fully back you like we've had like, you
know, a couple of dips in with other people like and then, you
know, Peter's output. They're like proper on, aren't
they? Yeah, yeah.
It's like if you have a community of like the open day
that we went to the other day and you're seeing the
individuals that coming out like it's, you know, boys and girls
have been in the game for, you know, longer than we have.
Like, you know, the likes of Pete the builder, like, you know
what I mean? Who's, you know, on TV, TV and,
you know, on the radio and, you know, TV shows and the whole lot
like. And then you rock up like and
you always have that sort of imposter syndrome that I mean
that like even though you're doing something and you're
putting a lot of time into it and you feel like you're not
supposed to be there. And then you see everybody torn
and they're coming over and hugging you like the Lindsay and
you've radar race coming up talking to you and everybody's
like, you know, it is like a community like.
It is. It's like a family.
It is. It is like a family, in
fairness. Yeah, Yeah.
Snickers. Very cool to be a part of, but
they are good now in fairness. But it's smart even to think
that like someone so big, they have no care in the world, like
how big or how small you're. Like, if you do them a favor,
they have no problem doing your favor.
Like, but like, I'm sitting there watching football matches
and you see Snickers coming open.
Yeah. Yeah, they woke with me.
Partners. Yeah.
Partners, yeah. Like I think since I've jumped
on every campaign that they've ran of new stuff, they gave me
like and I could like to be stressing because like some
video good enough that video good enough to be asked me, man,
I don't watching. I was in that already.
Right. Now it's it's it's it is.
It is. That what's what's the plan
going forward? That's a no question.
You're going to ask? Yeah.
See great movies, think alike. So.
Phase four, I'm sorry you're in you're going phase.
Going into phase 6 now in September accordingly, so
waiting on the final call board hopefully I was in slowly go for
phase four. That was it was good.
I actually liked the independence been away been away
from the parents and actually having to pay like I was.
I actually stayed in the house that they had an own.
Like there was an owner of the house, but they were a landlord
didn't live there. Yeah.
So I was paying ESP is paying heat and also I was getting like
the full whack of what it's like to live on your own.
Yeah, yeah, right. This daily button broke like.
Fans and noodles. Yeah, literally, yeah.
And then I was like, oh, deadly. I'm after getting me tax back
from college, so I'm gonna live off an Apache for the week
because there's a patch up the road for them now going on to a
question. They're gone into phase six,
obviously get show it, get me papers and I'd love to go out
with me on like I just, yeah, I'd love to just now.
Obviously it's a lot harder than people think.
I've chatted, obviously I've spoke to my boss, getting
opinions off him. He said it's one of the best and
one of the worst things he ever done.
He says, obviously it's hard because you're chasing money,
Yeah, trying to price jobs. If you don't get jobs, then you
have no work. You have to try and pay bills,
all this stuff. But then you said he has three
kids. And as I was saying, one of
those kids played for, played football with me.
And he was saying it was great to be able to go and watch my
kids play, say, a skill football match when they were in.
School we were only talking about.
Because they have the freedom of going so. 2nd that same.
Yeah, he said. Like, the freedom you have is
great, but there is also hardship to it, yeah.
Yeah. Exactly like doing a right.
There's no hard, exactly. That's it.
Yeah. I thought that's words.
Yeah. You know.
Yeah, and that's gonna. Be hard like nothing's easy.
Exactly, you want that, you know, I mean you want to like
you want to have a work ethic that you want to work towards
what you want to. I mean, like you can't just
expected to be handed here and I'm going to sit there and be
like right grand. I'm not going to put me name out
there and I'm going to get all the work in the world.
I mean that's not going to happen.
So that's the whole reason I actually started posting on
social medios to get my name out there so that in the future when
I walk myself, people would be like, Oh yeah, get him in.
I've seen him all over and you know all.
I'm electrical in England. Yeah, he actually told me since
he started TikTok, the amount of work he gets is crazy because
easy one, he's actually a lovely fella to talk to.
Yeah, I've spoke to him ago. But now about like the likes of
working for yourself and stuff and getting the pins off him.
And he was like, you get a lot of work through social media And
I was like, great, because that was my whole plan.
Like I want to, like obviously I'd love to work for myself and
get walk through social media, but then also inspire other
people that they can. It's a different beast over
there the minute I wasn't in the UK with.
Stuff. It's nearly every.
I got one of my biggest contracts through social media.
Really. Yeah, yeah.
It was more me reaching out to someone else that's aren't like
a company that was on social media.
Really. And perfect Storm came back to
me, said, yeah, look, we meet and have a coffee.
We give you this one job. And now it's snowballed into
like a lot of jobs but. That's that's what you want to
leave. The houses for the year deadly
if things go to plan like yeah and doing solar for them and now
and everything like the company badly.
So I just took took a punt. So yeah, it's not easy like you
know what I mean? You will find work if you go on
your own, you will find it like. Exactly, and that's that's the
aim is to go out on my own like obviously, like I'd actually
find out to get jobs in big car to get a job in big companies
because I'd fail a lot medical. So I've I've had heart surgeries
and on deaf me right here. So my dad is now sparks in our
trail. Yeah, but he told me I wouldn't
pass the medical because if I wouldn't hear try and come with
ghosts. You know what I mean?
So I know a lot of big companies do medical.
So I'd say the hearing loss in me right here, I'd lose a lot.
So that sort of has been more eager to go work for yourself.
Yeah. Because I can't fall back on
like, yeah, don't get a comfortable job in a big
company. Exactly.
Yeah. And you're not like that's the
good part that is much attack from that is that no matter
what, you know, some people might see as disabilities in
regards to, you know, holding your back in a sense.
Yeah. You know, because of medicals
and stuff, you're not seeing it like that.
You're seeing as some that can drive.
Exactly. Yeah, I'm not like taking an
option, taking a positive out of a negative text.
You know what I mean? That's that's what I was always
brought up and showed how to do. Like don't think happens always
a negative try find a positive out, which you know what I mean.
So straight away when I knew that I'd found a medical, it was
like, right, Grant, just because I can't didn't get in there
doesn't mean I'm going to be Chase Smalls for the rest of my
life. We can't we go and set up my own
business and we can't we do the likes of industrial.
Do you know what I mean? Just because I'd fail someone
else's medical doesn't mean I can't have a company.
I do it myself or have people doing it for me.
Do you know what I mean? That's all.
Just integrate a scheme of their own insurance, that's all that
is. Exactly.
Any aspirations to go away or do
a stint in Australia? I'd love to put the girlfriends
on board home birth. So yeah, yeah.
So I don't know if she able trying to persuade her because I
like I'd even like to just go for a year just to wake up every
day and go right. I'm going on the site and see
this one not gone. So the only thing is what it is
like, you know, you go to Australia, it's going to take a
three months and 10 grand to get your Australian recognized trade
certificate. So you're three months in
already. Like then out of that three
months of the 12, you know, you're then pulling into the
remainder of the 9:00 and just trying to, you know, get what
you can have. I think after the three months
you still aren't even qualified to sign off on jobs.
And so really still like coming in underneath like like a helper
nearly. I mean you have to do like a
like a test and inspection course like do we do here like
and then you get signed off like.
So there is a bit in I think you have to commit to the two years
if you want to be proud. If you're on it, yeah, yeah.
And get a bit of crack out of it.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's definitely something I've looked into, like
I've not looked into enough. But it's also like, it's all,
it's always been sort of thought about just the fact that you're
waking up here from, say, like German July are probably the
only months we actually get someone on.
So, yeah, like even out there today, like it was sunny for 10
minutes and it was Hailstown. So I'd like to be able to walk
on a site in the sun. Yeah, every day.
You know, I mean, and then Snickers can be kind of give me
shots, finally show off that T-shirts a bit margin on, I
mean, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. The big jackets.
But now it's definitely something I'm thinking around.
You just have to try to persuade Leanne, the girlfriend.
So there, you know, see, you see going to Australia.
See your falls when you get qualified, it'll be
self-employed. Like quicker than you think.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
A lot of lads go RCT for us, you know, I mean.
Where you're sobbing in for sobbing in.
Yeah. And it's actually that way.
I heard there's actually a few companies that if you work for
them as an apprentice, as an employee, they actually make it
go RCT when I qualified. So you're sobbing in off them.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
What's the hardest questions left?
Hardest question, Sneakers are black.
Can't mention that. Spotify playlist.
Each guest gets to pick a song for this season.
Spotify playlist. What would your song of choice
be? I'm loving a bit of Ramyin Boy
sound, Fender and. And is that Olivia Dan?
That's who It is a great song. Yeah.
No doubt that would be yeah. That would move me.
Song at the moment, yeah. That's on the playlist.
Yeah, their own playlist. That's on your own playlist.
Yeah. Great job, great song.
Good choice. We'll.
Get that one on for you Sam for coming on.
Brother, no worries. Thanks very much for.
Appreciate it. Very much.
That's it we're done and I mean season 9 is done.
This bonus episode with Aaron Murray couldn't have gone any
better. Trade focused electrical
focused, but it's time to to call a day for this season keep.
Watching yeah, it's time to clock out.
I think we've had good innings. The guests have been absolutely
amazing, had an amazing venue. Sponsors were on at this season.
Thanks very much to Snickers. Yeah, thanks very much to Hagar
and of course and to electrical here in Ashbourne.
And yeah, going to clock out. We're going to start a Recon for
next season. We'll be coming back to you in
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