1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,520 This is a good start. Hello and welcome to I believe 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,800 in dogs and prepare no already Jesus Christ. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,560 OK, see. Got this. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,560 I've got, I get. Of course I've got this. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Hello and welcome to I Believe in Dog for the first episode. 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,840 My name is Simon. And I'm bon. 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,880 And we will be your host, making sure that you are prepared to 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,680 laugh, cry, invest socks and tissues and then realise your 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,880 dog is far more absorbent. And we're going to be talking 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,600 about pretty much everything dog related in that, right? 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,960 We are. We're. 12 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:47,800 Going to look at everything that makes you laugh, cry because 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,280 dogs seem to tick all those boxes. 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,200 Well, mine do anyway. I don't know about you know and 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Bon, but you seem to be a bit more chilled. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,800 You know, make me angry sometimes. 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Bob's adorable. He's done anything wrong and 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,640 it's all lie. Bob is an official Angel. 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,120 I think maybe we should start by talking about our own dogs. 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,960 Really. I've got a well, she'll be 10 21 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:09,280 years old in May, a skew layer all the way from Greece. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,640 It's a bit of a hodgepodge of everything. 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,160 And a seven month well. She'll be 8 month old German 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,400 Shepherd called Strudel. She doesn't look like a puppy 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,840 anymore Simon. It upsets me greatly. 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,160 She was a puppy for life. 3 seconds. 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,360 You sent me a photo when she came home and I was like, look 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,120 at that. And with three weeks I was like. 29 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:33,320 Where the F is the. P You said you got because 30 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:35,200 you've got a full grown dog already. 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,960 Yeah, well, she's about, she's about 25 kilos now. 32 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:40,200 Layer at her heaviest is about 19. 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,320 So she's got some growing to go just a bit. 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,200 She's. How about you tell us about so I 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,680 obviously Bob and Noah. I have lovely Noah who is also a 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,520 rescue like Leah. I had her from when she was 9 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,240 weeks old. He was born with unformed eyes. 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,640 So they will look at home with someone who had experience of 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,760 blind dogs but particularly chow chows. 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,080 They are as you are aware as a self. 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,440 They are a special breeze and do require someone who understands 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,480 the breed bit like me as a human being. 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,600 So never. And she will be 3 in June. 44 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,920 And then I have Bob that is an Angel in dog form. 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,120 He has just turned 2 years old. He's an absolute camera hawk, 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,960 umm, idiot and just the most gorgeous boy. 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,040 He could never do anything to upset me. 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,040 He's probably the most unchow chow I've ever met. 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,760 He is, and that disappoints. Actually, that is where he's 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,520 disappointed. As an introvert, I have because 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,200 they were an excuse to tell people, no, you can't pet my dog 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,200 and please don't talk to me. Do you well know? 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Well, you at Bob's works with the pets as therapy, doesn't he? 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Because at train. Stations and things. 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Yeah, he does, and Noah does as well. 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,240 But for her, she feels like it's a nap with tummy rubs for an 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,160 hour or two. But he thinks it's just a queue 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,920 of people wanting to pet him, which it is. 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,080 So we should really start with like giving some background 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,880 about us as well, not just our pups. 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,600 So I am a canine behaviorist, more of a dog psychologist than 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,200 a dog trainer is probably about 37. 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,240 I'm only 30% myself, about 37 years in the making because my 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,240 parents used to breed and train German Shepherds back in the 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,800 day. So I've grown up with dogs. 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Dogs have always been a part of my life. 67 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,880 I've done a few jobs in between, but I was always destined to 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,160 work with dogs in the end. And how about you, Bon? 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,360 You could do something really exciting. 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Yeah, do what? Oh my, I've just realized that 71 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,360 we're not even in the same my age bracket. 72 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,960 Oh, now I'm going to go and cry. I mean, and people say you're 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,760 not 48. I do have to say I know it's not 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,720 because I look young. It's because I'm really 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,800 immature. So no one can actually guess how 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,440 old I am. We'll just put that out there. 77 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:05,640 That was my not sure yet. We'll figure that out. 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Yeah. But yeah, you're not immature. 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 You're a sensible actually that's. 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,120 My wife, I'm sure she'll give way. 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Yeah, I'll send her a message later. 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,560 Give me the she'll. Give a very unbiased opinion. 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,400 I've had the well behaved, I'm away from the wife, Simon. 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,520 What's he really like? Totally. 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,200 But yeah, so I. Think it's completely different. 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,400 She'll just say that'll be the response, I know it. 87 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,200 Pretty much one word answers. I have Oh my God, this pains me 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,720 to say it in this way, but I'm going to say it for comedic 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,520 effect. Half a century, could I have? 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Could you do therapy for me though? 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,600 Experience of dogs grew up in Yeah, I grew up in farming, so 92 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,000 we always had dogs from the day I was born, right the way 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,880 through. I had a brief period after I 94 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,480 left home where I had five years without a dog and missed it 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,720 terribly. So the first thing I convinced 96 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,160 my ex-husband to do when we got married was get a dog. 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,960 And then that's continued ever since. 98 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Had many different breeds, obviously, from working dogs to, 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,360 God forbid, Pomeranians. Very, very different to working 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,040 dog. Well, that's what everybody 101 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:27,560 says, but personality wise. I have a good laugh with 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Pomeranian at like the dog events when I say people say to 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,040 me, oh, is that a Pomeranian when they're Bob? 104 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,640 But I'm just like, no, but yeah, so many, many. 105 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,280 It's a very big Pomeranian, a big dinner. 106 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:43,000 So, yeah, just lots of years. And I can't imagine life without 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,080 logging it. Yeah, I prefer them to humans. 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,400 Pretty much the consensus these days, isn't it? 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,040 The reason why I work with dogs is because I'd much rather work 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,080 with dogs. Than people I would like people 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,240 to teach their dogs how to use the bank card and communicate 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,840 with me. I don't mean this really because 113 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,200 obviously I do need the humans in order to. 114 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,240 I do know. But if you train your dog to 115 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,280 pay, you'll be my favorite human I've met. 116 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,920 I could try and work it into my programming with my clients 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,480 contactless. It's fine. 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,080 People put the chip and pin in like Harry Potter ones, don't 119 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,680 they? And like they do, yeah, I've 120 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:21,880 seen that before. They should do that with you. 121 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,200 In fact, I did meet a dog at the weekend, Lass, who they're with 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Lucy and the trick stars because we I get to see them at the 123 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 bitches in. But she has taught her dog 124 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Shakespeare how to hold the card in his mouth and then she 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,040 there's and he will tap it. And we did say we must film that 126 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,720 at another event because if a. Highly skilled dog trainer could 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,520 manage that. No one else has any sense. 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,320 No, exactly. Approach me Internet. 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,400 So I suppose we should also mention how me and you met. 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,240 Yes. I stumbled on your artwork on 131 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Instagram. He did and Bond does. 132 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,120 I mean, this is probably going to sound very biased, but 133 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,680 probably some of the best dog artwork and merchandise and I've 134 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,080 ever seen in my life. And so I ended up following you 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,920 and we just got talking on Instagram, didn't we? 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Really. We. 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Did. Yeah, just yeah. 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 We found we have a very similar sense of humor quite quickly. 139 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,560 I think in in our. And and I I sort of approach, I 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 was like, I really want to get some like merchandise done of 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Leia because I didn't have Strudel at time, Tony. 142 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,920 You didn't know. And you had the amazing idea to 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,880 pop some custom artwork on some converse not got. 144 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Them yes, because we one of our big bonding moments to start 145 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,520 with was the love of Star Wars I. 146 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Mean I'm. I've got a brand. 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Recommendation. ABS I've got SpongeBob on. 148 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,400 I don't know what I was thinking trying to make myself you go 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,560 another way. I do it. 150 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,960 I have Chow Chows because they look like Ewoks and Wookies, 151 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,760 really in one. So we did. 152 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,840 Yeah, we did. Over a love of Star Wars, 153 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,520 because that is like my ultimate dog. 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Star Wars and Deadpool, they're my three things. 155 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,720 If anybody hadn't realized I am a complete tomboy, if you ever 156 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,480 see me in a dress, you won't know it's me. 157 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,600 But yeah, we did. And so you were headed to 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,120 Goodworth with Jack and Sean. And so I said I'm going to make 159 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 shoes and. Yeah, so for those who don't 160 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,200 know, I'm on another podcast with comedians Jack D and Sean 161 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,919 Walsh. Fantastic podcast. 162 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:37,039 Go listen to it. But yeah, and it's sort of 163 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,559 fostered this friendship between me and you, which is great. 164 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,280 I love it. You've helped me laugh it when 165 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,680 he was going through her moments, which we eventually 166 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:49,080 discovered why she was sort of struggling in general. 167 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 But you were fantastic and helped me to support pop through 168 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,320 it as well because you're good at what you do so. 169 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Yeah, I try, I try. But back to dogs. 170 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Less Star Wars, more dogs. Yeah, there's Star Wars. 171 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,640 More dogs. There weren't any dogs in Star 172 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Wars. No, there were elephants. 173 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,840 They had elephants in costumes, didn't they? 174 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,800 For the Panthers thing that some people ride on their outfits 175 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,160 cost in fact I don't think. They're you don't need to 176 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,720 explain what that is to me. For the listeners who might not 177 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,960 be as big a nerd as me. Speaker, why are you explaining 178 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,760 what a banther is? Today's listeners homework is to 179 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,360 go find out what a banther is. Yeah. 180 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,400 And then let us know if you're like one. 181 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Yeah. Yes, that's one. 182 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:35,840 Thing We want pictures of people's dogs that look like 183 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Star Wars characters. That would be incredible. 184 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,960 It's amazing. I am. 185 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Yeah. I'm all up for that. 186 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Yeah. So please listen if you do have 187 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,040 a picture of your dog looking like Star Wars characters or 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,240 purposely dressed up as scowl. Yeah, as well send. 189 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Them in because we will it won't win you anything but we'll 190 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,600 appreciate. We'll put them into a post on 191 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 the Instagram. We'll do a whole host of dogs 192 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,600 impersonating Star Wars characters because. 193 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,520 We should have like a Star Wars Dog of the Month or something 194 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,440 like that. Particularly obviously this, 195 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,160 we're recording this today. It's launching on the 1st of May 196 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,040 and we all know what comes in May but with May be with you in 197 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,240 just a few days time followed by Revenge of the 5th. 198 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,200 You know what? Not ironically, those are marked 199 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:33,240 in my calendar Thursday. Everyone needs to remember. 200 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,160 I don't remember my my cousin, my best friend's birthday, but I 201 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,960 remember would stop. Cannot be forgotten. 202 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,840 They cannot be forgotten. So yeah, send them in. 203 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Although today podcast day is is May the 1st, if you get as many 204 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,960 as you can in before May the 4th we will post. 205 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,200 Oh yeah, I think 3 days is enough, surely. 206 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:58,320 Plenty of time for all three of our listeners to the first 207 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,400 episode. It's just me one a day. 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,640 She's got, yeah, she's called Layer doesn't. 209 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,480 I'll be getting tea towels out, sticking around Bob making them 210 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,360 into an Ewok, and I have actually got a picture of Wilson 211 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,240 dressed as a Wookie. Do you know what? 212 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,720 That's a really nice segue into the next bit, because I was 213 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,800 going to ask you about Wilson. So I don't know if people out 214 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,120 there are followers of Bonn, but one of the many reasons Bonn is 215 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,240 so it. Well, I'll let you tell your 216 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,920 story. Why you're so in love with Chows 217 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,240 really is because of a very special dog named Wilson. 218 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,680 Very special. SO I fell in love with Chows 219 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,360 after meeting one in Romania, weirdly enough, but then also 220 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,920 stalking many on Instagram of whom will probably humans will 221 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,880 listen to the hiss and of a terrible dog stalker. 222 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,680 One in particular, a lovely chow by the name of Helmut The Who 223 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,520 had a love of classic cars and towards the end of the first 224 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,040 year of the pandemic, it was time to have a Chow Chow. 225 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,240 They I saw this puppy and I was like, look at him. 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,560 I mean, he was an ugly baby maybe, but it was still cute. 227 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,280 And at the time, my husband, no, it's not time. 228 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,880 It's not time. And in the March he said it's 229 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,440 just so it happened at that very part. 230 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,440 He hadn't got a home. He was still there. 231 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:21,200 So a 5 month old Wilson came home and it was love at first 232 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,560 sight. I mean, it's very hard to 233 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:27,320 explain just how different chow is to other dogs. 234 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,040 And I don't say because, oh, I'm a fan of chows as as a trainer, 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,720 you'll know behaviourally they're very, very different. 236 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,440 They they come home house trained like they're so cat 237 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,320 like. So they come home house trained. 238 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,720 They come out of their mums like little old men. 239 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Like although they have puppy moments, they're also weirdly 240 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,760 very well behaved. Had this this at the time we had 241 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,880 six other dogs already, so he was one of seven in a big old 242 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,520 pack and we had three Pomeranians, Auntie Cocker, 243 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,080 spaniel and a Labradoodle and we added a Wilson into the mix. 244 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,880 I know it was quite an eclectic mix that mostly, mostly risk, 245 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,520 but yeah, it was, it was quite the mix. 246 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,600 So he came and it was just innocent love for me. 247 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Like it's also very hard to explain that a relationship with 248 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,320 a Chow is quite different to any other dog because you actually 249 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,560 have to work like, it is almost like having a relationship with 250 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:25,560 a human. And I know I see it in articles 251 00:13:25,560 --> 00:13:28,400 where vets have said they're the most stupid of all the dogs. 252 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,640 And I would argue they're actually probably one of the 253 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,560 most intelligent, not as intelligent as some of the 254 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:37,360 herding breeds or working breeds, but their level of 255 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,960 intelligent evidence a dog needs to be as stubborn and wilful as 256 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,400 a chat with and to wrap humans around their finger like poor 257 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,000 they don't have fingers like they do. 258 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,000 So yes, it was an instant bond. And then in the kind of year or 259 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:58,160 so that went to a massive life, my my, and ended up getting 260 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,320 divorced after 26 years and which was huge and for me 261 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,320 particularly difficult because I have known me. 262 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,960 So it was a shift from having had that to kind of starting 263 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,480 life over again. And post pandemic, having been 264 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,720 one of the people had to stay at home even more so because life 265 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,640 had become much more isolated. So we sort of got our stuff 266 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,800 together and I had to be very sensible about which dog came 267 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,760 with me. I did want to bring the 268 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Labradoodle along with the spaniel. 269 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Unfortunately passed away from count 5 in the February and that 270 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 was it was sad because him and Wilson were like Statler and 271 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Waldorf. So it's kind of nice that I know 272 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,760 that they are probably like that again now. 273 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,040 Probably looking down right now going Jesus Christ she ever shut 274 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,440 up but so I kind of wanted to bring the Labradoodle but as you 275 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,040 as a dog trainer will know a Labradoodle charge him quickly 276 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,880 well matched on in terms of their activity level. 277 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,880 I do live with some randomly 1 lasers that mean that I'm not 278 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,360 always able to move you know as well. 279 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,240 Sometimes I can very well and other times, you know, I was in 280 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,000 the wheelchair for some time as well. 281 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,680 So Chow is kind of a good breed as well because they're not 282 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,920 overly reliant on my Cam. They will go for some miles as 283 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Bob again, he's a very athletic Chow. 284 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,960 Back in the trend. Yeah, but Bob's a Bob. 285 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Bob's not a chow Bob. It's just. 286 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,560 Bob. Bob's a Bob and Wilson his own 287 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,920 way. We'd go indoors, but at the time 288 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,880 I was still doing endurance stuff and actually he would do 289 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,400 like intervals with me. So he'd go for a bit of a run, 290 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,680 then we'd have a try. But yes, then that came with and 291 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,160 yeah, been through a really dark few years and it's the reason 292 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,800 that I stayed a lot at that time. 293 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,120 I remember spent a good friend who's a GP. 294 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 I don't know what to do. I think this might be it for me 295 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,320 because I've got no reason. And he said, what, you mean 296 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,880 you've got Wilson? And that kind of clicked in my 297 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,240 head. Oh, actually, I do have Wilson 298 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,520 then. Yeah, unfortunately in February 299 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,240 of 24, woke up 1 morning and he was really poorly. 300 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,360 It was 4:30 in the morning. I won't go into great details, 301 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,480 but it was clear that he was really very, he'd been healthy 302 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,240 his whole life, absolute knob head, but healthy. 303 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,320 And took him to the vets and it took a few weeks to actually 304 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,720 figure out what was going on. And it turned out that he had 305 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,640 kidney disease as a result of other stuff and he was at stage 306 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,480 2. And most dogs can live a few 307 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,200 years with stage 2 managed. And again, this is where chows 308 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,840 are very different because they won't do that. 309 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,800 They'll be like, I don't want that life. 310 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,400 And to be fair, I'd be, I'd be the same as a human. 311 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,760 I'd be the same if I was facing something like that. 312 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,760 I'd want quality of life over time. 313 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,960 And so I had 10 weeks with him and I made a conscious decision 314 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,520 to be present for him. And he'd never been afraid to 315 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,080 himself. So he was we used to go to like 316 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,360 chow meats and stuff and he would act like the little pig, 317 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,040 even though he was probably one of the younger ones there. 318 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,599 He would literally go around and check on all the house, say hi. 319 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,280 He was a very stoic, chilled lad, didn't meet never he didn't 320 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,720 like and he'd just go up, have a sniff, say hi and then trundle 321 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,560 along. And he was very for his of 322 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,640 lagging. It puddled. 323 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:25,240 But in the winter and autumn when it he everybody did with 324 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,800 him on those and I just sort of realized he was never to be 325 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,520 himself. So I needed to kind of show up 326 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,280 for him in that way. The choice that I and whatever 327 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,080 time and just living the life that he wanted, doing the things 328 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,200 that he loved to do, not worrying about the judgement of 329 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 others, which was something I'd always worried about. 330 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,040 I know we all but I really had worried what other people 331 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,160 thought of me. Clearly I don't care as anyone 332 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,720 who's made me all know. So yeah, we kind of I made him a 333 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,040 little bucket list. Initially I'd wanted to like 334 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,880 take him over to Finland for the snow and stuff. 335 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,000 And then we was this we were talking weeks and not months. 336 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,240 So that window but I strong armed snow zone into letting us 337 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,080 go in after hours, which they initially thought was a wind up 338 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,080 when I rang up and said, I know you'll never have had this last 339 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,000 before, but can I bring my dog in after hours because he's 340 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,400 going to die and he really likes snow. 341 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,680 It's his favorite thing. And they sort of rang back and 342 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,880 said we could give you some bags of snow. 343 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,160 And I was like, Yep, that's absolutely fine. 344 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,200 However many you can sell me, I'll take them and I'll go park 345 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,560 in Milton Keynes and I'll fling the snow on the floor and he can 346 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,960 roll around. They rang back a short while 347 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,360 later and said we've been talking about it, he can come. 348 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,160 So we. Yeah, it was incredible. 349 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,680 So in the daytime, we had a celebration of his life. 350 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,960 So 10 days previously, I'd put out on social media and said, 351 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,320 listen, his favorite thing, let's see how many we can get. 352 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,240 And it was quite an amazing day because people turned them all 353 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,160 over. One in particular is Bow and 354 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Bear, the two chow chows from Derby Way, who I didn't know 355 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,480 they were going to be turning up. 356 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,920 I see a story. So we're on our way and it was 357 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,920 incredible. And there was a child. 358 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,520 There's a child called Hanson Boo Chow Chow, but she is a bit 359 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,800 of film star, film show docs. He was a panda. 360 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,040 He was a panda in it and he came along, but also we found out 361 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,240 that he's actually Will's cousin and they instantly bonded, but 362 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,680 we didn't know that till afterwards. 363 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,120 But there's a little video of them to act and for the time and 364 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,360 it's phenomenal. So we had all of that. 365 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:32,680 Then we drove down to mountains, popped him in with snow. 366 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,680 He had a roll around in the snow and in true chow fashion, 367 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,800 suddenly decided he was done and walked. 368 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,520 So it was just, I mean, we laughed, we cried because I knew 369 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,400 we were sort of few days and four days later he did pass away 370 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,560 in my arms. And I didn't know what to do 371 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,400 next because had been everything. 372 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,280 And it was quite scary because I'm not a human being who has 373 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,920 that massive support network or that kind of. 374 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,680 But I had Noah and I had to stay present for Noah. 375 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,800 She missed him massively, so she managed to convince other people 376 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,360 to tell me that we needed a Bob. So that's how we ended up with 377 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:12,360 Bob. But while Wilson was poorly 378 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,040 started painting dogs, I'd wanted to paint as a young It 379 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:19,400 would have been my career of choice, but the environment I 380 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,000 grew up in didn't support me to do that and say that by the by, 381 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,160 when you've grown up in the way that I did to have to be an 382 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,040 adult. And then life just happens and 383 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:34,800 busy doing the do. And so my uncle had said to me 384 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,000 at the Christmas that dog stuff is what you were born to do. 385 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Like painting the dog shit is. It's amazing. 386 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,840 This is what you were born to do. 387 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,160 I shall be very set at you if you don't continue that. 388 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,000 And then he very rarely died a couple of weeks later, and now 389 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,560 I'm terrified he'll call me if I. 390 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,680 As morbid as it sounds, that's quite the motivation. 391 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,360 Trust me and he's talking to Border collie. 392 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:03,480 He had a lifelong love affair with border collies. 393 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Very weirdly, at every show I'm at, there seems quite a lot of 394 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,280 border collies come to visit me. And I always think, is that him 395 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:14,960 just go and watch a new. So yeah. 396 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,200 So it kind of grew from there and I just decided to take the 397 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,920 left, learn from Wilson, which was I loved him additionally, 398 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,040 but actually I realized we were very alike. 399 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,760 I'm stubborn, I'm an introvert. I'm built like a piece of 400 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,160 articulated furniture. I'm very headstrong. 401 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Not as hairy he was. I just like to put. 402 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,640 That I'll fill that role, I'll fill the. 403 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,640 Hair. Yeah, that's you. 404 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,440 Yeah, you do actually, actually say it. 405 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,680 You what? I would imagine Boss would have 406 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:47,760 thought if he was human either. I really can just throw that out 407 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,520 there. So like. 408 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,840 A truck and hairy. I like it. 409 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,840 I'll take it, I'll take it. And he just wasn't afraid to be 410 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,040 himself. And I realised that I loved 411 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,480 those things in him and I needed to learn to love that in me. 412 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,480 So that was what he taught me. And here we are. 413 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,840 And all the love that I can't give him anymore goes into that 414 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,360 I paint because. And you can, you can see, I know 415 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800 I'm a bit biased because I've got the trainings with layer on 416 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,520 it, but you can just see it in everything. 417 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,600 You're not just pumping out merchandise. 418 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,440 Like you can see the care that's got into it. 419 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,520 And I like how because you were asking me all these questions 420 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,680 about layer before you even paint, even though you're going 421 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,840 to do some sort of Star Wars theme because it's called layer. 422 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,640 Like you're asking this question about what's a personality like 423 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,080 and things like that. And I think that's really missed 424 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,120 in that sort of like if you want to have a token for your dog, it 425 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:34,480 needs to be them that's coming through. 426 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,400 It's not just a cookie cutter going Oh yeah, this is a 427 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320 retriever or this is a or whatever, like it's that 428 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,000 person's dog. It has to get asked at events 429 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,720 now, why have you got this breed and this breed? 430 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 And yes, I have lots of breeds I've painted and they're not on 431 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,640 my website. But it's because over time 432 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,240 realised I really enjoying painting your dog and I've 433 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,160 really not just your side. And I'd like to point out I've 434 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,280 enjoyed every dog. The royal you I mean as. 435 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,080 In the Royal you are three listeners. 436 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,280 I enjoy your dog and I realise, like I see the joy that it 437 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,320 brings to realise you can have your own dog on stuff. 438 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,240 Even though we see stuff with breeds on and if we've got a 439 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,280 specific breed, we want to have stuff with that on. 440 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,240 You can't beat it when it's your dog and when you see the 441 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720 personality is so different in each and of them. 442 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,440 So when I'm talking to people, I say I just want their told us. 443 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,160 That's all I want because that's where all the personalities that 444 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,000 face and then I sit and I have that that time, you know, 445 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,120 looking at the photos, start getting to know them through the 446 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:37,600 people's stories and just and met the most awesome people he 447 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,520 can to get. I mean, I do it every event, but 448 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,320 there was a dog at the weekend that I know you'll never one of 449 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,840 and I doubt anyone else will. They're not 100% certain what 450 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,520 the second breed is. I'm pretty convinced it was a 451 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,400 head accent, but the head was a spaniel. 452 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,200 A Cocker spaniel, and I know. Interesting. 453 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,160 Me edible looking dog, incredible dog Connie and she 454 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720 was so cute and but people like that are never going to their 455 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,520 dog on stuff and I just think we love our dogs so much that 456 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,880 actually like why we have them on everything Like why shouldn't 457 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,520 we celebrate that? I completely agree because like 458 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,200 I think I mentioned at the top of the show, like Lair is 459 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,400 literally a mix of everything. We got one of those, the other 460 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,520 genealogy like tests that you can do on and she's literally a 461 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,560 bit of everything. Yeah. 462 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,760 She's even got, you know, the show low with Mexican hairless 463 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,920 in there somewhere as well. Yeah. 464 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,520 But The funny thing is that Leigh, she looks like a collie 465 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,840 and she even. She does to. 466 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Some degree like a collie. So I thought maybe she was like 467 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,600 a collie Springer cross because I've had friends who've had 468 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Springer collie crosses before. I've been fantastic dogs and 469 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,360 everything about Leah was making me go, Oh yeah, she's a Springer 470 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,320 collie cross. No Springer, no Collie. 471 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,080 No collie but her like have told me that before, but her like 472 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,360 little mannerisms and everything are very like. 473 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,920 Apparently she's mostly sick. I'm going to butcher the 474 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,880 Princess and Segugio Italiano, which is like an Italian hunting 475 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,720 dog with big floppy. Ears which you can see. 476 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,080 And German Shepherd are A2 main breeds, believe it or not. 477 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,880 Yeah, she looks nothing like either. 478 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,240 That's why she came, isn't it? Because you have a lifetime of 479 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,400 German Shepherd. Yeah, I did. 480 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,680 I did. I did say this to my wife. 481 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,680 I was like, well, at least I've got a German Shepherd of some 482 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,480 flavor. But I think it's really, I 483 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,640 really like what you pointed out there about how like people have 484 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,360 individual dogs in my line of work and the amount of time to 485 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,000 get asked what's the most difficult breed to work with or 486 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,760 like, oh, but that breed is hard to work with. 487 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,200 Yeah, breed stand, standard behavior does kind of come into 488 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720 it, but every dog's in a unique individual. 489 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,280 Like you're not going to have, you'll have two German Shepherds 490 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,880 that have very similar mannerisms and you know, the 491 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,520 shepherding, herding breeds and they've got that protectiveness. 492 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,640 But Strudel is an absolute goofball. 493 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,280 People walk across the road to come and say hello to her when 494 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,280 normally when you've got a big dog like a German Shepherd used 495 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,480 to people walking away from. Yeah, I think people forget to 496 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800 look at the dog they've got in front of them rather than just 497 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520 going, Oh yeah, I've got a Pomeranian or Oh yeah, I've got 498 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,200 a Great Dane, but it should be Millie or Teddy or whatever the 499 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,760 dogs were. Like, that is your dog. 500 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,280 And there's such a a product of what you are as well now that 501 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080 you're saying how Wilson brought out elements of you. 502 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,600 But I think those elements of you were already there and you 503 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,560 just needed him to sort of push them to the. 504 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,160 Forecast a little bit and I think Noah and Bob have been 505 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,160 sent to make me interact with other people because I am 506 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,800 naturally an absolute habit who would never leave the house to 507 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,120 act with other humans ever because I don't mind humans at 508 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:35,800 all. But like, you know, and I think 509 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,720 some of that is I grew up in a map household and so I I value 510 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,520 kind of my my space, but those two are ridiculous and 511 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,520 ridiculously friendly before I have to interact with other 512 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,440 people. I'm mad about it because it is 513 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,280 pushing me to learn all these stories of these dot, you know, 514 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Bob's willing people come into the to the standard events and 515 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,680 I'm like, come on, Robert, pack it in. 516 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,600 But it's but then I kind of feel like like don't know, like 517 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,920 obviously I'm an older human being, not quite vegetable age, 518 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,960 but not that ever. But like and I don't have and I 519 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,880 thought I wanted children when I was younger. 520 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,400 Now I'm really glad that my boobs don't resemble A spaniels. 521 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,760 Ears, as I often say, and all the rest of it will. 522 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,280 Snoopy's nose. Well, relevant. 523 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,240 It's fine. It's. 524 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,760 Still, I might do an episode where I just stick eyeballs on. 525 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,680 No, I won't have my tits out on the show. 526 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,080 It's fine, but. I have to do a Patreon. 527 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,520 It's not visual, but I have to be paid only. 528 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,920 Oh, we're recording the visuals for this. 529 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,160 We are. Recording. 530 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,440 Yeah, maybe not, although SpongeBob is almost well enough 531 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,640 placed. Yeah, it's quite low. 532 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Not quite low. When people say show us your 533 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,080 tits to me, I have to live my skirt. 534 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Element of when you have building people to know them as 535 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,440 individuals and they're very interested in that. 536 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,440 And I've always felt when you had dogs, people like, like your 537 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,680 dog, they're not that interested in them. 538 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,080 Whereas I'm seeing more and more that we are building that where 539 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,920 we are so interested in people's dogs. 540 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,080 We want to get to know them. We want to know their person. 541 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,080 I mean, I love as you know, a chow me and I now try and 542 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,520 include people in them so I can because I just love dogs, but 543 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440 like getting to know those individual personalities and 544 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,160 understanding them as well. And just, it's just magic. 545 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,720 None of them are here for a long time, here for a good time and a 546 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080 short time. And dogs are so present in the 547 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,880 here and now. And it's something that we as 548 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,760 humans should really lean into more. 549 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Yeah. Do you know what this is 550 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,600 something I say a lot to my clients as well. 551 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,760 It's dogs aren't, they don't pre empt and pre plan. 552 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,040 They, they live in the moment that everything they do. 553 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,200 And that's why it's, you know, when the dog kicks off, it's 554 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,720 called being reactive because they're reacting to what's 555 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,320 happening. They're not, they're not going, 556 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Oh yeah, I'm going to go around this corner and there's going to 557 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,800 be a problem up here. It's going, oh, there's a dog in 558 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,080 my face, what do I do about it? Or there's a person in my face. 559 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,960 And you're so right. Because they're not here for as 560 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,200 long as we are. It's very easy for humans to 561 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,680 sort of view dogs with a human lifespan, if that makes sense. 562 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,440 And we forget to and, you know, stop and smell the flowers every 563 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,720 now and then. Literally. 564 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,520 Dogs really do drag us into that point where you kind of go, oh, 565 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,280 yeah, life is a bit short. Like, this is my first time 566 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,560 round. You know, I'm going to make 567 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,040 mistakes. I'm going to be weird. 568 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,800 But this little thing next to me is going to be friends with me 569 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400 regardless of what I do. So maybe I should be more like 570 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,920 them because they make me feel good. 571 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,760 And, and again, I see it when I've been working with clients 572 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,360 over weeks, months at a time. And I can see their 573 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,680 personalities changing as well as the dogs improving. 574 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600 And it's because they get more confident. 575 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,200 They want to go out more with their dogs. 576 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,360 They want to do more things. And it's just a really nice, you 577 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,800 know, there's, we talk about these vicious cycles of things. 578 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,160 It's like a happy cycle of things. 579 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040 The dog gets better, so they get better and they start opening 580 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,440 up. And it's just a really, really 581 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,680 nice way to see, you know, we've had dogs for 10,000 and there's 582 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,960 a reason they've been around for that long, because they do. 583 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Yeah, there's a reason they've continued to put up with us. 584 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680 Yeah, exactly. Let's face it, to join us. 585 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800 Well, unless it's Noah, because she often tries to escape the 586 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,960 living of with me, but you know. Yeah, I'll just say to the all 587 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,000 three listers, Noah is the best escape artist for a blind dog 588 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,280 I've ever seen. And a child house as well. 589 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Not an athletic breed. No, there's some of the like the 590 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,600 pictures that you sent me where she's got into things like how 591 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,840 she's she's compared, but the. Intelligence as well I had to 592 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,760 call drone to home a few months ago didn't I told you about this 593 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,160 she escaped from the garden that is already my I add Noah so 594 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,600 we've been around looked for every little bit you'd think you 595 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,680 would have to with a blind dog but apparently you do and she'd 596 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,960 still get out and two two 2 1/2 hours of no Noah so I'm ringing 597 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,520 drowned home in tear like just horrendous friends have given 598 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600 over some friends drove from Hartfordshire. 599 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,120 We'll come and help you find. I don't worry walking up and 600 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,080 down go around because I live in a city so like really worried 601 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 because she's blind and if people trying to approach her 602 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,280 she's a chow so she will panic she will run. 603 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Just at my wit's end. That little shit was sat in a 604 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,320 booth 10 meters from home. Joy sounds of me and said 605 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,320 friends looking for her and she only actually came out because I 606 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,240 had a friend after umpteenth time of walking up there and 607 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,040 said do you reckon if we get Bob out she'd come and the I said 608 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200 the word Bob out she came. Problem is, I can believe every 609 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,200 single word of that. She's just I just. 610 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,840 Yeah, she's she's quite some. She's needs to be met to be 611 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120 understood because she's like nothing else. 612 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600 I've ever everybody when you say I have a blind dog and I say 613 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,960 don't say she doesn't need you to say that. 614 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,160 She's an actor. I watched her the other day in 615 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,880 the garden. I meant to send you the video of 616 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,960 this. Barb had run up to the garden to 617 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,160 escape her and she's half up. And you know how cats stop and 618 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840 they do the little. She did that and then she held 619 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,800 vision and he was staring after. She's actually looking, looking 620 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,120 where he is. She's got eyes. 621 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,240 I don't think they were in and the vet swiveling to where he 622 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240 was. She's stood there literally 623 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,080 focused on where he with ears, whatever magic eyes I think she 624 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160 must have. And she's literally doing that 625 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,680 cat thing and she starts to slowly dip her bottom as if she 626 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800 is going to sit down but she's not going right down. 627 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,360 And the minute he goes to make a move before he even moves she's 628 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,600 gone. She is insane and a menace. 629 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,960 She is a menace, but she's a gorgeous menace. 630 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,720 Although having said that, Bob's had his fair few moments that 631 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,880 very well, it's viral now, isn't it, that. 632 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,480 Him in the pot, he's an idiot. Absolutely. 633 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,120 He just defies the logic dog. I mean the attitude in that 634 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,640 video was hilarious because he clearly gave Bush. 635 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,440 It's what I thought that little sawn as he comes down, but he 636 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,800 was at it again last last weekend the week before did the 637 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,360 little stage. I walk for him and someone had 638 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,680 got him a little crown on an elastic and I thought I'll stick 639 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,080 it on for a laugh. But it'll be off in seconds 640 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,840 because as a dog trainer, you would know not many dogs are 641 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,960 going to let you stick in a laugh stick Two hours. 642 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Still had it on his head right the whole walk, the whole walk 643 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,520 in his ground wasn't even fussed. 644 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Just wondering and got my birthday crown on. 645 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Here I go not. Right. 646 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,680 I think Bob is probably the least chow chow you can get and 647 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280 probably has the fewest survival instincts. 648 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Most normal ducks, any normal dog, maybe about 5 minutes. 649 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640 OK, I'm done with this. And I'm done with yeah, two 650 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,880 hours, yeah, two hours with a crown on just. 651 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,960 He's almost human. So I often think with him he is 652 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,280 almost human in how he behaves just. 653 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,360 Yeah, we try. We're trying not to 654 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,600 anthropomorphize our dogs. Some dogs. 655 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,640 No, exactly. Yeah, they kind of just, they 656 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,240 just do it automatically for us. We don't. 657 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,160 Have to do just. Do right, I think that's a good 658 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160 place to wrap up the first episode, I think. 659 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,320 Do you here. Thank you for telling us that 660 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,240 story about Wilson. There. 661 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,120 Well, no. We've talked a lot about me. 662 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000 We need to hear more about your two next time as well. 663 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,120 Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah. 664 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,400 I mean, mine aren't to that rebellious. 665 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,639 I mean, 1 is, like I said, Lair is just about to turn 10 and 666 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,920 she's definitely slotting into that sort of like grumpy old 667 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,920 lady, sort of like role. Love that. 668 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,920 Yeah. She's she's very quiet. 669 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,360 To be honest, I forget she's there half the time because she 670 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600 just wrote girls. The other one, on the other 671 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,800 hand, in almost 8 months or what should be 8 months by the time 672 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,800 this episode comes out. Yeah, she's like a, you know, 673 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,719 the Tasmanian devil, the old cartoon. 674 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,280 So you can see in her eyes that there's, yeah, she's she's a 675 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,239 playful girl. And The thing is with with 676 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,199 Shepherd, I don't know if there's any Shepherd owners 677 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,679 listening, but for the first few months, you know, to a year and 678 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,000 a half ish of their lives, you kind of need to be careful with 679 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,120 because obviously the growth plates and hip displays, you've 680 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,960 been a big thing for the breed and stuff like that. 681 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,480 Someone needs to tell Strudel that because she gives me a 682 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,760 heart attack every time she decides to throw herself full 683 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,240 speed off the sofa. We've got like AU shaped sofa 684 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,280 and the day that she first crossed the gap between the sort 685 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,160 of like 2 shades long bits of the sofa, you could see it in 686 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,120 her eyes and she's like I can do this, can do. 687 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,800 This. Yeah, just do it one more time. 688 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,720 And now it's everyday constantly. 689 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,200 Like literally just before we came onto this video call, she 690 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,240 was pinning my wife down by a collar bones to the sofa just to 691 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:30,840 lick her face just because she could. 692 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960 And she dived from the other side of the sofa to go. 693 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,760 She does have like look in her eye, even when just look at the 694 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,440 cat. It's only got to be a second. 695 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Something's going down. Like anyone who knows like sort 696 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,840 of stuff about dog body language, the whale, I've sort 697 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,200 of like looking out the corner of the eye. 698 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,400 Normally for a dog that means back off, give me a bit of space 699 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,960 or you being a bit much for Strudel. 700 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,000 It's kind of like where can I go next? 701 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,520 And she'll just just look at she'll you can see a scanning 702 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680 around the room with her eyes and then in a flash he's gone, 703 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,200 but absolutely gone. We don't have to do anything. 704 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,480 We could just be sat watching TV. 705 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,000 It's quiet. She just gone because this brown 706 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,960 blur in the corner. I just love it when you put up 707 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,440 the photos and stuff, you just can see the personality. 708 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,520 They're just the goofing like the that proper because people 709 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,880 do view German shepherds. She's like scared but I've only 710 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,240 ever known big come across. She's not. 711 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,040 Terrified, but they are goofy. Dull. 712 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Yeah. Oh God. 713 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,680 Fall into their personality. I'm secretly laughing here 714 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,960 because you can't see this. Well, I don't know if I can show 715 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,240 you we're doing so there's one cat there. 716 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,600 Can you see her? And then the other ones that 717 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,920 they never come on my desk. Both the cats are in here while 718 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080 we're doing a dog. The like guys, you're talking 719 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,920 far too much about dogs we need to get. 720 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,600 I've got 2 cats as well and if I I'm in the spare room and the 721 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,960 minute recording this, if I open the spare and door, they'd be 722 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,520 all over the recording equipment. 723 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,720 They'd cancel things on the laptop. 724 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,360 They'd just be doing all sorts of mystery. 725 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,880 Oh, cats aren't. I didn't understand that. 726 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,480 No no, this one particular here cat is to not like action and 727 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,520 all the rest of it. I get annoyed with her because 728 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,000 she demands my attention and I don't want it. 729 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,440 They are. Who'd have them? 730 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,000 Who'd have cats? No. 731 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,200 Who would right? Right. 732 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,520 Yeah. I think that's a really nice 733 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520 place to wrap up there. Thank you so much for your time, 734 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,880 Bob. It's been lovely speaking to 735 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,400 you. I think again, all three 736 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,240 listeners, your mission, if you choose to accept it, is send 737 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:35,880 U.S. star Wars dogs Absolutely. And we'll we'll host to some. 738 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,560 And also if you've got any voice notes, emails, what's our e-mail 739 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,880 address gone. You've got this one. 740 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,040 Yeah. Oh, hang on. 741 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200 You sent it to me earlier and I've got to remember it. 742 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,280 Hang on. It's I believe. 743 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,360 Yeah, it's I believe in dog pod. I think it's Yeah, that was I 744 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,000 believe in dog pod. I believe in car cast@gmail.com 745 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,640 Cast, Yeah. So, yeah, so if you want to send 746 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,120 over your Star Wars pictures of your dogs, voice notes, funny 747 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,080 anecdotes about your dogs, even if it's hat what got you into 748 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200 dogs as well, I think we spoke about that quite a lot today. 749 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,640 So it'd be quite an. Interesting to share. 750 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,680 How people got involved with dogs. 751 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,320 So if you send that to I believe in dog cast dot at gmail.com. 752 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,840 And if you're down South, I believe in dog cast at Gmail 753 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,320 dot. I I believe in dog cast at Gmail 754 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,560 dot. Oh, look at you with your 755 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,480 downside. My dad's from down South, no 756 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,680 one's from Manchester. That's. 757 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,600 Fantastic. A mixture of the two, but yeah, 758 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,840 I do. So yeah, so if you want to send 759 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,120 over your Star Wars Dogs voice notes, emails, stories about how 760 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560 you've got into dogs in the 1st place, we'd love to read it out. 761 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360 And we'll host any pictures and things that we see. 762 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,080 Any voice notes. Even if you've got dog training 763 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,640 questions for me, please bombard me with them. 764 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,720 I'm more than happy to answer a few on that on that. 765 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,600 And if you've got any picture requests for bum, any weird 766 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,760 unusual breeds that we've might be a bit of a challenge, throw 767 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,760 you under the bus with that one. But yeah. 768 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,200 Pictures you've drawn of dogs and I will. 769 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,280 Yes, I'd love that, even if you've got kids who've drawn 770 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,720 pictures. We want to see dogs. 771 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,560 We want to see all your dog artwork, hear your dog stories. 772 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,440 Please do send it into ibelievedogcast@gmail.com. 773 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,400 It's like like come on inside. That's 'cause you. 774 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,320 This guy. A bit of the e-mail address. 775 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,600 I believe in cast, you said. I believe dog cast. 776 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,120 I don't even know the name of my own show. 777 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,320 That's that's the. I believe in dog. 778 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,080 I bunch top of a sign, but they're written. 779 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,240 On Yeah, I need to. I will do that. 780 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,560 I will paint one that says here's the phone to the sign. 781 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,920 No, no, yes. And if people have future guests 782 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,000 they'd like to have on here, they should send in suggestions 783 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,320 too. Yes, please do tag people, 784 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,320 bombard them with messages, say get on this podcast is going to 785 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040 be the best thing ever. Things are just. 786 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,600 Little. Yeah, excellent. 787 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,160 But anyway, I've been Simon Perry Moreno. 788 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,440 And I've been Bon Allen. Accidental Partridge. 789 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,000 Norfolk I love Partridge of pierced people on a spy. 790 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,400 My favorite quote in the whole world ever is frankly my dear. 791 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680 I don't riverdance which is a part. 792 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,000 And on that, we'll see you next time. 793 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,040 I'm. Just leave this in. 794 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,600 You probably should Accidental Partridge at the end. 795 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,840 I'm terrible. Accidental Partridge. 796 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,840 No, please keep them in. Please keep them in.