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Hello and welcome to I believe 
in dog. 

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Is it dogs or dogs? 
I've done it again. 

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Amna. 
Is it plural? 

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Well, I was about to 
congratulate you then on the 

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fact you got it. 
Then you went hang on, wait, is 

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it dogs? 
Dogs, dogs. 

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It's literally right there at 
the top of my screen. 

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It's I believe in Dog Jesus. 
I need a new host. 

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Let's start the show. 
Hello and welcome to I Believe 

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in Dog. 
My name is Simon. 

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And I'm born. 
And this is the show that will 

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we talk everything dogs. 
It'll make you laugh, cry, 

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invest stocks and tissues and 
then figure out that your dog is

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far more absorbent. 
We made it to episode 2. 

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We survived. 
Almost. 

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And after spending the entirety 
of the last episode talking to 

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our three listeners, we can 
proudly say we had more than 

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three. 
Yeah, I mean that we had 4 but. 

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I'll take it. 
It's still an improvement. 

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So all four of our listeners 
from episode 1, we are so 

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grateful. 
Yeah, and also to the people who

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did listen, thank you so much 
for your Star Wars dog esque. 

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Thing they were great. 
Oh my God, some of the the 

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there's something about a child 
dressed as a Jedi that just 

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works. 
They were good. 

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Yeah, they were very, very good.
I mean, obviously there was. 

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People went out of their way to 
kind of, you know, really show 

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us a love of Star Wars there. 
And then there's me, just 

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sticking masks on Bob and 
terrifying everyone and a half 

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dodgy picture of Wilson from 
many years ago actually dressed 

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as Chewbacca 0I. 
Took these away. 

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I I just called my dog Leah that
that's enough. 

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Just the name of the Star Wars 
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I might have to call my next 
dog. 

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Actually, that's made me realise
Bob's sister is actually. 

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No it's not. 
That's a lie because the Ewok is

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wicket and she's called cricket,
but it rhymes. 

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It's close enough. 
It's in a couple of letters. 

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I don't drink coffee, but I 
might need one I. 

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Think you might need something 
harder than coffee after this 

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Anyway, Yeah, thank you so much 
for your submissions and your 

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emails as well. 
We've got a couple of emails. 

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Yes, we did. 
We had mags with Atticus, and 

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Atticus does look like an Ewok. 
He's so cute. 

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Little fairy little. 
Cute. 

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Yeah, and thank you for your 
lovely words and your e-mail as 

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well, Mags. 
I'm just going to read something

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out here which really resonates 
with me because it was the topic

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about talking about dogs living 
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And so Mags writes this about 
Atticus. 

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One of the things we love most 
about it was how he lives 

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entirely in the moment and 
brings you right there with him.

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He recently took him. 
Sorry. 

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We recently took him to Bamba 
Beach. 

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Have I pronounced that right? 
Bamba. 

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Bamba Beach in the northeast. 
And he was the happiest we've 

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ever seen him. 
Just pure joy, soaking up a 

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beautiful place with his 
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home. 
He's just a content. 

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Just as content pottering 
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wandering happily, and simply 
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It really does feel like there's
so much we can learn from our 

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dogs about appreciating those 
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throughout each day. 
I absolutely love that message. 

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And that's what. 
It's about, isn't it with dogs, 

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really. 
They teach us so much. 

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Like. 
I do canine behavior, so I 

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should be teaching them things, 
and I actually I probably 

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learned more from dogs than I do
actually teaching them. 

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They school you daily. 
Yes they do. 

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And you know what it's, it's 
understanding that teaching as 

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well, because like part of the 
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lot to work with people, You, 
you've done it with me as well 

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that you've got in touch to sort
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with Noah at that time. 
And there's so much lost in 

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translation. 
I think there's so much about 

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dogs that we just don't realize 
that because The thing is, dogs 

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don't lie. 
They wear their hearts on their 

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sleeves. 
If they like something, they 

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like something, they don't like 
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And I think as humans, we could 
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being like that a bit more. 
I think we put up a facade a lot

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of the time and. 
Sorry, I lost my Internet there.

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OK and for listeners who are 
watching on the video version of

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this podcast, you might be 
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changed clothes. 
We had a couple of technical 

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difficulties after about the 1st
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Was it the second? 
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on a different day. 
Although Bond has a different 

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theory, I. 
Think all lies. 

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We both built something down our
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of us our tits are so big they 
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change our jumper. 
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Yeah, that I'd, I'd rather blame
technology. 

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Right. 
Where were we? 

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Oh, yes. 
So dogs wearing the hearts on 

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the sleeves and how we can learn
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I think you were before. 
Before it crashed. 

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In the moment, don't they 
Nothing like promotions. 

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I believe some people say, oh, 
don't, but you shouldn't report.

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Oh, I can't, please. 
Yeah, you do that. 

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But anthropomorphism, do you 
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Is because that lip is numb. 
I can't actually say that word 

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now, damn it. 
I'm going to sound even less 

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intelligent than I did before 
that word. 

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People do that to your dogs. 
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from the intelligence of dogs 
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It's just much live in the here 
and now and something that we 

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need to do so much more. 
I think you're absolutely right.

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And and The thing is, it's not, 
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And like dogs have their own 
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states. 
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that there's a lot lost in 
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things where others assume, you 
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a reactive dog that barks or the
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you as the human are getting 
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you're like, oh, everyone's 
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my dog bark. 
Your dog does not care. 

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It really does not care about 
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emotional response is because 
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dog's approaching or it's really
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meet that other dog. 
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Some people will interpret a dog
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sometimes they're just high on 
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world, aren't they? 
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people struggle with reactivity 
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So I don't know what that is. 
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you said, it's over excitement 
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really want to go and see what 
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And you know, 9 times out of 10 
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know, it's never a bad thing 
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under control. 
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and your dog is so over excited 
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and see that thing, it seems 
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but it's just because it wants 
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hello to that dog. 
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We were also talking about 
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We got another lovely e-mail. 
We did from the lovely Susan 

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over in Texas and I love Susan. 
Susan is an absolute stalker of 

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young Robert out now. 
She actually. 

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Robert is bombs by the. 
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Oh yeah. 
Bob. 

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Yeah, Bob. 
My job. 

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I call him Robert when he's 
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feeling fancy. 
He sent a lovely e-mail. 

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I started loving dogs after my 
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Fantastic. 
It's my ex-husband. 

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It took me years to let him get 
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that. 
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reason why my wife swiped OK for
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first made. 
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I like that, you know. 
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You know that my dating app 
profile picture is me and Wilson

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re enacting ET. 
I've photoshopped him into the 

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basket and my face and tickets 
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If you don't get any matches, 
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Back to Susan's lovely e-mail. 
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It was Rottweilers. 
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I love Rottweilers. 
Those heads. 

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I love a big head. 
That sounds sorry. 

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Yes, her. 
One day I'll grow up. 

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I won't. 
That's a lie, Norm. 

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Which is an even better name. 
Robert. 

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That's incredible. 
So you could yell that name out 

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of the door after. 
Cheers. 

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Oh, I love that, Norm. 
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Rotties. 
Lovely one chocolate lab and our

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grouchy old lady Denarla. 
Fluffy Princess. 

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I'm glad you're reading this 
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We're glad I can't even say that
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I'm not even going to attempt to
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I will say Susan is a lovely 
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stalking of Roberto. 
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saw Smoky Harley Rottweiler, how
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So started searching for a 
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We are I'm Poppy. 
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and I will send her your 
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and and Nada are amazing. 
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We moved to Texas for Nada to 
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senior home, which it's so full.
You get you get to see them out 

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onto the lake that's in front of
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Like watch the dogs just sat on 
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It's beautiful. 
It's all she sees. 

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We live on a lake. 
Sorry I got no is hers to patrol

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and keep safe so I think that's 
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What a way to live. 
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But like, if I had, if I had my 
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in the middle of nowhere, a 
couple of dogs, maybe a little 

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small, holding with some 
animals, and just living out my 

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hermit life in the middle of 
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This was how we bonded, wasn't 
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Because that is actually my 
everyone who knows me will be 

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sitting there going. 
But that's Bond's dream, what 

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you're talking about, Simon. 
So although I've decided there 

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is an animal that I want on 
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before I want sheep, but I found
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actually an endangered breed. 
It's a British breed and they 

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need more people to have them. 
And they are very much a pet 

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sheep to be adding that to the 
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Baby doll sheep. 
I remember going off on a 

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complete tangent away from dogs 
and it's going so sheep related.

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I remember I went to like a farm
show and I can't remember the 

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name of the guy, so I won't try 
and make it up, but he basically

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had a dancing sheep show. 
And it was like this big lorry 

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that you like open the side of 
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whole like stage inside the 
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And he had like one of different
breeds of sheep and like it 

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would explain, you know, like 
why they're endangered, what 

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they were specifically bred for.
And it was just like get kids. 

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And yeah, people who didn't know
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actually, because you just drive
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see a sheep and you just go, oh,
yeah, it's a, you know, black 

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and white sheep. 
Cool. 

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But like, he was going into the 
different breeds and the 

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different like, wool textures 
even like did a demonstration on

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how to like, share them without 
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that. 
It was you could, you know, like

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beekeepers. 
You could tell this person 

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really, really loved these 
animals. 

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And like even though it was kind
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format, it was for the benefit 
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Different sheep. 
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Anyway, back to dogs. 
That that was sheep for a minute

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Sheep dogs. 

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woof this weekend. 
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I can't make it this year 

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unfortunately but I will try and
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I went last year and for those 
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wolf or don't know about Good 
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thing to like Glastonbury for 
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I'm like this, this is it for 
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the whole thing. 
The activities they have. 

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I mean, as we know, Robert spent
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Fido's Lido, which is yeah, 
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several times. 
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this year on the good with 
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little furry self. 
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obviously architecture, which is
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competition, which is judged by 
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entry this year for that. 
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I'm a huge Lego nerd if people 
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This is why I think you should 
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weekend because Lego are there 
and they've done specific things

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about dogs. 
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There's Jelly Cat Hotel, there's
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drink to get through it of 
people. 

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It's not me honest Fortnum and 
Mason picnic hairy. 

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You've got the DHL fastest dog 
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incredible stands this year. 
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because and it's quite actually 
quite for not that's completely 

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the wrong word. 
Scrap that. 

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Get that out. 
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because as you know, rescue is a
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preservation of of breeds and go
today that the whole saver poor 

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mount year. 
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Goodworth is rescue dog, which I
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ready for the parade really to 
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them are going this year that if
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is about by the end of this 
weekend, I've done something 

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very wrong. 
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I'm really excited to celebrate 
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So yes, that's why we. 
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And and just piggybacking off 
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like you can't understand the 
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until you go. 
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of like my job is I've got to do
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sort of like safeguarding and 
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and all this. 
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event I've been to recently that
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Like there's water stations 
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and do things like that. 
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Imagine there's, you know, bark 
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interior designed for dogs. 
There's clothing for dogs and 

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people. 
It's free of Hound. 

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We forgot about Ministry of 
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Just so there's a DJ that's oh, 
there's just so. 

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And obviously there's 
celebrities and. 

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There is, yes. 
Where? 

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It's just search. 
Experience gets shy. 

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But yeah, Bon has a stall there 
where you'd be soiling all your 

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bits and pieces. 
Are both Bob and Noah going with

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you? 
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your bits. 
I mean extra service. 

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I do not to tell people about. 
That's for the Patreon. 

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Listeners, listeners. 
Yeah, Patreon listeners. 

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Tell me, did he say selling or 
soiling? 

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Because I think he said soiling.
Freud's Bob and Neville. 

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Transfer this when I'm editing 
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Soiling. 
I want a screenshot. 

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I want that. 
That's dying not to tell anyone 

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about that yes we'll of course 
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my stand last year but this year
I have some incredible as with 

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means that anyone who's been to 
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Boo Boo and Marley the other two
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be with us. 
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have a lot of fun and we're very
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on the stand this year. 
I'm excited. 

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I. 
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there's this big argument of 
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or like, you know, get a breed 
because you know, you kind of 

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can expect what you know what 
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breed, so I know roughly what 
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but obviously layers a rescue 
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balance of both. 
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Yeah, I, we won't because I've 
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because I needed a dog that 
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Noah who was going to be 
euthanized. 

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I think what people need to 
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isn't down to breeding itself. 
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better regulation of breeding, 
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moment. 
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rescue as we know from what 
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And that was in that I've very 
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last year campaigning for and 
that conversation. 

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Now moving forward, what we 
don't need in all of that and a 

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bit of the conversation that 
gets missed and in my role as 

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part of the Chinese Chow Club 
for the UK is something I bought

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the tears with is the Gen. 
public actually need to educate 

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themselves better on what to do 
when going to buy a dog. 

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We're still very much impulse 
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we go with the most visible 
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charity world, the good ones. 
You won't find them on social 

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media. 
They are pub breed clubs. 

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They have to avoid vote of 
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They all have returned to 
breeder policies. 

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There are see little things and 
I sorry I go on about it. 

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Oh no, no, it's really. 
Important information, such 

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important thing. 
It's Bob's breeder. 

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I mean, I have a relationship 
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his dad and his breeder, a 
relationship with them and his 

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breeder actually one of the dogs
and the litter and was changing 

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the family circumstances and at 
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said, Yep, take us straight 
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There is none of this note in 
that sense. 

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So need to start pushing for and
the general public can be a big 

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part of that because if when you
go to look at a dog, you say can

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I see mum, can I see dad? 
What is their provenance? 

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What is their history will 
return to breed a policy because

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they don't end up in rescue. 
And this is where, you know, 

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there's that argument because 
there are breeds and she kind of

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one of those we're having less 
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So there is a danger, you know, 
the genetic diversity as well 

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can become an issue. 
So it is important that they are

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still bred. 
Also important that you go to a 

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breeder who says no to you on 
some things. 

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Because where we're seeing a lot
more coming in to rescue and 

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we're seeing that with chows. 
It's where they're placed in 

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homes that probably aren't 
suitable or people are being 

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given 2 puppies from the same 
litter, which is not something 

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we want to be seeing. 
Or a few people who asked for a 

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boy chow puppy. 
It was their first, one of them,

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their first dog. 
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laugh when I. 
Say dog. 

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Ended up with was a girl chow, 
which you know, I say I love 

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Noah to pieces, but if I had had
Noah first, I'd never have 

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another chow. 
Boys are easier. 

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They they want to please you, 
they love you. 

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Girl chows don't give a shit 
what you think stubbornness, but

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they also have a high level of 
wilfulness and they can be 

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challenging that I adore. 
Don't don't take that the wrong 

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way, but not that the general 
public can be doing to kind of 

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help push towards better ethics 
within breeding. 

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Because if you're demanding 
better breeders, you're not just

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and some that are on things like
pets for homes. 

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That's not a measure of whether 
or not they are. 

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It's things like have I seen mum
and Dad C registered because we 

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get a lot of people saying, oh, 
my dog is DWKC registered and 

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I'm like, that's not, you know, 
that's a Markov. 

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That's a dog that actually 
doesn't fit the breed standard 

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under the Kennel Club and the 
breed standards there are for a 

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reason. 
We see it a lot in chows. 

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Obviously colours that aren't 
the standard colours that are 

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being bred public don't 
understand the that because they

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just see a pretty dog, you know,
to Merle's people think it's 

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amazing. 
Yeah, I was going to piggyback 

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on this, like, you really hit 
the nail on the head with like 

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people by popular breeds at the 
time as well. 

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Like, you know, I'm sure when 
101 Dalmatians came out 

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originally, like there was a 
spike in people getting 

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Dalmatians without knowing a 
single thing about the Dalmatian

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breed. 
Or, you know, like Lassie, the 

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amount of rough collies that 
would have appeared because 

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Lassie was this amazing collie 
and never thought, Oh yeah, I 

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can do that. 
And you still see it today. 

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You know, there's a lot of like 
dog trainers and dog 

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professionals out there who've 
got like a Malinois and fine. 

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Yeah, that person is more than 
qualified to deal with a great 

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dog, will do everything you want
it to do if you know how to 

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handle it and you can do it 
right. 

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And if you're a trainer who can 
dedicate that much time to it. 

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Joe Bloggs, who works 8 1/2 
hours in an office and decides 

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to get a Malinois and leave at 
home all day, then comes home 

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and wonders why the house is 
absolutely trashed. 

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It's because that dog needs so 
much more than just a general 

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companion. 
You know, it's, it's it's a tool

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more than a dog. 
And people, people go, oh, well,

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they trained their dog really 
well, so I'll get a Malinois and

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that means my dog will be really
good. 

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And they're just not. 
Doing the research, they're not 

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doing the training for it. 
And like, you know, like you're 

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saying, there's a lot of dogs 
coming out now with genetic 

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defects because they're being 
bred for a certain look or. 

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Human greed and selfishness to 
me because Noah's back story is 

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the breeder was trying to breed 
a lilac Merle. 

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Breeders that are breeding these
fashion colours, they're not 

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doing the genetic testing to at 
least make sure they're doing it

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safely. 
There isn't A and just because. 

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Visually it's got, it's got the 
one the desired aspects they're 

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missing out on all the genetic 
defects that could be coming 

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along with, you know, heart 
conditions. 

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Care publicly The downside? 
How many die before they're a 

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year old? 
And that's why we'll always talk

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about Noah. 
She has no eyes. 

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She was born with eyes, but they
she was blind, they were borned.

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And she was less than 18 months 
old. 

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She had to have both eyes 
removed and to have some leg 

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surgery as well. 
And we don't know what her 

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lifespan will be because there 
is malformation in the compass 

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skull and she's a menace and 
she's living a full life. 

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And I love that for her, but 
shouldn't be having that happen 

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just because humans like the 
colour of a dog. 

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You wouldn't if you, if I said 
to you, you could have, let's 

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say you wanted to have children,
you can have these children and 

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they have this really rare hair 
colour. 

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But if you have them that way, 
they might be born with, with 

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deformities, they might be 
blind, they might they might die

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young, they might not cope in 
this world. 

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We wouldn't do it. 
And dogs don't have a voice to 

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say, please don't do this to me.
So, and I've always people 

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who've met me at shows will know
if you've got a dog that is a 

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non standard colour, often 
you've probably been duped by 

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the breeder because they are 
unscrupulous because it's about 

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money to them. 
It's not about the love of a 

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breed. 
It at the end of the day when 

451
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,760
people say they love chows and 
then they talk about their breed

452
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,720
and you know, genetically 
testing to make sure that there 

453
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,680
isn't, you're not breed double 
male gene to a double male gene 

454
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,320
like that. 
Because if you are doing that, 

455
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,960
then at least you're trying to 
do it safely. 

456
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,480
But I know people who have these
dogs because I do think that 

457
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800
more often than not, there are 
some people that are an 

458
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,120
exception to the rule and get 
them on purpose to build a big 

459
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,960
social media following. 
And I think that's something 

460
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,320
that is not OK. 
But in general terms, as humans,

461
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,360
we need to do better by dogs by 
saying that's full, but it's 

462
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,080
not. 
I want a dog that is here 

463
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,960
because it's it's healthy and 
that's the important thing. 

464
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,360
And I again, like you, say the 
right home with the Malinois. 

465
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,000
I love Marley and Boo Boo come 
to shows with us, as well as Bob

466
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,680
and Noah because you've met Bob 
and Noah and Boo Boo very much 

467
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,920
your typical chows and they 
necessarily want you to touch 

468
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,360
them. 
So people will come to the stand

469
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,920
and see Marley and Boo Boo sat 
out the front and go Oh my God. 

470
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,400
And we say they want you to. 
But if you go in there, there 

471
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960
are two that are broken and they
you pet them. 

472
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,360
And it's important because. 
The Lust and found box at the 

473
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:29,040
back of your store. 
Used to you have that 

474
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,160
conversation and be honest and 
say yes chows look like a teddy 

475
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,640
bear that came to life but 
that's who they are. 

476
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,960
Like I'm the huge version. 
I've got a lovely round face and

477
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,320
look like I'm really friendly. 
I'm an asshole and I hate people

478
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:48,960
jealously. 
And that's The thing is I, I 

479
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,640
can't agree with you more on 
this. 

480
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,280
And it's like with when people 
don't understand what they've 

481
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,120
got in front of them, whether 
it's, you know, they've just 

482
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,440
bought a curly haired Frenchie 
or something like that. 

483
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,880
You know, they've gone for 
whatever's trendy and they've 

484
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,480
not done the research, then 
they're stuck with this dog that

485
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,440
they don't know what to do. 
It's they're having loads of 

486
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,760
issues. 
You know, it's part of the 

487
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,440
reason why I get called to a lot
of cases is because they just 

488
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,360
don't know what they're doing 
because they've just gone for 

489
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,760
the dog that looks pretty. 
And then, you know, 

490
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,720
unfortunately, a lot of these 
dogs that don't get the help 

491
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,600
that they need end up in 
rescues. 

492
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,480
And it's why rescues are getting
so overwhelmed. 

493
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,080
That's because people are buying
these dogs. 

494
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,440
They're not doing the research. 
They're not understanding what 

495
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080
they need to, you know, dogs are
a huge, regardless of the breed,

496
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,880
they're a huge responsibility 
for at least, you know, like 

497
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,480
10-15 years of your life. 
You have to give everything to 

498
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,640
this dog because it needs you to
do things. 

499
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560
And if you can't give it what it
needs, you have to give it up. 

500
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,440
And then when you give it up, it
fills up the rescue centres. 

501
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,560
And then the rescue centres are 
getting overwhelmed because 

502
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,200
there's more and more people 
making daft decisions. 

503
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,760
If I'm being honest and just 
buying a dog for the sake of 

504
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,720
getting a dog without doing the 
research, the rescues are 

505
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,680
overwhelmed and then know what's
going rescuing those dogs 

506
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,000
because they, you know, they'll 
see an Excel bully or obviously 

507
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000
not now, but you know, they'll 
see like a Staffie or a Malinois

508
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,400
or a German Shepherd or a 
Rottweiler and you go, Oh no, I 

509
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,720
don't want that. 
I want, you know, I want a 

510
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,360
puppy. 
The amount of people that go to 

511
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:06,240
rescues expecting there to be 
just like a buffet of puppies 

512
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,880
that they can just pick up and 
it's not the case. 

513
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,280
You know, there's senior dogs 
that need rescuing and having a 

514
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,160
home or, you know, there's dogs 
that through no fault of their 

515
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,560
own, like you were saying 
before, you know, they had to 

516
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,040
give it back to the breeder 
because the life circumstances 

517
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,320
have changed. 
And that's absolutely fine, but 

518
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000
they need the chance as well. 
You know, that dog's not in the 

519
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,160
rescue center because of it's 
done anything wrong. 

520
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,280
It's in the rescue center 
because it's circumstances have 

521
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,440
changed, but because people 
won't give it the chance and 

522
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,040
they much rather go, Oh yeah, 
no, forget that. 

523
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,440
I'll just go get a puppy 
instead. 

524
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,960
And then these poor dogs are 
just spending the rest of their 

525
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,320
lives and rescues just waiting 
for someone to pick them. 

526
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,720
And there's nothing wrong with 
these dogs. 

527
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Actually, I think, yeah, I just 
think we need to start saying 

528
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,760
it's not necessarily down to 
breed. 

529
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320
There has to be a middle ground 
because breeding is essential. 

530
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,680
There are some breeds where we 
could do with a couple of years 

531
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,320
of not breeding them, but there 
are breeds that will need that. 

532
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,360
And it's not about breeding 
itself. 

533
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,480
It's about the general public 
educating themselves, becoming, 

534
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,240
you know, saying this is what I 
need and this is what, Because 

535
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,920
also I've always said this, 
there are circumstances under 

536
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,640
which you can't rescue. 
I foster human children for 17 

537
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,480
years, give them back. 
You can't foster a dog that 

538
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,520
stays after a day. 
But we could never, we could 

539
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,480
never have rescue dogs. 
We had to have dogs that were 

540
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,480
from a breeder that we knew and 
got to know that we knew both 

541
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120
mum and dad. 
We had everything, you know, a 

542
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,760
report on behaviour and 
everything else because that was

543
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,000
an important part. 
And and there will be people for

544
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,200
whom that is an essential thing 
for them and we shouldn't be 

545
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,920
making them feel bad for that at
the end of the day. 

546
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,520
No. 
And you can go the other way as 

547
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,200
well. 
Like I've got a client who's 

548
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,360
absolutely fantastic. 
She's got an Irish wolfhound 

549
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,040
puppy. 
I think it's just over four 

550
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280
months old now. 
And even before she got the 

551
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,960
puppy, she contacted me and she 
was like, I know it's a large 

552
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,080
breed. 
Like she's had dogs all the 

553
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,280
life. 
Like she's a very well 

554
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680
experienced dog owner and she's 
had great dogs all the way 

555
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,200
through, but it's like it's a 
giant breed that she's never had

556
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,960
before. 
She knows they've got their own 

557
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600
quirks and sort of like 
behavioral quirks and you know, 

558
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,120
physiological quirks and things 
like that. 

559
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,960
And she contacted me it good 
month or two before she even got

560
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,400
the puppy just to make sure she 
was set up and ready to go. 

561
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,000
And she, she's managed to hit 
the ground running and now she's

562
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,800
got this four month old puppy 
that is absolutely fantastic, 

563
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520
huge, but absolutely fantastic. 
And it's because she's done her 

564
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,640
due diligence and, you know, put
the research in first. 

565
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600
And she, you know, she embraced 
that, you know, we're not all 

566
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,920
perfect. 
Even me as a canine 

567
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920
professional, like I'm not 
perfect with every single breed.

568
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,320
You know, I'm not going to be 
able to know how to handle every

569
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,080
single thing. 
I handle the dog that's in front

570
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,160
of me depending on the situation
and if even if I'm having to do 

571
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,560
my own research as well to make 
sure I'm getting it right. 

572
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,920
Of course, people who are buying
these puppies need to do their 

573
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,320
research because if I'm having 
to do the work, you definitely 

574
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,480
need to do the work. 
Well, we don't go into having 

575
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,440
children and just like how many 
books do people read before they

576
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,160
come along? 
How much do they worry about all

577
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,320
of that? 
And the great thing is a lovely 

578
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,680
story. 
Again, child related. 

579
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Sorry, that is my breed. 
But we had a family who came to,

580
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,240
I think it was one of Wilson's 
fine UPS or it was maybe Noah's 

581
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,000
first birthday. 
And they came because they'd 

582
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,640
love Chows for years and to get 
one, but they wanted to learn 

583
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
all about them first. 
And they literally spent a year 

584
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,360
coming to events through the 
breed club and through meetups 

585
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,280
that we have, getting to know 
everyone. 

586
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,840
And then they've got their puppy
and he's incredible, He's 

587
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,600
lovely. 
He's a year old now. 

588
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,840
But like they deal with that 
first and it shows because their

589
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,440
boy is just a really 
well-rounded, again, like Bob, 

590
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,360
he's very social, he's a great 
little lad. 

591
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,920
And you just think this is care 
and attention. 

592
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040
They're not possessions. 
I know under the law they're 

593
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,880
still possessions but like do 
have personalities and needs 

594
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,560
just like we do and who choose 
to meet those. 

595
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,720
You will have a great dog. 
I've got a one of my does is a 

596
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Belgian Malinois and. 
Yeah, exactly. 

597
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,200
She actually was a rescue. 
She'd come from horrific 

598
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,720
circumstances for the first 
eight months of her life, so 

599
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,640
you'd have to be a challenging 
dog. 

600
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,080
She's so lovely and it is down 
to the fact that the person who 

601
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,520
has her has put in the work. 
She and you would and think 

602
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360
that's not what I expect to 
build in the Malinois to behave 

603
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,640
like because she's very loving, 
very sweet. 

604
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,720
She plays with Noah. 
You've seen here, haven't you? 

605
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,680
She plays with Noah beautifully,
but it's because her human being

606
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,000
has chosen to put in the work 
for her to be the dog she should

607
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,280
be. 
And that is such an important 

608
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,960
point. 
Like it's the humans that have 

609
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,600
to be the advocate for the dogs.
Because The thing is, at the end

610
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,440
of the day, you know, as much as
we anthropomorphize our dogs, at

611
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,640
the end of it, they are an 
animal. 

612
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,840
And like, we need to go, right? 
We have this literally they're 

613
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,240
one step away from a wild animal
being inside our house. 

614
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,680
And if they're not getting what 
they need, of course they're 

615
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400
going to act out in ways because
they're getting frustrated 

616
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520
because they're not having a 
fulfilled life. 

617
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760
You know, if so, going using 
strudel as an example again. 

618
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280
So she's a germ Shep. 
If she wasn't doing some form of

619
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,400
like tug and, you know, biting 
her toys and playing wrestling 

620
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040
with me, she'd be taking that 
out on something else, whether 

621
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,040
that's the skirting boards or a 
person or and just doing even 

622
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,840
just the basic research of go 
right. 

623
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040
What does this dog need? 
You know, is it a herding dog? 

624
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,720
Right. 
OK, so it needs some sort of 

625
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,760
herding for yeah, yeah. 
If it's a a sight hound, you 

626
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120
know, get it chasing after a toy
or something, you know, like a 

627
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,440
flirt pole or something like 
that. 

628
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,480
If it's a scent hound, you know,
like a Bloodhound or a Beagle or

629
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,800
something like play, find it, 
you know, hide and seek with all

630
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
the treats and things that you 
need to find out what that 

631
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,800
specific dog breed was bred for.
And then it, and it doesn't have

632
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,320
to, you know, I'm not saying use
a dachshund to go and hunt 

633
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,560
badges, but, you know, have 
tunnels and tit yeah, duvets and

634
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,160
things like that. 
So they can hide under it, you 

635
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
know, like do something that 
appeals to the natural nature of

636
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640
what they were bred for. 
Because, you know, these these 

637
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,520
breeds have been around a lot 
longer than we have as 

638
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,760
individuals, you know, hundreds 
of years we're talking. 

639
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,200
And they've been very good at 
it. 

640
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,520
I'm not laughing at you. 
Who? 

641
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,360
Is that Noah? 
She's punching me in the leg. 

642
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,200
She. 
Wants some attention and if I 

643
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200
don't do that I'll have no skin 
on my shins within the next 5 

644
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280
minutes. 
For those of you who aren't 

645
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,280
watching on the video version, 
nowhere the Chow has decided to 

646
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,200
climb onto buns. 
I can just about see bombs. 

647
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Oh, there's Bob in me as well. 
Bob's just appeared as well. 

648
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,360
They must have heard their names
and came over. 

649
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,920
So where was the oh, yeah, oh, 
but yeah, just, you know, basic 

650
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
fulfilment needs of what the dog
was bred for. 

651
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,800
And find a way that that works 
into your everyday life and 

652
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,600
you'll find that, you know, 
you're going to have a better 

653
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,760
adjusted dog. 
Well, all around because it's 

654
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320
natural instincts and natural 
drives have been ticked rather 

655
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360
than it just being a good 
obedient dog you want it to be 

656
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,800
living its best life as 
possible. 

657
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,880
People see Bob and Nur at all 
these events so think they must 

658
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040
be constantly socialised but the
reality is because they're 

659
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,800
traverted breed and I'm an 
introverted human, in between 

660
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,760
those it's just us at home 
chiller and go and sit in the 

661
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,880
garden because obviously they 
were in the Chinese mountain. 

662
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,720
They are a garden breed so they 
like to sit outside and see 

663
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,360
what's going on and it were them
because then they. 

664
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,680
Yeah, some people who get a 
Husky and they go, why is my 

665
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Husky pulling on the lead? 
It's designed to pull that. 

666
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960
That dog has been bred to do one
thing. 

667
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,760
But yeah, and I think that's one
thing. 

668
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,960
I really stressed it with my 
clients and just with people in 

669
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,400
general. 
Like, do your research. 

670
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,160
If you're going to buy a puppy, 
fine. 

671
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,480
No one's going to judge you for 
it. 

672
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,800
But do your research. 
Just just it just take a couple 

673
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800
of hours across a few weeks and 
don't just, you know, like you 

674
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,040
said, don't impulse buy a puppy 
just because you've seen one. 

675
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Don't just log on to whatever 
puppy buying websites and go 

676
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120
it's a cute golden retriever I'm
going to get that. 

677
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Like learn what a golden 
retriever is for, learn what it 

678
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,120
was bred for, learn the quirks, 
learn the pitfalls of having 

679
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,600
one, learn the benefits, and 
just learn the breed inside and 

680
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,240
out before you even get one and 
you'll find that you'll have a 

681
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,200
much better adjusted dog 
throughout his life. 

682
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,040
Breeders bamboozle you with all 
this is champion lines and this 

683
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
that and the other because often
those champion lines might be 

684
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,760
several generations back and 
have no bearing on your current 

685
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160
dog. 
Also buying your dog to go in 

686
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,120
the ring because you'll probably
not, in which case that doesn't 

687
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,920
matter. 
But also if they tell you that 

688
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,000
some health issues are normal 
within a breed, don't just sit 

689
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,400
and take that because I know 
with chows people say oh, hip 

690
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,840
DL, but actually it's not 
something that should be within 

691
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,320
the breed. 
It's actually down to the fact 

692
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,800
that a lot of people don't test 
and we're getting it happen more

693
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,600
and more, but it's not normal. 
You know, the things often see 

694
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,880
in many breeds is something like
entropion, which you guard 

695
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760
against entirely. 
But in something such as a chow,

696
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,280
you can kind of think about how 
the the are built and it may 

697
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,800
impact whether or not they 
develop something like that. 

698
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,240
So there's lots of little things
that you as a the general public

699
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,680
can be thinking about. 
Yeah, and especially because 

700
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,040
like. 
We should do a post on our 

701
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,400
Instagram, sort of the top 
questions to kind of ask when 

702
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,720
going. 
We could do that, couldn't we? 

703
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Me and you could put our heads 
together on that for sure. 

704
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Absolutely, and it's even like 
little things like, you know, 

705
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440
there are people out there who 
are dog breeders as their 

706
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,440
profession, which is absolutely 
fine, but look at how many 

707
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560
litters they're pumping out here
and things like that. 

708
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,360
Like do you research into the 
breeder as well as the breed? 

709
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Because if, and don't be afraid 
to say no, really. 

710
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Like I know it's heartbreaking 
when you see these puppies and 

711
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,560
you go, well, if I don't get it,
this no one's going to get the 

712
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,159
puppies. 
Like it's going to work out 

713
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,560
worse for everyone involved, No?
That puppy in that scenario, 

714
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,000
like you are still a consumer. 
I'm just going to pop this one 

715
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,239
down and. 
And yeah and I think that's 

716
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920
really important. 
Like a lot of just that are 

717
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,880
breeding for health and 
preservation of breeds. 

718
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,239
They don't breed that often so 
you'll be asked to go on a 

719
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920
waiting list and they'll you 
know Bob's breed. 

720
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,280
I had a whole host of questions 
I needed to answer to make sure 

721
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560
that he was coming to the right 
place. 

722
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,239
And because I'd kind of said 
that I wanted to maybe try and 

723
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,840
show the dog because I'd been 
told that would be a way to bond

724
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,240
with him because I was so 
worried I wouldn't because of 

725
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,040
obviously loving Wilson. 
And there were two boys in his 

726
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,360
litter. 
And I actually thought the other

727
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,400
one was cuter. 
And she said to me, no, this one

728
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,680
is going to do better in a ring.
You should have him. 

729
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,080
And I'll trust her on that 
because of her experience and 

730
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,480
and she puts a lot of thought 
into how she breeds a dog. 

731
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,480
Yeah, yeah. 
How I know as they've grown up, 

732
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,080
although the boys do look 
similar, I can see why she said 

733
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,440
this one. 
And you know, that's that's a 

734
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680
good breeder who's going to say 
to you, look, you've said this 

735
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,280
specific thing and this is 
actually what and actually push 

736
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,360
you and go. 
But you if if you go to a 

737
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,120
breeder and you say I want a 
girl or a boy and they push you 

738
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,200
to have a girl, that's flag like
because you've told them what 

739
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,160
your request is. 
So if they're pushing you to go 

740
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,920
opposite sex or, you know, to 
goo or you know, there are lots 

741
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400
of red flags, but we can 
definitely do a post about that.

742
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,400
Well, yeah. 
And it's even things like just, 

743
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,920
you know, take the time to go 
and see the litter before you 

744
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,160
even consider putting a deposit 
down. 

745
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Every respectable breeder will 
let you see the puppies from a 

746
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,240
certain point. 
I think it's about sort of like 

747
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,360
four or five weeks. 
Or something like that, yeah. 

748
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,360
And just go and have a look at 
the whole litter. 

749
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,320
Don't just go well, I've seen 
this one online, so I'm just 

750
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,400
gonna go for that one. 
You know, unless it's like, for 

751
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,760
example, you want a female and 
there's only one female left in 

752
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,680
the litter. 
OK, yeah, fine. 

753
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:19,120
But if, if you, if you're not 
sure of what you want from the, 

754
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640
you know, whether you don't know
a boy or a girl or colors or 

755
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,680
whatever, just go and see and 
just see what the like 

756
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,440
interacting with each other, 
interacting with mum, you know, 

757
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,200
so the breeder who I got strudel
of like she used to play 

758
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,880
fireworks and Thunder sound 
effects and things like that 

759
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,920
when they, who were, you know, 
3-4 weeks old. 

760
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,800
So, and you know, she had 
grandkids who were coming in and

761
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,320
like playing with the puppies. 
And so they were so well 

762
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,080
conditioned, so well socialized 
before I even picked strudel to 

763
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,440
like put my deposit down on. 
I was like, oh, all these 

764
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,080
puppies are really well 
adjusted. 

765
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,760
Videos of Bob when he was like 
maybe 3 weeks old on the table 

766
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,760
and she's telling him he's 
handsome and he's like this. 

767
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,720
But obviously we all know he 
still does that now. 

768
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,320
But she was prepping him for 
like, being good to be on a 

769
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520
table, to be brushed. 
Yeah, there's things they do and

770
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,720
I think just check they're on, 
they're connected to any breed 

771
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,560
clubs is always a good thing 
because most breeders who are 

772
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,240
going to do it well, they will 
have a connection somewhere. 

773
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,840
They may not be a member of one,
but they will have connections 

774
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960
to those. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

775
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,280
And and and most of the time 
like could do some digging on 

776
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,960
the Breeders. 
I'm like, see what their history

777
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,640
of dogs is like. 
So for example, again, using 

778
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,400
Strudel as an example, again, 
like the Brit, she's had nothing

779
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,840
but German shepherds her entire 
life. 

780
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280
Like when we went into a home, 
she's got pictures of all the 

781
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,240
previous dogs and previous like,
you know, and, and I like the 

782
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:38,080
fact when breeders do, you know,
like they'll make a WhatsApp 

783
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,720
group chat or something for 
everyone who's taking a puppy 

784
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,320
from that so they can stay in 
touch. 

785
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
And it's so the breeder can see 
that the puppies that they've 

786
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,040
sold are actually going to good 
places. 

787
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200
It's a really nice way for them 
to stay updated. 

788
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,640
Other and sisters, like I know 
where they all are and what's 

789
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,680
going on with them and and you 
know, and yeah, I get babies. 

790
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,960
So I get to see his nephews and 
nieces crazy because it's dogs. 

791
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200
But actually I'm like, I love 
this. 

792
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,200
And actually then we've become 
friends with the people who have

793
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,040
the babies of the and you're 
like, this is incredible. 

794
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,960
Like this is what it should so 
crazy like. 

795
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,760
Natural communities, doesn't it?
Because it's fantastic, but that

796
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,720
also shows you the the work of 
the breeder that that those 

797
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:22,800
things happen because they 
create an environment in which 

798
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,000
they they want that to be there.
They care about the long term 

799
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:28,520
being of the their dogs, which 
is. 

800
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,000
And just in case there are 
breeders listening as well, just

801
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
so it doesn't sound like we're 
bashing breeders constantly. 

802
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,240
No. 
But but but like breeders, don't

803
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,600
be afraid to say no to people as
well. 

804
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,080
Like, I know it can be quite 
tempting, you know, especially, 

805
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,040
you know, because it's a 
considerable amount of money 

806
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,640
when you're buying a puppy these
days, just across the board is 

807
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,960
quite expensive. 
But and I know the temptations 

808
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,400
just go, oh, that's money at the
end of the day. 

809
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,000
So yeah, I'll sell a puppy. 
But don't be afraid to say no to

810
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,400
people. 
If you're getting a bad feeling 

811
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,880
from someone or, you know, you 
can tell that this puppy is not 

812
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,240
going to be where you'd want it 
to be. 

813
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Don't be afraid to say no to 
these people. 

814
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,320
Like you've got every. 
Right. 

815
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,400
Saying that. 
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

816
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Because at the end of the day 
it's something that you've put 

817
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,760
time and love. 
People don't realise that before

818
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,600
people even have a litter, 
they're spending thousands of 

819
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,240
pounds. 
If they're doing health testing,

820
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,440
prepping stuff they have to have
savings for. 

821
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,520
If AC section is needed, then 
there's 8 weeks of. 

822
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:25,440
I looked up a bit of puppies for
a Duff last year 4 weeks old and

823
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,280
it put me didn't ever it worked 
like you have to have respect 

824
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,000
for those that putting in the 
work for that for sure. 

825
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,200
You got to think when you take a
810 week old puppy home, like 

826
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,240
the amount of times you're up in
the night to make sure it goes 

827
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,680
out to the toilet, you know, 
you're constantly at every hour 

828
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,760
you're doing something with this
puppy. 

829
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,440
Now multiply that by several and
you've got to look after a 

830
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,560
postpartum mother as well. 
Like, yeah, you're looking 

831
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,560
across the board like it's a lot
of work. 

832
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,400
It's a hell of a lot of work. 
Expect for those that do that, 

833
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,200
like that. 
And again, that's a reason not 

834
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,360
to just start breeding your dog 
because people tell you your 

835
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,240
dog's pretty and you, you know, 
it, it takes thought and and I 

836
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,600
will say there are some 
incredible breeders out there. 

837
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,320
It's not that every breeder is. 
There are really good breeders 

838
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,680
out there who care deeply about 
the health and well-being of 

839
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,120
their dogs and the preservation 
of their breed. 

840
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,320
Yeah. 
And, and you know, likewise 

841
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,960
there's rescue centres that 
really do care and really do and

842
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,680
you know. 
Noah's rescue, I've actually, 

843
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,880
one of them had commented 
saying, oh, we're coming to 

844
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,880
Goodriff on Sunday, so we'll see
you there. 

845
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,760
And I've kept in contact with 
them throughout and it's, it's 

846
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,200
lovely when you have that, 
that's a sign of a good rescue. 

847
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,600
It's one that tell these of 
their dog. 

848
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Well, you've seen their stuff, 
haven't you? 

849
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,160
There were dogs that have been 
rehomed 1015 years ago and they 

850
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,800
still get updates on what those 
dogs are up to. 

851
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,240
And I think that's a really good
thing. 

852
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,360
Yeah. 
And I think what it boils down 

853
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,520
to at the end of the day is do 
your research. 

854
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,440
Buying a puppy over getting a 
rescue. 

855
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,120
Neither's better than the other.
It's all down to your individual

856
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,800
circumstances. 
What you want from it. 

857
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,880
Like do you want a companion? 
Do you want a hiking friend? 

858
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Do you want something that'll 
just sit in the corner of a pub 

859
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,920
with you? 
Do you want a protection dog? 

860
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,600
You're like look into all these 
sort of things that you want 

861
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,480
from your dog. 
Do the research 1st and then 

862
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,440
weigh up like weighing up 
whether you get a rescue, a 

863
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,080
puppy is probably the latter 
steps of before you actually get

864
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,760
the dog. 
Like do everything 1st and then 

865
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,160
you know, if there's a, you 
know, have a look if, if you 

866
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,040
want a German Shepherd and 
there's a German Shepherd at a 

867
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,680
local rescue, have a look at 
that German Shepherd and see if 

868
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960
you can offer it. 
You know, if it's been rehomed 

869
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,040
for no fault of its own, you 
know, it's not a bite risk and 

870
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,120
anything like that. 
Maybe you can give that German 

871
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,800
Shepherd a good, you know, good 
few years of happiness just by 

872
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,640
giving it a home and then and 
then get a puppy afterwards. 

873
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,960
You know, if you've got an older
senior dog, you know, wait until

874
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,760
that dog's older and then get, 
you know, we did this with 

875
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,800
layer. 
So layers just turned 10 years 

876
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,320
old and I wanted to get a puppy 
around the time she turns 10 

877
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,560
because as morbid as it sounds, 
realistically, I know I've not 

878
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,320
got years and years and years 
and years and years left with 

879
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080
layer, but I want that 
transition phase of because 

880
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,280
layer is so good. 
I want her to teach strudel 

881
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,320
stuff as well. 
So that's why I wanted to get 

882
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,040
him at this sort of age where 
layers young enough to teach 

883
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,880
strudel stuff but not be 
overwhelmed by her being a puppy

884
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,240
as well. 
And then, and then I can and 

885
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,160
then once strudel, sorry, once 
Leia's passed away, I can focus 

886
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,360
everything into strudel. 
But I know that she's done all 

887
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,320
the preliminary work anyway. 
So neither is better than the 

888
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520
other. 
They, you know, loads of rescues

889
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,520
need rescuing. 
Loads of puppies need buying. 

890
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,920
Pick what works for you, but 
just do your research. 

891
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,000
Please do your research before 
you make the. 

892
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Display Yeah, exactly. 
It is kind of Yeah, I. 

893
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,160
Think that's a good place to end
today? 

894
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,440
I know. 
He had besides the conversation 

895
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,840
as well. 
Yeah, apart from that, like 

896
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,400
that. 
But yeah, I'll tell you what, 

897
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,600
listeners, if you want to send 
in your stories of rescues or 

898
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,680
getting puppies, you know, good 
and bad stories, you know, it 

899
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,640
does happen. 
There's been situations where 

900
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680
I've gone to get a rescue and 
I've been like, no, this isn't 

901
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,000
for me there. 
Tell us your no stories as well 

902
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,120
as your yes stories. 
Like we want to know what? 

903
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,720
Yeah, if everyone's being 
responsible, basically. 

904
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,600
And tell us success stories. 
If you've had a rescue and 

905
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
you've gone on to have a 
fantastic life with your rescue,

906
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,360
or if you bought a puppy and 
it's turned out absolutely 

907
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000
fantastic, please let us know. 
You know, if it's worked the 

908
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,160
other way and you've bought a 
puppy that you thought was going

909
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,480
to be this wonderful thing and 
it turned out something else, 

910
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,680
let us know. 
Because it happens. 

911
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Life does happen. 
It's just we can only do as much

912
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,080
as we can just to make sure it 
doesn't happen. 

913
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,480
So I'd love to hear the stories,
both good and bad, from people. 

914
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,960
If they want to write in and 
Jeff keep sending Star Wars 

915
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,480
docs, why not? 
That can be a year round thing 

916
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,400
that doesn't just need to be the
start of May. 

917
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Let me tell you. 
And I want to thank the people 

918
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:46,040
who on my sent messages with 
concern after my Yoda video game

919
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,520
person on Facebook who said 
whatever's wrong with you don't 

920
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,560
get it fixed. 
Amazing. 

921
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,280
Yeah. 
Don't ever fix it, bum. 

922
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,880
Don't ever. 
Fix. 

923
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,000
I think that another year older 
next week. 

924
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,400
I don't think that's going to 
happen. 

925
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:04,440
We'll see. 
Yeah. 

926
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Thank you for listening, guys. 
And join us again in two weeks 

927
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,000
time for Episode 3. 
In two weeks time. 

928
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,720
We will, We do. 
We've not, we've not confirmed. 

929
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,760
We're not revealing you, but we 
have got exciting guests lined 

930
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,240
up. 
We've got some very exciting 

931
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,000
guests, actually very, very 
exciting guests and some guests 

932
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,320
that you probably would never 
expect. 

933
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,920
Lovely stuff, right? 
See you all in a couple of 

934
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,160
weeks.