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Coming up, would you be 
intimidated by me if it turned 

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into a street fight? 
You don't scare me. 

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Because your mates with Farage. 
I mates with Farage, I mates 

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with Donald Trump junior. 
People are questioning me if I'm

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I'm gay or not. 
No, no, I didn't. 

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Honestly, I won't judge you if 
you were to say anything about 

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that. 
No, no, I'm not gay. 

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Oh, sorry, you might be my son. 
Maybe you're too too old to be 

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my son. 
You know what I might be because

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I don't know who my daddy is. 
I could be your dad. 

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We might have to cut this high. 
Yeah, yeah, we're. 

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Welcome back to the Don't Ask Me

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That podcast with Paul 
Chowdhury, the former presenter 

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of the podcast Today. 
My guest needs no introduction 

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at all, but I'm going to give 
him one anyway. 

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He is boxing royalty, a veteran 
of some of the most brutal wars 

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in the modern era, and just two 
weeks ago he took on Deontay 

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Wilder in a 12 round split 
decision. 

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He knocks out giants. 
He weaponizes press conferences.

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And today he sing across from a 
British comedian who's hoping he

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doesn't flip that table. 
That's why I've only got a small

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table so it doesn't flip it. 
Ladies and gentlemen, the one, 

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the only Del Boy AKA War 
Chisora. 

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Why one rude? 
Why? 

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Why 1 Long time man. 
How are you? 

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We're fellow NW Londoners, your 
Finchley Edgware in it. 

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No, I'm hamster. 
You're now oh, sorry. 

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Now you're see, now you've gone.
Now you're more like middle 

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class. 
You're now you've. 

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Gone. 
I've always been hamster. 

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I always put Finchley at the end
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fit in. 
Eventually the IT kind of makes 

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out you're from the streets, but
you're. 

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Now you have. 
It's a very nice area. 

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Yeah, Finchley has gone better. 
It's gone down. 

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You're a bit you're a bit 
younger than me, so I remember 

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the days when Finchley was a 
dump. 

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I don't know, I think it's a 
dump now. 

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Actually, you always kind of 
edgeway used to be Edgeway's now

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a dump, right? 
I think. 

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Finchley is Do you think 
everywhere's going a bit down in

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London? 
Everything is going down in 

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London because the inheritance 
of English people not there no 

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more. 
Yeah. 

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So people are bringing one, they
think. 

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There's no more white people 
left anymore, no. 

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Yeah, like us. 
Yeah, I believe so. 

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What? 
We going to do about this 

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because we did Brexit. 
I know I knew why people to come

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back. 
What about? 

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What about us? 
What about us? 

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I. 
Need to put you guys back. 

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I was bored here, mate, I was 
bored. 

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Here, Don't get me started right
here. 

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I'm gonna get cancelled. 
Don't worry about getting I'm 

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already cancelled you. 
You're uncancellable. 

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I don't know why, why this guy 
got me in the Air Force, because

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I go, I go big, tired. 
I talk too much, you know? 

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That's what I do. 
I know. 

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You fight too much. 
I talk too much. 

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I don't think, Derek, you can 
get cancelled. 

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I don't think you. 
I don't think you're really 

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cancelled. 
How can they cancel when they 

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ask boxes to say like, Oh yeah, 
you know, what's your opinion? 

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Tyson Fury got cancelled years 
ago. 

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He's never been cancelled. 
You know he's got a Netflix 

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special. 
Yeah. 

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So like the kind of stuff he 
said back in the day, it was all

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over the news. 
He can't say this and he says 

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religious beliefs, then it will 
cancel him. 

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I don't think cancelling is a 
thing anymore. 

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There's too too many platforms, 
too many things to do. 

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You can't cancel anyone. 
Oh thank God man do. 

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You know what I mean? 
You can't get cancelled. 

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You're there's some people that 
uncancellable. 

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I think you're one of them. 
That's good to know. 

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Thank you. 
Where are you going to get 

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cancelled from I. 
Don't know. 

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There's, there's, there's always
ways to try to block. 

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When we say cancel, we don't 
talk about, we're talking about 

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they kind of shut down you for 
making the, the ways of you 

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making your own money. 
You know, the phone, these 

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people or you can't put them on 
your platform. 

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And then that's what that's 
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We call, I suppose, yeah. 
The only way is like Russell 

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Brand, yeah, is then they kind 
of stopped his monetization from

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YouTube when he was on. 
Various Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Charges, but that's when you got
criminal charges. 

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Against, you know, Russell 
Brand. 

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I started off comedy with him. 
Do you, when you see him, tell 

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me he owes me something? 
Is it? 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
I'm not going to see him much 

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anymore. 
When you speak to him on the 

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phone. 
I'm going to avoid that guy. 

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Why? 
He's on various rape charges. 

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Is he? 
Yeah. 

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He's. 
He could go down. 

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Could he? 
Yeah. 

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Fuck. 
You know you're in trouble, 

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isn't it? 
Don't take this personally. 

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Now, when I saw your missus, I 
was like that. 

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Then they said this is Derek 
Chisora's wife and the kids are 

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beautiful kids. 
But I thought, how is how did he

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get that? 
This is to all the brothers out 

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there and everybody out there, 
every man. 

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You must have some bad boy game.
No, no, it's not about game. 

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It's about it's about 
confidence. 

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Yeah, I got confidence and I can
walk in the room and take over 

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the. 
Room. 

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Oh no, that's that's a fact. 
I mean, like, you have to have 

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confidence in everything you do,
you know? 

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So for me it's confidence. 
I mean, I don't really care. 

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What did you where did you show 
up, Sir? 

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In Hampstead, is it? 
Yeah. 

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Because she's a Caucasian lady. 
We're in the ham, the looks of 

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it. 
Yeah, we're in Amsterdam, Swan. 

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That was it. 
Man, you, you know, you're, 

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you're punching. 
No, I'm not punching. 

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I'm not literally. 
I'm doing OK. 

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I. 
Can do better for one or two. 

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You, I don't think you can get 
better than that, I think. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
You know that three kids. 

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Three kids. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
And you're still a young man. 

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You've got your whole life ahead
of you now. 

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I do, but it's a it's a long 
life, so you need to figure out 

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what to do with it. 
Yeah, it's difficult, isn't? 

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It it's not difficult. 
It's wake up every morning and 

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just take one two steps and 
that's it. 

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Because you think about it, you 
came here in 98, Yeah. 

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No, 2000 Millennium is it? 
Yeah, that's when you came. 

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Yeah. 
OK. 

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One or 16. 
From Zim, Zimbabwe. 

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Zimbabwe. 
Yeah, too many ethnics. 

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There isn't. 
It no. 

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Oh, I just came here when I was 
about 16. 

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Came in bloody January when it 
was fucking cold. 

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Why did you come? 
Because my mum was here. 

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Oh yeah. 
Did you come in a small boat or?

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Nah, I came on a plane. 
I was there, Yeah, I came on a 

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plane, got to Gatwick. 
I came on Air Air Zimbabwe 

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basically when I had the. 
Airline Were you in the plane or

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on the plane? 
I was in the plane missing in 

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the economy. 
Oh, those are the days. 

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It was OK, but I won't be flying
economy anymore. 

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The economy in Zimbabwe airlines
is very different too. 

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No, no, it was good. 
Like cargo, isn't it? 

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No, no, it was good. 
Is it? 

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Yeah, because it was empty. 
So it. 

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Was good. 
It was good. 

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And you landed in Heathrow? 
No. 

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Gatwick. 
Oh, you landed Gatwick? 

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Yeah. 
Proper G Yeah, proper G Gatwick.

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And then all that. 
And then when you came and you 

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were 16, you looked around. 
Anything. 

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I looked around. 
Yeah. 

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So the white people, yeah, Now I
don't look around, I don't see 

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no white people. 
So back from 2000 I was already 

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doing stand up by that point. 
Yeah, and people didn't 

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understand stand up by that 
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No, it was new. 
It was. 

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It was. 
New. 

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It was new, yeah. 
I don't even know if I've done. 

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I don't even. 
I've never done shows in 

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Zimbabwe. 
I think I think I think now with

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the with the Instagram and 
Facebook and Tiktok, I think 

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that's the real news now. 
So when people can post it and 

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people going to be flicking for 
it and obviously the media doing

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something in Zimbabwe and 
someone doing impact in India 

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and jokes, but it's getting 
there. 

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You. 
Literally just two weeks ago, I,

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I I just said this to you before
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You look like you haven't been 
in a fight for years. 

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But two weeks ago, you went 12 
rounds with Deontay Wilder to a 

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split decision at the age of 42.
And you don't have any scratch. 

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How is this? 
How does your face heal? 

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You're doing something that we 
don't know about. 

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Yeah. 
How do you heal so quickly? 

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I eat much pom pom, that's what 
is it. 

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But you said on another podcast 
you don't eat pom pom. 

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I am. 
Joking. 

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No, I just, I don't know. 
It's always been my night. 

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Even my kids have the same blood
as me now. 

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Zimbabwe and. 
Blood. 

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Yeah. 
It's just like one minute I'm in

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pain, next morning I wake up, 
I'm back to Nome. 

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Is it? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, because like I personally 
thought that was it could have 

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gone either way. 
Yeah, but it 2 knock downs that 

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gave me and that. 
One thing, when you fell out of 

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that rope thing and then they. 
He pushed me, Yeah. 

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He pushed you? 
Yeah. 

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He he pushed me. 
And even the second time he hit 

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me, he pushed me. 
So as I was going down, I was 

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like, no, I'm going to take you 
down with me. 

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And on top of that, he fell down
with his knees in my stomach. 

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Yeah, which was not fair. 
But I'm going to get him because

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I have asked for a rematch. 
How is it? 

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Yeah. 
You got the rematch clause. 

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I'm. 
Going to listen. 

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I got to. 
I've asked for the rematch. 

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Yeah, it was. 
It was. 

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People say it was a fight it. 
It was a good fight. 

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It was a brawl. 
Yeah, but that's what you want. 

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And it was like, oh, you should 
retire. 

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And I'm like get the fuck out. 
You know what? 

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What is boxing? 
It's theatre. 

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Yeah. 
You're selling tickets. 

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Essentially. 
It's a way of selling. 

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I do. 
I go out there, I tell jokes, 

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sell tickets. 
You go out there, you fight, you

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sell tickets. 
It's it's an entertainment. 

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Why are people complaining 
about? 

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Oh, what I wanted to see was 
more of a chess match where it's

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they're fighting. 
I don't understand when people 

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criticize boxing. 
Because they don't understand 

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it. 
It's books. 

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You know what, How hard it is to
go 12 round. 

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People couldn't even go one 
round for three minutes to get 

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12 rounds. 
You know what I've done? 

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I don't know how many runs I've 
done in 12. 

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I've done so many 12 rounds. 
I don't know how you do it at 

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the age of 42 as well that you 
can go 12 rounds. 

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It's all because I tell you, I 
always got a thing every time 

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when they say when it goes 
coming with the number, I always

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look up for the number when my 
coach is talking to me and I see

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oh fuck, round six. 
Oh damn. 

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And then I come back again and 
I'm like round eight. 

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I'm like oh fuck. 
You've got a lot in the chamber.

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Round 11 and you're like oh fuck
hell, now you're holding on by a

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thread because you're just 
tired. 

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And to keep those arms up and to
keep that guard up. 

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But you, you don't look like 
it's affecting you. 

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Even with this fight, I didn't 
think you looked like you. 

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You had stuff. 
You still had. 

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The tank was still still had. 
My weight was a problem, right? 

243
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Yeah. 
If I took off a couple of 

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pounds, I'd have been boxing 
much better because my last 

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fight was in February. 
Water Wallet. 

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With water wallet. 
Yeah, and then my weight was 

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very good for that fight and 
then this one, the way was not 

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coming off right for some 
reason. 

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It's harder when you get older. 
42 still young how do you. 

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I'm 51 you're. 
Such a liar. 

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Yeah, 52 in August. 
No, no, you're not 51. 

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Are you serious? 
No, you're lying to. 

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Me, I swear to you, 74 I was 
born. 

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You look good brother, for 
thanks for one well done man. 

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No grey hairs man. 
A lot of grey hairs. 

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We just paint them. 
Just paint them. 

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Good. 
I had to paint miles before the 

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fight over here. 
I had the wife paint them. 

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See, even if you shaved, you 
look like a baby. 

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Actually, you'd look more like a
baby if you shaved. 

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You know what I'm saying? 
Black don't crack. 

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You know what I mean, Zimbabwean
don't. 

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Well, I mean, black don't crack 
you. 

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Don't. 
You've got no lines, nothing 

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considering you've taken punches
to the face for a living. 

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You. 
Know everybody always think like

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when I take punches, like I ride
these punches, you know, yeah, 

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because you yeah, I ride them. 
So when he he when I get hit, 

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boom, I don't stick in the 
mouth. 

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No, I go with it and I come back
with another one and, you know, 

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so I'm riding it. 
You play chess, but most 

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fighters don't know how to ride.
They're like boom, when they 

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have to stand there. 
No, I'm like, go with it. 

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Which is why you're knocked out,
right? 

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You don't get knocked out very 
much. 

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Exactly. 
So when you go with the punches,

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people don't realise what it's 
like to get punched in the face.

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I've been punched in the face a 
few times. 

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For me, it's not hard. 
It's it's just like kind of 

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every day. 
It's like going to the office. 

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And it's also hard to punch 
people in the face. 

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What what? 
I've played tennis, I've boxed, 

283
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I've done things like this, 
right? 

284
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Tennis is the hardest, football 
is hard. 

285
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But I think when it comes to 
boxing, it's superhuman strength

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that people can. 
Tackle football is hard. 

287
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Not like boxing, football is 
hard in. 

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One sense like. 
In terms of endurance, right for

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90 minutes, but it's not like it
as I'd say it's I, I, I. 

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Disagree with you? 
I would say football, tennis, 

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tennis is and then boxing. 
No, no, no. 

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Sports. 
There's there's boxing, tennis, 

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yeah. 
And then they squash. 

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Squash. 
Football is at a bomb because 

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you have to understand football,
you got 10 players. 

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You can Sprint and pass the ball
and never rest in boxing. 

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You can't rest in tennis, you 
get low without low, 30 seconds 

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rest, you get a reward and you 
go back for about 4-5 steps 

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until somebody breaks the job. 
So football, I'm finding it hard

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because you can go out drinking,
come back, play football and 

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have a players will cover for 
you. 

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So I don't know. 
About That's true, yeah. 

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Team sports are way down the 
list of yeah yeah. 

304
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I think what's a new sport 
everybody's playing now? 

305
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Paddle. 
Paddle ball. 

306
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Paddle, Yeah. 
Yeah, everyone's doing this 

307
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thing. 
You play paddle? 

308
00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,680
No, man. 
No, I seen you last time I saw 

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you at the gym. 
It was David's gym, remember? 

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That's why I saw you. 
I used to train with with David 

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Haye. 
He's he comes to lot of my 

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shows. 
That's where we met actually, 

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through through David. 
A lot of the boxers come to my 

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show. 
I don't know why. 

315
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For some reason they find my 
comedy. 

316
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A lot of fighters seem. 
I've never seen your show 

317
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before. 
You should come. 

318
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When are you next? 
It's very violent. 

319
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I'm going to America in two days
to do the LA. 

320
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I'm doing Netflix as a joke 
festival. 

321
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,320
Yeah. 
Oh, cool. 

322
00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,160
That's it. 
Well and Congrats. 

323
00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,920
Thanks man, it's just a 
festival, but you come out there

324
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with me. 
Congrats. 

325
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No, I hate America. 
You don't like America? 

326
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No. 
Can you get in? 

327
00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,320
I can't. 
I don't like America. 

328
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,240
It's not my thing. 
But what about Trump? 

329
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Because your mates with Farage. 
I mates with Farage, I mates 

330
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with Donald Trump Junior so. 
So then you should be able to 

331
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get into America. 
No, I can't. 

332
00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,240
Get in. 
But I don't like America. 

333
00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:06,840
Is it? 
How come? 

334
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,040
Is this food is not good? 
Food is wicked, man. 

335
00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,280
Huh. 
It's the better than this place.

336
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,440
You may, you must be delusional,
right? 

337
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,360
You must be delusional. 
What kind of what kind of what 

338
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are you eating there? 
What about five Guys? 

339
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That's American. 
Yeah, but do the mats. 

340
00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,040
Yeah. 
What's the American population? 

341
00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,080
Let's say if you go to LA, well,
how many people live in LA? 

342
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Must be about a few million a. 
Few million in those few million

343
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how many cows that I have to 
kill every time for everybody 

344
00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,480
they have good beef and how many
cows I have to I've. 

345
00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,400
Heard about this? 
Yeah, but I'm like, if you do 

346
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the maths, I mean like, is this 
madness? 

347
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,200
Yeah. 
You know, some more American 

348
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,920
friends when they come here and 
I take them for breakfast to one

349
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of my local places and they have
the eggs. 

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They look at the eggs. 
They're like, what are these 

351
00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,000
eggs? 
What is he? 

352
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And I'm like, they're like, 
what? 

353
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Because the eggs here are more 
yellow than than than American 

354
00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,560
was a white in the sense it's 
quite difficult, but. 

355
00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320
Everyone asked me about your 
internal monologue. 

356
00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,280
Well, actually I'm asking about 
it. 

357
00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,160
Everyone says that you threw 
when you threw a table or you 

358
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,680
kiss an opponent and they've 
said like, you know what of 

359
00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,360
thinking what goes through your 
head 5 seconds before you do 

360
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,120
these things Because boxing is 
all about entertainment, as we 

361
00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,120
say, selling tickets. 
The reason a lot of the good 

362
00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,440
fighters don't do well is 
because they can't sell tickets.

363
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,600
And you've said it's yourself, 
your box office, because you can

364
00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,720
create these viral moments, and 
I think you've created a lot of 

365
00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,960
them. 
Yes, because I get bored. 

366
00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,360
Yeah, but a lot of people don't 
come up with this. 

367
00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,280
I get bored. 
So what's the internal monologue

368
00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,720
when you go in there? 
It's you're the most like a 

369
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,600
comic, you know, You go in 
there, you've got material. 

370
00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400
I get bored, man. 
I get bored. 

371
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,960
I get bored with so much of it, 
like I can be as I'm saying 

372
00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,240
here, and I'm thinking about how
I'm going to sell my rematch. 

373
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,600
Yeah, I'm going to help you sell
this rematch. 

374
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,720
But Deonte, yeah, he was I, I 
wanted, obviously wanted to go 

375
00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,720
your way. 
Yeah, but all I'm trying to say 

376
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,560
to you is like the way things 
come up from me is just like 

377
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,400
when I'm just thinking of 
something that will pop up, like

378
00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:22,680
the the kissing thing. 
I think I just came back from a 

379
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,400
band. 
Yeah. 

380
00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:28,400
And then I was finding him and I
was being bored. 

381
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,880
And when I did, it was, yeah, 
I'm really shocked. 

382
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,560
And people were. 
Questioning your people. 

383
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,760
People were questioning if I'm 
gay or not. 

384
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,520
No, no, I didn't. 
Honestly, I won't judge you if 

385
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,000
you were to say anything about 
that. 

386
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,280
No, no, no, I'm not gay. 
Oh, sorry. 

387
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:52,280
Yeah, just kiss the man. 
Doesn't make you gay. 

388
00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,480
I didn't. 
But don't make you gay. 

389
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,680
They don't make you gay if you 
kiss a. 

390
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,480
Man don't make you gay. 
I mean like it's like going to 

391
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,880
see a doctor, Yeah. 
And you're going and you and you

392
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,920
like to go see a doctor and goes
put your trousers down just 

393
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,920
checking your testicles that. 
Doesn't make you gay. 

394
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,720
But if you got if, if you get a 
hard Dick, does it make you gay?

395
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,000
No, that don't make you gay if. 
You get stiff. 

396
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,280
On if he wanks you. 
Off. 

397
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,000
No. 
If you get hard on. 

398
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,920
Yeah. 
Let's say you go and see your 

399
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,520
doctor. 
Yeah, you got some issues. 

400
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,680
And then suddenly you lay on the
bed. 

401
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,520
Yeah. 
And you're there to stand and 

402
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,320
it's like opening up and then 
suddenly you get hard on. 

403
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:28,920
And you're there for a sore 
throat. 

404
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,440
No, no, I'm, I'm just saying, 
yeah, if you, I mean like, let's

405
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,680
say you're gone then because 
you've been scratching a little 

406
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040
bit and that's how you go. 
I'm just. 

407
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,920
Yeah, You know, everybody 
scratches, you go there, that's 

408
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,840
how you lay down there and 
that's how they you. 

409
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,080
Got a Bona? 
You got a bona. 

410
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,600
What do you do in that 
situation? 

411
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,240
Well, you that's how are you 
gay? 

412
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,760
No. 
I, I asked my doctor this when, 

413
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,000
when I get when I get, you know,
in, in boxing, when you get your

414
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medical check, you go see the 
doctor. 

415
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,040
He will strip you and then you 
look at your toes, your leg, 

416
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,120
your ankles, everything, your 
head, everything. 

417
00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:13,600
And then suddenly next minute he
goes for the he fucking goes for

418
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960
the bulls. 
So 1 nails I'm laying there. 

419
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:22,640
I go So dog, if I get hard on, 
does that make me get you guys? 

420
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,160
You guys, I hope you don't get 
one. 

421
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,680
So you put you put his fucking 
two hands on my nutsack. 

422
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,920
Yeah. 
And he's like holding them. 

423
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,800
I'm like, God shit. 
I'm like, don't get hard on, 

424
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,640
don't get hard. 
I'm sure this is not part of the

425
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,120
boxing exam. 
It is. 

426
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,960
Have you? 
Was he the actual doctor or he? 

427
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,200
Was actually a doctor, but he 
didn't. 

428
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,960
Come into the room. 
Just if you ever tell me to bend

429
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,920
over so my ass. 
I said no, that's not. 

430
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:52,040
That's part of the exam. 
No, no, that's not This is you. 

431
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,800
We're going into areas of boxing
professionality that no podcast 

432
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,640
has ever gone near. 
Yeah, He's just boxing. 

433
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,440
Boxers are weird, man. 
You know, boxing. 

434
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480
This is a weird man, people. 
Yeah. 

435
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,120
I mean, like purple. 
Weird is it? 

436
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,920
Yeah. 
How come in a way like you know 

437
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,680
where men are, Men are like 
there's about 10 men are. 

438
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,600
A lot of men. 
Yeah, there's so much gay talk 

439
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760
going on in there. 
There must be gay boxers in it. 

440
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,600
There must be, but I never met 
one. 

441
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,400
We wouldn't know. 
Yeah, but they should come out 

442
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,200
though. 
But you'd say more than MMA 

443
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,400
because? 
Oh fucking that MMA I see this 

444
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,720
man and some of my friends my 
Michael Page when he's. 

445
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,200
Michael Ben Page. 
Yeah, when he's training, when 

446
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,480
like he's got big fight coming 
up the block, he going to do 

447
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,760
some technical and he will lay 
down in the in the cage and open

448
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,000
his legs and his hands and I 
have a man has to come on top of

449
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,480
him. 
I'm like, oh, that's gay. 

450
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,320
But I always wind him up. 
What happens if you're in a 

451
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,200
clinch with Michael Venom Page 
and you get harder? 

452
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,360
No one get harder for me, it's 
too skinny. 

453
00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,560
He's different weight division 
to you. 

454
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,760
Some heavy weights are out 
there. 

455
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,360
Nah, you could. 
No way. 

456
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,600
I've been at your fights, I've 
been. 

457
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,040
I was at the first Tyson Fury 1 
when Chris fought. 

458
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,360
Yeah, in Wembley. 
No, that was the Copper Box. 

459
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,480
The second, second one. 
Not the first one, the second. 

460
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,280
One yeah, with Billy Saunders. 
Billy Joe Saunders and it was 

461
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,000
all travellers. 
Yeah, I tell me I want a fortune

462
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,920
call back when anybody has a 
bastard like. 

463
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,960
Yeah, that's how they speak. 
I don't want a fortune. 

464
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,680
I. 
Grew up with them. 

465
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,480
Did you where? 
When I was at school, like these

466
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,560
travellers came to my school and
this caravan just turned up in 

467
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,160
the area. 
Like loads of caravans turned up

468
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,080
and I was playing tennis with my
friend in Cameras Ave. one of 

469
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240
the parks and then one of my 
friends on his bike. 

470
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,600
He was mouthy to these two 
little guys. 

471
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,000
Let me let me try your bike like
Lauren train ride your bike and 

472
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000
I never don't forget to ride it.
Let me give a go on your bike. 

473
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,960
And he's no, no, fuck off, man. 
Now why are we putting out a 

474
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,200
fuck off? 
I'll fucking avoid you on that 

475
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280
bastard. 
And he smacked. 

476
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,720
They both kicked the shit out of
him. 

477
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,680
What's the difference between 
Travellers and Gypsies? 

478
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,400
I think the gypsy term is 
politically incorrect now, but 

479
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:22,200
the gypsies originated from 
India 100 / 100 years ago and 

480
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,200
then they travelled round India 
and this travelling term is now 

481
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,920
the politically correct term. 
OK, I think now you get the 

482
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,600
gypsy gangs in the Romanian 
Gypsies in London. 

483
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,520
You know when they come up to 
you and they give you that rose 

484
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,480
thing. 
Yeah, those are gypsies. 

485
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,400
OK. 
And travellers and that. 

486
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,480
So they turned up in these 
caravans and one of them sat 

487
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,360
next to me at school. 
So because I was in with the 

488
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:50,400
family, I was protected. 
None of them messed with you. 

489
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,480
Then when you're in with the 
family, you know, a lot of you 

490
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,400
know, obviously you know. 
No, I don't have any problems 

491
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,800
but. 
Well, but Tyson Fury originally 

492
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,640
was a traveller, right? 
But you know if you don't know 

493
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,280
not. 
Anymore, I think, I think it's 

494
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,880
too rich. 
Yeah, but you know, most 

495
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,000
travellers are rich, you know 
that? 

496
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,160
Yeah. 
So cash in hand, no tax. 

497
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,960
Yeah, big time. 
Yeah, and then, you know, I was 

498
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,640
just protected. 
So I was in with. 

499
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,560
I was literally a traveller then
when I was growing up at. 

500
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,040
School. 
So where you originally from? 

501
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Family from India. 
In the original Indian 

502
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,400
Traveller. 
Yeah, originally with the 

503
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,520
original Gypsies, yeah. 
Yeah. 

504
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,120
So it's. 
So you were in like, proper, 

505
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,720
like even with the boys not 
taking showers? 

506
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,960
Yeah. 
No, no, all that stuff. 

507
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,280
So any trouble? 
And then when? 

508
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,760
And then I used to train in 
Cronk Gym in Chalk Farm. 

509
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,480
Yeah, remember that gym? 
You know, I know Cronk Gym. 

510
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,800
My nephew trains. 
Yeah, I used. 

511
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,040
To box there, Thai boxing there 
when I was like 17/18/19. 

512
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080
Oh wow. 
And I was going to take what you

513
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,400
look because as you can see 
here, you can see on the camera,

514
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,040
there's no bone. 
You know me, there's no bone. 

515
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,760
But you got a good nose, man. 
This is busted. 

516
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,240
Completely busted. 
So you got bone in there and 

517
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,960
then it cracked it. 
I had a sinus problem and then 

518
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,880
this the the bone grew there and
I this it's all like this is a 

519
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,920
mid Michael Jackson nose. 
Look at that. 

520
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,320
Yeah. 
So if I get punched to the face,

521
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,920
you can't really feel it. 
Can you? 

522
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600
No, there's nothing there, just 
it's a skin. 

523
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,600
You don't need this. 
So I might get a new nose. 

524
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,320
Can I try? 
I don't know if you, you 

525
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600
probably knocked me out. 
You what you What's your weight 

526
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,640
now? 
I don't know, I'm running my fat

527
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240
fatty. 
I'm trying to take it off. 

528
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,360
It's quite hard to lose weight. 
It's hard when you get older, 

529
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,760
your body retains more. 
It's very hard. 

530
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,240
Yeah, at your age it's but you 
can still get ripped up at 42, 

531
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,040
man, you're still a baby. 
It's hard, you know, I'm finding

532
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,240
things harder now. 
Yeah, you get more tired. 

533
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,600
No, no, get more tired man. 
Like it's becoming, it becomes 

534
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000
harder. 
You know, you don't want to 

535
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,640
argue with anybody anymore. 
You just want to love everybody 

536
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,200
and. 
What What about when your your 

537
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,040
missus gives you like? 
Dale, why aren't you getting the

538
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,680
kids in the MO? 
Because I know you go for your 

539
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,080
school runs. 
Does she give you a hard time? 

540
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,400
No, she don't. 
She's a good woman. 

541
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,000
She never gives me hard time. 
She just doesn't. 

542
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,520
She likes to do it by herself. 
Well, then you're done well. 

543
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800
You know, I did a school run 
today. 

544
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,400
But have you ever met her 
parents yet? 

545
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,640
Me and her parents are good 
friends, best friends. 

546
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,400
They know that about you. 
Yeah, we're cool people. 

547
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,320
They weren't racist or anything.
No, they were. 

548
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,280
No, they were. 
No. 

549
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,320
What Trace who you brought on 
me, mate? 

550
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,640
I think they were shocked when 
they met me the first time. 

551
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040
What the fuck is this 
motherfucker shit? 

552
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800
Every president would be shocked
being a big black guy in your 

553
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040
house. 
Hey, how are you? 

554
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,360
Who the fuck is this mother? 
Heavyweight boxer, you can't 

555
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,480
even say, hey, get out of my 
house, you come near my my 

556
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,120
daughter, I'll knock you out, 
mate. 

557
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,680
You know, go to your doors, 
you're going to start dating so.

558
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,160
They're still babies though. 
They're still babies, bro. 

559
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,800
This is difficult. 
I don't know. 

560
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,040
I'm going to deal with it. 
Yeah, there's going to be. 

561
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,120
And then they're not going to 
mess with you. 

562
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,640
You go kids. 
No, no kids. 

563
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,480
I'm. 
You gay? 

564
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,680
I'm I'm straight. 
So why not his? 

565
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,040
You know, life has been hard. 
I never settle down. 

566
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,520
You know, you know what I find 
interesting about guys like 

567
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,240
yourselves, like, you know, 
everything else? 

568
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,280
You got the money, you got your 
fame and you travel the world. 

569
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,640
It's like you must have 
something. 

570
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,960
You do. 
When you go, you go out there, 

571
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,400
you see ladies, you must be 
firing in blanks because if if 

572
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,880
you haven't had the scale of 
like girls say I'm pregnant, 

573
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,560
it's quite difficult. 
I didn't say I didn't have girls

574
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,960
there, so they're pregnant, but 
I'm not, no, I deny, no, there's

575
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,080
no girls. 
But we're on camera now. 

576
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:49,040
So all the kids out there that 
have contacted me, they're not 

577
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,560
yours, they're not mine. 
That's not mine, That's not me. 

578
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,920
You might be my son. 
Maybe you're too. 

579
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,040
You're too old to be my son. 
You know what, I It might be 

580
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,520
because I don't know who my 
daddy is. 

581
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,440
I. 
Could be your dad, You could be 

582
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,360
Can I be your dad? 
But then if you just misbehave, 

583
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,480
I wouldn't be able to hit. 
You, you can be my dad, but I 

584
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,520
need pocket money. 
If you don't give me pocket 

585
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,720
what? 
I'm going to fuck you up. 

586
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,800
I think you've got more money 
than me your dad will be asking 

587
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,280
you for. 
Pocket. 

588
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,600
I need pocket money. 
Come on man, you're loaded. 

589
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,120
No. 
What's loaded? 

590
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,120
No. 
I'm not Dell boy. 

591
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:26,760
I'm not. 
Loaded. 

592
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,720
Come on man, you, you earn some 
money on those fights. 

593
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,200
You're selling out big roof. 
So you there's big boxes out 

594
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320
there that can't sell a ticket. 
Because they don't know the 

595
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,040
game. 
Yeah, entertainment. 

596
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,880
Entertainment, the game. 
The game is entertainment, you 

597
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,640
know, You know that most people 
spend money are the hard working

598
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,720
man, the guy who goes to wakes 
up in the morning, train driver,

599
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,800
electrician guy, you know this, 
the guy parking ward. 

600
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,680
And those guys spend money 
because they work and they want 

601
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,160
to have some fun. 
They want to buy tickets to 

602
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,920
fight. 
Yeah. 

603
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,920
The the everyman. 
That's the people that we played

604
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
to, the working man, the working
man, the hard workers. 

605
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,880
Rich people don't buy tickets. 
They don't buy tickets. 

606
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240
Three people say in the house 
and say fuck now, yeah. 

607
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,400
So and they watch you on a fire 
stick. 

608
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Yeah, Fire Stick. 
Cheap ass motherfuckers. 

609
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Yeah, because when you go boxing
and you look at the audiences 

610
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,960
there, so I've seen you at so 
many fights. 

611
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,160
Why can you say hello? 
I always come and say hello to 

612
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,120
you. 
I saw you when I saw you at 

613
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:27,800
Chris Eubanks last fight with 
Connor Ben. 

614
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,160
I just came up and said hello to
you. 

615
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:29,760
Did you? 
Oh. 

616
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,440
Yeah, I remember. 
What were you saying again? 

617
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,800
You were you were sitting next 
to Jason Statham. 

618
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,000
No. 
No, no, no, no, no, I wasn't. 

619
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,200
I know him. 
We go to the same doctor bar. 

620
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960
I don't know. 
He was sitting with the boss 

621
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,520
man. 
We're in. 

622
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,600
Prince Khalid. 
Prince was there. 

623
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Prince Turkey Al Sheikh. 
Turkey Al Sheikh was there? 

624
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Was it Vinny Jones? 
He comes sometimes. 

625
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,160
Was Vinny Jones. 
There, he wasn't there. 

626
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,040
The other guy was there. 
Guy Ritchie was there. 

627
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Guy Ritchie, Yeah. 
Guy Ritchie was there. 

628
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:07,400
That was a that was with Connor 
Connor Ben his fight on last 

629
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Saturday. 
It was interesting fight, but 

630
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,560
that that night was an 
interesting card because Chris 

631
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Eubank junior comes to a lot of 
my fights, a lot of my not 

632
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,640
fights shows I. 
Don't know? 

633
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320
You smoking? 
You smoking crack? 

634
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,120
Some gypsy cracking is. 
When you get to my age, you 

635
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800
can't remember if you're a 
fighter or a boxer taking too 

636
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,960
many punches. 
You're you're more coherent than

637
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:39,120
I am now. 
But what do you think that 

638
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,800
people say you're a diet And the
Five guys thing, people ask 

639
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800
them, are you sponsored by them?
No. 

640
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,920
You're not even sponsored by 
them. 

641
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,200
No. 
Come on, man. 

642
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,160
It's five guys, man. 
You know I. 

643
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,320
Thought you were going to bring 
five guys into the studio and 

644
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,640
put them around. 
Man, I can phone five guys while

645
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,160
I will get delivered, is it? 
Yeah, that's the relationship I 

646
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,880
got with them. 
And and junk food. 

647
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Junk food. 
What's junk food? 

648
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,320
People say that you eat a lot of
junk food. 

649
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,000
Me. 
No, I don't. 

650
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Is it no running young? 
You think Five Guys not junk 

651
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,680
food? 
It's not it's not junk food. 

652
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,800
Is it healthy? 
It's healthy. 

653
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
I mean, like, what are you going
to get? 

654
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Yeah. 
Beef burger. 

655
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Yeah, with ketchup and a bit of 
salad at the same time. 

656
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Yeah. 
And and and and and some carbs. 

657
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,840
That's true. 
That's true. 

658
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,480
That's what's. 
Best fries out there though. 

659
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Exactly. 
Those fries, I mean, like, I 

660
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,320
mean like, those fries are real 
potatoes. 

661
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Are they real? 
Real potatoes, yeah, different 

662
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,320
number of franchise, but those 
are real potatoes and if you if 

663
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440
you want to, if you if you get 
there and you order your burger,

664
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,760
you're waiting for your burger 
you're going to have some nuts, 

665
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,240
some Roux and. 
They're in the shell. 

666
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,400
Yeah, exactly. 
So it's not, it's not junk food,

667
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280
it's very good food. 
Yeah. 

668
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,280
But you for someone to go from 
that diet, they say, you know, 

669
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,840
you can be in a couple of 
leaves, a little bit of chicken 

670
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,080
on there, some protein and some 
leaves and some leaves and some 

671
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560
protein, but you go against that
grain. 

672
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
But I say as a heavyweight you 
can get bigger. 

673
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,560
You know, that's why I'm finding
hard you get bigger and you 

674
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,560
don't get bigger and your 
stomach gets bigger for us and 

675
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,160
that's how your legs get bigger.
We're still looking lean though.

676
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Yes, because I've I haven't 
stopped training you keep I only

677
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,440
two. 
Well, after the fight I only 

678
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,000
took a week off and I started 
training right for my own mind 

679
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,240
as well. 
Yeah, yeah. 

680
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,400
And just stay active. 
You drink coffee. 

681
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,960
Yeah, I drink about four. 
Coffee. 

682
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Is it? 
Yeah, and I drink much as well. 

683
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Yeah, much is good. 
I've got my own supplements warm

684
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240
piece but I have to plug that in
there. 

685
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,000
I've got War and Peace coming 
out. 

686
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Yeah, it's all turn. 
Yeah. 

687
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,520
Talk to me, I'll put some war 
and peace. 

688
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Around, I'll send you some I'll.
Stick some up here. 

689
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,320
War and Peace. 
I'll send you some. 

690
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,560
Deontay Wilder was a split 
decision April 2026. 

691
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,960
You proved your absolute 
durability and again went the 

692
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,120
lock the distance with arguably 
one of the greatest punches of 

693
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,320
all time and be at that fight 
I've been waiting for for 15 

694
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,080
years, the Wilder fight, and you
even said that we've been 

695
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,520
waiting for this for ages. 
Yes, the guy can punch, but 

696
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,480
afterwards this is but. 
He didn't get you really with 

697
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,040
anything. 
No, he did not. 

698
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,240
He never rocked you at one 
point. 

699
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000
I felt it by you. 
You don't show it all. 

700
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Yeah, I've never said, and I've 
been quite a few of your fights 

701
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,760
and there aren't many. 
You've got a chin. 

702
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Thank you. 
Where does that come from? 

703
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,800
It's the legs. 
You get hit, you ride it bro. 

704
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,640
You don't go with it because 
you're going to get knocked 

705
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,000
down. 
Yeah, because you've got the 

706
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,520
face where it kind of like the 
chin is, is hefty, isn't it? 

707
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Right, Yeah. 
I mean like every those things 

708
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
when you get hit by between, get
knocked down, it's a punch you 

709
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,120
don't see which knocks you out. 
Well, I was at the Dylan White 

710
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,960
second. 
Yeah. 

711
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,680
So I didn't see that one left. 
Yeah. 

712
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680
So when he when I left to come 
went to sleep. 

713
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,960
You went to sleep, but you 
weren't out for that long. 

714
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,600
No, I went to sleep by this. 
This this weather when you get 

715
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,840
knocked out? 
Yeah. 

716
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,400
It went. 
Quiet. 

717
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160
No, no, we weren't quiet. 
But I wanted to explain to 

718
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,200
everybody at home, man, that 
your mind plays tricks on your 

719
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,480
fucking legs, bro. 
Yeah. 

720
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,520
I go knocked out. 
Yeah. 

721
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,040
And I'm like, I can't get up. 
Yeah, I'm like, let's get up. 

722
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,040
And my legs are like, Nope, 
we're not getting up. 

723
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,920
I'm like I can get up and I'm 
really seeing the ref 1-2. 

724
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,200
I'm like I'm up, I'm up, I'm up.
I'm trying to get up here but my

725
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,480
legs were not moving. 
So you were conscious? 

726
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,480
No, I was up. 
I was trying to. 

727
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,680
I was up like my my neck was up.
So you weren't sleeping? 

728
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160
4 I'm like, I can get up and 
it's honey. 

729
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,680
He's like going everybody jumped
on because now the fights are 

730
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,000
all OK, fine. 
That was a good shot though from

731
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,760
Dylan. 
I think that was the last, you 

732
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600
know, that was the peak of his 
career. 

733
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,600
Do you think so? 
I don't know. 

734
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,080
He's just made some stupid 
decisions. 

735
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,520
And you know, I always find 
people who move out of London 

736
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400
trying to save money and then 
they go live in different 

737
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,520
countries. 
They don't win fights. 

738
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,960
He lives in Portugal. 
I mean, so many fighters have 

739
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,600
like moved to Dubai to go train 
there and then suddenly they go 

740
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,600
fight, they don't win cheer. 
Everyone's been to Dubai now. 

741
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,960
Not anymore, no. 
No, no, not now. 

742
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,159
Not anymore. 
Iran ain't helping that new that

743
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,520
move. 
I think it's not Iranians, I 

744
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,400
think it's just Americans and 
their friends, but it is what it

745
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,920
is. 
I love Americans, yeah. 

746
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,400
Yeah, I love Americans too. 
I love the American. 

747
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,960
Which ones? 
Trump. 

748
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,720
I like Trump. 
I have to say that because. 

749
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,000
I'm going there. 
He's such a. 

750
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,920
I won't get into the country 
otherwise, so I just want to say

751
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,240
all the American. 
People, should I get you Dufour?

752
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Here you got a ice. 
Ice got me removed last time. 

753
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,560
Ice. 
In January I did a tour on the 

754
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,040
ice. 
There was a big storm and there 

755
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,480
was 6 inches of ice. 
Oh. 

756
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:32,840
My I'm like what? 
That's my opening joke in 

757
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,080
America. 
Yeah. 

758
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,960
You like it? 
That's a good one. 

759
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,600
You can have that actually. 
I can use it. 

760
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,000
I leave the jokes to you. 
I can't. 

761
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,880
I ain't got. 
But you, you come up with the 

762
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,560
best jokes, man. 
I still watch your present. 

763
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,520
I watch love your press 
conferences without the fights 

764
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,360
in the face of. 
Oh yeah. 

765
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,760
It's just madness though. 
It's crazy. 

766
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000
The Vitali Kwichko fight was 
2012. 

767
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,920
You went 12 rounds with Vitali 
for the WBC title. 

768
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,760
It's famously where you slapped 
Vitali at the weigh in and spat 

769
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200
water in Vladimir Klitschko's 
face in the ring. 

770
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,320
Who can forget that? 
You still talk. 

771
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,840
You talk to those Vitali guys. 
No, my bummed into one. 

772
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,880
I mean, I beat a long time. 
Ago you're right with you, now 

773
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,120
you're. 
Right, but we don't really talk.

774
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,440
They're not my friends like and 
say hey, let's have breakfast. 

775
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,920
They're at war now, isn't it? 
Yeah, man, it's just crazy, man.

776
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,360
What's happening? 
There's war in Europe, there's 

777
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,760
war in the Middle East, there's 
war in in Africa. 

778
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,720
That's crazy. 
After 2001, my life changed 

779
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:42,080
because then, because then every
then the nobody was scared of 

780
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,880
black people anymore, they were 
scared of brown people. 

781
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,040
Yeah. 
We became, I used to do a joke 

782
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,600
in the black. 
We became the new black people. 

783
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,120
But you. 
But you never get you never get 

784
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Jamaican people hijacking a 
plane. 

785
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Why? 
Because they missed the flight 

786
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,320
playing gun route. 
Why? 

787
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,920
You know, I tell you what, Yeah.
I went to Ghana. 

788
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,800
Yeah. 
OK. 

789
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,280
Yeah, I was going to Ghana. 
KD is promoting a fight in 

790
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Ghana. 
Yeah. 

791
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,080
So I'm late. 
Yeah, this is Heathrow. 

792
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Yeah. 
So I'm checking. 

793
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
I'm like, I'm let it go. 
We I'm like, I'm getting Ghana. 

794
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,200
And they're like, oh, don't 
worry. 

795
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,480
You know what you mean. 
The flight's going to leave with

796
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040
1:30. 
This is around 1:00. 

797
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,960
Like, don't worry, I'm running 
to the other terminal, Terminal 

798
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,000
4. 
I'm sweating. 

799
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,560
I get there. 
The flight meant to leave at 

800
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,120
1:30. 
We left at 4:00. 

801
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,920
Really. 
Yeah. 

802
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,280
And I said why they go. 
This is one of the planes which 

803
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,640
takes so long to load because 
everybody brings 2 bags. 

804
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,080
Each. 
Yeah. 

805
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Why did they travel with so 
much? 

806
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,040
I mean, and Nigerians like 17 
he's. 

807
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Open. 
He's open about Nigerians. 

808
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,240
It's an African thing. 
Indians as well. 

809
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,400
Yeah, it's an African. 55 
suitcases. 

810
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,280
Like for me, if I travel for 
four 3-4 days, I take 2 

811
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,680
suitcases. 
I thought they were moving home.

812
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,080
I take 2 suitcases, yeah. 
That's a bit. 

813
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,280
You're a boxy. 
It's different. 

814
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,040
No, but some of the stuff I'm 
taking I don't even wear it. 

815
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,680
Yeah, that's what I do. 
And if I'm just taking in case 

816
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,640
in this, is that always in case 
if I have to go somewhere here? 

817
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,400
I went away to Monaco for three 
days. 

818
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
I took about two suitcases. 
Is it for two days? 

819
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:28,280
Yeah, because I'm like in. 
Case some of my white friends 

820
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,400
just take a toothbrush I'm like 
where's the suitcase you see me 

821
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,040
bag my. 
Yeah, that's it. 

822
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,760
Like what? 
Are you going to wear? 

823
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,840
Why I'm wearing, Why have people
got it easy? 

824
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,240
Yeah, they got well, we got to 
this whole thing of life to wear

825
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,720
this on this day. 
And your, your. 

826
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,880
Your beauty products, your eye 
cream, your. 

827
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Do you do that? 
I don't do that. 

828
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,400
I don't do all that. 
That's not me. 

829
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,280
What because? 
How do you look like this 

830
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560
without all that? 
This is water. 

831
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:52,000
You drink a lot of. 
Water. 

832
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,880
Yeah, and some and some 
Vaseline. 

833
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,640
That's it. 
Nothing else. 

834
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,440
Or cocoa butter. 
All that Vaseline they put on 

835
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,280
your face during the fight has 
clearly helped. 

836
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Man, you need that shit because 
them punches, they'll be 

837
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,760
sliding. 
Off. 

838
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,040
You need that I. 
Hope you're enjoying the podcast

839
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,080
so far. 
Just a reminder, this show is 

840
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,760
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841
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843
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844
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,360
Vladimir Klitschko, that was a 
period people were quite 

845
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,520
disappointed by in heavyweight 
boxing. 

846
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,200
Yeah, a bit. 
Boring because there was a point

847
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,840
of like, they were controlling 
everything in the sense of he 

848
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,160
probably had the IBMWBO and 
everything and they only chose 

849
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,920
the opponents they wanted to 
fight because they were paying 

850
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,680
off. 
Oh, really? 

851
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,760
Yeah. 
And then I think the game 

852
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:52,360
changer was when this one boxing
opened. 

853
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,120
It was New York City. 
I don't know what happened. 

854
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,480
Vladimir was supposed to fight 
somebody for the for the IBF, 

855
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,960
and he went to, I forgot his 
name, this black kid and a 

856
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Russian kid. 
Yeah, I forgot the names. 

857
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,920
Anyway, it's same guy, AJB for 
the IBF, right? 

858
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:26,520
First time he won it, they had a
fight and one of them pulled out

859
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,720
because one of them broke, 
messed up his knees in the 

860
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:34,680
fight. 
And then at the end, so the 

861
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,800
opportunity made the fight for 
this guy with AJ at Wembley. 

862
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,680
Do you remember when AJ became 
the IBF? 

863
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,960
It was No, it was, no, it was O2
Arena. 

864
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,240
O2. 
Yeah. 

865
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480
That's what's that's when the 
game game changed. 

866
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,520
Yeah. 
Do you understand if you, if you

867
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,280
look at the whole pattern when 
Eddie had brought the heavy way 

868
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,400
back because everybody else was 
trying it but it wasn't 

869
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,920
happening? 
Yeah, yeah, because there was 

870
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
that long period. 
Long period after. 

871
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,520
The Tyson era. 
Yeah, long period. 

872
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:15,720
And then that happened and then 
Tyson was getting rematch with 

873
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,560
the with the Klitschko didn't 
happen when in the press. 

874
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,640
It's it's boxing is a mad, mad, 
mad ass game. 

875
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,200
But the good thing about boxing 
is, is very clean business. 

876
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,320
It's not. 
There's no corruption. 

877
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,960
What? 
Fuck that, you mad? 

878
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Like it's a very ethical 
business. 

879
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Nobody messes about with anyone 
financially. 

880
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,160
There's so much corruption. 
There's so much corruption in 

881
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,200
boxing. 
That's what I like about boxing,

882
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,280
is like the corruption. 
Sofa it wasn't. 

883
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Like everyone gets the right 
amount of money. 

884
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Nobody gets ripped off can give 
us a. 

885
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,800
Clean Business. 
I'm getting one sense because 

886
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,600
you're saying these words, but 
you know you don't give me a I'm

887
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,160
trying to understand it. 
You know, like all these 

888
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,160
promoters would never dream of 
ripping off boxes. 

889
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,880
That's the good thing about 
boxes you guys have. 

890
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,640
No, but, but you have to 
understand this. 

891
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,360
Yeah. 
When we say ripping off, yeah. 

892
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,640
Listen, there's a there's a 
thing. 

893
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600
I was on, on, on, on, on, on, 
on. 

894
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,560
When you join TikTok, the guy 
goes corruption is bad. 

895
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,400
Yeah, corruption is so bad if 
I'm not involved in it, but if 

896
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,160
I'm involved in it, it's good. 
There's no corruption. 

897
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,240
Yeah, it's not corruption. 
So the same thing as scamming 

898
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,720
fighters? 
Yeah, it's bad as long as the 

899
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,200
fighters are. 
Do you understand? 

900
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,600
Yeah, everybody. 
There's so much money in boxing 

901
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,480
bro. 
Ridiculous money and now the 

902
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,160
sheikhs are involved. 
Yeah, he's he's. 

903
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,240
Taken to another level. 
He he bought his, you know, I'm.

904
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,800
Sport boxing. 
No, he's hasn't bought boxing 

905
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,920
doesn't. 
He on Ring magazine now. 

906
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,400
He owns Ring Magazine. 
That's good, because Ring 

907
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Magazine was not doing any much 
by. 

908
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,160
In the 80s, yeah. 
I mean, like, since he bought 

909
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,920
Ring magazine, we've gone to 
Saudi, New York, you know, 

910
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:10,400
London, you know, for, for Ring 
Magazine awards, you know, 

911
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,240
hopefully these guys never had a
lobster pasta driving a lobster 

912
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:18,080
pasta for, for takey out shake, 
you know, So, so you have to 

913
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920
understand the since since he's 
gone and he's came into boxing, 

914
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,520
he's giving us, he's giving us 
some serious fights, you know, 

915
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,800
so you have to just give credit,
man. 

916
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,360
They they're an interesting 
crowd there in Saudi Arabia 

917
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,800
where they watch boxing. 
They're not as loud as British 

918
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,560
people call. 
My son is a Yeah, but you? 

919
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,840
Have to understand is that in 
Saudi there's no alcohol. 

920
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,480
It's all. 
Halal. 

921
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Halal, yeah. 
Yo-yo, yo-yo, you're halal, 

922
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,160
aren't? 
You. 

923
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,560
I'm sick. 
You see? 

924
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,560
Oh, how come you don't have the?
Didn't have the turban because I

925
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
grew up in the 70s and 80s. 
So you're not, you're not sick 

926
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,920
because you're not sick. 
Practicing sick. 

927
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000
You're practicing sick. 
Well, I don't wear the are. 

928
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,920
You really sick? 
Is he Christian? 

929
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,080
Is he Muslim? 
What's the? 

930
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Seeker. 
Sikh. 

931
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,520
What do you pray to? 
The 10 Gurus. 10 gurus. 

932
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,080
OK, cool. 
So we have that, Yeah. 

933
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,680
It's like, yeah, it's his own 
religion. 

934
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920
OK, so one of the newest 
religions in the world. 

935
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Is there? 
What about you? 

936
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,640
I'm Christian. 
Is it You're born again? 

937
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,840
Born again. 
Christian. 

938
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,400
Yeah, born again, 8 years old, 
but don't even pork for the last

939
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,000
eight years. 
Mashallah, yeah. 

940
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:24,800
No pork. 
No pork A. 

941
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,760
Lot of people thought you were 
Muslim. 

942
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,960
No, no, I'm not no more. 
What I liked is when you did the

943
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,400
interview with Piers Morgan. 
Yeah. 

944
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,520
And you called him the C word. 
Yeah. 

945
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920
That was very funny. 
That went viral as well. 

946
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,320
Didn't I? 
Didn't even know. 

947
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,640
That went viral and. 
I don't know. 

948
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,080
I didn't. 
That's. 

949
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Huge because that was the fight 
week, right? 

950
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,720
So you probably concentrate on 
the fight. 

951
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600
But when it comes to the Epstein
island. 

952
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,360
Oh yeah, that's that's not my 
thing. 

953
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,120
Yeah, I want to be. 
I've asked my agent to put me on

954
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,800
the Epstein list. 
Why? 

955
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,760
Because it's very good for your 
career. 

956
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,000
But you know, like. 
I tell you why you don't want to

957
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,840
be on our list. 
Because you're not white. 

958
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,000
You don't have blue. 
Yeah, no, I want to be in the 

959
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,720
good list. 
No, you're not white. 

960
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,200
Anything you this enough for? 
Those motherfuckers are all 

961
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,280
white. 
But is anyone going to jail? 

962
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:21,520
No, because that there's no such
thing as a white paedophile in. 

963
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,560
There. 
Yeah, exactly. 

964
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,680
They all white, blue eyes in No,
no, I'm going to go to jail. 

965
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,960
None of them are going to get 
arrested. 

966
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,480
Piers Morgan because he met her.
Gillane Maxwell a couple of a 

967
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,680
book launch, he said he met her 
at Booklaws. 

968
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,280
That's why he's on the in the 
files because he met her. 

969
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,920
So I want to be on that list, 
the good list, not the bad list,

970
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,480
not the molesting list. 
I want to be on the I want to be

971
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,240
on the list where I met them 
somewhere. 

972
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,000
And then for the PRI. 
See, this is a diversion for 

973
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,320
some of them, big bro. 
So you think Piers Morgan was on

974
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,160
the dodgy list? 
I. 

975
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Mean if you're on that list, 
bro, there's something going on.

976
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,640
Because I know Piers is a friend
of yours, he says he's. 

977
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,120
No, I'm friends. 
I'm not friends with him yet. 

978
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,600
I'll be friends with him one 
day. 

979
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,240
Yeah, he, he kind of tweeted. 
He said, oh he's you're my mate.

980
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,840
He's my mate, mate, I will be 
friends one day. 

981
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,400
He's into his boxing isn't. 
It he loves boxing so you sure 

982
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,320
you want to go on? 
That just a good list, not the 

983
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,120
bad list. 
Angry you're not listening. 

984
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,800
Can you put him on the list 
again? 

985
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,840
That's it. 
You go viral. 

986
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,320
You. 
When they knock down on your 

987
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,480
door and they see you on the 
list, don't be fucking start 

988
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,360
crying bro. 
I was just joking Derek. 

989
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,680
Don't be start crying because 
everybody, everybody says they 

990
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,160
want something. 
When it happens, they decide 

991
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,200
shit in their pants. 
Then they bring this podcast 

992
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,640
back up. 
So you said on this podcast to 

993
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,720
Derek Chiseler that you'd like 
to be and Lee Epstein is. 

994
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,800
You basically admitted guilt. 
Guilt. 

995
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,400
And then no, no, no, I was. 
Joking and then that's it. 

996
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,600
We can't joke about those 
things. 

997
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,000
You. 
Can't. 

998
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,000
You can't. 
You can't joke about. 

999
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,680
That so obviously in 20. 
I was at the 2018 Dylan White 

1000
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,240
fight. 
There were brutal fights, man. 

1001
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,280
Entertainment heavyweight is 
finest in the modern era. 

1002
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,680
They say you've been in some of 
the greatest wars in the modern 

1003
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,080
era. 
The build up to the 2016 fight 

1004
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,240
is when you picked up that table
and just lunged it at the man. 

1005
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680
And why, why, why does white 
call himself white? 

1006
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:19,000
If he's black, Why do you think 
he's is? 

1007
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,040
He thinks he's white. 
Yeah, because I think his 

1008
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,320
granddad was slaved by a white 
person. 

1009
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,640
His name was White. 
Oh, is it? 

1010
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Is that where it comes from? 
Yeah, that's why I'm called 

1011
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Chaudhary. 
Tell me, maybe you do you 

1012
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,480
understand? 
We were colonised in the by. 

1013
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,600
British, Yeah. 
So. 

1014
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,040
So you don't have your own last 
name. 

1015
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,920
Paul. 
My first name is Paul. 

1016
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,920
Yeah, I see that. 
Yeah, and Derek as well. 

1017
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,200
Derek's not a Zimbabwean name. 
That's not my uncle gave me that

1018
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:47,920
name. 
Yeah. 

1019
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,240
What's your Zimbabwean name? 
I don't have one, never got one.

1020
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,760
I'm we'll cut that bit out if 
you don't understand. 

1021
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,400
No, never got one. 
Is it? 

1022
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,080
No, I'll be honest with you. 
No, I got 1. 

1023
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,480
So my last name is Chizora. 
That's it. 

1024
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Del Chizora. 
Because when it comes to Brexit,

1025
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,240
Derek, Del Boy, I remember when 
you used to walk, drive around 

1026
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:11,240
in that Del Boy car. 
Me, I never had that car. 

1027
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:12,840
Only fools and horses one never 
had it. 

1028
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400
Who's was that then? 
I think it was Ricky Hatton one 

1029
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,240
it. 
Was Ricky Hatton's. 

1030
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,760
One, yeah, because Ricky was. 
We loved the Only Fools and 

1031
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,760
Horses, but everybody loved 
Fools and Horses. 

1032
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,920
What a show. 
What a show. 

1033
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,360
What a great show that was. 
Yeah, good old days, mate. 

1034
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,440
Oh, I mean because. 
That's what they talk about in 

1035
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,880
it like the Brexiteer, like 
Nigel Farage, and talk about the

1036
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,040
good old days, America to the 
good old days. 

1037
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,440
What's the good old days? 
That was when it was just us 

1038
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,160
white people here and knew lot 
never came here yet. 

1039
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,200
So that have you been to the 
East End? 

1040
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,960
Yeah. 
Westland. 

1041
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,800
It's like fucking Bangladesh 
down there. 

1042
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:49,640
You'll be born. 
Is it? 

1043
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,520
The Bengalis it used to be. 
I mean, I gave you been to the 

1044
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,120
East End. 
Yeah, was was was fucked up. 

1045
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,680
It's well in White Chapel that 
when I used to go to East End to

1046
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,160
do shows back in the late 90s, 
it was rough. 

1047
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,360
Yeah. 
Now you can't find a flat there 

1048
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,640
for less than two 3 million. 
That's how I am because when we 

1049
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,280
do white. 
Chapel. 

1050
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,240
When we drove through there, 
man, it was like tents 

1051
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:13,520
everywhere. 
The tents. 

1052
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Yeah. 
Tents. 

1053
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,720
No. 
No, at least 10. 

1054
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,720
Yeah, it was bad. 
What are the tents doing there? 

1055
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:19,200
I. 
Don't even know selling stuff in

1056
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,240
there so. 
You wouldn't even get your car 

1057
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:22,560
in the Eastern. 
Come with me, you'll be safe. 

1058
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,240
I'm safe or I go. 
The Bengalis know me everywhere.

1059
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,040
Man, I'm safe. 
Where am I going? 

1060
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,280
And I'm safe. 
Derek, if anyone gives you any 

1061
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,920
trouble anytime, I'm going to 
give you my number. 

1062
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,920
You know what I'm going to do? 
I'm going to get a picture saved

1063
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,880
vote for Nigel Farage. 
I'm going to walk around 

1064
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,000
worrying. 
That might. 

1065
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,080
I think that might not work. 
Why not? 

1066
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,880
If you get trouble, you just say
my name in East End. 

1067
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,040
OK, so Are you sure? 
Let's cut this for the podcast. 

1068
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,640
But a lot of people I'm, you 
know, I'm a known G in that. 

1069
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,200
Area. 
Are you sure you can say no 

1070
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,840
more? 
Anytime because you don't want 

1071
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,640
to get into Iraq. 
Right, I like fighting. 

1072
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,520
But there was a video that there
was a stream. 

1073
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,240
That that delivery. 
Driver. 

1074
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:09,920
What happened with him? 
You got fucked up. 

1075
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,920
But he was a bit out of order, 
he started. 

1076
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,320
You don't mind. 
You can't ride your bike. 

1077
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,800
You see this? 
This is a message on delivery 

1078
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,960
drivers. 
Yes, you're working. 

1079
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,960
You can't ride on a pavement and
expect me to move out of 

1080
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,480
pavement because you want to 
ride your bike. 

1081
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Pavements are meant for people 
to walk by. 

1082
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,480
If you're recycling on the 
pavement, where do we walk? 

1083
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,920
That's a good point. 
Yeah, it's not fair. 

1084
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,760
So no, motherfucker got fucked 
up. 

1085
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,000
But I didn't fuck him up because
I asked him, can you come off 

1086
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
your bike, please? 
Just push your bike. 

1087
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,920
And he start barking and then he
was trying to go for my go for a

1088
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,520
punch. 
He didn't know who you were. 

1089
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,800
You know. 
He didn't know. 

1090
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,520
He's a guy was stupid because he
saw me saying with lots of white

1091
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,320
people, he thought I was one of 
those black white man. 

1092
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Why Do you know what happened? 
So you're Dylan White? 

1093
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,040
Yeah, exactly. 
Derek White, I. 

1094
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Thought you were Derek White. 
Derek White so mad to smoke him.

1095
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:07,880
Yeah, that video went viral as 
well. 

1096
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,280
Yeah, and you go viral more than
comedians. 

1097
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,360
Yeah, because I know what to do.
I'll teach you. 

1098
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,120
I'll give you something can. 
You teach me how to go viral. 

1099
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Give you some tricks I. 
Need to sell tickets? 

1100
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,040
Yeah, you need to teach me what 
to do. 

1101
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,200
And we couldn't make some 
videos. 

1102
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,280
What are your next show? 
America. 

1103
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,000
America, you doing one in 
London? 

1104
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,400
I want to come back to I did the
O2 last year, Wembley, nice 

1105
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,840
Birmingham Arena. 
Yeah. 

1106
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,960
But we need to maybe get you out
on my shows. 

1107
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,000
Have you thought about stand up?
Nothing that'll Boo me on the 

1108
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,560
jokes. 
My jokes are not that good. 

1109
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,760
I'm not that funny. 
And I think you're very 

1110
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,440
charismatic on on the mic. 
I don't know that's what. 

1111
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,040
The 2020 incident where you 
pushed Alexander Osek and you 

1112
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,200
marched him down with 12 rounds.
Yeah, if I was hard. 

1113
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Not many people have done that. 
If I was hard, is it? 

1114
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,400
Yeah. 
It was a difficult fight. 

1115
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,880
It was in lockdown. 
Now imagine now lockdown. 

1116
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,360
There's no one in the arena. 
Yeah, quiet. 

1117
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,040
It's quiet. 
You can hear the punches 

1118
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,200
yourself. 
It was very hard. 

1119
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:16,000
Yeah. 
It was a hard fight, but it. 

1120
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Was very close though. 
Yeah, that's why he never gave 

1121
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,000
me a rematch. 
Yeah, that's why he never gave 

1122
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,600
it that. 
Yeah, one day in each alone. 

1123
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,120
That's the thing about boxing is
there's a little bit of luck 

1124
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,480
involved sometimes as well in 
it. 

1125
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Yeah, but I never had luck in 
boxing, you understand. 

1126
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,560
Nobody else has had luck up off 
of me. 

1127
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,400
Had what? 
Like luck? 

1128
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,800
Yeah. 
You know. 

1129
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,880
Life is no, yeah, I think I I I 
would say, I would say you're a 

1130
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,360
lucky man coming and started. 
Late. 

1131
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,040
I'm very stubborn to understand.
I don't want I don't want to 

1132
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,960
work hard on to get it. 
Yeah, don't just leave it 

1133
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,640
because most people listen to 
their families. 

1134
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,720
Oh, it's time. 
And then they feel sorry for 

1135
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:04,080
themselves. 
Yeah, then we've been telling 

1136
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,520
you to retire for years. 
Yeah, people want me to retire. 

1137
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,840
I'm going to retire sooner. 
Yeah. 

1138
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,960
But I think you've got a lot 
more business opportunities up 

1139
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,640
your sleeve. 
I might become a comedian. 

1140
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,800
Take over your space. 
You know what, I don't know if 

1141
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,400
you'll take over, but because in
in the comedy, I'm not one of 

1142
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,080
the heavyweights, so it would be
a role reversal. 

1143
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,920
I might give it a crack. 
Let me let me go home first. 

1144
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,640
Let me write some stuff I. 
Think me when you should do a 

1145
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,640
face like we know that table 
when they talk. 

1146
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,120
What's that thing called? 
The the the gloves are off, so 

1147
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,360
we're going to do comedy face. 
Off me and you together in the 

1148
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,880
dark room, but where you flip 
the tables. 

1149
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,600
Would you be open? 
Why would you be open in line to

1150
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,040
me? 
I don't know, Derek. 

1151
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,320
What can you do to me? 
You know, it's something like 

1152
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:52,560
that. 
I'll. 

1153
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Say your hair shit. 
This is real hair. 

1154
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,360
You know shit. 
People think people think I'm 

1155
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,840
wearing a wig are. 
They were. 

1156
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,080
Are you serious? 
You've had his hair stuff for 

1157
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,320
almost. 55 years now. 
Jesus Christ. 

1158
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,840
So you you wake up in the 
morning and you comb me and you 

1159
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:15,760
push on the side. 
You know what you do? 

1160
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,360
Do you like it? 
That's quite cool. 

1161
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,200
What's up? 
OK, you go to the bubbles and 

1162
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,640
say to the bubble, what? 
What's the What's that called? 

1163
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,600
I don't know, I just like shave 
the sides. 

1164
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,600
As you can see, there's a bit 
grey here. 

1165
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,960
Yeah, but what you call it, 
because if I go in there, I say 

1166
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,720
I'll give me a bald head shave. 
Yeah, use. #2 you normally 

1167
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,920
shave, it isn't. 
It I say yeah, I say use #1 

1168
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,400
keeper #1 but you won't want I. 
Just say like do like like 0 on 

1169
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,680
the side and 55 on the top. 
So you see most people say I 

1170
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,560
want to comb over. 
So you do side side comb over. 

1171
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:52,400
So it just covers up all the 
bald spots, all all all the all 

1172
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,080
the have you. 
Ever you, you can. 

1173
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,440
You can bowl into me. 
That's why you're hiding. 

1174
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,800
Here so this is a comb over. 
It's a comb over to hide A bow 

1175
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,160
patch, right? 
Well, as I saw it. 

1176
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,720
You can see it here. 
Yeah. 

1177
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,200
You see it? 
It's a comb over. 

1178
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,080
Yeah, it's the best comb over 
you've seen. 

1179
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,880
So you to hide it because. 
You can get the tablets and I 

1180
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,800
take the tablets, but then you 
don't get a boner anymore. 

1181
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,600
The tablets messes you up 
because they give you long 

1182
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,800
fingernails because Jeremy Piven
was taken last year. 

1183
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,600
Oh, I know Jeremy Piven. 
How do you know him? 

1184
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,760
Jeremy, Jeremy, my boy. 
Yeah, yeah, he started stand up 

1185
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,200
as well. 
Now my. 

1186
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,920
Boy, he's, you know, Jeremy is 
so talented, bro. 

1187
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,920
One day goes to me. 
I'm going to do a film, but I'm 

1188
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,720
going to play a tap dancer 
caught by the Nazis during the 

1189
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:42,280
World War and stuff like that. 
So we're saying this is a joke? 

1190
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,760
Yeah. 
And then I think it was last 

1191
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,480
year, the fun came out by the 
guy that went out to tap dance. 

1192
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,640
And I go, what do you do? 
He goes, listen, I have two 

1193
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,880
glasses for six months tap 
dancing. 

1194
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,600
He's good at it now. 
Yeah, Entourage, It was a big 

1195
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,880
breakthrough for the guy. 
Entourage was a big breakthrough

1196
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,680
for half of them, but it was 
good diner. 

1197
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,280
Yeah, it was a good show. 
Now, you had a big problem with 

1198
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,880
with R Kelly a long time ago. 
R Kelly who? 

1199
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,280
You, you had a problem. 
He had a big fight with R Kelly.

1200
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Who's R Kelly? 
Sorry, David Haye. 

1201
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,560
You called him R Kelly. 
How did you call him? 

1202
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,000
How did you call him right now 
saying Brav, this guy's calling 

1203
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,440
you R Kelly. 
He had a fight at my show. 

1204
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,800
In it he came to my Apollo show 
and. 

1205
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,800
He had a fight. 
Well, some guy who kept I spoke 

1206
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,520
about this, where he went to 
court when the people kept on 

1207
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,640
hassling him and then he grabbed
him. 

1208
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,960
Oh, that. 
Was your show. 

1209
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,520
That was my show. 
Fuck, I'm definitely what are 

1210
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,320
white guys? 
All Indian, I think. 

1211
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,040
Oh. 
My see this should probably you 

1212
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,280
Indians man, causing trouble 
wherever you go, Indians. 

1213
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,200
They like to touch, they like to
touch. 

1214
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,480
And David? 
He probably didn't like to be 

1215
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,160
touched. 
Oh, so now I don't want to go to

1216
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,240
a show because if I come I'm 
going to get into trouble. 

1217
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,800
You get touched a lot by a lot 
of men. 

1218
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,720
I'm not coming. 
A lot of men will touch you. 

1219
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,520
So it was just shocks. 
I remember you got arrested for 

1220
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,840
that. 
I don't know. 

1221
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,120
If you got arrested, would you 
get arrested? 

1222
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:11,600
Yeah, I Kelly is it. 
I don't call you and say, oh, 

1223
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,600
you don't like Kelly do any 
piss. 

1224
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,760
Because I've known David since 
he was a Calvin Klein model. 

1225
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,720
Yeah, when he used to hang 
around at Leicester Square 

1226
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,560
McDonald's, like in the early 
2000s. 

1227
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Wow, the bare galleys to deal 
with. 

1228
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,200
And I used to know him from 
those days, if kind of early 

1229
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,560
boxing before. 
Did you ever take any scrubs of 

1230
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,400
him? 
Of him? 

1231
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,840
No, I just said to say hello to 
him. 

1232
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Goodbye. 
But even like you know, he's 

1233
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,080
saying all of the girls, you 
take any. 

1234
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Oh, no, no, no. 
Why not? 

1235
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,480
No, no, apparently he teethed 
Andrew Tate's missus. 

1236
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Did he? 
Andrew Tate had a girlfriend. 

1237
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,080
She left Andrew Tate for him. 
She must be disappointed right 

1238
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,360
now, the girl. 
Also, that's the origin story 

1239
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,080
from Andrew Tate or one of his, 
because he was just a normal guy

1240
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,160
then and the reason he's become 
so toxic was because he teethed.

1241
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,280
You know, the real godfather is 
David Haye. 

1242
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,920
It was teefing yell. 
And what's that? 

1243
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,800
What's Andrew Tate going to do 
to David Haye? 

1244
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,240
Maybe kickboxing his ass? 
I don't think you could take 

1245
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,720
him. 
You didn't mean so no did. 

1246
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,960
You see that last fight, Andrew 
Tate. 

1247
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,000
He's a top G. 
Come on man. 

1248
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,600
Why not? 
You could bust that guy up. 

1249
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,600
He did well. 
He hasn't boxed for years, did 

1250
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,800
well, he did well. 
He has the credit where credit 

1251
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,960
is he did well. 
Yeah, I mean for me to 

1252
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,040
criticize, but what do you think
of his content? 

1253
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,360
I'm not into his content either,
but he doesn't know how to 

1254
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:45,080
create a viral moment. 
Listen, people like it. 

1255
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:50,200
Some people don't like it. 
Also, just for the record, up on

1256
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,160
various charges, he's up on 
various charges. 

1257
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,120
Is he? 
He could. 

1258
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,200
He could go down as well, yeah. 
Nothing. 

1259
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,600
Like Bill Cosby? 
Exactly. 

1260
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,240
You know, I remember when I was 
with Bill Cosby and I don't 

1261
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,560
remember just chatting to him. 
And then I just remember waking 

1262
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:11,360
up about two days later. 
Not still what happened? 

1263
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,160
Well, you also. 
Suddenly didn't feel right. 

1264
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,160
Oh my goodness. 
But nearly everyone, that one. 

1265
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,560
If you were at Bill Cosby's 
house and you woke up two days 

1266
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,960
later with a sore ass, what 
would you do? 

1267
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,880
I'll tell my mummy, I'll tell my
mum. 

1268
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,000
So tell. 
Me. 

1269
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,800
Your dad. 
I'll tell my mum because my dad 

1270
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,280
dropped me there. 
Yeah, I dropped to his house. 

1271
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,960
Yeah, because he knew what's 
going. 

1272
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,800
On Yeah, you couldn't punch Bill
Cosby because you just killed 

1273
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,160
him I. 
Didn't kill him exactly. 

1274
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,840
Well, that's funny now. 
The infamous glass bottle brawl,

1275
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,000
Munich press conference, which I
will, which led to actually 

1276
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,000
losing his license. 
David Haye lost his license, 

1277
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,400
culminating in a massive stadium
grudge match at Upton Park. 

1278
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,440
Now when it comes to selling 
tickets, getting it doesn't get 

1279
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:17,560
bigger than he glassed me. 
Remember when he he glassed me? 

1280
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,760
And he glassed me. 
That was. 

1281
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,360
That went viral. 
It's still viral considering it 

1282
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,880
happened in 2012. 
David made a song about him. 

1283
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,040
Did he? 
Yeah, he glassed me. 

1284
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,560
He made that song with R Kelly. 
He. 

1285
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,080
Made glass me. 
The term glassed me and then you

1286
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,040
said I'm going to shoot him. 
Now shoot him. 

1287
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,400
That's that is viral. 
When you said I'm going to 

1288
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,000
shoot, I swear to you I'm going 
to shoot David Haye. 

1289
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,200
And I was. 
And then one of my very good 

1290
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,160
friends, Ambrose Mendez, goes 
down. 

1291
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,360
That's a good fight, money 
fight. 

1292
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,560
Oh, it was a huge fight. 
And then we had to get licenses 

1293
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,920
and stuff like that, and then we
made money. 

1294
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:05,000
David Haye, in terms of getting 
counselled when he did that gang

1295
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,560
rape, that wasn't about you, was
it? 

1296
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,800
That fight was the IT. 
Was Audley Harrison. 

1297
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,760
Audley Harrison fight. 
Yeah. 

1298
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,640
And what happened to Audley in 
that fight? 

1299
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,680
He got scared. 
I don't know all he was telling 

1300
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,800
us. 
So he told us and do this and do

1301
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,280
that. 
I don't think he and then he 

1302
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,760
first friend he got knocked out.
But he didn't throw anything. 

1303
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,880
First friend, he goes spark out 
and that was the end of all the 

1304
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,320
hours. 
He didn't. 

1305
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,160
Move his arms. 
That was it. 

1306
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,880
But maybe because he thought 
that David Haye was going to 

1307
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,200
sexually abuse him. 
Because they were. 

1308
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,920
They were on Sky News together. 
And he goes to what I'm going to

1309
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,880
game. 
Rap you. 

1310
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,720
It's going to be like a A1 sided
a year, something like that, he 

1311
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,920
said. 
I don't even know if we can 

1312
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,200
broadcast this. 
How? 

1313
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,760
How are you friends with David 
Haye? 

1314
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,240
There are a lot of boxes seem to
come to my shows. 

1315
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,440
Yeah, but I'm just wondering on 
because when you say friends and

1316
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,240
boxes comes your show totally 
different. 

1317
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,320
So David, I hang out with 
sometimes. 

1318
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,640
Yeah, yeah. 
So we've been clubbing together.

1319
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,880
Would you like he's Haram? 
He's Haram, you know, he goes 

1320
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,200
out to these countries and he, 
without going into too much 

1321
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,200
detail, he's found a different 
way. 

1322
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,760
I've met his kids. 
We went to Travis Scott 

1323
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,000
together. 
We've been, he's come to 

1324
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,680
countless shows of mine. 
So we kind of just hang out 

1325
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,920
there really. 
And he's really into comedy. 

1326
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,360
But he didn't answer me, you 
know, I said. 

1327
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,840
You like his Haram? 
He's he's proper Haram. 

1328
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,160
I tell him not to be so Haram. 
He's supposed to come on the on 

1329
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,160
the podcast, but I tell him to 
stop being Haram. 

1330
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,000
He still gets big gel in it but 
I don't think he might not be 

1331
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,520
Haram. 
Because no, not anymore. 

1332
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,480
You allowed four wives. 
Too old now. 

1333
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,000
You allowed four wives, isn't 
it? 

1334
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,160
He's allowed four wives in Islam
if if talking about Haram. 

1335
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,240
He's not Muslim. 
He's not Muslim. 

1336
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,480
Yeah, so if he was Muslim he 
would be halal. 

1337
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,960
Halal. 
It's funny though, I love to be 

1338
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,080
with my boy. 
Yeah, because who would have 

1339
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,720
thought that relation? 
Because then he represented you 

1340
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,880
for a while. 
Yeah, because I was something 

1341
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,560
after I became born again, 
something was missing in my 

1342
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,480
career, basically. 
And then I was like, oh, David, 

1343
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,360
he'll be good. 
Yeah, phone him up. 

1344
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,680
Because me, me at our hotel. 
I met him. 

1345
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,240
I said, can you manage me? 
He looked at me like I was 

1346
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,520
smoking crack. 
He's like, I'll let you know. 

1347
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,480
And then our next couple of days
he called me because I manage 

1348
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,320
and I was there. 
I remember that I know the hotel

1349
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,760
as well. 
He literally lives there. 

1350
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,400
But he don't know anymore. 
He left the country. 

1351
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,120
He left the country and then he 
used to have that. 

1352
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,760
We spare cards at the back, 
remember? 

1353
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,800
You know that that room was 
sick, you know? 

1354
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,400
So many parties there. 
I had parties. 

1355
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,400
Well, that's where that's the 
gym was behind it. 

1356
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,080
Yeah, good, good old gym. 
Good old days, Mike. 

1357
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,520
Good old days take me around. 
It was beautiful in there. 

1358
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,880
Did you take Farage there? 
Nah, that's before Farage came 

1359
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,160
and now. 
No, I didn't know he was in the 

1360
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,160
jungle I believe. 
You you still talk to Farage. 

1361
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,240
Farage. 
My boy, I can call. 

1362
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,240
You now are you? 
You're because you're a 

1363
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,840
Brexiteer. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1364
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,320
I'm not sure about that guy. 
I'm not sure about you. 

1365
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,720
I don't think he would like me. 
No, at least Frage, he likes 

1366
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:28,640
everybody. 
Is it? 

1367
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,480
Yeah, so. 
What do you think the perception

1368
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,360
that people have about him? 
Those are the people who don't 

1369
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,120
know anything. 
But then like, you know, in 

1370
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,600
terms of your reform, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1371
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,720
But then you wouldn't have been 
allowed in the country in 2000 

1372
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,480
if they were in power to stay. 
That's the case then so. 

1373
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,120
What happens if somebody came in
that today from Zimbabwe? 

1374
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,440
What do we do with them? 
To put them. 

1375
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:56,480
Is it? 
Yeah. 

1376
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,480
So you're here now? 
Go love me. 

1377
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Who buy the rest of them? 
Fuck them. 

1378
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,400
What about if your brother 
comes, boy? 

1379
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,880
That motherfucker definitely 
then. 

1380
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,040
Then then then I respect your 
argument there. 

1381
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,440
That's that's you got to stand 
by your rules. 

1382
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,680
Do you know who might have to 
cut this out? 

1383
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,240
Yeah. 
Yeah, we're going to have to 

1384
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:27,640
come most of it. 
When people make money like 

1385
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:33,160
black athletes yourself, Indian 
people make money. 

1386
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,400
Yeah, they make millions. 
Where do they go and live? 

1387
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,920
Where do they live? 
Yeah, Dubai. 

1388
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,880
Well, not I forget Dubai before 
Dubai was built, Where they, 

1389
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,480
where they live? 
Where they where did the rich 

1390
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,520
people run and leave? 
Well, in England. 

1391
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,240
In England, they want to live 
where the white people live. 

1392
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,800
It's. 
Best country in the world, mate.

1393
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,720
No, but there's a saying I'm 
doing. 

1394
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,560
You have to understand, it's not
if you're rich, why don't you 

1395
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,520
live with your monks? 
You're Indian people. 

1396
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,160
I do, but I live on my own. 
You're on your own now. 

1397
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,000
You miss your life, brother, You
know, So it's just a point of 

1398
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,800
like, there's too much going on 
in the country that we are 

1399
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,920
forgetting the way of living the
right way. 

1400
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,280
Yeah, so. 
Yeah, because obviously we go 

1401
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,480
back to 2000. 
You said it was all white people

1402
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,760
now. 
That's probably only the cities 

1403
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,000
though. 
If you go outside London, when I

1404
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,680
go, like Devon, my sister lives 
there, it's all white people. 

1405
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,080
I feel at home there. 
Because. 

1406
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,480
It's all my own people. 
Because in Devon, I don't know 

1407
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,440
how far is Devon? 
You still live in Devon? 

1408
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,000
All the way down, all the way 
down South near the. 

1409
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,600
Coast, Yeah. 
Is it good there? 

1410
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,960
All white people? 
Why don't you just live there? 

1411
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,480
She moved there years ago. 
It's quiet. 

1412
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,960
Good for her. 
And the air is fresh. 

1413
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,480
Yeah, sort that did Bashar out 
here, all the car fumes and in 

1414
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,680
London. 
OK. 

1415
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,040
I mean overcrowded. 
I don't know my my car fumes. 

1416
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,720
I drive an electric car so I'm 
OK. 

1417
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,200
Oh, you drive a SMART? 
Guy, Yeah, I drive a Smart car, 

1418
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,360
yeah. 
Electric How do you get in and 

1419
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,840
out of that car? 
Very good. 

1420
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:10,520
A lot. 
Of Vaseline. 

1421
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:15,800
I put my house in and I swing my
legs in and I put my care in and

1422
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,520
I go. 
The high right reel winds in 

1423
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:25,320
2018, your knockout with Carlos 
Takam hard fought battle over 

1424
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,160
Kubrat Boulev. 
That was another great fight and

1425
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,720
your massive 2024 victory over 
you. 

1426
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,160
I think you finished Joe Joyce 
off. 

1427
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,680
I don't know. 
He was the next prospect. 

1428
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,680
Yeah, he chose that fight. 
He chose the fight. 

1429
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,280
Yeah, we should have taken it. 
They wanted to take it before 

1430
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,960
and I was like, no. 
And then one day I woke up 

1431
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,680
saying I'm ready and I took it 
and then what? 

1432
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,000
An upset. 
Yeah, because. 

1433
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,240
They call it an upset you upset 
a lot of people. 

1434
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,600
Lost lots of people, lost money.
You lost a lot of because you 

1435
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,800
could have got deployed that 
day. 

1436
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,080
Especially if I was in part I 
got deployed you. 

1437
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,760
Would have got deployed. 
No listen. 

1438
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,760
Because I remember when Joy 
Joyce, like back in 2012, they 

1439
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,399
were like, he's the next, you 
know, he's the next heavyweight.

1440
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,319
Champion. 
Yeah, about They don't have what

1441
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:22,800
it takes to get there. 
But what I like about Joy Joyce 

1442
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,560
is he's so eloquent and very 
intelligent, he could literally 

1443
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,800
go on to become a chess player. 
Listen, yeah, but boxing is 

1444
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:33,640
different. 
Yeah, but you, you have become 

1445
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,040
boxing royalty. 
That's bullshit man, I just 

1446
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,760
enjoy the game. 
You could become what Muhammad 

1447
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,960
Ali was to. 
You could become to Muhammad Ali

1448
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:51,720
was to black people in America. 
You could be that, but to white 

1449
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,160
people over here. 
Get rid of all the immigrants 

1450
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,160
and then there will be all white
people and you left. 

1451
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,960
I'm just thinking the right 
answer for you. 

1452
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,040
You could be that guy. 
You. 

1453
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,880
You are the Monday, Muhammad 
Ali. 

1454
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,439
So you want me to so we deport 
everybody and get the white 

1455
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,479
people to love me? 
Yeah, they already do. 

1456
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,120
They already do. 
But I'm I'm worried that. 

1457
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,960
Do you see the old arena was 
full of all white? 

1458
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,359
People. 
All white people. 

1459
01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:21,680
Didn't see no brown people 
black. 

1460
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,160
Sometimes I forget that you're 
from Zimbabwe. 

1461
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,040
But how about your shows are 
full of white people? 

1462
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,040
Yeah, some, a lot of Indian 
people come. 

1463
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:31,960
I've got to get you down to a 
show, man. 

1464
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:35,439
I've got to get you down to show
and, and show you what it's 

1465
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:36,120
like. 
Yeah. 

1466
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,880
Yeah. 
Come to LA with me on Wednesday.

1467
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:42,399
No, I'm going Canada, then after
that Canarda. 

1468
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,319
Beautiful chicks in Ghana, is 
it? 

1469
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,040
Yeah. 
Begialdem Beardem. 

1470
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,920
So we've gone from Del Boy. 
Where did the nickname Del Boy 

1471
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:58,560
come from then? 
Given by by Dim Power and some 

1472
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,320
other report. 
I forgot his name when I was 

1473
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,480
there and I changed afterwards 
the war. 

1474
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:10,040
Yeah, what war is your Iron Mike
Tyson Watchers Aura is one of 

1475
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,400
the best boxing names. 
Now. 

1476
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:17,280
What are you going to do? 
Some people say the rumour is 

1477
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,280
you've retired, but then we've 
broken it here. 

1478
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,080
Above, I've never the rematch 
class. 

1479
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,840
But I've never said I'm 
retiring. 

1480
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,280
They asked me. 
So what's the plans? 

1481
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,680
I'm going to go home and talk to
my wife. 

1482
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,200
To your wife? 
Yeah, I've never said I'm 

1483
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,480
retiring. 
And what did your wife say? 

1484
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:33,840
So I've never seen that 
conversation. 

1485
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,800
Wherever they say I'm going to 
go home and talk to my wife, you

1486
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,920
never see that. 
After that conversation, I got 

1487
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,360
it. 
I recorded it, so I put it out 

1488
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,640
on my Instagram. 
You put it out, I'll put it out.

1489
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,600
What did she say? 
You can hear me on this, so 

1490
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,480
yeah, I'm. 
Going to have to edit this in 

1491
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:51,800
and out to the to the podcast. 
Dell, do you really want to do 

1492
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,440
this anymore? 
Yes. 

1493
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,200
Are you going to do it? 
Yes. 

1494
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,120
We've got three kids now. 
Why wasting time? 

1495
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,280
I don't want to see you get 
punched. 

1496
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,240
Mike is the hair kids. 
I've got 3 kids with you, Dell. 

1497
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,120
Well. 
I don't talk like that. 

1498
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,720
What? 
How does your wife talk? 

1499
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,480
I've never heard her speak. 
She don't speak, Derek. 

1500
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,760
Why you she don't speak? 
Derek, I don't want to box, no. 

1501
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,360
More just do what she's told. 
Don't box it, just leave it. 

1502
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,760
Just leave it alone. 
Stay at home, drive the kids to 

1503
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,200
school and pick them up. 
I will work from now on. 

1504
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,320
No, she don't need to work. 
Well you're you're taken care of

1505
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:32,440
now. 
Look at the gums. 

1506
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:34,440
I bet you didn't even buy these.
They were sponsors. 

1507
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:39,360
This is 8 years tracks and this 
is Skepta's Puma jacket. 

1508
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:42,520
Oh, Skepta's got his own range 
now, Yeah, Bombo clad man. 

1509
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,440
You're doing something more. 
Yeah, Debenhams jacket. 

1510
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,400
Man, there's nothing wrong with 
that, bro. 

1511
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,800
Yeah, and. 
No sponsors here. 

1512
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,760
There's nothing wrong with. 
That chapter Skepta. 

1513
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,360
So what's the plan then though? 
What? 

1514
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,760
What's going to be after boxing?
Maybe me and you could start a 

1515
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,320
podcast together. 
What's the plan? 

1516
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:08,400
I don't know, be a dad. 
Yeah, that's the difficult thing

1517
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,680
because a lot of fighters, like 
they don't know what to do after

1518
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:12,480
it's. 
Not be a dad. 

1519
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:13,880
Beer dad. 
I'm not going to be a dad. 

1520
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,000
It's a difficult thing, 
obviously. 

1521
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,640
Thoughts go out to Ricky Hatton.
You know, because. 

1522
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,840
You, it's difficult going from 
that's why I've got to keep 

1523
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,280
performing because those highs 
you get in that ring and you got

1524
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,960
thousands of people watching you
cheering and you're fighting and

1525
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,280
you're boxing. 
That's a performance. 

1526
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,560
You're a performer. 
You can't go from that to doing 

1527
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,720
nothing. 
You got to keep performing. 

1528
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,800
We've got maybe we should write 
a show together, like Tyson went

1529
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,520
out and spoke about his life. 
I interviewed you on stage. 

1530
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,880
Chris Eubank did it with Nigel 
Benn, remember? 

1531
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,160
Yeah, yeah, maybe some, but 
right now, no. 

1532
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,960
I'm focusing on trying this free
man. 

1533
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:55,120
Nigel Benn was now now a born 
again Christian, but he was a 

1534
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,960
naughty man back in the day man.
He lives in Australia now. 

1535
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,800
Australia, yeah, became found. 
Jesus turned his ways. 

1536
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,840
But back in those days, we can't
go into too much detail, but bad

1537
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,520
things happened. 
I don't know. 

1538
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,080
Yeah, No, I'm friends with son 
Connor Beth. 

1539
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:13,480
He's doing well. 
He's doing all right. 

1540
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,560
He likes eggs. 
They know a lot of stuff about 

1541
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,240
the eggs. 
I think we all like eggs. 

1542
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,040
Everyone likes eggs, but if you 
eat too many it can have an 

1543
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,520
adverse effect on your 
testosterone. 

1544
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,240
Don't know about now. 
Is it? 

1545
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,600
Yeah. 
Because my cholesterol's gone 

1546
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:28,680
up. 
Because I've I think I've been 

1547
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,720
eating too many eggs. 
Fuck cholesterol. 

1548
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,720
My cholesterol went up in my 39.
I was fine when I turned $40 

1549
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,160
goes all your cholesterol is 
gone up. 

1550
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:41,000
Why does this motherfucker go up
in your 40s but in your daddy's 

1551
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,360
you don't go up? 
That's what I'm wondering now at

1552
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,240
my age is that why is my bad one
gone up? 

1553
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,520
There's 2 levels in it, good one
and a bad one, and the bad one's

1554
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,440
gone up. 
Do you train? 

1555
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:54,880
You don't train. 
I mean, The thing is, Derek, 

1556
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,160
we've gone way over time now. 
You. 

1557
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,920
Know you, you were kind enough 
to give me even some of your 

1558
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,880
time, but we've got because it's
been such a an eloquent and 

1559
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,080
informative conversation. 
Yeah. 

1560
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:16,160
There's nothing much the world, 
in fact knows about you, really.

1561
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,960
You're an elusive character. 
Some people would say you're 

1562
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,320
even an actor putting on this 
character. 

1563
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,800
Deception. 
Your deception. 

1564
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,120
Laughs laughs about this. 
Sometimes I see you as a troll. 

1565
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,360
Deception. 
Yeah, you troll people. 

1566
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,600
That's what I. 
Like about you, which is why I 

1567
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:35,480
what? 
Do I throw? 

1568
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,280
Not just the way your character 
you, you, you, you make people. 

1569
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,400
I like doing this. 
You just mess with people. 

1570
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,400
It's. 
Fun man, you don't mean it. 

1571
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,440
It's banter, yeah. 
I like it. 

1572
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,160
You know deception. 
You know life is deception. 

1573
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,040
Life is all about deception. 
Yeah. 

1574
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,520
And if it came to it, let's 
obviously we would never fight 

1575
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,000
because I'm in a different 
weight division to you. 

1576
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,400
No, but I don't give a fuck 
street if I'll beat you up. 

1577
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,600
No, but street fight I know. 
But you know, from the streets I

1578
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:06,640
know. 
You know I've known you for a 

1579
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,880
long time, right? 
And I would never with me in the

1580
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,720
streets all the time. 
You know, when it comes to 

1581
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,200
street fights, I bite. 
You know everything, everything,

1582
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,160
anything goes. 
Same here. 

1583
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:18,320
Like I'd bite your nose. 
Same here. 

1584
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:20,080
Ears. 
Same here they'll. 

1585
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,120
Be like. 
Same here. 

1586
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,320
There's nothing you can say to 
me on the street fight which is 

1587
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,640
going to scare me. 
Would you be intimidated by me 

1588
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:27,920
if it turned into a street 
fight? 

1589
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,760
Be honest. 
I won't judge you, No. 

1590
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,120
If you saw me, I'm. 
I'm telling you no, no. 

1591
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,400
Dare I no watch this? 
Volume is in the point. 

1592
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,680
Which is that now because you 
I'm wearing glasses now. 

1593
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:42,000
No. 
How do? 

1594
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,680
How does it feel? 
If you want. 

1595
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,680
Then you took your glasses off. 
Yeah, you don't scare me. 

1596
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,040
And I put them back on now. 
Now I don't look intimidating. 

1597
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,560
You're like you, Clark Kent and 
Superman. 

1598
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,520
Now you, you're thinking, now 
you can change your answer. 

1599
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:58,720
I'm not going to judge you if 
you change. 

1600
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,760
But don't scare me, you know? 
I don't scare you, no. 

1601
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,600
You're just saying that because 
the cameras here now pretend the

1602
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,800
cameras aren't recording. 
OK, pretend if. 

1603
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,240
Me and you don't scare me. 
We were in Finchley. 

1604
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,400
You don't scare. 
Me and there's nobody around. 

1605
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,960
My crew is not there. 
Your crew is not there. 

1606
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,320
We have to go to war. 
You don't scare me. 

1607
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,800
Do. 
You want to put them back on or.

1608
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,960
Me, you don't scare me. 
You need them back on because 

1609
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,160
you're reading something there 
I. 

1610
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,440
Can't see the words. 
If we put them back. 

1611
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,240
I was. 
I'm surprised because you've 

1612
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,480
been through, you've fought some
of the hardest people in the 

1613
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,600
world. 
I'm surprised you're not scared 

1614
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,200
by me. 
I'm not scared of nobody. 

1615
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:49,160
The only person I'm scared of my
my mother about and anybody else

1616
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:55,800
I'm not scared of. 
You were even detained by German

1617
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,320
police at one point. 
That was very scary. 

1618
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:04,360
If I dressed up as a German 
policeman with Leathers sweeps. 

1619
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,400
And all that. 
Are you going to shave this 

1620
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:06,480
though? 
I'm going to have the little 

1621
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,920
thing in the middle. 
Oh no, I wouldn't put the 

1622
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:09,920
Hitler. 
Mustache. 

1623
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,440
Then I'd be scared. 
Then I'd be scared. 

1624
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,160
Then I was scared. 
You know, I could talk to you 

1625
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,520
Derek for another 5 or 6 hours, 
but The thing is, we've gone 

1626
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,120
well over time here. 
You're good because I normally 

1627
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,120
say I want to go. 
Yeah, me too. 

1628
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,840
You know, The thing is, when I 
grew up, there was no such thing

1629
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,720
as ADHD. 
You know when you can't. 

1630
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,680
Yeah, they just made that shit 
up. 

1631
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,400
Now everybody's like we can't. 
Concentrate. 

1632
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,440
Now we can't. 
So for me to do an interview is 

1633
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:42,120
even a mission for me. 
I'll start falling asleep. 

1634
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,960
So the fact that it flowed so 
well with you and you know, with

1635
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,480
both from the streets, I had a 
lot of street fights growing up 

1636
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,160
and my street fights didn't go 
as well as was, which is why I'm

1637
01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:55,160
sat on this side and. 
You're sat on that side perfect.

1638
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,600
I had proper fights back in 
Berntoak. 

1639
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,360
One guy literally didn't, didn't
beat me up. 

1640
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,280
He just threw me across the 
road, picked me up and threw me 

1641
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,800
and then I then I had to learn 
how to run. 

1642
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,680
That's why I told my nephew, run
the other side. 

1643
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,840
Yeah. 
Life is too short. 

1644
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,080
Life is too short. 
The best form of defence? 

1645
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Run. 
It's run. 

1646
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,160
Just take off. 
If we can say I've any fight. 

1647
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,000
By the time they fucking realise
you're gone, they're gonna win 

1648
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,000
Chase. 
Is it worth it? 

1649
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,920
It's not worth it for them. 
Has anyone tried to snatch your 

1650
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,960
phone in London on the electric 
bike? 

1651
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:35,280
No, I hope not Chase. 
I'm always on point on my phone.

1652
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:42,680
Well, Mr. Chisora, an honour and
a privilege to have you on the 

1653
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,760
Don't Ask Me That podcast what 
you have bought to the sport 

1654
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,120
field and the entertainment 
business throughout the years. 

1655
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,640
And boxing is unparalleled in 
the world of boxing. 

1656
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,800
The legend himself, Derek. 
The War Chazora. 

1657
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,640
Don't ask me that. 
Thank you. 

1658
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,000
Thanks for watching this podcast
so far, hope you're enjoying it 

1659
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,280
and if you are, leave a five 
star review, drop some comments.

1660
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,400
I might even read them out in 
future episodes and give you a 

1661
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:14,000
shout out.
