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Listen to the noise. 
Listen to the passion in hand 

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and path. 
It's John again. 

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It's Donnie's. 
Let's me. 

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Oh yeah, the green dump by the 
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The one for Scotland. 
Hello and welcome back to the 

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Scots for the Mic Podcast. 
It's great to have you back on. 

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It's been a whirlwind couple of 
weeks in Scottish football 

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that's seen a lot of turbulence 
for a lot of clubs, most notably

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Celtic. 
I'm joined by Celtic fan Niall 

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Kavanaugh and Aaron Mackintosh 
to discuss everything that's 

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been going on. 
How are you both? 

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Good. 
Thank you. 

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Yeah, very good. 
I'm not a Celtic fan. 

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Just to make sure that. 
You wanted. 

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You wanted. 
My like I was a. 

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Celtic fan. 
As well, Yeah, we've got wreath 

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Rovers of fan iron on, so we can
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would you call it a disaster 
class at Celtic, Obviously 

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Wolford nonsense coming into the
job, 4 losses in a row, first 

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time that's happened since 1978.
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terrible start for Wolford, 
Nancy. 

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It's just it's never really got 
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He came in and said that, you 
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Martin O'Neill, I'm not going to
change anything. 

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And then he's implemented his 
feet at the back and it's just 

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been an absolute disaster. 
Yeah, I mean, his press 

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conferences haven't been that 
much better as well. 

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Obviously some comments turn in 
the heads of Celtic fans said he

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doesn't need to prove anything 
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football, especially Scottish 
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you definitely do. 
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that infamous new profile 
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then it's a Venn diagram of 
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you care about, and it's what 
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middle. 
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all the the press conferences 
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To be fair, I think sometimes he
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translation. 
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doesn't have to prove anything 
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major red flag because he 
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said that it was free defeats 
and at all it's No 4 defeats and

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at all. 
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something and is watching every 
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He's not shown me anything that 
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He's not proved anything. 
I think his tactics are a bit. 

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There's certainly question marks
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I mean, the players don't look 
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doing. 
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about Callum McGregor at least 
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Again is getting pulled over to 
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them instructions. 
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players don't even know what to 
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Another noticeable point is, and
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is he's very animated on the 
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If he waves his hands about a 
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instructions. 
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when she was doing it and not 
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players were looking at them. 
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that I don't think the players 
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coach. 
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Obviously first starting with 
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was going to be a tough one 
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I think you had one training 
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2, so you could maybe give him 
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most notably where Celtic for 
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fair to say were second best. 
Stephen Robinson obviously 

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winning his first major trophy 
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finals against Celtic as as 
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Were you watching that one, 
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And what did you, what have you 
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Yeah, I was watching. 
I've watched Sunday's game. 

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I actually watched all four 
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that he's been in charge. 
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as a neutral to see this happen 
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And I'm so sorry to say that to 
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It's it's well to to to Celtic 
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lower league supporter, you 
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bigger guys, you know, being a 
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because we've been in pain and 
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financial issues, you know, you 
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happen to them that yes, this is
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and stuff like that. 
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But yeah, Sunday in particular, 
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Celtic did not want to face at 
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Mirren, just because you see 
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Celtic this season. 
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it's been they've won more games
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I think the first one was 89th 
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95th minute in both games. 
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going to do. 
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people say they're a little bit 
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I think they play as good as it 
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budget they've got, yeah, and a 
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There was only one team that was
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I think they wanted it more. 
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more. 
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Mirren, that's I think the fifth
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history, something crazy like 
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Yeah, yeah. 
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8 league cups just itself. 
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comparison, it's obviously 
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Yeah, they said to me, yeah, 
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That it'll just be another, 
another piece of silver, another

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like, you know, like. 
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You're on the year on the board.
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care. 
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the embarrassment of the loss 
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silverware from Saint Mirren. 
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Michael Mann drawn top, top 
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And I think Stephen Robinson put
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you won't get life changing 
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can be a cult hero. 
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that in Paisley and across 
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supporters, you will be 
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also. 
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Everybody was everywhere. 
Time Membership. 

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somebody in the lower leagues, 
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those clubs, like you're Saint 
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clubs try and get like a you 
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the sunshine even though it was 
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Hampden Park. 
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a row they've lost. 
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What a day. 
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I've had as a football fan grow.
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Oh, at least at least 10 so far.
I'm trying to get in one in 

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every every episode. 
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United, obviously Peter Lowell 
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There was fans going around on 
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Tana Dice, you were there. 
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Obviously chatting towards the 
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filming at one point. 
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Brigade and Boys, who are the 
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next to kind of the directors 
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So they had a banner seeing 
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the game of about 10-15 minutes 
in the Sky Sports cameras panned

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to Michael Nicholson, who's 
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board, and it looked like he was
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pointing at a few members of 
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So it's been a very toxic, it's 
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honest, on and off the pitch. 
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night was the the final knee 
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I think because it was just, 
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So it's just, it's a very toxic 
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And now there's a a clear 
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Yeah, obviously a lot of fans 
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sacked. 
He's not been despite reports 

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today that will be yesterday 
when this podcast comes out. 

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Do you think he will be? 
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you want him to be sacked? 
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will be sacked if there's 
another loss against Aberdeen on

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Sunday? 
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I want him to be sacked because 
as I touched on earlier, he's 

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shown like nothing in full games
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go. 
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I'm going to back this guy 
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watching us play. 
I don't know how we can go from 

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winning seven out of eight games
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It's standing in tactics. 
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sacked? 
No, because that will mean that 

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the Celtic board will have to 
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admit that they got it wrong 
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The pay off. 
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the track record I don't think 
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Sunday. 
I think he'll have no other 

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options because the Sharks will 
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he'll be able to walk out of 
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Sunday. 
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I think he had to get escorted 
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I think when it gets to that 
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results on the pitch, it's about
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As an Aberdeen fan, I think 
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that opportunity. 
I think you're gonna get an easy

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3 points and. 
Hopefully. 

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No, I think on the, I think it 
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had Craig Levine speaking about 
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said the best thing that could 
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for the Old Firm to go play in 
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time, not just from Levine but 
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There's been offers for for 
leagues involving the Norwegian 

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teams, Swedish teams, as well as
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in or sorry, of Scottish teams 
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From an outsider's perspective, 
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never actually happen. 
But what do you think of of 

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those comments and what do you 
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Well, I think, I think now as 
you said, that is interesting 

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because Hearts on the top of the
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sent Madden and Scottish Cup 
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So maybe if you sat down and 
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you could go, yes, in terms of 
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probably make it fairer. 
But a year down the line, this 

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is the worst that Celtic Rangers
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So it is making it more 
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But how long are Celtic Rangers 
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Historically if Celtic and 
Rangers are bad, they tend to 

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spend to make it better, which 
then would fall back into the 

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point of that's why they 
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because they're bad and then 
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away. 
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I think, yeah, in January we'll 
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especially from Celtic, I mean 
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under Danny Roll, 11 unbeaten I 
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But with Celtic with all that 
money in the bank, you've got to

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feel that they need to spend, 
especially the board to at least

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save their arses if nothing 
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I mean, if there was a level 
playing field or even A at least

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a bit better of a playing field 
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extremely different than we 
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situation where, you know, as I 
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English media, Oh, is this the 
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And I'm like, no, no, they'll be
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million spent and St. 
Ern will have got free agents in

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the summer. 
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of the vast different and not 
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but revenue in clubs where even 
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it's still going to be dominance
for forever. 

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But Celtic, so I know you're 
talking about money, Celtic only

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stuck in a dilemma of the back, 
Wilfred, Nancy in January and 

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get the players in to shoot a 
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So that will be wing backs and 
attacking midfielders. 

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You back them get the players in
and then five months down the 

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line you sack them and then a 
new manager's left to come clean

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up his mess a bit like what 
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walking with the mess of Russell
Martin and and Kevin farewell. 

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So Celtic and lay in that 
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them and back from the ocean. 
January of the double down and 

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back of Fid Nancy and run the 
risk that it might not get 

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better and then 345 months down 
the line you have to shack them 

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and the new manager's left with 
his signings I think. 

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Well. 
There's a bit. 

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There's a bit that reminds me 
just just when you said that 

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about a few years ago when Sean 
Maloney was the Hibs manager, 

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If. 
You were I. 

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Can't remember. 
He replaced that was Paul 

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Higginbottom. 
I think he released at the time 

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and he spent some money in 
January and you know, they were 

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saying we're going to back him. 
We're going to back him for this

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long and we're going to, you 
know, he's going to be here for,

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you know, gears years in the 
very common. 

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Nobody lasts years anymore. 
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money, not a lot, but you know, 
they still got a few good 

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players in the into the dressing
room. 

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And by the time they lost the 
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Hearts, he was out the door and 
that was what, four or five 

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months later. 
So, you know, it's an 

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interesting point what you're 
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risk both ways. 
You've got to look at both 

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because you think you don't want
to double down on like sack of 

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the manager so soon. 
But then if it doesn't work out,

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how long you know, how long do 
you? 

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It is, yeah. 
It's such an awkward time 

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because because even if you do 
sack Nancy right now or after, 

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I'd say after the Aberdeen game,
that's the 27th of December, 

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then January transfer window 
opens, 1st of January. 

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You've probably got who Martin 
as interim. 

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Do you give him it to the end of
the season or do you try and 

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identify a manager that you want
long term? 

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I mean, that's obviously Martin 
being a certain style of 

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football, but it's more common, 
it's more direct, it's played by

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more managers than the 343 or 
whatever 352. 

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So yeah, like you said, it's a 
bit of a sticky situation where?

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And Martin O'Neill would notice 
how the players would want to 

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play, yeah. 
You know, because he knows the 

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club. 
Exactly. 

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And but also looking at the 
squad of players, I mean last 

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night in particular, you put 
Ralston on the right side of a 

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three or you know, Tierney as 
well. 

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I mean Tierney can play that. 
There's we've seen that in 

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Scotland for Scotland, we've 
seen it for Celtic a few times. 

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I think he's done it for real. 
So she died a couple of times as

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well when he was there. 
So you could do that. 

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Ralston's not somebody that 
should put him in in the. 

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Same. 
I don't, I don't rate Ralston at

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all, whether it be for Celtic or
Scotland. 

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We've we've had this discussion 
before and I think I hate 

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singling them out, I really do, 
because I don't, I want to like 

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the guy, but there's just 
something about him. 

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I mean, but I think we said this
before the Greece game. 

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I've just watched him the whole 
time. 

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And. 
He was like, yeah, my eyes were 

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glued to. 
Him, I go back to Switzerland 

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game when I was there, but no, I
think I think you touched on it 

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there where O'Neill would know 
how the players want to play 

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because he gets Scottish 
football. 

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And I think, yeah, it's clear to
see that Nancy doesn't get it 

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because I think that quote came 
out. 

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I don't know if it was yesterday
after that I think it was, yeah.

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I think it was his match 
reaction where he was questioned

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on if he does know Scottish 
football and has response was 

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that he doesn't know Scottish 
football because he almost 

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signed for Carlisle, Yeah. 
I think he's been taking a bit 

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of a context, I think. 
I think, well go on, give me the

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context then I. 
Think he's mean in British 

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football more than anything 
British. 

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English football is so different
than Scottish. 

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Football I know, but I think 
what he said was I almost signed

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for Carlisle United. 
I know who you know that was. 

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Then it was like stopped. 
I know a little bit about 

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Scottish football. 
I mean I. 

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Don't know it's it's not a good 
look. 

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It's still not a good look, but 
I kind of get what he's trying 

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to say about it. 
But it's like when you said I. 

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But what does he mean by British
football? 

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What does he mean by British 
football? 

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Does he mean Manchester Cities 
football? 

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Or does he mean Burnley's 
football like? 

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Yeah, it it, but it's a 
hypothetical thing because he 

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said. 
I know a bit, you know, it's 

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like me saying I know a little 
bit about the MLS because I was 

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in Florida for three weeks. 
I mean that at. 

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Least that's in America. 
Exactly. 

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But it's just so it's it was 
just a comment that didn't need 

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to be made. 
He could have said you could 

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have just said yes or no. 
And. 

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That he's not helping himself. 
Yeah, he would. 

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Have made more of a deal than 
that. 

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Yeah, it's been a whirlwind. 
I think can move on to to 

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massive scores in the lower 
league, one that Aaron, you'll 

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have greatly enjoyed watching. 
I think you were there as well. 

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Race Rovers beating Ross County 
6 nil. 

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I know, I know, you messaged me 
saying it's the biggest league 

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win. 
Since when? 

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When was that? 
1992 was it was opening game 

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1927 nil win against St. 
Mirren. 

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St. 
Mirren got relegated the season 

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before from the Premiership and 
so they were the favourites and 

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there's a good clip on YouTube. 
Ross Keitney the favourites this

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season as well. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah, there's a good clip on 
YouTube just to plug it in. 

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There's somebody's filmed it 
from, if you know, Star Spark 

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you, there's the main stand 
which is like the L-shaped stand

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that you see on the TV and 
somebody's filmed the goals from

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there. 
And there's a brilliant goal 

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scored by Ronnie Coyle who used 
to play as a centre back and he 

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was a Celtic youth player and he
was, he's been around the blocks

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and he's was a centre back and I
think he scored the 6th or the 

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7th and he's literally took it 
from, I think he took it for a 

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run to like 70 yards. 
He's managed to score from 

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there. 
So yeah, my dad said to me, 

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because I was with my dad on 
Saturdays, like minds me the 

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good old days, I was like, 
that's only one day. 

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Yeah, exactly it was. 
Just yeah. 

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It was I was kind of, I had the 
fear because Rath Rovers do 

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historically with somebody's in 
a bad run, Rath Rovers normally 

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on the team now that that. 
Give them the win. 

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Yeah, that's what happened to 
the. 

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Season. 
That's Aberdeen. 

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Yeah, hopefully, yeah. 
But we played county in the 

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season. 
Exactly the same thing happened.

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No, they were on a bad run. 
Yeah, they're. 

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Losing run, they're winning on 
the streak and then they we were

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the first team to lose against 
them at the end of the season. 

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You lost in the playoffs to them
as well, right? 

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Exactly. 
Yeah, about revenge for them so 

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but. 
But yeah, you got Tony Docherty 

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sacked. 
Well done. 

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That's that's them. 
Got rid of Don Kelly, Tony 

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Docherty. 
And I think that the, I don't 

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know who it was, maybe the 
chairman of Ross County saying 

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they've had so many applicants 
to the job and I've that. 

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Earlier, they've got 80 
candidates. 

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Sorry, 80. 
People. 

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Oh, that was it. 
Yeah. 

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And I bet one of them is Stuart 
Kettlewell, I'm telling you. 

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Derrick Adams because he's. 
All. 

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No, yeah, Stuart Kettlewell got 
sacked of Kilmarnock there from 

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Kilmarnock after their two one 
loss to Aberdeen. 

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What a turn around. 
Definitely deserved it. 

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With the second-half we could 
have scored about four or five. 

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I think they had about 3 cleared
off a line that puts Aberdeen 

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top of the form table actually 
in the Premiership. 

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Seven wins, 2 draws and one 
loss. 

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And obviously Kilmarnock were on
that 10 or 11 game winless run 

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where it couldn't go on like 
that. 

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And then touching on Inverness, 
9 nil win against Dunbar and I 

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think it was 7 nil halftime. 
I mean, crazy Alfie Babbage, 

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Aberdeen Loney scored four 
inside 37 minutes. 

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I don't know if that's the 
quickest or the quickest. 

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Someone scored four goals or 
something like that. 

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That is crazy. 
Biggest one in their history. 

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And yeah, crazy, crazy. 
Couple of scores there it. 

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Was good because there was a bet
there was because I've got the 

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tweet here. 
So the Dunbar and twerk page. 

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I'm still saying twerk. 
I'm not saying X. 

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Yeah, old school fair. 
So. 

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So. 37 minutes. 
Goal for inveness. 

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Babbage sons No. 
Kali 6. 

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Somebody's replied to them. 
Azman, go home, please. 

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You went. 
I can't. 

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I've got a job to do. 
Yeah, long night, long night for

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him. 
Exactly. 

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I feel so sorry for that, for 
that, for that admin. 

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But yeah, it was such a crazy 
game. 

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I did, you know, it's one of 
those games that kind of expect 

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that was going to happen. 
I didn't think was going to be. 

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Yeah, because obviously 
Inverness top of top of League 1

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despite A5 point deduction and 
they're just absolutely walk in 

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the league. 
Yeah, I think Babbage is such a 

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good player as well and it 
didn't work out for me. 

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United and you know, it was kind
of questioning why I didn't 

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because I thought he would fit 
the championship he's gone to. 

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Let's go to see County. 
That's not a good sign. 

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He's going to Cali. 
He's going to Cali and I think 

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there is that family connection 
up there because I think his dad

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played for Cali, didn't he? 
Or somebody's family played for 

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Cali. 
So there's that family 

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connection there, which is good 
for him. 

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I'd be interested to see what 
happens to him in January. 

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I don't know if they've got a 
recall clause, but it's whether 

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he would stay at Cali or he 
would really go up to the 

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championship. 
So be interested to see what 

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happens to him. 
He's more than capable of 

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playing in the Championship, so 
you know, be interested to see 

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what happens, but good for him 
to get the four. 

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Yeah, I was. 
I was going to say that a United

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could really do with Alfie 
Babbage this season. 

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So I don't know if you're aware,
but I commentate on the United 

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home games. 
Yeah. 

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And like, we do everything right
except score. 

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So I think Babbage would be a 
good sign indefinitely. 

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Get talking to Scott Brown, 
then. 

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Yeah, yeah, get any easier, get 
any easier. 

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But yeah, boss county. 
I mean, where do you where do 

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you start? 
Terrible, terrible season. 

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Obviously, as you touched on 
Finn bookies favourites to to 

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vault the leak. 
I think they just threw the 

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kitchen sink at it, but prime 
example of that from the kitchen

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sink at it always doesn't 
doesn't pay off. 

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Certainly not paid off for the 
Staggies this season. 

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When? 
You look at their squad as well 

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and looking at Saturday's squad 
as well, because I've got the 

449
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,760
team sheet here and there's 
still good players in that team 

450
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080
because they've still got, you 
know, they've got Jordan White, 

451
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,760
they've got Ronan Hale, they've 
got Jay Henderson, you know, 

452
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,600
they've got Jamie Lindsay, you 
know, they've got good player, 

453
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560
they've got Trevor Carson who's 
a decent enough keeper for 

454
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,400
champions level. 
But it's just not clicking. 

455
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,880
And I mean. 
If you, if you look at the type 

456
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,480
of players they had two years 
ago as well, Jan Danda, Simon 

457
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,520
Murray, I mean, they were a 
brilliant, brilliant squad and I

458
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,000
don't think. 
That's how we didn't get 

459
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,920
promoted because. 
Yeah, that's why. 

460
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,560
No, because those two in 
particular just were so good 

461
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,960
against us in. 
That and I don't know if they 

462
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,760
can afford to get relegated to 
League One either. 

463
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,040
I mean, they've got, they'll 
have a massive wage bill. 

464
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,680
I imagine that they're going to 
prove. 

465
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,480
I mean, it's hard. 
We don't know what's going to 

466
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,080
happen. 
Yeah, Yeah, January, Yeah. 

467
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,560
I imagine because they need to 
appoint the manager and they 

468
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,280
need to throw as much to the 
money manager as possible, and 

469
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,600
no doubt they will because 
they've got the money available.

470
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Because McGregor back to his 
managers, there's one thing that

471
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,480
you can't criticize him for. 
Yeah. 

472
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,960
Yeah. 
So but I would just want to know

473
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,080
who would get that job though, 
because it's such it's becoming 

474
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,320
a lot bit yeah chalice now 
though, because Kyrie. 

475
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,760
And. 
We had Ramsey on this podcast. 

476
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,720
I was with them on there, and 
you said that, yeah, it was time

477
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,000
for him to go. 
His favorite was Tony Dockerty 

478
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,560
to come in. 
I thought the same. 

479
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,080
I thought you should have. 
Who did they appoint? 

480
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,720
His assistant manager. 
So where they appointed the 

481
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,360
assistant? 
Yeah. 

482
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,440
Yeah, So they had like 2 actual 
managers they had, they had John

483
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Robertson. 
That was it. 

484
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,480
Yeah, they. 
Had so they they they had 

485
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,360
they've got 3 managers, 3 
managers who capable of managing

486
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,480
the championship all. 
And they're all gone. 

487
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,360
I. 
Was thinking, let's just say 

488
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:27,600
that on I think they've got too 
many cooks in terms of 

489
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,600
management, in terms of there's 
too many voices. 

490
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,440
You need the hierarchy exactly 
where there's a clear boss. 

491
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,400
But no. 
I think touching back on on 

492
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,320
Alfie Babbage as well. 
It's so good to to finally see 

493
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,840
real promising attackers coming 
through. 

494
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,440
Hopefully. 
Fingers crossed obviously, 

495
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760
because for so long it's been, 
you know, Scotland are a great 

496
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,160
team, but they don't have a 
striker. 

497
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Scotland are a great team, but 
they can't score the goals. 

498
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,560
So hopefully in the next couple 
of years, you can kind of see 

499
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040
those players like Alfie Bavage,
Kieran Bowie, Tommy Conway, 

500
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Emilio Lawrence, a Man City, you
know, these kind of really 

501
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,040
attacking players, Harvey 
Barnes, which we can we can 

502
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,640
touch on as well where Harvey 
Barnes obvious isn't coming 

503
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,400
through it, but others are where
you can you can bring that kind 

504
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,920
of attacking flair if you want 
to use that word, where we've 

505
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,040
kind of been really well, really
good defensively. 

506
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,760
We've got arguably probably the 
best midfield in the world 

507
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,680
outside the top eight nations, 
but at the top end of the pitch 

508
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,880
we've kind of like that. 
Yeah, certainly. 

509
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,400
I think looking at the forward 
areas in particular, like the 

510
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,320
younger players as well, like 
you were saying about Babbage, 

511
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,040
and obviously it's far too 
early, but I'm. 

512
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,880
But you look at Conway, we know 
what he's capable of. 

513
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,720
You know what Bolton Valley is 
capable of. 

514
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:48,480
And obviously I'm a big boy fan 
because he's no local connection

515
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,000
and stuff. 
So I. 

516
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,680
Will throw is yeah, yeah. 
Well, he's a crocodia boy as 

517
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,200
well, so you know. 
Yeah, we'll always be on, always

518
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,680
back, not always back. 
Our local boys to pay that won't

519
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800
back. 
You know, Ollie Burke, one of 

520
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,600
ours as Wells, you know, he's a 
Kakodi boy even though he's got 

521
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,040
the nut in the Maccent. 
And so, you know, they could 

522
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,560
have the cubation out of those 
two Kirkcaldy boys in the in the

523
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Scotland scored for the World 
Cup. 

524
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Who knows. 
But certainly the young players 

525
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,680
coming through, I like the look 
of me or Lawrence. 

526
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,880
I think he's got. 
Something. 

527
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,400
He looks really good. 
Yeah. 

528
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,680
And who's, I don't know how to 
pronounce it. 

529
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,560
Who's the boy that went from 
Sheffield Wednesday to Man City?

530
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,160
Oh, got a Mccamer. 
I don't, Yeah. 

531
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,720
I've got a lisp that's not. 
The the son of Danny, right? 

532
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,880
Danny, yeah, he used to play for
Dundee United. 

533
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,400
Yeah, and I'm not going to try 
and pronounce his surname Never.

534
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,040
I've never been able to. 
But that's how he's eligible for

535
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Scotland because he was, he was 
living in Cooper when he was 

536
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,440
playing for Dundee United and. 
Yeah, so he's his son is 15 or 

537
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,720
maybe 16 now and he was playing 
under 19 level for Scotland and 

538
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,000
scored a hat trick. 
So he's went for over £1,000,000

539
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,040
to Man City now his. 
Dad said. 

540
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,640
Because if there's people on 
Twitter saying things like. 

541
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Yeah, I was going to touch on 
that. 

542
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,680
Yeah, yeah. 
Soon as England comes calling, 

543
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,920
he'll go to them and you know, 
it's like the Elliott Anderson 

544
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,880
situation, like he's in hacked. 
He's done as well a little bit. 

545
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,160
And Harry Gray and Archie Gray 
and the rest of them, yeah. 

546
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Traitors, if you like to call 
them. 

547
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Yeah, but his dad pretty much 
says on Twitter like he wants to

548
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,960
play for Scotland or Jamaica. 
Yeah, his reply was I don't know

549
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200
if it was in our comments or 
someone elses comments where 

550
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,680
yeah, someone said. 
Tagged into it, yeah. 

551
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960
Yeah. 
So someone said he'll switch 

552
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,280
thing on as soon as they come 
call and then he replied they 

553
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,000
already did and he said no. 
So hopefully that's one to 

554
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,840
watch. 
I think he feels Scottish. 

555
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,640
He is Scottish. 
And he definitely wants to play 

556
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,640
for Scotland or Jamaica. 
It's one of the two. 

557
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,400
And he said he wants to give 
Scotland because he was born 

558
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,800
there, his. 
First priority His. 

559
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,960
Priority. 
But who knows? 

560
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760
It's one of those that might 
yeah, you know, you can't. 

561
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,560
You want to throw good things at
young players, but you don't 

562
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,680
want to throw too much of them 
at the such an early stage 

563
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,120
because. 
Caramel code, then Billy coming 

564
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:01,040
to mind, Yeah. 
You know, you've got such a, you

565
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,560
know, the highest prospects and 
this is the game. 

566
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,640
Just let them. 
Just let them develop, you know 

567
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,280
what I mean? 
Exactly. 

568
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,840
Yeah, let them, let them develop
to their to their full 

569
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080
potential. 
And then once, once they're 

570
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,720
ready, it could be a time when. 
Yeah, I mean, we can we can 

571
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,000
focus on the World Cup next 
summer rather than, you know, 

572
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,320
let them develop and maybe come 
2028 when we've got three games 

573
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,400
at Hamden, at least for the EUR,
we can talk about them and wild 

574
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,040
cards for their. 
There's been a lot of talk for 

575
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,720
Harvey Barnes in the last couple
of days. 

576
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Steve Clark did an interview 
where he's a they both got each 

577
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,080
other's numbers and that Clark 
will reportedly reach out to him

578
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,920
after the new year. 
He also said that he's he's kind

579
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600
of confirmed that he's going to 
take a 26 man squads. 

580
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Obviously we saw something 
similar for year 2020 where Chay

581
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,800
Adams came in kind of not last 
minute but pretty late on. 

582
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Do you think well would you have
asked us about 3 podcasts in a 

583
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640
row to different people Now 
would you take Calvary Barnes 

584
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,640
and what a great from my, in my 
opinion, what a great addition 

585
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,360
need be to the squad. 
Yes, I think MD that wouldn't 

586
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320
take Calvary Barnes, I think is 
silly. 

587
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,520
Yeah, I get I. 
Get. 

588
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,360
Yeah, I get the point that the 
players who've got you there 

589
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,920
like deserve to be on the plane.
But like, say, for instance, if 

590
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800
you swap him for a a Conor 
Baron, you're not going to 

591
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,240
you're not going to be missing 
out. 

592
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,280
You know what I mean? 
Conor Baron, I don't he's not 

593
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,600
even he's been even played in 
like the last two camps. 

594
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,040
So albeit he's been on the bench
to get you there, but he's not 

595
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,360
like you're not going to miss 
out on what he brings, albeit is

596
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,920
a good player. 
So I think that and as well with

597
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,280
the World Cup qualifying as in 
the past, we're now at the 

598
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,000
tournament. 
Surely you'd you'd want the best

599
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,040
for at the tournament and not 
what's best for the previous 

600
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
qualifiers. 
But I think it'd be a great 

601
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,320
addition plus Scotland to have 
one winger, Ben Ganondoke, who 

602
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,360
is probably going to be 5050. 
And even if he does go, how much

603
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,360
football is he going to play 
before the actual World Cup? 

604
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Whereas Harvey Barnes is has 
been starting we can recount 

605
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,920
from Newcastle. 
I think if you get enough of 

606
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880
these wingers and it allows you 
to, to switch system within 

607
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640
games, which is something that 
we've kind of struggled with. 

608
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,200
Obviously we'll play 4 at the 
back now before, you know, in 

609
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600
the kind of EUR 2020 qualifiers 
played five at the back. 

610
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,680
But that's the only two systems 
we've really seen on the State 

611
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,520
Park. 
And you kind of need that if 

612
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,800
you're wanting to to attack the 
game, you're you're trailing and

613
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400
you need a goal if you want to 
be able to switch to that kind 

614
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,280
of attack in formation. 
Obviously Ben Ganondoke against 

615
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Denmark in the 1st 20 minutes or
so before he got injured was I 

616
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,800
think his best game I've seen. 
I think he was absolutely 

617
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,080
electric. 
Yeah, exactly. 

618
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Yeah, I think he was the best 
player in the park. 

619
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,240
Yeah, Dorgie couldn't get 
anywhere near. 

620
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,600
Him that's yeah and that's two 
world class field backs. 

621
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,920
He'd done that to Dorgu and 
Fardeal in the Nations League. 

622
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,520
So I think he's obviously you 
know the main priority for 

623
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,400
winger, but if you can get 
someone like Harvey Barnes and 

624
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,120
which allows you to play 2 
wingers, that's a big, big plus.

625
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,320
I. 
Think the one thing as well 

626
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,200
about people will say why would 
he? 

627
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Because he's not committed, but 
he's not saying no, you know 

628
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,440
what I mean? 
He's not because he's had the 

629
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,240
opportunity to be on TV a couple
of times. 

630
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,320
Remember, I think he was on TV a
few weeks ago after the Man City

631
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,200
game, I think it was. 
And it was also straight after 

632
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,400
we qualified. 
Exactly. 

633
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,840
And, you know, I think who was 
it that was saying that, you 

634
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,240
know, joking with the Micah 
Richard? 

635
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,560
I think it was, was joking with 
them. 

636
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,080
He was saying. 
Like Mick Barnes, Scotland World

637
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Cup, No, he could have said 
there and no, no, no, no, no, 

638
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,640
I'm not that's that's no, but 
he's never ruled it out. 

639
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280
So you want to you've got unless
he actually comes out and says 

640
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,160
no, you've got to still keep him
under consideration. 

641
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,320
I've always considered him 
under, you know, for 

642
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,080
possibilities until you actually
get the no or until he gets his,

643
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560
you know, full allocated caps. 
So coming behind me as. 

644
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Yeah. 
I know he's been capped once for

645
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400
England but I was a friendly so 
he's still. 

646
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,120
Capable. 
To play for us and it would have

647
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,200
been the same for Tina. 
Left me until until he got 

648
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,160
capped. 
I was going to say, I think, 

649
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,040
yeah, I feel like this is the 
first one where it feels like it

650
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440
is going to happen because 
obviously there's been there's 

651
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,720
been rumours of like there was 
God, there was Gerald Kwanza 

652
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,800
before he played for England, 
Tina Liverman, So Chris Brady, 

653
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,640
the goalkeeper, Chicago Fire, 
Archie Gray, obviously Elliot 

654
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Anderson, Hayden Hackney, so 
many. 

655
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,120
But I think so. 
There's still some that you 

656
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,000
think that might happen, I 
think, yeah, I think one of 

657
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,080
those ones, as long as long as 
he's at middle, yeah, I think 

658
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,400
he's. 
You've got to cook though, 

659
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,840
because he's not going to get in
that England squad anytime soon.

660
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600
Yeah, but I think this one, this
one feels like it's going to 

661
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,800
happen and speak. 
Speaking of friendlies, there 

662
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,720
have been a lot of news on the 
Scotland friendlies in 

663
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,960
preparation for the World Cup. 
So this these are not confirmed 

664
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520
officially, but it seems like 
we're going to be playing Japan 

665
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,120
at sometime in March. 
They've got a game against 

666
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,440
England at Wembley, the 31st I 
believe that is 30 first. 

667
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,800
Yeah, I think that is, yeah. 
So they're really doing Auk tour

668
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,480
and they've chosen Scotland as 
their second opponent. 

669
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960
Obviously they're preparing to 
face, I think it's two European 

670
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,560
nations in their group. 
We've got Kuruko and a send off 

671
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,440
game at Hamden on I think 6th or
7th of June. 

672
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
We've got an African side 
reportedly at either Saint James

673
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Park, which would be the perfect
location for Harvey Barnes debut

674
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,120
or Everton's new ground. 
So that's the African side that 

675
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400
obviously Steve Clarke said he 
wanted to face a nation from 

676
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,440
each confederation that we're 
going to be playing at the World

677
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,640
Cup and the South American team 
that we're heavily rumoured to 

678
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,440
be facing as Argentina. 
So yeah, that would probably be 

679
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,800
the other March friendly. 
Yeah, I. 

680
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Think there's there's a friendly
going to be held in Florida. 

681
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,280
They want me because I was 
reading. 

682
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Yeah, I read that. 
Yeah, you want to get to, they 

683
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,200
want to have a, a. 
Warm waiter. 

684
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,480
Yeah, and I think Argentina 
want. 

685
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,719
Yeah, acclimatized. 
Yeah. 

686
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,679
So, and it's a good reason for 
us. 

687
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,719
I mean, I know somebody was 
criticizing why they should, why

688
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,199
Steve Clark needs to play the 
friendlies. 

689
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,280
The fact is you've got to play 
these friendlies. 

690
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,159
It's, you know, it's if you 
weren't in the World Cup, you 

691
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,760
need to play 10 games minimum 
during a, you know, the course 

692
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,880
of a calendar year. 
So the friendlies have to count 

693
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,760
it. 
So that one against Curacao at 

694
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,719
hand and one have a funny 
feeling. 

695
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,440
Nothing's been confirmed, no 
rumours, but if that Argentina 

696
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,080
is going to happen, it's going 
to be in Florida. 

697
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,639
But it's one of those that is 
it's a good, it's a good one to 

698
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,080
have. 
If you can play against like the

699
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,639
bigger nations, I think it's 
good as well. 

700
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,520
We're not playing anybody from 
Europe as well. 

701
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,080
I think that was one thing, 
Clark. 

702
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,960
Said as. 
Well, yeah. 

703
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,280
But we've played enough 
different teams. 

704
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Yeah, we've played enough. 
That's that's what the World 

705
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,639
Cup's all about. 
We've waited long enough. 

706
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,800
We've waited long enough that we
don't play. 

707
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,800
We don't want to play any more 
European teams. 

708
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,960
Obviously last time out before 
year 2024, I think it was the 

709
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,400
Netherlands that we played. 
I remember, I remember Lawrence 

710
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,880
Shanklin started that one. 
That was the main debate if 

711
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,400
Shanklin would start up front 
and then the send off game was 

712
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,360
Finland. 
I think it was Finland. 

713
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,920
So yeah, it's good to play some 
teams that we've we've never 

714
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040
played and some teams that we've
not played in in a long, long 

715
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,240
time. 
Obviously that was different 

716
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:27,920
scenario because that was 
European champions. 

717
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,040
Yeah, obviously you had. 
To play, I think it was the 

718
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,960
right thing to do that time. 
But no, no, I'm just, yeah, 

719
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,880
certainly playing. 
I'm just saying it'll be 

720
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,920
definitely nice to because 
because with a lot of teams you 

721
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,040
don't with a lot of these teams 
that are not European, you don't

722
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,640
actually know what to expect. 
Yeah. 

723
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,800
I mean, I think it was Ecuador 
that were in Part 2 or Part 3, 

724
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,760
Part 2, where I think they're 
arguably one of the dark horses 

725
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,840
for the tournament. 
They've got one of the best 

726
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,160
defenses in the world, really 
good midfield, really good 

727
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,240
attack. 
I mean, they're one of the dark 

728
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,360
horses. 
But going into those games, you 

729
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,520
don't really know what to expect
because obviously a lot of 

730
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,400
people aren't included up on 
South American football or 

731
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,920
African football. 
So yeah, it'll be good to play 

732
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,480
those games. 
And if we can get that game, 

733
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,480
that St. 
James's Park, that will be a 

734
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,840
good away there I think. 
Know that Dan, who's in our 

735
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,040
group chat for Football Park 
Scotland, You know he's one of 

736
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480
our admins as well. 
No, he's from Newcastle. 

737
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:25,760
You know he's 10 minutes away. 
He's. 

738
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,520
About 10 minutes away from from 
Newcastle. 

739
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560
So as soon as he heard when did 
the news break? 

740
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,720
I think it was Monday it broke 
could. 

741
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,520
That be. 
Doing it his eyes immediate 

742
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,600
love. 
He doesn't respond. 

743
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,680
I mean our chat if you if you 
can get to if you can get to 

744
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,880
Scotland Supporters Club points 
for for that away day. 

745
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,800
Yeah. 
Oh, I will be. 

746
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,800
I will be there. 
It's it's such a good place to 

747
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,040
play a game of football, though,
somewhere different, you know, I

748
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,520
mean, and people are saying why 
are we doing that? 

749
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,640
It's like, well, first of all, I
don't think they want to play 

750
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,080
two games at Hampden. 
No, Yeah, you need, you need the

751
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,880
neutral venue friendly. 
Yeah, I think, I think you don't

752
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,680
want to fly them mid season to 
Africa for let's say we're going

753
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640
to be playing South Africa. 
We don't know who we're playing 

754
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,040
yet. 
So let's say we're playing South

755
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Africa. 
We don't want to fire in the 

756
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,320
gate town. 
So let's put them as neutral as 

757
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,640
possible. 
I know we could probably have 

758
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,120
flown them to France or 
somewhere like that, you know, a

759
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,480
little bit for a journey for 
both places. 

760
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,800
For us it's like a 2 hour bus 
journey down the road. 

761
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160
So it's a whole lot different 
compared to that for them. 

762
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,000
But you know, I think it's a 
good certainly going to 

763
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,800
Newcastle is it's only it's not 
that far. 

764
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,040
It's the 25 LB train to get. 
To Newcastle. 

765
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,880
From Edinburgh, so you know, 
it's quite good that we've got 

766
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,880
this in at stake. 
I think it is good in Newcastle.

767
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,040
Every paper said it is going to 
be in Newcastle and but 

768
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,360
Liverpool is still in 
contention. 

769
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,360
Personally, I'd I'd like the 
whole Dickinson just purely for 

770
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,760
the fact I think the new stadium
is like an absolute not saying 

771
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,040
not saying St. 
James's a bad stadium, great 

772
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,680
stadium right in the heart of 
the city. 

773
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,440
But I just, I just love to try 
the the Hill Dickinson Stadium, 

774
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,080
but probably far in a way the 
ancient James's would just just 

775
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,160
slightly edge it. 
Yeah, it feels more appropriate 

776
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160
for Scotland. 
For some it was like fairly pubs

777
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,800
within a 5 minute walk of the 
stadium as soon as. 

778
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,200
You get off the the train. 
Station. 

779
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,800
Yeah, literally not that far 
away. 

780
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,800
From the stadium. 
It's like 5-10 minute walks, 

781
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,920
it's literally a dream. 
But I've never been to 

782
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,240
Liverpool, so I wouldn't have. 
A clue I've got some some family

783
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:29,080
down in England that are Everton
fan, so I'd get some yeah, I'll,

784
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480
I'll take them if it's if it's 
Liverpool, but yeah, exactly. 

785
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,040
No, but I I hope it's St. 
James's because I think that 

786
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,400
it's renowned for having an 
amazing atmosphere and I think 

787
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360
that's a lot to do with the 
stadium and I think pairing that

788
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,640
with Scotland fans, that would 
be some atmosphere. 

789
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,480
Thank you everyone point even if
it is a friendly. 

790
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,280
Yeah, I think people are saying 
why are we doing this a friendly

791
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560
in England. 
My simple question is why not? 

792
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,200
We've done. 
It, I mean, we played, we played

793
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,560
Brazil. 
What was it? 

794
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,160
Wembley, right? 
Yeah. 

795
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,400
Emirates, Emirates, that was it,
That was it. 

796
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Played Nigeria at Craven Cottage
and yeah, no, the Emirates at 

797
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,520
the time was Brazil's neutral 
ground and I don't know why we 

798
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,800
played Nigeria. 
OK, I can't remember, but I 

799
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600
think it might have been for the
World Cup and that was like a 

800
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,920
stop off place for them if I 
remember greatly because. 

801
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,240
They yeah for. 
Brazil, I think we're 2014 that 

802
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,040
we played them. 
So I think there was a stopover 

803
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,600
point more than anything. 
But we've no, we've played them,

804
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,200
we've played a few teams, you 
know, at a neutral ground 

805
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,200
elsewhere. 
So why not go to Newcastle? 

806
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Why not go to Liverpool to play 
this against an African team? 

807
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,760
It'll be interesting to see 
which African team it's going to

808
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,400
be. 
I've got a sneaky feeling it 

809
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400
will be someone like Cameron who
are a really good side, but 

810
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,800
they've not qualified for the 
World Cup. 

811
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Yeah, so. 
I think I've seen rumors of 

812
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,400
Senegal. 
I'm not sure if that's true, but

813
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,560
I'm sure that sure I read that 
my only. 

814
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,200
Players, like many teams, as 
close. 

815
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,440
To as possible you know as. 
Close to, yeah. 

816
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,120
I mean, like you don't, you 
don't want to be playing like a 

817
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,920
Botswana or something like that 
where they're nowhere near the 

818
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,360
level of Morocco. 
I think it's to get a sense of 

819
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,560
what the football would be like 
against an opposition from that 

820
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,520
region of that same strength. 
So I don't know who would. 

821
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,680
I mean, Morocco I think is 
probably the best African 

822
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040
nation. 
Full stop. 

823
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,440
So I don't know who would get 
close to yeah. 

824
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,720
Afghan start, yeah. 
And that's what I was going to 

825
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:19,920
say. 
It's like if nobody's aware of 

826
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,760
it, it's starting on Sunday. 
So it's a good preparation for 

827
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,080
us to see what. 
We're going to be doing hate 

828
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,200
watch. 
Yeah, hate watch. 

829
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,720
Hopefully they go into the worst
run of form I've all done. 

830
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,600
Yeah, can. 
We get a hate watch in Brazil as

831
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,000
well somehow. 
Just like who do they play? 

832
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,400
Haiti hate watch. 
Yeah. 

833
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,080
I think it'd be good to see 
Morocco action though, 

834
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,760
especially because if you're not
used to seeing these national 

835
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,640
teams because. 
We're not, yeah. 

836
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,920
I've not watched them since, 
since the last World Cup, 

837
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,400
obviously. 
That's. 

838
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,920
What I was going to say about 
Japan, like we've not seen them.

839
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,280
Certainly I've, you know, seen 
the results, but you don't see 

840
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,520
them in action, you know. 
I've not watched a single Japan 

841
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,000
game since they lost to Belgium,
I think. 

842
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Yeah, I think. 
Oh no, no. 

843
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,280
When last World Cup, when they 
did that? 

844
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,200
Yeah, I think I've seen one of 
their their qualifiers. 

845
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,200
I can't remember who was 
against. 

846
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,640
I think it was Australia. 
I can't remember, but certainly 

847
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,040
it's good to see these teams in 
action before you play. 

848
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,520
And I think that's one good 
thing about Afghan for us is 

849
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,520
that we've got you know, we 
could have been drawn with them 

850
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,840
Croatia from Bot 2 and obviously
we don't have we knew all about 

851
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,680
them, whereas now we've got an 
African team who is one of the 

852
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,800
best to that see them in action.
Let's see if other teams can 

853
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,760
into the weaknesses and we can 
probably try and exploit it as 

854
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,240
much as like. 
I'm sure Steve Clark will be 

855
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,520
watching them. 
Yeah. 

856
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,880
Yeah. 
I don't think you'll be going. 

857
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:41,360
Yeah. 
No, no, I know. 

858
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,320
Are you heading off to the to 
the US Nile? 

859
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:50,120
Yes, I'm only going for the 
first two games IET in Morocco, 

860
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,920
so I'm doing 10 nights in 
Boston, flying out on Thursday, 

861
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Thursday the 11th of June, which
is day nice to meet kicks off, 

862
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:05,240
and then I'm back on this Sunday
the 21st, which is two days 

863
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:08,040
after the Morocco game show. 
Nice. 

864
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,400
Should be good, hopefully. 
I need to check check with what 

865
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,440
you're on because I'm flying out
from on the 11th as well. 

866
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Oh nice, nice Dublin, Dublin 
direct. 

867
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:24,240
I just hopefully I can get a 
ticket and I've swallowed my 

868
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,600
parade and accepted that I'm 
going to be paying silly money 

869
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,440
for a ticket, but I've done. 
I just don't want to go. 

870
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480
I'll be over there and not go 
so. 

871
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,200
And they're charging for fan 
zones now. 

872
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Yeah, I've seen that. 
Twelve, $2.50. 

873
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,360
Yeah. 
So it's going to be an ideal 

874
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,240
one, but hopefully it's a 
memorable one. 

875
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,800
Be interested to. 
See what happens like because 

876
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,320
obviously we've got a culture of
like drinking outside the pubs 

877
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,360
and stuff. 
Yeah, and we. 

878
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,040
Call America actually doing 
stuff. 

879
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Like that, you know? 
Yeah. 

880
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,480
So actually sitting watching the
TV, watching the football 

881
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,880
outside. 
We did that in Germany. 

882
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,360
If you can, you get down hands 
on. 

883
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,720
Go to Germany was Germany was 
best two weeks of my life yeah, 

884
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,320
apart. 
From the football. 

885
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. 
I always say when I when I go 

886
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,440
with Scotland it's it's it's 
such a great holiday apart from 

887
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,680
the football. 
That's what I said when I went 

888
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,320
to Athens for the Aberdeen game 
as well. 

889
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,080
Landon Donovan said on him Fox 
Sports, because they're the main

890
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,840
broadcasters for America for the
World Cup. 

891
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,920
He he was saying if you want to 
see anybody in action, go and 

892
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,240
see a Scotland game because just
for the fans, because, you know,

893
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,880
he commentated for Fox on the 
opener and you said he didn't 

894
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,960
care about the football, you 
cared about the fans inside. 

895
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,520
And it was just the atmosphere 
and we could have outnumbered 

896
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,120
those German supporters that. 
Day Oh my God the price of those

897
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,800
tickets though, because I I got 
the Switzerland and hungry 

898
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,560
tickets to supporters club and 
they were extortionate as as and

899
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,560
then for the Germany game it 
came around then I got the 

900
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,720
opportunity to buy it for 400 
each is. 

901
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,240
That not for your dad's was it? 
Did you not want to surprise 

902
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,880
your? 
Dad, I want, yeah, so I was in 

903
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,240
the Germany game with my dad. 
Well, originally I was just 

904
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,480
going with my mates, but we'd 
gambled on flights, so we were 

905
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,760
flying in on the 15th. 
So the only game of the whole 

906
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,280
tournament, the only game of the
whole tournament we were going 

907
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,440
to miss was the Germany opening 
game. 

908
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,280
And we're like, yeah, so one in 
12 chance or whatever it was, 

909
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,440
one in eight chance. 
And obviously be in Scotland, we

910
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,360
get the opening game and then I 
booked flights, a second pair of

911
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,520
flights with my dad to go to the
Germany game of him and then 

912
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,760
spent £900 on 2 tickets to see 
us get absolutely humped I 

913
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000
imagine. 
He wanted to disown you after. 

914
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,000
That. 
I paid. 

915
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,440
I paid for the ticket. 
So do you. 

916
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Ever know about the prices? 
Could I just say. 

917
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,360
That yeah, about a year a year 
later, he. 

918
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,720
Doesn't know you if you're 
listening to the podcast. 

919
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,080
He does. 
He does. 

920
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,720
He does. 
Yeah, it's a good of a culture 

921
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,360
shock time. 
It's like a heart attack. 

922
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,400
What? 
No, but it was a great 

923
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,280
atmosphere and obviously I'll 
never forget that. 

924
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,960
I'm glad we don't have the 
opening game this tournament. 

925
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,640
I'm there from the 11th to the 
27th, I think it is. 

926
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,800
Got all my flights booked, I 
think for the return and then 

927
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,440
the two internal flights that 
came to 900 for the flights. 

928
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,560
So I got lucky with that because
when I'm looking back now, it's 

929
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,240
God, it's 3 or 4 grand if you 
want to do that now. 

930
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,720
Yeah. 
And I'm in staying in 

931
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:27,280
Providence, which we're doing a 
travel and accommodation guide. 

932
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,920
I'll put that in there for 
anyone that wants to keep an eye

933
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,280
out for that because Boston 
Stadium is so far a Boston, it's

934
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,080
the equivalent of from Glasgow 
to the Kelpies. 

935
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,600
So it is a long way of the the 
city. 

936
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,520
So Providence is is a bit 
closer. 

937
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,840
So I'm staying there for 10 or 
11 nights, I think, and then 

938
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,600
flying down to Miami. 
Picturesque. 

939
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Hopefully last game beat Brazil 
and I'll be off to Mexico City. 

940
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,760
I'll be changing my flights. 
Is that in Mexico City or? 

941
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:09,000
Wherever it is, yeah. 
My return flight from Dublin to 

942
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Boston was like 700 lbs. 
And then so that was, I booked 

943
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,200
this Saturday morning, the day 
after the draw, and then the 

944
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Sunday morning it was like 
€3000. 

945
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,440
Yeah, wild. 
So that's like 2700 LB rank, 

946
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,680
something like that. 
So jumped up at 2000 LB It's 

947
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,680
easy. 
Yeah, it was great. 

948
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,280
I'd. 
Like to use this podcast to 

949
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,960
actually probably shame a 
company. 

950
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,960
If that's OK, go. 
On go on. 

951
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,760
There was a literally just 
remembered that and now. 

952
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,080
So there was a hotel pretty much
where you're staying, friend, 

953
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,720
and I think it was because it's 
new. 

954
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,680
England in Providence. 
So there's somewhere in there 

955
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,160
and I was like, right, I'll do 
that. 

956
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,520
So it was not bad like 1500, but
then you go onto your thing, 

957
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,840
onto the booking and they said 
do you want to take your 

958
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120
suitcase? 
If do you that's $500. 

959
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,640
I was just like, I'm not going 
for. 10 days for that. 

960
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,040
Suitcase was that I'm not going 
to wear the same clothes with 

961
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,840
that you. 
Know, yeah. 

962
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,240
With no. 
You need all the Scotland tops. 

963
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,440
Well, yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, I booked, I booked my 

964
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,120
return flights direct from 
Manchester for six hundreds, so 

965
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,840
I'll just get the train down. 
That's good with my dad and 

966
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Nepal and some of his pals. 
And then the the outbound flight

967
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,320
was 450. 
The return flight was 150 or 

968
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,200
something like that. 
And then we looked two days 

969
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,360
later at the outbound flight and
it gone up to 1.8 grand just for

970
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,000
the outbound flight. 
So very happy that I was rushing

971
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,960
when the ceremony or circus was 
going on. 

972
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,920
I was I. 
Was on a train going into 

973
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,480
Edinburgh. 
I know I remember that me and 

974
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,400
James were in his flat ready to 
book whatever because I'd booked

975
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,880
15 different accommodations. 
I'd booked 15 different 

976
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,240
accommodations. 
Refundable. 

977
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,600
It was my past 30th on the on 
this Sunday before so we. 

978
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,360
Were in. 
Edinburgh and as soon as I have 

979
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,240
like why have I not booked it 
came to me like why have I not 

980
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:16,120
done this street? 
Why am I here instead of trying 

981
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,840
to pick up my laptop? 
Can. 

982
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,120
I just jump in whilst we're 
talking, why have you just 

983
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,080
mentioned that Anthony Joseph, 
Sky Sports journalist, has just 

984
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,920
tweeted there that Celtic boss 
Wilfred Nancy has the full 

985
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,080
backing of the board despite 
losing his opening for matches. 

986
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,600
The article reads that the board
are happy with the changing 

987
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,480
system and basically the 
previous full games and the 

988
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,400
games from now until January is 
basically an assessment to see 

989
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,840
who's good enough and who isn't 
good enough to fit his system. 

990
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,400
So I think he's going to be 
backed in January. 

991
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,760
Yeah, so that's a big admission 
from from from the Celtic board 

992
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,920
back in Wilford, Nancy in 
January. 

993
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,200
We'll see how that goes. 
Obviously next game against 

994
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,480
Aberdeen's massive to attempt 
and try and get the Celtic fans 

995
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,040
back on board. 
Is that possible? 

996
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Not sure about that. 
We'll we'll see in due time. 

997
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Thank you both very much for 
coming on. 

998
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,040
Hopefully we have an amazing 
World Cup, an amazing time in 

999
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,880
America. 
Hopefully my bank, it's not in 

1000
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640
the Reds and I'll I'll catch you
guys on the next podcast. 

1001
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,640
Thank you very much for joining.