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Listen to the noise. 
Listen to the passion in Hamden 

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Park. 
Let's jump again. 

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Let's start it. 
Let's move on the grain. 

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Down by dunvish chance, down for
Scotland. 

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Hello and welcome back to the 
Scots with a Mic podcast. 

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I am your host James Scott and 
I'm delighted again to be 

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bringing you another episode. 
We're in a good mood for this 

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one. 
Scotland have just reached the 

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halfway point in their World Cup
qualification campaign and it 

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was a good one. 
It was a three one win against 

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the geeks, a bit of a roller 
coaster. 

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There was lots of highs and lows
throughout the 90 and we've got 

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2, 2 speakers on to discuss it 
with me today. 

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Our regular on the podcast is 
Adam from Gorky Talk. 

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Adam, how we doing? 
Very well after that result, 

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James. 
Very well mate. 

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I definitely. 
And also we've got a special 

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guest coming on, someone that's 
not been on before, Gordon Shea 

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from the Tartan Scarf. 
Gordon, How are we doing? 

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Good. 
Very good. 

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Very, very good. 
Like you said, just good, good, 

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good to be sitting in this place
where we are right now. 

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Yeah, halfway through the group.
Good, good, good. 

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Yeah, I've known Garden for a 
while, so it's good to get an 

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old friend on the podcast with 
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So first of all, who was at the 
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Who was in the stadium? 
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I was there in my kind of a I've
I've taken up a new spot this 

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for this campaign, some sort of 
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really nice view over the top of
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opposite end from where most of 
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You still got a pretty good view
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South stand or pretty much 
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Even at the opposite end you 
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What about yard number are you? 
You're at home for this one, I 

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think. 
I was a first half, I was at 

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Porter Bell High School for my 
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And so shout out for Muscle 
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And so I was watching out my 
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Between that and my son's 
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probably a bit better, but we'll
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And then a second-half, I was 
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second-half actually. 
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than the first half. 
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we'll we'll get into that later 
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Fair enough. 
I mean, I thought you were going

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to say you messed the first half
completely, no. 

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No, no, that messed the first 
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No, you didn't mess much, to be 
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Yeah, it was a game with a good 
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results are the only thing that 
qualify for major tournaments. 

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Which is true. 
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first. 
Dead Scotland's performance 

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merit and deserve the one. 
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performance. 
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Clark's perspective, he is 
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That's the results business. 
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at the helm, he's never really 
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you're going to get tech attack 
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It's all going to be like all 
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entertaining stuff, right? 
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we've we have looked really 
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Then it has been good 
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But he's right. 
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we'd rather play up, as you 
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result, then play really well 
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So I think though, if you think 
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Greece and again, just take like
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the circumstances to work in our
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argue second-half we've done 
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first half we've done what we 
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So I wouldn't say we don't 
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Maybe say that obviously when 
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happened, it maybe flattered us 
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Yeah, but I wouldn't say that. 
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it was heading for a draw at one
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out the back and forth with the 
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second-half. 
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didn't deserve it. 
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what we could and then the 
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again we'll go into, and they 
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in the second-half. 
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The change will come into the 
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were definitely pivotal and 
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direction. 
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with me watching it last night, 
a similar take from you on that.

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certainly pre match there was a 
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nascent growing optimism. 
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results in the last 12 months or
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come and gone a little bit. 
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summer's EUR was obviously a 
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And then you go into a nation's 
league game where you start with

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three losses in a row and you're
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going to win again ever? 
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really strongly in that nation's
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We do really well. 
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we get the draw against against 
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Poland out out there and then 
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And then again, a tale of two 
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You you're just so devastated by
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Greece. 
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game started, you thought this 
could be a similar story to what

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the game was in March. 
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have we learned here? 
What have we gained? 

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But ultimately, you know, as as 
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the result is what matters here.
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halfway, halfway in this group 
with all of the power in our own

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hands, all of our destiny in our
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We're in as good a place as we 
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And again, let's let's not 
pretend that we haven't had 

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games, but in the past we've all
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enough to know that we've seen 
games where we've played really,

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really well in matches and not 
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So ultimately, this time fate 
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night. 
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But that's that's something 
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what you need to get back to 
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World Cups. 
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something you said there because
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like I've seen a lot of this 
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there was a season we got 
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played well and we we just 
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And there will be, there will be
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there will be some teams who go 
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championships and they do have 
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they still managed to find a way
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Good teams play bad at times but
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I don't know if Geese are kind 
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that right now because the lack 
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times with the younger boys. 
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They had chances and they 
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first half alone. 
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have gone in behind and Clark, 
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you know, the game in March, we 
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The game was relatively similar,
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go into no down. 
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second-half obviously still went
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wasn't by no means sort of 
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And then we got turned over and 
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and kick on, get something later
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So yes, I mean, for me it was 
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but you know, the last half or 
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And again Clark said, what was 
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Sometimes you don't get what you
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sometimes you get a little bit 
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But like like many a time before
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games we've been involved in 
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not go what they deserved. 
Well, I mean, we'll touch on the

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goals. 
Lewis Ferguson firstly, first 

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goal for Scotland in his 19th 
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For a moment from him I would 
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was obviously man of the match. 
We see any of yours man of the 

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match or is there anyone else 
you want to pull and you think 

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was also very good on a day? 
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page about Liz Ferguson today, 
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I know I think about Liz 
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I just think he's just really 
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I think he's always had 
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that's why he is now also over 
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success there as well. 
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now that he's getting that 
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the more you've seen him 
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And again, he's like, he's like 
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Our team, we have a lot of 
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midfielders are quite fluid as 
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So like the Ferguson, they can 
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whatever. 
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He can move around. 
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numerous possessions, albeit we 
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A10, but you know, is starting 
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comfortable because obviously 
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different to anything else, 
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an opportunity. 
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a sort of running games, you're 
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puts himself in the right places

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at the right time in the box 
thinking that deep line 

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position. 
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really well. 
I thought well at the chop and 

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change what he was doing last 
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wherever he was put and and 
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The Dirty work that needed done 
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actually just looked a bit more 
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is like streetwise. 
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on previous podcasts, but I feel
like Greece are still that are 

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really talented squad and like 
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young and hanging with that that
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They are quite naive like they 
were given away silly fouls last

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night. 
Scotland went out like nearly 23

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kicks and and yeah, I just felt 
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people at were were causing all 
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they were playing the game as 
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technical side to Greece. 
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on and things weren't going 
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the pitch were actually sensing 
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for that progression he's making
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really looks like a proper 
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Yeah, so big Showtime for me. 
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would just want to build, build,
build on what you say there, 

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Adam, about the kind of that 
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And I think that's something 
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impressed me, especially over 
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team has developed under Clark 
that, you know, again, we've, 

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we've all seen Scotland games in
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arguably bullied by teams. 
You know, we've, we've been the 

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ones that have been sort of held
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they've mastered the dark arts 
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mastered the tempo of the game. 
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getting really, really good at 
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I think especially maybe 
slightly fortunate, but just the

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fact that we were able to 
equalize so quickly after they 

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scored because obviously the 
atmosphere was turning quite bad

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given that we'd we'd had a full 
hour of not very entertaining or

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exciting or exhilarating 
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Then obviously you have the 
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Hickey go off injured. 
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pre match was Hickeys in the 
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They weren't there in March. 
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difference makers. 
Both of them go off at broadly 

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the same time and then we go one
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All that combined in the stadium
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Immediately I just remember 
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A. 100% it. 
Felt the game was only going one

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way at that point. 
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well because obviously I got a 
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then I put the I, I Fast forward
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see the Grease score, the 
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days. 
It was all a night of ignominy 

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for Scotland. 
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if it's been coming all night. 
And they weren't really, it did 

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feel like they were really 
hamming it up, though, how 

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terrible the conceding this goal
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It was as as if it was we we'd 
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fifth goal this night of 
ignominy. 

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quickly, that then suddenly put 
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Greece. 
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coped with it very well. 
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And what was really impressive 
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turning the screw, getting the 
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making them make mistakes. 
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challenges they were flying 
into, the way they were going 

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down, looking for fouls, staying
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I think collectively their heads
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And from that moment onwards, it
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were the only team that was 
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Because you're seeing a bit 
master in the dark arts. 

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There was a, there's plenty of 
them rolling about in the ground

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at points and you know, claiming
for fails. 

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It looked very soft. 
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kicks, especially down in front 
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we got a fair few and quite 
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Free kicks at the I'd say they 
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stuff that was like you said, 
not streetwise and it those sort

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of errors put pressure on you. 
Balls in the box. 

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Things happen obviously quite 
quick after they score crusty 

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grabs at 1st and it just wasn't 
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last weekend from the Greek side
of things. 

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He did say the younger guys not 
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know how experience at this 
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tournaments, know what it takes 
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They did this kind of crumble 
and you know, and the crowd 

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really helped what I felt they 
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of the 90. 
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the frustrations of the fans. 
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they're clearly frustrated, 
which I can understand and I can

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get behind. 
He's like, but sometimes it 

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doesn't help. 
But equally the players have got

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to give the players something 
that players have got to give 

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the fans even something to to 
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at home than it can. 
When it's quiet it really shows.

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But as soon as that first goal 
went and even when we got the 

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free check to put the ball on 
the box for Christie, I really 

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noticed the rally and cry from 
the fans and you know it was a 

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joint effort from everyone in 
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the pitch to get us over the 
line. 

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I felt when I was talking about 
Ferguson been Mara much yeller 

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though I think one guy I wanted 
to touch on I thought was 

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brilliant for Scotland last 
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his goal as well. 100% passing 
rate, 100% successful dribbles, 

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0 times dispossessed. 
He was a 62nd cap and his eight 

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goal for me. 
I thought he was a man of the 

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match, one of the best players 
in the pitch and he, just like 

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you said, a lot of streetwise 
moments when he took the ball 

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and recycled that well, gave 
himself space, helped other guys

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out and even helped drive us 
through the smaller gaps, 

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carrying the ball in the areas. 
I felt he was one of our best 

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players and I don't know if he 
if it's not because he's a John 

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McGann or Scotland comedy was 
last noticed. 

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But for me, I thought he was 
brilliant. 

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Obviously the goals from the 
boys got the crowd going. 

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When you look at the stats of 
the game, one thing I couldn't 

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believe because I think we could
all agree could E dominate the 

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first half and the second-half 
felt more split across the two 

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teams, more even like contested.
But for the possession stats 

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overall we were only 33%, but in
the second-half we only had 222%

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possession in the second-half, 
which is incredibly low. 

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I can't actually believe it was 
that low. 

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And along with that, we only had
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XG. 
But it's just one of those games

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were really we made our own luck
in the end. 

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The final goal came just after a
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If you've not seen it in the 
highlights or didn't get a 

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chance to appreciate during the 
game like myself when I was at 

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the opposite end of the stadium,
that save happened at 21 against

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what was a very good shot from 
characters very similar to his 

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goal at the opposite end that he
scored in the playoffs. 

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I mean, the guy that's not 
played much league football at 

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all since last summer because of
his move to Nottingham Forest 

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and been down the pecking order 
there. 

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For him to coming out the cold 
and produce a moment like that 

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to arguably get the win for us, 
I mean, what a moment for him as

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well. 
Yeah, I think you're right. 

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You've kind of touched on that. 
That is obviously not getting 

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game time. 
I think I did see an interview 

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actually on Sky Sports just a 
few days ago talking to Gunn 

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about how obviously didn't think
it was going to be that way when

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he went to forest and he seen it
as an opportunity. 

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And obviously like he sees down 
the pick and order in the And I 

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think there we've kind of 
recognized in various media 

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outlets that as a sort of 
goalkeeping issue there with 

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obviously were maybe maybe not 
us not naive, but I suppose as a

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nation naive. 
You know, we'll have McGregor, 

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Marshall and Gordon forever. 
So I think and before we know 

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it, nowhere came to, you know, 
putting Gordon back in a squad 

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just in case Gun can't make it 
because that's who Clark can 

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only rely on because it isn't 
really anybody else that wants 

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to rely on. 
So yeah, that's the kind of 

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scenario we're in. 
But and seeing that think that 

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where it's due. 
I actually fought watching Gun 

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last night and I was watching it
at home. 

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But again, sometimes you get 
that a different viewpoint of 

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it. 
I felt like Gun for for someone 

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who's not got game time is still
looked like someone who was a 

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regular on a team every week, if
that makes sense. 

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He still looked comfortable. 
He still looked assured in the 

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position. 
He was confident. 

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He kept speaking at the back 
four. 

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Yeah, I felt like like he hadn't
been away from my first team 

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action, whereas obviously he's 
saying he's constant on the 

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bench. 
I think it does help him having 

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like sickly Gordon the year I 
think he mentioned that himself.

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He can learn a lot for people 
like Craig Gordon. 

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So know that that helps him in 
the camps and that may be 

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another reason why Clark still 
takes Gordon along as well. 

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And albeit because Gordon hasn't
had any game time himself to 

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injuries and and whatever else. 
But yeah, the save itself, like,

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like you say, James, at that 
stage in the game. 91st minute. 

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That that, by the way, that kid,
again, I don't know if he stole 

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17, The commentators say yes. 
It feels like he's 17 forever 

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but I believe. 
Next month or so I'm. 

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Sure. 
Anyway, regardless, the grease 

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spend oak came on and was 
starting to cause us all sort of

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problems. 
But yeah, top save it was very 

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similar that you say to the goal
they actually got and see, when 

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you look at the stats as well, 
we're going back on that. 

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And like I say, watching it from
home, I feel like we came to 

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more as like from commentators 
wise and things Latin in the 

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builder. 
I feel like we gave these a 

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little bit too much respect. 
Like, I mean that in the sense 

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of like, again, we're more 
focusing on, you know, that 

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they're technically good, that 
they can cause people problems 

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and things like that. 
But to be honest, last night 

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they did have OK, a couple of 
chances and whatever, but like 

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the XG, there wasn't very much 
difference. 

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We had a lot, they had a lot of 
the ball, but there wasn't like 

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there wasn't a lot happening. 
Like we did contain them quite 

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well. 
We cleared a lot of things away 

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with, like I said, we were 
streetwise in our approach. 

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I think the commentary mentioned
like first half how the biggest 

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issues seem to be like we didn't
know when to press and when it 

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set off kind of thing. 
And I think it's because of how 

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well Greece had to like kept the
ball. 

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But I think we just bathed our 
time with that. 

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And then let's say in that 
moment, like I thought it went 

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and you know, guns, guns saved 
us there in a sense because 

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especially with the Cadets is 
coming on, he gets his goal just

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like he did, you know, however 
long ago a few months back and 

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again caused that nightmare for 
us. 

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It would have been thinking of 
Deja vu. 

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It's all going to happen again. 
And then we would have been back

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to. 
That point like you never know 

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where the game goes. 
Yeah, we deem backs to the wall 

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again, he gets equalizer and 
it's back to the wall. 

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So yeah, a big, big moment from 
a guy who has not seen any first

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team action at all. 
So I thought Gun had a good game

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and that was a great moment 
from. 

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Because he wasn't actually 
tested most of the game. 

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Like you see, I didn't I don't 
know, only he made a couple of 

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saves you'd expect them to make.
There was obviously the Madison 

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Pavilidas first half, which I 
mean yeah, that's that goes in 

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99 * 100 years bet especially 
onto a striker has quali. 

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That was the first time I really
felt gun was stretched and he 

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answered the call. 
It was you know, I was standing 

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a minute later. 
We then go up the park lending 

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dykes. 
I mean when I was in the car on 

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the way home the word luck was 
getting thrown around about the 

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keeper spelling it. 
But he doesn't exact, I mean for

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me he doesn't spell it 5 yards. 
London Dykes made his own luck 

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there because he gambled and 
pushed a right in the keeper 

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when other guys might not have 
and let the large stages of the 

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game. 
I mean he's club football wise 

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things have been up and down 
from recently. 

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But for Scotland I personally 
feel like he's some dependable. 

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Were you glad to see him grab 
that goal? 

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Gordon? 
Apart from obvious reasons, it 

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was the one that put us we 
better daylight just to see us 

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over the line. 
Make it 3/1 How good was London?

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And like I said, just making 
that happen there. 

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Gordon Canada Gordon can add a 
tongue in cheek question and 

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that Gordon, did he actually try
and miss it? 

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London as well, course. 
I mean, yeah, I can't. 

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I can't. 
I can't believe like he could he

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could have literally walked it 
in, but decides that he wants to

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curl it into the top corner just
for just for the hell of it. 

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I mean, how how much can you 
possibly say about Linden Dykes?

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I mean, genuinely, I think he 
will rightfully go down as 

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again, maybe not one of the 
best, maybe not one of the most 

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gifted strikers Scotland has 
ever had, but certainly one of 

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the most effective and efficient
strikers and rightly one of the 

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most beloved. 
I think you look at obviously 

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last night was his 10th 
international goal for Scotland.

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And I was thinking back this 
morning about just like all of 

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his other goals, and I think 
borderline almost every single 

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one of them was either a winning
goal, a goal to give us the 

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lead, a goal off the bench. 
Like he makes an impact almost 

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everywhere he does. 
I think I've, I've something 

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described him as sort of like 
the human embodiment of just a 

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fist in human form because he 
just is just a relentless 

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physical assault on a defence. 
And it's exactly what you need. 

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And again, James, you're, 
you're, you're absolutely right 

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in saying that like he gambles. 
He, he, he makes that run again 

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when when the ball breaks off 
him, it breaks off the defender.

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I'm sure he'd be gutted that he 
hadn't taken in first time 

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properly. 
Yeah. 

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And as the ball's going to the 
goalkeeper, the defender is 

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between dykes and and and and 
and the ball, but he make, he 

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goes quicker than defender. 
He thinks quicker than defender,

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then moves quicker than 
defender. 

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So when the ball does spill, 
he's the first there to react to

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it and it's not the defender to 
just shepherd it out. 

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So he's absolutely brilliant and
he deserves everything he gets. 

447
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,280
He deserves all the praise he 
gets. 

448
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,280
Still broadly gutted that 
obviously he got injured before 

449
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,360
the last EUR. 
That was absolutely 

450
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,720
heartbreaking for him at least. 
Obviously he got to go to Euro 

451
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,680
2020, which was a good thing for
him. 

452
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:45,240
But yeah, what a guy. 
And, and again, hopefully again,

453
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,560
I'm sure we might look ahead to 
Sunday and I, I hope he starts, 

454
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,960
I hope he starts on Sunday and 
you can add to that tally. 

455
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,960
No, it'd be good because I think
he played well in Copenhagen, 

456
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,400
you know, he did well, He was 
required of him there. 

457
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,080
And obviously there's a chance. 
I felt like he could have done a

458
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,680
little bit better with maybe he 
wasn't the guy you wanted to 

459
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,080
fall to. 
Because I do feel like a lot of 

460
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,640
his goals are one touch finishes
or ones like that where he makes

461
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,320
it happen. 
It's not like he's not someone 

462
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,880
who's going to cut one and the 
edge of the box. 

463
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760
But I feel like he has been good
for Scotland and he there has 

464
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,320
been a bit of criticism recently
around our strike force, the 

465
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200
options we've got. 
But Linden Dyke, so he doesn't 

466
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880
always give us goals. 
And he said in terms of the 

467
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:29,040
human fest, he's a batter ram. 
He gives defenders problems and 

468
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,760
he his work creates incredible. 
So yeah, for me I'd be I'd be 

469
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,960
brilliant see him start Sunday. 
I'd love to see him get another 

470
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,560
rerun the team because I think 
it does help when guys like 

471
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040
McDonald as well. 
She Adams is a different sort of

472
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,240
striker. 
He doesn't take up defenders 

473
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,120
sort of attention the same way 
Dykes does. 

474
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,480
And that maybe doesn't give guys
like McDonald as much space, you

475
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,400
know what I mean? 
I think, I think that's, I know 

476
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,720
you want goals from strikers, 
but I do feel there's more time 

477
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800
across. 
I mean, first half we didn't 

478
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,160
play well and a lot of people 
put that down to Clark's tactics

479
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,640
More not, but Geese, we had a 
good side coming into the 

480
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720
second-half. 
Clark makes the changes. 

481
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,520
For me, those changes were like 
the momentum swinger in the 

482
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,680
game, bringing on Belly, 
Gilmore, obviously Ralston was 

483
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,000
forced on for a hacky through 
injury. 

484
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,080
Dykes as well coming on, such a 
good call by Clark there that 

485
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,040
you know it was a material 
change in the game. 

486
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,720
I felt bringing those guys on 
belly allowed us to control the 

487
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,280
game a little bit more. 
And obviously Dykes just with a 

488
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280
hustle and bustle him up front, 
eventually getting his goal. 

489
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,920
Clark, for all his Curtis, he 
doesn't know what he's doing. 

490
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Yeah, thank you. 
Let's just see the Scottish 

491
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,280
chavi delivers again. 
Am I right, James? 

492
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,240
This is a joke. 
Bella Gilmore. 

493
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,680
This is a joke last a few 
episodes ago. 

494
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,480
I think it might be one of the 
Belarus ones. 

495
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Adam described Bella Gilmore as 
the Scottish Chavi and been. 

496
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,640
I don't know if it's just 
because I'm from Fife or what, 

497
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,000
but when I heard that in my head
I knew what you mean. 

498
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:11,000
But the first thing I in my head
it jumped, it was Chavi, he's 

499
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,600
gone, he's gone. 
And he said he's gone. 

500
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,920
You mean he's got to be in the 
team? 

501
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,400
He's a Scottish Chavey. 
And I was like, I was like me, 

502
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,520
they're all Scottish Chavey. 
That's why they play for 

503
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,200
Scotland. 
I was getting absolutely torn 

504
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,800
apart in the chat for that 
afterwards. 

505
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:30,400
But yeah, I mean, he was like 
you said, he's just got that 

506
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,640
ability to really help us out on
the ball when we're under 

507
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,760
pressure, get the passes gone. 
He controls the game. 

508
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,480
I mean, I think like, don't get 
me wrong, there's like an 

509
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560
abundance of competition in that
midfield data and that cannot be

510
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,000
an easy area for clocks to pick.
It's a good headache to have, 

511
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,040
right, But I just feel like 
belly Gilmore, he always 

512
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,680
provides you with that bit 
equality, not bit assurance, and

513
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,800
he will just grab a game any 
midfield. 

514
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,040
And this is a fingers bill, 
right? 

515
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,320
It's not just like he needs to 
face certain teams. 

516
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,680
So you know, like if you know, 
there's always like this talk 

517
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,800
about how Chi Adams or scored 
against teams that are like like

518
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,120
Belarus, for example, they only 
scored against those type of 

519
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,200
teams. 
If you put Bella go on a team 

520
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,920
you then only put a man against,
like I say, a Belarus, you came 

521
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,360
on against Greece last night, 
takes the game by the scruff of 

522
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:24,640
the neck. 
And it's just by like the sheer 

523
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,480
technical brilliance that he has
is somebody who we don't produce

524
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000
players like that very often. 
I think even at the EUR where it

525
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,200
was no, no against England, all 
that talk about like England, 

526
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Smithfield and again Billy 
Gilmore was was a shining light.

527
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,040
So yeah, I think he really 
helped us. 

528
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,200
So the move for Christie as 
well. 

529
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,080
Christie was playing well when 
he was, but obviously again, 

530
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,000
moving him around. 
I don't think I didn't see 

531
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000
should have been Duck went off. 
Somebody said he wasn't happy. 

532
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760
I seen online I didn't see that 
then. 

533
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,920
I don't see that to know if he 
wasn't happy or if it was just 

534
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480
more, you know, that way where 
players can get be competitive 

535
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240
and they just want to stay on 
and they want to do something 

536
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,600
about it. 
I don't know if it was that kind

537
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,680
of day. 
I didn't see it. 

538
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,800
So I'm not not too sure what 
what people are meaning, but 

539
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,800
that. 
Was for me, I mean, did Ben Doke

540
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,080
is undeniably best young talent.
If you're not going to include 

541
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Gilmore now that he's a little 
bit older, he is the next big 

542
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,240
thing coming through in that 
national team. 

543
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,440
But I did feel last night, 
again, like you said, there's 

544
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,920
anticipation coming back. 
Or maybe Gordon said the 

545
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480
anticipation coming into his 
faction was bad techie and Bad 

546
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Ben do come back. 
And two guys we didn't have in 

547
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160
March that were going to be big 
difference makers. 

548
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,440
I really felt Ben Dook was miles
off it last night. 

549
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,160
I mean people might disagree but
the time he got behind he didn't

550
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,440
really pretty much for us and 
for me. 

551
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,000
When I got to half time I was 
sitting with my dad, my friends 

552
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,280
and we looked each other and 
whose obvious change here and 

553
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,440
all three of us agreed it was 
dog. 

554
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Yeah, I think like, I think 
you're right, James, like in the

555
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,360
sense like he was off at, he had
a couple of moments, you know, 

556
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,200
down the line, the sort of 
amazing runs you want. 

557
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,360
And I think he at one point that
maybe the he played off the guy 

558
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,040
in a minute for a corner or each
other moment. 

559
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720
And then he sort of fell down 
the patch towards the billboards

560
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,120
and was trying to like sort of 
seen a hand gesture at the code 

561
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:15,280
to see like, come on, let's get 
in. 

562
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,880
So, you know, he was he was 
trying to do, you know, the 

563
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,080
things that he can do. 
But yeah, just wasn't, I'm the 

564
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,160
same as what you just said 
there. 

565
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Like it had been. 
If we're talking about making 

566
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000
changes, it'd be one of the 
first people, if not the first, 

567
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,160
like I'd want to go. 
And it's just because it wasn't 

568
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,840
his night. 
And let's be fair, he's still 

569
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,520
young as well. 
Like he's he's going to get 

570
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,680
better, he's going to improve. 
He's got a good move to 

571
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,520
Bournemouth now, you know, had 
an assessed just before the 

572
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,560
international break there when 
Bournemouth got a win. 

573
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,200
And so, you know, as long as you
can stay firmly first team stuff

574
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,720
at Bournemouth at that kind of 
level, he's going to be huge for

575
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720
us in years to come. 
But I just felt like end the 

576
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,640
game at that time. 
Again, Clark something doesn't 

577
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080
get enough credit for this. 
Like he changes games at the 

578
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,320
right time in the right moments.
And it was the same with the 

579
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640
dykes thing as well with you 
know, we were talking about just

580
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560
the earlier about how dykes and 
it's just like a nuisance like 

581
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,200
something, even if you haven't 
got the goal, let's say, like 

582
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,920
causes defenders like problems. 
It pulls some places they don't 

583
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320
want to go right. 
I think that summed them up 

584
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
because Adams was like he was 
another one that was going to 

585
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,760
frustrate me a little bit. 
But you're right is how he came 

586
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,080
to place. 
The game isn't like Dykes and 

587
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,760
when dates came on like I think 
I'm sure it was like within a 

588
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400
minute I'm coming on. 
I think like Gunn had maybe kept

589
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,160
up the patch looking for Dykes 
and the way dates leaped up, I 

590
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,520
swearly jumped up like about 7 
foot in there. 

591
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,000
And one they had that they had, 
they went about 10 yards on the 

592
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
next person and it was like an 
instant problem for a grease at 

593
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,320
the back where they fought was 
not to deal with us for 80 

594
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,040
minutes. 
So didn't know how to even 

595
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,240
handle them. 
So, yeah, the changes were were 

596
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,720
a really, really big deal in 
getting us that one last night. 

597
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480
And Clark again deserves credit 
for what he'd saved. 

598
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,280
Is just just about getting the 
result right. 

599
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Yeah, 100%. 
I think I think the challenge I 

600
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,360
had with them with Gallon Dog 
last night is that I wasn't 

601
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,960
quite sure why he was on the 
left because obviously, you 

602
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,600
know, he's he's predominantly 
right footed and really had 

603
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,080
successful as last year in 
nations League. 

604
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880
You know, it was in that right 
wing position just being able to

605
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,440
take the ball in and burn past 
for the full back and keep the 

606
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560
full back on strings and get the
byline. 

607
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,640
And if that's what he wants to 
do, if he wants to drive the 

608
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,520
byline, put the ball in, he's 
not really going to do that very

609
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840
often on his left foot. 
So I just wasn't quite sure if 

610
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,400
we were setting him up for 
success. 

611
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,880
The most way to play the left 
and. 

612
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Again, that's all that was. 
That shocked me as well. 

613
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,720
Because me again, whenever he's 
putting away position is always 

614
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,840
on the left as well, Something 
tactically they're trying to do 

615
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800
different. 
But just for me it didn't work 

616
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,840
because I think McGann was 
another guy. 

617
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,840
I got touched on the radio and 
stuff as well on the BBC when I 

618
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,280
was reading online too. 
He was just not absent for most 

619
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,880
of the first half, you know? 
Especially. 

620
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760
Even if even if you say Gordon, 
like you said a bit like I'm 

621
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,360
being inverted. 
So see, like they were, you 

622
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,600
know, Mcgannway's left on the 
right and talk on the left on 

623
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000
the left with his right foot. 
I think you could see like a 

624
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040
clear part of them, like going 
in like on an inverted when you 

625
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640
could understand us daily play. 
But like you've pointed out, it 

626
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,320
doesn't make sense when it feels
like in the past all the 

627
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,680
problems for Ganondo has always 
been when he's been on the right

628
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,040
and then all suddenly finished 
it. 

629
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,320
And especially, especially with 
the with the way the game was 

630
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,760
going in the first half where we
were spending most of the time 

631
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,720
in our own half with Greece 
having the ball. 

632
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,440
I just kept thinking you you 
reference it there, Adam, about 

633
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,080
Ganondoke's first assist for 
Bournemouth. 

634
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,080
And if you haven't seen it, that
was what the picture I had when 

635
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,920
I. 
Went that's the right. 

636
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,080
Frankly, I think I think we will
see that quite a few times over 

637
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440
the coming years for Scotland 
where in that game, so basically

638
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,880
it was Bournemouth against 
Fulham and Bournemouth are 

639
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,280
leading 21 and Fulham have got a
corner and they've thrown 

640
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000
everyone up for it right in the 
last couple of minutes. 

641
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,720
The game ball breaks, 
Bournemouth can hit a quick 

642
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,120
counter and Ganondoke is just on
his bike down the right wing and

643
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120
the ball just gets sent right 
ahead of him into the channel 

644
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240
and he bursts through clear. 
But he's got the presence of 

645
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080
mind to look up, play the 
perfect ball across for Semenyo 

646
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,720
to score first time. 
And I'm like, that felt like 

647
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,080
with the way the game was going 
last night, I was like, that's 

648
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,680
how we're going to score here is
that if you've got someone with 

649
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,760
that speed and pace down the 
wing, it keeps the defense 

650
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,680
honest a little bit that they 
know that they can't just throw 

651
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,400
everyone forward because we've 
got such an incredible speed 

652
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,240
demon on the counter and then 
you take him off. 

653
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,160
You did think, how are we going 
to score in this game? 

654
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Because we're, we're not, we're 
not spending any time in their 

655
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,720
half. 
It was. 

656
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,200
It was. 
You think You think they've done

657
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,560
it? 
Sorry it. 

658
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Was the kind of moment when Ben 
Doke went off as well. 

659
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,480
It was the kind of moment like 
when again we said, who would 

660
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,480
you take off? 
Ben Doke and we're going, well, 

661
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,440
who would you want to bring on? 
Right. 

662
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,000
And I was like, probably Ben 
Doke like it's it was a sort of 

663
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,280
moment in the game as you felt 
they were maybe going to be 

664
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,000
getting more tired. 
You're like, this is actually 

665
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,480
the point. 
You don't want to bring them on.

666
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,760
It was just, it was a shame as 
game materialized in that way. 

667
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,200
Yeah. 
I think they've done it effect 

668
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,960
they've done it to count our 
semicast on the left. 

669
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,880
So obviously she's couldn't 
again on that side defeat like a

670
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880
sort of in this sort of 
conservative sense of what what 

671
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,920
robustness McGann can bring. 
And obviously hecky was slightly

672
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,520
higher and certainly looked 
higher and he was playing higher

673
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,880
for the first half anyway and 
was there that say to as well 

674
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,200
maybe just to get offer that 
cover. 

675
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,440
We'll just see how hecky and 
Duke on the on Ganondoke sorry 

676
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,360
on the right then it's maybe too
aggressive than that one side. 

677
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,280
I don't know I'm just that ball 
and I suppose, but maybe it was 

678
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,240
that, but it just either way, 
either way, that element Clark 

679
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,080
frankfully for us to let you see
you recognized and changed it. 

680
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,000
Yeah. 
And I think I think as as as we 

681
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
alluded to earlier, like 
definitely bringing on Billy 

682
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,800
Gilmore changed that game 100%. 
I mean, he is like you, you, you

683
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,720
said it yourself, Adam, He is 
our a special talent. 

684
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,680
He's a different talent. 
He's a unique talent. 

685
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,520
And I think what we lacked with 
Christine Ferguson playing in 

686
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800
those sort of deeper midfield 
roles is that when they were 

687
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,240
taking the ball off the 
defenders, they were very much 

688
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,480
facing backwards and they 
weren't often able to take the 

689
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,400
ball in the half turn and turn 
up field. 

690
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,840
So, so much of our passing was 
purely from center back to 

691
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,480
defender to fill back. 
Whereas Billy Gilmore, just his 

692
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,920
absolute spatial awareness is 
just 2nd 10 on that squad, 100%.

693
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,440
He's all, he never looks 
harried. 

694
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,960
He never looks worried. 
He never looks stressed and he 

695
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080
always looks like he's got more.
He's got all the time in the 

696
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960
world because he knows the touch
he has to take before the ball 

697
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,000
comes to him. 
So he's always turning in space 

698
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,639
and he can always open the game 
up and he just makes the pitch 

699
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,520
feel bigger. 
And frankly, that that's 

700
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,600
something that is, is what 
Grease was so good at in the 

701
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,320
first hour. 
You know, there was the guy 

702
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,760
sitting behind me and they kept 
saying it's like they've got an 

703
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,440
extra man. 
Like how do they keep doing 

704
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,040
this? 
How do they always have a free 

705
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,920
man all the time? 
That same thing, he's like they 

706
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,760
we don't 10 men in this game. 
Somehow you said we just we just

707
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,520
look, they just look like they 
have that one extra guy. 

708
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,520
You know, we were setting to 
every ball. 

709
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,719
You know, the game was they were
just on top of us and they 

710
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719
couldn't seem there's the white 
sharks just felt like they were 

711
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,040
everywhere. 
I mean, one last thing, I won't 

712
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,360
touch one of us. 
We're saying Clark made some 

713
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,840
changes there and during the 
game it really benefited US1 

714
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,440
change he made back in August 
was to bring in set piece coach 

715
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,840
Andrew Hughes along with 
bringing in Naismith as I think 

716
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,280
he's assistant manager now that 
Carver's gone. 

717
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,120
Both those goals that we scored 
the first two of the night came 

718
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,080
from sort of set piece routines.
We lost Austin McPhee last year,

719
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,400
I think maybe earlier end of 
last year and he was quite, he 

720
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
would you could he was 
influential for us because he's 

721
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,760
a very talented coach. 
There was definitely times, 

722
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,400
especially like in the Denmark 
game at home when we got our 

723
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,960
first one is headed back across 
the box to John Sooter, who 

724
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,480
scores, you know, the corner 
that goes in. 

725
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,880
It was night. 
I felt you really noticed the 

726
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,760
effects of having a later stages
of the game. 

727
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,120
I think even when the ball was 
floated across by Robertson to 

728
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:55,400
the back post for the second, he
was out in the technical area 

729
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,680
barking instructions onto the 
patch, making gestures about 

730
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440
what he was wanting to happen. 
I mean, it's good. 

731
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,120
I really feel like we've got a 
guy we're seeing, you know? 

732
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,560
Clark has made a change in his 
paying dividends already, even 

733
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:15,800
in the small moments. 
Yeah, I think set piece coach is

734
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,920
not something you need to preach
to me as a Hearts fan. 

735
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,520
We got we got Ross, we got Ross 
Grant and in the summer and 

736
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,600
we've made a lot of signings, 
but he's up there as the best 

737
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,840
signing for us. 
Like Hearts have been corner 

738
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,880
King's champion since I've 
probably been about 8 year old 

739
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,720
so but we're probably the 
Champions in not scoring them 

740
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,640
either. 
So this season's seen a massive 

741
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,000
turn around. 
We haven't like a set piece 

742
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,080
coach. 
First time we've ever really had

743
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,320
one. 
Obviously we had ultimate fee 

744
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,440
for a bet for Ross Grant. 
What will estimate fee at the 

745
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,160
national team. 
And again we've let's say we've 

746
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,840
got the new set piece of coach 
and I just think that they are 

747
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000
actually a really good thing to 
have in the game. 

748
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040
I just think they all for you a 
different outlay, an edge 

749
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,400
sometimes in games as well, 
clearly an edge based on what 

750
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,040
happened like you say last 
night. 

751
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,280
And it's really different as 
well to see someone that's not 

752
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,800
the head coach, like given 
instructions to players that set

753
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,720
pieces and stuff that's, you 
know, it's not head coach, not 

754
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,880
the assistant. 
It's like another coach. 

755
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,360
It's like, for example, the 
striker coach stunt in the other

756
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960
linesman to give like the, you 
know, somebody to show not to be

757
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,120
off site. 
It's that kind of thing, you 

758
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,040
know what I mean? 
It's it's different to see. 

759
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,640
But it's yeah, like I say, it's 
working for me certainly at club

760
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,720
level. 
And again, I'm seeing at the 

761
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,720
national level and I can't, I 
can't be put off it. 

762
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,960
Like it seems like a really, if 
you obviously, if you find the 

763
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,240
person that's, you know, good 
enough for the role, which it 

764
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,280
appears to be like, I think it's
a really good thing to have. 

765
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,040
And it's like I say the word 
I've put on is it's like giving 

766
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,880
you an edge in a game. 
And let's say it helps us in 

767
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,400
both boxes, not just not just 
going forward, but again, the 

768
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,360
threat that least has given us. 
We always seem to have good 

769
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,680
positional awareness, I would 
say. 

770
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440
So for all the ball Greece had, 
they were, they were limited to 

771
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,120
their chances. 
They only had three shots on 

772
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,600
target. 
They only managed to get four 

773
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,040
corners, which I think both of 
those starts were the same as 

774
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,840
us. 
And then let you say we only had

775
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,920
22% possession second-half. 
Yeah, I think we were. 

776
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,840
We're a lot more tactful than 
Greece, a lot more composed at 

777
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,600
times as well. 
Like when the game was going our

778
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,720
way, we used the quality that we
had. 

779
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,320
I mean, when I was looking for 
the players as well, like I felt

780
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,000
like we've got a lot of Premier 
League players over the Cdr 

781
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,720
players with Premier League 
experience. 

782
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,680
It looks like Greece team, it's 
not quite the same and they do 

783
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,160
have a couple that have been in 
the Premier League or at that 

784
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,760
sort of level and the rest maybe
aren't there yet. 

785
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,640
And it showed. 
And the set piece factor to that

786
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,440
really helped as well I felt. 
So, I mean, I don't know if 

787
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,480
you've got any more comments, 
Gordon, about the game last 

788
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,440
night before move on to the 
Belarus game. 

789
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,640
And I think, I think I think 
that was about one of my like 

790
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,960
70th odd Scotland games that 
I've been to in my life and I've

791
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
probably not been to a more 
bizarre football game. 

792
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:57,880
I just absolutely I still can't 
quite wrap my head around how 

793
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:03,560
and why it happened, but the 
fact is it did, it did and the 

794
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,320
place it puts. 
And again, you know, we you you 

795
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,040
referenced the we referenced 
earlier that say from Angus gun 

796
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,800
and that that could really be 
the real sliding doors moment of

797
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,560
this entire group because that's
it more or less the exact 

798
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,200
halfway point. 
If that goes in, it's two each. 

799
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Do we then just all say, right 
for fine, we'll all take a draw.

800
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,760
We're two points behind Denmark.
We've got Greece snapping at our

801
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,040
heels. 
And then we've got a trip to 

802
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,560
Athens, which would be 
miserable. 

803
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,440
And just the whole complexion of
the group completely changes 

804
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,360
with that moment. 
And then Dyke's going up to make

805
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,760
it safe. 
So, yeah, let's look ahead 

806
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,680
Sunday and and the the the 
opportunity that that brings 

807
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,280
because it's it's massive. 
That's just at the halfway point

808
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,560
now. 
Three games, I know six were 

809
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,400
joint top with Denmark going to 
Sunday, both on 7 points, Greece

810
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,240
on three, Belarus on none. 
Denmark obviously winning six 

811
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,680
nil against Belarus while we 
were playing at Hamden on 

812
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Thursday, On Sunday, slightly 
different. 

813
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,160
We kick off a little bit earlier
than the game in Copenhagen. 

814
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,000
It will be Denmark against 
Greece over there. 

815
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,360
We've got Belarus at Hamden. 
What we're thinking for the game

816
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160
at Hamden, obviously it's a must
win. 

817
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560
It's a game we expect to and but
we can definitely make it easier

818
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,240
for ourselves by how we go about
it. 

819
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,000
So for me a nice yearly goal to 
ease attention because I don't 

820
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,640
want to enjoy another half a 
football with the the crowds 

821
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,680
getting quite as restless as 
they were on Thursday night. 

822
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,440
Yeah, for sure. 
I think I think it'll, it's 

823
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,400
obviously going to be a very, 
very different challenge. 

824
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,480
Obviously when you go to a game 
like that where the expectation 

825
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,400
is you're going to win it, the 
expectation is you're going to 

826
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,720
score a few goals. 
The expectation is they're going

827
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,560
to sit in and put 11 men behind 
the ball and we have to deal 

828
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,360
with a low block and how to get 
past them. 

829
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080
That it's going to be, it's 
going to be a whole different 

830
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,160
challenge to what it was last 
night. 

831
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,760
But again, that that's OK. 
And again, we have a fairly deep

832
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,240
squad now. 
We've got players that can come 

833
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,280
in and I think Marine saying 
Ferguson and Chris are both 

834
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,640
suspended. 
So there will be naturally 

835
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,200
changes to come. 
And again, like, like you said, 

836
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,040
the only thing that matters here
is that we win. 

837
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,560
I think. 
So looking ahead, obviously we 

838
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,960
know that the first tiebreaker 
if if teams are level is goal 

839
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,320
difference. 
The fact that Denmark have now 

840
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,840
got a five goal advantage on us 
in goal difference, I think that

841
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,160
ship has sailed personally. 
So I don't think we really need 

842
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,840
to worry about, I don't think we
will run up a cricket score. 

843
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
We're not the kind of team 
really that's going to run up 

844
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,240
678 goals against the team. 
So let's just win. 

845
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,280
Let's just win. 
And then like you say, we get to

846
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,360
put our feet up. 
We see what happens in 

847
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Copenhagen but a wind again just
puts us in an absolutely 

848
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,720
unbelievable position to then to
then qualify next month. 

849
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:46,560
Providing me when as long as 
Denmark as Denmark beat Greece, 

850
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,680
that'll take both of us and 
Denmark on to 10 points. 

851
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,520
I know we're talking about like 
the different permutations of 

852
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,840
what could happen, but that 
would create a 7 point gap 

853
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,040
between US and Greece with only 
two games left. 

854
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,400
So if you do the maths there 
that guarantees us a playoff and

855
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,440
then we means we'll definitely 
in March still have potential by

856
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,200
World Cup. 
We might already qualify by that

857
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,600
point depending on how the 
November window goes. 

858
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,440
But you know, come Saturday, we 
could be guaranteed to have a 

859
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,640
fighting chance at going to the 
States, Canada, Mexico next 

860
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,600
March. 
What I'm curious to obviously we

861
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,320
can't control what goes on in 
Copenhagen. 

862
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,160
How would you 2 rather see that 
game goes providing me when 

863
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,240
would you rather it was a draw 
for both sides? 

864
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:43,760
Obviously getting a point means 
more chance of us finishing top,

865
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,840
but still, no matter how narrow,
leaves the door open for Greece 

866
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,440
to still come to Athens or 
prayers even for the game next 

867
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,400
month. 
No one beating us Put the same 

868
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,640
on, you know, sort of back in 
the hunt. 

869
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,800
Or would you just rather Denmark
clean the floor with them and 

870
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,120
we're home and drive for 2nd 
place at least? 

871
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,000
I think for me, the, the 
situation that I've been mulling

872
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,280
over in my mind today, and I 
think the one that feels most 

873
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,040
attractive, like obviously we've
been through playoffs before. 

874
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,800
We've, we, we went through 
playoffs to Euro 2020. 

875
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,600
We obviously went through 
playoffs, the World Cup last 

876
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,040
time and also got beaten by 
Ukraine. 

877
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,160
I think playoffs are dangerous 
because you don't it's just pure

878
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,520
luck of the draw who you're 
going to get. 

879
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,800
Again, in both of the playoff 
situations that we've had, we we

880
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000
haven't actually where we still 
haven't done the situation where

881
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,200
you play the two games in a 
week. 

882
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,000
I think that's a really, really 
difficult thing to do to be able

883
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,840
to play like a one off semi 
final and a one off final. 

884
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,200
I think that's not something 
that appeals to me. 

885
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,560
I think the most attractive path
here, and I think this, the more

886
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,240
I think about it, the more 
realistic I feel this is, is 

887
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:58,080
that if Denmark were to draw on 
Sunday against Greece while we 

888
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,800
beat Belarus, we then go to 
Athens or to to to Greece. 

889
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,320
If we can take a draw there, 
that would effectively guarantee

890
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,840
that the final game at home to 
Denmark is a winner take all. 

891
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,680
Whoever wins that game qualifies
for the for the World Cup on 

892
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,520
that night. 
And the more I think about that,

893
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,760
the more I think that that might
be the thing I want most in my 

894
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,720
entire life. 
Because the last time when we 

895
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:23,160
qualified for year 2024, well, 
when we qualified for year 2020,

896
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,520
we were all locked in our houses
and it was incredible. 

897
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,000
But let's be honest, it wasn't 
what we wanted when we qualified

898
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,400
for year 2024. 
It was because Norway didn't 

899
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,520
beat Spain and couch your. 
Home again. 

900
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,840
In a couch or in a pub, in a 
quiet random pub and watching 

901
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,840
that. 
And at the end of the game I was

902
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,200
like, Oh yeah, Hooray, we did 
it. 

903
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,000
But there was no moment of 
togetherness. 

904
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Now just imagine. 
Imagine exactly imagining your 

905
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:53,680
mind's die home game at Hampden.
And again, like like I said, I 

906
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,880
think that whatever way it comes
out into that final game, again,

907
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,080
if we if we go into that game 
level on points with Denmark, 

908
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,040
they will have the advantage 
over us because the head to 

909
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,240
head. 
So we're going to have to win 

910
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,640
that game. 
We're just going to have to win 

911
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,560
that game in the final one 
against Denmark. 

912
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,840
I think we've got more of a 
chance of doing that than we do 

913
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,000
of going through a playoff 
against two potentially quite 

914
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,960
tough teams. 
So and that like you say that 

915
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,840
there that fight. 
I'm just imagining my mind's 

916
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,520
eye, that final whistle, fool 
Hamden to say you've done it, 

917
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,560
you've qualified for the World 
Cup. 

918
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,760
I just I can't shake that image 
out of my head, so that's what I

919
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,640
want. 
What be Adam? 

920
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,160
Are you sitting on it? 
Yeah, I think, you know, I 

921
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,960
figured whenever you get an 
opportunity like especially 

922
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,960
Scotland, they think all the 
years where we've we've been 

923
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,920
nowhere near and obviously we 
have been keeping ever closer 

924
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,480
and now we're getting to finals 
again. 

925
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,360
We've put ourselves in a really 
good position to be honest. 

926
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,440
And I think when you put 
yourself in a position like this

927
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,280
and you look at how we went 
about that one last night and to

928
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,640
be honest, how we go about our 
business. 

929
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960
A lot of times I think even if 
you look all the way back to the

930
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080
Nation's League, right, if you 
look at us when we're in league 

931
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,640
with that awful start to league,
nobody finds this at all. 

932
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,680
And then with a really good 
finish to it and obviously 

933
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,920
didn't go away, we got relegated
and that's what happened. 

934
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,360
But again, it showed that we 
could actually go to tool with 

935
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,760
top teams all the time. 
So yeah, we are maybe missing to

936
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,120
see world class players that put
us like way up there. 

937
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,080
But I think the point I'm trying
to make is there's not too much 

938
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,400
really between US, Denmark and 
Greece. 

939
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,800
We all have our like, for 
example, I said earlier on about

940
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,280
the differences between US and 
Greece being that experience, 

941
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,520
right? 
And obviously Denmark, you know,

942
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,920
they probably match us on that, 
maybe even better some would 

943
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,440
say. 
But if you look at the game at 

944
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,240
Denmark, they looked like they 
had no clue what to do when they

945
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,160
were going forward with the 
ball. 

946
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,600
They had no ideas and they would
have the options and Scotland 

947
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,720
held them well. 
And we've got the nil nil. 

948
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,080
And I think we should be. 
I'm similar to what Gordon SIM. 

949
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,600
So I'm in the main set of get 
the one against Belarus and then

950
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,200
hoping that it's a draw between 
Denmark and Greece. 

951
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,240
And then that gives us a 2 point
cushion for whatever happens 

952
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,120
next, but also puts us in a pole
position for automatic 

953
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,800
qualification. 
I don't think we should be. 

954
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,800
I think we are quite bad as a 
nation for being like, oh, you 

955
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,640
know, we can get to the 
playoffs, only get to playoff. 

956
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,480
Yeah, but how what's our success
rate in playoffs like? 

957
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,360
It's not good. 
So if we have an opportunity. 

958
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,040
On about this and you know, 
there's a list of teams that 

959
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,680
could be in the playoffs. 
One of them is Italy. 

960
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,080
And I was like, imagine, imagine
we get to our first, you know, 

961
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,000
World Cup playoffs since, well, 
apart from the, the, you know, 

962
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,360
the World Cup 2020. 2. 
It's been a while and you know, 

963
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,040
there's a team following a bit 
like Gateway in there. 

964
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,120
I just thought it'd be our luck 
to go and Draw Something like 

965
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,400
that. 
And then I mean, they're 

966
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,480
beatable, but I'd far rather 
there's an easier way to go 

967
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,360
about it and it's topping your 
grip. 

968
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Yeah, and I think to be honest, 
I think they will go for it. 

969
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,320
Like it's not it's not I'm not 
saying this in the sense of the 

970
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,520
players. 
I just think it's maybe it's 

971
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,920
maybe not us on the call, but 
just genetically as a nation we 

972
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,720
are came to quite bad for like 
saying like, Oh well, you know, 

973
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,480
if we get result in spellers in 
Denmark, one more guaranteed 

974
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,600
playoff. 
Yeah, but that's no, it's not 

975
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,760
guaranteed to go through the 
wizard. 

976
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,760
So you really want to put 
yourself in the best place. 

977
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,880
I am. 
I am slightly different for 

978
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,320
Gordon. 
It's maybe just more optimistic 

979
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,720
than anything else, but still, 
it's still realistic in a sense.

980
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:22,520
But I think like the idea should
be to go and hunt down that goal

981
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,120
difference because obviously if 
we get the result we want for 

982
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,640
Denmark and these, which is a 
draw and that would leave them 

983
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,120
off in the airport +9, is it 
Gordon or something like that, 

984
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,280
+9? 
We have +4. 

985
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,600
So I mean, realistically, you're
obviously you need to get five 

986
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,400
goals to match them right now. 
Again, obviously anything can 

987
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,680
happen in the remaining two 
games, but if you can get there 

988
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,200
or there abouts that like four 
or five, no, shouldn't be an 

989
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880
unreasonable ask. 
It feels unreasonable, like 

990
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,760
Gordon said, because we're know 
that kind of nation with again, 

991
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,000
we don't have like an abundance 
attack and players to 'cause 

992
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,960
that kind of threat. 
But it could happen at home when

993
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,640
when people for the first ever 
last night were the more than 

994
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,760
the performance itself and the 
players after the match were, 

995
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,360
you know, quite vocal about like
less than we know the 

996
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,960
performance was nowhere needed, 
but we're really happy we got 

997
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,480
the 1. 
So I think they're back in the 

998
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,520
dressing room. 
And again, for that experience 

999
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,360
thinking we need go out there on
Sunday and put a performance out

1000
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,680
and we need the goals anyway. 
We need to be ruthless and we 

1001
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,440
need to get this one so that we 
are, you know, like you say, 

1002
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,840
maybe going at that last game at
Hamden against Denmark level on 

1003
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,320
points and thinking right, you 
know, again, it's very 

1004
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,120
optimistic. 
But if you're matching them for 

1005
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080
goal difference, see, like, and 
it could be anything, you could 

1006
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,680
end up going through on goals 4 
or whatever. 

1007
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,240
If you've got matching goal 
differences, another null or one

1008
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,440
one or whatever. 
So yeah, I just think we should 

1009
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,200
be given our all. 
And who's to say we can't do it 

1010
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,040
in Greece? 
You know, I know we lost to them

1011
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,400
at Hampton, but we beat them in 
Greece in the first first leg. 

1012
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,520
So as with an US to beat Greece.
And I think, I think, I think 

1013
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,440
there's a level of frustration 
with Greece as well. 

1014
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,720
I think they we are not their 
most enjoyable fixture and 

1015
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,480
they'll know that they lost us 
there before. 

1016
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,640
They'll not be happy what 
happened last night, but we are 

1017
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,400
in their heads a little bit I 
feel as well, so that that might

1018
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,600
play in our favour of Amigo 
Athens depend on what happens 

1019
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,840
again on Sunday. 
And especially especially the 

1020
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,600
other thing I was thinking, 
Adam, was that obviously if if 

1021
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,920
Greece were to lose on Sunday, 
then as we said, while while we 

1022
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,520
beat Belarus, then obviously 
they're done. 

1023
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,440
They they can't get the 
playoffs, they can't win the 

1024
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,920
group they're. 
Where's their heads then? 

1025
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,440
And then our our game over there
is their first game in front of 

1026
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
their own fans since they've 
effectively thrown away the 

1027
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,880
group. 
So like, that's hardly going to 

1028
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,800
be the most welcoming atmosphere
for a home team, you know what I

1029
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,520
mean? 
So like again, it can sometimes 

1030
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,280
be difficult. 
You never quite know when a team

1031
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,640
has nothing to play for. 
Sometimes either they just don't

1032
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,480
bother or sometimes that gives 
them freedom to actually just 

1033
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,720
let the hand break off and they 
actually completely even better.

1034
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:50,000
So you never quite know that. 
As we've said, you never quite 

1035
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,600
know, you can't control how how 
the other teams go about it and 

1036
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,360
go about their business. 
Obviously for us in Denmark, 

1037
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,200
we've both got a game against 
Belarus left. 

1038
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,080
So ultimately it's what do we do
in that other game against 

1039
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Greece and then we play each 
other on the final day. 

1040
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,480
And, and yeah, like I said, I, I
just, I just can't help but 

1041
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,440
think that that is going to be a
winner take all scenario. 

1042
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,480
I just, I'm so excited. 
Yeah, The other point I was 

1043
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,240
going to make, as well as say it
doesn't exactly go upon the 

1044
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,840
other reason I was hoping for. 
If like I say, we get 3 or 4, 

1045
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,120
let's say against Belarus, 
right? 

1046
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,120
Obviously, don't get me wrong, 
we just need to one. 

1047
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,880
But if we get 3 or 4, that the 
safety net of that, of course is

1048
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,040
if if they do, Greece and 
Denmark do get a draw and Greece

1049
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,760
are 6 points behind us. 
And then obviously the 

1050
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,000
permutations of that as Greece 
will be looking to be us if 

1051
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,640
they'd be us. 
Then again, we're stuck against 

1052
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,840
Denmark. 
They're playing Belarus 

1053
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,080
permutations of that as gold, 
most of any good score or 

1054
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,720
whatever. 
Not to be the the killjoy here, 

1055
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:49,360
but again, that's another key 
factor to trying to put on a 

1056
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,760
good performance from the fans 
perspective, but also can get 

1057
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,400
that few goals. 
It does give you like again and 

1058
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,640
maybe the equivalent of an extra
point in the sense of getting 

1059
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,880
those goals to just bump up that
goal difference to what is 

1060
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,360
already a positive campaign. 
Yeah, because I mean, I would 

1061
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,240
it's been a while since 
Scotland's kind of put someone 

1062
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,360
away in that fashion. 
Like scored the handful of goals

1063
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,440
made at a four nil or something.
Even had more Dover a couple 

1064
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,520
years where they were the bottom
seat. 

1065
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,080
I think it was only two nil at 
home. 

1066
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Kazakhstan might have been the 
bottom seat set of somebody over

1067
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,840
that actually campaign with with
a quite a few passing. 

1068
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,840
Obviously Sam, you know, I would
just like to see a score a 

1069
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,560
handful. 
There's there's guys like McGann

1070
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,120
and McDonald. 
I don't know if they've had 

1071
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,200
twenty goals yet again. 
They might be close, I think. 

1072
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,840
McGann has, I think he has had 
20. 

1073
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,200
Mccomnies and definitely not 
then, but these guys are chasing

1074
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,520
them back. 
I mean, Mcgann's past 20, but 

1075
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,160
Mcgann's actually he's he's he's
in there or they're about to be 

1076
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,640
like one of the all time goal 
scorers. 

1077
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:45,760
All time so. 
Like, you know, I'd like to just

1078
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,040
see these guys getting a better 
and like you said that we early 

1079
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,320
go just to calm the nerves in 
the stands, calm the nerve from 

1080
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,880
the patch even, you know, give 
us that lead because bellows 

1081
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,200
didn't look like they offered 
much at all. 

1082
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,760
Once we got our lead over there.
It would definitely it would 

1083
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,120
definitely just it would finish 
off what has been a great week 

1084
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,360
for the national team. 
Like, I mean, I don't I still 

1085
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,000
don't know what I said about the
game in Copenhagen. 

1086
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,760
I know you've can the two 
snipers are obviously a draw or 

1087
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,000
a win for a draw or one for 
Denmark. 

1088
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,200
There's a third which I don't 
really want to talk about 

1089
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,120
because that's there's so many 
other options that warms up if 

1090
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,960
Greece somehow managed to get a 
result. 

1091
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:26,040
But I mean, for me, the bottom 
line is we can't control what 

1092
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,640
happens over there, but we can 
next month. 

1093
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,560
And that's where that you know, 
there's a lot of football to 

1094
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,920
still be played by only halfway 
the game and not the game over 

1095
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,160
at Olympiakis is going that 
that's winnable and it'll be a 

1096
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,720
hard game again, I don't I don't
buy into too much about if these

1097
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,400
are thrown away. 
Well, that way the heads be at 

1098
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,440
not not that they won't be 
somewhat a bit looser and you 

1099
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,320
know about not not scrambled, 
but I bet disheartened by what's

1100
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,760
happened. 
But they'll definitely they'll 

1101
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,840
definitely want to put us to the
sword because they'll feel hard 

1102
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,000
done by. 
But what happened last night? 

1103
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,600
But I just feel like it's 
winnable and I don't, I don't 

1104
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,600
care if it's a Denmark when or a
draw on Sunday, We've still got 

1105
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,320
a draw in the bag from 
Copenhagen. 

1106
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,440
So surely even if Denmark, when 
we went in, if we went over 

1107
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,640
there next month, we come home 
to Denmark and no one, if we 

1108
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,400
went, we top the group now no 
matter what. 

1109
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,280
Yeah. 
So I think, I think I think as 

1110
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,680
well, just like it's always a 
good thing, something to take 

1111
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,520
that big sort of step back and 
get a wee bit of perspective. 

1112
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:37,440
Because I think people over the 
years have been very, very, very

1113
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,280
harsh on Steve Clark and his 
side. 

1114
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,120
And I think partly that is down 
to just purely raised 

1115
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,520
expectations because which is a 
good thing because performances 

1116
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,280
and results have been good and 
we have good players and 

1117
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,880
therefore expectation rises. 
People expect more of the team, 

1118
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,840
which is a really good thing. 
But I think it's so easy for 

1119
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,040
people to forget that in the 20 
odd years between France 98 and 

1120
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,280
EUR 2020, like we were in the 
deepest of darkest of 

1121
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,640
wildernesses. 
I mean, we went qualifying 

1122
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,200
campaign after campaign, getting
basically nowhere near like we 

1123
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,040
would get the amount, you 
remember, the amount of 

1124
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,920
campaigns that we would have 
where in the last three or four 

1125
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,760
games you'd be thinking, well, 
we need to win every single 

1126
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,200
game. 
We're in the last chance saloon 

1127
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,000
and we need that team to drop 
points there and that team to 

1128
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,520
drop points there. 
And then on the last day we 

1129
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,800
might have a chance to get a 
playoff. 

1130
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,000
You know, whereas you look now, 
you look at the campaigns we 

1131
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,880
have now. 
I mean, the last World Cup 

1132
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,680
campaign, we lost one game away 
from home against the top seed. 

1133
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,840
You know, the last EUR campaign 
we started with five wins. 

1134
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,240
No Scotland team have ever done 
that. 

1135
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,360
This campaign we've started, 
we've barely dropped a point. 

1136
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,040
Like our destiny is in our hands
and we're in such a, we're 

1137
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,400
getting ourselves in such strong
positions in groups like this 

1138
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,000
isn't normal. 
This has not been normal like 

1139
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,680
for Scotland this century. 
So yeah, we we just have to 

1140
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,880
enjoy it. 
We have to very much again. 

1141
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,560
Look, there's a lot of fortune 
last night and there's, you 

1142
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,240
can't shy away from that. 
There's a lot of good fortune to

1143
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,320
win that game. 
But there was also a lot of 

1144
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,880
character. 
I mean, you look at the way that

1145
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,320
you look back to that Nations 
League game in March against 

1146
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Greece, like when Greece scored 
the first goal, the team kind of

1147
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,280
wobbled a little bit and maybe 
kind of collapsed a little bit. 

1148
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,360
But last night Greece scored the
first goal and they bounced 

1149
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,560
straight back and they didn't 
stop and they didn't stop and 

1150
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,360
they didn't stop. 
And I think ultimately that is 

1151
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,240
the greatest credit from last 
night, that the quality might 

1152
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,320
not have always been there for 
the full game, but the 

1153
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,000
commitment and the passion and 
the belief in each other 100% 

1154
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,320
was and that that could well be 
what takes us to the World Cup 

1155
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,400
next year. 
You could be 100 and Cent, even 

1156
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,120
though the football did lack a 
little bit at times. 

1157
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,080
Not a little bit I've been kind 
to, but they worked hard. 

1158
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,520
They worked so hard for us. 
And Clark said that again at 

1159
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,120
full time you went, that's what 
this group of players are all 

1160
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,920
about. 
I've talked before about the 

1161
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,200
character of this group. 
They never know when they're 

1162
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,360
beat. 
And that was, I mean, we know 

1163
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,200
going into the setting to have 
this campaign, they'll certainly

1164
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,240
look like they're up for the 
fight. 

1165
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,640
So I think, I think we'll wrap 
up there. 

1166
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,600
I hope you'll enjoy the episode.
I'm certainly looking forward to

1167
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,440
Sunday. 
I'm travelling through to 

1168
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,080
Hamden. 
It's going to be a good day out 

1169
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,880
in Glasgow. 
It's nice to get a weekend 

1170
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,040
fixture at home. 
Gordon, you headlong to this one

1171
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,800
as well, I'm sure. 
Absolutely, absolutely. 

1172
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,280
As I'm saying, some folk the 
last couple of days I have this 

1173
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,920
really annoying thing that we've
actually not missed a 

1174
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,760
competitive home game that we've
been allowed to load to go to, 

1175
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,320
obviously discounting COVID 
since 2009. 

1176
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,560
So that is just. 
Unfortunately, that's a run I 

1177
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,640
can never bring. 
Yeah, you're stuck. 

1178
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,640
Forever. 
I'm stuck. 

1179
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,440
We'll be Adam. 
Worst places to be stuck? 

1180
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,840
I'll not be there guys, I'll not
be there, but I'm sure you'll 

1181
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,960
cheat on enough for. 
Me. 

1182
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:54,280
Yeah, no, definitely. 
Well, I'm just it's been just 24

1183
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,560
hours tacked over since the game
finished last night and fine 

1184
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,960
find my voices seems to have 
covered with aid of many cups of

1185
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,920
tea and water for the day. 
Just in time till to the court. 

1186
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,080
What has been a good hour long 
episode almost. 

1187
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,480
So I'd just like to thank you 
both again. 

1188
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,960
Adam from Gorgie talk coming on 
Gordon from the tartan scarf. 

1189
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,640
You can find him on Twitter and 
Instagram as well. 

1190
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Make sure you go give him a 
follow. 

1191
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Very good content just like 
ourselves here at Everything 

1192
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,960
Scotland. 
So one last thing again, I 

1193
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,040
mentioned it last episode, but 
I'll mention it again. 

1194
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,040
If you enjoyed the episode, drop
us a rating wherever you listen 

1195
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,840
to your podcasts or even if you 
think it's worth sharing with 

1196
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,080
your friends and you think you 
know people would enjoy it, 

1197
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,320
certainly go ahead and do that. 
All the best. 

1198
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,840
Enjoy the weekend boys.
