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Welcome to the boys. 
Listen to the Passion and Hunger

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Park. 
It's John. 

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Again, it's Johnny's. 
It's great. 

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Done by the fish Chance, The one
for Scotland. 

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Scott And we're back for another
episode talking about league 

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action, domestic football once 
again starting in Scotland after

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our international break and our 
couple of chats we had on 

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Scotland and it's been an 
exciting week. 

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Lots of big results, some 
disappointing for some members 

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who are joining us to talk today
and others have led to elation. 

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One of the guys joining us is 
Adam Mccorky. 

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Talk, Adam. 
I think we all know you're 

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wanting to like be awaited of. 
The party trying to stay, trying

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to stay humble as best I can for
this podcast. 

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Yeah, a good call because also 
on the mic is George was a 

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Celtic fan. 
Joe, how you feeling? 

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I've been better, James, but I'm
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long way to go, so I'm just 
trying to look on the bright 

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side. 
The life is this. 

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Certainly early days. 
Early days like so, yeah, Quick 

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scan through of the results 
before we get talking. 

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Aberdeen 11 nil away to Saint 
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That was their second one in the
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Back to that one's for them. 
Dundee night. 

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I draw eyebrows against Rangers.
Motherwell lost 21 owned folk. 

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Our decision there we'll 
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I was at Easter Rd. for a four 
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first win since the league, 
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so good for them. 
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biggest talking points parts 
running out three nil winners at

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Rock the Park in the Del 
Classico which has been dubbed 

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and Dundee. 2 nil win for a team
that was right, that fit the 

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table nearly against Celtic. 
So we'll start we'll start on a 

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on a on a more happy tour. 
We'll go to the maroon corner of

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Edinburgh for this one. 
See now in Kilmarnock. 

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Adam talked to us about it. 
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How did you see it? 
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managed to get a ticket for it, 
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of us there, that's for sure. 
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4000 there, which was obviously 
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I think obviously you naturally 
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going, you start to see more 
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touch of terrible away athenses 
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But I think people were quick to
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attendance there in May and 
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things are very different from 
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bottom 6 match, which was 
effectively nothing for us other

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than them being upset by the 
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out. 
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think they came to hit the nail 
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A lot of the pundits and 
everything in the media, Kelly 

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came out the traps really good 
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bit with them. 
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at our own game a little bit in 
the sense of like high press and

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putting us under a lot of 
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that. 
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go up the pitch and get a 
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And as by no surprise, which 
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season for us so far anyways, 
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and Halket three goals in in 
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I think between having Finley 
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goals between them. 
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than more than strike parents 
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parents. 
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anyway. 
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good to get that goal from from 
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Kettle will touch and I think 
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masters of their own downfall a 
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loose passes. 
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going on in the middle of the 
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to have a lot of ideas to answer
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front. 
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starts to open up a little bit. 
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this in Braga, the space they're
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between the two goals that 
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succession. 
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would say after, but I think it 
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mark, last 30 minutes, just 
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themselves in terms of be a bit 
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enjoying the moment. 

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again, everything that's going 
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well. 
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Crest of the wave and rightly 
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So just as long as we can, for 
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Yeah, I mean, I mean, he said 
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was just about like sort of 
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They really gave him something 
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when the press came on. 
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started to engage with our 
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good goals. 
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end, but until the third goal 
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So yeah, he's acknowledging 
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So I'd given a good fight, but 
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a really good performance. 
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Baraga, obviously, I saw one of 
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around the keeper was very neat,
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I mean, what a coupe. 
He continues to look for Hearts 

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coming from the Norwegian second
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that, just over half 1,000,000 
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So I mean brilliant signing like
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the wave. 
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already? 
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title challenge on or is it 
still too early and you don't 

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want to fall into the same trap 
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season? 
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if I, if I'm heart to heart, 
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like, yeah, I'm dreaming. 
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fan, I'd be dreaming about it, 
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dreaming last season. 
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times Aberdeen were up there 
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there and whatever. 
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like not to dream like and have 
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want into win it. 
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it's maybe not of us the same 
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I would say in terms like the 
Leicester situation just for 

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like golfing and whatever. 
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very different, but like it's 
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kind of feel, albeit Hearts 
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higher than I suppose 
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time. 
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in my head, I would say what 
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it's eight games and Aberdeen 
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roughly this stage as well. 
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I think this, I think even 
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on about being the same type of 
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the circumstances are very 
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Like the points you get are the 
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because it's eight games. 
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that we may have roughly the 
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But I mean, it was a better 
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The stuff that's going on with 
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different from the last season 
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There's a lot of bunching up 
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the league, which means there's 
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So it's given Hart's more than 
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other teams, which Aberdeen 
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circumstances as well when they 
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So and I just think overall the 
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clicked in a lot of places on 
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So I'm hopeful that it lasts. 
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like a league title, I don't 
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situation that to aim for 
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that chat obviously for Mckennis
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I think he has been already 
stating about, you know, we need

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to see like 2 full rounds of 
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So obviously best been eight 
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that till around about 22 games.
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then they'll maybe start talking
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But obviously in house, like 
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targets and everyone will be 
aiming for it. 

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You know, to everybody should be
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be. 
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challenging themselves, then 
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place this season, regardless of
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Yeah, no, I agree with that. 
They are looking good. 

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Does that 'cause you to be a 
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Obviously Celtic now five points
a draft like early days, but do 

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you like ours and say no, 
they're playing well, that's 

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good football, you know, that's 
going to give us something to 

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think about. 
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I mean obviously hearts add to 
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concern comes from within the 
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regardless. 
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adds a lot of concern to that 
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we're five points clear. 
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is alarming enough. 
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They've just capitalised on that
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getting them a high horse here 
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genuinely do welcome, welcome 
the competition and because I 

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think it's good for Scottish 
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Celtic because most years of her
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away with the sub pubs that 
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quality of the other teams, 
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The competition's not really 
been there without exceptions in

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recent years, so I'm not getting
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I've seen Celtic have tourist 
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This may be the worst, but I do 
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that Celtic steady the ship 
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I don't think we're going to 
reach the heights that we did 

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last year and I also think it is
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maintain this level throughout 
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Come back to me next week though
and it could be completely 

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different because the result on 
Sunday could change my complete 

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which wouldn't surprise me, and 
when to not at Tynecastle, there

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it clear I might have a 
different outlook on things. 

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Or if Celtic score and a really 
tight game, a late goal snatch 

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at one nil and bring it back to 
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I'd hope that Celtic reduce that
as a platform to build off of. 

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's
a, it is a massive 1 next Sunday

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12:00 at Tynecastle and kicks 
off. 

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I mean we'll, we'll discuss the 
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First two nil to Dundee 
obviously rotates at the game 

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and stuff. 
There was in the golf balls and 

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all the bouncy balls getting 
thrown on by the Celtic fan. 

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I thought the bouncy balls were 
quite funny to be honest. 

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I took ages to clean them off, 
so 3 minutes, 3 minutes and then

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what? 
Someone said that's the stoppage

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time, that part of that. 
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was, there was 4 added to be 
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Like Dundee were going to score 
regardless. 

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It does. 
I mean, it just meant that they 

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scored an added time instead of 
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normal time. 
And I'm glad they did that at 

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the start of game instead of at 
the 20th minute when the team 

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were in their flow. 
And you can see, you can see by 

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where Celtic are and in the 
league that things aren't right.

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I know and I understand it's an 
extent that other Scottish 

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football fans around us look at 
us saying, oh, what have you got

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to complain about? 
But for so long Celtic have been

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held back out with out with 
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When you look around us at the 
potential that the club has. 

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So I actually think that the 
people on the board are lucky 

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that they've got this far, and 
they're lucky that Rodgers is 

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actually still there as well. 
No, I mean across the game. 

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I mean well in terms of what the
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previously obviously very proud 
that we worked in exceptionally 

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hard over the last couple of 
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brilliant today. 
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resultant performances. 
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disappointing. 
Give credit to Dundee, the 

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defended well when they got in 
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All the statistics in the game 
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we didn't do enough with it. 
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us. 
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Yes, I mean, I probably could 
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to be honest. 
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interviews were the big media 
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but no, it's. 
It's the whole thing I don't 

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need. 
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and it does smell a lot of how 
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and Rogers third season, his 
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Leicester. 
The football's predictable. 

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The only difference was that the
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were were were showing, 

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especially in the first half of 
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But it's it's up to Rogers and 
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it. 
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that player for player Celtic is
the best squad in the league. 

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It's just finding the best ways 
around it. 

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Dundee and Celtic and it was 
astronomical. 

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And so everyone will say, oh, 
Dundee played dire football. 

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They they beat a team that was 
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year and and nearly took Bayern 
Munich extra time and all that 

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stuff. 
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do that in the state that 
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Celtic were. 
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that they should be very proud 
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nobody was surprised, I think 
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not saying I wasn't surprised 
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sub stack for Scott's with a mic
that everyone would be shocked. 

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But the performance from Celtic 
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Dundee's going to maybe that 
just because of how Dundee had 

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been this season. 
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nothing that we've not seen 
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well as an interesting journey 
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appointment in the summer, there
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know, the criticism I guess 
leveled that the appointment and

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people not been too enamoured 
with Presley coming in. 

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League Cup campaign didn't go 
amazingly dropping points 

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against lower league teams. 
You'll be chuffed with that. 

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It feels like that he's got them
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he's wanting. 
I'll come back to Adam begging 

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on Sunday and Joe's getting his 
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Are you looking forward to it? 
Definitely, definitely. 

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I think you cannot look forward 
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It's the first time, probably 
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well first time and God knows 
how long we got a game in Celtic

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above them. 
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situation with Celtic versus us,
it's like polar opposite. 

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So there's a lot in our favour. 
I did not foresee Celtic getting

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beat yesterday. 
I did watch it, most of it to be

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honest, and I've not spent an 
enormous amount of time watching

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Celtic this season. 
But I've obviously heard murmurs

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about like, you know, not 
replacing people. 

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And to be honest, I came to 
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Like I'm not like whilst there 
is a financial goal from Walsh, 

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I probably would say at the 
moment in most positions Celtic,

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man for man with every other 
team is better. 

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Overall. 
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weaknesses and I do think a lot 
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it's just poor, poor recruitment
or you know, over time it's 

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either been not spending enough 
money or where they are spending

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it, it could be spent better 
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And I think like from watching 
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forward areas and full back 
areas, they did look 

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significantly weaker. 
They did look very predictable. 

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They just looked so passive that
ideas looked like they were 

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one-dimensional. 
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that like they just seem to 
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moment anyway, because I 
obviously got injured and stuff,

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but relying on like the same 
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So like relying on McGregor, 
relying on a returning Kieran 

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Tierney and James Forrest, 
again, hoping he does something 

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because nobody else is. 
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point as well that I was 
thinking about the other day was

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the fact that I've got AFCON 
coming up as well. 

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And I find there is like 3, at 
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players, maybe 3 attacking 
players for Celtic that are 

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going or potentially going or 
likely going to AFCON, which 

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again, further weakens them in 
an idea where they're already 

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weaker than they were last 
season. 

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So yeah, I do echo like Joe's 
points. 

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Really, they shouldn't have 
really got to this position. 

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But obviously it's up to Rogers 
to find a way. 

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And ultimately, when you look at
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not like it's even if Harsh were
to win on Sunday, eight points 

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ahead of them but only nine 
games in, still 29 games to go, 

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still to play Hearts three 
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likely. 
So yes, by no means not 

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something they can overcome and 
I am fully expecting Hearts to 

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have a dip at some point because
it's not a normal position for 

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us to be in. 
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our favour would be the fact 
that we've still got a large 

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quad squad, full equality and 
literally no distractions. 

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And so again, Celtic got a game 
first Thursday night for Celtic.

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Hearts got obviously bombed on 
penalties by Saint Mirren. 

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So we've got no other focus than
the league all week, every week.

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Our focus is just one game a 
week and then stay as high as we

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can with our squad, the players.
It was built technically for 

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European football, like in my 
mind, like we should be probably

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have less players given the fact
that we've not got any Europe. 

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But I think it was just because,
you know, maybe the right offer 

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didn't come up or you think 
because obviously a lot of them 

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are still under contract. 
So again, you're stuck with 

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players, but with players that 
are still in the mean of 

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quality. 
And then you've added to that 

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by, you know, the number of 
settings we did make through 

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analytics and obviously what 
Dell and Graham Jones were 

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looking for. 
So yeah, I think it sets off for

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a tasty one on Sunday. 
Like if I was to think about 

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what the outcome would be, I'd 
say it'll be a draw in my 

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opinion. 
Like I think that Celtic do have

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frets and around the pitch that 
I think it's Taneki or Taneki, I

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can't remember his name. 
Henach obviously brings the 

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obvious threat and then they've 
still got stability in the 

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midfield, still got man for man 
good quality midfield that will 

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definitely find a foothold in 
the game. 

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Harsh will be on the back foot 
at certain points in the game. 

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And then I still think the 
centre back pain in the car of 

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records and scales, albeit they 
maybe don't have the same 

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fullbacks they've had and 
certainly missing Johnston, I 

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still think they bring a lot of 
stability along with Michael. 

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So it'll be a really good game, 
I think. 

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No, certainly I think all eyes 
will be on that on Sunday. 

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Looking elsewhere in the league 
in terms of results, like you 

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said, we have a two 2 draw 
Ibrox, Dundee United getting a 

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point on the road. 
Good win. 

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Said it was going 2 halves. 
Rangers dominated more than the 

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first, Dundee United dominated 
more than the second They went. 

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There was 4 good goals in that 
game actually. 

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Dundee United went one nil down 
rock. 

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To me that was the reaction and 
I draw, you know, as much as 

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they deserve. 
But yeah, Rangers now appointed 

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new manager Danny Roll. 
He was in the frame for the job 

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initially and then pulled out, 
am I right? 

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Insane. 
Then they're looking at Kevin 

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Muscat that talks there, got to 
the advance stage but then broke

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down. 
He pulled out. 

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What's your guys thoughts on 
that appointment? 

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It seems, again, it's just not 
ideal for the Rangers support. 

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I think a guy that didn't seem 
feeling it and then you know, 

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it's not just the case. 
I'm going and getting them on. 

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To be honest, I think it's 
actually, I think it could be 

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quite a similar appointment to 
Russell Martin and not, not 

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heaps of management experience 
actually lesson Russell Martin 

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as a first team manager. 
Personally, I should. 

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I actually think it could be 
good, but I thought that about 

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Russell Martin as well. 
Yes. 

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When they brought him in. 
As he's been assistant at Bayern

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Munich and Germany hasn't. 
He and Germany. 

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He's also vegan. 
Drawing similarities, yeah. 

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What was the Russell BC? 
Vegetarian and a vegan. 

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No, he's vegan that. 
Was something that rubbed up 

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that I mean, to me, that doesn't
bother me. 

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I know. 
No, no, that's not that doesn't 

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define someone. 
But the Rangers fans, that was 

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just the chair on top of yeah, I
got it was. 

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Woman and and fairness has 
actually not got a bad record at

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all, it's just very limited. 
He's 36. 

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Off the top of my head. 
I'm assuming there will be 

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someone in the Rangers squad 
that's actually older than that.

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If not, won't be far off it he 
must. 

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Be like 33 or something surely? 
Yeah, but he'll be on, so not 

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not far off it. 
So that's the challenge that 

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comes with management and he 
actually did a really good job. 

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But Sheffield Wednesday, the 
circumstances that surround 

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that, I think people could 
really underestimate. 

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Turn to 12 and at one point 
we're in a playoff hunt. 

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So to have done that with 
Sheffield Wednesday would have 

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been spectacular. 
I think the potential is there 

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but the problem that he's got 
and he'll have known that and 

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it's maybe part of the reason 
why he turned it down the first 

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time. 
Rangers friends expect results 

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and success straight away and I 
actually don't know how viable 

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that is right now with the state
of Scottish football, with the 

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state of the Rangers squad. 
And I think when he goes in 

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there like Russell Martin did, 
he'll realise that there's much 

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bigger issues at play than the 
quality of footballers. 

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I think there's a main set issue
throughout the whole club and 

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these players are not used to 
success. 

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I know that sounds brutal, it 
sounds like I'm rubbing it in, 

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but the most successful player 
in that team at Rangers is James

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Tavernier, who has won four 
trophies in about 10 years, and 

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Rangers fans expect and want 
much, much more than that. 

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And what might play into Daniel 
Grill's hands is that Celtic are

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doing badly right now and one of
his first games is going to be 

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the semi final against us and 
the League Cup semi final next 

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week. 
So if he wins that, which 

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genuinely wouldn't surprise me 
with how Steltz kept playing, 

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right now, the whole thing 
changes. 

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But if it goes the other way, 
he's got an uphill battle from 

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pretty early on. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I don't know what you got. 
That's all right. 

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I do echo like a few Joe's 
points there. 

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Like I did manage to see some of
the Rangers done that game. 

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Yeah, there was good goals in 
it. 

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It's good to see regular limbs 
happening in the corner. 

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Ibrox as well. 
So show it to Dundee United fans

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for that. 
That was that was a good watch. 

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But yeah, I think it's the same 
old can't be a. 

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Rangers fan on the podcast at 
some point because we can't just

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have a new guys just taking 
cheap shots every time they drop

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points at home. 
Do you know what though? 

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It's all give and take. 
I'll happily take abuse of any 

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Rangers or Hips or Jewel, 
whoever, doesn't matter. 

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You've got if you're going to 
give it out, you have to. 

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You want it to take some as 
well. 

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So I think I was kind of the 
same old feelings for Rangers a 

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wee, but I felt like they 
obviously the quality of the 

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team is not anywhere near what 
Rangers fans expect or anybody 

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would expect to suppose for the 
size of club Rangers are. 

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00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:17,160
But I think like they did suffer
a little bit from having like 

451
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,720
just some some some sort of 
coaching contingent and there 

452
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,960
are not really anyone that was 
like a leader in the dugout. 

453
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,600
Obviously it's chucked together 
because they're still trying to 

454
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,040
sort out recruiting a manager, 
which has been again, a sort of 

455
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,760
shambolic feeling of the board 
anyway. 

456
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,000
But I. 
Do. 

457
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,360
I think like Danny Rule will 
actually be all right. 

458
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,200
I actually think you'll do fine.
I had a look at their games, 

459
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,120
right? 
The next five games is not, not 

460
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,640
what you think, what you'd want.
And it probably makes you think 

461
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,560
like why the hell would you have
faith from base in the next 5 

462
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,520
games? 
Because they've got Bran away on

463
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,200
Thursday, they've got Kelly at 
home, Hibs away, Celtic of us in

464
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,880
the cup and then Roma at home. 
And that's all in three weeks as

465
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,480
well. 
So five games in three weeks. 

466
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,960
So obviously they would, like 
you said that we want them to 

467
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,000
get good results. 
Obviously try to get the table, 

468
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,920
they'll be expecting them to 
deliver in that cup semi final 

469
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,440
regardless of form, regardless 
of where they are in the league 

470
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,880
positions. 
Do have the opinion that I think

471
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,120
Rangers I didn't. 
I wasn't sure who would win 

472
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,240
itself that Rangers the cup, but
I am actually thinking that 

473
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,200
Rangers will win it. 
So I'll probably be wrong. 

474
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,240
But it's just because I do think
there'll be a manager basis. 

475
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,360
I think there'll be a manager 
bounce of some kind. 

476
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:35,120
Sorry, Joe. 
And do you know what as well, 

477
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,600
right. 
The reason I'm a wee bit more 

478
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,880
confident about role when I 
don't want to be obviously as a 

479
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,520
heart fan, but I just think that
like he seems a bit more 

480
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,360
adaptable than Martin and I 
think his personality is 

481
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,080
different from Martin as well. 
Not that you know, I do feel 

482
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,560
like Martin kind of got chucked 
under the bus a little bit with 

483
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,320
the pressures, but I just feel 
like as a little bit more suited

484
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,360
to role and they've got a lot of
similarities in Martin 

485
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,480
background, age, all that kind 
of thing. 

486
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,440
But I think, like I said, the 
style and the personality and 

487
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,720
adaptability role, I think that 
will help Rangers and I think he

488
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,040
will get positive results in 
those five games. 

489
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
And I do think we will start to 
see them stead the ship a bit. 

490
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,440
And then obviously not sure 
where they'll be come January in

491
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,920
terms of league position, but 
I'd imagine they'll be at least 

492
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,840
in the top three. 
I would say so, yeah. 

493
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,480
And then January, obviously it's
about, well, no, Rangers love to

494
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,360
spend money so and there'll be 
more money chucked there. 

495
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,560
And then I suppose that will be 
a test of of role as well where 

496
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,440
how he works for that 
recruitment team. 

497
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,720
Can the recruitment team get it 
right? 

498
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,000
Because they have appeared to 
have failed so far in terms of 

499
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,800
like their signings. 
But yeah, I'm a bit more 

500
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,040
confident about rolling than 
what others are. 

501
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Yeah. 
I mean, we just just have to see

502
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,480
it gets on, like you said, next 
five games, couple of big 

503
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,280
fixtures in there, so a chance 
to really endear himself to the 

504
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,880
Rangers support if if he manages
to get them playing and winning 

505
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,920
more games. 
Dundee United though as well, 

506
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,120
like I make a point in Dundee 
United just quickly, James, if 

507
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,960
that's all right. 
Like I just like, what did you 

508
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,640
say? 
Their 4th. 

509
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,280
Yeah, it's not the 4th. 
I think it's, yeah, just like 

510
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,000
joint at the Kelly, they're 
joint Mifflin. 

511
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,200
I just, I just think like 
they're living off other 

512
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,320
people's feelings at the moment.
Like like I do like they've made

513
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,240
a lot of signings and they do 
have like good players, like 

514
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,760
saps for dole check players like
that that have came in done 

515
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240
well. 
But like for me, like with 

516
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Emily, I do not have faith in 
good one like at all. 

517
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,240
Like I've seen his feelings, 
Aberdeen, Sitman and all that I 

518
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520
could. 
I can see that when other teams 

519
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,960
get their act together, like so 
for example, say maybe like a 

520
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,200
Motherwell or something like 
that. 

521
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,000
Rangers, obviously you would 
expect to me that I can just see

522
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Dundee net being the team that 
just starts to go down that 

523
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
table. 
Like I was looking at their 

524
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,160
stats for the season. 
They've only won two games all 

525
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,760
season and all and then they're 
out the Europe that Europe they 

526
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,080
got beat for kill in the League 
Cup. 

527
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,440
But yeah, there's I don't I 
still think Goodwin again 

528
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,400
provides like that sort of 
consistency you'd want and 

529
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720
they've had a lot of changes. 
So I'm be keen to watch them the

530
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,920
next few weeks like because they
if somebody who's asked me who 

531
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,840
different is going to go up and 
down that table because there is

532
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,880
only five points between 3rd and
bottom, like I'd be having 

533
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Dundee now going down the table.
Yeah, I mean, you've got them in

534
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,360
three games time, They've got 
St. 

535
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,720
Martin at home and Motherwell 
away in between. 

536
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,920
So yeah, I mean, it's hard to 
tell. 

537
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920
I mean, as a Ray fan, obviously 
we played them two seasons back 

538
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,480
when we're both going for the 
title. 

539
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,720
And again, I did really feel 
more forceful trying to throw 

540
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,360
the title away. 
Dundee United went up by, you 

541
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,800
know, we felt like we're trying 
to put on a plate for each other

542
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,520
and then last season and it's 
quite well at the table. 

543
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,160
But again, Aberdeen last game of
seasons and not they leapfrogged

544
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960
them in that position so. 
I just don't think I just don't 

545
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,160
think Goodwin brings that 
dependable factor that you would

546
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320
want. 
I just that's something it may 

547
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,040
just be me like, you know, end 
of the day, I'm no coach. 

548
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,600
Goodwin knows better than me 
about how he coached. 

549
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,960
But I just think as an outsider 
and given a sort of opinion on 

550
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,200
it. 
If you're just watching football

551
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,760
and have seen as teams like I 
just feel like it's always like 

552
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,360
a matter of time. 
We're good when we're just like 

553
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840
goes downhill and I just don't 
see that stability then I think 

554
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
they are living off like 
individual performances and like

555
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,640
a lot of teams living off like 
just teams letting themselves 

556
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,120
down. 
So like Rangers and stability. 

557
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400
They lived off, like you said, a
couple of really good goals that

558
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520
they scored. 
And yeah, I just think like they

559
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,240
will eventually end up on the 
slide now. 

560
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,720
We'll hold you to that. 
Looking elsewhere, I was at 

561
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,200
Easter Rd. as Hibs won four nil 
against Livingston. 

562
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Really strong game from Hibs. 
David Gray saying he hoped they 

563
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,400
could have had a couple more 
goals. 

564
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,920
He said that Evan I asked Evan 
asked for we saw the big thing 

565
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400
was the reaction to losing our 
game first game of the season, 

566
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520
which was a defeat at Hearts 
just before the international 

567
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080
break and they did it in a 
perfect way. 

568
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Four goals, a clean sheet and he
said again, we could have got 

569
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,160
more but the biggest fan as 
follows the intensity and we got

570
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,960
that from the start. 
I mean, I'd agree with what I 

571
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,800
saw and correlating with what he
said there. 

572
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440
I definitely think they could 
have a couple more think Karen 

573
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Berry and collegiate who got his
first league goal of the season 

574
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,040
record signing for him. 
So finally and a value that's 

575
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,360
starting to live up to what he 
paid with the goal. 

576
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,840
But I think they could be a 
little bit disappointed with not

577
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560
going in with more goals and 
they had 1/2 time and then they 

578
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,280
run out for now winners with 
junior Hoyle grabbed too late 

579
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,280
on. 
That's Hibs first one since the 

580
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280
first league came the season. 
So two wins the season smart and

581
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,640
draws and the defeat against 
Hearts obviously come in last 

582
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,120
week. 
Your last last match day before 

583
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,160
that it drew now now with Celtic
losing 1 nil to Hearts is never 

584
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,280
great, but in the context of 
been a tight game between 1st 

585
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,360
and either further whatever 
place it was at that point, do 

586
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,360
you think we're starting to see 
a bit more of the hips team we 

587
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,880
saw last season? 
I think yes and no. 

588
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,840
I think it's definitely more 
positive than it was a wee while

589
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,560
ago. 
I saw them get a point at 

590
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Parkhead and I'm used to a hips 
team that would come out and 

591
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,320
attack a wee bit more and they 
really didn't do that but make 

592
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,200
that point was still a positive 
for them. 

593
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,160
But I wasn't impressed by them 
to be honest. 

594
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,120
And they went, I think that 
Livingston game that they just 

595
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,200
won was a first win since last 
beat Livingston in the League 

596
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,120
Cup, which was before they'd 
even lost out in Warsaw. 

597
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:05,800
So I mean, it could be, it could
be one of one of those games 

598
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,360
like Aberdeen beating Dundee 
that just starts then turning it

599
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,680
around a wee bit. 
Obviously Hibs is low was 

600
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,040
nowhere near what Aberdeen's has
been this season. 

601
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,680
Only one league defeat. 
It's been draws. 

602
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280
Draw after draw, it's just draw.
Exactly, it's just been an 

603
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,240
insane amount of draws and it 
probably sums up the league to 

604
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:28,040
be honest. 
Yeah, but no, I mean, I, I stand

605
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,960
by that. 
If Aberdeen hadn't been so poor,

606
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,920
more attention would have been 
on David Gray because obviously 

607
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,480
so much was being said. 
Jimmy Tully may be going because

608
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,520
of where Aberdeen were a few 
weeks ago. 

609
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,280
But you know, the overall job 
that David Gray's done has been 

610
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,400
so positive. 
Any, any talk I'm good would 

611
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,320
have been insane. 
And I, I do think they'll be OK 

612
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,640
this season. 
What OK as the Hibs? 

613
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,640
I don't know, because I think 
Celtic, Rangers and the Hearts 

614
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,280
will occupy the top three spots.
And at the start of the season, 

615
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,000
the Hibs fans probably would 
have said that third was what 

616
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000
they're aiming for. 
So I don't know if they would 

617
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,640
change that now or not. 
It's a very competitive league 

618
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,040
this season. 
They're shaping up because, you 

619
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,120
know, you know, you know, 
Rangers are probably going to 

620
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,200
get that turned out at some 
point, you know, with a new 

621
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,640
magic man defined form again, 
it'll be it won't be a case 

622
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,240
similar to what we've seen 
through the opening fixtures of 

623
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480
the season, or at least I mean, 
that's not what you expect. 

624
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,640
I'm not going to say whether or 
not that's the case or not, but 

625
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,400
yeah. 
And obviously Aberdeen, you 

626
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,160
touched on them, they're feeling
really struggled with them 

627
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,680
throughout the start of the 
season. 

628
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,680
We struggled throughout the 
whole latter end of the, you 

629
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880
know, last season getting the 
Scottish Cup one doing a lot 

630
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,560
from and you know, like a credit
he's got in the bank with Don 

631
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,960
support and the board beat some 
man one nil at the weekend. 

632
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,920
That's their second one of the 
season back-to-back wins. 

633
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Felon said he's proud of the 
team. 

634
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
They managed game in different 
areas and they were resilient at

635
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,600
the end to them at shots they 
had where a lot. 

636
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,160
We just have to be a little bit 
better when we're creating 

637
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,639
chances. 
Sometimes you just need to 

638
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,840
someone to step up and Marco's 
goal was incredibly good. 

639
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,920
That was magnificent and I'd 
agree with him there. 

640
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,199
It was a not a Croy turn, but a 
ton of sorts. 

641
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:21,400
He lures who defended and the 
the touchline and then just flex

642
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,760
it around and then shot as I 
mean, it's a lovely goal to go 

643
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,040
and see if you've not seen it. 
Definitely going to catch the 

644
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,600
highlights is well worth the 
watch. 

645
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,360
There was a questionable via 
decision, but it wasn't 

646
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,000
questionable in the sense it 
wasn't offside. 

647
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,480
It was definitely offside 
interference, but it's taken a 

648
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,400
long time. 
You know, the balls come out the

649
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,400
boxes could arguably be a 
different phase of play, which I

650
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,320
think some man fans would 
probably argue it was feeling, 

651
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
like you said, being a lot of 
heat at the start of the season.

652
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,960
I mean, I don't know, drop this 
to you as well. 

653
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Do we feel like he's got them 
playing again or is it too early

654
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,360
to tell? 
I think I'll just touch on Hibs,

655
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,840
just to go back to the point, 
just on their game now, I'll 

656
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,400
quit lie. 
I think so. 

657
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,640
With Hibs, I think they're the 
opposite to Dundee. 

658
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,880
I think they are in a more 
stable spot under Grey, but I 

659
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,680
think that my faults on Grey are
somewhat a good one where I 

660
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,600
think like he doesn't have 
obviously that the natural 

661
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,520
experience because not being in 
a coaching role long enough. 

662
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,840
So it's not to say we'd never 
get to, you know, improving, but

663
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,640
I do feel like they're starting 
to show signs of, yeah, like 

664
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040
just being tactically sort of 
inept at some points. 

665
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Like obviously Joe touched on 
the Celtic game, right? 

666
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,240
So obviously they got a good 
point at Celtic, but the key 

667
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:44,960
point for me was how he said 
they played. 

668
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,960
So they went to Celtic to get a 
point effectively and hope maybe

669
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,040
to sneak a goal, but didn't 
really try and entertain and 

670
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,200
play free form football, which 
Hibs fans always would refer the

671
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,280
Hibs teams play like. 
So David, they changed that sort

672
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,440
of approach when he went to 
Celtic and OK got that positive 

673
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,240
result. 
They played the exact same game 

674
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,040
in the Derby as well. 
They just sat with a back five 

675
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,040
and two holding midfielders and 
didn't come out didn't really 

676
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,920
play well midfield at all. 
So I think like they'll be OK as

677
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,760
getting late July. 
Not don't really know where 

678
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,720
they're going to finish. 
I'd like to think they would. 

679
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,960
Well, I hope they don't, but I'd
like to think they'll finish in 

680
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,840
the top 6. 
I just feel like unless they 

681
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,440
start attacking teams and 
playing like like more freely as

682
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,360
a team, like, you know, using 
the wing backs better than teams

683
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,120
where they you'd expect to 
dominate like that against 

684
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,560
obviously Levy. 
But again, I don't know how much

685
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,080
to eat into that. 
I did feel like a lot of the 

686
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,520
game, I did feel the game was a 
lot more about like how good the

687
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,120
new like how good clutch was. 
Like I really thought clutch was

688
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,400
played really well. 
I actually shocked that and 

689
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,960
happy that he's not played and 
Boyle's been playing stadium for

690
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000
the first few weeks because I 
think if it had been clutch and 

691
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Berry upfront there again, like 
Barry and Boyle, very opposite 

692
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,520
players, but clutch is obviously
a lot younger. 

693
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,960
How's that potentially? 
Whereas Boyle obviously he can 

694
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,160
provide moments, but as 
everybody knows, he's sort of 

695
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,120
again at the other side his 
career. 

696
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,040
So like that was the main 
positively Hibs. 

697
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,320
But that's feel like obviously 
the man for man have a lot more 

698
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,280
quality than living. 
It's hard to tell like how good 

699
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,280
I went to the goals. 
Well, that was the second-half. 

700
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,120
They ran away winners, but 
Martindale obviously I did as 

701
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,560
well. 
But how like performance wise, 

702
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,960
there's ways to lose a game and 
it felt like his players didn't 

703
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,760
really turn up. 
So the Hibs get the same 

704
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,280
positive performance and it's a 
team that does play well. 

705
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Like if they play like again, a 
Motherwell or Kilmarnock, 

706
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,640
whoever, whoever all those teams
are that in about Hibs, like are

707
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,360
they going to get the same 
result or outcome? 

708
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,440
Because if they don't play, 
they're still playing with that 

709
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,080
same backfield that Gray never 
moves from still playing, you 

710
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,120
know, with the one backs, are 
they going to be defensive or 

711
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,040
are they going to actually play 
with any freedom in the 

712
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,640
midfield? 
I just feel like is like non 

713
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,480
existent like so I don't like if
I was to put that Hibs midfield 

714
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600
against that Motherwell Field 
midfield right now, I know what 

715
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,840
one I'd want and it isn't have 
just midfield. 

716
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,920
So yeah, I do wonder where 
they'll they'll end up under 

717
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
grief if he is again, won't make
changes and tweak how he plays 

718
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,640
games. 
But again, it comes with 

719
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,440
experience. 
It makes sense and recognize it 

720
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,600
because obviously did get a turn
around last time for them. 

721
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,160
And and generally speaking, like
you've said, James, I don't 

722
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320
think like, you know, there's 
not certainly not racked up a 

723
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,560
lot of losses. 
But here they are the two 

724
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,880
European Cups and League Cups. 
So they've only got the league 

725
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,160
to focus on. 
So yeah, it'd be interesting to 

726
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,520
see Aberdeen short and sweet 
with them. 

727
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,760
To be honest. 
They don't trust to lean. 

728
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
I give the on the Scottish Cup. 
He'd be bent him. 

729
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960
I don't I don't I don't buy into
whatever you fancy. 

730
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,960
But to lean like it's his record
as shocking it so like. 

731
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040
I mean, Finn obviously not on 
the podcast today, he's away. 

732
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,640
He's actually travelling to 
Athens for Aberdeen's Conference

733
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,160
League fixture. 
He, I mean, when I speak, when I

734
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,800
spoke to him about personally 
the Scotland game and he 

735
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680
references the Scottish Cup game
is like a big thing like that. 

736
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,360
You know, he brought such a good
night. 

737
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,040
You know, that seemed down a lot
of like I said, credit in the 

738
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,240
bank with the guys and they 
don't support and. 

739
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,800
But for me it's like, it's like 
it feels like a 90 minute man to

740
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,080
be honest. 
For me, like 90 minute man won a

741
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Scottish Cup. 
It's obviously some massive, 

742
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,560
actually one in that trophy is a
massive achievement, no doubt. 

743
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,720
There's no doubt with that. 
Nobody would. 

744
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:25,480
They thought that we're going to
do it, especially with the form 

745
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,280
they'd been in. 
But that form has never changed 

746
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,360
after it, before it. 
It's been like a slide for like 

747
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,800
what we're like nearly a year 
now had bad results. 

748
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,280
But the 90, the 90 minute man 
carries on because he's got in 

749
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,800
the bank if we played. 
Like winter football, for 

750
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,440
example, in the season started 
in January. 

751
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,320
It'd be a very grim tale for the
Don. 

752
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,960
So I don't think, you know, I 
know that's not the table we're 

753
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,480
looking at. 
And there's all lifts and buts 

754
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,040
in that respect. 
But yeah, I mean real, meant to 

755
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,080
be seen. 
Like I think. 

756
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,400
I think like obviously very, 
very unlikely to happen or touch

757
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,400
any kind of like with their 
enemy. 

758
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,160
But like if Macinnis had the 
drop off that he has, he will 

759
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,360
not get to the Scottish Cup 
final. 

760
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:10,000
He would be sacked. 
So I think like it's just a mad,

761
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000
it's a really mad scenario. 
But the longer from from my 

762
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,080
perspective, longer twins are 
the better to be honest. 

763
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,040
So I just think like they do 
have players and they do have 

764
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,800
quality. 
They've made loads of sign and 

765
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,080
spent loads of money as well. 
And I add for a normal forum 

766
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,400
team, so like. 
Again, to echo the point, 

767
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,680
they've spent all that money and
if you think about what they've 

768
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,320
had as an outcome from leaks, 
which is your bread and bar, 

769
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,000
like the drop off is huge when 
you consider what they've spent.

770
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520
I mean, look at if you put them 
in and like compact compare to 

771
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
like say St. 
Mirren, right? 

772
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,440
If you just look at pure leak 
results and we've got something 

773
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,920
from like the start of the drop 
off till now and look at Saint 

774
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,720
Mirren's points versus Aberdeen.
And again, look at the budget 

775
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:56,080
side, like they're miles apart. 
So like, I just, I don't know, 

776
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,080
like they've got good players 
there, but I don't think T1 will

777
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,920
get the tune out of them like. 
I just, I disagree with you, but

778
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,720
I mean, I was at the game again,
shark to the Nets, and you can 

779
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:09,800
see from there the confidence it
was brewing. 

780
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,120
I think there's a special player
in Carlson and maybe Tilling's 

781
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,640
not the best guy to do it, but I
think he's good enough to get 

782
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,000
enough of a team to do 
relatively well. 

783
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,480
But at this point, I actually 
don't know what relative success

784
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,440
is for Aberdeen. 
I don't know what they want from

785
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,400
this season. 
When they were I, I was always 

786
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,920
confident they turn around 
enough to not go down. 

787
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840
I know that sounds tough, but 
after they hadn't scored in the 

788
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,160
first six or seven games, it was
genuinely on my mind at one 

789
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,080
point. 
For a while I said I still don't

790
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,880
think they'll make top 6. 
The league is so tight now. 

791
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:55,520
It's actually not it's not out 
of their out of their realms at 

792
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,960
all. 
So it wouldn't surprise me. 

793
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,960
I think they've got a better 
squad than a lot of the teams 

794
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,640
that are performing above 
expectations that you're 

795
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Kilmarnock's and sit Byrons and 
some are doesn't notoriously 

796
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,160
hard going to go to. 
So for Aberdeen to go there 

797
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,760
don't they've got result there 
in a long time as well and I 

798
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,360
think that does show the 
confidence growing and the 

799
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,840
confidence plays such a big part
in football if the confidence is

800
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,480
there. 
And you can see the lack of 

801
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,640
confidence in the games that I 
went as well when they were 

802
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,440
doing Bradley I saw against 
Livingston when they drew Not 

803
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Now and I saw great with the 
League Cup to Motherwell and you

804
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,600
can see what they were trying 
but there was no belief there. 

805
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,240
I think Shakhtar really helped 
them in that respect and I can't

806
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,480
see them growing enough. 
I don't think it'll be a 

807
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600
spectacular season by their 
standards, but just like I said 

808
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,000
about your Hibs, I think they'll
be OK. 

809
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,680
Either of you know, like what 
the the European spots are for 

810
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,640
the end of the season because I 
know they're getting gradually 

811
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,440
worse. 
But like I'm just like you just 

812
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000
said there, Joe, a bit like if 
we think that Celtic, Rangers, 

813
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Hearts take top three, Aberdeen 
and Hibs will both be definitely

814
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,840
aiming for four. 
There are. 

815
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,320
Five there are five spots 5 but 
they're they're worse than they 

816
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,840
were this. 
Year. 

817
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,360
There's just more, like more 
qualifiers. 

818
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,600
Yeah, yeah. 
OK, cool. 

819
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,440
I think the main difference is 
4th place well had like Hibs had

820
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,200
the season. 
I think they were starting the 

821
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,120
conferences of Europa League. 
As the best as the next best 

822
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,920
spot, though still the Scottish 
Cup, right? 

823
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Yes, yeah, that's why like Hibs 
would normally have got it 

824
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,960
because I believe won the cup. 
It's going to be some Scottish 

825
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Cup then. 
The only other fixture in the 

826
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,800
Premier League was Scottish 
Premiership even was Motherwell 

827
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,560
1 Fokker 2. 
So Fokker now only one lost in 

828
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,880
the last four. 
Quite good going first side 

829
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,200
that's came up. 
There was a VAR decision though 

830
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:57,040
when the game was at Nell. 
Nell Motherwell having a goal 

831
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,800
chopped off. 
Yeah. 

832
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,480
And ask you had to say on that. 
He said we should have had. 

833
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600
We should have scored another. 
And I don't think I'm ever going

834
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,960
to understand how they disliked 
that goal. 

835
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,640
That's one of the worst of the 
year decisions I've ever seen in

836
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,200
my career. 
I've been for me, Brad Spencer, 

837
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,440
that player who's failed, 
doesn't even appeal for it. 

838
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,200
There's no, you know, outcry for
a foul. 

839
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,600
Very soft. 
Yeah. 

840
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Strange one there, but I was 
given nonetheless. 

841
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,840
Coming down into the 
Championship, two big results. 

842
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,440
One was the 5th Derby mean I was
at the game at least. 

843
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,240
Joe, obviously you're from the 
Bell and you said you've got a 

844
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,480
slight stake in that. 
Yeah, I'm actually from 

845
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,560
Kirkcaldy I. 
Didn't realise there's so many 

846
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,760
Kirkcaldy but he's in this I. 
Know So another another big 

847
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,880
grief fan then. 
No, no, far from it. 

848
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:56,240
All right, growing growing up, 
if I wasn't a park head, Eastend

849
00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:01,200
was the granddad go to. 
So I'm saying I'm from Kirkland.

850
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,040
I was born there. 
I've never lived in the in the 

851
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,440
town park. 
Nearest maternity ward seems to 

852
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:12,760
have taken a lot of names. 
But no, my heart's always 

853
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080
belonged to the only city in 
Fife, you see. 

854
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,200
And say when you lived there, 
journalist. 

855
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,760
But no I and with Neil Lennon 
being the manager there now as 

856
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,200
as well, been been keeping an 
even closer eye on them and I'm.

857
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Proud to dislike them, I guess. 
And oh. 

858
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,400
There you go. 
So, and I was, I was happy. 

859
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,720
I, I, I never expected a good 
game between these two sides, 

860
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
especially when it's been shown 
on television for like every 

861
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,360
championship game that's shown 
on the tail is an absolute 

862
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:50,440
stinker. 
But I I was happy that the 

863
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Furman got over the line because
they've had a really bad record 

864
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,800
than that fixture recently. 
And the Forman's problem I 

865
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,520
actually stand by since Kevin 
went to Hibs from them, they've 

866
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,640
never found a proper 
replacement. 

867
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,760
I still don't think Chris is 
that. 

868
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:11,120
But the problem has been scoring
goals and they managed to do 

869
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,360
that twice on Friday night. 
And to be honest, once the 

870
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,800
Herman got one, I couldn't 
really see Race threatening too 

871
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,600
much. 
And James, sorry to say, but 

872
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,480
they never did. 
And look at before the game 

873
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,160
people going to me. 
Well, how do you finger one 

874
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,280
tonight? 
Do you think going tonight like,

875
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,400
well, you know, Rovers and I 
went throwers. 

876
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,600
I was going to be honest. 
I think it'll be a game where 

877
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,520
two teams play quite bad. 
I know the Rovers haven't been 

878
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,720
in great form. 
I couldn't I didn't see that 

879
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,720
change coming. 
I welcomed that. 

880
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,800
But then and I'd spent, you 
know, if Dunfermline place 

881
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,960
slightly less worse than us, 
they'll get the one. 

882
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
And if they don't lose. 
And I felt honestly, I felt that

883
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,600
was the case. 
It was a game lacking in 

884
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,560
quality. 
Rovers come off the back. 

885
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Our game against air which was 
sandwiched between the Greece 

886
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,360
and Bellus games for Scotland. 
One of the worst performances 

887
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,360
I've seen for us in a very long 
times. 

888
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,640
The lack of creativity when he's
once brothers begging for 

889
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,040
thefted bullet because didn't 
see a scorn and then, like he 

890
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,400
says, the game went on at East 
End. 

891
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
I didn't. 
I was lacking any faith that 

892
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,720
we're going to get a goal and I 
hate being so critical on my 

893
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:20,880
team, but it just. 
Seems honest to you don't want 

894
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680
to be deluded and say things are
fair when they're not. 

895
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,360
The game plan just seemed to be 
they seem to bear a key in trend

896
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,680
and chatter into the channels 
and trying to get runners going 

897
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,480
and the family just mopped up 
that we didn't have to work hard

898
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,360
to keep us out. 
And you know, the goal is scored

899
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,120
by the Stewart opener was a 
moment of real quality. 

900
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,120
But. 
What does he keep her playing up

901
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:44,480
by the way? 
I. 

902
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Don't know, it's just it was 
just no, that was on real moment

903
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,480
of quality in the game. 
I think Stevens is kind of 

904
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,560
culprit for their second and 
Chris and Kane get gold side. 

905
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,720
They probably expected more of 
my guy who has experience, but 

906
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,480
it happens. 
Yeah, like you know, that's one 

907
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,840
one win, one draw on our last 
six. 

908
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,160
So partick vessel for the Rovers
of the Saturday. 

909
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,600
A bit big game for Robson to try
and get a tune I think. 

910
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,280
He's in trouble already, James. 
I didn't until Friday night. 

911
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,760
I'd kind of I'd been up and down
wall seen us play for. 

912
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,560
We were hard done by. 
You know, Ross County didn't 

913
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,000
really offer much often the 
goals he scored different. 

914
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,120
We controlled the game, but we 
ran up there knowing they hadn't

915
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,920
won a game all season. 
It was probably just going to be

916
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,280
one of these things where they 
got the win. 

917
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,080
They were finally, you know, due
it whether or not there and on 

918
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,160
the patch sort of thing. 
Yeah. 

919
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,440
And I think being losing the 
Derby, losing the game against 

920
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,320
the air was hard because it's it
was nice to lose that fashion 

921
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880
just, you know, no hope. 
And the performance coming into 

922
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,600
this one, it's got the extra but
a needle with a Darby, you know,

923
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,600
that puts the pressure on a 
more. 

924
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,120
So, yeah, see what comes on 
Saturday with that. 

925
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Elsewhere in the championship, 
Smokey's Smoke show up at a Gay 

926
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Field St. 
Johnstone, their first first 

927
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,320
league defeat of the season. 
But and it's now only one 

928
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,200
winning the last four for them. 
So they're starting to, you 

929
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640
know, find the championships not
going to be a walk in the park 

930
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,200
in that respect. 
Yeah. 

931
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,600
Are both three one winners 
there? 

932
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Don's Lonnie Finley Marshall 
grabbed a double there. 

933
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,480
It was one of my mates in the 
chat actually said when we saw 

934
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,120
that result, he said well, 
that's a proper. 

935
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,880
That's welcome to the 
championships. 

936
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,480
And Johnson. 
Yeah, because that's the sort of

937
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,200
is is a very competitive league 
and I think on anyone's day, 

938
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,960
anyone could be anyone else. 
And that kind of that that 

939
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,080
result for me just screamed out,
you know, that's just the 

940
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,440
championship all over really. 
And I've always found it to be 

941
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,840
the more competitive league in 
Scotland. 

942
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Maybe the season, not so much 
for the what's going on in the 

943
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,600
top flight, but yeah. 
And then and then dipping down 

944
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,120
into League One and two of it's 
the League 1. 

945
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,000
Hamilton and Stenoschmir keep up
the pace at the top of the 

946
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,600
table. 
They're both on 20 points after 

947
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Hamilton won four nil against 
Montrose and Stanley B Cove one 

948
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,120
nil. 
Not looking too good for Cove. 

949
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,720
They're at the foot of the table
after 10 games with only two 

950
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:18,320
points, only one goal in their 
last six games. 

951
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,280
That's pretty hard going. 
Over in a really bad way. 

952
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Yeah, it's not looking good. 
You just look at the table. 

953
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,520
After coming second last year, a
lot of their fans really would 

954
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,520
have wanted them to take on 
after they weren't even that far

955
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,920
behind our growth. 
They got the other playoff final

956
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,600
and lost to Airdrie, but you 
could kind of see early on it 

957
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,400
wasn't going to be that kind of 
season for them this year. 

958
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,040
After the financial issues came 
out, I didn't expect it to be 

959
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,560
this bad and Montrose are 
probably thanking their lucky 

960
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,360
stars because before the 
financial issues came out, 

961
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,640
Montrose probably would have 
been the favourites to go down 

962
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,320
and they're still not doing 
great, but it's looking like 

963
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,240
Cover gonna be the ones that are
fighting for their lives. 

964
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,520
Yeah, it's not looking good for 
them. 

965
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,080
And then League 2 Spartans still
clear three points at the top of

966
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,840
the league. 
He's cool, bright. 

967
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Obviously the new boys in the 
league continue their good start

968
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,920
to life in the 4th tier. 
So yeah, a lot going on over all

969
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,560
the leagues. 
I think that kind of draws our 

970
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,280
discussion to an end because we 
have been on for a wee bit and 

971
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,880
unconscious. 
We've we've snapped this one in 

972
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,200
on a work break, some of us. 
So we're needing to get back to 

973
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,360
that. 
Anyway, yeah, good discussion 

974
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,840
guys. 
Glad to have me both on. 

975
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,320
Any leaving thoughts before we 
end this one? 

976
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,400
Not from me. 
Just on just on Spartans like 

977
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,040
they deserve a lot of credit 
because East Kilbride came into 

978
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,240
this. 
Everyone knew they had decent 

979
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,520
financial backing. 
Obviously a lot of publicity 

980
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,400
around, but Kennedy inside Ferry
being involved as well. 

981
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,560
But Spartans have been the ones 
that have really been had their 

982
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,440
foot on the gas this year and 
the vote they were I've seen 

983
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,840
that's they were doubt they were
very mid table last year. 

984
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,280
No wondering really knew what to
expect from them and their away 

985
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,120
form has just been spectacular. 
And so that Elgin a few a few 

986
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,360
weeks ago and it's Senator, It's
a hard place to go to. 

987
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,120
And then Elgin will be really 
worried this season as well. 

988
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Yeah, well, like I said, 
exciting, exciting weekend. 

989
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Scottish Football Watch of 
what's the big results? 

990
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,520
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991
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,680
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999
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1000
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,600
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1001
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,240
It's great talking to you all. 
Sure, next time we discuss in 

1002
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1003
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,960
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