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Welcome to the noise, listen to 
the passion and hunter car 

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let's. 
Jump again. 

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It's dying. 
Let's move on. 

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Great done by Dunphy. 
Chance the one for Scotland. 

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So hello and welcome back to the
Scots for Mike podcast. 

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I'm your host James Scott and 
it's been another busy week in 

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Scottish football. 
We've had the World Cup draw, 

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something that's heart and army 
we're all getting very excited 

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about. 
And we also had a really good 

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result for Hearts. 
We weren't going to talk too 

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much about the club football 
that happened, but I think it's 

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hard to avoid what happened at 
Celtic Park on Sunday. 

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Joining me for this episode is 
Fenn Crocker. 

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Fenn, good to have you on. 
Good to be back. 

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Good to be back. 
Busy week as usual. 

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Yeah, busy, busy night for us. 
And Friday night after the job 

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we were the stress all that. 
Had to go for a few pints just 

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to. 
Yeah, just a few, just a few. 

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Lay off some steam and Adam from
Gorky Talk a good episode to 

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have you on for. 
Yeah, glad to be back on the 

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pod, mate. 
Be be a good one. 

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I we've seemed to avoid you when
Hearts form depth, put your back

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on after I went at Celtic Park. 
Is that is that from the 

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shadows? 
Do you know I'll, I'll make a 

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conscious effort the next time 
we have a horror show to be on 

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there. 
That part and that by the way, 

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that's a guarantee. 
So I. 

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Prefer some of my colleagues. 
They were like, it's not not too

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much horror shows. 
They were trying to like die and

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play the the bad results are 
like, you know, we're just any 

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any other season. 
We'd take some of these all over

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the Kelly one at home. 
We'll talk about a lot. 

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More I was at, I was at the 
killer game as well. 

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Glorious at some point so you 
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when that happened. 
That's already happened against 

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Aberdeen mate, didn't it? 
One that you made, quite 

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literally. 
Yeah. 

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Right. 
Well, anyway, First things first

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and World Cup draw. 
Think next. 

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Someone feels just a little bit 
more closer after Friday's draw.

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Just a little bit more tangible,
a bit more real though, that we 

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know what group, when, who we're
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we're going to be playing. 
So yeah, it was a ceremony. 

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It certainly was a ceremony. 
More of a soccer maybe, but. 

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Fucking Netflix documentary 
Jesus. 

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Correct. 
Yeah, it went on for quite a 

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while and we eventually got 
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what was it, Corp 6:00 and I 
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It was half 6. 
Half 6. 

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Names came out at the heart, 
Brazil and Morocco were drawn 

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together and in Scotland were 
the team that eventually ended 

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up in Group C and then Haiti 
were the the fourth team to join

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us from Part 4. 
Before we get decking into a 

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little bit deeper, just initial 
reactions from you both are in 

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the draw and you know the group 
we've ended up in. 

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Yeah. 
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James, obviously watching the 
draw and soon as Morocco is 

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drawn in the same part as 
Brazil, same group as Brazil, we

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were all thinking avoid that 
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Although the locations were 
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just thinking, oh God, here we 
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And then as it got to to Group C
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African team and South American 
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bound to happen. 
You could see the stars aligning

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and. 
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other just as each one of them 
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And we're like, we know how this
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Yeah, we know what's going on 
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So. 
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Initial initial despair because 
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the hardest part to a team by 
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the older guys that have waited 
27 years and then been drawn in 

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the in a group with two of the 
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But no, obviously was nervous 
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winner like Italy or Denmark. 
Luckily those were both drawn in

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Group A and Group B to spare us.
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think obviously having them 
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drawn Haiti, had we done Haiti 
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coming in for the playoffs in 
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really must avoid. 
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Marving Turkey and other as 
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would wouldn't it just pose a 
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Brazil and Morocco probably 
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against as well. 
Steve Park commented on the draw

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in respect to the fact that we 
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all. 
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think for especially guys in 
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possibly use well, Adam Link. 
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non European teams in friendlies
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Scotland getting to play Brazil 
or Argentina or someone in a 

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competitive match and, you know,
just getting to getting to 

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experience something a little 
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As he said, obviously it's a 
good draw. 

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C plus exact words where it's a 
good draw. 

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It took a long time for them to 
get on the draw. 

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Mind. 
The draw is fantastic. 

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One of the big things in my head
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So we're playing three top sides
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of the world and that's what the
World Cup is all about. 

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So yeah, I think it's a really 
good draw. 

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Pretty much agree with that, 
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Yeah, pretty much. 
I mean, unfortunately I'm in 

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that older category of seen. 
I seen the previous one, albeit 

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I was only the tender aged 9 
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maths. 
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for two of the same three teams 
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It was a bit of a second or when
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But then when you look along the
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like, and I've just a quick look
again, they're like, I remember 

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like watching it and the pour 
and rain, watching my son's 

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training and thinking when is 
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be drawn? 
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then it got drawn. 
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I'm thinking like there's like 
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Portugal, Colombia, Spain, 
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And I'm thinking, yeah, I'd much
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than any of those. 
And obviously we'll go into that

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shortly. 
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it. 
I agree with the point you 

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should have made, Steve Clark, 
as well as right, as that's the 

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point of World Cup, right? 
You don't want to just be facing

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European teams were used to all 
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So it's good to do something for
a change in power. 

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What's against like, let's see 
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world looking forward to it. 
Yeah, so you might be a ticket. 

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Do you remember, would you watch
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I mean they they get on at 
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Do you remember them getting the
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Nah, man, I mean I can barely 
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To be fair, I think I do 
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school. 
Like I think I do remember it. 

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Brazil was it, you know. 
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like flashbacks because of the 
moments like because there was a

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penalty. 
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it was the usual like well, 
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main understanding that the 
glorious failures are like we 

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get so close and then we we fail
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Then that, yeah, that mix up at 
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They remember the Norby 1 so 
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we've managed to get the one 
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like the one again where you're 
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And I think Morocco at the time 
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So again. 
Everyone was like hyping up, all

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came, we're going to get 
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Morocco. 
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just to like, you know, it's not
a game of I can recall seen at 

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any point and um, it was, you 
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those typical Scotland games, 
like we had loads of chances 

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based on the highlights. 
Uh, they went one nil up, quite 

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a good goal. 
The second goal was like a 

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shocker and then we got mine 
sent off and you just I've been 

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in the stands and these 
scenarios know exactly how it 

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feels. 
Like a late 90s version of self 

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destruction for Scotland that's 
obviously continued for decades 

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of ourselves in the. 
Brazil game, I'd say it's funny 

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you seen about watching that 
skill and remember in the 

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penalty, the penalty is like one
of my like claims to like being 

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an early Scotland fan for a 
black moment because I was born 

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in 1997. 
I was 11 months old in July and 

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and June of the 98 World Cup and
I got taken to the pub for it by

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my mom and dad. 
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And when John Collins scored, I 
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into tears. 
I mean, I was I was in tears. 

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I mean, Tommy scored at Hamden. 
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here's a joy I knew I was in 
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So yeah, obviously, I mean, I 
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group, so it was definitely I 
think me and you fan penned 

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Argentina one good Jai. 
I think Jay, that wouldn't have 

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been a bad one to be. 
And I think I quite like the 

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idea that. 
But yeah, I think 1 like this. 

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The appeal of it is I think 
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and Brazil as two teams. 
I just like to see us play 

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before the draw. 
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maybe, but I think yeah, Part 2,
there was a lot of teams like 

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Iran. 
I mean, I mean like, games 

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aside. 
Yeah, obviously, like talking 

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from a spectacle standpoint, 
that'll be a very good game to 

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watch. 
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it's not as a Scotland fan, but 
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Austrian Part 2. 
Those are the kind of teams 

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you're kind of hoping to maybe 
get Morocco and maybe Croatia, 

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the ones you're trying to avoid.
Obviously being Scotland, we get

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Morocco straight away, but no 
Haiti, Kuruko or Kuruso and Cape

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Verde were the three that you 
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You get one of them and you 
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I'm really emphasizing the word 
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And yeah, hopefully we get 3 
points on the board first game 

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and a good goal difference and 
then we can relax and bathe in 

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the Miami Heat, which is going 
to be absolutely scorching for 

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the players. 
Yeah, I saw something today as 

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well that every half of every 
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be a two or three minute pause 
for hydration in each half. 

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Yeah, so. 
That a football as you can to 

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the 22nd minute or something 
and. 

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That will give us the. 
Perfect, perfect. 

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Good fans, fun as well. 
I can we have a 2-3 minute. 

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Yeah, if they're providing that,
no, no. 

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Tell beer in America at games, 
do they not? 

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Oh. 
True. 

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Yeah, No, no, I'm just saying 
that'll give them a perfect 

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excuse to to run as many 
commercials as they say as 

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possible. 
There'll be commercials mid 

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water break. 
I'm telling you 100%. 

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I so I mean I touched on the 
draw again. 

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I just thought it was kind of 
crazy the way it worked out like

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me and fan were like trying to 
I'll be in. 

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I ended up finding a lot of time
to book extra accommodation and 

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I were from the start of that 
that we kept looking over and 

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like, oh, it's not started yet. 
And then I'd go back to the. 

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Last we were we were eating 
fajitas. 

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I'd booked everything and you're
like, oh shit, I should probably

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book something. 
And by the time the draw 

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started, I think you'd booked 
everything. 

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Yeah, that colored like pretty 
much most of these coasts. 

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And then I mean, that was that 
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mean for the Tarn army been 
drawn into the script because of

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all the locations. 
I definitely think we've landed 

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a more affordable group of 
games. 

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Well, if you can call it that, 
yeah, I mean. 

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I know what you mean. 
I know what you mean. 

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Yeah. 
In comparison to what else you 

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could have, Yeah, definitely. 
So we've. 

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In Seattle, prices were out. 
We were looking and we didn't 

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even book anything. 
But yeah, me and James, we got 

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good flights to New York from 
Manchester, good return flights,

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good price. 
So we'll be heading out there on

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the 11th to 27th. 
Think you're 11th to 26th. 

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All three games we'll be there 
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And then, yeah, I think if we 
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Boston. 
We'll just, we'll just go the 

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we'll go to Haiti game, the 
first one, OK, Say Haiti ranked 

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84th in the world game through 
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campaign. 
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Costa Rica and Nicaragua. 
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points clear of Honduras. 
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entry a long way. 
A couple of other countries like

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Carousel. 
I don't think I've got the 

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pronunciation right. 
Definitely promised the better 

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than Wayne Gretzky did not. 
Rocco. 

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No, no, definitely not. 
So in terms of the players, not 

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a lot of big names people 
recognize 1. 

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You might recognize Fan, but in 
Aberdeen Fan, you were in Athens

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a couple of weeks ago. 
The striker Piero Yeah key 

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Athens he assessed against using
that so night that you'd 

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probably rather forget. 
Yeah. 

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Not so welcome reminder for you.
Yeah, thanks. 

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Thanks for that, James. 
No, I do. 

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I don't remember much of that 
night. 

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I think after I just dragged 
myself to death. 

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No, but I think they've got him.
They've got a boy. 

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I can't actually remember the 
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the top of my head, but he 
played an MLS for Houston Dynamo

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and a couple of teams. 
Maybe but. 

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Yeah. 
No, I don't know. 

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Any of their players, really. 
The only other guys I've knew I 

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got there. 
I think it's Belgarde or Belgard

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for Wolves, and then Oh yeah, 
and then there's Del Croix for 

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Barnley, but again, apart from 
the on. 

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I thought it was French. 
Well, there's quite a big link 

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there. 
I think there's a few guys that 

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are born in France have changed 
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kind of. 
So I think there's. 

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Only one there's there's one 
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Teeth Chong and. 
So he's. 

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Also of Dutch heritage, Yeah, 
but no, I think there's been 

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reports coming out from Haiti. 
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that they are going to be 
targeting Jill Nationale 

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players, so watch out for that. 
Maybe their squad will be, well,

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one of the names by the time 1. 
Of the names, it was 10, no. 

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As you know, I'll see it mark 
some money, yeah. 

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But it was someone, I was going 
to say 20 years old former 

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Newcastle player. 
I think everyone members on for 

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the the designer headbands they 
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He's now a. 
Good. 

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She ones, yeah. 
Yeah, he's now at Club America. 

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It's not been confirmed yet, but
I think, I mean, he's just been 

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given a lifeline to appear at 
World Cup. 

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Yeah, he was that Al Akhley in 
Saudi Arabia as well. 

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Yeah. 
And then he's, yeah, it's. 

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A better you turn James like it 
because I looked earlier on 

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today at that and then like 
there's a few articles for the 

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through the search engine. 
I looked down it was like it was

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done 2 two or three weeks ago. 
Most that was saying he drooled 

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out, not like not all of them 
were like concrete, like it was 

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5050. 
Like some sources you could, you

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know, like put in the back of a 
fag packet and then the other 

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sources you could maybe see them
as kind of like genuine sources.

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But like, yeah, like I'm more 
than your count for that. 

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Like if there's a chance to be a
World Cup like then I think is 

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he not French chance at Max men?
Yeah, yeah, he's capped up to 

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under 20 ones for the French. 
I mean the. 

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Chances of getting the French 
squad? 

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That's like, no? 
Not to be. 

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It's just like Harvey Barnes. 
They talked to him coming over 

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to Scotland. 
National team Mixed depends on 

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it from well everyone. 
If you're not meant, yeah, yeah,

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I'm I'm of the same opinion, I 
think. 

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Yeah. 
It's hard from players that have

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worked so hard, but I think 
there's people that have been 

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overticked by Steve Clark that 
maybe that's the only way they 

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get forced at the squad. 
So I'm of the opinion getting 

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in, if it makes us a better 
squad, especially with Ben Doak 

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seemingly injured all the time, 
then I'm all for it. 

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We'll focus. 
We'll keep focusing on Haiti, 

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yeah. 
I know you're of a different 

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opinion too. 
I'm both. 

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I hate being like AI, hate being
a grump like that, but. 

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James that's why we have 
podcasts mates so we have 

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opposite opinions and chat for 
people like us engaging with 

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each other. 
I mean you're wrong like but 

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what? 
It's not the opinion all the 

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same. 
I don't like he's been asked, 

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I'm positive he's been asked 
already and he's obviously not 

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taken up on it because he's 
waiting on an England. 

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Co-op. 
He said he'd had earlier talks 

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with Steve Clark but nothing 
concrete, so I don't know what. 

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Yeah. 
And for me, like the Navy blue 

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jersey is no less valuable than 
a white 1. 

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And I just think if you've been 
asked once and you've said no, 

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you know I've said no. 
I know see key thing mate. 

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Like if for me I'm I'm instantly
with you. 

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If he's, if it actually comes 
out that he's been asked before 

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and said no, like I'm with you 
like now, then it kind of just 

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turn up just because we're a 
World Cup. 

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Can't. 
I don't want players, just 

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Scotland actually to play. 
It's because I think it's 

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because James, it's not being 
categorically said. 

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And then I think when that 
what's that reporter guy that 

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does the Nuka Scottish reporter 
does it, Keith, Tony or someone 

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like that? 
Yeah. 

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I think it was him though, or 
somebody that questioned them 

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the moment we got through and 
like. 

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Yeah, like the next thing he had
a pre. 

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Kind of. 
Schedule interview and he was 

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like, and I think he started 
replying to people that are 

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commenting on it. 
So whatever saying like listen, 

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he never said they wanted to be 
part of Scotland because I know 

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at the World Cup he said, I just
thought I would ask because he 

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was eligible. 
Like would you like, would you 

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be up for that? 
He's like, so I know, whereas I 

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think folk could like jumped on 
it to see like, oh, I or just 

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cares all of a sudden because 
we're at a World Cup where it 

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seems like not all. 
I as a reporter literally asked 

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him. 
He didn't mention anything about

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until I asked them. 
So I mean, we'll just. 

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Watch this space, I suppose. 
Yeah, got to March next 

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international break, so see what
develops over that time. 

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Same with Haiti. 
Obviously you're saying then 

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they are looking to draft and 
guys are eligible, so we might 

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have a conversation down the 
line. 

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And we can actually touch on 
something else that Steve Clark 

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said. 
He said he wants to play a 

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friendly with at least one 
country from each of those 

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continents. 
So there was rumours about a 

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friendly against Argentina. 
Obviously maybe that will happen

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now. 
I don't know who would play from

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CONCACAF, maybe Jamaica or 
something like that, or maybe a 

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bigger nation like US or 
something. 

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I don't know. 
And. 

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You like the thought of that 
idea, to be honest. 

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Yeah. 
And then maybe obviously we've 

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never, I don't, I don't know 
where these friends, friendlies 

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we played, but obviously we've 
never, the men's team has never 

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played a game on African soil, 
only the women's team to die 

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against Morocco just a couple of
months back. 

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So maybe, maybe there's a trip 
to Africa, to the extremely few 

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that can afford it. 
Yeah, I've not got enough money 

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for this. 
The money is all going towards 

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the States for me. 
Very, very little entry for for 

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getting tickets to that. 
I think what it might be as 

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well, it depends like, like, so 
say it's like an African 

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country, it depends what country
they play. 

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Sometimes they'll organize it in
such a way that they've got a 

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squad that's playing in certain 
parts of Europe and stuff. 

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Because I think like, for 
example, was it not Brazil? 

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Senegal wasn't like Wembley, 
Yeah. 

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And a friendly so like I think. 
Not. 

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Not saying we'll be played at 
Wembley. 

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But like, you know what I mean? 
We had a. 

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Few years ago we played Nigeria 
at Craven Cottage. 

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Aye, so that's what I mean. 
Like it might be something like 

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that. 
It'd probably be more the most. 

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I think that'd be more what 
Steve Clark would talk for then 

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my whatever they would end up in
Africa or whatever. 

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But yeah, no. 
Yeah. 

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On the flip side though, 
obviously it's going to be 

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extremely hot, so maybe getting 
a game in where there's extreme 

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hot conditions to see how it 
ends, yeah. 

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The game against Haiti as well, 
I mean it was going to be hot. 

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It's in Boston and 1st 2 games 
in Boston at the Gillette 

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Stadium, the Boston Stadium and 
stuff which is. 25 miles away 

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from Boston. 
Yeah, so if you're, if you're 

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Scotland fan looking to get 
booked up for this game, 

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Providence, I was had a few 
people taking, you know, haven't

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taken pops at me saying why have
you booked there? 

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But like many of the stadiums 
for this tournament, they're not

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city centre based, they're not 
neighborhood based like British.

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Philippines. 
It's the Hamden in Boston, 

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James. 
Is that what you're saying? 

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Oh, it's well, the difference. 
The difference This was a Hamden

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in Boston. 
Obey. 

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Yeah, it's if what's what's 
Sterling's going forth? 

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Barton Forth. 
Bank, yeah. 

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It's the Fourth Bank of Glasgow,
essentially. 

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To give to give an example, cool
the distance between Boston city

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centre and the stadium is the 
same as between Manchester and 

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Liverpool. 
Right, there you go. 

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So I mean we've booked up, we've
booked up me Infinibo from 

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Providence for that one. 
So it's. 

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In the House of Glasgow, the fun
start that I got told by my dad 

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has also come in is that it's 
got the highest density of 

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coffee shops and donut shops in 
any set of any city in America, 

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certainly. 
What's look at? 

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Is that over? 
Yeah, doughnuts and coffee. 

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I'll get me up to noon and then 
after there I'm going to need 

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something a bit stronger. 
But no, it's about an hour of 

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public transport away from the 
stadium. 

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I was hoping to get to 
Philadelphia for fill a cheese 

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steak, but wasn't to be. 
We're in Boston. 

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It gives us a good base. 
I guess it's good for the 

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players and the fans. 
That's definitely good for the 

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fans and the team. 13. 
It's moving about. 

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It would have been. 
It's a smaller venue of I think.

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65,000 for all three games. 
Yeah, so the FIFA take a 10% cut

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for corporate 10. 1000 C Cut. 
10,000 Yeah, I wish. 

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That's the allocation for 
supporters club members will be 

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about 3500 and. 20 I've seen 
that. 

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I've seen that from. 
Yeah, that's from Gavin at 

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Scotland's Confession. 
All credit to him, he does all 

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the hard work. 
And yeah, we'll, we'll find out 

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more. 
They've released the fans over 

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that they said would they'd 
release and then they'll give 

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more details about tickets 
through the SSC I think in three

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days. 
So find that more than hoping to

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get a Category 2 ticket, which 
is not cheap, still $300.00, so 

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about £200 a pop. 
And yeah, flights are booked, 

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accommodation booked. 
It feels a lot more real like 

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you said. 
Yeah. 

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So, yeah, that one's 66,000, so 
well less than 10. 

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And you said 3500 for the 
supporters. 

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A good, a good allocation there 
for the Tarn Army, although one,

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I mean, it's not good for Haiti 
fans, but it's definitely a 

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benefit for the Tarn Army. 
I'm sure Haiti and Iran are two 

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nations that are banned from 
having traveling fans. 

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So the delegates and the players
get to come, but most well. 

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Early. 
Well. 

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Yeah, FIFA had to stand in to to
get Iranian delegates even to 

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the draw and they only got 3. 
So yeah, yeah, Iran and Haiti 

451
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,600
band, obviously that means it'll
feel a bit more like a home 

452
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,520
game, if you can even say that. 
I know there's a lot more 

453
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,280
opportunity for tickets in the 
resale platforms. 

454
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,640
Yeah, and it's just not going to
demand the same interest from 

455
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000
locals, apart from the fact 
there might be that people, 

456
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,760
Scottish heritage moles come to 
watch. 

457
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,480
I hope so. 
I. 

458
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,520
Feel that's that's half the 
country, isn't it? 

459
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,760
Yeah, it's a, it's a good. 
It's a good opportunity for tech

460
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,200
fans that miss out through the 
supporters club to get something

461
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,400
in the resale. 
And like you said, I mean it 

462
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,880
could be, I mean many, many 
phases. 

463
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,520
Of Scotland, I was going to say,
because in Germany there was 

464
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,320
reports somewhere, but well at 
peak there was about 100,000 

465
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,080
there, but across the whole 
tournament there was reports of 

466
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,680
about 200,000 travelling to 
Germany for the EUR. 

467
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,800
What do you think? 
Obviously it's a lot more 

468
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,040
expensive. 
What do you think those numbers 

469
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,440
could look like, both of you for
the USA? 

470
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,920
It's a hard one. 
It's so hard because I know 

471
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,000
people that don't have tickets. 
Mummy, he's not in the we, I 

472
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,240
think he is in a supporters 
club. 

473
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,520
He's. 
Not, I think, the difference 

474
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,400
with. 
This one is like you've just 

475
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,440
touched the nail on the head a 
little bit as well as like 

476
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,760
there's so many people with 
Scottish connections and by 

477
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,720
either Scottish people in 
America, like people that have 

478
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,360
got family or you know, 
Americans like their family 

479
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,280
trees and stuff. 
So somebody somewhere they know 

480
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,200
water kilt for them, however 
many generations ago. 

481
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,360
So like there's going to be 
loads of Scotland or Scottish 

482
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,960
related people over there on top
of the Tartan Army that are 

483
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,200
common. 
I really couldn't hang up. 

484
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760
I can't. 
On the one hand I can't imagine 

485
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,600
200,000 people going to America 
obviously. 

486
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,880
But then I'm like, I don't know 
what number I could put on it, 

487
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,160
but it'll still be a lot I 
think. 

488
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,360
I think it'll be like closer to 
20,000. 

489
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,880
I think that's a conservative 
estimate, not too high, not too 

490
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,320
low. 
We can see how many we see in 

491
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,920
Boston and Providence. 
But no, I mean, like you said, 

492
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,880
I've got someone was born and 
grew up in Aberdeen and then 

493
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,680
there's been in the States for 
25 years. 

494
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,120
So like you said, there's so 
many connections of so many 

495
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:28,600
people that are actually 
Scottish, not like the the group

496
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,040
that was interviewed that was 
talking about the Scotland 

497
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,080
result, the Scotland, yeah, 
Washington, Scotland fan club. 

498
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,680
If you've seen that interview, 
you'll know what I'm talking 

499
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,600
about. 
Yeah. 

500
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:42,160
Yeah, that's who we're going to 
be competing with tickets for, 

501
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,000
you just know. 
Exactly. 

502
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080
The ones that, the ones that ask
you what clan you're from, those

503
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,240
types. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

504
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,560
Yeah, some interesting dress 
choices in that video as well. 

505
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,160
I've never seen a suit like that
in my life, to be fair. 

506
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,440
Yeah, But yeah, then so we've 
got first game against 80I mean 

507
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,440
it's a it's a tricky 1. 
I think we spoke with this just 

508
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,520
before we came on and, you know,
in the warm up, when in this 

509
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,440
game is winnable, definitely 
winnable. 

510
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,920
But we know we've been here with
Scotland before. 

511
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,920
It's a lot of stakes right in 
the first game, you know, I 

512
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,040
mean, how do we approach this? 
Do you think? 

513
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,160
Is it I? 
Think it's better than having it

514
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,440
last because I think that's what
really done is in in the in the 

515
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,800
EUR Obviously we can't say we 
would have beat them if we 

516
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,160
played them first. 
But I think it's that whole 

517
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,200
sentiment of like obviously we 
know playing against it or 

518
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,640
Haiti. 
I don't know how to say it is a 

519
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,520
must win because of the other 
teams in the group, but it's the

520
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,320
fact where if it's the last 
game, it actually is if you lose

521
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,040
your out. 
Whereas I think if there's 

522
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,240
certainly there's still 
pressure, that is less pressure 

523
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,640
on it being the last game at the
whole final, the decider. 

524
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,040
So I think getting it first 
where there's still a lot of 

525
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,960
confidence within the fan group,
getting three points on the 

526
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,320
board and then having those two 
games where if you either don't 

527
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,480
lose heavily or even get a 
point, then you're through to 

528
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,120
the round of 32. 
So I mean it could really and 

529
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,680
that what that could do is set 
up the group going forward 

530
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,720
really well for us. 
Yeah, I think we're a momentum 

531
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,000
team a lot of the time. 
I think you saw that in Euro 

532
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,480
qualifiers where obviously got 
that first one against Cyprus, 

533
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,760
but then that big win against 
against Spain at Hampden really 

534
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,200
just got us into the flow of 
things. 

535
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,760
Then obviously Norway would game
we we won and obviously even 

536
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,600
could have top that group. 
And then World Cup qualification

537
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,640
again, even though performance 
were bad, I think if we just get

538
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,960
a couple of results, even then 
we go we go into this kind of 

539
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960
slow. 
And on the on the flip side of 

540
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,320
things, I think it can also 
happen in a negative way. 

541
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,800
So, you know, at the EUR losing 
heavily to Germany, I think that

542
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,440
just kind of sent us into a 
spiral. 

543
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080
Obviously Switzerland 
performance was better, but we 

544
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,920
never really recovered I don't 
think from that from that 

545
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,280
Germany game. 
So I think it's vitally 

546
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,320
important to get off to a good 
start and then I'm confident 

547
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,480
that we can we can finally break
that, you know, 100 and what 120

548
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,760
year curse where we've never got
a group stage. 

549
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040
Yeah, I was. 
I don't like that start though, 

550
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,360
because, you know, although 
we've never got the group stage.

551
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,880
If we've like to be in. 
No, if you if you go back to you

552
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:30,040
donate just like to be at that 
finals was pretty much you know,

553
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320
I think it was like 2 groups of 
four Yeah, like there was 8 

554
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,240
finals yeah, but like it's it's 
just the way as right coming 

555
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,480
into the next game. 
Actually 2 are still up in the 

556
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,400
North East of America, Morocco 
11th in the world, just outside 

557
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,120
the top ten. 
Like we said, unfortunately not 

558
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,200
to be a part one side. 
They've been doing very well 

559
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,680
completely undefeated and 
they're African qualifiers. 

560
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,080
It wins from eight games and a 
group of sex, obviously all 

561
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,320
possession varies massively. 
I mean they had nowhere near as 

562
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,720
tougher group as us, but you 
know in terms of our 

563
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,920
qualification. 
But they can only play what's in

564
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,680
front of them. 
And when you look for the team 

565
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,880
as well, certainly lots of call 
in there. 

566
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,440
I mean, Morocco's really stepped
up in terms of being one of the 

567
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,880
best sides in the world. 
That's in nevermind, one of the 

568
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,400
best African sides. 
They were the first African team

569
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,960
to get to the semi finals last 
World Cup. 

570
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Obviously got massive names like
Hakimi and Braham Diaz, Real 

571
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Madrid and PSG. 
Obviously some some other names 

572
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,040
that maybe if you're not a 
football nerd like me and James,

573
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,400
you won't know like Aguerd who's
at Marseille. 

574
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,560
I think now maybe you'll know 
him from Premier League time at 

575
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,600
West Ham, yeah. 
Yeah, no former I'm forgetting. 

576
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,480
My Amrabat is now at Bettis. 
Yeah. 

577
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,520
So I'm Robert Former and I'm, I 
think are you thinking of 

578
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Mazzarowi then as well? 
Yeah. 

579
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520
And then obviously and Naziri, 
who knocked Portugal out in the 

580
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,720
quarterfinals last time. 
Yeah, and then you've got a 

581
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,800
player that I think a lot of 
Scottish football will be. 

582
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,120
Oh yeah, the drama. 
Start the season. 

583
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Egg Imani Leal so and he's been 
starting for them as well. 

584
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,960
Yeah, he's been really well. 
And then, Oh yeah, and they're 

585
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,840
keeper Bona or Bona, Yeah. 
He's getting. 

586
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200
The best, Yeah, he's getting on,
but he's one of the best penalty

587
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,920
savers in the world, so let's 
hope we need that. 

588
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,720
No, don't need them. 
Yeah. 

589
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,280
So. 
Yeah, quality in that team, like

590
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040
you said, I think, I think 11th 
is their old world rank and I 

591
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,560
think Adjust has had the top 12 
because obviously 12 groups of 

592
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,800
four and it's done by world 
ranking. 

593
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,800
So there must be 13 to 14. 
No, I'm sure like I don't know 

594
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,200
when they've based. 
Because because of the hosts are

595
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,440
Part 1. 
You're right, yeah. 

596
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,600
No, they are so. 
They'll go, they'll feel hard 

597
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,960
done by, yeah. 
Who if it'd been a one host 

598
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,480
situation, Morocco would have 
been a Part 1 sides, yeah. 

599
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Puts it into scale, yeah. 
Adam, only one of us here may be

600
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,760
old enough to members play 
Morocco or just champion without

601
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,320
you. 
Again, what's realistic here in 

602
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,800
terms of this game, assuming we 
have one first game, Morocco 

603
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,560
could be coming into this with 
one point, with three or with 

604
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,800
none. 
It's hard to really see how that

605
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Brazil game with them could go. 
I mean, what's realistic for us?

606
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,360
I don't see why we can't get 
result. 

607
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,240
I would say Morocco's. 
We've got a lot of good players,

608
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,600
a lot of talent and like you 
said that up and coming, they're

609
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,480
progressive. 
I think their main issue is like

610
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400
a lot of African teams, they're 
heavily reliant on their players

611
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,360
getting to the big leagues in 
Europe, which they have 

612
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120
obviously achieved recently. 
They've got a lot of good talent

613
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,960
probably people have not even 
mentioned on top of the ones you

614
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,640
have. 
I. 

615
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Don't think that a level that we
haven't faced before. 

616
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,120
I don't that a level where we 
couldn't see ourselves like 

617
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,080
coming away we are a victory. 
I think every single team in 

618
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,720
that group like we can get 
something off every team working

619
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,600
at World Drunken's. 
It doesn't overly mean that much

620
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240
to me to be honest. 
They won an AO8 and their core 

621
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,360
first doesn't mean much to me. 
It's a great achievement 

622
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,440
obviously. 
But then I look at the opponent 

623
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,520
and I think, well, I'm not 
really that excited about the 

624
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160
fact, just want to and consider 
to an African qualifier like 

625
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,440
that doesn't really mean 
anything to me. 

626
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,760
So, but the differences as I 
find they have got the talent 

627
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,280
and the quality and and the, I 
would like to say it, forward 

628
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,760
thinking attitude. 
So I think like Scotland and the

629
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440
EUR, we've seen them and a lot 
of us were sort of crying out 

630
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,360
for Scotland to just be a bit 
more aggressive in terms like 

631
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,360
the forward thinking, in terms 
of attacking mainset, trying to 

632
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,480
get goals. 
We would always sort of bet 

633
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,600
don't be about how much we 
didn't really give it a go and I

634
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680
don't think that all core that 
kind of team. 

635
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,280
So like Morocco will give it a 
go. 

636
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Morocco or more than Keith boy 
turning us over. 

637
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,240
I think it's more that I'm more 
than worried about us not not 

638
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,320
turning up. 
We need to make sure we right 

639
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,280
the wrongs, but I think we have 
it in US based on the fact that 

640
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,720
like Clark talked about, you 
wanted to create like a a club 

641
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,560
mentality where people get a lot
of caps and a lot of experience 

642
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,280
in it and it's met it and a lot 
of these guys have met it and 

643
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,480
they're all playing in top 
leagues themselves. 

644
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,560
So I think we're in a much 
better place to show we can do 

645
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,600
on a backstage. 
And like you've just touched on 

646
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,920
earlier, if we can get that one 
against Haiti and a major 

647
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800
tournament, regardless of the 
fact that Haiti, it still then 

648
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,400
gives them that belief that a 
game in the turn up, no, against

649
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,440
Morocco, they'll be thinking, 
right, we can beat Morocco as 

650
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,720
well. 
And then what? 

651
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,200
You never know for their how it 
can look, even if they don't 

652
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,640
beat them at the time and a 
really good performance, then 

653
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,280
they might still feel they can, 
you know, do damage on Brazil, 

654
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,640
depending on how the results 
have went. 

655
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,920
So yeah, I'm confident in every 
game like I would if I put like 

656
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,640
productions on it. 
I'd be like a win against TT and

657
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,240
then I'd be hopeful if I draw 
against one of the other two and

658
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
then I defeat against one of the
two, that would be my outcomes. 

659
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Yeah, I think the goal has to be
a point in one of those two 

660
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,760
games, obviously, but I think 
I'm honestly more optimistic 

661
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920
about getting a result against 
Brazil than Morocco. 

662
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,960
I think Morocco look really, 
really good. 

663
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,520
I think Brazil are not the team 
that they once were. 

664
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Obviously everyone fears them. 
They're they're the team that's 

665
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
one of the most World Cups in 
history with five. 

666
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,080
But obviously they've got the 
individual players like 

667
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Vanessa's junior, all these 
players, but they're not working

668
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,520
well as a team, I don't think. 
Obviously, I think people forget

669
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880
that going into the last World 
Cup, they were massive favorites

670
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
as well. 
And then they had that massive 

671
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
collapse against Croatia in the 
quarterfinals. 

672
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320
Yeah, Neymar scored an extra 
time, looked like they were 

673
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,880
going through Sale, and then 
they had that collapse. 

674
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,480
Yeah, obviously Carlo Angela is 
their coach now, relatively new.

675
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,720
He spoke about the draw, said 
Scotland's a good team and it's 

676
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,400
going to be tough. 
Yeah. 

677
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,240
And to Steve Clark. 
See you soon. 

678
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,720
Yeah. 
I think Carl Angelotti and Steve

679
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Clark are eerily similar with 
how little emotion they show. 

680
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,880
But yeah, I think I think it's 
not the same team as France 98 

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,600
with, you know, R9, all those 
players. 

682
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,800
So I think we obviously we're 
not going to be confident going 

683
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,480
into the Brazil game, but I 
think we have to be optimistic 

684
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,440
at least to, to, to be on the 
front foot or, or get a point. 

685
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,720
I think, I think we can and I 
think like you said, four points

686
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,080
is the is the goal. 4 points 
will guarantee through. 

687
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Now with all the 3rd place 
teams, 8 out of 12 going through

688
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,920
three points, you've got a 
fighting chance and it'll govern

689
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,720
that the goal difference. 
And like we said, we're not the 

690
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,520
type of team that will beat IT 
or Haiti 6 nil. 

691
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,920
So yeah, we've got it in for 
four points. 

692
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,920
I think him just to touch on the
Brazil thing, that that thing 

693
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,760
about Angelotti, I think getting
Angela in with obviously always 

694
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,640
accolades, I think like he's a 
big factor in helping Brazil get

695
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
as far as they can get. 
I don't for any. 

696
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840
There's nothing in my mind 
telling me that they'll want it.

697
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,400
They're not. 
I'm not even sure how far down 

698
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,560
the road they'll get with the 
tournament. 

699
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,240
But as far as they get, I think 
it'll be more down there how 

700
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,960
Angela is sets them up, but they
do not like I'd go as far to see

701
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,800
like we're more organized. 
We're more that team than Brazil

702
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,640
at the moment. 
And obviously man for man 

703
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,720
quality and all that, obviously 
we're not we're not necessarily 

704
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,320
near them in certain aspects of 
the team. 

705
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,800
But like, yeah, like Morocco are
far more well drilled, far more 

706
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,719
organized, far more used to like
again, that one in mentality one

707
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,800
in every single game and playing
for each other. 

708
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,639
And whereas Brazil, there's 
always seems to be problems with

709
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,280
them. 
There's always issues where they

710
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,520
got a star player like a Neymar,
whoever then falls off the wagon

711
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,600
somehow, either off the field or
just, you know, former club. 

712
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Like you said, even off the 
field it's like. 

713
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,840
You don't hear anything. 
I don't like it. 

714
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,159
At all time I. 
Don't like it, mad at Rangers. 

715
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,560
You could argue with A1 like 
that, but you know what I mean? 

716
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,320
Generally speaking, you never 
hear that a bit like a Moroccan 

717
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,840
player or a Moroccan team. 
Again, it's they're a bit more 

718
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,960
like Scotland that they feel a 
bit more like a club, they feel 

719
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,280
more organized and they know you
know what you're going to get 

720
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,360
from them. 
But equally that's still a big 

721
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,400
problem because they're really 
good at what they do. 

722
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,719
And I think I took a couple of 
things there. 

723
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,840
But Brazil, you mate, again, you
could shoot me down if they've 

724
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680
been putting away somewhere and 
that's no Brazil. 

725
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,320
But I think then the Cup America
that will be in the 

726
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,920
quarterfinals finished 5th and 
qualifying in the World Cup for 

727
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,480
the World Cup qualifiers to 
finish 5th. 

728
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
And they haven't won outside the
Brazil in the last four 

729
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,160
competitive games. 
So the last thing they won at 

730
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,880
home was against Chile in 
October last year. 

731
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,560
And then when you look at the 
actual, when you look at the 

732
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,800
actual, you know, it's like a 
league table in South America. 

733
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,120
The 18 drew 4, lost six, and 
they only got eight points out 

734
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,520
of 27 on the road. 
So again, it makes you wonder if

735
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,400
they're again, not putting them 
in Brazil and more so not put 

736
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,600
them in their continent. 
It'll be a challenge for them. 

737
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,920
So yeah, I'm kind of like you. 
I'm more worried about Morocco 

738
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,280
than Brazil, but equally feel 
like there's a point to be hard 

739
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,840
at least one of them or you 
know, but please be to God that 

740
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,800
we got a one off one of them. 
That would be even better. 

741
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,280
But yeah, well. 
I mean, that happens with what 

742
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,760
you're saying about being more 
worried that Brock Morocco than 

743
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,320
Brazil. 
I agree with that, but not 

744
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,320
because I don't, you know, I 
don't see a threat and like in 

745
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Morocco or whatever. 
It's more because Morocco are 

746
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,800
the Part 2 side if we are to 
achieve something, they're 

747
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,160
probably the most like, they're 
like the most likely side that 

748
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,760
we should be taking points from 
that's not below us. 

749
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,720
And I mean, it's not going to 
like Brazil. 

750
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,720
It could be Brazil, but 
statistically the chances are 

751
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,560
lower. 
And again, people keep saying 

752
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,280
the Brazil. 
I mean, I've got a French friend

753
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,760
as soon as the jockey might even
or Brazil even, they're not the 

754
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,880
country they want to wear. 
And I was like, yeah, but that 

755
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,000
sentence means. 
Stole Brazil the way. 

756
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,840
That sentence means something 
else that Frenchman than it does

757
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,200
to Scotsman. 
There's not been the country 

758
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,320
they wear or came about and 
Bapi's going to take them to 

759
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,320
town, not been what they want to
wear when Comedy and McGann are 

760
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,880
going to need to have the game 
in their lives. 

761
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,880
And maybe, you know, and you 
know, and it's good. 

762
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,760
Like we said, it's last game. 
Obviously we're coming down into

763
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Miami for that one at the Hard 
Rock Stadium, 65,000 capacity. 

764
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640
So good opportunity for the 
Tartan, our male best seller. 

765
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,840
Similar allocation to what we 
had up in Boston. 

766
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,800
And then you've also got the 
Elemental. 

767
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Pricier, slightly pricier. 
I might just slightly pricier. 

768
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,800
And then unfortunately officer 
Brazil resale, there's been more

769
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
tech is in demand for a game 
where Brazil was involved. 

770
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,560
I do think the thinking behind 
being in Miami was because, and 

771
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,600
someone could pick me up on us 
if I'm wrong, but I think 

772
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,920
there's some stronger Latin 
American influence in Miami. 

773
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,360
And I don't mean Mexican, I mean
Latin like Argentine and yeah. 

774
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,320
So I think I mean it could be a 
good atmosphere not respecting 

775
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,960
and be a really nice one for 
Tartan Army. 

776
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,560
Game kicks off 6:00 PM local 
time. 

777
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,800
So yeah, in the. 
UK. 

778
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,160
Yeah. 
Yeah, we can. 

779
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,080
We can touch on times as well. 
Obviously the the Haiti game, 

780
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,520
2:00 AM UK time. 
Hopefully pubs will get special 

781
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,640
licenses in Scotland to stay 
out, to stay open longer. 

782
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,840
Have to. 
Obviously, yeah, Friday night as

783
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,240
well. 
Like we can't get away. 

784
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Saturday night will be is it 
game Friday? 

785
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,440
I'm gonna go mental. 
So no, the game's on Saturday in

786
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,200
the US, so it'll be a Saturday 
night in the UK. 

787
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,840
So yeah, obviously is a lot 
stricter alcohol laws in in 

788
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Scotland and England. 
England has already said that 

789
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,800
they'll open pubs as long as 
they need to, so hopefully the 

790
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,240
same happens in Scotland. 
But yeah, I'll. 

791
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,840
Just get to train a Newcastle 
and. 

792
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,280
I was going to say they opened 
them as long as he needed to in 

793
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Scotland with this shot. 
They'd just be ruling right for 

794
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,560
the next day. 24 hour pubs. 
But I mean, yeah, come back down

795
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,680
to Miami, Brazil game, like I 
said, I mean, in terms of the 

796
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,160
players, it's not when you've 
looked at Brazil squads in the 

797
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,200
past that really have been some 
fearsome names. 

798
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,920
They're like just stacked with 
quali. 

799
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,400
Vinicus Junior, probably the 
biggest, and Rufina, you know, 

800
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Venekas from Venetius, even from
Real Madrid, Rafina, former 

801
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,360
Leeds player. 
But now Barcelona didn't very 

802
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,080
well. 
It was a band or nominee along 

803
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,400
with Mctomini. 
So sort of quality we're up 

804
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,080
against here. 
Yeah, there's a couple of other 

805
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,160
games names that people may or 
may not be be familiar with, 

806
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,040
depending on how much. 
What European football, Rodrigo,

807
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,040
Real Madrid, you want marking 
yours? 

808
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,320
PSG captain, I think he's Brazil
captain as well. 

809
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,560
Mellitao very strong defender, 
playing is Real Madrid. 

810
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,840
He's broadcasting the Rebecca 
and straight away as well. 

811
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Cast me know, Yeah, Notice he 
played last game over to start 

812
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,720
Manchester United along with 
Kenya. 

813
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:25,000
I don't know if I mentioned it 
already. 

814
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:27,160
And then there's him and I at 
Newcastle. 

815
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,280
Very good midfielder. 
And then name the quiet I was. 

816
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,840
It's the vowel. 
Yeah, Chelsea. 

817
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,240
Yeah, Chelsea, 18 years old, 
looking really good and you 

818
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:39,320
know. 
Brazilian Ben Doak. 

819
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Well then, well then, let's 
grab. 

820
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,320
That you say that, not me. 
No, but he's he said that you 

821
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,560
know, he won't take a player 
where he cannot start any of the

822
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,640
three games, which is which was 
directly aimed at Neymar, 

823
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,960
obviously. 
So Neymar maybe not at the World

824
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,760
Cup, That's probably. 
It's slightly beneficial to 

825
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Scotland, doesn't really make a 
difference obviously with their 

826
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,600
wingers being so strong and him 
probably not starting. 

827
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,720
He he's been injured a lot for 
Santos played through engine to 

828
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,640
try and help him play with 
injury. 

829
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,480
Yeah. 
Avoid relegation. 

830
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
He got hat trick in the decisive
game if they were going to get 

831
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,440
really good or not, but 
obviously that could do long 

832
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,240
term damage. 
So yeah, might not see Neymar at

833
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,240
the World Cup. 
Obviously do take a lot of 

834
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:27,120
players from the Brazilian 
leagues, obviously Flamengo, 

835
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Corinthians, Mayer asks where 
where Hendrick came from. 

836
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,840
He's been a bit of a 
disappointment of late. 

837
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,600
But yeah, they've got an 
extremely strong squadron paper.

838
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,440
But like I said previously, 
they've not really clipped as a 

839
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,520
team so long. 
May that continue. 

840
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,040
I'm just looking at that. 
You remember I said that Brazil,

841
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Senegal game earlier on just I 
know that was in Wembley. 

842
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,880
I think there was a few big 
cutters in that game. 

843
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,520
So they're starting 11 for that 
game was Ederson, Edemilito, 

844
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,200
Martinios, Gabriel, Alexandro, 
Casamiro, Gamiraish, Estevo, 

845
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,480
Vene, Kunya and Rodrigo. 
So yeah, that's a. 

846
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Fucking great team. 
I mean, that's that's their but 

847
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
again, that's that's their team 
that's finished fifth in the 

848
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,800
qualifiers. 
So again, the other point to 

849
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,000
make on that as well as like 
still shows how strong a 

850
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,120
continent that is that four 
other teams are finished ahead 

851
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,440
of result. 
Now I know the obviously the 

852
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,160
different coach, like you said, 
Kasmir will come back and but 

853
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
it's still like there's still a 
team where it's like, yeah, I 

854
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,920
know every single player and the
team pretty much even even even 

855
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,680
the the sort of state they would
deem that in themselves compared

856
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,200
to teams gone by. 
We still know like all the 

857
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,480
players, we still know that all 
like world class. 

858
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,760
So yeah, it's. 
I'll caveat one thing you're 

859
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,360
saying. 
That you're on the same time. 

860
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,240
All right. 
What's that? 

861
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,240
I'll caveat one thing. 
You're saying the 5th place 

862
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:51,280
possession was actually joined 
with four other teams on 28 

863
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680
points. 
So but at the same time they 

864
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,200
were 10 points Argent off 
Argentina. 

865
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,160
And that's that's probably the 
bigger thing than the fact they 

866
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,120
were theft because they could 
have if it's packed up another 

867
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,080
two points, they've been second,
but it's the gap between them 

868
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,960
and Argentina which is where 
they're so often measured. 

869
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
That's. 
On the road, that's on the road,

870
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,880
like Adam said, where they're so
per, especially in the 

871
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,760
second-half of the campaign 
where they were really 

872
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,920
struggling to get a win on the 
road like like Adam said. 

873
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,440
So yeah, hopefully that can 
continue. 

874
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,480
I think it'll be interesting to 
see what happens in their first 

875
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,160
game against Morocco because 
that'll really set the landscape

876
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,240
for the the group and where we 
can say where we can finish. 

877
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,880
Obviously we're not going to do,
you know, like England have done

878
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,560
in their coverage and the 
Scotland's possible route to the

879
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,840
final. 
But I thought. 

880
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,240
I was well keen for that. 
I was well done for that. 

881
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Everything can do it. 
Why let's, you know, have a 5 

882
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,120
fun where I'm seeing Scotland 
play, I'm seeing Scotland play 

883
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,000
England and all these paths by 
the way people seem to be 

884
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,560
expecting us to do yes. 
So the the projected thing. 

885
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:03,240
So if if we finish second in our
group, then we will. 1st in 

886
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,040
Group F. 
We'll get first in Group F, 

887
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,520
which is the Netherlands grip I 
think. 

888
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:14,080
Which Japan, Tunisia and then 
the four potential piece of 

889
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,200
yeah, which? 
Is Ukraine. 

890
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,040
No Ukraine. 
Yeah, you're right, Ukraine. 

891
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Ukraine, Sweden, Albania and 
Poland. 

892
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,720
OK. 
So yeah, if we finish second, we

893
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,920
get top of that group. 
If we finish first, then we get 

894
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,920
second in that group. 
And then if we finish third, 

895
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,600
then we can get a host of 
countries. 

896
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,000
But the most likely because of 
complicated algorithms that I'm 

897
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,960
not smart enough to work out 
we'd we'd face first in Group A,

898
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,920
which is Mexico, South Africa, 
South Korea and the winner of US

899
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:53,040
playoff D, which is North 
Macedonia, Denmark, Bosnia and 

900
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,360
Ireland. 
I think if I'm right into that, 

901
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,000
I can't quite remember. 
That's off the top of my head, 

902
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,640
which I'm. 
Yeah. 

903
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,360
OK. 
Denmark, N Macedonia, Czechia 

904
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,360
and Ireland. 
There we go. 

905
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,160
That's right. 
Yeah, I'd. 

906
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Fancy as I get. 
I think that's probably better 

907
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,440
than if we finish first or 
second and that would be in 

908
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,920
Mexico that round the 32. 
And then if we were in that 

909
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,480
path, then around A16 fixture 
would likely be the winner of 

910
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,880
England versus Senegal. 
So I'd take that. 

911
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,360
It's mapped. 
All the way to the final fin. 

912
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,440
That's as far as I looked. 
And then when I got, yeah, when 

913
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,640
they were doing the the survey 
poll and they were saying, oh, 

914
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,520
are you planning to attend this 
match? 

915
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,840
And it got to quarterfinal. 
I was like. 

916
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,920
I'm going to put up to around 
the 16. 

917
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,840
I've got faith. 
That's what I did. 

918
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,120
I put round the 16 I mean. 
My joke was when my joke I did 

919
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,600
see on Twitter, but it was when 
I was joking me guys, when we 

920
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,840
drew Brazil went, Oh no, we've 
drawn first World Cup in nearly 

921
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,840
30 years and we've got to play 
Brazil twice. 

922
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,640
The female mates went Brazil, 
what do you play Brazil twice? 

923
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,160
I was like, well, once in a grip
and then we'll meet them again. 

924
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,320
Yeah, that's what they're saying
on the broadcast. 

925
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,800
So. 
Yeah. 

926
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Yeah, it was, that was, it was 
someone. 

927
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,200
It was on some. 
Yeah. 

928
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,840
But yeah, I mean it like, I 
mean, overall the group falls in

929
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,600
a really favorable order for us.
I think a win against Haiti is 

930
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,200
not beyond us for sure. 
Anything can happen against 

931
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,320
Morocco. 
And you don't know what's 

932
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,560
happened in the first game 
between Brazil and Morocco 

933
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,680
either. 
I don't think you could actually

934
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,200
call that. 
So going into the final game 

935
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,840
against Brazil, it could be a 
situation where they really need

936
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,760
something, you know, and 
anything can happen in these 

937
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,160
games and I think ideally. 
They've won and then the rest 

938
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,280
and all the players. 
I mean, order, order, you know, 

939
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,240
I mean order. 
There could be a situation where

940
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:45,480
they're desperate for one. 
And, you know, it's hard. 

941
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,600
It was hard for us as Denmark 
because they knew we need to win

942
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,520
for that reason. 
Yeah, You know, we could quite 

943
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,160
make it hard for Brazil. 
And I think I'd like to hold 

944
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,360
because, yeah, I've always, I've
just always got faith. 

945
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,000
And Scotland point to the best I
can. 

946
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,200
And I think we've all seen us 
play some really good football 

947
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,880
when we've been on top form 
recently. 

948
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,560
I mean, we played Geese and 
Athens. 

949
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,520
Most of the the first half was 
poor, but those points in the 

950
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,080
second-half where we played 
really good football and you 

951
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,680
know, we just couldn't quite 
find that finishing touch the 

952
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,320
seas little moments we keep 
producing. 

953
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,160
That kind of gives me faith to 
think, you know, could we 

954
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,120
achieve something. 
You know, the last two EUR first

955
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,160
one back, we kind of rolled that
off as, you know, experience. 

956
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,840
It would have been nice to do 
well but never went. 

957
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,440
The baby water then went to Euro
24. 

958
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,720
There was disappointment in the 
Germany game. 

959
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,280
We kind of shot ourselves in the
foot against Switzerland with 

960
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,920
the past that let Shakira score 
and then in the game we had. 

961
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,760
Sorry. 
In the game that in the game 

962
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,360
that we had to win hungry then 
capitalized on, you know, either

963
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,360
way, I just said that, you know,
Brazil would maybe have to do 

964
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,800
against us. 
I just, I just feel would would 

965
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,040
you a couple of performances 
from Scotland. 

966
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,600
I've seen a couple of things 
online about, oh, you know, it's

967
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,040
good to be there. 
Well, if it's going to be a blah

968
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,960
blah, let's get stuck in, let's 
go and achieve something. 

969
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,480
I really want to see Scotland 
take something from these games,

970
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,320
get the winning and say and kick
on. 

971
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,840
So yeah, I mean, that's, I mean,
that's my overall, that's what I

972
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,680
want from the team. 
And we've got 2 warm up games 

973
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,360
while friendlies March that you 
said potential Argentina there 

974
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,320
maybe an African country. 
And there'll be two matches just

975
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,120
before the World Cup starts in 
June. 

976
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Hopefully one of them has a hand
and send off. 

977
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,000
I would begin to see yeah, send 
the boys on their way before we 

978
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,040
all catch our flights as well. 
And yeah, it's just, you know, 

979
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,920
it should be. 
It feels real now. 

980
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,120
It really feels real now. 
And forget, like said, fun for 

981
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,440
me guys, mine and your age. 
It's, you know, it's just what I

982
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,920
feel special. 
Yeah. 

983
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,600
It's it's, you know. 
I don't want to, I wish my life 

984
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,280
away but obviously it's it's now
just a countdown until then. 

985
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Yeah, I'm. 
Sure. 

986
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,360
The league season I'm not even 
thinking about. 

987
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Obviously as an Aberdeen fan, 
it's looking on the app. 

988
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,520
I think we can, yeah, maybe 
touch on the the Hearts game 

989
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,520
now. 
Yeah. 

990
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Let's move on to that a little 
bit just quick because we've got

991
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Adam on and I think 
unfortunately we had we talked 

992
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,280
we spoke a little bit at the 
start a bit how heart we don't 

993
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,600
we don't want to say the bubble 
worst because you know, some 

994
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,520
people are saying what bubble? 
You know, it's you know, hard 

995
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,520
just been playing well. 
I. 

996
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,680
Think that was me. 
Yeah, but you know, they had 

997
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,760
their wobble form, depth, but 
they had an opportunity to 

998
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,400
rectify that safety park on 
Sunday, very rainy day. 

999
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,280
It was nonsense. 
First game as Celtic manager 

1000
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,960
said he didn't want to change 
too much. 

1001
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,400
But I think a lot of Celtic fans
personally dead and it didn't 

1002
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,800
work out from from your 
perspective, parts obviously 

1003
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,120
been an absolute shift and they 
came away with three points. 

1004
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,960
Yeah, absolutely delayed with 
the result. 

1005
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,400
And I actually thought the 
moment I thought we had that 

1006
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680
actual chance at Barcade was the
moment they said that Martini 

1007
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,320
was stepping down after that 
midweek game. 

1008
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,080
And to be honest, like I stole 
as another off field decision 

1009
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,760
made by a Celtic board that's 
just like inept to be honest. 

1010
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,400
Like I think Celtic Rangers 
taking turns for who's got the 

1011
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,600
worst board at the moment and 
that's obviously fallen in our 

1012
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,800
favour based on the table, 
right. 

1013
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,200
Yeah, well, obviously tell man 
like they played really well. 

1014
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,880
It's a completely different game
for the one I think Castle, as 

1015
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,040
you'd expect, obviously a bit 
more on the back foot, bit of a 

1016
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,520
different system where to play. 
Obviously missing Bengami as 

1017
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,320
well, which has been part of the
supposed downfall and the games 

1018
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,200
we have not managed to get ones 
recently. 

1019
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,560
But yeah, it's one of the games 
where you talk about a player 

1020
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,080
and another player and another 
one used. 

1021
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,480
Obviously start to realize that 
it's just. 

1022
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,360
Everybody done really well that 
day. 

1023
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,760
I mean, could highlight key ones
that would highlight probably 

1024
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,360
dev one again, like most harsh 
functionalities. 

1025
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,960
Probably our player of the year 
so far this game a lot from our 

1026
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,320
from our standpoint of with the 
ball, which I think even our old

1027
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,160
nemesis Scott Brown talked about
him in such a way as well said 

1028
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,160
he's always loved his tenacity 
and stuff, but just how he 

1029
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
didn't taste games. 
Now it's actually on the ball, 

1030
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,800
happy with the ball. 
It actually doesn't misplace as 

1031
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,880
many passes isn't as reckless as
used to be. 

1032
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,040
Once more fouls. 
So it's just everywhere. 

1033
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:15,760
But yeah, I'll get known. 
Yeah, market, he said that 

1034
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,320
really good. 
But yeah, I think there's. 

1035
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,560
Just a hard to go for marketeer.
Was that the second one? 

1036
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,160
The header? 
Yeah. 

1037
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Yeah. 
That was an absolute blinder 

1038
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,320
ahead of that one. 
And then, you know, he's really 

1039
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,160
reaching for that. 
Even the first one, like Braga 

1040
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,680
school, everyone thought it was 
off site. 

1041
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,800
Celtic practically just stop 
playing and then obviously 

1042
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,280
Braga. 
So did. 

1043
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,480
So did Braga for a minute. 
That was such a strange. 

1044
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,800
Goal Tom say he was on site 
because obviously the guy came 

1045
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,360
back on the patch for the 
byline. 

1046
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,720
Yeah, yes, yeah, really great 
one pushes 3 points ahead. 

1047
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,200
Celtic obviously got keep my 
hands but yet to go back to my 

1048
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,760
point and start like I think it 
a lot of it is down really just 

1049
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,240
that that little bit of a change
for Nancy also want to bat his 

1050
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,080
favorite system very much 
instantly even though they just 

1051
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,800
take a session on the Friday. 
But regardless, like are the 

1052
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,000
following win, lose or draw for 
us in that game still follows a 

1053
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,840
mad decision for Celtic managers
who are the fans love and who's 

1054
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,080
was getting results and cut the 
deficit to nothing. 

1055
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,680
And for this game like that it 
was heavily staked for Celtic 

1056
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,920
doing that if he was in charge. 
It's just he's a mentality 

1057
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,720
animal as well. 
Like he's my management is an 

1058
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:26,520
experience that will get Celtic 
over the line and has been 

1059
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,440
getting online. 
But it's clear and obvious that 

1060
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,360
they've not got the personnel 
that they should have. 

1061
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,840
And now they have a manager that
it comes again with potential 

1062
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,960
like what role does for Rangers 
instead of like, like a 

1063
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,800
guaranteed, like, you know what 
you're getting from 1 character.

1064
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,520
And so, yeah, we'll also see 
what comes from Nancy going 

1065
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,840
forward. 
But obviously, like McInnes 

1066
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,080
pointed out for the starts, just
about every week that comes just

1067
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,880
obviously looking at beat 
whoever's in front of us. 

1068
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,920
And obviously the longer up then
the longer it goes on, the more 

1069
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,240
likelihood that they start 
believing they've got a chance 

1070
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:09,800
to win on it. 
But yeah, I've never, I've never

1071
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,240
believed it. 
We're definitely going to win 

1072
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,160
it. 
We are going to win it. 

1073
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,600
We're in a title race. 
I've never said that either. 

1074
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,280
Bubbles a meth. 
So like what will be will be. 

1075
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,840
Yeah, I think it was like you 
said it was a mad decision with 

1076
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,800
two massive games obviously that
Hearts 1 and then the the League

1077
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,760
Cup final against St. 
Mirren, the first time since 

1078
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,280
1980 five 1986 season where 
Hearts have won at Celtic Park 

1079
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,880
and Ibrox in the same season. 
So that's massive obviously beat

1080
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,680
Celtic twice now and still a 
game to go and then another one 

1081
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,920
in the split. 
Well, for Nancy yet tough. 

1082
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,200
His finest hour, little 
reference that Claudio Braga 

1083
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,600
chant and he had, he had a quote
after the game saying I'm not 

1084
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,200
worried about losing or winning,
I'm worried about having good 

1085
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,240
performances. 
A lot of Celtic fans didn't like

1086
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:06,880
it, a lot of them didn't care. 
Performance either so. 

1087
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,600
No, I know he got neither. 
A lot was made of them. 

1088
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,480
I don't know if you guys have 
seen it, I know you have had 

1089
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:18,240
them, but a lot was made of 
nonsense, putting, pulling out 

1090
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:21,480
the tactics board. 
He got a lot of stick from it 

1091
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,000
across social media. 
Very Russell Martin esque, I 

1092
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,600
mean. 
What are your thoughts on it? 

1093
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,280
I personally have nothing wrong 
with it I think. 

1094
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,360
I don't think anything's wrong. 
I think it looks silly. 

1095
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Yeah, I think it looks. 
Silly when they lose. 

1096
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,440
When they win, he gets his 
plaudits like. 

1097
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,400
Also I will say one thing they 
could packed up on the tailor 

1098
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,600
was the fact that the Celtic 
players were blue on it. 

1099
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,200
I'm sure. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1100
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,480
So. 
I think to be honest, like the 

1101
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,080
tactic wars, like for people 
like me, all the sun social 

1102
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,440
media, it gives us our momentous
and something like this like fed

1103
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,240
to Celtic fans, whoever as 
they'll jump on me the moment, 

1104
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,000
you know, hearts are losing 
points, call me out for whatever

1105
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,680
I've said. 
It just gives me an opportunity 

1106
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,040
to sort of throw one back. 
But yeah, generally speaking, 

1107
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,520
like a manager getting out of 
tactics board, you know, it's 

1108
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,840
like it's like like I don't like
a policeman have in handcuffs. 

1109
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,200
You know what I mean? 
Like it's not something you 

1110
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,720
would. 
I'm going to be like, I can't 

1111
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,240
believe they've got a tactics 
board. 

1112
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,280
But like, I think the funnier 
one was that was it Paul test 

1113
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,800
deal. 
Having a nap like halfway 

1114
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,160
through the game when the camera
cut to him. 

1115
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,120
Is it Paul? 
Is that his name? 

1116
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,400
Paul, I've not even seen it. 
Oh, I did see that. 

1117
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:25,840
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1118
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,720
One of the. 
Is that the Celtic? 

1119
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:30,440
Directory football or something?
Yeah, so they basically cut to 

1120
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,160
the camera like live and he was 
like having some shot eye for 

1121
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,840
about 10 seconds and he's like 
head the recruitment. 

1122
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,760
So obviously again, it was given
people like Amway for for 

1123
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,440
obviously all the all the wrong 
reasons. 

1124
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,360
And that was at 2 nil as well. 
Cursory just had a chance to 

1125
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,920
make a three nil at one point. 
That's where I go. 

1126
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,560
Yeah. 
So like, you know what, they're 

1127
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,160
all helping themselves and 
they're just people keep going 

1128
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,520
up. 
It's giving us like a this whole

1129
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,360
you're not going to have a 
better opportunity. 

1130
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,120
And it may be right to be 
honest. 

1131
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,360
But like for us, it's probably 
came out a wee bit too soon in 

1132
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,240
terms of expectation. 
But the expectation is more 

1133
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,280
coming on the fact how bad deal 
for them are. 

1134
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,560
Not to politically play a stone,
obviously. 

1135
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,120
You know, for that amazing start
and it's we're nearly halfway 

1136
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,120
through now, but like it's still
heavily to do with how poor they

1137
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,760
are. 
And they surely, I think 

1138
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,200
numerous pundits have said that 
they can't have as bad a windows

1139
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,160
as you've started looking cannot
be possible. 

1140
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,000
And it'll just be interesting to
see obviously what we do 

1141
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,120
ourselves and it makes it 
interesting, right. 

1142
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,680
The longer it goes on, the more 
it becomes interesting, the more

1143
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,640
football point comes on the 
power game and domestically, 

1144
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,640
which can only be good for for, 
you know, the financial reasons 

1145
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,320
and and whatnot. 
So yeah, long may continue. 

1146
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,040
Because I mean, as long as 
Hearts can, I don't think by 

1147
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,440
saying Celtic could have an 
extra 5 points on the board if 

1148
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,160
they're playing better. 
And I don't think Hearts would 

1149
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,040
be getting the same heat they're
currently again if they were 

1150
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,160
chasing Celtic. 
And I think as long as Hearts 

1151
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,680
just keep themselves ahead, the 
longer this will go on. 

1152
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,160
But I mean, like you said, is is
a glorious opportunity for you 

1153
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,120
because I don't. 
Think it'll be that much longer 

1154
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,560
if they can't win against 
Kilmarnock though. 

1155
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,000
True, sorry, had to get it. 
Obviously four games before the 

1156
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,720
Celtic game they didn't get a 
win so it's strange I think. 

1157
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Yeah, I mean, you weren't. 
Awful. 

1158
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,640
You weren't awful in those 
games, but I think it was just 

1159
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:25,040
the big moments where 91st 
minute, you can see it against 

1160
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,080
Kilmarack at home. 
Those are the big moments where 

1161
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,400
if you're trying to go for the 
title, I think you need to be 

1162
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,480
winning those games. 
But on the flip side, Celtics 

1163
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,840
lost three league games already 
and then the season gone by 

1164
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,320
they've they've lost 3 the whole
season so. 

1165
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,960
Yeah, I think like if you look 
at the way of like a lot of the 

1166
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,440
reasons people are jumping on us
for everything, any point we 

1167
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,320
drop is this whole that you 
can't do this, you can't do 

1168
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,640
that. 
So I think like it feels very 

1169
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,120
much like as we went off at the 
games, they're telling us we're 

1170
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,560
going to the league. 
There's never nobody's ever had 

1171
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,040
to do that to the enemy. 
So like I think I think it's 

1172
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,640
more that like the reputation of
the teams that we're up against 

1173
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:03,880
and equally our own reputation 
of, you know, I think like the 

1174
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,640
two other teams we've been 
closest has been, strangely 

1175
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,920
enough, 20 years apart. 
So 86 last day of the season, 

1176
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,840
2006 on the runoff and no will 
be 2026 for forever reason. 

1177
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,800
We keep the every 20 years, but 
like so they'll farmer there 

1178
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,080
every year. 
Well, barfy Rangers in there 

1179
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,600
financial problems, but like, 
you know what I mean? 

1180
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Reputationally, people know come
April May, they'll still be 

1181
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,760
there. 
And whereas I think people are 

1182
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,680
jumping fat delay. 
If hearts drop points, they'll 

1183
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,640
fall away like other teams have 
in the past. 

1184
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,760
And it's us trying to sort of 
beat that drum of like Tony 

1185
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,160
Bloom's just and Jamestown just 
and This Is Us like and proven 

1186
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,160
and and it's it's looking like 
we're maybe a flash in the pan. 

1187
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,000
But our actual expectations is 
that we want to be up in the 

1188
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,880
positions nearly every year. 
How how close we are every year.

1189
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,920
Nobody obviously will not we 
can't see in the future. 

1190
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,400
But like that's that's Tony 
Bloomsey. 

1191
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,640
So like it's just because it's 
half it straight away. 

1192
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
People are, you know, wants to 
be there. 

1193
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,560
They're just kidding to jump on 
at the moment. 

1194
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,920
Any points are dropped but they 
aren't as keen to jump on go 

1195
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,720
from if it happens to them 
because they think, well, 

1196
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,520
they're going to be back anyway,
so always. 

1197
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,080
Well, well, maybe you'll have 
about a really bad 1A forum and 

1198
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,440
you'll keep up the relegation 
every six year that you've been 

1199
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,800
currently having 2014 relegated,
2020 relegated and you're due 

1200
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,440
one now in 2026 like you said. 
That'll be a challenge. 

1201
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,560
Yeah. 
I mean, to be fair, like you 

1202
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,320
said though, it is about the 
expectations entirely at Hearts 

1203
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,880
and the fan base. 
And I've spoke to a few jambles 

1204
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,000
and like yourself, they have 
kept the feet on the ground and 

1205
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,600
said, you know, this is not 
about when the tail for Celtic 

1206
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,000
gates, this was Celtic gates. 
That what we want to do is try 

1207
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
and put a healthy number of 
points on the board that will 

1208
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,720
help, you know, whether even if 
Rangers packed up form and you 

1209
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,480
know, we ended up third if we 
are strong, third, if we're 

1210
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,640
getting close to 2nd, 3rd, you 
know, that's progress and that's

1211
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,480
something that can be measured 
and improved on year on year and

1212
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,400
get you that point. 
It just wouldn't be like you 

1213
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,520
said, I don't find a bit of 
pressure and the sort of pokes, 

1214
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,320
you know, coming in the jibes 
coming in from other teams as 

1215
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,840
much if the old farm hadn't both
completely collapsed in the same

1216
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,360
season. 
Like that's just, you know, 

1217
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,200
we're in prey unfamiliar 
territory here. 

1218
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,720
But I mean, we'll see how it 
goes, but we'll be talking about

1219
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,600
a lot and imagine because we're 
about to domestic football for 

1220
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,600
quite a while now, sadly, no 
Scotland talk until whether we 

1221
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,920
play Scott and talk, but nothing
concrete to talk about until 

1222
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,560
March apart from maybe ticket 
prices and other things. 

1223
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,160
But I'm sure we'll bring all 
that to you on the socials and 

1224
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,720
maybe on the pod as well. 
But I think we'll wrap up there,

1225
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,760
boys. 
Thanks very much for both Coming

1226
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,320
on. 
It's been in our great episode. 

1227
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,400
Excitement continues to build 
for Scotland. 

1228
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,800
Like I say, and hopefully over 
the mums we'll be able to bring 

1229
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,520
you other little snippets, get 
guests or even We've already 

1230
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,480
started trying to hunt down 
Moroccan Arizalian accounts. 

1231
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,640
I don't know how we're. 
We're going to get. 

1232
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,200
Even I'm even allowed to speak 
to any Haitian people. 

1233
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,200
Yeah, I don't know. 
I can't. 

1234
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,280
I'll leave that off my visa 
application for my ticket. 

1235
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,840
We mark that one. 
Yeah, we've we've got a Brazil 

1236
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,240
English speaking Brazilian 
podcast lined up. 

1237
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,800
So we'll have all the the 
previews ready for you and maybe

1238
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,720
a wee sneaky documentary that is
in the works. 

1239
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,080
Like that I would say. 
Once again, thank you for coming

1240
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,560
on. 
Fun being good to have you on 

1241
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,560
again Adam. 
Good to hear you mate. 

1242
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Hopefully, hopefully next time 
that the title race is still 

1243
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,080
alive and kicking when we chat. 
Hopefully it's not so. 

1244
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,160
No, but hopefully there'll be 
two. 

1245
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,800
On to the next pod then. 
We'll still be in it in some 

1246
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,640
shape or form, just literally. 
But yeah, we'll see how it goes.

1247
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,240
Perfect, perfect then catch you 
later mate. 

1248
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,360
Thanks for listening guys, take 
care.