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Hello and welcome to the 
inaugural episode of Scots with 

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a Mic. 
Whether you're a new listener or

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from the Scots Abroad Days, 
we're excited to have you here 

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as we go. 
For this new chapter, we're 

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expanding from covering Scots 
abroad to know all things 

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Scottish football. 
From the highs and heart breaks 

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at Hampden to the chaos of the 
lower leagues, If it's happening

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in Scottish football, we'll be 
talking about it. 

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Today I'm your host Finn 
Crocker, and today I'm joined by

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Aaron McIntosh, Joe Mctagger and
James Scott. 

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So let's start with the main 
story of yesterday at Scotch Cup

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final. 
Joe's The Celtic fan. 

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How you feeling? 
I'm feeling better and hi on on 

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the whole congratulations to 
Aberdeen. 

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Celtic kind of have many 
complaints for how how they can 

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finish. 
They did the damage themselves 

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and I'm just very grateful than 
making about for a second. 

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Yes, Aberdeen's first Scottish 
Cup in 35 years, last one in 

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1990. 
That was also when on penalties 

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against Celtic. 
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Alex Smith was the manager then 
McGregor after the game said it 

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was the worst moment of his 
football career. 

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Jack Milne said it was the best 
day of his life of the mix of 

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emotions. 
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Well, from my point of view, I 
think Aberdeen were the better 

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team. 
I have to admit that. 

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I think first half I have to 
see. 

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I've seen their cup finals and 
cup finals aren't. 

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Normally you know one of the. 
Probably the worst games of the 

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season. 
They're normally spectacular. 

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They they drag out, they they do
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And to be nervous and I think 
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good, but they didn't really do 
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Think Celtic, you've seen Celtic
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yesterday. 
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But then the second-half I 
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game. 
Aberdeen, I think they just went

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no, what? 
We've got nothing to lose now, 

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let's just go for it. 
Celtic obviously want to try 

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and. 
Cut out it's. 

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Two of the sloppiest goals 
you've ever seen in your. 

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Life Final. 
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But the more was going on, you 
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Aberdeen were going to do. 
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going to happen. 
Celtics were trying to kill them

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off, didn't happen. 
Then Aberdeen got. 

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The goal and then. 
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shifted. 
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I think the moment I thought 
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Maida missed, I think. 
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Before it build time. 
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But 93rd minute or something 
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That minute you'd. 
Back him when you you'd back 

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him. 
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Obviously player of the year, 
he's got so much ability in his 

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you. 
Know he he. 

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Pulled back himself to score. 
That goal, but. 

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You know, as soon as that 
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might just be Aberdeen's day and
congratulations to them. 

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I think you must have had a good
fan in Glasgow. 

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Yeah, I mean trying to be 
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podcast, but you know, I am an 
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I was there yesterday. 
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will be annoyed that bumps them 
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Europe to qualifying round two, 
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But you know, I think on the day
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the real quality of the game. 
Probably one of the best as a 

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supporter I've ever seen. 
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lost and now I'm I was at the 
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I think it really showed the 
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meet off. 
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match. 
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chance you mentioned, I think it
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was an even better save from my 
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And the penalties on penalties. 
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year's semifinal. 
Kelly Bruce was in goal for the 

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last year. 
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I don't I don't think he dive. 
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direct way once last year. 
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caused it. 
I would be not a semifinal kids.

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He bring down the injured Ryan 
Duncan's penalty. 

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Yeah, Ryan Duncan's to wait 
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And yeah, I'm putting yourself 
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that semi final. 
I mean, that penalty, I don't 

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get any. 
He may even be younger than me. 

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I'm 21 and like that. 
That manager's going to get in 

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your head against Joe Hart is 
such a seething professional. 

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I mean, also just getting little
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sanction. 
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He was 20 last year in semi in 
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Such a young a young player to 
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But Kelly Ross, yeah, didn't 
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of the penalties. 
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meet of steps up, some massive 
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Even before them I had the 
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OK. 
I think it was clear I have got 

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a pay this. 
I think I should have made a 

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lift of the amount of both that 
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Carl McGregor was one of them. 
Michael Stewart said that. 

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Brendan Rodgers said that. 
That penalty sure as well once I

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couldn't agree less. 
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be a good practice penalty more 
and not one Aberdeen the cup 

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final, yeah, absolutely. 
Most penalty by Aberdeen were 

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four of the best I've ever seen.
And Celtic, I mean, karma, David

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1 was really bad. 
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early on, who'd been practiced 
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was one minute. 
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Alison Johnson, the one that 
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First silverware since I think 
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But, you know, it's League Cup. 
It's the first major, major 

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trophy since 1990. 
Like I said, it denied Celtic 

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the ninth ever domestic treble. 
Can move on to 202425. 

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Recap. 
Obviously, Joe, you've written 

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the article that we posted last 
week on our newsletter. 

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But just to sum up, Celtic 
winning the league as usual, St.

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Johnson relegated after 16 
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I think artist, that's the third
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something like that. 
Fourth, yeah, 4th on this run. 

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I think it's for a club their 
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Obviously they did the double 
2021 as well, but this isn't 

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overall if you look at the 
quality that that they put on 

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the pitch of the change 
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But it wasn't enough for them. 
I think the, I think it's been 

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some time for Saint Johnstone. 
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double, it's just been going 
gradually down downhill and you 

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know, that's the, you know, 
that's the peak that's the 

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highest you'll ever get, you 
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you're just. 
Going to go. 

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Downhill and there's there's no 
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they've had, they've done very 
well done for a team that I 

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think do have a limited budget. 
I've stayed. 

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In that league for that long, 
when you consider some of the 

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things in the Championship and 
for so long have been stuck. 

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In there I mean. 
There's been bigger clubs in the

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Championship in. 
League One and. 

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They've stayed there and they've
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And I think obviously maybe it's
not, it's not the end of the 

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world going to the Championship.
It will be a hard league and but

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no, I think they'll count 
themselves OK in that league 

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next year. 
It just depends what happens 

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with Lovingston and Ross County.
But I think they've been the 

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credit to the framership and the
credit to the smaller clubs in 

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the league. 
I think, I think they got quite 

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unlucky with the the coefficient
back in, back in 2021. 

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Obviously I already know after 
they've won it, they've they've 

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guaranteed league phase at least
eight games including the 

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playoffs. 
In 2021, obviously the 

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coefficient was below 12th, so 
there wasn't that guaranteed 

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league phase for the cup winner.
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the, I think it was a conference
league. 

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I think it was the first, I 
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season, yeah. 
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LASK after they had. 
That's right, yeah. 

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Lost to Galatasaray after 
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And I was at that game and they 
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There was a red card that was 
questionable. 

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And I think a guaranteed league 
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I think it was something like 
it's guaranteed 5 million even 

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if you just go into the 
conference, they can finish 

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bottom and 5 million to Club Lex
and Johnston is survival for 

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years upon years. 
That that's a decent plain 

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budget for a while and you know,
see you. 

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Know all the money that. 
Comes with that, you know. 

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You know. 
Not just to players, but review 

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into the club 5. 
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Would be amazing and. 
The fans were probably the least

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surprised that everyone. 
They're probably surprised that 

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it hasn't come soon after they 
had that great season four years

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ago. 
They sold their two best players

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in Jason, Karen, Allen, McCann 
for probably what could have 

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been a bit more money. 
I I would say probably not 

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invested that money well enough 
or they've not got enough for 

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it. 
And since then the the funds 

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have recognized that it's 
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losing to Hearts and also the 
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It was it was coming for a 
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They're probably the price. 
I'm so fortunate to hold on as 

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long as they did. 
They got to make some results, 

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including against Celtic. 
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Johnstone are one of these clubs
and I read that they got the 

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throne of Livingston last 
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But I think St. 
Johnson can actually benefit 

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from going to Championship long 
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It could be one step back to 
eventually go through three 

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steps forward. 
Yeah, I think, I think it was a 

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postponed relegation. 
I mean, if it wasn't for Sudib 

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and Kompioka, I think they could
have gone down a lot earlier as 

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well as some a few other players
like maybe meet off last season.

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I mean, Falkirk did slip up at 
the tail end of the season. 

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They almost had step, but they 
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They're back. 
They're back in the Premiership.

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How excited are you to see Scott
Scott Arfield back in the 

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Premiership? 
He's probably he was probably 

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the the, the player that changed
the whole momentum around really

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when. 
You think about, I think. 

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Faulkner could be on their 
debut. 

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Patrick on his debut. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

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Yeah, Falkirk have been top 
since match the E. 

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And the in the in. 
The championship they've been, 

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they've been consistent all the 
way to 30 games when you think. 

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About it, They've been top. 
And they've just about slipped. 

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Up in the end, but. 
You know, that's the that's the 

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signing or that's the thing 
that's probably sealed the 

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thing. 
We can't, we can't If Scott 

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Artfield doesn't come, I don't 
think Folkert win it because 

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you're such an influential 
player, you should be playing at

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a higher level than Scottish 
Championship. 

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It was, it was an interesting 
gamble and I'm probably more 

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excited to see her, John McGinn,
John Mcguin does than Scott Art 

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Field to be honest. 
And because especially the 

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Celtic fan, I don't know what 
you're on about. 

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Listen, I'm just trying to, I'm 
just trying to. 

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No, I think John McGlynn 
obviously took a bit of a hit 

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after his last managing real 
gig. 

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And then listen, that softball 
could come to park. 

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It was last August, September, 
yeah, September. 

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And they went ahead twice and 
they really brought the game to 

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South. 
Can doesn't really like it. 

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Well, they rotated squad by all 
means, but I mean of the quality

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on that part should be played 
before quick off the back before

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Kirk for outstanding. 
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can argue that that's just it's 
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They get beat anyway. 
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excuse me, if they keep that up 
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Mcguiner is just going to be a 
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I love. 
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that there's not been more talk 
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elsewhere. 
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there looking for ages at 4:00? 
4. 

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to Falkirk because if they 
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couldn't say that you don't see 
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see what you can do. 
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why we can't get excited then a 
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because of how Steve Parker done
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of Naglind as well for Kirk and 
maybe goes on to finger back the

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hearts or if he's to go to 
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Scotland, but don't see why he 
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went was at Livingston and 
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to Hearts quite a big gig. 
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someone as well, both, both jobs
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and he didn't really get a fair 
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overs fan. 
I've seen John over the years, 

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good manager, nice guy. 
You know, he's been he's done 

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the rounds around Scottish 
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He's been a manager for a good 
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It'll be nice to see him getting
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with a team that's, I mean, 
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possession going up. 
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good football. 
Like everyone's quite excited to

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see what they can maybe do. 
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level for him. 
I'm glad that he's finally 

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managed to get back to the 
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in, he's got the, the foundation
is to make one sure what, what 

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he can do. 
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Just to close it off really is I
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Needs a natural #9 and that and.
They've not. 

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They've shared the goals around 
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there's no reason to say why 
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Premiership. 
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Let's see, let's use done views,
an example. 

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If you don't have Simon Murray, 
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Dundee finish? 
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I don't. 
It's hard to see right now what 

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poker can do because obviously. 
The windows not open really. 

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Officially yet, but I want to If
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goals regularly even when 
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then that could be the thing 
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Or maybe even takes them up to. 
Top 6. 

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You mentioned Joe, the 
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I think it was earlier this 
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I can't remember this week or 
last week, but Michael Wimmer 

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resigned from Motherwell. 
He's he's joined third tier 

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sides. 
John Regensburg, sorry if I've 

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been. 
Great pronunciation. 

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Then as a, then as a language. 
And you did that right? 

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Do you want to do the honor of 
Joe? 

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How are you? 
How do you, how are you supposed

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to say that, Dean? 
Jan Ravensburg But you did well 

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then. 
There we go, see like an expert.

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I'll take it. 
So yeah, Motherwell without a 

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manager, Kilmarnock without a 
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Now after obviously joined 
Hearts earlier and the book is 

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Stuart Kettlewell's now among 
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job. 
Obviously ex Motherwell manager,

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but more on the Motherwell side.
Who do you think could take over

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there, if any ideas there? 
That's a hard one. 

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Wasn't because this, you know, 
it's what I'll be looking for 

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though. 
That's the thing. 

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I mean, it's only just happened.
Recently looking for. 

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Somebody to get them. 
Sorry sorry Anne the two the two

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that come to my mind but both 
depend on different things. 

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First the first question that 
I'd be asking if I was up for 

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the job was what is success. 
I call but mother all yeah, I 

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don't know if they're looking to
a lot of thought looking 

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wouldn't be looking to do this, 
but also a lot of people see 

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Scottish ribbons, the top 2 and 
the rest. 

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We're probably getting to the 
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McInnes is going to have Hearts.
I generally I think it's going 

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to be top to the written the 
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yeah, Hearts and Aberdeen maybe 
a bit harsher than the United 

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there. 
So as the Motherwell manager's 

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definition that's going to be 
breaking into top five, getting 

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top six, avoid the relegation, 
try and win a cup, but I'm 

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really unsure. 
But straight away, the first two

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names that I was thinking of and
with Kettlewell almost 

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definitely getting the killer 
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And I can see David Naismith put
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But I've heard that he's not in 
a rush to get back into 

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management unless it's 
absolutely perfect for him. 

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Another one's Tony Dock, I 
imagine, ready to get straight 

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back into management because I 
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second was expected for him. 
Yeah, I mean, we've mentioned 

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the ones that are officially 
looking at the clubs that are 

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officially looking for a new 
manager. 

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But obviously with the takeover 
Illuminate Rangers, they will 

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probably looking for a manager 
in the summer. 

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That they've made contact 
reportedly with Angelotti son 

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that the V day Angelotti, 
Russell Martin, among others, 

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but objected so far Gerrard 
could could be back in the job. 

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What do you guys think? 
I wouldn't appoint him. 

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That's there's. 
There's only so much like old 

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Stalinger and Rogers is 
different because that's proven 

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success. 
You know, yes, Jared won. 

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The title in 2021, but one 
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and let's be honest, since we're
leaving Rangers, you didn't do a

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good job at Aston Villa. 
You could see get them up and he

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played all right, but looking at
Aston Villa now that they won't 

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want to stay up in the they want
to not only just in the penalty,

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they're going for Europe. 
So and then going to Saudi 

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Arabia is probably the thing 
that's probably going to kill 

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him a job, but. 
Yeah, I like the fact I think 

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there were the relegations on in
Saudi Arabia for for most of the

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season. 
I mean, going to Saudi Arabia, 

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it's for the money. 
But in a league like that, you 

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do not want to be battling down 
the bottom of the league. 

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Sorry, those names you mentioned
there, Russell Martin was the 

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one that so caught my ear the 
most just because Swansea did 

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quite well. 
I got his move to Southampton. 

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It's not gone great. 
I think we've got a look at 

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their season sales. 
Pretty shocking. 

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But I think he's, we all know 
like managers trajectories and 

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typically just linear straight 
up. 

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They're going to have bumps in 
the roads where they learn 

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different things. 
And I think, yeah, Sean about 

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equality, obviously through 
Swanson, hopefully he's learned 

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from his time at Southampton as 
well. 

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I I think that'd be quite a good
actually like to get him on 

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board would be quite a good one,
I feel. 

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Yeah, isn't If I'm not, he's the
next. 

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Player, yeah, he's there for, 
there for. 

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About half a season, I think it 
was if I'm writing scene. 

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Yeah, I, I, I read, I'm happy to
be corrected here. 

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I'm reading that it's a note a 
couple about a week ago. 

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Yeah, that's what I heard as 
well. 

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I think he wants. 
I think he wants to get back 

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into the English. 
Football, and it looks like 

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Lester's probably. 
The way that he's going. 

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To go if. 
Reports are. 

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Saying well. 
I think they're going to, I 

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think they're going to go for 
Gerard. 

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But I'm you're right. 
I'm actually, I'm actually open 

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against managers coming back for
a second then obviously. 

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So that's I've gone against that
with with Len and Ann Rogers and

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they've done well. 
But I just think in general 

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you're you're asking for trouble
more than anything. 

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But Gerard, what would be 
interesting was who who back 

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from staff would be Bill, Bill, 
Michael. 

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Bill did such a big part in 
Gerard's success. 

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I'm not going to come out and 
say that achieved the success, 

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but at the top was that he was 
the main man and. 

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If he's not going to be happy, 
come back as a former manager to

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be #2 he cannot come back 
either. 

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He cannot come back after the 
Twitter scandal as well. 

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There's no chance. 
No, I think, I don't think Jared

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would succeed coming back. 
And seriously, I can see this 

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being put in a year after one of
treble. 

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But I, I, I'm not overly 
convinced by Angelotti either. 

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Want it purely because you've 
got, you've got much, much of 

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any experience as an actual 
manager, but like, you've got to

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start somewhere, haven't you? 
Obviously you're kind about 

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everyone has to learn somewhere 
and that's true. 

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The only thing it has been 
Rangers fans being like hungry 

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for success as they are and 
wanting to get back to where 

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they should be as well or not. 
A guy like that feels like he's 

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going to get the time to maybe 
like work his craft and build up

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to becoming, you know, get into 
them where they are. 

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Because I feel like in the past 
when things have gone wrong at 

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the first heart of the new 
managers at Rangers, they don't 

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get the patience they maybe 
should. 

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So, yeah, right. 
At the same time, it'd be quite 

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exciting to see that because, 
you know, it's always is a big 

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name actually, son. 
So it would, it would be good 

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to, it would be exciting anyway.
There have been a lot of work 

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going on behind the scenes 
before the end of the season. 

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I mean, I know the 49ers are 
unofficially, but I don't know 

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when it's expected to actually 
happen. 

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But Rangers season starts so 
much earlier than the rival 

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Celtic. 
I mean, Celtic season starts and

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when the league starts. 
So it's that first weekend in 

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August. 
But Rangers have got 3-4 

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qualifying runs at the moment to
navigate through. 

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Yeah, they've. 
Got to get. 3. 

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Three at least. 
They're probably going to be 

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exceeded for most of them, but 
you can't you can't afford to 

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mess around in them. 
I think progress neither corn 

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shows that, but I think the 
probably I didn't. 

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Well, the media reported that 
they've got their top targets, 

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but I don't think they can 
afford to wait around for too 

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long because it's important to 
get these players and that they 

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won and then get them ready for 
the qualified. 

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You can't meet them as friendly.
So moving away from Rangers now 

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to the to the Scotland squad. 
The squad was posted like this 

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week earlier this week. 
There's returns the squad for 

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Josh Doig, Nathan Patterson and 
the Irving and of course Angus 

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Gunn who missed the last few 
squads. 

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Lennon, Miller and of course 
James Wilson have kept their 

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places in the squad after 
getting their first collapse in 

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the in the previous one. 
And there's a surprise admission

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for Kieran Bowie, who gets his 
first call up to the senior 

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squad. 
Clark said in his his press 

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conference after the after the 
squadronet was announced. 

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He's always been impressed with 
Kieran when he's watching them 

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in under 20 ones and he's been, 
in my opinion, such a pivotal 

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player for the under 20 ones. 
And obviously they're under 21 

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Euro campaign qualifier and just
all their games in general. 

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He's got six goals for Hibs this
season. 

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It's not a ton, but his physical
presence said says is what makes

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this game top notch. 
What do you guys think of the of

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the squadron hole? 
When you're saying six goals 

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firms, not too much. 
We did. 

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He only played eighteen games. 
It was our season like massively

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like a big a big part of it was 
injury. 

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I think it was a hamstring he 
got back in October and that set

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him out for quite a while. 
So for the age years, like he 

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said, his physical presence, 
he's got good attributes that 

450
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,880
hopefully will allow him to sort
of cut it at this level. 

451
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,960
And I think there's a few folk 
that have been watching him for 

452
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200
years and he could be one of the
guys who's going to lead the 

453
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,200
Scotland line coming up. 
So, and this is I mean, we're 

454
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,360
not up against to the the giants
Europe for once and friendly. 

455
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:13,880
So hopefully 2 opportunities to 
get a result and really good 

456
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,200
opportunity as well for the 
young guys to come in because 

457
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,160
they could. 
There's the pressure's off and I

458
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,720
think everyone's just really 
excited to see them, especially 

459
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,760
with like Selena Miller didn't 
get capped even though he was in

460
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800
the squad back in March. 
Like you said, it would just be 

461
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,320
interesting to see whether or 
not he's had his move come that 

462
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,240
point because I think we're all 
kind of just waiting on 

463
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,080
something changing there. 
Yeah, I mean there's been links 

464
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,800
to a host of clubs, most notably
probably Strasbourg, which to be

465
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,920
honest would probably be the 
dream move for development wise.

466
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,440
Yeah, of course a lot of people 
know they've got the youngest 

467
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,240
average age of any squad in 
Europe, an average squad age of 

468
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,760
21 years and 284 days, so they 
are practically playing another 

469
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760
21 side. 
He's also been linked to 

470
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,000
obviously a Borussia Dortmund as
well as Man United recently for 

471
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320
for around 10 million. 
I don't think Man United would 

472
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,760
be a great move, but Bruce who 
Dortmund or Strasbourg would be 

473
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960
a great move from. 
There's no heck in the squad. 

474
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,160
But as we are speaking, he is 
and he is on the bench for 

475
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,080
Brentford. 
Josh Doyle kind of might fill 

476
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,040
that that role recently one Seri
Seri be with Sasso, although 

477
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,280
after his move from Hells for 
OWN, I think it was last summer.

478
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,960
So it'll be good to see another 
Scott in in the top flight, not 

479
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,360
just not just the second 
division. 

480
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,320
Yeah, I think he's become a 
little bit under the radar. 

481
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,000
I think just like just because, 
you know, we try our best to 

482
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,280
cover Sherry IB as much as 
possible, but you. 

483
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840
Know it's not really too many 
places that you know. 

484
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,080
Showcase it. 
But you know, it's good to see 

485
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,280
him. 
But I had a feeling that they 

486
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,320
were going to go back straight 
away. 

487
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,240
Just seen the talent pill that 
sets us all. 

488
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,800
They're going to go straight 
back, you know, either by the. 

489
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800
As a champion of right the 
playoffs and so it's great to 

490
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,880
see him, great to see him back 
along with all the rest. 

491
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,600
Of the guys. 
That was over there at the 

492
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,680
moment. 
Thank good to see him back in 

493
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,480
the Scotland squad as well. 
You know, I just had many call 

494
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,320
UPS before. 
I think he's about four or five,

495
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,240
but it's not been on the pitch 
yet. 

496
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440
And he's good thing. 
He is as well. 

497
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Sorry, just until on template 
talking guys returning. 

498
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,680
He was on for a few years now. 
I think we've all been kind of 

499
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600
waiting for Nathan to just kick 
on about and he's announced hard

500
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,440
injuries sort of hold them back 
a little bit, so I'm hoping next

501
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,160
season's going to be a huge one 
for him, especially David Moyes,

502
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,040
everyone hopefully looking out 
from a wee bit. 

503
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,200
So good to see that right back 
position become a little bit 

504
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,880
more consistent. 
Built. 

505
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360
Yeah. 
I mean, I remember his game 

506
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,320
against Poland. 
I think it was a Poland friendly

507
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,840
and it was just running past the
Poland players like they just 

508
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,800
weren't there up that wing. 
You know, they're they're they 

509
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,320
shared shade Morris esque. 
But keep on the keep on the 

510
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,480
topic of keep on the topic of 
fill backs, Max Johnson 

511
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,960
back-to-back league winner in 
Austria with Sturman Gratz now 

512
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,520
won the league yesterday with a 
with a draw over. 

513
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520
I think it was Wolfsburg, not 
Wolfsburg was. 

514
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,960
Burger, Yeah. 
Wellsburger, yeah, that's one. 

515
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,520
He won the League Cup last 
season as well from from last 

516
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,760
season. 
I think he's become a more 

517
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,720
established star. 
Last season he was obviously in 

518
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,080
the squad, but limited minutes 
first half the season especially

519
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480
and it's just bits and pieces 
off the bench. 

520
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,680
He's an established starter for 
them one goal 5 assists in the 

521
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,800
league. 
He's obviously started in the 

522
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,320
Champions League as well. 
Great experience from and 

523
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,160
because the Champions League is 
really important yeah and 

524
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,400
because I know John gratis where
runs a pure sight than that. 

525
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,400
But they again get exactly 
experience against players. 

526
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,600
And I mean, no offense, the 
Austrian league, I think 

527
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560
officially they're higher than 
us in the coefficient played 

528
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,560
overall a bit better standard, I
believe. 

529
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,280
But it's important to get the 
experience against those of a 

530
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,560
higher quality because he's old 
enough to be to to once and to 

531
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240
be able to put in a high higher 
level. 

532
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,640
And if you can true that you can
at least stand. 

533
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,520
There's no one against you know,
your giant from Italy, France, 

534
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,800
Germany. 
Germany is probably the one that

535
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960
stands out because it's just 
over the border from Austria. 

536
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,400
But there's not there's nothing 
stopping them joining like 

537
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,960
comedy. 
Gilmore impressed. 

538
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,520
And and going in Italy as well 
and. 

539
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,840
But it was Atlanta that was. 
Yeah, he's had, he's had 

540
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,560
interest from Southampton, 
Ipswich, Atlanta, Hamburg and 

541
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Augsburg. 
So it's a host. 

542
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,800
There's a chance of England, 
isn't there? 

543
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Yeah, I, I to be honest, from a 
personal level, I do not want to

544
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,320
see him in the Championship. 
I think staying abroad, Atlanta 

545
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,600
were top of the the Syria for I 
think it was 8 game weeks this 

546
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280
season. 
They've got a host of talents 

547
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000
in. 
Terms of the guys, if they seem 

548
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,880
they've their club is sort of 
known for making good signings 

549
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,200
and think of just the fact 
they're interested in him, is it

550
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,800
pleasing to see? 
Because you must be doing 

551
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720
something right in that respect.
Yeah, I mean, I mean play. 

552
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,360
Play in a way against Dortmund 
in the Champions League, at the 

553
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,480
obviously Signal Dinner Park. 
Great experience from him and it

554
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,640
just adds to his repertoire and 
his reputation, not just in 

555
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,400
Austria and in Scotland but 
across Europe because I think 

556
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680
he's clearly all other clubs 
he's really. 

557
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,240
Up to his, he's really up to his
game in terms of goals and 

558
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,280
assists, so obviously. 
One goals you. 

559
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,560
Know people will say that's. 
Not enough, but you know. 

560
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,680
For a fullback, no, that's not 
too. 

561
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Bad and you get 5. 
Assists as well, and let's be 

562
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,080
honest, he's been a starter 
since. 

563
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Probably after the new year. 
Since the comic book, the boy's 

564
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,760
name. 
Now, who was the first trace, 

565
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,000
right? 
Back he went to Cologne. 

566
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,160
He's become the first choice, 
right? 

567
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,240
Back and he's been every every 
game. 

568
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,600
Ever since he's played that 
believe every minute that's what

569
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800
I'm writing scene I'm after 
double check that, but he's 

570
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360
generally started. 
Every game and. 

571
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Five goal 5, assists 1. 
Goal. 

572
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Plus, you know, 5 Champions 
League appearances as well 

573
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,080
before New Year's. 
Well, yeah, he's a great young 

574
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,000
player and that, you know, he's 
another one who probably should.

575
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,480
You're having more caps as well 
a young age I'm. 

576
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320
A pre believers like. 
Get me the young guys Caps 

577
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,080
remember what wheels were like. 
Goodness, how many years ago now

578
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,840
the Caps players 16/17/18 Let 
them learn in the big stages. 

579
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,160
Let them learn their. 
Mistakes and then. 

580
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400
You know 20-30 can't stand lane.
They become established players 

581
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,880
at young age. 
Especially in friendlies. 

582
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,040
Yeah, exactly. 
Especially when you're playing 

583
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,680
Iceland at home and 
Liechtenstein away. 

584
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,120
I mean, you're not going to get 
you're not going to get a better

585
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160
chance. 
So obviously Iceland at home and

586
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,480
then on the 6th of June and then
salute goes out to anyone making

587
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,640
the trip to Liechtenstein away 
on the 9th of June. 

588
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Do you? 
That is impressive. 

589
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,840
My heart goes off to them. 
I was. 

590
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Looking at flights, hardest 
places to get to, I think it was

591
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,120
you and then actually the 
trainer. 

592
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,080
I don't know any hotels or many 
at all. 

593
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,640
And is it Vador values? 
Yeah, it's a really quirky 

594
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,000
football system in Liechtenstein
because the bits playing the 

595
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,040
smart second division, spending 
the capital Liechtenstein and 

596
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400
get Europe because they're 
playing the Liechtenstein Cup. 

597
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Well, they almost bottled it 
actually because they were 

598
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,360
playing against a fifth tier 
side in Liechtenstein and the 

599
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,040
5th tier side would tunnel up 
until the 65th minute and then 

600
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,440
collapsed 3 to or 4 to, I can't 
remember which invados 

601
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
disappeared up again. 
But then after those two 

602
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,200
friendlies, we have a break and 
then our World Cup qualifier 

603
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680
campaign starts in the 5th of 
September with obviously 

604
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,800
probably our hardest game 
against Denmark away. 

605
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,400
I can't wait. 
I've got my planes out in 

606
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,480
Copenhagen Rd. 
Thank. 

607
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,120
It's going to be a really good 
test. 

608
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,320
I will be saving my money for 
for the Aberdeen European away 

609
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,640
this to be honest. 
Yeah, just looking ahead for for

610
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,840
the for. 
The Iceland game at home, I 

611
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,040
don't know if it's going to be 
under the radar. 

612
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
That could be kind. 
I think I've got raised 50 of 

613
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,880
cap for Scotland, which is I 
didn't realize he'd claimed so 

614
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,720
high recently in terms of caps 
because when you think about the

615
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,600
injuries he's had, I was looking
on transfer market later on 812 

616
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,800
days were for football or like 
actual he's not he's mass 

617
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560
strangeries. 
And the fact that that's him 

618
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,560
potentially getting his 50th cap
just quite I mean, I've seen a 

619
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,160
few guys now creeping up to the 
higher numbers that have had a 

620
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,880
more consistent scored over the 
years. 

621
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,080
But I'll be, I think I'll be out
to quite a special moment to see

622
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,840
a guy who's given a lot but 
maybe not got a lot back from 

623
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440
his career. 
And yeah, Speaking of Kieran 

624
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Tierney, as we're speaking, he's
back on the pitch fast and they 

625
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,000
scored 43rd minute. 
Southampton have just equalized,

626
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,840
but it's good to see him back on
the score sheet, back playing 

627
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,520
after such a torrid time with 
injuries, not being in the squad

628
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,200
at all. 
And I'm kind of being overlooked

629
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,720
by Michael Arthetta for for 
multiple seasons now despite it 

630
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,320
being so integral for us when he
does play. 

631
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,640
He's not a good time at club 
level since probably two seasons

632
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,280
ago I'd say. 
Yeah, it's great. 

633
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,160
It's great to see him back. 
It's great to see him back. 

634
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160
I think you'll be a big you 
still. 

635
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,480
I still want him to do well in 
Scotland and you still would be 

636
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,280
well, Scotland. 
I think going to Celtics, 

637
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,840
probably the. 
Perfect move from going into the

638
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,640
long haul. 
For him and Celtic, and for 

639
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Scotland as well. 
And it's good to see him back. 

640
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,360
And you're right. 
And seeing that 50th cap against

641
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,960
Iceland, if he should play. 
So that's a rule of honor and 

642
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200
yeah, what we're seeing. 
About how many goods and. 

643
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Players that we've got now in 
the high numbers, John Mcgann's 

644
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,800
got 75, Scott McDonald's got 60.
Yeah, 60 at the age of 2028 

645
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,480
years old. 
Yep, Andy Robinson's got 82. 

646
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,840
You know. 
We've got lots coming up, you 

647
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,600
know, just, I'm just looking at 
the list. 

648
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,199
Now it's just a meeting. 
See how many? 

649
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,159
Players, because you know, 
before Clark took over, I think 

650
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:25,000
we had barely how many players 
got into maybe 20 or 30 now. 

651
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,480
We've got a good grip with more 
coming through as. 

652
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,800
Well, yeah, I mean, I mean 
Mcdormand as well. 

653
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Obviously once Seri, I Seri 
sorry with with Napoli alongside

654
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,800
Billy Gilmore on Friday. 
I was watching the game. 

655
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:45,320
Amazing scissor kick. 
I mean, just to cop up to top 

656
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,520
off the season. 
It's an amazing goal. 

657
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,679
If you've not seen her go, go 
take a look because it is quite 

658
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,040
some goal. 
A2. 

659
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,320
No win over Kagliari, Steal the 
title. 

660
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,360
I was. 
Going to talk about football, 

661
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,200
scrap meters. 
Friday night was just one of 

662
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,200
those nights where everyone went
according to plan. 

663
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,040
Like it's, I mean, I took my 
eyes off the screen for one 

664
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040
second and as soon as I had the 
net, I looked up and I knew it 

665
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,360
was going to come in and scored 
it. 

666
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,400
But he just he has just been so 
pivotal from the whole season. 

667
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,600
12 goals, eight of the 12, the 
score was tied now, now, So 

668
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,640
that's how much of A game 
changer he's been for an Apple 

669
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,160
in terms of driving them forward
and getting the goals that are. 

670
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,280
I mean, there's such a it's, 
it's well known now how well 

671
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,400
Scots are done in Italy. 
But it's been an amazing season.

672
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,320
Now it's Lewis Ferguson, 
obviously at Bologna captain 

673
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,960
this side to cop Italia win over
a single and one nil down and 

674
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,040
doy with the only goal of the 
game And it's I think it's I'm 

675
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,960
right and said it's their first 
major trophy in 51 years. 51 

676
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
years, yeah, that's right. 
Yeah, that's an amazing sustest 

677
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,720
when you consider. 
How many good players have? 

678
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,400
Been in Bologna the last few 
years at least about. 

679
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Four or five years at. 
Least. 

680
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,520
And now they're starting to. 
Get a good squad together to 

681
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480
compete at the top level. 
Yeah, conference getting to. 

682
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Europe as well. 
And Fred for him to captain 

683
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,040
aside, you know, not coming in 
too long ago, not not starting 

684
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,320
straight away, but finding his 
feet quite quite quickly, to be 

685
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,200
honest, learning the language. 
And no, captain, that's. 

686
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,520
Why I was going? 
To say learning. 

687
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,960
The language, I mean, you've got
to learn the language or, you 

688
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,240
know, in places like that, same,
you know, if somebody was to go.

689
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,360
To Germany, you've got to learn 
the. 

690
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Language and because it'll. 
Make a connection. 

691
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,480
To the fans, and that's the one 
thing I'm really fend off more 

692
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,920
than anything. 
It sounds silly to see. 

693
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,720
But. 
You know you've got to try and 

694
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,320
connect with these. 
These. 

695
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Wonderful supporters that you've
got. 

696
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,280
Over there. 
Scott Scott McDonald in 

697
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,360
particular, he's almost cooked 
the owner of the ton. 

698
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,840
And I'm like that well, I can 
barely understand English. 

699
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Yeah, and English, it's proper, 
a proper Italian. 

700
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,240
It's not Scottish Italian, so I 
know. 

701
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Yeah. 
And Lewis Ferguson last season 

702
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,520
won the the. 
I don't know how to pronounce 

703
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,920
this either. 
The Bill garelli #8 Awards. 

704
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,360
It's an award given from past, 
past players, usually they're 

705
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,880
Italian obviously and it's for 
the best midfielder the season 

706
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,480
not just in Syria but across 
Europe. 

707
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,400
And last season that was Lewis 
Ferguson that past winners like 

708
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Pierre Lowe, Chavey Any Esta, 
Paul Pogba, Yaya Turi and now 

709
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Lewis Ferguson and Lewis quite 
possibly Mcdominy this season 

710
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,760
so. 
I wouldn't be surprised. 

711
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,920
I mean, Tommy has won it. 
Yeah, he won the best, best play

712
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,720
of the season in Syria this 
season as well. 

713
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640
I mean, could could he be the 
first player since Ally McClure 

714
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,040
to get nominated for the Balloon
Door? 

715
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,600
That's something I didn't 
consider that actually, but it's

716
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,760
not. 
I mean he when he gets when he's

717
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,400
earning such high awards and 
high plays across there, it's 

718
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,520
almost like why is he not in the
conversation? 

719
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Yes. 
I'm not, I'm not saying you 

720
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,160
should win it, but if you're 
getting player the season in one

721
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,720
of the top top five, arguably 
top three leagues in the world, 

722
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,040
you have to be in the 
conversation to at least get 

723
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,440
nominated because I think it's 
3030, players get nominated. 

724
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,040
I think you have to do something
in Europe. 

725
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Yeah, I think the same. 
I think just I think getting 

726
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,760
into the Champions League next 
season is where he's. 

727
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,360
Going to be just really a lot 
along the rest. 

728
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,520
Of the players. 
I mean, he's going to be in that

729
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,080
candidate. 
The valandor is now done by 

730
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,440
calendar year, I'm sure so. 
Yeah, that's right. 

731
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,600
Yeah. 
You wouldn't really be able to 

732
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,520
get many Champions League game 
in Champions League games in 

733
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,240
until the Valandor was yeah, was
awarded. 

734
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:25,600
So it's a funny one because if 
you do look at his performances,

735
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,160
they are among the best in the 
world. 

736
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,320
I mean, obviously we maybe don't
appreciate them as much because 

737
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,440
he is Scottish and it's just, 
it's like that, I don't know, 

738
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840
you don't really appreciate 
something until it's gone and 

739
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,480
he's incredible over there. 
And Napoli, Billy Gilmore not 

740
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,880
playing a pivotal role, but 
obviously he got his winners 

741
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,240
medal so he'll not be 
complaining. 

742
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640
I think when you're saying that 
as well, you're talking about 

743
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,160
like maybe not appreciate as 
much. 

744
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,960
I think it's almost the same 
conversation when people have 

745
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,760
where about John McGann and 
Arsenal fans go. 

746
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,480
If his name was Megan, Megan 
Dino or Megani Esther, people 

747
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,520
would be Raven much more. 
And we have got yeah, that's so 

748
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,440
true. 
And here's us maybe been 

749
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,920
comfortable with the same thing 
going well. 

750
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Why is he not in that 
conversation? 

751
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,480
Well, I think we'll wrap it up 
there, guys. 

752
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,720
So thank you so much for coming 
on, giving your time. 

753
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Before we go, we want to say a 
big thank you to John Walker for

754
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,080
all his efforts over the years 
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755
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,040
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756
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757
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758
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,440
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766
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,200
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